83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff - Episode 364: Ask Eric Anything 03.07.25

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

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And we are joined, of course, by the hostess with the mostus. Wait, did I say that right? Ladies and gentlemen, the Hall of Famer himself, your friend in mine, Eric Bischoff, Eric, how are you, sir? Brother, I am just, I am blissful. There you go. That describes it really, really well. Lusful.

What's got you in such a good mood today? So much, honestly. But that's a different show. But this is just so much good stuff. going on and physically I feel great. I promise I won't dive into a lot of detail in this, but since you kind of open the door, not even knowing you did,

but I was hoping you would. You know, I'm on the cornerboard diet, right? I'm having a blast with it. I've been on it for about a year, a little over a year, but I blocked off 90 days before my birthday. Her birthday's May 27. So I just worked backwards. I said, okay, for 90 days,

I am going to work out as hard as I physically can. I am, in a logical way, you know, with a program. And I'm going to stick 100% to a counterboard diet. And I'm going to try something a little different. And it has nothing to do with anything but amino acids, believe it or not. It's really, really, really simple. But it's also really, really, really effective. So I want to see.

I want to see what's possible. And I'm so freaking vain that I wouldn't lay even. take a before picture. I just wouldn't. It's one of the things that made me a little uncomfortable going to to signings that I was always trying to find a way to people come and expect you to see the guy

that they used to see on TV and, you know, not that guy anymore. And I'm always aware of that. So anyway, I said, long so I said, you know what? I'm just going to kick it into overdrive. Just to see what's physiologically possible at this stage. And I've been working out, you know, for a while.

And I'm just having an absolute class with. Now, part of that and one of the reasons for that, all that buildup, so this just doesn't come, you know, rando out of nowhere, is a part of this whole process, this deep dive I'm doing, and most I'm doing it for energy and focus, believe it or not. That was the catalyst. That's what got me going down in this rabbit hole.

I wanted to be mentally as clear and sharp and have as much mental endurance as I could, Because that's what we do here. All the stuff you and I are working on together and individually and together. It's all creative, whether it's creative business or creative storytelling. Same thing. You've got to work that muscle. So anyway, I kept hearing about these ice paths.

And I said, no, I mean, I try the showers a couple of times. I'm just too much. I can't do it. I'm too much of a pussy. It's not happening. But then the other day, I thought it was down to like 25 degrees. I thought, you know, I feel like running some sprints. I used to love running sprints.

And I grabbed the, I put on a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and my running shoes. And I went outside 25 degrees at about 6.45 in the morning. And I'm out running wind sprints in a t-shirt. In fact, I took my t-shirt off about halfway through, do it or not. and I got in a house. First of all, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be in my head. The night before I was going to go, oh, why did I really do this? This is crazy.

Anyway, I'll get to the end of this because it's cool as hell. I got in the house, and I got hit by a wave of endorphins and experienced something I've never experienced in my life. It's so awesome. So now I'm hooked on endorphins. And I'm running outside of the court. My neighbors think I'm nuts. That's the funniest part.

Your neighbors might be right. You might actually be nuts. But we asked our live studio audience here. And 75% of fans think that Eric was right yesterday. But the new heel version of John Cena should be bald with no bright colors. What do you think about that, Eric? You still stand by that? We even saw some mock up, some AI photography.

where people were sort of guessing, what could it look like? And I saw a bald Sina, I saw a Sina in like a TKO shirt. I saw that. That was kind of cool. I was reposted that, but I want people to think I'm pushing it, right? Right. So I didn't repost it because it was kind of a self-serving push, but it would appear to be, I like that one.

So what do I think I stand by what I said last night? I think something that is drastically different from the Sina that we've known for 20 years. talking about characteristically, physical and every other way, mannerisms too. I'd love to see a completely different character to see in a 100% different side of John Cena. Not 20%, not 50%, because he looks a little different, but everything else kind of stays the same. I mean, this is an opportunity for one of the top performers in professional wrestling over the last two decades, unquestionably measured by the only thing that matters and that's money. Here's a chance for that individual who's achieved so much at wrestling.

Now for a few years has been acting. And at first it was probably rough and he was learning and he kept doing and he was learning and he kept doing and he kept learning and he kept learning and he kept doing. And in the process of all that learning and doing, he's he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, absorbing and redefining his instincts in a way that can make him a really, really interesting performer now. And if he embraces a completely different character and yeah, that would include the ball thing,

you know, definitely. I would just beg, if you were going to put him, what was that, what was that movie about the guys on the, on the cargo plane that was moving prisoners? Conair.

Conierre. Yeah, I want, I want, I want, I want to look like he was back in, in the back set. of that plane and con air i like that's what i want i love that show me you got the chops john i dare

you i doubled up there you can't wait to see what they do there we are live with eric bischoff so if you've got a question keep them coming i do want to get this comment from be mandel just as i love getting work as a 54 year old man i sat there on my couch with my hand over my mouth my jaw opened for five minutes i'm feeling excitement like i haven't felt since WrestleMania 3 I am hooked I've seen a lot of that a lot of just positive affirmation messages like this like oh this is what I love so much about wrestling like anytime you can super serve an audience like that that's a good thing right so many times we've discussed you know the bill going into nitro and all the things that went into that and I know we've talked

about research and all that but creating emotion the element of surprise and all the research we did and we've talked about it so many times it's the reason i brought lex luger in the way i brought him in not just coming up with stuff now it's it was a big part of the i need these were vision for myself but it is what it is it is my mind's eye vision it was one of the things that we absolutely needed consistently deliver as often as we could without overdoing it with crappy surprises or surprises it just let people down or didn't in other words you don't want to numb the audience to that element of storytelling surely good but you've got to do it's consistent

as you can't and I think what we're going to see all that said creating emotion is the reason why this gentleman reacted the way he did it's the reason why he loves getting work just because he wasn't assaulted he wasn't sitting there watching wrestling despite the story or lack of or the bad characterization or lack of or the lack to attention of detail whatever it may be he's not sitting through some of that just because oh i do love wrestling i don't want to let it go but man i'm really not in love with it anymore that's kind of the state of mind most people who are i would say peripheral viewers passive viewers maybe once or twice a month not every week there's a lot of those people out there

and they add up so you got to serve them too not just serving the people that are tuned into every show every week and live four hours a day on the internet that's not who you should be serving at least not exclusively and i i i just i'm just excited sorry let's go ahead i'll talk all night you got a quick question here from uh karl hayes but before we do that one i want to mention awesome sauce who's got a comment about the john senna situation they say i can't see how seen his turn is the biggest ever mega power is exploding on NBC did 20 million viewers Andre turning on Hogan did that's 33 million viewers on NBC and while WWE does 2 million on Netflix zero comparison I think we mean in terms of impressions like

maybe not that many people saw the actual show on Netflix but it was everywhere on social right there yeah I mean look this is where it gets so murky and there's an argument for every point of view. And that's why I don't spend a lot of time in them. It's just saying numbers lie and liars use numbers. And when you start tossing in the murky waters of television viewership and how it's measured in the various metrics that are out there and how people play with them, just tell their own story.

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I talked and I said about neural pathways, man. You don't want to burn those mucker fathers up. You want those things to stay healthy. You want your neuro pathway to be on freaking fire. You don't want to gum it up with the gus gunk that you see on social media any more than you have to. That's a while it's fun. Carl Hayes has a fun question rather than Mount Rushmore for their time in the business

who do you think was more impactful seen up or sting no disrespect to either both top level during their time no doubt you know Carl that is a really interesting question because you know again it's one of those it's a numbers right it's who's the biggest it's it's subjective because success means different things to different people. That's why it's always a hard one for me to answer these types of questions because there's more than one answer. But I think if the impact could some, and this is just gut, this is feeling, say, call it what you want, maybe some ego tossed in, probably, let's be real.

I think Sting And arguably John Biggestar drew more money, sold more tickets, blah, blah, blah. Because he was at the highest level in the industry for nearly 20 years. Sting was there for about four, three. So you can't really compare, but I think the Sting's story

despite it's obvious for the ending did you cut that? Yeah, but Dave Green note. Got it. Yeah, you don't want to tag that. I think Sting's story, the way it played out,

Sting embraced that character. He brought that character to life in wrestling. Obviously, let's be real. You know, it was the crow character It was a character based on a character from a movie based on his being very, very liberal. I think I'm going to, I should say. But I think the impact, man, people will remember that story.

People will always remember John Sina. But has John Sina been in a story for almost a year or over a year that had the same level of impact on the wrestling audience at that? time is staying i don't think so when you started your argument i totally disagreed but the way you summed it up i flip-lopped i agree Travis bedway says senna's turn was theater it was excellent but it was a theatrical turn not emotional we're praising it rather than feeling it hogan's turn made people mad where we are consuming zena playing heel and enjoying the experience I think maybe that's before you go off and I'm not I'm sorry you may you may agree I don't know I understand the nature of this question travels and it's it's deep that's a deep question

really is what are we reacting to in the fact that Travis did you know isolated something that I've heard often from people in the industry experience guys who at the very top of their games, whether it be Randy Savage or Sting or Hogan or whomever I've heard it a million times, is the difference between a really, really top-level professional wrestler, somebody who's really, really good, is the ability to play a character you believe and not play a character that you think is a professional wrestler. And that subtle distinction between being the character and playing the character is the difference it's night and day so it's a good question it's i just don't want to i don't want

to dismiss the question now i think in terms of emotion i mean it is right and we talked about this yesterday i'm red i said something to the effect of i think the hogan turn had more he got more of a visceral reaction. And if you put the two crowds up, still shots, video, if you can, if you look at the finish of both of those matches, Hogan's, obviously, and Senes with Brock and Cody, put them up, and forget about what's it going on inside the ring, focus on what's going on outside of the ring.

And the only way you can really measure anything like this, or at least, you know, if you have any level of intellectual curiosity, which most of you do. Otherwise, you wouldn't be here. You'd be reading some dirt sheet. Look a little bit more closely at the story itself and how John is playing it. That's what I'm hopeful for, Travis. I'm hopeful that we'll feel this character because it will be so unique.

See a different side of John's character. that we didn't know really even existed and it will be interesting and compelling. That's what I'm hoping for for the very reason you brought that question up. Kevin says today, WW just launched an all WCW YouTube channel and I'm binging old 90s

WCW entrance stages who was responsible for those entrance stages. The glittery curtains look to me so tacky for wrestling looks more like a game show or a high school prom. well who's who's responsible for it is that the question i'm sorry i was kind of laughing i think you just wanted to you know hear who was responsible for set design i think you know it depends and it's always been you know david crock has always had a hand in it um early wcw was tacky as hell there was no budget that the company was losing millions and millions and

millions of dollars every year uh so there wasn't we were we were a lot of to, I say, wait, this is during a period of time when I was just an announcer, right? So I wasn't involved in any of the discussions back then. But nobody wanted to give WCWD money. So everybody made best with what to do with what they had. And I think everybody that was doing it actually, I'm a little offended by that. Not by the question, but that people would think that it was just, well, we don't really care. We just use this cheap game show look at shit.

We just did the best we could with what we had. Our WCW did the best they could with what they had. We did a poll here and asked everyone watching, does the scene of turn make sense? 43% say yes, he wants the title that bad. 50% say they're excited to find out. And 7% say it was too out of character.

We got another question here. So back when I was 12, one kid got WrestleMania 5. didn't like me, invited all the other neighborhood kids over except me. I did my pennants watching Steamboat and Flair 2 on the Clash. Did he do me a favor that day? That's your question, brother. I couldn't tell you.

Flair Steamboat 2 was pretty awesome, but I was a big Hogan Savage guy. So I'm going to go WrestleMania 5. I hate that kid for you. You know, I'm so impressed that you can just pull that stuff right up. Just pull it. out of your pocket. I threw you that thinking, as I'm asking you that question,

I'm thinking, what a dick. I wouldn't like it if somebody asked me a question that they know damn well I'm not going to be able to answer. And that's exactly what I thought I did. I'm throwing that your way.

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and I'm obviously a little older than you but still general area it's like wrestling has it's been on a now it's on an upward trajectory but if you look at the arc of popularity of professional wrestling

and I think the late 80s excuse me early mid 80s pointed to 87 88 89 such a it wasn't like the golden years of professional wrestling but for where wwe was in their growth trajectory that was one of the really cool periods people were still reacting across the boards to that really animated character the parodies you know the sergeant slaughters the she you know playing off iran and all that stuff and some of it worked better than others

you know what I mean. That was like that was the last in my opinion of that type of presentation where it was dominant in many ways. As time went on, the characters started changing a little bit more and then now we've gotten into more of a, I don't want to call it a reality base, but not quite as gimmicky across the boards as it used to. So it's everything is involved. That was a great period of time and both those guys were amazing performers. at the time and, yeah, I'm happy for them up there and anywhere else in their families and their friends and their fans. Sad man Steve is with us and he wants to know, Eric.

What are your thoughts on the Travis Scott situation with them slapping Cody? I thought about that last night after we got done talking about it and he were kind of smartly up to some of the chatter on social media about it, how people felt about Travis getting involved. So I thought I'd go back and look at it. and I thought to myself, as I try to do, how would I feel if I was coding? Yeah. Other than me just passing judgment, which is what I'm trying to learn not to do, by the way.

It's a personal kind of thing, but I work at it. So if you see me struggling sometimes, it's because I'm trying to find ways to say things that aren't quite as scar forming, if that's possible. but how do we set that up? I lost track. Cody, Travis Scott. Cody, Cody. So I thought, how would I, how would I feel if I was Cody?

I would be so grateful. First of all, I would have known going in. This is a like, not a possibility. It's probably better than 50-50, especially when you tell the guy to lay it in. I'm guessing, I don't know. I went. texted or talked to anybody that would know,

sitting out here in the middle of Wyoming, he made my dog, like your strip steak, chicken. I bet Cody knew that there was a high likelihood, and I bet Cody pushed him because Cody also would know, I mean, I believe he would know that

if that punch, if everything else has done so well, they've laid this thing out it's like it's a Broadway play it's happening live on stage no putting no editing no redoes this is like I've action film playing out in front of you you don't want one of the last things that people see some sloppy pissy looking punch you want it to look real and Cody also I'm sure knows that when you're dealing with a celebrity, no matter what they say backstage and how comfortable, especially somebody that's performed at such a high level, obviously,

it's really easy for them to convince you that they're really comfortable with what they're going to do. I've worked with a lot of, quote-unquote, celebrities and even athletes that should know better. But Cody knew it, and I bet you Cody pushed him. and I bet you Cody's happy right now because not only did the punch look freaking awesome look devastating people are talking about it yeah people are talking about Cody Rose and Travis Scott if I was Cody I would send them a Mercedes

as a thank you man that's awesome what a great perspective let's do another one here uh Trigger cheese wants to know is seen a heel till retirement from ring or longer, do you think that Sina will remain a heal the whole year Eric? Hmm. I don't see

No, but it's going to be damn near close to a year. You'll see the light. But it won't be until the very end. that's that's what i would do uh jiggy buxington says if you were in triple h's shoes as the booker

did you have reprimanded travis scott for the eardrum rupturing hammer fist no because late tony guess what nobody was surprised disappointed yes concerned very much surprise no synovius mac wants to know do you think with seen us turn Do you think that we will get an appearance from Stone Cold at Mania since he can help even the odds for Cody Rhodes? That's a nice thought, isn't it? Donovius Mac on the money!

I like that one. It's kind of cool. I like it. It can make sense for a lot of reasons. Dusty and Steve go back. There's connective tissue there. There's legendary connective tissue there. legendary stories already been told it's out there just waiting to be assembled in a fresh way

as a backdrop for a compelling story with a feel-good ending somebody write that story please it's not that hard after work's done use AI I don't care somebody complete that story give me a reason me a motivation You mean that inciting incident that takes place early on in the trajectory of this storyline where Steve Boston is interjected into the story. And ask AI to build on the history of Stonefold Steve Austin and Dusty Roads to provide a backdrop narrative as to why this is important. And then take us through that story, take us through that art. Steve in jeopardy, raise the stakes halfway through, and then hook me and pay that story off in a way that just makes me feel better about life in general.

It can be done. Yep. It can be done. Sorry. Buddy, you said you were blissful today. There's no doubt. Alex says, do you think Harlem Heat? How do you think Harlem Heat would have fared in WWE?

And why do you think Stevie never went to WWE? Seems like he had the size that Vince would have liked. Yeah, that's a good observation, isn't it? That's another what if. I think if Harlem Heat would have ended up in WWE prior to WCW. I think the odds of them, first of all, the odds of them being as successful as they were in WWE are off the chart high because they're talented they were very very talented both of them they had a great character

and WCW was fortunate fortunate that they landed there first because the Harlem Heat had such a tremendous impact for such an extended period of time in WCW only because they were great. And that talent, had it landed in WWE first, would have served them just as well in WWE as it did in WCW, but there would have been much more creative support, or it would be more competitive in some ways. So that's, you know, if you're, if you're an agent looking at a potential talent's career, you're going to weigh the good with bad, right? So there's some risk in there. And yeah, going to WWE would have been

perhaps a little more demanding in some ways, uh, because Vince had his own way of doing things, which was generally different than what most guys were used to initially. Ask, ask, uh,

Chris Jericho, all about that. Chris Jericho will tell you all about that. Um, don't take my word for it. I've never done that. But Chris has. So I think that the odds of them becoming successful in WWE would have been just as great, if not greater, if they adjusted. And I think Stevie in particular would have fared very well because Vince did like bigger guys. And I think I don't know Vince well enough to know this for certain. But little I do know from working with him briefly.

and what I've heard is that he would have wanted to see more out of Stevie and that would have given Stevie an opportunity to grow because WCW didn't expect much on it. He was just the big, he was the heater. Bookerty did all the, you know, Bogarty did all the, and he provided all the visuals, but when things had to get serious and bring on the heat, that was Stevie. I think if someone would have demanded more out of Steve,

TV, he would have delivered more, and it could have changed his individual trajectory. How's that for answer? It's a great answer. I just realized, as we're talking through this, isn't it interesting that when you think about most successful tag teams in WCW history, I always go to the Harlem he and the Steiner brothers, and only now as we're talking about it, do I realize that the WWE only took the younger brothers?

because Rick didn't go back after WCW and Stevie Ray neither did neither did Steve Ray so the younger brothers I don't know maybe and again that's kind of consistent in terms of what we've heard about WWE and a focus of you yes Alex also says Eric any chance we will ever see you and Booker on each other shows I'd love to hear you guys

talk about the WCW days together I really like Booker. I enjoy Booker. I saw him about a month or six weeks ago when I was down at NXT filming a show with him and Undertaker and Mickey James. It was fun. It was fun seeing everybody. I'd love to. And from time to time, WWE asked me to do things.

And I dig Booker. First of all, he's really, really good at what he does. He's quick-witted. he's a strong personality and you're going to get into it with Booker you're going to get into it with Booker I love that about him and I think and I could probably do some interesting stuff together because in some respects we're very very different but in many respects we're very much alike so I think that that could be interesting but who knows time will tell I do anybody's show almost anybody's show what i've been doing lately is i've been doing this for long time

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I was driving down a road on the radio and then all of a sudden, boom, he drops the off bomb in the middle of the read. I like it. Catherine Summers, who's been a member for eight months. Thank you very much. We greatly appreciate. Says, Eric, what do you think of the partnership between WWE and T and A? What are you making of that?

We haven't been talking about that in a while. I'm very interested in it. Only because of the business nature of it and the strategic, the strategic nature of it. That's what I'm most interested. There is a reason why, and I think I know what it is, or at least one of this is one, there's a reason why WWC's value in this relationship. And in no particular order, I won't start off with what I think it is, is it an opportunity for some of the NXT talent to,

go from a home turf environment where they become comfortable, but they've really not been performed in front of a different type of crowd? Because crowds have personalities, cities have personalities, regions have personalities. And crowds don't always react the same way to the same thing in different parts of the country. Part of getting experience and learning and developing your skills as a character, performer is learning how to dance with the audience so that you're leading them into whatever reaction you're hoping to achieve within the body of your match and I think it would make sense to me if I was running things and I don't know if it makes it business wise but just strategically

if I could take talent in potential talent train them get them get them them comfortable in front of a hometown crowd down at nxte studio or whatever they call it you know and you know what i'm talking about get them there and then maybe before they make it to the big stage let's let them go play pittsburg let's get them used to a different kind of crowd let's get them make them let's put them in an environment where they know if they're a heel they're going to have to work a little differently to get heat. It's not as easy as it is in whatever, Chicago. Different in Phoenix. We'll learn that. So you could come up with a lot of scenarios that on paper that kind of thing makes sense. There probably are others,

but I think primarily, just remember, MLW sued them and won 20 million bucks. WWE is getting so big, so fast that the perception is going to start working against them. If they do nothing wrong, they're going to be accused of doing all kinds of things wrong because it's going to be so hard

because their tentacles are everywhere between their growth and the vertical integration of media companies. It's like that octopus is kind of shit all wrapped around a flagpole. It's that tight. It's really hard to get away from WWE. So I think strategically, if I was them, I was in the risk analysis department

or risk management department, I'd be looking at that most recent judgment, okay, we don't want this to happen again. So what is some of the things that we can do proactively to be sure that we're not perceived to be trying to create a monopoly. That's what I would be thinking. I'm not that smart. And if I'm thinking like that, somebody else that's in the business of not getting sued,

thinking like that. The out-of-pocket variety show has a great question for you, Eric. I think you'll love this one. If you ran things, how would you want Sina to go about his first heel promo? Should he be sarcastic and pass a, of aggressive or lash out

and vent that needs thought to do it justice because it's a really really good question but going back to what I said last night reiterated again here today tonight I'd start out with what could be

the most different than narrative and tone that this character this version of John Cena has I'd lean into less as more, at least initially. I'd weigh in heavily on kind of mysterious.

Don't be definitive. Don't come out and tell me week one, why. You've already left me hanging. You've kind of planted that book. Leave it in as long as you can. I've never been, I've been deep sea fishing once, but I don't remember the experience much because I was drinking like a mow book. But basically when you fish for big fish, you throw your bait out there, you get the bite,

set the hook, right, and then you let them run. Do that hook in as long as you can because you want to tire that fish out. I want it to kill it because you just want to be able to get that fish where you want it. Okay, calling wrestling fans fish, I know is not going to get a lot of positive coverage on the internet. I just kind of think about it in the terms of John's turn. They've got the fish hooked. Everybody wants to know why. Just let them enjoy that ride for a little while.

Let them run with that bait and talk about it. Like we're talking about it right now. It's a mystery in there. Let that breathe. Let that moment exist. You've got time. You can always just lay down the law and tell me why you're doing it, why you did what you did or what your motivation is.

But I think as long as there's kind of a layer or two of mystery surrounding John's motivations and what drew him to this, I think the stronger the story gets. I got another comment from Luis Martinez, who says, Hey, Eric, how much longer do you think Cable has before it dies living in N. I don't know anyone who has cable anymore. I don't think I do either. I don't think I know a single person who still watches cable television. I mean,

what percentage do you think are cutting the cord year over year? When does it just die off? I don't think it'll die off. I think there's always going to be a market for cable, but I think in 24 months, it's not going to look anything like it looks now. I mean, just look, where's the biggest money in cable television?

It's in news. just cable I'm talking about streaming platform but I don't know that as a fact by the way I'm telling you what I think I know based on anecdotal information and the way business has been for a while and reading about that industry kind of peripherally from time to time but the news divisions MSNBC or NBC Fox Studios, Fox News, CNN was for Turner, the cash cow. Everything existed within Turner organization when I was there because of CNN's cash flow. It carried the freaking company.

Now it's basically going to be spun off at a flea market. even cable news is dying. And when those revenues dry up, there's not going to be a lot of money left for high dollar dramas, comedies, sports. That's just all going away. And what will be left will be more like local television was before cable. There'll just be lots more of it.

It'll be infomercials. That industry is going to take off. off is that's the only that's the type of thing you're going to see paid programming guys that have fishing shows and hunting shows and all those kind of things that are really cool that has an audience but it's really hard to sell it's really hard to sell advertising in those those types of shows for all kinds of reasons so a lot of guys just got to get five or six seven different sponsors some of them locally if they're relatively known they're competitive fishermen or outdoors people sometimes they have their own little local TV shows they end up getting corporate

five, six sponsors. They get enough money going, and they start out slowly. And eventually, there's guys that I knew on Minnesota that took this model and made $10, $15 million a year back in the late 80s. So it's a definite money-making model if you can figure it out. But that's only about 10% of them. The other 90% of them are pretty bad. You're going to get to know all of them, because that's what it'll be. And, you know, news. Jake is with us here and he says, hey, Eric, any chance you're going to attend wrestle verse fest in Kansas City on June 28th and 29th. Sting, Nash, Lugar, and others will be attending. I'd love to meet you, NWO for life. Well, you better reach out to that

promoter and just say, what the fuck. I didn't get a call. Nobody called me. What the hell? I'd love to go to Kansas City. I don't know what I'm doing in June. My summer's going to be a little whack this year. If not, I'm going to Scotland. Got a little bit of business to take care of, and I'll be talking more about that when the time comes because it's not my deal to talk about.

But when it's appropriate, so that's going on in that area. I don't know, man. And I'd love to, though. Seriously, reach out to the promoter and ask him. Ask him if he's reached out to me. What he does, I will give you all the credit for all. No commission, but, but it.

We did a poll here amongst everyone watching. According to the industry itself, or I'm sorry, we didn't do a poll. According to the industry itself, 69.8% of cable subscribers have cut the cable since 2014. I'm part of that group. I had direct TV. I'm a YouTube TV now. I'm both because of where I live, I don't have 100% faith in any form of Wi-Fi. Oh, I got you.

Okay, so I've, I've got cable for backup is what I've got. Virgil Dawkins says, why is the internet worried so much about Cody's black eye and ear injury and assuming WrestleMania is in jeopardy now? It makes no sense. He literally wrestled an entire hell in a cell match before with a porn peck. I'm not a porn, but a torn pick. We talked about that yesterday. There's zero chance. Cody's missing WrestleMania.

I thought it's zero chance. Hey, I hope Cody, it heals 100%. But God gave us two ear drums. He's still good. He'll go. Yeah, I wouldn't bet on that.

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What do you think about that, associating Hogan with this? He's not going to get physical, right? So we can't do that. I'm just hoping he doesn't hear this. Oh, God. If I get a call tomorrow morning, when he calls me,

by the way, and he and I are doing some fun things together that we'll be talking about very soon. So we've been speaking more than we normally would. And when he does call me, it's like six in the morning in my time. Now, fortunately, I'm usually up around 4, 4.30. So I'm good. I've had my coffee and all the things I need to do to, you know, wake up, have a conversation.

But if I get that call tomorrow morning at 6 a.m. And I see it's him. I know he's calling about this idea. Not that he'd even volunteer wanting to do it, but he would be so excited about the idea of it. He'd go off and tell me 15 different ways to do it. And it would be fun to listen to because he gets into it like he's really laying it out. And then, yeah, it's fun. Garvey O'Morrow was with us and says if Jeff Hardy didn't have his issues then,

would his T&A heel turn be considered as one of the bigger ones? I remember it being big at the time. Unfortunately, no, and I've talked about this so many times, you know, When you are a small-scale version of a very large competitor and presentation, you can't, it just doesn't have the gravity. It's just a small show and with a smaller audience, and nothing that happens in front of that smaller audience feels nearly as dramatic as it deserves to, you just can't create the kind of reaction and emotion you need for that

moment to be as compelling as possible to be regarded as one of the top emotional moments and a heel turn in front of 550 people that come and watch you every single week and have become somewhat emotionally, I don't know, dumb isn't quite the right word, but have Lovian perhaps, they're just, they're reacting almost on cue, and they're not really engaged in the emotion of what's going on, to the degree of people that come and you're surrounded by 5, 10, 12, 15,000 or more people, that crowd creates its own force of energy, which is emotion, and you can't manufacture it in front of 650 people, the matter how hard. you try. It's unfortunate because I think if that heel turn or Jeff would have

happened on a larger stage in front of a larger audience, now we're going to have a conversation about it. But because of everything I just explained, not today we're not. Brad Kay wants to know, should Cornett be on Raw in Louisville? No, it's been talked about a lot that Cornett won't leave Louisville. He's not going on the road. he's not getting in an airplane it's not his deal it comes to him what do you think the likelihood is that we see uh jimmy cornet on tv i don't know but and i know he hates my guts and i don't care but i like him more and more every time i learn more about him it's just like yeah he's kind of funny you got a lover guy that says i'm not leaving louisville he's not doing it i can in a car

i get a plane i'm not even going to walk or i'm just staying here if you want to do something with me come on in you know but but i like you gotta love that i do i'm not there yet i kind of admire him he's got more money than i do i still got you know they keep sending me bills and i got to keep working to help him so i'm i'm still out hustling jamming but i'd admire a guy like that i'd love to see it again i'm not putting him over for any other reason and he's fun as hell to listen to and he's i don't agree with everything that he says i find myself disagreeing At the core of what he's saying, forget about how he says it. At the core of what he's saying, I probably agree with him way more than I realize.

So I think he's a great character. He's got his own thing, and that thing can be somewhat dangerous on national television, but he knows how to handle himself. So I'd like to see it. I think it would be a great addition to the show. Give it an edge, especially on Netflix. Why not? you know, who do we have to call, Conrad?

We need to help make that happen because that's a good deal idea. Lewis Martinez has another great question. Eric, would you have released the Radicals in 1999? Oh, hell no. I've told the story before. How would I not knowing any of that was going on until I saw it happen on television. And I went and I looked at my wife and said, okay, things were bad before. But right now, this is the Titanic has hit the iceberg.

It wasn't trying to get around the iceberg anymore. It just went head on into the iceberg. And I told my wife, I looked at it. They just let me go in September, paid me off, huge junk of money, blah, blah, blah, blah, and what, three months later? Here, what do you think about maybe coming back? So, no, I would not have done that. That was a, keep in mind, ultimately, it didn't make any difference. That company was determined to be spun off of Turner Broadcasting come hell or high water.

That is nothing that could have saved or altered the course of that company's destiny under the AOL-L-time Warner Management. and anybody that doesn't recognize that is being willfully ignorant. I have no time for that. So, let's move on. I'll camp out on that all night. Frank says,

Hey, Eric, do you think if Tony Kahn never would have made the Ted Turner comments, you would have been less critical of AEW? Honest answer. yeah. And I could bullshit you here and I could probably say some smart something shit that would make you think maybe it's true. But that really disappointed me to the point where it had nothing to do with me. It was just so disrespectful of someone who I have so much

respect for. And everybody that's in the industry today, everybody that's in the industry today should be thankful and grateful for what Ted Turner contributed to the business and for someone who professed to be such a student and someone who I had heard was kind of

look favorably in terms of what WCW accomplished the good and the bad just a fair way to look at things and respectful way for him to come out and say that about Ted on the network that Ted Turner built from scratch at a time when everybody thought Ted Turner was nuts because Ted Turner's vision for what cable television would be was so far out there he had a hard time getting people

to go into business with him oh and throw a little crazy on top of that because he was fun and he did not give a that is the renegade of all renegades in the world of media in our freaking lifetime he was like a badass Elon Musk

who just did not give a and would tell you that the microphone in his hand early in his career so much admiration for what he did and To say something like that, I just thought, it made me lose any respect. And with that, the benefit of the doubt.

But guess what? I'm not proud of that. I don't think that that's a good thing. It's a flaw. I'm being a jackass with that attitude. because I'm just hanging on to it. It's stupid. So I'm just not going to, I want to avoid talking about AEW.

And this will probably be the last time I'll answer a question like this because I can only answer them so many times in so many different ways while trying to make the same point. And at some point, I just go, you know, next question, please. But yeah, I just made up my mind. Tony's going to do what Tony's going to do. Tony has the ability to do what he's going to do and everybody around him is benefiting from that. So, go Tony, go everybody there. And my opinion really shouldn't matter. So I'll just keep it to myself.

Virgil Dawkins says, why does WWE hire so many failed and retired athletes that don't do well in sports. Most of them having no knowledge of wrestling or the culture and just won a job. This annoys me as a diehard fan. I'm a, I'm perplexed. What do you mean? How many retired and failed athletes that don't do well in sport? Who are we talking about here? I guess they're thinking there's a lot of people at the PC.

see I'm not really sure I mean Ron Breaker seems to be doing well Tiffany Stratton seems to be doing well I mean that's what I mean this is an absurd question this is another right is it Virgil I'm sorry and I don't mean to I'm not trying not to be judgmental here but you and I see two different things bro

and maybe it's because I have a different perspective and sometimes when two people have different perspectives which means you're looking at it from different angles. You know, maybe I appreciate something that you don't see or vice versa. But, man, what I saw, and this is unfair because I saw it in person. When I saw a level of talent in the PC down in Orlando, it was one of the things, it's the only thing that's really shocked me, or not I want to say shock, it's the only thing that's really had a major impact on me in terms of the business of the business that I wasn't kind of aware of.

Like, I didn't realize how far advanced that whole process has become. And I saw a ringful, probably two ringfuls, a really young talent. We're talking early 20s, late teens, early 20s, insured the age, but in that range, all Division I athletes doing things in the ring that made me think they'd been there for six months. They'd only been there for a week. They're learning so quickly because they're trainable. They've learned how to be coachable. And obviously, they're very athletic.

So I'm looking at that thing from an entirely different perspective and somewhat different from a regular angle. But hey, I'm wrong. Ben wants to know, Eric, a 14-year-old me had my email question asked on air when you were on off the record in Canada back in the 90s. What are your memories of doing that show? Did you like Landsberg? I liked him.

He was an obnoxious, just in your face, you know, trying hard to be that, you know, cutting heads, journalists, you know, dig, fight, you know, and he pushed me. Not just me, but that was his thing, right? And I kind of dug that. I like to be fucked with, especially on air. I like to be challenged that way. That kind of makes fun. Remember those neural pathways I keep talking?

talking about those muckle fathers get on fire and that kind of thing happens you've heard me go off on a rant those things go up all of a sudden you're going off so fast my hot head starts to get hot there go the gray hair uh it's fun so yeah have a good time with it king of games wants to know can you tell us what the reaction backstage was when booker t cut that promo on hogan what was tom warner's really reaction. Oh, I was thinking about saying yesterday, here's how bored I am sometimes, just being in the middle of nowhere, living the life I live, choosing to live the life I live and being

grateful every day for it. I kind of like my space. I'm not good at chatting for the sake of chatting, so I don't like to talk to my neighbors. I don't go to the grocery store and talk to people or just kind of leave me alone. me get lost in my own head, man. I really dug it. So maybe I'm desensitized to a lot of shit. But that question,

we've become so sensitized to that particular incident. It's an entirely different reaction today. And I'm thinking about collective we as a society, as a culture. I'm not passing judgment on a good or bad. I'm just stating a fact. Our sensitivity to things racially has become so much more heightened over the last couple of years. And I don't know, not like I'm tracking or said again, but certainly it seems to be over the last five, six, eight, ten years, whatever.

And back then, I didn't hear a word from Time Warner. I didn't hear a word from the audience. there may have been some people that wrote in and some people that were I'm believing I'm sensitive to that even to this day I'm suggesting that people weren't I'm just telling you it wasn't even a blip on the radar it would be today

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No Okay I pull up Says When was the last time You spoke with Vince That's a good question Eric Um

When there was It was right I think it was right after Christmas And I went in to do a spot Or there was a wedding Um His His wife

perform their service or something remember that kind of yeah and i was in a white suit they wanted me in a white suit because then they wanted to you know she got to humiliate the legend on the way out the door so i i stood there and now got dumped on in the middle i think it was in the middle of ring or outside whatever 2021 december 2020 yeah that was the last time i talked so okay the last time i took so i went in his office and talked for a while and that was it probably lasted 90 seconds uh here's one from uh louis martinez he says cornet laughed at the fact that meltzer said tony could have ran wcw better than eric because of all the egos he had to deal with and he couldn't handle the bucks

eric how did you handle that situation that's probably one of the more challenging parts of being in that seat as managing all those personalities, right? No, it really wasn't as hard as you would think 80% of the time. So 80% of the time it was much easier than people would think.

It really is overall the nature of the performer there's generally quite a bit of respect inherent in the industry to this day. Even the little bit of indie exposure that I get, occasionally doing independent shows,

I end up backstage and, you know, I'm just observing. Nothing else to do, but look, watch. And as I look, you know, you look around the rest of the room and you get a vibe. And still kind of disaharan in the business, I think, because of the nature of it. So it's an easy business, more so than people think, except for that 20%. The 20%, now you've got big personalities.

That's why they're, that's by their performers, whether it's professional wrestlers or actors or actresses or whatever. Rock and roll singers, you're out there because you want to perform. You've got an ego. You've got to feed that ego with something that's way different than most people need. and you become a performer on whatever stage you become a performer on it. You thrive off that. All that stuff feeds that ego. It gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

And most of the time it's a healthy ego. And sometimes it's not. And then you throw in a little bit of a confrontation and, you know, a little chemical balance here and air. Wow. It goes crazy fast in a way that you don't normally come across in the course of day-to-day business. It doesn't happen to the bank, right? Usually it won't happen inside, you know, a real estate office or a doctor's office.

But it can happen, has happened, does happen, as we know the next stage. And then it all depends on, and it comes down to how are you going to react? You're going to overreact, underreact, you're going to hide. You're going to happen. You're going to come down too hard on people. Now, it's a learned, it's a learned skill. It doesn't come naturally. Travis Bedway has been a member here for 11 months.

Appreciate you, Travis, and he says, elaborating on my theater comments, I just think people will turn up to see and enjoy seen as heel turn like they watch a batty at a movie rather than really hating him. Do you think we can ever bring back proper heels? I guess what I was trying to say, Travis,

and I really appreciate you dig it in and following up with this question. What I'm trying to say is, I am hopeful based on John's track record or track record over the last several years becoming a better actor working with better actors being directed by better directors because as his film career ascends

so does the quality and talent of the people that are around him and I'm hoping that all of that is going to wind up with a character that will deliver exactly what you're looking for because I believe given all of the experience that John's had

of the last 20 years in the ring and the last five or whatever it's been in Hollywood, I think there's a potential of him delivering a character that will give you every bit as much story as you're hoping is to get. I believe it's possible given all the variables. John's got the talent. Back story can be there. That's where you've got to come up with a good idea. And the execution, they've proven that they can execute incredibly well.

So I'm hopeful. Let's see. Who knows? Here's one from Michael Byrne. He wants to know, Eric, what books would you recommend reading for a person that is new to sales? Oh. I mean, I don't read a lot of that type of book, right? Motivation, business.

So I don't have any alphabet. of my tongue, but I will tell you the first book I ever read when I was about 14, and I've never been a big reader, just very impatient, sitting still long enough to read a book and actually absorb anything. The amount of time that that takes requires me sitting still, and that's always been difficult. Either physically it's difficult to just sit still and focus on one thing, or mentally, it's really difficult. It's just a lot of shit I'm interested in. All right, what was the question?

I said, Milter's going to clip that out. I'm not a big reader. Oh, I don't give you a question. You know, why? Because sometimes you get a question like that, you fry your circuits. Yes. So, uh, any recommendations of the first book you said? You were going to say the first book you were going to win friends and influence people.

I had a friend, Bobbary, one of the guy that's responsible for me living here where I live in Wyoming. He was kind of a mentor. It's 12 years older than me when I was 14. He's a really successful salesman. So advertising for a couple of Pittsburgh. And I looked up to him a lot. And he encouraged me to read that book because I wanted to learn about what he did.

He was writing Rast's a street from a cool shit. And he was like a big brother. And, and I'm so motivated by him. And I said, how did you do, how did you do this, you know? And tell me, read this book. So that, yeah, that's it. Read that book. VIN says, I see online that someone asked Tony Kahn about John Sina at his media call,

some criticism online saying this is an inappropriate question. What are your thoughts, Aaron? So somebody asked Tony Kahn about John Sina's turn at Tony Kahn's press conference. Yeah. Well, it's a media call, but yeah. What do you going to give people a script? Say, here's the question you get to ask. You're going to do a fucking media call, do a media call,

and people shouldn't be so worried about the types of questions that come up. There'll be good questions. There'll be stupid questions. there'll be people that'll make asses of themselves, just like they do at the White House press conferences all the time. So, get over yourselves, people, what the hell? Roland Barcia says, should Sina's heel character wear expensive suits and glasses?

Did you get mad when Scott Hall asked Giant on air if Andre was really your dad? So, yeah, do you remember Scott Hall saying that? Was that an issue? No. I didn't imagine Now the second part Sina as a heel

What do you think about a look for him Fancy suits and glasses Yeah Roland I appreciate the question We talked about that a little bit last night I'd go the other way You know I I mean rock is like

You'd out He's got it all Why would you take away from that Let that character be that character Come in with your own Doesn't look like a derivative of rocks being a suit and glasses and jewelry and that oh something else something the opposite of that i don't know what it is sitting here i'll think about it this question keeps coming up

you said last night maybe jeans maybe make it a little like stone cold a little bit yeah now sleeveless t-shirt something a little badass looking something like you'd expect to see Sylvester Salone in one of those War movies, that kind of thing? Expendables? Yeah, something like that. I don't copy it. So, Roman Rains here.

Roman Rains here. It's inspired by something that looks real. What about Glacier's outfit? That'd be awesome. Can you imagine? Oh, man, the audience, oh, the internet would expose. Oh, did you imagine what they'd be saying on X?

Twitter would be on fire. We'd be trending. It would be awesome. Angry Duckling Institution says, Should Heel Sina's Garb at WrestleMania honor the Chinese flag, especially given the current tariffs, trade war, after Sena's military persona run and Cody's Garb? So, wow, he's maybe thinking in terms of a comic book here,

a Marvel movie, but I dig the line of thinking. you do have the American nightmare so if you're trying to create that you know that Sina did go learn Mandarin on his own that would be weird to see him put a promo like that I can see that being fun as like an internet thing but I just don't see them doing that on Netflix I have a love-hate relationship

with this idea I love it because it's so fertile like you could go so many different ways listen to this and you could you can walk right up to the edge of it slightly inappropriate back up just a little bit and you get away with some really interesting stuff that would get people talking to be talking about your product good and bad controversial it happens that But that would be That'd be wild

Just because you could go so many different ways It's funny That's why I love it Here's why I hate it Because you can never do that Nobody will ever do that idea It's too I'll talk about it in the news

They'll create drama series It'll have a backstory About China and the US And a war And all kinds of spies going back and forth And stealing each other shit It's okay to do that But if you try to take

What's really going on today politically and put it in the ring. For some reason, there's like this other kind of sensor in our own minds that's been embedded there and planted there and manipulated there to make us think that, oh, it's okay to take topical, mainstream public discussion, discourse issues. and weave them into fictional characters and stories across all kinds of media platforms mainstream it's okay to do that that's the creative process probably some First Amendment shit in there too but you can't do that for wrestling

oh no there'll be people their hair will catch fire And when the show's over, they'll flip over and watch some other shit on streaming. It does the exact same thing, but it says it's a drama or a comedy or an action movie. It's okay. It's okay. Not in wrestling. That pisses me.

That aspect of the way people look at wrestling. And look, it comes down to advertisers. Advertisers have been drug along so reluctantly, such a long period of time, since the beginning of television time in wrestling, met their first fucking date it's been kicking and screaming all the way through it didn't even easy wasn't even an issue in the 60s because nobody would buy wrestling local car lots would some local advertising would there was no national sales of wrestling other than the dumont network a couple of initial efforts into business that back in the 50s my point is that wrestling has come a long way let's

Let's move off on a tangent. I'm so sorry. That's what we're here. We're here for the tangents, man. Angus Smothers says, whoop, big fan of you both. My question to both of you is,

what would be your dream WrestleMania match if you could book it and why? Yeah, this year, Eric, what would be your dream WrestleMania match? I can't do it. I just can't.

I can't even give you one right now. I'd have to think about it. I don't have one. I don't have the top of my head. I'd have to really think about that. Well, we don't have to think about Magic Spoon. We know it's fantastic. We know they make high protein cereal with zero sugar and they have fantastic treats.

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know i mean if wcw could have continued i guess that would mean that a w at least wouldn't be on tb s d and d so that would be different do you think of anything else that would really change if wcw was still around it the truth is just there's just there's no way i can conceive of still being around, even if the purchase with Fusion would have gone through. And I said this in a documentary I did for WWE years ago. Like at the right of the end of the documentary, they asked me a question about, I'm paraphrasing all this, I remember exactly, but it was kind of like, after it was all said and done, WCW being sold to WWE, after all this time,

how do you feel about it? And I said something to the effect of that I was grateful for it. which was odd in light of things. But the reality is, I know for a fact, it had Fusions purchased WCW, they weren't purchasing it to build it and hold on to it. They were purchasing it to build it and flip, because that was the art form of financial transactions

that Steve Greenberg and infusioned. That was a good deal. Private all. That's their deal. They bought things that had little value, and they made them more valuable, and then they sold them. And I know that.

100% I know that. I should have known it early on because it's really kind of a standard operating kind of, that's what people do. They buy broke things, they fix them, they sell them. It's no different than, you know, go into a flea market and buying some old piece of furniture that you see potential in and you bring it home and you work on it,

you make it pretty, and then you sell it for four times more and you paid for it and the time you put into it. That's what Brian McDowell and Steve Greenberg. And I think because that would have been the intention going in, it would not have lasted, it would not have endured multiple transactions, Meaning if it was sold, if Brian bought it, if we, Fusion, would have bought it, I was a part of the team. If we would have bought it, we would have sold it, we would have made a lot of money, and that would be the end of it. It would have gone to somebody else who probably at some point would either sell it or fuck it up.

You've got to be in the business for more than a transactional reason to be. successful in it. You've got to love it. Not just as a performer, we all know that, because you have to be committed to the work to be good in the ring. It's work. The business itself is a grind.

It's 52 weeks of grind. And it just takes so long. It just takes so long to get so. next question next question uh be needler says why do you think it's still considered weird to like wrestling did you ever have people outside of the industry tell you you know it's fake right

yeah yeah we've talked about that before when i was uh when i worked for turner and i had a carryout bag and i always flew first class because after a while you just get people fly miles and turner did fly me first class it was part of my contract the way i'm always in first class and you when you fly first class on a regular basis, more often than not, you're sitting next to somebody who is oftentimes a business person. And you're on a long flight, people feel the need to strike up a conversation. Personally, I wish they wouldn't because I don't like to talk when I'm on a plane.

I don't like to talk much period when I'm not on the show. But inevitably, you end up engaged in some kind of a conversation. It's a general conversation like many that you've had, everyone up is a man of business hey how are you where you going oh home business oh business what business are you in oh fuck i know what's coming next from the point when i'm asked oh what business are you in i can tell you what the conversation is going to be before the conversation happens and then you go who that whole thing what do you do i work on her turn a broadcast oh what do there um in a television side of things. Oh, really? What do you do in television? Professional wrestling. What, what? Did you say

professional wrestling? Really? That's what you do? Wow. I stop. Oh, man, I can't believe that. I can't believe people still watch this up. They do. I'm here. That's what I'm going wherever I'm going. I'm going to see if I got my messages here. So what makes people watch for us? I mean, I never understood. Like when I was a kid, I used to watch it,

you know, because my friends watched it. My grandpa liked it. You know, when I was like six, eight, nine years old. And then I watched it a little bit,

you know, I was in my early teens. And, you know, and I went to college. You know, I had kind of a, oh,

really, where did you go to college? Oh, man, we'd have these big frat party. you know and in fact there was this thing called a nitro party we used to do that

like going to a nitro party it's awesome so anyway I can't believe people watch it stuff and what about last Monday night but you know and then they tell you the finish of a match

from last nitro I went through that conversation a million times some version of that it's just funny it's a little bit like you know wrestling is kind of just a little bit above porn and nobody had missed to watch a point i make jokes about you but

no let's break that brand right now eric what website do you go to crank cog in that uh nice track nice try no i mean listen let's you know let's celebrate uh nice try nice try you're trying you're taking me off my point my point is that wrestling is slightly more comfortable than that conversation that we're not going to have. Okay. Which is really weird, given the, just, it's everywhere.

It's mainstream. It's just mainstream is, it's looking better than the NBA right now. In terms of performance and trends. But it's still got that stigma. Yeah, I've had it. B. D. Inther says that Eric looks like a Brazzar's kind of guy. I don't even know what that is,

but thoughts and prayers. Michael Skagin says, with Senna's last run being a heel, do you think that they will bookend his run with a redemption sort of ending? I mean, they kind of have to, don't they? That's what I said earlier when somebody said, you know, how long do you think it'll last? I said, go right to the very end, but not to the end. It will be, I didn't use the term redemption, but yeah, I agree, that's what it will be. I think they'll have a lot of fun. I think the journey, this is going to be, if he's, just imagine that this character,

are starting today, you, you, you know, John Cines' background, obviously, because this is a whole brand new character that's going to be on. When does he leave? What? Is there an end date? I think it'll just be through the end of the year. I mean, that may be the next year's Rumble. I don't know.

So we got about, what, nine months left, whatever it is. Ten months, yeah. Ten months. So we got ten months to tell a story. Act one will take three months. Act two will take three months. And act three will take three months. And if you break that story down,

down into a three-act structure and hit the right plot points along the way. So we're telling this story, which is essentially going to be hopefully a redemption story, but we're going to reverse engineer it and just see that story develop that whole period of time. That's what I'm really, really hoping we're going to see. Our buddy aunt ran a poll here and said 80% of our fans have gotten the, you know it's fake, right? Question. So annoyed by that.

John Collins says, Eric, it's John. I asked you some time ago if your new book was in an audio version. At the time you said no, are there any updates about that situation? Yes. No. Not yet. That's a better answer. Not yet.

I really want to. And I've tried several times, but I just really haven't had the time to focus on it is the honest answer. Let me put it this way. I've had the time I haven't been able to focus on it. So until I can carve out enough time to really, really do it well, because that's another problem I have. If it's not really perfect, then I'm forced to do it over again.

And it probably takes me 10 times longer than it would take the average person because I'm a little bit obsessive of that particular issue. So eventually I will. I don't know when. No promises. Maddie Marijuana says seeing punk's promo and raw was awesome he's hopeful that we get Austin

at WrestleMania 41 I know punk bitch says I wouldn't say the rock is the greatest wrestler of all time but would you agree he has the most big moments like matches promos and rivalries what do you think about that the big the big moment guy I think that's pretty obvious

he just he's yeah and across the board in WWE and in you know feature films over the last what five to ten years he's been at the top of his game spent a couple years as the highest paid actor in hollywood so yeah yeah i'd say he's kind of a big moment guy i'd lean into that 25 season says do you think wcd would have still been winning the monday night war in 99 if red hearts run and the starcade 97 sting

hogan finish were done perfectly so this alternate universe You nail the perfect ending for the Hogan Sting Feud, and Brett Hart just fits right in and becomes a top guy to change anything in the Monday Night Wars. An easy answer would be no. Because of all the reasons I've discussed, I'm nauseam and just don't want to anymore, it's not tonight. I've spent way too much time in the deep. weeds um trying to think first of all i i'm doing here's why i'm struggling with this

i'm taking a little bit of exception to the sting oh good to finish starcate if you go back take your personal emotional wrestling fan identity out of the equation set your fandom aside set your fandom aside look at nothing but numbers go back and look at nothing but numbers go back and look at numbers following Hogan Singh, 97, across the board, you tell me how much damage that finished it, given that 98 was a record year. Biggest year ever. So I know why you ask the question, and I don't blame me for asking it, right, because you're looking at it from one perspective.

and you assume because it was a disappointment, perhaps in your mind or perhaps because you read about it being a disappointment. Either way, you're disappointed in that finish, so therefore you think, since it happened, it must have been one of the things that led to the downfall of WZW because that's what Dave Meltzer says. And it's stupid. Numbers, in this case, don't lie. The information is out there.

You don't have to believe me. In fact, I hope you don't believe me. And I hope you spend, I don't know, 20 minutes looking for this information. You got AI at your fingertips, dude. Just ask AI the question. What was WCW's television ratings performance year over year, 97, 98? Or revenues, or pay-per-view buy rates, or ticket sales. any you know metric you want to pull out of your ass so you can kind of get hot about it damn

I'm not hot I'm just excited not hot any metric you want go back and look at that and then maybe rephrase that question so let's put that part of the question aside because it's not appropriate yeah you dumb son of a bitch it's not what I said kind of it was kind of stupid though right that means you're just not doing your homework and i mean that with all love and respect i appreciate you being here but i'm going to be honest about this stuff i can't sugarcoat ship it's not how i do it so if you ask a question i'm going to give you the answer and i don't mean to personalize it well that makes his question even easier i mean if red heart having an awesome ruin would not have changed stone cold in

the rock getting as hot as they did absolutely not and at the end of the day none of it would have had any difference one way or the other. Yeah. Sorry. You wanted me to end that question for that answer, didn't you? No, not at all. I'm trying to read the room.

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where smart but simple marketing drives results. So, Eric, let's do a few more questions here. Michael wants to know your thoughts on RVD and his talents. I feel like this skill set was one of the best of all. Tom, do you think other wrestlers were jealous? No, I don't think that at all. I think there were wrestlers who were uncomfortable working with Rob because his style was so unique and it was something that they weren't used to.

You know, they get thousands of reps with, you know, a lot of the same moves that you see over and over and over and over again. And as great as those moves are, there's still sequences and individual moves that any of those talents have done thousands of times. So it's just natural almost. It's almost a reflex that becomes some second nature. until you wrestle someone like Rob who does some really odd things that comes at you from different angles that you're not used to seeing

so and you know I've seen it up close and personal not that I've never you know been in the room with Rob that way but I've you know in TNA I think he knocked out knocked out a piss his teeth

spin a spin wheel kick actually is what it was technically wrestling move for it was but yeah i saw it happened most of the time it looked really great but if your timing was off if you're in the ring with rob and your timing was off or don't react because you're just not used to seeing things coming from different angles it happened occasionally so everybody was aware of that not in a way like they're afraid to work with rob but it's like everybody understood you had to be on your game keep your eyes over

Like Kevin says, was Eric and T&A when bully Ray turned heel and fans do trash in the ring? I wrote it! Do you guys think there was an effort by security at Elimination Chamber to discourage throwing trash when seen a turn? Huh. That's a good question. Yes. I would imagine at the level that WWE is operating at, When you get that big and you have that much liability and potential liability for all

things that happen under your watch that you're producing, I think every step is taken to minimize anything that can happen at every event. So I can't imagine there was a lot of beer bottles and cans. I think most everything was in paper cups. I don't know. every venue is different but as I'm sitting here thinking about this every time like I went to see the rolling stones well I didn't want to keep running back and forth you know for 12 ounce bottles of beers and I was with my brother my sister and my wife so I went up there to get you know six beers

where they put them in like 24 inch paper mug just like half gallon beer um but I didn't see any bottles so I don't know to answer the question I don't I don't think there was any special consideration. I think generally that consideration exists. People are very careful about allowing things in the arena that can be used as, you know, like objects. Great question here from Jersey Jenkins. Sina is now in the Guinness Book of World Records for longest face run before turning heel. The only other person I can think of beating that record is Ray. Would you pull that trigger? Are you interested in Guinness Booker records in wrestling, Eric?

Absolutely. I didn't know I mean, I know of the Guinness Book of World Records, I guess, but yeah, no, I just wouldn't even think about it. Mr. Whisper says, I'm wondering what was your impression of John Penta as a talent when he came to WCW. He started off hot, working with the top guys,

but fell down the card as time passed. What do you attribute this to? evolution of the audience taste it was you know for the longest time we talked about it earlier in the show in 80s

late 80s early 90s the big man larger than life characters that was where the money was that was the center of the professional wrestling universe was larger than life characters physically as well as the personifications

that changed, started changing when John got to WCW very, very early on, contrast, Tenta and Goldberg. I don't know how their times overlapped or if they did, but that's the direction. We got there late, to be honest, that evolution started happening in movies. That's where it first started. when characters first started really changing and the baby faces became kind of he's a baby face but he's got that fucking dark thing going on most you know people always see it but it's there you'll explode any time that character with a baby face with a dangerous edge is what started to happen in movies and wCW caught up to it relatively soon but late in the

game as far as movies and we started becoming trying to become more reality based not abandoning everything else but trying to gradually become more reality base where our focus was our prime focus and then that really took took on a new life in the late 90s and then certainly into 2000 WWA move towards the attitude era everything started to become more realistic so what do I think of John, I think in terms of his career at WCW, I wish it would have been a few years earlier when that type of character presentation was still popular, like it had been. Because by the time John came into it, the audience was getting tired of that. We're looking for something different.

Well, we've been looking for something different tonight. We've got a bunch of questions, but a lot of suggestions too, like this one from B40 B40, how about heel Hollywood Hogan as seen as advocate? I don't see him doing anything with Hogan and you said you may get a call. Let's move on. Lewis wants to know, does Rousseau deserve

to be in the Hall of Fame? I don't go there. First of all, deserve based on whose opinion and why. I mean, we all have them and every one of them is valid. So I hope he does. I hope he gets it. Hopefully it will make him feel better about

his time in wrestling. I know I've never heard him say if I've heard other people say he said it so it doesn't mean it's true at all, but he has a pretty bad taste in his mouth about wrestling, which is really unfortunate. You know, it's however

he feels misunderstood or his characterized or judged or whatever, he still had a pretty good run. He had to do some pretty fun shit. You have to do things that most people, though, get a chance to do, and he probably made more money than he's ever made in his life. So I understand it didn't go the way you want.

Trust me, I know that. But hanging on to being miserable about it is just making it worse. So maybe that little knot from WWE will make him feel better about life. Lewis has a follow-up and says, Eric, if the WWE asks you to induct Bruceau and Cornette in the Hall of Fame, would you do it? And how much would they have to pay you to do it? I wouldn't do Rousseau because I couldn't do it, honestly. I just couldn't.

And it's got nothing to do with money. I just couldn't do it for any realistic amount of money. You know, there's like seven figures involved. I can be an active motherfucker and I could be believable. Worth every penny. But barring something absolutely absurd is that, wouldn't do it. Ornette I think

would be fun I think that it has it's never going to happen right so let's be real about that for the get-go

it's never going to happen but if it did damn that could be fun entertaining as hell but that's game of games that would I do for free

King of games wants to know If Vince asked you to be a part of a new promotion Would you be interested What role would you see yourself in? Would you be creative or a GM? No I've I've come to realize

Over the last Well really since Since 2019 When I stepped foot in the water again And The way it worked out, it is what it is. I was given an opportunity. I didn't capitalize on it.

No harm, no fall. I still have a lot of respect for what it's accomplished professionally. So a lot of friends that work there have nothing but a great taste or feeling and all that about WWE regardless of how it happened. But I've had a time to really think a lot about that. I still think about it from time to time as it applies to choices that I'm making now. I go back to, you know, what was my motivation? Why did I take that job? A lot of the answers pretty obvious, right?

It was financial. But it was more than that. It was much more than that. And it was an opportunity to kind of get back to something that I felt a real strong connection to. And there was a lot of money. So that was the motivation. The red flags I didn't pick up on because I was so excited. A, there's a lot of money, and E, I was really excited about getting back to something that I knew I could sink my teeth into 24-7, kind of immerses myself in, and enjoy.

When I got there, things were so much different than I thought they would be because I didn't ask the right questions when I was interviewing with Vince. Actually, it didn't matter. I would have taken the job anyway. Honest, true. I was so excited. The opportunity was so good. Timing was so right. It didn't really matter how we would have answered the question.

I would have taken the job anyway. Straight up back. What I wished I would have done in retrospect, even though I'm grateful for that opportunity, is to ask more questions. I never knew what my job was. I knew what the official title was. I had no idea what the job was.

Had no idea what Vince was looking for. Forget about Eric Pischoff in that role with that title. The title was executive director. Theoretically, the conversation going into it was it was essentially a showrunner in the TV industry, an executive director at that time would have been considered a showrunner. In fact, I made that point when Vince was trying to explain. to me. I used the term showrunner specifically to make sure I understood. The job is

he explained it. I was kind of excited about that because I knew what that meant in a general sense and being, basically overseeing every aspect of the show, starting with creative. When I got there, it was apparent to me that was not my job. I was a part of that process in some odd way because there was no official there was an official title but there's no real there in terms of day-to-day

things I was attempting to do other than at that time because of the premiere on Fox we were splitting the team we were splitting the talent you were splitting the writing teams and we never knew

Paul Heyman had Raw I had Smackdown neither or I Yeah. Neither one of us knew on any given week who our writers were going to be for the next two weeks because they were constantly being some shuffling them. Let's try it this way. Oh, it's going to be every week. We'd have a meeting. Okay, what are we doing? How we split up the writing teams. Oh, this is what we talked about last week. That's on. Okay. And we said, he'd stare at it and then say, no, no, no, let's move this guy we're here. Let's move this woman over here.

It's like, okay, let's go do that. Until next way. So it was, and again, there was a lot of other things going on. My ability to transition into that culture, which is a really different culture for me. I'd worked at Turner. That was a corporate environment. WWE was really more well buttoned up corporately than Turner was when I was there. Protocols, processes.

were more complicated or bureaucratic. In learning those processes and the people involved in them was a little bit like drinking out of the fire hoses, they saved it. So all of that was going on, but at the core of it, I realized that I made that decision and moved my wife to my dog to Connecticut and took that chunk out of my life because I made the decision based on long reasons. and I realize now that there's nothing I can do in professional wrestling that's ever going to bring me fulfillment.

Just not. Because I've done it. And I'm proud of what I've done. And unless I could do something that they could make me feel as excited as I felt back then about professional wrestling, I just can't do it. So a long-winded way of saying, I just don't have that.

desire to focus on that business any longer for Vince or anybody else. If I took a job like that, it would be taken for the wrong reasons and probably end up having the same results that I did in 2019. The real answer is I'm really just not interested enough to commit that much to that industry. As much as I respected and I'm grateful for it, that period of my life is in the rearview mirror and I enjoy every time I look in the river mirror and see it. Demons Row says Brett was a plan B champion. Never was a Hogan.

Without NW.O, there would be no stone cold. I feel like they speak on the NWO from a YouTube perspective. You had to be there. Respect to the OG Eric. Eric, we ran through a bunch of questions today, but I would like to hit two more before we put a button on it. Travis Medway says, Brett was a heel in the U.S.,

a facing Canada, and it was done great. I wonder if Sina could play pretend babyface the kids, treating them naively, mugging them off, playing ironic while pissing off the adults. That's interesting. Could that be done, Eric? Anything can be done, man. With the right ideas, the right crate, with the right imagination, there's nothing that can't be done with the right imagination. But this would be really, really hard. this would be really hard and it would be really really risky so i don't see it happening but it's an

interesting way you're just on fire tonight brother you're coming at me with some deep shit i love it cool you're going to like this question from chad weaver too eric he says good evening gentlemen mason city iowa here eric if you could go back and change one thing from your wcw days uh what would it be and why but yeah you're going to make one chain one pivot what would it be nothing positive i mean i would have left in 1998 when the idea first entered my mind because i was my instinct i am not the smartest person in the world trust me on that i am probably have a very average IQ had some unique experiences in opportunities, which are an advantage.

But I'm about as average of intelligence as you can get. But I don't know. I think everybody can figure that one up. I think everybody. Well, we're going to cut it off there. We realize we've got a handful of questions we didn't get to. If we didn't get to your question, stay tuned because we're going to do hangover and we'll do it again next week. So stay tuned.

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for free at save witheric.com. Eric, let's put a button on this week. Anything else you want to talk about as we bring this episode to a close anything else on your mind anything else you want to get off no i thought it was kind of exciting we saw the news today on social media that w wcw up on youtube yeah i think that's kind of cool i'm excited to see that it never ceases to amaze me when i do conventions and i see you know i have a 12 year old kid come up to me a little boy little girl oh man i love your stuff at wcd what no how could that be And inevitably, you know, they're finding this stuff on Peacock. And I think opening up and having it on YouTube, it's just going to keep a lot of great history.

Forget about me. I mean, Eddie Guerrero, Ray Mysterio's early matches, Steiner brothers at the top of their game, early Harlem Heat, Fader, one of the biggest big man in the business, Flair, Hogan's team, but all that stuff. and to have it so easily accessible on a platform almost everybody's familiar with around the world is just cool. It's cool for the families of guys who are no longer here. And they get to go back and watch their family members in some cases, you know, perform friends in my case, yours. So I think it's a really cool thing. I'm excited about it. Can't wait for us to talk more about it. I'm ready to pick this up with more questions.

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