83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff - Wise Choices: The Greatest Celebrity In Wrestling

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

On this edition of Wise Choices, Eric questions Tony Khan's latest claim that Shaq is the "greatest" celebrity to ever enter the squared circle. He also has a couple of things to say about AEW's women...'s division and so much more. MANDO - Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo WRESTLEBIZ at https://shopmando.com/ ! #mandopod BLUECHEW - Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code WRESTLEBIZ at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s https://bluechew.com/, promo code WRESTLEBIZ to receive your first month FREE. SAVE WITH CONRAD - Stop throwing your money on rent! Get into a house with NO MONEY DOWN and roughly the same monthly payment at https://www.savewithconrad.com ADVERTISE WITH ERIC - If your business targets 25-54 year old men, there's no better place to advertise than right here with us on 83 Weeks. You've heard us do ads for some of the same companies for years...why? Because it works! And with our super targeted audience, there's very little waste. Go to https://www.podcastheat.com/advertise now and find out more about advertising with 83 Weeks. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCqQc7Pa1u4plPXq-d1pHqQ/join BECOME A 83 WEEK MEMBER NOW: https://www.youtube.com/@83weeks/membership Get all of your 83 Weeks merchandise at https://boxofgimmicks.com/collections/83-weeks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For the final trivia question, what is the largest mammal in the world? Sir in the orange, phone away, please? Um, my Kid a Smart Smoke alarm sent an alert through the ring app. See, the train monitoring agent is calling now. Hello? The Kid a Smart Smoke alarm sends real-time mobile alerts in the ring app. And with a subscription, emergency health can be requested even when you're not home. A compatible ring subscription is required for 24-7 smoke and carbon monoxide monitoring, sold separately. well hello everybody it's been a while since i've done wise choices i miss it i miss all of you
Starting point is 00:00:38 thank you so much for joining us we're going to have a bunch of questions here but uh you know like sometimes because the show doesn't really have a format right it just it's whatever i feel like talking about in any given moment i i try to position this show to answer the question whether or not a wise choice has been made whether it's a personal choice that we're we all make every single day or a choice in business or politics although i stay the fuck away from politics there's enough crazy going on in the world without me getting involved but for the most part i just kind of fly by the seed in my pants and i wait for something to inspire me something that i feel i don't know so passionate about that i can't contain my thoughts and my
Starting point is 00:01:26 emotions and my drive to articulate a reaction to something that caught my eye. Well, lucky for all of you. Somebody gave Tony Khan his phone back and evidently he started tweeting or perhaps some of these stories came from interviews that he had done. Nonetheless, two times in one day. I was relaxed. I got my work done early in the morning. Let's talking about yesterday. And I get my work all done. My back is starting to feel better. And by the way, thank all, oops, that's my wife, Mrs. B. I'll call her back.
Starting point is 00:02:06 My back has been feeling better. And thank you to all of you who have inquired and wished me well. Evidently, I had a vertebrae that had popped out of position while I was trying to unload a railroad tie. And it was stuck there. Buck or father wouldn't move. And it prevented me from moving. It was almost unbearable. But I got to pop back in.
Starting point is 00:02:27 The chiropractor took care of me. My chiropractor is cool as hell. He works on horses and dogs, too. I shit you not. He's a chiropractor for horses and dogs and people. He's an older guy. He's cool as shit. I called him day before yesterday because my back was bothering me so much.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I said, Doc, I barely get off the chair. I mean, it hurts so freaking bad. I never swearing for him because he's not that kind of guy. my hurt my back hurts so bad i can't get out of the chair it's taking my breath away what do i do he's on the phone i call him on a cell phone because we have that kind of relationship we're close and i hear chickens like roosters crowing like it's dawn it wasn't dawn it was two o'clock in the afternoon but these crazy fucking chickens had no idea what time it was because they're growing and roostering and doing all kinds of chicken shit that chickens do, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I don't know. But I just thought it was pretty cool that my chiropractor is this older guy that's, he's got 24 chickens. He's got a brand new border collie named Piper, which is the coolest little dog I've ever seen. Sorry, Nick. She's out there. She didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Absolutely cool dog. But I figured if this guy can work on horses, like 2,000 pound horses, you should be able to fix my shit, right? So I'm feeling good yesterday. I'm, you know, kind of relaxed. Mrs. B's out of town. She's visiting our grandson down in Florida. So I'm here flying solo.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So what is a guy that's, you know, hanging out on a beautiful afternoon whose back doesn't hurt anymore due on a Thursday afternoon? Just sits downtown, maybe he has a cold one or two relaxes. And I'm scrolling through my feed and Twitter. and I see Tony Kahn talking about Shaquille O'Neill. Now, I've worked with Shaquille O'Neal. I'm, I think, the first person had ever brought Shaquille O'Neal into a wrestling environment back in 1994. Never forget the time I was sitting in Shaquille O'Neal's house with Hulk Hogan and Jimmy Hard and a small
Starting point is 00:04:39 camera crew when the O.J. Simpson chase started, and we shut down everything, and I'm sitting in front of Shaquille O'Neill's television, big screen TV. Imagine that, right? It goes without saying, dumbass. But we're sitting in front of Shaquille on Neal's television, me and Hulk, Jimmy, and obviously, Shaquille, his dad was there as well. And he had, I don't know if they were friends or cousins or whatever, but there's three, four other guys around. And he had these two big-ass dogs, too. These dogs were fucking huge.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I don't know what they were, but they were huge. Go figure. Anyway, we're sitting there watching the O.J. Simpson chase. And I say all that, just to let you know that, you know, I'm a big fan of Shaquilla Neal. I think he's cool as hell. I think some of the stuff that he's done outside of basketball, I don't know, makes him feel just like a regular guy. You know, he's like a volunteer deputy sheriff that actually worked in streets. And he does a lot of good things.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So I'm a big fan of Shaquille O'Neal. I'm Super Dave. Can you pull this headline out? I think I saw this on Fightful. Yeah. Okay, so this is the first of two. It caught my eye. Shaq is the greatest celebrity wrestler of all time, Con said.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Backstage, I've never seen anyone come in and be more genuine. Spend more time working on the craft for months, as well as paying respect to the wrestlers. this is one of the biggest stars in the world. Well, I guess maybe, depending on how you want to define the biggest. But we're going to define best here in just a moment. But let me continue. This is one of the biggest stars in the world, and he came in to help us. He gave to the wrestling business in a way that was incredible,
Starting point is 00:06:33 and I'd be remiss not to mention that. Now, that's a very nice statement, by the way. The statement's fine, to a degree. Shaq is a great guy. As I mentioned, he is very down to earth. He doesn't have the holier-than-dile attitude that some celebrities, unfortunately, do to walk into any room with. He's a great guy. But, but before I continue, I want to do something here to kind of put all of this into context.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So the word best, because it's going to come up a lot this morning. It means different things to different people, maybe. I guess how you can interpret it, or maybe context is very important. But you've got to start somewhere, so I thought, let's just start with the actual definition of the word best. Let's clear that up. Because until we clear that up, none of the rest of the shit's going to make any sense. So, Miriam Webster, never met the man. Is it a man?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Is it a woman? It doesn't matter. Or is it two people, Miriam and Webster? I don't know. Whatever. It doesn't fucking matter. So I looked it up, and it is a superlative of good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:00 There's really three definitions here. Excelling all others. Okay? This is the one that caught my eye. most productive of good, offering or producing the greatest advantage, utility, or satisfaction. And number three, most largest. Okay. Largest, again, I see that.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But to come out and say that Shaquille O'Neal is the best. best celebrity wrestler of all time, is pretty fucking dumb. Unless, of course, you don't know anything about, I don't know, Bad Bunny, Logan Paul. And I know these are relatively new, right? These are new celebrities. Bad Bunny, one of the most popular celebrities on the face of the earth had a that probably only two or three people in AEW on the entire freaking roster would be capable of having in his first match.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Now, if we apply Miriam Webster's definition of the word best to Bad Bunny, for example, I think, excelling all others when it comes to his physical performance in the ring absolutely applies. most productive of good offering or producing the greatest advantage, utility, or satisfaction. Now, that's kind of broad in some respects, but if you think about bad bunny and what he produced for, what was the benefit to WWE? I don't know, tens of millions of followers that were all watching to see how their favorite musician was going to do in a WWE ring. That's a pretty big advantage. Perhaps changing the landscape of a perception
Starting point is 00:10:13 amongst advertisers and people in the entertainment industry who might not quite yet be on the WWE train or the professional wrestling chain. Certainly someone like Bad Bunny and the impact that he made, made WWE cool as fuck. Nobody's going to argue that. Nobody in their right mind would argue that. So I tend to think right off the bat, you know, I don't know if I had to pick the best.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And I'm not even getting into the people that I've had the opportunity to work with in the past. I'm going to kind of keep this as current as I can. I'm not going to mention guys like Dennis Rodman in the amount of revenue that Dennis Rodman created and branding that Dennis Rodman was responsible for in helping NWO, NWCW and Nitro becoming not just a popular wrestling show. but a pop culture fucking phenomenon. That would be Dennis Rodman. But I'm not even going to go there. And I'm not even going to mention Carl Malone.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Clearly one of the best athletes that ever stepped inside of a professional wrestling ring. I can't honestly say as much as I like and respect Carl Malone. His beautiful wife had a chance to visit them in their home in Salt Lake City. It was a wonderful time. Talk about a down-to-earth guy. Carl Malone drives semi-trucks for fun. He has a farm. He's a, this guy's as down to earth as down to earth can get.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I went to his house in Salt Lake City, Diamond Dallas Pages with me, and I'm walking through his house, and it's like being, I don't know if you guys have ever been to a bass pro shop, the big hunting and fishing, you know, megastores that they have around the country. You walk into his house, it's like walking through the lobby of a bass pro shop. And he's got animals and he's bags and trophies and fished and he got mounted that he caught.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I mean, just like walking through a wildlife museum, man. It's cool shit. Anyway, I'm not going to talk about Carl Malone. As great as he was and still is. I'm not even going to talk about him because that was a while ago. And I'm not going to mention guys like Kevin Green, you know, all pro linebackers, Super Bowl. I'm not going to make it because, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 00:12:25 let's try to keep this current. I don't want to sound like I'm putting myself over at all. So let's just kind of stay focused. And then we have, like I said, I used Shaquille O'Neal back in 1994. Nothing new here, folks. You didn't crack the egg. Egg was already cracked, Tony. So when I see Tony make these statements, it just makes me wonder why.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Why would you say such a thing when the entire audience, anybody that reads it, is going to probably react to different levels or different degrees, much like I did. which was what the fuck what are you talking about you lose credibility Tony every time you go so far trying to promote your company or put yourself over or your company over in any way should perform even in this sense when you're actually you know just saying kind words to shekeel and I was there by the way the night he came in and wrestled Cody so I was there firsthand I saw it I know what exactly would I was standing 60 feet away on the stage watching so i get why you did it tony but you make yourself look like a freaking idiot you make yourself
Starting point is 00:13:38 as to you begin to appear as delusional and this is and i mean this tony con appears to be as delusional as dave melzer there's neither one of these guys have their finger on a pulse of shit it's a weird image i don't think about it neither one of them have their finger on the pulse of anything. They are so outside of the core audience. And when Tony and or Dave say the stupid things they do to try to defend their positions and their perspectives
Starting point is 00:14:24 and promote their company, I say there, right? Fraudulent slip, I guess. Freudian slip, not a fraudulent, a Freudian slip. could be one of the same. But anyway, I digress. Tony kind of looks delusional when he says that stupid shit. It's a reflection of the brand because Tony has made himself the face of the company, which is a major mistake.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I talked about it four years ago. Four years ago, it was apparent to me that Chris Jericho was kind of big. When AEW first started, Chris Jericho was front and center, and I thought that was a smart move. I really did. But then gradually I could see more and more and more of Tony Con. And Tony Con has decidedly, intentionally become the face of AEW. And it's not a good look.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And every time he goes on social media or does an interview, I would say seven out of ten times, he says some of the dumbest shit that is a negative reflection from most. clear-thinking people. It's a negative reflection on AEW. The best celebrity, professional wrestler? Like I say, I don't know, bad money, Logan Paul, if anybody out there, and I challenge you to enlighten me, because sometimes I'm so convinced I'm right, only to find out, hmm, not really. I don't, I mean, it happens. My predictions are generally in the 97 to 98% plus category. So I'm pretty good on predictions. But sometimes I'll read a situation or form
Starting point is 00:16:07 an opinion about something and new information will come along and make me realize I was wrong and I made a mistake and I will freely admit it. I did it yesterday. Before I saw this best celebrity wrestler bullshit from Tony Kahn, I'm talking about diet because a lot of people reach out to me and want to know about the carnivore diet and fasting and some of the stuff that I'm really excited about doing for myself. They're looking for a little guidance on how to start or overcoming challenges, whatever. And I was on a role. I was on a nutrition role.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I wasn't even thinking about wrestling on social media. I'm just talking about health and diet and quality of food, helping farmers, all that kind of stuff, right? And this guy, and I feel so bad about it, but he texted me, he posted, I came here for the wrestling. but dot, dot, dot, dot, I'm staying for the nutrition conversation. Well, me being a little quick on a draw, I read the first part. I came here for the wrestling, but, and I jumped to the conclusion that this poor guy was just busted my balls because I wasn't talking about wrestling. I was talking about something else. And how did I respond?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Incorrectly. There's a hint. So he says, I came here for the wrestling, but, dot, dot, dot, dot, I didn't read the rest. And I fired back immediately because that's another flaw. It's another flaw in my game. Sometimes I don't think enough before I do or say something. I'm working on it, folks. My wife, make sure I'm working on that.
Starting point is 00:17:48 When I fire back, well, comma, then, dot, dot, dot, fuck off. and I didn't think anything more of it and then I see he posts again a response to that and he says hey man I think you misunderstood or misread because I'm really digging this information I felt so bad and I apologized I felt bad this morning when I woke up about that there's just a guy jumping in man
Starting point is 00:18:15 I'm busting his balls publicly anyway I am capable of making mistakes it doesn't happen often especially when I'm talking about wrestling. But I think I put the best celebrity wrestling thing to bed for the most part. And it's sure enough, I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking, hey, maybe I should just roast AEW and Tony Con over the stupid statements because that's some low-hanging fucking fruit people.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And I've, you know, Super Dave Silva, Conrad Thompson, Aunt Evans, who's on here with us, my Sherpa guidesman. We all know Super Dave what he does. Aunt Evans is kind of behind the scene like the Wizard of Fucking Oz over at YouTube, right? He knows how to make this stuff work, and he's here. But just as I'm getting ready to move on and put this thing to bed, another one pops up.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Another best from Tony Kahn. Now this one, this one popped up right before the show aired last night. So yours truly, because Mrs. B's not home, I immediately turned down on the television. went to TBS and I thought I'm going to check out Dynamite and see what this best women's division in the world is because if it's the best women's wrestling in the world I want to watch that because I dig it fun it's amazing to see how far so many women have come in professional wrestling and I'm here for it so I'm excited because Tony Kahn said
Starting point is 00:19:46 it's the best women's wrestling in the world nobody better that's a big statement, but hey, I'm tuning in. I want to check it out. And I did. Can we see that? Did you get that one, Super Dave? I think I sent that one to you yesterday. Just want to make sure I'm not quoting them wrong. You know what? I didn't, but I can have it ready in a second. All right. We'll pull that up. Just, just, I want to make sure that I'm not putting words in Tony's mouth, although from Tony Con's perspective, that would probably be a smart thing to do. Just saying. so yeah i sit back i got my new york strip grilled on my big green egg because i had the time and it just makes steak so good super davy you let me know when you have that because i'm just
Starting point is 00:20:33 filling time right now but i'm sitting down tv tray in front of me yep it's like a little kid got my tv tray for me i got my 12 ounce new york strip black angus age 28 days dry age not that wet age bullshit. Don't buy into wet aged. Red flag. Red flag. Anyway, sit down, I'm carving up. Dynamite opens up. I'm good. I see MJF in the ring with, I think it was Daniel Garcia. And I was excited about that
Starting point is 00:21:02 for a few minutes. And then eventually we got into, I think it was a six-person woman's tag. Well, I figured if they've got the best women's wrestling division in the world, and there are six women in the ring, surely at least, least one or two, maybe even three of them, represent the best women in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Superdave, let me know when you have that thing. So I'm with great anticipation, I'm watching. And what do I see? I kid you not. I looked up for my steak and I saw two or three of those six women shaking her tits. That was their thing. Like, wow, that's a high spot.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like if you're 12 or 14. years old you're loving it and then i but that's subjective you know let's hear no there whatever it's entertainment i don't judge i try not to judge i analyze numbers and results but i you know it's so subjective i try not to let my personal taste influence what i say and then i watch the body of the match and i don't mean to be hurtful because i respect every single person who chooses to make the commitment to become a professional wrestler because it is grueling difficult. And I'm not even talking about the training and what you need to learn to get there. But the business itself is so, so hard, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
Starting point is 00:22:41 the ability to have a family and keep it together because you're on a road all the time. Well, that used to be the case. Not if you're in AEW because you don't do house shows. All you do is TV, and 70% of the roster probably has only done one or two TVs all year. So it's not really a stress, a life stress or an AEW. But nonetheless, it's a big commitment. You spend so many years and the odds of being successful in professional wrestling. It's like the odds of waking up a morning and saying, you know what, I want to be a guitar player and I want to be in a rock and roll band.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And so, yeah, I want to be a rock superstar. Well, great. That's a great aspiration. But the odds of anyone getting to that level are so ridiculous. Russ Francis, the late Russ Francis, played with New England Patriots, San Francisco 49ers. You still live here in Cody. We're friends. He was also a private pilot.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So he had a lot of things in common. And his father was involved in a professional wrestling business. And actually, Ed Francis was a celebrity professional wrestler back in WWE. I don't know, Russell Media. I don't know what it was. two or three, four, whatever. But so, yeah, Russ and I had a lot of things in common. And Russ, I did a, actually, I did a podcast with him.
Starting point is 00:23:52 One of my first podcasts I did with Rush Francis. And we talked about the odds of a young kid playing midget football, you know, 8, 10, 9, 12 years old, whatever, whatever the leagues are. But for a young kid to make it through high school and into college, and to play in college, the percentage is like, I think he said, like three or four percent, very minimal.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And then to go from college to the pros, even more difficult. And the odds become almost incalculable at that point. It's so difficult. Well, I think wrestling is much the same way. So that's why I have a ton of respect for whether I like your performances, I don't like your performances, I like your style, I don't like your style.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Whether I like you or don't like you doesn't make a shit, I do respect the fact that you've chosen this for your line of work. That being said, these ladies were barely ready for prime time. They were awkward. Their timing was almost non-existent. Let's just say it was so bad it was obvious to be within the first couple, first minute of watching. psychology, if it was there, man, it went way over my head. Psychology, me, other than shaking your tits and that kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:25:21 what are you doing to get the audience engaged in your match, as opposed to just going through a series of moves? My point is I'm not here to criticize that match or certainly the women in it because it's not their fault. Dumbass Tony Kahn went out and said he's got the best women's wrestling in the world because now the wrestling audience is going to look for themselves and go, No, they're not. And it's just another, you know, I talked about it with WCW and the Who Killed WCW series.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It's death by a thousand cuts. And every time Tony Kahn opens his mouth or takes to social media, it's another cut. So we'll see. So that's it. That's my rant. Tony, quit trying to tell everybody you're the best, you're the shits. Your ratings are in the tank. And they have been.
Starting point is 00:26:08 All you need to go to Russell, Namme. go to Brandon Thurston, look it up. He posts a graph for crying out loud with a lot of different pretty little colors and you can see for yourself. This isn't my opinion. Numbers don't lie and liars can't use these numbers. These are the numbers.
Starting point is 00:26:23 This is whether or not the audience, the people that you're producing your show for, the network who pays you to produce a show to grow and build and sustain an audience are looking at your numbers. I don't know what they're thinking, but I'm looking at that graph, and it's so easy to see your numbers are deterioring. Your numbers are death by a thousand cuts. You're losing viewers all the time, and you have been consistently for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But let's say ratings aren't everything, because there's an argument for that. I'll accept that as an argument. But I think your attendance to your television shows should be, and they're worse than your ratings. in terms of deterioration. Whether you look at year over, year, week over, whatever, it's the shit. You're having a hard time, Tony, putting three or four thousand people into a venue for a live broadcast of your A show. We're all of your superstars.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Remember the best in the world, Tony? We're the best wrestle. The best wrestle, but they can't draw a crowd. Not making any money. They're making money. money from you, but you're not making money from any of them. And it's not even their fault. It's creative.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And it's a dumb shit you say that turns the audience against you. A couple years ago, I talked about goodwill and how important goodwill is. And Tony Kahn and AEW had all of the goodwill in the world, because back in 2019, WWE was stale as fuck. I was there. I saw it. I started at the end of July in 2019. So in October, where I watched the very first episode of AEW in a writer's room in Stanford, Connecticut, surrounded by my staff of writers.
Starting point is 00:28:23 We all watched the same thing, and every one of them was hopeful. We all felt the same way the audience felt, which was finally an alternative. Sure, some of the audience had lofty expectations and wanted to see a replay of the Monday Night War. And of course, Tony Kahn and his roster did a lot to feed into that. And I understand that. There's nothing wrong with that. You're trying to create anticipation and energy and get people committed to sampling your product. No issues at all with any of that going in. And we were all hopeful. But over time, what has happened because of the cheap shots at WWE and Tony Kahn and that little bitch Dave Meltzer, who always are whining and crying and mum.
Starting point is 00:29:06 because they're victims of being under assault. They're the ones that created it. You're creating the tribalism that you cry about. Like little bitches. Well, people say bad things about AEW. Well, wonder why. Come on. You know, when Conrad Thompson first came to me
Starting point is 00:29:34 and we started discussing the possibility of me doing a podcast, I was, eh, maybe, maybe not. I wasn't quite sure, but eventually we moved forward and I've not looked back. I've been having an absolute blast. I enjoy doing podcasts so much and doing the work we do on YouTube. It's been more rewarding than I ever would have expected. And one of the unique ways it's been rewarding is, as a successful podcast, oftentimes new companies or companies with new products will reach out to us and send us a sample.
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Starting point is 00:34:16 You can get it with this special code, Russell-Biz at shopmando.com. S-H-O-M-A-N-D-O. two free products of your choice you're going to thank me yes you will right out loud anyway let's take some questions i've said all i can say about tony con on a ewe for the day what i've got our our man on the polls um at evans uh put out a poll that said that's best celeb wrestler and here's what our folks had to say shack got four percent rodman got 18 percent logan paul got 69 percent and bad bunny got
Starting point is 00:35:07 eight percent well there you go seems like everybody's buzzed about this one but our but our good friend we have a statement over here by jacob waddell let me pop that up on the screen leaving out bad bunny and logan paul doesn't surprise me because tony con hates wwe but is he really really going to say Shaq over Andy Kaufman, his feud with Lawler is a major part of wrestling history. That's another really good point. I didn't even think of Andy. I was trying to, you know, keep this relatively current.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But you talk about an iconic moment and one that produced major benefits, by the way. The amount of publicity and media attention that that angle received, that storyline received was fucking incredible. Like, I think you get to, and again, again. And a lot of people didn't listen to this, weren't even around back then. But if you go back and read about that incident, it was groundbreaking. And it had everybody believing. They believed everything that was happening.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Thanks to, well, Jerry Lawler, obviously. But I give even a bigger tip of the hat to Andy Kaufman because Lawler was a pro. Luller knew how to stay in character. Lawler knew how to make people believe. Now, Andy Coffin was a comedian and an actor and certainly had to, the instincts to be a great performer, but to make it as believable, especially for a comic,
Starting point is 00:36:33 because comics make everything funny. Everything is a joke to a comic. It's a way their minds work. That's why they're good at their job, is looking for the humor and everything. So to take a comedian and thrust them into the angle that, that existed then with Ian Lawler, and to be able to pull it off and make it so believable,
Starting point is 00:36:54 was a massive, massive moment. Yeah, it didn't have perhaps a financial impact because wrestling itself wasn't as big at the time. But if you just look at the idea and the way mainstream media embraced it and how it found that gray area, right? Yeah, I know it's professional wrestling, but this part is real.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah, I know Jerry Lawler goes in there with Moondog Spot and whomever and, yeah, they have matches. That's fun to watch. And I love watching it. But this thing with Andy Caller, often, ooh, that's real. I wonder if someone's going to go to jail. I wonder if somebody's going to get sued.
Starting point is 00:37:29 These are types of questions people are asking each other. So tell me, Tony Con, what has Shaq contributed to the AEW that people will be talking about 40 years from now? Oh, I can have fun with that question. All right. Thanks you for that, man. Jacob, we know. We appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:37:47 More good stuff coming away here on Wise Choices. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for being a part of the show. I have a fucking blast doing it. I'm just now getting warmed up. That's the only hard thing about doing this show solo for me is when I sit down in front of this camera, I kind of have an idea of what I'm going to say and do, but for the most part, I'm winging it.
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Starting point is 00:38:23 But we got another one, Super Dave. Jake, from Windy City, why do you think Ted Turner never talked publicly about WCW, not just in his latest documentary, but over the years in other books or docs? We'd love to have heard how much wrestling meant to him. That's a really good question. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:43 we never went to Ted for a lot of his on-camera support. We used Ted a few times. We used him for Holcogan and Rick Flair, the signing event match that I believe Shaquille and Neil was a part of. We used Ted for that. Ted and Jane came to a television show of taping for WCW Saturday Lane.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So Ted was very willing to lend his brand to WCW because he genuinely liked it, wrestling. But we never asked him to do interviews and that type of thing. So I think a lot of that was on us, but also you have to realize Ted Turner was at that time, Turner Broadcasting is one of the most powerful media empires in the country, particularly on the cable side of things.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And Ted was a little busy, and that was running that company. And then you look at some of the things that Ted was doing outside of Turner Broadcasting, with his bison ranches, for example. At one point, Ted Turner was probably the largest individual landowner in the United States. I think he's probably conceded that to Bill Gates now. Ted Turner owned land still does all over the United States. And I think into Mexico and South America, where he raises bison. Because Ted believes that from a nutritional standpoint and environmental standpoint,
Starting point is 00:40:05 bison is a great product to raise. So he's got all that. And I think just, you know, WCW was probably as much as he may have loved it, wasn't the highest, most important thing on its things to do every day. So I'll take the responsibility for that. just because I never really asked him to. I'm sure he probably would have. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I appreciate that. What we got. Mr. Monster. Why can't AEWA make stars? The same reason they can't hold an audience. They don't know how to tell a story. You can't make a star without a story. Imagine that.
Starting point is 00:40:43 How simple is that? You cannot make a star unless there's a story for the star to excel on and become a star. they do not know how to tell stories. They don't have a basic concept of the structure of storytelling. They do wrestling storytelling. Fairly low-level stuff, not that complicated, but it doesn't matter either.
Starting point is 00:41:08 People don't, it doesn't resonate because it doesn't create emotion. In order to create a star, one will have to create an emotional response amongst the viewers. And the only emotional response that you get in the EEW is, this is awesome. And it's justified, according to Tony Kahn. This is awesome. Like fucking trained baby seals, begging for fish. And they're responding to some crazy bump,
Starting point is 00:41:42 some ridiculous combination of super athletic but fucking absolutely meaningless wrestling moves. I mean, it's, again, I don't apply a whole lot of logic to professional wrestling because, after all, it is professional wrestling, and I can be entertained without having it be logical. However, when you see some of the stuff that they're doing in AEW, that evidently gets them the award of being the best, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. It's just cool.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I mean, it's really impressive. You can do that, but it doesn't do anything at all in terms of creating emotions. So that's why, Mr. Monster, same reason their shows suck overall and they can't draw crowds and their ratings are going down and they can't create stars because they just don't know how. It's simple. Super Dave. Jake's channel and Haley's channel and Dad's Channel. Look at Jake.
Starting point is 00:42:47 What a cute kid. And I was just going to say I should not swear because this is Jake's and Haley's and Dad's channel. I don't know how Jake is or Haley. And if I say the wrong thing and I offend Dad, then Dad could end up in Wyoming coming here to kick my ass. I don't want that to happen. But then I see the question or the comment and it's love your honest ass assessment of AEW. All right, Jake. Haley and Dad, thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Keep a picture, by the way. I love that. Travis Medway. Travis is with us a lot, man. Travis is cool as shit. He had a friend. I was supposed to come over and watch WrestleMania, something that they had been doing for a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It was kind of like an annual reunion amongst these friends. And last year, Travis begged me to put some pressure on one of his buddies who just wouldn't make a commitment to come or be there, any eventually no-showed. And Travis was hot. He was hot. I don't know if he's gotten over it, but thanks for being here, Travis. Coming out of Flushing Meadows, punk and Brian faces, punk and Brian, the faces of AEW, it was impossible to fuck up, but they misused punk, send him on a punk appreciation, ovation to her rather than a story, and still paying for losing that momentum. Yeah, that was, I don't think there's ever been a situation
Starting point is 00:44:16 quite as fucked up is the AEW Punk story on so many different levels. And I was hard as hell on Punk when I first came in when he first came into AEW. I just didn't see it. And then unfortunately, I never worked with Punk. I didn't know Punk. But I'm watching and, you know, I'm listening to some of things punk was saying, which, let me just say, I had an issue with some of it. But I'm watching him in the rain.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I'm going, there's nothing here. I mean, yeah, he's, he's, He was kind of hot back in WWE, however many years ago. But I'm watching the crowd reaction. I'm just watching the matches. I'm just watching the ratings. And I'm thinking, well, this doesn't work. And then, of course, we saw all the political nonsense and all the heated confrontations
Starting point is 00:45:02 backstage and the War of Words back in all the silly horseshit that we're still seeing today because AEW needs to keep it alive. It's the only, it's the last remaining morsel of relevance they have is dating back to how badly they fucked up the deal with punk. So, yeah, it, they really did not use them correctly. I think they put punk in a position to fail clearly. And I'm sure that was, I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm guessing that that led to a lot of the,
Starting point is 00:45:33 a lot of the personal issues between punk and Tony and punk and everybody else on the roster. He was pretty outspoken about it. It was a mess. And they've not recovered, and they won't recover. There's no more big names to bring in that will move the needle. Don't believe me, Mercedes Monet. How's that going?
Starting point is 00:45:58 502,000 viewers in prime time last week. How's that going? Now, we'll see, you know, a little while. I didn't watch the whole show last night. I actually had a hard time watching Dynamite last night. I wanted to watch it, but it was so fucking bad. I just, I'm not going to do this to myself. I knew I wasn't going to do a review of the show.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So I tried, though. I really, really tried. Couldn't pull it off. But it'll be interesting to see what kind of rating comes in today. Since we don't know what it is, and it's Thursday in the ratings have come out, I'm going to predict that we'll be back up under, we'll be back to just a hair under 700 or a hair over 700
Starting point is 00:46:36 because they're getting their Big Bang Theory lead-in back. Without the Big Bang Leading Theory, when people only want to watch Dynamite, there's about 500,000 people. The rest of that audience comes kind of artificially from the Big Bang Theory audience hangover. That is the number of people that haven't gotten up and changed the channel or reach for the remote and change their channel until about five or seven or eight minutes into the show. They go, what the fuck are we watching? No, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Boom. They go. That's the real audience. So when you look at that first quarter hour, again, go to Russellomics. Brandon Thurston does a phenomenal job of trouble. tracking this stuff. He keeps his personal views out of it, keeps his politics out of it, keeps his agenda out of it. He just gives you the information and you do with it what you will, which is why I put the guy over so much. Anyway, when the quarter hours come out,
Starting point is 00:47:28 take out that first quarter hour, just throw it off to the side, and take the remaining quarter hours, add up the total viewership in each quarter hour and divide it by seven. And that's the audience that AEW has. that artificial bump they're getting in the first quarter hour, and that first quarter hour weighs pretty heavily. When you take that artificial bump out of the first quarter hour, they've got five, maybe 600 actual AEW viewers. And they're going to get that artificial bump back.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Get that back tonight. So that's why I think they'll probably be up to. 680, 690, 710, somewhere in there. That's my guess. All right, we got Mo. Ben Wells, another great picture. Ben Wells has become a YouTube member. Thank you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:48:19 We're going to do some fun stuff. I know I haven't been as active with our exclusive members as I should be. A lot of it's just, I've been spread pretty thin for the last 10 days. But I'm home now. I'll be home for at least another two weeks. And I'm going to have some special exclusive, exclusive footage of the Bishop Family 4th of July. And I'm going to post it exclusively to our 83 weeks.com members. Like cooking steaks, going to the rodeo.
Starting point is 00:48:54 We have a rodeo every night. We're going to have some friends in town, some family in town. My daughter's going to be here. Her significant other is going to be here. First time he's been out to Wyoming. So his name's Alex. I'm looking forward to showing Alex around. He's a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But, yeah, 83 weeks members look for exclusive. Bischoff, 4th of July, family fun coming your way right here on 83 weeks.com. Thank you, Ben. Mr. Whisper, Eric, you might have already touched on this in another question or video. But have you reached out to Booker T? He was very upset on his podcast after the Russo Bash at the Beach episode of Who Killed WCW. No, I have not. And I'm wondering what he was upset about.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Now, I did watch that. I did watch it, but I... I don't know what he would be upset about. Probably something I said. Maybe I should reach out to him. Thanks, Mr. Whisper. I'll tag him, see what he has to say. I've always been pretty straightforward with Booker and he with me,
Starting point is 00:49:53 and we've always been pretty friendly. So if there's an issue there, I'll fix it. All right. Thank you, Mr. Whisper. Joe Dodd. Eric, did you have any hand in Ready to Rumble? Where did that fit in at the end of WCW? Ah, great question, Joe.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Again, go back in time, Turner Time Warner, merger, all of us, not just WCW, but every division inside of Turner Broadcasting was encouraged, strongly encouraged, to look for any synergies possible given the new merger, meaning we at Turner Broadcasting were mandated to look for opportunities where we could engage our counterparts in Time Warner so that one plus one would equal three. And we could enter into some kind of mutual initiative where both companies benefit, which makes sense. That's why companies merge, right?
Starting point is 00:50:54 It's the whole idea. So right about this time, I was approached by a young movie director. His name was, God, I can't remember it. I'll think of it before we're done here. Anyway, he was a young director at that time, and he had a script that he was interested in. It was the ready to rubble script. And under the new Time Warner, Turner, kind of let's go find synergy, he came up, he came to me, reached out to me and said, hey, here's who I am, here's some of the movies I've done.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I work at Time Warner films and we're looking at a feature film idea, and we'd like to know if you'd like to participate. So, of course, I flew out to L.A. and took a look at the script. I liked the script. It looked like it was a fun idea. And I could certainly see where there was a ton of synergy between WCW and Warner feature films to help make this happen. And given that it was the mandate, I was kind of being judged, if you will, as an executive by my ability and willingness and effectiveness at finding these synergies. So I jumped in with both feet.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And I didn't have really anything to do with the script. They had great writers that handled that. check with me on wrestling language and cultural kind of behind the scenes kind of things that would be consistent with the wrestling industry just to give it a real tone at least but i creatively i didn't really have anything to do with it but i did allow access and we did agree to a lot to let a lot of wcd talent partake in the movie that was the whole idea i think it was a great idea. I think I was actually supposed to play myself in that movie. Oliver Platt got my role because when I was let go, I'm the one that brought Ready to Rumble into WCW. I'm the one that
Starting point is 00:52:49 brought WCW into that project. I initiated it, got approval from Turner Broadcasting, did all that, and then I was let go. But prior to being let go, the conversations with the writers were I was going to play the, I was going to play myself. And, That didn't work out. No, was it Oliver Platt? No, I wasn't supposed to get his role. There was another guy. Oh, he was a character in Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I can't remember his name. That was supposed to be my role. Whatever. Eric, did you? Oh, that was it. That was a question. Thanks, Joe. Taking me down in memory lane,
Starting point is 00:53:25 reminding me of the big movie break I never really got. I don't think I would have liked it anyway. Best wrestling cameos. All right. What would you have done with W.C. I don't know, man. It's a theoretical question. I can't imagine being in that position right now. And so much of what I would have done would have been dictated to me by the people that I worked for. Meaning if I was still in WCW, still the president of WCW during the pandemic, it's not what I would have wanted to do. It's what Turner Broadcasting would have allowed me to do. I probably can't take it any further than that because I just can't imagine. Would I have wanted to perform in front of live crowds? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:10 But I just don't think it would have been possible at that point in time. But thank you, brother. I appreciate that. Jim Kahn, 1479. Were there any WCW wrestlers that show an interest in backstage roles like Paul Lovac and WWE? Yes, of course. You know, when Arne Anderson had surgery and lost the use of his hand, and really, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:35 not 100% use, but it's a lot of it. affected him, but he couldn't take bumps anymore. His in-ring career was over. And I wanted to make sure that he didn't have to worry about how he was going to feed his family. So I encouraged him to take that backstage role. And Arn was grateful for it. Don't get me wrong. Don't misinterpret what I'm about to say. He was grateful for it. But it was hard. It was hard for him as a guy who he loved wrestling. He was so freaking good at it. It was his love. life and then to wake up really at a very young age. I don't know how old Arden was at that time, but young, too young, to be forced out of the
Starting point is 00:55:18 business. And I think the emotional part of that hung on with Arn for a long time. I think by the time he got to WWE as an agent, he probably had gotten over that. But man, when you, when you're watching your friends and you're watching young talent come in and you know that you were as good or way better. them so many of them but you're just not able to get in that ring and perform it's it's got to be tough i'm not a wrestler so i can't say firsthand but i work closely enough with a lot of people that been in that position it's like losing a family member it's tough emotionally but other than that
Starting point is 00:55:55 pa paul horndorf loved being an agent paul warnerf i think when i look back at paul and him working behind the scenes. He was as passionate about his work as an agent as he was about his work in the ring. He loved it, really loved it, and took it very seriously, as Vader found out. Don't mess with Paul Orndorf as an agent or a wrestler. It's a bad afternoon if you do. But I don't remember anybody else other than Arne in Poland or expressed a feeling about it one way or the other. All right, let's do three more questions if we have them. And then, first truly, he's got to get to the gym. Hey, Eric, our man, Ed Evans is keeping an ear out on Tony Kahn's media call that's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And he just sent us a quote, and this is from Tony Kahn. Mercedes is one of the greatest free agent signings in pro wrestling history. one of the most significant signings ever in AEW history. They either need to up his medication or cut it back. What? I just, holy cow. Yeah, she's tearing it up, man. Talk about significant, the impact, the absolute impact that Mercedes-Monnais, my name.
Starting point is 00:57:28 his hat on AEW is off the charts meaning it doesn't fucking register. Is that off the charts because it's off the charts in a good way? It's off the charts because it's not working. And you know why? Tony? Because
Starting point is 00:57:44 you fucked it up. You didn't introduce Mercedes-Money properly. You didn't build her beyond announcing and teasing. And then he made the career-killing mistake for her of giving her a live mic.
Starting point is 00:58:04 She can't cut a promo, but yet you put her out there to cut promos for what was it, four, five, six weeks before she ever wrestled? You killed her character before a bell ever rang. And now you're going to put her on this pedestal and draw all this attention to her, encouraging people to make comparisons, and guess how that's going to work out? that's why you don't want to do things like this when you're down and you're fighting and you're trying to make a comeback be humble be grateful that mercedes money is there talk about what a great person she is to work with talk about some of the things she achieved
Starting point is 00:58:45 in the past talk about the fact that she's internationally known there's so many great things you could be talking about but instead you draw attention to her by saying some of the most ludicrous shit that's only going to come back and make it harder for her and you said it. My God, somebody please help this guy. Get one of the big little fucking hooks like they see in the cartoons when they want to pull somebody off a stage. Get that thing around the collar.
Starting point is 00:59:14 You don't want to put around his neck because you don't want to hurt the little fucker. But hook him by the collar. Drag them off the stage. Hand the fucking microphone to somebody else. Put somebody else as the face of that company. because almost everything that comes out of his mouth is quirky, stupid, or embarrassing. This episode is brought to you by Bluetooth. Let's talk about sex.
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Starting point is 01:02:24 Wow. All right. Jim Comsuvam. Kind of like that. I hope I can pronounce it correctly. Jim Comsum. Hi, right. Love what you did in WCW and WWE
Starting point is 01:02:38 and also love the podcast. Thank you very much, Jim. Going back to using celebrities and wrestling. Do you think using celebrities sporadically and pair them with a wrestler will bring eyes to both companies? Absolutely. I keep going back to Bad Bunny and Logan Paul
Starting point is 01:02:53 because there's just not two better examples. I mean, extreme examples of promotion and effort collaboration that works so effectively for both companies. I mean, with you, I don't know how many followers Logan Paul has, active followers. I've heard, I don't know if Super Dave you can find that number, but it's got to be in the 6, 8, 10 million category. I mean, whatever it is, massive.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And these are people that, that are actively engaged. I mean, they're following Logan, they're fans of Logan, they're listening to his stuff on podcasts, or they're following them closely. And when Logan Paul says, I think I'm going to get into a wrestling ring,
Starting point is 01:03:35 what percentage of that overall number do you think decided, you know, I don't normally watch WWB, I'm going to give this, because I want to see what Logan's going to do. That's, there's no better way to use a celebrity.
Starting point is 01:03:48 There's no better benefit than the benefit of bringing an entirely new, audience, it isn't a regular viewer of your product to sample your product because one of their favorite celebrities happen to be. Bad Bunny, same thing. Logan Paul, same thing. Yeah, and particularly when they can perform, particularly when they can go in there and have the quality of match.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It's so bad buddy. It still blows me away. He was one and done. He's gone. Logan Powell, I don't know how many matches is Logan had, maybe 12? and all of them have been fucking outstanding. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:04:27 12, 14. I'm not keeping track. But yeah, what an amazing promotion. Thank you, Jim. I appreciate that. Very, very much. Loving Paul has 32 million followers.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Okay, 32 million. 30, Jim, 32 million followers. Now you have to believe out of 32 million followers, there's got to be at least, 10 of them that never really cared about WWE wouldn't go out of the way to watch it. It's 30%.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Let's just say that. Just pick up a number. And of that 10 million, let's say half of them. Go, you know what? I like Logan enough. I know I don't watch WWE, but I'm going to. check it out. I want to see what Logan does at WWE. That's
Starting point is 01:05:26 5 million, potentially viewers, maybe more, maybe less, but I think at least 5 million new viewers to your brand. And then for the man to deliver the way he did, I don't know what percentage
Starting point is 01:05:42 of that 5 million will stick around and become WWE fans as a result of Logan Paul's participation, but I'm going to go on a super low end. and say 3%, because that's a direct response number. That's a number that in advertising, you pretty much figure that if you put your product out there, on average, 3% of them are going to stick around
Starting point is 01:06:03 or respond to a call to action. So if 3% of, let's say, 5 million people are now new WWE fans because of one match. How awesome is that? Very cool. 32 million. Oh, my God. a guy just he he must just i don't even know how he counts his money
Starting point is 01:06:26 katherine summers yay katherine we love love love it when females show up and invade this testicle festival that we conduct here on youtube all the time hey rick thank you for firing the first shot heard around the wrestling world in september fourth nineteen ninety five i can say i celebrated my eighteenth birthday that day well that is outstanding and thank you for that and by the way we're talking about going back and doing something at the Mall of America obviously not this September but maybe next September to have a reunion show if you will celebrating nitro with the podcast Conrad Thompson myself and a whole bunch of guests invading the Mall of America for the second time with wrestling but thank you
Starting point is 01:07:14 Catherine I appreciate that very much any uh any update super Dave from Our man with the plan, Aunt Evans? Here's the latest from the conference call with Tony Kahn. We are headed, we are in the red zone, heading to the goal line, and we're expecting to score a touchdown. And that's, he's referring to his TV deal. Okay. Well, maybe that's true.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I hope for his sake it is. But here's what I wonder. Like I said long ago, and I know, Dave Meltzer keeps spreading this lie that I predicted that AEW was going to get canceled, I never did that. It's another Dave Meltzer lie. And if Dave Meltzer can clip a recording where I said it or show me in print in an interview where I said it, I'll be happy to apologize for calling him a fucking liar, but I'm not worried about that because I never said it. I did suggest at a point in time when Warner Bros. Discovery was courting WWE
Starting point is 01:08:18 and was in a position to possibly acquire. It was either SmackDown or Raw. I did suggest, and after that was made public, I did suggest if that were to happen, Tony Kahn's toast, AW's toast. But that didn't happen. And I've also said on the record multiple times for a year and a half or two years,
Starting point is 01:08:41 that in all likelihood, TBS will renew AEW. I don't think they're going to get anywhere near the money that Dave Meltzer and Tony Con we're hoping for and talking about with Dave Meltzer in particular, the douchebag, talking about they're going to get a massive, massive increase in their rights fees because look what hockey is getting. So Dave Meltzer just extrapolating, you know, NHL TV numbers and assuming that you could use that. math and predict what AEW's numbers are going to be.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It was just totally childish, dumb fuckery. But I fully expect that Warner Brothers Discovery will renew. I think they're going to renew it at a very, very favorable rate for them, a license fee for the network, not necessarily for Tony Kahn. But so what? Then what happens? It's not like if they get a renewal, all of a sudden the show is going to get good. It's not like if they get a renewal, ratings are going to go up.
Starting point is 01:09:45 It's not like if they're going to get a renewal. They're automatically going to wake up one morning and go, fuck, now I know how to tell a story. Now I know how to actually be a buckler or head of creative or whatever the fuck Tony calls himself. He's got like 20 titles. It's another sign. But people that need titles bug me.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Like, I never gave a fuck about titles. Give me the money. money, give me the freedom, give me the stroke, money will be good. The money will come. I don't need titles. I've worked with so many people that would fight over credits or titles. It's like, what the fuck? And I've also worked with people that, you know, they're negotiating.
Starting point is 01:10:35 They want $100,000 a year, and I only want to pay them 75. But I'll just give him a fucking fancy title. It doesn't cost me a dime. You want a title? You want to be director of something? Hell, I'll even throw a vice president title at you if it shuts you the fuck up. Do what I need you to do. Anyway, don't give me any good titles.
Starting point is 01:10:57 All right, what else we got? Matt Wilson. Hey, Matt, what's going on? I'm glad you're here. Eric, have you worked with Jacob Fed, too, and what do you think? think about his introduction. I have not. And I think everything that's related to the bloodline is working pretty well.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I can't tell you that I specifically have noticed his introduction. Maybe I haven't seen it often enough. But I have not worked with him. But like I said, anything that's remotely associated with bloodline seems to be just bulletproof. and I wish them continued success. All right, let's do one more question to wrap it up. Knob deep, what was the hardest decision you had to make when you were running the show? Ooh, good one, man.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I actually, with one or two exceptions, I hated firing people. I absolutely, it was always hard for me. In fact, so hard for me, there were a lot of people I should have let go when I took over WCW because I knew where their heads were at. I knew where their loyalties were at. I knew where their hearts were at because I worked with them on their level. I was an office guy or I was an announcer and you learn how people think and what they feel about the company and where their loyalties lie and where their goals lie
Starting point is 01:12:24 when you're working with him as peers. And then all of a sudden I get elevated to being president of the company. Now there's nothing they can hide for me now. We've shared too much time together. So I didn't fire enough people. There were probably a half a dozen people that had I let them go and been able to find suitable replacements, which wouldn't have been that hard.
Starting point is 01:12:49 It would have made things a lot better in the WCW offices. But hey, you learn from experience. All right, I'm going to wrap this thing up. I was going to do this for like 20 minutes. It's been over an hour because I just don't know when to shut the fuck up. But this is it. Thank you guys for joining. I'm going to do some more of these next week.
Starting point is 01:13:09 83 weeks.com members look for your exclusive Bischel family 4th of July fun pack. It should be a T-shirt. Speaking of T-shirts, if you have not seen the EZE Eric World Order T-shirts, check them out. We'll post them up, social media. You're going to want to get that because it's cool as shit. It's one of the T-shirts is the reason the NW shirtwork, ladies and gentlemen, for all of you who want to know why to this day, MWO merchandise is still selling, some of the top selling merchandise in all of WWE, 25 or 30 years later, you want to know why.
Starting point is 01:13:45 You can do it because if you're a wrestling fan, you know what that brand means at NWO. But you can wear that shirt and go out to a club and try to get laid, and that person you're engaging isn't necessarily going to know you're a wrestling fan. So if you're a wrestling fan, you can operate in both worlds. you can wear that t-shirt to a wrestling event and you're all part of the it's like being a we're in a fraternity man you're one of us it bonds people together it brings them together emotionally spiritually they're there to have fun drink beer yell at some people they'll be getting a fight in the parking lot when you're done whatever but you're all there
Starting point is 01:14:26 together you can also wear that shirt right and try to relate not many not many wrestling logos or brands merchandise you could do that with it's like NASCAR go to a NASCAR brand everybody's got fluorescent pink and orange and purple and fucking green everything in NASCAR is like fluorescent color right drives me crazy and you see you know 75,000 people 10,000 100,000 people are all wearing some kind of NASCAR super bright fluorescent shirt their favorite driver or their favorite car or favorite sponsor whatever how many people how many of those people do you think wear that t-shirt out, go from the NASCAR track, and then go hit a club and try to get laid. Maybe a lot of them try, but that's a buzzkill.
Starting point is 01:15:16 But not with the EZE Eric World Order based on a new World Order design. You can wear that shirt to a wrestling event, and everybody will know that you know. But if you need to go out and have some fun, you don't need to stop home and change shirts. There you go. That's the best pitch I could give you for the EZE Eric World Order. t-shirt. Thank you all very much. Anne Evans, my Sherpa guidesman through this valley and mountainous terrain here
Starting point is 01:15:41 on YouTube. Thank you very much. And Super Dave, you're always the best. I'm out of here. See you next time.

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