5 Live Boxing with Steve Bunce - Dana White UNFILTERED

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

What does Dana White really think about Eddie Hearn, boxing's sanctioning bodies and the reaction to him getting involved in the sport? Buncey sits down with the boss of Zuffa Boxing to find out. White doesn't hold back as he gives his honest take on boxing, the people who run it and the changes he thinks the sport needs. It's a candid, outspoken and at times controversial chat with a man who’s not scared of ruffling a few feathers.

This is Five Live Boxing. Endless Saturday nights and fights. Chris Bill and Smith won here when Ryan Wazicki retired at the end of the seventh round. But that does not tell the story. It does not even tell a tiny percentage of the story. It was quite a ridiculous, ridiculous and brutal and savage fight. It was also a full house down here, and it was Dana White and Zupa Boxing's first show in the UK,

a show they will never ever ever. forget. Now, we'll hear from Shane McGregan, he's trained them a bit later on, and we'll also hear from Tasha Jonas, so she attempts with me to try and analyse the seven crazy rounds that we witness. But first, we're here from Dana White.

Now, I sat down with the UFC boss, now the boss of Zuffer, on Friday. It was the big talk. There were about 30 people in the room, and they stood in silence, as Dana and I went through plenty of topics, talked about his vision for

boxing. Connor Ben's role in that vision. His rivalry with Eddie Hearn is quite harsh on that. His attacks on the sanctioning bodies and his reasons for the attacks on the sanctioning bodies and the whole White House UFC saga. It was a good sitdown, a special sit down, an audience worth waiting for and hopefully an audience worth listening to. I'm Steve Bunce and this is Five Live Boxing. Dana, thanks very much indeed. First of all, I was talking to a couple of people, and I was trying to work out,

when you were involved in boxing all those years ago, 25, 30 years ago, were you a manager promoter or a bit of everything, or just a fixer? I had never promoted a fight before. I'd done everything that you could possibly do in boxing, except promoting or judging. I even reft.

I did some reffing, too. Remember Mitch Halpern? Yeah, of late great. The late great, killed himself far too young. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, he was the guy who actually coached me in refing. So why are moving to boxing at this particular point or over the last, whatever, it is year or so? Yeah.

Why now, Dana? You know, I always say this and everything is about timing. I've sort of talked about getting into boxing for years, and every time I'd get on the phone with somebody in the boxing world, I'd say, why the hell am I even thinking about doing this? but it just sort of all came together over the last couple of years and I don't know it just everything came together it just the timing was now was that because you felt that this was the time because boxing needed fixing or could change or was in crisis or any of the above or all of the above I mean people have been you know calling for the demise of boxing for the last 30 years and what I did see is it just keep getting worse and worse and worse and worse and truly over the last

I don't know, however many years, maybe 15 or so, it's become a very European sport, you know, not as big in America as it once was. Massive in Europe, though. Yeah, it's become a very European sport. Yeah. Absolutely true. And dominated by the UK. Did you see a gap or did you just think that I can revolutionize this sport at the moment

and I can get a place at the table? What did you think? Well, I've been talking about it for a while, but it just sort of all came together over the last. couple of years. You know, it's about the timing, but having the right team together, too, which sort of all happened for me in the last year or so. So putting the players into position, and the players being the boxers as well. Absolutely. And I've sort of, in the United States, dabble a little, you know, I have my own network with the UFC. So I started putting some boxing fights on the network. Yep. And.

And, you know, that was sort of how it began. And were they doing decent enough business then? Yeah, yeah. You know, it, you know, Callum Walsh, you know, we highlighted and started to help build him. I liked him when I met him. And, you know, I just been sort of goofing around for the last couple of years. And the timing just all came together. So how has the first six months or five months been so far?

Was it, this, this has been six show so far, correct? Yeah, it's been incredible. How's that been? I keep saying to everybody, judge us January 1st after we've been in it for a year. But if you look at what we've done, who we've signed, the fights we've had, the television deals we've made, the other sponsorship deals we've made,

all the things that we've done in the business in five months is pretty impressive. So wait till we've been in the year and watch. Well, you're certainly shaking up the boxing business, which is, it seems to me, is part of what you wanted to do as well. You're giving everybody warning that you're in town, and it is going to be different from now on. Yeah.

Is that fair comment? Yeah, I mean, yeah, everybody's definitely on. My head of PR says in her lifetime, she's never seen more people talking about boxing than right now. So, yeah, we're definitely doing that. Now, when Turkey Alashik started the whole Riyadh season revolution, the Saudi Revolution back in October of 2023, he talked endlessly about a league.

Forget champions. Just we have a boxing league, one to ten. boxing league, a sort of table like we have in soccer in the UK, even though I know you're not a big fan of soccer. That's okay. We won't go down that way. It's the wrong time we do that. Trust me. That's not here, not there. So the league system, is that still something that's in your mind, your idea that we'd have one through 10 and everyone would have to fight for their positions? Yeah. Inside your organization. Yeah, it's not rocket science. If you look at what we did with the UFC, when we first bought the UFC, you know, none of these fighters were known

there was no sanctioning bodies or any of that and if you look at what we built over the last 25 years it was what I wanted to do with boxing and if it worked for UFC imagine what it'll do for boxing

and do you sense that it is it's like six months into your UFC rain whenever it was back in the 90s is that similar to where you feel you are now or are we getting somewhere inside boxing no idea the 90s we didn't own it we bought it in 2001. Okay, excuse me, yeah. And obviously, you know, I built the UFC. I've done power slap.

And I have the playbook for this thing. I, it's obviously this is a lot smoother and easier than the UFC was when we first launched that. Even though there were no great rivals, as opposed to boxing their business. Well, there were then. There were. That's, that's what a lot of people don't realize. We had a lot of competition back then when we first bought it and we weren't the biggest. The pride organization out of Japan was bigger than us. Okay. And so with boxing, it's, as you say, smoother in the sense that you know where you are, and you know your position at this moment. Yeah. And I also feel like, I mean, I've said it before, I don't want to keep, you know, smashing these guys, but... No, it's fine. You're allowed to.

They're not as good at what they do as I had expected and not as sophisticated as I expected. And I don't know why I expected that because the sport is broken and messed up, but I gave them a little too much credit. I don't ever underestimate anybody, but I gave these guys a little too much credit when I got into this.

And these are the big British, the big British and American promote, the existing hard, three, four, five or whatever they are. Those guys have a lot of, impressed you as much as you thought they might? No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, could you identify where you feel there may be short, Dana? I expected coming in to compete with these guys. I actually expected some competition. There's been zero competition. There's been, it's been, it's been very unimpressive, very unimpressive. I like comp. I like to compete. You're combative, yeah.

I love it. There's nothing. There's literally been less than zero. So what about some of the sort of stuff that we're hearing, certainly of stuff that you and Eddie throw at each other? I mean, how much of that is, you know, how much of that is terrific pantomime and how much of that is personal?

Or is it a sliding scale? I'm sure a lot of it is personal on any side, but not on mine. You know, in all honesty, I like Eddie Hearn and I liked him before I got into this. I like Frank Warren. You know, I met with his son a few years ago. And, you know,

George. Personally, I've no problem with these guys. I mean, the way Eddie has handled himself, you know, it's been a little weird. I sort of didn't expect it. You know, I mean, the whole Connor Ben thing. We're best friends. And, you know, the whole, no, you're not. You're his promoter.

And you haven't done anything for him that any other promoter has a done for their fighters too. You believe that even after even the friendship that they had that we saw them develop over over years. You generally believe that. If that is true sir. If that friendship is

true, then that he should be happy for him that he actually made more money and is able to take care of his family. You know. Which is exactly what Connor Ben said. When your friends are pissed off that you did well and that you're, you know,

I don't know. You don't need many of those kind of friends in your life. But at the end of the day, the one thing that you have to understand when you're a promoter, everything is business. Yes, there's no doubt that you end up having relationships with guys and you care about them and you, you know, well, if that's the case, if they go on and do better, then you should be happy for them.

Were you surprised that Eddie's emotional reaction to the news when it officially broke? Because my understanding is Eddie knew for about 10 days, before Feb 20th. Is that correct? I was actually surprised by a lot of Eddie's, you know, reactions to a lot of things. And like I said, I expected more. I come in to deals and businesses, and I don't underestimate anybody. And let's be honest, Eddie was beating his chest for a couple weeks there saying,

I look forward to competing, this is going to be great. Then he's crying, literally crying about his, you know, oh my God, this is terrible. And he's the lowest form of life. The guy's the lowest form of life because he did a deal that is good for him and his family. And this is professional sports. Your window of opportunity is this big, right? And a lot of people in the industry think negatively of Connor Ben.

Oh, he's not even that good. He's not this. He's not that. Well, the guy went out and cut a good deal for himself. Why would you, why would you, you know, you know, on him for that? It's weird to me. Did you, did you and Eddie have, were you still corresponding via WhatsApp or whatever, in the lead-up to Connor Ben? I mean, I'm not saying you and him are best buddies, but my understanding is, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that you did exchange him, you know, you did talk to each other.

And it was kind of cordial before that February 20 moment. And sitting right here today, I told you, I don't dislike Eddie Hunter. Believe me, there's guys in the business that I don't like. Eddie Hearn isn't one of them. Neither is Frank Warren, but, you know, I expected a little more competition. I expected to compete. But they're saying that they expected a little bit more competition from you. They've looked at the six shows that you've put on so far.

They've looked at the shows, and they're unimpressed with them. They've been perfectly run shows and perfectly decent shows. But during that period, for instance, they put on stadium fights and, 20,000 arena fights. They might say, if I sat down with Franks, and they might say the same thing. I've done those too. I appreciate you've done those.

The difference is with the guys is they don't understand the vision of what's, you know, nobody. We're doing things that in this business, in this sport, in combat sports, we've done things that have never been done over the last 25 years. And we're going to do it in boxing too.

And, you know, they might be unimpressed right now. Let's see where we are in a couple of years. Do you feel like you're uniting them a little bit or keeping them together? I mean, Turkey out of shape brought Eddie and Frank together, and you might be united them. Do you get that sense? I think we've united everybody. Everybody against you. Everybody versus us, yeah.

It's almost like this interview should be taking place in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan with no one watching. This is what's fun for me. This is what I like. So it just goes to show you they all had to unite to try to stop what I'm doing over here. I love it. And just one more on Conor Ben, and has that turned out a bigger situation,

a bigger story than you expected? I mean, as you say, you signed a fighter. It wasn't universally acknowledged as a great fighter. He was a great attraction. So you went ahead. My understanding, you and Turkey had a shake. The deal was a double deal, if I'm not mistaken. So you've signed the kid,

and it's suddenly become an enormous event. He's become an enormous fighter. That's your influence again. It's the golden touch, Dana. Yeah, it was, absolutely the right move. We love the kid. Plus, I love him.

He's a great kid. We're going to do some big things with him. I'm going to ask you about the belt situation because it seems fairly fluid and a bit confusing, if you don't mind me saying so. Certainly, Jay Opatire stuff was a little bit, a bit confusing.

Where are we at the moment? You've got your own belt, the Zouffer belt, which Jai, if I'm not mistaken, has. And hopefully one day, Chris Billamsby if we'll get a chance to fight Jai for it. That might be nice. But where are we with the other belts,

the organizations, and where do you stand with the four recognized sanctions? bodies at the moment. So when you come in and you're breaking up something that's been going on for over 100 years, it's going to be messy. I don't want to work with the sanctioning organizations. I think they're one of the major problems in this sport. But you have these fighters that since they were kids, they've wanted that belt. And it's important to some and it's not important to others. And if it's important to the fighter, we'll try to figure out and work with them on what we can do. other than that, it's going to be the Zouffer title.

So you're mildly fluid then. So let's say, for instance, Connor Bennett come to you with a WBA belt and he desperately wanted to keep that bell because he's dreamed of that red belt all his life. Yep. You would work with him and the WBA to try and make sure that he could keep that belt

whilst he's defending and challenging for the Zupa belt. Absolutely. So that's not a rigid black and white situation at the moment then. Right. We've cleared that one up, haven't we? Yes, we did. That's not bad. I'm quite pleased with that. Now, how important is the UK to you?

Because you've talked about how big European boxing has been over the last decade, certainly massive over the last decade. So how important is it to have a footprint here and how often might we see Zouffer here? I'm five months into this and I'm already doing my first fight in the UK. I already have a sky deal. The UK is very important. I think that over the last 20 or so years,

the UK has dominated boxing and has really taken over the sport. So obviously it's very important for me to be. here, but just like we built the UFC business, it's important for me to be everywhere. And to really have a powerful boxing business, you have to build the United States. You have to have a business in the U.S. That's new enough building from ground zero up. I mean, that's what I'm working on now. Build it from the ground up, just like we did the UFC. When we bought the UFC, nobody knew any of those fighters. Nobody knew anything. And, you know, that's where we're at in the United States with boxing right now.

Now, when Turkey was talking, Turkey Alasheque was talking about a league, especially last year, he was talking, and then when you came on the scene, he was talking about crushing everything. Do you consider that you're coming to crush everybody? Have you coming to devour everybody and take over? Are you here to just to do what you do? And if you rise to the top, or when you rise to the top, you rise to the top? Or would you still use words like crush? Well, I don't have...

A nice wrestling word, by the way. No, I understand. I don't ever come in to just exist. Like, oh, we'll just here to, you know, float around and I'm coming in to win. You can call it crush. You can call it destroy. You can call it smash. I'm here to win.

But it's not personal. It's business. Not personal at all. Yeah. All of my interactions, until after I really got into this and Eddie Hearn started acting so weird. Like I said, I like both the promoters. I like both of them. And I'm here to compete.

And was one of Eddie's weird acts that Tom Aspinall situation where obviously he's got some sort of arrangement with Tom? Well, my buddy just comes out and says, I want you to release him. I want you to release Bam Rodriguez. That's how stupid what he said is, you know what I mean? Okay, I want you to release Bam Rodriguez. He says some weird shit, right? You're not talking to, you're not exchanging email. No.

No. No, no, any of I haven't talked. Okay. And I've got to ask you, I think it's coming up next weekend or the weekend after, the White House situation. Yes, sir. And the suggestion from the president that he might keep your octagon there. But you're laughing. I mean, so with that in mind, I mean, have you reaching out to anybody to see if we can get something of Buckingham Palace or something?

What are we talking? No, I definitely haven't done that. The president asked me. By the way, that is world-class named up in, Dane, if you don't mind me saying so. All right, just to let you know. The president asked me to do the fight at the White House. I obviously said yes. And yes, he said, you know, I think this thing looks great out here.

I love it. And when you see it in pictures and video, it really doesn't do it justice. It's impressive. And this is going to be a one-of-one unique event. You know, I don't ever think about things like this. Like, we did The Sphere. I went to the, I'll name drop again here. Tom Brady and I went to see you two at the Sphere.

and halfway through the show, I said, I have to do a fight here. So I called my guys and said, next week you got to come check this out. Then the president asked me to do the fight at the White House. Other than that, I'm going to be in arenas, you know, like the one here in Bournemouth.

And I don't really think like that until something sort of happens and leads me to something different. When you started this or when it looked like it was going to be happening in September, October, November, your phone was ringing, I'm assuming. Is your phone ringing?

now, more now with boxers and promoters, wanting to, managers wanted to speak to you and find out if they can get, is it ringing more now? Is it double the amount of calls? Every day. Every day, the whole boxing thing is really exploded since we got into this thing. And yeah, everybody is reaching out to us. That's why I keep saying, give us a year. What we've done in five months is incredibly impressive. When you think about all the boxing promoters that have been around forever,

They're all on the same network right now. They're all on DeZone. And nobody's watching DeZone in the United States and some of these other parts of the world. We're in over 90 territories right now with Zufa Boxing on television. The guys that we've signed, the fights that we're looking at,

I'm already five months in. I'm doing my first, you know, fight in the UK, Sky Deal. You know, not bad for five months. Do you have a message for, I don't know, boxing fans? because, you know, because it's a PR battle between you and the existing promoters and you're up and they're up and they might be in front, then you might be in front. Let's, let's, if you could send a message to, say British boxing fans. This is a huge, huge win for the fighters and a huge win for the fans.

I mean, competition is always a great thing. And, you know, boxing is just going to get better and better and better for the boxing fans here in the UK and the rest of the world. So that was Dana White talking to me on Friday, answering every question. thrown at him and giving me honest answers. Some of it will be controversial. Some of it will be very newsworthy, especially the stuff about the White House. Anyway, that was Dana White.

Now, about 27, 8 or 8 hours after that, the boxing took place. It was sold out here at the Bick, and you know the kind of crowd of CBS attracts. But the fight with Ryan Rizziki, I'm not really quite sure where to start talking about it. So, as I promised in the intro,

Tasha Jonas has joined me, and if I said to you that Tasha's looks about as cluding as me, she looks as dazed as I am, that was the type of fight that Lee, well, first of all, how are you, and how did the first Zufa show go for you? I thought it was a great show with great fights from the start to the end. The last fight, you know, what more could you ask for? I mean, I think it said on our, I think I said in Combs, it said on our sheet that Vizitsky was orthodox, but he was just any. He was just any.

He just any, he just came forward. He was any docks. Yeah, he was any docs. He was south forward. He was square. He came out. He just, he didn't take a step back. And, you know, as a top of the bill, you know,

things that people pay their money to come and see. The fight fans cannot be disappointed in that. And again, once again, we know Chris Willem Smith's got a good chin, but he had to show something extra there because he had to be smart. He had to create spaces even when there was none. He had to make a fuss of the head when it was being used and he had to pick the shot out because Rizzity was closing the space so quickly.

So it ended at the end of the seventh round when he goes back to the corner of Zizki. He's got a cut over his left eye and a bad cut over his right eye and he's been hit with three or four unanswered punches at the end of that round. But he'd been hit with five or six or nine punches in another, in another. Some sitting next to Steve Collins and he said to me, He said, Bunsey, this is a movie. Now, that's what I mean by confusing. It's really hard to sort of explain.

I mean, we don't see people taking six and seven big shots. You might take a big shot, take another one, but no one hits you with left, right, left, right. I mean, nine punches, Tash. I'm still not quite sure what we saw. I think he hit him with six that was meant. And then two, the extra two, he just took on the chin because he was saying you can't hurt me.

So, I mean, what a performance. there's no, you know, there's no... He can't even say anything bad about Rosiske because he came with everything that he got. I don't think you can train anything. You can't train that in somebody. You've been in a few gyms and you've been around a lot of trainers,

both amateur and pro. What would, if you had to try and describe his style, what, what, you know, you're sitting down, someone says, I didn't see it, Tash, what was he like then? Try and explain to the... Bear in mind, this is radio, this is pod. Try and explain what style he had.

Go and stop. That was it. Go and stop. Bell goes, bell stops and that's it. Have you seen the film on Leashed where they take the... He's quite timid and he's thinking, but he's intense. Rizzki's intense. Great look as well.

And then you take the leash off and boom, he just goes forward and doesn't stop coming. That is exactly what he is. Yeah, until the round is that he sits down and gets recharged for 58 seconds, then comes out again. It was a brutal and savage fight. And at the end of the night In fact, what I'm told to us, I don't know if you notice, but after about four rounds,

Dana White apparently instructed people and said there will be no interviews tonight. And there were no interviews with the boxers after the fight. So we just got a confirmation there for Andy Scott who works with you at Sky. And he was saying, that's actually true. Chris Bill and Smith seemed okay at the end

and walked out. But Rizki, when he went through his corner at the end of the seventh, he looked at the, and they have both been out. This is live. We have now been in four, and they've both gone to hospital. Standard, it's not uncommon for fights like that to end with someone going to hospital. What view did you have of Riziki when he went back to the corner test?

Because I was over that side, I couldn't see much. Could you sense how he was in the corner? I think there was talk of him not being able to see out of his eye. I think that was the first report we got back. Then someone said he was out in the corner. And we couldn't really see because by that time, the doctor had been called over, the ref had been called over, and there was a gathering of people. He couldn't actually look through, but he did get carried out on the stretcher.

So he kind of walked to the ring, walked to the edge of the ring, but then once he got downstairs, he went on the stretcher, yeah? Yeah, he was on the stretcher and he got carted off. And I think, like he just said, I think Andy's just confirmed both of them went straight to hospital. And after a fight like that, you can understand why. So I did catch up with, obviously, I didn't push to see Chris Bill and Smith and certainly not to see Ryan Rosickey. But I did speak to Shane McGregor, who like Tash and I still still,

seemed a bit shocked. He wasn't celebrating in the ring at the end. It was that type of fight. So I caught up with Shane McGregan, who's been training Chris Bill and Smith for nine years, been with him through Thick and Fink and considers him a friend. And you can hear, have a listen to this, you can hear the shock in his voice. It was the most brutal fight I've ever been

a part of. Horrendous to watch a friend fighter have to endure that, but there's very few fighters I've ever worked with that could endure that, and Chris Smith is the guy. And just to clear up what happened, Dana White, I'm told, said after about four rounds, there'll be no interviews.

So both Chris and Riziki have gone off standard to a hospital. Is that correct? Yes, yes. They're in a medical room. Chris, you know, he was compassed the whole way through. He was looking at him. He was responsive. He was tired.

He was tired because he was getting hit around the side of the head with absolutely. Honestly, I have not seen a puncher like that. In terms of Chris has been in my gym nine years. I've never seen him hit like that. You know, and it's like, it's an incredible testament to that man. Holy, I mean, he's not the well, he's not very well schooled, but, you know, you look at the likes of Carl Frotch or people that are just gifted with power,

and, you know, they can have, they can be limited in technique and find a way. And throughout that fight, I was worried he was going to find a way, he was a year. And every time the more Chris hurt him, the bigger he seemed to come back. I thought there were several times when Chris was to a punch away, but then the bell went, or he did come back.

But he did look this, pressed in the corner at the end. I couldn't see from where I was sitting. He, you know, I don't want to speak out of a turn, but I was looking at him and he, and his body went limp twice. And they had oxygen into him. Horrendous scenes.

You know, Chris is elated. So happy with this performance. So happy with the win. And I'm looking across and saying, Chris, come on, we've got to start zoning in this guy. He looks like he's in a bad way. And that was Chris at the end of fourth and fifth. When he'd already hurt with Zickey,

so many times, but he was still there? Was he talking to you in the corner? Was he a shock as all of us? I said, accuracy beats power. Accuracy and speed beats power. You can't go loading up with this guy. You've hit him with everything in the kitchen sink, and he's still standing there looking at you like a zombie.

Take your time. And you know, you've got to hit this guy often and right, not hard. And just finally, some international debut for Zoufa boxing and Dana White tonight. If he's not happy, he's a sad man. You know, that's a sad man. That is what you get with professional boxing. There's huge amounts of entertainment and MMA and UFC.

It's fast, it's explosive, but box it's grueling. It can be a grueling sport. And to launch it in the UK, there's no better man than Chris Smith. That's Shane there, basically, the sounding the same as you and I, still a bit in awe of what we've witnessed. Still trying to work out what we witnessed. I know one thing, Dana, as Shane said there, was with boxing, got an unbelievable night.

There was lots of stoppages tonight, but that particular fire was ridiculous. Let's try and just try and analyze what we saw. I know, so we know that... Take a breath. Yeah, yeah, take a breath, yeah, both of us. Zickey Cup was relentless, looking like a cross between something from The Terminator,

visually, and something like an old Jack Dempsey, the heavyweight from the 20s. He did have that kind of look about him. Used his head a lot, lost a point, I think, in the second round. And Bill and Smith did try and move his feet, Tash, but it was hard because the guy would literally get his head on his chin. Yeah, there's, listen, there's nothing worse than boxing at somebody else's piece.

And when someone's coming forward and trying to close the gap and they're throwing shots as they do it, whether he's square throwing hooks to the body and head, you've got a reply. So that means you're fighting when you don't want to. It means you're punching. No brewers. There's no rest.

There's no rest. How? He looked at Rositki after round three. like he was done I was thinking oh he was really brave in heaven he was I thought he was done and then we got another four round somehow we got another four rounds out of him

but not just any four rounds four rounds where you know they were competitive you know he put I think it was round five I actually give to him because he put Billam Smith under a lot of pressure so Billing Smith was looking like he had been in the fight he was in he wasn't disguising it he knew

you knew looking at Billem Smith that he was in a hard fight yeah I think they were both just thinking like when's it going to be over? When's it going to be over? When's it going to stop? Well, it ended at the end of the 7th. Chris Bill and Smith now will go away. It's standard.

He'll go to hospital. Did we see enough tonight to judge, and it seems like a really harsh judgment to make with him being the back of an ambulance going to hospital as we speak. But did we see enough tonight to give us an indication of how much Chris Bill and Smith's got left or against an opponent like that

are all bets an analysis off? I don't think you can judge it any. anything off that performance. Chris Bill and Smith did what he had to do. To get the win and you had to fight hard, which is something we know we can do anyway. But there was extra good, extra glory in there because I've never seen nothing like it. Yeah, what Steve Collins said that, you said that, Shane McGuigan said that, and I definitely agreed. It was quite extraordinary. Now, a couple of weeks ago when I had you on Tash and you were brilliant, people said to me, but Bunchy, why didn't you ask her what she's doing?

I said, because I didn't. So I've got to ask you. What you're doing? Obviously you're working for Sky tonight. Will you box again? I mean, you didn't get the Katie Taylor job. I thought you might get the Katie Taylor job. Generally, I thought you were contender for that. I thought my name was in the hat.

I think it was for a little bit. It turns out. It was a massive hat. It was a stetson. The bat was bigger than I thought. With a lot of other people in it. So it's like one of them magician ones where people keep pulling out. But yeah, I haven't made the decision officially.

I'm happy. I'm seeing what life like outside of the ring before. I make that and I enjoy being outside and commentating on everyone else's mistakes instead of analysing my own. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. And I don't know if Zickey's got a sister, but if he's got a sister, you're not fighting her, right?

Definitely not, definitely not, unless I've got a Sledge-hammer in my pocket. Hey, Sledge-hammer might not be enough to be perfectly honest with you. Listen, Tash, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thanks very much indeed. So that was the end, that was the last fight and it was brutal and it was bloody.

Before then, there were several other knockdowns, and other fights that ended in the first round, the second round. Someone had his shoulder dislocated by a right hand, and he couldn't continue. The place was absolutely packed out with Chris Bill and Smith's faithful, the big, the Bournemouth Centre. Tell you what, I like this place. I like it when it's a Chris Bill and Smith night.

It was a special night, a brutal fight. A fight that anybody to witnessed it live will never forget, and anybody watching it on Sky will also never forget it. It was one of those fights. Thanks to Tasha Jonas for joining me. Thanks, obviously, it's Shane McGreg for talking to me. And thanks to Dana White, the boss man, for sitting down with me on Friday,

just inside from the sunshine and giving me 20 odd minutes of his time. I've been Steve Bunce, on the road, as usual. Extraordering. We were in Cairo a couple of weeks ago. We were at Wembley last week, and tonight we witnessed something quite ridiculous

in Bournemouth. I've been Steve Bunce, I've been around all week, and this has been 5 live boxing. So much sport today and all the goals as they go in, up and down the league. Live live sports.

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