40ish - Pumpkins, Paranormal Activity & Panic Buys

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

This week on 40ish: It’s Halloween, and things are getting spooky. We can’t decide what’s scarier: Lauren’s truly terrifying childhood tale, or Nicole juggling three different costumes for her daughter’s Halloween events. A listener wants to know do you believe in the paranormal? She’s got some seriously creepy goings-on in her new home. Meanwhile, two other women are in full seasonal meltdown: when did pumpkin carving become an elite sport, and why do kids’ costumes cost more than actual adult clothes? (Witch, please, we are too tired for this shit)  It’s ghosts, glitter, and gory amounts of prep - welcome to Halloween, midlife edition. We love to hear from you! To share your feedback, dilemmas, rants, funny stories or general complaints about midlife please be in touch at: Email [e-mail] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 This episode is sponsored by London Nootropics Get 20% off at LondonNootropics.com with the code 40ISH Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We don't tackle everything. We don't tackle politics. We don't tackle the... We actually don't tackle anything. What do we actually tackle? Mowning. Mowning. Yeah.

Meltdowns. Chaos. Yeah. People not functioning. People wanting to share the fact that life doesn't run so smooth when you're no longer 18. Yeah. That shit, you know? It doesn't always run smooth when you're 18.

No, in fact, probably less smooth. I would hate to be 18 again. I would love to. Love it. Did you? Yeah. Not now. I don't want to be 18 now.

I want to be 18 when I was 18. I want to go, you mean you don't want to be 18 with the knowledge that you have? No, I mean I don't want to be. I don't want to be 18 with TikTok, Instagram, no one going out, no one able to drive, no one having sex, everyone with social anxiety. What do you mean no one going out? I just mean the kids now. Your kids go out.

My kids go out. I know, but I'm saying when we were 18, I want to go back to. are 18 when we lived life, not in our bedrooms on a screen. And I would really suck the marrow out of that shit now with the hindsight of having been 47. But you can't, first, you can't go back to being 18. And secondly, you definitely can't go back to being 18. Well, you definitely can't go back to being 18. But you definitely can't go back to being 18 without social media and phones.

You just can't. I know, but it was fun. It was really fun. And it could be more fun now. You know. Well, it wouldn't be, would it? Because you wouldn't know. You wouldn't have the hindsight because you can't have the hindsight.

You know what I mean? But we've already done it. Yeah, I know. We've already done it. Anyway, I like being 48. Do you? I think it's shit. And that is our motivational TED talk for the day.

The end. Why is it shit? Are you joking me? First of you're not 48, so you don't know. Not yet. What's shit about it? Do you want to list the ways that it's not as fun as when you're 18? No, I didn't say that.

Are you serious? I didn't say that. I said, I like being 48. You said, do you? I think it's shit. So I said, why is it shit? Okay, can we start with gravity? Let's go with just that one.

You know what? I have to say, I did look. I caught sight of myself in the mirror on one of the paddle courts today. And my boobs needed a second bra. I won't lie. They needed a second bra. Just like I need like a second bra. set of contact lenses, I now need two bras.

Two. What's that about? Gravity. Yeah. Okay, what's the next thing? But also, don't really care. Like, who fucking cares? My husband doesn't care. Why do I care? Graying. Graying. That? It's not that shit. Graying is not that shit.

It's not that fun. It's just not that shit. Go on. Akes and pains. Yeah, they're not fun. Hangovers. I don't really have hangovers. Irritability. Well, you would if you drank. I drank every day on holiday but I'd never say that like it's a badge of pride I drank alcohol every day look at me I did every day good good day and I did not wake up with one hangover I never get hangover I never because I never ever get hangover on holiday oh come on what's that about swear to you what's that maybe I'm just relaxed

maybe I don't care maybe if I've got a hangover I sleep it off not doing anything I don't know okay okay yeah maybe it's that okay what else is shit um um You're closer to death. Menopause. Nothing's as fun. You're more tired. I actually disagree with that. Nothing's as fun.

I completely disagree with that. I have so much fun at 48. It's not the same fun. No. But it doesn't mean that it's not fun. It's not the same fun. But the things that I did when I was younger, I don't find remotely fun anymore.

Of course you don't. Right. But it was actual fun. We just don't find it fun now. Yeah, but I see. still have fun. Yeah, it's different fun. It's adult fun. But it's just a lot of adulting. But fun is fun. It doesn't matter what it is. If it's fun, it's fun. But my fun is not what young people would find fun. Who why did young people have to find it fun? They don't. It's just

the feeling of it. What do you? Tell me something you find fun. What exactly do you find fun? Walking my dog. That's not fun. It is fun. It's not. It's not. I actually do find that really fun. You find it fun. Yeah. Fun. Listen, I love walking my dog. Yeah. I don't find it fun. I do because I meet loads of people and all my friends and my dog friends and we chat and I really do actually find it fun. Oh. Sorry. No, I love walking my dog. Yeah. But I can't say that's how I have fun. Okay, walking your dog. Anything else? Sorry, I don't mean to shame you or fun. What else? The big wash. I am not counting washing as far.

Well, you did a few weeks ago. FRII. You actually did. You did. I like going for dinners. That's fun. I like going for dinner. Well, it depends on you're with.

Yeah, that's also true. Yeah. I like. Sometimes it's not fun. You're like, why am I here? You know? And then I think, I'm the most fun thing here. Sometimes I'll leave.

I used to think that on dates a long time ago when I used to date. I used to think the most, and my friends would go, like, call me the next day. How was it? Well, the most fun thing about that date was me. Then you know it's not a good date. No. They had a great time. Yeah, because you were fun.

Anton decking it up. Yeah, I get it. Anten decking it out. Oh, you've up. Dirty John, well, don't think I escaped me. Tell the listeners, bring them in on the private joke. The private joke is that I would always use the term Michael Barrymore it up as an all-round entertainer.

And then one day we had... As in, as in, give it context. As in, if you're at a table and everyone's really boring and no one's talking, I have always in my life felt the pressure to be Michael Barrymore up the situation and when I shared this with Nicole she said you can't use Michael Barrymore

it's such a dated reference I said yes but who is an all round entertainer we don't have entertainers anymore in inverted commas they're all dead Bruce Foreside Jimmy Tarbuck all these people right entertainers Les Doris Dorson Les Dawson Les Dennis all the Lesz is

so we were like well who's an all round entertainer now Anton Dek so I've updated the reference. I don't know if they are and all around entertainment. They are, aren't they? They do sing and they do dancers and skits and presenting. They are our modern day equivalent of a Michael Barrymore slash Jeremy Beedle slash all the leisies. Jeremy Beedle.

Wow. Silla Black. Wow. Okay. Do you see what I mean? You are really nostalgic today. I'm nostalgic every day. Mainly for when my bisms were a few meters higher. That's what I'm nostalgic for. Bras. Okay.

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Add free listening. Cross both this show and Self-Cat Club. Get bonus content. Watch us on Spotify. And change recording. Yeah. is he better be otherwise we've just oh it's not even funny james james is in a good mood today should we talk about that what do we have to he just said fuck off he doesn't mean it he is in a good

mood the thing is the last time when we saw you james you weren't in a good mood but then we weren't here last week because i was on holiday so i think maybe he missed maybe missed us although we did come 20 minutes late today yeah he's laughing he's in a good mood he's jolly that's good isn't it maybe he's winning in his paddle league i hope he is if you're jolly or really not jolly you can email us hello at 40ish.com. UK be in touch be part of the conversation

we want to hear from you now I want to head into how have we already done this no well we've already had like quite a lengthy conversation about what's fun and what is it

we're just skipping we're just skipping well okay fuck it yeah we're skipping can I just say right I've been away with my sister for the past week

she is such a rule follower is she so are you like me so are you you are such a rule follower unless it comes to parking then you just park whatever the fuck you want my sister doesn't do that my sister needs permission to do everything i don't understand it this is you it's like you're such a rule follower

we've done 15 20 minutes of the podcast we don't now need to go back into format it's okay because your sister's the oldest right and when you're the oldest child in the family you are always the conformist and the conservative with a small C that's just the way it goes and then the second one the second and third children are freed up to be these kind of wild cards like you I'm not a wild card well compared to her you are

compared to her I am right and you generally I'm not a wild card but like my oldest child he is the same as me very conformist very and my second one not so much now but when they were kids he was like the nutter he was always naked he was always running he was always he was like

much more cuckoo you know because they're freed up because we've taken the responsibility on board you see and so the second one is left It's interesting. Yeah. What's happening with your fringe?

Are we growing it out? It's quite long. Are you growing it out? I'm not growing it out, but also I'm just letting it do its thing. I'm just freeing the fringe. So you are growing out. No, I will definitely cut it when I can be bothered to go to the hairdressers and get that done. I was thinking the other day, I wonder how many weeks I've got left before Nicole gives me the old.

Do I need to cut my hair, Nicole? Yes, you do. Okay. What do you mean gives me the old? You're asking me Yeah, I ask you But I know the answer before I asked you This fucks me off

You see this is a permission thing That's a permission thing I need the permission This fucks me off Why Because you ask me I don't give you my honest opinion And then you get fucked off with me

And then it comes back at me Like three weeks later But you know why Because I hate getting it cut But then don't ask But I know it needs cutting So I need you to tell me You know it's a quandri only

You can deal with But actually why am I getting in trouble why am I getting in trouble I don't know why I tell you why because I hate getting it cut but I know I have to have it cut sorry sorry Nicole okay it doesn't need cutting that's great

it's Halloween to be honest what do you want me to be honest or not go on yeah now we're here no actually you know what no now we're here no go on now we're here scared I'm actually scared it doesn't it doesn't he cutting no what grow out of the fringe no don't grow out of the fringe What? Oh my God, just say it now.

I'm scared. I don't want to. What? Was that this show? Yeah. Do I talk about bras this show? Yeah. About like hours ago.

It probably was hours ago. It's probably last week's show. Just say it. No, I'm not saying anything. Why? Is it mean? No, it's not remotely mean. Oh.

But you seem to think I'm being mean when I'm really not being mean. Go on. Just say it. No, I sent you a text message last night. You wrote back, you're being mean. I thought, I'm not being mean. I had to phone you to, like, confirm that I wasn't being mean. Is it about my fringe?

It's actually not about your fringe. Is it about my hair? I plead the fifth. Plead the fib. By here, let's just get into a dilemma. It's Halloween, you know. Yeah. Spooky.

Well, this is. Bookey. Go on, read it to us. Hi ladies, big fan of the pod. I want to know if you believe in the afterlife because I have a dilemma that is giving me actual chills. Okay, are you ready? Oh, it's like that podcast, ghost stories. My husband and I just moved into this old Victorian house in the northeast. It's got a ton of charm and original features. It's a fixer-upper with character vibe. Oh, lovely. The estate agent called it quirky which in hindsight i now think was code for possibly haunted wouldn't you have to i'm not joking wouldn't you have to declare that in the sale i i think like you have to declare if there's

like a troublesome neighbor and shit like that i believe i'm not sure if this is right and we're going to get a load of estate agents writing into us but i believe if there was a murder in the house they do need to tell you that not if someone died there but if there was a murder, I think. I'd actually like to know that. So if anyone's listening, please can you DM us on Instagram or just email us? Hello at fortiesh.com. But haunted could just mean someone died there, not necessarily in a bad way.

They might have just been old. I mean... No, but that doesn't mean haunted. They could have died and then haunted it. No. What I'm saying, yeah, but not just because someone's died doesn't make the place haunted. No, of course not. But even if someone's murdered doesn't mean the place is haunted.

Okay. Anyway, she says the first weird thing was the Alexa. About a week after we moved in, it started playing music on its own. Oh no, no, no, no, no, I don't like it. Old jazz, really crackily, like something from the 30s. No, no, no, no, no. I thought maybe a neighbour had connected to it accidentally, so I just unplugged it. The next morning, I saw a text from an unknown number that came in overnight saying,

why did you turn it off? Oh, that's horrific. I thought it was just a coincidence or a joke for my husband, but he swears it wasn't. Since then, the lights flicker every night at the same time, and my dog refuses to go down the steps into the basement. Honestly, same. My husband says the lights are just old wiring. Yes, probably that's very likely.

But I am now paranoid. I see shadows and I hear noises, especially through the baby monitor, so I'm not sleeping well. Oh, my God. At this point, I'm not sure if I need an electrician or an exorcist. So here is my dilemma. Do I get someone in to cleanse the energy? My husband thinks I am completely insane when I mentioned this. Or do we just sell the place before doing it up

and I end up starring in my own Netflix true crime documentary, Hannah? Yes, I believe in the afterlife for your first question. No, I don't believe that any of this is coincidental. I think sometimes, and often it can be like one of the ghost spirits been stuck. between this life and the afterlife and that's why they're sort of still hanging around get some sage clean the energy or perhaps you want to think about befriending the ghost you seem very up on this are you an exorcist in your spare time i i listened to a lot of true crime okay um don't remember that true crime series that we were obsessed with ghost stories it was amazing it was all

this sort of stuff um i think you need to find out the story of the house if you can yeah I mean, I would definitely be getting someone in to, I don't know who that is, like a... Yeah, yeah, like an exorcist. They do have them, like energy cleaners. But an exorcist isn't an energy cleaner. No, it's a different thing. You could just get an energy. An exorcism is to get rid of it. Yeah, if there's a demon or something.

But it doesn't say, it might not be a demon. It doesn't sound malevolent. It just sounds spooky. It sounds spooky, but that's why I'm saying maybe you need to get the lay of the story so that you can actually not be scared. It's the unknown that's scaring you, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I would be scared. I would be very scared and very uncomfortable, so I would deal with this ASAP. Should I tell you a story now? No. Why? Because I don't, is it spooky? It's Halloween.

I'm telling it anyway. You can just go, la la. Well, no one will hear it then. Okay. Don't do that then. I can tell you my story. When I was small, small enough that I was still getting into bed with my mum and dad. So I must have been five or six, maybe about six.

I remember getting in between them one night. It was either the night or the early morning in our house. And in the corner of their bedroom, there was like a rocking chair. And my dad always had his clothes on it. I mean, what man doesn't put his clothes on the chair in the bedroom? And I remember lying there. And you know at that age, like it's the safest place to be. is in bed with your mom and dad like nothing scary happens they smell nice and you're in there

and you're all cozy with them together anyway I looked over in the corner of the room and I could see what I would say at that age a witch a witch a very scary witch sitting in the chair in my mum and dad's bedroom and I remember being terrified even though I was with my parents like absolutely terrified and burying my head under the duvet and I never ever ever told anyone including my parents I just never spoke of it I thought if I never talk about it and I never think about it. It'll never happen again and it was the scariest thing of my life. Anyway, cut forward 30 years later, I was talking to my brother about our old house and how nice it was and what he remembered of it and he said to me and my brother's three years younger than me. He said, yeah,

yeah, the house was great apart from the witch and mom and dad's room. And I was like, what? Oh my God. He just gave me shivers. What did you say? And he said, yeah, there was a witch in mom and dad's room and I swear to you we had never ever discussed it but he also saw it isn't that creepy as fuck and it was not a creepy house classic witch yeah like witch in the wizard of all's witch yeah I mean when you're a little child yeah that was what in my head that was the word that came in but yeah old lady scary old lady yeah Jesus you really you really creep me out now I think I need to take a break okay That's annoying.

What? You're a muffler. You don't hear it? Oh, I don't even notice it. I usually drown it out with the radio. How's this? Oh, yeah. Way better.

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Halloween? Yeah. Well, I mean, just the amount of money that I seem to be spending on Halloween outfits is pissing me off. Because they don't just have one party now. They have Thursday, Friday and Saturday night they have parties. Oh, that's ridiculous. Well, they're young. But is it just they're having a party and it's near Halloween, so they call it a Halloween party?

No, it's a Halloween party. Oh, why so many? Because they're young. And it's fun. Oh, it's fun. Oh, it's fun. When you're 15, you like to go to parties and dress up. That's true.

And it's like the most fun of the year. Yeah. Josh is going to two Halloween parties. Well, there you go. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. He's not dressing up.

He did ask if he could borrow something really weird of mine. I can't remember what it was. Yeah, but no, he's not. They're not dressing up. Well, they're just giving it a nod. I actually had a very sad midlife moment to do with Halloween. I realized that obviously my children don't trickle. treat anymore because if my 21-year-old went out trick-or-treating, it'd be very weird.

And I have a huge bag in the loft, labeled Halloween bag, and I gave it to my neighbors who have three little girls under six. I gave them the whole bag, everything. It's just gone. What do you mean everything? All the costumes, the buckets, the decorations, everything I've been collecting for like 20 years. I gave them the whole bag and I said, you know what, I can see you've decorated your house, you've got three little girls, there's just a ton of Halloween stuff in here. it's all yours. Halloween has gotten a lot bigger than when we were younger. Yeah.

Right? It was never really, I mean, we used to go trick or treating maybe, but that was it. We only went in areas where there was a huge bulk of Americans because they were the only people who knew kind of what it was and were up for it. The rest of the time, it was not a thing. I feel like Halloween is just like a real major holiday now. It's definitely bigger. Yeah.

Yeah. It's taken over my household. And my son is living in the States now. So I've said to him, my God, you're going to have a lot. lot of parties next weekend like a ton of Halloween. Does he? Yeah, there's a ton of Halloween themed stuff. Lovely. Of course, yeah.

Then it's Thanksgiving. So these are the listener meltdowns. Are you ready? Okay. Hi ladies. Call this perimenopause or me just being a grumpy bitch. But please tell me when and why pumpkin carving has become a sodding Olympic level art form. Yeah. I remember in the 80s when a triangle nose and mouth were perfectly acceptable.

Now my kids are showing me videos. YouTube of every mum sculpting full-scale Disney characters with a small drill or creating a scene of characters from Wicked this is the sort of shit they are expecting from me because you know I don't have enough to do with working looking after them

the house and the cats I tried really hard under pressure to make a Taylor Swift profile after being bullied to follow the tutorial but the kids said it looked like a man having a breakdown which seemed fitting as it's basically a carving of meat in vegetable form seriously fuck

this and breathe thank you beth ann listen the pumpkin carving because it was always in half term which was perfect timing that was a day's activity totally a day's activity yeah and then you make pumpkin soup and then you make pumpkin soup yeah so that was great that was a day ticked off of half term but the mess oh the mess and the pumpkin seeds it goes everywhere can i just say oh you're going to hate me for saying this i'm saying it i don't get oh god Hold on. Let me guess. It's going to be something to do with pumpkins and keeping things clean. No, it's not. Well, I did. I used to plastic the table, obviously, when they were little. No, it's worse than that. You're going to hate this so much. You can take the pumpkin seeds, right? And then you can roast them with olive oil, salt and chili, and they're really nice. Oh, no, I don't hate that. Okay. I thought you would hate that. I thought you'd be like, oh, my God, it's so huge to just find some fucking cooking thing to do with the seeds. it's like they're really yummy Can I just say

I like to cook No I know But I thought like you'd find that quite annoying No I would utilise the pumpkin seeds I actually think it's quite clever They were It's actually yummy

Anyway if anyone is carving I love a pumpkin seed Yeah me too But that's especially in some granola That's the recipe Roaster in a tin Olive all salt and chili flakes Yum

Yum Okay Lynn has one as well There's two this week Hi Nicole, hi Lauren. When did Halloween costumes for kids start costing as much as an actual outfit? Yes. I swear they used to be about 8 quid in ASDA. Now they're over 20 quid and the kids change their minds daily in the run-up.

One minute they're a witch, then a zombie, then a fucking unicorn demon, bat princess astronaut. And by the time I figured out what that even means, they've decided to go as nothing and they want to stay at home. I am now the proud owner of three unused costumes that have the labels ripped out and a glove missing and I can't return them and I have a deep, deep sense of rage, Lynn. Wow, we have some angry people about this today.

Halloween is causing some rage issues. My daughter is going as Kesha for one of them. What? Dorothy for another. Hang on. Hang on. Kesha. Yeah. That is a real retro choice.

Yeah, yeah. How does she even know who Kesha is? It's a 2000 party. Kesha. Yeah. Okay. Dorothy. Right.

Have you had to buy Ruby slippers? I can't even talk about it. Right. And what's the third one? Three different costumes. She couldn't wear the three different parties. She couldn't be the same person. Don't be ridiculous.

Oh, and a Cheshire cat. How's she doing that? She's bought a pink skirt. She's got a pink tail. She's got pink ears. It's actually very cute. Okay. Okay.

I do want to know about the Dorothy outfit. She needs the pin, the pinny, the pinafore dress, blue with the white and then the red shoes and the white socks. I lost it at the Dorothy costume because there was another white frilly skirt in the basket. And I literally went into her wardrobe and started yanking out all the right frilly skirts I bought for her over the last three years. I'm like, you can wear one of these. She's like, oh, right, relax. I'm like, no, you relax. No, you relax.

Just wear the skirt. Yeah. You don't have girls. It's just a whole thing. I don't. I don't. makeup trial and she came down for dinner in this Keshim makeup, Keshire makeup, which had gone wrong. And then it took my daughter's boyfriend about 20 minutes from saying, what's going on with

your eye? How would you know she's Keshire? Does she have Keshire written on a label on her front or anything? I think it's more because she can put sort of blue extensions in her hair and do a fun makeup and wear a loud outfit and, you know. Okay, okay. I'm surprised she didn't go with you. She was going to Aguil-Livine.

Laverne Levin? Avril Levine? Avril Levine. Yeah. I see, goes to her, she's edgy, she's cool, she's a bit punked. And she's darker, darker hair, which would be easier for how to pull off. But also the cuffs and the baggy trousers and, you know, no. No. No. Too easy. Anyway, the whole thing, it's just, oh. And the picking up and the late nights and one of the roads where I am gets closed because they have like a proper party in the streets. Oh, wow. Oh, like all the houses, they go all. out and have street parties on each hat it's like amazing they have DJs they have like candy floss machines what goes all out it's amazing absolutely amazing that is a whole thing lighting show yeah Jonathan Ross does a very cool Halloween he used to have a party inside but now he just does Halloween for the kids but he doesn't have his party but he has like actors dressing up the giveaway sweet he decorates the whole front garden and there's always like you've ever been I've never been and he doesn't live very far from us no he doesn't live very far from us

I have been because all the kids walk around but they always know that when you go to that house there's going to be like the equivalent of like a nativity but he does get actors in and it's a very fun house to pass. That's so great. Very cool.

Is that fun? It's Halloween fun? I don't find Halloween fun. I don't find Halloween fun. I don't just don't do it anymore the last two years. But it's very civilised where I am. If you don't have a pumpkin out and your lights on, everyone knows not to knock asking for sweets. Same. It's like Exactly. It's very clear if you're giving out or you're not giving out.

I just leave sweets on the doorstep now. Do you? I mean, I used to. And I used to, even when the kids stopped doing it, I had a couple of years where I would just get a huge bucket of sweets and I'd always answer the door. But now I'm like, you know what, guys, I've served my time. Oh, you're done. I think I'm done. Yeah. Done. Wow. I know. Is that really awful? It's a little. It's a little sad. It's a little, yeah. I'm quite shocked. But also, like, Josh is going to be out. I don't really want to spend the whole evening. Getting up and down. Getting up and down.

Standing at the front door. Like when their kids were little, it was fun because you do your trick or treat. You come back and then it would be like, oh, who's knocking on the door and all the neighbours? Now I'm like, yeah, kids, get your sugar somewhere else. Oh. Sorry. Sorry, not sorry. This is new.

It is new. It's new and it's sad. It is. It is. I'm watching strictly. I don't want to be getting up 40 times to say, oh, look at you in your costume. I don't care anymore. I've done 21 years of it.

I've served my time. Good night. God bless. There's a lot of rage around Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. True that. Okay.

Should we sign off? Go trick or treating? Do you prefer a trick or a treat? A treat. Obviously, no one wants the trick. No one wants that shit. No one wants the fucking trick. Well, they don't even trick anymore.

Like, you used to do egg the house or egg the car. But you know who's going to egg the house or egg the car? It's so wrong. It's so wrong. But at least we did tricks when we were kids. Did we? Yeah. well I did

I didn't now they just they didn't even dress up half of them they just come around in a hoodie and ask for sweets Ollie won't let them in and he won't give them sweets if they're not dressed up

that was always his rule he's like you've made no effort you're getting no sweet goodbye he would literally say it and also sometimes like 15 year olds come over are you joking

like go to fucking Tesco and buy your own sweets what's your problem yeah okay right Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloween. What day is this going out on Thursday?

Yeah. Just before. It's the day before Halloween. It is. So enjoy whatever you're doing or not doing or just ignore it if you want. We don't care. Do what you like. It's nice for you.

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