83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff - Episode 426: 83 Weeks After Hours

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

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Today's episode comes to you from the Blue Chew Studio right now. When you buy two months of Blue Chew Gold, you get the third for free with promo code 83 weeks at bluechew.com. Hey, hey, it's Conrad the Mortgage Guy. And you're listening to 83 weeks with Eric Fischoff. And I hope you're doing well. Eric is traveling this week. So I thought, you know what, let me dig up something that we've never released publicly. five years ago, me and a few friends traveled during the pandemic down to Jacksonville.

Take a look at AEW Revolution up close and personal. And I thought, you know what, wouldn't it be fun if we could sort of recreate the Legends house? Remember that show with WW Network first launched like, gosh, over 12 years ago now? Well, I thought, you know what? On ad-freeshows.com, we got a few legends. What would happen if I put Tony Chivani, Jim Ross, and Eric Bischoff at the same table talking about wrestling. What if I maybe or maybe not,

give him a little bit of alcohol to see what would happen? How would that conversation sound? We're about to find out. This is a candid conversation that was recording with a few libations five years ago in 2021 on the outskirts of Jacksonville, Florida.

It's Eric Mischoff, our fearless leader, with Tony Chivani, the voice of AEW and the voice of wrestling, Jim Ross, on a very special. edition of 83 weeks let's take a listen hey it's goddrey thompson and open to asprayshows.com of course we've got an interesting set up today we're all here on location in florida we're in fucking zimbabwe surrounded by thunderbroke mysterious noises and it's only two hours to get here from jacksondale and we're in jacksonville almost go there's donnie oh now we're

having great time yeah say son and i don't know we're close amelia amelia everybody that one. Okay. Hey, and Eric Vischoff's here too. Hey, hey. What's off? So, Jerry, what's on your mind? I'm going to look at nice plate for you guys, not for nice Airbnb. I'm going to look at it real closely because I'll never be fucking back. Well, it's kind of fun that you, uh, you start us that way because you're back somewhere that you probably never thought you would be back on Turner. And I want to talk a little bit about the Turner experience and the different leadership and I guess we're

starting with you Jim we grew up in the territory business and this is a whole new ball game you're not promoting wrestling the way you normally would this is now a TV company instead of a traditional wrestling promoter what were the biggest challenges do you think that were different from the territory days and that's set up

I think this is getting used to corporate structure but that's worth I don't know we were kind of loosely managed that's another Our infrastructure was not extremely strong. So there was a lot of dogs chasing tails. Right, Tony?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Jim Barnettles chased a lot of tail. Yeah. Oh, my boy. Tand is just a great air, right yet. No, it was, it was, and I remember, you know, spending the one year of events in the WWE, and I came back, and I thought, oh, my shit, this place is out of control.

I mean, I was miserable. But Jim heard, that's the way he ran things, you know. I always said he managed by chaos. You know, he liked to cross-rich and he liked to argue with people and get them mad at each other. I know Flair knows about that more than anybody else. No, I didn't like to do that. I think that's why he hired you, right? No shit, right?

Yeah, like I come in, I needed the job really bad. Yeah, I mean, I've gone on a while about a paycheck working for work. I was so excited. And when it became obvious, he was actually going to offer you the job. He ended it with, and now look at him, I want you to know. Bring any win here. Basically, like Jim Ross and Toree Chabani and Mishabon. No offense, guys, I didn't know either one.

Yeah. I'd give him the buck. I'd have left you in the backseat of a fucking car if he would ask me to do. But because I need the money that bad. But it was an odd thing to say. Yeah. I'm bringing you in to me. somebody on some copy it.

So I get that, but you see. That's the way he did. As a matter of fact, he asked me when you had, you'd come in to work on NWA pro, I think. Was that your first show?

Do you do the NWA. WCWA. Pro? Yeah, I'm sorry, WCWCWCW. And he asked me, how did Eric look, sound?

I said, great. It's tremendous. I walked out and he went, good. And I heard him cock on thinking, that's a soft motherfucker. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, that's the way he operated. It really did. Those were challenging the first couple of years. I mean, they really were. Yeah. You had to be things many times before it was ever made air.

Yeah. Or it was minds or changed like water running. And then the idea was to make this booking committee, which is a brick cartoon in Zill. Yeah. The booking committee in WCW could be a sitcom. or a horror movie or all will go in 30 minutes 28 minutes of program or so before i got there i think i got there in 91 yeah yeah who was the booker was it dusty was it was it was only it was

only was there first when i got there was only only was there for a while and he was there for a while Dusty got there right before you arrived. Okay. Yeah. Because Oli was out of picture. Yeah. Oli was there. When I was there and I returned to 89, Oli was the Booker.

Now, Jim, before that, I think I had George Scott to a little run there. George Scott was the booker for a while. It got fired because he told the announcers, which, man, who or wherever else? That one time did not mention that the class is going to be in New Orleans. There was the second match of player at Steamboat Trail was right. because you didn't want to hurt the TV rate. They killed ticket sales.

And so somehow I know they probably had a meeting and then all of a sudden George's death was cleaned off. Yeah, he was gone. Then Oly took over and then Dusty came in. Right at the beginning of 91 it came in. And the reason I remember that is that they were sending us out to do a episode of Family Feud. And I was on the, I was riding with Kevin Seller. and Hurd had said he said,

I want to get this to you before you leave, and he hand me these sheets of paper that had been faxed in, the old tiny facts, and I recognized Dusty's handwriting immediately to all those years. So I knew Justin was back as being the book for, so it was beginning of 1991 that Dusty came at. And like in mid-summer.

Right, right. They grew for females. Yeah, so it was, it was, yeah, I mean, they had a lot of them. It was better when Dusty was there for a while, but right, you had us. You knew who had. had the booking sheets, you know, who had the TV,

who had the work, the work you're going to do was provided by him, formats. And before that, only would write a Saturday night show, then he would, as Van Along, the sweat race, would decide to leave and tell Tony and I, if you guys want to show on Sunday night, you better write it as I thought. Now, he'd leave. They would leave. They would leave. In the Gem and I over the weekend,

or even during the week, uh, would, uh, do it at your apartment. I mean, you like, yeah? I spent a lot of time up there putting that show together. I don't think it was the only show we put together. It wasn't. I mean, we had a recat show on like a Saturday morning or something.

We barred. Barren, he just, there wasn't that much much original, uh, programming on our shows. It's all repeat shit, but more, more often or not, except the case of Bargerman's who takes just for that show. So what did the booking committee happen? So it was Oli and then Dusty and then was there a committee that followed Dusty? I think so.

I think the booking committee does she was part of the booking committee once I went Yeah. You'll put that in early Yeah, right? It would have been

80. It would have been 89. Yeah. When, when Hurt started before then, it was just Dustin and Jivings

or Dustin. Obviously, and then George Stott. Remember George Scott's first? I tell the story a lot. George Scott's first production news. We're all in TBS

that I've called like one of those great moments. We're all together. This is the great George Stub who, you know, book for Vince and who

Cobb the character and Rockets and we're all around and he's at the head of one table at the head of the table and in the first of the head of the table

and George sits down with the, with the sheets and he goes, but she time looks around and he picks him up again. And I mean, the herd is looking at Barnack

because Barnett on the man and then George said, oh, am I supposed to run this meeting? There's the new Booker boy. Yeah. And I mean, you could tell. I mean, I could tell.

And then if I left and I'm on right after that meeting or after a few weeks following, I could tell right now I wouldn't go to last long as old school because the product had changed. Yeah. There's so many layers, so many stops in the bus to get to your destination. It's got to get more wordy, more sluggish. And then all of a sudden, as everybody here, this work. like three of us, they became more cooks in the kitchen or more souschets. Or I can make dessert, you know, ideal.

So it would just be a lot of help. But it was one of those classic things you knew it was going to happen when you put active performers in the booking commit. They wrote their own script. They skipped themselves with sparring roles. They took care of their position on the car. Their position on the car and their position on the car. I don't know if we do that. anybody that's a charge of the company would never put themselves into a story like

else served me. I'm done for 50 years. Yeah. You know, forever. Man, I got to be honest with you. In more recent years,

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Please support our show and tell them we sent you. Has it changed down to this. There you know, anything worse, putting your kids in a story. That's actually, yeah. I've done that too. Oh, really, seriously, that really works, does it? The kid is in the, it rarely works. It's so funny kids.

It's one of the reasons why when Derek Hageoine, which was actually, I shouldn't have been surprised, but it was when I was in teenage. Yeah, I'm really want to get into the business. The first time you got to send that. There's been a lot of the businesses all the way. Yeah, he's a little kid. Wahoo McGahnow stayed in his first rustling bump.

dropped him on his head, and it was four. He was fucking round of the office. Why don't he picks him up by his ankle, holds him up in shakes and hear, and clapping like, what he did on the end? Well, who dropped? He didn't know what he came to me. He said, yeah, I really want to Russell. He said, no, why would you want to do that?

Because my perspective of business was different than his perspective. Yeah. It will be very rarely worse. Because you've got kids going to live up with their father's bail. If you're lucky enough, proportion enough to have enough influence in the business, get your family into the business. It's actually a burden of that. Sure.

They're going to work a little extra hard to overcome the push. And people will work harder against them. Some people are. Oh, because people don't give a pass because. Not being able to. I've got most people, consciously or self-conscious, people will be working against you. Yeah. I agree.

Human nature. Tony talked a little bit about leaving earlier. Why did you leave her? Philips. Okay. I left her because. Tell the truth. No, Phyllis.

She got my hand to line your ass off in these high-level interviews. This motherfucker is 60-minute-free high material. Okay. Tell the truth. I, I, uh, completely. I didn't want to work with Jim Rupert. I did. I really didn't.

I just, I had to, I tell the famous meeting that Jim and I were in a meeting with Jack Petrick and then Jim Rurred. We both had been working. He worked for the Dallas office. I worked at the Charlotte office. And we sat down that meeting and Jim Hurd started the meeting and then one guy talked. And it was in the whole fucking meeting. And I'm sitting there thinking, should I stand up for myself?

No. I didn't sit right down there. And he was going on about how he would tell them. He was telling Patrick how important announcers were. Can't get over without us. You know, we've got to have the storyline. Got to have the soundtrack. And so, I mean, I walked in her dogs right up.

And he offered me a six-figure contract because of his negotiation. So that was one of the things. And I just, I just didn't like her. He was combative. You know, again, as we found out. He was angry. He was angry. And then JJ called me one night.

He said, Vince is interested in you. I said, okay, listen. And he offered me like $45,000 and more. So I did it. And, uh, me, my name. Well, he spent on the first week he bought groceries that five years. You're here in Connecticut. I needed a, uh,

I made a loan for that. But he was, and again, you know, I'm thinking, I'm really thinking because, I mean, I know I've done TVX, but I'm really thinking that if I go to the WWU is going to big time, the big time. And one of the first events I work was Madison Square Garden and it was sold out. And it would get an MSN and it was big time. That's a neat deal, man. Right, it is. You're a sports fan.

You've been watching ball games from there forever. Right. You know, them Knicks are good. Right. And at Willis Reed, or cats. And if you're a hockey guy, the Rangers always were brilliant, pretty much.

But it's the most interesting around the world. And if you're a wrestling guy, you saw all the pictures in the magazine of Bruno San Martino, and I can pull off, superstar Billy Grand, all that. Muhammad Ali. Yeah. That was a big deal for me.

And that's why I know there's a, there's a thought. And even I heard another person say about this, but the reason I left was because I thought Jim was getting more time to me. And that was not the case. Jim was doing two-hour show on TBS. I was doing a syndicate show. And that was, that was not the case about it. I remember the Bill Watts meetings and it was, they were brutal. The Bill Watson was brutal. Bill had that long ledger that yellow pad that he would watch WCW Saturday night. He would watch it and he would take notes.

Okay. And that he was set in there Monday morning, first thing with me and Magnum and Dusty and J.R. and DeFananen, who was our director to me, and it would be a two-hour just bitched J-R session about what he said. And Jimba sat right there and fucking take it. And I'm thinking... What I'm going to do, fight him?

No, but I mean, you were good. You always had a way to put this shit out of your mind. And I... Like this. And I remember thinking more times... I'm never thinking more times than one once. I'm so glad that he's not listening to me

and jessie do worldwide because we were way off the page more than you guys were you couldn't get off the page of office so um no i didn't leave because of because of any end my sake because i thought because we were both making a good living and we both you know it was and we were both working together on shows that that's not true at all i was working again a bit easier for us yeah than some of the partners that we had yeah who was your favorite partner at the time to work with besides jim at the time to work with yeah well i had had a chance work with Jessica a little bit, but I rotate it with a lot of people on worldwide. I rotated with Kevin Sullivan, Gorkyia Trich. Boy, well, with Del Luzel. They had Gordon Solian with me a couple times,

which I really, really enjoyed. I really enjoyed Dutchman-tale. You know, Dutch had a great sense of humor, and so I enjoyed working with him. But, you know, I did have a chance to work with Bob Cotto. even before then. We're not talking about the eternity. He's not a part of the turnerty. I know the exception of he did some stuff with you, but he was great. Yeah, he was great to work with, had a chance to work with him. So I have a lot of different partners.

They, they, I thought Gordon and I worked so well together. Gordon was a busy one. Yeah, he was. He could just, you know, he could just take any role and make, and just add his, you know, as Jim's always said, talking phrases or sound bites. So he had that sound bite. It was so meaningful. And his voice.

Yeah. So. Cut through everything. Right. Absolutely everything. The thing of the Gordon, we just had to make sure we manage to schedule well because he would find vodka.

Yes. In the strangest places, right. Like the Admiral's, not the Admiral's, supposed to call them, the Delta Sky Club, the Sky Club. Yeah. What was the, what was the, the British Republic,

that was in the colony? Around the second four. Yeah, yeah. I remember. I know. I was talking about it. I was right up across the way, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I used to sit in there when I'm going to eat those. You know, because my show is my Vios. I mean, right, it's just the point of the end of the day. So about five or six o'clock, I'd hit up there before I left. Gordon was open to that bar. Oh, yeah. You get some smoking a bar back there.

Yeah. Pull it out. Pull it out of a cigarette and drink his whiskey. He used to sneak to whiskey and he was, you know, he used to get extras from all the airlines. Oh, yeah. He always had a mom with him. We got him a gig and then the little Gordon Sully Commentaries. Mm-hmm.

we roll for him, but he could edit him or blow him up and do them himself, whatever he chose to do. He'd like working on somebody else's copy. He'd tweak it a little bit, but at least he didn't start with Mike Pace. So we had his schedule to start about three or four, five, enough time to knock out his piece, it's a three-minute piece, getting back to the airport, find home, get home for supper at Tampa. Well, then he goes so well. But Keith Minister calls him about four o'clock in the deck, and he says, you'd have come down here and see Gordy.

What's wrong with Gordy? Well, you'll see. And then I kind of had a pretty few clues. Gordy might be in the cups. So I went down there and he was drunk for a new to Brian man. So we got another room with the Omni. And someone else somebody else to go to bed

and get you upstairs. But you know you have more boo stash in his room. Yeah. He's got to still drink. But at least drink in your room and not be stumbling around out here, if you will. So the way we started that then is that from then on, we would fly Gordon up on the first flight out of Tampa. I would suggest around 7 o'clock departure, and he'll get straight, he'd go straight from the airport to the studio and read his copy.

Then we'd buy him lunch or even go have a cocktail to watch or hang around. Yeah. Generally, he's just saying home, but at least we've got the work done on time. Yeah. And he was sober. Right. Why's not so. Oh, that's sober.

where, well, you know, he'd have a little bloody mare. I know, he liked screwdrivers. We did, one time, we did a show in a two, two-hour Saturday night shows in Birmingham. And, you know, in Birmingham, they love drugs. Yes. And was Alabama redneck. So he, he, he didn't want to do it. Okay.

And I said, when Gordon, we're here, we got to do it. I don't think I can. I, you know, I'll, you know, my blood series. So I sent Neil Pruitt to the liquor store to get a big gallon jug of vodka and a brand new, those brand name, thermosys, you know, or some brand name, nice day. And like you'd have one in the silent and football game. And we made that full screwdriver support. And so we sat down and do the first show and I said, so we sat down to do the first show and I said, He got to have one of these.

No, I'm all right. He was hampered. He didn't have anything to drink. I said, please, just take one drink for me. Just humor my ass. Well, you know, he takes a little. Oh, that's my love you so bad. He drank some bitch of all that, got that sugar going,

you know, the arms juice sugar and the vodka. He was half the clam. And, of course, it started to deteriorate. He got middle of the second show. my own gunner best whore. But he was a classic guy at the hanged right. Great stories. Man, if there's one thing you know, Eric and Lori are taken seriously, it's their longevity.

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Yeah. So, Gordon was at Center State. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Well, that was cool. Yeah. Yeah, Bruno San Martino there.

Mm-hmm. Was he you all TV? Yeah. We had him on the, we had him on a start of Superbril. Yeah. I did an interview. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. It was good, though. I mean, it was, it was a different. It's kind of like last night with JJ, when we take this, right? Jay, it almost got. kind of a homecoming. Right. It was like really

before the WWI Hall of Fame was MCW's version of the Hall of that. I'm not sure in any way that had it been done before

really in the most of the legends for a TV show? No, I don't recall it, Mark, not on there. No, no, I don't. It never even here at WCW. I mean, it was Andre

and we brought in now Mandog, Bisham, or I remember he came in. Well, now what I think about this is before you arrived, like, 89, 90, remember we would have the Slamourri. Remember, a legend reunion? Yeah.

Remember, and they would bring them in for a pay-per-view show? When did that, sir? That had to start in 89. Or 90. Really? Yeah. I know, weren't you there for... No. We had to be there for Slam. I didn't think the Slambury started

for Locker in 93. Okay, maybe so. But there was, maybe, did you start the legendary union? I was there from the legendry. Okay. I was already there. All right. Right.

But we had that, every year at a legend reunion. For a couple of years. Our couple years. This we ran out of the legends and we got to do race you support. It's like there's only some good guys on the fucking list. Right. Who are we going to call next year?

Because I remember a host to one of those namborees with, with, uh, you and Justin did a commentary, I think. And me and Bruno did the host, you know, back and forth between matches.

And that's where I, But I remember the legends Renew Meade. Yeah, I think it was like many fruit. Sorry, the man, I think. Next time you're going to Paul and he didn't do is Brumno imitation. Okay, I don't want to be around Paul. Oh, yeah, do this.

Sky. Okay. Or, do you like Paul? No, he's okay. You like gift. Tony, so you got solid. Latee to him. J.S.

Everybody hands up here. He's dry. I don't. I dig it. Is your main person? Please, care. I said, me. First of me.

So, yeah, let's talk a little bit about who's after her. No Watts comes in. Where you, what? Kid Fry came in for a big. Right. That was a trip. Yeah, that was. I heard that then.

Her bag. Yeah, Pratt. Well, Jim, you could address this as well as I can. Me and Dusty and J.R. Would a lot of times go up in Dawsonville in the cabin, right? TV shows. I'll be Calvin and we'll do this or the cabin. But other than that,

every Friday. Yes. But it got outside the office all day. All day. Yeah. And we got to eat the pooler. The pool room for Bill Elliott, a red car driver while Bill and Dawsonville.

Right. Only asked them to make good cheese burgers that pool all. It's a good. Yeah. A lot of theater. That was the most stimulating part of Goddive variety. The cheeseburger. But he kept fry.

And I don't know how long you last. I don't know you may have the information how long he lasts. The boss of WCW was the boss. He. Six months. He had, he obviously did not like wrestling because he said, we got to do something with that Saturday night show. I remember he probably told all of this.

Why? Because it's just, it bores me. So he tried to turn the fucking thing into a talk show for me. The day leader is better than David Latterman than even matter than Arsenio. That's your damn wrong. Well, thank you very much, Mrs. documented and gentlemen for being here fans. They got an outstanding broadcast.

And remember you? Remember that it? Yeah. Horrible. Yeah. Your buddy that tied in. What was your thing? You know, you're, you know, your, it's daycaster. Right? Daycaster. Yeah. Play for the old gun reader. Yeah. He was the guest from. I remember that. Oh, my God.

We were doing anything to get somebody to come up at talk to gym. We had, we had a mood. We were. We were. Oh, yeah. We were. No. We're like it sounds. No.

That's not like it sounds. That's what I said. It's an horrible. It was horrible concept. Because we got Dave Casper up there. We got Randy Travis. Lee Singer from Alabama. Louis.

Yeah, lead singer of Alabama was up there. And I can't remember who else. We got Ricky Ratman probably came in there. We have Ben Rock. Ricky Rickon. It's not bad. You will. Yeah.

Morris Rockers. He was dating Jen and Jameson at the time. Well, then he probably... Well, the body of easy now. Oh, so. You got a lot of James' fans out here. Okay. They're all on a video.

So, anyway, they changed the thing into a talk show. And we would do an hour of Jim interviewing back and forth. You're a rest of you fan. Yes. What do you got, I remember that. I was at center stage. Yes, it was. He only did that in about two weeks, so.

And through the last one. I, of course, yeah, it wasn't in the last. All right. Fans center stage were like a bunch of fist. I mean, it was really horrible. Yeah. And they had. All right.

Yeah, I know. They had, they put it in the ring with three sides. And they weren't really roped. They were BBC, right? Yeah. And they had it. And he's on those stools. No-how on the stools.

Right. Cheesy. Yeah. And I remember probably better than he does, but I was sitting in the stand laughing at it. So you do it, Jim. Yeah. You do it. Good job.

Good job. Good job. Oh, boy. So then they had to put down the BBC, right? And then they had to put up ring ropes. So they waited to all this talk. Then they waited to Clondaggrilies crew were putting the rain ropes back on. That took on for them.

By the time we did shows, the fans were fucking pissed. Yeah. Yeah. I'm motivated. That was a terrible time. Yeah. They were, we're going to show you guys. We're going to be a tennis audience.

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This is one of one, and I wanted you to see why I felt that way. Here's a go for ad-freeshows.com, much like the interview with the three guys at the table you're seeing and hearing today, we did a series called title chase. and I talked about the history of this very belt. Let's take a look. Paul told the first WCW United States championship belt was in use from early spring 1991 through late November of 1995.

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WCW. Go check it out right now before it's too late. Register. Get started. It ends this Saturday. That's tomorrow at H.A.com. So did you find out how long he was there? Yeah,

I mean, he's got there for law. And then Bill Watson's in. Of course, he's been one of the more controversial figures in wrestling. What was your experience working with Bill? I love Bill. I've said this many times.

He was, he was combated in many ways. But he, was the first, maybe the only boss I work with who told me he said, you know, I know in years past, he'd like to get one of the resters put a hold on the announcements, right? I mean, that was going to be sex. Or yeah.

Yeah. But he would say, he's okay, if I'd ride your hand or turn your wrist or something, I'm putting pressure on it. And this is, he would explain to me why he would want me to say things, which I really appreciated. I mean, I really did. I thought it was, I thought, yeah, that's pretty cool. And, of course, you know, I started, you know, watching wrestling in the 70s.

And so I consider myself kind of old school. And I kind of like the old school stuff. A lot of these stuff didn't play. But again, we go back to the times on Mondays where you would just hammer Jim and hammered Dan Bachham. And then. What all my bosses hate? Why don't I still have a job, though? How does it work?

Mike? Another round? Quickly. Okay. But it was, to me, Bill Watts and I got to be good buddies. He came to our house for a party. And does that watch clubbing party you guys have? Oh.

What was your treating? No, I was in the wife's probably body, but I wish, I wish you ever a spot. Anyway, I kept close. Okay. So, you know, I had this limited interaction with Phil really. I was the C squad announced. and I was back to the police guys. Does he do with the bare self?

And I was doing syndication, international shows, and things like that. And I was pretty cool with that, you know? I was so very comfortable with me at C-Squilat. I was a good idea. I was really happy with that. I had no aspirations to do really anything more than it.

But I didn't really like you. To me, Bill is a vote. Not to me. You never did anything to me. I watched the way he treat with other people. And when I see a bigger guy like that, using his size or try to intimidate people through the course of business,

to me, that's like chicken shit, deep down inside, chicken shit. I just don't like folks. And that's the way he came off to. Whether he is or not, unless when people were talking down. No, I was talking to the guy. I wasn't playing. You're the biggest goddamn bow of this room. And he was threatening black also.

So that, that was, but that was just a depression. Because I never really got to work it. Right. So maybe I didn't see. I will tell you, most everything he said is true.

But his bark was much more often, the way it was than his bike. He just, he had great pride for the business. He's like a lot of those old guys. He was in that front of that line of that dude. He got out because he, He couldn't have a business group.

He wanted to be the old way. He wanted to be more fundamentally sound, more realistically based. Don't do anything. They're going to roll their eyes on. We give them enough that shit. They already know we're pro wrestling. Don't give me any more reason to turn a chance. And so, but he, and I told him this,

you forgot how to communicate with athletes and younger people, because you've not been around them a lot of fun. They dance to a different drum nowadays. And if it was that way then, which I believe it was, it's for today, it's even more content. Because these kids are coming from a whole different mindset, indoctrination, and duress them. And some of them are so influenced on what they've seen in the last 10 years.

They believe that's the way the business is. Yeah, it's been. Yeah, I can see that. So he, he, and one of the things he was always good, I was communicating, believe it or not. I'm not. And maybe that's some of that intimidation came to flood. but we kind of lost that

that the I know he said some marital problems which is we can talk about a lot of wrestlers in luck tonight or anybody else while they didn't make it

you see the cash decree they left the company one of the two Cs without fail and a woman will play a role or a significant other will play a role to some degree

more often than not oh yeah divorce let's talk about Bill White's leaving WCW for better it works. A lot of people associated you and him with two peas

in a pod and all the best pals. So I'm sure when that news comes out when you get the best palpins just make that up and reply to things in there your big black t-shirt. Day Silva, give me another drink. Oh my kidding.

Large is it. I don't know. Oh, you're out, though. I was, I was closely associated with a known fellow. And I was saying harvinger fugitive or something. Yeah, I was a, but that happened a lot. Anytime you have any type of positive relationship, even this much of one with the Booker,

your arm might have to be a heat. Right. It's in them. So, anyway, here you go. Thank you. So, with the end of the end of the, That's what comes out. Does he call will tell you?

Do you see it the memo? How do you find out that Bill's been fired? I found out the memo. And I don't know that we even called before we left town, maybe once. And then we didn't talk again for maybe a decade. Really? Yeah. Was he upset with you?

No. It's just like, you've got to move on. Yeah. That's part of the rest of them, too. It's a little underbelly of what we do that's not the most flattering, great. that we could conjure up. Relations shifts in quickly sometimes and rest of that. They could be, you could work somebody every day and random every day,

and all of a sudden you read without a dying, or you read about it to do something else. Oh, yeah, I think about it. Did you see what's leaving as a potential opportunity for you to move up? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I was ambitious and young and younger, and we're about to have my turn to bat. But, you know, this didn't work out.

So, yeah, I thought that might be an opportunity. Did you, what was that process like? Did you submit a resume or do you have to allow him? I made it was, I didn't submit a resume. I, I made a Bill Shaw. And I don't know that I filled any type of paperwork. He said, I think he said, I want to come over and want to talk to you about the, the job.

And, oh, yeah, he said, if you're interested, I said, I'm very, I'd let him know at some point in time that I'd have to be more involved in the latter deal organizational and so forth. Pride up and on. So I'd be up there too. I never had that job. But nonetheless, we met, we talked, and of course, nothing ever came with. It didn't work.

He didn't. He would have a big town on our work, I don't think. Bill Shaw, he told me that, and I remember this, I never forget this, because I won't, I quoted a lot. I want to be accurate. Donald Dutt. can announce for essence.

It takes no skill because Donald Duck can do what you do. And those to do what you do. You've been a hell of a Donald Duck back to. Wait a minute. Yeah. Bill Strauss said that a few. Absolutely.

Wow. When he was here. Imagine that. Yeah. He did. Well, I believe I can't imagine my guy in the washer dryer and my retrition out here. Come on now. The real reasonable that. No, no, no.

But, yeah, he was very disrespectful to the resting business. And he said, here's what you did. If I were you, he said, you're making a pretty good money. Thank you, sir. No, does everybody good. He said, you're making good money. I was. I was.

I was same room time. and help care in the world. He said, what should you get away for a week or two? And I feel he's advice and I did. I wanted to make by myself. And that's really an interesting trip. You come down to have what $50 to buy you.

Limo service all day. It was just an old Buick. He said come back and then around. And he said, I have him back on the air six weeks. I said, well, that's Eric's job. That's Eric works for me. What he told him? And I'm thinking, you know, I don't have a deal with an Eric and Bill Shaw's going to work.

I would work that fine. I don't want my positioning in this whole thing. I'm not in a real stable spot. You're cleaning and out for doing your thing. you took people where you want them. And the last thing I wouldn't want a car or you used has somebody force their way back into the equation. I get it.

And then the luckiest thing for me was, you know, Brucey following and Alboy and send Miss ones to talk to you. And it worked out for me financially. And, you know, it's challenging 26 years. But it's a lot. It was kind of dreams. It was twice six years. Oh, my God.

Yeah, absolutely. like that. You know what? That's a lifetime. Yeah. I know. But look, you, we all got our business. He had Byrne.

He was an alpha male, badass. Burd, I think Verne and Bill Watts were very similar people. I agree. Hey, y'all, and I'll tell you this, furthermore than that. I think Bill Watts got a lot of his tendencies of being a little bit of bully from Byrne. Not the bill, it wasn't a bully anyway, but Byrne was an ultimate ultimate ultimate

ultimate ultimate athlete. You know, he was a great football player for a shoot, the national champion wrestler for a shoot, Olympian, all these things. And a big college education in Minnesota, big school. So, you know,

Vern casts a big shadow to a lot of the boys that came from that world and watched it come from that world. Surely wrestled, they footballed OU and all that stuff, so he looked up to Burrne. I remember that, When Bill Walsp was higher, I was actually coming in. I was flying in from Minnesota, working two days away to fly home all that time.

And I was at the Omni Hotel. That's where I was supposed to do voiceovers. And Berger called me right after Bill of Ben and office. You're really going to like Bill. He put Bill over big time, yeah. I hear you're going to like. You said it's going to be tough on you. You bet you're going to like him.

Cool. That's right. That sounds like something that you would do. I mean, Byrne, I only was handled, I only was around Byrne a couple of times, but I mean, I couldn't decide them not really. Talk to me about when Bill leaves, maybe there was an opportunity for you to move up, too. What was that process like for you? Yeah. Bill Shaw had, I think, Keith Mitchell replied to the job. You'd apply for the job. And Bill Shaw and said, I've got resumes in from a couple of guys. I'm still waiting for yours. In my heart, I didn't want to do it because I never thought I could, I never had confidence being able to pull this company out of where it was. I never had the confidence I could do that as a business leader. So I didn't really want to do it.

That's a smart way of looking at it. Yeah. Because you can't manage the young very well. And I never had any management skills. And the flip side of that is, Eric, you and I talk a lot. And you and I talked about your plans. you had plans for this kind of thing. And I knew by talking to you that you were for the right man to the job.

We don't know. I mean, because you and I thought you said, here's what I think you should do. And here's what I think we should do. There were bleep money. We talked about that. And I knew that you had already come up with this big business.

So I really thought that he was the right man having the job. And I was, you know, I was making, I was doing okay. That would have worked for me. Right. If I hadn't got that job.

Right. And I'm still going to do some broadcasts. Mm-hmm. I was that perfect. Yeah. Really. I'm serious. Because my journey to WV getting there, I had no, he can imagine being the third or fourth

of the string announcer there. I was behind Lord Alps for God's saying. Yes, right. So I had no, I never thought of being managed that, right, like administration. Yeah. There was never the reason I went there. Right. The reason I went there is via Paul wrestling any somewhere down the road.

Sure. Sure. And then you became front office. Yeah. But anyway, facts. I knew that Eric was the right man for the job. I really was confident that. I don't know if you remember the night you got it,

you and me and Laurie and Lois went out to the minute and celebrated that. Where'd you go to Varsity? No, we put this little Mexican restaurant, which is not too far to sit there's taste, kind of a blue house on the house. Yeah. I think it's one that down since then. I like those Beach Pride Pies.

By the way, folks, Christmas they are. Send them to Jacksonville Beach. They'll get them here, promise. Varsity, Beach, Pride Pots. Thank you. So I think I celebrated you not as much, but I'd really celebrate you getting the job because I thought it was right. And then again... And you didn't want to work that hard.

Well, I would you. Be honest. Tony, be honest. God damn, I'm Conrad. Hear me? Be honest. This is my opinioning lure of lurk at you. Where was that?

I don't know. You're celebrating. I don't know. We're celebrating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're still ready to make the Mexican, Mexican,

our form. Okay, so we were celebrating in the way we talked about that. And I remember thinking, and I think I told you this, man, this job's going to change you, but he said, I'm just one of you. You don't have to say, but we had a good relationship. And I said, no, it's going to change. It's got to change.

You've got to change with a job. You've got to come into a different element right now. I remember saying that to you. But I really thought he was the right man. for the job back then. And the first job you got was not stole and charged the company. No, no, no.

This is technically in charge of whatever you saw in college. Graphics, lighting, right? Sound. No creative, right? Nothing to do it creative. I was just like, make sure the show hits the air. You're on your bunch of right as my job. Yeah.

Yeah. And then Bob Dew was a part of that. He was over a few. Bob Dew oversaw the all of the WCity business. Okay. Live events. paper view. And I reported

it was his long secretary saying but she was a she was a spitfire I still been in there a long time I think she had

she'd worked with Ted she'd she'd write a book or something Sunday but Bob Doob's curious

have been interesting yeah Kelly or sing like that Kelly Ann or something I don't know Bob

do I remember come down here for a meeting I think was where Kyle I don't. This is a mate here. It's fun.

Okay. I'm president's daughter. Remember worried? Yeah. He's all in Sarah Francis. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I brought a lot of dude down for meeting like the Disney MGMs at Exeter's whatever.

The meeting was like 8 o'clock in morning. It was a breakfast meeting or 330 rather it was. I think he went out playing golf the day before. Then he went out after playing golf. Oh, yeah. He was completely fucked up. And picked him up with his own health. And he came out that he had.

He was missing a sock in one foot. He had his shoes up. But he had one sock on. And he forgot the one on his raise it. Well, yeah. He comes staggered down in the hotel on his way. To meet me, he'd go into a meeting. Completely fucked up with a sock missing.

And then I'm not going to take him to this meeting. I'm going to tell if he got postponed. something that show up by myself. Oh, my God. He was, he was, you know, the great part is, Eric, what happened to Lori do? Lori, she had news. Yeah, she got out of the news. She hasn't gotten to a little, you know, she heard Charles with substance abuse.

Kind of be real, the largest part of her career, I think. But she turned in her off, you know. Good. You know, pulled the nose up and is doing a lot of really positive things. She was very good in reading news. Good. social, you know, kind of robbing the eagle. I thought of her.

Fish foot too rich. Oh, you're hotter. Yo. That was more, our donor grease. Oh, there's she is. So, wasn't Sharon's devil part of that?

They had to the, I always thought of us three people. She would have off of them. She did. What's? She kissed the holy in the mouth. Let's make you turn your kitchen somewhere else.

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I did it on me Big Bole Oh So So I know I said her name And you like Out of real

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She She was the the driving force behind the White Castle of Fear and before that the little person in the boat

I always heard a little man to boat was just a chorus I've heard of them no and you so but yeah and she wasn't talking with that she was with her own entertainment and she was with holy Steve Chamberlain

I don't remember Steve yeah I mean they just like they just We're making all the boys. She was always maneuver. She was always making movies. Maneuvering. She's sleeping all the way to the lake and slept in the bed with a holy phone.

She may have washed his nuts out. Rumerie and any window has it. But we can't confirm she kissed him on the mouth. I would like to thank our sponsor to Not Tegos. Pretty many Titos, ladies gentlemen. No break and dry. I'm not.

I've got a SWAT team coming to pick me up and they all land rover type of machine because we're the fucking channel

Conrad goes Jacksonville Airbnb here with this it's not near anything we're almost to Georgia we're a car we're going to Texas though

But we're near the beach. Oh, yeah, we're near the beach. That's the shuniest thing you want to get from a hotel person in Florida. Well, we got a room is almost beach. So what is it? Tree is trees. Oh, God. But those turn of years are fun, man.

Yeah. Hey, we had some good parties for it. Yeah. Those happy hours. All was yours running together for me at this station my people last whole life. I can't remember if you're at almost half the hour party for a night. He probably would. If you were there, you were.

Yeah. I know that. But if you were in the company at that time. But, man, those girls working in an office. Oh, you bang all this all. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, what was a part-time nun? The, uh,

the, uh, are you going to have to pick a spot. But we had so much job those happy out. So much fun that's happy. I appreciate it. You know, I had a I dated a sweet old gal again. I'm not going to say her name on this

with that bankers and brits. It was a national. Okay. I was not her. It's not Shania Twain. I've got to have been, I've got hooked and he's goddamn Sinai Twain.

music videos of Facebook. Good God, you feel like to watch. I got nothing to look. It doesn't matter anymore. It's 69. And so, nonetheless, I'm just good and every day and getting by, you know, it's fun. Yeah. This is fun.

What's that saying? What's I saying? I should not explain. Can I flee? I feel like a woman. I get that got-in song in my head, and I walk around. I got them plunder saying it, And how do you like a woman.

And how do you like a woman? What's the shenai? What's the shenai? And how do I get out on it? Hello, Connie's face is so red. It's red. Oh, my God. Okay, so.

And look at what. This is like. I did you're in charge, and then you put you in charge, right? Yeah. What happened was, you know, Bill Shaw was, you know, he was in charge. Bob Dude reported the bill, so and I. Yeah. And Baudu took cherry rubber, Bobby, you went.

Okay. Because Boundu did, you know, football. He used to sleep with the wheel. He left ready suit on that. Oh, you went from the baby. He went to some bitch. That's what that hot dog. It's not really good look.

And he could drink all my life. Yeah. And that was just when you're managing the arena. I mean, right? Damach for the arena is what you really look. That's that world. You're taking up managers and agents and entertaining and smoothing on coffee. The playing golf.

Yeah. That was his game. It's only thing he was fucking good at. It's really good golf. But we got into small situations where he was arguing for something to doshaw. I would argue against it. when one

that was that was the next one right Bob was wrong yeah that's kind of how it right it was in the year

well you did you know you missed it earlier I don't so did he officially was declared he had some

issues he drank he drank him oh fuck I mean he really did he was sad I don't

not saying to rub in his face but Bob dude was a really a nice guy he was and that does

PR power rolls, a flesh-in-a-flash thing, you're talking about? That was the way you get business. Yeah, nobody better, Bob do with that now. Let's go play around the golf, I'll take you to Augusta or wherever he'd because they could do it in the morning because their kids got. Yeah. So he was a unique dude, I promise you that, but I always enjoyed talking to him. He knew enough about the pro wrestling business to not overly embarrass himself when discussing it.

He knew when he didn't know. He didn't know. He didn't tag out. Let's talk about when you tagged out of NWCW. You sort of hinting around that you saw the rider and was on the wall. I went to that and did you think was because of Eric's direction. And how does you give notes? Me, leaving didn't have anything to do there.

Okay. And I'll be respect to Eric. Stayed right there and it's like, sure. I mean, he was good as thing. Yeah. And I had a chance to go to do my thing. Right. Is there an issue there?

No. So I think, I don't know who I told. Did I tell you? I was leaving. No, I think so, no. Okay. It was a very succinct. I thought my normal bill of fare conversation.

Boom, boom, boom. Thank you. See you later. And the irony of that, I really cut out smart of myself. I thought it at some time. I was just in a real, uh, greedy mood. that contract was guaranteed. Yeah.

So I didn't have to go do anything. Right. I can sit and I'd go back to Jamaica for two weeks. I forgot. Now, I can't remember for all safe. Those women are tall. In Jamaica? Oh, they're tall.

How much will $50 dollars get you? Many longer than you can last. All that taxi is what you got. Oh, they'll have a lot of trouble. Yeah, it was a little, yeah. Yeah. It was a little, too. I had a Beau Buick, 24-hour service driver, and he would be there.

The only thing about the limo, Buick, he parted a lot. Discussed it with the Jamaican dude. Yeah, okay. Well, they smoked so much wheat, though. Correct. He wouldn't believe. I was very much crunch. It was out of my hell.

We could put this on cable TV. It's okay, we were blowing all the resting numbers. This is entertaining. You've hit to divide it before earlier in the same show. This January show here tonight, you had an issue with a washer and dryer and a mini fridge. I didn't have a fucking mini fish on, Red. For the 19th time, I had a regular size, grown-up, refusory. I was a grown-up man.

Oh, mighty. And I had Washington Dreyer, Shazan. And they were moved by Turner from Texas to Atlanta. They told me, we're going to put them in storage while you say it, such as that hotel downtown. I don't know where it was one of it was. I said, okay. I didn't think anything more of it. And then as time went on, it was fought tickets.

I leave Atlanta to go to the 203 area code, and they can't find my Washington dryer and my goddamn refrigerator. Oh, dude. It's spent two years. How long is you leave that shit? Do you ever since the storage storage? You know what happens to that? You know what happens to that?

The donors are supposed to ask you know, I'm shipping it. I'm trying to buy a hundred shit for 14 cents on a dollar. So that was a deer fund. I never saw it again. And it was squirrel fool. Good shit, man. Oh, yeah, man. That's my bag.

That's it. There you go. Gee. What did you care that he were holding his appliance? To the first side of his mouth right now. Hey, when you do those one-in-shows, what we've all done. And we'll do again someday, God-willing, in the COVID-Syside, somewhat, you know,

it just makes for a better story. That fish out of my goddamn finances off. And it's... Oh, yeah, brother. Come on. Just say that, big man. It really, it's like...

And it gave Bruce an original idea if they want. I mean, the mirror will have it. So he uses my shit and Eric's shit to create new shit. Then he gets his little JR face to think of. here.

Who's fucking shitty out of the other thing? That'd be mine. Men are like to ponderosa here in the middle of goddamn Zimbabwe? Yes, sir. I feel like this would be the coming house that he'd be too exotic would rent to write his novel.

There'd be all kinds of salacious shit going on everywhere of men, women, and animals. But now, he's my uncle all, right? He's not. He's Texas. I'm going to get right.

Good God. Texas. A snap two on that one. Oh, yeah. I got that bad. I found him for it. Are you not doing John? Go home?

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Jim. Come on, man. You're the point. Man. You don't practice. Practice out, Alan. back this camera. Come on. He's the game. Does the gangers teach me here.

Suck it up. Probably not. Just play. You find out that we see them. You're going in the hand with Monday, daughter, Raw. What's your thoughts? Let's play. So what's her for? This is a abusive competition in a lot of ways.

Because there's so many things unsure you guys will agree that are out of our control. Any of our roles, at any of our stops along the way, they were completely out of our control who could not affect. And here's the next part of that deal. For me, here's what I had to deal with. And I still deal with. When I can't affect something I see that I know is wrong,

I don't handle it well. You get angry, you get frustrated, and I lose my goddamn patience, which is the shits. I don't need to do that anymore. It's not my call. So, but some of us are just wired that way. I know this is not going to work.

I know this is wrong. I can't fix it. I'm just going to stand back here in my thought, because I know that maybe I'll be standing here when the second thing is head on and pull up the lies in crisis. So that's kind of where I'm out on that deal, man. I just, I like what we're doing more often an arresting business.

I don't know. I mean, now you just didn't have any, just like in my situation, We just have to do what we can. It's not a decision. Not all the shows are going to be. It gets frustrating.

Yeah. I'm relatively sure that everybody watching this. Touched social media at some form or another. You're on Twitter, you're on Instagram, or you're involved in Facebook or whatever it made it. And we appreciate you in here. Because this is how we buy groceries. Tony's a lot of kids. He didn't talk about it.

That five kids, Lorry, twins, and the little Tony and Big Tonning Money Meadow. Come on. He traveled for 30 years. Look at it. He's a handsome bad shit. He looks like an elderly... What's that guy there, guys?

What's that Jan guy's name? Jan something. Jan something. Yeah. He's a wrong Jan guy. I've been so my convert soon. Well, I suppose that's almost young. It might be that.

Okay. So, yeah. You're the aging March. Yeah, the aging beach guy. Yeah, the aging beached. Thank you. So,

were we talking about you. You had to ever finish your story three hours ago. I went about Eric being the greatest manager in the world

and the day he got his job and he went to eat Mexican food. And he had corn, tortillas. Go, wait a spot.

Great recall for his age. What do you say? Go ahead. Tell me a little bit about Naktrail. You know, when you're probably getting in the prime time

squad. Yeah. And you've been to WSW for many years at that point yeah. You're not all the show.

Yeah. I, listen, I, I always thought and I really, you were pissed off, aren't you? No.

You were. Tell us, I was doing, I was doing so much that I really thought that I didn't need to do everything. And,

I never, I never got you. If there was any, No, there was not. There was none. And I was living, let me say, I don't know if you remember the snub, but I was excited

about the new show. And you and I had lunch at the Mall of America, maybe a day before, two days or whatever. And I think you said, I'll make it the numbers wrong. I think you said, I think there is like a possible high rating point between the two shows. And I

want to get the majority of that, you know, three to two or whatever. And then we were doing, we were alone by that, but I remember you saying that, and I remember being really excited about, about the new venture. I was much more excited about that than

to announce thunder. I mean, I think, I was, no one for all, no, I know it was a hot show, but thank you very much, Jim, very hot. Okay, so I was, I was excited about the show, and I don't think, uh,

didn't I do half the show, or did you do, when they expanded the two hours? Yeah. Splitting it up was really about my biggest concern was that if you had the matter in the office square, if you had the same announcements

at the end of the two hours that you had at the beginning of the two hours. I was just afraid of the audience we get fatigued from those voices. Right, right, right. So I felt like you said, it's one of the reasons I did the cruise waves. I wanted the show, although it was a two-hour show,

I wanted it to feel like two one-hour shows. Right. Different set of them. shift gears with the Lusa Liburnash, all the presentation, let that leave me with my mate of that. Because we came by the break between the hours with the theme music and announces on set.

It felt like a brand new shop around it, but it got tracked by Mielsen as a two-hour show. Okay. That was why he wanted to feel as seamless possible. And there actually beat the picture. Right. Yeah. So it was fun.

It was a formula that. Yeah. That really worked. And it was a, I thought the first nitro to me was very exciting. By being in the Mall of America that day. Les Luder walking in? Yep. That's some of us.

Yeah. You're tired, folks. Yeah. You traitor or whatever. I remember I don't know if it was you or somebody in Booking or whatever. Boy, I said, when I see some walking back in the offices at the Mall of America. And as we walked back in one of the offices, there's Lugar there. Holy shit.

Was he on time? Lugar. Yes. Lugar was there. He actually flew himself with him. I wouldn't even buy him in ticket. Not because I didn't want it to be in a WC. Yeah.

He wasn't five year old party today. I see. Depending that, brother. Enough of paying back. Eventually I did it out of war. Well, let's put a bowl on this. The time and a half pool is that after all these years, you guys are column wrestling with the FAT against.

And even Eric was on. I think, I think it's cool that. all of us are being able to get together. And I say this many times. I said this, you know, Jimmy Crockett recently passed away. Yeah. I was, I was very, very sad, and I was very mad at myself because I didn't stay up with people. That's just my character.

That's what I said earlier in the wrestling business. Yeah. We breathe that shit. Yeah. So, and so being able to see you on, you know, every other month basis, whatever, being able to see you every other week. No, really. It's great to be here.

You're not doing that probably for yes, of course. But is it a gift, though? Yeah. And I guess just because we're, you know, Giddy Golder, right? It's one of the gifts about Giddy Golders. You kind of appreciate you more. Yeah, of course you did. Slow down and think about it a little bit.

Right. Right. Right. But this is badass for me. I've known you guys. I have no many people in my life I've known for as long as I've known for as Correct. Yeah. And we, you know, went through our ups and down.

We went through our periods where we do stay in contact, but for every show, as a caran, who's kind of like to center of the fucking universe. Look at it. He's not a bunch of history, it's massive, his process,

or the, but a lot of this shit comes out of this. Yeah. This is the beginning of best. And we remember, they were all bad times, but I think we try to scoot around those and remember the boot times,

which I think is, what we've done. And so it's, it's great. I've, uh, you ready for this one? I called, I think I told you this yesterday. I called Oli Anderson on the phone the other day. And I told him, you know who you were? Yeah, we're barely. Okay. Not really. No, I don't know. Okay. Yeah, but he's slipping. And, uh, but he was the same old way Anderson. I mean, he cussed me out, you know. And, uh, what the fuck you want with me? I'm old. I'm married about. I'm saying, this is wonder. So, so, so I can connected with him. I did it connect with Jimmy Crockett right before he passed away. I got to talk to him.

Did you really? Yeah, I did. I had that conversation. You don't mind sharing. He was very weak. And I told him out much he and his family had been to make business. Because they started making business some of course. If there had been no Jimmy property, there would be no funny Shavani's voice. Right. For what that's, that's work a lot to me. Right. And I'm on the fans as well, but

he was a big, the thing about him and me, he always kept his work. He never lied to me. He never misrepresented the truth. If he couldn't tell me the whole story, you'd tell you, I can't tell you the whole story,

but this is what I know at this point, or what I could share, whatever. He was very honest and very, very, very sincere in that regard. So he was one of the better bosses, obviously, that I ever had. And I'm sorry that, you know, I had this crazy idea to sell Mid-South, UWF, the Crockett.

And I had a vision, but we all have our vision. And here we are. I said, if you can, you can put the, do some equity on the TV time on PBS with a few UWF guys,

get them over by winning every week. Just like you do everybody else. And you can build your own. You have two little leaves. Maybe one is a AAA, one is a major league, but they could have an all-star being there a year on pay-per-a. And you can make trades.

It gives you creative license to do unlimited things. And that's how I pitched the sale of Mid-South to JCP with Rob Barner and Jim at Crockett at Signature Air and Atlanta. That's where Rob Carter did. Yeah, he was the, he was no Charonica. Yeah. He had syndication and on the business side and so forth. He wasn't very good guy.

Yeah. And so we talked about that, those ideas and said, you know, maybe you have one standalone UWN pay for your year, maybe one. And then you guys have all the others if you decide to split in place. And then we got the big blow-up. Progressing guilt for blowups. Progressive guilt for Kleenexes and did the thing moment. And so long.

I said, oh, blue shoes, thank you. He's just going to push that out there. My eyes are over to my heart. And I say, blue cheese, thank you very much. For checking that light, wonderful. It's just pumping when you at the climax. Both fists, I just bombing. But anyway, it's good to reconnect with the Peps.

He defended that had him back. of the love's because we spend a lot of time together. And I don't do it. You're in time. Yes. I don't know. And I don't do it. I'm right.

Who do this? Yes, I die. They're talking again. Would you enjoy it again? Let me not. Love here. Love here. What about tomorrow with your place?

Yeah, that's fine. I need a goddamn hand. I will say in where we're going to do these things. I want to pack of lunch. Sure. And I don't know. Oh. You know it.

Being. is a strong consideration on travel issues for people my age. Yes. I'm in there with this gentleman from the Eastern European block. I thought I was traveling with Ivan Pusty. We have GPS here, a GPS here, and it would that. And we got lost. That's a big cop.

The drive from my condo to your, whatever the hell this is, prison. It was 53 minutes. It's up to pit without divorce. What would you have done this 53 minutes on? Oh, they ought to donate. Don't have to that.

I got a retreating season. Sure. Old dog's got a retreat. You had like five-month-showered last season. I got a, yeah. And on that note, I spend here some scholarships on Ampreciates.com. Let's see you next time. Hopefully there's more musen tell.

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