40ish - Tikitok Shop & Talking to the dishwasher

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

This week on 40ish Lauren has started talking to kitchen appliances (they don’t talk back) whilst Nicole has been exploring the world of Tiktok shop and emerging with some very surprising purchases.... A listener finds herself in an unwanted and excruciatingly awkward situation with a school dad who has taken a liking to her and finally; Jason Isaac’s penis. What is going on there? Tune in for the chaos, stay for the laughs!  We would love to hear from you! To share your feedback, dilemmas, rants, funny stories or general complaints about midlife please be in touch at: Email hello@40ish.co.uk Instagram https://www.instagram.com/40ish.podcast  TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@40ish.podcast Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/share/DVQWb6y2vesgeHEK/?mibextid=LQQJ4d  To order our book HAVE YOU TRIED THIS?” click here  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Have-You-Tried-This-Only/dp/1801293139/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1O7EA4ZF1O5CS&keywords=have+you+tried+this&qid=1699449028&sprefix=have+you+tried+%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-2 Go to ZOE.com to find out what ZOE Membership could do for you. You can use the exclusive code 40ISH10 to get 10% off membership. As a ZOE member, you’ll get an at-home test kit and personalized nutrition program to help you make smarter food choices that support your gut. Use 40ISH10 at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Nicole, when was the last time you actually listened to your gut? I always do because nutrition in midlife is so important and we know there's a lot of misleading health advice out there and most of what we're taught about food is wrong. Did you know that Big Food even pays TikTok influencers to say that ultra processed foods are healthy when they're not? I actually find that shocking but it's no wonder that one in eight people globally, that's over a billion people are living with obesity. So our sponsor, Zoe, understands that our health is suffering and that it's time we
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Starting point is 00:02:49 The full frontal from Jason Isaacs. What do you want to talk about it? What do you want to say? Like what is there to talk about? Well the first question was was it his or was it a prosthetic? Is it that big? Friendly. It was really friendly looking. What does friendly mean? It just looked friendly. You know, sometimes they're really un-cleaning. But don't you find that most of the time when you see a penis it is usually friendly? Hello everybody, welcome to Fortier, I'm Nicole Goodman. And I'm Lauren Mishcon. This is the podcast that navigates the challenges and absurdities of 40 something life. Every
Starting point is 00:03:31 episode we discuss your dilemmas, your problems, your issues, your rants, it all. We discuss it all because you have kindly shared with us what is going on in your 40ish something life. And we dove on our own stuff, don't we? What's going on in your 40 something life this week? Well, you're rubbing off on me. In a good way or a bad way? Well, I'll let you be the judge of that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I bought, you went very serious, I have bought rubber utensils because I am actually so sick and tired of you slating my kitchenware that actually you've been bullied into submission. Is that what you're saying? You were shaming my kitchenware. Wow. So yeah, I think that is quite a middle-aged thing to do to get quite excited over a set of utensils. Are they exciting? Well, they're pink, love and they're rubber, love and they were like, it's an 11 piece set. Oh, tell me more. And they're dishwasher safe. Bloody hell. I don't know. I don't know oven safe, but why would I need to stick them in the oven? You don't need to stick them in the oven. And they do exactly what it says on the tin. They sound banging. Well, you did come in and you did see them. Do you remember? And you said,
Starting point is 00:04:50 oh, they're very pink. Feminine, I think. Well, you said pink and then you said feminine. And then you said, because it softens up a masculine space as if my kitchen is like super masculine. Well, now you're so busy with your ninja accessories. But the ninjas rose gold. What the creamy? Yeah. Well, you've got to, as we have previously discussed, the ninja air fryer with the mega zone. Yeah. It's quite large and black.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. You've got a brand new, as discussed on the other week's show, because your fridge was broken, brand new, very big black fridge and black ovens. So I would describe that if I was Jeremiah from Queer Eye, which I wish to God I was, but sadly I'm not, as a masculine space. But now the rubber pink utensils, sugar pink. Sugar pink. Do you think my kitchen is masculine? I think it has a masculine energy. Do you? I do. Yeah. Do you not? You know what? I am so bogged down with females. You've got a concrete dining table. That is quite masculine. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I just, the dog's female, the daughter's a female. I'm very female. Well that's good because it balances all that balance. It definitely isn't balancing anything. Yeah. So I thought that was quite a middle-aged thing to do
Starting point is 00:06:11 and to get excited about it. And here's the caveat. Go on. Because it makes me actually cool. Not middle-aged. Even though those two things can and do very much coexist. Yeah. I don't want to say that it doesn't because it does. I ordered them. Guess where from? John Lewis. No, much more hit than that. Homebase. Is homebase more hit than John Lewis? Habitat. Ikea. I can't remember the last time I bought something from Habitat. Is that still going? Who knows? No, no, no, no, no. And no, they were from TikTok shop. What? TikTok shop. I've never bought anything on TikTok. I actually buy a lot of kitchenware from TikTok shop. Is it like, does it, it doesn't fall apart? Well, Ask me how much they were for an 11 piece set,
Starting point is 00:07:05 rubber set, all matching. They had better be at least 15 quid. Otherwise I worry. What are you going to worry about? You know what? Don't let it keep you up at night. Nine pounds, 60. Okay. Let's see if they last you until the summer. Well, let me tell you something. The last thing I bought on TikTok shop was a set of like these viral brushes that were being sold in Selfridges for £200 and I bought them for 12 quid. Hair brushes, makeup brushes. And I bought a set for me and my two daughters. They are still going. We still all use them every day.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Haven't got the bristles all falling out. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. I've never shopped on TikTok shop. I wouldn't got the bristles all falling out. No, no. Okay. No, no, no. Okay. I've never shopped on TikTok shop. I wouldn't actually even know how to shop. I know you would. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Do you have to Google TikTok shop? Or is it like inside TikTok? Like how do you even shop on TikTok? I don't even know. What do you think? Like give me a wild guess. I think you go into TikTok, but then like random videos start playing at you. Yeah TikTok but then like random videos start
Starting point is 00:08:05 playing at you. But then what do you do from there? Is there a search button or something? There's like an icon at the top that is shop and it takes you into the shop. And also I really wish I didn't know this. The thing is everything's so cheap on there. Oh this is also from TikTok shop. That is falling apart. Yeah so So let's not be promoting. Let me tell you something, right? So this is a dupe of a Stanley cup. Stanley cup. Thank you. Can't give a word out.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So this is a dupe of a Stanley cup. Now this and I have got real Stanley cups because Adam does work with TikTok quite a lot. So he often brings home these viral products and all of my Stanley cups, either the lid has broken or all of it started to chip. So this has lasted just as well as a £60 Stanley cup. So what I'm saying is don't diss TikTok shop. Okay. The proof will be quite literally in the pudding. Depending on how many puddings you make with your new pink rubber utensils.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Are you proud of me? Yeah, I am actually. I'm really like you've entered the grown up phase of cooking life. Yeah. Yeah. And now, yeah, because I bought a new pan. This was a while ago. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and Daisy was making, I don't know, an omelet or something in it. And she went to pick up the metal spoon and spatula. And I went mad. I was like, what do you look? I said, you can't use a metal spatula in the pan. And she looked at me like I was bad. I was like, what do you look to me? I said, you can't use a metal spatula in the pan. And she looked at me like I was bad. I'm like, it'll chip it. So I know these things now. Wow. This is great. Yeah. This is really good. Yeah. I want to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So that's me. You rubbing off on me. Yes. I want to know how I've rubbed off on you. Okay. I'll tell you. You're going to be proud in my bedroom. Okay, this is weird. Permanently now, permanently. Yeah. At the end of my bed. Yeah. I have a rolled up yoga mat. Oh, and one four kilogram dumbbell, just one, because that's all that is in my house. Okay. I found it. Sometimes that's all you need. Well, I don't know. Anyway, I've started three times a week Well, I don't know. Anyway, I've started three times a week to do some squats. With the four kilos.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Well, I do, I do, you told me I have to do three reps, but no more than five. I didn't say three reps, I said three sets. Three sets, three sets, sorry. I don't have the lingo, but I know what you mean. Three to five sets. So I do like two without one rep. Rep is a repetition.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. So it's every time you do it. Yeah, I do three sets. Yep. Two sets, just on my own, one set with the weight. I do some dead bugs. I do some- You do dead bugs?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. I do- Why are you laughing? That's so cruel. I just didn't expect you to say that. I did dead bugs yesterday. They're horrible. I actually quite like them. Do you? I do some of those. Bicep curls. I do some of these. Lateral raises.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I do some where you bend forward and do it like that. Oh yeah. Triceps. Triceps. Any other words? Yep. And then I do the lunges and I have to tell you they are my worst bit. Lunges, let me tell you, I have been training for like, they're always, why do they hurt so much? They still hurt. I hate lunging. I always hated lunging. I will hate lunging for the rest of my life. And you know what else I hate? Press ups. Well I do those on my knees at the moment, but I always end with a proper one, proper couple, because I feel like I should be aiming for better.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I am. I am. Do you love it? I am. Do you love that for me? Speechless. Speechless. So what day are you doing it?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Oh, and I also do, I don't know. Who gave you this little circuit? Oh, I found it online. Found it online. You know, it was an article about the importance. You are so stubborn. It is unbelievable. I remember when we first started working together and you used to say that Olly, your husband, called you stubborn and I always used to say, I don't find you stubborn at all.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But actually, as the years have gone on on he is correct. You are stubborn. It was an article about the importance of strength training in midlife and because of my hashtag osteopenia I don't know why I've hashtagged it, it's real. Like alleged. It's not alleged. I had the Dexascan, it real. I was like, you know what? I don't want to fall over the step and shatter my head. And you don't want to not be able to get out of a chair when you're 80 years old. Oh, I do glute bridges. Is that what they're called? When you lie on the floor and like put your pelvis up. Yes. And then on a Friday, I do Pilates with your
Starting point is 00:12:37 sister and your mum. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Not as in your mum, just your mother. Your actual mother. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's not much. It's very little. I actually don't minimize it because I am very proud of you. And I do in my pajamas. I don't like wearing outfits. We don't need to because you're in your own bed.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Now the reason I was saying you were stubborn is because God forbid you asked me for any advice on this because you couldn't bring yourself to could you? I did ask you for some two kilogram weights. You didn't have any. That wasn't advice. That was just a favor. Well also no. What are you going to do? Hold one two kilo weight? No. This woman said start with two. Okay well starting with four. Right great and now you've done two sets bodyweight and one set with four. Now you can do one set bodyweight, two sets with four. Well, I'll, you know, I'll get there. Is there a day, certain days? No, you can just, just do it. You're fine. You're not waking up, not being able to walk
Starting point is 00:13:34 the next day. So you're right. So you can push it a bit further. I'm not really pushing it very far, to be honest. How many reps are you doing? Three. Three reps or three sets. Sorry, three sets. How many reps? Oh, 10 to 12. Great! Depending
Starting point is 00:13:46 on how, you know, energetic I'm feeling. Look at us. Is that good? You proud? I have rubbed off on you and you have rubbed off on me. Yeah. Isn't that wonderful? Maybe you could give me a cooking lesson one day and I will give you a PT. I would hate that. Not the PT, the cooking lesson. You might really enjoy it. My children hate it when I cook with them. Why? They say I'm a bit bossy. Oh, you are bossy. No, just no. I'd like to train you. Yeah, I bet you would. You'd also be a bit bossy.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I wouldn't actually. I might cry. You wouldn't cry. I might. You wouldn't. I've got loads of chat in the gym. Okay. You've got loads of chat at the gym. I have. Why are you laughing? I have. I've got lots of chat in the kitchen. Right. Tons. To yourself. Yes. And that was my 40ish thing this week. What was? Chatting to myself in the kitchen. I wasn't going to bring it to the show because it's a bit mortifying, but as I always say, if I'm doing it, I know that other people are doing it too. So can I tell you something? I can't be alone.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You don't just chat to yourself in the kitchen. You don't. What do you mean? You, you chat to yourself a lot. I get it from my parents. They both do it. Did they? Yeah. I think it's hereditary. But anyway, I peaked this week. What did you, what were you talking about? It wasn't what I was talking about, it's who I was talking to. Yourself, presumably? No, no, the dishwasher. Oh dear. I realised that I did it twice.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You're like Shirley Valentine-ing it. I know. I realised that I did it twice in two days and then I thought it's so awful, I have to bring it here because I'm praying that some other midlifers are gonna DM us and say oh my god thank god I do that too. So on day one I, the dishwasher always wants rinse aid like always. Always? Always. Like are you, like chill out with the rinse aid, the worst is when it wants salt.
Starting point is 00:15:40 No we don't deal with the salt. You have to. No because anyway it's a whole other thing in my house why we don't need the salt, but it wanted rinse aid and I called the dishwasher a greedy bitch while I was filling her up. I was like, you are such a greedy bitch. Don't you think I've got enough to do every day? I'm giving you the rinse. I'm doing it every day. Not every day, but I was shaming her for it. I don't even know why she's a her, But I was shaming the dishwasher. And then this is the worst one. Yesterday, I turned it on, shut the door, and then I realized that I'd left my coffee cup out. So I opened it, put it in and caught myself saying, sorry for interrupting you! I'm not joking! I actually have dribbled!
Starting point is 00:16:26 Sorry for interrupting you! And then I shot again! I thought, oh my god, I'm losing my mind! I know, it's bad, isn't it? Where do you even go from there? I think we go to a break! I know, it's bad isn't it? Where do you even go from there? I think we go to a break. I've no words, just stop doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Just stop doing it. Okay, do yourself a favour and the dishwasher, just leave her alone. Just before we dive into your dilemmas, a quick disclaimer. We are not doctors, we are not healthcare professionals. This is a fun space where we share our thoughts, which could be wrong, they could be right. We don't know, they are just our opinion. So if there is an issue that you are seriously struggling with,
Starting point is 00:17:19 please contact a qualified expert. This email came in Lauren. I saw it. I'm just like, okay, because both of us are like chomping at the bit. Yeah. Yeah. To talk about this. Read it out.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Hi Lauren and Nicole. A dad in my daughter's class seems to have taken what I can only describe as a liking to me. After a few very ordinary, generic chitchats at pick up and drop off, things turned weird one day when I happened to be wearing a sleeveless top and he commented on my arms asking if I work out. I said yes and ever since then his comments and conversation have become more and more inappropriate and uncomfortable. This week at pick up, he happened to be walking past my car as I was getting out and he said oh wow this just gets more and more interesting every time I see you.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Because I was wearing a black sleeveless midi dress that is actually very unremarkable and had toddler snot smeared across the skirt. As we were walking into the school he said, Did you do some working out today to keep that beautiful shape of yours? What? And then she says in capital letters, When I tried to deflect and I told him I have a son as well as a daughter, he said, Wow, that's even more amazing that you look so good.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I was horrified, but being the people pleasing, avoid confrontation and awkwardness person that I am, I just smiled and nodded. I think most women would have done at this point. I'm not suggesting that's correct, but I think most of us would have just wanted that moment to go away. He's married, his wife sometimes drops off for extra clarity. I'm an expat in Qatar, so it's hot. That's why I was wearing a dress. You do not have to justify what you were wearing. We're going to get into it. Okay. Please, she says. It is so important to note that I am happily
Starting point is 00:19:18 married. I am not flirty. I did nothing to bring this on. I was as polite and friendly to him as I am to all the mums and dads in my child's class and I do not fish for this kind of attention in any aspect of my life. I am so mortified and uncomfortable with this whole situation, I am worried about the optics of it, that he insists on walking with me to and back from the class. He actually waited for me at my car this morning and shouts things like, there you are. I was worried. I wasn't going to see you today in front of all the other parents. I mean, it's just, wow, I feel so awful for my husband. Like
Starting point is 00:19:55 I am betraying him somehow by getting this kind of attention, even though I've done nothing. And I am also, and she says in capital letters, so fucking angry that I have to now take on the mental load of how to avoid interactions and think of where I'm going to park, work out my timing so I don't bump into him, what I'm going to wear or rehearse fake phone calls so I don't have to talk to him. I just want to be left alone. How do I approach the situation without it tainting my twice daily routine with anxiety and awkwardness? Sorry for the length of this, she says. I'm just very upset. I want to hear your wisdom on this topic. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Firstly, I want to say I am so sorry that this is happening to you because none of this is okay. None of this is appropriate and And I can understand why you are so upset. And all of this is on him. A hundred percent. But I just don't want that to get confused. No, because the comment of her, I'm wearing a dress because it's hot. You can wear what the hell you like. It doesn't mean that anyone has the right to make you feel uncomfortable picking up and dropping off at your own child's school.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Or anywhere, or objectifying you anywhere, at any point. It's not okay. So this sort of thing, pretty much exactly the same situation happened to me. Yes, I remember. I've talked about it on the other show, right? So when my older kids at primary school, so it was a long time ago, a married man, a dad in one of my kids classes rang me up. He must have googled my number because he didn't have my number. How could he Google your number? Oh, because it's on your website. Because of my other business, yeah. He googled my number, he rang me up at 11 o'clock in the morning. But did he, before he called you, was there signs of
Starting point is 00:21:46 him flirting with you? No. Right. Okay. He rang me up 11 o'clock in the morning. I was driving. I had Josh was in the back of the car. He was a baby. He was like one or something. And he said, Oh, hi. I will change the name. He said, Oh, hi, this is John. Uh, Jane's husband. Hi, how are you? I was wondering if we could meet. And so I'm immediately thinking, well, he obviously wants to talk about one of the boys, my son and his daughter. And I was like, Oh, what's going on? Well, can we meet? And I was like, well, I'm not really going to meet up with you unless I know why it is that you want to meet. And you've never spoken to him before. Okay. These were the two interactions I had with him at the school summer fate. I hosted the cake stall.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He found 10 pounds on the floor, handed it to me and said, here, I found this on the floor. And I said, thank you. And I put it in my money box on the cake stall. And yeah, that was actually the only interaction that I've ever had with him. The end time I've spoken to him. So he said, uh, I said, I'm not going to meet up with you unless I know like has my son done something? Is your daughter okay? Like what's going on? He went, Oh, I think you know exactly what's going on Lauren. I said, sorry. I've seen the way you look at me.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I was like, I'm sorry. What do you mean the way I look at you? I saw how you looked at me on sports day. Sports day. I don't remember ever seeing him but I was definitely with Ollie, with a baby on my lap watching my child. What I wasn't doing was eyeing him up or flirting with him or he basically made up this whole scenario in his head. He basically created some sort of relationship or scenario or whatever he thought was going on between us. The arrogance to phone you up. And also in the introduction describe himself as someone else's husband. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You need to say hi this is John. He said oh hi this is John, Jane's husband. You're like, whatever. It took me, because I was so like stunned by this random phone call in the middle of the morning, it took me like a good five minutes into it to realize that he was inviting me to meet him for sex. I just didn't, I'm very naive, I just didn't twig. And in the end I was like, you know I'm very happily married. I'm not, and I'm not interested. And he was like, you know, I said no thanks. And he was like, oh, okay, if that's the way you want to play it.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And ended the phone call. Anyway, I was so shocked and stunned and uncomfortable. I didn't know what to do. So I went straight home. I told Ollie, he found it completely hilarious that I didn't twig in the first minute what was going on. He just found it funny. I didn't find it at all funny.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I told one other mother in the class that what was going on. He just found it funny. I didn't find it at all funny. I told one other mother in the class. I bet she was horrified on your behalf. She was very shocked. And then I had to spend the next two school years like this poor lady, basically avoiding him at any parents' evening, at any school play, outside the school gates, and his wife. Because, but now I look back on it and I'm so angry with myself and I understand why she's feeling so angry because why didn't I say to him at the time, what makes you think that I am not going to put the phone down right now and bring your wife and tell her that you've just propositioned me. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But I'm like, I don't know what goes on in their marriage. Maybe they've got an open marriage. Maybe he does this all the time. Maybe she knows, who knows? But it made me so uncomfortable because I knew I'd done nothing to bring this guy on. Yeah. And it was so deeply inappropriate to behave like that. So I really, really feel for her. But having been in this position, I would say don't do what I did and have two years of you having to change what
Starting point is 00:25:26 you're wearing and you're doing to avoid him. Like either call him out. No, no. Or say something. I mean, well, she's got to call him out. She's got to call him out. How she goes about it and does it is another story because that is not an easy conversation to have. It's really nobody wants to have it. No, no. And he's basically forcing her to set a very, very uncomfortable boundary. That just, it just didn't need, she just didn't need the aggravation of it. Yeah. You just want to go pick your kid up, finish. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. But he's the one that's created it, not her. Yeah. And I think the sooner this is nipped in the bud, the better she will be. But what sort
Starting point is 00:26:04 of thing do you say? Because, you know, if you say, listen, I feel really uncomfortable with the way, let's say, for example, she could say, I feel really uncomfortable with the way you comment on what I wear or, you know, the way you're behaving with me or talking to me is making me feel uncomfortable. You just don't know how he's going to react. I haven't touched you. I haven't said anything to you. It's irrelevant. You're such a prude. You know what I mean? So he will more than likely gaslight her or deny it or try to gaslight her so that she then feels like an idiot. Yes. That is very likely going to
Starting point is 00:26:35 happen. Because look at this guy. Yeah. Look what he's doing. He's behaving so inappropriately. Whether or not he thinks it's inappropriate, whether or not he thinks it's harmless is irrelevant. Whatever he thinks and feels about it has got nothing to do with it. She feels uncomfortable. It doesn't sit well with her to the point that she's now having to edit her behaviour and her wardrobe. The fact that she's writing this note into us and then justifying to us why she's wearing a dress. It's like you wear whatever you like to pick your child up from school. No one has the right to talk to you about it or be behaving like that around you. I'm quite angry for her and I really do understand how she feels. I do too. I do too. So I would say get your head very, very straight on the fact that this is
Starting point is 00:27:23 about his behavior making you uncomfortable. And regardless of what he says in response is irrelevant because all you have to say is the attention that you give me and the way that you speak to me is inappropriate. Please stop doing it. That's it. It can be that simple and that direct. Can you please not comment on what I'm wearing on my body? It's making me very uncomfortable. And I'm not interested. So stop. I don't know what it is you're after, but it's not happening. Be very direct, very clear and very quick. Get in, get out. And shut him down. And whatever he responds to, just repeat it. The way in which you speak to me makes me feel uncomfortable. You can
Starting point is 00:28:07 just say those things over and over again or, or you just walk away. I've said it now. I'm not interested in having a conversation about it. Just stop. I think it has to be that brutal and that direct. And also it's, it's quite easy for us to sit here and say that, but to do that is so hard and so awkward. You know, I really, yeah, hideous, but you'll only have to do it the once. My feeling is he won't do it again. No, because he's a bit of a bully, isn't he? And he's trying to take advantage and it's not okay. It's not okay. It's and the fact that she's even thinking about modifying where she, yeah. Nah, nah, this is all his manipulation and it's not okay.
Starting point is 00:28:52 No, no, it's not in any way. I really, really hope that helps. Please do keep us posted on how it goes. And I'm just sending so much love to you because this sleazy man just needs to fuck right off. He does. Agree, I agree. Fucking sleaze. I agree.
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Starting point is 00:31:10 And right now, get 0% APR purchase financing for up to 60 months on the 2025 Escape plug-in hybrid. For details, visit your Toronto area Ford store or ford.ca. So I want to talk about Jason Isaac's penis. I want to talk about it. I haven't been watching White Lotus. I have. I am going to watch it. I have seen this clip on Instagram. Is he in a tally robe or something and he's like crosses his legs? Well he's kind of been stealing his wife's sedatives and he sort of is wearing a dressing gown and he's with his three kids and his wife and he kind of drops off and it opens up and there is the schlong, the full frontal from Jason Isaacs.
Starting point is 00:31:55 What do you want to talk about it? What do you want to say? Like what is there to talk about? Well, the first question was, was it his or was it a prosthetic? Is it that big? Yeah. Okay. Well, I was just interested to know whether he actually got it out or whether he didn't. Anyway, it's like most people, like a lot of actors do, they do do a nude scene. So why wouldn't he like a woman gets her boobs out and that dress gets her boobs out a lot. I only just found out that the girl in the substance, not anymore the other fabulous
Starting point is 00:32:30 girl who plays the younger version of her, her bosoms were prosthetic in that film. I assumed that was her body, but apparently it wasn't. It's interesting that you assume it's a woman's body, but you don't assume it's a man's. Yeah. What's that about? I don't really know. I had to talk to my mom about it. Your mom?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Had to talk about Jason Isaac's penis to your mom. I did. I was like... How'd you bring that conversation? I mean, I would never talk about Jason Isaac's penis to my mother. Well, I Googled it. She basically asks me how the kids, like what's going on?
Starting point is 00:33:03 I tell them what they've done at school. Like Jason Isaac's penis is never going to come out conversation to my mother. Like never. Well I said to her I googled to see if it was a prosthetic or real. Did you know it was a prosthetic? And she said, well, I don't know why you're surprised. It's a prosthetic. Often penises are prosthetic in things like that. I said, what do you mean? She said, well, you know, there are, you know, if they have to be a certain way, I think she was trying to talk about erections. And I was like, but it wasn't mom, it was flaccid.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It was flaccid. And she was like, well, I don't know. Use the word flaccid with your mother. My mother is, you know, she's cool like that, it's fine. And I said, but you know, it was flaccid. They could have just used his real one. And she said, well, I don't really know why they used a prosthetic with women.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They don't, but then I guess you don't see everything with women. You just see a bit of fluff. But you do see boobs. You do see boobs, but boobs are different. They're not, actually. Why are they different? They're just different. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Anyway, they're not like misogynistic. They are not different. It's the same. It's not the same as a nunny. It's not. It's the same as a penis. Why is it any different? A man showing a penis and a woman showing a boob. It's different. It's not different. It's just nudity. Anyway, it wasn't real, but you know what? It was a really friendly looking one, I have to say. And people are like obsessed on the internet with this. Friendly.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It was really friendly looking. What is friendly? What do you mean by friendly? It just looked friendly. You know, sometimes they're really unappealing. But don't you find that most of the time when you see a penis it is usually friendly? Some are friendlier looking than others. It was friendly looking. I mean I've been looking at the same one for a very long time. So I mean it's an old friend. It's a very old friend and when it's a very old friend. Yeah but you know sometimes you see them and you're like and sometimes you see them and you're like oh friendly. I don't know when the last time I saw a penis was. Well that was the last time I saw one was on White Lotus this week. Well they've they like blank it out online. Oh, okay. Okay. Also the internet has gone like wild about this, but they don't when a woman is
Starting point is 00:35:12 nude on the show. Exactly. So he's had a lot of interviews and a lot of questions and a lot of deep diving about the penis. Can you imagine how annoying that must be? He's in all these interviews and they're asking him, is it real? Is it prosthetic? Is it real? And he's like, listen, no one needs to know how the sausage is made. You're all obsessed with the sausage. I just thought it was very funny the way he's been handling it. But you know. So Jason is it's penis. Yeah. This is what we're now discussing. That's what's been going on this week. Also, it's the worst. It hasn't actually been going on this week. Nothing has actually been going on.
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's been going off online. Yeah, but it like, you know, this segment is normally like, tell me something the middle age that's going on for you. This is not, this is not going on. That's what's going on for me. Okay. And now I've got my new very focal contact lenses. There you go. I could see that clearly. Okay. Maybe that's what it was. How are the very focus working for you? Well, great. Are they? Yeah. Do you see me wearing my big old glasses today?
Starting point is 00:36:10 No, no, no. So far, so good. Okay. Yeah. So you're, you're, you're here for it. I am totally here for it. So far, I've got to do a week's test and go back again and report back on my findings, but my findings so far are pretty, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:36:27 My findings so far is it looks very friendly. Do you think I should say that to the 32 year old optometrist when I go back in? How are you finding the variflux decision? Well, Jason Isaac's penis. We will be back on Tuesday with an unfiltered 40ish, which is the sidekick show to 40ish, where we read out all your feedback, all your emails, all the things that you're commenting on over at TikTok. It's a lovely, lovely, fun show, so make sure you tune in for that. And then we'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. And then we're back with the Self Care Club.
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