A Geek History of Time - Episode 347 - Vampires, Opiods, Werewolves, Meth, Ghosts, and Depression Part II
Episode Date: December 12, 2025...
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They mean it is 2 o'clock in the fucking morning, where I am.
The 1848ers were so much more radical than what we're comfortable or familiar with.
The layer, the layer of sarcasm involved in that entire delivery is, like I've seen, I've seen, yeah, it's not even frosting.
But he failed, so fuck them buddies.
Like that now after World War II ended
Lockley started mapping out foot trails
for the newly created
Oh God, Pembrokeshire
So Pembrokeshire
Okay
Pembrokeshire
Just please let me just read Latin all day
We're way into the 19th century now
I'm sorry
Well Damien
It's 3 o'clock in the fucking morning
Thank you.
I don't know.
We're going to be able to be.
I don't know.
We're doing.
We're going to be able to be.
This is a lot of it.
geek history of time where we connect nerdery to the real world my name is ed blaylock i'm a world
history teacher here in northern california and um i just got some really actually very exciting
news a day before yesterday um for a while now i have wanted to teach uh actual fencing in a in a flex
class at my school and uh the only tools i've been able to get a hold of and the only thing i've had
time to really do with them has been pool noodles and being able to kind of tape
handles on one end of them and then treat them like lightsabers which I mean it's fun but
they don't make very good trainers for swords because parrying with a pool noodle is
kind of pointless um no pun intended because I'm not Damien and and they also don't hold up
very well, especially when they're being used by, you know, 11, 12, and 13 year olds.
So I have wanted for a long time to try to do something, but like the tools just haven't been
there. And I found out on Thursday from a community representative who works with our school
district that they will be able to provide me, we will be able to do.
somehow they'll be able to fund it as a special project to get me the funds to buy a set of 20 actual foam swords to use so I can actually start teaching my kids how this is actually how a long sword handles and I am I am giddy with excitement I'm going to meet with this with this gal on the next week during my prep
And I cannot wait to figure out how we're going to do this and make it happen and actually start doing this for real.
It's going to be amazing.
So that's what I've had going on.
How about you, sir?
Well, I'm Damien Harmony.
I am a U.S. history teacher and economics teacher at the high school level up here in Northern California.
So, by the way, I've had—
And you're so thrilled about that, clearly.
Yet another Econ class added to my schedule.
Oh, fuck.
So wait, hold on.
So now you're doing three Econ, two, history?
Other way around, but yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So the majority is still history.
But it's three, two, six.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, okay.
So I totally just dated this show, but.
Well.
So, yes, I am those things.
So this week, okay, my neighbor is.
Somebody I've spoken of before, he runs a game, the Curse of Straw game that I play in.
Right, right.
He's my buddy Kevin.
He's my neighbor at work.
He is, I think, entering into his ninth year.
And that's what I call your young veteran status.
Once you get to year nine, you're a young veteran, right?
Okay.
And so he's in his ninth year.
and I saw like because because prior to that you're still getting your feet under you they're throwing different things at you you're still doing this but by the time you get to your ninth year or so you've found your stride you're able to absorb whatever's coming at you and you're able to keep going largely at speed like you'll still need some advice from time to time but you largely have now figured out how to figure things out on your own yeah and you've got enough bags in your tricks in your bag that you can just handle almost everything.
comes with you. And most importantly, you still have the vibrance and enthusiasm because the hope
hasn't been beaten out of you yet. Okay. I also think that having me next door means that he's allowed
to have more of that hope because I'm the, I am the, the shammie cloth to which all the lint
comes, you know, in terms of the things that will steal your hope. The amount of text messages
I've had to deal with this week alone from colleagues and what have you. You're the one
draws the agro yes yes so you draw agro which is
which allows because your personality yeah your personality uh comes across as as
barred but you really do tank in a very big way like do how how does that work okay i'm a
skull i'm a skull and a scold a little bit sometimes and when they're done they've been schooled
so there you go but uh but uh there was a kid came up to him
was talking about something deeply personal just and and he's he's the teacher that kids very often
will go to and trust right and just like hey I you know da da and I saw him handle the whole
situation asking the perfect questions to validate their experience talking about his
experience but without like trauma dumping or turning it on him or getting too personal
I saw him absolutely like giving them kind of the you know this is going to
to be a hard gear for you but you've got enough pieces in play that you will be able to do this
and don't forget if you ever need help you can ask me and i can put you in connection with
these other people and also if you need a quiet place you could just come and he handled it so
master this is during passing period within five minutes this kid went from i accidentally vomited
out what was happening in my life i'm horrified i'm embarrassed to i'm looking up in life
and he did it in five minutes and not everybody can do that but like and I but there are those who
can right yeah more importantly though I think I told him right after I'm like there's no no notes like
this is what being a young veteran is like you seven years ago would have overstepped here or here
you would have overshared this or you would have you made it you maybe would have done this and you
or you wouldn't have asked the right things or you would have needed more time with them
but like you handled every moving piece.
So it was just really cool to be able to recognize that.
Yeah, that is good.
It's awesome.
So that's largely all the news that's with me.
Let's cheer things up.
Last time we were talking about heroin addiction.
Yeah, yeah, let's cheer up by talking about a massive public health crisis.
That's awesome.
Yeah, great.
And how it was mishandled.
So brilliant.
Yes.
So you remember the crossover point on the rising heroin deaths where synthetics overtook non-synthetics in the additives to their overdose was in 2017, right?
So that's after being humans stopped.
Being human stopped in 2014.
But, you know, this way you can kind of see the trajectory.
And again, 2017 is also when heroin overdoses peaked in recent years at about 15.5,000.
Um, Jesus.
Now that number is down to 3,900.
So we're doing better.
Um, but 90% of those 3,900 are in combination with synthetic opioids, uh, opioids.
Um, so a question.
Yeah.
About that based on where we are now.
Uh-huh.
Do you have a breakdown when you're talking about synthetic opioids?
Do you have a breakdown of how many of them are like oxy and how many of them are fentanyl?
No.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um.
Because fentanyl has the, you know, hey, look how much more powerful this is, you know, effect of, you know, being a widowmaker if you fuck up with it.
So, yeah.
Now, the number peaked in 2017, like I said, but then it has dropped off a lot since then.
I think the studies that I was getting from the CDC hold, number one, fentanyl is still new enough.
Right.
That we might not have collated all the data.
Number two, you could look at what's happening federally
in terms of being able to collate any data.
And number three, I think fentanyl is being classed differently
than heroin and synthetics.
Okay.
But I did notice that, again, the number peaked in 2017
has dropped quite a bit,
but the prescription-based opioid overdoses
have only dropped from 17 to 13,000
from 2017 to now.
So those are holding steady.
People are overdosing much more on prescription-based opioids than they are on heroin.
And about half of those deaths, half of the 13,000 that I believe happened last year, were in combination with synthetic opioids.
So people aren't just sticking to one thing or the other.
It's not mayo or ketchup.
You know, it's now a combination.
It's combo sauce.
Yeah.
So, but like I said, I want to largely focus on a TV show from 2011 to 2014, featuring a vampire, a werewolf, and a ghost.
And I want to focus largely on what people saw and knew then.
But I just wanted to remind you, kind of a bridge to the previous episode, here's where that went, right?
Right.
So back to the show, finally, being human, which you can find streaming.
Again, this is the American version I'm talking about.
being human the vampire is clearly the cutout for heroin and opioid addiction
and in 2011 both of those things were rising
the character his name is aden played by sam whitwer
right uh and the the name aden is a call out to the actor who played uh the vampire
in the british version oh aden i forget his last name but he's the dark curlyish
Curly, curly-haired, yeah, yeah, yeah, byronic-looking dude.
Yeah, yeah.
But they literally named the vampire after the guy that was playing it.
So anyway, I believe that actor's name was Aden Turner.
That sounds familiar, yeah.
He was in like another show called like Polkingham or Polkinghorn or something.
I don't remember what it was called, but it was like, you know,
a period piece.
Yeah.
So anyway, so Aiden, the American vampire, played by Sam Whitwer, is a nurse when the show opens.
Okay.
And he's trying hard to be good.
He regularly talks about the yearnings that he has, the physical withdrawal feelings that he has.
And he's found that drinking bagged blood from the hospital slakes his thirst, but only just.
So it's like methadone.
Now, it's funny that you say that because I was talking this over with my,
daughter Julia and she says oh are you going to highlight the the fact that he was like using
bagged blood which is like processed and and something that you have to get a doctor's signature for
compared to drinking live as being like the difference between oxy and uh and heroin and i was
like i found my replacement for the show um like i never even connected that she's like oh
that's the first thing i went to because i explained to her what heroin and what oxy
and how Aiden represents that
And she goes right there
I'm like holy fucking shit
Because like what happens later in the show
100% highlights that
And he talks about
Needing to get a clean supply
So I might be adding stuff in
Based on my daughter's analysis from a week ago
Yeah well your your daughter's pretty fucking smart
Yeah
Yeah
There's no shame in that
It's like god damn
Yeah
But he calls
He calls
Unbagged blood
bag or blood from the source blood from people um he calls that drinking live um and drinking live
is a constant temptation um and and drinking live is so much more rich and tasty and vibrant
and he gets high off of it okay anytime a vampire gets blood in their system there is a euphoric
feeling there's a high that they get so all right this this uh goes back to um
kind of the
erotic subtext
of vaporism
and I'm going to get into that too
there is there are linkages there now
so Aden is using a medical facility supply
which like you said is
like he's trying to wean himself off
of live blood with a lesser product so yes
methadone yeah
and in the very first episode he relapses
that's how we meet him it's post
relapse, kills a woman during sex.
So here's your combination.
And the combination of his addictions are very dangerous and very well
signaled throughout the series. In fact, every time Aden starts dating
someone who is a vampire, they both end up going after live folks,
even though Aiden is trying to stay clean.
So this is the...
Wow. Okay, the levels on which this operates.
And then every time Aiden dates somebody who's not a vampire,
his friends are constantly worried that he's going to drain his new paramour in a major uh you know
like in a bad way and that's a constant plot point wow so he relapses in the first season this is
the first we've met him right his old mentor who finds aden's desires to go clean idiotic
swoops in and helps aden and and the thing is his mentor is kind of like one of the the he's like
the chief of
of Boston
as far as the vampire community goes
he's a cop who also
runs a mortuary
and so he's
got all the legal
all the connections yeah and so he's got this
network of people who take care
of shit right people who want to be
close to power who will help bag a body
up and quickly and he
hires moving companies and all this kind of stuff
so so
yeah to go back to
earlier episodes
in Vampire the Masquerade
terms. Yes. He would
be the prince of their
city. Yeah. Okay. So that would work.
Yeah. And so he swoops
in and helps aid. His name's Bishop, by the way.
Okay. Oh. So
comes in diagonally.
But he helps Aiden and he
of course pressures Aiden into
returning to the ways of the vampire. He's an
enabler.
And kind of a push
it sounds like uh-huh okay he's also and because aiden was his right-hand man and now he's kind of the
prodigal son right and he's like kind of you know no i'm gonna go clean we can be better than this
and blah blah blah and he's like there are food man what are you doing now what's really fun is he's
played by the same guy who plays the devil in supernatural oh really yeah yeah that blonde dude
oh yeah yeah and he actually leaves this series to go play the devil to go play lucifer yeah well yeah
I mean, how do you think they found the guy?
Like, oh, oh, him, oh, him.
Okay, so.
So him, that one that you're visualizing and seeing, he also played Jacob in Lost.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not entirely typecast, but like he has a type.
Yes.
And we cast him at it often.
but yeah um wow that's that's amazing the other parallel that i'm that i'm hearing
here uh in the in the writing of the character not not so much of the actor but in the
writing of the character um i know i mentioned the tv series forever night when i when i
talked about vampire the masquerade yeah um and nick knight's uh vampiric father
mentor.
Okay, anytime there's a vampire name Nick, it's hilarious to me.
Yeah, well, yeah.
But go on.
But his vampiric father, you know, a mentor figure, is Marius, is his name.
Okay.
And he is, in fact, a Roman.
Like, he was, he was from, he's from the Roman imperial period.
And he has, he has much the same attitude.
Only it's, it's constantly.
delivered with this with this lovely um bemusement like like he he finds it funny yeah he's he's also like
you know this is stupid you're you're being foolish they're just cattle right it's that same vibe
it's that same like and he's playing the long game he's like okay you'll slip up in 60 years you'll get
over this phase two yeah right yeah so yeah it's mark pelagrino who plays him by the way yeah yeah um so
anyway yeah similar kind of
archetypes going on yeah
so Aden's description
and the way that it's portrayed when he's
drunk and drink and drank drunk
I don't I don't really know how to
say the past tense
of drinking live drunk and live
drinking live when he has
drunk live
drank live yeah
anyway
when he's when he's sucked somebody dry
yes
it's very similar to what the immediate effects of heroin and
are first there's a removal of the pain that he was feeling from with the withdrawal yeah then there's
a rush of euphoria and sometimes there's an engorged feeling that he exhibits but it just makes him want more and
more and more and what's doubly interesting here is heroin users tends to use heroin intravenously
it leaves marks on their veins right for in the vampire he leaves those marks on other people
yeah and the destructive and isolating effects of being a vampire also mirror heroin and oxy addiction
because once aiden gets going he can think of very little else besides his next feed uh other vampires
who never got off of it bishop marcus all of the are all of the omish mother and even henry
wait wait wait time out i knew i couldn't get that past you i'm fucking out hold on the omish the omish
There's a sect of Amish vampires
Yes, they're from the old country
And they come up and they are
They're very old school about being vampires
And they're way more powerful than Bishop
And he has to appease them
And there's all kinds of like
Traditional versus modern
And country versus city and all kinds
Okay, okay
But yeah
They're Amish
Yeah
Like literally the straw hats
And the outfits
It's like no collar, you know, no mustache, but beard.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's not just a term that the modern vampires use to refer to them.
No.
No.
No.
They might actually call them the Dutch.
I forget.
But like, it's adds to it.
I need to watch this show now.
You do need to watch this show.
Fucking bonkers.
It's great.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
So anyway, all of them.
the mother, Henry, all of these are characters that I'll talk about later.
They all seem to be much better at managing their use of live blood,
although they also will indulge in a good blood den from time to time.
Because, again, part of Bishop's power in Boston and part of the power of the Amish and all that
is to have hangers on, people who want to be in proximity to that kind of raw.
power you know right because at least i won't get eaten right yeah now aiden is a feast and famine kind
of guy and uh all the new vampires he encounters are also feast and famine because they're
brand new vampires so they have a hunger um they usually remind him anytime he encounters a new vampire
they usually remind him of why he's trying to stay clean and it almost always ends with them
dying due to being able to control their urges so he ends up staking them by the way staking
a vampire in the heart very common
you can still use wood to do it
okay right
um actually the
the woman that he relapses
on in the very first episode her name is
Rebecca and she ends up
getting turned like bishop
was like yeah we'll clean it up for you don't worry
turns her instead
and there's a whole subplot about that
and she fucking goes off the rails
and I'll get to that
okay anyway um in the first
season.
Aiden actually,
remember when I told you there's
like some really beautiful scenes
and there's some really horrifying
stuff that happens. This one
just broke me.
Aiden ends up turning a child.
I think his name was
Benny.
And because the child
was getting bullied by the guys across the street
and they push him and then a car comes
and da-da-da-da-da. And Aiden
actually turns up because he can't bear to see
little Benny die.
and then he has to stake him like two episodes later wow because you don't turn children
and bishop just like grabs him by the collar practically he's like oh i'm the bad guy look what
you fucking did you turned a child we have rules aiden which is wild because bishop's just this
manipulative prick but like he's like we have rules you do not do this shit and da da da da
blue and orange morality yeah so he also has to stake the woman that he thought
killed in the first episode, Rebecca, because Bishop had turned her.
She first, although her arc is a little bit longer, and at one point, Aidan is trying to
recreate a nuclear family with her and Benny, and it doesn't work, but at first she engorges
herself in her new vampire lifestyle.
She, I think, murdered several friends, murdered her family, called it the best meal that
they'd ever had, which was clever.
She murders random people on the regular, and then over time, she comes to hate herself
for it.
Yeah, okay.
And Aiden tries to help her to clean up.
Starts with the bagged blood.
And then like it just she can't handle it, right?
She needs live because she's a brand new baby vampire, right?
And so over time, she's hating herself and she continues to relapse and the cycle continues.
And he's trying to help keep her clean.
So, okay, it was a relapse.
It's okay.
We can work toward this.
You were almost there.
you almost were beating the hunger pangs
and then at the end of the first season
she begs him to stake her
and he does
because she cannot take it anymore
and she just wants to be dead
Aiden has to live though
yeah so I got a question
thinking about this
so far
all of these
circumstances that you've described
involve either
a victim being turned
or victims dying
Yes
Is it canonically not possible
For a vampire to feed without killing
Oh no it's very possible
Okay
Yeah Aiden like there's
There are
There are places that you can go
They're blood dents
So people volunteer themselves
And they get paid very well
There's also like this underground
Like dirty old women
Whose house you go to
And she cuts herself right
on, you know, the elbow pit vein.
Right, right, right.
It sucks from that.
Again, clear, like, you could see all the scars on her arm.
Clear talking about heroin, the seediness and all that, you know.
Okay.
So I just wanted to, yeah.
And in fact, that is a plot point when dealing with the Amish.
I don't think I spent much time talking about the Amish, but they come up and Bishop is engineering a hostile takeover.
And he's going to take all of Boston.
the Amish won't have any say in what they do anymore right now they come up every 50 years and they
give you shit right and you have the cow to them and so he takes them to a blood den and they are
looking down their nose at how modern this shit is and people just willingly give their blood
like what's the and he's like you know well it's it's tonight is is your night you can do whatever
you want and they're like well we don't drink blood we drink live or we drink life that's what they
say and they slaughter all the women there just kill them all kill all the people in the blood
den and bishops like man what are you gonna fucking do you know um and then the next day he's got
them over for dinner you know and you're gonna love this one it's a pregnant woman with twins
that's who's tied to the dinner table it's it's bad it is like super perverse wow and they're
like okay you know that sounds good we'll go for that it's just like like it's a
fucking delicacy and he he basically um entices them to eat and and they do and then they all start
kind of having like throat troubles and like allergic reaction issues and stuff like that and he says
oh yeah um i've been feeding those gals down at the blood den for the last couple weeks they've been
having a heavy diet of juniper berries um and uh and this is how we find out canonically that juniper
fucks with a vampire uh vampires also don't like garlic that's also a thing but like
Like you can smell that on someone.
But he says, and the funny thing is, is if you had just drank the way we drink, you wouldn't be paralyzed right now.
And he goes through and kills them one by one by cutting off their heads.
That's another way you can kill a vampire.
And he's like, yeah, you guys are greedy little fuckers.
And like, you know, because of your greed, now you're paralyzed.
And so there's just this whole thing.
Aiden stops it.
There's a whole subplot because Aden's trying to like, he's trying to live.
within the status quo he thinks that if bishop takes over it's going to be too much and also he
wants to live clean and so he actually rescues like one of the only omish um and this is where rebecca
like helps him to escape and kills marcus and begs him to you know this and uh and a few episodes
later uh aden ends up having to um well anyway uh aden ends up having to kill off his mentor at the end
of season one oh wow
which is apparent like there's a bit of a discussion as he's he's wrapped um what's that called razor wire
around his neck and he's he's telling him he's like i begged you to stop i begged you to stop and you
wouldn't stop and bishop like reaches back and caresses aden's cheek and said it was always going to be
this way and they'd been together for like two 300 years and aden pops off his head right um and
And one of the reasons for that is it allows Pellegrino to go and be a more frequent character on Supernatural.
Right.
That's part of why.
On a business level, yeah.
Yeah.
And then season two starts with Aden having to kind of struggle with the infrastructures that are faltering to keep the vampire community from going just all in on devouring the city of Boston.
Right.
Right.
And so much of season two is focused on Josh and Sally, the werewolf and the ghost, but.
But Aiden ends up being beset by those who were even more powerful than his mentor, bishop, the Amish, as well as mother.
And Aidan's desire to keep clean is even more alienating with those vampires because they're like, oh, you're a heretic.
You're not just like doing this little experiment.
You are a dangerous heretic, so you'd better knock that shit off.
and he basically is given the task of taking care of a woman named Surin
who is the daughter of one of the most powerful vampires in the area named mother
um she basically her daughter Surin went crazy in the 1930s
there's a whole subplot with the the guy that Aden made um okay and so there's there's
all kinds of stuff here um and Surin basically slaughter you know kills somebody an open
open view of
an entire party at a hotel
in Boston. So all the
vampires basically have to eat everybody there
and the amount
of, you know, obviously
fall out. Yeah, and so
mother punishes her daughter
for shaming the family
by burying her alive
and
it's 80 years later. And so
she's dug Surin up
hopefully she's learned her lesson
and it's Aden's job to rehabilitate
her. And I say this ironically and unironically to rehabilitate her by getting her all the
live blood she can drink and getting her healthy again. So the layers upon layers. And at one point
he even tells Josh, he's like, I am going to have to get deep into this shit. And I will need you
to pull me out. Find a way. Because the only way I can keep us all safe with what we're doing is to do this.
Because what they're doing, ultimately, is Aiden and Josh are best friends.
Josh is a werewolf.
Aidan is a vampire.
There's enmity between their communities as always.
Traditionally.
Yeah.
And the two of them don't like being the monsters that they are.
So they want their house to be a safe haven where they can just be human.
Cute credits.
And that's where they meet Sally, the ghost, who is not letting go of the fact that she's, you know, like she's dealing with.
the fact she's dead. I'll explain her story
a little bit later, but like the three of them are
essentially running their own halfway home for
themselves. And Aden's
like, the only way I can keep you guys
safe and keep this place
safe is if I go do
this for the vampires. They will not take
no for an answer. They don't have the values
that I have. So I need to
pull me out. Like that's...
So the thing
is, is that one of the reasons that Surin
is this way is because Aiden
indulged his
son, I guess, because he made
Henry. And
actually, Aden,
um,
Aiden was playing around with Suren
and then Henry was playing around with Sourin.
And Aiden was like, Henry, you're banished.
You can't fucking do that.
And, and so Aiden's relationship with Suren.
And, you know, he's kind of a lowborn
compared to mother kind of thing.
Right. Right. And so
this is mother's way of punishing him
and
putting the two
like it's manipulations
within manipulations
right right yeah okay
so it's
so it's a hundred thousand percent
vampire shit
oh yeah yeah yeah
like so if you want to have
your independence from our community
fine
um
you know
you you teach Surin to take over Boston
and when that's done
you can have your independence
now of course you can have your independence
ends up turning into like
that means you're banished from Boston
but, you know, at the time, this is the best deal he can get, and she's super powerful, right?
So, yeah, Surin is a very powerful vampire, but she's always been a little touched in the head.
She's always been kind of indulgent and bloodlusty.
And so Aden's job is to control her and teach her the ways of power.
Like, you know, like, we're going to discipline you.
You killed your mentor.
We're going to look the other way because of all the shit that he did.
By the way, he was creating, like, he created over 300 vampires.
You have to call that herd by over, by two thirds.
So you got to kill them.
You got to prepare her.
Like, it's...
Wow.
Yeah.
It's that, it's that, you know, I remember, I don't remember what book it was in,
but there's a, I want to say it was...
It might have been Dark Saber, where Luke talks to,
a one of the Star Wars books
Luke talks to an Imperial
he says do you know why Palpatine
named all of his ships the way
they did and the person was like
oh fuck I don't care and he's like no
I think it's important
like you don't fly a ship called
the corruptor as its captain
and feel good about yourself
and yet nobody really
mutinied against the emperor the emperor
named all of his ships horrible
things to remind people
that he was corrupting them.
Yeah.
And CERN is kind of the same way.
Or not CERN, mother is kind of the same way.
So.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's quite something.
I'm just, I'm sorry, I'm going back to the whole 300 vampires thing.
Yeah, in Boston.
Like, because Bishop was trying to create,
like basically make Boston its own self-sustained community and probably to expand.
He had big dreams, right?
Okay.
So mother's like, he's off the reservation.
You killed him.
You're not supposed to kill him.
But, you know, it's kind of like the trial of Heratus, right?
Yeah.
Like, look, you did the right thing, but also you don't get to do that.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I had something, but it went away.
So he's tasked with culling two-thirds and training Surin-up.
And this is kind of as punishment for killing his master.
And also letting Bishop get that far afield.
There's all kinds of like, again, like I said, one of the defining features of this show is nobody actually ever listens to anybody's reasons for anything.
It's like a French farce without the humor.
Yeah.
And so his past indulgences have come back to bite him.
Okay.
Yeah.
There you go.
But yeah, he has to bring her back from her exile punishment, which means a lot of live blood.
And of course, all that live blood represents a huge temptation to him because, like, he's got his back to, you know, like just outside of the room where she's just sucking people and draining them dry.
Yeah.
And he's like, all right, bring in three more, you know, that kind of thing.
And I think they're actually keeping them alive.
But, yeah, we see all sorts of flash.
to when he was fine with his vampirism
and how it led to the deaths of hundreds
in the 1930s, which
1930s totally fits
the heroin thing.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Based on the history we had.
Right.
In fact, in fact,
the heroin act of 1924
was the first act
really to specifically regulate heroin
by way of prohibition.
It was just as successful
as the Volstead Act
of 1919.
Yeah.
So in that it wasn't.
But it just made heroin more glamorous,
more dangerous,
and more likely to kill people
doing there being no regulation
besides prohibition.
And by the end of the 1920s,
more than 200,000 people
were addicted to heroin in America.
Boy.
Yeah.
Now, Aiden's past
that we focus on in the second season
is exactly at that time
in Boston.
and the absence of easily obtained alcohol,
the largest group to get addicted to heroin
was actually middle and upper class women.
Really?
Yeah.
Huh.
Interesting.
There was a definitive split philosophically
between people who were willing to make money on prohibition.
Some had zero problem adding heroin to their profits,
and others thought that it was too hot for the police to ignore.
They'll look the other way on alcohol.
they won't look the other way on heroin.
Okay, yeah.
But none of them were vampires capable of slaughtering an entire gala of wealthy people and then hiding it.
So there's that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
But heroin definitely made its way into the music scene along with jazz, but, but, you know, that's also a thing.
But back to Aiden.
He's tasked with rehabbing Surin.
And at the same time, his own son, the made vampire Henry, comes back.
to town now just real quick henry was a medic in the army in world war one aden went off to fight in
world war one he made henry okay uh questions sure just based on that um so by this by the time
world war one had happened aden was already a vampire yes uh turns out later on we're going
to find out that Henry is
or not Henry
Aden was turned into
a vampire during the Revolutionary War
Okay
All right
Now how
How does sunlight work
For vampires in this setting
Is it is it
Host Noseferatu traditional
Which is to say sunlight
It burns we're dead
Or is it like
Dracula in sunlight a vampire
is just significantly weakened
or like
okay so in the first
episode when Sally finally
obviates herself to Aiden and Josh
she's asking Aiden all the questions
that all of us are interested in knowing and it's a really
clever way of
telling us the rules right so he's
brushing his teeth okay I think is funny
but he's brushing his teeth
and she says like do you eat food he's like
we can eat it in front of people to blend
in but it does us no nutritional value
okay and she said
what about sunlight? He's like, we used to be more sensitive to it. Now it just kind of hurts our eyes. So we'll, we wear sunglasses. She's like garlic. He's like, yeah, that kind of brings out our fangs. Um, but not a big deal. He doesn't mention the juniper berries. Okay. Um, and, uh, you know, he talks about how blood has healing qualities and it's kind of like being drunk. Um, and that's, you know, and so they, they go through all the rules. It's kind of cool. All right. Nice. So. Okay. So that, that, that, that narrow.
He theoretically gets the writers around a lot of issues.
Yes.
Oh, and he's brushing his teeth in front of the mirror.
He can see himself.
Okay.
So we got the reflection taken care of too.
Yeah, right.
So now, like I said, at the same time, Henry actually comes back into town.
He had been banished from Boston.
Aidan banished him under threat of death for fucking Suren because Aiden was fucking
Surin.
And he's doing all, Aiden is doing all that he can to manage.
both Henry and Surin, both of whom have a heavy hunger for hemoglobin.
And the whole time he's trying to keep himself clean.
Jesus.
Yeah.
He even asks Josh to support him.
And Aiden hardly ever asks for support and help.
And this is what I was telling you about.
Josh is the werewolf.
And he says, like, I'm going to need you to, like, help me keep Henry safe and healthy and help me do this.
And Josh, like, just like, Josh is a very moral person living with a person who literally is a human predator, like a predator of humans.
Right.
And so, and Aden's trying to stay clean, but like, he's like, I need blood to keep these people going and to help these people out.
And Josh is like, fuck no.
And he kind of Nancy Reagan's it up and says, no, just don't drink the blood.
just say no um but aden's not able to operate as josh sees fit and eventually he relapses again um
and this time he actually has brought two girls home to feed to henry and they can still glamour
by the way and so he glimmers oh and they also still need to be invited in oh okay um and i can't
remember if glamoring actually counts as being invited in um like you glamour someone they say
won't you come in? I can't remember if that's, if that happens.
Okay. If they can cheat that way, right.
Right. But anyway, so Aiden brings two girls home for a party with Henry. Henry,
Henry comes back. Okay, he's the kid that he's the son that Aiden made. It's the 1930s.
Henry oversteps and fucksuren and basically Aiden, like I said, exiles him in the 1930s from Boston to save his life because mother would have killed him.
And, okay, wait, hold on.
So you said, oh, okay, right, because mother is Aiden, not Aden, is Suren's mother and finding out that he had done that.
Okay, got it.
Right.
Got it.
Okay.
So now Henry comes back and Aiden's like, hey, if I'm going to help Surin, you got to let Henry back.
And mother is like, we'll let Henry back on one condition.
I get to flay him.
And so they do.
like Ramsey Bolton style
like yeah oh shit
so he's a giant open sore
Aiden asks Josh to please invite Henry in
because he's the only living person there right
and Josh is like no this is our house
and he's like this is Henry
like this is my son like you
look at him like I have to get him better
and Josh like fine come in
and he tells Aiden like no blood no blood
And Aiden's like, they're clamping down on the bag blood.
I got to help him.
And again, he's one open sore, right?
So, Aiden brings these two girls home.
And Henry is, he's glamored them to think that Henry's the most gorgeous man ever.
He's glamored them to just, you're having a great time.
And it wears off when they see themselves in the mirror bleeding all over the place.
And they see Henry for what he is.
And they start freaking out.
And Aiden has to kill them.
in his own home
and Josh is very very angry
yeah
um so he yeah
aiden kills two girls who are like I said
being used to rehabilitate Henry from his
being skinned by Suren's mom
um
and uh and and Josh is super angry
he's like you brought this into our house
the one place that it doesn't exist and he's got
legit grief here yeah and like he's got a legit point
here but at the same time like there's this
Again, you're really angry and you're not listening to this guy.
Right.
Also, there's two dead girls upstairs.
I kind of get it.
Yeah.
What jumps out at me right now thinking about all of this whole situation you've just described, is this is exactly the kind of thing that Vampire the Mascarade was designed to be like, this is the horror.
This is the moral horror.
Yeah.
This is the, you know, these are the choices you now need to make.
And, oh, my God, how awful is that?
Right.
Yeah.
So, Aden's trying like hell to help Surin and to help Henry.
Right.
And to help the orphaned by Bishop's death vampire community to go clean.
And he's, like, really dragging his feet on culling 200 of them.
But the problem is that, like, they can't stay hidden because they're fiending for the live blood.
So Aiden's like at his wit's end and there's the whole plot of murdering the excess vampires that CERN actually ends up being a part of.
So essentially she's rehabbed up enough, right?
Right.
And she, as I recall, Aden has her over for dinner with Josh and Josh's girlfriend.
And it's really tense.
And then the girl, the lady's kind of slip into the girl talk.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm sorry, it's not, it's not Nora at that time.
Josh is actually dating his ex-fiancee by this point.
There's a whole plot point with that.
And Josh's ex-fiancee, unbeknownst to Josh or Aiden, met with Aiden and the two of them
had a fling for a little while, but he didn't know that she was the ex and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So there's this whole, like, tense dinner where Aiden.
and Josh know that
like they both know that
Aiden and her name
was Julia. Aiden and Julia
slept together and they both know
that like she knows and
and now Suren like
kind of cracks the code.
Right. And Aiden's like she gets really
jealous. I don't know what she's going to do.
But like
it works. They make it
all work and there's like this again
his house is like this place
to try to be human. And Suren's like
I understand why you are trying to do this
it's not for me though
and Aiden's like look we can build a life together
the two of us and he's trying to save her right
right right and he's like we could build a life together
the two of us we can make this work
and she's like mother will never let me do things this way
and blah blah blah he's like but we can try
and she says I have to do what mother says
and so what she does is she buys a house
where all the vampires were hiding
okay
she buys she gets
a human to buy that house
okay
like you know
she signs it over to him
and as soon as he finishes signing it
they're all uninvited guests
and they all emulate
and it's
and Henry has she's co-opted Henry by the way
and Henry
tells Aiden like
okay let's go talk to them let's go
make it right for them let's go let them know where they're going to be henry fully knows what's about
to happen and he gets aiden to leave just in time and you can see them through the basement window
kind of thing like begging and dying so it's a whole fucking plot like yeah it's well within wheels
like it's one of those like it takes almost as long as an episode to describe the episode you know
Sheen does that because that's the price of doing business for her mom.
She's got to show that she's like grown.
So she's she's killing off the people that Aden couldn't.
And Aiden still tries to run away with her.
And the problem is, this comes back to the heroin thing.
The problem is Surin cannot stop drinking live.
Okay.
And there's a lot of talk between the two of them about withdrawal and being strong enough.
And you just got to get used to the bagged blood.
And so when Aiden is out trying to secure passage, like trying to find, you know, the Underground Railroad to go to Canada, basically.
Right.
Zerun Boltz.
And she says to him, like, you know, she basically, she's like, I can't leave behind this lifestyle.
And I can't escape from mother's clutches.
So Aiden decides to do what any good vampire would do.
He figures he's going to kill mother.
So, and he gets Henry to help him to do so.
but Henry gets captured
and that's just about the end of Henry
and Aiden then gets captured
and mother
kills Suren right in front of him
and everyone else
and Aiden straight up says
like
you what does he say
he says something to the effect of like
you never loved her
and now you have to live with what you've done
and she says
maybe but so do you
and they lock him in a coffin
and they bury him alive
with his hunger as his only company.
Wow.
And that's the end of season two.
It's awful.
Now,
between seasons two and three,
there's about a year in that universe, right?
And eventually Aiden gets dug up
and he's emaciated and very bearded
and so season one was 2011,
Season 2, I believe, was 2012.
Okay.
Season 3 is 2013.
Okay.
Or it's, you know, it's the 13-14, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Or it's the 12-13, sorry.
He's emaciated above ground, there's been an enormous flu outbreak that was, it hit humans
pretty hard for about a week.
Okay.
But we got over it.
If a vampire drinks from a human who had that flu, they die within a week.
like die die die wow yeah like like creeping like looks like black plague almost they're necrotic um this flu is deadly to vampires
and so aden uh escaped all that by being buried alive oh great and there's very few vampires who are
uninfected and there's very few humans who are
unaffected and now there's no way
to screen for it
Oh shit
Yeah so
Aiden escaped all of that by way of a fate worse than death
And while he's being
Dug up and is nursing himself back to health
He's actually doing it by drinking
Interestingly enough
Somebody the guys who dug him up
We're trying to sell his blood
To other vampires who were starving
because the going theory was okay you can't drink from humans maybe you could drink from a vampire
who's not infected and so they were draining him with like vile like big fucking like gallon milk cart
or milk jugs and they're draining him and he ends up you know killing them and and he's drinking his
own blood that someone drained from him uh to to do this it's it's all kinds of weird anyway
It turns out that Henry actually escaped from mother and he set himself up with a young lady
whom he glimmers daily and she's never allowed to leave the house.
Oh, wow.
So she has been indoors for a year, which means no flu, which means Henry's living.
She offers Aiden her blood, and so he ends up eating live again after a year of not.
and this is because Henry has compelled her to do so, right?
He's glamored her, he's compelled her, and Aiden kind of figures it out, you know, he figures out pretty quick, like, you know, like, wait, this is not her own free will.
Like, you've been compelling her, and he's like, I'm staying alive, Aiden.
You don't know what it's like.
You had it easy compared to what we've had, which is wild and impetuous and something that, like, you know, somebody who's only 80 would say.
right so um aden uh yeah henry and aden uh are are trying to um they're trying to figure out how to get a clean fix
right because aden while henry's out and about doing stuff aden lets her go and henry's like we got
to find her he's like there's no way dude even if you do find her somebody could have sneezed near her
She's in the wind
We have to find another way
So in other words
He threw out Henry's supply
Yeah
Right
Henry's pissed
And Aiden's like
Look I've lived off of bagged blood
Before we will find a way
We can go clean
We can
So he's trying to
Right right right again
And Aiden asks Josh
To try to prescreen patients
Now in this year that has passed
Remember Josh
Was an orderly at the hospital
he has now worked his way up to being a nurse.
There's his whole story I'll tell when I get into meth.
But he asks Josh to try to prescreen patients
with the question of, did you get last year's flu?
Okay.
But what if you were asymptomatic?
Yeah, that's a problem.
So it's not too effective.
And Henry dies because he can't go without drinking live.
And he ends up drinking somebody who was infected.
And after Henry dies, Aiden basically hits rock bottom.
and he doesn't care where the blood's coming from
and he's drinking live.
And he's out there engaging in all the risks all the time.
And again, this is just wonderful inversions.
Instead of using potentially dirty needles,
he's drinking from potentially dirty people.
Right.
But right as he's giving up,
his friends, of course, refused to let him continue to self-destruct
and he tries to go clean again.
And that's when he meets...
Now, I misnamed a kid earlier.
His name was Bernie.
that little kid that Aiden had to kill.
Okay, yeah.
The kid Aiden meets now is named Kenny,
and he is a bubble boy.
Oh.
In the hospital.
So he's a clean source of blood.
So Aiden is running blood.
He gets his job back, right?
They get a fire back because there's a nursing shortage, of course.
And so he draws blood for samples for tests, you know,
in finger quotes on Kenny
and Kennedy eventually figures it all out
and actually has Aiden's stand near
he's like oh I'm taking a video for like
this documentary I'm doing on my time
in this hospital
can you stand over there the lights better by the window
seeing if the sun hits him
how about over here can we get a shot of you
reflecting in the mirror
you know and Kenny has figured it out
and Aiden's like Kenny what do you think
I'm a fucking vampire like you've been watching
too many horror movies like what are you doing
and Kenny has befended this kid
And it eventually comes out that, yes, Aden's a vampire.
Remember, there's not that many vampires in Boston.
So when they find out that there's a bubble boy in the hospital, one of the more powerful vampires who's only like 12 because all the old ones died off, including all the Amish.
But there's, again, I'm skipping over a lot of really important plot.
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah, but our purposes, yeah.
Yeah, so this one particularly manipulative vampire shows up in the hospital and she's tried to manipulate Kenny.
She registers as his aunt and Aiden's like, look, you come here again and I will fucking end you.
Like, I'm 200 plus years older than you, so don't.
And so she kind of has to back off, but like she basically promises Kenny, like, when you're,
turn 18 I'll turn you into a vampire because Kenny's been stuck in this bubble all his life right
and he's like when I turn 18 I'm getting the fuck out of here and he asked Aiden and he's like no no
fucking way and then she kind of steps in and she's like I'll do it because you're fresh blood
until then you know yeah and so Aiden's like all right fine I'll turn you just because I don't
want you to be under her thrall um but you got to know what you're getting into and so he kind of
takes Kenny through, like, what it is to be a vampire. And Kenny's like, all right,
um, despite this, and any, and it's like, so you sure you want to be a vampire? And he's like,
yeah. And it's like, no, you don't, dude. Like, you missed the whole point. And Kenny's like,
look, when I turn 18, I'm walking out of there one way or another. Now I can either die or you can
turn me. Um, Jesus. And, and, and, Aiden's like, fine. And this very specific relationship is
between them shows me the opioid crisis in full.
Aden is the conduit through which Kenny can live a normal life.
So Kenny has a medical condition, right?
Aden's vampirism in many ways represents the opioids.
Because Kenny can have a normal life, but it means a lifetime of addiction.
So you can be pain free if you're addicted.
And that's the trade.
And Aiden is also involved with the whole subplot with a werewolf patriarch of purebred twins who's trying to kill him.
His roommate Josh has actually reunited with Nora, a woman that he accidentally turned into a vampire.
And she fucking hates Aiden's guts.
I'll get more into that later, don't worry.
And when Josh and Nora taken a teenager who just got turned into a werewolf herself, the purebred patriarch named Liam,
manipulates her into poisoning Aden with her own blood.
and vampires, if they drink
werewolf blood, they just puke it all up.
It's known to cause vampires to get violently sick
and weak after consuming it.
So if she doses his clean doses of blood
with her vampire blood or with her werewolf blood,
he'll be too weak to fight off
the patriarch who's trying to kill him, right?
Right.
So Aiden has drank werewolf blood unwittingly.
And he actually had drank it earlier,
like the previous season when there was a thing that happened with Sally
and Aiden like basically had to drink some of Josh's blood
and he gets violently ill and all this shit happens right
so Aiden has drank her blood unwittingly
she dosed his clean supply right
and Aiden like she basically is getting ready to stake him
and Aiden like kicks her and knocks her into a wall
which hospitalizes her and Nora hates him even more
and right around this time
Aiden starts trying
you know he's trying to live clean again
and he's only drinking from Kenny
and then and this shit happens right
right so now
like that kid is on life support
we'll get into that more
and he ultimately makes Kenny into a vampire
okay
now Nora
is like at the bedside of this kid
who she's like you know
16 17 very
troubled kid right um she's at the bedside and her tenant because she's been subletting her apartment um her tenant comes
and that woman's name is cat and she shows up and she runs into aden um and she turns out she's
an historian who loves the early pre-revolutionary period of massachusetts okay and that's when
aiden had been turned okay so nora's like you stay the fuck away from cat and he's like
Like, what, leave me alone.
Like, chill the fuck out.
And Josh is like, I'll make this better between, you know, he's trying to.
So Aiden goes on a date with Nora's friend, Kat.
And the patriarch, Liam, finds him and kidnaps him.
And so Kat's like, what the fuck?
Like, he just walked off with these two guys.
I'm a little worried.
But he goes quietly to keep cat safe.
Because the werewolf is like, we could take you alone or we could take you with a corpse, you know.
Yeah.
And Aden is being tortured by Liam with silver, because silver hurts vampires.
He's being tortured, but also silver hurts werewolves, so Liam puts on gloves to use it.
Kind of cool.
And he's cutting him, and he's stabbing him, and he's beating the shit out of him.
And the whole reason is because Liam had these twins who got to know Josh and Nora,
and they both are dead.
And what's happened is that
Aden killed the son,
but Nora killed the daughter.
And her killing the daughter happened off screen.
I'll get to that.
But essentially, Liam blames Aiden for killing them both.
Okay.
And Aiden didn't kill them both.
But Aiden is getting tortupt.
and he finally says you know because guys the guy's like you know what happened to my son he's like
I fucking killed him and he moaned like a little bitch and just like infuriates Liam so Liam's just
beating the shit out of him with like chains and stuff and just like brutalizing him
Josh is coming to save Aden and then he's like what happened to my daughter where's my daughter
you know who did it and everybody knows that Nora killed this guy's daughter he's like
who killed my daughter and Aiden says I did
I wanted a matching set, basically.
Like, I killed your fucking daughter,
and she moaned like the bitch that she was and da, da, da, da, da.
So just he's taking it all on him.
Right.
And Nora was the one that killed it,
but Aiden is, like, claiming that he did.
And so Liam injects him with tainted blood.
Like, here's the blood of somebody who had the flu
and injects him with it.
now you're going to die and it's going to fucking suck and all this, right?
Right.
Josh rescues Aiden and he's like, dude, Nora hated you.
Why did you still cover?
He's like, I was dead already.
Like, at least this way this guy would leave you guys alone finally.
Right.
Josh tells Nora this.
She's finally chill.
Okay.
She starts to realize that Aiden is not the awful person that she thinks he is.
So Aiden has the disease in him
He's got the flu in him
Right
Like he's been injected with yeah
With his blood
And this is where we find out
That Aiden is actually immune to the disease
Because he had drank werewolf blood
So
There it is
Right so Aiden comes home
And he goes to Kenny
And he's like
All right
I promised you
I was going to
turn you, I'll turn you. Okay. Um, and again, he, you know, he, he only did this because this other
younger vampire was going to try to turn him. Yeah. So he turns Kenny after he finds out that he's
immune to the disease. Okay. I drank werewolf blood. And apparently that gave me the antibodies to
fight this shit off. Right. Okay. So in 2011 to 2012, it was well after H1N1, which is what we used to call
the swine flu. Right. Um, and, um, and,
That was one of the shortest and narrowest peak years of the disease.
Okay.
Okay.
Which means that in our public consciousness, the swine flu was still there, even though it was actually off of our collective radar as well.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because that had happened in 0809.
In fact, in 2009, it was such a big deal that when I was in childbirthing classes with my then-wife, the flu vaccines were discussion.
pregnant women should you get the flu vaccine right and i will admit here that i was being a bit
ham handed or hamheaded in my thinking um basically i was apathetic i was like i don't care one
way or the other about it um you know hurt immunity is going to be fine if i don't get it it's not a
big deal if i do get it you know the vaccine it's it's not a big deal um i was not as informed as i am now
about vaccines i was you know speaking from a position of quite a bit of privilege but there was another
couple in there where he cared a great deal and she was significantly younger than him if i recall
correctly but he cared a great deal and she preferred not to get the vaccination while pregnant and a
couple weeks later like i noticed that like that divide in them you know well sit in the circle
I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
A couple weeks later, she shows up to the, you know, they'd shown up, or I guess they missed the next week.
And then two weeks later, she showed up, they'd split.
Oh, wow.
So H1N1 was big in people's consciousness.
It was one of the first big flus that, like, we were like, oh, shit, this is a big deal.
Now, by 2012, 2013, the flu was on the rise again.
It was a huge jump for the previous year.
It was 38% higher infections.
So this flu plot line made a lot of sense from a cultural perspective, right?
We had a name for it.
We had the swine flu, right?
H1N1.
I mean, it was scary either way.
We'd been frightened within recent memory, and then our fright had lulled.
So a plot about the flu when the writers are putting together the third season and it's rising in public consciousness
because it's an especially bad flu year, absolutely, you know, makes sense that this would be a
major plot point.
Okay. Yeah.
Now back to the sexy vampire.
Aiden has been passing out at random or in random alleyways essentially because he's relapsed.
Now that he knows he can drink live with no health risks to himself, the only thing stopping
him would be a moral issue and he is relapsing.
So that's out the window.
Right.
he's accidentally made a few people into vampires too um and uh he finally gets around to making kenny um one of the people he makes vampire by the way is one of cats ex-boyfriends who like tried to embarrass her in an archive or some shit uh um she shows aden a book that was written by his his actual grandfather oh wow yeah or is his actual father it was kind of interesting okay um but anyway uh so he finally makes kenny
uh who is just living it up on his last day of being a human right right um and uh the problem is though
that kenny is has been turned by aden who is a vampire who now has drank wolf's blood
and that changes the kinds of vampires that aden can make it's he's kenny is all sorts of
fucked up think of like nos ferratu but with a lot more facial tumors oh
Yeah.
So instead of getting to be like Lestat, you're like that.
And by the end of this season, Aden is back in recovery.
He's trying to live a fairly normal life.
And Kenny is massively deformed.
So in season four, Aden's arc is much more about trying to guide his shrunken community
to live in a way that doesn't hurt other people.
He's basically kind of becoming a pretty close to a 12-step guru, if not actually.
actually.
And he has to deal with all sorts of his, all sorts of aspects of his past.
And he absolutely has another relapse, but then he seems to go pretty clean after that.
It's like his final relapse.
A lot of that, a lot of season four is actually much more focused on Sally and Josh.
Aden finally found a measure of stability through his, although he does run into his ex,
to his ex-wife from the 1700s.
Oh.
So that's got him definitely living out the hardest part of the 12-step program.
So essentially his wife, Susanna, he gets made into a vampire by Bishop during the American Revolution.
He comes back and like he spends years away, you know, because that's what fighting is.
And he and Bishop are living it up and they're drinking and he's learning how to be a vampire under Bishop.
but then he goes to live back with Susanna
and his little boy
whose name I think was Liam
but
he
Aden is trying to live a good life
married and all that kind of stuff
there's all kinds of tension in the town
with the minister and shit like that
and essentially
trying to see
yeah okay so
essentially his wife
Susanna is put into a dunking chair because she's in league with the devil because the minister thinks that Aden's the devil because they keep trying to conceive a child and the child keeps getting stillborn.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Happens many times.
So clearly you keep having stillborn children is a punishment by God.
And the only reason is punishment by God is your husband is a devil.
And so we're going to drown you in front of the town.
unless you admit it.
And so she drowns.
Yeah.
Downstream, Aiden slaughters the whole fucking town.
Right.
Like you do.
Yeah.
His son, he tells, before he does this, though, he tells his son run home.
So the son runs home, but his son is actually peeking through the reeds.
Aiden kills everybody.
Susanna is gone, right?
Aden goes on and lives his life.
He leaves the place.
his son is a an orphan
etc
well as it turns out
Bishop found Susanna
and turned her
and in her bloodlust
she ends up finding her son
who's an orphan
and kills him
well Bishop was a real fuck man
he was
so wow
a aden runs into his wife
who now she's been
living for almost as long
as he has. Yeah. And she
has figured it out down to a science. If you drink
70 milliliters, is it
milliliters? Milligrams.
Millileters would be the, yeah. It'd be
in a vile. If you drink
70 of those a day of blood
then you can get by.
And she whips herself
every night for penance
because she killed her fucking son.
Yeah.
And she goes and kills other
vampires all the time.
Aiden basically is like, I have to stop you.
She kidnaps him.
And she chains him to like the sink in this hotel room.
And they have a long talk about what it is to be a vampire.
And in that talk, she basically like she has him recount.
all of the people that he has hurt.
Again, the most intensive fucked up 12 step, right?
Yeah, no kidding.
And at first, he's like, oh, you want to know?
Fine, I'll fucking tell you.
And he just dives into the evil.
He's like, have you ever drank somebody who was afraid?
You can taste it, can't you?
It feels, and he's describing it.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I enjoyed being a vampire for a long time.
We could do this all day, you know?
And he basically, and she's like, that's fine.
But I know you're a good man.
and eventually you're going to feel bad about this,
and you're going to face yourself, and then the real work can start.
And she basically, like, threatens him with staking him if he doesn't clean up.
And he kind of pretends and pretends for a while.
And eventually, she lets out that she killed their son.
And the two of them just have this breakdown moment of utter grief.
grief. Yeah. And like you think that there's been a breakthrough here, but she, she's clearly
holding on to that self-hatred. And he's like, you've got to let that go. He says, look, I, I absolutely,
like, I miss him and it's terrible and it's awful. And I know that you didn't have any control
over yourself. You have to forgive yourself. He's like, that's unforgivable and blah, blah, blah.
And he grieves a ton. But then he points up, he's like, I'm going to slip up a
again in the future because I'm a vampire and all I can try to do is stay basically he's saying
one day at a time right and she's like no you have to commit now and you have to promise yourself and
if you don't then I will kill you and all this and he's like you've never slipped and she's like
oh that's you know that's what this is for and all that so essentially through that through that
mutual greeting he ends up having to kill her also or she I forgets she does
dies, I forget exactly how, but he's, he's tied to it.
So after this, like, this is the, this is toward the tail end of season four, the final season.
He finally, like, she degriefified him.
She got him to let go of all the things.
Essentially, he's the addict who has really found his center.
Okay.
Where you're like, he's not going to have another relapse.
You just, you kind of know, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like when people are like, yeah, I got my 25th year chip.
And it's just one day at a time.
It's like, it's very rare for you to slip up at this point anyway, though, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So he's found his center and he ends up having to stake both.
Oh, that's what it is.
He ends up having a stake Kenny and his wife.
And then he goes and fights a bunch of werewolves to rescue Josh and Nora again.
And Sally, she's a ghost, but she gets witch magic.
I'll talk all about that.
talk about depression um she's gained in ways that i'll explain later and she actually resurrects
aiden to stop him from murdering josh and she basically puts all of her witch magic into him
and she she essentially shows him the light as it were and he has a heartbeat all of a sudden
and she disappears right that's that's the end of her existence on the show but like he has a
heartbeat and he starts to hunger for actual food and the thing is he's over 200 years old so he starts
to age really quickly but his last week or two uh is him devouring food and and like trying to live a
life and and like dealing with that and he's aging very quickly and and about a week into it he's
going to vampires and begging them to make him a vampire again so he has cleaned up he has regained
his humanity and he's trying to throw it away because as it turns out he's truly afraid
to die yeah he spent his whole life hating how he lives but when it comes to the specter of
actual mortality he's gun-shy about it right and so here's a man who's got every chance to stay
sober to stay off of the
all-consuming addiction that he's had for
longer than the country has existed
which is its own commentary
on addiction I think
and Aden is
so scared of the actual
feeling of
true and authentic feelings
that he has not had to deal
with because he's been always
fighting his addiction that now
that he's not addicted he's trying
to get hooked again
and I think that's that's wow yeah that's the profundity of it and and that's the perpetual addict behavior right
like he's just one bad relapse away from cascading down again and he's trying to chase it down
wow now one of my favorite parts from this is that he actually sits there and feels the weather
because he hasn't had live skin.
Like, it looks alive, but he doesn't have a heartbeat.
He doesn't have a pulse.
So his nervous system is not, like, excited by the wind or anything like that.
He actually feels the weather, and he's actually tasting food for the first time in 200 years.
Wow.
And there's a line in the show where he said that everything he ate always tasted like garbage, like actual garbage.
But that's how he managed to blend in with people.
That's just what vampires do.
Right, right.
and now he's eating a hamburger and chili fries.
And I love that for a couple of reasons, but like it's that authenticity, right?
So while he's trying to deal with that, Josh catches him trying to get turned.
Right.
And Josh basically is like, what the fuck are you doing?
You finally got what you wanted and you're going to throw it all away.
And he breaks down.
And then after that, after addressing those feelings, again, he hasn't had to deal with feelings for so long.
Right.
Right.
He has this huge breakdown with Susanna.
Most of his life has been about denial, hiding it, trying to fight your addiction, and that takes all the energy.
Well, now that he doesn't have the urges, he still has the behavior, and he's still trying to recreate it, right?
Josh kind of calls him out on it, and it doesn't kind of, calls him out on it, and Aiden snaps too.
So he's enjoying a hamburger and chili fries with his friends.
Now, here's the thing about hamburgers.
there has been something approaching a hamburger or hamburger adjacent since the 1750s.
In the famed later edition of the early cookbook, the art of cookery made plain and easy by a lady.
It's actually the author of her name was Hannah Glass, who in the introduction said,
quote, if I have not wrote in the high polite style, I hope I shall be forgiven.
for my intention is to instruct the lower sort
and therefore must treat them in their own way.
So it's a printed cookbook in the 1750s
that was made for servants
who knew how to read
but who were going to make food for themselves
not for the highfalutin aristocrats
who are trying to impress each other.
Okay.
And it was literally titled with that byline
of the art of cookery made plain and easy by a lady.
Right.
Okay.
The 1758 version mentioned a recipe for Hamburg sausages.
Okay.
Hamburg with an H at the end.
Jefferson and Washington each owned a copy.
The book was popular before, during, and after the Revolutionary War, and of course
Ben Franklin had a copy.
Yeah.
This means, then, that Aidan living in Boston,
or just outside of Boston
might have actually eaten
Hamburg sausages
and he might remember eating them.
Okay.
But Hamburg sausages are not hamburgers.
Right.
Glass's recipe called for beef.
Sueet, S-U-E-T,
which is either cattle or sheep kidney fat,
pepper, cloves, nutmeg,
quote,
a great quantity of garlic cut small,
white wine, vinegar,
salt, a glass of red wine
and a glass of rung.
Wow, all right.
Mix all that up and then stuff it, quote, very tight into, quote, the largest gut you can find.
There you go.
Now, you could keep it all year that way, and you could serve it with piece porridge and or with a toasted piece of bread under it.
Okay, very, yeah.
Feels kind of like haggis.
It's kind of hot doggy.
Haggis, but with more versimilitude and less lung.
more beef first of all and yeah and yeah yeah okay now it's not until the early 1800s that a hamburg style
american fillet was offered in new york called such as many europeans had come from the port of hamburg
and still that and the hamburger round stook which is stook with a you with an umlout yeah yeah which was
say again
Stuka
But there's no E at the end
Yeah well yeah
I'm I'm I'm
Thinking of a different word
Oh okay
Oh like the dive bombers
Yeah
Yeah well
Round stork or whatever
Stook
But it was it was
That was mid 1800s fair
And those
That and the American
Hamberg style American flay
Also weren't what we would recognize
As a hamburger
Okay
But they are
We are getting at like
the name being used and Proto-style hamburgs.
Right.
Because this had buns, and it had meat and sauce in between the buns.
Okay.
But the meat is almost minced, and it's more likely it would be sausage patties that got squashed.
Yeah.
Sounds delicious.
It does sound pretty good.
Now, in 1873, we see a Hamburg steak, Hamburg without the age.
Okay.
At the end.
Yeah.
Offered in New York, but in an 11-cent plate with.
sides of breadcrumbs and onions okay so still doesn't count right and steak tartar was also ground
meat but it was usually served fucking raw with an egg because fuck a parasite am i right
well yeah i mean that's that is steak tartar right yeah yeah yeah so now between 1885 and
1904, many claimants
that what we now acknowledge as the hamburger
were operating. Some credit it
to the Hamburg steamer line
of ships, which makes
sense. Ground meat, easy to store,
right? Ground meat was
getting cheaper, by the way. I went deep
into like meat
grinders, essentially, in the pricing
and the generation of them.
You started looking at
its trade wins, didn't you?
A little bit, a little bit. A little bit.
A little bit. Also, their trade wins.
So ground meat, you know, you could start to use cheaper and you could, you know, pin it down in an ocean-going vessel.
And so ocean-going vessels going from a town that had a history of small flattened meatballs or sausages that were served in a dish was now serving up a patty between buns, right?
And so that kind of makes sense.
It also seems to have multiple inventors from multiple fairs and amusement parks, the hamburger does, which makes sense.
we don't know who invented a deep fried twinkie only that they exist, right?
I think it's parthenogenesis myself, but whatever.
It's like the Heisenberg theory of food, right?
We can point to where it is, but not how fast it got there,
or we can point to how fast it's going, but not where it is, right?
So, for instance, around the time of the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904,
which is the one that it was credited with inventing the ice cream cone,
puffed rice, and jello.
Yeah.
People also claim that the first hamburger was made there.
Yeah.
But from the St. Louis Globe Democrat, I found this.
Quote, in St. Louis, I've heard from, I've, yeah, in St. Louis, I've heard from a person
whose grandparents, or whose parents or grandparents came from the southern regions of
Germany say that northern Germans in the city of Hamburg were much given to eating ground
meat, even in the distant past.
Other Germans disapproved of the Hamburg.
ground meat freaks, especially the hamburg types who liked raw ground meat.
So the St. Louis Germans may have named the sandwich hamburger as a derisive gesture
toward the barbaric ground meat gobblers in the city of Hamburg.
It is certain that the people of Hamburg never got around to making a ground meat sandwich.
If they did, it never caught on over there.
So maybe not.
Maybe not.
Now, others claim that in an 1885 Erie County Fair in Buffalo, New York, it was born out of a lack of Polish sausage and minced meats that were being sold by two brothers named the Menches.
Okay.
As in he's a good minch.
Yeah, yeah.
So the brothers Mench or the Munches were making Polish sausages and minced meats and they ran out.
So they went to a butcher nearby, and the butcher was like, well, I don't want to butcher any more pigs this year.
So here's some ground beef for cheap.
And then they added coffee and brown sugar to make the meat taste less bland.
Okay.
Now, one of the first things to go with this has always been grilled onions and ketchup.
Yeah.
And that was added to these hamburgers, named for the other name of the Erie County Fair.
It was also called the Hamburg Fair.
Okay.
So some people hang their hat on that origin story, but I was not done.
So others made credible claims because I kept finding like and it's like oh yeah but also and I'm just like Jesus Christ this is like I'm watching clue but for hamburgers
so others make credible claims such as they are there was a fellow out in Wisconsin in 1885 who flattened out a hamburger steak and put bread around it to get people to eat it on the go during a fair there he can he called it the hamburger Charlie
Okay
Athens, Texas also tries to claim similar origins from a restaurant in 1889
Okay
Either way, Aden has never tasted a true hamburger as we know it
This would be true
Right? Yeah
Now his turning happens during the American Revolution and this means he really doesn't know the taste of certain alcohols
halls plenty of desserts although ice cream did exist back before he was turned um that also showed up
that recipe also showed up in glasses book and yes i bought that book um okay now to me that little
mundane part the thing about like he's eating a hamburger and enjoying it for the first time and i
don't really like i'm not that guy who's like i want a hamburger everywhere i go like i yeah hamburger's a
hamburger like hard to fuck it up um good when it's good but like i can i can go months without a hamburger
and be fine right yeah um the thing is this was the thing that meant being human to me this little
mundane part where he's aging at the rate of 40 to 50 years a day and he's sitting down and
enjoying the hamburger to me this is like the the being human vampire equivalent to you know the monk who
gets chased by the tiger and he runs out and he falls off of a branch and it falls and it
catches on the cliff and the only thing holding him up is like a strawberry vine and the tiger
is swiping at him and he looks down below and there's alligators down below or you know
crocodiles down below and what does the monk do he reaches up and eats the most perfect strawberry
he ever ate like this had that same kind of vibe to me right
Aiden enjoyed the mundane joys of being human, and we can easily port that over to the addiction, too.
When he was fiending on his addiction, he could enjoy nothing simple or mundane.
It was long bouts of withdrawal, short bursts of relapse, but now that he's physically free of his addiction.
Clearly not mentally so, because he's trying to get back to it, he could actually sit down and enjoy a simple meal accessible to almost anyone.
Anyway, Aden's dying
So his humanity is incredibly short-lived
Aden eventually takes on the evil spirit of the house
Who's a 12-year-old who was sacrificed in their house in the 70s
For some weird fucking cult
And in the process he burns down the entire house to the ground
Okay
Just before he does, the spirit hurls him down the stairs
And he crushes his skull
Which is the same way that we'll find out that Sally dies
And as Aiden lays dying
He throws his lighter
at the gasoline, he spread throughout the house
and he emulates the house.
Nora and Josh come home to find
the house to be completely burned down.
They're in some ways free of the house,
free of the spirit, but they're also sad
because of it.
And then they see Aden sitting there on the stairs.
He's a ghost.
Now the thing about vampires is
they don't get their door.
A ghost will get a door.
Okay.
When somebody dies,
if they have cleared up all their shit in their mind,
they get to go through their door pretty quickly.
Your door appears, you go through.
If not, you stay a ghost kind of on this plane
until you figure your shit out, work it out,
and then you can get your door, right?
It shows up when you're ready, essentially.
Aden lived his whole life knowing that he was not going to get a door.
Right.
He knew ghosts, you know, he's a monster.
You can see, you know, ghosts and shit like that.
He knew he wasn't going to get a door.
That's the price of immortality, right?
It's the price of living as a vampire.
Because even if he gets staked, you just turn to dust.
There's no fucking ghost vampires.
Right, right, right.
You're just done, right?
You're off the mortal coil.
Right.
He gets his ghost or he gets his door because there's nothing left for him to work through.
He dies.
Yeah.
Fulfilled?
Yeah, well, as a human.
Yeah.
And as a healthy human.
as a human who has figured out all his shit,
which means the addiction is let him go.
Right.
And you remember Sally had like sacrificed herself
to his rectum, she's actually on the other side of the door.
And he finds her smiling and waiting for him on the other end
and they were dead happily ever after.
Nice.
Yeah.
So that's Aiden's arc.
That's fucking heavy, man.
It is.
It is.
It's, it's really hard to talk about his arc while leaving out the others.
Like you, they're so intertwined because it's how, yeah, all of the ways that you were like,
okay, and we're going to come back to that.
And so put a pin in that for now.
Yeah, I run out of pins, you know?
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
But I really wanted to just focus on Aden's reactions because it, it's so clearly addict to me.
Yeah.
It's so clearly opioid addict.
Right.
And just the enjoyment of the hamburger.
Which was not invented until long after he turned.
It just, yeah, there's just something so beautifully mundane about that to me.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
All right.
Anyway, next episode we'll talk about Josh, which is an exploration of meth.
That'll be fun.
And lycanthropy.
So.
Okay.
What have you gleaned so far?
Well, first and foremost, I've gleaned that I really do need to figure out how to, how to
watch this show.
It's on Amazon.
Okay.
Good to know.
With commercials, but fuck him.
As my daughter pointed out, she's like, you're going to get a lot of wet, wet AMD
commercials, like, macular degeneration commercials.
Oh.
So.
All right.
Yeah.
That seems to be what popped up a lot for us, at least.
Weird.
Yeah.
So.
Huh.
But yes, you do need to watch it.
It's amazing.
And the next thing that occurs to me is the ways that the lore
surrounding the supernaturals that are involved here
without getting into anything about werewolves yet.
Right.
The werewolves and vampires don't get along thing
is a modern invention that has now,
become a standard trope yes it has to be addressed one way or the other yeah yeah and um
I find the choices that the writers made and and a lot of those choices were made by
the by the people that wrote the British series and were just poured it over but I I find it
interesting the choices that were made about what are the limitations of vampires in
this in this universe in this version of the lore sure you know um and and that's just you know
kind of nerding out on all that but yeah i mean you've you've kind of uh covered kind of
soup to nuts everything there is about the the allegory for addiction involved so there's
no whole lot else for me to say like it's it's now it's now inescapable and like like
well yeah
kind of
kind of you know
you know and Sam Whitwer
actually said that like you know
the vampire is clearly a
cut out for
sexual addiction and or heroin
addiction like it was kind of both
yeah you know
yeah and I think it opens up more
to opioid addiction ultimately because
yeah well in the end the way
the way everything
yeah kind of goes
yeah
Oh, and just, you know, Sam Whitwer being awesome is, you know, something to take away.
But, yeah, again, I just come back to, I really need to watch the whole series so I can, I can have more commentary, I guess.
I don't know how your wife is about blood horror and, like, you know, that kind of violence that goes with it.
Not good on it, not good.
It's such a good series.
Oh, I'm sure.
Like, I'm sure.
But it's, it's another one that I'm going to have to figure out how to watch on my own.
Yeah, I know.
Because there's, there is a lot of, like, there's a lot of romance to it.
There's a lot of relationship stuff in there.
There's a lot of really, like, and there's a lot of interaction between people.
Yes, it's punctuated by, you know, shows of violence.
Hideous, hideous horrific violence.
Yeah.
Often, yeah.
Um, but like, God damn, it's good, man.
so yeah cool well um let's see what do you want people to read or watch or imbibe um well in in the
spirit of talking about series that we're on the sci-fi channel or sci-fi in in a case of
being human i'm going to very strongly recommend folks uh look for and try to find i'm not sure
where it can be streamed right now uh but look for farscape uh because
it is mind-blowing and amazing both in terms of kind of what it does with a lot of science fiction tropes
and what the Jim Henson studios were able to accomplish using practical effects and and puppetry.
You know, it is, it is currently on Hulu.
Okay.
So if you have the Disney app, I think you're going to get to it that way.
Yeah.
It probably has commercials, but that's fine.
That's worth it.
It's a thousand percent worth it.
If only to see Claudia Black.
If only.
But yes, there is that and a whole lot else as well.
Because they managed to create a coherent but remarkably alien universe really well.
So, yeah, that's going to be my recommendation.
What about you?
I'm going to recommend.
I don't know if I recommended this last week or not.
I feel like I might have.
Can't Find My Way by Martin Torgoff.
I think you did, but we can get it recommended again.
I still recommend it again.
It's that good.
Largely for Chapter 1, because it talks about the best place that you could listen to jazz music in like the 1930s was this rehab facility in Tennessee.
It was like a methadone clinic practically.
So,
Wow.
Tell you what,
instead of that one,
I'm going to recommend the cookbook
that I actually was talking about earlier.
You can get it for like five bucks.
It's not the printing from 1758.
I think it's from like the late 1700s
because multiple editions went out.
But the art of cookery made plain by,
last name was Glass,
Hannah Glass.
Um, so the art of cookery, um, made plain and made plain and easy.
Let me get the, the full title for you.
Uh, the,
uh, the,
uh, here it is.
Uh, the art of cookery made plain and easy, excelling anything of the kind yet published,
containing.
And then it's like a list of all the shit.
And then also the order of a bill of fare for each,
month in the manner the dishes are to be placed upon the table in the present taste oh wow all right
yeah yeah it's a in that 18th century tradition of um i have to fill up the title page with
something right so it's going to be the title yeah yeah yeah it's yeah it's fun but yeah i recommend
that book um uh yeah it's it's got recipes for
hamburgers well not hamburg sausages yeah but also like all kinds of other weird shit and and the
thing is i don't know who decided how recipes should be written yeah but i'm so glad that they
decided it before i was born because this woman's way of writing down the recipe is like what the
fuck are we doing it's like watching it's like it's like reading a modern recipe online yeah it's like
you know yeah and as we're you know as as you're looking for the brown sugar please remember the
song that was written by the rolling stones and you're like what the fuck just could you tell me how
much i don't even care if you're going to say a dash that's fine like yeah tell me stuff but like
i need i need measurements i need yeah but yeah check out that cookbook it's fun it's like five
bucks you can you can spare five bucks all right nice so cool very cool well uh where can we be found
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that you know Damien's exhaustive research
into the development of meat grinders
in the early 20th century deserves.
Oh, no, no, mid-19th century.
Oh, sorry.
Yes.
Sorry, my bad.
Yes, in the mid-19th century.
Damien, you're only allowed to use eight sources for this paper.
So, yeah, give us the five-star review that you know his obsessive research habits have earned us.
And, yeah, where can you be found, sir, other than the research library?
Well, just remember, the research is because I don't have the talent at writing that you do.
So I have to make up for it.
Okay, I'll take the compliment.
Yeah, with discipline.
Right.
So.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, wow.
Okay.
I resemble that remark, yeah.
Let's see, let's try December 5th at 9 p.m. at the comedy spot in Sacramento.
I think this will come out before that.
me and the crew at Capital Punishment
will be slinging puns
it's going to be a banger of a show
we always try to make our winter shows
that much better to get you in
out of the cold and to send you home
and you can smell the pine when you get home
remembering the puns
because it's December you're going to have
Christmas Christmas
Anyway but yeah December 5th
and January 2nd I think
I will put you on to the tail of those
go to satcommodyspot.com, grab your tickets there, $15 bucks.
Get them online so you don't have to wait for them to be on will call at the door or what have you.
And that's, yeah, that's about it.
So for a geek history of time, I'm Damien Harmony.
And I'm Ed Blaylock.
And until next time, keep rolling 20s.
