A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Food Reddit Stories

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

Today, Josh and Nicole are reading some juicy Reddit stories all involving food in some way, because we all know it can be a sore spot. I WANT BITE! You'll get it. Leave us a voicemail at (833) DO...G-POD1 Check out the video version of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this is mythical. Time for some juicy Reddit stories. The tea is hot and I'm ready to spill it. Okay, work. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:00:19 A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show you break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Cher. And I'm your host, Nicole Iniety. And you need to know that the word work.
Starting point is 00:00:34 W-E-R-K. W-E-R-K. Yeah. Yeah. And now is that a reference to Ms. Wendy Williams? No, I just think it's like a colloquial, like, black, gay, like, you know, like word. I saw Paris is burning. You did?
Starting point is 00:00:49 Well, you're so, you're so in tune. You're so in tune with the ball scene in New York. The 1980s ball scene. One fascinating subculture. It is very fascinating. Given us so much of this Gen Z slang just comes from, like, you know, the black drag movement in the 1980s. Also, Paris's Burning is just one of the best made documentaries. It's a really good documentary.
Starting point is 00:01:08 If you haven't watched Paris's Burning, you've got to go watch it. It's incredible. What's that guy that did all the Netflix shows that people don't seem to like anymore? They all had Evan Peters in it. Rupal. No, no, no, no. Ryan Murphy. Pose.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Pose was just like almost shot for shot based on Paris's Burning. Can I tell you something? No episode of television. has made me cry more than a certain episode of Pose, season two. Do you know the one I'm talking about? No, I watched season one. It was good. There's an episode in season two.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I have never in my life, like, hyperventilated, cried from an episode of television the way I did. If you know, you know. Also, this is an audio-only podcast. Send it to me. Send it what to you? The episode of pose. Send me the, send me for you. I will.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I will. I just want to feel something. Tears, like tears rushing down my face. He did a show called Hollywood that I think I'm the only one that enjoyed it. Yeah, no one watched it but me. What about the, he has another show, a grotesque, fantastic, whatever, grotesquery. Who can keep track? Who can't keep track, who I also love.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Love some Niecy Nash. She's also black and gay and I love her. She usually got married. Congratulations to Niecy Nash. We're getting married. I love you, Niecy Nash. This podcast isn't about Niecy Nash. I mean, now it is.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Necy Nash. But we are going to be reading controversial Reddit stories. Yes. And they are food-centric because this is a podcast about food, whether you like it or not. So we're going to say some stories. And I'm really excited to see if we have proper moral standing within ourselves. This is the most interaction I'll have had with Reddit in over a year. I'm like a year Reddit free.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Do not check the mythical kitchen subreddit because it would just make me really sad. Wow. Okay. And God bless you, all of you who are supporting on the subreddit. And then the ones who aren't, you should be ashamed of yourself. I check it sometimes. there just to go, so everyone hates Josh, right? No, you're so likable. Stop it. No, I agree, but that's the problem with looking at Reddit, because Reddit is just, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:06 the front page of the Internet. It's the front page of the Internet. It's absolutely the anonymous complaint box of the Internet, and it frightens me, but a lot of good stuff going on there. Ken Bone, he had a great Reddit presence. Then, I've also deleted my Twitter now fully, just deleted the account. I can't believe that. 200,000 followers gone. It turns out followers do not improve your life in any regard. about the friends that you make along the way, and you would log on to Twitter. It was the anti-Indian racism that was getting me.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Huge swells in anti-Indian racism on Twitter, and I couldn't say it anymore. Was that on your following or for you? Dude, I don't know. They just alter the algorithm so much. You know what I mean, though? I know. Because, like, you linger in horror on somebody
Starting point is 00:03:48 just, like, being disgusting, and then suddenly it serves you more, and that's the model, and so I'm off it now. So this is the first time I'll be interacting with negativity online in a while. Okay, great. I'm really excited for you to feel a little, to feel a little crappy. Yeah, rip these band-aids up.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Okay, cool. So should I go first? You start. Okay. A-I-T-A, which stands for M-I-D-A-hole, for refusing to let my husband, quote-unquote, fix my cultural food. Bold start. Bold start. Cultural background.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I, 32 female, am Indian-American. My nationality is American, and my ethnicity is Indian. married to my husband, 32 male, who is German, Irish, Polish American. We've been married for a little less than a year and living together for two years now. My husband and I cook dinner for each other equitably. I cook dinner more often just because I'm typically more, I'm sorry. I cook dinner more often, just because I am typically more free most evenings, but I do not mind, and he also cooks dinner. Recently, my mom has been teaching me familial Indian recipes more and more frequently in hopes to widen
Starting point is 00:04:55 my culinary knowledge for a family. Because of this, I've been introducing more and more Indian foods to my husband. I hate that I think I know where this is going, and I think I am the villain, and I am the husband in this. It's not done yet. I know, but I'm very scared to that. It's like when I watched the menu, and I went, oh, no, I'm Tyler. I'm Nicholas Holt's character.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's okay. I know you see yourself in a lot of people, but let's see. Until now, he's been really enthusiastic about it and enjoys the food and flavors I've introduced to him. For reference, it's mostly been spicy curries when I've cooked Indian food. The problem started when I made doll for him, which if you're not familiar, it is a lentil dish that is more umami than it is spicy. But it's really flavorful in its own right. When I served it to him and he took a bite, I saw noticeable disappointment on his face.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I asked him what was wrong, and he said that he thought I forgot to add spice to it. I laughed because I thought he was joking, but he seemed dead serious. I told him I had used spice They just weren't quote unquote spicy In their traditional sense But he insisted he wanted it spicy So I said that's just So I said that is just how it's made
Starting point is 00:06:01 We went back and forth for a while And eventually got really mad Because it felt like he was disrespecting My family traditions By insisting something was wrong At some point he even said It's okay I'll fix it myself And I got really first
Starting point is 00:06:13 We gotta pause on this We gotta pause on this Yeah okay So one I'm the guy I'm this guy I'm this guy Also, Dahl, like, it's not meant to be spicy. Dahl is a very, like, staple food, right? Lentils cook down.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It tends to be, like, pretty loose. And, like, it's well-season, generally. Would you consider it a lentil porridge? Kind of, yeah. You know, it's somewhere in between, like, it's like almost like a thick soup at some way. I'm a big fan of all, yeah. I love Dahl. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:40 If I make it at home, it's going to be more spiced and also spicier than when, like, my best friend's mom makes it. Sure. And she is the best cook I've literally ever eaten from. Sure. She's absolutely beautiful. Her doll is incredible. But like for my own tastes, I just grew up eating hot Cheetos constantly and smoke. I used to smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Just like burnt my palate out and ripping red bowls all the time. Totally, totally. And so, yeah, sometimes I do want all my food mad spicy. But the term fix is what's the problem here. That said, when people tell stories, you know, they start fudging into. individual words. If he said fix it, that's messed up. And if this is me just not believing women, then I feel terrible and I'll see myself out. Sure. Let me keep going here. I told him that he could reheat leftovers or make something else because we never altered the food that the other made just because we didn't like it. Okay, there's some context there. I specifically told him he has no place to correct me or modify my cultural food, and I just won't make it for him anymore if he doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:07:43 He said I was being completely unreasonable for not letting him fix a dish. I forget what he said specifically. specifically, and I don't want to misquote him, but the gist of it was that he expected differently from my cuisine, which really set me off. It's been a few days, and it's kind of been a bitter, bit bitter at meal time. He hasn't apologized to me, and I think he's expecting one for me, but I'm really not sure how I'm in the wrong. Was I being too defensive, or was he just being insensitive? This one's tricky. You ever dealt with anything like that? I mean, your own husband. My own husband. Your own husband. We're both, we're both Persians. But I've also seen what he does to his mom's food. Yeah. And she takes an issue with it, but I think in
Starting point is 00:08:18 the loving way. Yeah, I mean, this guy puts, uh, this guy puts saracha on his cab among Gorma Sabzi. That's, and it doesn't matter. Literally last night I made pasta. He brought, he brought out three different bottles of hot sauce last time. Yes, yes, there's three, there's, there's, there's a panoply of hot sauces always at, within his reach. The thing is, our culture is the same, right? So there's, oh, you and David's. Yeah, we're both Persian, we're both Jewish. Like, our food is literally the same. Yeah. His mom has a spicier palate than I do. Like, she puts pepper and everything. My dad is allergic to pepper.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Like the way that Pierce Broson's character was allergic in Mrs. Delfire, he is very allergic. So. It's on the way. Literally. So, hot jambalaya. So in my household, I was always raised with a little bit more delicate flavors that are more nuanced. And I think David's mom is more aggressive with her spice. Very delicious cook, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So, I don't know, it's like, in my mind, I understand what he's saying because, I mean, the general consensus is Indian food is spicy. That's just how a lot of people think. Yes, which is not... Which is not correct. Yeah, yeah. To assume that every single dish. Also, when you say spicy, do you mean, like, well-seasoned in spice? No, I mean spicy.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But things like black mustard seed, but hot and spicy. No, it is an assumption that Indian is more bigante. See, it's an assumption that people think that all Indian food is spicy. which is totally untrue. Like, Raita's not spicy. Non isn't spicy. And these are just my very, like, basic. Also very, very regionally different in the country.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And it's, this goes for Thai food as well. Absolutely. So I think, I think the language of, I'm going to fix it, I'm going to change it, might not be the best. I think your husband might need to realize that not all Indian food is spicy. And for him to assume that is wrong. I agree. This, to me, all comes down to the word fix. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 If he said fix, what, he is the A-hole. 100%. Sure. I agree. If he said, hey, I'm very grateful for you cooking dinner. If you wouldn't mind, I'll separate my portion into a different pot. Do you mind if I add things to it? I don't think as a cook in your home with the person that you love most in the world, you should be very defensive about your food. I've been cooking, and I understand there's a lot of sensitivities here regarding culture. I just talked about the anti-Indian racism that made me leave Twitter, you know? And so, especially now when you take so much pride in the cuisine of, you know, your relatives and your family, as you said earlier, I 100% get that. But like, if he just wants to cook for his own
Starting point is 00:10:54 palate, you know? Let him. Let him. But if he's trying to say, no, I can make this better than you for your palate, that's a problem. And that's something that goes deeper than just food, right? Yeah, it's like, I know what's best for you. Yeah. But like I, if I'm making like a burger or a burrito or some sort of delicious sandwich that's all I want to eat at home, right? My wife has taken off the top bun of every single burger or sandwich or everything or she has ripped
Starting point is 00:11:21 38% of the tortilla off. And it did use to bother me at first because I was like, this is how I've intended to make it, but now I'm like, you can't control how your art is consumed. I watch a lot of movies on airplanes. Yeah. The director probably didn't intend
Starting point is 00:11:36 for me to watch a Nora on a plane. Sean Baker. Sean Baker, go with the show. Love you. Love it. Love it. Love the movie. It was fantastic. And it made my plane ride very, uh, very entertaining and sexy, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Sexiest plane ride. Sitting next to a co-worker. What's up, Jacob? You fell asleep. I was watching a Nora. Well, again, like, I don't know. Sometimes do I look at my husband and say, hey, don't eat that much. He eats spice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Starting point is 00:12:06 This is the problem. I sure he would put hot sauce in his coffee if he could. Like, at some point, because I'm genuinely worried about his gut health, I say, hey, it's breakfast. Do you mind not putting so much, like, red pepper flakes on your eggs? Like, I've had to have that conversation. And it's not coming from a place of, like, I made this food. You have to eat it the way I make it. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I genuinely worry about his health. His GI health? I genuinely worry about his health. Yeah, when you're, like, you know, when you're, like, nursing a newborn, you can't have your husband down with an ulcer, you know? Exactly. And he's so stressed out already. Yeah, you know, if he was out there like riding a motorcycle about a helmet, say the same thing. It's not, it's just not safe. Like, this kind of loves hot sauce so much.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And listen, I understand the dichotomy and the fact that he's Polish and you're Indian. It's really hard, but I think he, I think he is being the booty hole. There's a Bordainification. There's somebody came out and kind of talked about potential negative influence that Bordain. could have had on the world. They use the phrase where every white guy treats getting a bowl of soup like a military extraction mission. Yeah, it's not that big a video.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And a lot of people really like went in on her. I think Bourdain would have, and I know the politics of saying, I think Bordane would have said this is super, super annoying. It's like when people theorized if Hank Hill would have voted for Hillary Trump. It's pointless. But he also didn't love a lot of the. culture that came out of what he did. He never advocated for it
Starting point is 00:13:44 but he talks about these like chef bros coming up to him when he was doing speaking events and like pulling out a baggie of cocaine going like hey bro like you want a party and he's like you didn't actually read anything I wrote drugs destroyed my life it's bad but the fact that he wrote about that made people it still romanticized it because
Starting point is 00:14:02 people read about it right cautionary tales can still romanticize things in a certain way and so you get some people in me very much included, who would, you know, go, oh, I've seen no reservations. I know a lot about food. Indian food is spicy. This doesn't taste spicy. Right. Right? Because you have fetishized this cuisine in a weird way where you don't understand. And I've talked to Thai chefs. Indian food is, a lot of it is spicy. A lot of it is not. Thai food. A lot of it is spicy and very spicy. A lot of it is not. And we can't view these cuisines, especially wide swaths. Indians and country of what? One,
Starting point is 00:14:40 billion people, you can't pin it down to one thing. So I've talked to Thai chefs who go, I have to make my food spicier for white people because they will tell me this is not authentic if it is not burn your butthole off. So silly. And that's wild. So I think this guy has a little bit of that disease and I know that because I'm also afflicted with it because I do the same thing. I go into a Thai restaurant and Indian restaurant and I look for the most obscure thing on the menu
Starting point is 00:15:06 and I ask for some sort of chili paste on the side so I can try and win the respect to the servers who just do not care at all. They're just trying to make a dollar. Yeah, literally. And I tip well. I also tip well. Because I'm Tyler from the menu.
Starting point is 00:15:21 My friends make fun of me because I tip well. Do you know that? That's crazy. You know that quiet holiday a moment? Maybe you've got warm socks on, lights twinkling, a mug of hot chocolate in hand. That's my favorite time for a little me time. And this year I've been using it to learn a new language with Rosetta Stone.
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Starting point is 00:16:53 My wife asks for a bite or drink of every single food item I ever plan to ingest. Am I the A-hole for finally saying no? Yeah. I immediately have my mind made up. My 29-year-old wife My, okay, I'm so new to read it My, I am a 29-year-old female wife Who is a 32-year-old female
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like to ask to taste my food Every single time I eat I'm not talking about going out to eat and trying something new I'm talking about if I pour myself a bowl of cereal If I buy a lemonade If I'm eating a pint of fruit-flavored ice cream And she hates fruit And let me say here
Starting point is 00:17:32 I have absolutely no problem sharing Sounds like you do. I think sharing food with one another can be cute and intimate. And I'm not making myself food without offering to cook for her as well, so it's not like I'm purposely excluding her. I started saying if she wanted extra, just let me get another so she can have some too, but then that's too much. I offer to cook a bigger portion, but she refuses. But then once I sit down to eat, ask for a bite. And if I order a cook extra, then I shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:17:58 This is just love. This is what it means to be in partnership, in love with another person. she's not done it's also not just regular asking she says it's also not just regular asking she says i want bite in a whiny toddler voice i'll do that more time i want bite she says i want a bite in a whiny toddler voice at first it was kind of cute and endearing but i finally reached my limit we ordered dinner and i asked three times to make sure i shouldn't get more I go to eat I want bite
Starting point is 00:18:33 I want bite I just said no this time now she jokingly says I hate her and must want a divorce I know she's trying to be facetious and lighthearted but I can tell it
Starting point is 00:18:45 actually hurt her a bit I want to share my food with my wife but she makes it feel like I'm trying to feed myself around an actual toddler anyone that has kids probably knows exactly what I'm talking about I told her I don't think
Starting point is 00:18:56 she should stop asking me to share but to recognize my side so am I the A-hole for not sharing with my wife, Reddit? Should I just suck it up and make my wife happy, or am I justified in saying no? Hmm. I won't bite.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I want bite. I also won't bite. I am the I want bite. Oh, yeah, me too. Well, me and David are both that way. Why are your arms crossed? I don't know, you did it, and I was just matching your energy. I feel like I see myself in this, and that makes me sad.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Because... Now you understand the feeling. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, what do you mean? We're together What's mine is yours What's yours is mine, right? I think the cereal and like water
Starting point is 00:19:36 Like me and my husband Like if I pour myself a glass of water I'll give him a sip Always Like always Does he ask for a sip Or you give him a set? It's just implied that like
Starting point is 00:19:46 Drink like I'll have a sip And then I'll leave it here And he has as much as he wants And like we're like that with food too sometimes Except recently I've been very territorial about some things Like I'm like No you can't have this steak
Starting point is 00:19:58 I want to stay got it to myself. It's so funny because every, every, like, relationship question or problem, it's just always the same answer. And just, have you talked to them about this? Yes. Have you explained it earnestly and honestly to your partner? And a lot of people do not explain things earnestly and honestly to our partner, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 And so if you just sat them down and said, hey, if I'm being honest when you act like a toddler, when you say that, it kind of, it turns me off a little bit, and I think I know where that comes from in myself, and I'm happy to share my food, but these are some frustrations. Say that to them in that exact context. It sucks. Confrontation sucks, especially when it's somebody that you live with, and frankly, sometimes it's easier just to go about your day.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But, like, that's what it means to be in a relationship and they actually communicate with somebody, right? Yeah, but it's so much easier said than done, Josh. I don't know, dude. Not everybody communicates clearly and effectively. Sure. Clearly, I want bite, as demonstrated from a... No, but literally, okay, anytime somebody goes, like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 somebody puts on a weird fake accent, it's like a form of masking. Of course. Where they can pass off as a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got a little difficult conversation to have. I'm just kidding, I know I said that. That's so millennial coded. But really, I do have...
Starting point is 00:21:16 Oh, so millennial coded. You know, it's kind of like a Zoe-Desh kind of situation. Like, oh, I don't know one wants to have this conversation right now. I've never seen an approach. episode of New Girl. But you know what I mean? It's any time somebody like obscures, they kind of put on a little character because they're afraid of saying that. That's this person going, I want buy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 They think it's like a cute little joke, but they're actually saying like, hey, I really want bite of what you have. I don't think it's just that. I think this is their way of feeling loved. I think it's their way of feeling loved. And it's a way of being like, again, what's mine is yours. What's yours is mine. I need to have a part of whatever you're doing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And instead of saying, I want buy. They should say this is my way of feeling loved. But not everybody communicates that effectively. I know, and I'm saying it's bad because then your partner goes on Reddit. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. I know. I'm saying not everyone does that, and I'm saying they should.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And I know it's uncomfortable, but that's like the only way through. And then the part on this that actually kind of broke my heart is when she jokingly says, I hate her and must want a divorce. And that is infectious. The D word is so bad. Do you guys ever say the D word? Yeah, occasionally. I never say it. But it comes from like a real fear, right?
Starting point is 00:22:29 Like for us, even if we're like joking, like, oh, got a divorce. But then that is, then we pull back and go, hey, we realize that that's a big fear for both of us. Yeah. That we've watched both of our parents get divorced. And they were equally in love with each other as we were. Sure. And so let's talk about where the sphere is coming from. Like, we catch ourselves in these little jokes all the time.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And we call each other out. Which is like masking. 100%. We've also gone to couples therapy, and it's been like so, so, so helpful. And all of it was basically preventative because we were scared because we both saw our own families go through these things. And we're like, we have to give ourselves the best shot at this. Yeah, I don't, I don't like to throw around the D word at all. I think it's, like you said, I think it's infectious.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah. And I think once you just throw it around frivolous, frivolously? Frivolous. Come on, help me out. Frivorish. Like, ah, frivolously. Frivolously. Frivolously.
Starting point is 00:23:25 When you throw words around frivolously, I think it gives it, it kind of, like, desensitizes you to it. And I just think it's bad, personally. I don't like saying, like, split up is, like, not allowed in my house either. Like, not even in a joking way. I think it's, I think it's completely terrible to even interject into your everyday life for conversations. But you don't ever have the, like, the talk about, like, this, this potentially could happen to us.
Starting point is 00:23:55 No. Because I don't think it's ever going to happen. I don't know. I don't even. I hope you're correct. I hope you're correct. It's like saying, like, what are some other traumatic life things that happen? Oh, could get hit by a bus.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Never say that in my house. Oh, I say that all the time because it could. I drive on the freeway all the time. Tons of people die on the 4.5. I'm more concerned with my husband's GI tract, more so than driving. Don't say that you were. Getting hit by an 18-wheeler on a freeway. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Like, I guess it's just, like, that negative stuff I just don't do in my house. But if David ever said, no, you can't have a bite of my food, I'd be so upset, even though I do it with him sometimes. Yes, yeah, I'd also say that's bad, and you should work through that. I know, I know. But I just like to think it's because I'm starving all the time because I'm pregnant. Oh, yeah, you're pregnant. Because when I'm not pregnant, I don't give a... It's the baby.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's not her. It's the baby. I almost said the F word. When I'm not probably like I don't care Like have all of my food I love sharing my food typically But like sometimes I'm very territorial When it comes to like
Starting point is 00:24:57 Certain foods I'm like no you can't have this No But it's not like that one I'm like no I always want a bite of Julia's food And she rarely ever wants a bite of mine No she does
Starting point is 00:25:07 She'll just come up with her mouth open She's like a seal That's toddler behavior Yeah I know But I think it's really cute So I love it Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah I agree it's so cute I love doing that. And David thinks it's cute too And sometimes he doesn't do anything I think is really cute I just shove like half a dried fig in there or something About too many dried figs They're not very good
Starting point is 00:25:27 Trying to figure it out One more, Maggie One more Hey, you're much better at reading than I am Thank you Do you want to read What about Friend Leave the House For criticizing cooking?
Starting point is 00:25:42 I like that one Okay, go for it It's the second one I'm scrolling You don't need to scroll that far Am I the A-hole for asking my friend to leave my house after she constantly criticized my cooking? So I, who am a 25-year-old male, recently had a few friends over for dinner. I love to cook.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And I made a pretty elaborate meal, thinking everyone would enjoy it. One of my friends, Sarah, 30-year-old female, has been a little critical of my cooking in the past, but I've always brushed it off because she's known for being very blunt about her opinions. Well, last night she took it a step for her. further. During dinner, she kept making little jabs at the food saying things like this isn't quite how I would have made it. It's a little dry, and
Starting point is 00:26:26 I would have added more spices. She said it repeatedly and in a way that made everyone feel uncomfortable. After about the fourth comment, I told her to stop, but she kept going, trying to correct my cooking methods. I'm no professional chef, but I was proud of the meal, and it felt like she
Starting point is 00:26:42 was disrespecting my effort. At that point, I asked her to leave, because I wasn't going to sit there and listen to constant criticism. She was shocked and said I overreacted, but I told her that she wasn't going to be supportive. She could eat somewhere else. She left in a huff, and now some of our other friends are texting me saying I should have just let it slide and that I was being overly sensitive.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So am I the A-hole for asking my friend to leave my house because she kept criticizing my cooking? Damn. Jina. I think they're, but what? Sorry, I think it's from... Damn, Gina. Oh, it's Gina? Yeah, Jina is the...
Starting point is 00:27:18 Character from 40-year-old Virgin, Mo Collins. Matt TV alum. We love Matt TV. Love, love Matt. TV. Okay. They're both A-Holes. Yeah, I just wouldn't want to be in this friend group. Yeah, listen. We need one of the friends who texted him to weigh in. We need them here to say, hey, what really happens?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Listen, some friend groups dissipate the older you get, and that's just a part of life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But wow, I think your friend, Sarah, should have definitely had a little bit more respect for you. You made a beautiful dinner, you know, laid it out. And these kinds of opinions, what? Do we know that the dinner was beautiful? Who cares? It's the effort. It's the effort. It's the effort. It's 100% the effort. Sometimes, no, no, I agree.
Starting point is 00:28:03 It's 100% the effort. Are you kidding me? I know, I know. I go ahead. I've been to so many dinners where the food wasn't good. You know what I do? You know what I do? I suck ass at cooking. I'm so grateful that they've cooked for me. Yeah, of course. You shut your food. mouth and you go talk crap about it in the car with your close friends. That's what everyone does. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like, why are you... But to their face, you owe it to them to go, you are a god of generosity. Thank you so much for doing this. And I genuinely believe that. I agree. You know what I mean? And listen, if 99% of the things are wrong, I will do my best to find that 1% and say, hey, that, the way you cook those carrots was delicious.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Or the way that you season that falafel was, chef's kiss. Like, you've got to find those little, like, moments in time. Falafel's bold for an amateur cooked at a dinner party. I don't know, man. I don't know. But, you know what I'm saying? I had falafel a few days ago. That's why it's on my mind. But, you know, it's, you got to find those little pockets of, like, or like, you set up the table so beautifully. Oh, my God, these flowers are so nice. Like, it's hospitality 101. It's friendship 101. It's social interaction 101. Yeah. And I understand not everybody. Listen, I get it. Sometimes I'm very blunt, too, and I'm very,
Starting point is 00:29:12 like, straightforward. Like, I need to tell. people things the way it is, I get that. But whenever it comes to hospitality on hosting, no. Are you on drugs? I would never disrespect someone like this. Not to their face. A thing I've learned as I've gotten older is to be okay with bad meals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Not bad meals, bad food. To be okay with bad food. Because bad food and a bad meal are different. Yeah. Right? If you go to a dinner party and it's just the driest chicken you've ever had and it's the best company and a thing that Julie does I love is she has little like icebreaker
Starting point is 00:29:47 games, not even games just like Yeah, she's really good at those She's incredible at making people feel included It's not an icebreaker, is it? Like a sentence. Yeah, I think people call them like icebreaker question kind of thing. She has such creative icebreaker questions, I love them. Oh, she's great. Just make sure everybody gets involved in like the drinks
Starting point is 00:30:03 are flowing and everybody that we've invited is on the same page. It does not matter if the chicken's dry. You're going to eat bad meals in your life. Totally. That's totally fine, right? And the fact that somebody put in this effort to host, that's an incredible, that's a mitzvah, right? That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, I agree. My theory here, I don't think Sarah likes you. And I don't think you like Sarah. I don't think you like Sarah. I think you guys are just a friendship of convenience. You know, you're just a part of a friend group, but I don't think you guys genuinely have anything in common. I also think that you kicking her out of your house is also not the best method.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's crazy work, man. I think that's rude as well. But to be fair, it looks like Sarah casts the first stone. And I listen, we currently, I would say, I've noticed a lot of people saying setting boundaries is a good thing. You know what I mean? Like when Jonah Hill set boundaries in his relationship? I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, you don't remember that?
Starting point is 00:31:00 No. I thought that was the end of setting boundaries. Oh. Oh. Because he was like, he was like, I set, yeah, he was like I set clear boundaries because my therapist told me that you are not a lot. allowed to surf around any men. She was like a professional server. It's a lot deeper than that.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But I literally think that that situation killed the idea of setting boundaries. People still set boundaries also. Yeah, sure. The over-therapite is language that we, like, operate in, I think, has been pretty detrimental. Yeah, everything's a cycle. It's just, it's going to go back around. Whatever. Like, I think this person was like, I am clear in my boundaries.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And if someone's going to disrespect me in my home, they're not allowed anymore. And I feel... And now they've created a trauma. See? Look, you're over-therapized language. I think it's... Now it's a drama. I think it's a problem.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I think it's genuinely a problem. So I don't know. I agree. Having someone who disrespected you... He's being gaslit now. Gaslit, girl boss, girl dinner? What is it? Gaslight girl boss, girl dinner.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Exactly. That's not it. You're gaslighting me. Oh my God, you just gaslighting me about that gaslighting. I'm trying to remember other therapy terms, but I can't even do it. What are the other ones? I don't know. I only watch a little bit of trauma, a lot of gaslighting, a lot of boundary setting.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. But I think this is one of the situations that's like your friends were like, oh, you need to have boundaries with her. And it's like, okay, get out of my house. Like, I don't know. I would have maybe not singled them out. I would have just been like, hey, guys, I'm really tired. Like, let's play Scrabble later.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I wouldn't have just cast this person out of my house. Hear me out. I'm a popular opinion I think 2026 and beyond and I've already seen a couple
Starting point is 00:32:44 of think pieces and I think a lot of this has to do with Travis Kelsey Uh huh I think we should start adopting like the social policies when I mean that
Starting point is 00:32:56 in terms of like interacting in a thing like this of just your average fantasy football dude bro you know hear me out no hear me out hear me out hear me out everyone
Starting point is 00:33:05 everyone would be better off if people just got like 40% chiller. Julia was asking me, so I went with all my best friends from college. We had a group of like 10 dudes, got an Airbnb up on Pismo Beach. Great.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And she was asking me, like, so how do you guys figure out, like, who's going to get groceries and who's going to, like, cook and what you're going to eat and what you're going to drink? And we're like, oh, I don't know. Well, just people all show up and we kind of see what we have.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And then whoever, like, gets up earliest just kind of goes and grab something. And no one really, like, Venmo's each other. We kind of just assume it'll all even out in the end. And I was like, yeah, like no one, you know, we ended up with like 400 beers and no one brought hard alcohol or anything else. And we all just said, that's fine. Good. You know, Nico showed up with 100 raw whale eggs and six pounds of rabbit meat.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And so, like, cool, that's what we'll cook. And then I went to a Mexican market because I wanted to make an obscure, like, a pre-Hispanic dish called Michote de Conejo. And no one put in any opinions all that. They just went, dude, sick. And I made it. We were eating rabbit meat. In quail eggs, and drinking beer, and not a single person had a complaint or a single piece of drama throughout the entire day. And I think we need to bring some of that chillness.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I don't think we're perfect. I don't think we're perfect. A lot of blind items there. A lot of blind spots. Tell you what. But I think if everyone got 30% chiller, you know, I think we'd be better off. Bro, I'm hella chill. I think you would really enjoyed all the quail eggs.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Bro, I'm hella chill. I'm so chill right now. You're super chill. The chill is. I'm a chill. I'm a chill. I'm not like other girls. I'm a chill girl.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Do I'm chillando. All right, Nicole. All right. Let's see what the people have to say. Joshua. Yes, sir. Nicole. I've had a little drink tonight, and I just want to put you on to something that you might be aware of because you two are avid alcohol consumers, like myself. I am.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Chocolate Fair Life, Josh, I'm looking at you. I love chocolate. And macros are great on it. Peanut butter whiskey. I'm using screwball, but any peanut butter whiskey, mixed together tastes like a Reese's cup. up. Yeah, I believe you. Let me know if you've done this before and if I'm, I have a problem because I might. I love you guys. I love the podcast. I'm not going to give you my name where I'm from. I'm a mystery. Love you. Goodbye. You're enigma, babe. You're an enigma. What I love
Starting point is 00:35:54 that he called and went, not going to lie, I'm a little lit. And then I love that we found out what he was lit on was chocolate fair life milk. I hope he's talking, I hope he's not talking about the milk and he's talking about the fair life core power shake. Oh, no, it's probably, it's Probably the milk. Probably the milk. Pretty identical, though. Mixed with screwball peanut butter whiskey, got to be incredible, right?
Starting point is 00:36:16 That's a good time. Do you like drinking like white Russians and Kaluas and stuff? Are you a fan of that stuff? I have, yes. I feel like I have one of the more resilient digestive systems, or I'm also just okay with being sick all the time. So it's got to be one of the two things. So I'm very good at consuming milk alcohol.
Starting point is 00:36:37 there was one time we were actually on tour in Atlanta and we went to this like kind of pool hallie dive bar and someone tries to order an old fashion and the guy goes no I'm not making you that man nothing more nothing more than two ingredients and we're like what this is what an old fashion is like barely more than two ingredients who is his bartender just a certainly yeah ran in and went a public pool the next day really nice guy I think he was having a bad day make him a lemon he asked for a lemon drop and so I would just order the worst two ingredient drinks possible and I would just like look in his fridge to see what he had and he was like yeah give me a milk and gin and you said two ingredients give me a milk and gin straight no rocks and give me a yeah give me a oh josh what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:37:16 blue blue holiday red bowl and kalua and so i was doing this patrol didn't it curdle didn't it's fine i was right i ripped it like a shot i chugged it um and so i can drink anything i drink a lot of alcohol um recently me and my buddy were trying to find our new go-to dive bar drink okay and we decided that a uh a screwball and diet is our move it tastes terrible Diet Coke with peanut butter whiskey Yum I mean it's as good as anything A vodka soda doesn't taste good
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah yeah yeah yeah Might as well be peanut butter Diet Coke I like peanut butter That makes sense to me Why does that make sense to me People put peanuts in coke all the time See you love it
Starting point is 00:37:53 And so this The chocolate The peanut Screwball super sweet It sounds great Put it on the rocks Give me a straw Let me rip it
Starting point is 00:38:02 I'm a little worried About milk alcohol Because I can't do too much milk alcohol, I can do like one. Like one white Russian, one like black Russian. Black Russian is no milk. Sorry, white Russian. But like, do I really need it?
Starting point is 00:38:16 I feel like I can get more like citrusy, alcohol-y things down better. I don't know. I kind of love like a fun, creamy liquor-up drink. Just the thought of me shaking my belly and it made, sorry, filled with milk kind of and alcohol makes me kind of a little bit gaggy. Nope. Not in like a good, not in like a good, not in like a. Not like a gaggy, but like, gaggy.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Well, I have terrible tastes is a thing. Yeah, that's right. I always forget. Yeah, I once ruined a party by bringing homemade artisanal jello shots. Zero discernible taste when it comes. You just want to do what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah, 100%. I brought, like, 200 jello shots to this party. Oh my God, and what were they? And someone took up. So I made like, you know, it was like a fun, like, salted, spicy margarita jello shot. And then one was like a mango situation. The other was like a strawberry. And why were they so bad?
Starting point is 00:39:04 So I forgot that most Jello shots don't have a lot of alcohol in them And I was like I need at least a full ounce of liquor In each one? Yeah, because that's what like a shot is I don't know And so they were good They were like well-seasoned
Starting point is 00:39:17 But yeah, you were chewing a lot of tequila And so I made 200 of these And people weren't drinking them But then the party 200 ounces Yeah It wasn't like an ounce It wasn't like an ounce each
Starting point is 00:39:29 But it was a lot And then anyways That's a gallon and a half of alcohol The party ran out of other alcohol and suddenly all we had were my jello shots and people wanted to keep going. And I eventually put them on a tray and I went hand-passed on this because I'm like, I got to move some product. And then people would take them and they just be like, oh, ew. And I go, they're artisanal, you monsters. They're not even that artisanal.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They're just filled with it. They were going to puree my own freaking mango. Wait a second. Wait a second. You use the two-ounce deli cups and half of that was pure liquor? Roughly. What's wrong with you? I don't know. Dude, I miss alcohol so much. I can't wait to give birth
Starting point is 00:40:12 and then just drink a spicy. I don't even want spicy I want a salty margarita. I want to turn this peanut buttermilk alcohol in a jello shot, so what I'm saying. That's fine. That's reasonable. I can't wait to drink. I can't wait to have my first drink back. I'm going to buy you your first legal drink. All right, next opinion. Thank you so much mystery, man. You have great taste. Hey, guys. Love the fuck. But first,
Starting point is 00:40:30 I think that all wedding receptions should be where they just run out at a restaurant and all the people that go can just go and go whatever they want. Our friend was getting married and she owned two Arby's locations. Yes. And so for her reception, we just had free Arbyes for like hours. And you just go out to order whatever you want. That's cool. And then they'll just get it to super fast and it was awesome. So that should be forever reception.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Anyways, bye. That's sick. That's sick. to say something, American slash white people weddings, reception and what is the other thing? Ceremony? I don't understand why we do what we do. Like sometimes people, like sometimes people go to a church
Starting point is 00:41:10 and then they go to a venue? They'll go to a church and then an Arby's. Like, what? Just get married at one point. Sorry, I'm not apologizing for my culture. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I don't get, I just... We believe in a Christian God and we believe in Arby's roast beef and cheddar.
Starting point is 00:41:24 You literally got married at the same place you had your party, which is really... This one thing I'll never understand. understand about, like, I think Persians do weddings really well. The one thing I'll never understand about other cultures is like getting married somewhere and then making everyone travel to
Starting point is 00:41:40 another place, like a mile and a half. What are you doing? I don't like when white people do it. I like when non-white people do it, period. Because when white people do it. Stay in one place. Unless you have some sort of like very special white person place to go. It's like, oh, this is the church that my
Starting point is 00:41:58 family got married in. Well, they have a Well, don't they have a reception hall in that church? No, but also it's like we like the party. Also, no, not all churches have reception halls. My... They have outdoors. Friend Nick, who got married in Greece, which he... Stavros Halkius has a joke about this, how Greeks are only considered white because, like,
Starting point is 00:42:16 white supremacists want to claim ancient Greek statues and stuff. You know what I mean? Because, like, yeah, if you look at a lot of the similar, I mean, Greece is right next to Turkey, you know what I mean? And a lot of fair cultures. And anyways, the point is... Sure. I went to, you know, this Greek Orthodox ceremony that was all...
Starting point is 00:42:30 In ancient Greek. And I'm sure it was beautiful. But we drove to the top of a mountain. Well, that's an experience. To a tiny hermitage, you know. Josh. And then it was an hour ceremony. Then we drove down this mountain to a big reception hall and just got ripped off Mataksa and Uzo and Mastika.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Okay, but like did they supply transportation? Yes, but it was crazy. It was nuts. Okay. Supplying transportation, I think, is what you have to do if you're going to have a ceremony and a reception at two separate places. If you're not going to do that, I hate you. You know what I mean? I'm just mad.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Like, if you got, if you got married in the Arby's, I would have had respect for you, but you're telling people to go one place, another place. The issue is, I don't care about the Arby's. The Arby's of it all, Mazel Tov, I hope you have the most beautiful fruitful marriage. I want Arbys now. Like, eat a beef and cheddar,
Starting point is 00:43:19 make sure your wedding ring is, you know, shiny, whatever. I just hate that. The assumption was it was in two different places, and this is what pisses me off. This is the hill I die on. I die on this hill. I feel sad For you
Starting point is 00:43:32 You can't comprehend Going to a lovely Episcopalian church And then an Arby's And that is part of my people's culture You just know it's not Because you literally got married At a restaurant
Starting point is 00:43:44 You literally took part of the restaurant You had a hoopa You had an officiant And you did your wedding And then three steps that way Was the reception Which is totally normal This is me crying for my white passing brethren
Starting point is 00:43:57 I got married outside I know. So I get treated like these people. Oh my God. I get treated like these people. You're so annoying. But like, you know, you get married outside. Like, I got married outside under a gazebo and then my party was inside.
Starting point is 00:44:11 What are you talking about? I'm sorry. This is like one of those things. Yeah, you also got married on a Sunday. I just have to work the next day. Everyone gets married on Sunday. I'm Jewish. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:44:20 You want me to have a wedding at 9 o'clock at night whenever it's sundown on a Saturday? No respect. You know what? This man has zero respect not only for Judaism. You can push a button on the Sabbath. It's fine. The rabbi wouldn't have come. The rabbi wouldn't have come.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And then God knows who. You want me to get some random geek off the street to marry me? No, I wanted that rabbi. Well, actually, my mother's not wanted that rabbi. He's like this crazy Turkish rabbi. That's really important. I don't know. It's Turkish?
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah. Turkish do? Yeah, there's a lot of them. Just open your eyes. All right. Well, on that note, thank you so much for stopping my hot dog's sandwich. Meggy! Okay, fine.
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Starting point is 00:45:06 Get drug. Don't get drunk. Call us. I had an Uber driver yesterday who was from Uppsala, Sweden. But I believe he was Armenian Christian. Cool. And then he was talking about all the Jews in Uppsala. And actually, in a really interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Sorry, not in Uppsala, in Malma, and talked about like there was a Hungarian guy, I forgot his name, but who like smuggled a bunch of Jews from Nazi Germany into Sweden. And they stayed there. And it was really cool. But then... Is he one of those righteous Gentile guys? Well, it started talking to me a lot about Armageddon. And the Jews roll in it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Bestie. Stop talking to Uber drivers. So we're... Click the no communication option. I took it to... And we're like there. And for like five minutes he's telling me about how Jews are going to bring about these weird prophecies. Yeah, that's why we're the chosen people.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I know. love it. And I'm literally pulling, I'm like trying to go out. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like trying to leave. And there's like a car honking at us. But he's just like, he's locked in. He's like three and a half years. Three and a half years is going to happen. The tribe of Hezekiah, you know about this? And I'm like, yeah, I love it. Can I leave? It's my favorite. I'll see you guys. Bye.

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