5 Live Boxing with Steve Bunce - The Boxing Board Ep.3 | What is the greatest round in Boxing?

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

What is the greatest round in boxing history? Chairman Ade Oladipo is determined to find out as The Boxing Board returns for another passionate debate.Joining Ade are former WBO cruiserweight world champion and broadcaster Johnny Nelson, alongside comedian and boxing commentator Kevin “KG” Garry. Together, the board tackles four categories: the best round involving a British fighter, the best round since 2010, the best round in a championship bout and the best round in a non-championship bout.Can anything top the unforgettable ninth round of Gatti vs Ward? Where does Danny Williams’ remarkable one-armed comeback in round six against Mark Potter rank among British boxing’s greatest moments? And has there ever been a more explosive opening round than Hagler vs Hearns?Expect passion, unexpected takes and another classic story from Johnny “The Entertainer” Nelson.

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Be the first to listen to your favorite shows, like evil genius, good, bad billionaire, and You're Dead to Me, with a subscription to BBC Podcasts Premium on Apple Podcasts. You can also enjoy a range of our podcasts, ad free, with an Amazon music subscription. Welcome to the boxing board. I'm Adi O'Dipo, and I'm here to set

to once and for all, some of the biggest debate in boxing. This is the boxing board. What's going on, people? Welcome once again to the boxing board. I am your host. I am your chairman, Adelaidea. You should know who I am by now. It sounds arrogant, but it's true.

Today is a good one, because today we're going to do the best round in boxing. And as always, we break it down into four categories. The categories are as follows. Best round featuring a British fighter. Should be easy. Should be easy. Best round in a championship fight. There's too many to list, but we're going to get number one.

Best round in a non-champanship belt, even harder to list, but we're going to find number one. And best round since 2010. That's for you youngsters out there. Modern-day fights. Anyway, I have assembled the Avengers for this one. To my left. Who am I? Four.

Four, otherwise known as one of the main faces of British boxing over the last 30 years. from a cruiserweight world champion. Yes. And the man I look up to, one of the best pundits, speaks his mind, says what he wants. Johnny Nelson, ladies and gentlemen.

Herculee, Herculee, Weree, MBE.E? MBE. Oh, Herculees. Herculee. And, to my right, KG, the comedian.

I'm undefeated, by the way. I understand. I've just done yours. KG, the J.C. I'm undefeated. I've never fought. I never lost. Bro.

No. To my right. One of the funniest guys I know, as you can tell by the start of the show, actor, comedian, boxing enthusiast. Yes. The great Kiji, the comedian. All right, so you guys, this is how it works, right? So we're going to go around.

We're going to have our debates about various subjects. And Tom, our producer, who can be a bit biased, is going to pick the winner. But you at home, you judge who won. Listen to what I say properly, by the way. Listen to my argument properly, because I feel like I've been done. so I'm dirty on this show done day. Well, bias because I haven't picked you. Is that why?

Oh my good, man. I know he's cast parked. All right, here we go. So again, best round featuring a British fighter. Best round in a championship fight. Best round in a non-championship belt and best round since 2010. We're going to get about 45 seconds to make our argument and then we can have some fun and debate.

So, Kajie, you can go first on this one. Yes. When you say a round, Yeah. It's off the board for any of those categories. No problem. You can pick whatever category you want to go first in. The floor is yours.

45 seconds. Thank you. Now, let's not waste our time here. Best round featuring a British fighter, yeah? Yeah. We talk about the great days. We talk about wanting to love boxing, bringing us back nostalgia merchants.

There's a lot of them, yeah? Well, this fight offers us nostalgia. Lee Wood versus Conlon. Everything you're looking for in a fight, You're talking about falling through roads. You're talking about risking it all. You're talking about forget tactics. Forget what the corner is saying.

You're talking about a man that says, you know what, I could be winning this and I could dance away. Conlon could have saved himself, but he didn't do that. He said, you know what? People paid their hard-earned money. And I think it was a recession in times there as well. And he said, I'm going to give the people what they're looking for. They pay their hard-earned money in their hair.

And guess what? We risked it. And it was brilliant. There's no fight you can ring a bell There's no fight I'll ring the bell Because I'm confident No fight better You know I will say I was there for that one year

Yeah I was there for it Round 12 And from 11 you could see it From 11 you could see The tide was turning The tide was turning And even in the corner They're talking to they're talking to Colin

And saying hey listen It's almost done You can like we're home free He didn't listen to them He said I'm going out there And I'm still going to put on the show You're right, Adam Booth was in the corner saying, just box. Just box.

And he said, no, we want to fight because, you know what? We're Irish. You know, I was there, and that was the closest fight that resembled a football match that I've ever covered. There you go. Because that was the first time they segregated the fans. They literally had the forest fans on that side and the Irish fans on that side.

And I was like, this atmosphere is ridiculous. How loud was it? And I blame the fans for Michael Conlon. I know Lee Woods. Lee Woods has got, you know, he's grown from a boy into a man. And he showed Cohoners. He showed something about himself to say, you know what?

I didn't think you had that in you? I didn't think I was it. And he completely switched it around, but I think I've got something to beat it. Oh, go ahead. Danny Williams, Mark Potter. Danny Williams' shoulder came out. One arm.

One arm. He's getting beat up. He's struggling. He's struggling. He's going to jump in and stop him. He's thinking he went back to one corner, popped his shoulder back in. It was like watching a movie.

Popped his shoulder by King again. Danny Williams is struggling. Came back out again. Boom, shoulders down. The thing's down near his waist. His shoulder at bad. And Danny Williams with one hand. One hand, it was like, it was like a leap of faith.

boom, knock potter out, cold on the floor and everybody could see it so I understand what you're talking about heart, I understand what you talk about fond of the ropes, you got to understand, when you're seeing a half a man, shoulders's gone, he's struggling, he's almost, he's at death's door, he's almost done, and then boom, fight's over.

I'm going to say why that's untrue, and I love that fight. Oh, God, I love that fight. I've got to hear this. You can see his shoulder out. Yeah, that's all, that's fun. That's cool, that's incredible, actually. But you see, the thing about it is both fighters need to be in it.

Both fighters, both fighters, you just coming back and popping your shot. I don't want to say that easily, actually, because that's not an easy fate, yeah? But I'm saying that, it's got to be even. The reason why it's the best rounds is, wait, this is 50-50. He was in no chance of the fight. And then after he finds the puncher in the goods, we're talking about two men that say, you know what, we're meeting the middle of the ring and we're going to risk it. That's what you love.

That's exactly what you saw. You saw two guys in the ring and he's thinking even though I've got one arm even though he's thinking it's over for me I'm going to give you everything you're giving me

and more and Mark Potter was old and he's thinking he's going to stop him any minute now the referee kept jumping I'm willing to jump in and stop this fire

and then Danny he would not give up and any fighter had every excuse to say I'm done I'm out of it I'm sitting now Danny won

Danny's that guy remember Danny's the same guy that's the same guy that that's the same guy that's that's thinking I'm going to finish it in here so when Danny came back with that shot

it was like watching a movie oh alas this was Danny that was that fight it had emotion it needs to be equal we need to know the best things about fights

is when we talk about boxing we want the 50 50s when you set up a fight and he like I know he's gonna win like we watched a Fury fight recently did anyone believe that Fury was gonna lose that one but did you expect Danny to win

and that point when he showed out I did not expect Danny to win with a pop shoulder you are correct he is correct his chance to go once his shoulder had gone Round one round and extra one

Once his shoulder had gone You thought he's going to lose Just a matter of time The referee's against him Potter's beating him You thought this fight is done It's a done deal Then Danny got that shot

And took Potter on Potter's on the fourth Looking up thinking Who did that? Where did that come from? That's Danny William Look guys By the way Conlon Wood, good

Potter Oh hey hey Danny Williams Very good No good Very good Very good Very good

Very good Good, solid. Potter Williams. Okay. But let's be honest. The winner is Tyson Fury versus Deonti Warder 3, round 4. I thought you was going to bring with me then when he said the winner is? No, no, no.

The winner is Tyson Fury, Deontiweree. You cannot be serious. Tell us, explain it. Let me explain why. Firstly, it's a trilogy that I think people are forgetting. It's probably going to go down one of the best trilogies we've seen between heavyweights. Phenomenal trilogy. It really is something special.

Deonti Wada gets flatlined in round three. Everyone's expecting him to come out to round four and Tyson Fruy just to close the show. No one even really wanted to see that fight. Everyone wanted to see Fury, AJ, if we remember. Yeah. Deonti Wilder is circling. He's circling. Fury's bullying him.

They're going back and forth. They're trading. Deontiwalder lands a right hand that literally puts everyone else to sleep. Fury's fat wobbles down the side of his belly. Do you remember? It's slow motion. It wobbles. Literally reverberates down the side of him.

It's over. It's never over with Tyson Fury. He gets back up. He is throwing lever at Deontois. Wilder lands another one. Fury goes down again. Everyone thinking, it's over. What does Fury do? Rises again and then they're trading. Nothing will ever beat

heavyweights going at each other because that's not what's supposed to happen. It's supposed to happen with the small boys in the February division. It's supposed to happen. You asked about two going back and forth, right? They went back and forth. I like what you done there. You tried to get me. You're going to the end. You want to the end. You want everything. You want a big fight. You don't get bigger than Fury versus Wilder 3. You don't get bigger and you don't get bigger than knockdowns. You've got knockdowns, you've got drama, you got intensity, you got Fury Rising, like The Undertaker, round four.

Brilliant. Now, I'm going to say you're in a... Thank you, so we won't. I'm going to say something that you've done here. I'm going to say that you could have been paid off. This feels like you being a company man and you're mentioning fights that you've been working in because it could be, it could be

because I can't believe he's come to the floor and said this. This is not the fight that we no one wanted Fury Wilder 3. No, but we But we all loved it. But we all loved it. I didn't want it. I didn't want it.

I didn't want it. I actually liked somebody else to be in common. Nobody wanted this. Nobody wanted this. If we're being honest, we were being honest, we was waiting for something else. And that's the best thing. You know when you don't want it and then you get it and then it delivers and you're like, thank God we got it.

Fury World of Three was the best of the trilogies. Okay. Round four was the best round of the trilogies that That's why it's the best round in boxing. It was a good story, but the best round, you know, is a great story. Because you thought he was out, you thought, was he up at 10 or was he up at 9? It was up at 9. Whatever.

That's the argument. Have you ever seen a punch that's wobbled someone's body? Not because it's his body type. The end of the day, as a big man, any punch is going to wobble the body. I'm talking from the biggest side of the canvas, bro. I'm actually the only one here qualified to tell you, that's not a big deal. That's not a big deal. We're going to move.

Things will move. So we're not using the wobbling of the unused fat. Right now, I like what you try to do, yeah. Your fight is a good one. Your fight is a great one. Classico. My fight is the best one. You know how you felt.

You know how the room felt. It felt, you're talking about it. I know how I felt in yours in the last 30 seconds. The two minutes 30 before that, not much. who's going to be who is voting on this? Is it the youngsters, does I remember that? Or the ones that are a little bit older, do you remember Mark Pottencourt?

Yeah, that's the issue. Who's watching? Who's voting? Yeah. So if you're talking to the youngsters, oh, God, I remember that. Yeah. Oh, God, I even, I can't remember that one. Will they remember this one?

I love Lee Woodham. I love Lee Woodham. Scrap yours is done. No, what you've done is done. You've already killed his own argument. He's already killed his own argument. I'm just saying to you're saying to the best, I'm just going to make people go on YouTube

and they think, oh my God, you want Nelson. Nelson, just come up with some knowledge that I forgot all about. Oh, yeah, Danny Women's X, Y, Z. This is the whole point of this. Can I quickly chucking one that we didn't mention? Go on. Because a one that made me, like, honestly, needy dropped my glass.

Yeah. George Groves putting down Frotch in the first round of their fight. Oh, good shot. That was a first round of all first rounds. Because you know why? That was the unexpected of unexpected. No one expected that. Almost everyone expected it to be easy work for Carl, right?

And then George Groves lands that. By the way, that was Carl Frotch who doesn't go down. And that was Carl Frotts, who was on a dance show in the built-to-the-fight because this fight is that easy. That was Carl Frotts who didn't want to fight him. We wanted to fight Cesar Sheds of Junior in Las Vegas, saying, why am we boxing this? That was the fight.

And let's not forget the studio reaction with David Hay and Amir Khan. They're eating. Because no one's expecting it to go back to the studio. It's crazy. We have to go to producer Tom. Producer Tom. Who won the round producer Tom? Tom.

Tom. Tom. Yeah. I got the train. Tom, Tom, honestly, think about Wilder Fury. That's not the best round in that trilogy. It's round 12 in the first fight. There you go.

And when it gets up, it's round 12. That's the most famous round in that trilogy, that's the first fight. So on that basis, I'll go, okay, G. Thank you very much. Mother of God. And I knew he made a mistake. I knew he, I realized he made a mistake.

The Undertaker get enough and you didn't say that. Nah. Come on. But I'll save it for later. I'll save it just in case out of time. Yeah, yeah, anyway. 1-0. All right, Johnny, the floor is yours.

Phil three. I'm going for... So we've gone... Best Round and Featuring the British Fight. That's off the table. So now it's three other categories. So best round in the championship fight, best round in a non-champanship belt.

I've got... I've got... I'm trying to think which one do I pick. I'm going to pick... And I was at both of them live. So I'm going to go for one because I understand what I'm in the background. I understood what I'm in the build to it.

I'm picking championship round, round three. Kevin Kelly, Nassim Hamid, Madison Square Garden. I remember driving through New York, and there was a big billboard post, and Nas was on it, and we're in the car, and Nas was like, do you're a bit nervous? I'm like, Nas, you're nervous? What are you talking about? He knew. Mama kept saying, I'm going to smoke your boots.

And we were thinking, what's that me? What do you mean by that? Then when Nas got in there, Kelly was on it, he was a proper young thinking, I want to show this boring Brit, what he's about. Brits can't fight. Both of them, both of them hit the cameras. And now only he just dropped. I mean, fell on their arms, fell on the back,

hard, knockdowns. And at the time, you fought this invincible Nassim Hamid, you thought this guy can't be broken, and then all of a sudden you saw a possibility, he got hurt, he got hurt, but what did he do? He dug in deep,

and it was one of those fights where he thought, oh my God, oh my God, and when you seat personally, you sit up close and personal, it had technique, he had talent, he had speed, it had power, he had everything,

and he had a championship on the line. You know, I ain't gonna lie? It's a beautiful choice. Yes, sir. He picked up that pen. I've never seen a pendrop before. I've never seen a pendrop. That's a good one.

A pendrop's a new one. Pendra's a new one. Doesn't that be impacted on Mike. He's got a side. It's interesting. The pen drop. I hang like, that was a great one because he's right.

Kevin Kelly had this kind of, these Brits can't fight. His Brits can't fight. Who is this kid with arrogance? World wide? Yeah, that was the fire that sort of introduced Naz to the American audience. And you remember the group,

this sound which sign it was. Everybody and anybody was there. Brad Pitt was in there. audience, Michael Jackson's in the audience. They were all there. This is how much the world want to see this, Princess I'mad come in. And this is the build-up, the excitement. They understood this was an equal fight.

And then it delivered. And it delivered. Yeah, it delivered. You tell me you got something like that. I'm next. It's not you. Oh, you're going to do it. You're going to kill me.

No, I'm not going to. I'm not going to kill me. I'm a bit of a hipster. I just like sometimes, you know, when you think of the most exciting fighters in the world, for me, there's one country that produces the most exciting fighters on planet Earth, and it's Mexico. Everyone says it, the

Mexican style of fight, and even non- Mexican say, I fight the Mexican. Ginoleu Kovkin built his crew, saying, I give you Mexican style of fighting. What's better than one Mexican? Two. I know where you're going. Eric Morales, Marco and Tono Barreira, their first fight, 2000,

round five. Both of these guys champions. Superbantanweight division, unification, and these, pardon my French, we can bleak this out. These motherfucked want to kill each. because they were throwing They hated each other. They had a fight in a buildup.

They were swinging at each other in the buildup. Round five, it was the most Mexican of Mexican fights where they are just swinging from the very first second. Even it went 303. Because the bell went and they still started throwing

a couple of punches. I've never seen around Eb and Flo where you think, okay, Morales is going to stop him. Then Barreira fires back. And what I liked about it as well was Barrear was slightly older and Morales was the kid coming through.

And it was something about this, I'm Barrera. How dare you even think you can compete with me? These guy used to play football together. They were friends with each other for a while until they got matched up. And obviously, they had three fights with each other. All three were incredible. But I think Morales-Barrera, if you just want a fight for pure action, no knockdowns, just two guys trying to land full level, no technique, just, hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

It's the greatest round, championship round, I think we've seen. I'm going to go back to my point. It depends on your audience. I'm watching it. The one that I said, does that one. You got a Briton vault. You got a Britain involved.

The Briton round is good. Yeah, yeah. The Brit round is good. But what I'm saying, it's relatable. You've got something relatable who I'm thinking, yeah, I recognize that. But again, as I said, guys,

we always say it. Come on, everyone knows this. Everyone talks about the Mexicans. There is a Mexican style of fighting. So I'm not giving you one. I'm giving you two. And I'm giving you two of the greatest Mexican fighters of all time

in their people. going at each other, toe for toe. Yeah, I believe... I love what you love. Daddy, you're going to do a pent drop as well? Oh, you go? Wow. All right.

You see what I've got right now for you guys, yeah? Marvin Haggala. Tom, you already know. As soon as I say Hagler, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, as soon as I say, Hagelah, that's been written. As soon as I say, listen, as soon as I say these guys,

But you didn't say it You didn't bring it to the other You didn't bring it And now This is, I know it's my 45 I believe it's my 45 Is it There's no important

Going on with a conversation Do you know what's how great this fight is Do you know how great this fight is? I don't know what you was thinking Because I was worried I'm looking at these two Because it's obvious It's not that obvious

Because you didn't mention it So as we go into this one Yeah I forgot What's crazy is Two men Staring that's men Every single game in my life.

I'm watching it last night. Two men staring at each other and you can feel the visible anchor. Do you know how great this fight was? Look at the feetwork of the referee. The referee is better than fighters now. The referee's on his toes. He's making sure he's in the distance. I've never seen in the first round.

I still haven't scored this. You not haven't scored this. Who won the first round? I feel ashamed of myself. Who won the first round? Nobody knows because you can't score it. There's no point scoring it. You just said I can't believe why I was so.

Yeah, but, but come on, man. Say something better. That's just not fair. Listen to me. I didn't know that was on the table. Of course it's over table. Everybody can't. It's like saying,

come on. But you did, go better. I can't. No, I can't either. That's the one. Should I take that off? Yeah, take up. I don't want to be bored, but I'm getting to be bored.

There's two board men at the table. Oh, we're all for. Damn. Damn. That's just so good. Can I mean to you? That's a lot. That's the round, isn't it?

Johnny, Johnny, it's the round. You know what you know? There was a white flag to wave. That was a sneaky move. Everybody knows that, but it's just, I didn't think we could pick that. But then you, but even if we go back, though, if we go back to that one.

You know, I will say, though, I think mine had more action. Ah? I think Barera Morales had more action. More action than Hagler Hans. Are you mad? I'm on inside for this one. You need to remind yourselves.

I remember I have myself. I keep watching that. every day, how many times have we re-watch that? Sorry, I'm not even on his side. We're not saying. We can be in this one. Did you look watch that? Like, did you watch it?

Constantly. I watch it to this day, at least two times in the week. Did you watch it like, live? He's trying to age. I want to ageing you. I want to ageing you. I just wanted to know because I'm upset that I didn't get to witness that in the moment.

I've gone back on what I did. And it's like, I don't even know what they were thinking. And you know, you know, the crowd. By the way, on Com's, Sugar Ray Leonard. So all of them were there. Everyone was there. Everyone in the front row thinking this can't last long. Look at what we're doing.

It went only three rounds. You're picking him up. Nice, the great. Thank you, man. Thank you. Fair play. Because it was the intro. The intro wasn't that great.

So I had to get something back. It's the greatest round. Yeah. Thank you, man. It's the greatest round, isn't it? I'm not even taking a round off. We're in boxing. He's coming out with us.

You two, Fox. Four amateur fights. Four amateur fights. I've still like to be it. I've still like to defeat you guys. No, it's the, it's the greatest round. Can I just add something? Add he put this on his Instagram last night of Hagler and Harns.

He didn't mention it last night. I can't believe it. I did it yesterday too. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen. I don't know what you're thinking. I thought I was cooked. When he started talking, I said he's going to say it because there's only one right answer in this.

Even if you go on YouTube right now, I'm typing greatest round in boxing history. I can't even disagree with you. And these two will come up. Yeah. Even AI knows. You know in fights like that, Johnny? I'm disappointed.

Is it a case of Herns just throwing away the game plan and saying, you know what, let's just do this? They both did. Because that couldn't have been the game plan. No, no, they both did. No fighter in this world is going to come out and start a fight like that. Hegelah refused to take a backward step. Hearns, you know, Hans, he's long-lanking self. He's trying to throw his shots.

He's gassing out. I'm taking him out. So he thought, he thought, brawn over brains. He's thinking, I'm having this. no matter what. He's curly perms all over the place. My man's tired. This is the first round.

These two are on each of, I thought, there's no way in a millionaires. These guys think he's going to go past a halfway mark. And the way they fought, Hald got hit, Hegel got hit, Hegel got hit, even when he's tired against the back row and the first round,

and he's still sitting in shots. It's the best, best fight ever in my life. I can't, but I'm ashamed of myself. It's okay. It's okay. It's not okay, man. It's okay, man.

We make mistakes. make mistakes in this life. I think we're going to go KG. But Tom, no contest, KG. Hagler Hans. Sorry, man. Tom, Tom, Maranas Barraara. Stop this, man. Two Mexicans going to war, Tom. It is, but we're talking about like the four kings of the 80s. We're talking about Hagler and Hans. Two of the greatest Mexican fighters of all times, Tom. You see, two of the greatest Mexican fighters, unification fight. It's a close second, my friend. Thank you. I'll take second. Naz is third. Naz is third. Naz's third.

They're here to work. All right, here we go. This is. This is a second. All right. All right. This is Aday's first time to go first. So I've clearly won this round. Best round in the non-championship belt. I don't believe a title was on the line here. I stand to be corrected. But if it wasn't, then I've won this round. I am talking round nine between Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti.

Uh-huh. Round nine, it was fight of the year. In fact, they fought three times and two of their fights were fight at the year. Round nine is brilliant. And by the way, not to add to the round, but it had, for me, the best ensemble of people broadcasting the fight.

Manuel Stewart, Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant. That's the Avengers, right? You can't get better than that. You also can't get better than Jim Lampley saying, Frank, you can stop the fight now, Frank. Basically, you've given us enough. He's talking about the referee, Frank Cappuccino. This fight just delivered the round.

Early in the round, Mickey Ward sent Artura Gatti to the canvas with a body shot. It's over. Of course it's over. Of course it isn't, because the funder got back up and he's throwing back and he hurts Mickey Ward and Mickey Ward hurts him and they're going and they're trading

and that's when they're saying you can stop the fight now it delivered and then some so much so they ran it back they ran it back and they ran it back again it's honestly it's the greatest round in a non-championship belt and we knew it would be Irish Mickey Ward versus Arturo Thunder

may so rest in peace Gatti I think the greatest round that we've seen in a non-championship belt Round 9. If you've not seen it, go and see it. What's a good one? I've got to give you that one. Stop it, Frank. You can stop it anytime. I should go second to give Johnny a chance. Oh, you mean?

What is this about, man? Justin Cain, you know, download the data, like music. Download the data. Download the data. Download the data. Download the data. Download I give you. I'd give you some historical fact behind the story. That's why I'm not involved. He's good. He's good, but I think I'm going to go somewhere right now. I'm getting somewhere right now. Give me a story behind you. Don't just give me some.

There's a story. There's a storyline, yeah. So I don't think ever in boxing we've ever seen a referee say, I believe in the fighter more than the corner does. We've never seen that in our lives. Where's he going to? Do you know he's an actor? So he can give you a story.

He can give you a story. Graham L. Yeah, yeah. You're looking and it doesn't make sense. Round two, yeah? It's not going well. He's been down already. He's been down early.

Now we're in round two and he's getting beat up. He's getting hurt. Katzidis is giving him the work. Corner says, voom, throws the towel in. Referee kicks it out. The referee says, get out of here. Are you mad?

I've never seen that my life. I've never seen, I've never seen someone dashed the towel out. And then, you know what? What's beautiful by that moment? As he throws it out, I feel like it gives Graham. Like, you believe in me? Yeah, you believe in me, boss. You're no even meant to believe in me.

One, throws the greatest punch. And he does the skanky leg. It's like he's momentarily knocked out. It doesn't even make sense. He's momentarily knocked out. And now it's almost like everyone, I feel like the referee, if he could, he would have turned to look at the corner

and said, see what I'm saying. But he was still in the mix. He was still in the mix. But why this fight is great and exciting is, why I can see this, even in this when he does get wobbled, He recovers. Yep.

He recovers and he's still throwing, and they're both throwing big shots. But then you finished around and say, this could have been over. We could have missed this greatness had it not been for the referee believing in him more. Great story. It's a great story. That's my story. It's interesting. It's interesting.

Let me chop off for these. Sorry, sorry, so we can't pick this up. I'm sorry, sorry. I come to work today. I come to work today. That was good. But it's not free. He's not having free.

No, no, he's not having three. He's not having free. It's not having three. It's not better than Gatti Wood. It's good. You got a field. It's good, but it's not better than Gatty Wood. Listen to the story.

The story's good. Go on Johnny. Best round, non-champership fight. I've got a story behind it. Round 12. Derichuzora. Dylan, wait, wait. I did the gloves off with these two.

Oh, this is shit. This is shit. Blu-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-l-b-b-l-l-h. I forgot he did this. I forgot he did this. This is so true. Do I need to carry on? Let's stick together.

So let's stick together. Now Derek, now, Dillon was upset that I told his story. Dylan was upset that I told his story. And I told it in a way that he didn't know anything about it, but he did. So Dylan, if you're watching this, a big respect. So he came to the gloves are off. We're inside the place at Sky. He's dark in the room like this.

Della White sits down. Derek should have to sit down. And what they should have cameras on, watching them as a walk in, just watching them. Just do that before the show starts. So Dylan and Derek, they're on it. And Dylan's saying, you're a donkey. You're promoting rides you like a donkey.

And Derek started to get that Madman rock. You know what you was going on? I've seen that. I've seen that. I've seen that. And I sit in the chair thinking, if one of them slings, I want it to be far and far away that it whizzes past me

and gets the other. And then on the rock, Derek grabbed a glass. We don't have glasses on the table anymore. Don't you have water on the table One flung it at him Then jumped across the table As he jumped across the table He bit Dylan's chest

And laughing at the same time Now if you've ever heard the man scream Dylan's screaming Because he's biting Dylan's trying to punch me his head And Derek's laughing at the same time And Dylan's stop Punch me

He's going mad and we're trying to I'm not wild stuff There's water all over the floor On the water's spilt We're trying to drag him apart Big Scott, the cameraman, he's got the camera and he's got the camera, still in his pan and pulling him for. Pulling the legs apart, I'm thinking,

why I'm tired of here. So I went to door, I went, open the door, security son and all he said, I'm containing, I said, no, what is in here, man? So we managed to drag him out, drag him apart. Derek's just laughing. Dylan was fuming, like an 11-year-old. He was going mad, got him out of the room,

got him out of the room. He was outside the door going mad. His boys, you could hear, all them run, they're trying to run down to get to the studio because they know where it was. Dylan was fuming. You could hear Derek inside there

just chuckling like it was nothing. He lost it. Who's a donkey now? And he lost it. And so, so he's, Dylan's voice came outside trying to get into the studio

and said, boys, listen to me, boys, listen to me, let it go, just let it go. I don't know what his name.

Might have been Zeke or something like that. Zeke looked at him and Dylan's voice changed like it was a, some cartoon villain, get him. I'm,

where that comes from? I went, yo, deal, listen to me. Look, Dilian, call him, stop it. Dylan, boom.

turned around, marched off. And it just, it was like, someone just snatched daylight and it come back again. Then then about 20 minutes later, Derek came out, the studio laughing. Slapsed someone his backside, he walked out, walked off. So we get to the fight now. So we all know what's happened.

Because police were called, you know? They were going to stop doing... You won. They were going to stop doing... The gloves are off in the sky because of what happened there. And so they were going to stop doing it and take it to a hotel. But the only reason why they didn't,

that means pos is to... Good to come. Now, only two people can come for the gloves are off show. So when that comes to the fight, we know the buildup. We know what's going with it. We know this is serious. It's not like fakery. This is serious.

So when it came to the fight, these guys were willing to die in the ring. Yeah. Round 12 to round 12, two big heavy men like this. And then you know what? After all of that, the fight just was, that fight was frightening. To this day, to this day, they don't like each other. Tom, I mean, look, Tom, Tom, Tom, there are some good rounds in there. Katzidis, Grameau, Gatti Ward, Tom.

Forget all the story, Gatti Ward. I thought you had this in the bag. Me? I thought you had it in the bag, Eddie. Say my name, baby. And then Johnny Nelson was in the trenches, and he came up with a story like that. He gets the round.

The storyline does, you should have won. One second. Gatty Ward should win. You should win. But the story from Johnny Nelson gets it back for him. One second, one second. People at home. People at home. Are we talking rounds or stories?

Nah, I ain't a like Johnny. I ain't like Johnny. was an incredible story. If it weren't Johnny Nelson, we both walked off when you said it. As soon as you said, gloves off, both walked off. You said, I'd come back

and redeem myself. This guy's never bops with these bold ends. Unbelievable! I've been harassed you. No, call us on board. It's harassment. I'm about to make great.

And it's the BBC as well. You can't say things like that. It's the BBC. You can't fake things like that. All right. Final one. And you are to go first, Johnny. Which one?

Best rounds. since 2010. So we're talking the modern greats. Best rounds since 2010. Remember all the rounds you said so far are off the table, people. So you might have to dig into the archives. I'm getting to the archives. I've got just had a backup one. Yeah, I've, I'm happy to go first if you want to think. I'd like you to go first. Can I go first? Can I go first? All right. I'm looking for you too. So when, what? I've got it. Can I go first? Can I go ahead. I might not win this round. I'm happy.

I've got first once. Of course you went first first. Oh yeah, I did. Sorry. Now, in terms of a round, this is more for you boxing hipsters out there, that are you people that like style and substance over just violence. This round, I was ringside for, was two of the best pound-for-pound boxers in the world with different styles finally meeting. I am talking about Bivel, buturbia of one, round seven. I was there for it, so I'm telling you now.

We had, no, no, no, we had two different styles. You had the boxer, Russian. against a mean force puncher Russian. And it was a case of whose starls. But you give me that one second. Can you put the camera on his face, please? Why is he doing that? Because it wasn't excited for you.

It's a rubbish. It's an incredible round. You got given a jacket and that's what changed your whole opinion. As soon as he gave you that jacket, you've been bought. We don't know what you're talking about. You know it wasn't that good. It was phenomenal. I was there.

Watch it. Go back and watch it. Because you were there. I was there. I'm telling you now, it was two guys with, are you talking pound for pound number three versus pound for pound number five and it delivered. Bivel, Berturbia rounds.

Going back and watch. You like violence. We, we, we, we, we do. I want substance. I want boxing ability. No, we want violence. We want violence. We want violence.

We just want the best round. You don't have to be violence. No, we want violence and blood. To be the best. Oh, you want violence and blood. Is it my turn? Not yet. He's not.

What's right? Because you all say good enough. I'll throw it away. Throw it away. You're not going to tell me you're coming here with Bivel. Is that what you did? One second. Did I just say,

Kylie Minot. Sharon Stone. I said, Bibble, but turbia. For boxing enthusiasts, you know you want to look at the footwork. You want to look at it. Yes, yes.

Yeah. For them, for them. That's not enough. No, that's not enough. We're talking we want to bring in the casuals. Come on, beyond. When it's a big fight, the casuals are watching. Yeah?

We're talking about trying to excite the casuals, right? And my boys don't do it. No, they do it, but I'm saying it's not enough. You want something that's going to move you like you've never been moved before. And I'm going to say, can I go? Go on. Go, go.

Go, go. Go, go. I'm gonna go with something that I'm surprised you didn't say. And it's a British classic, yeah? No, no, remember, this is sensitive. Oh, yeah. It's a classic. Fabio Woodley, Frasier Clark, round 10, yes, yes.

One of the best, it is fight of the year, I believe, fight of the year. I believe fight of the year. That's all right. That's all right. All right. Go on, go on, run away with it. You know, these men, yeah, you look at Fabio Woody's face. Oh, you want to see blood.

That's what it is. I'm not just blood. I'm saying, talking about two men, because you see Frasier Clark in that one, he's trying to establish it. He's establishing a jab. And he's really working off the jab. Fabio Woodley says,

which he's got the dog in him. Not today, big man. I'm going to, you know, the massive overhand, yeah? And now we got Frasier Clark doing the skanky leg. But he doesn't, he doesn't stop there. He finds something deep within him,

which is incredible. I even believe that Frasier Clark was going to win the rematch. Obviously, But then what we saw was two men point on the line, forget about IQ, forget about everything, and just fight. What's it, once it, what's it? Why are we forgetting about IQ? No, no, look. Why are we forgetting about IQ?

Like, Dick, like, like, so that means we could have two men falling at the back of a pub and just go for it. They don't need glasses. Don't you want to watch that sometimes? Sometimes. Don't you want to watch that. Let's be honest. We want to see someone again. That means you're going to be talking about Wilder and Chisora.

You might as well you call you. Yeah, yeah. We gave you the Chisora. To be fair. Sometimes you do want chicken and chips, not steak. Are you telling me that fight didn't move you? You were moved. It was interesting.

You were moved. You couldn't even wait for number two. I'll give you one that's going to move you. Go on. Go on. Katie Taylor, Amanda Serrano. Katie Taylor, April 2020. First fight.

That was the first fight. Round five. Now, you just told me, so all of a sudden we've got all these fights were dragon, my left out of sending it. You got these two ladies and they were falling into each other,

but in each other, punching each other, fighting each other, not letting go. It's like, oh my God. Even if you weren't into female boxing, you thought, what the hell? That was five the year.

I was there. Why did I not tell the story? Why would you not say that? I don't know, man. That's when you could have done well. I could have done you as well. Whoa. I was there.

I was there. I was there. What's it about that? Tell us the story. I was there. You know it's bad of people, isn't it? It was bad than people.

Tell us the story. It was right. It was right. It was right. But you know, it's very similar to, Mick Conlon versus Lee Wood I remember going into the venue Give me some background of it

So I was with Ak, you know, Ak and Barack Right, yeah Act's Puerto Rico Lovely guys So Act was selling Amanda Serrano Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican Puerto Rican's got in there early and Ack was telling me

I'm telling you now they're going to drown out the Irish I said brother, you don't understand the Irish are different They're in the pubs right now Wait till they get out of the pubs and then they make their way in Pure Guinness

Pure Guinness And again they segregate in it So they're Puerto Ricans on one side The Irish on the other To be fair to the Puerto Ricans, they put up a good show. They're loud. And then Katie made her walk in. And it was almost, I don't know, Ricky Hatton-esque,

Connor McGregor-esque, you know what I mean? She's an idol. That type of noise. That type of noise. And when they started throwing down, it was ridiculous. There was no back foot. There's no loser in this fight for me. That was the closest of the trilogies, right?

Katie's swinging. Katie got hurt in that round. Somehow she doesn't go down. Came back with her drunk self. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was like the legs bending. Oh, she's gone, and then she just finds something.

This girl, she was out of this world, and this is why you've got to rate her amongst all the best. So you're talking about the best round. You're talking about the best. Come on, talk to me. You know the thing as well? Because they know it's two minutes. They go hell for level.

Yes. Because they know there's two minutes. So you get two minutes of pure action, and that's what they did. So, um... He's even shy. Ding ding ding. Give me a ding ding. You know what?

No, let's go, let's go, Tom. He's won it. Well, one second. Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, producer. What was yours again? Fabio Woodley, Fraser Clark. And it was brilliant. Bibalberturb.

Bipo. Bertrbittorbio. What are you saying, Tom? What are you saying? Johnny Nelson. No contest, Bibble Berturb. Did you say. Johnny Nelson.

Oh, he's done it. Katie Taylor and Manda Serrano. Like a phoenix out of the fire. He's done well there. Don't mention it. Oh, man. I was up on the score cards. You see, you know, when you did this with Hague of Hagerhans.

in that phrase? Yeah. And as soon as I mentioned, he went, oh, you all did what we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the fight, though. I feel so ashamed that you got that.

Can you have a tell you? So what's the score? It's 2-2. I almost thought it needs to be a tie break between you. Well, it needs to be a rematch. All right, Tom, as we wrap up here, in terms of the overall picks, who's won based on overall?

So it's two apiece between KG and Johnny. Obviously, I've got zero, but that doesn't matter. Remember, it's not about. the scores it's about taking part taking part remember that kids taking part is important

got it time KG came out of the gates he did well Johnny came back and redeemed himself but both you and Johnny Addy you forgot about Hagleherns KG came up with the ultimate round in boxing

so I think because of that our winner today is KG alright All right All right I feel so people are changing the world made by All right

Yeah Because he had been the best one He just transitioned into In 1970s gospel You know what to be fair Johnny We're being brutally honest It was

Like that is the best rounding box in history Because he had got nothing better to do With his life That's why And he haven't scored it Go home and try and say he won the first round. You can't. It's difficult to score.

You can't. You won't even be able to do it. It's difficult to score. When you think about it. After all these years. Yeah. I don't ever remember a first round, and this is the beauty of it. It's the first round. Yeah.

Between two killers and both of them say, let's have it. Normally the first round, the field out round, right. That's what they say, Johnny. The feel that round. They're having a look at each other. These guys are like, I can't even go through. You're right. You're right.

And I feel ashamed. You shouldn't know what that one is me. It's okay. You know, in winning, it's part of life. There has to be winners, has to be losers, you know. I'm glad that I've just had a day like this. Again, you guys, I look up to you guys. There you go.

Best round in boxing. We've decided who won via Tom the producer. But the most important people, are you at home? You decide who won. And by the way, don't worry about the scores being 2, 2 and me 0 because I had some incredible rounds there. If you really look into it, Gatty Ward, Morales, Berera, Bivalberturvy, don't listen to KG. Don't listen to KG.

I don't want to say thank you to my guest, Johnny Nelson. And KG. KG. The winner. The winner. The winner. And the winner. And the winner.

It's the teaming. But again, again, kids at home, taking part as important. Taking part as important. Taking part as important. No winners, no losers in life. Just take part. We'll see you on the next one. Get more with BBC Podcasts.

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