A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Is Instagram Ruining Food?

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

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This, this, this, this is Mythical. Instagram, a feast for the eyes or an unwelcome interruption to your Sunday brunch? Take the picture, Karen. My quinoa frittata's getting cold. Today we ask, is Instagram ruining food? This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich.

A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Well, it's been a while, but we are back up and running from our respective homes with this quarantine edition of A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show where we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Scherer. And I'm your host, Nicole Hendizadeh. And today we're answering the question, is Instagram ruining food? Nicole, what do you think?

No, I don't. I don't think it food nicole what do you think no i don't i don't think it is josh what do you think okay one i mean one i do yeah i believe instagram is ruining food which is a new revelation for me and i have been on the record as saying instagram is not ruining food before but i have changed since then my positions have evolved i have evolved as a person i have more body hair now um especially during quarantine when I'm not shaving because I have no one to impress. But yeah, I believe Instagram is ruining food. Obviously, it's a very complicated issue. Okay, so first, to really break down the question, I like how I start everything with to break down the question, what is macaroni? No, to break down the question of Instagram ruining food,

we have to like decide, you know, when food food was great not to get political on main here when we're talking about is instagram ruining food i think the larger discussion here is like what is the role of food media and how is that actually either helping or hurting people instagram is a microcosm of all this and like you and i are obviously a big part of this so this is a somewhat personal issue for us i see you instagram i see you you instagram your eyebrow tutorials you also instagram your delicious foods that you cook so we're both a part of this josh i'm on instagram right now literally scrolling as you speak thank you for paying me the respect that I deserve, which is roughly no problem. No problem. Yeah. I mean, I, I personally think that, I mean, if it wasn't for Instagram, I wouldn't have a job not to get anecdotal on it, not to get anecdotal on Maine, but if it wasn't for Instagram, you would have never seen my body

of work and then you would have never hired me. So I think Instagram is wonderful for the food industry and I don't think it ruins it at all. If I didn't have Instagram, I wouldn't know at least 70% of the food industry people that I know now. It really has helped connect and open my eyes to a lot of new different ways of cooking. Yeah, there's some perversion in there. Don't get me wrong.

I know deep frying a pizza and then slapping some chicken tendies on it and then deep frying it again and then putting nachos on it and then deep frying it again and then putting a Caesar salad on it is wrong. I'm not going to lie to you. It's a little perverted and I understand that. But the benefits of Instagram and what it does for food definitely outweighs the crappy stuff. Nicole, I used to be like you. Believe me, I used to believe the same thing. Because I mean, Instagram, anything on social media and all forms of media, they give you a sense of community, they kind of give you a tribe, people that share your same interests, and food has obviously become a huge part of that. But at what point does a tribe and a community become a clique? And at

what point does, you know, a simple interest that one, everybody should have, like cooking is a basic skill that literally everyone should know. But I think Instagram has kind of elevated it to the somewhat exclusive thing. You've seen a lot of people, especially during quarantine, I think a lot of people have, you know, one been faced with the idea that like, oh, crap, I have to cook all the time now and I can't go out to restaurants. But then two, there have been a lot of people who say they're intimidated by certain things like sourdough bread baking, you have all these people posting their gorgeous pictures of

food. And then rather than that inspiring people to make it, it intimidates them. And that's another thing is that Instagram always favors the beautiful, which is kind of a problem and a thing that you and I deal with on the daily. Whenever you're making content for internet as far as food goes you need to constantly be thinking about like what looks the best what sounds the best what's going to get the most eyes on it because that's literally first yeah i mean what is it eyes eat first food eats first the food the food is cannibalizing the food the food eats first the chili fries are eating the pizza. The Caesar salad is getting eaten by the corn dog. Yeah. The camera eats first. Yeah. I, oh no, phone eats first. I think that's what you say all the time. That happens when I drop my phone into a vat of nacho cheese, the phone eats first. Yes. Yes. That's correct. And there's something like vaguely, not even vaguely,

there's something incredibly disgusting about that idea that i've turned into that person realizing during quarantine how cooking is such a basic skill that literally everyone needs i think we need to have classes on it in school i think it's something that literally everyone should be able to do like laundry or taxes but now we've turned it into do you know how to do your taxes you know how to do your taxes dude no but i should i maybe if there was an instagram for taxes we would all be good yo if there was an ins you know i think there is an instagram for taxes but they wear suits and like that's just really intimidating like don't wear a suit on instagram live you know like if you're wearing like a t-shirt and jeans talking about like uh like property tax and like how to file by a certain date like i would care about that but

like they wear suits and stuff it's weird wait who are these instagram tax people i'll send you their links please because i have no idea how to do it and i think it's coming out yeah already pass uh yeah i think it was april 18th i don't know my dad does my taxes for me he he um will your dad do my taxes for me yeah he's very, very intuitive with these things. It's quite shocking. Nicole, I'll give you any financial document you need from me. That's totally fine. Forward it to Morris.

All right, so when we're talking about letting essentially an algorithm decide what food content that people see or don't see, which means what food is important to them and what is not, I think that's where we run into a really weird problem because like you said, with the deep fried nacho pizza, blah, blah, blah, it's not just that that stuff is, you know, I don't know, unhealthy. Some people have made that argument, like Instagram favors unhealthy food, which I don't care about that at all. But the fact that it's favoring things that are very complicated,

things that are spectacular, things that are not simple and very helpful. Sensationalized. Sensationalized foodized food content sensationalized food content look at what look at what's happened to the food network i spoke earlier about you know when was food great i think a lot of people me and you included maybe over romanticized the kind of like early 2000s with the food network and you know we grew up learning to cook from rachel ray and alton brown and you know, we grew up learning to cook from Rachel Ray and Alton Brown and, you know, Tyler Florence, all these people. And then now every Food Network show is like, we've tied the chef's hands behind his back, blindfolded him and put him in a kiddie pool. Now he has to try and make a souffle. And Alton Brown has become this like circus ringleader

character. And so, you know, Food Network had to kind of sensationalize their things to keep up ratings. There was an exec once that was quoted as saying, our job is not to teach people how to cook. It's to get people to watch television. And to me, that's how I view Instagram and kind of, I don't know, our jobs in general is like our, is our job to teach people how to cook, which would be very, very helpful. Or is it our job to get eyes on these images of food? So they're two very different things. I think we, I mean, just you and I and just the Mythical Kitchen in general, I think,

has a good balance of both of being outlandish and downright stupid and for entertainment purposes only. And then having, you know, that educational snippet here and there. Or else, you know, the hashtag that we created, dreams become food, wouldn't have over 500, you know, reiterations of it. People are actually learning, you know, it's, it depends. You can follow whatever content you want on Instagram. There's only like one food network. So like you can just watch that channel and get whatever you want from it. But Instagram, you have the ability to follow whoever you want. You can follow people that inspire you. You can follow people that, you know, teach you.

You can follow people that, you know, they have a raw vegan diet and they use things like blue, what is that? Blue powder? You know the blue powder. Butterfly pea powder. Yeah, like using like really cool ingredients that you wouldn't see all the time, you know, doing cool things like making an avocado rose. Like, I don't know how to do that. I never knew how to do that, but I watched it. It was a tutorial on Instagram and I learned it. And I think there's, you can pick and choose. The thing about Instagram is that it creates, you have the ability to choose. And then there's also the explore page that like

really, really shows you the content that you would algorithmically like. And it creates this really, really cool feed that you can see what you want and what you enjoy. And I think that's a benefit. You can customize what you see food-wise. And I think that's awesome. It is true. And I get it. And this is a very kind of subtle...

This is a very... This is a touchy argument, right? Because YouTube YouTube gotten itself in a lot of hot water. And this is like very kind of deep media nerd stuff got itself in a lot of hot water because people noticed as trending videos that are served to you on an algorithm basis. They kind of keep getting more and more extreme because that's what you naturally crave, right? When you go onto your Instagram discover page, you're not like, oh, there's a simple salad and a salad dressing.

It's just like, yo, what's that pizza topped with a bunch of fries? Or like, what is that beautifully articulated avocado rose? What is this bright blue thing? What's gonna catch your eye first, right? And so you kind of think you're choosing, but how much choice do you really have? Nicole, does free will exist,

or are we all just doomed and predestined from God, aka the algorithm? Josh, did you know that when I used to go to CPK when I was little, I would take a pizza and I would put french fries on it. So when you said that, it took me back to a really specific food memory I had, which is really helpful because, you know, Instagram doesn't ruin food. It like reminds you like, oh my God, do you remember that time when like we went to that place and they had a really great like poached egg? You can learn. do you know how many people know how to poach an egg now because of instagram i'm not kidding the actual caliber of people learning about food from instagram has grown exponentially i don't have the data but if i ask someone five years ago do you know how to poach an

egg and if i ask them now they're like yeah i yeah, I'm not a poach and egg. That's because Instagram has created this universe where, yeah, maybe the content is not exactly, you know, handpicked. There is an algorithm that assists you in liking what you like. But you know, that's another podcast for another day. is real no but but what if you but what if you had the actual data to support that because millennials cook less than any other generation millennials are also the first generation to ever spend more on food eating out than they do at home which is you know a double-edged sword that's a very great thing for the restaurant industry right a lot of people make that argument that instagram uh on or that food on instagram has been great for the restaurant industry because it supports the restaurant. Dominique Crenn said that it's giving her exposure and she's a legit fine dining chef. So it's not just novelty foods. And I think that gets overstated a little bit.

Like it's not just novelty foods on Instagram. That's other things. But has the restaurant industry actually gotten any better for people? Have people actually learned how to cook more? The data doesn't suggest that they have well what does that mean i don't know my whole argument is ruined josh no i mean it's it's not because i mean it's it's there are obviously other factors that play here economic factors and all that but yeah that was i told you i wrote this article a while ago that said that um instagramming

everything you eat is a good thing for society because anytime you see an image of food you're more interested in learning about that food so you're going to be interested in the farming of it you know chefs now are multi-millionaires and they're media stars you look at david chang jose andres all these people but then i think i'm just down in the dumps from the whole quarantine thing and seeing what's happening to the restaurant industry but it's like if now these people are multi-millionaires and stars and they're all these good people that control such a huge you know lion's share of the restaurant industry then like dang two weeks of restaurants closed just put like uh 80 percent of workers out of business people that didn't have healthcare all the stuff so we're sitting over here saying

like yeah instagram a picture of that restaurant dish. It's helping the restaurant. That's awesome. You know, giving them support. And then the industry just collapses. And obviously, this is an economic issue. This isn't about Instagram itself. But for me, it kind of exposed a bit of the fallacy of saying like, we're doing a good job just by posting images of food. There's a lot of deeper layers there. Yeah, I think posting images of food is another factor. You know, the marketing that it did for restaurants whenever it was pre-quarantine time was really helpful, I think, for those restaurants all throughout the world. You know, I follow this risotto restaurant in Florence, Italy that I had no idea it existed

until I randomly saw it on my explore page. And they do like grapefruit risotto, like with candied walnuts and stuff. And I just think that's so interesting. And like, I would have never known about this place if it wasn't for Instagram. But when you said, uh, um, like you said a lot of good things about like how it helped like Dominique Crenn and like other, like, like really, really important chefs in the industry. What kind of food on Instagram bothers you is my question. Like, why do you think it's ruining like food in general, not the restaurant industry or like not like necessarily the food stylist industry or whatever? Like, what is it about IG food that really like pisses you off? I mean, there's your classic Instagram. There's your classic Instagrammy foods,

like the whole rainbow movement where people would just add food dyes to cheese and then put it in a grilled cheese and do that like cheese pull and it just looks like a unicorn vomited into a slice of bread stuff like that i don't think but do you think that ruined grilled cheese for you i don't think it ruined grilled cheese but to me it's the precedent that it's set where it's like images are more important than actual food right that to me is the issue in this i it set where it's like images are more important than actual food. Right. That to me is the issue in this.

I mean, if you look at David Chang's show, Ugly Delicious, I love the thesis behind that, which is just like ugly food. What we consider, quote unquote, ugly is really, really delicious. And it is very valid. And you're going to post a picture of this South Indian stew on your Instagram. And maybe it just looks brown and people aren't going to click like on it. But it could be the most delicious food that you've ever eaten. So food that takes the image being more important than the actual taste. It's tough. And again, we say this as people who this is exactly what we do. And so it's kind of weird to even be talking about it. And maybe this will never even go to air and we're just going to shut this down entirely. But I think what it comes down to for me, like you said,

Instagram is a place where you can curate what you are actually saying. To me, then it becomes a responsibility on the actual creators of that to make it very clear that like, this is a dish that may not look good. It is very, very important. And you have a responsibility to actually, you know, curate the experiences. Like you said, I do think we try and strike a balance of like, here is education about food. And even if we get people into a video by making, you know, I don't know, an Oreo biscuit,

that giant Oreo that looks like a biscuit and all that, you know, we're actually teaching people about technique and stuff like that and the history of food. And I think how to consume food ethically in some ways at least. And so I think this all comes down to responsibility of the actual creators of food content. I do agree. I think the responsibility of the creators there, but you know, some people, their sole purpose, for example, yummy.com is a great example. Their main purpose is to just throw stuff to instagram

and have people watch it a lot of the times the things they do are not safe have you seen those yummy.com videos where they uh put caramel on like a hot stove and they tell people that makes a candy in my heart i'm like no no don't do that that's uh i'm like no this is horrific and people but people aren't recreating that you know they're watching it because it's interesting to watch like oh my gosh this person took caramel and they made a made a cookie out of it that's crazy there's no way like scientifically that could actually happen that's just a food styling thing i would know because i did that a long time ago and i lied to the general public but like it's just for entertainment purposes and i feel like like one day people will be smart enough to know that this content from this place is for entertainment purposes not necessarily to

duplicate and learn you know what i mean this is like uh was it charles barkley who's like i'm not a role model i didn't ask for your kids to look up to me this is don't talk about sports okay this is like uh no you don't play video games either man our references really don't hit with each other no but no they don't this is i suppose somewhat the argument of like violent video games like teens should teens people know the difference between video violence and violence in real life people know the difference between content that is just made for entertainment and things you should actually do at home so you're saying there's yeah well you hope that yeah that makes sense i mean i do think that that's a really really interesting development that we haven't seen because even back

in our day when we were growing up with food network they weren't just entertainment first there was nothing that like every even every cooking show out there with very entertaining hosts and all that, it was still informative. And the idea was, here's a recipe that you are going to make. I remember the first thing that I watched where I realized that, oh, food can be purely a form of entertainment. It was epic mealtime. And I love- Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. That was a huge moment for me where I was like, you're doing these things that I could never do. And I am going to sit here and watch every single minute of it and love it and be delighted. And it's never going to actually affect my real life in the way that like, I'm not gonna, what do they do? They like stuffed a duck inside of a chicken inside of a turkey inside of a whole pig, and then wrapped it in bacon. Yeah, that sounds on brand for them yeah and that

was awesome and like you said earlier you wouldn't have this career without instagram i wouldn't have this career without one instagram but to that inspiration from epic mealtime and i think there is value in teaching people to play with their food and that food is fun and it's kind of silly and stupid sometimes but then where does that you know intersect with the idea that like food is a basic skill and necessity well that's the thing instagram has all of that instagram has the informative it has the entertaining it has the outlandish it has the disgusting i mean we make eyeball pasta man who's gonna make eyeball pasta literally no one i didn't want to make eyeball i mean i wanted to make it it was fun it was delicious and shout out to ryan for sourcing the eyeballs that seems so long ago i mean it's just it's just i don't i mean i love the epic mealtime guys i think what they did

in terms of like outlandish food was so unique and so wonderful and like honestly props to harley harley's yeah shout out to harley morenstein really morenstein friend of the show awesome dude yeah like what he did for like the food world i think was awesome it was outlandish and it was in your face and at times it was like disgusting but i like you said he was definitely inspirational and people like him aka people like us i think really inspire people through the medium of Instagram and YouTube and things like that. So I think it does help a lot of people. And I think it creates this really cool environment where people are experimenting, like you said. But, you know, things like Bon Appetit, God bless them.

Like they have people teaching other people how to cook pasta until it's al dente. Like that exists out there. Like people teaching people how to do really, really simple things. And then there's the opposite end of the spectrum of, you know, deep frying a pizza. So I think Instagram is doing amazing things for food, Josh. I really do. I think I just had an epiphany. What is it?

So talking about food for entertainment purposes i i remember back in college i would watch epic mealtime all the time i was living in a house of like nine other dudes it was this duplex in santa barbara and we actually we didn't recreate an epic mealtime thing but we took inspiration from it and i was already cooking a lot back then and i made this like 40 pound quiche for some reason for my friend's birthday that had a bunch of hot pockets and big macs shoved into the quiche neither here nor there uh but i remember none of my roommates really cooked they would always get takeout from a local place uh and then i started making these like weird outlandish things especially when we were drinking and i'm realizing now that that was the carrot that kind

of got them in the door to cooking and that's really cool i literally like that's awesome i i remember all my roommates coming up to me and being like, Hey man, like, how do you make that? I was making like sloppy joes or something. Uh, and I taught them how to all together. They were all gathered around the kitchen. I taught them how to chop a red onion and tomatoes and saute it. And I remember after that, all of my roommates went out and bought red onions and tomatoes from Costco, no less. And so we just had like 30 red onions and tomatoes. And it was the first time a lot of them had ever cooked with fresh vegetables. And it's funny saying that the beginning of that journey was like an epic

mealtime inspired chicken nugget quiche fest. There you go, Josh. That's amazing. You've always been a teacher at heart, haven't you? Yeah, you know know i used to work with children nicole that's why i'm so patient with you i feel like children scare the crap out of you my first job ever was being a kid science teacher for a camp called destination science and the children oh yeah you told me this the children scared the crap out of me i'm so bad with kids because i try and get them to like me and then i lose their respect in less than a day. In eight hours. I used to be like you. I used to be like you and then you know what? You just got to go in with confidence and be like,

hey, my name is Josh. You're going to listen to me. That's how I do it. I make sure my voice goes into a baritone and I refer to myself as Josh. It works really, really well. You're going to listen to me. My name's Josh. Where is she? My name's josh where is she where is she so that makes sense i guess what we're really talking about nicole it's not it's not instagram

it's not instagram ruining food that's not even the question instagram is merely a reflection of us it is the black mirror from which we look into and see ourselves our behaviors reflected back at us it's not instagram that needs to change it's us you are what you attract and if you're attracting a deep fried pizza topped with chicken tenders deep fried again chopped with nachos deep fried again topped with a caesar salad you suck and you need to reevaluate yourself stop that's to be the next episode on Mythical Kitchen as we're making that dish. Nicole, we've heard what you and I have to say. Now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the Twitterverse. It's time for a segment we call Opinions are like...

Opinions are like casseroles. Why do you laugh in the middle of it, bro? Dude, it's the lag time in a video call that just makes it sound so stupid in my head all right we're gonna start with a shady opinion from 80s mclaughlin is that the ret mclaughlin probably not i like wrapping i like wrapping pickle slices and tortilla wraps and eating it as a burrito. I don't know if I call that a burrito. That's a wrap.

I'm confused. So they put pickle slices in the tortilla or they put the tortilla in the pickle slice? No, no. They're literally just throwing a bunch of pickle slices. It has to be a slice, which I would throw a whole pickle in the tortilla and wrap it up because then you get more pickle surface area touching it. The wrap, the slices are going to give you air pockets. So I don't like their execution already. But they wrap pickle slices in tortillas and then they eat it by itself.

Just eat the pickle by itself. Like no need for that extra carbohydrate. It's like a it's like a mezza plate, you know, like you get your pickles and you get your lavash and then you're just eating those together. I'm for it. It's a little sad. If you think about it, that's kind of a struggle meal. It's a little sad. OK, next bean borettes.

OK, I eat everything cold. Beans cold. Chicken cold. Spaghetti cold. Mashed potatoes cold. Cauliflower cold. Everyone thinks it's weird. And while they aren't wrong, I simply prefer my foods cold um i'm wondering if this is a tooth sensitivity thing yet again it seems like

all these people have preferences due to like medical issues is that wrong of me to like predetermine i don't know i guess it's like how i don't eat gummies because i have i have fillings that are loose and they'll fall out. I think it is a little premature to make that judgment that this is all about teeth sensitivity. Also, cold food is often what your teeth are sensitive to, so why would they eat everything cold? Maybe they got hot mouth syndrome. They got a hot mouth syndrome.

That is not something I'd ever want to be accused of. I have a friend named Chad. He's my best friend, and eats uh everything cold as well including mashed potatoes and i've always thought he was very weird for it but he's still one of my best friends so bean boy ret i think you're weird but you could still be one of my best friends if chad is any indication all right so we got at skelam 84 a peanut butter sandwich on the cheapest white bread you can find paired with a bowl of chili. Yep. Same rules as chili and cornbread. Same rules as the chili and cinnamon roll thing, which I found out Sarah Whittle from Smosh grew up on eating in her cafeteria. Same rules. You take something a

little bit sweet, a little bit cakey, even though peanut butter is not inherently sweet, and then you eat it with spicy chili. That sounds delicious to me. I put peanut butter in my chili. So dipping a peanut butter sandwich into it, I am doing that the next time I get chili. Shout out Skellum84. You're a freaking genius. I guess I just wasn't raised on chili, you know? So this is all very odd to me. Very, very odd.

I don't know if I want to try it. I'm sorry, Skellum84. There's Persian chili. What is Persian chili? Geymeh? Geymeh is lentils, dog. dog dude there's beans and chili game as persian chili game is lentils what that's you can make lentil chili like all the fitness bloggers who makes lentil chili if you're making lentil chili you need to reevaluate your life you're actually

making gamma okay next up is real sam had. Is it against the rules to put blueberry pancake batter in a 9x9 cake pan and cook it on 350 for 12 minutes, cut it into rectangles, and pour honey on it to make blueberry cake bars? Absolutely not. That sounds delicious and actually sounds like a great little food hack if you ask me. That's brilliant. This is weird because I think that's a terrible idea. What? food hack if you ask me that's brilliant this is weird because i think that's a terrible idea is that it's shocking because i'm normally the person who has terrible ideas and not the person who's judging them but no here's here's my problem with it a pancake is a pancake for a reason the batter is different than actual cake batter for a reason it has less sugar in it so you can like

put it in a pan and get direct heat contact on it so it doesn't caramelize if you've ever tried to just pan fry a cake batter it burns before it actually cooks but pancake batter doesn't cake batter is best baked pancake batter is best fried in a pan so when you're baking pancake batter all you're doing is making a less good cake that's my opinion but the blueberries make it sweet so it's good it sounds nice like i would definitely eat it but you know it's one of those things where it's like a tool exists for a specific purpose for a reason. I'd just rather have pancakes. And yes, real Sam Hatcock, it is against the rules.

You should be put in jail for that. Oh, my gosh. All right. Just Jesse H. Leftover Chinese food is so much better a day later and eaten cold than it is fresh. I, I would, I don't know. This is disrespectful. I, man, I'm a negative nelly today this is happening

come on josh smile what's wrong with you i think it's because my room smells so bad and that's where i'm recording from because the room is also my gym and i got under open a window i can't it's gonna mess with the audio they're doing uh yard work outside in the common areas that are completely closed in my apartment which is great uh but no left to retain i think you have some sort of a duty to eat food as it is meant to be prepared by the chef so if they're saying this dish is better hot then you kind of have a duty to eat it hot and there's a lot of really great cold chinese food dishes especially those little like szechuan appetizers like the uh what's the like acorn

jelly with uh szechuan peppercorn chili oil on it yes that's absolutely delicious i know exactly what you're talking about if you like to eat chinese food cold and like i've taken some bites of orange chicken from panda cold from the fridge it is pretty good i don't think it's better a day later that said live your life just jesse h i think it's good either way underscore neeners truffle anything tastes like vomit and i'm convinced people just pretend to like it to seem fancy. Okay, I low-key agree with you. Truffle is a very intense flavor, and people like to pretend.

They don't pretend. I don't think people pretend to like food. I just think truffle is an ingredient that's best used sparingly, and that's where I stand. Don't overload your food with truffle have a little bit of common decency i think truffle does taste like vomit and i do think that people pretend to like certain things just to seem fancy but i don't know where you like the taste of vomit yeah yeah yeah i mean not fresh vomit i like the truffle taste of vomit i like

truffles it's a very it's a somewhat it's a somewhat offensive flavor but like when you were a kid and you tried beer for the first time it was like ew gross it's soda but not sweet and tastes like old bread and so you grow to learn these things do you consider that to be pretending to like them to the point where you actually do like them like faking it until you make it i don't know that's a whole other discussion i suppose uh but i do think there's some truth that people like things to seem more interesting or fancier than they actually are that said i'm also one of those people so i love truffles and caviar deal with that okay she cool like that what i'm sorry i pre-reacted to this one dipping string cheese in chocolate pudding that's nasty i don't know i'm trying to imagine it wait have you had like uh was, uh, was it Kanafe? Yes, I have. It's quite delicious. That's like a pretty stringy cheese with a bunch of delicious, like sweet honey and stuff on it. Right. And it's not chocolate pudding, but I'm trying to draw the like commonality between the two. So would you, it is not the same. would you dip string cheese in honey yeah i have before

honey is just chocolate pudding made by bees that's my opinion casserole honey is chocolate pudding but made by bees and that's i'm sorry and that's facts nicole underscore korean queen chicken and mushroom pizza with garlic parmesan sauce instead of marinara is the best. It's like a mini pasta bowl, but flat. Hashtag opinion casserole. Korean queen, this sounds good. That sounds delicious. I give you a high five.

I'm laughing at it. It's like a bowl, but flat. Girl, that's called a plate. It exists. You stupid. No, but's called a plate. It exists. Stupid. No, but I do completely agree with her. I love meat. Not just like a white sauce pizza that's like, you know, oh, this is from this region, Italy.

No, I love like a garlic cream Alfredo sauce with chicken and bacon and all that on pizza. That sounds delicious right now. I might try and make one for lunch. All right. At Pugtato1013 spicy nacho doritos inside a fried pb and j the most delicious sandwich uh yeah convinced yeah yeah i love putting chips in my sandwiches a lot spicy nachos an underrated flavor of dorito too it doesn't have like burn your mouth heat but it's just a little bit more exciting than nacho

cheese spicy nachos maybe the unsung hero of the dorito universe agreed there's a lot of peanut butter content yeah half of the half of the opinions that we get are just people eating peanut butter sandwiches with different things on them it's it's quite inundated with peanut butter i can't handle it okay neppy nut is that how you say that uh that's how I choose to say it. Nipnut. Nipnut. Nipnut says, I don't know how weird this is, but SpaghettiOs with meatballs are far superior to meatball-less SpaghettiOs, which are just sad. Both of those sound very sad.

And I can't help you because I've never had SpaghettiOs. Oh, my God. Okay, I know exactly what they're talking about when i was a kid um spaghettios with meatballs are a little bit more expensive so i always like thought that they were very fancy and for fancy rich people so when i was a kid anytime they went on sale i would like crave the spaghettios with meatballs and i tried to eat one as an adult and uh the meatballs aren't exactly your artisanal pulpete from your osteria down the street they kind of taste like dog food do i still think they're better no i'm gonna say original spaghettios are better i want the purity i don't need that extra meat if i want protein i'll drink a protein shake um what does spaghettios taste like are they

like sweet have you ever do they are so sweet have you ever had um uh campbell's tomato soup yes all right so imagine you take equal parts corn syrup and campbell's tomato soup and then you overcook and then you overcook pasta rings into absolute oblivion so you don't have to chew them and then that's spaghettios uh i do not like that kind of there's okay they're a canned product like this isn't an elitist thing like Like I love canned dinty more beef stew. I think that stuff is delicious. I love me some. So do I.

It's so good. I love corned beef hash in a can. To me, any artisanal corned beef hash will never recreate the flavor of canned corned beef hash. But SpaghettiOs are a thing for me that like, even when I was a kid, I didn't even like them that much. I just craved them because I thought rich people ate them inexplicably. Cool. Is it my turn? Okay okay uh no it's my turn i'm gonna go to smosh the like

mayo chip is a superior condiment but not like the pre-mixed stuff though yup uh yup it's quite it's quite dank big fan but it's funny that they called it mayo chip because like a half quote unquote secret sauces 90 percent of the actual ingredients are just mayonnaise and ketchup right like thousand island you add some pickle pickles to it uh russian dressing some say it doesn't have ketchup in it but all these things in utah they call it fry sauce in argentina they call it salsa rosa i believe there's like 90 different names for mayonnaise and ketchup mixed together. Salsa de Golf? Yes, Salsa de Golf in Argentina, right?

Is it Argentina? I think it's Argentina. Yeah, I think Puerto Rico's Salsa Rosa. But the point is, like, everyone around the world can't be wrong. Mayonnaise and ketchup is such a delicious sauce. Best thing to put on fries. Agreed. Twins play.

Door sauce is a culinary masterpiece. You can never make the same door sauce twice so it's all as a new experience different sauce ratios quality and combinations of sauces faced with a monocle let's break this down door sauce what they seem to be implying is that you open your fridge door and you take a couple different sauces and you combine them together i respect it i respect that and it's true. Like I do that all the time. I'll do like, you know, ranch dressing, salsa, fish sauce, hot sauce, mix it together. And it always turns out really good. Agreed.

I think this is a brilliant way to like name the thing that we always do. What's it called when you give something like a proper name? Canonize. Yes, we have canonized the process, boys and girls. Door sauce. Door sauce coming to a door near you in 2021. And on that note,

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