A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Ranking Mormon Soda Hacks With Emily Fleming

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

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This, this, this, this is mythical. Oh yeah, can I get one a dirty soda? Why are you talking like that? Yeah, just one dirty soda, please. Makes you extra dirty form. Sir, this is a Wendy's. No, no, no, this is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie.

Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so wet. That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a sandwich to the show. We break down the world's biggest food debates. I am your host, Josh Sharon.

We got a very special guest with us today. We got Emily Fleming back in the flesh. Yeah, and I'm on a tear today, baby. You walked in here going, I'm on a tear today. I'm on one. You also said something like, keep that edit button sharp. You're going to be it. You better go, man.

We're obviously, we're making a bunch of Mormon dirty sodas today. Is it specific to that, or does this exist? culturally elsewhere? I'm trying to figure out an analogy. It has become specifically associated with Utah and Mormon culture. The idea of a dirty soda. It was literally trademarked

by, I believe your name was Nicole Tanner from Swig's soda shop. Trademark the term dirty soda. But if you look at this, you can trace the origin. I watched my big fat Greek wedding too many times and I'm Jewish, so I'm like one of those guys that's like Jews invented everything. Jews invented Tempera. I actually believe that.

And I believe that Jews invented the dirty soda. with Brooklyn soda jerks because they're making stuff like egg creams where they're putting cream and syrup and soda water into sodas, you know, 80 years ago in Brooklyn. But now the Mormons have led the charge on the world stage for it. Mormons versus Jews. Get the trigger, get it ready. The Mormons are so much more athletic.

Every Mormon I've ever known has played three sports and they've played two instruments and they can all backflip. The backflip thing. I see all the stuff about the backflip. because they're not smoking and they're not drinking, so they have time to backflip. Yeah, I guess this kind of thing, it makes me feel like it's a replacement for alcohol. Yes, very much so. They use a term, and I've been told by Mormons that I know a weird amount about Mormon culture.

I did grow up around a lot of Mormons, especially playing sports. Yeah, Southern California, Orange County, just like a big Mormon population. Really? Yeah, maybe it was specific to where I was. One of the, not the Real Housewives, one of the secret lives of Mormon wives, Macy actually went to like the high school that was closer to my apartment than where I actually went. So she went like my rifle. They're like your age.

They're, I think a little bit younger than me. I think she was a couple years behind. But yeah, she played tennis at a tennis at Tesoro. Go Titans. We used to play them in basketball every year. Oh yeah. We're Titans at Tennessee too. Yeah, yeah.

By the way, I'm so sorry that my accent's going to be crazy today because my family was visiting. And yeah, it's going to be nuts. I love it. But they use the term like party dress. Like, you'll ask somebody like, what's your favorite party drink? Because instead of alcohol, you want to bring something that still feels fun, still feels indulgent, can get you in a mindset where you would want to socialize. And so, to my knowledge, a lot of these started as these kind of like party drinks. You would go to a, you know, a party at, you know, BYU, Provo, not B.

Idaho, but shout out to all my B. Idaho folks out there. But you would have a setup of, you know, coffee make creamers and syrups, grenadine and whatever. And you can make yourself a fun little drink and have something to talk about. Should we talk about soaking? Yeah, we can talk about soaking. Tell the people what soaking is. Well, I think it's so, they're like, you know, purity kind of culture, you know, which not too dissimilar from southern, like purity culture. I did have a promise ring given to me at one point, and then I had to give it back for certain reasons.

Anyway, I think that, so soaking is. Emily, I've missed you so much. I missed you too. But, oh, by the way, you said you gave away your phlegm Jones necklace, so I made you another one. Get the heck at all, dude. This is so sweet. Let me know if it's too short, though, because I... My buddy Marcus, I gave it to him, and he still wears it.

Yeah, he said he gave it to a friend, and I was like, he just hated it and didn't want to wear it. I really all phone. Send you a picture. Is it too short? Because I can make you another one. I kind of like the choker, the choker. Okay, but I can make it for you longer if you want. I've been watching a lot of like 2003 skateboard-based movies.

Hell yeah. Brink. Brink. Oh my God, what's the other? Okay, no, you keep telling people about it. Anyway, so soaking. So it's like when you just leave it in there and don't move. So somehow that's, you know, better.

I mean, Catholic girls in the South, they just did it in the ass. And that was like, how it has not. That wasn't just in the South. That was also where I was. Yeah. Because we had three, not to derail here, but I think it's unfair to. I put this on Mormons of finding the loophole because where I lived, there were three distinct Christian groups, depending on who you ask.

I know what group I was. Well, but we had the evangelicals and they were Southern Baptist rooted, but they were the megachurch folks. Then you had the Catholics, and then you had the Mormons. And all three of them found their specific loopholes for what they believed that God didn't want them to do sexually. And then you got the Methodists who just finger bang in the back of the church. But everyone's, it's a loophole.

It's all a loophole. Well, no. And the dirty sodas, to pivot this bag, you know, the dirty sodas are sort of like the loophole in not being able to. And not even alcohol. But I got to say, this whole docking thing or docking. Not talking. No, sorry, sorry, soaking.

Like, whatever happened to good old fashioned dry humping. Well, that's the thing. They call it, oh my God, they call it zipper sparking. Why do I know so much they call zipper sparking? That is some, no. Yeah, zipper sparking. It's just dry humping. I hate that.

That is some old people sounding stuff. Your zippers are rubbing against each other. It's called zipper sparking. They're not doing it right. And we're still doing that. And we're still, everyone's out here. And you know what, even this is a great analogy. The way that you're going to have to edit everything from the show. You can enjoy a dirty soda, even if you are somebody who drinks alcohol.

In the same way that you can still enjoy dry-humping, even if you're, you know, in a long-term marriage. It's still fun. Even if you're cool. It's still fun. But wait, do they drink alcohol on the show? Or is it like, no? Logan says no. I think some of them do, because a couple of them seem to have left the church.

But no one really drinks. Then how are they on the show? They don't really... Exactly. That makes no sense. Are you Mormon or not? Is it just secret lives of some ladies? I think like 90% of them are maybe women.

All right, cool. But for the most part, they just drink soda. Like when they have a party and get together, they're always just drinking soda. Yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting when you talk about, you know, I feel like Jews sort of get a pass in this where we're like,

Judaism is the culture and the heritage and the ethnicity and not just the religion. And I guess the ethnicity parts a little bit more complicated. But also, it's an ancient religion. Mormonism is about magic. That said, listen, cult plus time equals religion. That's sort of my official viewpoint here.

You know what I mean? Interesting. Oh, no, you and I have talked about this, and I disagree. But like, I don't know my family's history passed like my grandma's father, right? What he told me. And he was in Lithuania and the... 1840s and started a

abad in South Africa. What's a Shabad? A Shabad's like a religious Jewish school. But kind of like a more orthodox religious Jewish school Learning Center. But they were like ejected from the pogromes in Lithuania because they were Jewish. It's a pogrom, Josh. A pogrom is like a

negative act against the Jews. And there was a bunch of like pogromes where the villagers would riot and kick the Jews out farther and farther to the outskirts of the Russian Empire. But then they were eventually, you know, so I know this like shared history because they were Jewish, Mormons, like, really do have that. If you look up, like, the Mormon massacres in the 1800s, what?

They were, like, tremendously persecuted. And so it's funny because through, I think it's actually South Park in the book of Mormon, you know, Mormons have committed atrocities. Every group is committed atrocities. Every group has had atrocities committed unto them. I don't know. I don't know about the Methodist. So if you're somebody who doesn't actively, actually Methodist kind of.

We kind of are cool. Like, I don't know. But if you're somebody who is ex-Morman having that Mormon culture and upbringing still sort of like in your bones and in your family story. It's still very powerful. Because there are communities of like... Big time. And it's a very community-based thing.

We got to drink some damn sodas here. All right. We got to drink some damsoas because we're going to go through some of the Mormon wives dirty soda orders. First up, we got Demi Engman's order, sparkling water, sugar-free coconut, raspberry puree, coconut, coconut cream, fresh lime. Ooh. This sounds tremendous.

And I've been told that Demi has been given the villain treatment in the edit. And is that true? Is that Demi? Demi, I think you are an equally complicated human to anybody else. This is Demi. Maybe Demi. Is it just like a qualification that you have to be stunningly beautiful to be a Mormon? I'll tell you what.

Most Mormons stunningly beautiful, though. They all worked at the Golden Spoon Frozen Yogurt shop near me because it was Mormon-owned. And they were all just gorgeous. And so that's what kept you going to Golden Spoon as opposed to Yogurtland. Maybe it's the soda. Cool. You know, I pitched the Moor for this, the Good Mythical More for this, and I did look up some of their orders, and I don't remember any of it. This is crazy.

This is so fun. It is fun. It is fun. This is like mocktails that you do during dry January, which I ain't doing that no more. Okay, we got pineapple. Is there pineapple in this? No. Coconut cream.

Okay, fresh lime, so I can watch sugar-free coconut. I can do the lime. With the sugar-free coconut Sugar-free coconut cheese and rice Annalise, thank you so much for producing this Yes, Annalise This is what a treat Annalise went out and got all the stuff

Hell yeah I think we're just dropping the lime straight in there Let's have fun I want to get the essence of the lime in there And then Got some sort of coconut cream Hell yeah, dude This coconut cream, this is all guargum in it

You're doing a super duper Like Californian accent And I'm super duper Nashville today Hell yeah, dude That's what you sounded like This is really God this is literally all cellulose gel Cellulose gum and carrogenin in it

There's no coconut in here What's wrong with cellulose gum? It's just it's not like from a health perspective It's just like I think it makes it taste bad I think it gives it a weird texture Whereas if this was There's a coconut on it right It's a thickening agent or something

It's a thickening agent so basically it's a way to cheapen it So you proud of me that I said that Wait dude Thickening agent? Did you learn something from a years of cooking together? Yeah from the years Do you know how many years you and I have been doing stuff together? It's been like seven years.

It's been seven years. It has. Isn't that crazy? Hey, dude, it's been nice knowing you. It's like, this is the last day. Thank you. But yeah, it's pretty crazy. I was thinking about that the other day and just like, geez, we got history.

That's a longer relationship than I've ever been in. Yeah, I've been with you longer than I've been with my wife. That's so funny. Oh my God. This is delicious. This is the best thing ever tasted in my goddamn life. Whoa.

Here's the thing. Somebody needed somebody needed to adjust soda jerk culture into the modern age. You know what I mean? Someone needed to bring it back because we look at those like

every time you watch a movie from the 50s, right, don't think about all the other social problems that were going on. You see someone at a soda fountain and you go that looks like a rips that looks like a good time. Riverdale.

Riverdale. I've never seen it. But, well, I saw a couple of... You should watch it. It's crazy. It's weird. But somebody needed to, like, revamp that culture. And, you know, we kind of tried to do in the serial bars in the mid-2010s.

You know what I mean? You ever go to one of those? No, I didn't. But I did go to... There was a cool movie theater that was like a Dine-in movie theater in New York called Nighthawk. I think it's still there. And on... They did in L.A. too.

Oh, really? Nighthawk exists? Holy cow. But you see that? Didn't swear. And I... But on Saturdays... or Sundays, there would be brunch

like cartoons, like vintage cartoons, and they had a boozy cereal bar where you could like put a shot of bailey's in your like cocoa puffs like bowl. I did that and then I found out that I really don't want that. Oh yeah?

Yeah. Fair enough. Like boozy milkshakes. Do you want a one-shot cocktail but it's 1100 calories of mostly dairy? Yeah, you're right about that. And then go out. Yeah, for sure. There's just something about spring that makes me want to reset everything, you know? The longer days, the fresh air, it feels like the perfect time to start something new.

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I'm an actor. I always say actor. Acting. I did a video for a little sponsored ad on my Instagram, and it was a lot. And somebody, all the comments, there's two, I'm a master thesbians. And I'm an actor, like, gifts underneath it. And I'm like, dang it, yeah, I was overacting a little. But I have fun.

What was the integration for? Give them some free press. A CW show called Wild Cards. I saw that. You interviewed people. I did. Nice, dude. They cut out all the stuff where I was weird.

I was so nervous. Like, I had a... You interview people, like, really well. Thank you. And I am not very good at it. Nor do I want to be. But I will do it if you pay me. But yeah, it's a hard.

It's hard. It is hard, yeah. You have to, I think, manufacture a certain sense of, like, hypermania and trust that you're, like, the most interesting person in the world. But then after, like, an hour and a half of faking it, you just completely crash. Well, but also you want to make them feel like they're the most interesting person in the world. That's really the job, which it's like you've got to think about how many questions have they already been asked constantly. Yes. That's why you listen to every interview that they've ever.

I did the same thing with them. Like, I listened to a bunch of interviews, and the actor in it, Jacamo Giannati, who's very handsome, and that was kind of disarming. His last name, I'm not sure if I still said it right, because every interview I watched, they said it different. Yeah, you've got to find a clip of him saying it. Yeah, well, I didn't, I couldn't find it. And the actress, the actress Vanessa Morgan, I was right after I said their names, I went,

did I say that right? I watched so many interviews, and everyone says it different. and she goes, I want to stop them every time. And I was like, okay, did I say it okay? And he goes, eh. I just can't wait to have Zoe Saldana on the show so I can correctly say Zoy Saldania. Oh, is that the way she's... It's just, it's not an N, it's an N.

Oh. And she's even said before. She's like, yeah, it is. It's Saldania, but, you know, I don't stop people when they say Saldana. That's cool. You know? Anyways, okay, Taylor Frankie Paul, this sounds like my deal. Oh, there's lime.

There's lime. Oh, yeah. I feel like the lime ruins it for me. Well, I will say it does create like a little bit of a curdling. Well, I'm wondering if that's just the random, if that's the weird gums and stuff. That might be it. Because that was, there's no dairy in what we put in here, yet it has still curdled. I put fake creamer in my coffee and I don't know if that goes bad or not.

So it's real chunky, the one that's in my refrigerator right now. I hate that. I should probably throw it away. Dude. But I can't find the expiration date. I have talked to many people's iron discussed about the concept of, of Pilk. What?

Which is, or, I believe it's a very niche South African thing. Please, somebody from South Africa, tell me if this is real. It's called a brown cow, and it is cola mixed with milk. I grew up drinking it from my South African mother. Uh-huh. And I would, that was the thing. And then people say, Josh, Pilk is disgusting. But this is just Pilk.

This is soda and milk. And that's a wonderful combo. Creamy and bubbly, it's great. Well, I mean, it's essentially a float. Like you said, soda shops. Okay, Michaela Matthews. Huh? Gorgeous, stunning hair.

Why is there... One more thing. Why is their hair all like that? It's beautiful. Yeah, it's called like... I don't know if there's a... Hair's everything. A lot of...

Women in Utah have this very specific hair, which is the long, curly extensions. It's curled back... Right away from the face. Exactly. So they all have very similar hair, and that's a very big thing in Utah. I love it.

It's Disney Princess hair. Stunning. Utterly stunning. Ooh, this is amazing. How many of them wear garments? What? I know at least one of them does. Garments are a sign of your covenant to God.

They are imbued with His will, and so they must be the closest thing to your body and heart at all times. What does it look like? I'll show you. Okay, we got Diet Coke with fresh lime and sugar-free coconut. This is some Mayflower shit. This is so weird. This garment.

We're looking at the garment. This is effectively like Diet Coke, coconut. Lime. This is kind of like a... I love this. A version Cuba Libre. Eh, just tastes like a soda to me. Yeah, this is a little bit too close. It's like a Coca-Cola freestyle machine soda. Of course, it's refreshing.

Without the cream, I feel like if I'm dirtying up my soda, I want some dairy in there, you know what I mean? Or just maybe put a scoop of like a barata in there. Ooh. You know what I mean? Just give me like a diet. No, here to me out. Give me a Diet Mountain Dew, a pack of nerds,

some sugar-free coconut syrup, almond milk. And then just a... Nerds. A ball of barata with some pesto. Do you have some barata in the building? Let's do it. I know you've got it. I want to put the straw through the barata and then just...

Gross. I've got to say the second one is my favorite so far. Taylor Frankie Paul. It tastes the way that Plato smells. It really does. You know when you open the Play-Doh? It smells amazing. That is exactly what this tastes like.

Yeah, Dr. Pepper with the coconut cream, the vanilla cream, and the fresh lime from Taylor Frankie Paul. That's the one. We're moving on. We're going to go on to Whitney Leave It. How do we feel about Whitney Leave it? Did a beautiful dance.

A beautiful dance. You mean I'm dancing with the stars? But then, Annalise, this is all Annalise shed this to me. But then Whitney got eliminated from Dancing with the Stars. Before she could do her freestyle, which, as I've learned,

is a thing they do on Dancing with the Stars. I don't watch it. Annalisa is nodding affirmatively. They do. Oh, we got to Dancing with the Stars head here? And then Whitney went on Alex Cooper called her daddy.

And Alex produced an entire, an opportunity for Whitney and her partner to do this, like shot very, very beautifully. Most of cost of fortune to produce that on like an empty soundstage, beautiful cinematography and camera work. Wow. Wonderful. I hope they had like a sponsor for that because that's incredible. So yeah, Whitney, big fan. So you know about Whitney? I've never seen, you and I both, I believe, watched half an episode of the show.

Yeah, it was tough. There's just so many shows to watch. And I'm like 13 hours into the pit right now. I got to really grind on that, dude. I think I just have a tough, oh, the pit. Riding on the pit. I think I just have a tough time with reality shows like that in general. I think I never really engaged or understood it.

My favorite reality show is Rock of Love, and it will always be Rock of Love. Is that Brett Michaels? Yeah. It was just like, I don't know, it had a theme to it. It was like, you know, there was kind of rock and roll, like, themes to it, you know? A lot of drinking. And, but other stuff is just, you know, they're just couples hanging out kind of thing. Yeah.

And for me... Do you think the audiences have become completely gender segregated, or at least in terms of gender performance? What do you mean by that? Dudes don't watch it. I don't think that's true. Women do. I think dudes watch it. And I think it's just like you're not supposed to admit you watch it maybe.

But I think that dudes watch it with their girlfriends or partners or wives. because it's fun. There's like a whole thing about dudes masculinizing it. Is that a word? By creating brackets. Oh, yeah. Like fantasy football.

Yeah. And like with the Bachelor and stuff. And I think that's kind of cool. But yeah, I've never been into it. I tried to watch Love Island. I've tried to watch Love is blind. I just... Sugar-free peach.

I can't get into it. It just isn't fun. There's a lot of soups in Whitney's drink. There's a lot of stuff going on. So that was peach and what else? In vanilla. And then we're going to go in,

and this is a sparkling water base. So these are the flavors that we're going with. Yeah, raspberry puree. Ooh. That's going to be fun. Make it red. And then sugar-free pineapple as well. That's so fun.

I don't know. This might be rough for me. This is a lot. Shoot. Just every fruit. I don't know how much of each we're just really going. And then lime. Did I miss anything?

A lot of fresh lime and all this, which is interesting. When is a lemon going to come into play? Only one person has a lemon, but it's kind of just a Diet Coke with lemon and lime. And I've now, destroyed my laptop with lime juice. Fresh lime is, yeah, it's the last thing.

Yeah, we got it. Okay. All right. So no milk in this one. No milk in this one either. But this one, this is kind of given Shirley Temple vibes. Love a Shirley Temple. With raspberry, lime, all the fruits that should just create like a two-de-fruity vibe.

Ooh, I like it. It's like a gummy worm. It's interesting. It's a gummy worm. It's got so many fruit flavors that you're really distracted from any of the individual. ones. Yeah. Also, the vanilla is giving that little, like, um, kind of just like artificial extract

baseline going on. Like, you know, you're drinking something that isn't quite real. Yeah. But I like it. I feel like this is the closest thing to, like, a soda that could be bottled. Yeah. Also, this ice is amazing. Do you think this type of ice is like that is the ice they put in all their stuff?

So I believe you can order different kinds of ice at these dirty soda shops. You can get pebble ice. You can get all these different things. What's the ice that Sonic has? So that's pebble ice. So this is. Chick-fil-A ice. We literally got this ice from Chick-fil-A. Oh. And they just sell it. And so pebble ice, we wanted to get... We wanted to get... To make the Mormon sodas, we needed to get ice that was associated with religious dogmatism.

Oh, I see. So we went to Chick-fil-A. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that's how we keep the authenticity. You know, I think, you know, there's many issues with Chick-fil-A, but there's also... The fact that they're not open on Sundays, I think, is anti-Christian. And I'll tell you why. Good. Because after church, you're supposed to eat fried chicken. That is an... after church meal. And that is how you praise the Lord. And they are not open on Sundays. Therefore, I think they are not true Christians. I know you don't work on the Lord's Day, but I'm sorry, you got to let the people who didn't work on the Lord's Day, praise the Lord, and you need fried chicken to do so. That's a good point. Okay. Should we go, how do you, Macy Neely? Should we go Macy Neely, diet Coke, fresh lemon and lime? That sounds so boring. But we, listen, we have the ingredients.

Make one more. There's another one. I know what that tastes like. What else do we got? We got Layla Taylor and Miranda Hope. They do a water-based drink with strawberry puree, sugar-free vanilla, sugar-free coconut, and coconut cream. Miranda Hope sounds like a superhero. But from one of those, like, CW shows in the early 2000s. For real. You know, they didn't have the budget.

They had the same, like, graphic package that Charmed did. Oh. Did you watch Charms? I'll tell you what. Every day in the gym, there's a bank of, like, 12 TVs, and I'll warm up on the treadmill, and there's, like, three that are on ESPN. one that's on Food Network, two that's on news, and then Charmed. What?

Charmed. They must be on, like, TNT or something, because there's basketball games at night. TNT, man. And TNT, I think, is playing Charmed for, like, three straight hours in the morning. That's amazing. So I'm just, like, watching. And you'll see some, you know, some, like, actor that, like, blew up 12 years later. I'm like, is that just, like, Will Arnett playing a demon or something?

I mean, people used to be able to get a sag card by doing, like, just a walk-on role for, you know, certain shows like that. I wish there's more of that. I got a 60 cent check in the mail from SAG. Hell yeah. I've made it. Do you know, I've done one thing that I get residual checks for? And just like every couple months I'll get a check for like $1.24.

Really? What for it? To Jennifer Hudson show to promote the cookbook. Oh, yeah. That's so cool. I went on and I, it was very cool. She was wonderful and I got to, yeah, I made her, she like loves mustard. So we made her like mustard ice cream and she was stoked on it.

Dude, she's like Jordan Myrick. And just like Jordan Myrick, you know? Wow. Except Jordan Myrick, don't send me checks for $1.24 every six months in strange intervals. Yeah, Jordan Myrick, why don't you send us checks? I'm making my ideal Mormon soda here. This is what I want to do. I think Diet Dr. Pepper is the best soda that's in the game.

It really is the best diet soda, I'd say. Hey, Josh, I think we should swap workout playlists. Yeah? Sometimes. And, like, we can't stop. We've got to play it all the way through. Do you create a playlist? Yeah.

I never really do. I have a warm-up playlist. and then I have my running playlist. And I put it in order of like the half hour that I'm on the treadmill. I normally just, I've been a big fan of listening to whole albums. Wow. That's cool. Yeah, it'll kind of carry it through a workout.

I know. I listened to, I can't remember the name, but like Infected Mushrooms 2007 album. If you remember Infected Mushroom? No, I don't know what that is. They were like before EDM, it got before we really used the term EDM and it got all like big and dancing in the 2010s. There was like, you know, like electronic techno, house music. An infected mushroom was the one that like your brother's weird, older coworker would show you. And you'd go, what is this sound?

I'm definitely going to check it out. Yeah, or like the prodigy, the fat of the land. Prodigy, man. Do you listen to that whole album? It's incredible. You got lost in it. Yeah, I'm definitely going on a nine-inch nail, like, nails terror right now. But Carpenter Brute is like my favorite band.

So I'm going to go see them in, I forget when they're, I think they're in May. In May, they're coming to town. But yeah, we should swap workout playlist because I want to listen to what you're listening to. I'll do it tomorrow. I'll send you a playlist tomorrow. But can I send it to you on Apple? Can I do that?

I don't do Spotify. I've made my ideal Mormon dirty soda. This is for when I finally take the plunge and commit to the faith. All right. I think I might want to make mine. I have about a two to one ratio of Diet Dr. Pepper to Sparkling Water because I think it gets too sweet when you're doing the syrups with the Diet Dr. Pepper. sparkling water cuts a little bit.

Okay. And I've added pineapple and coconut. I like the idea of the tropicality. Add a 24th and 25th flavor to the Dr. Pepper. I don't want any additional acid

in there because I think there's enough acid in Dr. Pepper. So none of that. Then a little bit of half and half for just the richness of the actual cream and then some of that vanilla cream because I want the artificiality. Wow.

I want to try this. You really chug this. Yeah, that's the best thing of their taste in my life. He's like gulping it. You know what this needs a salted rim. Just a little bit of that salt to kick up the flavors of all the other ingredients.

It's delicious, a little too creamy. A little too creamy, yeah. I went a little heavy. A little bit more soda water. We got more diet. Did we cut some more DP? Stir that up? DP.

When I first started working on sets and people casually used it during D.C. Yeah, director of photography. That's funny. I'm so sticky. I'm having so much fun. We talk about D.P. And then he's like, I'm so sticky.

Wait, what hat is that? Is that one of our hats? Is that a mythical thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dang, that's a gorgeous hat. It really is. Also, I really regret that, yeah, everyone buy the new Willett-themed hat. It's just a really great hat and I wear it a lot.

It's a nice hat. I love embroidery. Like, I think that really elevates everything. That is great. Right? I fudged up. I was wearing this hat driving on a coastal road trip up California. Everybody recognized you on the road?

No, it's not that. That's not where this is going. I'm driving through a town that is called Willits. W-I-L-I-T-S, Willets, California. It's like up in Mendocino County. What? I know, and I was just like, I'm going to say,

I should have gotten out and taken a damn picture next to the sign. But the problem is I really had to pee. And I was already annoying Julius so much, but I having to pee. Imagine, the marketing. But I literally, I like, eventually ended up in Sacramento

and I'm hanging out with a friend who's like from NorCal. He looks at my hat and goes, do you get that hat in Willits? I was like, what? He goes, yeah, like the town Willits? I was like, no, it's a merch piece. Wait, you need to talk about the hat that a fan sent you.

What if I told you I'm wearing it in the next podcast episode, do I shoot? Yes! Yes! We'll talk about the hat. Do we learn anything about ourselves about the secret lives or of Mormon wives? I'm going to be on... Oh, I know that I've learned that I got hate in my heart this episode, and I need to release it. And I'm so sorry.

I'm going to release that. Boy, the aftertaste of the one you made a little bit pepto. Oh, God. Does I have a clear favorite? The second one. Taylor Frankie Paul, for sure. I think you are a woman of class or taste. Come on the show anytime.

Is that the second one? That is the second one. The first one is the second. The first one that we had, that was also, I realized, Demi, villain, sorry. Demi. Demi. Yes. Demi.

Demi. Demi's, is really nice, too. But Taylor Frankie Paul's. And Taylor's drink is also Jesse and Jen's. Oh. Is there like a, they do clicks with the drinks? They're like getting clicky with the drinks. I don't know.

Maybe. They're clicking in general. aren't they? I mean, yeah. Yeah. You could say that. Yeah. I don't like that.

She did say that. That they're clicky? They're clicky. Yeah. I heard they're clicky. Yeah, that's not a culture that I like, cliquiness. I think that that's, I experienced the worst part of that in my lifetime. It was like never got to be in a clique.

Just on the outside of all the cliques. I think what we learned, I'm a pretty staunch advocate for like cultural relativism. You know, I think we're all humans just trying to sort of. have reached the same goals, family, community, happiness, health, and, you know. Invite me into your clip. Sometimes people dig up tablets that only they can read and they're 17 years old. But again, everyone's trying to. And you can judge people by the worst of their culture or religion or the best or the median.

I want someone to say, get in, loser. Anyone, I think any problem that exists within one group, I think roughly exists within the problems of another. And, you know, I just think this is a beautiful cultural addition to the canon. All right, Emily, we've heard what you and I have to say. Now, it's time to find out of the little whack. Eddie is rattling out there in the universe. It's time for a little segment we call. Opinions are like casseroles.

It's still so sticky. Oh, yeah. Thank you for all the hard work and trying to unstickify the table. It has not worked. I got to be honest, there's like, you know, when things get sticky and the dirt kind of cakes into the stickiness? I think there's dirt on my skin that I didn't know about, and I don't know why that is. You're like a fly trap. No, Annalise, save it.

We'll be sticky for the podcast. I swear to God, I showered. Let's give it that first opinion. Hi, I'm calling Sarah from New Orleans, Louisiana. Hey, Sarah. It's obviously the best food city in the world. It really is. It's at least up there.

It's kind of happened in its king cake season. And obviously, you know, native New Orleans, I eat so many kingcakes all the time. And my hot take is that they're actually not that good. I have tried every single kingcake there is to try and I just think they're so overrated I'm kind of curious to hear like any takes on that like is the hype just because of the Mardi Gras season or am I just missing something?

Yeah. Love you too. I love you. So the hot take is a cake with a plastic baby inside of it is bad. I like, sorry. Yeah, I bet it is. But is there something unique about a king cake's flavor? Is there something different about it?

No, it's a sheet cake, right? No, it's not, though. So a sheet cake would be like a cake batter, which is like raised with baking soda or whatever. Okay. A king cake is like 11 bread. It's like a sweetened brioche yeast cake, I believe. I've had a couple of king cakes.

I made a king cake. In like fourth or fifth grade, we had to do a state report. You had to pick a state and like do it. And I took Louisiana just because I liked watching Emerald and making Cajian food and stuff. Yeah. And so I made like a king cake. And yeah, I mean, it's kind of, it's one of those things that you have to eat sort of in context. It's like a Danish pastry cake, isn't it?

Is that kind of what I'm remembering? I haven't had one. It's so long. I don't really remember it. I'm pretty sure a king cake is like a brioche almost. It's just like a kind of crusty sweet pastry, right? Yeah, that is good. Okay, so it's overrated.

Is there icing on? I think it's 11 bread. Yeah, there's icing on the cream cheese frosting and then the like purple and yellow and green. The sugar, like the granulated sugar kind of on top. And king cakes tend to be rolled. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a yeast dough. Yeah, it looks a little dry, I'd say. Yeah, it's one of those things that you sort of have to enjoy in context.

Yeah. A Mexican concha. You got a Mexican concha? Is that that dry shit? It's the dry pastry, yeah. I got to tell you, I love everything else about Mexican food. These ones. Y'all's past, I'm sorry.

Like, every time I have a lot of Mexican grocery stores and bakeries in my neighborhood. And I've tried all those, and it's like sawdust comes out of my mouth. And I'm like, why is this so bad and then everything else you make is so good? Like, why? It's so dry. Y'all know what butter is? Like, come on, I know you know. Um pocaremantakiya, porvapor.

No, but I kind of used to feel the same. And then I had it with just like a cup of like cafe de oil with lece, like a cinnamon coffee with some milk in there. And dipping this, it's like the dryness allowed from the concha, a lot. allows it to soak up more than milky coffee. And it's just like delicious. It's not even dipping it in every time, but like drink some coffee. And then have some of that. And it's wonderful.

Yeah. Trisletche's cake is amazing. That is true. Like, I'll give you all that for sure. But your baked goods that you get from a bakery, like be a donut. Like, do you know what I mean? But also, Flon is amazing. I love Flan.

Tons are great maxim desserts. Yeah. Yeah, King Cake. French Galette de Wa. I'd say a French galette de Waugh is a tasteier the Kinkake. It's the same thing. Hide a baby Jesus in it. I don't know what holiday. Is that what the baby is?

It's Jesus. It's Jesus, right? Yeah, yeah. What the fuck? Why is Baby Jesus in the gate? Yeah, Galeta Wa is just the French version, but a puff pastry with almond, with a marzip pan in the middle. And I love that. Oh, I love. And then

whoever chips are two. Princess cake is my favorite cake. It's the greatest cake ever made. It's the greatest cake ever made. But I don't understand why we're choking on plastic baby Jesus in the cake. That is wild. I don't understand it at all. I understand. Like, communion is crazy enough.

At least that's delicious. You know, Jews do a thing where we hide a piece of matza around the house called the Offie Komen. And like, we send children on a scavenger hut to like find the hidden matzah. That's like Easter eggs for you guys. Find the stale bread. It's just to,

all it is, it's just trying to occupy children so they leave you alone. I think that's every, everybody has a tradition for that. Yeah. New Orleans, you have bananas foster. You invented that. You know, you got the proleens down there, the bignets.

You got enough good desserts. You can handle one day a year. You have to eat a kind of dry cake. That's also beautiful and fun. With a human baby inside of it. That's fine. If that's the price you pay for the gombos and the et tufees and the poboys and also I've had the best bun me in my life in New Orleans. Really?

You know, well, until I got beat by one in New York. But at the time, New Orleans, yeah, one of the time. New Orleans, yeah, one of the greatest food cities in the world. Like, you're chill with it. One of the coolest cities ever, too. Oh, God, I had the best, like, smoke duck. Shout out to Toops, meatery. Shout out to Chef Isaac Toops down there in New Orleans.

Ooh. Just as a whole smoked duck. It really is the best food city. I've only been once, and it was for St. Patrick's Day. Wild. Wild. And I saw a live sex show. Incredible.

Incredible. With Irish people? I don't know if that was what they were. What color was the hair? I don't remember that part. Shaved, huh? I remember how it smelled. I'm so sorry for coming on this show today.

I'm so sorry. So yeah, the beautiful Christian history behind the King King. Sorry, next opinion. Hello, Josh, Nicole, and Meggy. All three of us. Kind of hot food opinion. It's actually not an opinion. It's more of an objectively disgusting fact.

Me and my buddies like to drink. I came on the right episode. And every so often we'll make a bet with each other. And it's not a money bet or anything like that. It's a bet that they have to take a certain shot called a smoker's cough. You never heard of this one. Oh, God. With a dollop of mayonnaise.

Tough. No, stop it. I can't listen to the rest of this. Tough. Not a single person. I know. I want to take this shot without losing their lunch, so to speak. Yeah.

I can do it. I can do it. I would really like to see somebody else to have their take on this shot or if there's anything even crazier that you guys have heard of, I'd love to hear your opinion. Golly, man. Golly. Diabolical.

Emily, what if I told you? We have the ingredients to do this. No, uh-uh. We're not, n'uh. I swear to God, if you had that. I mean, I won't even drink Yeager. Oh, I love a Yeager. I love a Yeager.

It's a Fernette for 19-year-olds. Well, I mean, we like Furnet. I like Fernet. Yeah, yeah. That was a fun experience. Yagers, I showed up to freshman year orientation with a handle of Yeager and three cases of, like, bootleg monster.

that I don't think ever hit the market. I bought him in a parking lot of El Toro High School. Was it that? No, one, like, okay, one was the monster BFG, the big freaking can. If anyone remembers that, it was like 32 ounces. Just nuts. But literally, like, these monsters that never came out, but I bought them illegally in the El Toro High School parking lot

from someone whose mom worked for Monster, and she, like, stole a bunch of cases of Monster and was selling him out of her car to like fund tickets to my chemical romance. Love that. If that is not a snapshot of my god's childhood. And you know that that mom has a smoker's cough. Jesus Christ. That is a.

What a tremendous word selling. Also for anybody that's wondering, El Toro High School, yeah, one of the most famous skateboard spots in the entire world. There's like a, it's something like a, it's like a 12 set. It's just these big set of stairs. Did you say like every skate. Yeah. I mean, not at that level.

I skated more when I was like 12, you know, from like eight, What kind? Like you could you do like kickflips and that stuff? Kick flip was about the top of my level. I could kickflip, I could allie, I could board slide, I could hit a 50-50 on a really small rail.

That's cool. A couple no slide, tail slide. I took rollerblading classes. Can never tray flip. Wait, we got to figure out a worse shot for this person's body's steak. I mean,

Jesus Christ. The classic like cement mixer would be the OG, right? What is it like? Just like bailey's and lime juice? But it's something that it just curdles in the cheese. That sounds like what we just drank. as a liquor. We,

I'm trying to think there was something it's a bit of a It's not a shot but Boone's Farm was like my first drink the blue Boone's Farm You and Catherine Haunt

Oh I love her She drank a lot of Blue Boons Farm But yeah I drank a whole blue bottle of Boons Farm And I think That counts as a shot

And it is gross We were a buzzball household And they got the Milk of Hall ones now too I saw somebody Walking on the street with a giant buzz ball just walking down the street

and I was like, hell yeah. We used to make a shot that was Tapatio, orange juice and vodka. That sounds good. And it had an unfortunate name. But which we,

as a pro-choice podcast, it was called the abortion. All right. And because it would make you... You had to drink it while falling down the stairs? No, make you sort of abort every...

Damn it. Everything that you had inside of you. Oh, okay. And so we did that. Logan went. Oh, I'll tell you a shot. Delete. Delete.

I'll tell you a shot that we used to do a quick little other Another snapshot in a 19 year old Josh's life We would play this drinking game It's most similar to beer die But we called it Snappa and Santa Barbara I don't know what beer dies Beer die you have four glasses At each corner of the table

Two verse two You throw a dye really high in the air And you try and land it in the glass It's not going to land in the glass That's very hard but the die hits the table And then it's going to like Shoot hopefully through the glasses And you have to catch it before it hits the ground

And if you don't catch it that's a point Really fun You could just spend hours playing this but we would have a giant bowl of like salsa with chips around it in the middle of the table. Yeah. And if you landed the dye in the salsa, you had to take a shot of half tequila,

half salsa. So like chunky, you know, we had the, we were in college of the gallon Costco thing of salsa. Oh, man. So equal parts tequila and salsa was always fun. You could easily do that with queso.

You have like, casso and screwball peanut butter whiskey. That's, you know? Oh, God. Peanut Butter whiskey with that? I've been drinking a lot of screwball peanut butter whiskey and Diet Coke at dive bars.

I had a whole screwball phase. I had a phase of that. But then I like gained a bunch of weight because of it. Like I just was doing shooters of it. Yeah. And then I introduced my parents to it. And they loved it for a while too. And they showed it to the neighbors.

They're like, we got this new thing to show you. It's called screwball. And the neighbors were like, my God, this is delicious. When we were in Atlanta for tour, do you remember going to that bar where it was like a divey pool hall bar? And like... Was that where the band was playing and stuff? Yes, but earlier when we were there, somebody tried to order an old fashion

from the bartender, which is like three ingredients. Yeah. And the guy goes, none of that fancy shit, only two ingredient cocktails only. You're just kind of like being a D. It seemed mean about it. And so I went up there

and I just ordered the dumbest two ingredient cocktails I could. I'd just be like, hey, give me a screwball and diet. But then it kept escalating. So I'd be like, give me a, you got blue red bulls back there? Give me a blue red bull and bailey's. And then finally, I just see he had a thing of milk.

And I said, give me a Kampari and milk. He goes, what? You said two ingredient max? Yeah, Kampari and milk. You are so fun. And I would just drink every drink in front of him. It was delicious. Thank you.

And eventually I got him to break and he just started laughing. That's amazing. Or you get two different drinks that are all the ingredients of something and just pour it together in front of them. Just go look at that. But I am usually a. two ingredient person anyway. I'm a, I like a cranberry vodka situation, but speaking of things that are like, you know, kind of salty alcohol, I'm, dirty martinis are amazing.

Like, I love, love, love dirty martinis. Maybe there's a dirty martini shot that, and then you got like, um, just gin and olive juice. Gin, olive juice. And maybe you could, um, ground up some bacon and put it in there and some blue cheese and like do a shot with that. Dude, the amount of the fact that blue cheese olives are, I feel like, back in martinis. Oh, yeah. That's, I love it because I'm a sicko, but to me it's just, it's so close to drinking alcoholic salad dressing.

Yeah, it's true. You're right on the razor's edge. Oh, my God, Josh, you're a genius. That is so true. You want alcoholic salad dressing? I mean, I guess I do like that. But, like, there was this bar in Brooklyn called the rookery that's no longer there, RIP. But they had these Bloody Marys that were heirloom tomato bloody marries that were like, they were yellow.

Oh, that's cool. And they were delicious. I'm not a Bloody Mary mix kind of girl. It's just too much. But this was like fresh and you could like taste the earthy, like the earth from it. But it had a whole like chicken finger in there. And like the whole bacon thing. It was amazing.

And I think that is kind of like a crazy ass like cocktail to do. All the like that is a millennial thing. The Bloody Mary's with tons of food in it. Well, I think it was a millennial thing because like Instagram took off. But I went to. Wisconsin, dude. Wisconsin, everywhere around Wisconsin, it's huge Bloody Mary culture,

and I did not know that. Shout to Sobelmans in Milwaukee. But also just the best Bloody Mary's ever had. I did not know Wisconsin played like that. Let's do one more opinion. We got one more opinion. One more. God, that was a good time.

Wisconsin's the best. I've never been. I'm calling from Baltimore. My weird food combo, it's not as much as a weird food combo as much as my struggle meal growing up. Heck yeah. When I was younger, my mother always used to mix white rice with hot dogs.

And she would try to make it like a fried rice. So she'd put it in a pan. She'd throw in some butter. We always had garlic around too. And then she would drown it all in ketchup. So essentially it's like a ketchup. hot dog fried rice situation. That sounds good.

Sometimes she would add seasoning if we had some, salt, peppers, maybe like chili powder. But yeah, that's my food combo. This sounds great. It's sort of like it's got all the food groups in it, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, Trader Joe's has this chimmy-chury rice in the frozen section that is so good. And it just tastes like it's probably got ketchup.

in there kind of thing. But that sounds delicious. I mean, I don't know. I think that sounds good. Sounds very Filipino. Fried rice, ketchup, hot dogs. That reads very Filipino to me in a lot of ways. Yeah.

In a great way. I would maybe replace the hot dog with spam. Yeah. Again, also still keeps it very Filipino. You know, I never had spam until the pandemic. Really? Because. It kind of shocks me, given, like, your dad being just like a kind of boomer.

Country guy. Yeah, yeah. So I grew up with spam from the pandemic. my dad. We think we did the hot dog kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. But like, no, I, because the grocery stores were so crazy in the beginning of the pandemic, it was like, it was insane. I went to liquor stores and got food. Oh, that's so funny. And that's where I got my toilet paper to, because it was like single rolls. Yeah. But they always had spam and like some frozen pizzas and stuff. So I would get spam and I was like, holy cow, this is like amazing. Why have I not eaten this

before? Yeah. And yeah, I love spam. Man, it gets spam crispy, fry the rice and that fat. Eggs, spam. I just watched the movie, Misery. I don't know if you've seen that. I've never seen it. Dude, you're going to love it. But the terrifying character makes a lot of spam, and her food looks amazing.

Wow. Wow. I love that, man. Hot dog fried rice. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm lunch. That means it's time for us to go.

Thank you so much to stop by a hot dog. I'm hungry. I'm lunch. Is that what you said? I'm hungry. I'm lunch. Oh, man. Emily, you got anything to plug for the people?

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