40ish - Fibre, Friendship Fallouts & Where Are We With Facebook?

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

This week on 40ish, Nicole reports from the glamorous world of post-surgery recovery where the main event of the day is… taking painkillers. Timing them, thinking about them, planning the next one. ...Meanwhile, Lauren has a mysterious foot situation developing. There is very validating listener feedback about the extremely serious issue of designated mugs. We also tackle this week’s dilemma where a woman is left wondering if some friendships can recover after youve been seriously let down. Plus we share some midlife meltdowns, including an existential crisis in the cereal aisle and a listener asking the question many of us are secretly thinking: what exactly is the point of Facebook now? Expect rants, honesty and the comforting reminder that midlife is mostly just trying to take the right painkiller at the right time while drinking out of the correct mug. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah, because they make me feel, this is what I mean. This is why I'm getting bored with myself. And now I'm coming to work and still talking about it. And it's like, this is where you are. Sorry. A little post-operative with a legislation woman. I was comparing the fiber content of two fairly identical looking boxes like it was a life or death decision.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I then had an out-body experience of realizing this is who I am now, a person who puts on reading glasses. Oh, God. Yeah, you have to have the reading. I'm not to look at. Hello, everybody. Welcome to 40. I'm Nicole Goodman.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm Lauren Michigan. This is the podcast where we tackle 40-something life. Don't we? We do. We talk about, what do we talk about on this show? We talk about really boring mundane stuff. Yeah. About being in your 40s.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah. We try and have a lot of fun doing it. We do. We try and make jokes out of it. We try and bring the lighthearted nature to being perimenopausal, menopausal, feeling a little bit old, feeling a bit sorry for ourselves, feeling rageful, feeling tired, feeling all of it, working our way through the world of supplements and what we're supposed to fucking eat, the whole fucking thing. We just talk about it here. And we solve your
Starting point is 00:02:57 dilemmas? Well, we don't solve them. Sometimes we do. We talk about them. We're helpful. Are we helpful? Well, the intent. The intent's good. Yeah. Yeah, our heart's in the right place. We come with pure hearts. We do. We do. That is so true. So, please, please. Please don't forget you can subscribe to this show on Apple Podcasts for early access, ad free listening across both our shows and bonus content. And also, we haven't said this for a long time. If you enjoyed this show, please rate and review. Leave us a five-star review on Apple.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We had a lovely one on Self-Care Club a few days ago. Oh, hello. Oh, James. Disco. James is putting some music in. We don't know why. He's basically playing somebody else's podcast. This is his way of saying,
Starting point is 00:03:42 you're so funny up hurry up, hurry up, hurry up the next show's coming in but we actually enjoyed that little musical interlude James so thanks for that little dance break dance break if you want to be
Starting point is 00:03:57 I used to do these hairdressing like things and when there was this one where literally every hour or hour and a half they used to play that hey ya you know that hey ya
Starting point is 00:04:09 and you had to get up and dance Why? Why? I don't know. It shook the energy up big because everyone was falling asleep because it was boring, maybe. And then literally every hour. And I can never, ever hear that song ever again.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It makes me cringe. I understand. It's burnt into your psyche in a bad way. What were they called Outcast with a K? Yeah. Outcast. Get me. Well done.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Thanks. What a finely tuned brain you have. I've just had a London utropic coffee, that's why. Have you? Yeah. Can I just say I was so pleased with myself because last week when I went to my school reunion, Yeah. I was remembering all these stories from when we were like seven and eight years old.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And my best friend, who has my memory, essentially knows everything that ever happened to me and often fills in the gaps that I don't remember. After she said, I don't mean to be funny, but your brain is on fire today. She said, you remembered things that I had forgotten. I was like, fucking hell. Wow. That's impressive because she remembers everything. But you've been like this for a couple of weeks now. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:06 What's wrong? My brain's firing on all the cylinders. So lucky. I know it's dreamy. I remember everything. Lucky. Or can we remember to finish off the housekeeping? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:18 If you've got something to share, big, small or mediocre, please let us know. Email us, hello at 40ish.co.com. Dot, or DM us on Instagram. What's your weird thing that's written down here on the script? Oh, my God. What is this? Okay. Started a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Can I just say, right, is the most 40ish thing this segment now has just become a segment for are ailments. Yes. I don't think that's good. But listen to this. But listen to this because it's weird, okay? Right. A few days ago, on the top of my foot, just on the top of my foot, I had this really weird, like burning sensation, like someone had poured a hot boiling water or boiling coffee on top of my foot. I thought, that's so weird. What a randomized thing. I'm sure it will go away. It just not gone away. And it's like intermittent. You cannot see anything. There is no redness, no rash, no swelling, no nothing. Just this really weird, intermittent, hot, hot burning, just on the top of one foot. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. I asked my friend Google.
Starting point is 00:06:26 What does they say? They said, diabetes. I haven't got diabetes. I literally just had all my blood's check. You definitely don't have diabetes. No, I know I don't. And then it said something about, and I don't even want to say this word, because to me it sounds like the most middle-aged word I've ever heard in my life. Ears have pricked up. Ready? Yeah. Neuropathy Now Oh I don't really know what that is
Starting point is 00:06:50 But I think it's like a brain Pain body thing Oh I know a few women They've got this On their feet No no It's not the placenta fasciate It's not bad
Starting point is 00:07:00 Oh Oh how did you know How did you know Because that is a very Perimenopausal Middle Age women thing But that is a pain On the arch
Starting point is 00:07:08 Of your foot Huts you to walk Yes No no no This is on the top Of my foot This is not the same What's neuropathy then
Starting point is 00:07:14 I think it's like a signal from your brain to your body, it's a pain thing. But it's not in my head. I'm not making it up. But is it like a signal that's gone a bit wonky? Maybe. To me, it just screams middle age. So I just want to ignore that because I will not accept myself as a person with that. That's not a thing I will have. You are a middle age woman though. You accept that. Some days, yeah. But I don't want to accept that. That is not, that is not something I want to be associated with. Do you know what I mean? You know what? It doesn't need to become your whole personality. It's not a brand for me. And I don't want to be that woman who says, oh, suffer from neuropathy. I don't want that. Yeah. So I'm just going
Starting point is 00:07:49 I know. I know. I also don't want to be that woman. I don't want to be that woman that's pay stop. I don't want to be that woman that woman that's still fucking recovering. And I don't want to be that woman where her friends basically have to phone her every day saying, how are you feeling? And then today, one of my best friends, she's like, how are you feeling? I said, I've had a really fucking rough night. And I started going into it. And I was like, you know what? I am so sick to death of myself. I'm sick to death of myself. I get it. You know, I think we should both take my mother's rule, which is basically this, when you tell her your symptoms, well, one of two things is either going to happen. You're either going to die of it or you'll get better. So I'm just going
Starting point is 00:08:23 to go with that. You are so your mother's daughter. I know. You are so your mother's daughter. I am not going to die from a burning sensation on the top of one foot. So therefore it's going to go away. That's that's it. That's where I'm leaving it. And I have the bandwidth or the patients to spend four million weeks waiting for some GP appointment for them to tell me it's some neuropathy bullshit. So let's just leave it alone. What do you do for neuropathy anyway? Fuck no.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You just moan about it to your middle-aged friends. I don't know. We presume I won't drop dead in the next few weeks it's going to go away. Why is it going to be one or the other with you? That's Jackie's rule. Listen, I understand that you are Jackie's daughter. You'll either die or get better.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm not going to die of this. We had this conversation on text the other day. You went to an exercise class. We're not bringing that to the show? Yeah. You went to an exercise class. exercise class, you lifted things, it was great. You were like, it was hard, it was hard.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It wasn't great. You said, you told me it was great that you went. You told me that thousand times it was hard. I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's meant to be hard. And I'm like, you know what? What did I say something that irritated you? Something about exercises. Oh, it's a privilege to be able to move your body.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That would chest out. Yeah, as I'm fucking lying down post-up, post-reperate-me, post-historect me, post all of it. Vini, sorry for myself, can't even walk the dog because I get too fucking tired. And there you are, moaning about going to an exercise class. I'm like, do you know what? Have some perspective. It is a privileged exercise.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It is a privilege that you get to move your body and lift things and pick things up. And you know, one of the time. And then I said to you, you know, there is an option where you could enjoy it. And your reaction was so funny. It was like, I'm not going to enjoy it. I'm going to do it. I recognize that I have to do it. And that's the end of it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 But I'm not going to enjoy it. I'm like, well, you won't with that attitude. No. Also, Mr. Google said it can, this pain can be caused from exercise. How do you know it's him? Him? okay, Mrs. Google, she said, this pain could be caused from exercise.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I told Ollie that and he was like, no. I'm sorry, you can't get some of the burning pain on foot from like lifting some shit in a class once. I'm like, but what if it is God telling me? See, you were never supposed to exercise. God is not telling you that. And you've done it once. Look what's happened.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Has it been since the exercise? Yes. Yes. I'm telling you it's related. You don't have a body built for exercise. I don't. I do have a body that's built for its size. It currently can't. No, it currently can't. It's annoying.
Starting point is 00:10:57 What's your most 40-ish thing? Well, just that my whole day revolves around what time I can take painkillers. I think that's quite a relationship. Like a proper truck addict? No. Like when's your dealer coming? No. What are you taking now?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Urofen. I mean, it's not all paracetamol. We're off the tramidol now. We're way off. We haven't taken the trams off for a long time. That was quite special. pushed the Tramadol on me yesterday. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Because I was in so much pain. Why don't you fucking take it? Because I don't want to take Tramadol. Okay. Because they make me feel... This is what I mean. This is why I'm getting bored of myself. And now I'm coming to work and still talking about it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And it's like... Well, this is where you are. Sorry. You're a post-operative medulation woman. Who naps and takes pain killers. Be grateful you don't have neuropathy. And I hope I don't either. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Could I be... Any more currently, any more middle age. We are where we are. I've got the burning now. It's happening now. In real time. What is it? It's so fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It doesn't even hurt. It's just like hot, hot, hot, hot. Does it feel hot to the touch? Yes. Then it goes. It's so weird. I can't tell you how weird it is. That is such a menopausal thing.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Just random. Totally. It feels like one of those completely, like if you dug deep enough into the internet, you'd find it as a perimenopausal symptom, wouldn't you? Yeah. Random one foot is hot Only on the top of it But it's not painful
Starting point is 00:12:26 You should start a Facebook page I'm sure there's other like-minded women That would want to be part of that community I guarantee one listener is going to be like Fuck me, that's happened to me Yes and tell us Please tell me if you've ever had Top of one foot hot random
Starting point is 00:12:51 Make her feel normal Please Right we've got feedback Go on. I agree with the different mug things, Lauren, she says. I don't know what that means. Okay. Well, because you didn't listen to the shows that me and James did.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I said to James, my most 40-ish thing was I realized that I have a specific type of mug I enjoy in the morning, which has to be quite girthy and thick. And then in that afternoon, I like a tall mug. James was like, how do you feel about a glass mug? I was like, no, they should be illegal. But I realize it's very middle age to have a preference for mugs. I also have a preference for mugs. Do you? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:13:25 is your preference? In the morning, I'm like a white mug. Okay. A white mug. Okay. And also, I can't, I find it very difficult to drink out of a mug that doesn't have a white inside. Yes. I don't know what that's about. I understand that. Like if it was black, yeah, that's, I can't. No, me neither. Who wants to drink out of an inside black mug? No, weird. What about afternoon mug? And then I've got another one, it's blue and it's lower and I don't know why, but that is my afternoon mug. Okay. What is that? I feel so much more normal now. Why is that? I don't know. Is that a peri men of palsy? No, it's a 40. thing. Anyway, this is what the feedback's about. It started with a morning and afternoon one,
Starting point is 00:14:00 but now I have four different mugs for my day. Morning coffee, mid-morning coffee, mushroom coffee, London New Tropics, thanks to you. She said, oh, that's nice. Afternoon tea and bedtime coffee, decath or else I would sleep worse than I already do, but they have to be the right mug. I don't know why I do it, but if my husband happens to make me a drink in the wrong mug, it hurts my brain. My husband always makes the drink in the wrong mug. But he doesn't realize there's a right mug. So let's be kind about that, you know? Luckily, I rarely. I rarely, face that situation. Maybe it's a reminder. Award for making it through that part of the day. Hope Nicole recovers quickly, Lisa. Thank you Lisa. I am not recovering that quickly. Well, you are. You're recovering
Starting point is 00:14:37 as expected. Well, it's not, is it? Yes. It's as I expected. It's just not as you expect or as your doctor expected. Yeah, it's fine. I'll just do a major operation and then in 40 hours you'll be fine. He said he said, he said, four days et I want you to go out for coffee. I could not go out for coffee. You could not go out for coffee. No. No, no, no. Okay, thank you Lisa. I'm glad that we're all in agreement about there are correct mugs for correct moments. Because they're just art and that's just a fact. Did James have a... I don't care. I don't think men care. He doesn't. He doesn't drink to your coffee anyway. No, that's true. He doesn't. Thank God he doesn't. Can you imagine James on coffee? No.
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Starting point is 00:16:24 Have it all with 3-1 Disney Plus. Just before we dive into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer. We are not doctors or healthcare professionals. Well, Lauren's. I am. I am healthcare. Well, she is. It's like you'll either die or get better.
Starting point is 00:16:41 That's my professional opinion. about everything. So if there is an issue, you are seriously struggling with please contact a qualified expert. I mean, even that piece of advice from Jackie gives me so much more context about you. It should give you all the context you need. It does. It does. It really does. Dilemma. Hi, Lauren and Nicole. I had a really wonderful friend at university. Honestly, one of the kindest people I've ever known. That's sweet. We were incredibly close for years. As life went on, we drifted a bit. Last year, my mum died. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. It was a really difficult time. she'd been ill and it was all quite overwhelming. We had a very small funeral and my friend lives more than five hours away so she didn't come which I completely understood.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But during the time my mum was ill and after she died she was barely there at all. A couple of occasional phone calls but not much more. I felt quite alone and if I'm honest, hurt. Since the funeral I've only seen her once. Last week she messaged me out the blue to say she was a bit upset that I had been so quiet. I decided to be honest and told her that I felt really let down when I needed to support the most. she just wasn't there. That's very brave. She apologized and said she was sorry if she'd hurt me.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Now I don't know what to do. Part of me still cares about the friendship and our history, but another part of me feels like something fundamental broke during that time, and I'm not sure it can be repaired. Is it possible to rebuild a friendship after something like this, or is this just one of those moments where you accept it's run its course? Thanks, Lucy. Wow, that is a big question. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:18:08 That is a big question. Look, I think firstly, thank God. I haven't lost a parent, so I don't know how I would be feeling in your situation. I do have too many friends who've lost a parent. I would hope very much that those people felt that I was there enough for them. I think that was a really hard thing to do, to be completely honest with your friend about it, but I also think it was the most sensible and best thing to do, because why would you lie?
Starting point is 00:18:44 And also how can you even begin to repair a friendship if you're not going to be clear about what's going on between you? So I guess that's the first step. And now I suppose... I think the word repair is a very fundamental word to all of this. Yeah. Because it's about the repair. I think so.
Starting point is 00:19:02 If she wants to repair it, because I also don't, I'm going to assume good intent in the other friend. I don't think that she intended. intentionally ignored you or wasn't there enough for you. I don't think there was anything malicious about that. I just think it was at worst, thoughtless, at best, she has her own stuff going on. I think if you've had a friendship for that long, I think it's unlikely that this friend is going to be like, oh, well, you've lost your mum.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I don't really care. I think that's unlikely. I think from what I've seen, and thank goodness I haven't lost a parent either, but from what I've seen of my friends around me, that is something that fundamentally changes. you. And it's something that just shifts you and who you are as a person and, you know, your values, your principles, everything shifts. So perhaps that shifts the people that are around you and the way in which you choose to have support and want support and need support. I would say that why does it have to be either or she can still be in your life, but maybe it's just changed the relationship and maybe you just don't, you don't think of her as one of those
Starting point is 00:20:17 closest people in your life anymore, but you can still get to have good times and create good memories and still have a loving relationship with her. But perhaps it's just different now. I think that's okay. Relationships do change. They do, but she might not want that. She might want it to go back to how it was before. Maybe it can and maybe it can't. But it's really going to be dependent on how you repair it and maybe you need to have more conversations about it and just be very, very clear about what your expectations were and how she hasn't met them. And can I also just flag something though. The one part of that I didn't like is when the friend said, I'm sorry, I've hurt you. Well, that to me is a red flag. It's like you don't need to be sorry that you've hurt
Starting point is 00:21:02 me. Be sorry for your part in it. Like, I'm sorry I didn't show. up for you or I'm sorry I let you down or I'm sorry for me not being the best friend to you that you needed. You don't need to be sorry about how I feel. Like I feel how I feel and I'm responsible for those emotions but please take responsibility for your own behaviour there. I hate that. That's not an apology. That's just passing the buck. So that's a big thing for me. That's why I'm saying I think they need to have more conversations about this. And it won't be particularly easy or pleasant in the beginning. But it all depends on what you. she says how she says it and how you want to react and take it.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. I think there's a lot in that repair. Yes. And it will take time. Yeah. And perhaps it does change the relationship. And sometimes for the better and sometimes not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But it doesn't mean you can't have a relationship. I think as we get older and, you know, our lives get busier and fuller and, you know, people do, their roles do change in your life. Because the relationship you have when you're at university versus now is going to look completely different because you're both completely different. people. Yeah. Like my friendship with my best, best, best friend, right? We grew up together. We've been best friends since we were the age of three years old. She now no longer lives here. She lives in Miami. So obviously our relationship is not the same when we were both single together and we
Starting point is 00:22:24 were hanging out together and we'd be like in each other's pockets the whole time. Our relationship is different. It doesn't mean I have less love for her. We adore each other. We honestly, we, I get so much pleasure from her, but unfortunately it's at a distance. So the relationship just changes. But a lot of, a lot of friendships are to do with proximity. And I think, and when we've done our shows on friendships and we have done a whole mini series on it, and maybe that might be helpful to you, Lucy, I don't know. But yeah, friendship mini series on self-care club. A lot of friendship is is about proximity, which you wouldn't actually think it is. But when you do have a friend who lives 10 minutes away, 15 minutes away, because it's just easier to see them more often, you tend to
Starting point is 00:23:04 see them more often. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's not like your love for her changes because she lives in Miami and it's not like my love for Steph changes because she lives in Australia, but it's much harder to have that day-to-day connection or I'll put around for a coffee or I'll see you on Saturday or come to dinner or it is hard. But when she comes here or I go to Miami, it'll be the same with Steph, I'm sure. Nothing changes. Nothing changes. But if we get a lunch together, it is so special. Yeah. And so we are both so grateful to be with each It is different like if I'm having lunch with you because I can have lunch with you any time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Not that I'm not grateful to have lunch with you. No, but it's different. And also she's saying this friend lives five hours away now. So I think just the fact that their proximity is so far, it is going to change the nature of the French. Because it's a big deal to travel the five hours. It's a weekend. It's a trip. It's a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's not just an everyday. And I think there's something just very easy about the everyday. Because it's not a big deal to see someone for half an hour. Do you know what I mean? It becomes like the fabric of your, the fabric of your day. You could still show up for someone and not actually physically be there. Yeah, you can. You really can.
Starting point is 00:24:20 We seem to have two listener meltdowns here. Okay. I don't seem to have a meltdown this week. Maybe my meltdown was my foot and my fortage thing. Maybe it was all in one go. But this is what I mean about the fortish thing. It's like it's just becoming, they're just, it's just one big long ailment. Medical moans.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah. Maybe we should change the section. like it and I don't want it and I refuse it and I reject it. How's your foot? How's your foot right now? It's actually fine right now. So it just comes for like minutes and then it goes, right, weird. It's so weird. It's so weird. Are you going back to that exercise class by the way? Yes. When? Thursday. Yeah. Good. I'm so, I'm most reluctant. Why? Didn't you feel good when you came out? Yes, you must have done. Oh, come on. You're not the only. You can't be the only person in the world that exercises and doesn't release endorphins. I've told you, I don't believe in endorphins.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I don't think they're real. I think exercise people make that up. They don't. To, like, encourage other people to exercise. They don't. It's actually science. I don't think it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Well, then maybe I'm just not wired like that. Endorphins are endorphins. And also, like, the next, it hurt. Everything hurt in my whole body. You were like, you literally came out of the exercise cards. You were like, everything hurts. I'm like, can't possibly hurt already. It did.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And then the next day, everything hurt more. And then the next day. Yeah. I had to walk down the stairs sideways. Oh, I love that. Because my legs hurt so much. I love that. And I said to Zach, my athlete son,
Starting point is 00:25:44 oh my God, my legs hurt so much. And he was like, yes, that means you have to do it more. And I don't want to do it more. I want to do it less. He's like, but mum, the more you do it. The less it will hurt. I'm like, I don't want it. I can never get that pain at all anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I probably will now because I have an exercise, but I can never have that pain. Well, good for you. I don't mean it like that. It's awful. Oh, it's the best. It means you've worked really hard. work muscles.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It doesn't mean that in my case. It does. What it means is I have a naturally very strong upper body strength and my legs, they're like a newborn deer. What do you have a natural upper body strength? I'm very strong in my upper body. I didn't have any pain in my arms, my shoulders,
Starting point is 00:26:22 my nothing from all that lifting. But my legs, I'm literally like a Bambi who's just been born. Like the legs there, there's no strength. They're just very weak. I'm strong up top and week down. Then that's why you need to exercise.
Starting point is 00:26:33 No, but I don't like it. I like it. That's my meltdown. I don't. Like it. There you go. You don't like exercise. There's your belt. It's not new. Doesn't need to be new. There's not a lot new going on with me that I can fucking assure you. Okay. I'll tell you what's happening with Julie. Yeah. The other day, she says, I had what I can only describe as a midlife crisis in the cereal aisle. I was comparing the fiber content
Starting point is 00:26:55 of two fairly identical looking boxes like it was a life or death decision. I then had an out of body experience of realizing this is who I am now, a person who puts on reading glasses. Oh, God. Yeah, you had to have the reading glasses. to look at and get excited about bran. Yeah. I stood there feeling a bit depressed about when and how exactly did I become this person. Anyway, I bought both serials. Wild times, Julie.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Wild times indeed, Julie. Oh, and the second one is, this is from Bex. Hi, ladies. I think my meltdown is, where are we with Facebook? Yeah, I want to talk about this. Well, Lauren's about to start a Facebook page. For reference, I am 46. it was my main social media go-to.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Usage has been declining for a while, but I've noticed this year hardly any of my friends post anymore. Even the most prolific ones have cut right down. This has resulted in me hardly bothering anymore. What's the point if no one's reading? I've only posted twice since Christmas, and the thought of doing so almost makes me cringe.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I get it. I get it. Me too. Also, what is with all the ads and all the AI and all the groups I'm on now allow a non-posting which is turning them all into marriage, counselling sessions. Basically, I hate it. Thanks, Bex. I am so with you, Bex. I totally, totally agree with this. So I was going through, I was, had a sleep this night last night.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. And I was on Instagram and I just thought I slammed my phone down. Yeah. I mean, I was feeling uncomfortable and sorry for myself. Yeah. And I thought, yeah, I wished you were with me because I had a whole conversation about it. Well, I was awake as well. So I could have been with you. Yeah. I thought, I hate it. Oh my God the same. I hate this. I hate what it's turned to. into. I don't see any of the people that I follow. It's just add after, add, after, add, after add. Fucking wall Pilates. Asian Pilates. Asian wall Pilates. Just Asian. I can't stand it. And it's not real. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything is AI. Where are all my favorite. All I like is. And also, also, the AI, I'm sorry, I'm finished.
Starting point is 00:29:01 This is my rant. Yeah. The AI generated videos. They are just there to make you feel like total shit. And it's all about what I should be eating, what I shouldn't be eating. what fucking supplement I should be taking, what it's going to do. And it's like these perfect visions in front of me whilst I'm post-op. Have I mentioned that? Up in the middle of the night or 2.30 in the morning. I don't need to be fed this shit. Where are my friends on social media?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Where have they gone? Where is everybody? All I'm seeing is AI and adverts. I'm over it. That's what social media is now. I'm done. Can I also say, yeah, what and who fucking cares about cortisol? it's like cortisol is like the new AIDS
Starting point is 00:29:41 it's like every single ad is your cortisol is too high that's why you feel X Y Z Hey do you feel like this? It's because of your cortisol It's like fuck off I'm actually fine stop feeding me shit And then that's what I mean But I don't know I'm not like
Starting point is 00:29:58 Have I got a problem with my cortisol I'm not saying the cortisol The reason you're fat The reason you're depressed The reason you hate life The reason that's not of those things are happening for you And I'm like, is there? You need to do this?
Starting point is 00:30:11 No, I don't. Actually, what I need to do is put my phone down. Yes. And read a book. Yes. That's what I need to do. Yes. I need to get off this fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I cannot sound it. It is making me feel so shit. But also Facebook, I totally agree. It's adverts and it's anonymous women posting about their terrible, terrible, terrible life situations, which I have to say, when you've read enough of it, like, you just feel really depressed. Like, does everybody hate their husband and their marriage and their life and their kids and their everything? I don't. Is life this bad?
Starting point is 00:30:38 I don't. I don't either, but that's all I'm reading. I'm like, why is everyone in such a bad state? Or like, I can't pay my rent. I haven't got any money. I'm not asking for sympathy, but also tell me where if... It's just... It's awful.
Starting point is 00:30:51 It's awful. It's becoming a sinkhole. That's how I'm feeling about all of it. The thing is, I'm not even seeing any of that on Facebook, on Instagram. I mean, TikTok is another whole thing. I don't even touch. I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't touch it because I'm never going to get out alive.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Never. It's just the way it is. Never. Won't go near it. It is all adverts and AI. I'm done with it. I agree. What's the point?
Starting point is 00:31:12 And then, and then the worst part of it is that we, you and me are supposed to jump into that cesspool and somehow find some visibility in and amongst all of this paid sponsored shit. I mean, how are we supposed to ever be seen on these things? Also, we're real. We're not AI'd and we're not telling people what their problem is and we're not selling them something to fix it. It's really tricky. But I also don't want to be a part of it, but then we have to be a part of it. So there's my meltdown. I fucking hate social media.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But yeah, our job is very much dependent on it. And I'm not down with it because social media is not doing what it was intended for, which was to connect people. It doesn't. It just makes me feel like shit. Alienated. Yeah. And it just makes me feel like whatever supplement I'm taking is wrong or I'm not taking enough.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Or I'm basically just failing at life. And I'm not failing at life. And neither are you. I have a really nice life. It used to be really fun. So think about the people that are really lost and really not. It makes you feel depressed when you're not depressed. Even worse.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I agree. I agree. I used to just follow gay male comedians who did like great skits, really funny stuff. Yeah, but you weren't see that now. No, they're not coming up anymore. No, I know. So for me, the whole thing is like this morning. There's one guy that does all like, um, imitations of the housewives.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And he is so fucking funny. But I have to go onto his page to see. I don't want to do that. He is so funny. And he like lights up my life. It's like shit like that. That's what I want. Can I tell you what is good?
Starting point is 00:32:35 I'm just going to end it on a positive. Yeah. I have been for reasons that we'll explain later on, very much down the rabbit hole of substack. And that is not social media. It is not AI generated. It is not adverts. It is just real people writing real stuff about every single subject you could ever want to do it. And you can curate what you see and what you read and stuff you're interested in. And that feels much more real. But then we're going back, but it's going back actually. It's stripping it back to like blogs. Yeah. When social media first started, that's what. substack is, right? You're just paying for blocks. Well, some are free and it's a series of essays or thoughts or photos or poems. But that's where it started. So now we have to take it back. It's reading. Real stuff written by real people. Yeah. So there we go. Okay. Wow. What a rant. That was great. Are you tired now? No. You're energized. You're energized. I'm always energized when I'm with you. That is lovely. That's so sweet. I mean it. You and your hot foot.
Starting point is 00:33:34 only the one hot foot only the right foot I'm going to take you me and our hot foot out are you where we're going to do another show
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