83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff - Episode 366: The John Cena Promo "You Get Nothing"!
Episode Date: March 22, 2025On this LIVE edition of 83 Weeks, Eric and Conrad discuss and break down all the very latest in the world of professional wrestling. Plus, the guys take a deep dive into John Cena's epic address to th...e WWE Universe and hold it up to the impact of Hulk Hogan's promo from Bash At The Beach 1996. All that and Eric will be answer questions from our 83WEEKS.com LIVE audience. FACTOR - Eat smart with Factor. Get started at FACTORMEALS.com/FACTORPODCAST and use code FACTORPODCAST to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. STOPBOX - Get firearm security redesigned and save with BOGO the StopBox Pro AND 10% off @StopBoxUSA with code 83WEEKS at https://www.stopboxusa.com/83WEEKS #stopboxpod TUSHY - Over 2 Million Butts Love TUSHY. Get 10% off Tushy with code 83WEEKS at hellotushy.com/83WEEKS #tushypod CHUBBIES - Your summer wardrobe awaits! Get 20% off @chubbies with the code ERIC at www.chubbiesshorts.com/eric #chubbiespod MANDO - Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code 83WEEKS at shopmando.com #mandopod ROCKET MONEY - Cancel your unwanted subscriptions – and manage your money the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/83WEEKS ENVISION - Save money and grow your business with Envision Marketing—visit ConradsGuy.com today! MAGIC SPOON - Get $5 off your next order at https://magicspoon.com/83WEEKS Magic Spoon—hold on to the dream! BLUECHEW - Visit BlueChew.com and try your first month of BlueChew FREE when you use promo code 83WEEKS -- just pay $5 shipping.
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Hey, hey, it's Conrad Thompson, and you're listening to 83 weeks with Eric fish off, Eric, what's going on, man?
How are you?
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And I love it. I'm adding it to the list of all the fun stuff I could do to make myself feel
better. It's really fascinating. Breathing exercises are pretty good. But other that, I'm doing
great. And breathing well, having a good day. Well, we're excited to be live with you guys here
at 83 weeks.com. If you haven't already, be sure to hit that subscribe button, turn on the notifications
bell. You don't want to miss us the next time we're live. But if you've got a question for Eric,
throw them this way man we're going to talk about the good the bad and the ugly of professional wrestling
you know you and i haven't spent much time talking about it i do want to get your opinion
recently saw maria may have a fabulous match against tony storm at a ewe revolution
and i guess it created a bit of an online discussion
about women's wrestling what belongs and what doesn't and maybe where this one ranks all
time. A lot of people think this may be the greatest women's match on pay-per-view. Others say
maybe they took it too far. I can kind of see both sides on that. I mean, but this was on
pay-per-view, but what a spectacle it was. I mean, channeling her inner cactus jack there is
Tony Storm with a crimson mask, as Gordon Soli might say. What'd you think of this, Eric?
Did you see it? And what was your reaction? I didn't see it live.
I've certainly seen coverage of it.
You're probably going to hear me say this a lot, most likely today, if we're talking about
what's going on in current stuff and we're being fair about things and covering all things.
Look, nobody's going to be surprised.
It's not my cup of tea.
I think it's bad for the business in general, because I think it's just one more thing that
gives permission for people in the industry.
I'm talking about Madison Avenue,
the advertising industry and the agencies that represent them
and network executives.
It just gives them one more reason to have a bad taste in their mouth about wrestling.
And it doesn't draw money.
It's satisfying a certain percentage of the audience.
And I guess if that's your goal and you want to check that box,
and you're willing to go that far to do it, that's your business model.
The good news is it doesn't matter what I think,
or frankly, what anybody that thinks that's the greatest match ever told.
It really doesn't matter what our opinions are,
because at the end of it, the market will determine it.
If that kind of thing works, the audience will grow,
people will spend more money, the ratings will grow,
the networks will be happy, all strategic partners will be happy,
because the business is growing.
If the business is not growing,
this is probably going to be one example of why.
So the market will take care of itself and nobody's opinion really matters.
We'll find out in the long run.
It seems like everyone has an opinion about the big spot on dynamite.
Of course,
most everyone knows what I'm talking about.
John Moxley had a board filled with nails stuck to his back.
Live on Turner stations this past Wednesday as he was wrestling cope and we see now
if you're watching on YouTube, Wheeler, Yuda, trying to remove the nails from the back.
This is something I've never seen on television before.
I don't even think we can show this on YouTube.
Just go back and replay everything I just said and multiply it by five.
it's just whatever man if it works for that audience go with god i don't get it i don't see any
evidence that it's working um in terms of growth and audience uh and brands but it's just i don't
know man i used to think maybe it's because my tastes have changed so much that what really
works in my mind isn't really working with the audience but that's not it that's not it
this is a very specific audience that likes this kind of thing and like I said AEW check
that box in spades I want to ask you about somebody else that has been making some headlines
as you and our recording last night homicide had his last match for a long time wrestling
fan of the independence or maybe an old school TNA fan
you'd be very familiar with homicide, but if you're not a hardcore fan,
maybe you don't know the impact that he made on the wrestling industry.
The who's who of professional wrestling, credit homicide with a lot of their success.
Guys like Brian Danielson, see and punk, Samoa Joe, Eddie Kingston.
I mean, on and on and on.
He's been in there with a who's who.
But I guess the news is he's had some health challenges and maybe under doctor's advice,
he's going to call it a career and it feels kind of all of a sudden on a Thursday night
but if this is really it for homicide is he one of the great what-ifs in the history of wrestling
Eric I think so I had a chance to work with homicide for a bit in TNA and extremely talented
a joy to work with I mean couldn't be more cooperative um and and just when he turned
it on in the ring he was special uh so yeah sorry to hear that
that. It's such a, you know, anybody that experiences a health issue that becomes a crisis
at one level or another, that's horrible. It's really bad. It's scary. It disrupts your life
in so many different ways. Sometimes your career, stress on a family. It's a bad, bad, bad
situation for anybody. And then for a performer, professional wrestler, specifically, or an athlete,
to have both your health and the security of just knowing you're okay to get
walk back and do stuff and that's taken away from you and then oh by the way so is the
career and in many respects part of your identity because it becomes who you are as a professional
wrestler it has to or you know you wouldn't be able to get through it sacrifice a lot and it's such a
big part of your life that all of a sudden you're going to lose your health, status at least
for a period of time. Oh, and by the way, you're going to lose your career too. It's hard enough
for guys to walk away from the limelight, whether it's a rock and roll stage or a Broadway stage
or Hollywood set or professional wrestling ring. When you get hooked on that performance drug
and it's taken away from you abruptly, not by your choice, that hurts. And like I said,
health care on top of it so a lot of empathy for homicide he's a tough kid
I'm a kid there's a lot more kids around because I get older how they worked
but tough guy and uh wish him the best got speed shout out to homicide such a great
contributor to the modern wrestling scene and we hope that he buys peace and contentment post wrestling
we're live here with eric bischoff so if you've got a question for eric keep those
question that's coming and don't forget to hit that subscribe button turn on the notifications
bell let's go right to a question from aotv productions who says eric somerslam 2025
takes place at metlife stadium where senor rock two took place any chance the third match
happens there that's a good question what do you think eric could we see that happen later this
year maybe what if sena does become the champion and he wrestles rock at somerslam at
It feels like a big main event, doesn't it?
Of course.
And then what if Rock beats you?
He's got the title.
Now we've got Rock and Cody.
There you go.
Because the story, you could keep both stories going at the same time.
You could be building into,
you could be fighting his way for an opportunity to get to the Rock.
Yes.
And that story could last a year easily.
because what's the Rocks
name? Remember, the final boss?
Yeah.
We just booked it right here.
Come on. AOTV productions
has a great follow-up question. He says
Vince Russo has said
that he finds Triple H's creative
boring and he wasn't
intrigued until Rock and Growitz came back
in. Do you think he has a personal
grudge against him? What do you
think? Do you think Vince Rousseau has some
sort of vendetta with Triple
H? What do you think of that, Eric?
I don't know why he would.
He didn't work with him.
I mean, he worked with him, you know, as a part of the creative team with WWB, obviously,
but it's not, I don't know.
I can't imagine, but who knows?
You know, I just, sometimes I wonder,
if people just make up this drama in their head for something to talk about?
Is it just, is it just good commentary?
Is it something that he can go off on one of his New York rants
and get what he thinks is his character?
director over I don't know I guess must be working he's still doing it at some
level how is his podcast doing anyway is it is it is it a number oh no yeah he has
he has his subscribers it's his full-time job he does well with it good good for him he's
good at something okay that was a backhand to compliment Travis wants to know
Hey, down the triple, uh, triple threat mania match with Raines,
Rollins and punk doesn't have any real stakes, no title.
Surely Paul Heyman somehow becomes the jeopardy without any stakes should it
made event.
Has that match been officially announced?
Silva, if you know, Chalman audio wise, so we can hear you because I don't know that
that match has been announced.
No, not yet.
Okay.
I didn't think so.
So Super Dave knows him.
He said, he didn't say, no, it's not been.
advertise set up he said not yet well but here's the deal that has been mentioned since the royal
rumble it's been spoken about as if that three-way dance was going to happen i've never been
sold on this match though even though it's been long speculated and a lot of the others you know
people have nailed like cody and sena that was suggested a long time ago tiffany stratton
and charlotte clear that was suggested a long time ago but i think this one
one could still be in flux, I really wouldn't want to see them in a three-way.
You're not really saying the three ways, are you?
Well, I think three ways.
I've said it a bunch of times on his show.
My opinion, it's a cop-out.
Yeah.
Unless there are three really good stories that need to collide in the ring in order to
to come to an end, it's just an attraction.
It's, it's an excuse to get big names in the ring.
So you got headlines, so to speak, from a more promotional point to view.
These are your top guys and are all going to be in the ring at the same time.
But unless there's a reason for it, if you can't tell me why they're all in the ring
and why it should be a main event, then it shouldn't be a main event.
It's all about the why.
Why would they do that?
And then, no, you've got the issue.
I don't know.
Maybe I should just step back for a minute, think about it from a more positive.
angle. Let's ask the question. What would any three of those guys, how would they benefit
from being in the ring with each other from a perception point of view?
Short answer is they're not. They won't. Because we're already at such a high level.
Is Roman reigns going to become more over as a result of being in this match? Unless there's
someone kind of wacky, important finish. Is Rollins? Is punk? No, they're already as
I can say as over as they can get, but they're not going to benefit from this trifecta.
Well, if there's not one talent that's going to get over as a result of this, above the others,
if there's no motivation in that regard, why do it?
Because it kind of dilutes all three.
If there's no story, there's no emotion, because there's no why,
there's no reason for anybody to get behind it one way or the other,
then it's just an exhibition or it's just an attraction match.
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So listen, Eric, since we've gone live, there's been some breaking news.
Maybe to the surprise of no one, there's been a new signing to WWE today.
The news is out that Ray Phoenix is the newest WWE superstar.
that story was broken by Sean Ralph Sapp over at Pfeiffer.com
as he tweeted Ray Phoenix is officially signed by WWE
or details on both the English and Spanish select pages
so yeah I guess this isn't that big of a surprise
the rumor and innuendo is that he wanted out of his AEW deal
we had heard he was released I guess it was only a matter of time before he signed
but now the question is Eric do you make him a tag team
partner for Penta or do you keep him separate? What would you do if you had Ray Phoenix
fall into your lap today? Without knowing what their tag team landscape looks like or the
plans for it, you know, the next six months. So given that we don't know that, I would,
I would want to keep them apart until I figured out exactly. No, they may know. Look, this is
not a surprise to anyone, including
WWE. So let's just
be real about that.
I've known about this
months before it
showed up and in the press.
So he's been working at this for a long time.
And I'm sure WWE
was aware somehow
of the progress and
where they were all at.
They may already have a plan
or at least an idea,
a premise for a plan.
But if they don't,
keep your options open, there may be the right time to bring them together,
because that's what everybody would be kind of interested in seeing, I would think,
those that are familiar with those two and they're going to want to see them together as a tag team.
Well, don't give it to them right away.
If you know that's what they want to see, make them want to see it even more.
And that takes a little bit of time.
And then you could have, then you've got an option.
Bring them in, you could start out working together and whatever.
you can book that yourself. It's easy. But yeah, I'd hold a lot just to keep my options
open.
We've got a lot of questions here. We're taking your questions live here at 83 weeks.com.
If you've got a question for Eric, pay this up now. We want to hear from you.
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I asked this the other day when we had Lex Lugar with us, but I didn't feel it was appropriate.
But I guess I'll ask it now, Eric, a little forward.
Hey, Eric, Brian Last, who, if you're not familiar, Eric, is Jim Cornetsco host,
recently said he believes DDP is exploiting people instead of helping them
with everything being filmed.
How wrong is he on that?
Now, to be clear, I haven't heard Brian Last say this, but I don't know why this fellow
would make that up.
I mean, I guess I could understand that, you know, in wrestling, everyone wants to demonize
everything but in dallas sure has legitimately helped people it's hard for me to get behind
calling that exploitation erring huh the fuck i feel like he's firing people by filming
i gotta be careful because i my re at my visceral response and you can already imagine what
that's like if you can hear what's going on inside of my head right now you can
we don't know the context, right?
That could have been, those words could very well have been spoken,
but unless you kind of know the context of it,
I'm not one,
I am one to jump to a conclusion I'm trying not to be.
Right.
So let's just give Brian last the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah,
I'll not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Let's go there first.
Maybe he feels that way.
He's wrong.
And even just a little bit of,
of, I don't know, conscious thought and maybe a little bit of intellectual curiosity.
Like if you feel that way, maybe just go to his website and look for a reason that proves your
bias and improves the way you feel.
Just pull something off his website.
The problem is you won't find anything like that.
What you find is a lot of people telling you in their words how much DDP has helped them.
Yeah.
That's the only thing you're going to find.
mind. And if you say, well, yeah, of course he's only going to put good things on his website
because, you know, that's what people do. Okay, I'll give you that. You're right. Go to social media
because that's like the most toxic success pool in our culture. So, well, let's go there.
Nobody's going to just say nice things for the sake of nice things because that works.
So let's go and see if we can find anybody who has gone through DDP's program.
that has anything bad to say about DDP.
I shoot.
There you go again.
Can't do that either.
So maybe there's a little bit of thought
and given DDP the benefit of the doubt,
just talk to the people that he's worked with.
There's a lot of them that'll be happy to talk to you.
I'm sure they got a great story to tell.
And Jim Cornynana is a great storyteller,
so he'd probably appreciate it.
I don't mean that in a smart-ass way.
But, eh.
take it with a great insult well let's get the negativity out of our system a o tv productions
he clearly wants to be w downer today says hey eric chris cruz recently posted about how
lex luger mistreated him and he doubts that he's a different person does he just need to let
it go holding a grudge for 30 plus years is unhealthy and maybe we should be careful how we
answer this one because we know how litigious Mr. Cruz is.
I don't care about it.
They need.
Um,
I don't want to go off too far in this direction, but isn't it, this is, we know
what I did the interview with you and with, with, with, we did it and yeah.
I kind of told the story about how I, I judged him and I was angry.
at him? Yes.
Just
just didn't want to be
in the same room with him.
Because I judged him.
Because I thought I knew everything.
I was so sure
I was right.
Until I realized I wasn't.
Because I got to know Lex.
It's just, it's, and the reason
I'm not going to go off on Chris,
is because I, I've done that.
I've said stupid shit
like that.
Without having any
idea of who the person I was referring to who they really were, what they really went
through, what they really had to overcome. Sometimes it's not as obvious and drastic as what
Lexus had to go through. But still, to them it is. So yeah, it's unfortunate when people
are really quick to judge. And I take particularly particular umbrage at those who question
people's faith. That's really taking a little too far. Slowly roll, bro.
slowly roll
ask a bum is here with us live and he wants to know do you know nails
also got any main stories did you meet nails kevin walkolds when he came through
with wcw i think briefly he was known as the prisoner for one paper i know i i worked
with i worked with uh kevin in a wa there you go okay
want to hear funny why i do have a story i'm not the story guy i hardly ever have
stories because you got one i didn't travel on the road and you know nobody ribbed anybody in
front of me back in the locker like i miss all the good stuff right however
now you may have heard this story but when i went to work for a w a august of 1987 August
15th 1987 i remember it forever and i got first i got there and i got my job and i didn't they
didn't have an office for me. So I went into the TV studio, which is on the other side of the
building was split in half. It used to be a big Lutheran church. So the church, the worship area
became the studio and then the rest of the offices were the former classrooms and offices
and things like that. So those offices were all occupied and there was no office for me. So I built
with my own, with my own two freaking hands and hammers and nails and drills,
rulers, or tape measures, I had all the gimmicks.
I was like, Tim, the toolman.
And the reason that's important and the reason you don't know why it's so funny is,
I'm the least handy person you've ever met in your life.
My wife won't let me touch any tool other than a hammer.
Like, if it can be fixed with the hammer,
you i get to have a hammer other than that i'm not allowed to touch anything so but in spite of that
i took it upon myself to build myself in office so i got the two by fours in a drywall and i did a
damn good job those six or eight classes i took my senior year in shop at the end of the day just so
i could technically stay enrolled so i to get kicked off the wrestling team those suckers paid off
because I knew how to measure stuff.
I knew how to saw stuff.
I could hammer.
I could nail.
Awesome.
So I put three walls up, right?
Because it was back against the wall in the window.
And I was so proud of it.
It was like about the same size as the treehouse I'm in right now.
But it was really cool.
I painted it nice.
And I have a deer heads hanging up.
I got a big white tail, just a beautiful mound of a deer I got in Montana.
Beautiful, beautiful.
buck and i had that hanging in my office because i was proud of that buck and verna gregg
liked it makes me feel like part of the team because they're impressed with my deerhead and whatever
so anyway i'm all settled in and it's tv it's tv taping day right they had flown in all the talent
they did it once a month or twice a month they'd play all the wrestlers in from all over the place
ddp would fly up from florida and you know guys would come in and they would shoot interviews all day
long and we'd edit them into the respective TV markets that we were promoting it.
So it was like a full day or two of these interviews once or twice a month.
Anyway, they're doing the interviews.
So all the wrestlers are in there, they're cutting their promos and they're screaming
and they're yelling.
I'm like a week on the job, maybe.
I can still smell the paint on the walls that they just put up, right?
I'm sitting in my office.
I can't really concentrate on anything because everybody.
Everybody's threatening to kill each other.
Next time we see each other in Sioux City, Iowa, or whatever.
And I'm sitting up, but I'm just listening and laughing and just, wow, this is crazy.
All of a sudden, I hear Sheik and on LKC and Kevin O'Walkouts just yelling at each other.
And I'm going, wow, this doesn't sound like a promo.
I couldn't see anything.
All I could do is hear shit, right?
Going, oh, that's not a promo.
You could never say that on TV.
And sure is I get a thought out of my head.
and Sheik Adnan Elk.C.'s head went right through my brand new wall.
And I'm sitting in my office. I kid you not. I'm sitting at my desk. I'm sitting at my desk.
And I look up and all I see is the top of his head and I knew his chic because he still had his gimmick on.
What am I doing here? I mean, I'm used to this happening. This is this kind of stuff happening at closing time.
You know, it's some rat hole bar on the other side of town, but this is odd.
Yeah.
And it was Kevin.
Somebody, somebody ribbed Kevin either put his lights on and left him on so his battery was dead when he went out or some kind of, you know, Kurt Henning like rib.
Kurt wasn't there.
He was already gone with it.
Some kind of Kurt Handy like rib and somehow somebody put it the figure in the chic and it wasn't chic.
It wasn't chic.
Anyway, that's my story.
So yeah, I knew them.
That's why you got into WCW.
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tons of questions coming in here Eric and we got one from
Jake from the windy city and he says hi Eric general question are you a fan of
any other sports outside of wrestling I believe I heard you were a big NBA fan
years back what do you like outside of wrestling is there a sport that catches your attention
eric i i'm not a big NBA fan i'm in you know i like to watch the NBA during a
towards the end of the playoffs and obviously in the finals um i really don't watch it much
during the regular season i do enjoy watching the NFL uh it kind of is a little bit like
comfort food for my brain, I guess, just something I've always enjoyed doing.
But I don't do it as much anymore.
I'll watch maybe one game a week.
And even then, you know, I'm doing stuff while the game's on, so I'm not sitting there staring
at the screen.
But I do enjoy it, especially that time of year.
It's just part of fall.
So probably why I do it.
I love amateur wrestling, freestyle, Greco, mostly freestyle.
um i'm learning about cricket yes i said cricket oh hey now cricket yeah did you i mean
if you look into the popularity of the sport of cricket globally it'll blow your
freaking mind yeah and rott sandracian my soon to be podcast partner on our soon to be
named new podcast tentatively called stumps and bumps oh what a great name stumps for the cricket side
bumps for the wrestling side i love it right is one of the top cricket journalists in the world
i just saw a documentary on them they did in australia i'll send it to you unbelievable story
oh he sent me that yeah you got to see that it's it's only a half hour and you'll get why he is such a
a great, great co-host and while this is going to be so much fun, but what we're going to do
is Barack because he covers cricket and that's all year round, right? So it's, he's going
all the time, but he's going to be covering cricket and I'm going to be covering all things
WWE, just in terms of what's going on, breaking down matches, talking about pay-per-views coming
up, topical stuff, right? No, no, no dirt, no rumors in any window, no that, none of that.
It's just all going to be what's going on.
So Barat's going to be covered the cricket side.
I'm going to be covering the wrestling side.
And a reason we're doing this is because I learned that there's 355 million,
not wrestling fans,
WWE fans.
Wow.
And now that Netflix is landed in India, so to speak,
we just thought it'll be an opportune time to take advantage of whatever footprint I have.
Obviously, the footprint that Brat has.
We're going to target the show a lot for the,
You know, the cricket audience are going to give betting lines and all kinds of great information.
And we're going to all learn about the sport of cricket together because I'm learning.
It's a very amazing sport, really.
If you look at the history of it and its impact on different cultures and how the game is played in, the formats,
it's really quite a fascinating thing.
So, yeah, we're going to be doing that.
So cricket is on my list of things that I'm interested in in the world of sports.
The rest of it, man, sometimes I like watching gymnastics.
I'm always amazed at what people capable to do with the bodies.
It just fascinates me, particularly floor exercises.
It's my favorite.
It's about it.
Oh, yeah, you know, obviously, MMA.
Boxing sometimes.
I love the art of boxing, the science of it, footwork and all that.
But, you know, definitely MMA.
In your younger years, did you or Garrett ever do any amateur wrestling?
I did.
Really?
I wrestled. Yeah, I started wrestling in eighth grade.
Yeah, eighth grade while I was in Pittsburgh for two years there.
And then when I moved to Minnesota, the real estate agent that sold my parents
in the house, his son was the captain of the wrestling team in my new high school.
So the real, you know, because of the real estate agent, I was trying to sell my parents a house, right?
He was like, oh, you're a wrestler.
You're moving for Pittsburgh.
Okay, my son's captain of the team.
I'll get you two together.
He'll show you the ropes, you know, kind of make me feel at home.
And he did, and I did.
And so I started wrestling in Minnesota in 10th grade, all the way through my senior year.
And then after that, I wrestled for a couple years as an amateur in open, like, I don't even know if the AEU was still around.
It used to be kind of a sanctioning body for amateur sports.
uh and there was an aAU freestyle team and an aAU recco team and i wrestled for a couple years
on both teams and in tournaments um a lot of open tournaments and then i got into martial arts
and i kind of just lost my interest in wrestling i didn't have time to do both and it was no such thing
as mma back then so it's like pick one and now you get to do both yeah i mean i guess back then or
heck even now, like, if you have a lot of success in amateur wrestling and you don't go into
MMA, there's not really much to do besides it's called WWE, right?
Yeah, well, you can, you know, you look at a lot of the, you know, elite level amateur wrestlers
that, you know, are not going to make the Olympics or maybe that's not even their goal,
but they're not ready to hang it up yet.
and I'd like to make a couple of bucks doing it.
The other option is MMA.
And here's the truth from my perspective.
And it's not just as a fan,
not anything else other than just me as a fan.
I love watching the ground game in UFC because it is chess.
It is so intricate and nuanced.
It fascinates me.
But for the average, well, for a lot of the audience, not so much.
It's the striking, the kicking, the punching, the elbows, you know, stuff that you know really,
really hurts that you can relate to.
You don't have to have been in a match like that to understand it hurts.
And that's, you know, that's, that takes a lifetime to get good at.
Those guys who are good at both their ground game, jiu-jitsu, wrestling, whatever, and our great strikers,
it takes a long time to get that good.
So if you spent your entire life from the time you were probably five or six years old,
like a Kurt Angle might have,
somebody that starts out young and makes it to that elite level,
you've probably been wrestling almost all of your life.
And you've gotten very good at that,
but you haven't learned the other skills that you need to learn to compete
at the super high level in the UFC or MMA.
So you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
can get there. You can get into the UFC with a great ground game, but I don't know how far
you're going to get if you haven't spent an equal amount of time going to go with your hands
of your feet. It's tough. So that you're right. There's not a lot of options. I mean,
there are some tournaments that you can win some money at and things like that, but, you know,
not like a pro football player or basketball players. Those options aren't available.
I want to give a shout out again to Lex Lugar, who recently joined
here at 83 weeks.com. We had a fabulous time chopping up with him. Of course, it was recently
announced that he's the latest announcee as to be inducted into this year's edition of the
WWE Hall of Fame. But there's a bit of a controversy online this week, Eric.
Of course there is. It wouldn't be professional wrestling if it wasn't some controversy.
Some drama. Give us drama. We need drama. I think it was reported by Sean Ross Sapp and the
folks over at Bifle, that the WWE was planning to make overtures.
If they haven't already, the CFAEEW would allow Sting to induct Lex Lugar
into the Hall of Fame.
Of course, we found out here at 83 Weeks.com that Lex's preference is to have
both Sting and Diamond Dallas Page induct him into the Hall of Fame.
And I guess Lugar and those close to him have informed WWE that
Sting is the preferred choice to induct him.
and it's worth noting, according to Fightful,
that Sting had told people he probably wouldn't do it
because it was the EW deal.
And now there's a lot of speculation.
I guess I maybe kicked the Hornets Nest
because I quote tweeted it and said,
Hey, I know we counterprogrammed your stadium show
with a free Saturday night's main event
and booked the whole tour around your London show.
But can we borrow one of your talents for our thing?
I know it defies all logic to even entertain the idea of helping us out,
but it'd be cool if you did.
And over 400,000 people had a strong opinion of that tweet.
It feels like it was a little silly to me.
What do you make of this report?
It falls into the stupid shit category for me.
It's just silliness.
First of all,
WWE
I don't want to say this because it'll come off wrong.
But the person that wants Sting to induct him isn't Triple H.
It's Lex Lugar.
It's not Nekon, it's not Ari Emanuel.
It's Lex Lugar.
That's his privilege.
It should be.
It's important to him.
So if I were Tony,
Even in light of the real and perceived pissing contests that they're all in,
from time to time, if I was Tony and positioned the way Tony is positioned right now,
I would be the bigger man.
If Tony believes, like Dave Belcher suggests, well, you wouldn't do it for me,
so I'm not going to do it for you, if you're going to take that kind of
infant attitude to your business, then you're going to get what you're going to get.
If I'm Tony Kahn, and I really believe that, like they're the bullies and have been beating
me up and trying to run circles around me and disrupt my tours and my big events.
And if I really believed all that, now is the time that I would prove I'm bigger than that.
If he really believes that they're trying to attack him personally or his company personally
from a business perspective and everybody knows that because he likes to tell everybody that as
often as he can this is a great opportunity to counterpunch and come off looking like
the better man because you're not doing it for wwe you're doing it for lex luke that's what
would make the better man just might do sense we want to hear from you guys we've got a poll
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We got a question here from Instagram, a wrestling historian who says,
How are you going to end the Millionaire's Club versus the New Blood storyline
If you hadn't left WCW in 2000
I don't even remember
Which tells you two things
One is I can't remember stuff from 25 years ago that well
And
It wouldn't have been very good
I knew it.
It was awesome you'd remember.
Yeah,
we'd be talking about it for the next 20 minutes,
and I'd be getting little notes of my comments here.
Would you shut the hell up so we could get an ad in?
I love it.
I love it.
John wants to know.
Jump away,
Eric.
He straight up said,
DDP doesn't help people unless he can film and exploit them word for word.
Last is a terrible person.
I don't know where all this Brian last hate is coming from.
Again,
I didn't hear this,
but I think we.
disagree but maybe that's because Brian doesn't know Dallas maybe he's just
what he sees online and he's sure it's it's hey look it's easy to jump I mean
if if you're if that's the way your brain works right usually people that
look for the worst and other people have a lot of ship they're dragging around
themselves which is why they're looking for a reason to feel better about
themselves because they know they got their shit to deal with.
But whatever.
If you're looking for a reason, you can probably create one in your head.
But I just know he's wrong.
It's so easy to judge people without knowing him.
I just know that he's wrong.
It's almost silly.
Look, is DDP a incessant self-promoter?
Yep.
Has he been that way for the first time I ever was in a room with him?
Yeah.
In fact, it's gotten worse.
It's not gotten better.
Stop.
But guess what?
He's nonstop promoting something that, yes, it does help people.
Now, Brian is adding the little twist that there's some kind of a,
some language in the contract that says, unless I'm able to exploit you, I'm not going to help you.
I don't think that's probably there.
I can't imagine this.
But that's what Brian is suggesting.
that he's only going to help you if he can exploit you.
I know that not to be true.
And I think it's an unfortunate position today.
And fortunately, it's one of the things I love about podcasts, not just ours, but everybody's.
Because now everybody's got a platform.
Everybody can call each other's bullshit out.
Have at it.
You'll go a long way before you're going to find anybody that's got a bad thing to say about
time in Dallas page.
But you go ahead.
Well, said.
uh sky legend 96 has a question here hey eric if you were booking john seen this last match
who would you put him up against and why let me jump start you there was a suggestion made recently
by mr tom carlucci and he suggested randy orton probably got to be one of the last matches
Ooh. I mean, I'm a Randy Orton fan. I think Randy Orton is one of the best talents of our era.
Overall, he may not have made the most money and probably came damn close.
Consistency really matters after 20 years of being on top.
But as far as being an overall performer, I love his promos.
Sometimes he doesn't have the greatest material to work with, but when he does,
nobody more believable, his entire body is a freaking entertainment weapon.
He's built like he came out of some kind of AI central casting application.
hey, build me a wrestler that looks like a Greek god but has a great-looking guy,
but it's also really intimidating.
Oh, it can act and wrestle too.
And then he spits out of Randy Orton.
I mean, he's so fluid.
That's the thing that really, the rest of the things that I'm talking about are really important.
But he is so fluid in the ring that he makes it look so easy.
More than anybody else.
that I watch
he's so fluid
yeah that would be great
I watch it I may even go watch that one live
we've got the results of our poll
in and it turns out that 73% of the folks watching here
who voted in our poll at 33 weeks.com
said if they ran the AW they would let sting
and duck Lex Lugar into the WB Hall of Fame
only 3% said they would
would not let Sting and Duck Lex and 24% so they'd have no choice but to let him go
as the PR optics would be so bad if they said no I mean I said this the other day on
Twitter I think it's inevitable that Tony Kahn says yes and allows this I don't
even know that he's been asked yet but there'd be some there could be some
compromise perhaps don't be surprised if you
that. And by compromise, meaning maybe he'll be there alive, maybe he won't,
maybe some representation of staying there. But I hope he's there live. I really,
really do. I think Tony would gain so much goodwill from people who have lost faith or
just kind of been disappointed. And there's a lot of them out there. You've got to be real
about life. Now, there's a lot of people that wished AEW would have lived up to their
expectations. This is a chance to do a make good in that department. I really, I mean this
sincerely. I hope. I hope that's because Lex will be the ultimate winner. Tony will come
in a very close second. I got to ask, this made the rounds. A lot of people were kind of
surprised at the beginning of the week when it started to circulate that Vince McMahon sat
courts on for a Knicks game on St. Patrick's Day.
Thank God.
If you wouldn't have thrown in the same Patrick's State part, I would have thought,
what in the hell did he hit his head on?
With that shirt, not a fan of that shirt.
I mean, that's bright green.
Come on.
I mean, I get one and get a little of attention, but you're wearing fluorescent green
setting next to a bright red ginger.
Like, who's watching the game?
it was kind of for real to see Vince make public appearances last month at the Super Bowl
this month at the next game what do you think can we read anything into that he's
normally been a pretty private person it feels like we're seeing him out and about with
his girlfriend more often now and I think even Shane and his grandson Declan were there
is this strategic did Vince want to be photographed and after being such a
private person for so long it feels like we're sitting courtside you know they're going to acknowledge
you right that's why you sit inside it's not like he's got season tickets right so that that was a
there was a lot of intention there he's working i don't know what he's working at but he's working
otherwise he could be like on a yacht he could be on an island he could be traveling the world
in his own jet he could a million different things
And I've never, in all the years I've been aware of Vince McMahon, other than the
XFL experiment, I've never really in bodybuilding, of course, I've never really associated
him as much of a sports fan.
That's exactly why I asked, because it feels weird, Super Bowl last month, next, this month.
That's like, I don't know about that.
Let's show that photo again.
He looks like, I don't know if you're a sopranos fan, he looks like Benny Walnuts right
here but a polly walnuts that's viny walnuts right there i i like that uh tulsi gabbard
thing he's got going on the hair i don't even know you don't know who telson gabbard is
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Hey, I wanted to bring it up to you.
Of course, it's the talk of the internet going right now.
John Cena did his promo this past one day, and it was live on Raw.
Of course, Raw was international.
So it aired in the afternoon, and we had a raucous crowd for John Cena's promo.
And of course, you and I have broken down.
and basically a dozen different ways.
The iconic speech where Hulk Hogan turned heel
at Bash at the Beach, 1996,
he dropped the big leg on Randy Savage.
But that's not what people talk about.
It was the promo afterwards in the ring.
All the garbage was flying into the rank.
That's what people remembered.
That's what people talked about.
Well, we finally heard from John Cena,
not an elimination chamber, but a couple of weeks later.
And it happened this past Monday
on an international show, Eric.
I bring that up to you because I don't know that everyone has put this together.
Yes, it was a hot and lively crowd,
but English wasn't their first language.
I can't help but wonder what his promo had more heat
and felt more significant if they actually understood what he was saying,
Eric.
Do you think?
Yeah.
Wow.
now let's explore just for a moment benefit of the doubt perhaps but i know you go to europe now
you go to germany 70% of the people you meet on the street speak english to do one degree
another it's not a second language but it's damn close it's it's almost mandatory in grade school and
high school. It's not an option like foreign languages. I don't know what they're like now,
but it used to be an option. You didn't have to take one when I went to high school. But in Europe,
it's been mandatory for 40 years that I'm aware of. It's it was. So you got to assume they
kind of understood, but certainly not to the, and then you've got the audio issue. Even if you
You know how it is when you're at the airport?
If you're having to be in an airport, you get somebody on that's native tongue is not English
and they've got a heavy accent wherever they are.
It's, you know, you got the audio, you know, because it's not the greatest speakers in the airport.
You can't hear all that well anyway, even if it's perfect English and an accent you're used to.
So that could be it.
It could have been lost, some of that promo, a lot of that promo and the emotion just should go
with it.
It could have been lost on that audience between.
mean the audio and the English challenge.
Yeah.
So we should have thought of that one.
Well, I'm of the opinion.
The reason they did it over there is because John Cena is in Europe
shooting a movie.
So maybe it was a necessity for his shooting schedule that they did this
tour and that way it makes sense.
But I couldn't help but wonder,
man, if he would have done this promo for Madison Square Garden,
what would the heat have been like?
Well,
special man since we're just there
yeah yeah now you're right man isn't that fascinating
no let's back up for just a second so think about the
commitment that was made here for seen it to be able to be a part of
wwe right now because they knew he had this movie this just didn't get
booked that's not how that's right that's right so they probably had this on the
books for over a year well at least pennsylvania for over a year
John did.
So WWE went, huh, well, the only way we're going to make this work is if we create a tour around his movie schedule.
That's when you know you're over.
That's when you know you're over.
When they create a tour overseas to work around your movie schedule.
You're over, brother.
Hands off John Cena.
you know i will say i was disappointed that we didn't really hear the why i mean we know why
he turned his back on the fans but we didn't hear why he attacked cody we didn't hear why he
aligned himself with the rock in charles d griffith is with us here live and he says am i the only
one who thinks besides cina roads the buildup for mania four weeks out has been kind of cold
it looks like a lot of triple threats at mania i'm seeing this critique a lot eric
but even i have to say as much as i'm looking forward to sing john sena and cody rhodes
at russomania i don't know that the sina match made me want to see or the scene of promo
made me want to see that match anymore do you think they have time to correct it down the road
or is that the story they plan to tell sure what they got four weeks of tv yeah so sure
if they agree that that's a problem.
And I do agree with it was either you or the man who asked the question.
There was no, I said the same thing to myself.
I read, why?
I mean, I'm in.
I want to see it.
Give me a reason why that I can feel comfortable with.
It doesn't have to be an overwhelming motivation, you know,
Right.
There's got to be a reason why.
And if you start an angle out and that element of the story, that inciting incident,
that thing that happens that sets you upon your journey,
if that's a dud, it's a little harder to gain that momentum later on.
You need to start out strong with a why that people can relate to.
Understand, connect with whatever.
And I agree with you.
It was exciting.
John's seen his turning heel.
Oh, the potential.
But there wasn't anything dramatic about it other than the fact that he turned heel.
It was interesting.
Even, you know, and I did see the clip of his promo.
I didn't see a lot.
I saw the clip of it.
Okay.
I mean, the delivery was great, but just,
the message was kind of weak for that hope
did you like the idea of keeping the look and the feel the same
and going with the more human approach of you guys turned your back on me
or would you have liked to have seen a persona change like we sort of talked about
like if he was bald and changed his gear and maybe he had the scruffy jeans or
whatever you described, maybe the John Moxley look.
Would you have preferred to see them switch the look up or did you like keeping the look the same?
I think it's a really interesting question and my view has changed.
You know, going in, I was hoping that I would get a, a look, a different look for John's
character that somehow represented this new, you know, character in some way, shape, or form.
I didn't know what that is necessarily.
But I think they're doing it the right way for John.
Because here's the downside.
If you completely change his character over, it's almost too drastic.
It's almost too, it's not authentic at all.
There's absolutely no degree of authenticity when you go in the room,
dress like one character, and you come out of the room,
dress like another without a reasonable amount of time and transitions.
it just becomes jolting, creatively speaking, without a reason.
And therefore, in the process of doing that, you lose any connection to authenticity.
It didn't feel organic, didn't feel like it was happening in front of our eyes as we're on this journey.
It just happened.
Like you walked in and looked in one way, walked out, look at another disconnect.
So I probably, a week ago or two ago, I would have said, give me a different look.
but I think especially with the creative that they're giving him is they're giving
them kind of nuanced creative there's no why so we got to look for the reason which
means it's a nuanced motivation and I think keeping him in that same character the way
they've introduced this story probably the best idea well the best idea is for you to hit
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Eric, I do want to follow up. You know, when you think about
this match with John Sina and Cody Rhodes, as it is now, we'll call it a month
out, four weeks out. Would you switch the title here? Would you let John Sina make history
and become the 17th time world champion, maybe with some help from the rock and set up
some future business? Or do you think it's important that Cody retains at this
show Eric? I don't think it's important that Cody retains. I think what's important is there's a
great story that leaves everybody better off than they were when they started. That's entirely
doable here. And I think we could go back to the brief discussion we had a little while ago
about Sina Rock. Let let Sina take it off, Cody, let Rock take it off, Cota, let Rock take it off
Sina, bring Cody back, if that story is laid out and committed to in a way that everybody
believes it's going to happen, I think that would be awesome.
You get the next year booked.
You're not even there yet.
You haven't even gotten on a plane to go to Vegas in your next year's already booked.
Could be.
So in that scenario, would I see John getting the belt?
Yeah.
I would.
be interesting it'll be good for Cody a lot of look you're not going to get in my humble
fucking opinion wow you're not going to get a lot more over than he is staying on top but he's such a good
baby face, such a good face for the company, he'll get more over getting it back than he will
holding on to it. That's the best way to say it. He'll get more steam, more momentum,
more opportunity to get himself over in a different way if he's chasing that championship
for the next 12 months as opposed to defending it. So that's your fucking opinion.
And you have a non-fucking opinion.
No.
My opinion is a fucking opinion in either case.
All right.
Let me ask you this.
Real question.
Actually, pop question.
What's the worst you think you're nuts ever smelled?
Junior high school wrestling team.
Brutal, brother.
Brutal.
And it had everything to do with my jockstrap.
Because I didn't take it home every day to wash it.
So that, it was.
I mean, that thing would hang in my locker.
Not just me, everybody was like, yeah, I don't know, just hang it up.
It'll dry out.
Yeah.
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I'm sorry.
Did you?
You missed some great stuff.
I said she actually created it because your jockstrap smelled that bad.
Oh, yeah.
Well, she might heard about it.
In fact, you know, I'm looking at her age thinking I, you know,
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Travis Medway wants to know.
WWE tickets are so high.
Eric, did you have a say in ticketing prices for WCW?
WWE even has crowds cheering for paying high.
prices are the current high prices short-sighted yeah let's start with the last
question first do you think WWE has priced themselves out of the market is their
price increase and the level they're at now short-sighted just to give you some
context Eric if you'd like to have lunch with John Cena at WrestleMania you can do
that for $25,000 if you'd like to get Steve Austin to sign a sheet of paper for you
and write Stone Cold Steve Austin on it, that'll be $800.
If you'd like to have a beer with Mickey James and Austin Theory, that's only $8,000.
Now, if you'd like to get a photo with Lex Lugar and Triple H at the same time,
just running a cool $8,500.
You can even watch one of Sean Michael's favorite matches with Sean Michaels,
the low low price of $8,000 per person.
And I guess there's some people who think, maybe they've priced themselves out of the market.
what do you make of this here we've seen crazy high prices like this at comic cons and
the UFC and now we're seeing it for w to be maybe not surprising under the tk o banner
what do you make of this eric good for them um here's what do you know you've priced yourself
out of the market when you stop selling tickets there it is come on now
just i mean it's just the answer to the question it's so easy
And the first part of the question was, did I have any say? Yeah, I did. I did. I, you know,
I relied on Zane Bresloff and it's pretty much it when it came to ticket pricing.
Because Zane had his finger on the pulse. Zane knew what the wrestling market could sustain.
He was well aware of WWE pricing. So we had to be cognizant of that.
Couldn't go do our own thing. So yeah, I had some say, but, you know, I left it up to
other people uh a tv production says i wonder if we can set up a meeting with
vince russo and eric so eric can tell him how wrong he is you've said it before have you
yeah i thought you'd say that why would i do that what would it wouldn't be fun i have no need
to explain myself in any way shape or form to him and there's absolutely nothing he can say
that would change the way I feel about anything in life, anything.
So given that, why would I spend five minutes?
I would spend five minutes with anybody that fell into that category.
Josh Henney says I was at Omaha Wednesday in a match tape went to a time limit draw,
not hearing the commentary, the finish killed the audience.
Eric, what do you think of the time limit draw?
I mean, we used to see this all the time back in the day, but.
I remember when they were doing them in house shows back in the day, the ring announcer,
you know, you probably remember this, Eric, 10 minutes past, 20 minutes remaining.
And then you get closer and closer, five minutes remaining, one minute.
So that added to the drama.
But if they did that on television, and again, I haven't seen it, without that going through
the house, I could see how that would take you out of it if you don't know that there's
this added sense of urgency that the audience at home knows.
right absolutely absolutely and i like the idea look there was a time and this is you know
after i got the w i was still talent or still just a talent this is before i got into management
but looking at the wcdb format and just talking through it you know with with either jim ross
or tony shivani or keith mitchell or dusty i talked a lot to dusty um
I liked a format that mixed things up enough where you couldn't you couldn't predict every single thing.
You know, wrestling is so formulaic in many respects, like any story is.
They all have a formula.
Really, really good stories have really, really defined and discipline formulas and stories that connect them.
And wrestling does too.
You get into a familiar pattern, the way you set a match up, angle going into it,
the promos after it.
Everything starts developing a rhythm that's unique to whoever the writing team is.
And it's always nice to break that rhythm up because you get people used to that rhythm,
they start feeling like they can predict what's going on.
And sometimes it's just subconscious.
They just see the same pattern so often.
and before long, they feel like there's not going to be anything surprising.
So it's nice to do something that just kind of breaks that chain of monotony.
Just cut a link short.
No, we can one of the links.
So it's, whoa, that's different.
Okay, I got to pay attention.
Why did that happen?
I know that seems like really, really nuanced and maybe sounds stupid to sell,
but you've got to figure out a way to break up monotony.
of wrestling is if you really sit down and think about it, you're seeing, I don't know how many
moves we see during a show, unique individual moves that you only see once during the course
of a show. It would be a real interesting exercise to watch an entire episode. Okay, we've got to
have some interns out there. Somebody that's out there that watches wrestling, that loves wrestling,
that has the time.
Maybe they're AI masters, so I challenge you.
You can go to Ericbishop.com, contact me,
leave me your email address and tell me how you would do this.
But how would you watch a show?
Let's say Smackdown.
So you Smackdown first.
Use AEW, either one, whatever your favorite show is.
Watch it and track every single individual move you see during the course of a show.
It would be hard, but do that.
I wonder how many different moves you see through the course of a show.
I wonder if it's like really only six.
Or maybe it's 60.
I don't know.
I've never thought about it that way.
But something tells me that if somebody actually does this,
we'll be shocked at how many times we see the same move over and over and over again.
Now, it's performed by different people in different.
situations with different impacts or effects or whatever but in terms of the move sets
you just don't see a lot of different moves so anytime you can break up that monotony in any way
the better because otherwise wrestling starts feeling too predictable and that's one of the things
wrestling fans i talked about this and some of the research that we did when we launched nitro is one
of the things that fans talked about how much they love is spots and aides and surprises the thing
that they got bored with the most is when it got predictable.
Venice Beach Dub says,
Breaking News,
Brian Cage injured an OWA show in Hollywood.
Looks like a blown quad.
I haven't seen or heard that.
I don't know if I believe that.
But he did say questions for Eric.
Can you talk about WCW Cruiserweight Blitzkrieg?
I don't know if you've seen this Eric,
but Blitzkrieg almost became like an internet sensation.
People became obsessed with his story.
It was like he came out of nowhere.
was received pretty well as an innovative high flyer and then poof he was gone we've
heard things like oh he was a computer programmer and he just left the business do you
remember blitzkrieg at all oh no i mean the name sounds familiar like but it's
no it's no it's what i heard it from but i don't remember the individual i think his last
match believe it or not was actually October of 99 it was a thunder and then he was done
over at cagematch.net they've only got 53 matches for him it was like you only had a handful of
matches and then poof he's uh on wcdb programming so yeah we got to get to the bottom of blitzkrieg
one day if you're listening to this and you know about blitzkrieg and where he's out these days
we'd love to chat with him speaking of chatting with him i don't know if we've promoted
to announce this yet. In the coming weeks, we're going to be catching up with Mark
Merrow. He's got a brand new book out. I can't wait for you to read it, Eric. It's quite a
page turner, and he pulls no punches. He's brutally honest. A lot of times in wrestling books,
you got to wonder, is this a corporate book? Are they taking care of the company? Do they have
an axe to grind? Are they going to deflect? Mark Merrow tackled every tough subject,
and I mean all of them head on in the book. I highly recommend.
end it. It's available now on Amazon, but I'm looking forward to you guys chatting because
we actually sort of freestyle the other day on 80 or on ad free shows.com. What if he wouldn't
have left? You know, he leaves in March of 96. Two months later, Scott Hall comes down the stands
and the NW ball starts rolling. It would have felt like he could have been a got to sort of
wave the banner for WCW. And he would have been with the company when they went from
to the number one wrestling company in the world, but instead he switches teams and
well, it just didn't end up exactly how he hoped.
That'll be an interesting conversation, you and him catching up here, don't you think?
Yeah, and we haven't spoken to each other, even socially, you know, because I see people
all the time and I was in New York last weekend and, you know, I did get a chance to talk to
Rick because he had quite a big line and I didn't.
but we didn't get a chance to connect.
Talk to him this morning, though.
That was interesting, fun.
But we see each other
at these different conventions and autograph signings,
but Mark is one guy that I've just never crossed paths with since
you and I had a conversation in the airport
and he told me he wanted to leave to go to WWE.
So it'll be a really great time for me personally,
great experience for me, to reconnect with Mark.
I think Mark, and I know this because,
a mutual friend who shared it with me recently that Marcus kind of felt like he had heat with
me and that's not true but I'd like to know why he felt that way and I'll ask him that
question but yeah I'm looking forward to it'll be a great conversation I'm very excited
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Uh, fixed dream Bob wants to know.
Eric, did you ever have any interaction with Jamie Kilner when he was
ahead of Fox or the WB?
Of course, we know what he did to WCW at the very end, but did you cross
pass with him at Fox or WV?
I did not.
I did not.
I, you know, I knew who he was, obviously, but I had never had an occasion to
meet him or in a meeting with him or anything.
82 atlantic has a kind of a weird question when you parted ways with wb in 2019 what happened with the lease on your connecticut apartment were you forced to pay rent on the remaining months no it was a short-term lease and i think uh i had like two or three months uh left we were looking at another apartment a bigger one uh in a different building so we had just uh
I found a apartment that we were going to move into, but we had like two months to do it.
So, no, and it was, WWE was paying for it anyway.
Whatever it was left in a lease was a WWE obligation, not an Eric Bischoff obligation.
But I think there was only about two months left.
And I had the option to stay in that one if I wanted to, and WWE would have kept paying for it.
But it was, don't get me wrong, it was not a bad place, but it was a corporate apartment.
furniture wise and everything. So no way I could stay there.
Liquid Fox says, Hey, Eric, you were one of the best heels that you ever want to be a face in
WWE, or is it true that it's more fun to play the heel?
I couldn't tell you because I've never played a baby face.
So I don't have anything to compare it to.
But for me personally, I can't imagine being a baby face.
I can only relate to being a heel
because it's
and part of it is because I'm not a wrestler
how do you
how does a baby face non-wrestler get over
eh
weak shit
not interested doesn't feel right
it's just not possible really
if you don't have that
you know physical threat to
back it up and keep people on their toes
just too I don't even know if it's possible certainly isn't for me sure
Virgil Dawkins says if WWE did decide to relaunch WCW as a brand alongside
raw at Smackdown who in w.E would you like to see on the roster and would you
ever be involved if asked okay now that's interesting let's say they announced that
they're bringing WCW the brand back and your phone rings and that's
our great, close personal friend Bruce Pritchard, who says, hey, Eric, what if those famous
Bruce Pritchard words, how would you receive that?
Depends what follows the what if.
Okay.
It, I can't imagine it.
I mean, it's fun to think about, don't get me wrong.
Like initially, my first, as the neuropathways in my brain start firing and flooding
with information.
of course, I'm going to go, wow, that'd be fun if it was 20 years ago or if it was 15 years ago.
But now, oh, I'm good, good.
That part of my life, I say this with so much joy and respect and gratitude, mostly gratitude.
I'm so grateful for that time of my life, but I absolutely have no need to relive any.
of it at all other than what we do here. This is fun. I like doing this. But I don't feel,
you know, you hear me talk about that performer's itch. I think I've scratched that. I think
I'm good. I'm grateful for every minute of it, but I don't feel that need anymore that I probably
would have five years ago or 10 years ago or 15 years, certainly 20 years ago, but not anymore. And it,
And taking that aside, what would that look like?
I mean, there's no talent left.
No Goldberg's, you know, touch and go.
He's still waiting to get cleared.
What else is there?
There's nobody that represents WCW that's still active in the rain.
Now, could you come up with a second generation of or, you know, some kind of a tribute to WCW thing?
Could it be done?
Of course it can be done.
But would I be interested in doing it?
Absolutely.
I'd be interested in watching it.
Sure.
But not being a part of it.
Let's do an old WCW question.
SDO is with us here live and he says,
Hey, Eric, who do you think should be Goldberg's last send-off match?
And where does he rank in all time over baby faces?
Let's start with the last one first.
What do you think of great baby faces in the history of
wrestling is Goldberg in your top five top 10 from 1990 whatever for the two years or three
years that 98 99 maybe yeah yeah he was hot down he was one of the top baby faces in a
business at that time in some respects not in all respects but in some you didn't have the
merchandise sales of stone cold C boss and clearly didn't have the paper buys of
Stone Cold C-Bossohn, clearly.
But ratings-wise, yeah, we were at neck-and-neck, 97, 98, even early 99, I think.
No, I think by 99, we were hurting.
But yeah, for a period of time, but if you look at the last 20 years,
he's not in the middle.
He's in the middle of the pack in the last 20 years.
A lot of talent.
Now, that's not fair.
I would say upper third.
but there's been a lot of great talent that's come through there and gotten really over
in the last 10, 15 years.
But during that, but during that two-year period, man, he was, he was a, yeah.
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shut out to Derek Alex says was there any consideration to put the big gold belt on
Booker T in 9798 was that a missed opportunity or did his WCW career go as it should have
and I want to remind you Eric I know you probably already know this booker T is actually the
most decorated wrestler in WCW
history. No one won as many
championships in WCW as Booker
T. So when you're saying, did his
career go as it should have,
I know he didn't win the big gold belt until the very
end there, uh,
goodness gracious.
He had every belt, right,
Eric?
He did.
And he got a tremendous amount of TV time.
He got himself over.
Took advantage of every opportunity and he
made the most of every opportunity because he's a pro.
But to suggest that we missed an opportunity by not doing something other than what we were doing in 97 and 98 doesn't make a lot of sense.
It was a missed opportunity for perhaps for Booker because wouldn't that have been nice to be able to just get plucked right in the middle of the hottest roster that would,
was making more money and generating more revenue and more ratings than anybody in the world
at that time. And yeah, to be plucked out of the upper third and be pushed right on top would
have been a great opportunity for Booker, but wouldn't have a smart business move. And a long
right, I don't think it would have been good for Booker. It was not that Booker didn't have the
talent and the ability, but just where WCW was and where the audience's head was at and just
where NWO was, could it have been done? Sure.
Is it a missed opportunity?
I don't buy that.
It was an opportunity, but I don't think it was a better opportunity
than some of the ones that we had at that time.
Eric, I saw some silly reports earlier today.
I don't know if you saw these,
but have you seen the reports that they're actually going to start
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So if you were using something like Uber Eats or DoorDash or something like that,
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I don't know if you've seen that,
but I've seen some funny tweets online that say things like the year is 2026.
I have now defaulted on my burrito loan.
I mean, can you believe this is where we're doing, how this is going right now?
And it's what we need is more debt, right?
I mean, as a country, come on, don't we need new ways?
Let's invent some ways to keep people completely financially underwater for the rest of their lives.
If it wasn't enough that we could force him into near bankruptcy with the cost and the ease of access to student loans,
if it's not enough that we send a doctor out of medical school with a half a million dollars of loans and he's never going to be able to pay back,
let's make him go into debt for eating the only thing he can afford to eat which is a
freaking burrito and a hamburger because he's got to put that on his credit card all right
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We got a question here from Fat Factor.
He wants to know Eric regarding cricket.
It's the world's biggest league, the IPL, and it's starting tomorrow.
Who is your team this year?
I don't have a team this year.
I'm going to learn, I'm going to determine my team this year once I get.
By the way, the show is going to air tentatively scheduled for April 18th.
So that's penciled that in, April 18th.
Right before WrestleMania.
Yeah, right before, you know, we're going to celebrate WrestleMania.
Hopefully we're going to be ready by that.
And we're going to kick it off on Friday, April 18th.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
I'll be taping the show in the morning because I'm going to be going to the Hall of Fame that night.
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So I'll be taping the show Friday morning and we'll be released shortly thereafter.
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I'm Alex wants to know what's the most painful bump you've ever taken?
Off the stage,
Kane,
when he chokeslam me off the stage.
And it was minor.
It was self-inflicted.
Because I didn't know how to take a bump,
especially off the stage.
And,
I made a rookie mistake as I was going down.
I was concentrating on tucking my chin and all that.
But I reached back to try to find the floor before I hit it.
And when I did, I broke my thumb.
Stupid rookie move.
That was it.
Other than that, I never, ever.
I took a power bomb from Sid that loosened me up pretty good.
If you go back and look at that, you'll understand.
what I mean.
That and I took a spear from Goldberg in WWE and I should have positioned myself in the
center of the ring, but I kind of paced when I cut promos and I move around a lot,
trying to face as many different directions to the audience as I could.
And I had worked myself back towards the corner, too close to the corner.
So when Bill turned around to spear me, I didn't leave myself any room.
to get blown back and I ended up bouncing my head off the cave off the ring rope bottom ring rope
now that loosened me up pretty good too that was it it didn't hurt I just I didn't knock me out
but you know it's like that split second or two like he played football in high school you know
you get hit well enough you know you don't go down you're not unconscious but you shouldn't be driving
a car right then either that's all hey well
we were talking earlier about what to do with WrestleMania and our buddy Kevin Nash over
him on his fabulous podcast clicked this suggested hey you know who should be the third man
that the rock was seemingly referring to if he's one and John Cena's too what if the third
man was Randy Orton Kevin Nash likes that idea and listen as far as being long time
some WWE performers who have seen the fans
that'll go back and forth with them.
If that's the story they're trying to tell,
Randy Orton checks that box, doesn't he?
Sure, yeah.
And for all the reasons I talked about earlier,
I'd love to see that one too.
That'd be awesome.
Get the attitude.
He can sell it.
believable.
Good chemistry, too, I think.
You'd have some,
I'd like to see the chemistry between
a rock and Randy.
That'd be fun to watch.
good call keff
uh anthony manzano says looking back on it now do you wish wcw instead of focusing on
more established talent started developing more younger talent for the company to survive
is that a regret eric if you had it to do over again
would you have pushed the benwas and the jericho's and the guerrero's further up the
card sooner like in 96 and 97 and 98 like when we're making money handle
over fist yeah i would have taken all the top guys that got us there i would have taken all those
tough guys you know when i talk about tough guys i'm picking on sting and hogan and flare
yeah i'm piper and randy savage and lex luger yeah i'll take those guys say look you guys are
too old it's not working out anymore we got we gotta you guys gonna help get this younger
talent over and yeah i would have thrown christbin while right is the world championship
98 97 man that would have been the smartest thing ever wouldn't it i say
jokingly. Oh, so easy to fantasy book a rationale that you think would work or you think
would be fun to watch. But it's not real. It would have been good for it. And even though
they would have wanted it, I mean, Jericho really wanted it. Jericho wanted him bad. He wanted
was so bad he left and went to WWE to get it. But at that time with our roster from a business
perspective, it would not have made any sense. What did make sense is to bring guys in
and give them a national primetime platform to help get them over so that they would be ready
at some point. I don't know, like aforementioned Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean
Volenko, Chris Jericho, Ray Mysterio, any number of, I know Shane Helms, you know, we had a lot
of young talent that we were developing.
But the idea that the way to get one of those talents over that's really got talent
and you know is going to eventually be there someday is to thrust them into the limelight,
give them that opportunity to get over.
Sometimes the worst thing you can do.
If the timing isn't right, they're not quite ready, you're not doing anybody any favors.
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a member here for a whole year shout out to you adam and he says with lex finally going into the
hall of fame who's your mount rush for of nicest wrestlers any era and any promotion you got to
have lex and mark merrow on the list right so who is on your list gosh this like i can't think about
that for a long time there's a lot of people you've got to go through yeah i mean i think for sure
Lex after, you know, the interview that we just did with him and the amount of joy that that guy radiates just being in the room.
Yeah, definitely Lex.
You know, I haven't talked to Mark since he told me in airport.
He was leaving to go to WWE, so I've got to get a feel for Mark, and I'm sure that we will when we're on the phone.
On the far, based on everything that I'm reading and seeing, yeah, I'm sure he is.
But Nicus Battle of Nicus is such a tough term because it means different things.
things to different people. But I think of nice people, I think of people that I enjoy just
being around, like the vibe is good, energy, whatever you want to call it. You guys don't know
a lot of people don't know them that well, but Ernest Miller is one of the nicest people you'll
ever be around. He's just a, just a sweet guy. But there's a lot of them. I feel bad leaving people
off that list so I'll think about that and get back to you I'll circle back on
that uh T zags says Eric can you name a wrestler who isn't in the Hall of Fame
who deserves it is there a major is there someone overlooked in this time of year we
usually hear names like demolition or miss Elizabeth or Cindy Lauper I mean hell even
the dynamite kid Brian Pilman is there a wrestler out there that jumps off the
this to you. I mean, I could argue Jim Johnston. I know he's not technically a wrestler.
I think some people would argue China as a single. We know that Owen Hart, his family
doesn't want him to go in, but is there one that stands out above all else that you think
should be in?
I know I'm biased here, but I think Miss Elizabeth, I think the mega power story and Hulk
and Randy and her role in all of that.
She brought so much class to what was typically regarded as a classless sport, right,
form of entertainment.
She kind of cleaned the joint up a lot.
I doubt there's many wrestling fans that were alive today that were around and in their
fandom, peak fandom period, in their teens, so to speak, that were a part of all that,
that don't remember that very fondly, her role in it.
So I would say Ms.
Elizabeth.
You got to think Sid at some point, too.
I mean, my man,
main event in two WrestleMania.
How's he not in already?
Talk about that.
If you look at his resume,
it's kind of like,
what the hell?
Why not?
That's a no-brainer.
Alex wants to know,
from a worker's perspective,
what would you say is the difference in a WCW
style match versus a WWE style match was there a difference I think the
precision just the I'll call it tightness for lack of a better term right now off
top of my head in the end ring performances were better at WWE these were
CRISPR.
They tended to mean more because there was less of them.
Very generally.
Not the case all the time.
Don't even bother typing.
Don't even bother posting your comments.
Be very general here because it's a very big question.
The finishes were always better.
Just finishes were always better in WWE.
And therefore,
the story leading up to the,
the finish. So I think the crispness of the action in the ring, storytelling in the
match leading up to a much better finish generally than WCW in a broad way. That's how I would
describe the difference. I think there were some things in WCW that in some people's minds
made it better. I think there was more believability across the board, especially the early
WCW stuff. It was stiff. It was pretty stiff. So, you know, WCW had its, it's high points too.
But overall, the WWE high points kind of did the trick.
We're having a lot of fun giving you guys the keys to the show today. If you've got some
questions for Eric we want you to keep those questions coming and if you
haven't already hit the subscribe button turn on the notifications bell we've got an
old question that we didn't get to once upon a time this one comes to us from
demons row he says Brett was a plan B champion he never was a Hogan without the
NWO there would be no stone cold I feel like they speak on the NWO from a
YouTube perspective you had to be there respect O.G Eric
B. Needler wants to know, Eric, how did you manage to play the asshole character so well?
I remember hating you as a kid, but looking back, I realized it was good acting for me.
I just came by it naturally.
I've worked out of that character my whole life.
It was easy for me because, but the audience had an impression of me.
I didn't deserve the job.
This guy came, he wasn't even a wrestler.
who do he ever be doesn't even know how to lace up a pair boots and now he's running the
wrestling company i mean that was kind of the general consensus so kind of taking the way the
audience felt about me anyway and then giving him more reason to feel even more strongly it made
it pretty easy it wasn't like i was the greatest actor in the world i was just able to figure out
already pretty he had a they already wanted to dislike me i just had to help him
along made it fun you got another question here from um see if i have this one right
rami ramy and he says you once hit it at a cody road's angle they wish you could pitch
if you had five minutes to hear you out will you ever tell us what that was did you have an
idea for cody i guess you teased it on a show it said you needed not so much an idea
for a match or an angle, but for his character and his direction.
I know I'm not going to pitch it here.
Okay.
Got it.
Michael Appleton says,
Oh,
it's one of those.
Okay.
Michael Appleton says,
with lots of rumors flying around about potential other superstars to join
the Rock and Sena,
who would you put into the new faction?
So if it wasn't Randy Orton,
Is there another idea?
Is there another name that you like?
Carrying and Cross need something.
Wow.
Wow.
And he's,
my opinion,
and I don't,
I mean,
I know him,
we said hello together,
said hello to each other once or twice.
That's the extent of it.
But I just feel something,
My instinct tells me something about that guy.
But what I've seen of him feels a little bit.
Forced isn't quite the right word.
But his character, to me, feels like it's off about three degrees.
It just needs to be fine-tuned a little bit.
But he's a dangerous guy.
He's good in the ring.
there's something a little mysterious about him,
and that's projected intentionally.
But I think if they dialed that back just a little bit
and brought a little bit more authenticity to him,
unpolish him just a little bit,
I think it could be a really cool character.
There's a lot to work with there.
we've got a bunch of questions about john sanna this one comes to us from michael scoggins
with senna's last run being a heel do you think that they will bookend his run with a redemption
sort of ending i mean that's got to be the answer right there's no way he retires a heel right
i don't think so yeah and i and i and i i don't think so and be i don't think that's
It would be so easy.
It would be so easy to tell that story, and it would be such a good story to tell.
I mean, redemption, that's, we all as a culture now, not just as wrestling fans,
but we all love to see the rise, and we can't wait till they fall.
It's the journey, and it follows that pattern.
I mean, that's storytelling.
That's what a redemption story is.
falling from grace and finding redemption.
It's been the premise of so many stories
since the beginning of storytelling time.
So anytime you can figure out a way to apply that
to any story,
but particularly professional wrestling,
I think it's a cool thing.
So I hope they find it.
It is interesting to think about what's next.
Hey, we just saw a fun little,
comment here pop up check this one out stone cold stunder says what a lady fit for the third man
so if we're talking about the rock being number one perhaps john seno being number two he suggests
what if the third person is a female named becky lynch becky lynch coming back and everyone
assuming she's a baby face but then she heals on them boy that feels like an eric bischoff move
all day right there was exciting to think about i got i got we can see that
one, can't we? Yeah, and what a shocker. Yes. But I could also picture it on my head really easy.
So, yeah, that's, that's pretty cool. I don't know what you do with her, but have at it.
I'm sure you just limited by your own lack of imagination. Come up with something.
Travis Medway says when WCW Nitro ratings were falling
would a change of night been in any way advantageous
Smackdown has moved several times over the years
could the lack of nightly competition against Rob helped
was that ever considered Eric do you remember ever having any
conversation about what if we move Nitro to Tuesday or some other day
Nope.
I didn't.
Brad Siegel may have,
but he didn't have it with me or Harvey Schiller.
No.
Look, WCW was kicking
WWE's ass all the way up until
whatever it was it, end of 98,
first part of 99.
And by then, nobody was thinking anything
in Turner Broadcasting other than getting it
out of turn.
there was no let's find a way to save it it was they were already determining how to put a stake
through the heart of WCW so no it never came up a conversation Luis Martinez is with us here
live and he wants to know Eric do ratings even matter what streaming taking over now I don't know
Ask any cable outlet or any television network.
Ask anybody that works there for ratings manner.
Of course it matters.
Of course it matters.
Where do you think the money comes for these TV rights?
Do you think it comes from the highly profitable streaming platforms that carry them?
None of them are making any money.
It's all ad-driven.
Even the streaming platforms themselves are ad-driven more and more and more.
So, yeah, ratings will always matter.
Don't let anybody kid you.
Ratings will always matter.
Until they come up with another unit of measure that can be exchanged for cash,
ratings will always be.
Mr. Whisper had a question we didn't get to before,
but I think it warrants asking now.
With Mania around the corner,
what do you think was the feud of the year
Eric for me this past year it feels like the feud of the year
in my opinion we'll see him punk and Drew McIntyre
do you have one you liked better? No and I agree with that one
um
well that for now I mean it'd be interesting to see what they do with
with punk and Seth that one already feels kind of good to me
we'll see they're done with it they continue it i don't know i'm happy to become more more of a punk
fan i know we talked about that already but he's a different player in wwee that he was in ae
he looks different he carries himself different he's not saying stupid shit he's
it's like a different talent and we talked about that we when there was a rumor that he was
going to be leaving and would he possibly end up in wwe and you and i talked about it i thought
that he would do well there because he would be in a completely different environment and quite
frankly a more professional environment and certainly done all of that and more there's an interesting
question that we didn't get to once before that i know you're going to have a lot of thoughts on i want
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Hold on. Oh, we're good.
Now, seriously, have you thought about AI and wrestling?
What do you think about that?
Oh, yeah, I've done it.
I've used it.
When AI first became a thing, and, you know, a year ago, two years ago, whatever it was,
might have been longer than that two and a half years ago.
I said, who I want to try to figure this stuff out?
I got on chat GPT.
And it was like when you had to almost kind of wait in line, like early on, you'd register
and then eventually you'd get in and they'd teach you how to use it.
or guide you through it.
But yeah, I did it.
It was fascinated then.
I'm using it a lot now for other things, not for creative for wrestling,
but in the applications that I'm using it for now, it's unlimited.
It's absolutely unlimited what you can do with the guy.
I would be shocked if it's not being used already in some way, shape, or not.
Because you can really do a lot of work in a very short period of time.
was an amazing amount of precision and yes it even applies to creed so absolutely
jack d is with us here live and he says if you had successfully purchased wcdb in
2001 do you think you would have eventually tried turning sting heel
or not after the failed turn on legs if you got control of wcdb could you have seen yourself
turning sting heel eric you know maybe
You know, who knows what idea, you know, do I see myself listening to a good idea and going, yeah, let's do that good idea.
Yes, I absolutely do that.
Is there a possibility somebody could have come up with a good idea to turn Sting Hill regardless of whatever happens?
That's a possibility.
So I don't mean to be a smart ass about it, but it's hard to answer that question any other way saying it depends on the idea.
seems plausible that somebody could have come up with one
AOTV productions really love stirring it up and he wants to know
Eric what are the chances Tony Kahn will get so desperate he'll reach out to
Vince Rousseau for help with creative
Connor you know the answer to that better than I do but my impression is
less than zero what they say in animal house zero point zero
uh sad man Steve had a question
we didn't get to once upon a time and he wants to know Eric speaking of bully did
WCW ever have any thought of bringing over the Dudleys you know that's interesting we
saw the public enemy experiment if you will in WCW in an alternate universe could that
have been the Dudley boys what would that have looked like was there ever any serious
discussion not with me possibly with Kevin Sullivan maybe Terry Taylor but likely Kevin
Sullivan but it never got to me so I would suggest it never there were no serious
conversations happening or probably would have been run by me and I would have
been interested but it didn't happen that way we we got to do another one here
this is another question that we missed but I think it's a great one angry duckling
institution wants to know hi Eric I hope you're weak as well at any given time
did any of your WCW wrestlers ever received the type of heat
Sean received during the screw job?
No.
No.
No.
Nothing close.
All right.
Well, that'll do it.
Alex wants to know Conrad.
Why does WW recognize Flair as a 16-time champ when in reality it's more?
Why doesn't think it's talked about enough?
It's actually 20.
right? I think the actual number is
21, but who's
keeping count? When WWE started saying
16x, player
started signing 16x,
I'm not saying anybody's told me
this, but if I were a betting man
and Cody did drop the title to John
Sina and Sina became a 17x,
I wonder if moving forward
if we see Rick start signing
We're going to have some clarifications of the records here.
Your honor, your honor, may I approach
the bench please?
I have proof
that my client
has indeed achieved the level
of 21-time world heavyweight champion
so any suggestion
that sure our defendant
is acting in good faith
by representing he is
the leader in that category
is just false
in it going to be
evidentiary in nature
my client
represents that he is suffering
damages as a result
oh no come on now no come on we can have fun with this
can you imagine though if uh i mean as silly as this is
if they start putting an asterisk by john sina he has won the world title
the most out of anyone by w b except for reflair uh by the way we did a poll here
and i asked what do you guys think is going to happen at russomania
and 62% of the folks here with us tonight eric think that cody should get beat
WrestleMania. They want to see
a heel John Sina leave
with the title. A heel
John Sina does present some interesting
opportunities. If they go to Chicago
and they get to run back
Punk and Sina, but this time Sina
comes in as the legitimate heel
and punk is not just the hometown favorite, but he's the baby
face. That could be interesting.
And it would be interesting to see if they do another
Sina Rock. I don't think they do a singles
match, but I could see
them doing a tag match. We'll see. Luis Martinez says, Eric, did you have a harder time
performing as a heel in the Northeast? Being from the Bronx, people loved heels like Savage and
hated Hogan. Listen, I think that's always been the case. Whether you're in New York, New Jersey,
certainly Baltimore, but my favorite, Philadelphia, my goodness, they love their heels.
I mean, even the Midnight Express were getting cheered back in the day. Did you find it harder to be a
heel in front of those Northeast smart fans?
Not at all.
They hated me there.
Maybe it's because I was an outsider.
You know, WCW was the southern wrestling club, you know, kind of thing.
I never had any problem getting him.
Maybe it was me, but no.
I felt the opposite.
I love going there.
I mean, we talked about the East, of course, the ECW when I said,
I think that was a special thing.
because I had so much heat on me in ECW, even though I didn't work there.
But then you're, I don't know, I never, that's what I have one of the reasons I really
love performing in those Eastern markets is because they just, the heat was so good there.
I loved it.
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Hey, this was fun today, Eric.
We got to bounce around, have some different conversations, talk a little bit about this,
a little bit about that.
Right now, WWE is enjoying an incredible European tour.
So Raw and Smackdown are kind of in the middle of the afternoon.
A lot of my guy friends, man, this is like their Christmas, you know, with March
madness going on right now with just one basketball game after another.
Of course, we know the NBA playoffs are going to start hitting up baseball seasons,
getting ready to kick off.
There's a lot of momentum and hype just in the sports world.
And it won't be too long from now, Eric.
WV.E is going to break every record imaginable with WrestleMania.
when you think about the scope of WrestleMania, thinking about some of the prices we were throwing out earlier
for things like a $25,000 eat and greet with John Cena, I mean, would you have ever imagined at any point in history
that professional wrestling will be able to, you know, command numbers like that?
This feels like this is going to shatter every record by a mile.
No, I would have never even allowed myself to fantasize.
about this because I would have felt like I was wasting valuable energy that could be
applied to something more productive and how wrong I would have been it's amazing
nothing short of amazing it really is we're going to be talking about all that
and more as we get done this long and twisty road on our way to WrestleMania
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