A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Pro Chefs Roast Each Other's Kitchens
Episode Date: November 12, 2025Today, Josh and Nicole have taken pictures of each of their kitchens and the two duke it out to see who has the ultimate setup. Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video version ...of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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My kitchen's the best.
No, mine is!
Well, my kitchen has more cat hair on it.
No, mine does.
This is a hot dog is a sandwich.
Cetchup is a smoothie.
Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what?
That makes no sense.
A hot dog is a sandwich.
A hot dog is a sandwich.
What?
Welcome to our podcast to Hot Dog is a Sandwich,
the show we break down the world's biggest food
debates. I'm your host Josh Cher.
And I'm your host, Nicole,
and I am. And today, the food world's
biggest debate is, um, whose
kitchen is gross or mine or yours.
I have two cats. You have one. I only have one cat, but
he flings his poo
so far in a radius outside.
What? This has become a perennial
debate. This is more about cats and kitchen.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm ready.
Um, Julia doesn't like it when
there's like outside clothes in the bed.
Don't wear outside clothes in your bed. You're taking all the
the dirt from in there. You know, don't, uh,
Don't walk your shoes into the living room because there's dirt on him.
We have a cat that poops in a box, stomps around in his own poo, flings half of that in a radius 10 feet outside of his litter box, and then just traipses around the house and, like, sleeps in our bed after he steps in poo.
And I understand the argument that cats are cleaner.
They're like self-cleaning animals.
They have antimicrobial tongues, whatever.
He's stepping in poo, which is the worst thing.
Yeah.
Pooh and like diseased blood are the two things that you worry about getting.
in your bed.
We have an animal
that lives in his own poo
cuddling up to us.
I should be allowed
to wear shoes in the bedroom.
I mean,
but like grossness
doesn't beget
other grossness.
In a way,
I believe it does.
I don't think,
I don't,
because you love,
there's poo in the bed.
My jeans are cleaning the bed.
No, no,
you are allowed,
you are allowed a few gross things
just to keep it going,
you know,
to keep you going.
But when that gross thing
is animal poo?
You sell,
it sounds like you made your poo bed,
Now you have to lie in it.
I hate you so much of Pippin's hair.
I literally don't let my cats into my bedroom.
Did you know that?
My cats aren't allowed in my bedroom.
They don't sleep in the bed with us.
You should either be all gross or all clean.
That's how you live in squalor.
Or you live in a completely sterile, clean environment.
I hate sterile environments.
I just want to wear my shoes in bed.
Ew.
Why?
Why do we're doing today?
Are you trying to run away?
Are you trying to run away or sleep?
Sometimes I have to go take out the trash, but I want to say.
but I want to sit down from it.
I don't want to take off my shoes,
can then relays them,
but they're back on, yeah.
Do you wear,
do you have, like, pajamas?
No.
Do you have, like, designated pajal clothes?
Underward, that's it.
I sleep, I sleep,
I sleep in my dirty underwear from the day.
I wake up in them.
I wear them to the gym.
No!
They're already dirty.
And they're not dirty.
I don't have body odors,
they don't smell very bad.
And I have bidet,
so I don't,
no, skid marks.
No, go right from that.
You don't wear nighttime undies?
No, how much laundry might do?
I'm already have a full outfit
from the gym
here we shoot multiple things i have multiple shirts it'd be bad for the environment if i wore clean
underwear to bed thank you for coming to my ted talk sorry i was just curious because like some
people don't do you know some people don't have nighttime clothes or like sleepy clothes i am that some
people do you ever like do you ever like wear a shirt to bed ever no never never never like never in
if i sleep over at a friend's house and i'm sleeping in their living room i sleep just in my underwear
I do
Someone could walk in and that's fine
It's gonna be me and my underwear
Having kicked off the single sheet on the couch
That they gave me
Yeah
I won't wear my
Because I have like three pairs of like skimpy underwear
That I find very comfortable
You know what I mean?
Yeah
I won't wear those
I'll make sure they're like my nice sturdy boxer briefs
You wear your sturdy boxer briefs at your friend's house
Yeah
But in your own bed you wear your skimpy little
tiny whitties
Yeah, they're not tidy witties, but they are briefs.
But they're tight briefs.
Yeah.
Their boxer briefs.
They'd be very inappropriate to show to like a guest that I don't know.
I see.
I see.
Okay, good.
I'm so glad we got that like cleared out because today we're going to talk about each other's kitchens.
Did you know that?
I did know that.
I did know that mostly because last night I took pictures of almost every angle of my kitchen.
Nicole and I are going to debate who has the better kitchen set up.
Is that what we're debating?
We're kind of judging and roasting each other, right?
I think we're just judging each other's kitchen setups because, you know, me and you, we cook not professionally, but for the eyes of America and the world.
Yeah.
And we have a pretty well-organized kitchen in the mythical kitchen.
And I think it's only fair that people get a little bit, you know, how do you call it?
What's that thing you called?
Parassocial.
Let's get a little parisocial with it and show them what's hanging out in our fridge.
I think we should do it.
Let me see your fridge.
So we're going fridge for fridge right now.
Yeah, this is my fridge.
I am looking at your fridge right now.
You know what I love seeing in a fridge?
What?
Multiple Tupperware's with leftover thingy things in them?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you want me to explain?
Do you want me to explain my Tupperware?
Explain what's in the Tupperware?
You know what, actually, I'm going to explain from the top all the way down.
So I have a milk and coffee section.
I have my organic valley milk.
That's David's milk.
And then I have two milks.
I have a lactate protein milk and a milked almond milk.
I believe the brand is called Emhurst Farms.
I love Elmhurst Farm's milk.
Me too.
Their nut milks are incredible.
They have a hazelnut milk.
Oh, yeah, it's good.
You know what, their hazelnut and walnut milk gets a little bitter for me.
I know, but I like it.
You like the bitterness.
That's how you know there's a lot of nuts.
That's right.
You know.
Because the thing, nuts are bitter.
They are.
You know?
Yeah.
Fair.
And then I have a cold brew from La Colom.
And then we have my little fermenty shelf, which has Castle Vitrono Olives and some, what is it
called?
It's sourcrow.
Is that pickled ginger left over from a sushi bar?
No.
it's actually pickled horsy
leftover from a pinnini place.
Panini kebub?
No.
I'll tremazino.
And then I have Vital Farm eggs.
I have a baggie of white onions
and avocado next to each other.
Wait, you keep the avocado
and the onion in the same bag?
My girl.
What else would I do?
I love that.
People judge me when I just store
the same leftovers in the same bag.
Yeah, you have to do that way.
They're like the avocado's going to smell like onion.
I'm like great.
I've made a new product.
Exactly.
I'm down.
You know, I've made a sort of vapor infusion.
And the chances are I'm going to use both of those to make a salad or a guacamole or a spread.
So why not?
A little bit of sour cream.
I don't normally have sour cream in my fridge, but I did because I made a lime crema for some reason.
Some having artichot carts, I have at least four different Faye Greek yogurt at any given moment.
I love Fahe-A-Greek yogurt.
I always go for 2 to 5% in terms of fat.
I got some barrel-aged miso, some lactate freaking cottage cheese.
A White Claw, a medello, some garlic confi that's in that Tupperware, some Shabbat leftovers in that Ralph's bag.
Bobby's Pickles, obviously, lots of, did I talk about my confit garlic?
Yeah.
Oh, he did?
Okay.
That's homemade confit garlic?
Homemade confi garlic.
Fun.
And then two Tupperware's of beef that I made, some good old beef.
Wow.
Yeah.
Any other questions?
No, that's about it.
I don't think this is.
My fridge.
What's up?
My fridge.
Uh-huh.
I'm going to come look at your fridge.
Okay.
My fridge, this was all taken after I had gotten home from...
Oh, it's similar to mine.
It is similar, though, right?
Do you have the same fridge?
This is, my fridge is normally way more filled with things, but I, this was taken on a Sunday night,
and I had just gotten back from, like, a five-day wedding extravaganza.
Sure.
And so this is in short spice.
So I just bought stuff to make, like, two days for the dinners.
Mm-hmm.
But if you look at the top, miscellaneous cheese drawer.
I call that the Julia drawer.
Oh, nice.
I have a cheese drawer, too.
We got the goat cheese up there, several tiny things of like Parmesan rinds that I'm like, Julia, please just finish these and she doesn't.
We have some feta cheese up there.
Duke's mayonnaise.
I would normally buy fayet, but my grocery store just runs out of fay all the time.
And then I, like, begrudgingly get Chobani, which is not nearly as good as fayet.
I agree.
Gigi paste, ginger garlic, because I was cooking a bunch of Indian food.
Bottled lemon juice, nice to have on hand.
Air does salsa verde, greatest in the game.
The mysterious glass jar back there might be a clue.
Cool. Look at that glass jar back there up top.
And then look at that mason jar on the second shelf.
I know it's onions.
What's in the glass jar?
Up there, beet juice.
Beat juice, baby.
Only need six drops of it.
Got to buy 32 ounces.
Got beet juice in my fridge for about six months.
Right.
Sometimes I'll make myself lemonade at night.
And you put some beet juice in your lemonade?
To make a pink lemonade.
Oh my gosh.
You are nuts.
That's such a good idea.
Kind of nice.
Two things of Fair Life milk.
I normally like Fair Life.
I've switched over to lacquate protein
because it's all my grocery store has right now.
Understood.
We have such similar fridges.
This is insane.
Down to the brown Ralph's bag, Josh?
Yeah, brown Ralph's bag.
Mine's filled with raw meat.
Mine's filled with Shabbat leftovers.
Oh, okay.
The Vidal Farms eggs.
Yeah.
Why are we so similar?
You know, I think we have good taste.
You know, various leftovers at the bottom.
That's where you keep the leftovers.
Next to the lettuce.
Next to the lettuce.
John.
That's a nice little like yogurt, roast of red pepper,
sauce I made, a little bit of like
Griego Caesar dressing, and then
that's some batata hara.
See, you have Persian food in your fridge.
I have Lebanese food. Josh, I
swear on my life. Just two Middle Eastern girlies
out here, Channel lives.
Dude, we need to... Cucumbers.
We have the same... Wait, hold on, you're not understanding.
We have the same refrigerator.
I thought the picture... Wait, do we really?
Yes, don't you get it? I thought the picture of your
fridge was a picture of my fridge.
Josh, we have the same refrigerator.
Look, look at this part. It's...
It's almost the same.
Yeah, I never know what to put there.
Do you know what I put on the side?
What do you put on the side?
I literally put, there's a butter section with all my different butters, and then there's anchovies and sunride tomatoes.
And then at the bottom is pickled ginger, literally bottled barefoot wine, kimchi, and medications.
Yeah, I got a bottle, I got a random bottle of wine that's a couple months old, used for cooking.
I have some of Julia's medication there.
I have pickled ginger.
I have mango pickle as well.
I also have miso.
Do you have horseradish?
I don't have horseradish.
You should get some.
I'll come over, get some horseradish.
Dude, it's actually...
Yeah, one, two, three, four.
I got like six hot sauces.
Meggy, have you seen the side-by-side comparison of our fridges?
No, but you're like Twinsies.
We are Twinsies.
Josh, we should...
That's where my yeast is.
Dude, I didn't even...
I was looking for the yeast.
That's where your yeast is.
I was looking for my yeast.
Nice.
This is so insane to me.
Okay, well, let's go to...
Do you have a drinks area?
Do you have a drinks area in your fridge?
Yeah, it's like a separate.
one. Wait, you have the one that has the four compartments? I have, I have this one that has
like four different like cute little holders. See, we don't have that. I don't have that. I have a
separate thing in my fridge that I don't know if I took a picture of. I literally, so mine's
really cute. So I like to do like a Sprite option and then a bubbly version that's like
bubbly the brand of Sparkling Ladder. That's the same. It's like if you want Sprite, you can
have Sprite or you can have bubbly lime. I like that. Do you think it's really good? I think what
we need to do is I think me, you
Julian and David
need to move in together.
I think I've been saying that for song.
We can help take care of the baby.
While you and David go on date nights.
And then I can teach your cat to have doctors.
And then when you come back from date nights,
we can, you know, leave.
You can go to date nights.
You can like, yeah.
And then you can go to date.
I swear, we're so, I mean,
I feel like our setups are so similar just based off of our fridges.
I feel like it makes sense at this point.
Yeah, you have like the random like half smashed
tube of tomato paste that isn't like rolled up
properly
Would that piss you off?
No, no, because I do the same.
You do?
Yeah, we have, Nicole, we have,
I don't even know if I included a picture in my freezer.
We both have the same Trader Joe's
Blood Orange Mochi in our freezer.
Josh.
We both have true fru, banana.
Oh my God.
Wait, what's this random thing of frozen noodles?
It's Udao noodles.
It's Udong, okay.
I have toq poikin.
I have tokokki noodles.
Not noodles, but you know, a little rice cakes.
Josh, it's so crazy.
I also have some kosher
burghese sausage
and I also have
those little Trader Joe's hash browns.
It's incredible.
Do you have Nato?
Is that Nato?
I have Nato.
I eat Nato all the time.
It's so good for you.
You eat Nato all the time?
You're eating Nato casually?
I eat Nato like once a month.
It's like good for you.
Yeah, no, it certainly is.
I didn't know that.
David hates it when I make Nato at home.
It's not my favorite food in the world.
He goes, what's that smell?
And I go, it's the soybeans you like.
He goes, oh, man.
I'm going to go outside.
And then I have tons of frozen alcohol.
You know what?
I don't keep alcohol in the freezer ever.
We never know when we're having guests just come over, so we always have.
But why are you drinking frozen alcohol?
It tastes better.
I think it tastes worse.
Frozen alcohol tastes.
If you go to, if you go to, it tastes colder, it tastes less.
If you're, like, ripping, like, crappy shots of, you know, vodka that you bought on the bottom shelf for $9.
trying to get drunk at a party,
freeze it 100%.
Okay.
But if you, like, have a nice bottle of mescal.
There's literally nice bottles of alcohol in my freezer.
That's crazy.
You're like, that's not a thing you're advised to do.
Like, if you go to, like, a tequila mescal tasting.
There are always no temp?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a wild thing to me that you're doing this with, like,
a nice bottle of Madre Mescal.
Can I tell you what it is?
It's David's home preference.
Like, David's dad loves a syrupy vodka.
and I think it's just one of those adaptations of, like, growing up in a house with, like, oh, if it's syrupy, that means it's properly chilled, which might not be the truth, but it is his, it is his family's truth.
I think you tend to drink, I think you do tend to drink vodka ice cold, though. I think vodka might be.
Yeah.
That's interesting. I don't know. Anybody that knows more than us about the proper temperature to store and serve alcohol, let me know.
I literally have mezcal, really high quality tequila.
and some sort of like creme liqueur in there
just freezing temperatures at all times
Oh dude I didn't take a picture of my bar
I should have
You should have it's okay
I didn't take you talk to them
I'll see if I can find one on my phone
So I think I'd be nice if I told you guys
About like my burner setup
I have a gas stove
Which was very important
Whenever I was looking at a place to move to
I have four burners
And then I don't have an above range
I have the bottom range where it sucks it in
sucks the air out from the bottom
which sometimes screws around with my flame a little bit.
So sometimes I need to cook first and then turn on my range,
which can kind of like make my house a little bit steamy, smelly,
but it's okay.
Like after a while I just open all the windows.
And then sometimes when I make burgers, my fire alarm goes off
and then I have to take a shirt and violently like, you know, hit it a bunch of times
and like flap it around.
So the like smoke gets away from it.
But most of my neighbors don't like mine.
too much.
Do you have...
I'm trying to find a picture of it and I can't.
Do you have gas burners at home?
No, I have a crappy electric top lane.
You do?
How do you survive?
Any way that I can.
Do you use a camp stove oven at home ever?
No, I just don't ever cook with...
Don't ever cook with fire.
It's a huge bummer for me.
But you don't even cook with fire here.
I know.
I almost never cook with fire anymore and it sucks.
Josh, what the hell?
There has to be a picture of my bar here.
Do you use your broiler?
Do you use your broiler?
All the time.
All the time.
I use my broiler constantly
and I really love it.
I didn't put a picture
of my home bar in here.
Okay.
But I think that's the crown jewel
of like my whole home.
Because I think I have like
32 bottles of liquor on it.
Is it in your kitchen?
It's right.
It's adjacent to it.
So the home bar,
it's like,
I've kind of taken
half the living room
and turned it into kitchen
and bar.
Okay.
And I think that's sort of
how we want to live.
That's fair.
So if we're running through,
looking at your pantry,
Got some canned goods
Some nice crushed tomatoes
Can I tell you something about my pantry?
My mom came over like two weeks ago
And was at my house for about seven hours
And me and her literally gutted my whole and all of my pantries
And we cleaned from head to toe
And scrubbed every single side of my walls
Because it got really messy after a while
Because I was just throwing stuff in there
Literally redid the bottoms of it
Put like those like anti-stick covers
and then we organize everything.
Can you tell?
It wasn't freshly organized.
No, it looks nice.
It looks nice, no?
It looks nice, but not like, you know, there's like the kind of like rich suburban, you know, mom.
They got all the dividers and all that.
We don't do dividers.
No, you don't got that.
Some whole walnuts.
I love that.
But I do have a bunch of oils.
Now, my cooking oils are ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil and
sesame oil, which is very important to me.
And then I have right next to it is all my vinegars.
I have a large collection.
of vinegars. I have red wine vinegar. I have rice wine. I have two different kinds of
balsamic. I just think it's good to have a pantry. You have the same bottle of dark soy
sauce that I can see, even though the label's not turned out. I see it in there. How can
you tell? Is it the yellow on top? No, it's the purple and the yellow. Oh, the purple and the
yellow. And it's the staining around the cap in yellow. That is what that is, right? The same obscure
bottle of Chinese dark soy? Yep. Yep. That's the one. How good of a product is that? I use it
in everything. I use it in my ground beef that you saw in my fridge. It's almost like adding
like browning, like caramel color.
It's literally like out in kitchen bouquet.
Dude, it's great.
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So that back
area is like all of my like
Asian sauces. So I have
two different kinds of show you.
I have pomegranate molasses.
A bunch of different...
I have chunking vinegar, black vinegar.
I have...
What is that?
I have Chinese cooking wine.
Basically, I'm really well organized right now, which never happens.
And then you get to the drunk.
Down there is where all my junk is.
Yeah, random cereals.
Is that pineapple fanta?
Hell yeah.
Deep cut, dude.
Yeah, it's...
Spicy salted egg, salmon skin.
That's nuts.
Oh, have you ever had that before?
No, is it good?
It's the best snack.
Ever.
If you're ever craving chips and you're trying to, like, watch your carbon take.
The salmon skin, the salted, spicy egg yolk salmon skin is the best snack ever.
I think a pack might be like $12.13, though, for that small amount.
But it is so damn delicious.
And it's filled with omega-3s, which is really good for your skin and hair.
And then David just got back from Japan, so he got me a bunch of red bean pancakes.
That's where those purple boxes are.
Let's see how closely mine.
This is just what this episode has become, is like how closely.
is my stuff
going to be to yours.
Oh, I didn't take a picture
of my spice drawer!
That's okay.
That's crazy.
So if you look at my dry goods pantry,
you have, you know,
your baking powder,
got some panko breadcrunch,
corn starch,
big thing of Splenda,
that's all it's fun.
This is really unorganized
right now, don't judge me.
I would never judge you.
There's other things to judge you about.
We got brown sugar.
Nothing really interesting in here.
Remember the granola
that we got a cookbook fest?
No.
It was like a year ago?
No.
Those bags of granola?
I didn't get a bag of granola.
I got a bag of granola from it.
What do you mean?
I don't need a lot of granola.
Whole wheat spaghetti, really high-quality spagatoni from monograno.
I don't know what that is.
Really good brand.
Nothing interesting there.
If we go down, oh, potatoes, an apple, and a phone charger.
Sitting in a bowl.
Three food groups.
A bunch of chilies and spices.
My misorganized spice drawer with katsabushi.
You don't close your packages?
Yeah, they're dry, dude.
What do you mean?
They're dried chilies.
They're just drying more.
Freaking put a piece of tape on it.
Why?
Close it.
It's a dried chili.
That's how you get bugs.
You want bugs?
No bugs are eating the chilies.
There's cat shit everywhere in my home.
I'm eating my cats' hairs every night.
When the sun streams through my kitchen window at 5.18 p.m.
It illuminates every single cat hair.
floating there's thousands
you're worried about my chilies being open
he just sits in my cast irons because they're warm in the sun
what he sits in my cast irons the cat you have no control
of your pet no I don't he's like a team that deserves to be on Dr. Phil
as he goes you need to show some respect and then the
crowd goes my cats have so much respect they do it behind my
back they do all that stuff not in front of my face
because they don't have the audacity I love
I love my cats, by the way. I love. Having an animal softened, dude, don't you think?
So if you look at mine, this is...
What the hell? Why do you ignore me?
We're not. We're talking about kitchens.
I have ghee in my pantry, and you have ghee in your pantry, but you...
Do you see the same... We have ghee. Do you see the same bottle of dark soy?
And the same bottle of red wine vinegar.
Same bottle of red wine vinegar?
Oh my... Do you have Fly-By-Jing chili oil?
Um, no.
Do you have an old box of Yehuda Matsu?
Yeah, I threw it away.
For Passover that's three years old.
I threw it away.
That your mother-in-law came over and said, I have an old box of matzah, it's open.
And instead of going...
Throw it away.
No.
Susan, throw it away.
We put it, we just keep it.
And Julia will go, can I donate this?
Donate!
Donate!
Donate!
Donate an open box of Masta?
That's crazy.
You can expire for three years?
That's crazy.
What am I going to do it?
So I guess I'll just grind it into Panko.
Throw it in the garbage.
What are you doing?
I call it Janko.
Hey, why don't you just throw it in the?
the damn trash.
I can't.
Why?
She finds that she gets mad.
No, throw it in the dumpster downstairs, freak.
Oh, dude, I have a can of tuna?
Hell yeah.
This is the best episode we've ever done.
I'm not very organized.
Big thing of diamond crystal kosher salt.
Good.
Toasted garlic, roasted sesame.
You have three kinds of cereal?
Cochukado.
One of these cereals are bobby me, but we have honeynut gerios.
We have rice Krispies.
What is the reason?
What is the reason?
Sometimes Julia likes to eat a bowl of cereal.
And then, no, this is the,
best. So we have our, if you look
below. So much she's candy bags.
So the seize candy bags are to bribe
Susan. Susan,
I know you're listening to this. No, she's
not. Check this out. Every time Julia
comes over to your home and goes,
Mom, I went to seize candy
and I thought of you and I bought you
the, what is it, like the marshmallow
caramel? Scotch mullos?
Scotch mullos. That's my favorite.
And Susan, we get along. You really love each other.
Every time Julia says that, what she actually did is she
bought the scotch mullos in bulk and she
keeps that in our pantry and then when she needs to ask you to watch the cat she just picks
one up out of our pantry so that's what that is are you for real what are you is that a real
thing your wife does she does trickery on her own mother i don't think it's quite trickery
but it's but it does feel weird that we aren't such trickery we aren't just giving susan all the
scottomalos that we have you tell julia that is such bad energy but like would it be
Better if Julia, because here's the thing, the mall where the Seas Candy is in Susan's apartment, they're not that far from each other.
I'm, why?
Does Julia need to go back to Seas Candy to buy a pre-wrapped malle, or Scotch Mallow?
No.
Every time?
No, but why, Mom, I just, why doesn't she just get her a box and just, and then just ask her randomly?
Well, then what would she bring her the next time?
You don't need to bring her stuff all the time.
We do.
No, you don't.
It's an offering.
No, maybe you can just, maybe you can just ask.
Maybe she could just ask her mom.
Sometimes we get her bananas.
Josh, stop it.
Maybe she could just ask her mom.
Maybe she doesn't have to like, you know.
Susan, I'll start bringing you flowers more often.
No, no, you don't need to bribe.
Listen, let me tell you.
I am so tired of people assuming you need to bribe people to do nice things for you.
Just ask.
And then, you know, when they ask you, you do the nice thing.
Why do you have to constantly give them little gifts?
No, it's called having respect for each other.
Josh, can you...
No, but it's also, it's showing her that you care by saying,
hey, I know you like this little treat.
That's her mom!
She doesn't want, she doesn't want to have the treats around all the time.
I wouldn't want, I love, I don't know, a chaco taco taco, right?
I don't want to keep a box of chaco tacos tacos in my apartment.
Okay.
You know, I've eaten chocolate tacos all the time.
But if you showed up to my apartment and he said, Josh, I got you a chaco taco taco.
And then Josh go pick up my laundry.
Well, no, we don't, it's not like a one-to-one.
You made it sound like it's a one-to-one.
Like a week later, if it's like, hey, Susan, but also she would
do this just because she loves us.
Exactly.
Yeah, but then, you know, you sort of,
you remember the mallow,
the scotch molo.
I keep wondering told him Malamar.
This is ridiculous.
I don't think it is.
It's like, it's like saying, okay, I'll let you,
like, invite five of your friends to my birthday party,
but I'm going to invite five of my friends to your birthday party.
That's almost exactly how it works.
Why don't you just...
That's almost exactly how it works.
I don't think that should be the case.
I think you should just do nice things.
If you have the ability to be kind and you have the time to do things,
you don't need to scotchamolo it.
But that's how you naturally integrate friend groups, right?
No.
Happens all the time.
I hate you.
What were you Googling?
I was Googling the difference in a Malamar and the Scotch Molo.
What do you want to look at?
What do you want to compare now?
Do you want to move in together us for yes or no?
I think we should.
I think we should.
It would save money on rent.
We already spend so much time together.
So here's the interesting thing when...
What's Cocofino?
David Cocofino.
That is like I think of...
Venezuelan brand of cookies that I
used for
a... Oh, I made a plantain
pudding.
Yum. Because for 4th of July
once I cooked for a big
like barbecue and I did
everything to celebrate the birth of
America. I just didn't specify which America so I
cooked an entire South American feast
but all based off of, so I did like
Chorri Pan burgers.
Yum.
You know, did like a little skirt
like Jimmy Churi. Okay.
Made a big thing of like Guyanese
maconri pie. Yum.
And then I did a, like, roasted plantin pudding.
Delish.
So, like, a banana pudding, but with, like, really deeply, darkly caramelized plantins.
Delish.
It was good, but the thing is, like, plantins, when they get cold, they're kind of
starchy, so they kind of, like, seize up almost like a cold potato.
Sure.
In a way.
So, it could have been better.
It's still pretty good.
Still enjoyed it.
I see what you're saying.
And I use the cocoa fino cookies instead of...
Smart.
Yeah, yeah.
So, can we look at one thing?
Let's talk about, like, as actual cooks, how we like to set up our kitchen.
Uh-huh.
When you share a space with somebody, like a roommate.
Yeah.
Or a husband.
Husband.
You don't have full control of what goes in.
I have 95% control of the kitchen.
Well, and I think it's because of antiquated gender roles.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yes.
And so I would love to be the woman in this relationship entirely.
What do you mean?
I would just love to be.
And when I say not to essentialize womanhood, but like I would love to have that 95% control because I do 95% of the cooking.
I do 90% of.
Julie, I think, still feels a certain amount of pressure and control over the pantry and cooking.
You know one of the two things David uses the most in the kitchen?
The coffee maker and the toaster oven.
Incredible.
And I let him do it, and he's so good at both of those things.
People don't think that I'm like, I don't come off as a very organized person, right?
I don't really, I, damn it.
No, I think it's organized but to your standards.
Does that make sense?
Like, you know where everything is.
If I were to tell you, hey, can you find that piece of paper that the IRS sent like three weeks ago?
Like, you would know where the paper is.
Definitely not that specific example
But if I ask you like
Hey did you get that check from so-and-so?
Yeah, yeah
Like you would know where the paper is
So if we look at the one...
No? No, no, you're correct.
If we look at the one area
I didn't know cleaning or prep
of this space whatsoever
This is my weightlifting supplement
And actual cooking prep area
Where I do 80% of my prep.
It looks beautiful. It's smaller than I thought it would be.
It's all I need.
If you're in a restaurant, you have your prep station,
you have your area.
It's big enough to roll out any pasta
dough, any dough that I need.
Sure.
I have all my appliances there.
SotoStream, coffee maker, Vitamix, food processor, Ninja Bullet, stand mixer.
I have all of my utensils that are hanging from racks.
I have my stainless steel pans.
I have my strainers.
I have my non-sticks.
I have my sauce pots.
I have my Dutch oven.
The only thing, these two, if you ever see, like, a box within, like a cabinet, that's not mine.
That's Julius.
I see.
So she's a box girl.
I don't do that.
I just leave it open.
If you look what's in the boxes.
Rolling pins.
No, it's like random papers and stuff.
Oh, so she has random.
So she's the random paper.
Uh-huh.
But this, this is mine.
This is my area that is my, just got called Josh's special boy chef area.
I'll say this.
It is gorgeously organized.
Mine is not like that.
I got, I have all of my, um, my kitchen.
What are these things called?
My kitchen?
No, no, no, go down.
No, go up.
No, go down.
No, go back to that picture.
Go back to Josh's special corner.
I'm going.
Like, what are these called?
Tongs?
No, what are those called?
Um, which ones?
Josh, what are these called?
What do you point?
Huh?
Equipments?
Yeah, so my appliance, Josh, I'm stupid and pregnant.
My brain shrunk already.
The appliances, my kitchen appliances are all hidden.
Call it stagnant.
Huh?
Huh?
Hmm?
Why your appliance is hidden
Because I don't like them in my area
I like to have them hidden
It makes my kitchen look cleaner
And more organized when they're up there
I have my Vitamix
I have my KitchenAid
All that stuff is hiding
On a top cabinet where no one can see it
But yours is much nicer than mine
I think your kitchen is gorgeous
I think your kitchen is gorgeous
And it actually is really
Interesting how similar
Both of our like fridges and pantries
Really are
I think the things that we use
aren't you're really similar.
Do you think there's anything
from the way,
because again,
neither of us
are particularly organized.
You see a lot of them
influencers that got like,
we for a while
bought the blank spice containers
that like,
oh, we can buy spices wholesale
and then keep all these
organized and label these.
Not wholesale,
but you know what I mean?
Like, you don't have to buy
a new jar every time you get a spice.
Correct.
So we got our own,
we labeled them,
and that lasted like six weeks.
You know what I mean?
And then suddenly it was like,
well,
I really only wanted to buy
Berberet spice once
But now we've used up a label on that thing
And I can't get it off with the gougon
So that's fine
Yeah
And then you know you just kind of like forget
And then you're in hurry for dinner
And you're like I'm just gonna buy the black pepper again
And the thing
So we're not those type of people
No
But I think there are certain things in our kitchens
That makes sense that other people
Could take certain cues from
Sure
Like uh...
Buy a lot of fats
Yeah a lot of vinegars
A lot of fats
Buy a lot of vinegars
For forever
Yeah
I know the vinegar is like six
bucks a bottle and like not everyone would just want to blow six bucks in a bottle but if you're
somebody that is already saying buying pre-made salad dressing I haven't bought I haven't bought a salad
dressing in years I just I only have ranch ranch is my only pre-made salad dressing yeah I mean
I just if I'm dressing a salad just olive oil vinegar lemon and then if I want to make a fun
dressing you have all the bones of it if you know how to do it and it literally takes you know
30 seconds to a minute to do exactly you know dark soy buy it be like us
Buy it.
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William H. Macy and Felicity H. Huffman's celebrity couple name is Willicity F. Muffman.
All right, Nicole, we've heard what you and I have to say. Now it's time to find out whether
wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe. Well, it's time for a little segment we call
Opinions are like casserole. Muffman.
Let's get to that first opinion.
Only if it's Willicity F. Muffman related.
Josh, is having a moment right now.
Forgive me chefs for I have sinned.
I put guacamole on a cheese steak.
Hey.
And it was really good.
Yeah, that sounds good.
You have to try it sometimes.
Yeah, that sounds good.
I do not repent for you.
No Hail Mary's.
What are the other things Catholics do?
What are the prayers Catholics do?
I don't think I should say the other things Catholics do.
It was all over the news for a while.
The prayers. No, Hail Mary.
They won an Oscar for the movie.
Doubt?
Nope.
Not that one.
Talking about doubt.
I'm talking about doubt.
You're talking about doubt.
What are you talking about that?
There's prayers in Catholicism that you do to absolve you of your sins.
A room full of three Jews.
None of us know other than me.
What a Hail Mary is apparently.
rosary rosaries are a catholic thing
frankincense and mur maybe
I was supposed to
Oh sacrament sacrament sacrament sacrament
A little chip
Eat a little chip
That's not sacrament no that's called something else
What are you talking about?
It's what's the trot? Communion Wayframing
Communion
Take communion and four hellberries
Transubstantiation
I've always wanted to eat one of those
communion reefers, but I'm scared I'll turn it to a Catholic if I do.
I'll tell you what, once. I accidentally, I was a little lit and I did communion accidentally.
Oh, no, you were tricked. I wasn't tricked. They tricked you. I had to pee during a Catholic
wedding. It was very long. They didn't trick him. And then I walked back inside. I was a little
lit. It was a good friend's wedding. And then I just see people lined up to eat the body of Christ.
And I thought everyone was supposed to do it because I just saw people lined up and was like,
surely everyone's sitting down, I already took communion.
And so I get up in the line, and then I see some people are, like, crossing their arms,
and they're not eating your cracker.
And I was like, that must be if you're not hungry.
You just cross your arms.
They don't give you a cracker.
And so I walk up there, and I just opened my mouth.
And the priest is putting it directly in people's mouth.
So I walk up to the priest and open my mouth.
And he just goes, are you Catholic?
And I go, huh?
And then he puts a cracker in my mouth.
And it turns out if you weren't Catholic, but still,
just wanted to get blessed by the priest
you put your arms over each other
and he could smell the fact that I wasn't Catholic
Yeah he could tell
I could be Catholic
No but he could tell
I guess yeah
I just smelled like Jew I don't know
The point is
Guacamole on a cheese steak sounds really nice
Sounds good
It's basically a torta at that point
And I
Josh loves tortes
Is that your favorite sandwich?
I don't know why
No it's uh it's
The, you like torta-ahogadas.
Tortas, hogadas, yeah.
That bien.
Pombasos are also nice.
What I was going to say is...
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah?
I don't think we should...
Maggie, do you know what that means?
No.
Talks?
It's actually, like, very inclusive, I think.
I don't know.
Is it racist?
Is it...
I don't think it's fat phobic.
I think it's fat philic.
You know, I think beauty at every size.
And I love guacamole in a sandwich.
Oh, my God.
Sorry, continue, continue.
Dext opinion?
Hey, Josh and Nicole.
My name is Zach from Minnesota.
And my opinion is deviled eggs have no business being sweet.
Some people have used cherry juice or sweet relish in them.
and I think they are Neanderthals.
Those things deserve to be nice and salty.
Have a great day, and I triple dog dare you, Josh, to get frosted tips.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, I think I'd look really good.
All I ever wanted.
Yeah.
Dude, Mark McGrath.
Come on.
I saw him live recently.
David loves that band.
What's it called?
Sugar Red.
Sugar.
Sugar Ray.
Switch foot.
No, Mark McGrath alive, incredible.
He's so handsome.
He's so handsome.
He's always been handsome.
And he's out there and he has like a sense of humor about Sugar Ray.
Good.
You know, and he's just like, seems so wonderful.
And he even, like, made a joke about his frosted tips on stage and it was like,
you just look like you're living your best life.
The thing is, you think you'd look like Mark McGrathwood in reality.
You look like Shifty Shell Shoe.
R.P. Shifty Shell Shoe.
R&P, we love you, Shifty.
R&P, Shetty, Shell Shock.
Are you putting cherry juice in a deviled egg?
I've never heard this.
People will cure them with beet juice, they'll dye them.
That's fun.
That's how you can use the rest of your beet juice in your damn fridge.
Do you know how much beet juice that uses?
That uses like two tablespoons.
Okay, what do you mean?
It's a drop in the ocean.
Get it out of here.
Golly, man.
Too much beet juice from a damn fridge.
I should just bought beats and just like use them.
Yeah, you should have.
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, gosh.
I even used a lot of bee juice and cocktail
Hey, I'm having so much
This is fun
You know, this is fun
You know, despite everything
You can I tell you
I laughed so hard
That my baby went like this
Oh my God
Oh no, I'm gonna kill your baby
From being so hard
No, it's good
What do you mean?
I was laughing so hard
She literally went like
Your baby did the wave
And I had to touch her
To make sure I was like you good
So funny
Ew, sweet devil dead
Gross get out of here
I don't even like, people have been putting candied bacon on devil eggs.
Don't do that either.
Leave my bacon uncanned.
Stick to a little paprika garnish or a damn parsley sprig.
Don't get too fancy.
Yeah.
Don't get too fancy.
Capers.
Sweet relish, I think, plays.
I like sweet relish.
I like sweet.
But that's only if it's salty and musterty after that.
I agree.
I think you're correct.
Okay.
I just got distracted by all the Mark McGrathawk.
Hey, Josh and just Josh, because I'm hoping you guys choose to play this when
Nicole's on an eternity leave.
Nope, it's now or never, baby.
My topic is baby food.
I think we need to invent new baby foods.
I'm thinking like chicken and waffle baby food, like have one of it.
And also, some baby food is weird, and I want to see it be made into an adult dish,
like some banana and avocado stuff.
So, yeah, I hope you like the topic, and I hope you feed Nicole whatever you come up with.
I love that
Why would I eat the baby food?
In his perfect world
What happened is you were on maternity leave
I listened to that
Got inspired to make
Like banana avocado
Puray baby food
Cupcakes
You know with like an avocado
And it was frosting
And then showed up to you
And gave you that
Or I made like a
I don't know
State like a Texas smoked
Kielbasa and cornbread baby food
You know
We're like a, or like a, or like a, since like a skyline chili baby food and fed it to your baby.
Interesting.
You know?
I don't know.
How did I end up at kielbasa and cornbread?
I don't know.
Since I'm not supposed to be here, I'm not going to answer.
I don't know.
I don't know what the baby food industry needs to disrupt.
So I'm also going.
I love where your headset.
Big space, a lot of money there.
I think Jessica Alba made a lot of money off of it.
Is that true?
Honest company?
Is that her?
Do they make food?
I don't know if they make food.
Jessica Bealba?
Jessica Alba?
Jessica Alba.
Jessica Alba.
Dark Angel.
Yeah.
Honey.
Honey.
Idol hands.
I hope that me and you both are like honey.
Idol hands.
Because that was a really, she was really beautiful and honey.
Okay, now do Jessica Beal.
Seventh Heaven.
I never really watched a lot of Jessica Beal growing up.
Blade Trinity?
Never saw it.
Oh my God, such a good movie.
Who was the one girl that was like Electra?
Jennifer Garner.
I love Jennifer Garner.
I also do.
I hope that answered your question about baby food
Hi
It's S.J from Minnesota
Hi SJ
I'm currently living in my van
My kitchen consists of a single burner
Butane stove
Hell yeah
Like a little pot holder
And that's really all I have to cook with
A couple of really small
pans
And so I
guess my question is, what are some creative meals that I can have with no refrigeration
and only that as a way to cook thing?
Great question.
Let me know what you think might be good, thanks.
Single burner.
So you cannot make multiple meals.
You've got to be a one-stop shop situation.
I'm imagining a lot of beef stroganoffs, a lot of spaghetti bowl and spagg bowls, single bowl.
like one pot meals
Right?
I mean
Rommans
Sounds like a job for slop
I just this is what I mean this is my life
I make one pot meals
Because you know I don't want to clean more things
A casserole just instead of like putting it in a casserole dish
You just finish baking it off in the pot
You know what I think my answer is
Check this how here's what you do
Huh
Get a tube of ginger garlic paste
Uh huh
You get some sort of ground meat
Uh huh
Potato some sort of green vegetable
You put all that in the pot
Ginger garlic
You get one bag of something
That ends in masala
That isn't garum
You get a more like prepared masala
Like something that just says
Like tundori masala
You know something that just says
Like a sandwiched masala
Get some sort of masala
You dump that in there
Deglazes some water
Potatoes thicken that up
And it's just flavorful
And nutrient dense
I made almost that exact thing yesterday
It is by no means
Something I would call
a curry or Indian food at all
but it gets the job
bag of powders taste delicious
ginger garlic paste tastes delicious
and I get to eat a healthy bowl
of wet food that I really enjoy
I would say that
but we have to talk about proportions
and we have to talk about proportions because
they don't have refrigeration
so they have to literally do this
every day in small quantities
not necessarily
Nicole why
have you heard about the perpetual stew so check this out
oh perpetual stew guy
yeah perpetual stew guy I know all about perpetual stew guy
started following him from the jump actually
you can leave that going for dates
okay but this person lives in a van
yeah the van's gonna burn down yeah the van's gonna burn down
you gotta you gotta you gotta go somewhere
and you gotta go to the butcher you gotta go somewhere with a butcher
and you buy like a quarter pound of meat at a time
every day okay
so you can't get I don't want
person to get sick. I don't want to say to get sick.
I don't want to get sick either. Who's telling to get sick?
Well, you're the one that doesn't care about the portions because it's not...
We're going about the portions. What are you doing?
I'm caring about the portions!
You're telling me to get ramen?
I'm caring about the portions.
Why are we fighting? I don't know. It's actually really bad whenever I just like
jump to conclusions and yell at you. It's actually wrong of me to do and I'm so
sorry for yelling at you and getting really like pointed.
So what I'm trying to say is this person
needs to cook small meals in order to make sure that they don't get sick so they finish the meal
and then they make a new one. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, but I'm trying to think what
He looks at me with these dead eyes with these dead eyes. Is this what you call a dead eye stare?
Just completely dead void of emotion, void of any sort of like like anything going on. The lights are off.
No one is whole. I was thinking this is my.
thinking face I go
Do you guys how many teachers
just came up to me in high school and went
Are you okay?
And I go
Yeah why
And like you're just
Had the most blank stare
That like vaguely frightened
Yes
It's this weird vaguely frightened
Like dead about the eye stare
I'm scared all the time
Anything else you want to add?
I mean like
Let's think about like what shelf stable
Corn beef
Okay
You corn beef you get packets of corned beef
you get cans of corn beef
corn beef
corn beef
no
rice
rice
kind of actually
doesn't
keep room
temp like that
corn beef
but it in
tortilla
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