99% Invisible - 99% Invisible-09X-99% Doomed

Episode Date: November 13, 2010

99% Invisible Extra! NASA is figuring out how to take the next great leap into space. The difficulty is, if we leap to Mars, we might not make it back. This is a story I produced last year (Summer 200...9) … Continue reading →

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We get support from UC Davis, a globally ranked university, working to solve the world's most pressing problems in food, energy, health, education, and the environment. UC Davis researchers collaborate and innovate in California and around the globe to find transformational solutions. It's all part of the university's mission to promote quality of life for all living things. Find out more at 21stCentry.ucdavis.edu. This is 99% Invisible. I'm Roman Mars. And this week I'm talking to you, directly, the podcast audience who I like to call the 99th percentile, and not the radio people because I took a week off
Starting point is 00:00:40 the radio show just to do some other work and catch up on some things. But this is actually a piece that I really want to present to you because it's an older piece I did about a year and a half ago for a tech show pilot that never got picked up. So it only got the pilot itself. Only got heard by about 15, 20 people. But I really love this piece. I put a lot effort into it and I liked it.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And a lot of my job in general is to pilot shows and to work on new things and sound design new programs. But the consequence of that is sometimes you make radio that isn't on the radio, which is weird. And so this is one of those pieces. What makes it so appropriate is this actually represents a design problem. And the problem, if you see it as a problem or design challenge, is how do we get humans on Mars? There's certainly technological solutions to this problem. There's solutions that involve a lot of willpower and money, maybe, but there's also some out of the box thinking that might come into play. Some of the information in the piece is a little old, so it's about a
Starting point is 00:01:41 year and a half old. There used to be a constellation project, which was the Moon to Mars program that got scrapped by Obama when the world ran out of money. And I think that's about it. But most of it is still pretty relevant. And I think it's actually quite enjoyable to listen to. So I hope you enjoy it too. So this is the 99% of visible this week. It's called one way ticket to Mars. 10 9 ignition sequence start. We can ticket to Mars. We can get to Mars. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:02:09 To break Earth's gravity and hurdle towards the red planet is totally doable. The science fiction part. The tech problem NASA says will take four decades to solve is how to get back. You can't carry enough fuel for a round trip. It's too heavy. The Mars astronaut will have to make new fuel up there. Literally, dig a mine on Mars. Harvest minerals whip up a nuclear reactor. Assemble rocket parts. Not easy. But if you really want to go to Mars, like now, if you can't possibly wait any longer,
Starting point is 00:02:39 James McClane has another plan. I think what we should have is a short program, possibly a ten-year program, like the Apollo program, where we would actually develop the equipment and land one person on Mars, and we would keep that person resupplied. The prime thing that makes this feasible is that you don't plan on bringing this person back. I want to let that sink in for a second. The prime thing that makes us feasible is that you don't plan on bringing this person back. I want to let that sink in for a second.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Alrighty. McLean is now an oil and gas pipeline engineer, but for over 20 years he worked for NASA on the Shuttle Safety Systems and the International Space Station. And though he no longer has anything to do with space, he is still a man on a mission. I began to be disturbed that there were options as far as space travel to other planets that NASA wasn't considering. I brought up a technical meeting once that a guy was giving a presentation about NASA's plans for the future. He raises his hand and says to this guy, one-eyed one way. One person because it cuts down on the weight and supplies to a manageable level.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And one way, because getting them back is really, really hard. He was just astonished that anyone would what even mentioned such a thing, it just sounded almost immoral. But the more I thought about this, the more I realized that it was actually probably the only way that we could see this
Starting point is 00:04:08 thing happen in our lifetime of the current generation here on Earth, because all of the other schemes that I read about involve developing exotic equipment. It's going to take 50 years. You could call it a suicide mission, and many people have. McLean says it's really no more of a suicide mission than the early Vikings making their way to North America. But I think it's really no more of a suicide mission than life itself. Our Mars explorer would be going to live out a life on Mars, a dramatically shortened and unbelievably harsh life, but a life nonetheless. Well, it wouldn't, it would not be pleasant.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's putting it mildly. It would be, I guess, like living in a submarine, you would probably live in a habitat that was covered with dirt, you know, so you would only go outside occasionally, though the conditions would be so dangerous. Mars has a poisonous low-pressure atmosphere, so your space suit better work, forever. But that's assuming that you can leave your base at all, because Mars is also home to the solar system's largest dust storms that can cover the entire planet for months. And if anything breaks, you're toast.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Or more accurately, you're a popsicle, because it can get down to 190 degrees below zero. Then there's the cancer-causing cosmic radiation. Are you talking about a problem? You better hope not. And it's only a suicide mission from the astronauts perspective. The problem is that for NASA, it's more of a homicide mission. And that's a little harder to sell to Congress. But explorers get it.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Mr. Second Man on the Moon himself, Buzz Aldrin, says the one way trip is the way to go. Do you really think you'd have trouble getting volunteers for the greatest adventure in history? Right now the space shuttle has been demonstrated to be an extremely extremely dangerous vehicle. But people are standing in line to get a chance to fly on the fastest thing on the planet. People are willing to take that risk for the chance of doing something remarkable. This person is going to be more than just somebody to go down in history.
Starting point is 00:06:17 This person will be like an atom or eave type figure, a legendary figure. Plus, I have to admit, there is something about it that captures the imagination, a doomed lone explorer and a tiny metal tube, sending out daily transmissions back home. It would be poetic and beautiful and kind of inspiring and horrible and macabre. It would be riveting and it's probably never going to happen. I think that's a non-starter from NASA's point of view. We're not going to send astronauts to Mars without the capability for them to come back.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That's Chris McKay, Dr. Killjoy. I'm the deputy program scientist of the Constellation Activity and Constellation as NASA's return to the moon on to Mars human exploration program so he's actually planning NASA's man missions to Mars well personally I I wouldn't want to go on a one-way mission and also I like the idea that we bring Mars into the sphere of human activity which means we go and come and we go and come I don't see why we have to surrender to the technological challenge and say, okay, this is impossible. We can't do it. I think that's a cop out. What we ought to do is say, well, let's build better rockets. Come on, you guys. Engineers get to work. I want a round trip.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Chris McKay and NASA think we should go to Mars once we're ready to establish a long-term base. Something like the Antarctic base, where there are humans there, year-round coming and going and doing research. To boldly stay, paraphrasing Star Trek, that becomes the pacing item. But in a sense, what's the rush? Why do we need to rush to Mars? The author of the One Way Plan, James McLean, is 64. So for him, there is a rush. Well, some of these questions would be nice to answer in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'd like to know the answers. I'd like to know the answers. People say, well, don't you want to see it in your lifetime? To which I respond, well, I'm not that old. Maybe I will with 40 more years, unlikely, but hey, I go running every day and I don't smoke. The fact that it's in my lifetime or not is really not an important consideration. NASA shouldn't make its decisions based on the lifetime of its current scientists and engineers.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And of course, that makes good practical sense. But isn't there something to this idea of a bold Apollo-like 10-year mission to excite the imagination no matter what the cost? Shouldn't we recapture the thrill of the space race. The way you win a race is you exert yourself fully during the race, even if it means that after the race you collapse into a blob at the end of the finish line. And that's what we did at Apollo. We exerted enormous effort. We took our best people, pushed them as hard as we could, and we won the race, and then we collapsed at the end of it. But the political context for space exploration now is very different than a race.
Starting point is 00:09:06 The Apollo precedent is not the precedent to follow here. And that's a big problem. Apollo was NASA's golden age. When anyone talks about returning NASA to its former glory, that's the model they point to. Except for a small blip of interest during these space camp craze of the 80s, the shuttle era of NASA only camp craze of the 80s, the subtle era of NASA only grabbed the attention of the world when there was a horrible, horrible tragedy.
Starting point is 00:09:31 James McLean asked you to imagine nightly broadcasts from the Mars base, peering with an astronaut over the edge of a crater five times deeper than the Grand Canyon, hearing stories from the base of a volcano so tall it nearly reaches space itself. We have front row seats to the greatest and coolest hail Mary Pass in the history of humankind. One man, one way McLean says, fulfills the bold and inspiring NASA of his youth. But he can feel it, and Mars slipping away.
Starting point is 00:10:03 They won't even study the option. If they set up a small task force or an office to study this particular option, I believe it would be obvious just from the technical studies that this is the only way it could be done, relatively low cost and in a relatively short period of time. All of the other schemes are going to Mars. There's no way it's going to happen anytime in the near future, if forever.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Forever is too long, whether we follow the one-way plan or not, maybe more than out of the box thinking, what we really need is another country to come along, and start talking trash, and go this back into the starting blocks of another space race. China, I'm looking at you, I'm Roman Mars, the guide to the modern world. So that's the 99% invisible for this week. Originally broadcasted into the headphones of some Muckity Muck at a public radio production and distribution company who did not like it enough to put it on the radio. It was good, wasn't it? I don't know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it. I get to stretch my legs a little bit this week a little longer and four and a half minutes. Everyone happy now? Thank you very much. I mean it's not like I want to show this to be four and a half minutes long. That's how much time I have. That's all I have on the radio. So maybe it'll be longer someday, but I kind of like it. It's a challenge. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it. I'm Roman Mars, that was 99% invisible. Take care, and I'll talk to you next week.

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