A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Is Cereal Soup?

Episode Date: March 18, 2020

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This, this, this, this is Mythical. Have you been eating soup for breakfast without knowing it? Let's find out. This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich.

A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our brand new podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, where we take on the internet's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Scherer, and I once spilled a bowl of cereal on my naked lap. And I'm your host, Nicole Hendy-Zadde, and I think Josh is my best friend. Oh my god, you're top eight for me. If we had MySpace, you'd be on my top eight. Yeah, I just think I spend so much time with you, like, I think you're one of my friends.

Like, it's cool that you're like, I'm your subordinate, you're my friend yeah that's a a recipe for okay so today we're taking on the question is cereal soup Nicole what are your thoughts why I this is one of the biggest questions that's always mentioned on twitter on whatever and people always explode over it and there's a very easy answer that a lot of people seem to take but i want to hear your thoughts on it first so it's no for me and it's just no do you want me to tell you why it's no or do you want to tell me you know what can you tell me why you think whatever you think first okay so god i don't even like that i'm saying this but i'm taking this position and i do believe it because i've thought about it and i've really done a lot of soul searching i believe that cereal is soup i believe there's no way around it it is a food eaten out of a bowl with a spoon meant to be

consumed as a meal i believe that cereal is soup the dish cereal because you could say cereal is just if you're eating lucky charms yeah if you're eating lucky charms by the handful you know you could say like you're eating cereal but i think when you say like cereal the dish cereal the dish fully with milk or some sort of milk substitute i believe it's a soup i just it has to be to me it has the same formula as a soup you eat it in the same manner i think it's soup i think it's just such an iconic food on its own that lumping it in with soup defeats the beauty of cereal, in my opinion. Like a bowl of Lucky Charms or my favorite cereal, Grape Nuts, is just iconic. Like, you know, you're eating cereal.

To call it soup is blasphemy, in my opinion, because everyone has an archetype of soup. If I close, if all of us were to close our eyes, close your eyes, if you were to close your eyes and you were to envision a bowl of soup, what would be inside of it? If you tell me frosted mini wheats and whole milk aren't in that bowl, you're lying to yourself. I'm picturing a beautiful broth with little chunks in it of vegetables. And then there's a tiger and the tiger is walking behind the bowl of soup and he goes there gregs it's a bowl of frosted flakes because i am picturing no i i don't think i think cereal on its own is its own dish i think it demands the respect of being its own

iconic meal i can call cereal a meal sure i can eat it with a spoon sure but i don't think it's soup but why not i mean really break this down because what what are the components of soup right that's what we first have to discuss um i think we have the definition right here of what soup is there like a miriam webster has a dictionary decided there's actually two definitions of soup there's webster's definition and the oxford definition give me both webster says a liquid food especially with a meat fish or vegetable stock as a base and often containing pieces of solid food that's webster's okay so let's break that down so they say often with a meat vegetable or fish stock or whatever yeah so it doesn't mean

that it necessarily has to include one of those so we could consider milk to be the broth also i would argue that milk is essentially stock made from the teats of a cow i don't think milk it's teat stock i don't think meat constitutes stock i think if we took the teats and we we sued the teats that would be that would be stock that would be utter stock don't put that into the universe because we're gonna have to do that someone from up top is is going to be like, guys, we need to find cow udders. That would be cow udder stock. I think the liquid that it secretes is milk, and it should be milk and called milk, not broth. Fair. I'll concede that point.

Okay. And the Oxford definition says, a liquid food made by boiling meat, vegetables, etc., in water water often eaten as the first course of a meal. What do you have to say about that? The first course of breakfast is always cereal for me. It's part of a balanced breakfast, Nicole. It's not the entire balanced breakfast. Anytime they show the cereal commercials, right? It's always next to like toast, orange juice, eggs.

Because I don't think legally they can call a balanced breakfast just a bowl of cereal on account of it's just 100% sugar and corn. Is that what you eat for breakfast? Do you course out your breakfasts sometimes you see me in here well it's mostly just me grazing for like hours and hours yeah that's different but okay so to visit your point about it being iconic enough to be its own dish yeah a lot of people also have the question is chili soup so chili is like very iconically its own dish and also whenever i go to a restaurant and they're like soup of the day and like our soup today is chili i'm just like well that should be its own menu item i don't consider that a soup of the day in the same sense that i still but i still do you know consider chili to be a soup in the sense that like it's made with a stock it's got bits of stuff in it

you eat it with a spoon out of a bowl but you know that said if i went to a restaurant and they said the soup of the day is chili i would feel just as misled if the soup of the day is chili, I would feel just as misled if the soup of the day was a bowl of Frosted Flakes. No, you wouldn't. You're just lying to lie. No, that's okay. No, I don't agree with that at all. If you went to a restaurant and someone gave you a bowl of chili

versus a bowl of cereal with milk and they're like, which one of these are soup? Would you honestly put your hand over the cereal and say this is soup? I would honestly put my hand over both and say these are both soup, but I do agree that chili is a more soup-like soup. But didn't you say chili is less of a soup? I think chili is less of a soup than, say, chicken noodle, beef and barley.

No. Well, also, there's different kinds of chili. There's the chili you put on hot dogs. I'm not about to pour myself a bowl of that and go to town on it. I call it hot dog slop chili and it's my favorite kind of chili. I don't think I'm going to do that. But if there's an artisanal chili with beans in it, maybe some sour cream on the top, yeah, I'll eat that joyfully and I'll call it soup.

But I will not pour myself a bowl of Frosted Flakes, put some oat milk on there and call it soup but i will not pour myself a bowl of frosted flakes put some oat milk on there and call it soup now talk to me i know you're going to bring up the gazpacho because that's just who you are as a person so yeah we call it the gazpacho complex yeah i understand because a lot of people they think soup uh is temperature dependent and they'll say cereal is cold one i i pour milk over honey bunches of oats and stick it in the microwave for 35 seconds i think it's very delicious yeah that's like porridge, man. Yeah. Well, that's another thing.

Like cereal, a lot of people consider oatmeal to be like a hot cereal. And then a lot of people could ask, well, is oatmeal then soup? Isn't oatmeal labeled hot cereal? Technically. But the term cereal, like in its scientific definition, because so many of these arguments, they come down to there's a scientific definition of a thing. And then there's like a colloquial functional definition. I feel like that's kind of where this conversation always steers yeah yeah right so like rice

technically is called a cereal grain you know but if you say like i'm eating a bowl of cereal and someone give you a bowl of steamed rice you wouldn't think that that is technically cereal yeah because cereal is a meal so technically like oatmeal is you know cereal but when you prepare oatmeal right i think it's not suspended chunks of food in liquid it all comes together in a paste which i would call a porridge yeah being entirely separate from both cereal and soup i think soup which is why i believe cereal is one needs to have a certain flow rate to it i think if we got like a physicist in here they could give us a a bare minimum standard for what constitutes the flow rate of a soup because if you take something like a bisque right

if you if you reduce a bisque down enough i believe it no longer becomes a soup and it becomes a sauce or a gravy sure right so there's some sort of flow rate here and i believe cereal will always fall in that flow rate depending on how much milk you've poured in there do we have a physicist budget do we have is it in the budget i think so okay yeah it was like 60 bucks so we got like a real budget craigslist physicist to come in here i'm down like someone who was like ousted by the physics community because he was a flat earther i'm not i'm not i'll take a flat earth physicist in here to talk about cereal flow rates yeah man me too i'm down i think that's a brilliant idea. But the act of reducing it, every person has a preference. I feel their milk to cereal ratio. Some people like a really, really thin, like, I just like one piece of cereal to like a whole spoonful of milk. And some people

like a lot of cereal and no milk. So I don't necessarily agree with you on that because it's all relative when it comes to pouring yourself a bowl of cereal. So you're saying one person's definition of a bowl of cereal, if it doesn't have enough milk, wouldn't constitute, wouldn't come up to that level of flow rate. Yeah, I think it would flow rate. But it still would be a bowl of cereal. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yes. That's an interesting point. 100%. In the same way that if you reduce a bisque down, it becomes a sauce. If you decrease the amount of milk enough. Okay, but the way I'm thinking, because a lot of people, you're pouring the cereal into the bowl and then you're adding milk on top of that one you always pour the cereal first yes always no no yes but dude there's a lot of soups at restaurants fancy restaurants you and i are both fancy people we have very fancy tastes yes

there's a lot of fancy restaurants that you get a soup and they'll put the chunks in the bowl and then a waiter comes around with like the little carafe or whatever little gravy boat type of thing and they pour the broth in. Here we have a green pea stew. I have gotten some of these fancy soups and they like pour in a quarter inch of broth or whatever the thing is. That's because it's small portions man. No I know but it like doesn't even say it doesn't eat like a soup at that point it eats like a sauce. So I'd argue that cereal is more of a soup than some of these things that people are calling soups out here in the fine dining industry that's what i believe i believe they're soups i just think they're very i think their texture is very very luxurious like a sauce so i feel like that's where you're going with it i believe

the definition of soup is so broad because think about the world of soups right gazpacho just like cold blended vegetables delicious often served in a cup you don't even eat it with a spoon most of the time it's just a liquid food meant to be consumed i think a majority of times with a spoon yeah that's what it is right and so you have say like a chowder which is just a milk-based soup based it's not just milk it's milk-based i would argue that cereal is just milk-based because once you come on it's just milk man once you combine the cereal you get the cornflake residue sorry i burped i drink a lot of diet coke i drink a lot of diet coke throughout the day uh it really like works me up into a fervor you know all the aspartame and caffeine in there yeah i don't know how your blood is pumping through your veins right now i don't know how it happens no like

i would argue that stock is just bone-based water yes tell me some facts about about soup josh what are you okay okay this is actually interesting soup facts in french cooking soups are classified into two groups clear and thick i think that's important but they're both soups because like like you said soup we have to break this down into archetypes so you have something like a chicken noodle is more archetypally soup sure then then cereal which is obviously well that's just looking at through an american lens yeah that's another thing like if we go to um you know japan something like ramen like do you consider that soup? Even though like the noodles are the star of it?

Absolutely. It's just a noodle. It's a soup with noodles. The broth is the star. Let's be real here. Fair. We actually did an episode here that was really interesting. The way that other people view different foods and definitions.

It was international noodle taste test. Oh. And, you know, we did pasta dishes from Nigeria and all around the world. the world i remember that episode yeah and there were a bunch of people that commented like those aren't noodles there's no broth and i was like the definition of noodles is different per place yeah and so yeah and so to me you look at something like soup which every culture you know eats yeah around the world sure to me the definition is so broad that i think you have to take it down to its complete base level of a liquid based food that you eat with a spoon or just drink directly from the cup i think that's all it is so if you're like

is a smoothie you know a smoothie gets a little bit melty and it can flow in your mouth is that a soup yeah that's a fruit bisque. That's all you're eating. Wake up. You go to Jamba Juice, you're getting a raspberry razzmatazz. Any know smoothie that is a raspberry bisque? It is a semi-freddo raspberry bisque. Josh.

And I'm standing by that. Josh, you and I both know that's just a sad smoothie that you will still drink even if it's 10 o'clock at night. I'm down with the Jamba. No, man. I'm sorry. I don't agree with you. I think the line

of sweet and savory is also something that it sometimes walks on because Webster and Oxford says that it's meat or vegetable or poultry, right? They never mention anything about like the sweetness of soup or the savoriness of soup. I know in Poland they have the, what is it, the Polish fruit soup? Yeah, fruit soup. Yeah did yeah sure that's soup but when you make it it's pretty much like a custardy dessert sauce it's not really a soup but it's not a salsa because it's called a soup but we talked about if you reduce a bisque down long enough it just becomes a sauce yeah yeah i don't know i mean i just feel like the line of sweet and savory really if they made more savory cereals like if they made honey bunches of chicken.

Well, let's talk hypotheticals, though. Okay, if someone made cornflakes this time with beef. Hypothetically, though, for real, if we had beef flakes, which we could make because we made avocado toast crunch, right? Yes, we did. That was savory. We put crushed red pepper on it

and lemon juice and black pepper and salt. We did. So if we take that avocado toast crunch and then we red pepper on it and lemon juice and black pepper and salt. Yeah, we did. So if we take that avocado toast crunch and then we pour milk on it, are we eating soup at that point? I don't know. I don't know. Are we?

I don't know. Am I? Conversely, are there sweet soups out there? Because that seems to be the line that you're drawing. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like that's,

that's the line that I'm kind of like stuck on. Like my cereals, well, no, most of my time, most of the time the cereals I eat aren't sweet. They're just like Weetabix or Grape Nuts. I know it's like I'm a geriatric woman. But those are my favorite kinds of cereals just because they have like a tinge of sweetness.

So I don't feel like I'm eating sugar in the morning. You know what I mean? But I don't know. I feel like you're just rocking my world here, man, with the avocado toast crunch and the alternate universe snacks taste test. Think about beef flakes. I mean, honestly, we could take chicken and we could freeze dry chicken and then we could pulverize it,

mix that with like the tiniest bit of flour or even not, some sort of other binder. And then we could create little crunchy, aerated chicken nuggets, put that in a bowl, pour milk on it and eat it. Do you think that would be cereal or soup? I need to try it. Did you order the code

red i don't know i don't know man you're rocking my brain right now i i don't know frick maybe maybe what separates it huh and even i mean say you put that bowl in the microwave and then you're essentially creating chicken stock out of that milk but it's still the same exact food that went into that microwave you know because we've agreed there can be cold soups gazpacho you know so like what if you know your microwave it you infuse some of that chicken in there you let it cool down are we eating cereal or soup i don't know maybe there maybe cereal is soup you don't have to choose have you converted me embrace the fact that cereal is soup it's a beautiful world in here nicole the water is so warm there's no rules in any food once you agree that cereal is soup i was so sure oh i'm

like no it's not but when you break it down like this and you talk about hypotheticals that's wild i think i think i'm should i say it say the words that are on the tip of my say it okay i think cereal soup cereal is soup we've decided it's official again like i feel dirty saying that i hope you know that you have to jump into the world of hypotheticals it feels wrong it feels it feels impure but i think the way that it's been broken down if you remove the iconicism of cereal i think in a world if you do it properly it could be soup yeah that's all i ask that's all i look forward to hate when you do this to me to coming to your wedding and eating freeze-dried chicken cereal soup sweetie my wedding's not gonna have that kind of stuff you and i both know that another thing with internet definitions not

internet definitions dictionary definitions why i consider the internet to be my ultimate sources of information i'm just saying like all the pictures that you've seen of the earth those aren't actual photographs those are artist renderings they're paintings are you flat earther like the physicist i'm not i'm like flat earth curious oh my gosh like i'm not hard okay but no the thing about dictionary definitions that they're always changing language of all over time. Sure, understandable. So the fact that they consider soup to be often with meat and something, they even left room in there for the definition to change by using the word often. And there's the word et cetera, too. Et cetera.

They're being intentionally vague because they don't know. The word literally, right? They've changed the definition of that to include the hyperbolic definition. Because so many times you'll get the keyboard warriors out there when someone's like, oh my God, I'm literally dying. And like, if you were literally dying, then you wouldn't be able to blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, like we can now use the word literally to be hyperbole, to be an exaggeration.

And the dictionary supports that usage because so many people did it. I have one point. Go ahead. Can I say my point? I would love for you to say your point. Okay. We're at a wedding. A wedding.

It's a friend of ours sitting down the first course. Trevor's the only mutual friend that we share. Oh, yeah, that's true. No. Yeah? Is it? Okay, Trevor's getting married. We're all invited.

And it says, first course, soup du jour. And they put frosted flakes in front of you. Are you going to be okay with that? Are you okay with that? Do you think there will be an uproar from the guests or confusion or some sort of like you know mutiny when that happens or do you think you're just gonna i chill i'm gonna eat this bowl of cereal before i go dance the electric slide because that's what white people listen to at weddings is that what's gonna happen i don't know one i would love to be at a wedding with a mutiny where people rise up and like storm

the catering kitchen this isn't cereal there's like this butternut squash ravioli is over spiced my brother's wedding it was very disappointing for me but anyways no i of course i would be angry if served me a bowl of frosted flakes that's not because it's not soup that's because it's you know not high class or wedding if they served you a bowl of progresso chicken noodle soup i'd also be mad but what if it was really pretty well what if it was a really pretty cereal what's really pretty what if the chef i'm sad it doesn't make their own cereal that's the thing we need to change the world of cereal what if they made their own cereal what if they made their own like awesome cereal and then came out with like a

beautiful rose hip infused milk does anyone make their own cereal but like granola but like oh whatever granola there's a lot of Indian snacks. So my best friend Deep, his mom at his house would like make her own. They look exactly like cereal. It's used in a lot of puris, like bel puri is a thing, if you ever had it. No. It's literally just a bunch of like little mini cereal bites that you pour different chutneys on and herbs and onions and there's mango and stuff. Sure.

And then you eat it and it's like this cold but it looks exactly like american breakfast cereal but there's a lot of masala in it and all that like chop masala yeah yeah yeah yeah and so she would like make her own essentially cereal yeah and then because i would always look at it in their pantry and be like that's cornflakes and like no that's like it's like a chat yeah just like a yeah that's wild and so like we just need to bring that you know i guess we do american start making our own fancy cereals because imagine if you were at that wedding and there was some like really awesome beautiful cereal sweet or savory that they like had in the bottom of the bowl and you got little like barrage flowers around it and they come pour

this beautiful elegant rose broth barrage barrage i just say borage. Borage. Nobody knows what borage is. The world of fancy cereals is out there that can be served as elegant soups. I think we need to just delve. I think we need to get into the business of savory soups. I think we got to make beef flakes. Savory cereals? Yeah. Savory cereals.

You're already confusing cereal and soup. That means I've done my job. Yep. You've pretty much brainwashed me. Sounds like a regular day at the office. Brainwashing is such a negative term. I consider it like, you know, I don't know. Like you just did a little bit at the brainwashing is such a negative term i consider it like you know i don't know like you just did a little bit of light brain laundry oh my gosh

just like you know put a little fabric softener in there i just think it's so interesting because in america we don't eat savory cereals at all no not even a little bit so i think if we were able to capitalize on that and market it in the right way and be like, have soup for breakfast. Yeah. That could work. Absolutely. Yeah. Soup is eaten for breakfast all around the world.

Like pho is a huge breakfast food. Yeah. But who eats like cold beef soup? Oh, oh my God. Mool nam-yong, the Korean dish. So sorry. It is literally cold beef soup with ice chips floating in the broth. Like for breakfast?

I don't know if it's for breakfast i think it's supposed to be like on a hot day it kind of cools you down it's these buckwheat noodles it's incredible oh i think i've had that at the korean spa yes actually i have to after the sauna wait wait wait yeah i've totally had that at the spa yeah okay i'm saying once you expand your mind outside the fact that like but with milk though or oat milk almond milk water what is cereal with water i think you do cereal with water why not no you can do anything there's no rules anymore i guess not this far i guess we need to make our own fancy savory cereal company because then it's healthy for kids

kids kids love beef you know you don't want to feed them sugar yeah i i i'm down i think this is a possibility the world is beautiful the water is warm is that what you said the water is warm the water is warm this is awesome okay i'm down to have some soup slash cereal go to mythical.com to pick up your box of mythical beef flakes now available in children's size imagine if we made like little boxes you know those little boxes that you get of soup. I mean, what do I keep saying? Soup is cereal. Oh my God.

You know, those little boxes of like Frosted Flakes you get? Yeah, the little like travel size? Yeah, imagine if we made like little travel sized ones. I'm into it. This is going to be an episode. What else do we got? The cereal industry uses 816 million pounds of sugar per year. Not anymore.

Not with beef flakes. There's going to be zero grams of sugar and 900 million grams of beef up in those flakes. Not anymore. Not with beef flakes. There's gonna be zero grams of sugar and 900 million grams of beef up in those flakes. Pork flakes. That'd be cheaper. Chicken flakes. Wow, the world. So beautiful.

So expansive. Josh, read some cereal facts or some definitions. Okay. Webster's definition of cereal. Already established the fact that we don't trust the dictionary and we don't trust the astronauts

because they've not been up there. A plant such as a grass yielding starchy grain suitable for food so that's where we come into like cereal grains like rice and wheat and all that uh to the definition we're talking about a prepared food stuff of grain such as oatmeal or cornflakes but it's funny because they say oatmeal but they don't consider the term cereal to be the dish which again we're we're seeing it as the dish though right yeah i mean term cereal to be the dish. Mm-hmm. Which again... We're seeing it as the dish, though. Right?

Yeah, of course. I mean, it has to be. Like you say, I ate cereal for breakfast. People are assuming it's milk. Because to me, the milk is what makes it a meal. I agree. In a way. No, 100%.

Yeah. Not just eating handfuls of raw cereal. I knew a bodybuilder one time that before one of his competitions, the way he would look really swollen and stuff is he would eat handfuls of oatmeal before his competitions that's hot that's hot i love that that's what i do before we shoot any episode no you don't i do you do you remember i went through a fruity pebble phase i wasn't here for your fruity pebble my soup in the morning phase or i did a bowl of fruity pebbles i wasn't here for that that makes sense maybe it was another no it's great you

have the simple carbs and it gives you a pump okay here's another thing let's flip the script on this a little bit say you took doritos and just like crushed them up essentially would look like dorito krispies you know a little snack cackle pop action and you poured like um i don't know a chowder broth over it not even a chowder but just like you know uh i don't know a little milk and salt is that cereal can we take like soup definitions and turn that back into cereal because we've already established all cereals i feel like i can do anything now with this with this conversation i feel like there is no limits why not that sounds good that sounds really good that's essentially savory cereal i mean it's like you take yogurt and this is this is the nicole snack special and

i love it so much she takes a bowl of greek yogurt and she'll like smear it around the sides of a bowl and then she'll take a bunch of potato chips and throw it on there what else goes on there like paprika yeah i put paprika garlic powder salt pepper whatever i have in the pantry tbh and i just kind of mash it together and it's's called chips-o-must, which means yogurt and chips and Farsi. And it's the best snack in the freaking universe, man. It's like eating cereal. It's like cereal. It's cereal.

It's cereal. But it's not soup, Josh. That's not soup. I don't think it's cereal, though, because it's not liquid. So I think if you thinned out that yogurt enough, I think it would both be cereal and soup. Sometimes I thin out my yogurt. Sometimes I thin out my yogurt. Sometimes I use that Bulgarian do you know that bulgarian mountain yogurt that's super thin and tangy sometimes i use that when i don't have greek yogurt yeah bulgarian mountain

yogurt is soup it's good for you that should have been this podcast is bulgarian mountain yogurt soup the probiotics in that alone will just clean you out it's so good i was at a farmer's market and uh they were selling beet kvass do you know kvass yeah it's like fermented oh isn't that made from brown bread or something yeah it's like a russian peasant drink that's made with brown bread and it's fermented it's like a little bit alcoholic yeah yeah but they're advertising beet kvass and i'm like the only person who'd be like oh my god they're making kvass yeah and so i go over there and start talking about it and she goes they're in nine billion probiotics per ounce oh my God, they're making kvass. And so I go over there and I start talking to her about it. And she goes, there are 9 billion probiotics per ounce. And I was just like, you could have said any number,

you could have said there are four probiotics in every ounce. And I would have been like, dang, that's a lot. Any number over than one was so impressive to me. The fact that she said 9 million just made me like a little scared. Oh my gosh. And then I buy a bottle and she goes, have had this before i'm like no and she goes oh maybe only start by drinking a couple sips yeah yeah yeah i was like what's gonna happen to me oh your gi track will just go yeah and so i drank the whole bottle and then had a cold brew no you didn't i sure did oh my gosh did you poop your

pants no i just woke up the next morning feeling great. Feeling fresh. It was the nine million probiotics. All nine million. Hi, how are you? That's so silly. Just checking up. Oh my gosh, that's so silly.

All right, Nicole, let's just a brief recap because I need to hear you say it one more time. Is cereal soup? Josh, cereal? Can't say it. Say it. Josh. Cereal is soup.

Cereal is soup. I agree. It's almost upsetting and unfortunate that it is, but there's no way around it. I hate the fact that it is. Cereal is soup. Dogs are horses. There's no rules anymore. Dogs are just tiny, tiny horses.

Nicole, we've heard what you and I have to say now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it's time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles opinions are like casseroles everyone's got one and it goes in the oven opinions are like casserole potatoes on top okay so let's see what kind of messages we've gotten all right we got a head bushy dot boo ketchup is hella disgusting shout out to norcal yay area mustard is a gift from the gods don't pit two kings against each other that's not right we can uplift all condiments here that's right king uplift the condiments i love ketchup i love mustard but i don't like mustard on hamburgers that's a preference i don't think it doesn't belong but i'm saying i don't enjoy it i've

learned to love mustard i used to hate mustard now i love mustard i don't love it as much as ketchup though yeah ketchup is a beautiful sauce i think ketchup needs a rebrand in a way sir kensington's doing a good job of making fancy ketchup. Oh my gosh, fantastic job. Their ketchup is delightful. Yes, but ketchup, like if you look at it, it's an agrodolce tomato chutney. It's sweet and sour and spiced.

What a lovely sauce. Agreed. Sauce of kings. Let's see what's next. AJ Collins 15 says, iceberg lettuce is the absolute worst form of food ever. No taste, too crunchy crunchy and it wilts instantly there are better lettuces out there than iceberg lettuce but it definitely serves a purpose in food

i think having a taco with some shredded lettuce is phenomenal i think putting it in a salad in addition to other lettuces is phenomenal as well putting Putting it on a burger. Hello. It's delicious. It definitely is like probably the least sexy of lettuce's, but I'll still have it. Iceberg lettuce turns me on. I don't know what you're talking about. Also, he's getting the instant wilt iceberg. Don't buy instant wilt iceberg. Get the good iceberg.

Don't buy your iceberg from Walmart. I don't think iceberg does wilt instantly. I think that's what makes it great on burgers. Like Shake Shack uses green leaf lettuce. That stuff wilts instantly. Oh yeah. Icebergs actually, I think it has a really beautiful flavor too.

If you like take a piece of iceberg, put it in your mouth and meditate on the flavor. It's like beautiful. It's hazelnutty to me. I love it. Hazelnutty. I've never had, I've never thought of that. But next time I shove iceberg lettuce in my mouth.

Yeah. Shout out to Helen Rosner from the New Yorkerer because she wrote a beautiful essay on iceberg lettuce because i realized ben asked me what i do for fun on the weekends and i was like i don't know i just lift weights and eat food uh no i also read uh helen rosner's essays in the new yorker about iceberg lettuce she wrote a great one on chicken strips okay yeah maybe she can come on the podcast one time oh my god i would love that you can read the next one oh this is me i had jacob age 22 steak should okay sorry they're laughing more i could finish it steak should always be well done the red parts are icky you're icky i think this is oh i know who this is this is uh jacob ben moha he's a friend of mine no you're wrong jacob this is a bad statement re you need

to re-evaluate some things boo-booboo. But there is a huge cultural difference on who eats rare meat and who eats meat well done for a lot of different reasons, right? Yeah, but like, I mean, sure, your filet mignon can be well done. That's how kebab is. That's fine. But like, get some steak bloody, like a good T-bone? Hell yeah, what the frick? Yeah, I love me some medium rare steak. But also, I i think people are too this dude is going way far the other end but i think there's a lot of people on the like steak should never be well done but there's a lot of great

well-done steak to set there yeah the people think well done equals burnt which is incorrect or dry which is also incorrect i think a well cooked well done steak is definitely delicious as is a medium rare piece of meat yeah it all depends on like how much care you've taken it like there's a Vietnamese dish called baluk lak or shaking beef as people know it oh i love shaking beef that sounds great yeah yeah i absolutely love it uh but yeah no wait i grew up uh not eating any rare meat though because it's not kosher right i mean yeah well i don't know if there's some debate is that's who's bleeding the animal i don't know if it's like kosher, right? I mean, yeah. Well, I don't know if actually like... There's some debate. Does that have to do with bleeding the animal? I don't know.

Is there blood left in it? I don't know if it's like in the Torah or something, but traditionally a lot of people that I know don't eat their steaks less than medium well. I don't know if it's like a religious thing or if it's just like a preference thing. There's even a thing like a lot of people in East Africa, like in Ethiopia, there's like a raw...

It's essentially... Oh, sure. Is it called dorawat? What's it called? The raw kifte? Kifte? I think it's kifte. I think it's called kifte yeah they eat raw meat or kitfo kitfo I think it's kitfo but yeah it's like Ethiopian tartare but then if you go to like uh parts of West Africa like Nigeria I mean all my Nigerian friends are like I don't eat steak that's not well done yeah so yeah it's just it's a real cultural thing um but no man I I get down on beef in any color, shape, size, whatevs. Okay, ETFP says Velveeta is good.

It's aight. No, Velveeta's great. It's okay. I'd rather have a slice of American cheese than a spoonful of Velveeta. Wait, are you thinking of Velveeta the sauce or like the brick? The brick. A spoonful of brick Velveeta. Velveeta is literally if you melted down like American,

if you made like an American cheese jello. Yeah. Like a thick American cheese jello. Yeah. Which I love it. Velveeta emulsifies great in the sauces. Gorgeous. All right.

At Erica Jav says, I like avocado and cottage cheese and honey. Everyone thinks that's weird. Hmm. That sounds like a Filipino dessert that I would really enjoy. Erica, it's not that weird, girl. It's fine. It's like breakfast.

That's something i would eat for breakfast absolutely i'm down with that avocado i don't know why everyone considers it to be a purely savory thing no of course not it's great and like hollow hollow in filipino food get like the avocado in there with the condensed milk honey's basically condensed milk cottage cheese delicious with like fruit on it i'm diggity down with that next time put honey on your avocado toast it's delicious yeah sweet avocado toast i do that all the time why don't more people do that because they ate me dude get some like dates and honey and a little bit of nuts on avocado toast delicious yo breakfast into it

am i next yeah lania something says ketchup on eggs is nasty to ease no why um that's false i love eggs and ketchup it's delicious it's dank what are you talking about i don't like it when my eggs are runny though when my eggs are runny i like to have it with hot sauce the ketchup kind of like makes it like this weird cold yolk situation so i'll eat it with an omelet but i won't eat it with runny eggs. Do you remember what I ate at like 11 a.m. yesterday? Four eggs. Boom. Scrambled. Yes.

With a lot of ketchup on it. There was also some Arizona Gunslinger hot sauce in the ketchup. That's like my favorite meal. Oh, yeah. You love that. Ketchup on eggs is absolutely beautiful. I love that I get this next one for a reason.

Robin Nabat says, Gourmet Sabzi is whack. Nicole, is this one of your friends? All of these have been my friends. Erica's my friend. Robin is my friend. ETFP is my friend. These are all people I associate with.

You were the one that, dang it. Whatever. We'll do some non-Nicole's friends. I love Gourmet Sabzi. Gourmet Sabzi, for people who don't know, I love that I'm the one explaining this. It is a Persian Khoresh, which is a stew that is made with a ton of fresh herbs and kidney beans and typically beef. Yeah.

Typically beef. Fenugreek is one of the main flavors that you're tasting in it, but tons of what parsley is a fresh dill in there. Parsley. Not, well, my mom, every,

every mom makes it different. My mom puts cilantro, parsley, tada. Tada is like a type of green onion. It's like specific to Persian people. Some people put spinach in there. Some people put some other green herbs in there whatever you want to put in there great great acidic uh herbaceous stew i love gourmet zubsy me too all right uh at i'm next

i'm next oh my gosh i'm sorry it's my it's my turn matthew devani says i hate food but I love Mythical Kitchen That was me blowing you a kiss Thank you, that's very sweet At Just Mainstream Trash Says Fruity Pebbles as a chicken tender Is it soup? That's a sandwich, that's all I know Here's my problem with it

Are they saying you should do it whole or Buzz them up in a processor and make them like a crumb coating if you do that they turn a very weird color it's like a grayish purple i have a feeling just like straight fruity pebbles also when you fry a sugary cereal it burned it caramelizes on the outside it burns before the chicken's done yeah shockingly i am against this idea you'd think i would be very for it nope nope i agree don't do it am i next yeah one heart 907 says chicken parmesan is bs because they let a perfectly crispy chicken get soggy why make a beautiful crust if you're just gonna cover it in sauce it's about okay so when you have a really

good chicken parmesan like only like the center part has like a bunch of sauce on it but the edges stay crispy so you get the duality of that super crispy chicken and then that really soft beautiful anxious meat with the cheese on it and that's that this is me snapping for nicole thank you there's also i think there's words in other i think there's a chinese word for a like crispy food soaked in sauce and the texture that's creates it's really magical yeah because this is a lot different than like you know if you fry something and soak it in sauce it doesn't like just get soggy yeah there's this beautiful like half kind of like the tension of the crunch is yielding to the sauce it's beautiful the top is like soggy but there's the center that's

still crisp and then the bottom part of the protein that got a little wet is there too so i totally know what you mean crispy fried things covered and soaked in sauce is one of my favorite things in the world. Shout out Panda Express. Orange chicken. All right. At bearded underscore Viking underscore geek. Wow. Taco Bell cinnamon twist dipped in Taco Bell nacho cheese is the best combo at Taco Bell.

One, no, because the best combo at Taco Bell is pretty much anything. Fire sauce and cheesy fiesta potatoes is a really simple, delicious combo. I have dipped cinnamon twists in nacho cheese. No, you haven't. I sure have. Why have you done that? Because they were there. Oh my gosh. And I want to shotgun method the entire food world. My idea is I want to just create every flavor profile in my mouth and put that up in the memory bank and then use that for later. So I have had that. I get the appeal of the sweet and savory and all that up in the memory bank and then use that for later so i have had that um i get the appeal of the sweet and savory and all that it's not for me i'd rather

dip nachos and nacho cheese i'd rather dip cinnamon twists in the little glaze that they give for the cinnabon delights oh my gosh i'm sorry i cannot uh i cannot grasp my brain is having a malfunction last one i mean no this doesn't have to be the last one but this is one it's called bazzo h minsky he has a few opinions okay so i think we should read one and then move on okay yeah green peppers don't belong in anything i don't agree i think they belong in a lot of things you ever had a sofrito it's quite delicious cajun trinity bell pepper onion celery okay cool kiwis should be eaten like apples. Like with the skin on?

Do you eat kiwi skin? I don't. I sure don't. I don't like, neither of us like kiwis though, right? Kiwi makes my tongue itch. I'll still eat it though. Yeah, the texture inside a kiwi is like broken glass and I really don't like eating fuzzy. I don't like eating fuzzy skins on fruits.

Like you get like a real hairy nectarine. I love nectarines. Nectarines are my favorite. Don't give me fruit hair. I don't want fruit hairs. I love hairy nectarines. I like a good shaven nectarine i love nectarines nectarines are my favorite don't give me fruit hair i don't want hairy nectarine i like a good shaven nectarine i love nectarines are so delicious okay filet mignon is the worst steak it's not it's not the worst it's good it can withstand cooking temp like a high cooking time yeah yeah i agree that you know it it's something where filet mignon for such a long time was considered like the big business boy steak like oh i'm uh jordan belfort jordan the wolf of wall street guy for people who don't know that guy's name i'm gonna eat a filet mignon and margot robbie's gonna divorce me or whatever um but no now i think i think we're like

20 years away from people being like ribeye is the worst steak it's so overrated because now like everyone's all up on the ribeyes i don't think anyone's gonna eat steak in 20 years away from people being like, ribeye is the worst steak. It's so overrated because now like everyone's all up on the ribeyes. I don't think anyone's going to eat steak in 20 years. That's also true. Yeah. Last one. This guy says is eating a banana is like biting into a turd. Yeah.

Here's the thing. As someone who's bitten into a lot of turds, I just can't speak to that. I got, it looks certainly looks like a turd more than any of the other fruits. Except, you know what really looks like a turd? Fresh tamarind in the pod. Google fresh tamarind in the pod.

Looks like a poop. Yeah, but it's yummy. It tastes so yummy. Yeah, I like tamarind pods. It tastes so yummy. It's almost as yummy as this podcast, which is now over. Bye. Boom.

Clean out. So clean. So good at this. Mr. Clean. And on that note, you know what? I'm new to podcast. And on that note, no, there's no that note. We're just done.

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