40ish - Unfiltered - Husband swapping, Dryrobes and chopped tomatoes

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

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That's amazing. That is amazing. That's when we've just finally morphed. Well, it's not morphing, is it? It's just you've just decided to embody me. I'm just now you. That's weird. Do you think my husband wouldn't even notice?

He might not. I could stick on a pair of leggings, make a protein shake and it to him. He might not notice. I don't think he would. You've got the leopard print going on today. Yeah. Got your leopard print shoes, your leopard print coat. Yeah.

Is it Kat Slater? I don't know. Well it's always a fine line. Well leopard is a neutral until it isn't. But when do we know? When do we know if it isn't? I always think it is. I have leopard print underwear. I do. You've also got your leopard print pajamas who your husband hates them. He's allergic to them. Is he? They're man repelling. Oh that's why I love them. I also bought a pair of leopard print pajamas from Primark. How does your husband

feel about them? He hasn't even mentioned them. That's what I mean. I don't think he'd notice. If you slipped into bed with him, he might not notice. In the leopard pajamas. Although I reckon he'd notice the cooking had sort of elevated a notch. If you got into my bed in the leopard pajamas, Ollie would immediately just turn over and ignore you. He may not notice you. He'd just see the leopard and then just, that would be it. So what we're saying is, if either one of us got into each other's beds with the

other husband they basically wouldn't notice. I'm scared to try that though. I've got... I love your husband but I've got no interest. You'll be pleased to know in slipping into bed next to him. He doesn't sleep in anything either so that would be weird. The whole thing would be weird Lauren. The whole thing would be weird, Lauren. The whole thing would be weird. And also, I'd have to listen to your husband snoring, you'd have to listen to my husband, you know, we don't need it. We might not even notice the difference. It's true.

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Right what's going on? What's your moan of the week? Okay this is my moan of the week. I'm gonna say at the top I understand it's a it's a first world problem. I absolutely hate being on holiday and doing the Ocado shop. Like being away and thinking about have we got toilet roll at home, do I need nappy sacks to pick up the dogs? It trashes the holiday. Can I just ask, I know you buy nappy sacks, is there a reason you don't buy dog poo bags? Yes. Are they more expensive?

No, the nappy sacks are scented. Oh! Yeah, and also if we are really going down this, the dullest conversation ever, the dog poo bags, they have a very small, firstly they don't have a tie handle. They don't, you're right. They're just flat. So nappy sacks, baby nappy sacks have a tie handle. They're scented and they are much easier to open. Like you haven't got to do that whole licking finger trying to open them thing. They're just like bigger, better, they smell nicer, they've got tie handles, they are like £1.60 or something for a hundred. So they are cheaper? I think so. I think so. Okay. Yeah.

Right. Do you want me to get you some when I do the next Accade shop? On your holiday. On my holiday. I can stick them in the basket. I've actually got an Accade shop coming at four o'clock today. Oh you're too late to edit the basket now. Of course. Next week. Next week. Which could go into my Moana of the week, but we'll get back to yours. Firstly, I'm going to move past the fact that you're going on holiday. Okay, let's move past that. And that you're doing an Ocado shop on the beach. So we're just going to stick it. Well, I'm not. I'm not. Because do you know what I've done? I've done it now. I've already done it for when we get back. I have bypassed the problem and I've cancelled the milk. Hashtag

winning. I just want to tell you, it's not actually a problem. It's not. It isn't. It isn't. It brings down the vibe. It does. It does. Right? It does. It's Wednesday afternoon, everyone else is like doing their holiday thing. What am I doing? Thinking about if I have enough chopped tomatoes. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But I always have chopped tomatoes. Always. I know. How many, what's the minimum you're happy to have in your cupboard at any one time? Four. Four. Like a pack of four. Okay would say six why six because I buy in a pack of six has to cut I have also have to have a jar of passata as well I've

stopped with passata why because I just buy the tomato puree what the tube yeah not the same not the same thing what you use for your passata in your in your bolognese well it depends on the dish. If I like a chunkier tomato I use the chopped but I use finely chopped only mootie. They are my favourite brand. I wish we were sponsored by Mootie. Use passata. I do.

For a smoother sauce I like a passata. Do you know what I mean? I'm like sitting down on a sunbed and I'm mentally scanning through my kitchen. I'm like dry goods, freezer, fridge, do I have kitchen roll? This is not holiday fun. It's not. And it's also so it really highlights the end of the holiday. Yeah. Because you know, you're coming home to laundry and unpacking. And also you have to then switch your brain on to reality because

your brain's been switched off. Then you have to figure out the time and the flight times and if there's a delay and when you're picking up the dog. Yeah yeah all of it. So I've done it all in advance. I've actually done it. So it's off the list. Now I can just continue with the list of empty bins, water plants, make sure dishwasher has been run and emptied. What do you mean? There's no one running a dishwasher if you're not there. No, no, I have to mean I would never leave a dirty dishwasher and go away. I have to run it before I go unload it and then I can get on the plane and I'm happy. Come on now. And if you don't?

It's never happened. It's never happened? Never. Never, ever, ever. It's like I wouldn't forget my passport. I sometimes just want to chuck a little bit of chaos your way, just to see how you would fare. Not well. I don't think you would fare well. I mean, you fare very, very well in life, but it's all very conditioned.

Like everything has to be done. So I'd like to see you when everything wasn't done. No, wouldn't. No, no you wouldn't. No, no, no I would. I would. I actually would. Actually it brings me on to my moan of the week, which it wasn't what I was gonna say but now that you brought the Cardo Shop thing up, now that we find ourselves in this very riveting place, I'm going to stick with that theme. And it's when you realise that it's too late to edit the basket and you've forgotten stuff. Hate that. I hate that, right? And then this morning, my daughter starts sending me recipes of things

that she wants me to make for dinner. But we had agreed on tacos this morning. I thought, right, I've got the mince, I've got the taco mix, I've got the tacos, I've got the shredded lettuce, I've got everything I need. Fabulous score, tick. Then she's decided that she wants me to make this crispy rice salmon Asian-y dish, which looks, I have to say, utterly delicious.

But I don't have all the ingredients. So do I say no? And we're not delicious. But I don't have all the ingredients. So, do I say no? We're not doing that because I don't have the ingredients and I can't be bothered to go to the supermarket on the day that my shop is arriving. No. No what? No, you do not go to the supermarket

on the same day your shop is arriving. I'm allergic to that idea. You say, sorry darling, got all the ingredients for tacos, tomorrow we can have the lovely salmon dish. I've also started noticing that I use that phrase now, I'm allergic to that. Is that because of me? Yeah, definitely because of you.

Anyway, so I think it is just the worst thing, isn't it? Or you'll be lying in bed and you think, oh god, I didn't order those chopped tomatoes, I've only got four left in the cupboard. We're also going gonna have tacos tonight. We've also started making the same meals on the same nights, I've noticed that. Oh, I wanna know what you do with your tacos. What do you mean? For those of you listening that don't know Lauren

very well and haven't been listening to us for that long, firstly, welcome and thanks for listening. But secondly, Lauren is an amazing cook. So whatever you are, so whatever tips she's got, just take it, don't question it. Oh, and she made me and I forgot to tell you this. I was meant to tell you this in the car, but we've got into a whole political debate. This is much more fun. I like us to have political debate. I mean, it's quite highbrow for us. It was, wasn't it? Yeah, I'm actually quite impressed with us. Are you? Yeah, got very serious. Yeah,

but I'm impressed with us because we could spend a half hour car journey talking about Maybelline. Don't even lie. Or like Gigi Hadid's new vests or, you know, I'm actually really impressed with us. I would agree. Or the traitors. Yeah, totally. Or something like when's maths are coming out. We took it highbrow in the car. We did. And we don't bring that to the podcast, but never mind.

They're not tuning in for that. No, they're definitely not. They're not tuning in for our political views. No. So we had some feedback about the James Nesbitt slash James Norton discussion. Oh, that's so mortifying. So I watched it back, by the way. I watched it back.

Oh, right. Basically, if you didn't see that episode, it was a few weeks ago now. And Lauren talked about that she had a sex dream about James Norton and I thought she meant James Nesbitt. Yes. Then it turned out that you got asked out by James Nesbitt, but you said no. Yeah. He didn't get tagged in that, did he? I don't know. Who would be like, who is this woman? Like you'd leave me in charge of that. Well, I tagged like, I would tag like James Corden. I mean, I think the whole James would be involved in this situation. So, no. So, at Olly Moly said, James Norton

equals very hot and then three like thumbs up emojis. He is very hot. Yeah. I can understand Jimmy Nesbitt. It's the charm, the flirty smirks, the beguilingness circa cold feet times. Yes. But I'd rather a sex dream about Norton to be honest. I agree with every single thing that was just said. It's also they missed out something about James Nesbitt. It's the twinkle in his eye. It's the Irish charm. I'm a bit of a sucker

for a bit of charm. Now you know my friend Jess who's not imaginary but you say she's imaginary. Yeah. Imaginary Jess, I've never met her. She has messaged in. So, to be honest, if I don't see it, it hasn't happened. Okay. That's what my trainer used to say. Oh, I said, oh, I did that in 20 seconds. It goes, well, I didn't see it.

It doesn't count. Okay. Well, that's the situation with Jess. Yeah. She has said in capital letters, I know James Norton. They grew up together. Oh. And then she has-

She grew up with him? Yes. Then she is added also I now have no idea how good friends we are or how much is a parasocial relationship I've developed through listening to your podcast. But we haven't even mentioned him before. Well she meant through listening to that episode I think. That's interesting that she suddenly has no idea how friendly she is with him because you've been talking about him. I don't understand that. She had actually quite a lot to say about him but I just don't really feel like I... Oh come on! Come on!

She was like... I can't say! Come on just say one little thing. Just give us a little bit of juicy... She was like if you were really good friends with him you'd find him less sexy. Oh I don't want that. No. Why? I don't know why. Maybe like when you just find him less sexy. Oh I don't want that. No. Why? I don't know why. Maybe like when you just know someone really well. So when he's like a serial killer

in Happy Valley. I was still into him even then. So was I. Even when he was like trying to set fire to the children in the house I was still into him. That's really bad. That's dark. I think everybody was and that really made me question myself. I know it was some dark shit. I think it's like if you grow me question myself. I know it was some dark shit. I think it's like if you grow up with somebody and you've known them since you were like five they're just not sexy to you. You know because you remember like when they wet their pants and that time that they got like bolognese pizza sauce down their top.

Also because you know them as a kid you don't know them as a sexy I was going to use the word hunky. Hunk. Hunk. How middle aged is that? Well we're to use the word hunky. Hunk, hunk, wow. I mean, how middle-aged is that? Well, we're here. He is hunky. I got it.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. We're going to cut to a quick break, and then we're going to come back with more feedback and a midlife meltdown from one of our listeners. Back soon. Lauren, you know me. And you know when it comes to answering the listeners' dilemmas and when it comes to food, I always trust my gut. And I also trust Zoe, the leading size and nutrition company. All the nutritionists that we've spoken to on Self Care Club have highlighted just how much misleading information is out there when it comes to food. Things like the claims

that you see on packaging that say things like low sugar or nothing artificial. These are often assigned to actually avoid these foods. Ever noticed a health claim on fresh fruit? No, never. Right, well you get my point. So it's completely understandable why there's so much distrust and wondering who you should turn to for accurate information. Well it's very simple. It's not a dilemma for us. We use Zoe.

Backed by one of the world's largest microbiome databases and most scientifically advanced at-home gut health tests, Zoe gives you proven science whenever you need it. Go to zoe.com and find out what Zoe membership could do for you and because you listen to 40ish you can use the exclusive code 40ish10 at checkout to get 10% off membership. As a Zoe member you'll get an at home test kit and personalized nutrition program to help you make smarter food checkout. Trust your gut, trust Zoe. I've also got a bit of feedback. Oh yeah. Do you remember a couple of weeks ago, I mean we released so much content I can't remember what gets released when, so please forgive me. We were talking about or someone, no someone wrote in it was a

one of the dilemmas on the main show, and she wrote in about the woman in the changing room sitting down on the bench without a towel and sort of spreading her foof, I think she called it, on the bench. And she said something. Yeah, she's sitting like butt naked on the vinyl bench in the gym changing room, yeah.

And you asked me if this is something that happened. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't actually that sure because it's not something I look out for, but I have been. Oh. I've done my research. Oh, you've done like gym nakedness due diligence. Yeah. In the changing rooms. Such a hard word to say, isn't it? Due diligence. Due diligence. Yeah. Yeah. What have you discovered? I've discovered that people don't sit on the bench without a towel. Okay. Doesn't happen. You went on foof watch at the gym. I did. It's wrong isn't it? It's really wrong but I like it. Well it is what it is. That's what I did. They don't sit down on a bench

without a towel so they keep their foof to themselves. I wish you'd done a survey. I can do a survey. I dare you. I could ask men if they do that in the dressing rooms, in the changing rooms. Well, Zach tells me, this is my son, who's at the gym six days a week, he tells me that most men just kind of get out the shower,

stick their pants on, get dressed. He said, but there are some men who really like to stand about dick swinging. Just have a chat, stand around. Well, women do that too. That was my next point. So this morning, and it was early, I was in the gym early this morning

and I was leaving around quarter past eight and there were three women in there. One was sitting on a towel with her, she was naked but she had a towel around her waist but she was sitting down. One was sat like where the hairdryers and the mirrors are and she also just had everything was just hanging out. Like just hanging out.

Really just boobs all over the place. Oh, and there was one woman standing up with her leg on the bench, just rubbing all of her body lotion in, but like really, really rubbing it in. I bet she was the same one who was talking to me when I was in there. Well, I did remind me of what you told us. I bet it was her. She was in exactly the same position, and she was doing exactly the same thing. And they're all having a chat. And they're just chatting and chatting. And I just kept thinking, you know, you're not a very big person. There's not that much body lotion that needs to go on this small body.

I'm telling you it's the same woman. She always had the leg up. Yes. It's like, mate, why don't you put on knickers first and then put the body lotion on. I'm so glad you've seen her now. Yeah. But they were all just and it's fine because I don't care we've all got the same bits and pieces. I just I don't behave that way in a changing room. I sort of dry and get changed. I would cover up bra and knickers

goes on pretty swiftly. Can I just say one thing about the bra thing? I don't like a wet under boob the bra thing. I don't like a wet under boob. Does anybody? No but like that's not, no but I'm saying I understand why you would sit there with your baps out for a little bit to dry the under boob because if you get out and you're like a little bit wet still you put your bra on then you have that like nasty, I don't like that feeling. But you know what I did the other day? What? They've got GHD hair dryers in there. And you just dry it under the boots yeah yeah i would do that at home before putting a brow on yeah i probably wouldn't do it in a public changing room well i did did you i did you just lifted them up and gave them a good old try how dare you they might be as pert as the day that they used to be well they're not and they do need lifting up. I just don't need reminding of that.

Hello, what do you think? Mine are pointing to the fucking sky every morning? They are not. I bet yours more permanent. Well next time we're in the changing room. What a big idea the changing room. Change contrast. Okay, someone wrote in a man in reply to the limerence dilemma that we had. Do you remember that poor lady wrote in, she said she was feeling hormonal and she was in a state of limerence with a man in her office.

Poor woman. She was completely infatuated. Yeah. And it was like ruining her life. So a man wrote in and he said, I have experienced this. I wasn't in a relationship, but she was. Turns out she was a narcissist. Oh dear. And I think it was caused by her manipulation and love bombing. It was very subtle. Nine months in and then she showed her true self like a complete stranger.

Oh dear. That's narcissism at its finest, isn't it? It sounds awful this. 11 months now, no contact. Worst experience of my life. I'm sure limerence was a factor in blinding me to the red flags and allowing me to let my boundaries evaporate. Oh I'm so sorry that happened to you. Wow it's quite brave of him to write in with that wasn't it? Yeah it really was. Thank you so much for sharing that and I'm sure he isn't the first person to have experienced that. That's what narcissists do right? I don't really know. I feel like everyone's called a narcissist now. You know, I feel like it's bounded around quite a lot.

I do too, but I reckon there's quite a lot of them around. But it's just, you know, like with everything, it's a spectrum, isn't it? I don't know if I actually know any proper ones. Um, that's a good question. Do you know any real ones? I'm like, who's diagnosing these people? No, narcissists don't get diagnosed. It's the victims of narcissism that go and get the help, but the narcissists themselves, they're too much in fact, they're in total infatuation with themselves. They don't think there's anything wrong with them. I mean,

what if you are one yourself and don't even know? Like, what if I'm one and I don't think there's anything wrong with them. I mean what if what if you are one yourself and don't even know like what if I'm one I don't even know. You're not a narcissist. How do I know? Well because there's nothing narcissistic about you. I don't know if they have no insight then how do they know? Well firstly the last thing you're gonna do is love bomb anyone. one. Let's get on to the listeners midlife meltdown. Oh I love these they're almost my favourite part of the week. Are they? Yeah. They're your favourite part of the week. I love to know what other people are moaning about. I would like to know if you feel it's reasonable to wear a dry robe if you are not getting out of the sea. I have such a thing about dry robes. My husband has taken to wearing his to our son's Sunday league football matches and to walk the dog.

I feel we are only one step away from him wearing it out shopping and I'm scared he'll end up on the dry robe wankers Facebook page. Is there an actual dry robe wankers Facebook page? I checked. After this came in, I did my due diligence. Well done. Again. Well done. I checked. Yeah. It is a Facebook group. It's called Dry Robe Wankers and it is a group. This is the description

of the group. Group for the description of the group, group for the haters of dry robes that are worn for other than their original purpose. Did you start this group? No! Did I start this group? It's the sort of thing that would really wind you up. Can I tell you something else? There's been a bit of a scandal. Have you found it? Dry Robe Wankers. It's got, can I just tell you, 92,000 members. Oh my god, this is a thing then. This is a thing. 92,000 members. This is a thing. So there was a bit of a scandal about this Facebook group because the premise of the group is you find people in public spaces that is not coming out, that is not the sea, the seaside surfing where they're wearing

dry robes to take photos of them and upload them onto the Facebook page. That's not right. They were putting their faces on, right? So there was a whole scandal. So now you're not allowed to include the faces of the people. I don't think you should be allowed to do this at all. But they were. I think it's completely wrong.

Anyway, I had to obviously have a bit of a scroll. Did you join the group? No, I didn't join the group. You have to. In order to get into the group, you have to join the group. No, you don't. Yes, I had to obviously have a bit of a scroll. Did you join the group? No, I didn't join the group. You have to. In order to get into the group, you have to join the group. No, you don't. I scroll up. Well, I was having a good old scroll at the photos and I tell you something.

It was hilarious. You don't. My favorite one, dry robe in Ikea. Oh, no, there was a better one. Dry robe in the John Lewis cutlery department. Brilliant. Dry robes everywhere. Oh my god. There's a dry robe dog coat. Oh my god.

There's a dry robe dog coat. I have gone backwards and forwards with these dry robes of how I feel about it. I walk the dog every day it's fucking cold. One of my closest friends she does have a dry robe. Is it the camo one with the hot pink inside? No. Which one is it? It's just black. Black. Very utilitarian. But she shares it with her husband. Okay. So it's absolutely huge on her. Yeah they're massive anyway. They're massive anyway but she shares it with a husband who's a lot taller and bigger than her in general. Yeah. And she's like, but I'm so warm. I mean, they're not the prettiest of coats. It's not actually a coat.

Like the point of the dry robe. It is a coat. No, it's the point of the design and why they're so big is so when you get out of the sea, you can put it on and get changed underneath it and still remain warm and then put your clothes on. They're not really meant to be worn in IKEA or like over your clothes. I feel like we're going into a space where you know you're not allowed to have a Christmas tree before December the 1st, you're not allowed to eat a

fucking Easter egg before March the 30th like with you. This is you know you have these rules. I'm just saying that's why they're big and roomy because it's not a coat I just feel like we're moving into an area where you're gonna have a whole whole ton about this it's a dry robe it's a robe it's a robe for changing when you get out the sea it's not a coat I think it's okay for people to wear dry robes whenever they fucking want I'll see you would not be joining dry ribrib wankers Facebook page. I mean, what? I'm really sorry, but there's 92,000 people

who are just judging other people. Get over it. There are so many other things to get yourself het up about. Or are they all people that actually wear the dry-ribs and they're calling themselves wankers? No, they're not. So they're just outing other people who do?

Correct. Correct. Correct. I'm not down with that. I would like to say at this point... I'm surprised you haven't joined. I haven't joined. I'm not going to join. There is a dry robe in my house.

I was just about to say that. Not only a dry robe, a dry towel. Do you know they also make the towel? I do because it's in your office upstairs. Has it actually left your office upstairs? Neither have ever left. Both still have the label on. The reason they exist is because my husband was cold water swimming every single day in the pond and everyone else who does it has a dry robe because it's fucking freezing and then you can put it on and get changed underneath it. So I thought great I'll buy him dry robe then he can take it. He never used it, never once and then you can put it on and get changed underneath it. So I thought great I'll buy him dry robe then he can take it. Never used it, never once. And then his friend bought

him a dry towel for a Christmas present. Never touched it. So they just both sit there in the office just gathering dust. You should put that on the group. I can't because it doesn't make him a Facebook wanker if he doesn't wear it. I think it's in the same territory. Not that I would ever call your husband a wanker because a. that's not cool and b. I don't think he is. But I think it's only for people who wear it in inappropriate places if it's not worn at all. I don't think it's for anybody else to say where people wear a fucking dry robe.

What if it's your own husband? You have every right to say what he wears when and where and who and how because that's the point of husbands. Listen, we've got to go back to your husband's white backless trainer things. You don't like those. She doesn't like her husband's dry robe being worn at the football matches. I've shown you those trainers. I've seen them now in the flesh. They are as awful as you described. They're just, aren't they just not awful? They're awful. They're just awful and they were not cheap. That makes it even worse. It's a shame there's not a Facebook group for them anywhere, Batlus trainers. Yeah, yeah maybe I'll start one. Okay, right between the three meltdowns, so we've got the Ocado shop on holiday.

Yeah. What was mine? Oh, having forgotten things when you're at Ocado shop. Editing too late. Remembering, but going in to edit too late. So then you haven't got the items that you need. Yeah. Or this dry robe thing.

I have to say, i think i'm the winner what yeah i do i think mine's an actual real moan it's not obviously not a real moan but i think it's a real thing it's so annoying it's such an annoyance the dry robe thing is just not a thing that is not a moan it's not acceptable it's not okay so you think is, you are disagreeing with her, you feel it is reasonable to wear it if you're not getting out the sea. One million, billion, trillion, willion percent. I think she just needs to put down, like set the boundary. Okay, you can wear it to his football match, but you are not wearing it when we go shopping. No, I can't be seen with you. I just think she should get over herself. She's not one.

It's between you and me, mate. Do we have to agree on who's the winner? I mean, there's no prize. Oh, there is. What's the prize for the midlife moan of the week? Being the moaniest midlife woman of the week. Being the fucking Karen of the day. Yeah.

I mean, it's hard to be moaning about doing something whilst on holiday because the fact you're on holiday is like get over it. Also get over yourself. I've won. I'm giving it to you because I just don't have the energy to argue it. I've won. But I'm not sure. I'm not sure I agree. I've won. Oh what crowning glory that is. That is our show on Fortier Shelf Filter. We'll be back on Thursday with the main show. Please stay tuned. Please come over to our subscription. It's all on Apple, so you can just find it there. And thank you so much for listening. We'll

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