A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Pro Chefs Roast Each Other's Kitchens

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Today, Josh and Nicole have taken pictures of each of their kitchens and the two duke it out to see who has the ultimate setup. Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video version ...of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 on your first three orders. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. My kitchen's the best. No, mine is! Well, my kitchen has more cat hair on it. No, mine does. This is a hot dog is a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Cetchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast to Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show we break down the world's biggest food
Starting point is 00:01:01 debates. I'm your host Josh Cher. And I'm your host, Nicole, and I am. And today, the food world's biggest debate is, um, whose kitchen is gross or mine or yours. I have two cats. You have one. I only have one cat, but he flings his poo so far in a radius outside.
Starting point is 00:01:15 What? This has become a perennial debate. This is more about cats and kitchen. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm ready. Um, Julia doesn't like it when there's like outside clothes in the bed. Don't wear outside clothes in your bed. You're taking all the the dirt from in there. You know, don't, uh, Don't walk your shoes into the living room because there's dirt on him.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We have a cat that poops in a box, stomps around in his own poo, flings half of that in a radius 10 feet outside of his litter box, and then just traipses around the house and, like, sleeps in our bed after he steps in poo. And I understand the argument that cats are cleaner. They're like self-cleaning animals. They have antimicrobial tongues, whatever. He's stepping in poo, which is the worst thing. Yeah. Pooh and like diseased blood are the two things that you worry about getting. in your bed.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We have an animal that lives in his own poo cuddling up to us. I should be allowed to wear shoes in the bedroom. I mean, but like grossness doesn't beget
Starting point is 00:02:10 other grossness. In a way, I believe it does. I don't think, I don't, because you love, there's poo in the bed. My jeans are cleaning the bed.
Starting point is 00:02:19 No, no, you are allowed, you are allowed a few gross things just to keep it going, you know, to keep you going. But when that gross thing is animal poo?
Starting point is 00:02:26 You sell, it sounds like you made your poo bed, Now you have to lie in it. I hate you so much of Pippin's hair. I literally don't let my cats into my bedroom. Did you know that? My cats aren't allowed in my bedroom. They don't sleep in the bed with us.
Starting point is 00:02:39 You should either be all gross or all clean. That's how you live in squalor. Or you live in a completely sterile, clean environment. I hate sterile environments. I just want to wear my shoes in bed. Ew. Why? Why do we're doing today?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Are you trying to run away? Are you trying to run away or sleep? Sometimes I have to go take out the trash, but I want to say. but I want to sit down from it. I don't want to take off my shoes, can then relays them, but they're back on, yeah. Do you wear,
Starting point is 00:03:04 do you have, like, pajamas? No. Do you have, like, designated pajal clothes? Underward, that's it. I sleep, I sleep, I sleep in my dirty underwear from the day. I wake up in them. I wear them to the gym.
Starting point is 00:03:13 No! They're already dirty. And they're not dirty. I don't have body odors, they don't smell very bad. And I have bidet, so I don't, no, skid marks.
Starting point is 00:03:21 No, go right from that. You don't wear nighttime undies? No, how much laundry might do? I'm already have a full outfit from the gym here we shoot multiple things i have multiple shirts it'd be bad for the environment if i wore clean underwear to bed thank you for coming to my ted talk sorry i was just curious because like some people don't do you know some people don't have nighttime clothes or like sleepy clothes i am that some
Starting point is 00:03:42 people do you ever like do you ever like wear a shirt to bed ever no never never never like never in if i sleep over at a friend's house and i'm sleeping in their living room i sleep just in my underwear I do Someone could walk in and that's fine It's gonna be me and my underwear Having kicked off the single sheet on the couch That they gave me Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:03 I won't wear my Because I have like three pairs of like skimpy underwear That I find very comfortable You know what I mean? Yeah I won't wear those I'll make sure they're like my nice sturdy boxer briefs You wear your sturdy boxer briefs at your friend's house
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah But in your own bed you wear your skimpy little tiny whitties Yeah, they're not tidy witties, but they are briefs. But they're tight briefs. Yeah. Their boxer briefs. They'd be very inappropriate to show to like a guest that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I see. I see. Okay, good. I'm so glad we got that like cleared out because today we're going to talk about each other's kitchens. Did you know that? I did know that. I did know that mostly because last night I took pictures of almost every angle of my kitchen. Nicole and I are going to debate who has the better kitchen set up.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Is that what we're debating? We're kind of judging and roasting each other, right? I think we're just judging each other's kitchen setups because, you know, me and you, we cook not professionally, but for the eyes of America and the world. Yeah. And we have a pretty well-organized kitchen in the mythical kitchen. And I think it's only fair that people get a little bit, you know, how do you call it? What's that thing you called? Parassocial.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Let's get a little parisocial with it and show them what's hanging out in our fridge. I think we should do it. Let me see your fridge. So we're going fridge for fridge right now. Yeah, this is my fridge. I am looking at your fridge right now. You know what I love seeing in a fridge? What?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Multiple Tupperware's with leftover thingy things in them? Yeah, yeah. Do you want me to explain? Do you want me to explain my Tupperware? Explain what's in the Tupperware? You know what, actually, I'm going to explain from the top all the way down. So I have a milk and coffee section. I have my organic valley milk.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's David's milk. And then I have two milks. I have a lactate protein milk and a milked almond milk. I believe the brand is called Emhurst Farms. I love Elmhurst Farm's milk. Me too. Their nut milks are incredible. They have a hazelnut milk.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh, yeah, it's good. You know what, their hazelnut and walnut milk gets a little bitter for me. I know, but I like it. You like the bitterness. That's how you know there's a lot of nuts. That's right. You know. Because the thing, nuts are bitter.
Starting point is 00:06:04 They are. You know? Yeah. Fair. And then I have a cold brew from La Colom. And then we have my little fermenty shelf, which has Castle Vitrono Olives and some, what is it called? It's sourcrow.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Is that pickled ginger left over from a sushi bar? No. it's actually pickled horsy leftover from a pinnini place. Panini kebub? No. I'll tremazino. And then I have Vital Farm eggs.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I have a baggie of white onions and avocado next to each other. Wait, you keep the avocado and the onion in the same bag? My girl. What else would I do? I love that. People judge me when I just store
Starting point is 00:06:43 the same leftovers in the same bag. Yeah, you have to do that way. They're like the avocado's going to smell like onion. I'm like great. I've made a new product. Exactly. I'm down. You know, I've made a sort of vapor infusion.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And the chances are I'm going to use both of those to make a salad or a guacamole or a spread. So why not? A little bit of sour cream. I don't normally have sour cream in my fridge, but I did because I made a lime crema for some reason. Some having artichot carts, I have at least four different Faye Greek yogurt at any given moment. I love Fahe-A-Greek yogurt. I always go for 2 to 5% in terms of fat. I got some barrel-aged miso, some lactate freaking cottage cheese.
Starting point is 00:07:21 A White Claw, a medello, some garlic confi that's in that Tupperware, some Shabbat leftovers in that Ralph's bag. Bobby's Pickles, obviously, lots of, did I talk about my confit garlic? Yeah. Oh, he did? Okay. That's homemade confit garlic? Homemade confi garlic. Fun.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And then two Tupperware's of beef that I made, some good old beef. Wow. Yeah. Any other questions? No, that's about it. I don't think this is. My fridge. What's up?
Starting point is 00:07:51 My fridge. Uh-huh. I'm going to come look at your fridge. Okay. My fridge, this was all taken after I had gotten home from... Oh, it's similar to mine. It is similar, though, right? Do you have the same fridge?
Starting point is 00:08:02 This is, my fridge is normally way more filled with things, but I, this was taken on a Sunday night, and I had just gotten back from, like, a five-day wedding extravaganza. Sure. And so this is in short spice. So I just bought stuff to make, like, two days for the dinners. Mm-hmm. But if you look at the top, miscellaneous cheese drawer. I call that the Julia drawer.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, nice. I have a cheese drawer, too. We got the goat cheese up there, several tiny things of like Parmesan rinds that I'm like, Julia, please just finish these and she doesn't. We have some feta cheese up there. Duke's mayonnaise. I would normally buy fayet, but my grocery store just runs out of fay all the time. And then I, like, begrudgingly get Chobani, which is not nearly as good as fayet. I agree.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Gigi paste, ginger garlic, because I was cooking a bunch of Indian food. Bottled lemon juice, nice to have on hand. Air does salsa verde, greatest in the game. The mysterious glass jar back there might be a clue. Cool. Look at that glass jar back there up top. And then look at that mason jar on the second shelf. I know it's onions. What's in the glass jar?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Up there, beet juice. Beat juice, baby. Only need six drops of it. Got to buy 32 ounces. Got beet juice in my fridge for about six months. Right. Sometimes I'll make myself lemonade at night. And you put some beet juice in your lemonade?
Starting point is 00:09:10 To make a pink lemonade. Oh my gosh. You are nuts. That's such a good idea. Kind of nice. Two things of Fair Life milk. I normally like Fair Life. I've switched over to lacquate protein
Starting point is 00:09:20 because it's all my grocery store has right now. Understood. We have such similar fridges. This is insane. Down to the brown Ralph's bag, Josh? Yeah, brown Ralph's bag. Mine's filled with raw meat. Mine's filled with Shabbat leftovers.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh, okay. The Vidal Farms eggs. Yeah. Why are we so similar? You know, I think we have good taste. You know, various leftovers at the bottom. That's where you keep the leftovers. Next to the lettuce.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Next to the lettuce. John. That's a nice little like yogurt, roast of red pepper, sauce I made, a little bit of like Griego Caesar dressing, and then that's some batata hara. See, you have Persian food in your fridge. I have Lebanese food. Josh, I
Starting point is 00:10:00 swear on my life. Just two Middle Eastern girlies out here, Channel lives. Dude, we need to... Cucumbers. We have the same... Wait, hold on, you're not understanding. We have the same refrigerator. I thought the picture... Wait, do we really? Yes, don't you get it? I thought the picture of your fridge was a picture of my fridge.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Josh, we have the same refrigerator. Look, look at this part. It's... It's almost the same. Yeah, I never know what to put there. Do you know what I put on the side? What do you put on the side? I literally put, there's a butter section with all my different butters, and then there's anchovies and sunride tomatoes. And then at the bottom is pickled ginger, literally bottled barefoot wine, kimchi, and medications.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, I got a bottle, I got a random bottle of wine that's a couple months old, used for cooking. I have some of Julia's medication there. I have pickled ginger. I have mango pickle as well. I also have miso. Do you have horseradish? I don't have horseradish. You should get some.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I'll come over, get some horseradish. Dude, it's actually... Yeah, one, two, three, four. I got like six hot sauces. Meggy, have you seen the side-by-side comparison of our fridges? No, but you're like Twinsies. We are Twinsies. Josh, we should...
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's where my yeast is. Dude, I didn't even... I was looking for the yeast. That's where your yeast is. I was looking for my yeast. Nice. This is so insane to me. Okay, well, let's go to...
Starting point is 00:11:15 Do you have a drinks area? Do you have a drinks area in your fridge? Yeah, it's like a separate. one. Wait, you have the one that has the four compartments? I have, I have this one that has like four different like cute little holders. See, we don't have that. I don't have that. I have a separate thing in my fridge that I don't know if I took a picture of. I literally, so mine's really cute. So I like to do like a Sprite option and then a bubbly version that's like bubbly the brand of Sparkling Ladder. That's the same. It's like if you want Sprite, you can
Starting point is 00:11:42 have Sprite or you can have bubbly lime. I like that. Do you think it's really good? I think what we need to do is I think me, you Julian and David need to move in together. I think I've been saying that for song. We can help take care of the baby. While you and David go on date nights. And then I can teach your cat to have doctors.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And then when you come back from date nights, we can, you know, leave. You can go to date nights. You can like, yeah. And then you can go to date. I swear, we're so, I mean, I feel like our setups are so similar just based off of our fridges. I feel like it makes sense at this point.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah, you have like the random like half smashed tube of tomato paste that isn't like rolled up properly Would that piss you off? No, no, because I do the same. You do? Yeah, we have, Nicole, we have, I don't even know if I included a picture in my freezer.
Starting point is 00:12:32 We both have the same Trader Joe's Blood Orange Mochi in our freezer. Josh. We both have true fru, banana. Oh my God. Wait, what's this random thing of frozen noodles? It's Udao noodles. It's Udong, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I have toq poikin. I have tokokki noodles. Not noodles, but you know, a little rice cakes. Josh, it's so crazy. I also have some kosher burghese sausage and I also have those little Trader Joe's hash browns.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It's incredible. Do you have Nato? Is that Nato? I have Nato. I eat Nato all the time. It's so good for you. You eat Nato all the time? You're eating Nato casually?
Starting point is 00:13:06 I eat Nato like once a month. It's like good for you. Yeah, no, it certainly is. I didn't know that. David hates it when I make Nato at home. It's not my favorite food in the world. He goes, what's that smell? And I go, it's the soybeans you like.
Starting point is 00:13:16 He goes, oh, man. I'm going to go outside. And then I have tons of frozen alcohol. You know what? I don't keep alcohol in the freezer ever. We never know when we're having guests just come over, so we always have. But why are you drinking frozen alcohol? It tastes better.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I think it tastes worse. Frozen alcohol tastes. If you go to, if you go to, it tastes colder, it tastes less. If you're, like, ripping, like, crappy shots of, you know, vodka that you bought on the bottom shelf for $9. trying to get drunk at a party, freeze it 100%. Okay. But if you, like, have a nice bottle of mescal.
Starting point is 00:13:52 There's literally nice bottles of alcohol in my freezer. That's crazy. You're like, that's not a thing you're advised to do. Like, if you go to, like, a tequila mescal tasting. There are always no temp? Yeah. Yeah. That's a wild thing to me that you're doing this with, like,
Starting point is 00:14:07 a nice bottle of Madre Mescal. Can I tell you what it is? It's David's home preference. Like, David's dad loves a syrupy vodka. and I think it's just one of those adaptations of, like, growing up in a house with, like, oh, if it's syrupy, that means it's properly chilled, which might not be the truth, but it is his, it is his family's truth. I think you tend to drink, I think you do tend to drink vodka ice cold, though. I think vodka might be. Yeah. That's interesting. I don't know. Anybody that knows more than us about the proper temperature to store and serve alcohol, let me know.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I literally have mezcal, really high quality tequila. and some sort of like creme liqueur in there just freezing temperatures at all times Oh dude I didn't take a picture of my bar I should have You should have it's okay I didn't take you talk to them I'll see if I can find one on my phone
Starting point is 00:14:54 So I think I'd be nice if I told you guys About like my burner setup I have a gas stove Which was very important Whenever I was looking at a place to move to I have four burners And then I don't have an above range I have the bottom range where it sucks it in
Starting point is 00:15:11 sucks the air out from the bottom which sometimes screws around with my flame a little bit. So sometimes I need to cook first and then turn on my range, which can kind of like make my house a little bit steamy, smelly, but it's okay. Like after a while I just open all the windows. And then sometimes when I make burgers, my fire alarm goes off and then I have to take a shirt and violently like, you know, hit it a bunch of times
Starting point is 00:15:36 and like flap it around. So the like smoke gets away from it. But most of my neighbors don't like mine. too much. Do you have... I'm trying to find a picture of it and I can't. Do you have gas burners at home? No, I have a crappy electric top lane.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You do? How do you survive? Any way that I can. Do you use a camp stove oven at home ever? No, I just don't ever cook with... Don't ever cook with fire. It's a huge bummer for me. But you don't even cook with fire here.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I know. I almost never cook with fire anymore and it sucks. Josh, what the hell? There has to be a picture of my bar here. Do you use your broiler? Do you use your broiler? All the time. All the time.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I use my broiler constantly and I really love it. I didn't put a picture of my home bar in here. Okay. But I think that's the crown jewel of like my whole home. Because I think I have like
Starting point is 00:16:24 32 bottles of liquor on it. Is it in your kitchen? It's right. It's adjacent to it. So the home bar, it's like, I've kind of taken half the living room
Starting point is 00:16:33 and turned it into kitchen and bar. Okay. And I think that's sort of how we want to live. That's fair. So if we're running through, looking at your pantry,
Starting point is 00:16:42 Got some canned goods Some nice crushed tomatoes Can I tell you something about my pantry? My mom came over like two weeks ago And was at my house for about seven hours And me and her literally gutted my whole and all of my pantries And we cleaned from head to toe And scrubbed every single side of my walls
Starting point is 00:17:03 Because it got really messy after a while Because I was just throwing stuff in there Literally redid the bottoms of it Put like those like anti-stick covers and then we organize everything. Can you tell? It wasn't freshly organized. No, it looks nice.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It looks nice, no? It looks nice, but not like, you know, there's like the kind of like rich suburban, you know, mom. They got all the dividers and all that. We don't do dividers. No, you don't got that. Some whole walnuts. I love that. But I do have a bunch of oils.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Now, my cooking oils are ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil and sesame oil, which is very important to me. And then I have right next to it is all my vinegars. I have a large collection. of vinegars. I have red wine vinegar. I have rice wine. I have two different kinds of balsamic. I just think it's good to have a pantry. You have the same bottle of dark soy sauce that I can see, even though the label's not turned out. I see it in there. How can you tell? Is it the yellow on top? No, it's the purple and the yellow. Oh, the purple and the
Starting point is 00:17:58 yellow. And it's the staining around the cap in yellow. That is what that is, right? The same obscure bottle of Chinese dark soy? Yep. Yep. That's the one. How good of a product is that? I use it in everything. I use it in my ground beef that you saw in my fridge. It's almost like adding like browning, like caramel color. It's literally like out in kitchen bouquet. Dude, it's great. Fall is the perfect season to invest in yourself. And what better way than learning a new language?
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Starting point is 00:20:37 I have pomegranate molasses. A bunch of different... I have chunking vinegar, black vinegar. I have... What is that? I have Chinese cooking wine. Basically, I'm really well organized right now, which never happens. And then you get to the drunk.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Down there is where all my junk is. Yeah, random cereals. Is that pineapple fanta? Hell yeah. Deep cut, dude. Yeah, it's... Spicy salted egg, salmon skin. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh, have you ever had that before? No, is it good? It's the best snack. Ever. If you're ever craving chips and you're trying to, like, watch your carbon take. The salmon skin, the salted, spicy egg yolk salmon skin is the best snack ever. I think a pack might be like $12.13, though, for that small amount. But it is so damn delicious.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And it's filled with omega-3s, which is really good for your skin and hair. And then David just got back from Japan, so he got me a bunch of red bean pancakes. That's where those purple boxes are. Let's see how closely mine. This is just what this episode has become, is like how closely. is my stuff going to be to yours. Oh, I didn't take a picture
Starting point is 00:21:42 of my spice drawer! That's okay. That's crazy. So if you look at my dry goods pantry, you have, you know, your baking powder, got some panko breadcrunch, corn starch,
Starting point is 00:21:51 big thing of Splenda, that's all it's fun. This is really unorganized right now, don't judge me. I would never judge you. There's other things to judge you about. We got brown sugar. Nothing really interesting in here.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Remember the granola that we got a cookbook fest? No. It was like a year ago? No. Those bags of granola? I didn't get a bag of granola. I got a bag of granola from it.
Starting point is 00:22:11 What do you mean? I don't need a lot of granola. Whole wheat spaghetti, really high-quality spagatoni from monograno. I don't know what that is. Really good brand. Nothing interesting there. If we go down, oh, potatoes, an apple, and a phone charger. Sitting in a bowl.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Three food groups. A bunch of chilies and spices. My misorganized spice drawer with katsabushi. You don't close your packages? Yeah, they're dry, dude. What do you mean? They're dried chilies. They're just drying more.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Freaking put a piece of tape on it. Why? Close it. It's a dried chili. That's how you get bugs. You want bugs? No bugs are eating the chilies. There's cat shit everywhere in my home.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I'm eating my cats' hairs every night. When the sun streams through my kitchen window at 5.18 p.m. It illuminates every single cat hair. floating there's thousands you're worried about my chilies being open he just sits in my cast irons because they're warm in the sun what he sits in my cast irons the cat you have no control of your pet no I don't he's like a team that deserves to be on Dr. Phil
Starting point is 00:23:25 as he goes you need to show some respect and then the crowd goes my cats have so much respect they do it behind my back they do all that stuff not in front of my face because they don't have the audacity I love I love my cats, by the way. I love. Having an animal softened, dude, don't you think? So if you look at mine, this is... What the hell? Why do you ignore me? We're not. We're talking about kitchens.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I have ghee in my pantry, and you have ghee in your pantry, but you... Do you see the same... We have ghee. Do you see the same bottle of dark soy? And the same bottle of red wine vinegar. Same bottle of red wine vinegar? Oh my... Do you have Fly-By-Jing chili oil? Um, no. Do you have an old box of Yehuda Matsu? Yeah, I threw it away.
Starting point is 00:24:09 For Passover that's three years old. I threw it away. That your mother-in-law came over and said, I have an old box of matzah, it's open. And instead of going... Throw it away. No. Susan, throw it away. We put it, we just keep it.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And Julia will go, can I donate this? Donate! Donate! Donate! Donate an open box of Masta? That's crazy. You can expire for three years? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:31 What am I going to do it? So I guess I'll just grind it into Panko. Throw it in the garbage. What are you doing? I call it Janko. Hey, why don't you just throw it in the? the damn trash. I can't.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Why? She finds that she gets mad. No, throw it in the dumpster downstairs, freak. Oh, dude, I have a can of tuna? Hell yeah. This is the best episode we've ever done. I'm not very organized. Big thing of diamond crystal kosher salt.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Good. Toasted garlic, roasted sesame. You have three kinds of cereal? Cochukado. One of these cereals are bobby me, but we have honeynut gerios. We have rice Krispies. What is the reason? What is the reason?
Starting point is 00:25:04 Sometimes Julia likes to eat a bowl of cereal. And then, no, this is the, best. So we have our, if you look below. So much she's candy bags. So the seize candy bags are to bribe Susan. Susan, I know you're listening to this. No, she's not. Check this out. Every time Julia
Starting point is 00:25:21 comes over to your home and goes, Mom, I went to seize candy and I thought of you and I bought you the, what is it, like the marshmallow caramel? Scotch mullos? Scotch mullos. That's my favorite. And Susan, we get along. You really love each other. Every time Julia says that, what she actually did is she
Starting point is 00:25:36 bought the scotch mullos in bulk and she keeps that in our pantry and then when she needs to ask you to watch the cat she just picks one up out of our pantry so that's what that is are you for real what are you is that a real thing your wife does she does trickery on her own mother i don't think it's quite trickery but it's but it does feel weird that we aren't such trickery we aren't just giving susan all the scottomalos that we have you tell julia that is such bad energy but like would it be Better if Julia, because here's the thing, the mall where the Seas Candy is in Susan's apartment, they're not that far from each other. I'm, why?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Does Julia need to go back to Seas Candy to buy a pre-wrapped malle, or Scotch Mallow? No. Every time? No, but why, Mom, I just, why doesn't she just get her a box and just, and then just ask her randomly? Well, then what would she bring her the next time? You don't need to bring her stuff all the time. We do. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:26:37 It's an offering. No, maybe you can just, maybe you can just ask. Maybe she could just ask her mom. Sometimes we get her bananas. Josh, stop it. Maybe she could just ask her mom. Maybe she doesn't have to like, you know. Susan, I'll start bringing you flowers more often.
Starting point is 00:26:52 No, no, you don't need to bribe. Listen, let me tell you. I am so tired of people assuming you need to bribe people to do nice things for you. Just ask. And then, you know, when they ask you, you do the nice thing. Why do you have to constantly give them little gifts? No, it's called having respect for each other. Josh, can you...
Starting point is 00:27:08 No, but it's also, it's showing her that you care by saying, hey, I know you like this little treat. That's her mom! She doesn't want, she doesn't want to have the treats around all the time. I wouldn't want, I love, I don't know, a chaco taco taco, right? I don't want to keep a box of chaco tacos tacos in my apartment. Okay. You know, I've eaten chocolate tacos all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:25 But if you showed up to my apartment and he said, Josh, I got you a chaco taco taco. And then Josh go pick up my laundry. Well, no, we don't, it's not like a one-to-one. You made it sound like it's a one-to-one. Like a week later, if it's like, hey, Susan, but also she would do this just because she loves us. Exactly. Yeah, but then, you know, you sort of,
Starting point is 00:27:41 you remember the mallow, the scotch molo. I keep wondering told him Malamar. This is ridiculous. I don't think it is. It's like, it's like saying, okay, I'll let you, like, invite five of your friends to my birthday party, but I'm going to invite five of my friends to your birthday party.
Starting point is 00:27:56 That's almost exactly how it works. Why don't you just... That's almost exactly how it works. I don't think that should be the case. I think you should just do nice things. If you have the ability to be kind and you have the time to do things, you don't need to scotchamolo it. But that's how you naturally integrate friend groups, right?
Starting point is 00:28:09 No. Happens all the time. I hate you. What were you Googling? I was Googling the difference in a Malamar and the Scotch Molo. What do you want to look at? What do you want to compare now? Do you want to move in together us for yes or no?
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think we should. I think we should. It would save money on rent. We already spend so much time together. So here's the interesting thing when... What's Cocofino? David Cocofino. That is like I think of...
Starting point is 00:28:37 Venezuelan brand of cookies that I used for a... Oh, I made a plantain pudding. Yum. Because for 4th of July once I cooked for a big like barbecue and I did everything to celebrate the birth of
Starting point is 00:28:51 America. I just didn't specify which America so I cooked an entire South American feast but all based off of, so I did like Chorri Pan burgers. Yum. You know, did like a little skirt like Jimmy Churi. Okay. Made a big thing of like Guyanese
Starting point is 00:29:04 maconri pie. Yum. And then I did a, like, roasted plantin pudding. Delish. So, like, a banana pudding, but with, like, really deeply, darkly caramelized plantins. Delish. It was good, but the thing is, like, plantins, when they get cold, they're kind of starchy, so they kind of, like, seize up almost like a cold potato. Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:20 In a way. So, it could have been better. It's still pretty good. Still enjoyed it. I see what you're saying. And I use the cocoa fino cookies instead of... Smart. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So, can we look at one thing? Let's talk about, like, as actual cooks, how we like to set up our kitchen. Uh-huh. When you share a space with somebody, like a roommate. Yeah. Or a husband. Husband. You don't have full control of what goes in.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I have 95% control of the kitchen. Well, and I think it's because of antiquated gender roles. Yeah. Correct. Yes. And so I would love to be the woman in this relationship entirely. What do you mean? I would just love to be.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And when I say not to essentialize womanhood, but like I would love to have that 95% control because I do 95% of the cooking. I do 90% of. Julie, I think, still feels a certain amount of pressure and control over the pantry and cooking. You know one of the two things David uses the most in the kitchen? The coffee maker and the toaster oven. Incredible. And I let him do it, and he's so good at both of those things. People don't think that I'm like, I don't come off as a very organized person, right?
Starting point is 00:30:18 I don't really, I, damn it. No, I think it's organized but to your standards. Does that make sense? Like, you know where everything is. If I were to tell you, hey, can you find that piece of paper that the IRS sent like three weeks ago? Like, you would know where the paper is. Definitely not that specific example But if I ask you like
Starting point is 00:30:37 Hey did you get that check from so-and-so? Yeah, yeah Like you would know where the paper is So if we look at the one... No? No, no, you're correct. If we look at the one area I didn't know cleaning or prep of this space whatsoever
Starting point is 00:30:49 This is my weightlifting supplement And actual cooking prep area Where I do 80% of my prep. It looks beautiful. It's smaller than I thought it would be. It's all I need. If you're in a restaurant, you have your prep station, you have your area. It's big enough to roll out any pasta
Starting point is 00:31:04 dough, any dough that I need. Sure. I have all my appliances there. SotoStream, coffee maker, Vitamix, food processor, Ninja Bullet, stand mixer. I have all of my utensils that are hanging from racks. I have my stainless steel pans. I have my strainers. I have my non-sticks.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I have my sauce pots. I have my Dutch oven. The only thing, these two, if you ever see, like, a box within, like a cabinet, that's not mine. That's Julius. I see. So she's a box girl. I don't do that. I just leave it open.
Starting point is 00:31:34 If you look what's in the boxes. Rolling pins. No, it's like random papers and stuff. Oh, so she has random. So she's the random paper. Uh-huh. But this, this is mine. This is my area that is my, just got called Josh's special boy chef area.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'll say this. It is gorgeously organized. Mine is not like that. I got, I have all of my, um, my kitchen. What are these things called? My kitchen? No, no, no, go down. No, go up.
Starting point is 00:31:59 No, go down. No, go back to that picture. Go back to Josh's special corner. I'm going. Like, what are these called? Tongs? No, what are those called? Um, which ones?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Josh, what are these called? What do you point? Huh? Equipments? Yeah, so my appliance, Josh, I'm stupid and pregnant. My brain shrunk already. The appliances, my kitchen appliances are all hidden. Call it stagnant.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Huh? Huh? Hmm? Why your appliance is hidden Because I don't like them in my area I like to have them hidden It makes my kitchen look cleaner And more organized when they're up there
Starting point is 00:32:42 I have my Vitamix I have my KitchenAid All that stuff is hiding On a top cabinet where no one can see it But yours is much nicer than mine I think your kitchen is gorgeous I think your kitchen is gorgeous And it actually is really
Starting point is 00:32:54 Interesting how similar Both of our like fridges and pantries Really are I think the things that we use aren't you're really similar. Do you think there's anything from the way, because again,
Starting point is 00:33:04 neither of us are particularly organized. You see a lot of them influencers that got like, we for a while bought the blank spice containers that like, oh, we can buy spices wholesale
Starting point is 00:33:14 and then keep all these organized and label these. Not wholesale, but you know what I mean? Like, you don't have to buy a new jar every time you get a spice. Correct. So we got our own,
Starting point is 00:33:22 we labeled them, and that lasted like six weeks. You know what I mean? And then suddenly it was like, well, I really only wanted to buy Berberet spice once But now we've used up a label on that thing
Starting point is 00:33:34 And I can't get it off with the gougon So that's fine Yeah And then you know you just kind of like forget And then you're in hurry for dinner And you're like I'm just gonna buy the black pepper again And the thing So we're not those type of people
Starting point is 00:33:45 No But I think there are certain things in our kitchens That makes sense that other people Could take certain cues from Sure Like uh... Buy a lot of fats Yeah a lot of vinegars
Starting point is 00:33:55 A lot of fats Buy a lot of vinegars For forever Yeah I know the vinegar is like six bucks a bottle and like not everyone would just want to blow six bucks in a bottle but if you're somebody that is already saying buying pre-made salad dressing I haven't bought I haven't bought a salad dressing in years I just I only have ranch ranch is my only pre-made salad dressing yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:34:14 I just if I'm dressing a salad just olive oil vinegar lemon and then if I want to make a fun dressing you have all the bones of it if you know how to do it and it literally takes you know 30 seconds to a minute to do exactly you know dark soy buy it be like us Buy it. What's the world is Von Miller, Super Bowl MVP, chicken farmer, and now host of Free Range. This is a show where I go off the field
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Starting point is 00:36:02 Only if it's Willicity F. Muffman related. Josh, is having a moment right now. Forgive me chefs for I have sinned. I put guacamole on a cheese steak. Hey. And it was really good. Yeah, that sounds good. You have to try it sometimes.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, that sounds good. I do not repent for you. No Hail Mary's. What are the other things Catholics do? What are the prayers Catholics do? I don't think I should say the other things Catholics do. It was all over the news for a while. The prayers. No, Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:36:35 They won an Oscar for the movie. Doubt? Nope. Not that one. Talking about doubt. I'm talking about doubt. You're talking about doubt. What are you talking about that?
Starting point is 00:36:47 There's prayers in Catholicism that you do to absolve you of your sins. A room full of three Jews. None of us know other than me. What a Hail Mary is apparently. rosary rosaries are a catholic thing frankincense and mur maybe I was supposed to Oh sacrament sacrament sacrament sacrament
Starting point is 00:37:09 A little chip Eat a little chip That's not sacrament no that's called something else What are you talking about? It's what's the trot? Communion Wayframing Communion Take communion and four hellberries Transubstantiation
Starting point is 00:37:24 I've always wanted to eat one of those communion reefers, but I'm scared I'll turn it to a Catholic if I do. I'll tell you what, once. I accidentally, I was a little lit and I did communion accidentally. Oh, no, you were tricked. I wasn't tricked. They tricked you. I had to pee during a Catholic wedding. It was very long. They didn't trick him. And then I walked back inside. I was a little lit. It was a good friend's wedding. And then I just see people lined up to eat the body of Christ. And I thought everyone was supposed to do it because I just saw people lined up and was like, surely everyone's sitting down, I already took communion.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And so I get up in the line, and then I see some people are, like, crossing their arms, and they're not eating your cracker. And I was like, that must be if you're not hungry. You just cross your arms. They don't give you a cracker. And so I walk up there, and I just opened my mouth. And the priest is putting it directly in people's mouth. So I walk up to the priest and open my mouth.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And he just goes, are you Catholic? And I go, huh? And then he puts a cracker in my mouth. And it turns out if you weren't Catholic, but still, just wanted to get blessed by the priest you put your arms over each other and he could smell the fact that I wasn't Catholic Yeah he could tell
Starting point is 00:38:31 I could be Catholic No but he could tell I guess yeah I just smelled like Jew I don't know The point is Guacamole on a cheese steak sounds really nice Sounds good It's basically a torta at that point
Starting point is 00:38:45 And I Josh loves tortes Is that your favorite sandwich? I don't know why No it's uh it's The, you like torta-ahogadas. Tortas, hogadas, yeah. That bien.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Pombasos are also nice. What I was going to say is... Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah? I don't think we should... Maggie, do you know what that means? No. Talks?
Starting point is 00:39:13 It's actually, like, very inclusive, I think. I don't know. Is it racist? Is it... I don't think it's fat phobic. I think it's fat philic. You know, I think beauty at every size. And I love guacamole in a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Oh, my God. Sorry, continue, continue. Dext opinion? Hey, Josh and Nicole. My name is Zach from Minnesota. And my opinion is deviled eggs have no business being sweet. Some people have used cherry juice or sweet relish in them. and I think they are Neanderthals.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Those things deserve to be nice and salty. Have a great day, and I triple dog dare you, Josh, to get frosted tips. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I think I'd look really good. All I ever wanted. Yeah. Dude, Mark McGrath. Come on. I saw him live recently.
Starting point is 00:40:18 David loves that band. What's it called? Sugar Red. Sugar. Sugar Ray. Switch foot. No, Mark McGrath alive, incredible. He's so handsome.
Starting point is 00:40:33 He's so handsome. He's always been handsome. And he's out there and he has like a sense of humor about Sugar Ray. Good. You know, and he's just like, seems so wonderful. And he even, like, made a joke about his frosted tips on stage and it was like, you just look like you're living your best life. The thing is, you think you'd look like Mark McGrathwood in reality.
Starting point is 00:40:49 You look like Shifty Shell Shoe. R.P. Shifty Shell Shoe. R&P, we love you, Shifty. R&P, Shetty, Shell Shock. Are you putting cherry juice in a deviled egg? I've never heard this. People will cure them with beet juice, they'll dye them. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:41:04 That's how you can use the rest of your beet juice in your damn fridge. Do you know how much beet juice that uses? That uses like two tablespoons. Okay, what do you mean? It's a drop in the ocean. Get it out of here. Golly, man. Too much beet juice from a damn fridge.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I should just bought beats and just like use them. Yeah, you should have. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. I even used a lot of bee juice and cocktail Hey, I'm having so much This is fun
Starting point is 00:41:28 You know, this is fun You know, despite everything You can I tell you I laughed so hard That my baby went like this Oh my God Oh no, I'm gonna kill your baby From being so hard
Starting point is 00:41:36 No, it's good What do you mean? I was laughing so hard She literally went like Your baby did the wave And I had to touch her To make sure I was like you good So funny
Starting point is 00:41:48 Ew, sweet devil dead Gross get out of here I don't even like, people have been putting candied bacon on devil eggs. Don't do that either. Leave my bacon uncanned. Stick to a little paprika garnish or a damn parsley sprig. Don't get too fancy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Don't get too fancy. Capers. Sweet relish, I think, plays. I like sweet relish. I like sweet. But that's only if it's salty and musterty after that. I agree. I think you're correct.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Okay. I just got distracted by all the Mark McGrathawk. Hey, Josh and just Josh, because I'm hoping you guys choose to play this when Nicole's on an eternity leave. Nope, it's now or never, baby. My topic is baby food. I think we need to invent new baby foods. I'm thinking like chicken and waffle baby food, like have one of it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And also, some baby food is weird, and I want to see it be made into an adult dish, like some banana and avocado stuff. So, yeah, I hope you like the topic, and I hope you feed Nicole whatever you come up with. I love that Why would I eat the baby food? In his perfect world What happened is you were on maternity leave I listened to that
Starting point is 00:42:59 Got inspired to make Like banana avocado Puray baby food Cupcakes You know with like an avocado And it was frosting And then showed up to you And gave you that
Starting point is 00:43:10 Or I made like a I don't know State like a Texas smoked Kielbasa and cornbread baby food You know We're like a, or like a, or like a, since like a skyline chili baby food and fed it to your baby. Interesting. You know?
Starting point is 00:43:25 I don't know. How did I end up at kielbasa and cornbread? I don't know. Since I'm not supposed to be here, I'm not going to answer. I don't know. I don't know what the baby food industry needs to disrupt. So I'm also going. I love where your headset.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Big space, a lot of money there. I think Jessica Alba made a lot of money off of it. Is that true? Honest company? Is that her? Do they make food? I don't know if they make food. Jessica Bealba?
Starting point is 00:43:49 Jessica Alba? Jessica Alba. Jessica Alba. Dark Angel. Yeah. Honey. Honey. Idol hands.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I hope that me and you both are like honey. Idol hands. Because that was a really, she was really beautiful and honey. Okay, now do Jessica Beal. Seventh Heaven. I never really watched a lot of Jessica Beal growing up. Blade Trinity? Never saw it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Oh my God, such a good movie. Who was the one girl that was like Electra? Jennifer Garner. I love Jennifer Garner. I also do. I hope that answered your question about baby food Hi It's S.J from Minnesota
Starting point is 00:44:26 Hi SJ I'm currently living in my van My kitchen consists of a single burner Butane stove Hell yeah Like a little pot holder And that's really all I have to cook with A couple of really small
Starting point is 00:44:43 pans And so I guess my question is, what are some creative meals that I can have with no refrigeration and only that as a way to cook thing? Great question. Let me know what you think might be good, thanks. Single burner. So you cannot make multiple meals.
Starting point is 00:45:09 You've got to be a one-stop shop situation. I'm imagining a lot of beef stroganoffs, a lot of spaghetti bowl and spagg bowls, single bowl. like one pot meals Right? I mean Rommans Sounds like a job for slop I just this is what I mean this is my life
Starting point is 00:45:26 I make one pot meals Because you know I don't want to clean more things A casserole just instead of like putting it in a casserole dish You just finish baking it off in the pot You know what I think my answer is Check this how here's what you do Huh Get a tube of ginger garlic paste
Starting point is 00:45:41 Uh huh You get some sort of ground meat Uh huh Potato some sort of green vegetable You put all that in the pot Ginger garlic You get one bag of something That ends in masala
Starting point is 00:45:52 That isn't garum You get a more like prepared masala Like something that just says Like tundori masala You know something that just says Like a sandwiched masala Get some sort of masala You dump that in there
Starting point is 00:46:04 Deglazes some water Potatoes thicken that up And it's just flavorful And nutrient dense I made almost that exact thing yesterday It is by no means Something I would call a curry or Indian food at all
Starting point is 00:46:18 but it gets the job bag of powders taste delicious ginger garlic paste tastes delicious and I get to eat a healthy bowl of wet food that I really enjoy I would say that but we have to talk about proportions and we have to talk about proportions because
Starting point is 00:46:35 they don't have refrigeration so they have to literally do this every day in small quantities not necessarily Nicole why have you heard about the perpetual stew so check this out oh perpetual stew guy yeah perpetual stew guy I know all about perpetual stew guy
Starting point is 00:46:54 started following him from the jump actually you can leave that going for dates okay but this person lives in a van yeah the van's gonna burn down yeah the van's gonna burn down you gotta you gotta you gotta go somewhere and you gotta go to the butcher you gotta go somewhere with a butcher and you buy like a quarter pound of meat at a time every day okay
Starting point is 00:47:13 so you can't get I don't want person to get sick. I don't want to say to get sick. I don't want to get sick either. Who's telling to get sick? Well, you're the one that doesn't care about the portions because it's not... We're going about the portions. What are you doing? I'm caring about the portions! You're telling me to get ramen? I'm caring about the portions.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Why are we fighting? I don't know. It's actually really bad whenever I just like jump to conclusions and yell at you. It's actually wrong of me to do and I'm so sorry for yelling at you and getting really like pointed. So what I'm trying to say is this person needs to cook small meals in order to make sure that they don't get sick so they finish the meal and then they make a new one. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, but I'm trying to think what He looks at me with these dead eyes with these dead eyes. Is this what you call a dead eye stare? Just completely dead void of emotion, void of any sort of like like anything going on. The lights are off.
Starting point is 00:48:12 No one is whole. I was thinking this is my. thinking face I go Do you guys how many teachers just came up to me in high school and went Are you okay? And I go Yeah why And like you're just
Starting point is 00:48:26 Had the most blank stare That like vaguely frightened Yes It's this weird vaguely frightened Like dead about the eye stare I'm scared all the time Anything else you want to add? I mean like
Starting point is 00:48:39 Let's think about like what shelf stable Corn beef Okay You corn beef you get packets of corned beef you get cans of corn beef corn beef corn beef no
Starting point is 00:48:49 rice rice kind of actually doesn't keep room temp like that corn beef but it in
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