A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Is A Chicken Nugget A Meatball? (Live at VidCon)

Episode Date: August 17, 2022

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This, this, this, this is Bithical. Hey Nicole! Hey Josh! What has four legs and recorded a live podcast at VidCon that we're releasing right now? Us? Yeah, but I think Brittany Broski and Sarah Schauer too. This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, live! Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich.

What? All right, so Nicole, this is the first ever live podcast that we recorded. That's true. It was very exciting. We were at VidCon

down at the Anaheim Convention Center the first time. Real life fans, hot doggers, mythical kitchen beasts. Hot doggers. We haven't named

our fan group yet. We call them hot doggers on the podcast, but we don't have a mythical kitchen fan name. I like hot doggers. Officially hot doggers on the podcast, but we don't have a Mythical Kitchen fan. I like hot doggers. Officially hot doggers? For the podcast.

It hath been spoken. Okay. But a big thank you to everybody who came out to VidCon, to the live podcast. We did a bunch of panels. We ate a lot of Vietnamese snails

and drank a lot of beer. It was so nice to meet so many of you for the first time. It was incredible. Yeah, it was truly incredible to meet everybody in person and see the joy on their faces.

That's right. Of course. After hearing our truly upsetting opinions about whether or not a chicken nugget is a meatball. Yeah, that was our subject topic. Yep. That's correct. Again, to everyone who is at the recording live, thank you so, so, so much for coming out.

And all of you listening at home, I hope you enjoy this special live recording of a hot dog. I thought Nicole was going to do it. Nope. A hot dog is a... Nicole, do... A hot dog is a sandwich. No, I don't want to do it. Live. Fine was going to do it. Nope. A hot dog is a... Nicole, do... A hot dog is a sandwich. No, I don't want to do it.

Live. Fine, I'll do it. Enjoy. Enjoy. There's no stair for me. Nicole has short little legs. It's not her fault. It's not her fault. Anyways, welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show we break down the world's biggest food debates.

I'm your host, Josh Ayer. And I'm your host, Nicole Inaidi. And welcome to the first ever live edition of VidCon. Woo-hoo! This is awesome! Show of hands, how many people are only here for the air conditioning? Yeah! Yeah! I'm sweaty. I am sweaty all over in unimaginable places. It is absolutely brutal.

But today, Nicole and I have saved the most important, the most high-minded, intelligent question we've ever asked ourselves for you people here today. Is a chicken nugget a meatball? Round of applause for that question alone. Thank you. Hold on. No, this is deceptively important. Nicole, your opening thoughts.

No. Of course a chicken nugget is not a meatball. I think that they're like distant cousins, like on the dad's side. But no, I don't think that chicken nuggets and meatballs are the same thing. Are they like the cousins that you don't actually know how you're related to them? Because we all have those cousins too, right? Where you're like, I don't think there's any... They're the cousins you see at the wedding and you're like, hi.

And then you walk away. You know what I mean? No, but I just... You're like, how's school going? And they're like, I'm 27. And you're like, oh, sorry. Not walk away. You know what I mean? No, but I just... You're like, how's school going? And they're like, I'm 27. You're like, oh. Oh, sorry. You're not getting the double doctorate, huh?

I don't know. I mean, meatball, ball of meat, nugget, no equal ball, nugget flat shape. Hold on, hold on. I'd like to counter one of your claims where nugget, no equal ball. Nugget, no equal ball. That's a very intelligent statement right there, Nicole, unless you think about the four shapes of the McDonald's McNugget. I knew you were going to bring that up. Everybody at once.

Boot. Boot. Bone. Bell. Bell. Ball. Wait, how many of you actually knew that there were four shapes of McDonald's? Wow.

We're with some pros in the audience here. Did you know that because of us or because of independent study? Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. Keith is a close scholar of several of our shared interests. Correct. No, but that's because it's a ball in the words of like a bouncy ball.

So when you put it to the side, it looks like a ball straight on, but when you put it to the side, it's not a ball. It's flat. It's a circle. It's not a sphere. it to the side, it's not a ball. It's flat. Wait, not. It's a circle. It's not a sphere. It's a circle. It's not a sphere.

Speaking of bouncy balls and nuggets, though, quick aside. Y'all ever, okay, so growing up, school lunches, you had, like, two options. It was chicken nuggets, it was pizza, and then it was absolutely nothing else. Sandwich. Yeah, they had, like, it was a turkey ham sandwich at my school. It was a PB&J with a side of milk. But did you ever have long-distance nugget-mouncing competitions? No.

There were some days. I had to save my food. No, V and I both went to public school in Southern California. I went to public school, too. I never bounced my nuggets against other students. You went to the fancy public school, though. You went to the Beverly Hills public school. It doesn't count. Y'all got the organic vegan nuggets, free-range chicken out to the fancy public school, though. You went to the Beverly Hills public school. It doesn't count.

Y'all got the organic vegan nuggets, free-range chicken out there. No, no, no. You go to the public school nuggets. They would get so hard from being under the heat lamp after a while that you couldn't chew through them. And so you're like, well, all we can do now is bounce these for distance.

It was like playing long-distance quarters at a party except with nuggets as a child. What would you do for sustenance and food when your chicken nuggets were in the dirt being bounced around? You would eat Flamin' Hot Cheetos and Pop-Tarts like any respectable kid in school. That's how you get nutrition.

I guess. Snickers bars? Calorically dense, delicious. Okay, meatballs. Contact. First, first, first. We must define a meatball. How would you define a meatball?

A ball of meat that is cooked. Okay, but at what shape, I would ask, We must define a meatball. How would you define a meatball? A ball of meat that is cooked. Okay, but at what shape, I would ask, does a meatball cease to be a ball and simply be a lump of meat? Do we have any PhDs in geometry out here? Like hardcore quantum geometrists. Where are you at? They're at the other podcast. They're at the other one.

This is like, is there a doctor on the plane? Do we have a geometrist in the audience right now? We got one. We got one. Shut up. What is, okay, do you know the actual shape of the globe, of the Earth and what it's called? It's not a sphere.

What is it? It's not a sphere because spheres only exist in theory, right? Spheres do not exist in reality. No matter what, Nicole, there is... Hold on. No, no, no. I'm making a point. What in the world is he saying?

You're booing me. I'm right. Nobody's booing you. That's in your own head. Like a basketball, a bouncy ball. Okay, a basketball. It's a perfect sphere, right? Yes.

Because there's always going to be one, like the Socratic forms. This is important. He always brings up... Spheres only exists in theory because no matter what, if you are drawing a triangle on a chalkboard, a wind is going to blow

one of the grains of chalk astray so it is no longer perfect down to the minutia. So the Earth is not a sphere. It is an oblate spheroid. That is the actual shape of the Earth. Oh, so is the Earth an oblate spheroid? So there is no such thing as a perfect meatball, Nicole. Okay, but I'm not looking for perfection.

That's not what I said. I'm not looking for perfection. I'm looking for taxation, I guess. I'm looking for like taxonomy. But no, I don't think a chicken nugget is a ball. I think a chicken nugget's flat. It's a flat with a ridge. It's a patty. Thank you. A chicken nugget is a patty. Nicole, you are not one to talk about bloated nuggets because do you remember my criticism of your now we're just gonna have personal fights up fine whatever do you remember fancy fast food mcdonald's mcnuggets yeah what about nuggets they were pregnant they were pregnant nuggets and they were not. But they were beautiful. Pregnancy is a beautiful part of life. Josh.

You yourself made meatballs and tried to pass them off as nuggets. So either you have to renounce your production work on that episode. I'll tell you exactly what happened. The tempura batter made it look also more pregnant. No, no, no, no, no. Don't you dare try and back out of this. I saw them before they were battered. They were a little.

But I think that was a decision you and I both made in order to make it look that way, right? No, you made the decision. I kind of caved and went along with it and I'm totally fine with that. I mean, sure, at that point, but when I'm thinking about like, you know, when you think in your mind,

you think of a chicken nugget, you think of a six-piece McNugget from McDonald's. Why don't they have meatballs on the menu at that point? Why doesn't McDonald's have meatballs on the menu at that point? Why doesn't McDonald's have meatballs on the menu? Maybe they do and you just don't know because they're called McNuggets. They could be called McMeatballs. But then you're mixing the Irish Reef with the Italian Meatball and that's just

confusing for people. I'm so frustrated right now. Okay, wait, hold on. Let me ask you then. What if, what if, what if? Because a nugget, right? A nugget, it is seasoned ground meat that has been processed and packed into a certain shape. A certain shape. But it can be any shape.

What about a dinosaur meatball? That doesn't exist. A dinosaur meatball isn't real. I thought you meant made out of real dinosaur meat. No. Because there's the scientists that are like. You don't have the technology yet. Yet.

But it's, okay. In our lifetime, and I think in the time that we will still be making content, they're going to figure out how to clone dinosaur flesh. Who is the world going to look to Nicole to cook that dinosaur flesh? Us. That's incredible. Thank you. Us. Thank you. Thank you. You know, they do have, there's like a meat company that's making meat to taste like lion meat stuff, which I think is the wildest thing in the world. Sorry for that segue. Okay, another factor that we are not considering is chicken nuggets typically breaded.

Okay, yeah, no, that's fair. Meatballs never breaded. Hold on. Have you ever been to the old TGI Fridays, Nicole? Answer the question, please. Yes, I have been once or twice. Do you know what the TGI Fridays will do with macaroni and cheese? What will they do with macaroni? Well, if you pay them the small price of $ what the TGI Fridays will do with macaroni and cheese? What will they do with macaroni? If you pay them the small price of $9.99, they will take that macaroni and cheese,

and they will ball it up, and they will panko crust it, and they will fry it, and it is absolutely delicious. Is it called a meatball? Blue Lagoon Margarita. Is it called a meatball, though? For me, thanks. No, it's a mac and cheese ball. It doesn't cease to be mac and cheese once it has been panko crusted and fried.

It is still mac and cheese, in my opinion. The soul of the dish, Nicole, is the same. If you take a meatball, you were to panko crust and fry it. You're gripping that mic real hard, dude. Sorry, I get really passionate. I get really passionate about this. There's no way. I think that just becomes a nugget at that point.

No! Hold on. You agree that a meatball can be made out of chicken? A meatball can be made out of chicken. A meatball can be made out of chicken, yes. And if you were to take that chicken meatball, say even you sliced it in half, Nicole, and then you fried it and you served it with a little bit of that honey mussy, you know, the good stuff with the spicy brown honey mussy. I'm talking about honey mussy in front of our friends.

We're a big honey mussy family. We put our whole honey mussy into it. I'm just so dedicated tosy in front of our friends. We're a big honey mussy family. We put our whole honey mussy into it. I'm just so dedicated to the shape of a meatball. There's like nothing else in the world. You see it. You know what it is. You know, sometimes meatballs get a little bit flat, but they have a dome. The dome.

It exists. I don't think. Okay. You're talking about meatballs being flat, right? Sometimes on the bottom, the meatball gets flat and that's fine. That's not a big deal. That's not a deciding factor. I'm saying the intention is for it to be round,

and if it kind of flattens out, so what? A little bit. But there's a definite form whenever the meatball falls, and it turns into a flat piece of meat, and at that point, you have to step aside and say, I made a sheet of nuggets. You just got to do that. The road to nugget hell is paved with round intentions, Nicole.

Sorry, it took way too long to try and figure out how that would be phrased for roughly no payoff. So thank you for being there with me. Okay, we make a lot of meatball content. We just love balls of meat. We've talked about this. Yeah, we make a lot of meatball content. Meatball versus meatloaf dichotomy. Meatballs are sexy.

Meatloaf is garish. We talked about how we need Chris Angel on board. If anybody has a contact with Chris Angel and his team, I don't think he's doing much these days, and we'd love to have him in on a project. Yeah, we're down to get mind freaked. Yeah, freak my mind, Chris. Whatever we make meatballs, like I always say,

the best way to do it is you make the meat mixture, whether you're doing Italian meatballs, Swedish meatballs, whatever, and then you deep fry it. Because if you don't deep fry it, it doesn't become round at all. If you pan sear it, you're immediately... It gets weird sides. I was watching Lily make meatballs the other day, and she seared it on

three sides, and it created this like rounded pyramid shaped thing. I was like, that's so far, Nicole. But for all intents and purposes, it still eats like a meatball, right? A nugget sensation when you're eating it in your mouth is different than a meatball sensation when you eat it in your mouth.

I like when you say nugget sensation. That's my new perfume line, nugget sensation. What is, okay, so I actually saw another question, not to divert topic. I saw another question. Never.

That was about, it was a publication called The Takeout that recently wrote a piece about Nick DiGiovanni. Yes. He made the world's largest nugget. I saw that with Linja. With Linja. Yeah.

And then this publication was like, well, according to the dictionary, a nugget has to be small. So this is not a nugget because it's big. It's like, well, no, it's not a prototypical nugget, right? It's not the ideal nugget. They should be small. I don't believe a nugget should be a perfect sphere.pical nugget, right? It's not the ideal nugget. They should be small.

I don't believe a nugget should be a perfect sphere. You know what I mean? That's the prototype of it. Of course a nugget isn't a perfect sphere. A nugget is never a sphere. But Nicole, we do not. A meatball is the sphere. I'm not talking to Nicole anymore. We don't live in a perfect world, okay?

Do you know he does this too, like in the podcast room? He does this to prove a point sometimes. Okay, continue. For the silent treatment. I think, okay, we need to come up with like a minimum definition of meatball hood, right? Because to me, nuggets don't have to have a certain shape. You know what I mean? What are you talking about?

Yes, we do. I agree with you. There should be an element of roundness. I think there has to be. Okay, we're getting somewhere. Elements of roundness. Okay, that's good. I don't know if it's the intention of roundness that actually matters.

Because if you think about the meatballs and pho, right? Also, some of the best pho in all of America is within three miles of y'all. I grew up in Little Saigon in Fountain Valley out here. Please, before you all leave to go home, just Google any Vietnamese restaurant and go there and it's probably going to be super dank. Yeah, we've had incredible food here. Get the meatball pho, so y'all get this reference, but the meatballs in there, they are not

round, right? They're very flat. And the term meatball, you know, in that... What are you talking about? How flat are they? They're like sliced. Okay, it's a sliced meatball at that point. It was round to begin with. You're not making any sense right now. A meatball. Keep hitting the table.

Did you order the code red? You're not making any sense right now. No, I'm telling you. Well, yeah, it started out as round, and then for ease of eating, they cut it into pieces, right? So it started out as round. Meatballs are round. You'll see the same relationship going on

at the Sbarro you get a you get a meatball slice of pizza that's flattened meat on there you know but does that

cease to be a meatball does it cease to be a meatball once the shape has changed that has nothing to do with nuggets is it just a piece of meatball no no no but then if you were to

take that and you were to fry it that looks like the prototypical nugget ergo as a nugget radicalist I believe almost everything is a nugget, ergo, as a nugget radicalist, I believe almost everything is a nugget.

Almost everything is a nugget. Almost everything is a nugget. Is this a nugget? I said almost. Don't be like, oh, dude, there's free water? Heck yeah. Yeah, get some water. You've been talking for a long time.

It's like nine water bottles. Anyone want one? Say three bucks. Well, the definition of meatballs, according to Merriam-Webster, is small ball of chopped meat often mixed with breadcrumbs and spices. And then the definition of a chicken nugget is small pieces of chicken fried in batter. Chicken nuggets, oh, this is from Britannica.

Chicken nuggets are a battered and breaded product that is marinated before coating. Is it? I always want to sit down with the dictionary. Wait, wait, hold on. Read it one more time. Read it one more time. Britannica says, and I quote, chicken nuggets are a battered and breaded product

that is marinated before coating. Is Britannica in like Britain? Oh. Maybe chicken nuggets in Britain are different than, maybe chicken nuggets in Britain are different than the ones we have here. All right, bro. You think chicken nuggets are different?

More? You want more? Yeah, one, I would not trust the Brits. Sorry. Marinated before coding. I wouldn't trust them. They call fried chicken sandwiches chicken burgers. You can't even use Wikipedia in a middle school essay.

We're not going to use it for this very intense research based podcast. I love Wikipedia. I used Wikipedia so much in high school. Do you know how chicken nuggets were invented? Or at least the theory. There's a couple theories because every food origin story is absolutely bogus. You can take it away. Okay, so like the McRib

for instance, right? It was literally invented because there was a huge surplus of pork. Yeah, welcome to food history with Josh. There was a huge surplus of pork and the American Pork Board literally went to a food scientist at University of Nebraska-Lincoln, and he was like, hey, can you find some big businesses just to use up all this extra pig meat?

And so they go to McDonald's, and they're like, we got a bunch of pig meat. What can you do with it? And then they were like, ah, we put mick in front of everything else. Mick pig meat? And they were like, what if you called it the Mc rib instead? And they're like, okay.

And that's how it was invented. And it was similar with chicken. We had, like, so many excess chickens in America, especially after World War II. Farming really blew up. That they were like, we can't keep all this meat fresh, so we got to break it down. We got to freeze it. We got to salt it so it stays fresh. What can we do with it?

And apparently, this is when, this is in the 70s, when chicken nuggets really hit the mainstream. And they were influenced by Chinese American restaurants serving what Britannica kind of described there as, you know, little marinated. Nugget meats. Bits of meat. You get your orange chicken, your General Tso's, the cashew chicken, all that.

And so that's like how like Chinese American restaurants kind of influenced. But those are nuggets of chicken. They're not chicken nuggets. Wait, hold on. I I wait hold on I agree you agree I agree with that okay we're getting somewhere because I think a nugget to be a nugget has to be ground and processed yeah I will agree with you on that one thing but I also it only took us getting to VidCon to agree Josh um but also ground meat is also a meatball. I think it's the shape. I think it's the intent.

I think it's the battering. I think it's the deep frying that really sets apart a nugget from a meatball. So you think that there's an actual angle at which... Because we agree that the breading doesn't matter that much. Because you can certainly bread and fry a meatball. Sure, yeah, you could. But there's like the thickness. Are you down with the thickness, Nicole? Can you do the disturb thing? We need Trevor because he's the only one that can do it. Yeah, Trevor's the only one

who can do it. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. That did not go as well as I thought it would. So you think that there is an actual angle of curvature. I do. Which it transforms from nugget to ball. I have a Which it transforms from nuggets to ball. I have a question before I answer that silly, silly question, Josh. It's very clear and straightforward. We made a video where you made meat into different nuggets.

Didn't you? Why didn't you just call it meatballs? A nugget has higher SEO value. Welcome to the creator track panel where we're talking about how to manipulate the algorithm folks. If you ever wonder why we do anything with changing a title or thumbnail, it's like, well, 0.2% more people.

But it's really not that much of an art. It's more of a science at that point. But no, I mean, people, I think nuggets, meatloaf is not as sexy as meatballs is not as sexy as nuggets. Nuggets are a nostalgic fun food that people love. So I think there's like a higher recognition value in a nugget

than a meatball. I'm not lobbying that we change all nuggets to balls. Are you sure? Because I feel like you are. I feel like that's exactly what your point is. We need to recognize them as the same because they're made of the same component parts. If I go to Ikea and I say, hey, give me the nuggets and they

hand me meatballs, I'm like, what? And then if I go to Ikea and I say, hey, give me the nuggets and they hand me meatballs, I'm like, what? And then if I go to McDonald's and I say, hey, give me some meatballs, fam, and they give me nuggets, I'm like, oh, thank you. It's just not the same. Can we talk about Ikea meatballs and how they're the most overrated food? I've never had them. Are they good? Hold up. Wait, wait. Who had a strong shock reaction

to that? Defend Ikea meatballs in six words. They are amazing and good. They are words. They are amazing and good. They are amazing and good. Five. Yeah. End it with a yeah. Period. Period. I see that.

I ate a lot of frozen meatballs growing up. They're so squishy. How do they get the bounce? I feel like you could just bounce it into a basketball hoop. Horse meat. No, legally we cannot say that I can't put horse meat. No, I'm just kidding. Sorry, I can't. And everybody, we're going to confiscate your recording vices if you have that on camera.

We cannot handle another protracted lawsuit in the Mythical Kitchen. Have you ever been to a place, Josh, or a family gathering of sorts? I've been to a place before, Nicole. Go on. Where they put skewers in the chicken nuggets. Like, me either,

because they only do that with meatballs because you use your hands, because you use your hands to pick up a nugget, because normally the meatballs are coated or you are dipping them in something, okay? I feel like when both of us run for Congress against each other, I feel like this is how it's gonna be.

This is really good practice. You did not support SRB 751. You do not. This is really good practice for us. Good stuff. Yeah, yeah. Everyone vote for our budding political careers out here. I feel, I don't, I just think that we need to take a stronger stance on

what different ground meat products are because here's the worst. You're trying to lump it all together. I'm trying to get them separated because they deserve autonomy, Josh. You're just trying to lump them all together like a big lumpy meatball. Before we break it down into their proper parts, we need to lump them together, Nicole. No. We need to lump them together before we can divide it because my worst opinion in all this is that all these are sausages.

Oh. Boo. Boo! Boo! Boo this man! I don't think, I think the idea of a sausage is it has to sit, right? A sausage has to sit for a little bit? Yeah, yeah. Well, not all sausages have casings. Not all sausages have casings.

Think about McDonald's breakfast sausage. The greatest sausage in the history of sausages. And there ain't no, really, they scienced the heck out of that one to just like know what my body craves and needs.

That's really, really true. No, I'm sorry. Don't sausages need to like sit for a second to kind of like cure in a way? Yeah,

but I mean, think about the texture. Nicole, the bounce. The bounce is what makes sausage. We're always coming back to bouncing nuggets. That's what makes

a sausage sausage. I never bounce nuggets. I played, what is that thing when you would like jump over? Can someone door dash some like chicken nuggets right now so Nicole can bounce them and see what we're talking about? Josh, I wasn't doing that. Anybody have nuggets in their purse?

We don't have one. Do I have purse nuggets? Oh, I didn't pack my purse. They're in my other bag. Of all the fans of any podcast, it would be ours who would have a purse nugget person in the crowd. Yeah, that's true. To be fair. That's very true.

I don't, Josh, I don't think you, I think we're at an impasse here, sweetheart. Yeah, I don't think chicken nuggets are meatballs. You don't? No, no, no, no. But I do think it's a fun question, though. I do think it's a fun question. I just think they're separate.

I think they're separate. I think they're delicious the way they are. I don't think we need to pit two queens against each other. I don't think we need to lump them together at this point, you know? A chicken nugget is a chicken nugget. A meatball is a meatball. And a hot dog is a sandwich. What?

Oh, man. All right. I will officially capitulate on the debate. We never shake hands, by the way. Someone take a picture. Okay, cool. Nicole. Hey, Josh.

You've heard what you and I have to say. Now it's time for a segment we call Opinions Are Like Casserole. We've never done that in front of more than just our producer. It feels weird. It felt natural to me. You want to do it again? Do we want to sing the full song? One, two, one, two, three.

Opinions are like casseroles. Everyone's got one and they smell like onions. That's all we got. We've hit about seven words. If someone wants to write a full length thing, we will upload it to Spotify.

Yeah, just tweet it to us. Does anyone in the audience have cool food opinions they want to share with the class? Yeah, if y'all want to start lining up, does this microphone work? Come speak. Anyone anyone we'll judge you to your face but we'll be nice orderly orderly i'm too short for this yeah shortness is a mindset

please state your name my name is kathleen was surprised at the meet and greet earlier. Yes, yes. I think blueberries are overrated. I don't like them. Ooh. Ooh, no, this is a great opinion. Oh, yeah. Hold on. I eat almost a pound of blueberries a day.

That's a real statistic in my life. I keep like four sacks of them in the Mythical Kitchen freezer. That's right. And sometimes they'll just be like on the counter because Nicole's like, we have things for work that we need to put in the freezer. We can't just store 10 pounds of your blueberries in there. I'm like, well, I don't even enjoy them though. Blueberries are easily the worst berry. I get them because they're cheap at the store

and they're convenient. Thank you. But no, I once met a man who had not eaten a blueberry until he was 30 years old and I watched him eat a blueberry for the first time and he was just like, and he ate it and he was like, it tastes like nothing.

And I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah. I agree with that. Most overrated berry. Yeah. Blueberries, they don't do it for me. I mean, whenever you get a really delicious like pack of blueberries though, like fresh ones, those are like delicious.

For the most part, blueberries don't do it for me. I love blackberries. I love raspberries. Give me strawberries. But blueberries, it's not it did you know strawberries aren't actually berries yes I did Josh we debated it I think sorry that's uh that's the most

annoying thing that anyone's ever said to me not you not you the strawberries aren't berries if they go in my in my super berry surprise sundae at the IHOP then it's a berry bananas are a berry yes they are yeah day at the IHOP, then it's a berry. But bananas are a berry. Oh, don't get me started. Yes, they are.

Kathleen, I agree with you entirely. You are validated. Way to go. Thank you for your time and honesty. You're very brave, Kathleen. Thank you. Hi, my name is Sasha. What up, Sasha? How you doing? I'm good. How about you guys?

Good. Ranch on breakfast potatoes. Yes or no. When's the last time you did that? Okay. So the last, there is a very specific moment in which I do put ranch on breakfast potatoes and that is one of my favorite breakfast burritos in the city, which it's like 80% potato, which is sometimes what I want. Cause if I'm eating a breakfast burrito, sometimes it's to soak up alcohol from the night before and they give you a pack of ranch and this is like good ranch this is the diner ranch this is the homemade ranch that they definitely just put the ranch seasoning packet into sour cream and milk but it's really great the ranch hitting the breakfast potatoes wrapped in the tortilla is one of the most pure delightful experiences on this entire earth. I love it.

I like ranch and potatoes. Yeah, that's a good opinion. Way to go. Especially in the morning. Ranch in the morning, ranch in the night. I do it all the time. My friends always judge me. They're like, why don't you do ketchup?

I'm like, I don't want ketchup. You don't need them, honey. I don't want ketchup. Come hang out with us. I don't want the acidity. You don't need them. Call your friends right now. Right now, call your friends. What?

What? What? She's doing stuff right now. Right now. Call your friends. What? What? What? She's doing stuff right now. Make it at your own speed. But no, I love, I do like ranch and breakfast potatoes. That sounds really good right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Sounds good. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Hello. My name is Alex. My opinion is peanut butter and pickles are a good combo. Yeah. Yeah.

We tried this. We, okay. Peanut butter and pickles are a good combo. Yeah. We tried this. Okay, so when we started doing opinions are like casseroles, we noticed that like half of the hot takes and upsetting opinions were about peanut butter. So much peanut butter drama. So many opinions about peanut butter and foods.

It's incredible. We wish we could try all of these hot takes that people sent us, and we just simply don't have the time because we have a spreadsheet of like 3,000. Yeah, it's incredible. We're never going to run out. I love it. Y'all absolutely ride for your terrible opinions and I respect that. But we did try like 12 of the weird peanut butter ones one day and peanut butter and

pickles was the best one that I'd never had before. And salty. There's something so good about the combination. It's the fatty and the acid for me. Do you like crunchy peanut butter or smooth um i prefer smooth peanut butter okay like um like sandwiches and stuff but crunchy is really good for cookies okay great but what about with pickles um typically have smooth on hand smooth on hand okay okay nice peanut butter like it's the the texture combo isn't i like it too i mean i love it i. I think peanut butter and pickles is a delicious combination.

There's a reason why pregnant women like it. Because it's good. It's delicious. But yeah, I like it a lot. I mean, have you ever done peanut butter, banana, and mayonnaise? No. Mayo is disgusting. Oh, my God.

That's rude. Security. That's rude. Thank you for your time. Hi, I'm Tom. I think that orange chocolate is overrated and mint chocolate is the best. Do you mean orange chocolate?

Like the oranges you smash? No, like the Terry's oranges. Orange and chocolate. It's the artificial orange. The artificial orange is not good. Okay. Watch out, Tom. So my dad and I, whenever I was younger,

that was one of our favorite things to do was to smack a Terry's orange and share it between us. So I have a nostalgic feeling for it. So I feel personally attacked. No, I'm just kidding. But I do prefer mint chocolate to orange chocolate for sure. There's something about the way like the menthol-y mint and the cooling sensation with the luxurious chocolate just makes a lot of sense. Not only that orange and chocolate does. Orange and chocolate has its place, but I think it's

rooted in nostalgia for me personally. But mint chocolate chip ice cream all the way. Love anything minty, chocolatey. Yum, yum, yum. I'm a big mint chocolate guy. I love it, man. I don't know if I feel as strongly as you do about the orange and chocolate thing. That's between you and Nicole. Don't let me into that. We recently got Andy's Mints in the office. Big, big move. I have those in my purse. Unlimited bucket of Andy's Mints.

Every day, I finish eating any meal, and I'll grab an Andy's Mint, and I feel like I'm leaving the Olive Garden. What are they called after eight mints? Is that what they're called? There's actually a chocolate mint that's the fancy one. Yeah, yeah. I would have to eight or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Those are good. I just feel good,

man. Workplace morale all-time high because of mint chocolate. That's what fuels us. It's like 30% engagement from fans, 70% Andy's Mints. Hell yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

Howdy. So if you're not like me and you passed math. I didn't pass math. Okay, cool. No, I failed out of algebra too. So you're among friends. That makes me feel better. You would know that.

So a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. I believe that a burger, well, okay, I believe that a meatball is a burger, but a burger is not a meatball. Meatball, oh. What is a burger, but a burger? Oh, okay, wait, this is interesting. So you're saying a meatball is a burger. Yeah. So you're defining a burger as roughly anything primarily made of ground meat.

Correct, yeah. And I think I would agree with that, which if you go to Britain, though, or any Commonwealth country, actually, I was talking to some folks from India about this yesterday, actually. If you put anything on a round bun, what we would call a hamburger bun, they call it a burger. You get a fried chicken sandwich, like from Popeye's, say, in England, and they call that a chicken burger. That's what you were going into before. Yeah. Yeah. And so I wholeheartedly disagree with that. I, to me, a burger is made of ground meat and that is what makes a burger, a burger. But I think I would say that once you add breadcrumbs, eggs, anything additional, it ceases to become a burger. Have you had burgers that are like that? Like mixed like that? Yeah.

Me too. Me too. I think at that point it's a meatball too. So I think, I respect your opinion because I think it is logically sound, but I think I disagree with the fact that any addition to a burger makes it no longer a burger. And Guy Fieri also agrees. Because if you watch Triple D,

you can see like Guy Fieri's little passive aggressive mannerisms on that show sometimes. And if you watch Triple D and anybody adds an egg or whatever to a burger, he's like, all right, you're in meat, you're in meatloaf territory now,

but okay. Okay. Yeah. And I agree with him, but I do get, I do get your opinion. Okay. But that goes against everything that Nicole just said about the shape of

the actual thing, because you just said that a burger, if it has stuff in it, it's a it it's a it's a meat or wait did i say meatloaf or meatball okay yeah yeah see how it's hard to keep your opinions yeah there's there's a say something five minutes we say something else yeah i don't know i don't know i gotta think on this i gotta sleep on this opinion i gotta i gotta this is gonna become an actual hot dog as a sandwich. It probably will. It's going to go poorly.

What was your name? Will. Appreciate you, man. Yes, Will. Very nice. Hello. I was at the meet and greet this morning. Yes, yes. What did you eat for lunch?

Since then. We have not eaten. I just thought not gotta go eat yeah and I feel like this is a quick little side opinion I think that

a slightly unripe fruit is better than unripe fruit ooh which which ones most of them the ones that are like a little bit tangy

and like just a little bit sour and they're like you have to bite them they're not like slimy well in like Persian stores like whenever you go to the Persian grocery store're not, like, slimy. Well, in, like, Persian stores, like, whenever you go to the Persian grocery store,

there's a, like, there's a huge, crazy rush for whenever, like, unripened fruit is, like, on the shelves. So we have something called, like, unripe almonds, like chagallabadum, where it's literally an unripe almond, and it's crunchy. I've given it to the rest of the team. They're like, I don't understand this.

If you like sour, you'll like that. It's sour, and it's crunchy, and it's delicious. And you're like, the rest of the team. They're like, I don't understand this. If you like sour, you'll like that. It's sour and it's crunchy and it's delicious. And you're like, how is this going to turn into an almond? And then we also have something called gochisaps, which translates to green tomato, but it's not a green tomato. It's an unripened apricot. And those are like sour and crunchy and salty

and delicious. So I understand where you're coming from. But if I eat an unripe banana, I'm like emotionally scarred. I just don where you're coming from. But if I eat a ripe, but if I eat an unripe banana, I'm like emotionally scarred. I just don't like bananas. Yeah. Ah, okay. An unripe banana is like the worst flavor ever for me.

Yeah. It like coats your tongue and it's like sandpapery and it's just like, I don't need this in my life, you know? We found out I'm allergic to bananas because every time I would eat a banana before the podcast, I would uncontrollably burp and the roof of my mouth would burn. And then we eventually figured out it was all the bananas. I'd wash it down with a Diet Dr. Pepper and that didn't help.

Made the burps worse. I love like unripe mango or unripe papaya. If you make a salad out of it, that's really awesome. But I will say I love overripe fruit because ripeness is literally the process of decay happening, right? Sure.

There's something about that. I love overripe melons where you smell it and it almost gives you this bacterial funk. People say papaya smells like feet. I think I'm just a sicko. I'm just a sicko up here. I got sick thoughts, man. I got sick thoughts.

You get a peach that's so ripe that you bite into it and juice just runs down your throat. Yeah, that's good. Live a little. Let your fruit ripen. It depends on the fruit, but I think you're in good territory right now. I also, just real quick, feel like technically

guacamole is technically a jam because it's a fruit. Guacamole is technically a jam because it's a fruit. Okay, so the original, the first ever English language guacamole recipe was from, it was a pirate in the 1600s. Arr. And the only three ingredients were avocado, lime, and sugar.

Yum. Oh, oh, oh. That, that's definitely a jam. Someone write this down. Annalise, producer. She's right there. She's right there. Write these down.

Write these down. We'll credit you for the idea. Hi. Hello. My name is Twilon. I'm going to move. I'm short. Alright, I apologize. I don't have a food opinion, but a food question.

Do you guys know what cheese caves are? Cheese what? Cheese caves in Missouri. Cheese caves in Missouri. Cheese caves in Missouri. The cheese caves. The surplus of cheese that America is hoarding. Oh, I know all about the cheese caves. Is that what you're talking about?

Yes. Okay. I'm not sure where in Missouri, but I know it's in Missouri. Are you going to try and find them? Let's find the cheese caves. Let's take it to the streets. For those who don't know,

in like 1977, there was just like a disgusting surplus of like cheese Find the cheese caves. Let's take it to the streets. For those who don't know, in like 1977, there was just like a disgusting surplus of like cheese. And to keep like dairy farmers in business, Carter, our president, basically demanded that there was like cheese caves. So they just stored like a bunch of cheese underneath Missouri. And so they're real. And you can probably visit them.

Springfield. They're in a deep, they're in a state of deep freeze. There are literally millions of tons of cheese and most of it is, if you've heard of the government cheese program, which I grew up eating bricks of government cheese, that was the way that they were trying to get rid of that cheese surplus that's now just in caves is they would just cut out bricks

and now you hear it in rap lyrics and all that. And the funny thing is though, a lot of people think it was bad. It was actually really good. It was higher quality American cheese than, say, Kraft or the other competitors because it had strict FDA standards behind it. It might have been a Radiolab episode, another research-based podcast like ours, that went into it. And they talked to somebody who tested the cheese safety and purity standards, and it

was really interesting. If you want to go cave spelunking cheese cans, though, I'm in. That sounds like fun. Let's do it. I'm down. You know, hit me up on Instagram. Okay, so my name is Kate. Hi.

Hi. This is timely after what, but this feels like a very hot take. Cheese is very bad. Yes. No, true. Thank you. I agree.

Cheese is disgusting. We took the milk of another animal for its young and we let it rot? I freaking love cheese, man. We add little balls to it? Oh, and then we put in little balls with the nuts on it and spread it. It's disgusting. Can I tell you something? It is awful.

No, no, you are sick. You are disgusting. I can't look at you. My dad made me a shirt embroidered with the word cheese on it because he knew how much I loved it. If that's not the cutest thing and most disgusting thing in the world, I don't know what is. Cheese rocks. I know it's gross. No, cheese.

Okay. Cheese is gross in theory, but also so delicious. Like who doesn't love like bread, cheese, bread. Yum. You know how I know you love cheese? Put that on a t-shirt, dad. You know how I know you love cheese? How do you know?

Because you were always popping the lactate out your purse. Nicole is like, she eats lactate like Skittles now. It's upsetting. My cocktail of choice is two Tums, one lactate, shot of Pepto, done for the day. So embarrassing, so true. That's Nicole pre-g done for the day. So embarrassing. So true. It's Nicole pre-gaming for the party. Yeah, that's me.

Also, my husband always has an emergency case of lactate in his car because he knows Nicole loves dairy and she can't live without it. But why do you think it's disgusting? Is it the taste? Is it the idea? What is it that you hate about cheese? Well, I don't like the idea, but personally, the taste makes me sick. All cheeses?

All of them. I'm like, not lactose intolerant. I just don't like cheese. My friends will try and sneak it into my foods like I won't notice, and then I take a bite

and I'm like, there's something off. It's because it's rotten. They let it rot. They're so clever. They're like, oh, it's white chocolate. Wait, that happened? I haven't fallen for it yet. Why are so clever. They're like, oh, it's white chocolate. Wait, that happened?

I haven't fallen for it yet. Why are your friends so committed to getting you to eat cheese? I don't know. Do they work for Big Gary? Are they representing the cheese caves out here? We're going to the chocolate caves. No, it's cheese caves. Cheese caves.

They're like, it's just white and yellow chocolate. I swear, it's okay. So funny. Calling her out on the pause. So funny. But no, I mean, I understand why you don't like cheese. It makes sense. It just doesn't taste good.

I don't know. That's okay. I think cheese can ruin a dish, too. I think every food would be better without cheese, including pizza. Yes, I was just talking about this. He was just talking about this with somebody about health. I like to go to an Italian restaurant and just get a marinara.

I don't need the cheese. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, no, I'd rather just have the bread and the tomato and basil. Sometimes if there's too much, I take it off. That's fine. I mean, do whatever you want, beautiful. I don't know anymore. I see you and respect you.

I just need the bread. Bread's good. I have friends who don't like bread and refuse to eat it. I don't know about that. I don't know about all that. I respect you. I respect your bravery. Thank you for letting me feel brave enough to tell people I don't like cheese.

Thanks for letting me crawl under the table. No, no, no. I'm going right back. We need to bond together, you know? Yeah. Let's split a pizza. Thank you. Hi. I have like a weird food preference.

So ever since I was little, I would only ever eat lettuce that my mom gave me if I ate it with ketchup. Lettuce and ketchup. This makes so much sense to me because I feel like every time I would have a burger, I would just put extra lettuce on the side because my mom's like French fries bad. So I would like use the lettuce and dip it in the ketchup and mustard instead of French fries. Same. And that is a perfectly adequate salad. Iceberg lettuce dipped in ketchup to me i'm delicious i've done that i can taste it right now there's some days you get

home and you're like i don't i know i need to eat vegetables but like i don't want to put any effort into it and so i've really just taken like a half a head of iceberg in a bottle of ketchup and sat in front of my tv and that's's, yeah. That's unique. Especially when my fiance's out of town and it's just like no holds barred. I'm not using a single plate. I'm bringing the trash can with me to the TV. So funny. It's disgusting.

But yeah, I have done that because the way I view it, Thousand Island is a salad dressing. Most people know it as a burger condiment now. No, it's for sure. That's like 40% ketchup, man. Might as well make it 100. French dressing. Might as well make it 100. Catal salad dressing. Most people know it as a burger condiment now. No, it's for sure. That's like 40% ketchup, man. Yeah. Might as well make it 100.

French dressing. Might as well make it 100. Catalina dressing, that's all ketchup. Ketchup's a salad dressing. Do you want to make that a podcast? I'll do it, whatever. I have nothing better to do.

So my mom used to actually, instead of giving me pieces of lettuce, she used to give me the middle of the lettuce. Do you know what? You got the core? Yeah, she used to. You gave she's the core so it's like this weird cultural thing to our lizard oh really so my mom used to feed it to me because it was her way of saying i love you

because it's like the best part she also does it with celery she does it with like the middle i think it's because it's like the middle of the of the vegetable like the mid like the heart whatever so like i used to dip that in ketchup you gave it to your lizard yeah like the heart, whatever. So like I used to dip that in ketchup. You gave it to your lizard? Yeah, like the heart. You really love your lizard? The core of the lettuce? It's not the bottom core, the middle baby leaves, Josh.

Oh, we're talking about different things. Yeah, the little, the little like, like, you know, the little middle parts. Look at the little lizard, like this big and it is big. I love that lizard though. That's a good one. Thank you for your opinion.

Yeah, thank you. I'm Catherine. And first, I just want to say that's my cousin that you hit in the face with an Oreo. Rude. Allegedly. Allegedly. Josh lost a pancake making contest to me. And then he decided to just throw bags of coconut and Oreos at people.

Yeah. Well, okay. We know that producing a cooking show, you know, if people don't take the extra groceries home, they're going to end up going to waste. So I decided to throw the groceries into the crowd. You're welcome. Sorry to your cousin, though.

Allegedly sorry. And this might be kind of a sore subject, but I feel like the discussion around Pilk is fake. I don't get how anyone could like it. It's gross. Okay, so pilk, what you're referring to, it's a portmanteau of the words Pepsi and milk. And I like to do a ratio of about 60-40 milk to Pepsi.

That makes it worse. That makes it worse. I thought it would be the opposite. The worst thing is that, one, I genuinely like it. So apparently it is an English Commonwealth thing. My mom's from South Africa, and they called it a brown cow there. But also Laverne and Shirley apparently did not know that's where the main reference comes from. Big Laverne and Shirley crowd over here.

It's a VidCon. Woohoo! Are they alive still? One of them. I hope so. Either of them? Sorry. Yeah, thank you.

The way I think about it, it's a root beer float that has simply melted. What, are you going to throw the root beer float away if it melts? No, you're going to drink the pilk. Well, ice cream isn't just milk. Eh, close enough. I will say, turning the pilk into cheese. Pilk cheese.

Pilko queso? Pilko fresco. Pilko. Pilk cheese. Pilko queso? Pilko fresco. Pilko fresco, lo siento. That was really good. Shout out to V. She was the mastermind behind pilko fresco. I don't like pilk. I don't get pilk.

I'm not going to drink pilk ever again. Yeah, we just legit had a sack of wet brown cloth. It was incredible. Just pilk hanging and fermenting over our sink for a couple days. Yeah, I mean, it came out great. So that's disgusting. Yeah, definitely. It was good, though. But pilk is real.

Also, I need a shirt that says that. Pilk is real, but pilk is disgusting. Pilk exists. Hi, I'm Joey. Cheesecake is a pie. Ooh. Hold on, hold on. No, David, don't you clap pie. Ooh. Okay. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Don't, no, David, don't you clap for Julie.

Yeah. Don't you dare. I agree that a New York-style cheesecake is a pie, but there are several other styles of cheesecake that do not have a crust. Like what? Like bass? A Japanese souffle cheesecake,

Salvadoran quesadilla, which is a literal cake made with cheese. Sure, Josh. There are outliers, but cheesecake is a pie. I agree with you. You're so welcome. You're right. Thank you. You too. You're right. You want to come up here? She doesn't have the authority. No, no. We have to come to a

consensus. No, we don't. We never come to a consensus. Also, a Boston cream pie is a cake. Yeah, everybody knows that. Oh, sorry. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello. Did I hit you with an Oreo? No, I caught it and then my boyfriend dropped half of it. Heck yeah. Get wrecked. Anyways, my controversial opinion is that taquitos work really well as chopsticks. Oh, yeah.

Wait, taquitos or takis? Taquitos. Like full-length taquitos. Full-length taquitos. I discovered this because I had severe social anxiety. How big are your hands? Wait, show me your hands. There's like solidly big hands.

Yeah, I have, especially freshman year, one of the first days of high school, severe social anxiety. I forgot to grab a fork when I had taquitos and Mexican rice. And I just sat down with people that I met. I was like, hey, can I sit with you? Which is totally like so weird. Anyways, I started using my taquitos as chopsticks because I was too scared to go back in the lunch line and be like, I forgot to grab a fork.

So I made friends, and they were just watching me eat rice with taquitos. Wow. How did they react to that? Because one, I love the, you put all of yourself out there. That's incredible. You know?

And I love that. I love it, yeah. They said, like, they talk about it now. They're like, that was just so weird. I think that's so awesome. Innovation at its finest, man. Being a nervous kid at a lunch table. Oh, yeah.

I wasn't even at a table. I was on the ground outside. I was not cool enough. Oh, I love sitting on the floor. Big floor sitter. I, yeah. Screw chairs. You're not being for floor sitting?

Yeah. While you're in your chairs? You hippins. I think that's awesome. I would love to learn how to do that. I don't have the dexterity to do that. I can't use normal chopsticks, but if you shove it hard enough, it sticks.

I thought you meant like you only use taquitos now that you can't even use normal chopsticks anymore. I didn't think that. If I'm going to the sushi bar, I'm bringing my own taquitos, and it's going to be weird forever. You say, put them in the microwave for three minutes, please. I must use them to eat.

It's a really cultured dish, sushi with taquitos. Edible utensils. I love the idea of an edible utensil. I use those long, thin breadsticks as chopsticks. You eat spaghetti with the long Italian breadsticks? I eat chips with chopsticks. I don't get my fingies dirty. You ever not find a spoon and you use

a single Tostitos scoop as a reusable spoon? Yeah, thank you. Thank you. It's after the 30th dip, it dissolves. I used to do the Lunchables, the discs. You remember the tortilla discs that were hard as plastic? Like those little plastic toys? I would reuse those. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Thank you for coming to our literal TED talk. Hello. Hi. I'm Juliet. Um, so I have, um, so I have like food fears of those people. Um, I have like food fears of those people and so okay I'm like I'll like freak out and like so the smell really bothers me for like so if someone's eating a salad

around me and I like smell it and it's like airborne I usually have to leave the room what kind of salad? like anything with like vinaigrette and stuff. So the vinegar smell bothers you? I cannot do it. But

apparently my mom like drank bottles of it when she was pregnant with me. Wow. So very odd. Hardcore. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm, I just, my body goes into like almost shock. So I don't know.

It's weird. When's the last time you had vinegar? I think I smelled it once. Like someone was like, here, oh, this is great. Smell this. And I'm like, what is it? And they're like, just smell it. And I'm like, and I like, I was like, oh my, oh no.

I like, I recoiled so bad, like into the other room. Like I was like, oh, like I'm dizzy. It wasn't, it was't it was a you need to find like a non-vinegar based salad dressing to try and like wean you into salads also dressings in general and like most kind of you are you not a sauce person i've known a lot of people who are anti-sauce oh no don't freak out stay calm among. Among friends. But, like, I have an idea. I have an idea. Buy, like, a nose plug,

and then just put one drop of vinegar with one drop of honey on your tongue, and then just, like, wean yourself into, like, liking vinegar. Technically, neither of us are medical doctors. I'm not. No. I'm really good at the medical portion in Jeopardy, though. You really is. You really is.

I'm really good. I know all I know all the prefixes and stuff. She's all like pancreas, tinnitus. But I don't know. I think mixing it with sweet might help. I think I should go to a therapist. I love my therapist, man. She's the best. I'll give you her number if you want.

Yeah, therapy is great. Yeah, yeah, she's great. Thank you for your time. Oh, my God, thank you She's the best. I'll give you her number if you want. Yeah, therapy is great. Yeah, yeah, she's great. Thank you for your time. Oh my God, thank you. You're adorable. If this is what gets you to actually go to therapy, that'd be hilarious. Like, job done.

Oh my gosh, of course. Hi, I'm Olivia. Hi. Unfortunately, I'm right about every opinion, so you're going to have to deal with that. You and me both, I get that. So I'd like to preface with water has flavors of course there are different 100 yes but people who enjoy water are objectively weirder than people

who enjoy milk people who enjoy water are weirder than people who enjoy milk do you mean like people are like i can only have water from from spark No, just people who their beverage of choice is water. I agree. Instead of their beverage of choice being milk. No, just people who enjoy milk at all because they are very alienated and ostracized. What is your main drink of choice? College has changed me. It's now Diet Coke.

But before, it would have been some kind of juice. Yeah. Some kind of juice. Okay. I went through the same evolution. One, I hate that I drank this. You drink. I've never seen you drink this much water.

I've known you for like three years. I don't like it. I hate it. It tastes gross. Water tastes like sand. It's bad. Water doesn't taste like sand. It tastes like sand.

Ugh, it's gross. Don't throw it. You got it. Don't throw it. You got to toss it. You simply got to toss it. Nailed it. You got to toss it. You simply got to toss it. Nailed it. Thank you.

No way. I mean, water's good. Nope. I'm so sorry. Oh, no. It's begun. That's why I've been drinking flat water, because I've been speaking so much, and I was like, you don't need to be burping on stage, dude. I forgot why.

I think that people who only drink water, they're like, um, they're the type of people who are like, instead of eating a slice of cake, eat a carrot. It's like, but I want cake. I don't think that at all. I disagree one million percent. I want a glass of water because I want something that tastes better. Waters? Science exists.

Your body is, how much percent water? It is a miracle that we've made something taste this good. Your body is 80% of this stuff. It needs it. Would you, would you eat, would you eat a bar of, okay, but other things are in there too. Would you eat, would you eat a bar of magnesium? Would you, I don't know,

would you eat anything your body is made of because your body made it? I'd eat blood. I'd eat spit. Shailene Woodley just eats dirt because it has iron in it or something there's that water is good water is important to drink i used to hate i used to be like you i'm like anti i just didn't like well i just don't like drinking water but it actually is like good for you and sometimes in life j, Josh, let me speak. Sometimes in life, you got to do things you don't want to do because it's better for you.

Like drinking water. Like, like, you know, going to therapy. Like, you know, going for a walk around the block for 15 minutes.

I don't want to do that, but sometimes you have to because it's going to better you in the future. So drink more water. Gatorade has elect, Gatorade has electrolytes. Abrando has what plants crave.

Body craves. Nice idiocracy reference, Nicole. Thanks, Nicole. We deserve more out of life than water. Thank you. Thank you. That's my political platform. Life is water. All life forms are based in water, not in Diet Coke. Oh, God, this man.

Hello. My name's Aiden, and I think that McDonald's has the best chicken sandwich, spicy or otherwise. Ooh. No. You're not going to find anything here. You work for McDonald's?

No. Okay. Get the clown down here. Let me see. Get the clown. I want to talk to him. I don't agree with that. You're talking about their new one, right?

Like, not the McChicken. You're talking about their new one, right? Like, not the McChicken. You're talking about their new premium. You like that one. I feel like it's dry. It's dry. Okay, one thing. I have to jump in. Please.

Spicy chicken sandwich at McDonald's is not. It's the sauce. Oh, yeah. Well, I tried to order a spicy chicken sandwich at McDonald's without the sauce, and they're like, that's just a chicken sandwich. It's one product. Okay, so the chicken sandwich wars. We've talked

about this a lot. Popeye's changed the game so much because their chicken was so big. It was so juicy. It was so crunchy. The bun was an entire redesign. Their pickles were thicker. Literally, after that came out, every fast food restaurant was like, we need to figure out how to make this not suck. Remember when

someone got shot over the Popeye sandwich? Yeah. That was crazy. Big fan. That was crazy. That was a wild time in history. People were getting shot over sandwiches. I remember when Burger King was advertising their new one, they were like, we've tested over

six different pickle shapes. And I'm like, weird thing to brag about. I don't know. They mean like the ridges on the pickle? They were literally like, yeah, we tried six different shapes of pickles to get this right. And then McDonald's dropped it and I was like, they're not going to screw this up. They're the biggest fast food restaurant in the world that's not

Subway. And then we had it and I was like, eh. It's okay. and then we had it and i was like it's okay and so i get it uh what's the de gustavus non est disputandum that it anyone speak latin in the crowd no i wish i took latin in high school there is no accounting for taste okay so i respect it my favorite chicken sandwich as of right now is the Jollibee chicken sandwich with the fresh jalapenos on it. If you guys ever see a Jollibee, that sandwich with the fresh jalapenos

and the crispy chicken and then you get a side of Honey Must See. I like that they got buckets of spaghetti there and I like their spaghetti buckets. Oh yeah, the spaghetti buckets are so good. Yeah, dude. Thank you. Thank you. Is this our last opinion? Last one. We got one more. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Is this our last opinion? Last one, we got one more. Woo, last opinion.

It's a good finale. Do you think you can handle the pressure? I hope so. What are you doing to people? Okay, my great opinion, hopefully I don't get my hashtag canceled for this one, but I think croissants are terrible. Croissants are terrible. Why do you think croissants are terrible. Croissants are terrible.

Why do you think croissants are terrible? What about them is gross? They're just so dry and like... Yeah. They're just so dry and there's so many better breads and things to eat than a croissant.

It might be just too flaky. Yeah, the flakes bother you. I don't think you're worth getting cancelled over. It might be just too flaky. Yeah. Yeah, the flakes bother you. Yeah. I don't think you're worth getting canceled over. It's okay. I would rather just have, yeah, who's going to cancel you? Like the French?

I like Danish's. The French army is just going to storm the croissant. Josh speaks French, everyone. He's a stupid American. That's his favorite thing to say in French. I understand why you feel that way if i could i mean danishes especially cheese danishes are so much better than croissants like filled with chocolate so i kind of understand except trevor who is our baker boy used to be a croissant

maker so he would probably get really upset with what you just said but he's not here yeah trevor's on a rafting trip in idaho yeah, I don't like danishes either. Oh, well, well. I'm with you. Get out. I'm just kidding. Just give me a nice piece. Give me like a good yeasted dough, a good bread, a good donut. That's what I'm there for.

Don't need the fancy lamination on the pastries. If the French Army's coming for you, they're coming for me too. But I'm going to negotiate a deal where I hand you over to them. So just know that. Just know that. Thanks. Yeah, no problem. All right, now we got one more,

one more, two more, two more. We got to wrap it up. I'm sorry. Who is that? Oh, it's Annalise.

Nice, thanks. Okay, last one. This is the last one. No, no, no. Quick, we'll go quick. My name is Patrick and when I was little, my family went to Denny's, and I ordered the pizza,

and they said, oh, what side do you want? I was like, grapes, right? And I put the grapes on the pizza. Since I was little, my family made fun of me for it. I made the argument. It's like pineapple on pizza. Yes, sir. I don't want to hear it.

I don't want to hear it. No arguments. We've put grapes on pizza. We've put grapes on pizza before. It's great. It's a great grape. It's delicious. Love it. How about my dad? I'll tell your dad. Call your dad right now. I'll tell him. Okay, go.

Go, go. Call him. Let me just make sure you get her back. Hi. Hi. What's your opinion? I'm Ruth. Being cilantro is disgusting. Okay. Unfortunately, that's all the time we have today. Thank you so much for coming by. Hot dogs and sandwiches. It's been real.

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