40ish - Salmon Sperm, Sexual Fantasies and Bad Coats

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

This week on 40ish, we're diving into the wildest mix of topics. Nicole’s friend is getting salmon sperm injections, while Lauren can’t stop obsessing over the film The Substance. Meanwhile, one l...istener is dying of embarrassment after accidentally texting her sexual fantasies to the wrong guy and a husband is stuck in a dilemma: Should he tell his wife he hates her new coat, or keep the peace and stay quiet? Tune in for the chaos, the cringe, and, of course, the laughs! We would love to hear from you!  To share your dilemmas, rants, funny stories or general complaints about midlife please be in touch at: Email hello@40ish.co.uk Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 Go to ZOE.com to find out what ZOE Membership could do for you. You can use the exclusive code 40ISH10 to get 10% off membership. As a ZOE member, you’ll get an at-home test kit and personalized nutrition program to help you make smarter food choices that support your gut. Use 40ISH10 at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:01 ["The Night of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] I was gonna say something really rude, but what were you gonna say? What were you gonna say? by Zoe. In the cold light of the morning, horribly hungover, it was only then that I realized I have another mark in my face. Oh no! A very much married school gate dad that I see most afternoons at Pickup. I am totally mortified. We're now sticking the sperm that comes from a salmon into our eyelids. And don't rile a middle-aged woman. Don't rile them up.
Starting point is 00:01:49 No, that is the best advice over all of it. Don't poke the middle-aged bear. Hello everybody, welcome to Fortish. I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Lauren Mishcombe. This is the podcast that navigates the challenges and absurdities of Fortish something life and we solve all of your dilemmas. We do it all here. We try to. We sometimes solve them, sometimes we don't. We navigate all the weirdness of being middle-aged. Yes. All the mundaneness of being middle-aged. It's very mundane.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But very funny. Sometimes. It's so funny. Is it? It's funny. Is it though? Yeah, the mundane is funny. Come on. The mundane is funny sometimes. There's joy to be found in the mundane. Well, that's what this whole show is about. Yeah. So we do share the issues, rants and dilemmas that you very kindly and openly share with us. And we also divulge our own stories about the mess of midlife. Hello everybody, if you are enjoying this episode, could we please request that you share it with a friend who you think could do with a laugh?
Starting point is 00:02:56 We would be so grateful. Thank you so much. And also if you're really loving it, please rate and review. How are you this week? You know, I am good. You say that with hesitation. I have been a bit up and down. This isn't what I was going to talk about. But just before we go into that, I have been a bit up and down because I had the estrogen implant. Okay, we're talking about it. Here we are. I had the estrogen implant. The HRT implant. Have I said that on this show? No, I don't know. It's in your bottom.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It is in my bottom. And let me tell you something. That first month of that estrogen implant, I felt like I had been given like proper hardcore drugs. I felt high on life. I felt so shit for so long with the patches and the gels and the sprays and the pills and the rubbing and the stroking and the bleh and the inserting and all of it. Because I've had to do so much with all this stuff and I've still been hormonal. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:04:01 now I've injected the fucker. Okay. You know, it's worked. It's worked, but then at the weekend it hadn't worked. And I thought, oh my God, oh my God, I'm about to fall off a cliff again. I can't do this. I can't do this. And we went to, we've got to change our cars.
Starting point is 00:04:20 We went to this car showroom. This is so not what to do about anyway. I'm sitting in this car showroom and this guy, the car salesman, he was the worst salesman I have ever come across in my entire life. Every single piece of information about this car was like a fucking state secret. Anyway, I said, I looked over at Adam at one point and I said to him, I think I'm going to punch him in the face. And he said, he looked at me just sort of like, you know, closed his eyes and just sort of put his hand on me like, just, just stay calm, just breathe through it. And that was the point where I thought, fuck, I need to have my blood stun. I felt so rageful.
Starting point is 00:05:00 But was he just being a patronizing gift? Yes. Because you're a woman in a car show room. Yes. But, yes. But and I was also hormonal. Just before we dive into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer. We are not doctors or healthcare professionals. This is just a fun space where we share our opinions and thoughts.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Which could be totally wrong. So if there is an issue that you're seriously struggling with please contact a qualified expert. Okay, what's our first question today? Hello and help me is the title. Okay. So I went to this work event last week and ended up chatting and drinking with a seriously hot colleague named Mark. Different department, obviously, she says.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The chemistry between us was off the charts, but we kept it all very PG since our bosses and our colleagues were around. We had a long kiss outside when we left and we swapped numbers quickly before I rushed to get the last tube back to the babysitter. I'm divorced and I live with my daughter who's seven. I was on the tube, moderately drunk, thinking about the kiss and fantasizing about how the night could have gone down if we'd ended up in a hotel room. And then in a burst of confidence, read drunken stupidity. I sent Mark a very
Starting point is 00:06:28 explicit text describing my fantasy. Oh no, she doesn't know him. She doesn't know him. She doesn't know him. They've had one kiss. This is not good. I waited excitedly. Oh no, it's not good. No reply. Oh dear. Does she say what the fantasy was? Nardah. No. I think that's best. I was pretty disappointed. Okay. At 7am the next morning. Oh, it's awful. I got a message. Oh, thank God. I don't think this was meant for me. In the cold light of the morning, horribly hungover. It was only then that I realised I have another mark in my phone. Oh no!
Starting point is 00:07:08 A very much married school gate dad that I see most afternoons at pick up. I am totally mortified. How will I ever face the school gates again without wanting to disappear into the ground? Very very embarrassing. I'm so sorry. I think this is what you're going to have to do. You're going to have to get yourself into a head space where you are okay with it and you are not feeling any shame around it and you're a grown woman and you are allowed to have these thoughts and fantasies and feelings about how you are an adult. Okay. And you are going to have to go up to him from this centered grounded place and just front foot
Starting point is 00:07:51 the whole thing and say, I am so embarrassed. I'm so sorry. I sent you that message. Obviously it wasn't meant for you. Please delete it and let's never discuss it again. What else you can do? You can't hide forever about it. You're going to have to just, I was going to say suck it up, but that is just wrong. You're just going to, you're going to have to confront it. What if he doesn't believe her? What if he thinks that, you know, she's this single lady and she really likes him and she's texted him all about her sexual fantasies about him. Listen, she can't control what he thinks. The you can't do that anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:28 You're the only thing you can do is show up in the best way possible, which is just to be really open, really honest and hold absolutely no embarrassment or shame around it. OK, if someone had sent that accidentally to Adam, wouldn't he totally show you? And then, yes,'t he totally show you? And then wouldn't you find that quite hard to not then tell another mum at the school gates? Come on, be honest. I would find it impossible. Right. So do you know what I mean? And then that mum's going to tell another mum, right? And then another mum. Yeah. Well, then you're basically like the dirty bitch school playground. Aren't you? I'd like to think people are a little bit more open minded than that. Are they? Well, we don't know what she said. Well, we can
Starting point is 00:09:15 take a pretty good punt at what she said. Can't we? Come on. I mean, I'm not very creative, so maybe not. I don't know what she said. I don't know how raunchy it was. She said explicit Howard. That's good. Yeah, come on. What? She can't take it back. It's out there and the school gates are like the worst place for this shit. It festers and grows. Yes, exactly. And then it's like, well, oh, well, she probably did mean to send it to him. Stop the gossip. I feel so sorry. All she can do is speak to the husband and wife or text to the husband and wife. The same message, the same message. Yeah. Yeah. Like really cool about it. Yeah. Yeah. Because the cooler you are about it, the cooler you're going
Starting point is 00:10:03 to be. Just be like, listen, it's not you. Ha ha ha. It's this other Mark from my office. He's really hot and I'm really into him. Wasn't you? Sorry, you're a nice looking bloke, but didn't mean you. No, don't even say you're a nice looking bloke. Don't leave anything open to interpretation.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Just know. Didn't mean you. Wrong Mark. I think I would send a follow-up message that just said, sorry, full stop, wrong mark, full stop. And I'd leave it at that. That's what I would do. That is what I would do. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I mean, I would definitely send a follow-up message and it would probably take me about a day to figure out what I'm going to say. And then I would have to send it to you. And there'd be like a whole discussion over what was, you know, the right one. Can I just say if you did send me that I would want to see the original spicy message that you sent to the wrong mark. I would want to see that message. I'm just telling you I would. I would be like, what are you apologizing for? Let me see. I want all the data.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You have to have all information, Lauren, information. Sorry, information. You have to have all the information, otherwise you can't advise her accordingly. No, precisely. Well, I've never done this and I'm not sending explicit messages to my husband. Well, that's okay if it's your own husband. No, but if you then send it to the wrong Adam. Oh, in your case, that could be particularly difficult
Starting point is 00:11:25 because you do have a very good friend also called Adam. I do. That could be embarrassing. Be horrendous. It would be horrendous. And it would never happen. And I have another friend Adam, who's actually a very good friend of my husband's and I see him at the gym every day. So that would be even worse. Yeah, That would be really bad. Don't do it. Why are you putting this on me? I have never done this. I'm not going to do this. Okay. I've never done it either. Have you never done it? Do you ever send explicit messages to Ollie? I mean, sometimes I send messages about like, please could you pick up some drain unblocker? But that's about it. That's not an explicit message. Well, I tell him
Starting point is 00:12:02 explicitly please. And you unblock the drain and I'll shower. You know, I have to be so explicit with Adam over those sorts of things, because he always seems to pick up the wrong thing. You know? So it's like, no, yeah, I have to give proper, yeah. Explicit info, but not of the like... Sexual kind.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's the one. I was gonna say something really rude then. What were you gonna say? What were you gonna say? I don't know. Something about like throbbing cocks. But I just decided not to because when that woman said that, that was the vibe I got from her message. The throbbing cock is going to replay on Dicton. I just felt like that was definitely in the message. I don't know why. I just felt like it was. I am like embarrassed. Don't you feel like that was definitely in the message. I don't know why. I just felt like it was.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I am like embarrassed. Don't you feel like that was in her message? I do. Like that is multifacade. I'm to know. Starring Kaylee Cuoco and Chris Messina. The only investigating I'm doing these days is who shit their pants. Killer messaged you yesterday? This is so dangerous. I got to get out of this.
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Starting point is 00:14:37 I know exactly what she's talking about. So do I. And someone else was talking to me about that the other day. I wrote back, now there's a sentence. Yes. It's a salmon sperm facial. In fact, I've just remembered who was talking to me about it. We went for a dinner with the podcast studio podcasters, our producer put together a dinner last week. Can I just say that I was sat opposite you
Starting point is 00:15:04 and either side of you were two men. So how the salmon sperm facial thing has come up at that dinner is that's not possible. Well, Nicole, one of those men to my right, yeah, was asking about all the self care practices that you and I have tried on self care club, other podcast, and then told me I've tried on self care club, other podcast and then told me that he had salmon sperm injections. And I was like, I completely know what you're talking about because we actually reported on them in his face, in his face. I was like, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Yeah. He said, I'm 31. I was like, darling, you're too young for Botox or salmon sperm. Like you're young.
Starting point is 00:15:45 You look young. You don't need it. But he was already having them. Yeah. So your friend's having it too. Well, she's a woman and she is 47. Yeah. And she is having her final salmon sperm. And how is she feeling about the salmon sperm in her face. She thinks that one side has dropped and one side has lifted. What? And I have to say, she would be right. She is right. She is right. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Okay, I don't know if anyone's. Although the last few times I've seen her, she does look so amazing and fresh and like, she looks great. This is like the substance. This is like the substance. Be very careful. I don't want her to turn into monstrosity. Demi Moore film. Yeah. I'm talking about the Demi Moore film. Is she injecting salmon sperm into her face? It's not salmon spam, but there's a lot of injections and it does definitely does stuff to the face.
Starting point is 00:16:40 But I'm not talking about the substance again because you don't stop with it. And I actually don't fucking care. Okay. So just stop talking about it because I haven't seen it. If a tit starts growing out of her face, she's got a problem. I'm just saying. You think I need to tell her that? I think she'll know. I mean, what the fuck? I'm just saying, like when she sent this to me, I just thought, am I now at the age where that is like a totally normal thing for my friends to be doing? To be sticking, can we just unpick this for a minute?
Starting point is 00:17:13 We're now sticking the sperm that comes from a salmon into our eyelids. No, into our eye bags. Eye bags. Oh, oh God. That's what we're doing now. This is the world we live in. I'm not doing, I'm not. And let me tell you something,
Starting point is 00:17:28 she ain't going into London to do it, she's doing it in Finchley. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Okay, what's our next question? Our final question of the show. Hi ladies, enjoying your show. I'm a man, age 42, with an issue. Oh, oh, hi. Hi. You said it like, can I just say the hi was like a flirty hi. Was it?
Starting point is 00:18:00 As if he was hot. You don't know if he's hot. I don't even know his name. I know, but you were just like hi. I don't know anything about him apart from the fact that he's married because he is about to tell us about his wife. But can I just say that also something you wouldn't expect from Lauren is that she is very flirtatious. Shut up! You are. Shut up! I like that about you. I think it's cute and playful and fun. I'm very happily married.
Starting point is 00:18:24 No one has said that you are not, but you are a flirt. I think it's cute and playful and fun. I'm very happy. And a bit naughty. I'm very happily married. No one has said that you are not, but you are a flirt. I do like a bit of a flirt. Yeah. It's true. Here's the question. You ready? My wife was given some birthday money by her parents. Nice.
Starting point is 00:18:40 She went out last week and spent it all. And it was a couple of hundred quid, on a white coat with a belt from a high-end store called Kos. She thinks it looks fantastic, when in fact, it makes her look like a middle-aged jujitsu instructor. Here is my dilemma. Do I tell her the truth and risk becoming a mean guy who crushes her fashion dreams? Or do I just say nothing and let her go around in it when we're together whilst feeling like
Starting point is 00:19:10 the Mr. Miyagi to her karate kid? I feel like we've had an email like this before. Do you? Yeah, we have. But it was a wife asking about the husband. Something to do with hats. Anyway, I thought this was going in a different direction. I thought it was going to be that she spent all the money on the coat and he was pissed
Starting point is 00:19:32 off that she'd spent all of the birthday money on one item. No, no, he just thinks the coat is shit. Do you know what it's giving me? I haven't obviously seen the coat. I bet the coat's fabulous. Yeah, but it's giving me Olivia Pope vibes. Yeah. Scandal. I was thinking more Nicole Kidman in, was it the undoing? Oh yeah. That kind of vibe. I reckon that's what she was going for. It's obviously because it's cos, so cos is obviously sometimes quite, isn't it shapeless?z. Like cosplay. Because you know, because you keep saying cos. I don't think it is cos. I think it's coz.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Coz. Now I could be wrong. Like cosplay. What's cosplay? Like when you dress up. Never heard that term. Cosplay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It's like a sex thing. When you dress up. Oh, never heard that term. Okay. You obviously don't do it. I'm just saying. I don't actually, no. Oh, never heard that. Okay. You obviously don't do it. I don't actually. No, I'm okay with it. I was thinking more like cosmic. Cosmic. Yeah. I'm sure you're
Starting point is 00:20:33 right. But the style of that shop is quite boxy. It's not very fitted. I don't ever shop in Cos. Okay. It's quite loose and boxy. The general vibe of it. Yeah. It's like high street the row, the row. No one can afford the row. You're saying things I don't understand. Like I feel like you've got into a different language. What are you doing? The row, cosplay. The row is the designer brand that the Olsen twins own. Mary Kate and Ashley or the other one. Why do they do boxy things? Because they're minuscule. Yeah, they are like the size of a tiny garden gnome, but their brand is so expensive. So Coz, excuse me, that's my grumbling stomach. Coz, I made you a
Starting point is 00:21:13 sandwich. I know it's the high street version of that. So it's very kind of classic boxy stuff. So I reckon it's a boxy coat. It's a boxy coat, which is why it looks like a karate top. You just said a lot of things. One second. Yeah. Sorry. The Olsen twins have a range. A designer brand called The Row. Is this their diffusion range?
Starting point is 00:21:33 No, no, but it's nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with it, but it's a similar vibe is all I'm saying. I'm just giving you context. There was no context because no one that's listening to this has ever heard of that label. They totally have. They haven't. Okay. It's very- We want to hear who's heard of that label. What's the row? The row. I like to think I'm in the no. You've seen it, but you've looked at the price of a leather jacket and gone like in your dreams, mate. Because it's crazy. It's cuckoo crazy carpet madness prices.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It's mad. I feel like you've eaten a really weird dictionary, but kind of doesn't really make sense. And sometimes it slips into a different language that we've never heard. The listeners know what I'm talking about. You don't know the brand cause I am telling you. I do. Well, no, I know how to pronounce it. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But you don't shop there. But you don't shop there. Are you surprised that I don't shop there? No, because you don't do box. But you don't shop there. Are you surprised that I don't shop there? No, because you don't do boxy wide silhouette. Because I look awful. Right. But some people like that. And I think that is what I'm guessing that is the vibe of the coat.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He said with a belt. Yeah, it's a white coat with a belt. So I'm thinking like a- How boxy can it be with a belt? With a belt would be that it's nipped in at the waist. But like a karate jacket. You know how they have a belt to show what belt you are. I understand where he's going with this. I'm figuring that the fabric is completely different
Starting point is 00:22:52 to a karate coat. Yeah, but it's probably, I'm guessing it's thick, crossover, wide arms, boxy with a belt. And he doesn't like it. boxy with a belt. I'm just looking. He doesn't like it. Who cares? Can we just say, do we have to care if he likes it or not? If I come home with something, my husband often says, uh, where do you think you're wearing that to? Does he? Yeah. What does he mean by that? As in like, I like quite, uh, I can go for like the odd elaborate piece. Okay. So he doesn't mean it. I do like quite a flamboyant bits and pieces. So what he means is you look mental. Is that what he's trying to say? It's just, cause when you say where are you going? Where do you think you're going in that? That's like your dad when you wear
Starting point is 00:23:39 a skirt that's too short, but that's not what he's saying. Like you look mental. Can you go and change into like a normal piece of clothing? Is that what he means? Like sometimes he'll be like, I can't even remember what I was wearing, but I put it on and we were going to a party and he's like, you can't wear that. And I'm like, well, why not? He's like, because you, because you're going to upstage the host. I'm like, so? Oh, controversial. Well, I don't think, I don't think you ever upstage the host or the hostess.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I just don't think you do. It just, that's not a thing. This is not boxy. This is all very fitted. Oh, it is boxy. It's a very boxy brand. Oh, it is. That's boxy. Yes. Very, very boxy brand. Yeah, it is. You're never wrong about these things. I find it so annoying. Can we just go back to the premise of should he shut his mouth or should he speak his mind? I've got to be honest. Yeah. Why is it an issue if he likes the coat or doesn't like the coat? She likes the coat.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Because he feels like she looks like a toss pot in it and he doesn't and when he goes around with her he's embarrassed of the coat. Well he needs to get over it and also like when I for fashion advice, I very rarely go to my husband. Okay, if you spent your birthday money on a coat and Adam thought it was awful, ridiculous, you look like the karate kid, A, would he say something? B, would he shut up? A, he would say something. B, I wouldn't care. Okay. You?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yes, Ollie would definitely say, oh my God, I hate that coat. And I would feel a small, a little hurt inside because I obviously would love the coat, but I would still wear the coat. But wouldn't you trust your judgment over his on the fashion choice? I'm the one wearing it. That's what I'm saying. I mean, ironically and weirdly, over the 28 years of our relationship, he has often said to me, I always like what you wear, but you have very dodgy taste in coats. He has said that to me numerous times. He's like, you seem to have this block, this like mind fart. He always says you have this like mind fart when it comes to coats and you always choose weird coats that I don't like.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I completely disagree with your husband. Do you? I mean, I do have an eclectic selection of coats. But I think your coats totally match your style. I agree. Some of them are a bit classic. Some of them are really fun. I agree. I agree. So I think he needs to just pipe down quite frankly. Some of them are a bit classic, some of them are really fun. I agree. I agree. So I think he needs to just pipe down.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's okay. Quite frankly. You know what? It's alright because I'll still choose which coats I wear and I'll still wear them. So I think I'm going to say to this husband, if you really can't zip it, if you really, really can't zip it, then just say to her, you know what? I don't love the coat. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Excuse me. Yeah. What makes him the fashion police? Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean he's right about it. Well saying he's right, but he's not asking if he's right. He's asking should he say something? I mean, I think with a married couple, does it really matter? Does it really? Does it really? No, actually, I'm going to take that back. I have some friends that if their husband
Starting point is 00:26:40 doesn't like something, they won't wear it. Really? Yeah. Which I find really sweet. But I just don't function that way. But I find it really, really sweet that their opinion. And when I was in the hairdressing game, like sometimes the husbands would come in and they would tell me what they wanted me to do with their wives hair, which I found really weird and really controlling. That's really controlling.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But often they would say, Oh, my husband didn't like it that length last time. So can we, can we change it? Okay. And be like, well, it's not on your husband's head. It's on your head. What do you think? There are a few things I have that I know Ollie really doesn't like. So if we were going out on a date together, the two of us, I deliberately would not wear those things because I'd be like, I know you don't like it. So I'm not going to wear that. And then you've got to sit and look at me in it all night if you really don't like it. But if we were going out to a party or with other people, I would wear it. Same. So, or sometimes I wear something that I know that he really
Starting point is 00:27:35 likes. That's what I mean. And the same with him. Adam had a pair of shoes. Oh, not the backless white shoes, please. Yes. Oh my God. They're just in those fucking backless white canvas shoes. They're just, I just don't know what happened there. He went to bring the, I don't either. They got that really expensive make tiger. They're like some Japanese make. Yeah. I don't know, but they just sound awful. They are awful. They are so awful. So he was like, where are my back, my white backlash shoes? I said, where are those shoes awful. So he was like, where are my white, backless shoes? I said, where are those shoes? Those shoes, those shoes where we were packing on holiday. I'm like, what shoes? Because you know the ones you hate. So I said to him, if you bring,
Starting point is 00:28:14 if you want to have sex on holiday, please don't click this, Becca. I suggest you don't bring those shoes. The thing is he wouldn't be wearing the shoes whilst having sex. He didn't bring them. He didn't bring them. Okay, good. But also, I'm assuming he doesn't keep his shoes on when you have sex. No, but I'd have to look at them in the run up of the day. And that's just off-putting. They're enough to put you off. They are so awful. Okay, but that is not any better than this husband mentioning that he doesn't like his wife's coat. You know what I mean? If you're allowed to slag off Adam's shoes. You are right. You are absolutely right. And I've given this guy such a hard time. I really have.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I'm happy to do with him. He's not the fashion police. And here I am doing it to my husband. You are right. I am a hypocrite. Imagine if he messaged us and said, I cannot have sex with my wife if she's wearing this fucking jujitsu outfit to dinner. like I will have to look at her in the car in that coat. It puts me off her. I don't want to touch her. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:29:10 No, you, you are embellishing now. I never said it puts me off him. I told her when we left the house, if you were that coat, we're not having sex tonight. Like, you know, come on now. Right. It was mean. Okay. It was mean.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I do hate those shoes. Yeah. I hate them. They sound absolutely awful. I'm going to show you them when we go home. Please don't. No, I am. I'll recoil in horror. Okay. This is my answer to this gentleman. Hi. Hi. Hi. I think if you want to be a nice husband, a loving, kind, sweet husband, just don't mention the coat. You know, like when your mum says if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. Say nothing. Just say nothing. What if she asks, do you love my new coat? What do you think of my new coat? I would just nod and smile. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Just that. If you can't hold it back, then just say something like, I don't love it,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but I'm really glad that you're so happy with it. And just leave it at that. Because what does it matter? Sure. She's a lovely wife. So just let her enjoy her coat. You know, it's not that deep. It's just a coat. Sure. But you can be wearing it in the house. She'd just be wearing it to travel from one place to the next. Yeah. Soon it will be summer and you won't see it. Just let it go, dude. There's worse things. And don't rile a middle-aged woman. Don't rile them up. No, that's that. That is the best advice over all of it. Don't poke the middle-aged bear because it don't end well for you. So that is our show or 40ish. We should be back next week with a brand new episode. We are back tomorrow in our subscription, which is over at Apple podcast. So please come over
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