83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff - Episode 367: The Total Experience

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

"EZE" Eric Bischoff with the "Total Package" Lex Luger and Diamond Dallas Page sit down to discuss their legendary careers, life lessons, and how the power of hope has changed their lives. All that plus, the trio answers questions from our LIVE audience on this special edition of 83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff. TRUE CLASSIC - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/83WEEKS  ! #trueclassicpod BILT - Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to joinbilt.com/83WEEKS  PRIZE PICKS - Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/83WEEKS  and use code 83WEEKS and get $50 instantly when you play $5! VIIA - Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/83WEEKS  and use code 83WEEKS! TECOVAS - Get 10% off at tecovas.com/83WEEKS when you sign up for email and texts. MANDO - Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code 83WEEKS at https://shopmando.com  #mandopod TUSHY - Over 2 Million Butts Love TUSHY. Get 10% off Tushy with code 83WEEKS at hellotushy.com/83WEEKS  #tushypod MAGIC SPOON - Get $5 off your next order at MagicSpoon.com/83WEEKS Magic Spoon—hold on to the dream!  SAVE WITH ERIC - Stop throwing your money on rent! Get into a house with NO MONEY DOWN and roughly the same monthly payment at https://nationsgo.com/conrad/ ADVERTISE WITH ERIC - If your business targets 25-54 year old men, there's no better place to advertise than right here with us on 83 WEEKS You've heard us do ads for some of the same companies for years...why? Because it works! And with our super targeted audience, there's very little waste. Go to https://www.podcastheat.com/advertise now and find out more about advertising with 83 Weeks. On AdFreeShows.com, you get early, ad-free access to more than a dozen of your favorite wrestling podcasts, starting at just $9! And now, you can enjoy the first week...completely FREE! Sign up for a free trial - and get a taste of what Ad Free Shows is all about. Start your free trial today at https://adfreeshows.supercast.com/   

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So we're going to talk a little professional wrestling, but we're also going to talk about life and how wrestling is the gift that keeps on giving. You know, Lori and I talk about that all the time. It's, you know, I don't know how many times I thought my career in wrestling was over and it was in my rear room here. I didn't have anything to do with it. And somehow or another, you end up back involved, even peripherally. and it is the gift that keeps on giving.

There are certain opportunities that come your way in life that probably wouldn't have come your way had you not met the people you met, had the exposure that you had. But you guys have taken the gift that keeps on giving to an entirely different level and just proud of them both of me. We're going to talk a little bit about all of that.

But Paige, I got to say first, man, it's the first time I've been here. I mean, I've known you for, I don't know how long now, 40 years. And I knew of what you're doing and followed it, was impressed by it. So a lot of the videos, I changed people's lives and improve their lives. But it doesn't quite have the same impact if you're not seeing it live. And I had a, but blessed with the opportunity to watch you working with Lexus. I'm going to try not to cry.

Because it is pretty cool. Thank you, Bob. It's a lot. It's cool. And Lex, we'll get into history and all that. We've told those stories before, so there's no reason to tell them again, necessarily. But to be here and see you in person going through your workout, and more importantly, feeling the joy. Because I've watched you in your interviews.

I've done interviews with you with live interviews. And I've been saying this for years. This isn't a new thing for me. It's one of the reasons I've become so respectful of you and influenced by you in many ways is how much your life has changed. And you used to walk into a room and it was like, oh, here comes Lex. No doubt. I got to do a promo with Lex today.

Not that it was that uncomfortable, but there was a difference between, okay, it's time to do something with Lex. Because of your vibe. I didn't like being relaxed back then. I kind of liked them. I kind of liked them, but he could yell at a high tolerance for me. I know I'm a lot. So were you. Today I'm still a lot, but it's different.

It's much different. That's the magic between you guys is how you've come together and how it's your life has improved dramatically. I mean, you've said it to me on the way over here. you've never been this happy as being as an adult especially and your life has changed so much but before we get into the nitty-gritty of it all what's the most recent lex luger update i'm married yeah i love it i'm just like totally you guys threw cody i mean for the hall of fame thing but i've i've been like just atomic bombing all my friends didn't know i was like 17 years didn't date. No women in my life at all. And I met this girl last year, Robin, and we started hanging out a little bit, you know, sparks started flying and a little bit. So we were going to allow, but we ended up, Pastor Steve, you've heard about him, water, he was in my hotel room and we got down to pray and I got safe, April 23rd and 06, and he ordained me like

about nine years later, and now he married us Friday night on the back patio of our house. Just a few people there. And we didn't want to do the big wedding thing, but it was really special. And have Pastor Steve there for my salvation, my ordination, and my marriage, like the trifect. I mean, he's like my own brother. And you talked about Dallas and I. Stings his best friend, things his best friend. And not to we rank friends, but, I mean, Dallas has become such.

the things he does and we've done together and I was the first guest at his house and we're our friendship we always got along you want if you guys had tolerate me back in the day

and travel with me until you froze me out yeah but I was going to interject here what did me I froze you out I would have to bring a Parker in gloves oh the temperature to ride with him in the bar

after a while I was like well I can't do it anymore I was a warm nature buffalo and follow that muscle mass I had better I eat cold now I know you do. There's a new sensation for you. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Now I know how I froze everybody out. I go, Ben's Colpian. What's wrong with you, Lex? We used to bring jackets to my condo. Dude, I know. I don't know. So was that because you were just comfortable in there?

Or were you wanting to bring more body fat? I'll buy a phrase, Marne Anderson. My comfort comes first and foremost. That was my motto back then. But that was part of it. But my body temperature was so hot. hot, that muscle mask. I ran hot. I was warm matron. So I was always sweating. So like I went out to heat and humidity in the summer here in Atlanta. Oh my gosh. I had to bring like three shirts

long living and change that. Yeah, I was very warm major. I kept my my condo like a refrigerator. It was unreal. And the car. Yeah. And the car. We were talking last night a little bit about, you know, what we remember, you know, he and I, when we were coming up, he lived across the street from me and all that. And it's like one of the things that stands up most of my mind. All the big things that we've all done, right? You beating Oven, you winning the world title. Those are our big seminal kind of professional wrestling moments.

But when I decide to look back, and I don't do that often, I purposely don't look, and I don't look in my rear of mirror much. Windshield guy. I'm the windshield guy. I'm not a rear rear rear guy. That's why the rear rear rear rear mirror is so small. We're not supposed to be looking at that all the time. And then the windshield is a bunch bigger.

I love it. Keep her eye on the horizon. Keep all moving forward. But when I do allow myself to go back and reflect on, you know, the things that's end out of my mind, we were talking last night laughing her butts up. It's, you know, the road trips I used to take with him. Now, you liked it cold and you used to have to wear a park in the car. I picked Paige up in his house.

We're going to drive to wherever Birmingham, Alabama, or Dothan or something that was drivable. And he comes out of him. his house and he's got like four Tupperware things, containers, filled with all kinds of concoctions. It was all healthy stuff. Yeah, concoctions I call it. Boles of rice and tuna fish. Yeah. Which is cool, right?

Except for we're driving down the road in summertime. He's in the car. He's eating. The jumbo gin bag with everything, he's digging for everything. And when he, it's, he's half of a Tupperware full of rice, whatever it is, and it's like, throw it out the window. Which is great, unless you're going 80 miles an hour. And it's stuff not blowing back at you. Or the car behind you. Yeah, or the car behind you. But those are the moments that I remember.

How did you guys end up neighbors? Was that planned? He just lived on the same street. We talked about that last night. How did that end up? You tell it. You've got a better memory that I do. What happened is when we started working together,

we were fourth string color commentators and play by play guys. We were at the bottom of the bottom. You know, the shows that run. Yeah, I freaked out like that. There was in Charlie. very perception chopped question and he was an announcer right and i was like at the bottom of the list of okay like wow yeah it's uh we we talked about all day yesterday but you know it's it's it's one of those things that where we started you know became friends out of that working together

and we met with a pull-aparte fight that's how we so we like a real fun like a real pull-aport yeah the real fight and that's how we met and then later on each other or with each other, in the AWA. Oh, come on. And what ended up happening is we both end up working together and helping each other. And then

at some point, he, did you buy the past first house or I? You bought the first. Dusty's wife, who's Cody's mom, Michelle. Right. She sold me this house in Mapleton. Right. And then she also sold in a house

on the other side. out of the street, a house of Lent. And you bought, what are the ads of that? And I mean, you bought, I don't know what the timing is exactly, but I think you'd been in your house for six months or a year before we bought. So it was just pure coincidence. Right. That's God's one.

Right across the street from each other. How did you take to that outrageous Christmas decree? It was awesome because I don't like doing that stuff. But my son Garrett, my daughter, Montana, absolutely love it. Oh, my gosh. Where's my head guy? You had like a, what's that place in Tennessee? Gatlinburg.

Yeah, like Gatlinburg yard. You could see his house. I don't know if the space shuttle was around that. But if it was, you could see it from the space shuttle. I would see his house. The king of the tacky, the king of the tacky Christmas decorations, of course, Kimberly, inside had an immacula.

If you go to his house, Some of it's up year round. Oh, yeah. Did he saw it? No, I spent the night there on this house. I bought this house. There's a big Christmas display. It's a grinch.

I knew he was moving to the beach. So I walked my first brother. I knew he was getting ready and go to, oh, you moved your Christmas. I was thinking, put this Christmas stuff up there and moving stuff out, moving it down to storage or down to Florida. Rulanda here. And I go, oh, you get your Christmas up. Oh, that's always up. Oh, okay.

Wow. So. I took a page out of the McPolley book. That's what I think. He has a room that's all Christmas. And to tell you to God, who's true about Christmas you were making? Well, Chris, he takes it the next step of actually being Santa Claus.

Yeah, yeah. And dying out to bear. Like, Mick takes the depth level. But as far as decorations, I got it. You know, so that's the big competition with us. But it's really funny because, you know, that area that you're going up the staircase, that Grinch tree is up on, you know, platform is way up in the air. And everything is there.

I've said, Paige, and Paige is the coolest, is my person. Just so you know, in case you're unaware, pages, we refer to Dallas Page as Paige. We don't call them Dallas. Generally, right? Yeah, I do it, and his wife's name is Paige. So I'm going to tell you a funny story. Wait, but do you know what her maiden name is? No.

McMahon. That's what I do know. Oh, come on. You didn't know that? No. Oh, my God. First time I told Jericho that he spit the water out. That's insane.

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a girl a girl that's great I met her beautiful inside his wife is unbelievable but you guys are meant to be together man no 100% right the page page thing for someone well this morning I come down early right I'm drinking a cup of coffee it takes me a while to wake up you know I kind of go through my process and try to keep it the same every morning so I'm sitting down it's quiet still dark out kind of and I'm drinking my coffee and and I need my glasses on which you know I need my glasses and and I see her so I see your Hage's wife's sister who just came in she just came in at midnight I didn't even know she was there I was asleep at 8 o'clock because you put me through this gone of work out

absolutely kicked my ass in a very fun way I was how long did keep the nicer and we talk about that do we need to talk to a minute and four seconds he got in strong oh really he wouldn't look at trash talk no he wouldn't he wouldn't look at me to have a conversation because that would have he would have lasted three to five minutes

but he didn't he was going to do it his way I was just so you know my way was focusing on my breathing it's just so it's like don't talk to me I'm trying to survive how much more tested in a cold shower and you kind of lose your breath it's different Like, walking into the cold shower for me was harder than slipping into the plunge, just that initial shot. Right, right.

But after about 40, 45 seconds, because you can't move, you know, like, oh, I'm in a shower. I can move around a little bit or drive around and give the side of break and, you know, hit the front. You can't do that. So you're in it. And I'm going to do it again tonight when we. He was 44 degrees. So that's not, that's not chicken. What's the normal time?

What do you do that? Well, I try to keep it from page and she'll go in it. But I would do 39 and 39. That's cold. That's really cold. I was excited because I do the ice cold shower in the morning. I do it pour an adorphid rush. It just, it takes you, I told Lori the other nine,

and I said, man, if I could figure out a way to get this feeling, mentally and physically in a pill, I'd be like the Pablo Escobar of health. You know, but your body does it naturally for you if you allow it to. You'd be out box, you're selling it, yeah, spirally. Yeah, but it gets to kill for them. I love the, I love the endorphin rush. It obviously your metabolism kicks up a couple of notches for a while.

It helps you stay lean because if you get, if you come up to your neck, that's a hit seat, carotid artery. Point it does burn fat. Point take it. People used to ask me my excuse back in day, why do you keep the place so cold? I said, because I always want to stay lean. I go, people will realize your body maintaining its temperature, when it's cold, burns more calories.

And if you're out sweating, out in the heat, people think it's the opposite, but it actually is true. It makes a lot of sense. I even after I did the first cold, ice cold shower, and I've got up to about two minutes on that, and I was digging the endorphin rush so much. I went outside in Iran sprints in my shorts, no shirt, 24 degrees, 20. degrees how long were your sprints i would do like a tabata type of workout so i sprint hard for 20 seconds and i'd walk for 10 seconds 15 seconds sprint again for 20 so your knees are that good

yeah but i can't i got to be careful i can't do it too much too often like if i do it twice a week that's that's good if i start pushing it i'll be knocking on the door because i'm bone on Yeah, that's why I have. There's a ball, all there. But on sprints, you kind of sprint on the balls of your feet more than let your hit, your heel hit. So you can manage it if you're careful and aware of it. But yeah, I love the cold. The cold plunge was awesome.

And then the, yeah. I got you off track. You're in the kitchen and you saw it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Because I go off in different directions. No, I got to appreciate it. I asked you the cold thing.

I got you up. But no, I'm sitting down at the kitchen table, you know, half asleep, blind is a bag. and I see the silhouette of this woman coming down and she told me her name but you know in one ear and out the other because I wasn't awake yet and we're sitting there talking on all that she goes yeah I'm Paige's sister I'm thinking why have I not met you before because I'm thinking Paige's sister I'm talking to her for like 35 or 40 minutes learning all about her life husband's a pilot she used to be a pilot or 15 year old daughter here for a volleyball we're talking like you know and then finally it dawned on me and she goes

oh no page is my sister not my brother oh that makes sense page page page not page yeah so i'm oh my god i'm starting to call page dallas so that i don't confuse myself and that's what i tell people like don't even bother just go right to dallas because If I thought, we're both going to be going to what? And I still do it when some of my family and my mom, before she passed, she had given her Girl page. Girl page and boy page. That's how to you. She goes, I'm not calling me Dallas.

I didn't name you down. I was like, hey, whatever. You can call me whatever I want. But my sister knows we're out in public. She calls me doubts because the bottom line is, is that it's confusing. And more than anything, each of us are. brand today. You know, on top of being in a person, you know, we have, we have things that we work on and they know you as Eric Bischoff. If your real name was Bill Bischar, they would not know

who that is. And the biggest reason I changed my name illegally over 25 years ago, cops, and I don't know about you, but for me, every cop who ever pulled me over when they realized it was diamond down the page because of way I looked, DDP, hey man. So I'm telling Rich Minser, remember Rich Venture? Oh, yeah. Goal's Jim. Goal Club. Oh, big difference.

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This has got over a decade ago. Oh, God, it's like 15 years ago. And wow, how that time go out past. We're going to this club. And I'm telling him the story of why I changed my name because the last cop who had pulled me over wanted license registration. I was using a car that this car company, gave me to use because I did commercials for him, whatever. And the guy says, license registration.

I said, I don't have the registration, but here's my license. I said, they let me use this car because I do commercials for him. He goes, oh, GDP, you cut your hair. And I was like, I've got to change my name. So I'm telling him that story. I go through the deal. I get a change. And I'm telling Rick, right as you know me when it comes to driving, there's pack. It's, it's Hollywood. boulevard to everybody's on and there's it's so crowded i'm not gonna me i miss a turn i'm not gonna go all the way down and get around and come around so i just made a you turn whoo coc pulls me over right this one i'm just taking i'm not even going to try to talk my sad self out of this one i'm just going to take the ticket so i hand the guy my license

he's looking at and he goes alice page He said, how do I know that name? I looked at my way. DDP, gave me right back my license, and I didn't get to take it. And I was like, yes, I did that. What do you do and get pulled over so often? Well, you know, if we're getting pulled over because speeding. Yeah, I believe that.

Yeah. Especially back in the day. I've only been pulled over once in the last 10 years. But you would actually like my driving better now. It was a frightening experience. Because there's always like, he's not driving the car. There's four or five things going on while he's driving. He remembers.

He remembers. He remembers. Yeah, video cameras, watch you step up on the dashboard. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Hey, I want to get, I mean, getting married Friday night is kind of a big damn deal. How did you meet Robert? How did you meet you what?

I met her 36 years ago in Chicago. I was married and I kind of hit on her. And she said, I don't mess around a married man. So I thought she was a cutie pie. Our pass across various times through the years, arbitrarily, she worked for a staff. She was a reporter, newsgirl, and chat, and her, I didn't read your stuff. I'd love in. And I bumped in her lifetime, in Atlanta one time.

I was married, got divorced. She was married for a while. And then we were both about, it's crazy how we got back together. I went to Buffalo to look after my mom for seven years. Right. I changed my phone number. And she thought, we used to text a day once in a while, say, hey. But that was it.

And she tried to get a hold of me and my old number. I didn't blast out my new number. I was going through my contact list this past summer. I was cleaning it up. And a lot of times we go do stuff a weekend. Someone's picking us up, right? I'll put their name in. Robin would be a guy or girl's last, first name.

So I'm looking like on this. I'm going to ours. And I see, this Robin. I thought that must be somebody who drove me around. I went, I was this far from my little finger of the leading millimeter. And I tell you, at the hand of God, I stopped. I go, could that be robbing from Chicago? Because I figured I would have Chicago next to him.

Could you rob him from Chicago? So I don't ever dial numbers of somebody I'm not sure who it is. And also, it turns out, Robin never answers calls. She doesn't know the number. So I was dialing with a New York number. She was expecting she worked at Morgan Stanley and was expecting a call from New York. So when she saw New York, she answered, when she normally would never, I called the number.

My female voice, she was outside. I couldn't recognize what I said, Robin. I hear her husband. Yeah. I go, Robin from Chicago, she's like, yeah. Wow. I go to this is a lot. She goes, oh, my gosh, I'm trying to have a text to you.

I just gave up. I figured, I don't know you're ghosting me or what happened. So we end up having lunch and start seeing each other and hanging out. and since last year and we got married by the night and that back patio. I remember a few months ago you said you go,

hey, start dating again. I go, really? You go, yeah, really like her. My friends were shocked in that alone. I had 17 years. I was doing like the Apostle Paul and stay single

and focused on what I do. But yeah, and I was looking after my mom so I wasn't looking to go out on dates with women and stuff. So yeah, it wasn't a real reason why I did. And I always just said, a lot guys,

I just felt as far as marriage I felt that I trusted God. There's a woman for me out there. She had to be special. I've got I'm in a wheelchair and mobility issues and stuff. Turns out she has a son who's an adult now who she's managed all these years and held a job as a single mom and he's got a severe form of epilepsy. Wow. So she's had to learn to navigate with him. So she she has that, I mean, she's like second nature with me helping me get around. It's like unbelievable that God prepared her wow to her son to be with somebody like me and not look at me differently right make the long story short so you hit it off and this my my issues i have mobility wise i'm healthy but i have mobility

wasn't wasn't i couldn't face her at all because of her son so we it was it was crazy yeah all that's such a great story yeah so what was that i mean about getting too personal yeah if you haven't been in a relationship in 17 years you'd kind of put that off to the side yes that's the way to say it a lot of friendships and i look at my mom but no no a woman sure but but what were you nervous about that very nervous the first she said the first time we went out i was like a statue as she she touched my arm and i was she said i was she said i was her friends well how was it how was your first thing she was he was like statue i couldn't tell what he liked me you're not that was i was i was nervous i was i've been around a woman in that kind of setting in 17 years

was wild. But then six of them. There was sparks flying. And as a believer, we don't bed down or move in with your woman before you get married. But man, there were some sparks flying. So I

kind of said, well, what are your thoughts on marriage? She was, well, you know, I never thought I would get married. She's the same as me. I never thought I'd get married again. This is my son. I looked after him. He's an adult now, but he has, he needs to be monitored 24 hours a day. So I just never thought I'd get married. what man would want to be fired into that and, you know, all that stuff.

I'm like, okay. But, you know, I never thought. You think she knew what you were going? We were just saying, yeah. So finally got the point where I said, well, you know, if we're, we thought about getting married, what's the next step? She said, like, you want to pick a date or something to get married? What do we do? Because it's been like almost 40 years for me, right?

Over 40 years, I didn't know what the marriage says. I'm like, well, I go, so what are, what do I? I, uh, what do you want me to do? Like, I'm looking for guides. I'm like, do we set a date? What do we do? She goes, I go, or do I, like, get a rain and get down on the knee? She goes, that might be nice.

I'm thinking, I'm in a wheelchair. So we went out to the table. I don't want to go too long. I bet it's a lot of time. No, I want to hear about those. This is awesome. So we had a really nice restaurant. Fireplace for, I got a corner table.

I'm in a wheelchair. She's sitting where he's at. And I started pushing the table out. I went and got a ring. So I'm pushing the table at you. what are you doing? Why are you pushing the table out? What are you doing? And I push the table up and I kind of turn to jail and I put my wheelchair fishing down the floor. There's a crowd of restaurant on a Friday night. It's packed.

Everybody's like, what's that guy doing? What's that guy in a wheelchair doing? And I got down to me, I asked her to marry me on my wheelchair fishing. It was very, very, quite the moment. And the whole restaurant was we went back there. right after our in the same spot for a little small get together as our family right after wedding and front at the same spot at the same restaurant yeah that is such an awesome story very cool and does your son live with you yeah he's he's yeah he's 24-hour kid she's got amazing what she's done with him she she's at working and as the as the round the clock

people that come and look after him when she's not theirs amazing yeah and He's very functional, but he can have a really, if he has like a rare form of it, if he has a really bad one, you feel like taking the like the verge of like this potential. Right. So he needs to be watched. Another example, how wrestling is the gift that keeps ungiving. Here's somebody that you met however many years ago because of wrestling. Yeah.

Because of wrestling. Basically. And now, here you are telling us about your wedding Friday night. Who would have thought? But I told you guys off camera, I was just bombing my friends. I didn't know one near I got married. I'm calling them all. I'm speaking from my brother.

Hey, you're on speaker with my wife, Robben. They're all like, hey, like you say your wife, Robbins. I've got, I told the guys, I've got 87 variations of the word wow. Wow. Wow. I mean, I've heard every wow, every girl's was Nikitas. Nikitas was the past. You could watch like two minutes.

Wow. you say something you go anything about Thursday you know wow he's like oh it's unbelievable he was great yeah it's been fun and you obviously

you seem happier over the top man well 17 years you know I you know I have a guy so it's been quite the week there was a lot to unleash not getting in any detail woo

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and every way but i think the cool i mean that's a big part of life yeah and well god form us to have a you know a wife and and and holy matrimony and common interest and and and you know, hopefully be spiritually yo, you know, she's a believer. And then there should be the physical traction, you know, for sure. It's called the three-legged stool. It's a healthy part of life. But I think the thing that I was excited about in addition to that was, now you've got a partner. Yeah.

And, you know, and it's everything. One of those things you don't want to know what's missing to it. It's like, wow. Yeah. It's really cool when you have it. So I've got a great one, Gloria. You're my gosh. amazing. What a, what a trick to do you guys. She's a, she's a wonderful woman. She's a very positive

person. But what she saw in me beyond, you know, a good time, I have no idea if it was what it was. But to see that transition and to see you guys coming together, and like I said, when we started this, I had a chance to watch the workout that you're putting luck through. And man, it's like we were all put here to help each other, but you guys are taking it through an entirely different level. Of all the stuff that you've done, page, in terms of helping other people, take the wrestling part aside. We'll talk about wrestling.

Well, eventually we're going to get to wrestling. But not to rank success stories, but what amaze you? What's an outcome that's really surprised even you? Jake. There's five things I'm incredibly. proud of which is my wife my dad my girls um of course world title hall of fame ring this community that we've created with ddp yoga started with my buddy chris gabriano put people together to try to help inspire each other and keep making each other accountable and

there's 78 000 people on it that's on that list and you have 78 000 people on that and helping each other like you never at ddp yoga what just like this one word Facebook you have to become a member you become a member then you get to read these because people are putting like I have people take six pictures and I'm saying you should really take them so you can see your body because you're going to want those as you know down the line and long story short people they put up pictures that you would never see anywhere but they it's a trusted community of helping each other reach out and commenting and help encourage each other and help encourage each other and the resurrection of Jake's name.

Like that Jake ever went through. I remember going to see Triple H. I first started bringing Jake into my house. And Scott by this time was in there as well. And I told him that. St. Dallas. Scott wasn't in yet. The first time I would see him, I just moved him in.

And I was doing the very best of Metro. And we were trying to get lunch together, He couldn't, but he said, I mean, I want to talk. So I said, listen, I'm not saying I'm going to be able to get Jake Bobb's sober. But I am saying he's really doing good. It's been 30 days. He's sober. He has ups and downs.

But bottom line is, I just wanted you to know, you know, and I'm going to keep you impressed of it. The exact same thing when it came to when me Lex started working. I wanted him to know that here's where Lex is at and here's our goals. and here's their dreams and I'm not saying you guys are going to put them into Hall of Fame this year

but hey next year next year at some point we all know you know and the same thing he's the master of the drip we're just making people aware spokesperson for his company just grips up

but if you don't make people aware if you don't make people aware then they don't know right so with Jake you know for good you know Paul was like good luck with Jake

And then Scott came in too, right? So now they're both working towards this goal of getting sober and having a real life. And they were helping each other. And I ran in the fall at a radio station that had like 20 radio stations. Just happened to be there because I was in town doing something. And I was doing the radio show. And he was doing another one. And he pulled me aside and he said, I'm not saying this is going to happen.

But, you know, we've got this thing. People have got to be sober for a year before we even consider that if that was an issue. And he said, we both know those guys should be in. But, you know, that day is not today or this year or whenever. But the bottom line is he watched and he saw. And I wanted him to know little spots where Lex was working really hard. Do we have him walking yet? No.

Was he close? No. No. You know, we don't know. We don't know. But the work that's been done and his strength and being able to... When Cody... Life's teaching.

Jump right at the chair. And there's a point in time when I said, can you jump out? Can you pop out of this? You're with no answer. He's like, couldn't do it. So we've got the footage of the struggles. I was like in cement.

My butt was like in cement. Yeah, couldn't get out of it. I go, it's okay. That's now. If we keep going with all these... Exercise every day quality of life things. So when you have to brush your teeth instead of being a chair turns, toothpaste every month.

Every little thing you go through the day taking a shower that just to be able to stand, I'll get upright easily and stuff makes you difference quality. So this, when you talk about the time that need to be put in, I owe Jake to me and I wanted to pay back and I wanted them to be able to walk away from this business, him and Scott both, where they should be. And it's a whole thing, you know, and the bottom line is Jake was a daily thing in the beginning. Today, I don't, this Jake, I know today, we just called off and, you know, so for almost 14 years now. And like, he's always grinning.

Yeah, he's a different. He's a different. He's got a non-stop grin now. And real. This was as challenging, but not. Because when Lex does stuff with you, he's going to put the way. work in. He wants to get up and out of that chair. He

wants to have mobility back. And he doesn't drink. He doesn't do drugs. He's a great thing. Right. He's a different cat. That wasn't one of the hurdles. Yeah. Yeah. So it was, it was it wasn't easier because it's a whole different avenue. Yeah. Spinal

injury. Did you know that when it happened to him that I was there? Did I tell you that? I vaguely remember that because I was there as well. I wasn't there there. Right. I was in San Francisco. You guys know where I'm at faith, but that's the hand of God. He was there in San Francisco the moment I got paralyzed. He got into the room with the 911 guys. I saw Dallas over there.

I didn't want to go to the hospital. I thought it was dehydrated. I was paralyzed from that down, but I thought, the guys picked me up off the floor, told me to bash the door down and couldn't answer the door because they didn't come downstairs from my parents. 911 came, bashed my door down, pick me up off the floor. I'd fall under the floor trying to get the phone with my head. I rolled off the bed.

and fell up against the nightstand. So you had no use of your legs. Nothing. I was like a magnet pulled me through the floor. Who knows what they were paralyzed? I thought I was at those old metal diver seats. And a magnet was pulling through my pad. I tried to, I could move with my head and shoulders.

I was paralyzed here now. And I tried to get through a phone. I don't know what I was going to do. That was my big, big schnaz or what. But I fell to the floor up against the nightstand. I couldn't breathe. And man, it was, I mean, they finally make a long story I crashed the door down.

I couldn't answer the door. They knew I was in there. And there he was double locked. And there he was. I'm going to tell you, Howard. How about, I feel like God connecting us. No doubt. Come back full circle now.

He's like my, he's like my brother, like him and Sting. I mean, unbelievable. First guest at his beach house. Oh, my gosh. He has like a Lex suite. Yes, we do. You got to call with me. You got to shout, pro, pro.

What do you do shower with grandpa? Where do you put these grab bars? I'm like, leave me alone. He's like, dow me up. It's because what he cares about people, right? That's what you do, man. It was page you designed the room for him, so everything was wheelchair accessible.

I didn't tell him I got emotional around there and he showed me my room. It was. How is you? Oh, my gosh. I like getting choked up. It was super sweet. I broke a bottle of a new cologne.

Was it still smell like my clone? It was these marble tops. I dropped my balcony and smashed the room smells like, like, like, uh, like, uh, like Sevage, wherever it is. Like, look. So how this thing happened is I'm living in LA at the time and I'm hanging out that day with our thoughts. And he starts telling me how much Lex has changed and he's found Christ and I'm like, no way. He's like, no, really, I'm telling you. He's a different person.

I know how much time has passed since. San Francisco and the conversation with Eric Watts? The conversation with Eric Watts was over 17 years ago. Because 17 years ago, you'd get paralyzed. So it's literally like three or four months. Okay, that's what I should do. And I'm booked on San Francisco. And I wasn't sure if I wanted to go because there was so many guys.

And when he told me that Lex was going to San Francisco, let me back up, when I said, he says how beautiful a person he is, and how, just how much is changed. So Eric's talking about Lex, shit. Eric wanted to just want to beat me up. Eric Watts hated, hated Lex with a vengeance. Like, there was two different times. He was, I heard you hated me.

So I do hear stuff. Hates a strong word. I didn't say it with Eric. I can say it with Eric because he'll be the first to say it. Eric Watts. Eric Watts. Yes. Oh, Eric, I heard.

We got Paige. Page. Page. Very confusing. He wants to be here. You know what? So he's telling me, and he's talking with such, like, brotherly love. And I go, you hate Lex, though.

And he goes, well, he goes, I'm telling you because I'm living with him now. I go, what? You're living with Lex Fluger? Yeah, he was in for a while. Yeah, he goes, he goes, I go, I've got to see this. So I've called the promoter. I agree to do it. You got to pay me before I come down.

So, pay, I'll be in my room. You pay me. Dusty taught me that. I get paid. He leaves. And I said, let me know when Lex gets here. So I'm up there. I'm doing stuff. All of a sudden, he calls him back. He goes, D.B., Lex, I think he had a heart attack. This is Eric that calls it. Eric Watts. No, now it's the promoter. Okay. I'm in San Francisco. I just got paid. You know, maybe an hour or so goes by. Let me know when Lex gets here. I want to go see him. Just go hang with him and see him. the promoter close up, he goes, D.B., I just heard Lex had a heart attack. They had to break

down his door. I go, they had to break down his door. In this hotel, he's like, yes. I go, what room is he in? Heart attack? No one who realized I got my spinal cord. I don't know to his room, you know, it swelled up, yeah. And I ran down to his room and ran through the door, and he's sitting there like this in the chair.

I mean, up, yeah, but I'm scared out. So, you know, you know, man, I come over. Hey, Lex, he was dying, how you doing? Give him a hug. I go, and I didn't notice he didn't move. It wasn't even in my brain, you know? You were just happy to see he was still a lot. Well, yeah, I was happy to see that he was good and that, you know, I still want to talk to him, you know, but right now the EMT is like, Lex, you have to go to the hospital.

And he's like, no, no hospital, no hospital. And I was like, Lex, you've got to go. You know, because all the guys have some kind of thing happen to him. And sometimes that's going to be a really positive thing because they caught it. Now they can blow out. I'm thinking it's his heart. He gave me the jersey boy. He's being softened.

Bro, bro, you got an effort going. Go with you guys. So he's like, and it was a guy and a girl. I've been stubborn. Yeah, so he said, well, you know, my hips, I can't walk on them anyway. He said, I got the fused hips. He goes, he goes, so I really can't get up there. I said, well, I'll help you.

And me and the EMT put him in the table. I'm thinking, he's fine. It's his heart. And they took off and then. You know, end up coming, I can't, when I live in LA, I came back to Portland all time. Now I hear he's paralyzed, can't only move his pinky, and then he's going to be, go to Shepard. Tell him about the ride, though.

When you went on the ride, who is when you got to the hospital, you guys, the MT people. Yeah, they were both wrestling fans. The MTV's the girl, front of the guy. He's hovering over me. I told you guys this. And the guy's over me. He's like, where do we take them? They're naming a bunch of hospitals around the zone.

Sample Square Port and Rock, sort of like this, like, it's not taking them there. They go, what about Stanford, which is a world-class facility? It's like 45 minutes away. And they'd pass like probably 100 hospitals. And the guys looked at her and he goes, you might get fired. Taking them there, she goes, let's do it. They drove me all the way to Stanford. And the nurse's name was what?

Well, when I got to Atlanta. That would be good. was that page and said her name was good good quick one but they what they was name was hope well the emmage girl's name was fate when i land in aladdin when i land in Atlanta delta clear out like four seats at first time i'm a delta guy man they took care of me i landed in Atlanta they pulled the ambulance right to the stairs and they're not supposed to take you through the airport to that where the amos could be like the center of of one of the terminals it took me right down stairs her name is faced she's out I might lose my contract like so I'm

taking straight to shepherd and I got that um shepherd I all I could do is look up and I they put me in room 316 was John 316 so I don't what's the odds of that and hope and grace are two nurses in the in the that's it that's it that's it there's not that there was any doubt in my mind when I got here but if there was it's gone there's just no on there's earthquake and the way to the airport from Stamford to the flight. The Amazon is going like this. Wow.

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people, you know, some people critical that I have these stories, that's why people are inspired. They're moved to action by other people. That's how this works. And for, what was I had? Oh, yeah, so me,

Steve Yu and Yoga Doc, but another one of my business partners, who's one of the best chiropractors on the planet and really giving guy who helped us a lot. Yeah, a lot. a lot and he um we go see him at shepherd and you know he's getting just arm movement back a little bit of leg movement back a two percenter they call my my function as a quadriplegic

for my tip injury i'm only got two percent of the traditional prognosis was 24-hour care um all that can we step right here for just a second what was it like hearing that my family was my family was devastated. They have a family meeting. Three rings and Shepard and they say, here's, with his type of injury, here's what we see. They're talking about and they go, well, how's your house? You have ramps or you guys need to set this up and you're like a van or something for him, special fan. I'm like, how long is that for it?

Like I do, how long do we got to do that? And they go, I go, well, the rest of your life, my family got to stop. What about you? What was your reaction? You know, my reaction, you know, I had the proverbs three, five, six on my chest every morning. Like, I'm trusting all your heart, lean not upon your understanding. Acknowledge them all your ways, he'll direct your path. So I was like, well, God, I go, I don't know how to live this way. So either bring me home or teach me how.

So I knew that whatever, whatever happened, wherever my future held, I knew he had me in his hands. So I was like, not thrilled about being paralyzed from the neck down. I have a few or days, I call it, from Winnie the Poo, you know, I feel sorry for myself, but I think I told you the podcast, the guy came to me and said, you can be such an example as most of young men here, watch you on TV.

They stop feeling sore up yourself, be in there and be a light that shines for them. I said, man, here I do still have a purpose. I'm not just like a sloth, you know, paralyzed to neck down. I still have a purpose that I can utilize to help other people, which is, you know, Dallas has it. When you sum up with D, not to embarrass you, but God gave him, I believe God gave you a special gift to serve and to help others.

It's called the gift of service and the gift of empathy. And that's what you have. And when I went to that at Beach House, I mean, I was so happy, he would never brag about it. It is so beautiful. The view of such a beautiful place. I mean, I mean, I feel like God's blessing you. God's rewarding you, all the help you via me and other people.

you know, we're getting back to Jake with the drugs and everything, and that was maybe the project that impacted the most was Eric's question. I'll tell you what got me was the butter bean video. I told you that. Stings read. That's what got me. I saw how bad butter bean was physically

and where I was at, how my quality run. When I saw we give a butter bean and I'm like, and maybe I should talk a deal about working with me. Maybe I can be able to stand again or something and get out of the chair or have a better quality life. That's my approach to met that. Oh, man. That butterpin thing got me, man. How long ago was that when you guys first started out together?

A little over a year. Yeah, a little over year. It's funny. Strings retirement match and we decided to start working again. And we were, it was March, I can't know, I can't in my granite. I think, think you'd work with you know, D. Jersey point. Bro, that's what I've been effing waiting for. Let's do it. You know, he was, he was, he was all in. I was, I was like a test in waters with him. I know he's busy guy. He's got this incredible company now. I said, I'm going to know, you have time to work with me. You know, so he was all in, man, from day one. He's a special guy. Special friend. I forgot what I was saying. A jersey boy who gets emotional. I love it. The thing with Lex,

you know, starting off, and, you know, me being there that day was so like. Briscoe, yeah, all of things. two of us bumped in the back. We were supposed to be were kind of in the back since family was at that one area there. Yeah. We were both pumped in there, so he's a lot.

I heard you were coming, but he wasn't there yet. I got there earlier. I mean, Scottie Riggs, and got there earlier. And then I was like, man, I can't believe Lixes in here. And he rolled up. You know, and then he said, he said to me, I was like, let's go, bro.

Now, let's go. And, you know, from there, it was a year to the day we're in Panama City Beach and we were we were just watching you and Steve

entered this thing together there is a year later we're in right the deal and first house guest in the new beach and he's going in the frigging hall thing that because that was part of it like maybe maybe

you know I could at least stand up rolling out stand up stand up and so He took on Triple H so much that he gave the name of his guy. I'm not trying to pull you up, but talk to band. But I got other stuff to do.

I don't know. You're blown up my phone with your legs. Talk to that. Of course, again, we talked about this last time when we were doing the climate conversation. that when it came to Lex, like he was the first shotgun cannon across the bat, of Monday Night Wars. He's just wrestled.

Did you wrestle the night before with WWE? I was on their take. They had to pull me off their shows. That was the one thing, Eric, and I was like, man, I had a personal relationship with him, and so I was at his house, but not with him. And Eric said, Eric goes, no, you can't give him notice. That's my only condition.

First, of course, he lowballed me to see if I had an attitude problem about it. But I never let confidence, I'll come in and he'll see how good I am and he'll give me a race, which Eric. Well, it wasn't a matter of how good you were, it's a matter where your head was at. Right, right. And but Eric was testing the waters with me. Kind of attitude check, maybe only you can answer that. But I'm like, okay, I'll, I'll, my stiff and the instinct, it seemed about for Eric's. Eric's, if you come in, you produce Eric, Eric's, he's a businessman, he's a fair guy.

Fair dude, yeah, exactly. So I'm like, okay. And, but yeah, that was, I was still on their TV. They didn't pull me off their TVs because you wanted to be a surprise. Yeah, right. And it was. But when Steve was on the phone, initially, because we met and decided to do it, I was still actually, people think I was trying to, I was trying to re-sign with W, but I was trying to get a marketing deal. outside of the wrestling contract. That's what held up. I gave my notice because we hadn't worked it out yet,

but I wasn't planning on leave. So when I thought the sting of that conversation, I was close to resigned with some kind of marketing. I was going to do fitness, nutrition stuff on the side. Right. And Vince, I could tell if I do that for you, I'd do it for everybody, you know, you know, from running a company. So I thought this thing that we're going to do a Monday night program.

I'm like, really? I was like, good luck with that. That's what I thought of it was. raw. Why would you run at the same time and the same night? We had the same conversation. So I'm like, so I was like, good luck with that. So when you asked me to make it, and I was going to be on the first

when they hit me, I mean, Eric, they hit me at a different, I mean, a different hotel and the other side of town. Made you buy your own ticket, I think. Yeah, exactly. I didn't want your name to show up in the WCW travel. I was at a separate hotel from everybody on a different part of town of Minneapolis. But me the other side of the back side of the mall,

And until really what we call the guerrilla position, WV, I walked up position. It was like, who knew besides you and Sting and maybe home? Not probably very small, I didn't even know. And he shared everything with me, but I didn't see it? I mean, I might not Sting, but it did Flair? No. No. Because I saw the guys in the crowd, there was like, she knew here. Yeah. No, nobody knew. Because, you know, this was obviously before the internet and social media,

But telephone, telegraph telegraphed telecastler. Right. Might as well just fly plane. The universe is going to be at the first nitro. And you know what was cool about that, Lex? People reflect back, well, why did Nitro have the success it had? There's a lot of different reasons. Timing being one of them.

And I admit that, really, the market was ready for it, you know. And but we did a lot of research before we launched Nitro. Brad Siegel, to his credit at T&T, he didn't want wrestling on T&T, but he didn't get to vote. Did they want wrestling at all? No. I told you I went that ice sculpture thing in the opening of the old Braves Stadium, and they did the long-range planning with the big, big money. Corporate guys were there. I was just a conversation piece as a wrestling.

Yeah. And this was in 97 or something. Right. They never mentioned WCW. No. And their long-range money. And number one shot. The big shots, like, almost didn't want wrestling.

They thought it was, like, southern lowbrow. They didn't want. They didn't want another. They didn't know. We were killing at ratings. Yeah. And, you know, people to this day all have their, you know, the dirty theories about what happened with WCW and they're clueless.

I'm going to have my wife and go, I better, like, maybe trying to make amends with Vince because I go. There's not going to be. I don't know how long it was going to be at WCW, the way that whole corporate thing went, not even mentioned, I was there and didn't even mention wrestling. They're not going to have wrestling. seem like down the line. And in 97, we were making money hand over fist.

Exactly. This was when we were kidding on it. We're all over the media. Wall Street Journal, you know, there's an ad in a Wall Street Journal, ABC Payport, during the up front. A full page ad in the Wall Street Journal trying to convince advertisers not to advertise in professional wrestling because we held three or four of the top 10 positions for the week, not for the night, for the week.

But to be in our company's corporate AOL, I think was AOL time. yet was it was time more time more and then you're long like decade out with the people that had that thing that as they're advertised were like CEOs of those like network other and advertisers these were the big ice sculptures and this thing was high high level stuff not even mention us we were like the biggest yeah I was ice rated original in the history of time we're toast I think we still have that I think they're gonna do wrestling as soon as they can I think if you look back

because Nitro was considered an original production of T&T and no cost relatively compared to big action movies and scripted things I think we're still the historically the highest rated original series in T&T and nobody have come close

to it now because television is changed and it was kind of hard to and Ted was out of it by then right Ted got my last show in the door by late 98 early 99 He was like the last thing. These are my wrestlers.

And we started with that. And he, when he was gone, I was like, now we're really toast. He saw a stock where he doesn't have any say something. They gave him an office in a corner and a desk and a mate plate, you know,

and he was just basically a figurehead. What is it that, I mean, I've known you for, I don't want to calculate, I can get a calculator to figure it out. That's how long it's been. But since I've known you,

your instinct, your nature is, to help other people. You did it in wrestling. You were like, you were like a kid that would bring home straight puppies. I was like,

can we get this one? You know, I know. So can we keep this one? He's really good. You know, this one does tricks. But that was, that was always your thing.

And now obviously we're seeing what you're doing on a much larger and, dare I say, more significant scale in terms of the benefit of the state of the art. it's it's impressive but at the core of Diamond Dallas page I won't say

Paige Walker because you legally change your name but at the core of Diamond Dallas page what where did that come from it's it always been like when you kind of you think you know um because I was bullied as a kid come I was really skinny I was tall but I was skinny as bullied by guys and stuff and you know and you know I'd listen to this uh this guy named zig ziggler he's still a lot today and i mean if you look at quotes by zig ziggler like there's about 20 that are us off the chain him jim rome and and he said one thing that really clicked with me and it just became part of my DNA and what it was is you can get whatever you want as long as you help enough people get what they want and somewhere down

how old were you when you came a question 22 years old i remember like it was yesterday one of the most dangerous parts of your lives yeah 22 to 35 is wicked dangerous by the time i was 23 i was running clubs you know so i was getting people jobs and we were having fun like you wanted to work with me because i was going to make it fun and um i never considered a job you know everything that i've ever done even though it's a lot of hard work I've never considered them jobs you know because I love what I'm doing

and I would do it for free and have and you know and have don't gloss over that you and I were talking that I don't want to mention names here because it's not important what's important though is the commitment and you put the person way ahead of the business the example you gave me was like

yeah I'll probably lose money on this for a while but we'll see what happens later right that That's a special gift, too. And the belief in myself, when, with all, and we know how hard it is for a guy to come in and being a manager and not have any real wrestlers and end up in the AWA with no, with knowing. Especially as a manager, six foot four. Right. And he's managing Pat Tonica, who's five for eight.

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Wow. Who's willing to put their name on the line for you? And, like, Dusty, there was one time when we brought Scott Hall on, right? I'm not into Scott now and a free bird. But we just did the, I want to say it was... Is this WCW? Yeah, WCW. And I had two smoking hot diamond dolls.

We're all in white, Scott's in white, I'm in white. And I cut this promo about the diamond stud coming to W. UCW and I had the gimmick, the Madonna, headpiece. And you got one of the first ones to ever have one, by the way. I thought it was all so over the top, this gimmick. I'm going to grow. I thought it was a gimmick.

I didn't think it actually worked. I said, I said, don't have to quit your day top. You want to make it in this business. You're way too. Over the top. Well, let me tell you what happened with Dusty Leder. So I didn't like the problem. I did. I'm too much refectious.

I was saying, in fact, didn't know how over the top I was on everything and annoying and, you know, the whole deal. I get it because I was trying to find myself, you know, and trying to find who is this guy. But I know who the fuck guy, who paid Joseph Walkerberg. I know who I'm going to invest in me every fucking time. And so. Don't believe in yourself. Who else is going to believe? Right, 100%.

So I get done with a promo. And now it gets all of us. And you can see the shot of the crowd, right? I go, come on, guys. This is got the fuck out of here. Next day, I'm on the road with free birds. And Michael says, you got huge heat. Now, those guys are ripping all the time.

So this sounded real, but with Mike, I didn't believe him. He goes, you got huge heat. I go, no, I don't. He goes, you do. I just got the phone with dusty. He goes, they want to fire you. I go, fuck you. No, they don't.

He's like, no, they do. They do. And he told me what happened. I was like, oh, that's not good. And Dusty went the bat for me or I was gone. So who's willing to say they know you? And we developed that relationship in Florida. And before we started this, me and you were talking about Cody leaving originally

and what balls that took. Right. That guaranteed money, as Star does, Cody Rose. to go off and become the biggest star in the world right now, that who would have seen that coming? But his old man, when WCW, because, you know, Tedd had bought, you know, I guess Watts's company, Crocket's company, and whatever, and so he had all this talent, and he was going to call World Championship Wrestling,

and they wanted Dusty to be a heel, and he went, no. How about no? I'm going to go back to Florida and I'm going to pop that because he owned Florida when you were there he could bring and sell out of an arena just do his autograph

he was so over and I get that call for Mike Graham because Pat and Paul that my tag team bad company were wrestling at the Eddie Graham Memorial and Mike Graham

picks up a phone and calls me and says I'd like to have you come in and be with your tag team I said, I'd love to. So I get a buddy of mine that wants to be a wrestler, and I gave him the name Rock Hard Rick, and that no one's ever used that name's kind of boggles my mind. That's such a great double entendre name.

And so I've got him and two diamond dolls in my pink Cadillac. And we're going down the road. So this sounds so much like you. And the AC's blowing. You know, the car's running great. It just had some work done. man, this car is doing great. We get, I'm in Fort Myers.

I get as far as Venice, which is still like 90 miles from Tampa. And I shoot blow a rod. And the car comes slowly over, and I get out of the lanes. But, you know, it's the exit lane. So I park in the middle. And I don't even know how I ended up getting AAA to come and get me. But these rednecks come running by. Hey, ain't you the guy of running?

runs the normal jeans i said yes i am i said are you guys wrestling fans damn right i go i'm also diamond dallas page and i'm going up to the eddie graham memorial in Tampa if you guys want to give us a ride i said i would love to get you in for free to the show hell yeah they went and got some beer showed up with there was no girl in the middle but now there's a girl in the middle of see we got a case of beer me and rock hardrick are in the back of the pickup and it looks like it's going to rain in any moment. And that's when I roll... Right, at any second.

And I roll into the baby, whatever the... I don't think it's the paper, et cetera. Whoever it was, that's where I meet, you know, Johnny Ace and so many guys that would later become influential in my life of the business. And, you know, I deal with Mike Graham, remembered I came. Like, he knew what happened. So when Dusty was coming in to... the pop territory still talking about florida still talking about florida he says he calls me up

and it's not going to be probably 12 30 1 o'clock in the morning and i let it just go to the machine you know because i got to get up where i'm leaving for um for uh w8 next morning at 8 o'clock flight which means you got to be up at like 530 you know to get to the airport on time and everything and i didn't realize i could change tickets back then to whatever they gave me i took you know maybe i worked there for a year. That means I worked 12 times, except for the time where they did the run of the clash

but I paid for you thing. So we can go work 15 times. But I hear his voice. And then who's Mike Graham? Mike Graham's voice, okay. DDP, guys, Michael Graham. Oh, I run the phone. I got sort of strep throat too.

I run the phone, hey, Mike, hey, I got strep throat. What's up, buddy? He goes, I'm sitting here with the American Dream, Dusty Roads. You know, he's figuring out who he's going to bring into the territory. He mentioned Baby Doll and Gary Hard. You know, I said, if you ever heard of Diamond Dallas Page,

no one's really seen him yet. He's got really good energy. He's a good kid. He goes, I want to put you on the phone with him. I want you to blow him away like he's the biggest mark on the planet. I'm like, no. I got, like, play him the videotape, I sent you. He went, the tape, the videotape machine is broken.

You're up. And I just went, good God. Dust the road, the towel about, and I went on this ramp, I stole his shit and Albano shit, some of the shit I made up on my own, and like 45 seconds, and I go, that's all I got, Dusty, I think I'm getting strep throat. Hello?

Dusty? It felt like five minutes. It was probably 30 seconds, and then only as you guys would know, he would say, well, that a recording, kid. And then he, He invited me up there.

He was just living in Dallas at the time. He invited me up there to meet with him. And I'm in the room with Mike Graham, Steve Kern, Gordon Solie, and Dusty Rhodes, who I would always call. That's a hell of a room. Hell of a room. Hell of a room. And I am just, Gibronie boys, been on, you know, maybe the business nine months. Oh, my goodness.

And I've worked nine days, right? So I really know nothing. And as he says, so tell me who Diamond Dallas page, the real person is. So I did. And I knew I wasn't going to quit my nightclub job because I paid me great money. And I owned a little piece of it. So I can't quit that to go on the road to be a manager, you know, for 200 bucks a week. So I basically laid down to where I was at, what my goals were, blah, blah, blah.

And at the end of it, he said, you know, kid, a seed. I see some Captain Blue in you. I see a little jessaventure in you. And I even see a little bit of me in you. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to make you the Jesse Venture the 90s. And I was like Jesse Venture. So you're nine days in the business.

Nine days. Nine days. Oh, my goodness. And I said, Dusty, I said, I never say the words I can't. I said, but I got to say, I don't know a wrist lock or wristwatch. And I said that line. And he said, don't worry about a kid. Go on solely or walk you through it all.

And I learned so much from solely. And I was up there every Tuesday to film TV. And every Thursday, I would come up. Because I wanted to, when I wrestled, I was a couple of times I told you, I didn't even learn nothing. I didn't even ever go to one time to take a bump, you know? So I wanted to know what these bumps felt like, whether it was a slam or whatever for the color.

So I had at least something that I acknowledge of. And what was cool is after about an hour of that shit, and I was like, I'm done. I go up my hang with dream. And he would put me in production meetings. He would ask my opinion of shit. like he he got off on my energy man and that's the only he was also developing you yes and teaching you and mentoring you yes you just didn't know it right exactly i was just so shocked

that i got a guy who you know was a god at that moment still just coming up got them and uh you know just to be with them spend time quality time and then my second uh My second, I was engaged three times forever got married. My second engagement, she broke up with me. And I was pretty bummed out about it. And him and Michelle drove to, which is down for Lee County Civic Center, was probably 120 miles from their house and met me at the thing. I brought a couple of my boys to go see Willie and there's Dusty up there singing with Willie.

He was supposed to go for one song. for the whole lesson to show up there to you back up with Willie and he just did some really cool things and I got his I had his personal number and he now he's living wasn't living in Tampa anymore

I can't remember where they moved to but he I could call you know and again who's willing to say they know you Cody's mom Michelle I thanked her in my all the fame speech because she would say

well Dusty's on the road but don't worry Dallas. You'll call you. She's a sweetheart. The best. She's such a sweetheart. He's a born mentor. You bring people on porn in their lives and watch them develop. He had that gift. We were talking about that before you got here.

As you were talking to full circle about what with Dallas, what was a driving force, you have a relentless pursuit of things. I believe it God give and give you. He's relentless. Oh, I know. Whatever you got.

You're all in. You're all in. you're in a relentless pursuit with your projects with people and it's a it's a special deal you know it's only because i believe and the biggest thing that i well if you don't believe who's going to believe in you i don't know eric i've heard many of you talk about guys who become big stars well this guy may not be the best interviewer the best guy in the ring but this particular guy really thought he was that you know what and like the people believe started believing he was i there's so many talented guys to try out for wrestling have a great body and great I think this guy's just made, but if they don't have a real desire to really pursue it,

but also really believe in themselves, the wrestling fans are very intuitive, I think. And they sense a guy, maybe not the best talk or the best work, but something about this guy. He really thinks he's special. The fans will buy into it. Right. All right, folks, over here, listen up, gather around. Come on, a little closer. Because Uncle Eric's got a story that'll make your nose hair stand up straighter than a caffeinated porcupine.

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The ones you aren't They have like a A gift A gift of they really believe in themselves And that comes across on television And the difference It's authentic because they really do believe That's the word right there

The difference between someone who's confident Successful in other parts of their lives Transitioning to become a character Most of them, 95, 98% of them are great athletes, probably great people, have a lot of other good things going on, but they're pretending they're a wrestler. They're doing what they believe a wrestling character should do. The other 2% are the people that figure out how to create, how to present charisma, how to be authentic, how to get somebody to believe in your character. and that has nothing to do with Birkenrattas

or you know jumping off the top of cages that has everything to do with what's in here and that's the one thing about wrestling fans and it's really fun for me they have a real sense for it they're a lot more discriminating than people think they have a

much more sensitive bullshit meter than your average fan of just about anything else and it's tough you've got to be out there they've got to accept you over a period of years, sometimes decades. If you listen to Stone Cold Steve Austin tell

this story, I did his podcast several years ago, and you listened to how he came, but he didn't really make it until he'd been in the business for 10 or 12 years. In the beginning, he's sleeping on the back of his car, going through all the tough things that a lot of you guys did. People think, oh, he became an overnight sensation. He developed that character

and more importantly the connection to the audience over a period of time so that when he did finally find that character Stone Cold Steve Boston, which is really just an extension of Steve Williams too, yeah, it's up, but the volume turned up a little bit. If it's not authentic, it's not in them,

even though we might amp it up for TV, it doesn't come across as authentic with the fans. There's got to be some of that guy in that character. It's fun to watch now, mainstream media, you know, mainstream entertainment, big stream entertainment, start recognizing

wrestling talent for the true gifts that they developed throughout their career. And I know you've dabbled in it. I just want to say devil's the wrong word. You've experienced it. I've experienced a little bit of it. You come on to a set. The expectations are somewhere down here near the floor.

They don't think you've got anything in the way of chops for acting. And then you do a walkthrough and all of a sudden you notice people go, who's that guy? Because you have been doing it. You know, you don't need hours of the script. Like your first take with Dusty. Oh, go ahead and talk, kid. And you nailed it. Yeah.

Perfect example. What's your first memory of Dusty? I met him really first time when I did the 605 show, like my debut. And Rick has gathered me out down there. Did you work in Florida? I was working Florida. But Dusty wasn't there. No.

He was here. And Rick came down and wrestled me a couple times. You can come out and wrestle a bunch of guys. And Rick came back and thought, you didn't take a look at this guy. And they brought me the 605 show and a Saturday night show. And that Buster sent me out on TV for the first time. And in the back, Rick was standing there, Dusty and Brad Armstrong was off the side. And I wasn't wrestling bad, but I was with an enhancement talent guy, a good one.

Right. And the George Sousel, somebody like that. Right, right. And they, remember the little TV match, like a, we call squash match for three minutes. But Dusty said, and I was going to do something at the desk real quick. And I'm looking at you as the brains, the brawn, the look. I want you to be extremely confident out there. What's your finish?

I was naming some things. And they said, and they, Dusty, while they're into with Rick in the back, came up the torture rack, which became my finish top of my career. So that was just a day that came up in the torture. Off the cuff in the back. How about a back brick? You look at Rick and they had Brad who can go up easy. Sure.

Show my idea. I picked Brad up and they said that shows his body and let's go with it. You're going to use that after the finish in this match. Okay. And if you go power slam, pick him up in the right. Okay. My signature finished. And when you go to the desk, I want you to be the brains, the brawn, and the,

And look, just everything. How long had you been working at that point? Less than a year. You had a little more experience than he did. He took out in Florida and cut a promo on the guys in the back in Florida. Called a Sunset Flip and an hour. Thayer took me between an hour match. I didn't know what a sunset flip was.

No, no, back that up again. I got to hear that again. Blair called, it took me through an hour match 60 minutes. A lot of bed homes. With less than a year of experience or a year of experience. Yeah, and Claire got me through an hour match. Crazy. That's how great he called the sunset clip at one point I was on the apron pull myself up he

got up the ropes his son he goes uh uh he goes shoulder to my sick and sunset flip make I go what's that oh rich is the one he's the one to put you on the ring yeah rick's in the ring goes oh my god like what am i in here away he called a small package I go what what what's that I learned the basics, those lines, not take punks, but that's all I do. Rick got me good, but Rick went back there and Rick saw something in me, mentioned me to Crockett and Dusty, but Dusty, in a matter of minutes, my friend's end up using my whole career, how creative he was, and he also gave me my, he was he was talking about the brains and the prong and the looks,

I want you to be like the total package. so in a matter of a couple minutes came with my finish that was with my whole career and my nickname he was an amazing he was amazing just natural like size summed up that I want you to be the brains and want you to know that that's what you are and when you talk I want you to do the total package baby so it's all an impromptu in the back yeah I've grown crazy you first break into the business It's because it's in the mentoring, right? And now you're doing that for others.

That's your special gift. You want, so many people help you along the way. Now you want to help others, right? I sort of think Jake said to me, but I said, dude, how do I pay you back? This is for any, you know, as early on as possibly goes, just share, share it. That's all he said, just to share it with somebody else. Absolutely. Well, I remember, because there was a lot going on at the time.

But you and I started talking about one of those Saturday afternoon drives around on your Mercedes 450SL, which I love that car. It was a great car. Converbal. He'd come over on a Saturday morning about 11 o'clock in the morning after it's been time with the kids and everything. So let's go for a ride. Once in a while, there'd be a couple beers in the car. We'd be driving around Atlanta, springtime with the top down and go find a Mexican restaurant somewhere. That place had a great burritos.

Oh, it's awesome. That's amazing. Yeah, we're there. We can't be too hot for him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Still.

We're the only one that spoke English. Yeah. It's the best food ever. Yeah. But on one of those rides, we were talking around, we were driving around talking, and I don't know how it came up, and the idea was, let's, I wanted to put together a bunch of really young wrestlers. Like, I'm thinking legal age 18 to 22 was a demo I was looking for.

I thought, let's put these guys in a bus and do basically. a reality show just following these kids around trying to learn how to become big stars there's like minor leagues of wrestling right i was shooting for but guys living together in a bus to travel around and we would promote the towns you know they'd be like bfw venue and you know put 25 30 people in a in a building that was the idea real gritty little budget kind of stuff so you went on i sent you out because i didn't know any of people out there i said let's go find some people my Find some guys you think are good. And comes Chris Gannon.

In comes Billy Kidman. I was telling him a story. We've already got a bunch of people's jobs at this point, right? And I say, Kenyon, I can't bring any more people right now because he, you know, he's, he's got a lot of, you know, his plate. And he goes, just look at the finish. Just look at this finish. And he takes the VHS tape, props it in. He does that son, that shooting star thing he did.

I grabbed the tape I walk over the hill and go ahead and he's watching TV I sit down, he's watching TV I wait till you know, I always pay attention so I just don't say shit until the commercial because what's up? He said you want to see a great finish he goes absolutely

I popped the tape in he goes wow he goes what's he doing? He said looking for a job he said 400 a week no better deal tell me down here next week that's how it happens you know Good news there's great you go

and there was there were you know Shane Hayne's there was a there had to be a dozen of them that we ultimately brought in Jimmy Yang

Jimmy Yang but out of those dozen people that he brought in and helped several of them still have careers to this day

and by the way good careers oh yeah you know and they're not taking bumps they're working behind the seats and producing and they're probably very successful.

Kidman's in the guerrilla spot. Kidman is there. It's funny. Every time I've been at WWE, you know, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at Billy Pittman, you know, in the gorilla position as a producer.

And I'm thinking to myself, wow, this is just such a fascinating thing to see how far some people have come. But that's all the giving nature, going back to your instincts and really who you are as a person. Gift of service, we call it in the faith base work.

He's serving now, in here and outside, actually inspiring people. But that's just always been your driver. You've never been a selfish person. You've wanted... God giving you, my brother. He's wanted his own success, obviously, and relentless, to your point,

lax, in terms of what he's got to do to get it despite the odds. And a connector. He likes to connect people. Yep. If you call him about something, oh, I know this guy, and he connects you with him. Yeah.

He's a connector. I call you the connector from many, Many nicknings, so all good now. Yeah. How about the, what you couldn't talk the other day, the voice? Oh, my gosh. I lost my voice with all the interviews, podcasts, and things were congratulatory stuff.

I lost my voice. And he's giving me all these exercises to do for my voices. I know he's working on my walking and stuff and my standing, but he's giving me all these tips and how to get my voice back. And I'm like, even his training tips. How do you know that? How do you know training tips? My ex-Y was a speech pathologist.

I go, where do you get all this stuff and get my voice back? I mean, you've been to a speech therapist? Yeah, I have. Because I couldn't speak. He knows I exercised your voice cords. GDPY yoga does it all. Oh, God.

Crazy. So, I don't want to, first of all, I want to check the time here because I was hoping to keep this under three hours. How are we doing that time? Just out of curiosity. What are we at? Oh, we're only in an hour and a half.

We're doing good. I want to go back to your faith a little bit because, to be honest, again, I said this in the beginning. I think I've mentioned to you before. Not to go back in time too far, but I had an opinion, a perception better. I had a perception that created opinion about you and who you were and all that. And when you found Christ, and I first started hearing about that, I was skeptical. I'm kind of cynical by nature to begin with, you know, I guess if you spent 30 years in a wrestling business, it'll turn you. Yeah, it was like Lex.

Lex was like religious guy or was like that's a say? You don't be kidding me. And I was, again, cynical. I won't go into detail. But I said, I want to pay attention. I'm going to watch this guy. And at that time, I've wrestled with my faith, so speak, in finding it since I was 50 years old. And it would be on again and again, you know, sometimes I feel like I was getting closer and I would allow the static in my life as I refer to bad habits and things, focus.

And I get farther and farther away and I drift back every once in a while. So that's been my relationship with Christ since I was about 14 or 15. So when I started hearing you talk about it, cynical as I was, something made me pay attention. Despite a natural resistance because of the perception. Well, we're all born in resistance to it. We want to be in charge and not acknowledge our career. We want to take credit for what we accomplished. But it all comes.

Yeah, I had a lot of that going out. Mine was, I asked me, I said, what kept between the floor of the cross? Ignorance about Christ or arrogance? I go, I had a double dose of both. I started watching it, and more importantly, listening to you. And over a period of, I don't know, a year or so, I said, this is real. This is not somebody who's seeking attention by professing something that's maybe kind of half

true, maybe not. This is somebody who really believes. Supernatural. It's experiential. You can talk about all you want the people, but unless they, you have to experience wow, this whole thing about the Holy Spirit coming in. Yeah, it's real.

Transforming your heart from the heart of stone and the heart of flesh and changing you completely it's a real experience. You can only experience is describe it for me. 100% believe that to be true. I'm just going to get right to it. When

what was the moment do you feel where you finally connected with Christ like it where I don't know

it could have happened over days or weeks or months but there had to be a moment when you went this is going to be the rest of my life this is something I believe in so much and it's going to change me

when was that moment for you my life had become so dark I was so depressed that I always thought I could figure things out so when people talk about you're at the end of your rope or I saw no way out. I thought my life was over.

I assumed never had anything to do with me. I was toxic. I was stayed in an extended state hotel with my stuff, my stuff in storage that I accumulated through all my so-called success. And I just, I was working the dog pound of my judge for my 17 felony counts. I got convicted on five and I was in out of jail. I was just stayed and stayed during community service work. A dog pound clean out dog in cat cages, and I was so depressed, still drinking, still doing drugs.

I was at such a low, but I didn't care if I woke up the next morning. I'm trying to kill myself, but, or anything, or, um, zero hope. Yeah, this, I'd given up hope. I figured I can't fix this. I always thought I could fix everything. So God allowed me, and I, and that was, for me, that was the greatest thing ever could happen to me. I always thought I could figure it out and pull myself out of it. And I saw no way out.

So when I met the jail chaplain who ended up introducing me to Christ in jail, I completely rejected me, a Bible the first time I threw it in the floor. I was an atheist agnostic at a really low point in my life. But he wouldn't give up on me. God placed him on my life. He stayed the guy who married me the other day. He was there for my salvation, that hotel room. I gave my life to Christ.

Even at the last moment where I asked Christ to come in life and take over, like there's a song called Jesus, Take the Wheel. It was hard for me, my arrogance and my pride. I always wanted to make decisions to be in charge of my life. And it's scary to think, well, because you walk by faith, we walk by faith, not by sight. I couldn't, I couldn't, I was like, I couldn't pick it up. I want to see him as I want a voice to talk to me.

I wanted to prove that there really wasn't God. And you get, but you got to come by faith. And that was really difficult for me to get my arms around. I still didn't quite understand it. But Pastor Steve gave the most beautiful presentation of the gospel. They call it the Romans Road. And when he got to the end, Romans 10, 913, and he confessed to Jesus Christ is the son of God. And I, let me read out a lot.

I started crying. No, I'm not a cry. Yeah, in the hotel room. And at the last minute, Satan came in one more time and said, it's too late for you. And I said to Steve, I said, well, I wanted to go, you would get down and pray and ask Jesus, the Lord of your life and dedicate your life to him. I go, I said, man, Steve, it's too late for me, man.

I've done too much bad stuff. I've hurt too many people, too much collateral damage. Yeah. And Steve just said to me, he goes, it's never too late for him. He goes, he meets you right in the muck and mire of where you're at. There's a difference between Christ as a born and believer in all the religions and the world is that they're all trying to climb or work the way to heaven or do good stuff. Christ has already accomplished, but you need it right to cross for you because he loves you.

He wants to offer you to get it. He meets you right where you're at right now, right here in this hotel. He's got to ask him to come in, but he knocks on the door. And the outside, the door handles me and says, you got to let him in. I understood that. So I go, well, by faith, I'm going to, okay, what do we got to do? He goes, get down and hurry now. It's funny.

I mean, he's good. Obviously, Pastor Steve is really good at what he does because he knew exactly how to frame that for you and where you were. Yeah, he said, he said, I go, well, I got to do that. He goes, we got to get down and ask, he just to come into your heart. There's the door handles on the inside. Like, God doesn't kick his way and take the door down. He goes, he even taught me how to preach the gospel to people, even know the language. He had me to do God on one.

on shore, you on the other shore, and there's a big river, a chasm between us, and what's the gospel of Jesus Christ? You put arrows like works and good deeds and all these different stuff you're trying to get the other side, the arrows never quite reach. So they're nodding and then you do this, you do that, then you draw a bridge between the two sides and you're a Jesus across the bridge. Anything else doing this law. It's a most simple, clear picture of what Jesus has done for us at the cross. Were you, that's the only connection for us is God can't be, you know,

you have to go through the sun to get this on. Were you scared about like once you got down on your name? It's giving up control, right? That's what I wanted to get to. I'm a control. We're all used to having control. I want to be in charge. Our pride is we want to be in charge.

We're like never surrendered. You know that I'm surrendering my life over just to someone something else. That's scary, man. That's the faith blood, right? Yeah. And if you've never had it, yeah. Talk about working without that. But I actually thought of physical, like I was almost getting power washing inside when I said that prayer to ask me on my, I felt like I was getting.

People at the gym thought, there's something pastor Steve afterwards, saw the media transfer me. I wasn't cussing anymore. I wasn't cussing anymore. I wasn't cussing. I didn't realize that people. And people thought that people on the gym saw me with a pastor working out. They thought I was in some kind of new drug. Well, yeah.

Yeah, good point. Yeah. And you haven't looked back. He was, he transformed my life over time. A whole new set of friends and brought back into my life, the people who really matter to me from wrestling and or else brought them around to maybe consider being my friend, you know, it's amazing. I told the story about the fans, how special,

I was a guy wrestled because I made money at it. I wasn't a wrestling fan growing up. So I was like, these fans are crazy. I was trying to avoid the fans almost, going to the back door of the hotels instead to avoid him. And when Steve, I told you, I took me that Walmart, you've heard that story. Sure.

And tried to get me going to Walmart. I wouldn't go in. I thought, the old Lexa, that's where poor people shed. I've never been in a Walmart. Give it and stopped in a Walmart after the work. I worked out at the gym and tried to get me to go in. And I was such a snob.

And unsafe snob. I love Walmart. But, yeah, he tried to get me a finding one. And the fans made the biggest deal on me when I walked in. I'd given up hope that ever had anything he was wrestling in. That was the first step where I saw hope for me and maybe my life isn't completely over. And my life, the fans would make us so. They just loved, I mean, that's Walmart store.

it's funny you bring up hope because I think that's one of the things that wrestling fans are special man you know that They're different kind of breed, man. Yep. It's easy to lose hope. In any walk of life, if you're working in an office, if you work for a big corporation, if you're working in the post office, hope is something that's very easy to lose. And you don't realize how devastating that is for you. And I think that's one of the cool things about you from a Christian point of view

and having been saved and living in a life you lived before you were saved. And where you're at now, hope was that. Hope is the difference. In your case, Christ provided that. In your case, you're providing hope to people who have also given up on it, whether, and I don't know, I mean, I know, but I've worked with him. A direct correlation. But there's a definite connection and hope is at the center of.

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working out together again and found it through christ but give me an example somebody that came to you that really had given up on themselves and looked at this as a lot of last last resort i've i told dallas said she's a following where i do appearances you know i got all kind of people that he's affected in a profound way through his training and online through the streaming and all that i mean that's probably a very tough question it really is because there's there's so it's shocking to me how many people get sober to doing the program and being around the people that it still may drink but they want they know that alcohol and drugs not working for them like we've had like we've done uh positively unstoppable challenges where we literally find champions

and the people they've got to document their process because you know they're putting work in you can see it. And when people can see it, and then it gets emotional, which is what our guys do when they're telling the story, it moves people to action. And so many, like so many people that come pretty much have given up, you know, hope. Like that's the biggest thing. There's how many online between Facebook and Instagram and TikTok. How many trainers are out there selling there? I'll bet you there's a hundred thousand trainers. Yeah, so where I read it was like a $41 billion.

Nutrition programs. We were talking about the country. Like everything. Everything. Everything. Yeah. There's so much out there. That we,

it took eight years to be an overnight success, you know, just like it. I was funny when you bought the yoga mat and lock. Remember, look at the day else. They're stretching. It looks like Gumby over there on the man. I was a mock on me, but, boy, you got the last last last. on me oh my god yeah but i there's just so many people that if you just go to probably just go candy uh she was one of our champions if you watch candy's video

now describe what a champion is to people that may know uh there are people who put the work in like i people would never believe that they could get my time like a wrestling would never believe if they put the work in and i see them helping other people so when i say champions we did this cut now we have a single because i didn't want to pick any more champions i want everybody champions um it was so hard because it went from supposed to be three i pick six you know then i picked eight now i pick 12 i pick 13 a diamond dozen 13 now i fly all those people in They get a cash prize, and there's one person who has a chance to win a quarter of a million dollars. They're a $25,000 minimum, but one of the books got a quarter of a million bucks in them.

And we do the same thing like the golf tournament. Sure. Got the insurance and shit. So we did get to tell everybody that. You couldn't have to tell everybody that. You could have just told them you're putting up your own money. Yeah, but, hey, it's still 100 grand. It's still 100 grand between everything, you know, and you might not get anybody.

but you might get some really amazing stories. And we've got, oh, God, there's just one girl. Now, I'll come back to candy, but Stephanie Keller. I thought Arthur, he was the big, but he was someone that was like. Arthur was one of your first success. He was the guy that came in. Shark Tank. He's, back then, there was no app where the app has everything, you know, from over

500 workouts plus there's 40 or 50 power cup workouts on there but it's we don't just show you how to eat we prepare it for you we've got three different 90 day eating plans that are at different levels and more inspirational and something'll flick a spark to get you and then we have a community like no one has and steve's brilliant idea this year is transformation university Like, we have, like, every, every bit or on those 3,000 people sign up in the beginning. Now, over this term of this class period you're going through, there's lectures. There's how to do everything. And I'll come on once a month and do something as well.

But I bring in people like Candy and Stephanie and John and Scotty and different guys in to talk about the guys. Guys who continued with it. There's a lot of people, they do lose weight and they get a great shape. And then I've got to get fat again. Exactly. Because they didn't do the whole, they didn't do the whole thing. The first thing that you have to do on the app is called the list. And the list, number one, is what's your why?

Like, why are you here? Don't just tell me, write it down and video it. So you're going to want to remember it later. And then it's my smackdown. That's accountability in a way to. 100%. And, yeah. Now, number two, I believe, is SmackDown, which is as an acronym, specific, measurable, achievable, compatible, keep it going, do it, own it, write it down now.

How do you set goals? How do you keep upon it? And then there's videos that will inspire you. And then I'm going to take you to food because for the first time ever, we have someone in Robert Kennedy Jr. And whether you think he's crazy or not, one thing he is absolutely true about is the food. they can't prove the vaccine even though I didn't take a jab and I would never do it but you know I'm not going to get on the bandwagon for the vaccine because there are some good vaccines back before they were trying to kill us uh so thanks for throwing it I appreciate it though

you know what I mean you know so um the bottom line is the food he has made more people wear it if you go on there's a dirt the food babe I don't know I've seen her she's great she just did a run on Kellogg's and they had easily 1,000, 2,000 people with them but she had 400,000 names that a petition for Kellogg's to at least

give us the food that you give Canada because the shit that they put in our food, which is it gets been jacked up but that that's so bad for us and addictive and all the shit that fucks you up

And why do we have so much cancer? I mean, why do we have so much autism? Diabetes? Heart disease? Everything. So, obviously, I'm pretty passionate about it. But Robert Kennedy, he is doing something. He's making people aware.

We'll see what he can really get done. But it's not to interrupt the face because you're on a world. But I agree with 100% of the other than you're saying. And I think what Kennedy, what I at least interpret from my perspective is that he's not trying to force anybody to change what they eat no he is trying to make you a hundred percent aware or at least give you the opportunity to be aware of what you're eating once again while they're talking about once again he comes across as authentically caring about being passionate about he's authentic about and whether you agree with them or not he comes across

as authentic about people being healthy i i just had and i'm gonna i just had one of my buddies I've got five, I've got hundreds of instructors or do DEP yoga, right? And transformation coaches, you know, that are helping everybody. And, you know, they get paid, you know, but little, it's nothing, you know, but they want to help people.

If they're they have, they want to help people. So out of my five who are... That's part of the payback. It's not always monetary in life. No, 100%. When something happens, does it changes our life. I know he wants us to share it. I want to share them up.

how God changed my life with people. I'm thankful. I'm grateful. You're changing people's lives. They're grateful they want to share it with others. And that makes your whole company go viral. And of the five, I have five master instructors that can you teach everything, know everything that's out. Two of them are doctors. And one is an MD from Canada.

And his name is Dr. Marcel Dore. When he teaches his classes, a Tuesday and Thursday, it has 70 to 100 people on a football field. And they're all like older people, 50 and up, that are doing the workouts with them. But I had them send me a fruit loops from Canada. And when you put the fruit loops from Canada next to the one that they make here, the poisons that are in that food. But Canada's like, we're not taking this shit. Same in Europe.

Same thing. Same thing. Same. So those companies, the Coca-Cola's all of them. I call them all out, man. Give us the same shit. At least you give them. Well, they're, U.S. companies specifically, and I'm not an expert. I want to make that clear. I'm not trying to sound like one, but I do, I'm down this, I'm in this rabbit hole, both Lori and I together. She's been studying nutrition for 30 years, different courses and accreditation and all that. I'm just, you know, a consumer. But we're both down this rabbit hole. And a lot of, you look, for example, at what happened to the tobacco industry. Right. When the lawsuits came down and they had spent all the money that they spent because of tobacco advertising and how they got people hooked, that's what they did next. They went out of what food companies.

Right. Because they knew they had engineered addiction into cigarettes, which were addictive anyway because of nicotine. Obviously, but they found a way to enhance it. Right. and make it even more addictive. Well, since they couldn't do that with tobacco anymore, what's the next best thing? Everybody eats every day, let's go get that.

And a lot of the additives that are in that food, the dyes, for example, on fruit loops, well, that's a visual thing. It doesn't affect the flavor. It doesn't affect the texture. It's not the bite thing. It's just color. Right.

And it's toxic. And when the tobacco company's got a whole of food companies and all of their addiction engineering came with it, here we are today, It's why people, and I'm sure you run across this every day, you may have experienced it, but it's hard for people to give up certain things. My wife, Lori, talks about it because she coaches people, and she's been very, very successful with it and helped a lot of people in a similar way that you do.

But people will say, well, I can't give up my potatoes, like my potatoes. I can't give up. I've had this conversation with people. Like one habits, right? I'm not going to give up my beer. Like, I want to, you know, somebody will look at me in time. That would have been you years ago.

It would have been me two years ago. Right. It was like, it's a possession. Right. Like giving up a food that you like or ice cream or beer, it becomes your beer. Your ice cream. You're not taking my ice cream away for me.

It's a weird relationship that people have with food. Yeah. And I kind of crossed the threshold when I realize, And I've always liked to eat. I love it and still do love that. I'm on a strict carnivore diet. I say strict. I'm going to qualify that.

About 98% of my calories come from protein. 2% of it will come from cheese. I love protein. Glass of milk or something like that. But once you start for me, I should say for me, once I looked at food as a nutritional source and not as a reward or something I deserved, I don't know, I got it, I had a good day at the office. I deserve a pizza and a six-pack of beer, I dream, whatever.

You end up with that relationship, and it starts with being a child. You get rewarded with sweet things. So your brain wires itself to believe you deserve these things. And somebody like DDP coming along and saying, now we're going to cut that out. It's like, it's like reaching my wallet, taking my money. Wait a minute. What you're saying, eat to live, don't live to eat, whatever you want, choose wisely what he

that's where remember you said the day yesterday is tell me why like what's the reasoning so so when you get to the list the last part you're going to go over is the food and the food it ain't mean right doing this

documentary we do documentaries but not like this food ink won the Oscar I believe in 2007 and what Mancanto which bear just bought him and you know still making money off of whatever

I don't know enough about that I know and by the way I don't mean to interrupt you because I don't want you to lose your train of thought but do yourself a favor and I don't know read about the history of bear the company in Germany just educate yourself to be amazed yeah so the next one is

food ink and the food not for fooding what is it called genetic roulette what they did to the form what what they've done to our food and it's all about money just follow the money and the last one is GMO OMG like educate like when people do that because I've had I worked with so many people just because I got the program just because I know they've done the list and they come through

some connection somewhere and I I know them do the list and get back to me so now we talk about the list if the list you don't do the list and i ask you questions you know what happens is most people don't do the list you're head of curve and that i remember this you walk in my apartment like 10 years ago when i was back in Atlanta first time and you open my fridge you open the freezer and i have a treat i had a big treat day back then open my business all this ice cream you go bro bro what's with all this shit in here i was like i was offended well i have a treat day Oh, get rid of that stuff. All that stuff.

I remember, did you remember that? He was, like you said, it was my stuff. You know, that's why. He felt there was like a position. Yeah, I felt violated. They looked at my food was, you know, like saying, telling me get rid of all that stuff. Yeah. We get into that habits, right?

But it's tough. People don't realize how physically, mentally, addictive food is engineered. I love ice cream. I can't give my ice cream. I can't give her that dairy. let me give you the best example when jake came in he didn't have a choice i bought all the food he thought it tastes delicious they watched the movies so they knew scott was like man you

ruined me now i've watched these movies now i know but they're feeling better because i've taken the shit out of their diet right and put real food there like a celiac come to my house and be okay And we're not celiac. We're, we, we, we air on the side of gluten-free, uh, free just so, because my gelates, you know, and now it's anything, I, we could drink like crazy suckers back when we had all the, you know, the enzymes and hormones, just huge, we had that. And at some point, as you go on, want to know why you feel like shit, stop eating the nightshades. Well, what's nightshades? And I would go back and forth to Dr. Kent West, and I would lie to him. Like, no, I didn't.

He goes, yes, you did. And he could do muscle testing. And today, I would never go to a regular doctor before I went to him and go, okay, what's happening here? And as long as I eat clean, I feel really good. And to me, nothing tastes better than feeling really good. Right. especially at 69 I thought you were 72

yeah that's a running joke it's been going on for 40 years but he doesn't sell it anymore so it's not nearly as much fun Lex this is even a hard question to ask and if it

comes off wrong I apologize I just I've only got one year do you do you think what happened in San Francisco. Do you think that led you to being a better person? I know the answer to that question already,

but in a weird way, do you think this is part of your plan? Absolutely. Nothing happens about God allowing in our lives. God will take our adversity, our biggest test, and turn them into positives, give me a different outlook on life

and trust my trust with him. of bringing me through it. And when God brings us to the other side, I've met lifelong friends who shepherds, I visit and people, he wants us to be, there's a Bible verse, and it talks about how, Corinthians, it talks about God, the great comforter in our time of me, he comforted me through mine,

and in turn were to comfort others. So once again, helping others to reach out, it makes you, I think have more empathy, and makes you a different person. So our greatest challenge is what looks like greatest strategies can be turned into when we let him work through us on that, our greatest triumphs, for sure. This is what I was really trying to ask.

I've lost 100 pounds of muscle, but for my injury, I'll never get back. I spent my whole life building that up, and a matter of months, it was all gone. But he showed me that our true strength is our inner strength comes from inside out, not from the outside of. And so he kind of let me get rid of that muscle suit so I could be more valuable, I think, human beings to try to my outlook on others and help people. And inspire others, like me, by the way, just for just for a little bit.

This is what I was really trying to ask when I just asked the previous question. This is a verse as my, my strength verse best in your ways. Are you grateful for what happened to you in San Francisco? Yeah. absolutely love that that's i say he's the best human being i know listen if you enjoy this show i know that you love nostalgia and when i think about nostalgia for my life yes i think about wrestling i think about saturday morning cartoons and i think about a big bowl of cereal well there's now a nostalgically delicious cereal that tastes just like your childhood favorites but without all the

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I managed, Fred. He was the big steel man. I didn't know that. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. And that's awesome. Yeah. I literally woke up thinking of him today.

What else we got? By the way, Fred Oppen is going to be on 83 weeks. We're going to do an interview here, I think, next week. So we'll have a chance to hear him. What a great human being. It sounds like a great. I see him every once in a lot of conventions. We, you know, say hello, short conversations, but Super Dave, keep them rolling, Dave.

Don't let me, don't make me ask for him. Travis Midway. Hey, Jets, much love to all three of you, just wondering on Lex and DDP's nutrition diets these days. Has there converted you yet to carnivore and fasting yet? Amazing to see all three of you, healthy and happy. You ever thought about carnivore? Absolutely, I love protein. I can survive on protein only.

I eat very minimal carbs now because I'm, I have to, I can't work out. I used to sort of maintain healthy body weight. Being out as being as active as I was, I eat mainly protein with just enough carbs, give me some energy. Sure. But, man, I'd rather, like, protein, all day and, you have thought about it? No, I have. I have. And I'm very, very, I don't know if I have that discipline yet, but I look at it in what you did and how you feel.

And I'm going to start following that doctor. and Dr. Sean Baker C-Cha-W-N-Baker S-Baker M-D-N-X And I turned you on to that Mattie, do you be fair, go out to my car, I want to let them both try the it's in my white cooler

just popped the load off and grab the two bags of rib-eye Oh yeah Yeah, I want to show that because that's the only Whenever there's a small company that's doing good things and puts out a really good product

and it's not cheap, but it is so worth it. I try to give them a little boost. I don't even want anything for it. I just want to... I get it. I'm the same way. I get it. There's a product I use called Perfect Aminos. Gary Breka is the guy that created it.

It's a complete, you know, all eight essential amino acids. So I take like five servings a day, which is 25 of these tablets. And you get all, one serving, five tablets, gives you the equivalent of 30 grams of weight protein.

no calories, zero calories. So, like, I like to fast, as Travis brought up, I'm a big believer in fasting. I do a couple five-day fast. Do you don't eat anything for five days? I don't need anything for five days. I'm not doing water only. Wow.

Just water. I include coffee. But no food for five days. You put nothing in your coffee, too, right? No, just black. When I'm fasted, occasionally I'll throw cream in it. Right. Because cream is cardboard.

Right. It's an animal. sure so you can justify it but it does have sugar in it and i'm really super sensitive to sugar so i stay away from it as best i can but yeah i love the carnivore diet i follow start a follow with sean baker he's a uh and i'll send you some information Lex he's a orthopedic surgeon 58 years old uh i think he's like 6 566 whatever 270 pounds or something like that he is currently setting uh competitive rowing records and he's been carnivore for eight years he was the first one to he was the first person I heard talk about it I jumped on it and I'm never

going back like one of the guys we have Justin Dobbins six seven six hundred ninety eight pounds in 22 months just carnivore he lost 402 pounds and went from not being able to be in down dog to go but he was in his at five hundreds doing the workout the beginning was just walking but then he wanted to have the mobility and again one of the champions because he's like wow and that's the first person I've heard that was carnivore then you told me and then we got in gym billy and he frigging he was jacked last night was really really interesting to watch his body change it was already looking good but now like pretty crazy I was always thought carbs were your fuel your energies how do you get any energy without carbs I was

I have some carbs. How do you transition to all protein? Where do you get your energy? I always look at protein as for your muscles, like the oil in your engine, where in the gas tank is where you pour your carbs. You won't do too many. I always through the years balanced my look in wrestling

through carb manipulation, high, low, medium, they stay leans. I'm like, well, where do you do? You might go low carb. I have low energy. So that's where I always, I can't just go off. Well, see, with the bodybuilder diet,

you're going low carb and low fat right you're eating a lot of chicken you know a lot of fish you get energy through the fats nutritional fat's why you know eating a steak there's a lot of healthy nutritional when i eat a steak now last night i didn't because i'm just actually just getting full but typically if i eat in new york strip there's nothing left on the plate i don't trim off the fat i eat the fat because that's where the energy's where rib eye comes in right yeah yeah it's It's amazing. All right. We got another one, Super Dave.

Aunt Evans. Hey, Ant Evans. GDP. No one in American life, no one in American life has had a greater third act than you. I turned 48 last week and you continued to be an inspiration to me. Hey. Thank you, bro. That's a great dude.

He's a great guy. It just comes down to frigging doing what saved me in wrestling. and I'm just going to take care of myself. Everything I've done for everybody else started with me, you know, and everything like, I'm the human kidney pig. I'm the human kidding pig. And I would never tell anybody to do something that I don't do myself, you know? But I went to his house yesterday after we left here.

We're going to get back to a couple more questions in just a minute. Then we'll probably be wrapping this up, and I don't know, an hour and a half or two hours. I'm giving that to you. Oh, thank you very much. I can't eat and talk at the same time. So I'll save it for what we're done. They are delicious, though. But I forgot what I was going to ask.

So let's go to a question, Super Dave. Alex Constantino, Constantino, Constitino, Lex Bookerty talked about your Hall of Fame induction recently and put you over big and was very happy for you. Do you in Dallas have any Booker stories? Oh, pick one. Do you have a Booker story? You know, I lean on me, a guy, who's the guy? who this principal who locked the doors from the drug dealers

what was his name you know the story I'm talking about well either way he had he got drugs out of his school but they were selling drugs in school and so it's me and book and we are up and now this is a

holding area for guys not for kids who could go to the joint if they don't get their shit together they're all going to the chart like this is the lay over in between and I get up there and I do my thing and then book gets up there and he tells his story about being a gangster and you know robbing him and his buddies robbing all these go fast food places and getting caught and doing time and just the way he talked to these guys

knocked me on my ass because I'm like wow book I go I didn't know He goes, I don't want anybody to know yet, but I'm going to want everybody to know. And he, you know, he says, when I get to a point where I write my book, and I never stole the soul. But see Booker T. And what he, first of all, does for reality wrestling, which is off the charts. And him and Charmel have been running that coming over 10 years now, I mean, and killing it. And they're grown. I mean, some of this, like, we just did L.A.

LFG, Legends and Future Greats, and that's a book show. And we got, you know, we got suspensive time. And he showed me one of the bloodline coming up. And Zoha, this kid, wow, he did a promo across the table, like a godfather type of thing. And they're shooting it with Apple TV, you know, iPodes. And the way they shot it. And he, yeah, you can get to me, but he has to go through the conference because he's got three guys.

He's got a fight for he gets the booker. Like, this kid is so over and books like, he won't be with me much longer. He's just a matter of time, right? And he is getting so seasoned. Like, what a great place to have that. So to see what book, and what he does is he, he helps young men, like, so much. and this is the give-back thing for him. He's been talking about it, and he talks about it, and then he does it.

Ultimate respect for that cat. How about you? Any booker stories? Not a specific story, just I've learned his story. I never knew his story behind the scenes. I'm always a talent guy in the ring. Always an upbeat guy to be. Always upbeat, yeah.

But I always loved about Booker Tee, but to hear his story. And where he's coming through, what he's been through, where he's at now. I'll reach down and gives it back to others. And once again, we talk about our experience, I have a lot of experience for you to encourage others. Right. He's doing that. But what he's been, where it's an addiction counseling, if you've been through addiction, they'll listen to you because you've been through it, drugs or alcohol and you'll come out to the other side.

So they'll tune in to you. If you go back to talk to young men who are struggling and have been incarcerated, they'll listen to him because he's been there. Yeah. They say, I can understand. So they'll be like this for other people, though, they'll listen. So he uses that experience. It probably was not the best time in his life.

Once again, no courage and help those young men. So it's pretty, pretty, he's a unique guy. I have massive respect for him. And the guy who he had cut down because Stevie was his, obviously his big brother, but he's like, you get out. You got him out for him. You'd be the best. You do this, you do that.

you'd be the best. I don't care what clean clothes, you do it the best. And then the guy that they were working for is the guy who sent them, because, you know, they didn't have any money, but he paid for the money to pay it forward so he

could go and go to wrestling school. And it wasn't much longer out of that when you gave him a developmental deal and started the same thing like you did with Kidman and what a run. Two Hall of Famers.

Booker a double. It was so funny. I was watching L.O.K. the other night, and Bubba said to Booker, Booker, is it important for you to have to wear both your Hall of Fame rings? And he said, absolutely. Super Dave, we got another one here. Gareth Jones, wants us enough.

Fantastic to see three Hall of Famers together. Well-deserved and great chat. Lex DDP, were your favorite superstars to work with in both WWE and WCW. That was a form of question. Who were your favorite people to work with at WWF or WCD? That's such a difficult question. I had the privilege with almost every top guy in my era. And there's guys that wrestled more like obviously Nage and rather than working with Stang.

We usually work side by side a lot. But, man, I've wrestled with a guy who special to me was when it really took a time to be a real teacher with me in the ring. Guys always kind of led me around through the ring. Ricky, the Dragon Steamboat in the ring. I worked like a long time. Now it would be almost about a six to nine month program with him. Right.

He started out. He did all the house shows. We ran a lot of house shows back then. Yeah. He called the whole match. And we'd go over that for it. He's telling me why I called that there? Wow, that's a gift.

At the beginning, how we got things started right, then how we set the heat, how we maintained the heat, how we came out of heat into a comeback. He explained all that to me with him calling it. Then he said, okay, I'm going to let you, about three months. He said, I'm going to let you call the beginning of the match. He's like, wow, great you see him, just let me call it. You're ready for it.

So I'd call it to begin a match. Then he'd go back and lock him afterwards and tell me what I did right or wrong and what I called and why. And then he, uh, then found him at the point where he said, I'm going to let you call the beginning of the match and the heat. I said, wow. it's kind of like and go over the heat with me

but when you when you when you did that big big move on me then then pick me up and slam me

because it made no sense let the big move sell itself and cover me there don't go up the big move with something less and then cover me he went over all that psychology

and he went over that so the lost art we got to the final paper view to him and I and was in Baltimore and I forget and Ricky Thranstrands

you because he was like He goes, hey, Lex, I go, yeah, I go, he goes, you're going to call the whole match tonight. I go, no way, Ricky. The big pay-per-view, he goes, you're ready. That's the trouble. I go, you're going to let me call your Ricky Dragon's comeback because you're going to call the whole thing,

including my comeback. Man, I had him slamming me off the top. And I got to say him and flirted it. I was bouncing all over the ring. I was, I mean, but he taught me the psychology. So after that, whoever I worked with, the top guy who finally could call a match, have it makes some sense.

never was the greatest interviewer of working business Ricky took the time to really give me some basics that gave me confidence that unless I worked with a really experienced guy I was kind of lost in that so Ricky took the time to really teach me so he was very special He gave you a heck of a gift

and a lot of people wouldn't do there are people that would intentionally set you down the wrong kind of path to see you fail because that's how the business can be We talk about passion I see Ricky now a lot of conventions. We do the legends deal with WW and signs.

I'll see him if you have a young guy at the table or something, show him how to do proper holes and sell. I mean, Ricky has a passion for teaching. Was he ever a heel? I don't think he was.

Was he? I mean, he may be the only one who was a baby face his entire career. And I think one of the best. His ex-wife was a heel. I know that for sure. Amazing.

Amazing guy. I'm teaching. He's a real passion thing. For me, of course, Savage would be the one. He's one of my favorites, yeah. Savage for you? But I loved working with Raven and Canyon and, you know. They're driving crazy, the match, but way up and down before.

No, because I did it all, too. You know that. You should have watched these two together. It was like, it's a death of ours. Overroar his. His. I thought so. You know what, don't you trust him.

You know, one of the, one of my favorite moments. So give the audience, the only context that is we normally, in our era, a lot was called extemporaneously in the ring, reading the crowd. And when a guy came to you with a list of the match move from, you're like, are you kidding me? So, yeah, you guys were, now a lot of that, it's a lot of it's that one of an anomaly. Yes, now a lot of the guys were. We have a few to the damn year, bro. We had an hell of run. You know, but, you know, when you look at like Stinger, I will remember the first time.

I'm working with him, and I'm, you know, it's 96. I remember because someone just sent me in a video, talked about it a while ago, but January 24th of 1996. And I walked in and said, so what do you want to do? He goes, what do you want to do? He said, what do I want to do?

He goes, yeah, you put it together. And that was the first time that I frigging had a little standing ovation when I came through the curtain. and Michael E.S. Hayes, who lapped his ass off, but I told him I was going to be a wrestler. Next day, I was, ran home. When I got home, I would go to the gym, go to Doc West, go get deep muscle massage, get tan, and be home by 7.30.

And I forgot something, so I was running home, running out the door. And as I'm here to machine, go out, I'll go to the machine. They're five Hey yes So I ran to the phone Grab the phone Hey Michael What's uproes

God damn I go What's the matter What's the matter What's the matter You know how sometimes You know You want to

Leave a message In the middle of the day For somebody I said Yeah he goes I go You want me to hang up So you can call back

And leave a message No fuck it You're on You're on a damn thing It was Hey Saw your match last time You all did

Great job. Clicked. Superday, what do we got? Chris Lynch, Dallas. I grew up in town over for Tom's River, New Jersey, helping people the way you do takes toughness. Growing up in New Jersey help mold that fighter mentality in you. Thanks for all you do.

And congrats, Lex. Well, thank you, Jersey boy. You know, Jersey people are, pretty hard-headed. We take a lot of shit. Gritty, man. You're great. You know, being down the street from New York where they think Jersey's a joke. And bottom line is, I don't know,

if I get something on my mind, if I get something I'm going to do it. The Winston Churchill never, never quit this famous quote. Yeah. Gritty, man. Keep moving forward. What do we got? AOTV productions again. Hey, guys. Who do you think should be in the Hall of Fame that isn't already, and that's always such a tough way?

Bam Bam Bigelow, for starters. There you go. There you go. We got time for one or two more. So let's, Dan Norton, DDP Yoga changed my life, especially last year with positively unstoppable challenge. Will we get to see Dallas bring Eric through the DDPY gauntlet? What's the gauntlet? I'll explain it.

Yes. And I'll answer the question. The gauntlet is you start off with a cold. Well, first we have a conversation. Oh, the cold plums, the oxygen training, and the... Oh, my God. Then we had a power coach. We were running so late, you will see most of it.

We didn't get DDP yoga in because we were both pretty blown up by the time. Because it was so late at night because my communication on my end. But yes, you will definitely see. He really grabbed the whole of the power cup. Yeah, I'll explain. So we filmed it. yesterday and definitely going to you know page is going to going to put it up on his site or whatever and we did film the go on the thing i asked him to hold off until may

because of may 27th i turned 70 and about a year ago i made a commitment to kind of expose myself so to speak and really change my body composition i got really serious i know i was like wow Eric i didn't see you a person i saw you like the neck and shoulders up on your podcast yeah what a transformation incredible yeah it's just been amazing by the way yeah especially coming from you but it's just diet and just making a commitment to go to the gym and quit drinking huge you know i'll have a glass of wine here it's not you know you know you're staining for life i mean you look i mean you look so incredible but on may 27th i'm going to because you'll never you have never seen a picture of me with my shirt off. Neither one of you. I would put a million dollars

of cash on a table if I had it. I put a million dollars of cash in a table and say it's yours and you could find one person picture of me with my shirt off other than inside the wrestling right. That doesn't come because I did wrestle as a business and had my shirt off. But that would have a long time ago. And there's a reason for that. There's a reason there's not a lot of pictures of me with my shirt on. But I thought, you know what, I'm going to quit being what's the word overly self-aware and afraid

because I'm vain I've still got some pride and you know I said yeah when I'm May 27th on my 70th birthday I'm going to do it on availing and it won't be much

to me it will be so we're going to hold off on showing it until after May 27th because I got 10 that's a drip that's a good drip I got 10 more pounds to go before we go all the way. Yeah, that's great.

Super Dave, what do we got? Ant Mauricio, you guys look great. Lex, congrats on your Hall of Fame. Thank you. Any memories insight from the runs as team package with Flair or totally buffed with Bagwell? Well, just working with Rick, obviously, one of the best ever in the ring, out of the ring. Now, he had a quality, Rick always had a quality of not only being a huge star, but also a star maker. The way he worked with guys.

He always brought out the best to me, brought the best in Sting a year or so many guys. So working with Rick was always special. I just, I had a great time with Bub. We were good personal friends outside of him, we still are. And Buff and I had a great time working together. We travel on the road together quite a bit. So. Both make it cold.

Mark's a fun guy. Mark is a great storyteller. So I really enjoyed my time working with Marcus as well, for sure. By the way, I had a little bite of this just a few moments ago. Where is the camera? I keep looking around for the camera. I had a couple bites of this. So here's what we're going to do, folks.

This stuff is awesome. I had some of it last night for dinner. This is grass-fed, grass-finished, no flavoring. There's a small little company. It's the same company, I think it is. They've struggled with regulations and all kinds of people trying to put them out of business because of the processing and what they don't do. So, yeah, check them out, look it up. It's absolutely delicious product that I've fallen in the bag.

And it's got a good flavor. It's unbelievable, yeah. It's not dry and it's flavorless. It's a lot. All right. Enough shilling. One more. Scott Cobb.

Kobe or Cobb. DDP always mentioned Dusty Rose, but what is the best advice Dusty gave you and how proud are you of Cody? Ridiculously. You talk for three hours about that. Yeah. Ridiculously.

I'm proud of him. More than anything, he and I was sharing stories about it when he left WWE. Like, it takes guts and balls to literally walk away, which I don't know how much money he was making then but I bet it's about a half a million bucks and you say no you know what I want my release because I

see myself here you see me here and I've got to go on this journey and damn that was so dusty so dusty so dusty and you know he that's

that's it comes from his daddy's lion as he would say you know so yeah I'm super proud And there's so many moments where, you know, being there, especially over the first WrestleMania, and I was there with him to do all that. And the second one, when it looks like Rock was coming in, and it was just one piece of advice, and he said it was the best piece of advice I ever told him. I said, all I can tell you right here is everything that has looked like,

Like, it was the worst thing to ever happen to me has turned out to be the best. And I said, if you can just breathe, don't not to breathe, breathe, and keep believing that. And, dude, I got a message from Rock. I'll play for your lyrics. It's pretty cool. I got three messages from Rock. It was one message, but it was a long one. Just, like, forgetting it, like seeing what they were doing.

I put it over like crazy. You know, because Rock is the biggest star in the fucking world. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? And he's one of us. Last night I was watching a show called, it's new on Apple, it's called Studio. And at one point, you know how there's L.A. people are and, oh, hold on, hold it. I got John Cine on the phone right now.

Hey, John. He was doing it, but he used John Cina's name. Batista, I just saw him in Showgirls. He killed it. I mean, these guys are on the box. And now it isn't back like when we came up and frigging we were looked down on, they're looking like, wow, these guys can do this, this, and that? Like, oh.

Big chops as far as being able to get me on camera. Yep. Yeah. Say to Z. Guys, I want to first of all thank all of you who watched this year today. I've been so looking forward to doing this interview because there's two guys that I love dearly. and have come to respect. And it's great to tell you a person how much of a lot of you.

I respect to your, it's quite the journey and the transition and pitch. You're an amazing human being. You're an amazing human being. Proud to know you. And what a great thing you've done here with Steve and the rest of your team. You've done such a great job. You're helping a lot of people. You're giving professional wrestling a good name.

That's a hell of a hard thing to do sometimes. So congratulations. Thank all of you. We're going to wrap it up. here and see you next time. 883 weeks.com. See it. All right.

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