A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - What’s the Best Menu Item At The Cheesecake Factory?

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Today, Josh and Nicole are exploring the extensive menu at one of the Cheesecake Factory and deciding what's the best thing you can order! Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video ve...rsion of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, Josh, it's the month of November, and I think gratitude is one of the things we have to practice. Couldn't agree more. Yeah, I've realized that I'm incredibly grateful for one of my dear friends. She's a girl that I've known since I was five years old, and we kind of ebbed and flowed through each other's lives. But at this point, we're both 31 years old and we've grown up together and I've just seen her glow and blossom and she's always been there for me. And I'm so incredibly grateful to have that kind of relationship that's outside of like
Starting point is 00:00:34 my marriage or like my work or my parents. It's really beautiful to see. When you said, I have a lot of gratitude for, I thought you were going to say me and that's what I find that you don't say. I have a lot of gratitude for, I thought you were gonna say me, and that's what I find that you don't say. I have a lot of gratitude for you, that we can come here and have good times. But you know who we don't have enough gratitude for? All the time.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Who? Ourselves. Ourselves, and that is actually something that I have learned from therapy. It's not only how to have gratitude for myself, but how to have grace with myself, how to have forgiveness with myself, and being given the tools in the framework through therapy
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Starting point is 00:01:35 This episode is presented by Pepsi. A hot dog is a sandwich. That deserves a Pepsi. I read books now. I'm a book girly. What have you been reading? Some light stuff, you know guilty pleasure reading really Josh reading the Cheesecake Factory menu does not make you a book girlie It has over 20 pages and there aren't even that many pictures This is a hot dog is a sandwich Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal. So what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich A hot dog is a sandwich That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:02:04 A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog Is A Sandwich, the show where we break down the world's b-b-bigest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Ayer. And I'm your host, Nicole Inayati. And today we'll be taking on the seminal text of our time. 300 years ago, that may have been Milton's Paradise Lost. 4,000 years ago, could have been the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But now, Nicole, now the seminal text of our times, the Cheesecake Factory menu. Were the two things you said before, those are books? Yeah, technically Paradise Lost is a gigantic poem, I believe. Okay, it's an epic. I don't know if it's an epic per se. Yeah, probably an epic. What was the one you said? The epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh is an epic. That's an epic. You know I know that. In ancient
Starting point is 00:02:54 Sumerian I don't think they said the epic of Gilgamesh. They probably said like Gilgamesh! You know it's like a... Gilgamesh! An exclamation point. No, today we're talking about all about the Cheesecake Factory. We're trying to Yugamish! Yugamish! Like Oklahoma! An exclamation point. Exactly. No, today we're talking about all about the Cheesecake Factory. We're trying to answer the question of is the Cheesecake Factory overrated because... Interesting, interesting. It's very highly rated by a lot of people. I maintain that the Cheesecake Factory, of which there are more than 330 locations nationwide,
Starting point is 00:03:19 is maybe the broadest spectrum of like socio-economic and class ranges that interact with each other. It's like the New York City subway. It's like the bank. Yeah, it's like the bank. Or the post office, I should say. It's like the post office? I don't think rich people go to the post office anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Oh really? I don't know if middle class or low income people go to the post office. When's the last time you went to the post office? I don't know, recently. Really? Yeah. I don't know if I've ever been to a post office. Oh, I love going to the post office. so much stress. What do they do there? They deliver packages for you
Starting point is 00:03:50 I thought you'd go to like the staples and you go to their package center because that's what I think I do okay I'm gonna be honest with you I don't go that much But when I do go I do enjoy because it makes me feel like I it's like almost like going to court for a ticket Like you have to do it like you have to do in order to be an adult Yeah it's like something you should do as an adult is go to the post office Go to court whenever they summon you and eat a cheese cake. Those are three wildly different things
Starting point is 00:04:13 One of those go to court when they summon you Is a legalistic there could be a warrant out for you next time you get a speeding ticket. You could like totally not go Yeah, you could totally do a lot of things that would be against the law. What I'm saying is if you as a regular diner go to the Cheesecake Factory to maybe have a delicious, you know, strawberry mango rita, a slice of cheesecake and a Kung Pao chicken wrap or whatever they got. That sounds like a recipe for vomit, but okay. Sure does.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And that order specifically. You might be sitting next to like a Justin Bieber or a Hailey Bieber his sister You might be sitting next to them at the Cheesecake Factory. Hailey Bieber is his wife? His sister and wife? Hailey Bieber is Justin Bieber's wife. They have the same last name their brother and sister. They're married! I don't understand anyways She's like you'll always see the the most A-list of A-list celebrities eating at a Cheesecake Factory, whereas I don't think you see that with something like a Chili's, the French
Starting point is 00:05:09 French. Or a Aplebes. Aplebes. You love to go to Aplebes. I come here from Latvia. So I have to tell you something about Cheesecake Factory. I used to be the biggest Cheesecake Factory hater, so much so that in 2016 I made a, wait for it, a Facebook post about it.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Are you ready? Oh my god, yes. I have it right here. From February 17, 2016. Disclaimer. If a guy takes you to Cheesecake Factory on the first date slash month of courtship, he is a lackluster f*** boy, f-boy, and you can do better. I don't care how good the brown bread dipped in Santa Fe dressing is, girl, what the F have standards. I wrote Howl Design 2016, if I'm 31 right now,
Starting point is 00:05:52 I don't even know. Eight years ago, 23 years old, that's about the time when you would believe stuff like that. So yeah, do you see, I am so passionate. Like, I called people lackluster F boys for taking girls to the Cheesek Factory within the first month of dating. what is what was going on? One you're gonna get canceled for that. I know I'm so
Starting point is 00:06:11 Everyone shower your hatred on Nicole and it's so crazy because it has number one has 200 likes Oh, that was you at the time. At the time that was like a big deal like people also felt this. It's like your grandfather being like I'm Frank Frider used to be a nickel That was like a big deal. Like people also felt this. It's like your grandfather being like, Frank Frater used to be a nickel. And some people are like, let me tell you, some people are saying like, I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I agree with you. I agree with you 100%. Who dips their bread in Santa Fe sauce? You sicko. The Santa Fe sauce, I imagine, is some sort of ranch dressing with a couple of drops of hot sauce mixed in? No, incorrect.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's a green, it's a wildly green cilantro based dressing with a squirt of peanut sauce almost. It's delicious. I love this. Yeah, yeah. I got some really funny comments, but long story short, I used to be very anti-cheesy. In fact, I hated it. And the reason why I felt that way is because, you know, we live in Los Angeles, and you can, if you wanted to, explore the entire terrain of LA and not eat at a restaurant twice for like two years. Like truly. Like you could eat at a new restaurant every day for 600 plus days and never repeat it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So why would you go to Cheesy Factory? It's just another chain. This was my mentality before. I was like, we can, like you don't need to do that. Like you could do so much better. You know what? There is so much pride in mediocrity, especially with food. Like, when you go to Cheesecake Factory, you know what you're getting.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You know what you're getting yourself into. Like, if I get, I know that when I sit down, I'm going to sit in a booth, I'm going to eat the brown bread, I'm going to have a good time, I'm going to order something delicious, and it'll taste the same, no matter what Cheesecake Factory I go to. And for that, I am now grateful. I couldn't see it back then, Josh. I was marred.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Do you think that that is the wisdom of maturity or do you think we've gone through a big cultural change? Both. Both, right? I think I've grown up as a person and going to a chain restaurant is not a bad thing. Specifically with the cheesecake factory, it's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's fine if it's mediocre. There's nothing wrong with eating mediocre food. You don't need to constantly chase the highs and the lows and the thiss and the thats. Just give me some Fryer Cracker shrimp or salmon with... I'll substitute the the rice for broccoli and you know get a mashed potato on the side and live my life. My big confession here is that I've never eaten a full meal at a cheesecake factory. That's not true. It is true.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You're a liar. It is. It is. Dead. True. Depending on your definition of a meal. You're a liar. You live in a house of lies.
Starting point is 00:08:35 This is the house of lies you have built. I've never sat down for dinner. I've never been like, oh, I'm going to make a rez at the cheesecake factory. I've ended up at the cheesecake factory and gotten drinks and then I've gotten all their little nachis. Oh, you got appetizers. We got appetizers. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But I've never sat down. Like, I've never had an entree at the Cheesecake Factory. It's just never happened for me. I would like to. I've had so many things happen at the Cheesecake Factory. Like what? Give me your top three biggest Cheesecake Factory life moments for Nicole, Inayati, and Mae Hendes on it. Okay, we I have spent many a New Year's dinner there. What the hell? In Beverly Hills. I think the Beverly Hills one is the first one actually. That is the flagship, yeah. It was 1978, the Beverly Hills full restaurant location.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Correct, I believe it's on Cannon or Beverly Boulevard, wherever it is. I've spent many a New Year's dinner at a cheesecake factory. Very proud to admit it. I went on a date there. One of my first dates ever with a boy. What year was that in relation to your Facebook post? 19.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Oh, so this is before the Facebook post. Was he an F boy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll see you, you know. Huge, what a horrible person. I hope you're listening, I hate you. Name him. I can't.
Starting point is 00:09:39 If I do, it's like Beetlejuice. Andrew. And also, I had a huge family meeting where we had to talk about some very serious things over some avocado egg rolls. So I've had a lot of experiences at Cheesecake Factory. A lot. Your Cheesecake Factory is my Sizzler.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Is it now? That was a bit at the Sizzler. Yeah, yeah. Okay, nice, nice, nice. Yeah, the old, hey, visitation rights are gonna be changing. You know, that all went down at the Sizzler it now? Yeah, yeah. The old, hey, visitation rights are gonna be changing. That all went down at the Cesar. Drama, drama, yeah. One of the things I've loved most
Starting point is 00:10:09 about walking into a Cheesecake Factory is the sheer amount of energy. It feels like. Hustle and bustle. Dude, it feels like you're walking into freaking Madison Square Garden. You're so right. Knicks are playing, and we're not talking
Starting point is 00:10:22 about the Knicks of 10 years here, we're talking about the new promising Knicks that are gonna actually make the playoffs hopefully make a run Hopefully take out the Celtics, you know, like you're walking in and there is a thrum Yes, you feel it and that's something super enticing because one of my least favorite things when you're talking about Exploring restaurants that are actually locally owned and unique to the area yada yada. I can't stand being in an empty restaurant You know, I don't like the calm vibes of a restaurant unless that's like part of the deal. It's on Macassay, it's really fancy, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But if you're walking in on like a Friday night, this is gonna be a two, three cocktail dinner. Might be going out after. The place is dead. And it's dead, it's a bummer. Cheesecake Factory, I was walking by a Cheesecake Factory with some friends who like live in kind of like West Side, like South LA. And they were like, oh man, I've always wanted to go get dinner at the Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And it's like, oh, we should book it. We should do it. That sounds fun. And they were like, oh man, can't get a rez for like three months. Yes, it's busy. Oh, three months? What are you talking about? The Marina one.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I don't know. According to them, it's like constantly booked. You can't get a seat at the bar, but that's... I went on a date there. It's not for like the exclusivity, but the fact that I went into a Texas Roadhouse once in Bakersfield, California. That's a good one. Packed to the brim, waited half an hour.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We were like on our way to Tahoe or Fresno or something, but we stopped in and it was bustling and it was full and it was fun and it was lively. And that's like one of the things I want at a restaurant. Cheesecake Factory will always give you that. Which is fun. Yeah, I agree. And it's not like it's busy packed with celebs, no, it's normal people trying to enjoy normal good food,
Starting point is 00:11:53 and they do a pretty damn good job, at least of the tiny little fried bits and bites that I've eaten there. Yeah, so also like, what's your favorite thing to get there, since you've only done the bits and the bobs and the drinks and the cheesecakes, like what do you like from there? My move, I'm always a fan of fried shrimp. What are they? What do they call their friend? I think it's a lot of bang bang shrimp and it's bang bang shrimp the cream fried cauliflower
Starting point is 00:12:12 I always think is great. They got avocado tacos that are lovely Someone always ends up getting like crispy Brussels sprouts, which like perfectly fine, but everything I've had it's kind of like the uh Which is like perfectly fine, but everything I've had it's kind of like The uh oh yeah poke nachos had those those are great. Yeah, they're really good dude. They got an egg roll sampler They have like over 200 items on the menu their burgers are really good. I've never had a burger there Oh, they're Kobe beef burgers phenomenal where we can't just be complete simps for Cheesecake Factory But I am simping but can I tell people what my ideal order is? Go, go, go, go. Okay, so I go and I get myself a nice ice water, all right?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Ice water specifically. I ask for a lemon on the side. And then I get the brown bread and then I get a side of ranch and then also butter. And I eat the bread with some ranch and some butter. And then I get avocado egg rolls. I'm speaking directly to you, human being on the other side of this. I get the avocado egg rolls. I split that with whoever I'm eating with. I get a egg rolls, I'm speaking directly to you, human being on the other side of this. I get the avocado egg rolls, I split that with whoever I'm eating with. I get a Santa Fe salad. The tomatoes, let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:13:09 the tomatoes are so awkwardly cut. It's like what, it's like a quarter of a tomato just slapped on there with like a bunch of tortilla strips. Sometimes I ask for light tortilla strips because it kind of turned into nachos at that point, and like I don't have time for that. And then I get the spicy cashew chicken, I sub the rice for broccoli,
Starting point is 00:13:24 and let me tell you, one of the most delicious things you'll put in your mouth is the spicy cashew chicken, I sub the rice for broccoli, and let me tell you one of the most delicious things you'll put in your mouth is the spicy cashew chicken with the broccoli. It's phenomenal. And then if I'm feeling it, I get myself a little Oreo cheesecake or a classic New York one. I ask for extra strawberry sauce if they have it. I'm looking at their entire menu right now. I have not...
Starting point is 00:13:46 Did you like my frickin' order? What? You said you were talking to them. Did you black out? You said you were talking to them. You said you were talking to right after them. But I expect you to listen when I talk. That's a great order.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I hate you. I hate you! No, the tomatoes in the Santa Fe salad are kind of all weird. It's like a big old quarter of a tomato slapped on there. You get the avocado egg rolls. I was listening to it. Active listener. Have you ever had something called a French dip cheeseburger? Never had it from there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Looks incredible. Long burger. They cut it into segments, dip it in the jus. Long burger? It's a long burger. It's a burger on like a, but it looks like a glazed brioche. It's like a Long John donut. I can't, I don't have that on look at this Well, yeah, cuz you got to like it's searching the Cheesecake Factory menu is like navigating the Dewey decimal system in a You know you gotta go ask a docent to yeah, yeah, schlep you around there, correct, correct Um, I need to actually go there and I want to do like what Keith from Try Guys Dead and just eat every single thing so that would give me a lot more perspective on it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 A thing that I do hate, and maybe there's room to talk about the overratedness here, because right now you and I are just sort of both on board with this. The branding of Cheesecake Factory, it's very strange. The burgers are called glam burgers. Everything seems to be somewhat Egyptian themed. Are you talking about the actual decor? The decor, you walk in there. It's like Michael Jackson's house.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, which are we saying that's a good thing? I don't know, but... Knowing what went on in the house. Do you remember, like, he did that interview with Martin Bashir? Is that his name, Martin Bashir? That's definitely a person, I don't know. And he goes to, like, the antiques, and he goes, I want that one. I like that one.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I want that one. I don't need that one. No, I don't remember that. You don't remember that? I don't think I've ever watched it. It was a watershed moment. I don't think you guys remembered it, let alone remember it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Oh my gosh. He had a monkey. Yeah, he had bubbles. Bubbles. Did bubbles outlive Michael Jackson? I don't know, but what I'm trying to say is, basically it looks like an antique shop, but you are sitting on the antiques. And for some reason they had like 40 of the antiques.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You know what I mean? It's very ornate. It's very ornate. It looks like something out of like Vegas. Like it's like it's like if Vegas is exactly what it is. If Vegas vomited in a restaurant, it would be the Cheesecake Factory. 100% and I don't love Vegas. Vegas actually really creeps me out. You don't like Vegas? Anytime I go to Vegas, I feel- You haven't been to Vegas with me.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I feel so, I certainly haven't. Good times. We should do it and then not tell anybody. The last time I like partied in Vegas, everyone had to like make a pact to not tell anybody. What is it, like the hangover? Someone broke their nose, another person crapped their pant. Like it was just awful, awful, awful.
Starting point is 00:16:28 What? Like it was the worst thing in the world. Well, okay, whatever. You know, and so yeah, we threw the pants down the stair. Ew. Ew! I don't know, it was disgusting. And I've never been back to party.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I went to make a sandwich for Gordon Ramsay once. But the point is, you were transported into a different world, but it's a Faustian bargain, because that different world, everything is fake, and it vaguely steals your soul. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you don't mind it. The sky paintings, and the, what is it, the Bellagio, or the Venetian, or whatever?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. They've made it feel as if you are outside, but you're living in the Truman Show. You stare up, and there's paintings of sky on a ceiling. There's like a guy in a gondola and everyone's trying to sell you something. And that is the vibe of the Cheesecake Factory. ["The Cheesecake Factory Theme"]
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Starting point is 00:17:46 I am craving a big slice of pizza and an ice cold Pepsi for lunch today. Nicole what if I told you you have the power to make that happen? I do? Yeah and you know how I know that? Because you're real real smart. That's one of the reasons the other reason is that I had the same dream that you had except this is a couple days ago we basically live parallel lives but I was craving an ice cold Pepsi and a big old slice of pizza and I was at the airport and I was coming back to LA and so I like really needed some food to get me through that last leg of the journey and I was on the plane. I opened my pizza and the flight attendant came by and I got the free chips
Starting point is 00:18:18 and I got an ice cold Pepsi zero sugar and I will never forget this borderline spiritual experience of eating that spicy from the pepperoni, salty, chewy pizza, going to the crispy chips, and then resetting my palate with ice cold, refreshing Pepsi Zero Sugar, that perfect amount of acid to just cut through all that fat in your palate. And then back to the chewy pizza, crispy chip, refreshing Pepsi, chewy pizza, crispy chip,
Starting point is 00:18:39 refreshing Pepsi, and it made the flight so, so much better. My lunch was absolutely saved. I love story time with you, Josh. It's my favorite. But moral of the story is Pepsi makes your food taste better. Everybody knows that. So grab a Pepsi Zero Sugar for your next meal as food deserves Pepsi. You ever had the blackened chicken pasta from there? Actually, I have had that. I've had that as a to-go order. Yeah, it's really good.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I think at work. It's really good. It is really good. I wanna eat more cheesecake. I haven't had cheesecake in like two years. I would actually really like to go have a sit down meal there. You saw how, you know, Alex and Zoya.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Of course I do. Yes, they're fabulous. They're like this cute lesbian couple. Alex Trager, Zoya Biglari. Incredible. They made a viral salad. I don't know if you saw this. They took a, I believe, a Caesar salad.
Starting point is 00:19:28 They swapped out the chicken, asked for fried chicken on there, and then caramelized onions. And let me tell you, this video of them doing this went viral so much so that they had it on a menu, I believe. Get out of town. How crazy? Get out of town. Isn't that crazy? And it sounds so damn good. the thought of eating caramelized onions
Starting point is 00:19:46 With a caesar salad with crispy ass chicken I don't particularly see the vision, but I do love that they did that and I do respect both of their palates I think they're incredible Analyzing the Cheesecake Factory menu it does seem to have a lot of similarities to Your TG it's no longer TGI. It's just Fridays now, huh? It has a lot of similarities. It's just Fridays now? They dropped the TGI. Yeah. Yeah, what what have they what else? They're taking God out of our restaurants They're taking God out of our schools. I didn't even put that together They really did they took God out of TTF Fridays. Oh God, the cultural decline.
Starting point is 00:20:26 This is not the America my parents came to. TTF Fridays actually had a huge history of being important in the gay community. I had no idea. It was basically a gay club in the 90s. Those potato skins. That's what gets you in the door. What can I say? And it's the voguing that keeps you.
Starting point is 00:20:40 No, there's a great essay that I read about it. But like Fridays, chilies, Apple Applebee's these places that they all serve more than like a sizzler or a Texas Roadhouse or Outback even Vast regional so much really different continental food, right? What kind of kitchen are they are they operating back there? Like how many actual like chefs do they have I? God a probably huge huge staff, but Cheesecake Factory not only do they do so much more Like Fridays they have a giant menu But they're like they really pare it down and they work to pare it down because they're owned by a large corporation
Starting point is 00:21:14 And you know they sort of have to cut costs in that way TGI for sorry Cheesecake Factory 330 locations they do about three and a half billion dollars in revenue per year shut up That's gross not net margins I know are super probably a little super slim But still they're able to like operate 200 plus items at that massive of a return on stores so incredible means they're doing something right I think they're just doing the best version of a Friday's Style food and more and we haven't even talked about the best thing
Starting point is 00:21:46 at the Cheesecake Factory. Cheesecakes? The cheesecakes, dude. I talked about it. You did, I blacked out. I lied to you when I said that. I remember what you said. You lied about being an active listener.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Let me tell you what happened. You lied about being an active listener. You took the part that you wanted to repeat for yourself so you can tell yourself I was listening to her the whole time But all you did was regurgitate a sentence because you're good at remembering sentences I don't want to fight but here we are. What'd you say? Cheesecake factory started out as literally just a factory making cheesecakes in 1972
Starting point is 00:22:21 Well, it started out long before that when I wasn't like Evelyn Evelyn something Factory, but no she was originally just baking cheesecakes for local restaurants in I believe is in Woodland Hills. Yes It's an outskirt of Los Angeles And then her son eventually opened the first cheesecake factory that was serving like little sandwiches in the late 70s And so as cheesecake factory they opened their first location the first Cheesecake Factory that was serving like little sandwiches in the late 70s. And so as Cheesecake Factory, they opened their first location. It was in DC outside of Southern California in the early 90s. That was when we see, if you see a freaking Southwest egg roll, that whatever plates had that in the menu started in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Cause that was the thing, right? It's like fried Brussels sprouts. That was in the 2010s or whatever. Southwest egg rolls was a huge 1990s thing. Right? It's like fried Brussels sprouts. That was in the 2010s or whatever. Southwest egg rolls was a huge 1990s thing. And so Cheesecake Factory like has all of that 90s nostalgia, which is to say food that you just really want to put in your mouth. You know, so they're doing Fridays, they're doing it bigger, they're doing better. And then I think it's also like, I haven't had a better cheesecake. I've had, you know, burnt bass cheesecake, but like an American ass New York cheesecake. Never had one better than Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Do you want to do a little experiment with me right now? Yeah! So what you're going to do is you're going to say the cheesecake and you're going to say if you're going to eat it or not just based off of instinct, okay? We're playing Smash or Pass on this? Yeah! Oh, let's do Smash or Pass Cheesecake Factory Cheesecakes Edition. Triple Berry Bliss. Pass.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Oh, Smash! Oh, you creepo! All right. Original. Smash. Pass. No, I want more. Are you crazy? Fresh strawberry. Smash, smash, smash, smash. You want that but you don't want triple berry. You want single berry. I want single. Triple berry. Too many berries. Well I'll tell you what they did that I think makes it incredible. Have you ever had Chocoflan? Yes. Chocoflan is a chocolate cake with flan baked on top of it. Very good. It's the best thing in the world They have started doing a cake on top of the cheesecake. And so that is what the triple berry bliss is There's a layer. Oh, you didn't explain that you didn't explain. I'm sorry. I was just naming. You should have started with the original. Well, that's what I'm saying. This is this is their legacy
Starting point is 00:24:19 And if they had just been if they had just been a cheesecake factory, which is to say a factory making cheesecakes, it would have been an incredibly successful business because they do a great job. Okay. And they're doing fried eggs and they're Vegas. Okay, this is not a crowd pleaser, this is an acquired taste, which is, I'm still gonna pass. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Interesting, but it's cake. Okay, Oreo Dream Extreme Cheesecake. Smash!
Starting point is 00:24:41 Pass, I hate chocolate and cheesecake. I don't think it goes well. What? Foul with the chocolate, I think it ruins it. I don't think it goes well. What? Sour with the chocolate. I think it ruins it. You're nuts. I love Oreo.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You're nuts. Oh my god, they all look so good. Ultimate red velvet cheesecake. It's got red velvet cake and cheesecake covered in cream cheese frosting. I will, I will, I will pass. They put frosting on the cheesecake. Keep going, keep going. Pass.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Reese's peanut butter chocolate cake. Smash! Smash. No, chocolate. No. Godiva chocolate cheesecake. a chocolate cheesecake pass coconut cream pie cheesecake Let's go smash Adams peanut butter cup fudge ripple Yes, pass cookie dough lovers cheesecake with pecans smash it's Nicole. It's encased in cookie the whole thing is encased in cookie Look at that look at no we're gonna
Starting point is 00:25:19 Do my birth to this God I want I want my body to I hope you can hatch it from an egg. Pineapple upside down cheesecake. Absolutely smashed. This is the best maybe thing I've ever eaten. Is it hot? No, it's cold. I like it cold.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Well, I would microwave it. Go for it. I love it. Ice cold. It is a layer of pineapple upside down cheesecake, more pineapple upside down cheesecake. This is their single best cheesecake. Celebration cheesecake. Vanilla cheesecake, more pineapple up a center cake. This is their single best cheesecake. Celebration cheesecake, vanilla cheesecake, strawberry chocolate, vanilla mousse.
Starting point is 00:25:48 If I was with my niece and nephew, smash, if not pass. Yeah, pass. They have a Basque cheesecake now? Oh! Cheesecake Factory, how do you do it? Dude, geniuses, geniuses. Definitely, right? You gotta try it. I'm gonna smash.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Cinnabon cinnamon swirl cheesecake. Oh, oh, oh, I might pass because I think it might be too sugary. Oh, that's smash for me, baby. Salted Caramel Cheesecake. Pass. Smash. Smash. Toasted Marshmallow S'mores Galore.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Smash, smash, smash. They trademarked S'mores Galore, so if any of you were thinking about naming your child that. Don't trademark. It's been trademarked, babes. S'mores Galore, Levi's Share, come here. Dulce de Leche Caramel Cheesecake. Smash. I bet that's good. White Chocolate Raspberry Truffle. Oh, this's share, come here! Dulce de leche caramel cheesecake. Smash!
Starting point is 00:26:26 That's good. White chocolate raspberry truffle. Oh this is smash, smash, smash. That's smash. This might be the best thing. Just enough chocolate to keep me interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That's a black bottom. Mango key lime cheesecake. Smash! Banana cream cheesecake. I pass. I pass on that. I will pass. I pass on that.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Respectfully. Very cherry girardelli chocolate cheesecake! Very cherry giardelli, yeah, smash! I want Costco guy to say, very cherry giardelli chocolate cheesecake! Oh! Lemon raspberry cream. Smash. Yeah, smash. Chocolate tuxedo cream? Smash. I'll pass on that. Chocolate caramelicious cheesecake made with Snickers. I'm going to smash. Because my standards are slowly, they are waiting. My standards are waiting. Keep going, we have more.
Starting point is 00:27:12 We're wearing down to the end of the night. Last call happens, y'all get lonely. Chocolate mousse cheesecake. Oh, I'm smashing. Yes, lemon meringue cheesecake. I'm smashing. Smash hard. Hershey's chocolate bar cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I'm gonna pass. Pass. 30th anniversary chocolate cake cheesecake. Just for the romance of being together for 30 years, I'm smashing. What is this made in 2008? The 30th anniversary? What the hell? Low... Low... Lowlicious cheesecake. This is low carb, no sugar added, gluten free.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Too good to be true. Honestly, I'm down. I'm gonna try it for science. Lowlicious, I sugar added, gluten free. Too good to be true. Honestly, I'm down. I wanna try it for science. Lowlicious, I will say, not trademarked, so you could name your child lowlicious. Lowlicious. Now there's one with strawberries. Okay, I'll smash.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Vanilla bean cheesecake. 100% yum. Great. Smash. Caramassou cheesecake. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. I'd smash that. Key lime cheesecake. Smash.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Perfect smash. This is fun. Caramel pecan turtle. Cheesecake. Pass. Pass. Pass. I'd smash that. Key lime cheesecake. Smash. Perfect smash. This is fun. Caramel pecan turtle. Um. Cheesecake. Uh, smash. Pumpkin cheesecake. Smash. Pumpkin pecan cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Smash. That looks better. They got the pecan pie filling in it too. Oh, that's done. It's it. And then we're done. Now we're on to their actual desserts. My favorite is a $10 bowl of fresh strawberries. There's strawberries? Those are really high quality strawberries.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I believe you, they do high quality work. That felt really good. Thanks for entertaining me with my silly little ideas. Anytime. I feel like anytime we've discussed whether or not something is overrated, we've always been able to strike somewhat of a balance, right, with these restaurants. You know, Chipotle has as good as it has its bad, yada yada. We're very pragmatic.
Starting point is 00:28:48 We're all about finding the good and the bad. What bad do we have to say about Cheesecake Factory? The decor. Well, not even the decor, but the... It's too big. There's something... The restaurant's too big, the decor is gaudy, the servers are fabulous. Every server I've had there is fabulous.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Same. You know, there's the big business angle, do we want to homogenize restaurants to support local? That's true, but also it's like we live in a competitive marketplace. I want to feel, I'm spending money on my night out, I want to feel something, and I feel love in that cheesecake factory that night. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Sure. I found God in the cheesecake factory. Alright, Pam from the office. I always really liked it. I know it's cool for Gen Z to be like, oh, Pam's a terrible person. I don't know, man. I feel like she's trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:29:31 People don't like Pam now? People used to love Pam. Yeah, who were, what characters from sitcoms are Gen Z retroactively canceling? How old are Gen Z? The one right below us. Trevor's a Gen Z. They hate Pam.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't know. I'm sorry. They maybe hate the wife from Breaking Bad. Oh, Skylar? Skylar. Okay. She was one of the top TV villain of all time. She was the top TV villain? God forbid a woman trying to knock some sense into their husband.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You know what I mean? Is that they're making meth? Is that they're making meth? They're making meth? So what did we learn today, Josh? Is Cheesecake Overrated, Underrated, Perfectly Rated? I think I'm in love with the Cheesecake Factory and I would like to franchise one and have one for my birthday, David. What are you looking at? There's 1,231 chilies. How many Cheesecake Factories is...
Starting point is 00:30:23 Just over 300. We need more Cheesecake Factories. Four times more chilies is... How many Cheesecake Factory's is... Just over 300. We need more Cheesecake Factory's. Four times more chilies. Well, well, well. I think the reason Cheesecake Factory is not overrated is because they've kept it at 300. I think Cheesecake Factory, if they keep expanding, which I don't think they need to per se, I think you could get into a territory where it's saturated, right? Where you've lost the quality control.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But for now, I think Cheesecake Factory deserves every single customer that it gets. Do you think they'll send us a gift card? God, I hope so. Will you send us a gift card? Send me a whole cheesecake, please. Pineapple upside down. What do Ontario dairy farmers bring to the table?
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Starting point is 00:32:03 Now it's time for everybody's second and a half favorite segment on the show. That's right, this is called Review a Review. Before we get to your opinion, Cassarolles, we are going to read reviews that you have reviewed us for our own review on the show. This is indeed to goad you into writing more reviews on Apple Podcasts because we think it helps, we just don't understand how. That's right, we got Just just tried sardines says, hey, I just tried sardines.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I didn't like them at all, not one bit. In the process of throwing them out, I dropped them all over the floor, just thought I'd let you know. Additionally, I wanted to inform you on my new breakfast creation. I really like sausage patties, but I'm trying to cut down on fat.
Starting point is 00:32:42 So I made patties out of ground turkey. I threw Louisiana hot sauce and sugar-free maple syrup on them and boom, breakfast has been served. Would you do this? Also, thanks for entertaining me for who knows how long. Cheers. You said their name is Just Tried Sardines. Their name is Josiah Jones. Yeah, I don't know how to read sometimes. It's okay. I give this five stars just for the sheer boldness and understanding that, you know, you don't always need to tell us how you feel 100% of the time. No.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I like the fact that the last sentence says, but for the most part, you're just telling me about your day. And you know what? I'm really proud of you because you tried something new, you didn't like it. It fell over your floor. Josh, I'm speaking. So sorry. It fell over the floor.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You cleaned, I mean, I assumed you cleaned it up and You just you just got over it and guess what you made you made a decision to cut down fat and you made yourself a bomb Breakfast and you know, this is just how life should be Sometimes the sardines fall on the floor. Sometimes you eat them and you don't like them, but you know what you always get up Life goes on and you make yourself a little fat breakfast patty. Is it my turn to talk yet? Sure. I like the sausage. All right, Maggie, fire up that review. Nicole, I do listen to you.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Fire up the opinions. That's what I meant. Where's your brain today? What's wrong with you? So many other places. What's wrong with you? So. Focus.
Starting point is 00:34:03 So many other places. Focus, grandpa. Oh my god. What's wrong with you? So. Focus. So many other places. Focus, grandpa. Oh my God. You're like Joe Byrdin right now. Hey y'all, this is Scott from Falls Church, Virginia. And I'm calling because.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So I had a revelation the other day. I got food from this one restaurant nearby me called Celebrity Deli, and I saw on their menu they had a kimchi Reuben. And I had it and it blew my mind. And I realized kimchi is better on a Reuben than sauerkraut. That's the old, that's the old. Think about it, think about it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You know you want to. Thank you all for everything. Y'all make my day. Every day. Much love to y'all. Keep rocking. Peace. So cute. So I googled, so I googled Celebrity Deli, authentic New York, New York Jewish deli in a Falls Church VA, which is Virginia. Mm-hmm. That's correct. I think, I'm guessing this is the same place. Yo, that's definitely it. Why would it not be? He said he's from Falls Church and went to Celebrity Deli. Do you think there'd be multiple?
Starting point is 00:35:12 He said he... No, you're not listening to people. Where's your mind, Nicole? Oh, no! Where's your mind? It's not the fact that I bought this lip gloss a few months ago and it's already three-quarters of the way done. Sorry, that's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:35:23 In my first cookbook, culinary wrote-down cookbook available on Amazon or wherever you get your books, I made a kimchi ruben but with fried bologna. So it's a fried bologna kimchi ruben. I love fried bologna. It's one of my favorite things. I don't eat a lot of fried bologna. And also this is the struggle meal section where hey, you like that some bologna. I'm sorry. I'm never speaking again. That's okay. You know, poor people deserve nice things. You sound like a fable. You're speaking again. That's okay. You know, poor people deserve nice things.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I think where sauerkraut outperforms kimchi in terms of a Reuben is in the texture. It's all the texture in the cut, right? So sauerkraut is thinly, thinly shredded and in my experience tends to be less tough than kimchi, which is made from Napa cabbage generally. So like a white cabbage to me, it gets more tender which is made from Napa cabbage generally. So like a white cabbage to me, it gets more tender and the cut on it is shreddy. If I were putting kimchi in a Reuben,
Starting point is 00:36:10 obviously I would like very thinly dice it up. See, they're putting whole pieces of kimchi in this Reuben, which is where I have a problem. I love those whole pieces of kimchi. I love eating a big old leaf of kimchi with chopsticks on the side of food as it's typically presented. But I think in a sandwich you need to do, you know, you have shredded lettuce, you need
Starting point is 00:36:29 shrimp-chi, shredded kimchi. You should make shrimp-chi. I should make shrimp-chi. Or if you just took white cabbage sauerkraut, but then added the shrimp paste, added the gochugaru, the chili paste, added all those flavors, but with white cabbage made in that cut. Ooh, that would be a fun little hack. That'd be a fun little cut. Ooh! That would be a fun little hack. That'd be a fun little hack. I think that'd be a fun little thing.
Starting point is 00:36:48 We should just do that on the show. Why don't we do that on the show one day? That'd be cool. And just like, and just close the lid, let it sit for like a day? No. Oh, you're talking about just flavoring pre-made sauerkraut? With kimchi flavors. Oh, yeah, that'd be an easy thing. I thought you meant make it from scratch. Oh, no, not from scratch. But I do like this person's opinion.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I see it as valid, but I just love sour. I just bought a brand new jar of sauerkraut, and let me tell you, sometimes I just take spoonfuls of it and I just eat it. It's a fun time. It's so delicious. Fermenty cabbage, I love. Nothing beats to me. I don't love a lot of store-bought kimchi because to me it's like too acidic,
Starting point is 00:37:23 and I don't know if that's because... Too much citric acid? I don't know if they of store-bought kimchi because to me it's too acidic. And I don't know if that's because... Too much citric acid? I don't know if they're preserving the citric acid or if it's that the lactobacillus gets trapped into the closed jar. But there's like a Korean market near me that has the best homemade kimchi I've ever had in my life. And it's not very sour. It's super, super dense and umami-driven and spicy and funky with that shrimp paste it's god
Starting point is 00:37:45 what a treat and it's like dry too it's not sitting in liquid oh no you know so oh god that's good yeah you know living in LA we I gotta get a better kimchi connect I really do does anybody have a Korean grandma that would just give me bushels of kimchi call me my number leave a review about your Korean grandma with bushels I want your Korea Korean bushel filled grandma to hit me up. Yeah. And give me some... I'll pay her. Yeah, well... I wouldn't not pay her. The grandma with the bushels is gonna get paid. The hundo pay. Hundo. Hundo pay. Holy moly, you guys were not kidding about how sensual that wish melis is. We don't get around that.. So I'm calling from Canada, and my hot food take is that maple syrup is incredibly overrated.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Whoa! Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff. I will use it in my sauces, put it on pancakes occasionally, but most of the time I will choose Antimima or whatever they call themselves. Pearl Milling Company. Okay, I'm going to have a hotter take than this. I think honey is better than maple syrup in almost every single application. Agreed entirely.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Oh, okay, so it's not that hot. Agreed entirely. Maple syrup is something that I love. Also honey, like water it down by a little bit to give it the same consistency as syrup, I think, like a honey syrup. My thing with maple is that it is a valid flavor, but it's utterly, utterly bizarre that it became the main flavor of syrup, right? Because that is insanely specific.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like the bark of one tree that's native to North America, it's just the bark. What other sap, what other trees produce sap? Freaking dude, like so many like like mastic birch I don't know. There's like a ton, but like a ton of stuff out there There's a ton of roots that can flavor things cinnamon's a bark no, but it doesn't why not cinnamon syrup But it doesn't produce sap does it no I guess not but like Well, it's because I think it might be one of the few well
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'm not sure but my instincts are telling me that it's one of the few trees that creates a sap, like a liquid sap. I see what you're saying. And probably that's why it's so popular. Things like that you were saying, like what were you saying, mastic? That's like, yeah, like I don't know, maybe mastic doesn't necessarily do the same thing. I don't know. Okay, well, so here we go. Walnut trees can be tapped for its sap to produce syrup. Birch trees, as you remember, box elder.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Elm, hickory, you can get... Okay. Elm, what about like, I don't know, spruce maybe? But like you can sap multiple trees, you can sap them and tap them. And it's weird that maple is like the only one... Maybe. ...that we use. Maybe it's the best tasting one. Well, maybe, but I think, but now that we have things
Starting point is 00:40:28 like Pearl Milling Company, I used to use Eggo brand syrup because it was always on sale at my local grocery store and it came in a waffle. I hate Eggo brand syrup. It's so thick, but like it's a lot of corn syrup or you can make, when I make syrups at home and I do this quite a lot. You're a syrup maker.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I am, but like I just do sugar water cornstarch, sorry. Oh. And that thickens it just enough. And then you can add whatever flavors you want. But maple is an ultra specific flavor that like I can't even begin to describe to people because again, it's just a tree. It's a flavor of a tree. Maple flavor.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It's sweet like honey. It has a autumnal, cinnamony, clovey, all spicy undertone. Undertone? Am I right? It doesn't quite capture it though. It's tough to describe maple without using the descriptor of maple. Yeah, it's tough. Maple tastes like maple. What color is orange? The color of an orange?
Starting point is 00:41:21 What does that help? That's what I'm saying. Right? Honey, at least, you can say like well There's got some some floral notes floral you know um Slightly kind of bacterial in a way and different honeys taste different to they do they do you know? Avocado honeys probably my favorite yeah, yeah, I love orange. I've always been raised money's also great Good old-fashioned clover honey, but yeah maple, it's tough to say it's not overrated
Starting point is 00:41:46 because it's so highly rated and it's such a bizarre product, bro. You juiced a tree and boiled it down, now I'm putting it on pancakes, that's weird. You made tree juice, you know? Just saying. And for a Canadian to say that, that's brave. He's, I think, actually gonna be executed
Starting point is 00:41:59 in some country now. Yeah, I was gonna say, we should probably get him into witness protection. Come on, come on. We'll get you into Minnesota. There's that one, do you know what I I'm talking about there's this one little area that Looks like it's in the Canadian mainland, but it actually belongs to the US That's from that one show that has Kevin Costner in it. Is that his name? Oh, I don't
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yellowstone, yeah, maybe I don't know. I don't know. I understand but there's a bunch of witness protection people that are posted up They're posted up there smart. See there's one little sl witness protection people that are posted up there. There's one little sliver. You gotta go there. The Mounties are gonna get you. My opinion is, Casserole, is that the best way to reheat mashed potatoes is frying them. Oh! Take a bunch of butter in the frying pan, slap them in there, get a nice crust on one side, give it a flip, get a nice crust on the outside, do it in the morning with a side of sausage. Best breakfast you can come up with for mashed potatoes there. Nice crisp, gives it some texture and they get nice and warm and throw some extra butter in there. Great breakfast.
Starting point is 00:43:08 So I think this is just changing the shape and changing the actual... Why are you laughing at me? What? What's so funny? Maggie got the giggle too. I'm trying to be serious for five seconds of my life. You're changing the entire product once you are deep frying it like you are. I don't think he's deep frying, he's pan frying. I'm sorry, you're pan frying it into a pancake. You are making a mashed potato pancake. When you wanna reheat mashed potatoes,
Starting point is 00:43:36 the best way to do it, in my opinion, is to, this is gonna be a little bit fancy, you put it in a bain-marie. This man frying up potatoes in butter and eating with sausage for breakfast. You wanna break up the bain-marie. Do we do? This man frying up potatoes in butter and eating with sausage for breakfast. You want to break out the bain-marie? I'm going to do it. So you're going to take water and then you're going to put a bowl over it and then you're going to put your potatoes in there and then you're going to reheat it and then add a little
Starting point is 00:43:54 bit of milk and then get it a little bit loosey-goosey and you have the most delicious, yummy, warm mashed potatoes. That's how I like to do it. Yes. This is changing the form factor of the whole dish. This is no longer mashed potatoes. You're saying this is a repurposing. This is not a rehe it. Yes. This is changing the form factor of the whole dish. This is no longer mashed potatoes This isn't this is a repurposing. This is a reheating exactly Well, I think we should analyze and read the best way to read them just like microwaves fine
Starting point is 00:44:11 Oh, yeah, you can also microwave them. Sorry. You can also microwave. It's the perfect microwavable food. Even you stir it. It's good. Sorry But but but this mash a pancake, this is something I grew up eating. This is like a very divorced dad breakfast But but but this mash potato pancake, this is something I grew up eating. This is like a very divorced dad breakfast That I grew up with. You guys would go off for dinner the night before and then you would go. No, we like make crappy mashed potatoes And they were generally instant, right? But the instant ones you need to do this with like a stodgy chunky mashed potato Because the instant ones if they're too liquidy and I love it generally a loose mashed potato But they'll just sort of like evaporate into the pan and then you're trying to flip them and you're trying to keep that crust You know what I mean? It doesn't exactly work
Starting point is 00:44:50 And so that's never been as successful if you take potatoes you add an egg a little bit of flour To it, you know, then you're frying that maybe a little bit of baking soda get you a little bit of rise That sounds good. You know, that's really good. But to me, I've never been successful With a straight mashed potato in the pan. You're gonna end up with buttery crusted mashed potatoes that are hot. Which sounds really good. Great. Like there's no way that can go wrong. But I feel like it leaves something to the imagination.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Right. And I think what you're looking for, Sarah, is called a... ...hush brown. Hush brown. Hush browns have perfected. Hush brown. This is no hush brown. But for some reason, hush browns are not a... Cucu-sabzi. This is Cucu-sib-zam a... Cuckoo Sabzi. This is Cuckoo Siebsamini.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Siebsamini, Cuckoo Siebsamini. Why do we... So funny. We have one more, Maggie. One more in the... It's a Rosti. One more in the chamber. Pew pew. How many Rostis have you seen Jamie Oliver make?
Starting point is 00:45:37 I have, I barely watched Jamie Oliver. I've, you've made some Rostis. I've made some Rostis. I like a Rosti. Why are you talking about Rosties right now? We're talking about potatoes that people eat. Because I was saying that hash browns are not a dinner potato for some reason, despite the fact that they're my favorite preparation of potato. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And they soak up a stew so well. It's literally potato tadig. I love potato tadig. Right? That's what a hash brown is. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's a potato tadig. Potato tadig is something so, potato tatty is the best. You're tatty-ing the potatoes.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Maggie, we're gonna start fighting again, so can you just give us one more, please? I can't deal with this. All I want is hash browns. I think brownies are overrated. If I wanted something fudgy, I'd rather it's have good fudge, and if I wanted something cakey,
Starting point is 00:46:20 then I would just rather a really good chocolate cake. Preach. Brownies just kind of we be Yeah Bang I feel the exact same way you and I would be friends What I thought about that so specifically recently because I ate really good fudge from the Jersey Shore You know and I got the little pistachio fudge. I like the fudge the maple fudge with the walnuts I like maple fudge maple fudge is good. I like a classic chocolate fudge. You know it's they got the little pistachio fudge. I like the maple fudge with the walnuts. I like maple fudge. Maple fudge is good. I like the classic chocolate fudge.
Starting point is 00:46:47 You know, it's all good to me. And I ate that and I said, I never need to eat a brownie again. No way. This is satisfying what I want. Chewy chocolate, bang bang. The thing about fudge is they use condensed milk a lot. There's a lot of stuff in fudge. Huh?
Starting point is 00:47:00 There's a lot of stuff in fudge. No, it's typically sugar, cocoa powder, chocolate, and condensed milk or something to make fudge. No? Is that? Is there not like gelatin? No? Some people can use gelatin, but I haven't... Isn't like corn syrup heated up to a certain temp? Maybe. Maybe. Yes, yes, yes. I've never made fudge from scratch, can't think of it.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I've made fudge a few times from scratch, and all the recipes I've used use condensed milk. So let me tell you, I will say they always end up tasting like condensed milk. Which I love condensed milk. It's a delicious flavor. It's like malty, sugary, sweet, milky goodness. I love it so much. But brownies? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Like chewing into a beautifully curated brownie that's like exactly to your, like to your preferences. Like if you're a fudgy person, if you like nuts, if you like chocolate chips, if you like that shiny like you can like you can make your own perfect brownie and when you eat that perfect brownie, wow it is such an experience. But for fudge, I feel like fudge is the same anywhere you get it like Kelly's fudge or at the pier or like your grandma's like all fudge is the same Brownie allows for so much curation and so much individuality and so much delicious
Starting point is 00:48:10 Choice and preferences that I love brownies so much more and if I were at if I was at a crossroads of fudge versus brownies I will always go towards the brownies. What about what about brownie versus cake? Oh Those are so different. Um, like chocolate cake for but but but you can get brownies. What about brownie versus cake? Oh those are so different. Like chocolate cake versus brownies? But you can get brownies. So if you have fudge and cake on ends of the spectrum, brownies, if you consider fudge to be like, because most fudge is fudge, most cakes are cakes, you know what I mean? Yes, correct. It's not a lot of equivocation. Let's say that's the bottom 10%, the top 10% of this, you know, bell curve here. The middle 80 is brownies of all different cakiness and fudgyness. Well yeah exactly you can determine if you want to cake your fudgy brownie.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You can determine that. All I want are the ends I either want something dense as a neutron star really or something light as a little chiffon cake. No way. Once you're in that middle 80% one I would rather have a fudgy brownie than a cakey brownie for sure. Okay. A cakey brownie is just like a kind of dense bad cake to me. A fudgy brownie is just like, well, you took a half measure that to fudge didn't go all the way. I either want pure fudge or pure cake, not a fudgy brownie or cakey brownie. I want a delicious brownie that is made to my preferences. That is just gooey and fudgy. And when when I bite it I want there to be almost like a Like a resistance, you know, I love with fudge. It's it's too hard like fudge. It's like too much Yeah, but with brownie like you can have that resistance, but it's still as pleasant going down
Starting point is 00:49:37 It's when you have too many squares of fudge you feel sick. Yeah, you know, you got to eat more fudge at it You got to push the only way the only way out of the fudge storm is through the fudge storm. That's what I always say. That's what I love my life. I disagree. I think brownies are a marvel from the bake. It's a marvel from the baking community. I love it so much. And I haven't had a brownie in so long. I'm going to eat a brownie later and I'm going to be so excited. I love blondies, so I'm just a hypocrite here.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh my God, I love blondies, so I'm just a hypocrite here. It's like my favorite thing. Oh my god, I love blondies more than brownies! Like a brown butter, walnut or pecan caramel blondie, or just a normal ass blondie. I love that. So I love the texture, but I think when it comes to chocolate, either cake or fudge.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Do you like brookies? I hate brookies! Yeah, dig, things that shouldn't be combined. You know, give me a good cookie. Yeah. Don't put a whole brownie on it. Yeah, I don't like bookies. No. Sometimes though, I like the whole, with the Oreos.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It was like bacon. What's the thing with it? It's bacon Oreo inside cookie dough. A good time. Hey, yes it is, baby. Well that about wraps it up for us. Over here at KRQ7, the number six radio radio station all of River Falls, Virginia Make sure to go out and support today's sponsors celebrity deli and Pepsi
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Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, and then we're going to go on the swings outside because there's a swing set outside. Really? We can play on the swing set. Sounds so fun. At Mother's Beach. I'm going to me throw out my French dip sliders. Oh my gosh, I forgot to tell them about the pizza I used to get when I was little. Well, you have the floor.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You're here. When I was little, I used to get a pizza, and then I would take French fries, and I would shove the French fries within the pizza, so they were almost like fossils in the ground. Like, I would push them in like this. like fossils in the ground. Like I would push him in like this. It was so funny.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I made french fry pizza and I was like 10. Thanks for liking, commenting, and subscribing.

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