40ish - Party Pants, Fibre and Overpriced Soap

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Today on 40ish: Lauren comes undone at a party -quite literally - while Nicole is done, full stop, with cleaning the kitchen worktop for the millionth time. Meanwhile, a listener wonders whether to take a stand against the tyranny of overpriced hand soap, (shout out to Baylis & Harding fans) and we ask the big midlife questions: how much fibre does a woman actually need… and does a 20-something waitress want to hear about it? (Spoiler: no.) We love to hear from you! To share your feedback, dilemmas, rants, funny stories or general complaints about midlife please be in touch at: Email [e-mail] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 This episode is sponsored by London Nootropics Get 20% off at LondonNootropics.com with the code 40ISH To book tickets for our live show in October click here: https://cheerfulearful.podlifeevents.com/festival/40ish---live-from-cheerful-earful-podcast-festival-16-oct-2025-tickets?clientside_routing=true Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This bullshit didn't start until I turned 40 and I noticed a friend had ASO by the sink. I cannot tell you how much of my life is spent by cleaning the kitchen counter. It's a waste of life. It's a waste of my creativity. It's a waste of everything. Hello everybody. Welcome to 40-ish. I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Lauren Mishkon. This is the podcast where we tackle the joy of midlife, the fun and frolics that happen in your 40s. Isn't that true?

Late 40s. Late 40s. My son said yesterday, you know soon you're going to have to rebrand the show 50-ish. I just gave him the middle finger and walked off. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Yeah. I said this one whole year ago And I gave you the middle finger and walked off And I did the same to him But it's okay

What difference is in my Who cares? I care Why? I want to do 50-ish Why? I don't know It feels too old

To be podcasting I would think it's a young person's game Yeah, it's a young person's game Graham's podcasting Graham is podcasting And I believe he's early 60s. Yeah. So if Graham's doing it, we can do it.

Really? Is that the benchmark now? Well, he seems to have popped up a lot in our podcast. By the way, we're talking about Graham Norton. We've talked about in the last few weeks. He still has not replied to our email. No, he hasn't. Because someone else who is listening,

please email him and tell him to email us. Yeah. Because that would help. Because if our listeners are now emailing him to say, by the way, there's a show, it's the same format, it's great, you guys need to collaborate, I would love to see you both on each other's shows, then maybe you might listen to you guys. Yeah, in the meantime, listeners, don't forget that you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts for Early Access, ad free listening across both this show and Self Care Club and bonus content.

For like $4.99 a month, you get all of that on both shows, this show and self-care club. That is a lot. That's a lot of bang for your buck. Yeah. Yeah. whatever's. Bang for your buck is such a stupid expression. Why?

It's great. Why? Because it just sums it up neatly. I don't think it does. I don't think it does. Good value for money sums it up a lot better. That sounds like Woolworth's. I don't know why it just does.

If you've got something to share listeners, big, small, ranty, juicy, racy. Scandalous? Mundane. We don't care. No, the more boring, the better. Yeah. But if it's scandalous, we also want to hear that. You want to hear it.

Yeah. Email us. Hello at 40. Sorry. Do you want to do like one word each? Is that the game we're playing? Hello at 40ish.com. Dot UK.

Yeah. Wow, that was so slick. I don't know why I did that. Me neither. Anyway. What's the most 40ish thing that's happened to you this week, Nicole Goodman? Well, I have joined a paddle league. You're already in a paddle league?

No, not. No, not. You're admin of a paddle group? Yeah. Yeah. That is not a paddle leave. That's very different. How can you not know the difference?

What's not admin of a paddle group? Yeah. I have set up. It's now got 400 members in this group. Jeez. Right. That's a lot of people to play with. And I have set up.

Yeah. About five different WhatsApp groups in a WhatsApp community. Get that. Now that is not 40. I don't even know what that is. And I've totally bossed it. What's a WhatsApp community? Have you never had it like when my daughter

was playing in a lot of netball. And they put me into like this netball community where, and it's got like an announcements group. Oh, yeah, we've got one of those at school. Announcements group and then offshoots for your own class. So I've done it for the paddle community. And to the point, it wasn't hard at all. I actually loved it thriving in this space.

And also someone popped onto the bushy group, my main message that I put like the welcome message with all the links and all the links to the beginners group, the advanced group, the intermediate group, the women's group, all of that. Everything is all very self-explanatory, and it means that I don't have to run everything. Yes, good.

And they copied and pasted it and put it into the bushy group saying this is what they're doing at Finchley. It's really good. Perhaps we should do something like this. They don't realize that the admin is also on the bushy group. Woo! And I was like, that is so nice. What's a Paddle League then?

I mean, I'm asking this question, but the truth is, I don't care, and I don't want to know. I'm asking out of politeness because I really love you, but I don't care. And the truth is I'm only bringing it here because it brings good content because it gives you an opportunity to be bored. Yeah. And me an opportunity to now bore you. But what about the listeners?

What about them? Do we care about them? Do we want them to fall asleep whilst driving? Some people are actually very interested in paddle, Lauren. It's the fastest growing sport in Europe. didn't you know that's what I've heard the grapevine

that's literally about to fall out of my mouth God I am boring you're not boring but the paddle chat is fine tell us succinctly about the paddle league what do you mean tell you succinctly like what in one sentence

well you're allowed six sentences I'm just like in the context of this podcast being a middle age podcast I'm now in a sports league for fun I think that's quite middle aged how many are in your league do you have an outfit right a team outfit but no why not I don't know how many are in the league I've got no idea

but then I said to James you know how James won't play battle with me so I said to James I've joined a league so he goes what league so I told him And he goes, yeah, I've joined it too. Maybe my whole driving force for winning this league should be that James will play with me. Mine is not even in the same without wanting to pun it league. Mine is not even in the same league. Mine is so 40-ish.

It's just desperately 40-ish. I went for breakfast with my friend it was her birthday went to a very nice cafe but it's kind of like a healthy cafe it's like a really nice cafe but it's kind of like healthy with a healthy thing on it

you know like healthy vibes and I ordered why why why why what's going on here your energy shifted you've said things in a weird voice because I ordered why have you got the needle

about the healthy cafe I'll tell you why because I ordered because it was 12 o'clock and I had not yet eaten the full English which had on the mushroom tomatoes, sausage, bacon, homemade organic mixed beans.

I thought, no. It's a kidney bean, it's a bellotti bean, it's a butter bean, it's all of them mixed in a sauce. It won't like me and I won't like it. Let's just be honest here. You know what I mean? You're really rejecting the beans. So I said, can I have the breakfast but no tomato? And also, I don't want the mixed beans.

What's wrong with the tomato? I don't like a cooked tomato. only raw and my friend looked at me and she was like why aren't you having the mixed beans they look delicious and i said because i'm going to fart all day okay don't like me and she was like i just said who isn't going to fart all day well she just looked at me and she went but you know it's so good for you and i looked at her and i looked at the menu and i thought oh dr james kimross gut health dr federita and marty zoe fermentation she's talking about all of our experts that we've had on self-care club talking about gut health. That's who she's talking about

just to give some context. And what I was thinking was when Dr. Federica head nutritionist at Zoe, science and nutrition, said, you know, everyone's obsessed with protein, but actually only 2% of the population are low in protein, but do you know how many of the population are low in fiber? 99%. And I was like, oh, fine! So I just said to the waitress, actually, I've changed my mind. I will have the mixed beans. Thank you. Because, you know, at my age we really need fibre and everyone needs more fibre in their diet and do you know that most people love fibre

and my friend just looked at her to her and she doesn't care Lauren she doesn't care she's busy it's a Sunday at midday she was so busy there was a queue of like 15 people

trying to order and I am trying to have a conversation with her about gut health health and the need for fibre and how most of the population is lacking in fibre And I was like, you're right. She doesn't care. She's about 17. She's just doing this for her weekend job.

She doesn't give her a fuck. And I just felt really malaged in that moment. You were. I know. I know. I know. I've enjoyed every second of that. I really did.

And also. I love the fact that you are so invested in your gut health or Yeah, doctor is it the doctor? Is it the doctor? It was more Federica that was going through my mind, to be honest. She also said, because I remember you asked her a question. Clubbers, no, not clubbers, listeners. Yeah.

I think we should call them clubbers. Okay. They might not like that. People listening at home or in your car or on your dog walk or wherever you are. Yeah. You're just doing your washing and we are keeping you company. Hello. Hi.

The one thing she said, you asked her a very good question, Dr. Federica, who's head nutritionist at Zoe. Go and have a listen to the episode over at Self Care Club, please, clubbers. You asked her, if you could tell people to eat one thing, what would it be? And her answer was, whole grains. And we were both gobsmacked. Whole grains, yeah. I gobsmacked with straw. Like, what do you mean?

We thought you were going to say Marlborough lights. Before we dive into your dilemmas, a very quick disclaimer, we're not doctors, we're not healthcare professionals. If there is an issue you are seriously struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. Hi ladies, I would love your opinion on my mundane problem. I love a mundane problem. As my husband thinks I'm mental when I told him, oh, this is already, I love this already. Yeah.

I feel this weird pressure to have fancy soap in the downstairs loo. This bullshit didn't start until I turned 40 and I noticed a friend had ASOP by the sink, which can we say cost 30 pounds for hand soap. Yeah, it does. And now every bathroom visit feels like social one-upmanship. Now I can't stop wondering if my guests are judging me for my supermarket, Bayliss and Harding. Listen, I think those things, just because the package, well, well, I'll get to it.

I confess that I have refilled an old fancy bottle with cheap soap, but then I spiral about being that person. So, this is her dilemma. Do I keep pretending that my hand soap is bougie, or do I proudly embrace my £1.29 bottle of Carex and stand firm against the tyranny of overpriced soap? Thank you, Nishma. I have a lot to say about this. Nishma, firstly, I love your mundane problem.

Secondly, I totally understand why your husband thinks you're mental when you told him. Oh, it's not for husbands. And thirdly, Nishma, I love the fact that you shared this with us. Thank you, Nishma, to all of it. Firstly, let's start with the Bayliss and Harding. Let's, right? Please. Because just because it is in the same packaging as Moulton Brown doesn't make it Moulton Brown.

And I think everybody needs to understand that. Right? I also don't care if I go into someone's toilet and there is Bayliss and Harding there. I couldn't give a shit what it is as long as there's soap there, but I also appreciate that they've kind of tried to lure me in with the fact that it's molten round, but it isn't really, but it still looks okay.

So I'm here for the Baylis and Harding. I think it is a waste of money to have a £30-pound ASOP soap, but you know where they do. They have the £30-pound ASOP hand wash, and then they have the hand exfoliator. I love that. Soho House in White City. And also, can I just say, your sister's Pilates studio.

That's where I was thinking. I don't know why I thought White City House. Oh, my God, I love that. It's hand soap with exfoliator in it. It makes your hands. No, it's a hand soap and under the handset. Yeah, in one, in one. No, there's two there.

No, no, no. It's in one bottle. And that is why it is so delicious. And is it worth, it is delicious? And is it worth 32 pounds, though? Yeah, but we're now discussing it on the podcast. It's a nice touch. Oh, it's so nice.

It's a nice touch. And it's always there. Okay, so what is in my downstairs, Lou, do you know? I know exactly what is in your downstairs, Lou. You have a foam pump called Neat. Okay, well, I did. But it's run out. Well, you haven't invited me over to your house for a while.

You actually haven't. Do you want an email invite? Do you want a handwritten? Do you want it printed? Do you want to carry a thing? Just a fucking invite, actually. The other week, now that we're here, now that we're on it. The other week.

Yeah. There was something happened I can't remember and you were going home and I was going home and I thought well maybe in a minute she'll ask me to come over because I can't invite myself over but you didn't so I went home. You don't feel you can just say I'm coming to your house now. No. I'm sorry but I really feel that I can say to at any point I'm coming to your house now. Good. I mean I don't. Then I am the more inviting one.

I don't even feel like it's a self-invite. I just feel like I'll come if I want to. You can. Is that bad? No. Is that good? I like that people feel that way about my house. Okay. So the fact that you've now changed your foamy soap from neat to something else,

tells me how long I haven't been in your house. I haven't actually changed it. I've just moved it into the kitchen. Oh, so it's still there. Yeah, it just made me laugh because it says neat, which is very you. So me. Yeah. Clean, neat.

Yeah, it's a white packet and you refill it with the little glass files and it comes out foamy anyway. I've changed it for, da-da-da-da. Dip-tee. Bayless and Harding. But it's not the molten brown. round one. It's a new one. It's square. And the reason I chose it is because it is a very dark green and it matches the wallpaper in my downstairs toilet. So I didn't go on bouginess or expense. I went on colour scheme. I'm a fan of the Bayliss and Harding.

I don't. I didn't. I didn't. I was just saying that just because it looks like as in molten brown packaging doesn't make it molten brown. It doesn't. I have to say, Nishma, if I'm really honest with you, I can't do the CareX. It's just I can't. Well, no, because the packaging isn't very nice. Yeah. But we went to a dip-teak sample cell last week and they had loads of soaps. And I was going to get some.

But I didn't because then I remembered, actually, I don't use soap. Soaps always remind me of imperial leather. We're talking about a hard soap here. Not a liquid soap. A hard soap. Yeah, they had bars of soap. And also, where's you going to sit? Then I've got to get a soap dish and that soap dish is going to look glunky.

and I don't need that because it's another thing to clean. I went through the whole thing at this dip tics outside. I said, oh, I bet it smells nice but then it's like it's only going to be nice

when I have people over and no I can't build it. Or maybe I can give it as a gift but who wants a hard soap as a gift? It is a nice gift for the right person. And then my friend went after me hours later and she wrote back

okay, I got four sods and blah blah and blah blah and I said I was going to get the soes but then I remember I don't use soap and she goes and neither do I. I don't even know why I bought them. You're going to get one when she comes over to your house

for dinner. You know what? I'd be very happy. Okay. Then you'll have to buy a soap dish and then the whole problem continues. Oh, it's an ongoing problem. How do you feel about the refilling of the posh bottle with a cheap soap? No, you're not down with that. I think you're better off. Here's a little hack for you. Go on.

Go to B&M. They have got such lovely but cheap soap dispensers. And they look great. they really do hashtag live hack then you can put your cheap shit in there

and no one knows and no one thinks that you're trying to pass it off as a molten brown or a diptee or an Aesop or and you've only got to buy that once and then you can buy your £120 carrex which is like 30 bottles of ASOP

yeah but you know what if someone came over and they bought me an Aesop exfoliating hand I'd be so happy with that who is buying, sorry what boozy friends do you have who is I'm not buying that for you fuck that I don't get it

enough for you to get that. I'm just saying I would really would appreciate that as a gift because it's so highbrow. I would be so happy with that. Yeah. We have peak middle age. Yeah. When that's the sort of shit that makes us happy.

You're because you're never going to buy it for yourself. No. We do actually have a nice one in our, in our bathroom upstairs because only me and all are using it. So I feel like, yeah. You know, it's only two people. It lasts a while. So we always have a nice one.

My friend bought me a Lelabo shower. gel for my birthday. Dreamy. It is so gorgeous. It is so gorgeous but then I put it in the shower and then when I use it, I take it out the shower because nobody else is allowed to use that shit. Fair enough.

No way. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. And then I went to a hotel and their shower gel and hand cream and hand soap of choice was La Larbo. I literally stripped that one bear when you left. I literally stunk of the shit.

I was like sliding around. And then I felt like I should have taken a bottle just to get I mean why didn't you why didn't you just pack it

all in your bag when you left you can't nick the bottle the whole oh it was a big bottle massive oh it was it

oh it was just amazing now if I walked into someone's house and they had a larabo hand wash there I would be like

well impressed yeah I need to neshma I don't know what to tell you I just you do you

babes what does she say do I keep pretending my hand soap is bougie or do I proudly embrace my £1.29 bottle of CareX. You know

what? I think go to B&M, get the soap dispenser, stick your shit CareX in there and no one's going to ask any questions. I think that is such solid advice. Perhaps the best advice we've ever given on this podcast. We. It's me.

We had a lovely voice note. Oh, yeah. It's from Jennifer. Okay. Hi, ladies. This is Jenny from Canada, and I listened to your podcast, and I was nodding my head along with the rant about the website recipe issues with stories. Thank you.

Thank you, Jennifer. And I wanted to share my tip with you in case it helps. And that is if you. select print or the printer version it will give you just the recipe ingredients and instructions and then you can screenshot that anyway hope that helps thanks bye brilliant what a hack you select print of course it does print version yeah yeah because it's not going to print the life story is yeah what i also love about that voice note is that you can hear her dog click clacking across the floor yeah yeah i just want to know what dog she's

Yeah, me too. Jenny, thank you. That is such a hack. Yeah. Isn't it? It really is. Other people have also reported back on this. Oh yeah?

Yup. Someone said on YouTube, do you love it? If you ever need a private chef, I can come for you two. No need for any recipe. Leave it to me. I get straight to the point. Looking lovely again, ladies. The pod is called 40ish, but surely you two lovelies can only be in your early 30s.

Is this from a man? I don't know. What a schmoozer. I said to him or her, what a shoozer. schmoozer. Hello, someone's just offered to cook us dinner. He slash she could be anywhere in the world. Or they?

You're right. He, she, they could be anywhere in the world. But I would love a private show. They said that they could come for us, no need to replace any, no need for any recipe, leave it to me. Great. Get straight to the point. Come any time. Do it at my house.

I'll get some A sort of pants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm up for that. And AJ said, it makes me want to throw my phone out the window. Yes.

Yeah. It's annoying. It is annoying. It's such, you know what it is, AJ? It's a waste of time. It's not efficient. I'm on the recipe because I've got things to do, which is cook, get this done, get it cleaned up so I can sit down. I don't need a life story about.

You're a mouthy lemons. Yeah. Et cetera. Thank you. Thank you. How are the meltdowns going this week? Endless. Endless.

Oh. Oh. Oh, dear. I've got another thing yesterday it was happening. Yeah. In the what's thankless, endless and necessary. Yeah. Laundry, obviously.

One. No, well, I've done that one already. Yeah, you have, but it's still happening. Cleaning my kitchen counters. Oh, endless. Endless, thankless, necessary. Because if I don't do it, it's fucking gross. I know, you have to do it.

And everyone's like, Oh, go, you've got such a CD. It's not OCD to detox, your kitchen counter. You see that, I said detox, which presumes that we all use detox. I don't all use detox. What do you use? I use. Flash.

I use neat. They also have anti-back spray now. And it's mango and fig, and it's delicious. I know I'm not tasting it, but it's delicious. It makes that joy better. What now? It makes it better. It makes the cleaning Bella.

You've got to stop. It does. Yeah, it's endless. It's thankless. It's necessary. Yeah, because if you don't do it, it's gross. It's just utterly gross. But all I do, all weekend, is clean my kitchen counter.

It's all I do. In fact, that's all I do. Other than record and talk shit here and maybe edit this show occasionally, all I do is clean the kitchen counter. It does not matter what time of day I walk into the kitchen or what time of day I walk out of the kitchen whenever I walk back into the kitchen, it needs cleaning. It doesn't even matter if no one else has been there.

In fact, that's the only time it doesn't need cleaning when no one else has been in that room. But there is always someone in my house other than me, always, always, making a mess of the kitchen counters. I cannot tell you how much of my life is spent by cleaning the kitchen counter it's a waste of life it's a waste of my creativity it's a waste of everything and i said to adam i just wish you could clear it up because it gives me so much anxiety to have to keep cleaning it what did he say he rolled his eyes he rolled his eyes do you know

you're still better off than me because i have a five ring gas hole oh serious okay i've got an induction So you just wipe it. So after, you know, the 20th time of cleaning that a day, I did actually say to Ollie a few weeks ago, if I wasn't cleaning this gas hob and the kitchen counters so often, I could probably run the country. And he was like, well, he probably couldn't, but I know what you're saying. You know, it does take up time. That's nice of him. Yeah. Not that he's right. He's right. To be fair, he's right. But it does take up a lot of time. As in, I know what you're saying, like, oh, maybe I'll take over. But no. No, no, don't be silly. Don't be silly. And the marmite it's when it's when it's with marmite that really fucks me off because i also eat marmite daily

but i don't leave residues of drips of marmite i just don't and the marmite because then it goes on the cloth and the cloth needs to wash it's a whole thing with the marmite it's a whole thing i just can't with the marmite tin and then every morning when i get the marmite out sticky then i've got to wash my marmite jar then i've got to wash my hands if marmite wasn't so delicious i would chuck the fucker away so no one can eat in our mic but it is delicious

so you put up with it what's yours what's yours oh my is quite special I went to a party I was wearing a short dress and when I say short no no no don't do that face

when I say short I mean knee length as in normally I wear maxi I am 47 it's not a mini it was a knee length dress but for me a knee length dress above the knee but not a mini so underneath it i was wearing it you yes a one piece underwear strapless one piece underwear with poppers like a swimming costume yeah imagine like a strapless swimming costume but with poppers at the crotch that was how it did up and i'm at the party and i've had a few drinks no one knows where this is going and i've also got my period

that morning, which was a surprise and not a delight. And I was chatting to this woman who, as it turned out, knew James. Oh,

how did James' name come up? Because she was like, oh my gosh, I really recognise you from social media. Oh, so embarrassing. So embarrassing.

She's like, oh. Yeah, and it's like, you don't know what clip you've seen because we don't watch the clips anyway and it's just, I'm like, oh, I need to go now.

I've got to put, I was like, oh, a podcast. She's like, oh, yeah, I know your podcast and I know the studio and I know J. Anyway, I'm in the middle of this conversation and then I hear and simultaneously feel. And is it holding you in? It's holding everything in. And I'm like, standing in the middle of this very busy room. There's 200 people in this room.

talking to this woman who knows me off the social media. It doesn't know me in real life. With my period, day one, the nanny, full airing of the nanny. Hold on, you didn't have knickers on. That was my underwear. It was a one-piece underwear. No, I understand. Why would I have knickers underneath that?

Because I would always put knickers on. How? What do you mean how? Put them on. No. One leg and then the other leg that I've pulled it up. Then there's too much bulk. How big you're knickers?

I'm saying, why do you need knickers and a one-piece underwear? I just don't think that is underwear. I mean, I know it's a bra, but I wouldn't necessarily use it for knickers. It's a whole body. Anyway, the vaj is being aired out, yep. It's a whole. So, so vaj is, that's why. That is why.

No one needs an airing of a badge. Literally, it's like I can feel the wind, blowing up the dress. And it's a white dress. You didn't. No, I'm about to ask you. Okay. I'm like, Tam packs.

Yeah, yeah, obviously. I'm not free bleeding in a white dress at a party. No, but you could have had a sandwich towel on? Oh, no, no, no. That would, could you imagine the sandwich town went flying across the party. That's not funny. That is not funny. And I don't know how to quite like extricate myself.

And also like every time I'm standing there, I'm so hyper aware of your nunny. Of the nunny. Yeah. And the fact that I really desperately need to extricate myself from the conversation, go to the toilet. and pop myself up. It's going to happen again all night now. It wasn't, I mean, I weren't going to say it was a midlife meltdown,

but it was a definite moment of like, this is not cool or fun. What did you say to her? Did you tell her? Because if she listens to the podcast, then it's fine. I didn't tell her. I just sort of finished the conversation and moved on. And then another friend came up to talk to me and I said to her,

listen, I'm really sorry, but I can you take this drink? I have to go upstairs to the Lou because I am airing the nunny. Like, I have got a pop-up. period white dress situation going on here and I need to deal with it and she was like I hear you go I went I dealt with it didn't happen again it was okay can I just say yeah a meltdown is happening in real time what do you mean because I just got a notification on my phone yeah that says wanging on yeah has added a post you mentioned them recently shut up oh it's not actually saying that we're in it we're not I get them every day oh

So it's constantly reminding me that we have mentioned them recently, and guess what, they have not mentioned us. No, they don't need to mention us. Or get back to us. Should I read you the listeners rant? Yeah. I don't know how you'll feel about this. I relate. Hi, Lauren and Nicole.

My rant is as follows. A younger family member got married in June this year. The couple already lived together in their own house, so traditional wedding gifts were not required, and they requested cash towards a honeymoon. Neither me, my sister or my mum have received a thank you in any form. I don't know if I'm just middle-aged and old-fashioned and it's no longer a thing to send a thank you, whether it's text, email or handwritten note, but I think it's incredibly rude, Maria. Maria, it is incredibly rude. That is nothing to do with age. If you have taken the time to buy them a gift or give them cash to their honeymoon, they should say thank you. Yeah. Sorry? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. End of. End of. Maria. We're all in agreement. We all agree with you there. We do. Very, very, very rude. Yeah, it's rude. Have you ever not had a thank you from like a wedding or something like that? It's not that I remember. Have you? Yeah, one. And you know what? I really remember it. Because I sent such a nice gift and I never, ever, ever received a thank you.

And to the point where I had to say to the sister of the groom, did your brother, like, I did send your brother again. I just wanted to make sure he got it. never sent the next card who is winning this week I think it's me do you yeah I'm claiming it

I think that you're representing the every woman this week thank you you're representing for the masses every woman every fucking person in the whole world that has to clean a kitchen counter I mean mine is niche I appreciate that yours is funny it was niche it's not really a meltdown

it was in the moment okay let me tell you fair fair Fair. I'm the winner. Can I crown myself the winner? Sure. Take it. Thank. Why not? I mean, what's your prize? Going home to clean your kitchen counter, basically. Yeah, I haven't been there for four hours. So can you imagine what state is going to be when I get home? Terrible state. Terrible. You can come to my house tomorrow if you like and I'll clean the kitchen counters.

Oh, is that you inviting me over? Yeah, and I'll clean the kitchen counters. Lovely. They'll smell of mango and fig. And you will love it. Oh, we're so tragic. I can't go with it. That is our episode of 40-ish. We should be back on Thursday with a brand new episode, so please keep tuning in.

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