A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Why Does Everyone Hate Arby's?

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Today, Josh and Nicole talk about why Arby's has such a bad reputation and if it's legit, or are people just jumping on the hate bandwagon? Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video version of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this is mythical. Hey, Josh. Yeah, Nicole? I'm so hungry. I could eat at Arby's. That's pretty rude, man. They're really out there trying their best to provide a service. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie.

Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast. A Hot Dog is a sandwich to this show. We break down the world's biggest food debates.

I'm your host Josh Cher. And I'm your host, Nicole Iniety. And that was Nicole bringing back an old Simpsons joke. Yes. It was said by one of the twins, there are two twins that are kind of colored grayish purple, and I cannot remember their names. I don't know the names either, but they were sitting at a campfire.

And then one of them goes, I'm so hungry. I could eat at Arby's. And then everyone around the campfire goes, oh, that's disgusting. And today what we're breaking down is, is that the projection? genitore of the anti-R-Bes sentiment that we have now seen over the course of 30 years. Let me tell you, I Googled, I mean, I YouTubeed why Arby's, and the first thing that came up is hated.

Why Arby's hate was literally what came up. An interesting thing, though, is if something was actually so universally hated, it simply would cease to exist. But there's something about Arby's that is keeping them alive despite. Tell you what it is. Go ahead. Boomers. Is that the only reason Arby's is staying alive? I think the taste of roast beef is one that only boomers can love.

That's fascinating. Say more. What do you want me to say? The taste of roast beef is only something boomers can love. Are you familiar with a man named Salt Hank? Yeah. What about him? He's awesome.

Henry Lipport, we love Salt Hank. Have you seen the restaurant that Salt Hank opened in Manhattan? It's called Salt Hanks. Or Manhattan, Brooklyn. New York's kind of all the same to me. I'm sorry. New York. We don't know the difference. But he opened up a shop that is ostensibly serving a roast beef sandwich.

Okay, but it's not, it's sexy. He's making a sexiest sandwich I've ever seen. I sent Hank a message saying lewd things about the sandwich and what I wanted to do to it. Did he respond to? And he said, I dare you come down and do that to my sandwich at my restaurant, and I really want to go. Okay. But the point is like, it's not, roast beef isn't the problem. No, no, no, let me tell you.

The kids love roast beef. Listen, I, dude, my favorite sandwich in the world is a French dip with all the shaved beef in it. I love that stuff. Same. I think. Arby's has a French dip. Let me tell you. Still on the menu? I don't know.

Who knows what the Arby's menu even contains anymore? Last time I went to Arby's, my grandma was alive because I took her there. Oh, yeah, we both have stories about Boomer and, like, parents and grandparents eating it. That's the memories that I have with Arby's is, like, going with my dad. Same. My mom and dad's first date was at an Arby's. Which one? Uh, ooh, would have been in, like, Anaheim.

Oh, not here? Not the sunset one? No. Oh, that's cute. No, they would have been in Orange County at the time. Every time, this is so funny. Every time my dad, my parents are in Kaiser right now, okay? They switched insurances, right?

Because they're, like, older now. And my dad goes to the hospital a lot of the times. Just, you know, he has a pain here, a pain here, whatever. Boomers love Arby's. They love going to the hospital. And whenever my dad would go to the hospital, It was literally a stones throw away from an Arby's. So he'd be like, hey, pick me up a beef and cheddar with three horsy sauces and a curly fry.

And I would say, okay. And I would just take, I would literally bring Arby's to my dad in the hospital. So that's my Arby's story. And literally, this is so funny because if you don't know, I'm pregnant right now. And they probably don't know. Do you know? Oh my God. And David.

Can I be the godfather? You've asked me before and I said yes. Yay. Where was I? Arby's, your dad, hospital, beef and cheddars, pregnant, prangent. So, David, my husband, I've been trying to get... You're married? I've been trying to get David to go to Arby's for the longest time.

And we made a pact, basically, with my dad saying that as soon as I give birth, the first outing that they want to go to is to an Arby's, because it's the most dad restaurant. It is. So I think that's really cute. I think part of maturity is understanding that sometimes the olds were right. You know what I mean? I agree with that.

You love old man cereal, right? Oh, a grape night hates to see me coming. Me and a raisin brand, no raisins? What? Still too sweet for me. The raisins just here for the brand flakes, please. I'm here for the all brand. The weedies?

Hates to see me coming. I mean, I love whitties, a little too sweet. Just give me the flaked brand and I'd like to put milk on it. Okay, okay, fine. But I think there is something about realizing that, like, an old man taste, I started eating plain baked potatoes recently.

I mean, not just plain. I'll put some sour cream and chive or whatever on it. But to me, that was like the old man food. I was like, there's so many better ways to make a potato, and I'm going to implement them. But there aren't. No, to bake the whole potato. It steams out. It concentrates the flavors.

I know baked potatoes don't need me arguing for them, but there's a moment where I was like, my daddy was correct. This is the best way to eat a potato Like the cornerstones Like the main characters of Arby's are The beef and cheddar sandwich The regular roast beef sandwich I know their curly fries as being the best in the game

100%. Could I differentiate them from Jack in the Box? Probably not but I love them But like those are the three things And then of course there's like the jokey things Like the Meat Mountain and the Hito they had for like a little bit But for me those three things are iconic And you can't have an Arby's experience Without eating those things

So, but those things, when you think about it, it's meat, bun, cheese, potato. And those are foods that people have been eating for, like, thousands of years. Also, what a fantastic change-up from the hamburger industrial complex, now the fried chicken industrial complex. I agree. How many times can people put a zesty sauce and a spicy this and that and whatever, whatever? You got horseradish and some sort of weird fake, freaking, like, barbecue sauce. You know what I mean? It's just these, it's a classic for a reason, but I don't think the kids are hip to the Arby's jive.

You know what I'm saying? What can we do? Because I believe that the Arby's beef and cheddar with horsy sauce is... It's really good. It's one of the best... It's really good. It's not as good as if you were to go. There's a spot in L.A. that invented the French dip, I believe, called Filippe.

Philippe. Philippe, the original. It's like truly one of the best things. It's super heavy horse strategy mustard. It's a delay. It's not like that, but it's like a fast food. approximation, like their beef is just, it's so just salty and thin and ribony. You know, their onion buns, the onion buns at Arby's are like, I think they're the best.

I think the best. If every burger, if every fast food burger was served on Arby's onion bun, we would be better for it. Also, I just checked the Euro is still on the Arby's. Okay, I'm so sorry. You do not need to get the Euro at Arby's. God bless him for trying. You don't need to do that. Just get a beef and cheddar and a fry and you're good to go.

I am a huge fan of a sandwich called the RBQ. I don't even know what the hell that is. I think what they do. There's a term for it in delis, and I can't remember. It's for like, there's a term in delis where it's like the sawdust. Yeah, the listeria. It's not the Listeria, no. It's the Listeria.

It's how you get Listeria. That's not how you get Listeria. No, no, no. Okay, when you're shaving meat super, super thin on a meat slicer. And then there's like the excess that falls off. Yeah, it falls off. There's like an actual deli term. The shake.

The shake. The shake. Great job. It's what it's what the RBQueue was made at. It's all the meat shaving, submerged in barbecue sauce. Of anything? No, it's roast beef. It's just like thinly porn, razor-thin roast beef. But it feels like they're taking the roast beef ends that fell out.

Okay. That weren't suited for the beef and cheddar. The irregular bits. The irregular bits. Okay. And they're swimming it in barbecue sauce. They're slapping it onto the onion bun. Like a sloppy Joe.

It's literally an R.B. Sloppy Joe. And it was my favorite thing in the world. And I still love it. Is it even, God, is it even still on the menu? Take a look and see. Is the Meat Mountain even on there? The Meat Mountain, I don't believe. was ever on the menu officially.

Oh, really? It was fake? No, I mean, it was an off-menu item. You could go there to order a meat mountain. You wouldn't want to. Son of a biscuit. Do they take the RBQ off? Josh, I'm sorry that you're...

They took the damn barbecue off. What kind of country are we living in? I'm sorry, Bessie. The corned beef, Ruben, is a delight over the Arbys. Listen, they have good things there, is what I'm trying to say. But it's just not as... I don't know what... I mean, they had a pretty good marketing campaign

with a deep voice guy saying, the meats and like the track suits that they were given out they were giving meat sweat suits like there's there's something to they're trying to grasp the gen zers and the millennials but the food is so brown not the gen zers they were grasping at the millennials whatever they're doing because that was that was during i was once i need to give a full journalistic disclosure here Nicole go ahead because in what would have been i suppose 2014 god that was a decade ago oh my gosh i was 22 i had a blog it was maybe 2015, I had a blog called Culinary Brodown.com

and I was part of the first ever class of Arby's meat crafters. They got a bunch of bloggers. I don't really know. They flew me out to a weird warehouse in New York and they brought me to a butcher and they took us to a prime rib restaurant

and they had a guy leading it named Josh Ozerski who was like a leading food blogger at the time. He wrote for like Grub Street and he actually passed away. recently, which was very sad. But anyways, and then Arby's brought us up to like a weird kind of abandoned house warehouse kind of rave, but with meats. And it was very confusing.

I was there with a friend named Jess Pryles, and it was all a very strange time in my life. But anyways, the point is that was like the most millennial marketing campaign. It was part of that, like, epic bacon moment that Ferrell wore the big Arby hat. And an Arby's executive was like bragging to me about how they bought the hat for $50,000 in an auction. And they started giving out. the hats. But it wasn't an Arby's hat. It was just a hat.

Farrell Williams noted music producer and artist. He wore a large hat one day. And people said, that kind of looks like the Arby's hat. And then Arby's bought it. And that's the story.

Arby sells the model of the hat that Farrell Williams wore. Does this sound like this would appeal to Gen Z? No, this is pure millennial day. We bought it. Okay, fine, fine. Okay. I don't know. Because I'm happy and fun if you feel.

That's Farrell. That is. And that's Arby's. That's our people. That's our culture. So Farrell's happy is equal to Arby's. Yes. The whole restaurant chain.

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Like, there's like, it's like, what's it called the magpie effect where it's like, you see something that's like shiny and new? Oh, is that what it's called? Magpies are the, is it called the magpie effect? I've never heard the magpie. Have you heard of mag pies? I know what a magpie's a bird. Mac pies, they like shiny things, right?

Yes. Is that correct? I believe that to be. I'd say raccoons as well, love shiny things. Josh loves shiny things. Those goblins and Harry Potter love shiny things. You look like, because they're Jewish. Yeah, Jewish goblins.

Arby's, here's the thing, though, is we think of... No, I had a point before. Go ahead. Oh, fine, Nicole was a point. Before you were wrong. rudely stopped all over it with your J.K. Rowling stuff. Do you know how, like, magpies go ahead? They like shiny things. Uh-huh.

So the thing with, like, McDonald's and, like, Popeyes is that the colors are brighter and more inviting. Popeyes. Yeah, they have, like, lettuce and, like... Where's Popeye's having lettuce? Explain to me where the lettuce is. Pickles. Picles are... That's underneath a bun, a brown bun. The coal saw.

You're saying coleslaw is shiny enough to attract the human eye? Colorful, colorful. I don't know if I'm buying this. No, no, no. Everybody who's this thing knows exactly what I'm saying. There's this, there's like a freshness factor that I'm sorry, Arby's when I think of the, whenever, I have like synesthesia of like foods. Arby's just like it's, it's, it's, it's diarrhea brown. Yeah, it's not, yeah, I wouldn't use that classification, but it's brown.

It's brown food. But when you say Arby's, do you mean like, no. Nothing is more diarrhea brown than Taco Bell. Taco Bell is also very brightly colored, but I'm saying, I'm saying, okay, oh, you're saying that the-the-vime branding? The vibe. Barbies is like bright red now. Arby's?

Yeah, they've been trying to make it happen. It's as brown as their hat. Yeah, Taco Bell used to be very like yellow, yellow, brown, green, orange, like that kind of warm color that, then now Burger King has somehow taken all those colors to try and do a weird kind of retro 70s feel. Yeah, which I get that vibe. I understand they're trying to like. Taco Bell's pure, like, euphoria, bisexual lighting. They're trying to...

They're trying to live moss. You know? Why, you know, why stick to one thing a Taco Bell? And you can, you know, play all around and that, baby. You can have the Chalupa and the Gordita, if you know what I'm saying. But I know what you mean, that the Arby's, it's a little drab comparatively. My laptop died. But in terms of the food, because, like, Arby's has tried.

They're trying. I'm not saying that they're not trying. The fried chicken sandwich. They got a whole... But nobody cares about it, Josh. You don't know if no kid cares about the chicken corn on blue sandwich of Arby's? Why aren't you? Why are you eating a chicken cordon blue sandwich from Arby's right now?

You want to know why? Whenever we even did chicken fried chicken sandwich taste test, we've done multiple iterations of eating fried chicken. We have never once considered Arby's to even be in the running for these foods. Arby's is never in the running anymore. Well, that's because the only Arby's near us closed. down, which brings us to our next point. Arby's is struggling.

And with the donation of $20.99 to the Hot Dog to Sandwich podcast, I know. We will make sure if you send that money to us, we'll donate it to a local Arby's franchisee. They literally don't need our money. They need people to go and eat there. That's what they need. I wish I wish I was at an Arby's right now. Where is the closest Arby's to us now that the only close to ourbies to us has closed down? I'm going to find out right now.

Generally, you have to go like all the way out. to like Northridge, but there's no Arby's. Where's Northridge? It's like, it's upper left. Arbys has done. Mission Hills. Mission Hills. Reseda. Reseda. There's no Arbys and Reseda.

I'm going tonight for dinner. No, you're not. I don't believe you. Take my dad with you. He really misses Arbys. He like misses Arbys. He does like you very much. I really like Morris as well.

He's a nice man. I feel like Arbys has really, they've tried with the food. You know? What does that mean? What does that mean? There's two, I don't know if this is a pure dichotomy, but if you're like a fast food restaurant and you're, you're sort of struggling to appeal to a certain demographic gain, A, either improve the food options, right, improve the quality, improve the, improve the variety. Al-a-domino's. Improved the hell out of the quality of their food. Chili's also improved the hell out of the quality of their food.

They did? They really did. They added a lot of different QC measures. They actually got rid of a ton of options, right? You know, because, like, literally there's a story about Chili's that the CEO was talking about where, like, they had, like, multiple different kinds of fries. Like, you can get curly, you can get wedges, you can get normal fries. Cut that. And he was like, just do one fry and make a good. And, like, and found out that people were complaining that this, that they were under-salted. And so they, like, kind of launched a little investigation that they probably paid millions of dollars for. And they were like, how many times are you shaking the salt shaker at the fries?

And they were, like, takes 36. And they're like, make the holes bigger. make the holes bigger man and they did and now they shake it four times and the fries are well salted well that's just quality like just checking making sure everything is going well and part of that can be pairing

down items right like they did at Chili's like they like you know in and out has always kept their menu the other side is you can really increase variety to sort of get people in there so if you're an old man and you love Arby's roast beef like me right but then you're like trying to

convince say your significant other that hey, you should come with me to get Arby's and they go, well, I don't want to eat a rest bean sandwich and you go, boom, you can have the roast turkey ranch and bacon sandwich. You can have a corned beef Rubin. You can have a crispy, juicy chicken buffalo sandwich. You can have a yiro.

But they're not known for any of those. None of those have made a big enough splash for them to even still be on the menu. No, but that there's a term in marketing and I can't remember what it is. But it's basically the reason... Lost leader. Not even a loss leader.

It's like the idea of, it's like an anti- protest kind of item. What are you talking about? McDonald's was really good about this with salads. And I actually got corrected by a fan. I chatted with them in the DMs because I was talking about how McDonald's kind of introduced these salads to almost be a little bit of a loss leader, right? But after Super Size Me came out, all these new salads, so they could kind of almost be

like a, what do they call it when the Catholic Church issued like pardons for your sins? Oh. Oh. Remember that? Oh. What were they called? Make you Google it. Look at Catholic Church, pardon for sins.

They're called like allowances or something. I know it's, I can't remember the word. Information. But I thought that's what McDonald's is doing. And then someone was like, hey, I used to work in marketing in fast food. Indulgences? Indulgences. Those are like their indulgences.

Like you can sort of like buy, you know, it's like, sure, our, you know, extra large, supersized fries, harming children. I don't know. But they could have ordered a salad because we have those in the menu. So it's the fallacy of options. Kind of. I talked to somebody who is in marketing, and they're like, well, the salads are also there. Basically, if a family unit is going, there's five people, four of them want burgers. One really wants a salad, and they won't shut up about it.

Right. You know, and they could turn that damn car around and go to a, the Daphne's Greek Cafe. You know, great little local chain. Love it. Now Daphne's California Grill. But the point is, it's like there's salad's there for the one member of the family who wants a salad. You know, and I feel like Arby's has been slowly chucking those items out there. but I don't know if they have any salads.

I don't know, but, like, I understand. I'm picking up what you're putting down, but you don't think of those foods. Like, you don't think of the Hito whenever you, you don't even call it here. I've probably got a gyro. Yeah, they got, Arby's got new sliders. They got a jalapeno roast beef slider and I don't want to eat it.

Nothing about Arby's anymore, like, excites me the way that, like, a naked chicken taco from Taco Bell does. Like, I mean, Taco Bell does. It's almost like one of those, What are those Apple things or, like, Apple unveils a new, like, internet item? Yeah, yeah. Steve Jobs goes up there and he's like, the iPhone.

He's dead. Steve Jobs is dead? Yeah, and I'm pregnant. Oh, God. There's so many surprises this podcast. With death comes new life. Whatever. They, like, do the whole, it's like a summit.

They do a Taco Bell summit now. You're right. Yeah. It's like, with, like, the PowerPoints and these cool transition. And someone is literally talking on a little microphone up here like they do in theater. and they've made a whole thing out of these new, fun, exciting ideas. And I feel like whenever Arby's just like, hey, we have a new cider, come check it out. You know what I mean?

There's nothing exciting or there's no hype around it. There's no desire for these new things. They should, what they should do is get rid of all of that kerfuffle, all of that extra space. And they should just do roast beef sandwiches, beef and cheddar. A curly fry, another fry, maybe one other sandwich people that don't like beef. That's it. They're wasting time. They're wasting energy.

They're wasting resources. They're wasting money. And that's how I feel about it. Nicole, we work at a relatively young company, right? The average age of the worker here. It's a lot of, you know, people working. People are young that work here. People are young that work here.

And the company's not even that old as it is. We're young. Well, yeah, but we're even on a little bit of the older side. The fact that you're singing. That means that we are indeed old. That band is called fun. Hello? I know what the band's...

No, you don't. Let me say. Indulge me for a second. Oh, okay. When we would get large format food catered for this whole company to enjoy, we go through a sort of lunch line. This is peeling back the layers of mythical entertainment. How it goes, we put out large vats of food for our employees to feast on.

Some call it a catering buffet line. Some call it a trough. If there is a trough of tofu and chicken and... and beef, which there often is, say on Make Your Own Korean Rice Bowls Day. That's a fun day at work. What is the item in the chicken, the tofu, and the beef that is most left over? The tofu? No.

That's the most left over? That has the most leftover. Chicken! No. Have you not noticed this? I don't notice. No, we need beef at our company. We stopped getting beef.

We stopped getting beef? We like sometimes, Meggy, have you noticed this? Yeah. What? I'm not very observing. I guess I'm just not that as detail-oriented as I once was. If I'm late to the, like, buffet line, like, there's often only, like, beef leftovers. Same goes for, like, Cabob Day.

I love beef. I go for the beef. But I'm saying so much of your sort of identity, whether it's, like, regional, whether it's cultural, whether it is, uh, generational, is locked up in the kinds of foods you eat, young people. Don't eat beef? I don't think they're eating beef, man. I think now, I think now we're about to start seeing with RFK Jr. and steak and shake and the tallow and all that. I think we're going to start seeing. Saking and Shake was, I think, the first restaurant to start exclusively cooking their fries back in their all their food in beef tallow, I think.

No way. Yeah, yeah. Sardar Biglari, is that the guy's name? Sake and Shake CEO? Did I make that up? Did I just call? I can't read. Boom.

God. Is he present? Is he Persian? I'm good. Sounds Persian. Biglory. I think he owned Maxa Magazine for a bit. Maybe he still does.

Beglotri. Bglary. Sorry. Sardar Biglari. Was that correct? I don't know. Hold on. I've never.

If he's not Persian, I'm doing... He's probably, like, if he's not Persian, he's probably Iraqi. The point is, I don't think... What's up? Wet slices of beef are cool anymore among Gen Z. I think it was very cool for our dad's generation and might make a comeback now. I love when Persian people are successful.

I love that, too, for Sardar B, Gladi. It sounds racist when I say it, but when you pronounce it... It's not racist when you say it's so well. Yeah, I don't know, Sardar Biglari. Sadda, big lottie. Then I'm throwing a little too much accent on it. Sorry, put too much steak on it. You can do that.

That's your accent. Sorry, I just love whatever a Persian person is successful. Woo! This is the, with a conservative retrenchment in American society, civil society, I think Arby's is due for an explosion. Because of beef being associated with the Maha movement and conservatism, I think Arby's is primed to strike.

But I legitimately think that's a real thing. I think young progressive people don't eat as much beef because we've seen the WHO reports and whatever. And I think now we're sort of seeing a rebellion against that. Wow. I guess I never equated Arby's and conservatism before. I mean, even if you look at the generational, you know, you kind of get more conservative, the older you get back. You are a thousand percent. We're not saying Arby's has conservative politics themselves.

I have no idea. They're really saying their wet beef sheets really do seem to appeal, I think, to a more conservative audience. So you're saying that they should just. And me. They should make a full. I'll be the lone Democratic Socialist Army supporter. Oh, my God. So you're trying to shake the official dessert of universal basic income.

So you're trying to say that they should do a hard pivot and go down the Big Lari route and just become exclusively seed oil free. Yeah. So they can. I actually think that's. Instead of why does everyone hate Arby's? Why does 50% of America hate Arby's? I actually think Arby's best shot at winning the game right now is to go seed oil free. Honestly?

You know? You never know. It's probably working for steak and shake. I mean, I didn't even know what steak and shake was until you told me what it was. I've never had a steak and shake before. It's pretty good. Like, little steak burgers, they call it, they smash them down. I think they need to pare down their menu.

I agree with that. But do you actually think that that shaved roast beef has a shot to succeed as a main ticket item, especially with rising beef prices and especially with the dominance of fried chicken? Yeah. You do. I think they need to go back to classics. The way that, like, Burger King is becoming retro, I think Arby's needs to go back to the classics. Is Burger King having a good time doing that?

Is it working? I mean, you could have it your way. You rule. But you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know what the numbers are. If my, like, Arby's shading more towards a right-wing demographic is not supported enough, do you remember, this is one of my favorite weird little activations of all time, Arby's introduced a big game burger. Never. What's it about?

Available for a limited time. Tell me what it's about. Arby's introduced a game meat burger. Oh, yes. In like 16 of their restaurants, they were doing this. Yeah, they also had duck breasts at a period of time. Yeah, Arby's has They had a Venison sandwich in 2017

I never got to try either I don't think any of them were available At the ones that were like anywhere close to near us Maybe it was in Ohio I think that's the highest concentration of But I mean if the big game A Venison and Elk Burger Does not speak to the Joe Rogan

Crossbow hunt and crowd I don't know what would You make many good points here We've found an official route For Arby's to be able to take Arby's are you listening Arby's brothers I'm sorry one of them passed to it

The Raffelle brothers The Raffel family. Are you listening? Is anybody there? Maybe you should listen to us. Honestly, what is it going to take for one of these mother effing fast food places to hire us as consultants? We are doing the Lord's work here. Probably us having like more cogent points than not saying that their diarrhea brown.

But other than that, I think we have really good ideas. That's right. That was a little bit effed up. I'm sorry, Arby's. Hey, listen. As an apology, I'm going to go eat a beef and cheddar with my father. in the car while we say

absolutely nothing to each other Would that make you happy? It would make me happy. All right, Nicole. We've heard what you and I have to say. Yeah. I've had a birt building for a while. But now it's time to find out one of the

radical ideas are out there in the universe. It's time for a little segment we call. Opinions are like cassero. Thank you. Let's fire up that opinion machine. Hi, Josh and Nicole. So my South African family has always made this thing that they said they came up with. And I wanted to know if you've ever heard of it. They call it Angels and Horseback.

Oh. And it's wheat bread with peanut butter, salami, tomato, and Colby Jack cheese, toasted, topped with salt and pepper. I think it's delicious, but everybody that I get to try it just thinks on concept that it's gross. I think it's a good balance of flavor. What do you guys think? So we know angels on horseback to be oysters wrapped in bacon? Yes, and then there's devils on horseback, which is, is that what they call the dates? Yeah, dates stuff with stuff.

Yeah, I don't know what your parents are doing. That's crazy. That's just like a severe miscommunication, I feel like. Right? That's like a hardcore, like, that is. It's just, it's like when my mom called tomato pasta, bitch pasta, because she doesn't know that bitch and whore are different words. So, and pasta putinesca was made by prostitutes. So she goes, she calls any tomato sauce, quote unquote, bitch sauce.

It's pretty funny. I think it's the same exact situation. Mickey, why are you laughing? It's cute. It's the same exact situation. Like, your parents were like, oh, oysters. Hold on. No.

That's not right. Oyster's ripped. wrapped in bacon It's a beat Australian Whatever It's like oysters wrapped in bacon Or not What I think it is

And then they came here and they put Wheatbread on tomato And salt pepper and stuff What was the actual List of foods? There were a lot more I thought there'd be two or three things Because that's what Angels

on horseback is But then they kept going Eat bread with peanut butter Salami Tomato and Colby Jack cheese Toasted Topped with salt and pepper.

Peanut butter salami, Colby Jack cheese, tomato? That's a crazy amount of, that's a crazy combination of foods. I can't imagine

the peanut butter going well with any of that. Weird. Kind of toasted. I've never heard of anything, but there's a

South Africans love making, they call like a briebrody. They like a brie brodie. And they put like tomatoes. What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

But they put like the, the chutney or the pickle or whatever. with the tomato and the cheese and some sort of cured meat sometimes and they grill it, it's all sweet and whatever. It just kind of gets to that, but not really. This might just be your family thing. Is South Africa considered a Commonwealth country?

Yes. Okay. Next. Next. Hi, Malibia, I'm 11. When I was younger, I would make cup microwave mac and cheese. Okay. And I would put ranch seasoning, everything bagel seasoning.

Cheetos and lemon juice And I ate that for the entire summer of 2020 Yeah Yeah Also, Josh and Nicole Do a what I eat in the day Please Oh, I've always thought about doing an actual accurate

What I Eat in a day Because we did one where I pretended to eat everything out of a whole Parmesan cheese That was a good video That like gets like every now and then Like it comes on my feed And it has like a random like 27 million views or something. Yeah, yeah.

Good job. Thank you so much. We like to make alluring content around here. Allure. This sounds great. Also, your voice tripped me up. I didn't believe you when you said you were 11 at first. I'm so sorry.

Some people just have deeper voices. I'm very sorry for my very expressive face. Sometimes it gets me in trouble. I apologize. Well, there was, I believe they were watching television or something because in the background, there was a very faint voice and I couldn't hear where it was coming from. It was freaking me out. Oh, yeah.

So that's what my face was about. Was 2020 during the pandemic? Yeah. That sounds like a pandemic food. 75% of 2020 was during the pandemic. It was started in March. Started in March. But they said summer.

They said summer. So yeah, that's a great pandemic meal. Perfect. Love it. Love the acid from the lemon juice on there. Lemon juice, cheddar cheese, I think goes wonderful together. Yeah, I love Cheetos and things. It's a little sesame poppy seed, chunky garlic in there.

That's fun, man. Hi, my name's Nicole, and this is what I ate in the day. Every morning when I wake up, I make my lunch. myself a coffee with a protein milk and collagen peptides. I get about 35 grams of protein with that. And then I have a, this morning I had a bagel with cream cheese and cherry tomatoes. And then

I had a Madeline as a snack. And then I had a quarter of a chicken capraise sandwich with curry cusscus from Mendocino Farms. And then for dinner, I'm probably going to get something from my mother-in-law because I don't want to cook. Thanks for listening. My name is Josh. I woke up. I had five milligrams of creatine. I then had a scoop and a half of C4 pre-workout powder. I ate a protein bar on my way to the gym. My hair felt like it was burning. I had no water at the gym. I took a shower. Hopefully some absorbed through my skin. I got to work. I had eight ounces of black coffee, despite the fact that I had pre-workout earlier in the day. And then I ate two full cups of ghost protein cereal with a scoop of protein powder. Milk on it. It was not very good. And then I ate a thing of Quest protein chips that I found just laying around the office. I did not enjoy. enjoy it very much. I had half of my Mendocino Farms Thai chicken mango salad before this

podcast. And then I thought, ooh, I'll save the second half for after the podcast. It's a nice little treat for a job well done. And I intend to eat that after this. I will go home and I will eat eight ounces of chicken terriaki with my wife with black forbidden rice and steamed broccoli and then sauteed peppers and onions. And that's what I eat in a day. I might also eat an apple. Was that how you do it? I mean, you could... Ooh, I have a whole pineapple in the fridge at home.

You could have been a little, like, more social media voicey? How much? I also batched out pokey, but it's kind of sat in there for a minute. Oh. So now it's like loamy, low me, loamy. It's kind of, yeah. But I think I'm just going to cook it. I'm just going to kind of stir fry the salmon with the rice.

Okay, crazy. They didn't have any, they didn't have any Ahitunia, not even frozen. Where? I went to Whole Foods. Isn't that crazy? So I made salmon pokey, which I don't love raw salmon. Imagine this is what our podcast was, God. It should be.

Insoffing, what? This is terrible. And then check this out. I made, you know how Sweetfin they have like the carrot pokey? No, I don't go to Sweetfin. It's been a long time. Sometimes we get it for catering. Sometimes we get it for catering.

So we realize that no one is eating the beef. So we're like, what if we got all fish? There's no beef for our young people. There's no beef. Okay. I know. I'm saying. that's why we order it for catering for lunch because we realized our employees don't

eat beef. I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right. They're young college-educated people. They're not eating as much beef. I love meat. They do a carrot. You don't have a college degree.

Oh, that's why they don't. I know. I have an associate's. Is that a college degree? No. And so what they do, it's not. They can think what they want. And so.

What are you getting at? What are you getting at? What is the point? I'm trying to do what I eat in a day. I don't know how they go. You do really badly. Yeah, I'm not a good of social media influencer. All right, next opinion.

Oh, you sexy bitches. I have a hot take, and that is Buda is the perfect food. All right. It is. Budan. It has your rice. It has meat. It's delicious.

Yeah. And there's some vegetables cooked down in there. And it's handheld. Boudam changes your life. Bye. Bye. Boudan is, it's classified as a sausage. However, it's really more of an American haggis.

Oh. It's because it's a very loose. Coarse. Filling. It's very coarse. There's like whole grains in it. Yeah. And it tastes really, it really does taste like haggis.

Hagis-y. I love boudan. I've had some great, great boudain. They'll do fried boudan balls down in Louisiana. I agree. Great way to use up all the parts of the pig that, you know, you don't, I suppose want to eat elsewhere. Right.

I love me some boo-dand. Absolutely agree. Haven't had it enough, but I love all sausages. Truly, I have never met a sausage I don't like. And that's not even on like that like freak stuff. I'm being serious. Like I love all, like I've gone to many parts of the world and every time I've had a sausage, I've had a good time. Look at how coarse this boodan is, dude.

It's like, it's like a, it's more of a moose. It's like literally just like loose. It's coarse. And there's just. grain spilling out of it, dude. Budan's crazy. It does look like you opened up a stomach and there's just food coming out of it. That's what I'm saying. If you stuffed

Boudan into like a sheep's stomach, I think it would really read his haggis. Yeah, I think that's a really good point. Thank you so much. I'm very smart. I know, I told you that today. I said you were too smart, remember? Yeah. I said, yeah. Yeah. Next opinion. Hi, my name is

Brandon from Midwest, or from Iowa. My girlfriend is from Maine, and she is struggling to adapt to casseroles, which are a huge thing here in the Midwest. Any advice for her to get over this hatred of Midwest culture? Thanks.

What's the problem with I also have a casserole-a-versed wife. So I also need some advice. What are you talking about? I love my casserole-a-verse wife, but I have one. So some people prefer to not have all their foods mashed up into one amorphous mass and baked.

The problem is I'm somebody who vastly prefers that. So the other day, I cooked a bunch of mac and cheese for a party, and we kind of ended up with just like loose leftover cooked macaroni. Yeah. I had some like gobbets of meat and vegetables and tomato sauce. Gabbits? It looked like gobbets of meat. You know, like, like Tupperware's of meat?

Yeah, cooked and raw. And I was like, well, this is perfect for a fridge cleaning casserole. I had a bunch of, like, ends of kale. Oh. And I had some leftover romesco that I made and like a half a thing of tomato puree. You know, and I was like, I can chuck this all together for a casserole. But I could tell that Julia was only eating it to be polite. I put a little bit of bechamel on it.

So it was like kale, macaroni, weird almond tomato sauce, gobbets of meat. I don't like that. Probably ground turkey. Oh, you know, it was. It was turkey meatballs that I'd made and I chopped them up. But it was like the perfect Everything was balanced It was creamy

It was still healthy There was vegetables in it Lean meats Loader protein Find out what your girlfriend's Favorite foods are Mash them all together In a cast iron

Bake it off Maybe I don't like Casseroles either, huh? What kind of casseroles You've been eating? I don't eat casseroles I'm not a casserole person You ever have tachine?

That doesn't count Tatching is a cassero It's a perfect cassero How do you compare Tachene to, like, Midwest cleaning out the fridge casseroles? Tachine is exactly a Midwest casserole. No, it's not. It's literally, most Midwest casseroles, it's like rice mixed with cream of mushroom soup and, like, meat and veg. Tachine, it's like rice mixed with yogurt.

That's your people's cream of mushroom soup. Our people's yogurt is cream of mushroom soup. Sure. I thought it was sour cream, but okay. Whatever. For the sake of the conversation. You know, and then you, you know, you know, You know, add, like, the barberries, you know.

I'm, listen. Some shredded chicken. Listen, I'm picking up what you're putting down, but then I'm going to send it right back, all right? All right? All right. All right. I don't like casseroles other than tatching. Thank you. And some sort of bake. I like, I like, is macaroni and cheese a casserole? I think many are baked in. A casserole literally, I think, refers to the style of baking dish. Okay. And so there's no, like, set definition of what a casserole is.

Okay. But, yeah, I would argue most mac and cheeses that are baked, like, that. But I think a casserole implies there's like a casserole implies it's meant to be a complete meal, right? With, you know, like a balanced meal, in fact. But the thing is I don't just serve a casserole. Like if I'm making like a pasta bake. Yeah. So it's a pasta bake. I always have like a vegetable on the side or salad on the side. And a casserole like you can make like casserole style potatoes that are aside. But to me like a true casserole is meant to be a full meal. Something like something like Shepherds by. Okay. Not the one that I made when you came over. That was.

It was so bad, dude. It wasn't that bad. I don't know. I was pretty bummed about it. No, it wasn't. It wasn't really a shepherd's fight. I tried to do a cool. I think I ate around some part of it.

Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's, why did I? The potatoes never got cooked on the top. That's what it was. I didn't eat the potatoes on the top. But don't be disappointed. It's okay. You do great work all the time.

It'd be weird if you didn't have some mistakes throughout your career. But it's okay. Also, I wasn't even supposed to be there, remember? That's right. I kind of was a little bit of an imprompt. two guests. We were happy to have you. It was a nice time.

I know, but still, you know, like, I wasn't even supposed to ever eat those potatoes. Yeah, nobody was supposed to. Just me and my casserole of her's wife, who also did not like the casserole that I made. I was in January. I got to make, I mean,

put all their favorite foods together, mash them up, bake them off, high heat, top it with cheese. See what happens. Make her an ideal castle. Oh, oh, yeah, I forgot. Show her that you care.

Um, put cheese on. Cheese. Cheese. Or topping of Bechamel, dude. Cheese. Top of a castle. Roll with Bech? When in doubt, cheese it up.

That should be Arby's new logo. When in Hellshamel, add Bechamel. Hellshamel isn't a real place. That's fair point. I never thought about it like that. Hey, Justin Nicole, I've been listening to the hot dog as a sandwich podcast and watching Michael Kishin since I was in sixth grade. That's awesome.

I'm about to my senior year of high school. That's crazy. Work at Little Caesars as a manager And last summer we had pineapple Pepsi And it was so freaking good And I want to know if y'all tried it And if you thought it was good I did not

If not I doubt we're ever bringing it back But go get up pretzel crust That a little Caesars near you Because it's so yummy Thank you so much Listen Listen I love pineapple on pizza And why can I have pineapple

and my Pepsi. How did I miss all of... I have to pee really bad. Pineapple Pepsi. I'm going to pee my pants. What? Are we at the time where we're wrapping? Yeah, we're close.

Oh my God, why didn't you pee before? I did. I was not to say something really nice about this person who... The fact that she's been watching since she was in sixth grade and now she's graduating high school, that's incredible. Thank you so much for trusting us with your time and attention and frankly a pretty big developmental part of your life. I think that's really cool.

It's kind of making me emotional, but you have to pee. No, no, it's okay. Continue. I can hold it a little bit longer. That's really sweet. Sorry, I didn't mean to completely jive on, like, ruin your life. That's great. Nicole, I got to poop.

Josh. I got a poop. You got a rabbit. You've got to cut me some slack here. No, but that's really sweet. Thank you for watching all these years. It really is wonderful. I love the work you do at Little Caesars.

I never had to, I got to try a pineapple Pepsi. I'm kind of bummed about it because I love artificial. plant apple flavoring. Me too. Pretel crust at Little Seizers. Absolutely rules. You rule crazy bread for life. We're wrapping it up.

You gotta go peepee. If you want to be featured out of peans like castoralls, give us a ring and let me a quick message at 833.pod1. Bye. Nicole's peeing. You can walk in front of all the cameras. She has a baby. Does this mean the baby's peeing?

And if you want to watch more mythical kitchen, we upload videos all the time over on YouTube. It feels weird without Nicole here. This is susceptibly lonely. I know Meggy's here. but it's different, you know, not having somebody right next to you. I used to think that maybe I could be a solo podcaster because I never shut the hell up. You know, I have a lot of respect for what people like am in Chamberlain do,

just able to sit there and almost have like a didactic, you know, dialogue going between themselves. But now that I sit here, I'm just talking to you face to face, it does feel a bit isolating in a sense. Like I don't have anyone not only challenging my views, but even just sort of acting as like a refractory mirror. Okay, bye. Thank you.