A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Does Pineapple Belong on Pizza?

Episode Date: March 4, 2020

In our premiere episode, Josh and Nicole get to the bottom of what exactly defines a pizza, and if pineapple is an acceptable topping. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. In 1962 in Western Ontario, Canada, Sam Panopoulos lit the fuse in the most heated culinary debate of our time with the invention of a seemingly harmless culinary creation. Today, we're still searching for answers. Does pineapple belong on pizza? This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what?

That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the podcast where we take on the internet's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Scherer. I am a cookbook author, food journalist, mythical chef, and I once ate so much firecracker shrimp at a Hokkaido seafood buffet that I threw up in the bathroom sink. firecracker shrimp at a Hokkaido seafood buffet that I threw up in the bathroom sink.

The janitor was right outside, actually, and I walked out and he just saw the shame in my eyes. And I'm your other host, Nicole Hendizadeh. I am a food stylist. I've worked as a research and development chef for different CPG companies. I am a culinary instructor for kids and adults, but I prefer teaching kids. And I also work as a culinary producer for Mythical Entertainment. Wait, is that why you treat me like a child all the time? Because you're used to working with kids? It definitely helps when I work with you. Yeah, you have excellent patience. I really do. And it often gets tested. Oh, it's so much. Yeah. And I have to take many bathroom breaks and I need my handheld for a lot of things. Okay. So the podcast, we should do the podcast. Yeah, I think so. Okay, so we should probably explain the name first. A hot dog is a sandwich and where that comes from.

Well, first of all, do you think a hot dog is a sandwich? Some days I do, some days I don't. Like Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, a hot dog is sandwiches. Wednesday, Friday, nah. Maybe it depends on like when was the most recent time I ate a hot dog. Maybe? I don't know. When it's like freshest in your mind and you're just like,

mmm, sandwiches in my mouth. Exactly. Okay, so the point is like, I don't know if a hot dog is a sandwich. No one knows if a hot dog is a sandwich. The whole point is that it's an unwinnable debate. It's if a tree falls in the forest and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound? When I was a kid, I had that exact answer.

The sound waves. But no, I mean, you could argue the hot dog is a sandwich thing endlessly. Like, well, it's its own specific thing. So it has its own set of rules. So you wouldn't call it a sandwich.

It's not two slices of bread, but then Subway only has one slice of bread and they're the biggest sandwich. It's completely endless. So to me, it like represents everything pure and beautiful

about the internet food debates. It's just people screaming at each other through their keyboards back and forth with no winner in sight. And that's what we're going to do with every single episode here. So you and me screaming at each other, and then we're going to come out of this. We're really going to have to do a lot of work to repair our working relationship. Sounds like a regular Thursday, Josh. What's the biggest fight we've gotten in a work?

Um, oh my gosh. It was a bucket. It was about the bucket. Okay. No, the first fight we had was in a work um oh my god it was a bucket it was about the bucket okay no the first fight we had was about a bucket it's about a bucket we okay so we need we needed a place to throw away our old fry oil i was like nicole we got to get a bucket with a lid and she was like no we got to get a sparklets container and then this like we had a sparklets container with a funnel see the whole why but if you have a bucket you don't need a funnel then we're just adding extra funnel budget we don't have any room to keep a funnel anyways the topic we will be discussing today does pineapple belong on pizza i said that dramatically i realized i already said it at the beginning of the show yeah does pineapple belong on pizza

starring dwayne the rock johnson who by the way he's such a good comic relief yeah by the dwayne the rock johnson he is an avid proponent of pineapple on pizza that That's awesome. Do you think it's because he grew up in Hawaii? He grew up in Hawaii. Yeah. I think he's Samoan. Yeah. But his reasoning was, I'm also the person who puts tequila on pancakes, I think. Which like, that's a whole other debate.

Does tequila go with pancakes? The answer is always yes. If it's tequila, it doesn't go with anything. Yeah. Live your life. Pretty much. Have fun. Pineapple on pizza,'s tequila, it doesn't go with anything. Yeah. Live your life. Pretty much. Have fun. Pineapple on pizza.

Where do you stand? I love pineapple on pizza. I will eat pineapple on pizza. I actually was raised on pineapple on pizza. Is it a Persian delicacy? No. Is it offensive if I ask you that every time you say you like a food? But there's a fly and I want to get it.

You see him? Oh, no. Oh, no. You got it. I got it i got it don't high five me okay so and on the jeans where i wipe literally everything yeah i know so uh when i grew up um we didn't eat like pepperoni or ham or sausage or salami so it was typically either cheese mushroom and olive or when you really wanted to get fancy with it it was

onion jalapeno, and pineapple. So it's like more of a nostalgic taste more than anything else. But I will eat pineapple on pizza without any sort of discretion. I love it. I'm a big fan of it. I'm a big fan too. I mean, we've eaten pineapple on pizza together. The last time we ate pizza together, it was a late night in the office.

And we had ordered from Big Mamas and Papas. Shout out to Big Mamas and Papas, best pizza mini chain in the valley. We had ordered a pineapple, onion, and jalapeno. And we took the pizza and we held it, both of us, over the trash can. Very large mouth trash can. And we drizzled ranch and hot sauce over it and ate it. Which to a lot of people is sacrilege. Again, to us, it's a Tuesday at work.

Yeah, sounds like a regular work day for me so yeah i mean i i love pineapple and pizza you get that little hit of sweetness you know and then juicy it's juicy it's juicy it's nice it kind of like it's a little flavor plop explosion in your mouth um but that's not the question it's not do you enjoy pineapple on pizza it's just pineapple belong on pizza because how many things do you eat that you could say like i eat this i enjoy it i don't know if it belongs together and that's not to say that you shouldn't eat things that don't belong to like if it makes you happy to put skittles in your cheeseburger put skittles in your cheeseburger yeah you should also go to jail the way that's

another conversation you should at least like you should at least like get checked out yeah because you know sometimes like um if there's a story of like oh i don't know where this is going this is probably not gonna you know sometimes like if there's a story of like, oh, I don't know where this is going. This is probably not gonna be scientifically accurate. You know, there's like stories of like pregnant women like eating dirt. Yeah, it's called pica. Yeah, pica, but it's like your body realizes that it doesn't have a certain nutrient.

Cause it needs nutrients, yeah. Yeah, so it could be like the same thing as Skittles. Maybe they have a citric acid and corn syrup deficiency and they need more. Does your body naturally produce corn syrup? Yeah, when I cut myself, I bleed corn syrup just based on the more does your body naturally produce corn syrup yeah when i cut myself i bleed corn syrup just based on the amount of corn pops i eat it's a beautiful breakfast cereal oh that's disgusting okay so does pineapple actually belong on pizza yeah

but who gets to say what belongs on pizza like does everyone does everyone own the rights to pizza like has pizza come so far now? Because pizza, lest we not forget, it's an Italian food. No, you're right. It was invented in Italy. We could talk all day about different flatbreads covering things because Persian pizza is a big thing. It's not a big thing, but it's a thing that exists.

But if you put Gorma Sabzi on pizza, some people might fight you. That sounds delicious. Some people put cavolo on pizza, they might fight you. God, I would eat that. I haven't tried it personally, but I know Pizzanista does it, right? Yeah. In downtown LA, does Persian pizza. But like, I don't know.

I don't think those, do I know if those flavors work together? Maybe. I mean, people are buying it, so it must be good to somebody. True. Same goes for pineapples. To me, like, you have to look at the history Of pizza And like how it evolved Do you have to though No I'm just saying

You We don't have to do any of this This is all pointless But I love doing it It's like the history of pizza To me you have to look at it Through an Italian lens Because it all comes from like

Ancient Rome right They made like Italian They didn't make Italian things They were Roman In ancient Rome Like they made flatbreads That were covered Is it Rome and Italy

Well like Rome was like A big old empire That like spanned a lot of things but now rome is yeah they still have like a lot of you know regional pride and like things that date back there like the etruscan empire was big on making flatbreads covered with stuff and then like pizza did things i don't know the point is to me italy like owns pizza in a way to me italian people get to tell me what belongs on pizza so like if an italian man comes up to me and just goes i can't i'm not gonna to me italian people get to tell me what belongs on pizza so like if an italian man comes up to me and just goes i can't i'm not gonna do the italian no no no no no but i want to no no no so bad how about you just go like make your voice a lower register so like josh is this

this voice if an italian man comes up to me and goes like no you may not put pineapple on your pizza that was morpheus from the matrix actually you can take the red pill or the blue pill your life will never be the same if an italian person comes up to me and tells me like pineapple does not go on pizza i'll be like oh dude i agree with you i'm sorry i'm still gonna eat it that's one italian person no i i lived with two italian roommates gabriele y aless. And one literally got fired from an Italian restaurant because he refused to grate Parmesan cheese

on someone's fish. He was like, no, cheese doesn't go on fish. Someone asked him for red wine with fish. And I kind of respect that. I kind of understand that, but you work at a restaurant and you know, it's the service industry. You're servicing the people at your restaurant. Yeah, no, that's why he got fired. His name is Alessandro? No, that was Gabriele. you're servicing the people at your restaurant yeah no that's why he got fired he lost the money

uh no that was gabriella gabriella gabriella you gotta be nicer to people that's how you get tips okay you can't deny people like parmesan on their fish just let it happen i wish you would have done your dishes more as well it really became a problem in our roommate relationship you seem like you're doing well now though what what are are you doing? What are you doing, Gabriella? What are you doing? I think he started his own production company. Good for him. Anyways, I really respect cultures

that have rules about their food. They take it very seriously because I think, you know, a big problem in American culture, that's where this is going. The problem in American culture, Nicole, is the kids are on TikTok and they're shaking their stuff.

Eating Tide Pods. Eating Tide Pods. No, but like American culture, you know, I didn't grow up with any sort of heritage or food. Like we ate rice-a-roni every single night. And I kind of wish that I had some sort of like food culture to hang on to where I could say like, no, like you can't put fenugreek in gourmet sabzi. You do though.

No, yeah, I guess that's one of the main ingredients that makes it. But the point is like I wish that there was, you know, some sort of root that you could hold on to to kind of like give yourself it makes the the food more important at that point i think you not having a root is a good thing that's how you get to create all these crazy things and that's why you're the mythical chef josh you are i think that also that also gives me a lot of shame though no you know what are you talking about i Like me putting, I made a peanut, I made a peanut butter and jelly pizza and put grapes on it. You put grapes on it

and it was delicious. The agrodolce. But I'm imagining all these fictional Italian men screaming at me and women. You, I don't know why. I don't either,

but I don't think you should. That's my stress stream. I don't think you should care so much about what people think about what you eat. I think you should enjoy it. And I if you enjoy it it is pizza bam any food you enjoy is pizza no anything you put on a pizza if you enjoy it like it's right like there's no wrong way it's a canvas on which all the flavors can meld like pizza pizza is it's such an important food to the history of italy and there's like so much

locked up in that. Like there's this, I mean one, the margarita pizza, right? You know the whole myth about it. It was for like

Italian unification and the chef made the colors red, white, and green for the queen or whatever. Her name was Margarita. Yeah.

So like, you know, this stuff, like there's no food that's really locked up in like the American history myths like that, you know, for history myths like that you know for

italy like rice rice aroni the san francisco treat that famously ended the san francisco oakland war of 1935 no but there's like no kind of history locked up you know in that in like the american story but like for italy like there's literally a food that united the whole nation of course like it's all complete bs and and the pizza existed before that. Yeah, whatever. But I don't know. To me, there's something powerful and beautiful about that. And to me, it makes the food even more important to have that story. This is all marketing, man.

It's like to have the power behind the food, to me, makes it taste better. But that said, when it's late at night and I just need cheap sustenance, I'm getting a pizza covered in pineapple and I'm just squiggling sauce all over it. And I will unapologetically dip pizza in ranch. There's people that don't even know that people dip pizza in ranch at all. I literally saw on Twitter, someone was like, what do you mean dip pizza?

And I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean dip pizza? It's the best way to eat pizza. Every bite gets ranched. The one thing I think we need to talk about is what is pizza? What is it? Pizza. What do you think pizza is josh pizza is love pizza is a crust made with 11 item yeast whatever baking powder who puts

baking powder in their pizza no one no one you made the yeast um and then you put sauce on it and then you put cheese on it and then you put toppings on it. I think you need to open your mind, man, and just expand your, you know, your judgments and your placements and just eat a pizza with whatever you want on it and just savor it and not care about what everyone else thinks. I can't do literally anything without overthinking it. I don't know why you care so much. I think every food should be overthought to the point where you don't even enjoy it anymore. What's the point of that? No, I'm totally kidding. Pizza is an enjoyment food. But when you talk about the definition

of pizza, if you take any sort of leavened flatbread and you put stuff on top of it, does that necessarily make it a pizza? Because there's other cultures. It's a flatbread. But then can you call it a pizza? If we put pineapple on a pizza, do you even call it pizza anymore? What if we're all just eating pineapple flatbreads out there? We're not. Gas. We're eating pineapple pizza. But like, okay, so in Naples, right?

You've seen the signs like at pizza places in LA. It's Associazione Verano Napoletana Pizza. The AVPN. We have cards. I haven't used these cards at all. AVP, Josh. AVPN. The AVPN is the porn awards.

No, it's not. What? No. I thought it was. So there's like the AVPN, Josh. AVPN. The AVPN is the porn awards. No, it's not. What? No. I thought it was. So there's like the AVPN, right? And we have a list of their standards that they define pizza as. And again, I kind of agree with them because to me, pizza was invented in Naples. They have the ability to define pizza.

We have the stats here if you want to go ahead and say what they are. You say. You read one. I read the other. Okay. AVPN standards. Number one, wood-fired oven. Number two, must be cooked between 60 and

90 seconds. The temperature of the wood-fired oven must be 806 degrees Fahrenheit to 896 degrees Fahrenheit. The pizza must be 13.8 inches wide. Must use yeast. No sourdough starter. That's weird. That's weird because I love sourdough crusts on pizza.

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to take a cue from my favorite podcast. Last podcast on the left. Que bonum, Nicole. What? Que bonum. Who benefits? Oh no, I didn't. Please don't tell HR.

Who, who benefits from creating these standards of pizza though? Because like that to me, to me, if they did this. The AVPN. Yeah, no, literally. I mean, they charge a bunch of money yeah to get the cert the certification yeah but like the way i was kind of looking at this initially was like they're trying to only preserve you know the legacy of pizza and all that so they're doing this for the benefit of pizza they don't want the the pizza quality across the world to get watered down. And then suddenly this beautiful Italian food is just turned to crap.

It's turned to us holding it over a garbage can drizzling ranch on it. But this no sourdough starter thing. It's kind of great. What I'm worked up about the AVPN, I agree that they should preserve, you know, the humility of pizza, if you will. But if I were to go and get a pizza

from a place that has the certification, and if I were to put a Domino's pizza in front of you, would you call them both pizza? Josh? I mean, yeah. Yeah, but one of them has a certification, one of them doesn't. Now, is pineapple anywhere listed on this? One of them has the delivery tracker app.

Josh, do you see pineapple anywhere on this? No, they would definitely not approve of pineapple. But it, but we can see here that there is nothing that states the toppings on top of the pizza. So therein, put pineapple on your pizza. Bam,

mic dropped. My favorite, my favorite YouTube video of all time is it's pranking, pranking Neapolitans by giving them pineapple on pizza.

Yeah, I've seen it before. It's great. It's incredible. The guy, he goes to like the most famous pizzer them pineapple on pizza. Yeah, I've seen it before. It's great. It's incredible. The guy, he goes to like the most famous pizzeria in Naples. And then he like delivers pizzas to people that just ordered margarita or whatever. And he has a giant ring of pineapple on it. And they're all like, what are you doing?

This is Naples. Pizza was born here. How dare you spit on the culture? Your ancestors would rise from the grave. They get so incredibly worked up about it. One woman physically assaults this man for serving her pineapple and pizza and to me if if someone has opinions that strong about it so many times in debates when someone's just like they obviously feel a lot more strongly about it i'll be like yeah cool no you you got it i shouldn't even be talking about

this you know josh i'm gonna level with you here maybe they're just mad that uh the person that delivered the pizza uh was wrong and put pineapple on it because they just wanted a regular ass pizza did you ever stop to think of that you spit on my culture whatever just eat you know what i believe if people tried it and had an open mind and like really gave it a shot, they'd probably love it. Yeah. I really do think that. I do think there is something to the idea of food authenticity, right? Like people all talk about, you know, is this authentic Mexican food?

Flour tortillas are another great thing where people are talking about flour tortillas aren't authentic Mexican food. Of course they are. There's a whole town like Sonora, Mexico that makes this beautiful white stunning flour that's made for tortillas. Yeah. Like in Sonora, they've been growing wheat there for, you know, 500 years. Yes. And making flour tortillas for about as long. Sure.

So it's like, how long does it take for a food to become authentic? If you talk to anyone from Sonora or Baja, California too, they're like, yeah, dude, flour tortillas are absolutely authentic. I grew up eating these. How are you going to tell me that they're not? So at some point, pineapple on pizza is going to become authentic pizza. When do you think that's going to happen? No matter what. I'm going to think that's going to happen? No matter what.

I'm going to think it's going to happen in the year 2035. Because I thought about this and I did a couple calculations on my iPhone calculator. Here's the theory. Okay. 1889, supposedly, when the margarita pizza was invented. Okay. Right? Start of modern pizza culture.

1962. This is their pizza in the middle of the table. 1889, margarita pizza invented. 1962, Hawaiian pizza invented. Pineapple, ham, delicious. We all know it and love it. 73 year gap. 73 years from 1962 is the year 2035.

That is when pineapple on pizza will fully become indoctrinated into the minds of everybody and they will finally accept it. If you call me January 1st, what is it, 2035? Yeah. And if you put a pineapple pizza in front of me, I'll eat it. But if you also do the same thing, if you call me tomorrow and put a pineapple pizza in front of me, I'm going to eat it. And so are you.

I fully agree with that. I fully agree with that. I will eat pineapple pizza. Like from a culinary perspective, it just works. It does. Especially with a salty, spicy cured meat. Absolutely it does. Even without, well, I was raised without the cured meat, but I'll have it with him now.

Yeah. I'll have it with. Cheese is salty. Crust is chewy. Yeah. Pineapple, delicious, fruity. Especially if you get a little bit of char on it. Yeah.

It's phenomenal. What a fantastic treat. Another thing that people talk about is like, well, if you're just scooping pineapple straight out of the can and throwing it on pizza, it sucks. It's like, yeah. If you drain it well. Yeah. But like.

You got to drain it. The point is any food made badly is bad food. I agree. Any food made with craft and attention is delicious. That's another thing. We just need more like bomb pineapple on pizza champions. Like round table pizza and their, what's it called? I don't know.

They have like a silly name for it. It's like the. I don't know. Luau? It's something like that. The grass girl? Flying Hawaiian or something. I don't remember. The Alo? It's something like that. The grass girl? Flying Hawaiian or something. I don't remember.

The Aloha Oi. That'd be good. Yeah. No, with Zach Pollock at Cosa Buona. He's making a really crafty pineapple pizza. Shout out to Cosa Buona. I still haven't been there yet. He makes his own prosciutto cotto.

Oh my God. And he does half smoked mozzarella. So you get like the smokiness with the sweetness and saltiness from the ham. Oh, that sounds delicious. The whole blistered charred crust. It's great. That sounds great.

It sounds, it's the same vein as getting a Domino's pizza or a Pizza Hut pizza with the same exact craft, love, and intention as Cozumelana.

Domino's puts a lot, Domino's did a great thing. They, in like 2008 or something, they put out this giant survey to all of their, all their fans. What do they call them?

I've been on the internet for too long. Everyone's a fan. Dominators. The dominatrixes. Domino's put out a survey to all the dominatrices. All the doms out there.

And they were just like, what could we do better? And people were like, well, your crust kind of sucks and it tastes like nothing. And they like fixed everything. Domino's slaps these days. Intention.

That's intention. Yeah, and that's why they're a multi-million, possibly billion dollar company. I don't know how money works. Me either. I have no idea how money works. Do you know what the word escrow means? Oh my gosh. When your house is in escrow, that means the bank owns it?

I don't know. Why are you looking at me? I have no idea. I'm not a real adult. I discuss pizza on the internet. I'm a real adult. I haven't even started paying my student loans. I'm 26. God. I don't know what to do. I don no idea. I'm not a real adult. I discuss pizza on the internet. Do you think I'm a real adult? I haven't even started paying my student loans. I'm 26.

God. I don't know what to do. I don't know. Keep talking about pizza. Eat pizza and it all gets better. I want to know why he, San Panopolis, wherever you are. Should have been Pineapolis. Is he?

Oh, he's dead. He died recently. No, it was like a happy death. Oh. What's a happy death? Well, he lived a full life. You know, happy death oh like he was what's the happy death like he like lived a full life you know it's not like he was like he i just want to know what inspired him to put like ham with it well so pizza didn't get really big in north america until like 1940s or something when people were coming back from world war ii uh and then around that same time

is when the u.s annexed hawaii and so there this big, like weird, like luau fetishization culture. And so people were putting pineapple in everything. There's the, you know the McDonald's Filet-O-Fish story? No, I'd love to hear it though. So they were like trying to appeal to Catholics, Ray Kroc. Oh yes, I do know, I do know. For Lent or for Friday, Saturdays? I don't know, we're Jewish, we don't know about the other.

We're not allowed to eat a lot of stuff on Friday. I think on Saturday you're not allowed to eat know that stuff we're not allowed to eat a lot of stuff on Friday I think on Saturday you're not allowed to eat on Friday you're not allowed to eat meat and that dates back to an old papal decree

to try and stimulate the Italian fishing economy a lot of galaxy brain stuff here so that's why fish on Friday is a big thing especially for Catholics McDonald's trying to

capitalize on that and so Ray Kroc was like guys I have the best idea for a meatless option it's called I think it was like the luau burger or something but it was literally a slice of pineapple with American cheese in between a bun and then some guy was like what if we just made a fish sandwich and

he was like that's stupid people love pineapple and cheese so that could have been the initial outrage but there was like this culture like when a bunch of tiki bars started opening up and so like pineapple was this new exotic fruit coming from this big you know uh vacation sure exotic destination and so yeah so like what better way to introduce it to america than this like other new budding exotic food that's delicious and just stretchy and cheesy and carby all right let's see what other people have to say about pizza uh jimmy kimmel do you know about jimmy kimmel's food habits no i don't the dude keeps like three sous vide machines in his office. He is the ultimate food snob.

So you can imagine how he's going to feel. Pineapples do not belong in... Can I do a Jimmy Kimmel impression? What does he sound like? Yeah, I'm Jimmy Kimmel. How about Jimmy Kimmel? Pineapples don't belong on a pizza. He kind of sounds like he has a little bit of a nasal

and his inflections are kind of like Obama, but like not really. Pineapples do not belong on pizza. I don't care where you're from. Any pizza that tastes better with pineapple wasn't a good pizza. It's not even a pizza. It's like a pizza colada. Okay, just so you guys know, that's a Jimmy Kimmel impersonation.

That is not a Barack Obama impersonation. No, that was pure Kimmel. That was pure Obama. Were you not getting pure Kimmel from that? No, I'm so sorry. That was 100% Barack Obama. Okay, wait, here's the thing. Any pizza that tastes better with pineapple wasn't a good pizza.

I think that's unfair. That's not true. Jimothy Kimmel. Jimothy Kimmela. Yeah, no, you can, if you're crafting it to be a pineapple pizza, that's the thing. You can't throw pineapple on after the fact. No, you need to let it bake into the cheese. Yeah, you need to have intention to make a pineapple pizza. That's the thing. You can't throw pineapple on after the fact. No. You need to let it bake into the cheese. Yeah. You need to have intention

to make a pineapple pizza like Pollock at Cosa Buona with the smoked matz and that like crafty crafty ham. Yeah. So I don't think that's true. I'll do this one. Thomas Middleditch who I have no idea who that person is. What? Oh Silicon Valley. He's the Verizon or AT&T or whatever. Oh

the can you hear me now guy? No, I don't know. I don't know. As a kid, I didn't get it. Now I fully understand. What a treat. What a treat, Pineapple is. Thomas, you understand what I'm saying.

And I really love that about you. I'm going to watch your show, Silicon Valley and the AT&T commercials. I promise. I agree with him. As a kid, I didn't get it. It's because your palate becomes more refined. When I was a kid, kid i hated mustard i would retch at the idea of eating mustard and now i'm like i'm gonna put slap some dijon on what on this cuban sandwich i don't know and i'll enjoy it i think your taste evolves the older you get yeah but most of the time it like evolves to acquire like a bitter flavor palette right but this dude's just's just like, sugar pizza. Sugar pizza now, baby.

No, there's something really beautiful and pure about this. Like now I understand. What a treat. What a treat, pineapple. That exemplifies everything a pizza should be. Pizza should be a treat. Pizza is a treat.

But also pizza should be a treat with strict rules that I'm very shameful about. You can read the next one. Okay, Paris Hilton. I actually like it. I love Hawaiian pizza. I think it's really hot. Okay. She said, I think it's really good. pizza. I think it's really hot.

Okay. She said, I think it's really good. Not, I think it's really hot. Okay. I stan Paris. I stan Paris. I love you, Paris. I agree with you 1 million percent. I'm on your wavelength, Paris.

You seen Paris Hilton's lasagna cooking video? Have I? I want her to come on our show and cook with us. Yeah. And my cook just stand there while I kind of like float around her and do the things for her. With her fingerless gloves? Yeah, I'll just help her. I'll be like, Paris, Paris, take that.

She just complains about literally everything in the recipe? I love her. I don't know why we have the noodles you have to boil that's not hot. I'm a big fan of hers. I guess I'll do it. Yeah, I trust Paris. Paris is now a food authority in my book. Yeah.

Because she made that fantastic lasagna cooking video. Yeah, I trust her more than food, God. True. Justin Trudeau, I have a pineapple. I have a pizza. And I stand behind this delicious southwestern Ontario creation. Hashtag team pineapple. Political pandering.

Just because it was from Ontario? No, no, no. He's trying to get southwestern ontario votes to win the next election so we can keep putting fluoride in the water and brainwashing people wake the fudge up people oh we started saying fudging instead of the actual word because trevor taught us to uh not curse as much as we should thank you trevor our souls feel cleaner yeah you are our hero. It's a home court victory for him.

I get it. I get it. We take political pride in things. I think he's doing what he has to do. I don't think politicians have any real feelings or likes or dislikes. I think they are only saying what they need to do to get votes. But that's interesting that he, you know,

was fully on that side because it can be a divisive topic. I think he's just trying to unify Canada because, you know, Canada's on that side because it can be a divisive topic. I think he's just trying to unify Canada because, you know, Canada's real split up right now, man. Trying to unify the Canadians up there. No, Canadian politics. If we know anything more than pizza, it's Canadian politics.

I know nothing about Canadian politics. All right, Justin Bieber. Pineapple on pizza is good. You guys don't like that. There we go, J. Biebs. Pineapple on pizza is yummy, yummy, yummy. Yummy, yummy, yummy. That song sucks.

I kind of like it now. I heard it so much and now I love it. Justin Bieber, is this a good thing or a bad thing that he agrees with us? I think it's a good thing. I think he definitely has great taste. Have you seen his beautiful wife? Beautiful wife. If you have great taste in your wives, you're going to have great taste. Have you seen his beautiful wife? Beautiful wife. If you have great taste in your wives,

you're going to have great taste. Happy wife. Happy pizza. You know what they say. And Dwayne The Rock Johnson, you actually just said this. As for my pizza toppings,

keep in mind, I'm the guy who likes to put tequila and brown sugar in my oatmeal. So pineapple on my pizza is my jam with ham. So it's not pancakes.

How could you disagree with anything that The Rock said? Yeah, it's another breakfast. He's incredible. He's everything that a person should be in life. He's absolutely jacked. He's super yoked.

Bald. He's real strong. Bald. He's got big muscles. No hair. And he can lift a lot of weights. Zero follicles. Oh, you love bald guys, huh?

I love all men. You love all pizza. You love all men. This is Nicole Hendizadeh signing out i'm a very inclusive person all right nicole yes josh final answer yes does pineapple belong on pizza absolutely yeah that was there was no question yeah man what are you talking about you've been a pineapple stand since day one since day one uh i'm sticking with my original answer 2035 2035 is the year pineapple will belong in pizza.

I will continue to eat it until the day I die. But until 2035, I will feel a deep sense of shame. And there's nothing wrong with that. We'll eat it together so we can absolve the shame. We're going to record our next podcast at CPK. Oh my gosh. I love CPK. The Jamaican Drake pizza is so good.

Oh my gosh. We've already heard what you and I have to say about a lot. Yes. But now we're going to find out what other crazy food opinions are out there in the Twitterverse. It's time for Opinions Are Like Casserole. Okay, okay, okay. Number one, number one. Mythical Tamara writes in, I dip chicken nuggets in applesauce and everyone calls me weird for it.

Tamara, stop hanging around this negativity. Tamara, you nasty. Tamara, you deserve better people to hang around. Do not dip your chicken nuggets in applesauce, girl. You dip latkes in applesauce, right? Love yourself more. It's fried food and applesauce. I agree.

It's like halfway you strain that, it becomes sweet and sour sauce. Chicken nuggets and applesauce, I give it the thumbs up. I'm going to go ahead and thumbs that down. down that's fine we don't have to agree on everything but i do like you less now nicole i never liked you in the first place gary kirk patrick says hot food hot fruit is gross apple pie etc let's make fruit hot and squishy and then eat it no thanks gary you are sassy and i like you because of that. And your take is dumb. Like really dumb. Like hot fruit is dank.

Hot fruit is dank. I agree. But one of my good friends and one of the best food writers in America, Kushbusha, restaurant editor at Food & Wine, also agrees with this. And it bothers me. She hates hot fruit in literally all forms. And I think it's weird. I love hot fruit.

Pie is fantastic. I love pie. All right. Who we got next? We got, what is this? V underscore Rappo. Omelette with sardines. And it's a cute smiley face. And it's a cute little smiley face.

Eggs and fish to me. Fantastic combination. I enjoy it as well. I absolutely love eggs. Hangtown fry. Yeah. Well, fried oysters on an omelette. Oh, yeah.

Eggs and fish is fantastic. Omelette with sardines. Boom. You nailed it. V underscore Rappo. Okay. We got microwave pizza. Fantastic name. Says pickles are gross. on omelet eggs and fish is fantastic omelet sardines boom you nailed v underscore rappo okay we got microwave pizza fantastic name says pickles are gross no matter what um that's rude rude i love pickles utterly false pickles on the side of whatever you're eating or just a pickle on its own is delicious one of the true wonders of the world pickles date back thousands of years

every culture has their own pickle. Pickles are an absolute miracle food. Also, we just eat pickles straight out of the jar. I just eat packaged pickles like those big fat pickles. That's like my jam. We have to keep a pickle stash in the office. No, pickles are like a miracle food. You're completely wrong. Good for your tummy.

Oh, is it me again? Yes. What is Ashley Lynn 1130? I don't like raw. Sorry. I don't like raw. Sorry. I don't like raw or plain, both in quotes, cheese only melted or mixed in something. You don't like raw cheese. Just say you don't like unmelted cheese. I like that they called it raw cheese.

The thing is that raw milk, like raw cheese exists, like from raw milk. And it's like illegal to import into the US. Like a raw camembert is illegal because it's not pasteurized. Yeah, but it's not, you mean uncooked or unheated cheese is? Cold. They don't like cold cheese. Yeah, I like, I mean, feta cheese. Yeah, a good cold cheese.

Raw feta plain, delicious. Sometimes I don't like completely melted cheese. I like cold cheese. Also the cold cheese pizza slice, that's a big thing. Oh. You heard about this? No. It's in New Jersey.

It is so drunk people don't burn their mouths. Wow. They will take a hot pizza slice and put cold shredded cheese on it to act as a buffer. Wow. Which is one of the most empathetic food stories of our time. That's amazing. Let's see. Melissa, how do you say that?

Melissa Madiddle? Madiddle? Melissa Madiddle. Chocolate on fried chicken. But then again, you guys also did the donor fried chicken. I think she meant donut. I think chicken with chocolate could work. I think if you dipped it in chocolate syrup or you did a spicy chocolate syrup,

I think it could definitely exist. Yeah, what is mole negro on chicken? Agreed. Also, there was a fried chicken restaurant. It was a chocolate fried chicken restaurant it was a chocolate fried chicken restaurant in la called choco chicken the founder of umami burger started this no it was like choco chicken is going to be bigger than umami burger ever was and that restaurant closed in like three months because no one likes chocolate fried chicken yeah i agree

that it could work i don't think it probably should work all right what do we got is this the fake anthonim guys just put your names in your handles or something. It's a good branding move. Chasing shots with hot sauce or maple syrup instead of limes or juice. Yes, you get it. Chase your shots with hot sauce. Fantastic. It burns it right out of you.

It gets your heart racing. You're going to have an even more fun time at the bar or alone, whatever you're doing. I do not judge you killing it. This is amazing. more fun time at the bar or alone whatever you're doing i do not judge you're killing it this is amazing and i think i might actually adapt this because i always chase my my shots with like a squeeze of lime now that i see maple syrup as an option i'm picking up that option i'm putting it in my back pocket i didn't know i could do that yeah i thought i would be judged no not with the fake anthonim next we have n vlaL-A, I don't know, whatever.

Vlachakis. Vlachakis. Prosciutto can and should be cooked. I know it's disrespectful to the person who made it, but I'd LOL. So one time I had a prosciutto sandwich that was cooked prosciutto, and I took a bite of it, and I had to run, and I chewed it to give it some chance. And literally, I almost threw up at the table so I ran to the bathroom and I threw it up in the bathroom and then I never ordered any sort

of like cooked prosciutto ever again yeah you're wrong not a fan of cooked prosciutto um I'm also the same person though who has taken like a nice sushi roll with raw fish and put it in the microwave to just to take the chill off before it was left over oh that's and it cooked the fish a little bit and I still ate it so what I eat cooked prosciutto. Yeah. But that said, like the texture of prosciutto crudo is just fantastic. And I think you're doing it a disservice. But then again, I am a garbage person.

Oh, here we go. Troy Blake pretzel sticks plus Miracle Whip equals amazing. Troy Blake, I think you equals amazing because I agree. Miracle Whip. I don't care if it is not legally allowed to be called mayonnaise. It is essentially a coleslaw flavored aioli and it is a beautiful product. I agree. Dip away, son.

I absolutely love Miracle Whip. I sometimes like Miracle Whip on my sandwiches versus mayo if I want like a nice little sweet tang, you know? You want some zing. I want a little zing in my sandwich. It's a nostalgic taste. Yeah, it's really delicious. I'm a big fan.

little thing in my sandwich. It's a nostalgic taste. Yeah, it's really delicious. I'm a big fan. Dill Pickle 2627 says, best condiment to dip fries in is mayo. I agree to an extent because I like Thousand Island, which is just the base is mayo upon which the sauce is made. So I agree with you a little bit, just a little bit. I think the best condiment, I i mean people balk at the idea

they balk at it nicole they balk hard the idea of dipping fries in mayo but that's like a huge european thing like that's the classic belgian yeah yeah belgian netherlands france all that uh i prefer ketchup over mayo but to me like ranch is the best and what a beautifully american thing i'm glad that we live in a country where i have the freedom to just eat fries and then take a nice slurper ranch afterwards because God, that is the best. Also Outback Steakhouse Ranch, best ranch in the game. Oh my gosh. It's the same as every other ranch, but it's really cold and has the right amount of water in it.

You want to know why? Because it's Cisco brand. Yeah. It's so white that it looks like white out. It looks like nail polish when you pour it out with little flecks in it. It literally absorbs the light around it. Yeah, exactly. Cisco brand. It's the best and the worst at the same time. That's why you like it out with little flecks in it it literally absorbs the light around yeah exactly cisco brand it's the best and the worst at the same time that's why you like it so much

yeah i can taste it in my mouth all right what do we got here we got a distressed demon a peanut butter lemon distressed lemon i can't read good i only hold this up to my glasses dude i need lasik uh sort of go fund me for my lasik um a peanut butter preferably chunky and sliced cheese sandwich is 10 out of 10 huh i don't know that i can imagine what that would taste like i remember though oh yeah i have a very distinct memory being at my babysitter's house when i was like nine years old and she made me a sandwich and i could not tell whether or not it was a grilled cheese or a peanut butter onto a sandwich i don't know what the deal not it was a grilled cheese or a peanut butter onto a sandwich.

I don't know what the deal was. It was very crappy cheese or very crappy peanut butter or what it was. Maybe it was both. And maybe that's what I was experiencing. But sliced cheese sandwich, I think melt it together and get even weirder with it. But as for that, you know, I'm not I'm not down. It's like the Goober burger where it's like us, like a cheeseburger with like a big glob of like peanut butter. So I understand how it could work, but I'm not about to do that to myself because I love myself.

No, but bananas, peanuts, and mayonnaise is a thing that my high school girlfriend's mom introduced me to. I'm so glad you're not with her anymore. I still love it. I hope she's doing great and married a guy in the army, has a kid. They seem so happy. Am I next? Yeah. Top Bank 3377 says, shrimp and cheese quesadillas covered in mayo, lots of mayo, is the best

taste your mouth will ever experience. Okay. So I think shrimp and cheese can definitely exist in like a world together because I love quesadillas more than you can imagine. But like the mayo part i feel like if it's cold mayo it can work like if it's room temp don't shake your head at me about room you want that hot mayo in your mouth no no no you need to have cold mayo so like it's that like yummy like like cheesy like stretch and then it's like cold mayo kind of like uh the those really great tacos dorados shrimp taco dorados where it's like hot quesadilla stuff and then the cold salsa

i feel like that's the same like flavor combination like temperature i like that you're taking inspiration for your answer from a traditional jaliscon delicacy from mexico i'm gonna go ahead and take my answer from taco bell because they put mayonnaise in their quesadillas and no one seems to know this. There's a little extra orange goo in your Taco Bell quesadilla and it is just straight up mayonnaise and hot sauce. It says covered in mayo. It's not mayo inside. Yeah. Are they covering the outside?

I think covered. I'm going to give them the colloquial benefit of the doubt. Okay. But either way, I think we're both on their side. Yes. Shrimp cheese, mayonnaise, tortilla. Yeah. Like go wild. I'm down. Yes. Shrimp, cheese, mayonnaise, tortilla. Yeah. Like, go wild.

I'm down. Okay. What do we got? And lamb McFadden. I don't know anymore. I don't know how to pronounce that. Something McFadden. Chocolate is overrated.

It honestly sucks. No, you suck. Wow. Wow. Swinging. These are two separate things. Saying chocolate sucks, probably false. It's kind of a universally good thing.

Your body is predisposed to liking it. Saying chocolate is overrated though. I would agree only because it is so highly rated. Chocolate is good. I, I will actively take almost any other dessert flavor profile over chocolate. Cause I just, I've eaten chocolate to death. I've eaten chocolate so many times. We like you, you go to the Ben and Jerry's ice cream pantheon.

Yeah. 90% of them have chocolate in it You can't find flavor without chocolate I just want vanilla It's like a lovely, beautiful, wonderful flavor Let's explore that Yeah, it's very, very eclectic Agreed, chocolate is overrated But objectively does not suck You suck!

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