40ish - Savage Brides, Social Faux Pas & Jeggings

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Today on 40ish: Nicole is still in wardrobe crisis. She’s retreated back to skinny jeans and some decidedly mumsy leather trousers (absolutely do not say the word jeggings). Meanwhile, she’s attempting—against all odds—to convince Lauren to sign up for a 26-mile charity walk. (Spoiler: the chances are slim)  as Lauren is far too busy debating whether it’s socially acceptable to join in a TikTok dance with a group of 12-year-olds. Elsewhere, a listener writes in with an excruciating dilemma after finding herself Maid of Honour to a spectacularly rude bride, and another woman shares a mortifying café mix-up when she confidently shares a coffee with a total stranger. It’s midlife confusion, second-hand embarrassment, and questionable fashion choices—business as usual. Get in touch! Email [e-mail] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 This episode is sponsored by London Nootropics Get 20% off at LondonNootropics.com with the code 40ISH Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to 40ish. I'm Nicole Gippman And I'm Lauren Mishkon. This is the podcast Where we tackle the chaos of 40-something life diving into midlife with rants and dilemmas and problems and issues and small celebrations and she's taking the mickey because i said it last week it rolled off my tongue you found it completely hilarious that i really did yeah i really did basically just the mess of navigating midlife i think we should celebrate your earrings do you want to celebrate them oh oh there's a whole thing they are asymmetrical i mean they are very very very much very well they are very very

fabulous with a capital F. Thanks. They're very, they're a lot for a Monday morning. They are. But, but, but they, and you've got a full face of makeup on. Full face. Yeah.

Yeah. And, and very glamorous earrings and a scarf if you're not watching on Spotify and YouTube, which was coming next. I say it's more of a shawl. A shawl. It's a cowboy themed shawl. It's got horses on it and things. To be fair.

It sounds disgusting. It's very nice. She looks very nice. I was actually, what's with the earrings? Let's talk about the earrings. Well, to be. perfectly frank with you. Can you see them on the screen? They're beautiful. Thank you. I was having a try on this morning and I hit of a dress and I had bought these earrings to go with a dress. What dress were you trying on?

A dress for the party. Any part, your party? Right. What dress were you trying on? Both dresses. Again. Again. Just to check. Oh, we're still not sure. No. And I bought these earrings to go with one of the dresses a long time ago. Yeah. And then I just kept them on because why not? Why not? Why have you got to wait for a party or for your son to get them to miss with to wear a fabulous earring? Just wear the earrings on a Monday morning to the studio. Yeah. That is a really good question because obviously I bought them about a year ago.

Just kept them in the jewellery box. I really like those earrings. Thanks. What's going on with the dress because you're still undecided? So basically what happened if you didn't listen to last week's show? Oh, we had a good chuckle about. Lauren's change of dress. She's got her son's per mitzvah in a week and five days.

Something like that. Yep, one week, five days. And she decided last week to change the dress that she was wearing because she found an old dress in her wardrobe that she's never worn and she put it on and she liked it. And so it's been a thing. It's been a whole thing. And then last week we talked a lot about whether she was wearing a bra. She wasn't going to wear a bra.

She wasn't going to wear a knickers, she is now. She wasn't going to wear shoes. I know I'm not joking. Go and listen to the episode. She is now. Someone told me they didn't wear knickers to their own wedding. this week. I am still debating just no one to wear no, I was like, no I will wear. It's okay because I've now found a bra and knickers and

shoes. Can I just say, I'm going to say one thing and you're going to wear knickers. When they put you on the chair. Oh yeah, but it's long. It doesn't matter. What if? What if? What if some little, like the 13 year olds get a very unfortunate view.

Just put some knickers on. Okay, no you're right. That could scar them for life. Just put some knickers. That could cause them like a whole adulthood of sexual dysfunction. Some knickers on. I mean, if there's any title that is going to come up in this show, it's going to be put the knickers on. Can you imagine that? If these little boys are like in therapy when they're 50 and they're like, what is the source of your sexual dysfunction? They're like, I was once at a Bermitza when I was 12, 13 and the mother of the Bermitsfa boy went up on a chair and she had no knickers on and I've never been okay since.

You're right. You're right. No one needs that. You don't need it. It's all right. I found knickers. I found knickers in my knicker drawer. Oh.

It's amazing. And you found a bra. I found a bra in my knicker and bra drawer. So I feel like things are coming together now. I think it's fine. I think it's fine. It's all going to be fine. It is going to be fabulous.

Great. Your outfit is causing much more drama than my outfit. And I'm really, really, really trying not to bring it over to you, but I can't stop myself. I don't mind because I feel okay now. Yeah, but it feels completely self-indulged because it's actually not my party. It's fine. I have bought so many dresses.

Thank you for the effort that you've put in. Well, you know. To wanting to look nice. Because that's very sweet. Also, I haven't been to a party like this for a long time. I went through my phase of going to all of these things every weekend. I haven't been to one for ages. So I'm really looking forward to it.

Secondly, it's always so nice when it's a really close friend. Yeah, isn't it? It makes it much more fun and much more special. And you want to go there and feel good and look good and everything else. And I didn't want to wear something old. I don't know if it's the dresses. I don't know if it's me. I don't know what is going on.

But I have ordered five dresses. They've all gone back. One was a top. I thought it was a dress. I thought that was really going to be the answer. One was a top instead of a dress. How short did you think the dress was? No, no. No.

It was this black wrapar out. It was just gorgeous top, but they'd paired it with like a midi pencil skirt. And I just thought it was a dress. Oh, but it was just the top. And then I went back and you know when you get that package and it comes in and you can feel it already. And it's like, no, this is not going to. I don't even need to open it to know. This is not going to work because this feels shit.

Yes. Yeah. So I opened it and it was about that big. Right. Well, it was a top. Yeah. Okay. It's a no then.

No, it had to go back. And then I thought, well, I don't have a black pencil skirt. And have I got the head to try and find a black pencil skirt? No. Do they even make black pencil skirts? I don't know. Maybe in like secretary dress-up shops. Not in real life.

You and I, we often twin. Last week, we both came in a white, furry little julee thing. And today we both turned up in skinny jeans. Yeah, but that is. is because we've been talking about skinny jeans a lot. In fact, we have been talking about jeans a lot on this show. Where are we with jeans? Yeah. We're back. We're back to where we began. Someone came up to me in the gym the other day and said, where are we with jeans? I'm like, well, where are we? She's like, I don't know. I'm like, well, who knows? Who knows where we are

where we are? Well, we're here. We are back to the skinnies. We are. That's where we are. And we're both wearing them. And I feel like this makes the most sense. I feel really comfortable. Also, I actually quite like myself in the skinny gene. Yeah. Why not? I'm really. I'm I'm following the rules of the new skinny gene. I've got a bigger, boxier top thing on. Yeah. Yeah. Balancing it out.

And not a ballet pump. No. Right. No. Although it's January so ballet pump would be. Well, you're in a loafer. I am. But they're fur lined.

Doesn't matter. You were going to say that. You still. But that's so cozy. You don't even have to speak to me anymore. I know what you're going to say. Where are we with jeans? You said they weren't comfortable.

Oh, you know what? I was going to say, you're going to love this. You know how we twin now with what we wear? I mean, in our own way, we're usually twin. Guess who I've also started twinning with. Not Alana on the paddle court. Yeah. But presumably it's paddle outfits.

Do you wear the same colour leggings? Today we were in the same colour top. Oh, look, we're in the same colour top. And I said, oh, you know, we're starting to morph when you spend a load of time with someone. Yeah, it does happen. And then you start to wear the same things. think Alana and I would ever accidentally twin?

Could you see that happening? I'm just saying, could you see us meeting one day by accident and then wearing the same thing? Could it happen? Can I just say, right? If Alana met you, she would have absolutely no issue with you whatsoever. No. I feel like she would get a very salty version of Loramish, God.

And I don't think that's very fair. She won't get a salty version, but I don't know anything about her other than the fact that she plays paddle. I'm sure she is a three-dimensional person. with other facets to her life and lifestyle, but I don't know of them. So I would find it hard. Why don't you ask every now and then?

I would find it hard to find... Why don't you show some fucking interest? I'd find it hard to share common ground with her because I can't talk to her about paddle. I could talk to her about you, but that's about it. It's okay. We're not due to meet anytime soon, are we? No.

No. So it's fine. Anything else you want to say about the skinny gene? I don't know how I feel about them. You said they're not comfy. Well, they are kind of on any jeans comfy. Oh, okay. Because I was going to...

In a post-COVID world, I just can't cope with jeans. I was going to recommend the Sienna, as in Sienna Miller, super soft, that is sold an M&S. And then you started going on, no, it's a checking. I don't do a checking. It's actually... Checkings. I'm sorry. I actually find that quite offensive.

I didn't say, I did not say, no, that's it, Jekin. I said, in my very normal toned voice, I said, excuse me, we're then moving into Jegin territory. Do you think I would move into Jegging territory? What? That is a slur. I actually do. That is a slough. My character.

I think, gun to my head, if someone said to me, who is more likely to wear, who is going to wear a Jigin sooner, you or Lauren? I would say, Lauren. I think everyone listening is nodding. No, I just say they are not a jegging. They're a proper gene. They're just in a very comfy material with a lot of stretch. That's all. They're not a jegging.

I mean, I say that and I bought someone I actually don't like them on me, but not because they're a jogging. They're funny shape. Oh, but they're all right for me. I don't know what. They're not good enough for you, but they're okay for me. It's the length. They're not a good length on me. They're too long, too short, too what?

A bit too long. Yeah. Can't you just roll them up. No, they look really weird when you roll them up. Because they're a skinny gene. Right, so hold on. So if Sienna Miller is making a skinny gene, I think we're okay with a skinny gene.

My only reservation is that she's making them for M&S. She makes a lot of shit for MNS, though. Does she make anything for MNS? Well, she'll just put her name to it. Let's talk about the M&S trousers have got now that we're on MNS. What MNS trousers you've got? The... the pleather

M&S trances that you kind of forced me to buy that you sort of led me down the garden park and then your mother and all got a pair yeah yeah and I got a pair and I sent mine back yeah you sent yours back you absolutely ditched me at the party I did which I wasn't

they weren't fabulous you know what I mean they're not fabulous they were fine they are so fine with a capital F-I-N-E I can't even tell you how fine they are why were they such a sellout to the point we actually wore them to a funeral yesterday. Wow. Yeah, I know. That is sexy. That is sexy by the graveside. They're not sexy at all. That is some burial she. They're not sexy at all. At all. I couldn't look

I couldn't look any less sexy in these trousers. I just couldn't. I look like, I look like, you know what I look like? Yeah, I look like. I do. What? What are you going to say? You look like someone who who's going to have a gin and tonic and then go and play bridge. No. That vibe. I wasn't going to say that. What were you going to say? I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to say, I look like a mother of two teenagers.

Okay. Do with that what you will. I look, I look so mumsy in these challenges. Oh, we're back to mumsy? Are we back to the mumsy? That is your state of mind. That's why you can't put on a dress. That's why you can't wear a slit.

That's why you're funny about juggings. It's your state of mine. You don't want to identify as a mum of teenagers. I do. You do? I absolutely do. I love my teenage girls. I just don't want to be mumsy in the process.

Also, that's not why I don't relate to Jiggins. That's just not. Okay. But you're right. I am in a mumsy state of mind. We're not back to mumsy. We never left mumsy. Okay.

It brings me beautifully into my most 40-ish moment. We just had about 10. Well, I know, but it really did hit me in the face. I am now the mother of only teenagers and adults. My son turned 13 yesterday. I've got no children. I've got two teens and an adult. Wow, big moment.

Anyway, he had... That is a big moment. For you, it's a big moment. But also, are we going to stop calling your very strapping young men in your lives, the children? Never, even when they're six. They're your... No, they're not children. So, the teenager, the new teenager, had a party at my house.

I did know, he did ask and it was allowed. He had 10 kids, boys and girls, sleeping over on Friday night. You're very good to have that. Yeah, I was very good to have that and ordered them all dinner and let them basically take over my whole little room. Rans, like your house, basically, yeah. They were very well behaved, actually. they were very good boys and girls. And we decided to go out for dinner for a few hours

because that seemed the most sensible and safest thing to do because otherwise we were going to have to sit in our bedroom or the kitchen. No one wants that. So I went in to say to them, we're going out for a couple of hours. My phone's on, be good, don't put the hob on or light any candles

or do anything naughty. And they were all sitting in a circle playing this game. Spin the bottle? No, it wasn't spend the bottle. And they were like, Lauren, come and join the game. I was like, well, I am going out. I'll join for two minutes. They said, you have to say your name, your pronouns,

what color boxer shorts are your favourite, and your employment status? And I thought, well, you're all 12. Aren't you all unemployed? So I played the game with them for a bit, but I didn't realize that when you say the pronoun bit, I said, well, I'm she-her, but then when they all played,

they were like, I'm watermelon, strawberry. Okay, there's the actual game. Yeah, that's the proper game. You know, that was the proper game. And then later on when we got back from the dinner I went in to check on them all and the girls You know what was really happening? What?

They were actually playing Spin the Bottle No, no, they were not. They made up some shit game. Quick, stop snogging. And play this. When I came in, three of the girls had a phone on the mantel piece and they were dancing.

They were like practicing a dance. But you've seen my girls do this a lot, haven't you? And they said Lauren, come and do this TikTok dance with us. I have never. Did you do it? I didn't. On TikTok, it probably is. Did you do it?

No, I did not do it because I'm a middle-aged woman and I have no business. TikTok dancing with a group of 12-year-old girl and felt so ancient. Cross my mind. I'm not going to lie. Boating for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. What? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea.

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It's quite convoluted. Do you have a good brain on? No. Okay. Go on, you read it and I'll do my best to concentrate. Well, you do the disclaimer and then I'll read it. Before we jump into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer. We're not doctors or healthcare professionals.

If there is something that you are seriously struggling with, please contact a qualified expert. I am 48 and I've asked to be made of honour for my friend of 30 years already hideous. Oh. Now imagine choosing that dress. Well, do you get to choose the dress? This is the whole point. Okay.

Oh. It's so unfair to do that. She's always been single. She's been to all of our weddings and birthdays, etc. She's a lovely person, but she is a drinker. And she's had lots of fallings out with people and has said some awful things. I have never been on the receiving end of this myself. Okay.

Three of us and three younger women have been asked to be bridesmaids. She's really excited. We're very happy that she's found her person. He's a great guy. We all really like him. Okay. I'm with you so far. We all shared ideas for dresses and she gave them a yay or nay on our WhatsApp group.

The bridesmaids also have a chat group separate to her to plan the hen, etc. We agreed on the other chat to order all the dresses and to take the stress away from the bride because she's got so much other stuff going on. I went ahead and ordered various sizes of the same dresses for us all to try on at her house at a date that she had requested. I also threw in a wild card because I liked the look of it. We are paying for the dresses ourselves. I was just about to ask who's paying for the dress.

That makes a big difference. That night we ordered about £1,000 worth of dresses between us all. We then messaged her. Surprise, we've sorted this all out. We're really looking forward to the dress trying on. she went absolutely mental at us, claiming that we're trying to take over the organisation of her wedding, how dare we do this, who do we think we are, fuck this, etc.

And cancelled the try-on day. Then she demanded a list of the dresses that we'd ordered. It was exactly the same list that we had already sent her. This has really upset me and I feel emotionally drained. It was really bad and really shocking. But knowing how she can be, we sent some messages and said no one's trying to take over your wedding, we're just trying to help. She hasn't apologised. She's still telling me that she deserves an apology for us doing this to her. I am beyond

fed up with the situation. I feel like I don't want to be a bridesmaid or her maid of honour anymore. I don't know what to do. That is such a dilemma. Yeah, a true dilemma. What I don't understand is what exactly is. What exactly is, is she so upset about? If they had chosen and bought all these dresses and they were just random dresses that she hadn't okayed, then I really would understand how cross she is. But if she's already said on the WhatsApp, yes, they look nice. Why not just say, okay, try them on and if we don't like them, you can send them back?

Why throw your toys out the pram? Well, it sounds like she's a bit of a live wire anyway. Yeah. So she can be a bit volatile. Yeah. someone's going to have to back down here whether it's the bridesmaids or it's her and maybe maybe if they could say to her

look we understand you're upset we are sorry we didn't mean to upset you or to overstep or anything please can we just put this behind us let's all look at the dresses together and try them on try that but she's also going to have to meet them halfway and say you know what I know you didn't mean to upset me and I'm sorry that I kicked it off but it doesn't sound like she's going to do that.

It really doesn't. And also this woman has just had it. And the thing is, when you're a bridesmaid or a maid of honour, it takes a lot of time and it can really take over your life for a period of time. So if you're going to do that for somebody and you're going to give of yourself to be part of their big moment in life, you have to do it with a full heart. You can't do that begrudgingly or resentfully. It's not going to work.

So I was really young when I got married. So I kind of did dick. My bridesmaids were all adults and they all wore the same dress and I chose the dress. But I think if it was now, I think I would just pick a colour and be like,

can you just go and buy a navy dress or whatever? I don't think at our age you can do that. My sister was a maid of honour a few years ago for my friend who also got married later in life. And my sister was, how many years ago? So she was probably 49 at the time.

Yeah. And my friend did exactly. that she's like this is the palette yeah just get whatever you're happy in I just want you to feel good and and that was like the end of it but it wasn't like my sister was going to pick some sexy backless you know she wasn't going to she was always going to pick an appropriate dress and and that and that worked and also it really makes a difference who's paying for the dress so my bridesmaids we paid for them and they were handmade and they came to the fittings and everything else so I think it's different It's different. It's different when you're getting married and you're much younger.

Yeah. And when the bridesmaids are much younger. Yeah. And you're paying for it. When you're a fully grown adult, you cannot tell somebody else what to wear. You just can't. I agree. I've been a maid of honor twice. And both times they paid for the dress and they chose the dress. Yeah. But I mean, the first time it was at Lawrence and I was, how old was she, she got married, 23. So I must have been 21. Yeah, it was 21. Yeah. It was very. young. Yeah. And then the other time was 18, 19 years ago. Yeah. So.

Yeah. And also, I feel like I wore a sari as a bridesmaid once. And I loved it. And of course, I didn't choose it and I didn't pay for it. I'd loved wearing it. I'd love to wear a sari. But I think you just behave yourself because you've been asked. So you do it with a good heart and in good grace. And if you don't want to do it, you just say no. But also, I have a really big problem with someone coming at me and screaming at me. Like I find those

things very hard to let go of. It immensely hard. Especially if I'm not getting an apology. If they then come to me and say, I am so sorry, I should not have spoken to you that way. Then we can have a conversation. Yeah. But it's so disrespectful. Do you think this woman's done anything wrong

in ordering the dresses? Because I can't see, I'm looking at it as like, is it that she took control or she's trying to take over? I'm just trying to understand what the bride's beef is here because I can't see what this woman's done wrong. Well, intention is everything, isn't it? And her intention was good. Yeah. And you'd like to think that they've been friends for 30 years that the bride would know that her intention was pure and good

and that could get over herself. But she's not doing that. And you can't control how somebody else is going to react and how somebody else is going to take accountability or lack of it. So she's going to have to find a route that works for her. The bridesmaid, I mean, the maid of honour. I mean, the maid of honour. I would have a big problem being someone's made of honour when I'd just been spoken to like that. I mean, but that's friendship ending if she pulls out. You know? There's no coming back from that, really.

Not really. No. That's a tricky one. What would you do? I think I would try and have a reasonable conversation outside of these WhatsApp groups and just say, listen, I ordered the dresses to try and take a bit of pressure off you

because you've got so much to do. I don't really understand what you're so angry about, but I can't be screamed at like that. I think, asked to meet her for a coffee just for two of them and try and have a reasonable conversation and see how that goes. Yeah. And if she is still abusive, I would say, look, you know, I think it's probably better if I bow out.

But I think it's also really appropriate and okay to say I really didn't appreciate being spoken to like that. Well, she's spoken to all of them like that. Yeah, but she doesn't need to worry about everyone else can worry about themselves. She just needs to worry about herself right now. I'm sorry, I really, I can't see what she's done wrong here. Maybe I'm missing something.

No, no, I don't think she has done something wrong, but, you know, perspective is everything. The bride might have been very stressed about something. You don't know, and we don't have the history of things. No. There's so much that we don't know. And also, we've only got her perspective. The bride might have a completely different story.

True, very true, very true. Well, I'm sorry, and I hope that you sort it out. But I would definitely meet her for a coffee and have a reasonable one-on-one conversation. Good idea. Had any meltdowns last week? Sounds like you're having a whole wardrobe crisis. I don't actually have one for today. Sorry.

Sorry. I just don't. I was trying to think of all the... I mean, just don't. I'm just letting the universe wash over me now. I've been in a high state of stress for a long time and I'm done with that now. So I don't want any meltdowns today. Can I not have a meltdown today?

Yes. Thanks. You can. But I would like to pick up on something that you were talking about before we hit record. Sure. You said, I'm just in a state of whatever happens happens. I said, oh, you're in a state of surrender, as Gabby Bernstein would call it. You said, yeah, just like, just let it all wash over me like you just said.

You said, you know, it's like PMT is strange now. It's changed. It's like this is before, what did you say? Normally, I'm very irritable and snappy. P and tense. Yeah. For your period. Yeah.

For the tension part. Yeah. Even though they PMS it in America. Yeah. But I don't feel like that. I feel the opposite of that. I said to you, I feel like my period is coming, but I feel the opposite of PMS. I feel very calm all of a sudden.

And then I said, have you got your period? And you said, you said, this PMT is just just taking a different, it's just different this time. Yeah. Have you got your period? You said, no. No. So I don't know if this is PMS, PMT. I don't think this is PMT.

I think it is something's happening I don't know what Hasn't your PMT always presented itself in a very similar fashion for the last 30 years Yes

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toying around with what he wants to do and might go away or he might do a party or might do a luncheon or whatever. It's been a big topic of conversation in the household. So he has now decided he was floating around the idea a few months ago that he wanted, my dad is very, very physically active. He's not like most 80-year-olds. He was floating around the idea that to go and climb Kilimanjaro. Yes.

Yes. And I was not up for Kilimanjaro. No, he was. he was but then you've got a whole altitude situation there's a lot of travel involved there's a lot of camping involved like it's a whole it sounds like hell there's no amount of money you could pay me to do that no but no you raise money no i don't want to do that either it's no just there's a no you're raising money for people who are worse off than yourselves there's no situation where i'm going up

that i don't want to do it either and i certainly don't want to take my 80 year old no up kinemaja who am my kidding, he'd be taking me up. Anyway, so on Friday night, he said, bear in mind we did a trek. I have to give this context. We did a trek three years ago. Yes. Me, him, my sister and a load of other people, and we did it on behalf of the food bank. And we raised thousands and thousands and thousands.

I think we raised something like $7 to $60,000 or something for the food bank. It was amazing. And it was an amazing experience. We did the three peaks in Yorkshire. And it was an amazing experience. And watching my dad climb up the third peak and getting to the top. It was very special, but it was a very difficult climb and my sister struggled immensely with it

because she got in training, she got the most terrible blisters. Oh no, it's the worst. The worst, like terrible. So by the time that we got to the walk, she shouldn't have done the walk. So she managed to do two peaks, but she couldn't do the final peak.

And then her feet were just absolutely ruined for like weeks after, bless her. Anyway, so Friday night, he's like, I've decided what we're doing. I'm like, what are we doing for my 80th? I thought we were like going to go to the four seasons for two nights. Like, no, we're not doing that. We're going to walk peer to peer. Have you heard of it?

No. It's Eastbourne Pier to Brighton Pier. It's 26 miles. That's what we're doing. A marathon? Yeah. You're walking a marathon? Yeah.

For what? For the food bank. Oh, for the food. Okay. To raise money. Not just for shits and giggles. No, no. And he's not asking me, he's telling me.

Okay. So I'm like, well, when are we doing? He goes, well, I thought we would do it, maybe bank holiday augurs, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, well, what about Lisa? Lisa's not doing it. Lisa can't do it. Lisa can't do it. Well, I can't Lisa do it.

Lisa's got bad feet. Anyway, right? Not anymore, she hasn't. It was three years ago. The blisters have healed. Right. Right. Exactly.

So I let that go. And then about an hour and a half later, I said to him, Dad, are you aware? My sister was at the minute. My sister did not say a word. She's like, I've got such a fucking get-out. I will stand at the Brighton Pier with sandwiches and drinks and a fucking banner and balloons. I don't have to do the walk.

She is living her best life. So she basically shut up. Yeah, I don't blame her. I did say a word and just got on with dinner. About an hour and a half later, I'm like, hold on a second. I've just processed this. Why are you not doing the walk? She goes, because of my feet.

I said there's nothing wrong with your feet. There is nothing wrong with your feet. What did Dad say? Yeah, she's like, well, no, you know, last time I was like, listen, it was three years ago in September. There is no way you still have blisters on your feet. There's just no way. No way. And I'm not doing it unless Lisa's doing it.

And my dad's like, we both know you are doing it, whether you like it or not. And we both know that Lisa isn't. That's my meltdown. I already know you're doing it. I felt like a child who is like, it's not fair. And why she get to go and I don't get to go? You know, it's that. I reverted back into like this nine-year-old

who's telling my dad that it's not fair. Yeah. But you know you're doing it. Of course. It's not even an option. It's not a conversation. It's not an option for me. You should get Daisy to do it?

Oh, he asked her. And? She was like, Papa, I love you so much, but no. You know what? I am very happy. Do you want to come and do it? I don't want to do the walk, but I'm very happy to stand with Lisa and Daisy with the cake and balloons at the end.

You walk every day. I don't walk 26. I don't know how far you think I walk with Bieber, but it's not 26 miles. It's more like two. You think I walk 26 miles a day? No, I don't think you walk 26 miles a day. It'll be so much more fun if you come. I think I'd need like three years of training.

Well, you just need to train a bit. Okay. Tony's not going to be cross if I don't do it. I might get him on that. Ollie might do it. Ask him. Only might love to do it. Yeah, he would.

I think he actually might. I think you should do it. I think you need a challenge. Do you? Yeah, I do. I actually do. This is amazing. Yes, I do.

Yes, I do. I think you need a physical challenge and it's a challenge that you do anyway because you walk. Just what I wanted. I got a life coach this morning. I'm not asking you to do like a CrossFit tournament, championship or anything of the championship.

Championship, wow. You've got high he skilades. You've got high hopes for me. What next? I'm not asking you to do something that you don't do, but you do it every day and you like walking. You like walking. I don't.

I think I like walking that far. Yeah, you do. Come on. Come on. Come on. It's for a good cause. I'll think about it. I'll think quickly because he's signing us up.

Hi ladies. Says, is it a non? It's a non. This is not my midlife moment, but my sister did this on Monday and we're still laughing at her. It's all about the sisters today. She had a meeting with a new customer

in a coffee shop, all phone contacts. She'd never met him face to face before. She was waiting for him and slightly annoyed that he was running late. A flustered man walked in looking around so she approached him and asked if he was Tom. He said yes. God. So she introduced herself and asked him what he was drinking, ordered him a coffee and he sat down. A little bit of small talk, nice Christmas, did the kids enjoy it? Traffic was bad, all of which

he answered. It was only when she mentioned the purpose of the meeting that he said, you seem very nice and it's really lovely chatting, but I don't actually know who you are. Have you got me mixed up with someone else? The Tom that she was supposed to meet had texted her to reschedule but she never checked her phone because she thought she was talking to him. He let her waffle on for 10 minutes. That is quite embarrassing, no? That's quite embarrassing. But what are the chances?

It's quite a common name. But it's the fact that he walked in looking around looking flustered. I think anyone would have done that. What do you mean? Anyone would have said, how high are you, Tom? Yeah. Yeah. And he would have said yes.

I mean, that could have happened to anybody. It could. That could have happened to anyone. It could. But then. But then wouldn't you say, how do you know me? If you walked into a cafe quite flustered and someone said, oh, hi, are you Nicole? And you were like, yeah.

And they were like, here, let me get your coffee. How was your Christmas? Blah, wouldn't you be like, sorry, but who are you? Yeah. Like, how long would you let them talk to you for? A couple, a minute. But you see, in my situation, I would naturally assume that I had just forgotten. I knew them really well, but I'd forgotten who they were.

Yeah. Because of your face blind. I would sit there. It happened to be in the gym, didn't it? It happened to me in the spa. Yes. And this guy was going on and on and on and on and telling me all about his wife. But you were the right person.

You just didn't know who he was. And I saw him the other day. Yeah. And I thought, oh no, I haven't got, I've got the head for this again. I literally put my head down. Still don't know who you are. I can't pretend. Yeah.

Oh, how are you? Yeah, it was a whole, so weird. It's so weird when that happens. It was very discombobulating. I get that. Anyway, that's it for us today. It's been fun. Yeah, it has been fun.

Well, you had to think about that. Yeah. Well, I was thinking about what we talked about, and I don't know a load of shit. I can't really remember. But I think it's been... I think it's been okay. I think it's been okay.

Yeah. I think so. Have a good week, everybody. Have a good week, everybody. We're going to be back on Thursday. Yeah. With another episode, you lucky things. Don't say we don't spoil you.

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