40ish - Mother’s Day, Midlife Algorithms and Cycle Synching With Your Dog

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

This week on 40ish: Nicole returns to work post op, but now she’s officially menopausal and quietly wondering if she’s evolved beyond the podcast. Has she transcended? (short answer, no) Meanwhile... Lauren absolutely has not evolved, as her cycle has somehow synced with her dog’s. Yes. The dog. There are hormones in the air and no one feels entirely stable about it. Plus both women mess about kissing celebrities (don’t worry, it’s ai) We tackle a listener dilemma involving a Mother-in-Law who has requested a private Mother’s Day audience exclusively with “the people I gave birth to.” No spouses. No extras. Just the original cast. Is it sentimental? territorial? A ticketed event? Whilst another woman asks if your algorithm is serving you up grouting videos does this make you dull? Join us for midlife in all of its glory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 I'm now post-menopausal. I'm a menopausal woman. I'm a menopausal woman. Do you want a badge? Fuck yes. I watched it about 11 times. I couldn't stop looking at it. You know what it was? We look so good together. You look really happy together. So I sent you the video of you and Jacob Illaudi Snogging. Zero chemistry.
Starting point is 00:00:33 between us. Zero. It wouldn't even make it in like a soap opera. Hello everybody and welcome to 40-ish. I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Lauren Mishko. This is a podcast where we tackle the chaos of being 40-something, diving into all things mid-life, news, stories, dilemmas
Starting point is 00:00:56 and bringing our own delectations, delights and domestic bliss of our own 40-something. Did that just come into your mind? It did, yeah. Sharp as a whistle today. I know. I think it's the necktie. So I've been away, as you might have guessed, for a week. I had a week, not maternity leave. I had a week sick leave. Definitely wasn't maternity leave. No, it wasn't maternity leave. I had surgery, so I needed a week off. And I have returned, which will obviously get into much more in the show. But I have returned. And Lauren is sporting a necktie. Now, I've known Lauren for a long time. Six years. Yeah. Six and a half years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I have seen her most days in those six and a half years. Never have I seen her wear a necktie. I've seen Barker, your dog, your late dog, wear a necktie, but not you. I feel like I've had one week off and things are shifting. What's going on here? What is actually going on? With the necktie. It's a leopard print necktie.
Starting point is 00:02:01 If you're not watching this on Spotify on YouTube, it's a leopard print necktie. Yeah, like a leopard print bandana. Yeah. I've been, like, what? What? It's not like that. Talk us through.
Starting point is 00:02:14 When you got dressed this morning, talk us through. Talk us through. At what point you thought to yourself, you know what, today, I'm going to put this necktie on and it's just, it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's good, it's a look. It does work. It actually does work. That's the thing. And you know what else is cool? You can wear it this way, but it does. But look, look.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I don't know. Do you try it like this? Because I can do it like that. Do you prefer that? Do you prefer that? That looks like I'm covering up a love bite. I'm not, by the way. Just for a clarification.
Starting point is 00:02:48 It has been my birthday, but I'm not covering up love bites from my mum. Love bite for your birthday. Yeah. What did you get for your birthday? You know how you used to wear scarves to cover up love bites from your mum? So she couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not doing that. Do you prefer it this way around? Is that bad up? I'm not sure. because it's kind of nautical but then it's leopard print so it's not
Starting point is 00:03:11 I'm trying to figure out like how would we describe this look like if you're walking down the runway it has just been like all the fashion weeks I think it's recently been Milan fashion week I mean it's unlikely I'd be walking down any runway apart from maybe one to get on an easy jet play that would be the only runway
Starting point is 00:03:27 I would be walking down with a carry on going to my bear how will we describe this look? I think the thing is are we really going there I'm actually really dissecting this. I just want to know at what point this morning when you put on your knitted jumper,
Starting point is 00:03:44 a pair of jeans and your Adidas trailers, which is a standard look for you. Very standard. Yeah, very average. Classic Lauren Mitch gone. Yeah, very average Monday look. At what point did we think, let's do the necktie?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Because we always change outfits if we're recording more than one show so that it looks different on the video. And I was going with a completely different outfit because yesterday, we went out for lunch for my birthday. We'll get on to that later. And I sported, I just don't even know why.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I just went the full Diane Keaton, the full thing. Very, very huge oversized. Oh, the blazer. I saw the tweed blazer. I bought this new, very oversized shirt from Whistles. It's really nice. Like, you could wear it over a swimsuit, but you could also wear it under a blazer.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was really nice. And it was in the sale, and I thought if it wasn't in a cell, I would never have bought that. Very 90s, which is very back. Yeah. So I bought that. and I wore that with like some kind of wideish trousers
Starting point is 00:04:40 and a tweedy blazer Okay, I love that you're talking through all your outfits since I've been away and it was a whole look, it was a whole look I was still feeling the vibe today So today I thought I'm going to wear the white shirt again But like with a necktie and with the blazer And I just thought I can't be shagged with the blazer
Starting point is 00:04:56 Because I've got to do a dog walk for this Or the white shirt Yeah, so it kind of half happened but half didn't I thought I bring the white shirt Then I didn't So what's going to happen in the next show because we're recording two shows today you're just going to take the necktie off.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Is that what you're going to do? And then that's the difference. I might tie around my head, like a hairband. I might wear it on top of my head like Tyra Banks in the 90s. Well, I just watched an episode of Beverly Hills, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Rachel Zoe is on it. She is the very famous stylist. She does and she was styling one of the housewives with a headscarf. And I was watching her do it. So I reckon I could do that for you now.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Okay, great. We'll do that for the next show. Anyway, the thing is the necktie. You know, I'm. heavily obsessed with Jeremiah Brent. I don't know who that is. He is the new interiors guy on Queer Eye. He is handsome doesn't describe it. Does he wear neckties?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah, he does. I can't describe to you how beautiful he is inside and out. He's like if Jesus was an interior designer, this guy, anyway, he's just divine. And he wears a lot of like denim shirt, necktie combos. In fact, they all do on Queer Eye. It's a look for them. I think I'm just channeling the Queer Eye vibe today. So we've gone from Diane Keaton.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. It's a Diane Keaton, queer eye, combo. That's where I am, style-wise, okay? That is not a combo. I'm back. How are you feeling? I actually feel like I have flown to Mars and come back. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. So I'm part of the human race, and I'm sort of part of it for like five minutes. And then I'm like, oh no, I don't think I'm quite part of the human race. quite yet. Well, you're dressed, you have makeup on. I do. You're sitting upright. Yeah. You're not lying down on a sofa under a blanket. Which is when you last saw me. That was a bad day. Well, I've seen you on a few days. That was a bad, bad day. Yeah. That was a bad day. I told no visitors to come over, but you were the only one I let come over. Because I brought you mini eggs. I didn't know you, you didn't bring minnees. You brought me the Malteseers.
Starting point is 00:07:05 But I didn't know you were. Oh, Malteseeza bunnies. Oh, no, it doesn't matter. Brought your mini eggs another day. You, I didn't know you were bringing those. That's not why I said come over. I know, I know. It took me a week to source those fucking Maltese. Also, you had a story that you really wanted to tell me. I think that's why you came out.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I know I had quite a lot of stories that wasn't to tell you. It's been quite hard because when you're on Tramadol, like, I could tell you 10 stories. You didn't remember any of them. Remember all of them? Do you? Yeah. Oh, that's good. I remember all of them.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I wasn't really sure if you were just, like, lying now and like, she's speaking back on here. I took a Lord Tramadol. Yeah. I haven't taken Tramadol for. Well, I don't know, since last Thursday. And it's now Monday. I mean, I wasn't worried because I knew you'd come out the other side of it. But there were a few days there where it's like, hello.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Hello. No, there were a few days where I was not okay. Yeah. It was a shit week. I won't lie. But you know what? I'm coming out the other side. And I'm recovering well.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And it's all going in the right direct. Look, I've had a big surgery. It's only week one. You're doing very well to even be at work. I'm on day 11. It's very good. Post-op. Very good.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Very impressive. But the thing is, it's not like I have to go to some boring office and crunch numbers. You know what I mean? Like, I come to the studio, I hang out with you, I talk shit, I go home and I'll probably have a sleep. So. Because Adam was like, how can you be in the studio today? I'm like, well, what else am I going to do? Just stare at the four walls. Like I'm up, I'm mobile.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You'll be talking to me anyway, so you might as well record it. Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, my most 40-ish thing is, I think I'm outgrowing 40-ish. I think I've outgrown 40-ish. And then I had this whole thought process this morning in the shower thinking, what if we then relaunch it as 50-ish? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah. Like next year, because I am actually turning 50. And this surgery has now put me into full menopause. It has. You are there. I am no longer in perimenopause. I had a hysterectomy for those wondering. I'm now post-menopausal.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm a menopausal woman. I am a menopausal woman. Do you want a badge? Fuck yes. Fuck yes. We should all get badges. I don't want a badge. But you were asking me.
Starting point is 00:09:22 You know what? I'd have been through it. I deserve a badge. Okay. You know how you... Like when you go to the dentist and you're like a good girl and you get... The brownies. You know when you get like your...
Starting point is 00:09:33 Badges. I wasn't in the brownies. What badges did you get like your painting badges? Yeah, shit like that. That should be a badge. That should be a badge. Had internal organs removed badge? Reproductive organs removed badge.
Starting point is 00:09:50 No, no, just menopausal badge. Anyway, the point is I think I have outgrown 40-ish. So what am I going to do? So maybe James, who's 40, how old is he? 44, yeah. You know what I mean? So I was feeling a little bit insecure about that. So now, because I'm post-menopause.
Starting point is 00:10:07 For your own show. Yeah, that I created. We created. Yeah. I am actually. Interesting. And I think we're going to have to relaunch it. I know you're going to hate this idea, but let it sit with you as 50-ish at some point.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But then I think, you know, there's a lot of 30-year-olds that watch this show. They'd never come to the show if it's called 50-ish. I mean, I don't want to listen to a show called 50-ish. And I am 50 in two years. In fact, I was 48 years old yesterday. I don't want to listen to show. Less than two years, actually. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Ah, it's less than two years. I would like, you know. tell you about my most thoughtish thing that's happened this week and you know it sort of ties in with being menopausal not menopausal I went to the gynecologist in fact I went everywhere while you were prostate on the sofa because I thought I'll just fit in every appointment and thing that I need to get done in one week and then it's done for the year anyway went to the gynaecologist lovely elaine she's been on this show not this show care club yeah and she said yeah look at your numbers and all your bloods and everything else I think that we're
Starting point is 00:11:07 We can probably fairly safely say you are in menopause. You've bypassed the perimenopause. It's done. It's over. Your ovaries are packed in. But I'm sorry, who bypasses the perimenopause? I just don't think it's like you bypassed. I mean, I've not had a period in months.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And she's like, yeah, I'm not sure you're ever going to have one again. I was like, great. This is actually great news. Bit weird, but great news. Is it? Great news. Why? Because then it's just done and I have to deal with it anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So I go home, have the most normal couple of days. Get some new bed linen from John Lewis. It's very nice. It's grey and white striped. It's very on brand for my house. Make the bed up with the brand new bed linen. Wake up the next morning. Look at the bed.
Starting point is 00:11:51 There's a couple of like spots of blood on the bed. I thought, oh my God. What's going on? Go to the loo, realize I have got my period out the blue. But I'm thinking, hang on. I'm not sleeping on top of the duvet. and I have pyjamas on. This is not my blood. Whose blood is it? It is Beba's. Beba's. Beba's and I. Beba is her dog. Beba got her period. The same morning as you.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I have synced with my dog. And also, lucky me in my post-menopausal flown to Mars surgery haze, I got sent a picture of said duvet with blood spots on it. You did. Why? Why? Because I was so shocked. Why? Because I couldn't. Why do you don't need to share that? that shit with me. I had to. No. I don't. I know. And I was like, I know I've got very little going on in my very small world right now. But I still don't need a photo of that. It's fairs now. Anyway, Lauren's then sent me another photo. Yes. Of a nappy that she had bought for B because you have period nappies, right? That period pants for dogs. Yeah. To stop them bleeding on your brand new duvet cover. Yeah. But let's just roll back a few years of when Miley started getting properly
Starting point is 00:13:02 groomed when she was a puppy. Yeah. And she came back from the groomers and they'd put a little flower on her collar. It was in her hair. It was clipped into her hair by her ears. Yeah. Anyway, Lauren came over and she was not happy about the flower that was in my, I think it was a bow, actually. It was a flowery-y-bow ribbon. You were like, you literally took my dog and you're like, no, no, no, no, I'm not having that. You pulled it out of her hair and threw it in the bin. And I'm like, what are you doing? You were like, dogs are not for dressing up. only apart from Beba. Now, now, everybody,
Starting point is 00:13:40 she has bought Beber Nappies frilly, they're proper frilly. If you're watching this on YouTube or you're watching this on Spotify, picture is going up. Where would it be there? In the middle. It will be there.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It's basically like, you are welcome. Imagine a ballet skirt. The hypocrisy. Ballet skirt, two, two. The hypocrisy. But it's so cute. The hypocrisy. So Zach's girlfriend came over last night.
Starting point is 00:14:04 The hypocrisy. Are we tripping over it? No, it's complete hypocrisy. I totally... And I think... I accept 100% of it. And I think like five years later, I'm owed an apology. No.
Starting point is 00:14:18 We've had some feedback. Have we had some feedback whilst I've been out? Yes. Yes. Yes. Here it is. She says, like Lauren, I don't do Christmas before the first of December or Easter until a couple of weeks before. But I was curious to see how many mini eggs were in a pack. Yeah. And I also wanted to taste them.
Starting point is 00:14:38 after you've spoken about them. I can't believe she's never toasted a cabri's minniac. How many people do you think haven't toasted a cabri's minniac? Well, she obviously hasn't. There were 23 in the pack. I told the kids, before we opened the pack, Lauren and Nicole said 23. So let's see, I said 23 because I knew there was 23.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So let's see. She says a lot of my sentences start with Lauren and Nicole said. Oh, that's so sweet. Also, that must really irritate her kids. Yeah, a lot. But whatever she says is going to irritate. I'm not irritated kids. You're supposed to irritate your kids. Yeah, that's true. So yes, there are 23 in a pack. Did you count yours? No. Let me tell you something. They were gone before I think I even had one. Who ate them? Every sweet or anything that came into my house just went. I didn't see any of it. I also had zero appetite for a week.
Starting point is 00:15:28 That is a shame because Adam was like, oh, these for me, I was like, they are not for you. You've not just had your reproductive organs removed. So no. Clearly, I've not come around. with Cabarys mini eggs for you. Have I? Listen, it hasn't been easy on him. It hasn't been easy on him. Bless him. Oh, they don't like it when we're not up to normal functioning. I mean, there wasn't any functioning.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I couldn't even make myself a cup of tea or glass of water. He had to do everything for me. He was very sweet. And then my daughter got the flu. That wasn't great timing. So he was up and down those stairs. Bless him. Great.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He's very fit. Well, yeah. He's like, can I get on. with my job now. I'm like, not really. Not really. Your job is nurse. Should we get on to our dilemma? Go on then. Before we jump into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer. We are not doctors or healthcare professionals. So if there is an issue you are seriously struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. Here we go. Hi ladies. Do you think this is rude? My mother-in-law has planned a Mother's Day afternoon tea party for herself.
Starting point is 00:16:38 She called my husband to invite him today and made it clear the invite is only for him. He is one of three children. She only wants them there despite the fact that two of the three are married with our own kids. She's told him that she's arranged it early so that nobody else makes plans and that we, the partners, have noticed. We already have plans to go out to lunch with our children for Mother's Day for me, which he told her, but I do think the whole thing is a bit weird. Hold on. So none of the other siblings are invited, either. No, only the siblings are invited. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:17:15 She only wants her three children there. She does not want the two of them that are married to bring their partners or the grandchildren. She just wants her three children at this Mother's Day afternoon tea party that she has planned for herself. I mean, that doesn't sound right. What's that about? What's that about? Do you think it's weird? I think it's very divisive.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm just thinking like if my mum turn around to me and said, I only want you there and Adam is not invited, and I'm telling you a month in advance that he has noticed that he can make his own plans, I mean, that would just not go down well. On Mother's Day, she'd be like, you and Lisa are coming over for tea. Also, I've got my own kids. It's like, well, actually, I'd like to see my kids and you on Mother's Day. It's my Mother's Day too.
Starting point is 00:18:08 It's not the son's Mother's Day, but it is the way. wife's mother's day and he's got an obligation to his mother and to his wife. Well, he's told her that, that they've got plans to go out for lunch with their own children. I mean, I guess what he could say is, you know what, mum, we're actually going out for lunch with my wife and the kids, but I'm going to pop in on you in the morning and bring you card and flowers. Or I'll come over after lunch. Yeah, I'll pop over after lunch.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't, I mean, I think it's weird. Like, if it is weird. Is it weird? Yeah, it's really weird. It's weird that she's organized it. Well, if my mother-in-law suddenly turned around to Adam and said, I only want the four boys there and none of the wives are invited, but she would just never do that, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And I would be really offended. I would be really, really upset. That way around is a bit weird. But if they were like, we're all going to pop in on mum at three o'clock for a cup of tea, that's not, that's more normal. No, well, she's demanding. Yeah, it's the demanding. She's demanding that they stay away from their partners and their children on Mother's Day.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Mother's Day is like a family day. So if they've got families which she says they have. Yeah. Just do tea together or invite everyone for tea. I think that's really divisive and not okay. It's Mother's Day. I'm going to make a Mother's Day tea for myself, but you're also mothers, so come with the kids. That would be more normal, no?
Starting point is 00:19:35 I just never, ever, ever, ever. See, Adam's parents doing that and just excluding me from any arrangement because I am part of their family and rightly so. And my parents likewise would never do that to Adam because he's part of the family. It's not, it's not right. So what's she asking? She's not really asking. Do you think this is rude? Yes, I think this is rude.
Starting point is 00:19:59 But actually, let's take it one step further. What would you do about it? I would say to my husband, you need to tell your mum that that is not okay and that is not happening. She says he's told her that we've got plans to go out for lunch with the kids for Mother's Day. So I would just say, listen, we've already got plans to go up for lunch. When we're finished, I'll pop over in the afternoon. But, you know, when we're back. Well, no, that's not what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's hard, isn't it? Because you don't want to come up against your mum on Mother's Day at any point. Be like, Mom, I'm looking forward to seeing you. I would actually say to her, if this is rare, we don't know if this is commonplace in their family. Yeah. If this is rare, and let's say that's the first time it's happened, which it kind of sounds like it is because she seems quite taken aback by it, then maybe it's a good opportunity to say, mum, is everything okay? Because this doesn't feel right. Yeah, because if this was a sort of thing she did as standard, she wouldn't think it was weird.
Starting point is 00:20:55 No. Because it would be like she does this all the time. Yeah. So maybe. But it's still rude. Whether you do it all the time or not, it's still rude. It's a bit strange. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It's not, it's not on. I would be really upset. And yes, I would find it extremely. extremely rude. I would get him to deal with it though. Oh, she shouldn't deal with it. One million percent. Do not touch this with a barge pole.
Starting point is 00:21:16 That's my advice. Yeah. Right, we've got a joint meltdown. Yeah, go on. You explain it. Because I actually still don't even really know what's going on. What do you mean? I still don't even really know how you did that.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I don't really get it. I don't understand it, obviously. So I'm on a WhatsApp group with another couple friends of Oz. Okay, they're very good friends. And they were going through some old folks. of a party that we were all at together. And they found a photo of me and Adam. And they sent it on the group.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So, and then what my friend Paul did was he turned the photo. He put it into some AI platform called GROC, which is some video AI. And he prompts it to make them kiss. Okay? So it was a picture of me and Adam, just standing there with our arms around each other. He puts it into GROC and then it turns into like this AI six second video of us kissing. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And it was very, very realistic. Well, it just looked like a six-second video of you and Adam kissing. Yeah. It was completely normal. Yeah. Well, sort of. Although we don't normally have a proper snog in the middle of a party. No, but it didn't look.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I mean, if Adam and I were sat at your back per mitzbo snogging at the table, it wouldn't be completely normal. I'd be quite impressed. But it looked. But it looked normal. You know what I mean? It's because you're used to seeing me and Adam together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Anyway, so then Adam made a joke. joke and said Nicole actually wishes this was John Hamm okay so then Paul made the video of the picture of me
Starting point is 00:22:56 he put a picture of John Hamm in it and it was then me and John Ham proper snogging but it was so realistic so I sent it to Lauren
Starting point is 00:23:06 I freaked out I completely I watched it about 11 times I couldn't stop looking at it you know what it was We look so good together.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You look really happy together. Oh, we are. Oh, we are. I mean, we had chemistry like no tomorrow, didn't we? There was proper risk going on there. I know. There really was. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I know. Anyway, so I sent it to you and you were like, what? What is it? You were like, you couldn't get my head around it at all. No. Because I didn't see the one of you and Adam until much later in the conversation. You just sent me the video of you and John Hamm snogging. I knew you haven't really snogged him, but also I was like, how is it?
Starting point is 00:23:54 What is it? I couldn't get over it. Anyway, so things then escalated. Oh my. Didn't they? I mean, I was lying in bed. I mean, I was, it like brought me back to life this conversation. I was crying, so I was like, shall I do one of you and Jacob Alordie?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Well, firstly, you sent me one of Adam and Maya Jammer. He loves Maya Jama. I was nearly sick in my own mouth. I was furious. I didn't want to speak to him. I couldn't believe what I was. Even though I knew it was an AI creator, I couldn't cope with it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I was like, no. Also, it didn't really, it was a picture of Adam, but once he turned to the side, it didn't really look like him, did it? His face changed. No. Yeah. Anyway, so then I said to Lauren,
Starting point is 00:24:40 shall I do one of you and Jacob a Lordy? So you were like, you're right, go on then. Obviously I had to then learn how to do. I didn't have grok. didn't know what I was doing. So Paul was giving me, my friend Paul was giving me a whole tutorial on Saturday night over WhatsApp telling me I have to get two photos, put them into layout, put it into grok, do, do, do, do. He sent me like a video thing. I mean, this is how interesting on Saturday night. So I'm like, okay, I've got it, I've got it. So I sent you the video of you
Starting point is 00:25:09 and Jacob Illaudi Snogging. Zero chemistry. Nothing between us. It wouldn't even make it in like a soap opera, a bad, so proper. It was like, no, there's just nothing going on between me and Jacob. So you tried again. So I said to you, I have to tell you, me and John have got a lot, a lot more fire between us. Yeah. It was true. Yeah, I know. You tried three videos of me and Jacob, but it just wasn't happening, was it? There is no chemistry between us. I'm sorry, it doesn't work with me and Jacob. Try, try my other loves of my life. You're like, I'm telling you, Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo. He's a runner. He's a runner. I'm telling you. So you did a Mark Ruffalo one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It was sweet, but it looked like we'd been married 40 years. Like, basically looked like I was kissing my own husband who I'd been married to forever. It was really wholesome. But yet it was Mark Ruffalo. Anyway, I showed up to Adam that. And he's like Mark Ruffalo. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. Lauren likes Mark Ruffalo. I said, well, there was no chemistry between her and Jacob. So we had to try it again. Yeah. And then you got really into it. You were like, take this photo. You know, I start sending me the photos.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Still a better photo. It was a photo of you dressed up at your back. bar mitzvah all in like your evening gown so then I had to find a photo of him dressed in a suit so again didn't work did it no it didn't work it didn't work we were pissing ourselves laughing I'm like there's no chemistry here either I mean it makes like it was it was nice it was like sweet but was not hot no it's like you're not you're right like you're never you're like 30 years like no yeah no anyway then it was like all right good all right god bless and then off she went And I was still in bed and I thought, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:47 She loves a young Harrison Ford. Oh my God, I do. She loves a young Harrison Ford. So I put together two videos of you and Harrison Ford, yet very young Harrison Ford, like Raiders of the Lost Ark Harrison Ford. When he was so handsome. He's still handsome.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So I said to her, I've got a birthday present for you because it was her birthday the next day. And I said, do you want it now? Or do you want it in the morning? No, no. I want it in the morning. And I'm like, well, I'm just telling you, It's very steamy.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So you better be guarding your bloody phone. You don't want one of your sons to pick that shit up. No, I don't. Anyway, the prompt was, make them kiss. And there was one, it was quite sweet, little peck on the lips. Yeah, very sweet. I thought, no, just no. Then I put, make them kiss passionately.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, is that what you put? That's what I put. Right. I mean, there was so much tongue in this video. I could hear it. And so I woke up the next morning. I opened this video of me and Harrison Ford. No, you said to me, you, you said to me, I'm ready now.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm ready for my AI porn. Send it. I was walking the dog around the blog. I thought, right, no one's going to see my phone. I didn't know what you'd done. I was like, because she actually like stripped us naked. Like, what is, what am I going to see? Is it going to be really bad?
Starting point is 00:28:02 It was just so much tongue. So much tongue. So much tongue. And I was like, this is too much. I can't even, I can't look at it. This is like too, this is private. To me and Harrison. Anyway, to cut a very long story short, I think it's very fair to say that me and John
Starting point is 00:28:23 killing it. I'm sorry to tell you this. It's a little embarrassing, but my parents came for birthday brunch. Oh my God, you didn't show your parents. I only showed my mom in private. I was like, Mom, you have to see this video of Nicole and John. She was like, yeah, they look good together. I was like, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:28:40 They do. They do. They do. They've got a lot of chemistry, haven't they? I know. I know. She was like, yeah, I said me and Jacob will already. It's not happening.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's not happening, mum. You know why? Because he's too young for you. He's like, yeah, much too young for me. He's too young for you so there wouldn't be any chemistry. I keep saying to Max, he's like your age. Max, like he's not, mum. He's 30.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He's 30. I'm like, well, that's still too young for me. Yeah, I thought Mark Ruffalo would be more of a runner than him. Me too, but Mark Ruffalo and I, clearly we were married for 80 million years in another life because we look so comfortable together. We could almost be siblings. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 We're so comfortable. Yeah. and polite. Yeah. It's such a respectful, wholesome marriage, yeah, Mark. And then when I sent you
Starting point is 00:29:19 the first video of Harrison Ford and you said, oh, you know I like that, it's wholesome. I'm like, hold on, wait a second. There's another one on its way.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I know what? It is scary because I obviously know that you and John Hammond are not snogging, but you could take anyone. I know. It could be like you
Starting point is 00:29:39 and one of your friends' husbands at a party. and anyone else who saw it would be like, well, I was at that party. She was wearing that. He was wearing that. They were both at the party. Oh my God, they're snogging. Like, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's scary. Well, they had, they. The deep fake stuff is scary. They did that on the morning show. Have you seen this latest season of morning show? And how it got them all into complete trouble. It's totally unethical, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It is very scary what you can only do. We can do anything with AI, absolutely anything. Yeah. I found it quite terrifying because, you are told what to believe. We've had this conversation before. I've watched this whole Facebook video of this woman talking about Walt Pilates.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Oh, Asian Pilates. That's the one. Yeah, that is obviously AI. And then Josh walks, literally walks past my phone. He's like, Mum, you know that woman's AI, don't you? What? That's not a real woman, mum. You do know that, don't you?
Starting point is 00:30:31 They can see it. I agree. How? How do I know? I don't know. Daisy said exactly the same thing to me the other day. It's bad. So there's the meltdowns.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Middle Age women discovering AI. We've got a listener meltdown this week. Are you ready? It's been Jennifer. She's in Hull. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, ladies.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Oh, actually, it's very on brand what we're talking about. Oh, is it? Hi, ladies. My meltdown is that I think my algorithm thinks I'm dull, which in turn must make me very dull. I opened my phone this morning. It served me three videos about air friars, a clip of someone organizing cable drawers and a man reviewing different types of grout.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Grout. At some point, the internet decided I'm a person who wants grout content. I don't. But the worst part is, I didn't immediately scroll away. I watched 12 seconds, maybe 13. I also get a lot of Sunday reset routines. I'm just concerned, this is who I am now, a 49-year-old who enjoys practical storage solutions and DIY. Jennifer, long time listener, Hull.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Oh, I want to see the... Jennifer, can you send the ones about the airfriars? You know you can now get inbuilt air friars. It what? Like in the ovens. Oh, can you? Yeah. So the ovens have an air frying, like...
Starting point is 00:32:02 But isn't it just setting? Isn't it just a mini oven? No. No. It circulates and it's much quicker. Oh. An air fry is much quicker than a normal conventional oven. But that's because you've got to wait for your oven to warm up.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't ever wait for mine to warm up. It's got a, it warms up in like, I don't know, 20 seconds. Wow, okay. No, I didn't know that, but I can see how that's a thing. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Is it?
Starting point is 00:32:29 No, not really. But it'll be all over your algorithm now, so, there you go. It'll be over everybody's algorithm. Everyone who's listening. They're listening to this on loudspeaker. It's over everybody's algorithm. You are welcome. You are welcome.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Oh, we should all send each other the most exciting. air frying videos now that it's over everybody's algorithms. The most exciting air fry recipes, maybe. Whatever. Whatever. We don't need to limit it, do we? No. But what else is exciting that goes on with an air fry
Starting point is 00:33:08 apart from what you're putting inside it? Unless you've got some cleaning hack or something like that. Exactly. There you go. Or maybe there's some new Ninja Megazone out that we don't know about. See, now I've said it, air fry a liner. I'm going to get bombarded with silicone liners for airfirmers. I've got them already, though. Have you?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah, they good. Should I get one? I'm a bit sick, cleaning my air friar out. Do you know what? I've got so many you can have one. Thanks. You're welcome. That's so kind.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'll take that. See? Isn't life looking up now that I'm back? It's much more fun than going to the dentist. And James isn't going to give you a silicone air friar liner. He didn't offer me any household gifts. No. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Right, that's it for today, everybody. Welcome back. Thank you. Nice to be back. I wasn't gone very long, but it seemed a lot happened in that time. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:03 It didn't. Didn't it didn't? Yeah. Well, it did. Sort of. Well, it did. Not for you. For me, it did.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I've gone from perimenopause to the menopause. Yes, you have. That's quite a big shift. It's a big jump. I keep walking around the house saying, I'm in the menopause. I'm in the menopause. And I thought I was in the menopause. No.
Starting point is 00:34:24 How annoying? I thought we just done it together. All of a sudden, but no. We didn't do any of jack shit together. You and too busy with all your visitors. So I don't get to do anything with you. Now you're better. Now we can't even sit on the sofa and watch Not Virgin River.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Well, we can. Can we? We can. It's a bit like giving up on life, but we can give it a go. We'll be back later on in the week. Thanks for listening. I hope that you've enjoyed this episode. and I'm going to welcome myself back to 40-ish.

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