40ish - My Husband Shaved WHAT?! and The Great Midlife Shorts Debate

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Today on 40ish, Lauren and Nicole spill the behind-the-scenes gossip from their live show, where, as you'd expect, absolutely anything can happen once they're let loose in front of an audience. A listener takes a passionate stand in the great midlife shorts debate. Strong legs? Absolutely. Thigh chafing, uncomfortable wedges and feeling like a busted can of biscuits? Not a chance. Then comes a dilemma that has Lauren and Nicole in stitches. After 23 years of marriage, one listener's husband decides to shave off all his pubic hair just days before they head to Spain. Is it simply a practical way to stay cool? A midlife confidence boost? Or enough to send anyone's overthinking into overdrive? The conversation quickly turns to their shared appreciation of hairy cavemen and why absolutely nobody wants their husband looking like an unusually tall newborn. If you love funny podcasts about midlife, relationships, marriage, menopause, fashion and the everyday chaos of life after 40, this episode is for you. If you're loving 40ish, please follow the podcast, leave us a review and share this episode with a friend who'll laugh right along with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Well, I think our most 40-ish moment of the week, of the month, of the year of our lives. Is it we did a live show yesterday? We did. It's only been seven years of podcasting, never in front of actual humans, but they came, they saw, we conquered, question mark?

Well, we don't know. We're not in that position to be able to say whether we did or whether we didn't. We have zero insight. Well, we've had a lot of feedback. A lot of feedback. But we've had feedback from, you know. People we know.

Our friends. One of my friends said, I could see you were having an out-of-body experience. I was having an out-of-body experience. It was an out-of-body experience. Yeah. Because we were just doing the normal show. And by the way, you are going to be able to hear the live show.

We're going to have it edited up and put on here over two episodes. It's going to be great. We were just doing the normal podcast. But obviously, there were human beings in the audience who were. Why are you saying like human beings? Because it's always just you and me. It's just you and me. It's just you and me in a room.

But it was you and me and a lot of listeners. People. Yeah. And they interacted and told us stuff and gave us stories and meltdowns. played with us basically yeah they were great yeah they were great should we start from the beginning then

go on then well firstly I just did not know what to fucking wear no and we went round this roundabout for many weeks and we were kind of supposed to do

the segment on the live show about the outfits but it didn't really we didn't really do that I don't know what we did we did it because that's when I talked about my jumpsuit

yeah but we didn't really do it like I didn't really get into the like the bones of the meltdowns over what to wear for a live show. Because there's no rule for that. No one says when you're nearly 50 and you're hosting your first live podcast show, this is the outfit to wear. There's no like magazine article for that. No.

You know like from how to go from day tonight, office to party. Nearly 50 hosting live podcast. It's like I know what to wear everyone going to Wimbledon for the day. I know what to wear if I'm going to Ascot. I do not know what to wear if I'm hosting a live show. And also this was our second live appearance in the space of four weeks. Yeah, but the first one was easier because we were presenting. It wasn't easier.

It was completely different. It required a completely different outfit. But I found that easy because I knew the look I needed for the day. Well, it was smart. Yeah. And it was more presentable. And serious. Yes.

It was this really serious thing about the menopause test. So we wanted to be professional looking, but not in a power suit or blazer. No, but like we sort of work in an office, but we've got. We don't. But we don't. So this was more. complicated. Anyway, you'll be delighted to hear that the two dresses that I ordered to wear to the live show, they're coming this afternoon. So that's handy, isn't it? What did you order?

Two, like, really cute dresses from Nobody's Child. Oh, that keeps popping up on my Facebook nobody's child. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like strapplers with a little, like, gingham skirts. They were really cute. But anyway, I'm not even opening the pack. A gingham skirt? No, they were like gingham. We're going gingham now. Is this what's happening? It was cute.

It was kind of farm girls chic. Listen, we've done the show. I'm not wearing them, so it doesn't matter. I'm not sure how I feel about gingham. It is either Uber cool or like completely not acceptable. I think I can pull it off. I've got that black and white gingham dress. You quite like that.

Oh, I do like your black and white gingham. But is this red gingham or green gong. I've been really honest with you. No, green gingham is school uniform. I really actually can't remember. One's like a denim chambre kind of blue. The other one might, it might be red. I'm not sure about red gingham.

Anyway, it's irrelevant. Well, it's not because you can. I won't be keeping them. Oh, you won't? They're both going to go back. Are they? Anyway, so I didn't know what to wear. No. I went round the houses, drove myself and you,

and every other person completely mental about it. And if one more person said, just wear a linen trouser. A linen trouser? What, so you can be creased at the second. that you breathe. But also, as I said to my best friend, have you ever seen me in a linen trouser?

I'm sorry to say, do you own a linen trouser? No, I don't own a linen trous. No, you don't. I don't own a trous. She was obsessed that I wore trousers. I'm like, I don't wear trousers. I want to feel like me. You don't even wear trousers?

That's like linen trousers. I know. Does she know you? Exactly. Is she a new friend? And then she is not a new friend. I've known her for 30 plus years. And then she should know what's in your wardrobe.

And then she was like, she was so sweet. She was like, okay, let's go through my wardrobe. what do you want to borrow? I'm like, have I ever borrowed anything from you in like the 30 years of friendship? She's like, no. So why am I going to do it for the live? Like, I know you're trying to help, but you're being completely unhelpful. Yeah.

I said, I want to feel like me. Yeah, not you. But also the added issue was that it was a thousand degrees. Yeah. So we're still in, we're having a summer this year. No one's prepared for it. Especially my wardrobe and my menopausal body. all of that combined together

it's just not prepared for any of this shit I'm really struggling to get dressed not physically I can put my clothes on that's good to hear just to clarify I'm really everywhere I go everywhere you go remember that song people stop and ask us I mean no but carry on who we are

no where we come from so we always tell them you never heard that's no you never heard that You never went to camp. I never went to camp. I strike you as someone who went to camp. I went to Marbea. My bear was my camp.

Okay. Okay. That's where I camped. In San Pedro. I was going to carry on. Anyway, it doesn't matter. What was I saying? Did I just burst into song?

Something about your menopausal body. I just burst. Yes. Something about your menopausal body and how it's not ready for the summer. No, it's not ready for the summer. It's not ready for any. thing. I don't know how to dress myself anymore. This is the bit I wanted to do on the show, but it just never happened.

Right, we'll do it now. I'm going to do it now. Great. I don't know how to dress for menopause. Not that I feel... Why do you have to dress for menopause? It's not like a fucking outing. A requirement. No. I mean, what is that?

Who told you that you had to dress for menopause? Now I want to sing the rock set song. Get dressed for success. Do you know that one? What was it? Was it rock set? She had the very short cropped blonde hair. That's the one.

She did the top gun song. Yeah. Get dressed for menopause. What is that? That's amazing. You don't have to get dressed for menopause. I do. You just get dressed.

No, I know. Right. A hysterectomy has not affected your wardrobe. It has. It has. It has. It has. And you have not had a hysterectomy.

So you are in no position. to judge. I haven't. You're in no position to judge. Or make any fucking comment. Okay. Can I just get this out? Please.

I mean, please. Without the sidekick. Get it out. Getting involved. Okay. Just for five fucking seconds, could I just get this out? Get it out. I've been trying to tell you this.

I've actually been trying to share this with you for weeks. And all you've done is like, talk. over me. Tell me I'm mad. I'm listening. Say more. Okay. Basically, since the menopause, I am struggling with what to wear. Anywhere I go, oh, this is how the song began.

Anywhere we go. Yeah. Everywhere I go, I don't know what to wear. Everything looks wrong. Now I know that you probably look at me and I look exactly the same as I did pre-minopause. Pre-hysterectomy.

Can you define wrong? No. Okay. I can't define it because it's just wrong. The only place that I don't take things off and put them on and take them off and put them on and have a whole stream of clothes on the floor, the only place is the gym. But I can't do everything in gym gear.

You can do 99% of stuff in gym gear. Well, and I do. But like sometimes I just want to. get dressed. But I can't. I went over to friends on Saturday night for dinner. Cash. In the garden. They did a barbecue. It was absolutely gorgeous.

They're lovely friends. Everything's very chill. They don't give a fuck what I wear. I went through about 20 outfits and I kept saying to Adam, I don't know why I'm doing this. I don't know why I can't stop doing this. I don't know why I can't just put something on and just leave it on. What's that about?

I think that, for want of a better phrase, be nice. You've been through the chain. I'm not being funny. I mean that seriously. You and I have had a discussion about both of us after we had our first babies. We had exactly the same experience even though we had never met. And I remember this and I was bear in mind 25 years old. And I went shopping for clothes after I had Max, age 25, still a size 10 that I was before I had him, eight maybe at that point. And I could not buy anything.

Not because nothing fit me because everything fit me exactly the same, but because I did not know who I was anymore now I was Max's mother. I was a whole new being on the inside, even though I was precisely the same person on the outside. I wasn't buying like breastfeeding tops, I was just buying normal clothes. I couldn't. I came home with a necklace.

And I think that's what you're going through. Like you're different on the inside, even though you're exactly the same. I know you are a bit different on the inside because you've got bits missing. But I mean, effectively. bits. More than bits. You're different on the inside.

My whole reproductive system has been removed. Not bit, but you're the same on the outside. But you're not the same on the inside. But it's not the same. So something so seismic has changed. It's a psychological change. Yeah. And I think that the not being able to get dressed,

it's like being chucked into that. Yes, yes. Because that's like, you know, clothes are always, they're an identity piece. Well, you are in a subconscious way wondering how to now define yourself as a menopausal woman, I think. And it's coming out in how you present to the world. And saying that, you know, a menopausal woman, you have such an image in your mind. Yes.

Of an older lady. Yeah. A frumpier lady who's sort of like just, you know, and I don't really connect with that at all. And I don't want to connect with that. So I still feel, you know, But on some level, you probably do have that implanted somewhere. And so that's affecting how you feel when you put things on. And I think that when I say to you, I feel mumsy, the whole mumsy thing. It's all tied into the same thing. So I'm really struggling with what to wear. And we're going on holiday tomorrow.

And it's the most casual place in the whole wide world. And we go there every year. And literally it's flip-flops and shorts. And I'm like really trying. Like, don't start taking all the dresses because you're going to really struggle with them. Just take denim shorts and vest. a mass hit and just let yourself relax and just be comfortable. Yeah.

Anyway, so then when you're doing a live thing, back to the live show, I found it almost impossible to find something that felt where I felt confident and comfortable and like myself. And we both agreed that we didn't want to be smart or dressed up because that wasn't the vibe. We just wanted to feel like ourselves uncomfortable. That was like the main thing. And we also just couldn't wear jeans and a t-shirt because it was.

was going to be so hot, but in the end it wasn't too hot, so we did. It was absolutely boiling, but it was really well air-conditioned. And I said to you, didn't I? I basically wore my good old favourite jeans, my baggy jeans, with a black vest. Yep. A black body. And I said to you, why did it take so much effort to look like I hadn't put any effort into it? What is that?

It took so much to just look like I put on it. on the plainest outfit. That blows my mind. Yeah. Yeah. I made zero effort because I just put on the same outfit as I wore in our...

You didn't make zero effort, but that's the thing, right? Because we went through a whole host of stuff with you. We went through a big yellow dress. We went through a purple feathered top. Like, we went through a lot of options. I was never going to wear that purple feathered top. No.

It was never going to happen. No. The purple feathered top made it onto our stories. It did. But it's gone back to Zara now. I wore the denim jumpsuit that I wear in our promo photos. I mean, you know, it worked. It was fine.

It was very comfortable. It was great. You looked great. Really comfortable. And everyone loved the joke because we had on our backdrop the picture of you and me sat on the couch and you're in. Said. So I made a joke about continuity. That went down well.

Anyway, oh my God, how far have we digressed from the fact that we did a live show? We're talking about the live show. I know. I'd forgotten that we were talking that we'd done the live show. Right. Well, anyway, so we did it. Yeah. basically had to, Lauren, let me just tell you, became a little bit of a diva.

You had, I've never seen any divanus in you. No. But yesterday. I'm diva free. You're not. As it turns out, you're not. Well, as it turns out, I've never done a live show before. I don't know if you know, but I've never like hosted at Wembley for five nights or the O2.

Funnily enough, a very good friend of mine is head of sponsorship for the O2. He's head of sponsorship for AEG, right? He's got a very big job. And he sent me a message to say, oh, it looked great, well done. And I said, oh, next stoppool is the O2. Yeah. And he goes, well, you never know. And I'm like, well.

Okay. Thanks. But the last podcast that I actually went to the O2 to see staying relevant. Yeah, I remember. It was absolutely. It was, he's, and then he said, let's remember the last podcast we went to see there. And I said, you know, ours will be a lot better. Empty, but better.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll fill out the first row. It will be the first event you've ever done where you can't sell any sponsorship. But let's do it. Yeah. Let's go back to the diva.

Okay. Because I love the diva thing. You really were adamant that we were not to see anybody before we went on stage. Yeah. But you do understand why. I do. Yeah.

And I don't. Okay. Because I also wanted to be in the mix. I did not. I was so anxious and also I needed to get into the right frame of mind. And if I'm like chilling with my homies at the bar before the show, I would not be able to then get back into doing the show. I would be too whatever, not in the frame of mind. So I needed just to separate.

I just needed to be not with anyone and then go straight out and do the show and just not see or talk to anyone. I couldn't. I couldn't do both. You are fine with doing both. I could not. So you were like, yeah, we'll just go to the bar We'll like chat to her from beforehand I was like, no fucking way, we're staying in the green room

We are not being seen We will leave the green room and go onto the stage We're not milling around, it's weird I can't So the show started at 4 o'clock And doors opened at half past three So at 20 past three people started turning up Three o'clock people started turning up

Because they wanted a drink Yeah So we had to go into this green room Aka a corridor Let's not, you know But the venue was so fantastic Because they gave us a complimentary glass of Prosecco each, didn't they? A jug of water.

Like, they really looked after us. They were so fantastic. So a big shout out to the gallery at Tile Yard Road. They were lovely. They were so lovely. I would totally do it there again. And we sat in that room for like an hour. So we sat in that room for 40 minutes. An hour, really. It was the longest. It was 40 minutes. It was the longest period of time.

And I was like, what should we do? What should we do now? Was I play rock, paper, scissors? What should we do now? Every five minutes, do I need more eyeliner? What's with the eyeliner? Don't need more lipcloths. Don't need more eyeliner. Don't need more lip glist. I'm just going to carry on putting on makeup.

Because I've got nothing else to you. And then you were watching me doing and you were like, do I need more lip gloss? I was like, is she looking at me thinking I need more? So she's putting on more. We were just edgy and bored is what we were. Anyway. Egy, anxious and bored. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, once we went on, it was totally fine. It was, it was an out of body experience. Yeah. It was a bit like looking at yourself from above doing a show, not really understanding you're doing a show, but you were doing a show. And then it was fine.

The doing was fine. It was just the anticipatory anxiety was mega. The doing it was fine. The audience really played along. They were absolutely brilliant. And we, in the run-up, we didn't know how much the audience were going to engage. So we had sort of back-ups in case they didn't. But honestly, from the off, they were up for it, weren't they?

They really wanted a play, which was so great. So nice. Because it really helped shape the show. It was so nice. Thank you so much to everybody that came and supported the show. And I hope you really enjoyed it. And I hope we did it justice. I really hope it was fun for you if you came.

It was really fun. And then in the interval, there was a whole thing about where we're going to go to the Lou. Yeah. And so the guy that was running the night, the afternoon, he was like, just go straight out through the front door. I mean, Lauren basically... I literally came to the stage and went straight. out the front door. Like, do you talk to anybody? No. Like, you're literally

Lady Gaga. Yeah. I mean, did you? No, I came, I walked straight directly. It's like, this is your alter. You like Sasha Fierce the whole thing. Yeah, I did. I literally, I didn't even look at anyone. I didn't even look at my own sister-in-law. I didn't look at any soul that I knew. I just came

off the stage, eyes ahead, walked straight down and out the front door. My sister. And I thought you'd be behind me, but you were not. No, because my sister and my two best friends were in the front Front row. Yeah. So when I came down off the third woman,

I'm going to ignore my sister and my two best friends. Well, I ignore your sister and your best friends. Well, I did not. Yeah, because I wasn't Sasha Fiercing

the whole thing. I was like, I was pretty cool with... This is what I've learned about myself is I just obviously compartmentalized my life. I could have just hung out of the bar. I said hello to everybody. I could not.

I could not. I couldn't. I physically couldn't manage it. Okay. Yeah. I just couldn't. Okay. After I would have done happily and merrily.

And we did mill around after. People had to, They had to shut the venue, but I was happy to mill around after. It was just during. I just could not. Anyway, so we came back for the second half and it was really good fun and we did meltdowns and we read out some meltdowns from the audience. Yeah, we did games.

You'll hear it all. You'll hear it all in a few weeks. Yeah. And then we were done. And then we went out. And then we went out. It was the most beautiful evening. Yeah, it was.

We walked into Kingscrawlough Cold Drops yard. Yeah. We had the best Mexican dinner. Oh my God. And I don't even like it. Mexican food. Well, I liked that. No, it was absolutely delicious. Yeah. But also we were both ravenous.

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I do regular leg days. I am grateful for my strong legs. But fuck the shorts. Fuck the shorts. Do not be bullied by the movement. I am not wearing them. I don't need the wedges, the thigh rub, or feeling like a busted can of biscuits.

Fuck the shorts. I am very happy wearing cute, cropped barrel pants and jeans. Same. That's what she says. Is Amanda? That's Amanda. Same Amanda. Just same.

Although I am going on holiday and it is 100 degrees and I will be wearing the shorts there. But they don't count on holiday. I don't know why I don't care about it at a holiday, but I care about it here. They don't count on holiday. The same as like, even if you wear and believe me in my garden, I wear things that no one should ever have to see. Garden clothes also don't count. It's weird.

It's like when you go to the airport, like money doesn't count. Totally not. No. If I want a perfume, I want a perfume. And if the children need a nine pound baguette, whatever. Yeah. What's that about? If it was a normal Tuesday, you'd be like, spending nine pounds on a baguette and a juice.

Forget it. You have the airplane food. Can make that for you at home You have to wait three hours Yeah I'm not spending 395 on a tiny bag of M&Ms in the airport Yeah no problem

What's that? Weird right It's so weird Oh I definitely need that Chanel lipcloss 3999 bargain Weird Now it's got to the point when we go to the airport And the girls

Basically steer me away from sunglasses hot Oh yeah Because they're like mum You're an addict You are a sunglasses addict I am Yeah I am

I actually don't have enough faces for all the sunglasses that I have. One face is enough. It's enough. Yeah. Do we have time for dilemmas and meltdowns today? Yeah, I think so. Can I just say? Yeah.

Thank you for the feedback. But I also want to say one thing that we've forgotten. A huge thank you to London Utropics, Indy and Opatra. Because they supplied some beautiful goodie bags. And I have to say that London New Tropics is the coffee. company that we've worked with for quite a while so big shout out to you for always supporting our shows thank you um indy is a independent brand that we met at the every woman festival yes and they're a gut health brand and they do gut health bars yes and a gut health drink yeah yeah okay so and they gave us

some lovely bars we put them in the bag and also opatra which is a skin care and LED range and oh my god they were so super generous and they gave us like tubs of salicylicic pads white yeah but pads white the whole tub of them they retail us 60 quid so i've been using them how's my skin looking i mean i i almost didn't recognize you look so young thank you thank you so fresh and salicycic acid free yeah yeah well anyway yeah that's because of them so thank you big thank you hi lauren and nicole i have been married to my husband for 23 years and in all the that time he has been gloriously predictable. Same aftershave, same favourite drink.

We are both 50. We are going on holiday in a few days. So I was very surprised when last night he casually mentioned that he'd shaved off all his pubic hair. He said... Oh, interesting. He said that he just fancied a change and he thought it would feel cooler in the heat. It is 28 degrees in Spain and we have been going on beach holidays for two decades and this

has never once come up as a pressing evening. issue. He seemed completely unconcerned by my shocked reaction. The thing is, I cannot work out why it's bothering me so much. It's not like he's come home with a face tattoo. Part of me thinks it's ridiculous. It's his body. He has the right to do whatever he likes with it. Another part of me can't shake the feeling that it is so out of character that I wonder if there is a reason behind it. Yeah. Is he trying to look younger? Is he suddenly feeling self-conscious about aging? Or am I just reading far too much into something that is ultimately no different from getting a new haircut. I also feel guilty because if I had decided to change my grooming habits, I would expect

him to immediately accept it without making a fuss, yet here I am quietly overthinking it. I don't want to spoil our holiday by turning it into an interrogation, but I also don't want to ignore something that's left me feeling unexpectedly unsettled. But every time I think about him emerging from the hotel bathroom looking like an unusual tall newborn. It gives me the ick and I cannot take him seriously. Also, it will be a bit scratchy.

Well, that's not her problem. It might be. Oh, I see. Oh, I hadn't thought about that. Scratchy. So he'd have to like keep doing it. How are you going to grow that out and it's going to be itchy when you grow that out? My son, and bear with me, this isn't going anywhere disgusting. Okay. My son, who's 20, who is a place of football at college,

it's very, very hot in America. So when he came home in April, and he's, you know, he's a hairy man. He had completely shaved his legs. Like all the way he has up his calves and his thighs, they were so smooth. I was like, what? What have you done?

He said, honestly, he said, because I've got to put tape on my legs all the time and this and that and it's just getting in the way and got tape up my knee and tape my ankle up. So I just shaved it all off. Anyway, obviously it's been growing back and he went through the stage where he had like proper stubble

on both of his legs and it looked so weird much weird than the bald bit or the hairy bit. So that's what I'm thinking about is more like is he going to grow it back and what's that going to look like? And feel like. I have to say

if that happened with my husband I would be mildly alarmed. Because it's like what's going on here? Why do you suddenly care about your bits? Yeah. We've been together a long time. I don't care about my bits in front of you.

And also like at 50, your bits are your bits. This morning. No, I'll save it. I'll save the next show. Oh, okay. Your bits are your bits. Yeah, your bits. I don't care about his bits.

He doesn't care about my bits. My bits are his, you know. Yeah. I accept his bits. He accepts my bits and let's just leave it at that. And also, I think, Our age. I can't.

I can't. I can't with this changing of the bits. At our age, at 50, you want to be exposing the meat and two veg like that, really, do you? Yeah.

No. Very exposing. No. Keep at them hidden in the forest. It's fine. Men are supposed to be hairy. I'd actually think I'd be quite upset. I know manscaping is a thing.

No, but there's manscaping and there's shaving it all off. It's like when your dog goes to the groomers and they take the hair too short. and you're like, oh my God, I don't think I can bond with you. I just don't know if I want to see that much William Bulls. You know what I mean? I find it, I would find it a little bit confronting. I don't.

You know what I mean? I do. I do know what you mean. Yeah. Like, oh, blah. Oh, blimey. That's, that's there. There's William Bulls.

That's there. Like, keep it contained in the forest. Yeah. Just keep it. Just keep it. Men are supposed to be hairy. I expect them to be hairy I like them

I'm a great advocate for a hairy chest and a beard I find it I find it comforting and warm men should have armpit hair leg hair all the hair all the hair that's man it's manly

yes because we both find that attractive I don't want a newly shaved seal pup as a partner you know I want like an oily hair free smooth Ken doll that's to me

but I think that's generational because she's 50 yeah I know I'm saying she's in our gang yeah but I understand if you're in your 20s that you might be like oh hairy chest oh disgusting but we don't find it disgusting I don't know if it's generational it's just your type like I like a big hairy

caveman yeah yeah I think it is generational because none of the boys now like to have a hairy chest or hairy anything oh your boys don't have a hairy chest they shave their chest oh do they oh no I don't like it either I wish they didn't. Yeah. But not my business, not my body,

different generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just zip my mouth. Well, yeah. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we haven't, we haven't.

Listen, I'm sorry that you're going to have to deal with the Spanish meat and veg in your face for two weeks. I don't think, by the way, I don't think because he shaved it, he's suddenly Spanish. His meat and veg.

He might be. He might put a sombrero on top of it. Where is he going to put it? Yes, I get while you're upset. I think I would feel, I think I would feel upset too. Me too. But you can't sew it back on. No, you can't.

He's just going to have to grow that. It's hair. It will grow. Yeah. Have a nice holiday. Adios. Tea business subscription. I'm a bit scared about that.

Don't be scared. I am scared. Why? Because I use it a lot. and it helps me a lot. Well, you'll have to stop because on July the 8th, it ends. You'll have four questions a day. I know.

Yeah. But that's going to be a big problem. Well, anyway. What do you mean? Well, anyway. Can I tell, no, no, no. Okay. You'll have to figure out how to weigh salmon fillets without chat GPT.

No, I'm not weighing salmon fillets. You're such a cow. No. You are. Let me tell you something. No, the salmon fillet thing. Can I just explain? Can I explain?

Chat GPT is basically, if you go into it, it's the inside of Nicole's brain. And it is a predictable but yet weird place. Because because we share chat GPT business, right? I don't know why we didn't do this on the live show yesterday because we should have done. I mean, actually really, why did we not? But it is a pure insight into how her day runs. So most of it is, most of it, some of it is very dull. It's like how to convert Adobe PD or.

onto cloud blah blah blah there's that then there's like how to portion salmon fill it how much it wasn't portion salmon what was it was something really weird about salmon how to i'll tell you why i'll tell you why because there was a recipe that i was using yeah and it was for four people yeah but i was making the recipe yeah for 18 right right yeah and it was in ounces yeah and then i had or it was in grams and i had a big i had it in ounces yeah a big piece of salmon yeah so that's what i was converting to make it for 18 people how big a piece of, that's what it was. Salmon conversion. Salmon conversion.

That's what it said. It was salmon conversion for 18 people. Okay. Some of it's cooking. Now I could have gone, hold on. I could have gone around the fucking houses and done it on Google and like stressed myself out about it so that you wouldn't have seen it. But actually, it gave me the answer in three seconds.

How handy. Well, it was handy and all you've done is take the piss out of it. And I really felt the need to explain. How did I miss this out in the live show? I'm sure it was in the script. Then it's like, what is an alternative for a sissy squat? I'm like, she's made that up. I don't even know what that is.

So there's exercise stuff, there's cooking stuff, there's tech stuff. That's pretty much it. That's basically it. But most of what I use it for, jokes aside, is the tech stuff. Yeah, yeah. Because. Because. Because, because there's always a new piece of software.

Yeah, yeah. I definitely can't come to you about that shit. No, no, you definitely can't. And it always, always solves it for me. Yeah, always. So chat GPT has helped me learn how to video edit, not audio edit, I could do that anyway. And also now I upload a lot of software into the video edit, so it cuts a lot of shit for me. And also, but you've got to learn how to use that.

So it helps me with that. So now on the 8th of July, it's going to be gone. Yeah. And I don't know what I'm going to do. You're going to have to go. You're going to use Claude. Yeah, well, I hope Claude knows what it says. Well, no, we have this conversation.

you and I, shall I cancel the business subscription? It's costing us a lot of money every month. Yeah, cancel, we're going to Claude. So I go in to cancel. Obviously, I cannot figure out how to cancel. So I end up having to chat GPT, how to cancel chat GPT. And you know what? Chat GPT did not really help me with how to cancel chat GPT.

So I then had to ask my 13 year old and he figured it out. How do you cancel it? Well, you have to go into, never mind. It's very boring. But basically, he figured. it out. Well, you just go to your account and cancel it? No, if it was that simple, I would have done that. It was a whole thing. Anyway, it's now cancelled. You say that. Yeah. But actually, why did we leave you to do that? I have no idea. Because I'm head of accounts.

So I deal with money in and out. So this is kind of my remit, you know, unnecessary spending. Should we go? Yes. We're going to go. We're going to come back with, uh, we're, well, we're going to, we'll be back. Okay. I'm on holiday tomorrow. You are. So here's the thing. If I can get everything edited up, like in the next three hours, then we're going to have shows.

If I can't, also my internet is very patchy whilst I'm away. So it's hard to know whether or not. Listen, what we're saying is sit tight and maybe a show on Tuesday. But if there isn't, it's only because I'm away with absolutely shitty internet. and I obviously can't leave anything to Lauren. No, no, no, don't be ridiculous. Can you imagine if I left the edit to you? Don't be ridiculous.

We'd have no podcast. Don't be mad. That's mad. I know. That's a crazy thing to say. I know, I know. That's like saying imagine if I let you be my dentist. Like, why would you, why?

Why would you do that? I know. What a funny analogy, but it really worked. Might see you on Tuesday, might not, fingers crossed. We'll let you know either way. We will.