A Lot On Your Plate - Bridezillas, Hen Do Dramas & Wedding Wars

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Hey piggies 🐷💖 This week we're getting into all things weddings, hen dos and the huge expectations (and costs!) that come with them.From expensive destination celebrations and bridesmaid pressur...e to family drama and the rise of the bridezilla, we're sharing our honest thoughts on whether modern weddings have all become a bit too much 👀We also share some of our favourite money-saving tips for wedding season, from budgeting hacks and affordable outfit ideas to thoughtful gifts that won't break the bank.Got a story or dilemma you'd like to share? Pop us a DM on socials or email contact@alotonyourplatepodcast.co.ukAnd remember you can sign up to Patreon for extra episodes every week plus bonus vlog-style content, competitions, group chat, early access to tickets and looooads more! See you there piggies 💖 patreon.com/ALotOnYourPlate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Be Tuesday, guys. Welcome back to a lot on your plate podcast. It's another week. Another day, another sleigh. It's another weekend of the year of 2026. Can you believe it halfway through the year? I think we'll be in July now. By the time this pod comes out.
Starting point is 00:00:24 What the... Flying, freaking hell. It will be... No. Pinch punches tomorrow. Is it the 30th right now? It's the 30th. like the new.
Starting point is 00:00:34 30 days, half, September, April, June and November, yep. Do you do that a lot? I do.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Never. Oh. No. I do that. What is it? Spring forward, fall back with the clocks.
Starting point is 00:00:48 What? Never heard that? What does that mean? Like, if it's spring, you put your clocks forward and when it's full you put them back.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Wow, never heard that one. Have you not? What about never eat shredded wheat? Yes, we say that a lot. I mean, north-east, south-west.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Never need to use that, though. In fact, I feel like I always say that now. By the way, what I'm going to tell you right now is my... I mean, general geography is shit. Mm-hmm. But what's also shit is like... I don't know where Glasgow is. If you know what I mean, like, are we in east of the west, south of the north?
Starting point is 00:01:28 You're in the west of Scotland. That was Irish. Which I get... Look, I do know that part, right? but then it's like when you get more so where's like Hamilton for example I don't fucking know right when people ask you
Starting point is 00:01:40 like in terms of a compass where things are not to get a clue I'm really good at that I also don't understand I study maps yeah but I still wouldn't know like when I was in a place what would be north and south to me
Starting point is 00:01:55 yeah well and I don't think I would and a lot of people I know what direction I'm facing is that what you mean oh no I don't know Oh, you mean like the area. I don't know if I would know what direction I was facing though. That would be weird.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Like if I'm at a beachfront, how do you know if you're north-south-eat or west of anywhere? A lot of the times you'd probably be on the west. Do you do this? It's about to rain. Like I'm not good with the compass, the old compass. Anyway. Cold story, Bruce.
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Starting point is 00:03:48 100 pound voucher I know adulting so on today's act we're going to talk about hendu dramas wedding dramas do you think they're OTT now the cost of it are you planning a hen are you involved in a hen do you still speak to the bride Do you Was it great?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Any tips on wedding? Any tips on saving for a hendu? Yeah, we've got a lot to dissect and we probably will go over to P.Rione again on this one because, whoa, no, do you. I'm excited. But shall we begin with the emails? Let's.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Hi, girlies. This is subject wedding drama. Hi, girlies. I hope you're well. I love the pod so much. I really need your big sis advice. My fiancé. and I get married abroad this year and we are having a small thing in the UK for people who
Starting point is 00:04:35 can't make it to our abroad wedding. The wedding over there will be really small and only family and close friends will be coming over to share our special day with us. My brother has recently met a girl and is really happy with her which we are also happy about as his last girlfriend was not it. You can probably see where I'm going with this. He has asked her to come to not one but both weddings and nobody has even met her yet. All right. Right. My fiancée, and I had discussed that this may happen and we were both agreed that once we have met her we will assess and allow her
Starting point is 00:05:08 to come to the night portion of the UK wedding. It's not a serious thing, it will be filled with workmates, etc., so we'll ease the pressure of both parties, however, when this idea was pitched, it wasn't well received. He doesn't understand the level of planning that has went into this wedding abroad, never mind the money and now expects us to change
Starting point is 00:05:24 all of our plans to suit him. And the worst part is, my mum is on his side and thinks I'm being unreasonable. Like it's some sort of birthday party I'm planning. We will all be staying together in a big villa the week before the wedding and I wanted it to all be my family having a lovely time for the big day and sharing nice moments,
Starting point is 00:05:41 whilst we still all share the same last name. And now I potentially have to have a stranger there. This in turn caused a huge fallout between me and my mum and now we aren't speaking. Oh, fuck. The whole wedding planning has been so stressful as my mum wants to be, wants such a big part of my day to be about her. I'm going to know. and I've made her feel so included in all the steps
Starting point is 00:06:04 but it's just never enough for her and now to feel like she's controlling who is coming is just the final straw. We are less than two months out of our UK wedding and not speaking, oh fucking hell. I don't really know what to do anymore. My fianc wants to get involved and speak to her to try and reason with her,
Starting point is 00:06:19 but I just feel no good we'll come of it. I guess I just want to know if anyone has ever had to be firm with this close to a wedding. Worried my whole family won't even come to the wedding if we can't sort it out but they just don't see it from my side what should I do I'm stressed out my tiny tits
Starting point is 00:06:34 lots of love oh my God I'll say at least you've got tiny tits at least you've got gorgeous tiny tits sis let's take the pose here there's tiny tits and look gorgeous in that dress
Starting point is 00:06:47 that is fucking difficult by the way but you know what I actually agree with this listener like you don't know this girl yet also would I be offended if I was a girlfriend No, I wouldn't. I'd guarantee you now she don't even know.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I bet she'd be mortified if she found out that you're not speaking to your mum because of her. I know. Like she essentially has caused this drama without even knowing it. Oh my God. Well, she's not. The brother has got.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Like the cost. I know, mum. Why don't you freaking pay for her spot then? I know. You want to their, listen. I don't think you've been unreasonable whatsoever. I think it's really good to be firm. It's your wedding at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:07:27 and you've never met her. However, there are lots and lots of weddings where I've been to a few where I've not even met the groom That makes sense I've not met or I've not met him many times at all So I know the bride let's say And she's invited me
Starting point is 00:07:45 And then sometimes they'll have a plus one And then that'll be rich and he's never met either Yeah That does happen And at the end of the day this is your brother So But how about why isn't he making the effort and saying look I want to pay for us all to go for dinner let's I want you to finally meet
Starting point is 00:08:03 her it's your big day I appreciate that this is huge for you and you're going to essentially have to fork out a cost to get her yeah um and it also means a lot to me I really want her there I want us to be massive part of our family it's a great opportunity to be part of family but also do you think she really wants to be in a villa full of people she doesn't even know do you think she'll feel awkward and at what point like do you need to be with someone? someone enough to kind of assume it's in it for the long run. Is it though? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like you don't, you're probably not at that stage of knowing any of this yet and she's like in your moment of your special day, especially when you're having such an intimate thing. Yeah, in the UK. Oh no, abroad, sorry. Like in pictures and all that. I know it's such daft things, but... I'd feel like a right idiot.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So would I just... I don't know. If I was you, I would be... sticking to buy to the decision you've made. But I would also be speaking to my mum and I think I would have a really like deep conversation on like I am literally your daughter
Starting point is 00:09:09 and you're not speaking to me over something that is about another girl who's very new to all of her lives. And I've not even met her yet. Half of us aunt haven't even met her. It's my wedding. I've already included you in this, this and this. I think that's really, really bad
Starting point is 00:09:26 that your mum stop speaking to you. Like I would be having a mental breakdown in front of my mum. Like, are you fucking kidding me on? Are you crazy? Yeah. But is she maybe the kind of mum that just really wants, like, both our kids to have, like, marriage and kids and now that the son's got a new girlfriend, it's all... Yeah, but now she's willing to completely ruin the whole moment because of a stranger.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Mm-hmm. She thinks she just really wants, like, her family to be complete there, which in turn means that, like, he's also got a plus one. But this is not her day, though. Also, it's, it's, uh, the husband's a B's day as well and his family. It's really selfish. It's really selfish. Yeah, it's just all about her.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I think there's a lot of dynamics, um, issues, sorry, when you're planning a wedding with parents or people getting involved saying you need to invite your aunt Maud or your uncle freaking Trevor. Who's actually your mom's old house neighbor? Yeah. And it's like, no, I fucking don't. Yeah. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Um, I. I feel like the bit that we can park is you don't need invite this girl, right? Well, I'm sorry, but how old would it be now if you're then invited her? I think you'd just wait. I think you'd invite her to maybe the night part of the home bit, if that's what you're comfortable with. And that's quite nice, a nice wee gesture. If they stay together forever, she can say she was out of your wedding.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Or you could invite her to the day of the UK wedding if you meet her a few times and you really like her and you think, you know what? Yeah. This is brilliant. Do you know what? She might even say, look, I don't want to go to the abroad. in anyway it's too much. The thing is it's all been planning in advance so if you come in after that planning's been made it's kind of just part of it yeah if they want to add
Starting point is 00:11:11 you and they can fit you in great if they can't that's understandable as well but I just feel really sad that the mum's now not speaking to you because regardless of what you do about this girl it's not even really about that anymore it's more it's now about you and your mum yeah how sad that you're about to have a special day with your husband to be all about your love for each other and it's clouded and overshadowed with your mum being so selfish
Starting point is 00:11:39 and making it all about her like right now your focus hasn't getting everything organised for the wedding and being excited. It's to try and rekindle your relationship with your mum, yeah. Terrible. I can't even imagine being in that position, honestly. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Same to be honest. I think stick tea guns. It's your day, sis. I'm sorry. I do think trying to sort it with your mum. I do think you should try and meet her, the girl. Yeah, yeah, I think that'd be really nice.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It'd be nice for your brother. Yeah, because if this wedding wasn't happening, you would be meeting just normally at a slow pace. Yeah. No issues with any of it. But it's now going to end up because there's a wedding in the mix. Fallouts are happening. You're having to maybe rush meeting with someone
Starting point is 00:12:26 and everyone feels about uncomfortable. It's just not great timing for anyone really. That's a show. shame. Okay, I was made of honour for an abroad wedding, which I was genuinely happy to do. The issue wasn't the role, it was everything that came with it. She also wanted an away hen do, and I raised early on that some people in the group were worried about costs. And a broad hen on top of an broad wedding, felt like too much for a lot of us. She acted as though she understood, but then went ahead and found a deal online and pushed for us to book it anyway. I had just moved into
Starting point is 00:13:01 my house at the time, so the financial pressure was sued. She later said she wanted a home-based hendoo as well But reassured us that she would cover the bridesmaid's cost Because there was no way she'd make us pay for true hendos In reality she didn't pay for anything And we ended up covering everything for her on the night She also criticised me for leaving the day after the wedding To go on holiday with my fiancée
Starting point is 00:13:22 Even though I'd cleared it with her months before And she originally said she thought it was a great idea She then claimed she was planning something the next day Which felt more like an attempt to guilt trip me To avoid upsetting her I even booked a private car car for 120 euros instead of taking a 10 euro public transport bus so I could spend more time with her before leaving. In the end
Starting point is 00:13:41 there was no plan the next day and she didn't even make the effort to see us or thank anybody for travelling. Throughout the process she made several digs about how I hadn't put much effort in and she even texted me implying I was desperate to attend the wedding and leave. I was furious. I'd spent almost £3,000 and talk between flights, accommodation and bridesmaid responsibilities. She sowed no understanding of how expensive everything was and didn't appreciate even the basics.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I spent a fortune on travel, accommodation, decor, gifts and use a lot of my annual leave for her. Now that I'm engaged myself, the idea of anyone spending that kind of money on my wedding makes me deeply uncomfortable. When you're an adult with responsibilities, both money and time are incredibly precious. It's safe to say we no longer speak
Starting point is 00:14:24 and I generally feel that my life is so much easier without her in it. Weddings have gone too far now. I don't even look back on it as a wedding and felt more like it was a giant party for them. Falling on, the bride and her fiancé is rich, alongside our new friends who are also rich too. Okay. Just sounds like they're extremely out of touch.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Correct. She's went into, like, a new group and a new, like, reality. Yeah. That isn't yours, and isn't probably your other friends that you're in a group with. And I do think people just become so out touch. Like, what I find so funny is,
Starting point is 00:14:58 and this is just me being overly paranoid, I kept saying to Jess, did I sound out of touch in last week's episode? not two weeks episode ago when I was talking about hendos and like when you commit to it you just need to commit but for me it's like
Starting point is 00:15:11 you either you should be in a comfortable group and the head of this the head of the hendu or the bride should only ask people that kind of form a comfortable group as well do you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:15:26 like if you've got a rich pal they can come and lower themselves to your standards but you can't expect everybody else to do that everyone to what's the word hire hire themselves to the rich pal standards like that's just not feasible for people
Starting point is 00:15:43 and I think that's the difficulty with it all but I think in this situation you've made the best decision of just almost cutting her out your life because you felt so unappreciated for a start it kind of sounds as if it took over your life
Starting point is 00:16:00 a bit like you had to for out for everything you had to take on like all the planning of the away hen, the home hen. And she was being a bit twisted. And then just kind of pretending things were happening. To almost say to you, well, you weren't there. Yeah. When actually nothing was ever happening, you knew that deep down.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And also in comparison to probably her rich friends, the effort you made in terms of financial is nothing. So to her it doesn't... Which is so shocking. It's awful. Also, by the way, 100 pound to 5,000 pound So relative
Starting point is 00:16:35 Is that what you're going to say? No, I was going to say Someone invests in 100 pounds into your day But someone invests in 5 grand It's the same level of Like love and support Yeah, totally Like it's still someone's finances that are
Starting point is 00:16:51 I mean it's all relative to them To be gifted to you, uh-huh But it's actually no better a gift or better an experience Yeah Because one it's all relative but two it's actually the bottom line of it all is you've decided to get married
Starting point is 00:17:05 you've decided if you want in a broad home hen both or in a broad wedding or whatever and any commitment that someone can make to any part of that should be good enough. It's enough yeah just you being there is enough it should be enough yeah and don't get me wrong
Starting point is 00:17:22 I can imagine if you're having an abroad hen and there's a few people that you wish could come and they couldn't you would feel a bit like initially disappointed I get that. But I think it comes with disappointment but I would say like I'm really gutted but understand. I think the terminology
Starting point is 00:17:37 Bridezilla is definitely real. Yeah, I think so too. I think more people... Yeah, and more people than not are that. And I think you just become so out of touch of what everyone else is going on because yeah, okay, you've asked me to come and you're a broad hen but
Starting point is 00:17:54 before you asked me I also committed to a family holiday with my two kids and my parents to a villa for two weeks in Spain and I've also got another wedding that I've had to book an overnight for because it's the hour's drive away and I also probably don't have the annual leave to take
Starting point is 00:18:08 but the bride doesn't they think about all of those things they're only thinking about you coming on her hen so you do forget about other people's life that's still going on whilst you're getting married adulting I feel quite grateful I don't think we've had to really over-experience it
Starting point is 00:18:24 I've never and I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't put up with it. Yeah. I wouldn't. Point blank. I also wouldn't expect anyone to do that for me either though. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And like I said to you last week, I'd front the cost if it was something extravagant. If I want to do it that bad, I'd front the cost. But again, that's what I was meaning with the expectation or like commitment. If you just don't want to be a burden or devote that, I would rather you just said, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I wouldn't be bothered by that. I only want to be. you there if you feel comfortable enough to come and you can afford to and it's not going to. The last thing you would ever want your friend to do is get themselves into some awful debt and have terrible anxiety after it as well and worry about it. Or dread my wedding or dread my hand do. I don't want any of my friends to feel like that. No. Yeah. I know exactly. Don't do it to yourself guided. Say no. Say no more. Absolutely. Right. Right. Right. But also, like we said, I do think it is important.
Starting point is 00:19:28 in a lot of situations to just turn up for your friends as well. There's such a line. A family. You know, when we were talking about people saying no more because anxious just don't want to do it, sometimes to be there for your friends, you need to get out of your comfort zone sometimes
Starting point is 00:19:43 to do things and you probably end up having a really freaking good time. Right, let's continue. So, just watch your recent app and I thought I would chip in with my Hendu and wedding experience. Experience. When I got married, I decided to plan most of my own Hendoo, not because I'm a control freak, but because I genuinely didn't want to put pressure on my bridesmaids,
Starting point is 00:20:00 we all have our own lives and jobs, families and stresses, and I felt guilty knowing my friends were worrying about organising something for me. A good point also. We love it, we love it. Exactly what we're just saying. My maid of honour was an angel and insisted on helping, which I'm so grateful for because honestly I was getting so stressed about it that I nearly cancelled the whole thing, lull.
Starting point is 00:20:18 For context, my hendoo was in Manchester for one night and was £200 each. This included all food, all drink, travel, hotel and activities. no one paid a penny on the day or the night. Nice. Two weeks before the hen do, I got an email saying when our main activity had been cancelled. My maid of honour was at a wedding at the time,
Starting point is 00:20:36 so I didn't want to bother her. Instead, I reached out to my other brides because I was stressed and didn't know what to do. What upset me was that not one of them offered to help find an alternative activity or ask what they could do to help. If the roles had been reversed, I know I would have jumped in straight away to help them.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Because I planned most of the hen myself, I also found it difficult to fully relax and enjoy it instead of being present. I spent a lot of the day and night worrying about whether everyone was having a good time. I felt something similar during the wedding planning too. My bridesmaids rarely checked in and one of them never bothered once to check in to ask how things were going. How I was feeling or whether I needed any help.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I completely understand that it's my wedding and nobody is ever going to care about it as much as I do. I'm also not someone who likes asking for help or making a fuss, but I do think a simple text saying how's the planning going or let me know if there's anything I need to do would have gone a long way. I think part of why I struggle with this is because I went out of my way to make things as easy as possible for everyone. I paid for my own hen, paid for the bridesmaid dresses. That's a big one.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Good topic to discuss. Their hair and makeup on the wedding day. Okay, you know, we love it. They're flowers, PJ slippers, breakfast and lunch on the morning of the wedding, drinks while they were getting ready. And of course, their meals too. It genuinely didn't have to pay a penny towards being a bridesmaid. And I was more than happy to do that because I wanted to do that because I wanted to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:54 because I wanted them to enjoy the experience and not feel any financial pressure. But when I'd made such an effort to take the stress and cost away from everyone else, I think I would have liked a little bit more emotional support in return. Maybe I'm overthinking this. And I know nobody's a mind reader. I'd love to know whether other brides have felt the same way.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Is it unreasonable to expect your bridesmaids to be a bit more involved and supportive, even if you're not directly asking for help? Or is it this just one of those realities of weddings that nobody really talks about? That's actually a good way to look at it, isn't it? Yeah. I'd be like that, you know
Starting point is 00:22:29 I think if I plan my head in I'd be very much in my head thinking what's next, what's next, what's next? Yeah. Just because I love an itinerary. Mm-hmm. And I am like that a lot, but when it comes to something and join me fully, I think I would probably then have to let somebody plan my day for me,
Starting point is 00:22:45 let me really let my hair down. I don't know if I could give up the control. Would you want to plan your own hand do, would you? I don't know if I'd want to plan my own hand do, but I would like to know. Yeah, what you'd do? and so you can be organised. I would quite like to be given options
Starting point is 00:23:01 and then I would approve. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no. That's fair. And it's, that's not even in a diva way. It's just in like a, at the end of the day it is for you.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah. So you kind of do want it to be what you'd want to do. And obviously you choose a bridal party or even if you don't have a bridal party. Your friends, your friends for a reason, like you're all probably similar to an extent, right?
Starting point is 00:23:23 So what you like is most likely what I like or you know what I like. But I still think, for example if you were planning mine but I asked a couple of people from say a job right that you don't know I would maybe want to see what you were planning
Starting point is 00:23:40 so that I could make sure it kind of suited everyone like just things like that just kind of cross-check it a bit you know but I think with what this girl's saying is I do think it's a shame she felt like they weren't even maybe really interested at all to even be like how's things going on the other part
Starting point is 00:23:57 I agree with what she's saying that it's her world that's upside down. She's getting married right now, not everyone else's. But you know when you are asked to be a bridesmaid though, that isn't that, I've never been one in my adult life. So isn't that a responsibility that you take on board though to help the bride on the day? Well, it is right. Or is it an old traditional thing?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Well, I guess that's the question. Right. Because personally, if I was having bridesmaids, I don't think I would give you a job I just want you like there with me in the morning but I just want you there for fun funzies yeah like I just want you there getting your hair makeup done with me
Starting point is 00:24:39 because why I'd want to do that I'm on company whereas traditionally and what a lot of people still do though I think is like who's pouring that drink for you yeah but you would do that and who's taking the pictures for you I don't know you ask you to do that they'll do it no I know but maybe there's some friends that are like
Starting point is 00:24:55 I don't want her to lift a finger today so I'm gonna. I know this is so deep but I honestly think it's like look at your fucking pals. Yeah. I don't need to ask anyone if anyone I think about
Starting point is 00:25:06 who would be in the morning of my wedding you don't need to be tasked you will be coming up to me and saying what music do you want on do you want a drink? Can I do anything? Yeah. Like say fucking cookie was there
Starting point is 00:25:18 do you want me to take it out like just you would all do that and I know you would I would even ask you to do it. If I get to the top of the fucking aisle one of you would fix my dress. Again, I don't need you ask you. You know that I would want that.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, so true. And it's so difficult to say because I don't want to say to people your pals are just shite. But I do think there's an element. Makes you made careful of who you're picking your brow party. I do honestly think that because I even,
Starting point is 00:25:43 like was talking about my 30 to one of my pals are day who might not be able to make it. I even said to her, I was like, oh, you're a good vibe as well. Like you just know people who will bring what you want them to bring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And I think you should choose wisely with this. Yeah. And see if you've just got a group that's very chill and maybe you don't socialise that much together but you want them as part of your special day, why not just have them there in the morning but don't have bridesmaids? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:11 If you feel like it's a bit of a boundary that you don't really feel comfortable to asking them and it's not natural for them to do it either. I wonder if that's the maid of honest job there, isn't she, is she the boss? does she tell everyone what to do? Yeah Oof I'd be a fucking good made honour
Starting point is 00:26:30 by the way You would But I think I'd take on bride cellar for the bride Yeah And then in turn And then you enjoying yourself Probably not
Starting point is 00:26:38 I would love that though Would you And I think this is the difference I think It's so daft to say But I think when you Have worked in events You just see it so differently
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like that's an event to me So I'm like I'm fucking ready what do you want? I've got my notes app out. I've got my notep out. I've got my notepad and I'm ready. Yeah. And at the end of the day I'll say I gave her a massive fucking great wedding.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah. Like job done. Whereas people who are literally... But then equally, obviously, I'll be like, oh, I really hope you enjoyed yourself though. You didn't feel like your own job. But I would. That is enjoyable to me.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, but there's not many people like you though in that situation. But that's what I'm saying. People who are like not in that world at all or have never even like thought about it in that way. Yeah. Just don't see it like that. And that's so fair enough as well, by the way. Like, why would you expect your maid of honour if I can checklist out, you wouldn't?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Imagine the maid of honour had to go up to the DJ to say, your tunes are a bit shy, we need to change them. I'd confidently go up to them and say, look, we need to switch us up a bit. Oh, with no qualms doing that. But there's so many girls that would be like, I'm not doing that. No, I know. I'm embarrassed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It is so difficult because it is very dependent on who you've got around you. Hmm. So I think it's more like, for me it's like to save disappointment, I would be choosing wisely. And if there's no one really in that role, just have your pals as bridesmaids for fun and maybe get like your mum on hand say like can you just,
Starting point is 00:28:08 would you mind just keep my wee eye on everything? Also, there's people that work there for a reason. Yeah, like you're not the staff. If you don't want to task your friends or family with anything on your wedding day, which I get, and naturally no one probably does really want to do that. that you're probably spending an absolute freaking arm and leg for. Say to them at your meetings before it or on the day.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Who's going to be there on the day? Like who's my point of contact? Tell your mum or maybe one of your pals. That's the guy that if anyone needs anything, go and speak to him. And then there's a few people that know. Because it might even be, what if I go to say a speech in the mic's too loud?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Someone in that room needs to say there's that. Excuse me. Someone needs to go and find him. Yeah. So I do just think it's like, doesn't need to be serious. tasks so that they don't have a good day. But I just think
Starting point is 00:28:56 if it's my friend's wedding, I'm making sure you have the best day. I'm fine to do a bit of grafting. Because once the dance floors up, you relax. Get a few shots down, yeah. Absolutely. Four years ago I got married and it ended
Starting point is 00:29:16 a 15 to 20 year friendship with my friend. Oh my goodness. Tell us. We'd always been very close but as we got older I noticed she'd strong opinions on other people's life choices. These opinions often shifted depending on her life stage. For example, she was fine with moving in with a boyfriend or partying until she decided otherwise. She got engaged young, had children and always said she wasn't bothered about getting married.
Starting point is 00:29:39 A couple of years later, I got engaged and booked a destination wedding for two years later. Since it was abroad, I kept my bridal party small and chose my childhood best friend as made of honour. Knowing she'd be upset not to be a bridesmaid, I asked her daughter to be one of my flower again. girls. She later admitted she'd expected to be a bridesmaid. Ironically the following week she booked her own wedding and immediately asked me to be a bride's made.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Oh. Then COVID hit. We had to postpone her wedding and the only suitable date was 1st of June. 22, just two weeks before hers. I felt awful and called her straight away, telling her completely understood if she no longer wanted to attend.
Starting point is 00:30:17 She said she wouldn't be coming because it was too close to hers. To be considered I even moved my hand due to the previous October so there was no clash with her wedding celebrations. A few months later her maid of honour asked for a full payment for her hendoo. At the time, I was a self-employed brow artist who'd barely worked during COVID and I generally couldn't afford it. I called my friend and explained the situation, suggesting we celebrate separately closer to the wedding. She wasn't understanding at all and even suggested I used money
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'd saved my own wedding to pay for her hendoo. Wow! I was really hurt because I'd given her complete grace over my wedding but didn't receive the same in return. We never spoke again after that conversation. I still feel sad about how our friendship ended, but looking back, I realise some friendships are meant to last a lifetime while others are just for a season. Yes. The Justin Bieber reference there. Although it was painful, I feel much lighter without a friendship that's become so
Starting point is 00:31:06 one-sided and judgmental. It's sad that these dramas always seem to happen with girls and never with the boys. Love the pod girls. I'm an avid listener. My first thought on that whole thing is, why can you know go out a wedding? Two weeks before your own wedding? Because yours is just two weeks later. I agree. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Why can you know what to do that? You absolutely can. Your best mates wedding? A one-off. Can I tell you if anyone that was invited my wedding at the wedding the night before, I'm still expecting you come to mind? It's not in the same day.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I agree. Why can't you come? Unless one abroad. You wouldn't expect someone to come to your wedding if it was their wedding the next day. No, I mean. Yeah. they were at a wedding on the Thursday
Starting point is 00:31:55 but they were at their other pals on Wednesday and they're both in Glasgow why not coming to mine the next day as well like I just were social butterflies like what I don't think that's hard it's not if you don't want it to be obviously circumstantial if one's abroad or if one is away somewhere
Starting point is 00:32:12 with an expensive overnight or something right financial yep but I think if we're talking they're both pretty local two weeks apart and it's your friend which you knew was getting married anyway the friend who you've asked to be a briseman
Starting point is 00:32:28 to your wedding by the way there's just slight different in date now why you know going to that two weeks before I'm confused by that I think that's all the that's all she really needed to know about that friendship to be honest yeah I agree and then for you to be so sound with her saying no
Starting point is 00:32:44 but because you couldn't go to her abroad then because of you're about to pay probably I'm going to guess about their to grand for your own wedding. Yeah. For her to then be fuming about that and that's why you've not spoke. I'm not spoke sense.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It's fucking ridiculous. I just can't imagine I've been like that, can you? No. And I don't know if it's because we're just not in that mindset at all and none of our friends made really are, but this blows my mind. I just don't know if it is just like people who their aim is to like marriage and kids, right?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Which a lot of people have that. there's no judgment on that. It's also a lot of how people have been brought up as like traditional life, right? Fucking somebody's got to do it, so fair fucks. But do you all just get so invested in the fact that like a whole group are planning weddings, having babies getting engaged,
Starting point is 00:33:43 that it does become a bit of a natural competition or like a natural just like comparison. It will be that. Then you all start falling out over it. Like it fucking, my heeds on the floor thinking about it. Falka ain't money. I would lose my shit if I had to deal with someone like that.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I know. And if I ever do, by the way, I'll shout it from the rooftops and tell you. Yeah, please do it. I think that's so sad. Hendo dramas, please keep me anonymous. I went to a Hendo for a full weekend, travelled 400 mile round trip,
Starting point is 00:34:19 spent 400 quib plus, had annual leave for my work and just got an invite to the wedding reception. I felt like it was constantly asking for money for this and for that at the hen and a lot of pressure to go to it all but then to only get an evening reception invite was a bit of kicking the tea
Starting point is 00:34:34 oh by the way I feel like if you're invited something like that it should mean you are special enough to be there for the whole day I felt like a lot of the numbers that were there were for more to look good on social media than anything else by the way yeah
Starting point is 00:34:47 I feel like it can grow arms and legs and everyone just expected to pay because it's the benefit the bride okay yeah I think that's shocking that's a good one I bet you a lot of people think that I'd be feeling about that
Starting point is 00:35:00 absolutely currently spending a fortune attending a hen that's coming up in July themed outfits day night activities travel accommodation food and drink etc
Starting point is 00:35:08 but I think we have to show up for the people that we love so what I think's worth saying here as well by the way right I think the difference is behind us as they come at a time
Starting point is 00:35:19 that's not like it's not by choice of you yeah right? but at the end of the day it's a holiday do you go in a holiday with your partner or your friends at any other time
Starting point is 00:35:35 and not pay for your hotel flight and all your food and drink there but I guess what in the circumstance of this would be though summer lasts for let's say like May to August you probably a lot of people probably don't want to go away in August because it's prices of sky high right
Starting point is 00:35:51 you're then paying a lot of money to go to a Hindu with people that you probably don't really like that much. Sometimes you do. Of course you do. Sometimes it's great people. But sometimes it might be people that you don't know at all. And then a month or two late you then got to have the same sort of money saved, if not more, to go away with your partner,
Starting point is 00:36:09 in the only holiday allocation that you have for the whole entire year. Yeah. It's hard. No, I totally agree with that. But I think my point there is once you've said yes, I'm going. Yeah. You don't say yes. Yes, you're going on a holiday with your partner,
Starting point is 00:36:27 your friends at any other time and not fucking have to pay for anything. Yeah. I see what you mean. So people are like, A Hen do, and by the way, I find it so hard to word this so that I don't sound tone deaf because it's not what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:36:40 But yes, a hand do comes with a lot of costs, but so does any holiday? Yeah. Like, you're entering in, I get a chat, right? Willingly. Willingly, by the way, like, say no if you don't want to go. But then, I guess, saying no is hard if it's someone that you really, really love or you're crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, but I think for me, I think in this fucking day and age, if you genuinely can't afford to go, then people should be able to understand. If you're not willing to stick on a credit card, you say, I can't fucking afford to come, I'm sorry. And don't have a guilt about it, just leave it out. And if they're annoyed at you, that's on them, it's not on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 But if you commit, see before you know it, you've paid for a hotel, a flight and maybe a few deposits for a booking. It isn't actually any different from a girl's holiday apart from it. bit more up front. See at the end of it if you actually look at cost. I know sometimes themes mean you need to buy things you don't have, right? But if you're anything like us, you're buying new holiday clothes every time you go in holiday because you can't help yourself, right?
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm addicted to ASOS. You're paying for your treatments and everything. Even if I go away with Jason, it doesn't cost me any less than it does going ahead of or going away with you lot. Like it's just the same cost. It's just that it comes maybe as well as wanting to do a family holiday. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And I do think people chat about how bad the cost are and I'm like, you don't get a holiday for free and it is just a holiday at the end of the day Yeah Do you know what I mean? I get that it also comes with people It's probably like the...
Starting point is 00:38:08 Telling you what to do, yeah It's like the lack of control You're paying something to not really know what you're doing And maybe for an it might be something They don't really want to do An itinerary that you don't really love But then sometimes you want these Hindus And they're like fucking class
Starting point is 00:38:21 I know I think sometimes it's just about I think sometimes people just love to moan about it if I'm honest but at the end of the day you're getting an amazing experience with hopefully people that if you're if you've got a backbone and you're saying no
Starting point is 00:38:36 the ones you don't want to the ones you're saying yes to you're going to your group of pals or your family people who you love want to spend time with you're going to the sun for three four days you're doing amazing experiences you're on a boat you're in a villa you're in a restaurant like what is actually not to love about that I think it's just the moaning and the
Starting point is 00:38:53 lead up of like, it's costing this, cost me that. But you're getting an amazing experience out of it. I do. When you say it like that, I suppose, 100%. Here's another one saying that she didn't feel like a bridesmaids pulled away. I felt like my bridesmaids didn't pull their way. I got married a few months ago and I've not spoke to any of them since our wedding. No, all of them fucked.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, I hadn't really spoken to them before either. What, and then they stood by it? No. No one had asked me how I was. They did not ask me or really offer to do anything. I feel almost like it ruined my experience a little bit at. times when I've asked them things or to do anything I was met with I'm busy or why. They organised my hendoo which I enjoyed but I felt like it was all over so quickly.
Starting point is 00:39:32 It was six months before my wedding and unfortunately I also took really unwell. But there was nothing in the run up to the wedding. My mum's tried at her absolute best to pull everything out of the bag for me. My mum is amazing. When my husband was on his stagdo a few weeks before the wedding, I invited the girls round for a night in to retry their dresses on. Get a takeaway, just chat, etc. But they all made their excuses and left as quick as they arrived.
Starting point is 00:39:53 my God. When I told my husband how I felt a matter of days before our wedding and he said I definitely deserve more and he'd be my bridesmaid in the run up to our wedding. What? Oh my God, no wait. We could do whatever I wanted, afternoon tea, etc., which we did not have time for, but he did arrange for my mum and I had to go for lunch at a stunning hotel just after I picked up my wedding dress. Ultimately, our wedding was absolutely perfect and I got married to the most amazing man I've ever met and I'm just so grateful for that. But a wedding is one of the biggest events in your life and you choose these people to be part of that special event in your life with you. I just feel quite let down by this situation.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Aw. That's a shame. By the way, you looked absolutely gorgeous. Stalking you. Do you know what the bottom line all of this is, right? This is why his words come to you for Auntie Zoe. As people are not honest enough in their friendships. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:54 and then somebody gets engaged and then somebody asks you all to be bridesmaids or you ask them to be bridesmaid and until that point people are maybe not as invested in the friendship with someone else or then maybe try to be pull away and then fuck will you be my bridesmaid
Starting point is 00:41:15 it's like shit I'm now gonna fucking and then because you've now said that you're not going to say no because you're a shite bag we all are who the fuck say no to that yeah and then because the way you actually feel about said person or the way you feel about your friendship you're then just a bit of a shit bridesmaid because you're like I don't even want to be doing this and that's what I think a lot of the times happen here is that a lot of
Starting point is 00:41:38 people are just kind of like surface level friends because we're all growing up and one person in that friendship thinks it's just because we're busy yeah another person it's more like I'm just not actively invested in this invested in this anymore and then they ask you be a fucking bridesmaid that are wedding which is so so sad on both sides because I would hate to be like I'd hate to feel trapped in that situation I'm like fuck I don't really like be their
Starting point is 00:42:03 bridesmaid yeah and how'd you have the heart to say I don't really want to be a brisade because but then you're better doing that and then you wouldn't be able to and you wouldn't be able to go though because it's like what excuse are you making not what's I kind of got your wedding I know that's two year away but I do think a lot of it is that though it's that
Starting point is 00:42:22 a lot of people maybe are so invested maybe like they're part and kids or whatever that their friendship group from school for example is their core group still but maybe a couple of the girls in that core group have got other friends and that's maybe more their best pals now if we're going to get technical about it and like a bit petty about it yeah so like you and the bee her bride's made anymore but she's still yours yeah and then it just comes with like they're not really that in sheds but i'm like but it's because they're not though you've just grown apart which is sad yeah but it's probably the truth of that a lot of the time. Very true. Very frequent here. But equally I'm not saying it so I'm an adult won't be your pal anymore. No. So you just got to crack on with it. Yeah. Love the pod. This is such an interesting topic. I do think some weddings and hendos, etc. are getting over the top and it just seems like they are all for show on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:43:17 However, I also think it is fine for people to have slash want an abroad hen and wedding. No one is being forced to go. My friend got engaged and when she told her, girl group chat that her and a fiancé were booking a wedding in Italy. Another friend, rudely said, well, you can't have your head in Ibitha and then you can't expect people to pay for both. Said wedding had been postponed due to pregnancy, so it will be interesting to see what happens. I just think if you can't make one or either you politely decline, any reasonable couple would be understanding of that. I got married last year and we saved money by having a twilight wedding. We had an abroad stag and hendoo with family and close friends and it was honestly the best time
Starting point is 00:43:56 ever. Agnie? I have two weddings next year and as a result two hens. No solid plans yet as too early to book flight, etc. I want to be at both but I'm already stressing about the costs. I've never been abroad for a hen before and at the point in my life where there's going to be lots of weddings, so lots of money. It's an exciting time but any advice on how to budget and plan ahead as best as I can could be appreciated. I know I'm not the only one in this boat. I love the pod and the advice you galley's give. That's so freaking cute. I also think that's a good point to make because I think it's easy to say as well
Starting point is 00:44:34 just embrace it and treat it as a holiday and whatever if you've got one that year I've never been in the position of having multiple I'm not multiple or abroad either no and I do honestly sympathise with those stages that groups seem to go through
Starting point is 00:44:51 of like a broad weddings or even just loads of weddings that are close by but it's all overnights it's gift It's whatever. Like, it can be a big financial burden on people. I want to get married. I've got loads.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Most my pals ain't married. So I read this message last night and I wrote a few bits and tips down by the way. So I thought I would share them. Love that. So ways to budget for a hendoo. Check if your bank does saving pots. Last year, Monzo did the one penny pot and I accepted to do it. And all it was was one penny a day and every day increased.
Starting point is 00:45:30 by 1P. And by the end of the year, I had £677 in my pot, right? So that's a great amount for maybe you're spending money or maybe the accommodation and flights, right? Now this year, they've opted in for something called 4P a day. So it starts at 4P and every day it goes to 4P so it's a lot more money. Well, like 40, 12, 16. Yes. Right. Now eventually it gets to the point of the year where you're going to be paying something like, because even the 1P a day one, On day 364, you're paying £3.64. Yeah. The next day is £3.65.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So I almost saw it as nearer to the end of the year or whenever I started the part, it was like buying a cheap coffee a day. Yeah. Which I probably would have done quite a lot of the times anyway. And so the four P a day one is a bit more. But what gave me the huge incentive was that by January, I'll have £2,671 and 10 pence with the interest that Monso give you on top just by doing a four pound a day. And honestly, I haven't really seen a difference in my, it coming out my bank.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Like it's not stung me that much at the moment because it's such tiny weeny amounts. Yeah. It's literally pence at this point. So that's a really good one if you're, you don't want to be saving like large chunks of money a day. Like a month, like 200 pound here and there, a hundred pound a month. If you want to try and get something that's just, you know, it seems invisible, then try that. For outfits, right, shop on Vinted because there's going to be so many hand-dos that do themes. So let's say you've got a theme.
Starting point is 00:46:59 where it's like fucking, I don't know, Gatsby, right? This is an example. There will be so much shit. Think of all the outfits that people buy for Hennews at the weather one time. Yeah. Also, so many nice outfits, right? And then this also made me think as well. Splitwise is an amazing app to download
Starting point is 00:47:18 when you're in a large group of people. Yeah. Because it makes things so fair and it does it all accurately. So you all need to download the app split-wise to make it work. But you use that a lot, don't me? Yeah, we did it a lot in skiing as well. And then I think we might have mentioned it on the pod, to be fair. And then when you input the receipt at the end, you just pop in what you did.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Or let's say you and the girls go away and get all the food from the shop, but you just pop in, just paid this, this, this, but then it divides that between all of the group. But you can exclude people from the group that weren't included in it. So let's say it was like an alcohol shop, but somebody who doesn't drink alcohol, you could just add it and spit it. So that's a really good one to keep everything fair once you're away, so you don't have to stress about that. But then I was thinking about things to give for gifts for a wedding that don't cost an arm and leg. And these are the sort of things that I think I would love way fucking more than a John Lewis voucher. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I just went to a wedding there and my friend, she, to be fair, she's a designer, but you could get this of Etsy. She painted my friend's bouquet. So she got a gift where she painted like in a really gorgeous illustration of the bouquet because her wedding was. before to be fairs it was like a different celebration and she could see it so that we can even get that afterwards and send it so that she's got that framed it looks so nice um you could even offer to get their bouquet press so you know i can press flowers from people's bouquets and keep that as a keepsake um you can get a drawing made from their wedding venue you can get lyrics from their first dance you could even make a candle for them and use their wedding sense in the wax
Starting point is 00:48:55 i just thought this last night i thought how good would that be so they can burn it it reminds them of day. So you could ask them like did you wear like Joe Malone whatever or and you could find the dupes of it and just make a candle. That's cute. You could handpaint a special bottle of alcohol for them. There's loads of bottle companies that paint really gorgeous things. You could have like Mr. and Mrs. whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You could also get a disposable camera from the hen do and make a photo album from the hen or stag, bridal party, whatever and make a scrapbook for them. And you can get all the messages from all the brides in that and something like that. Even if it's a close friends, you could just do that from like your friendship journey.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, if you're going to your close friends, it doesn't necessarily need to be about like the bride and the groom. Like, no. If it's one of your close pals, the groom's not going to be like, where's my involvement? Yeah. I'm not going to care about that. Still cute. Do you know what I would absolutely love if I ever got married and had a big massive celebration? You know how I collect my corks? Yeah. I would want every single bottle that was popped at my wedding. I want everyone to write in pen on that cork who popped it and what it was and give me all the corks so I can keep them in a little in a little
Starting point is 00:50:06 bowl. It's a cool idea, isn't it? So they'll just some like good ideas but I could imagine going on Etsy you can get so many thoughtful things that you could get for your friend that doesn't cost you an arm and and a leg and also they'll remember that forever. Also I just think who's opening their wedding gifts and going, oh, they only got me that? no I know they're not like do you know what I mean and if they are
Starting point is 00:50:28 fuck them I'm only doing that if I had like a little uncle do what I mean yeah it's like oh god you only put 20 quid in but that's like you're doing it it it's funny like I would never ever say anything like that about like my pals or fat like I just wouldn't like
Starting point is 00:50:46 I just don't know I feel like our mindset in it is like you came to my day and that's enough yeah right we're going to look into the quick fire response and then we'll roll this over into Patreon because we've got so much more someone said there needs to be a poll on how many bridal parties
Starting point is 00:51:02 still speak to the brides sorry I think that is so sad some girls are too focused on it looking good for the gram and prioritise that more which makes it less enjoyable for the hens yeah cost of enough to put you off doing any of it yourself it's getting out of hand
Starting point is 00:51:22 the standard now is a home hen and then the away hen and then a midweek wedding somewhere far away which means multiple annual leave days on top of having to take time off the abroad hen and then for a more expensive accommodation for the wedding I've been on three hens this year and I've spent around five grand
Starting point is 00:51:37 I've committed to two abroad hens next year and I am going to pull out as I've got nothing left that's a lot It's just a shame when things land on like the same year and around the same time because I agree that no bride should have to compromise what they want for their special day
Starting point is 00:51:57 thinking about others in a way obviously to an extent but then it's a shame for the bride and for the guests if it just falls to someone on a bad year or a bad month imagine how it will be there for some people that are in a predicament
Starting point is 00:52:13 where three of their really good friends are getting married abroad and a broad hen and they've got to pick one and the other friends are like why are you going to theirs and not mine and it's because you find and I actually cannot afford to do all through them. Like all of that is really difficult.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I think honestly it all comes down to just like doing exactly what you want to do. What you just need to go out with it. Yeah. I know a girl whose hen costs everyone two grand each and people had to sacrifice family holidays to go. Like what the fucks cost you two grand and a hen do? Yeah. That's your dittalus.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I made of honour and struggling at the planning stage of the hen, the in-laws and then the exploding. head emoji. Oh my God, I bet they're getting right in and about to getting involved. Why, why, why do we need 5,000 pieces of branded merchandise for each hen from Timo? The pyjamas say brides on them and the material is cheap and it gives you electric shocks. Girls, don't get me started. Two bridesmaids down after one conversation about a date. Jesus. What about our way, isn't it? Maybe because they can't make it and they're like, you need to change your need to change it because I can't make it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh my Lord. What the fuck? Oh my God, these are really good. Read more, read more. First time brides me and didn't realize all the extra costs that comes with the job. Happy to do so, but it can be mad. Do you know what? I think is a really good point that I saw somebody say that Hindus get so out of control because they have to be so strictly organized with the itinering. It gets to the point where you can't enjoy yourself so much.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You can't get pissed for the day activity because you've got to get spruced up and ready for the evening activity. and it's almost like so regimented and strict that no one's really letting loose and actually just having a really fucking good time like just turn up to a pud and pop and let's just all let loose and go nuts. I know. How fun is that?
Starting point is 00:54:15 I know. Someone's also wrote in who's the bride and saying that bridesmaids and people going on in the hen constantly moaning to her about how uncomfortable they feel being in bikinis
Starting point is 00:54:29 and how expensive everything is and can we share toiletries and can we do this and can we do that and she's like it's quite actually hard being the bride in that situation because you're kind of shitting all over my good time Yeah, you're killing my vibe
Starting point is 00:54:42 much it also get is quite difficult That's why I'm so strict on like me out of it Just come if you can come It's getting out of hand Away hen, home hen with the family Then a three day wedding where we need to pay More money for overnight It's all for the gram in my humble opinion though
Starting point is 00:54:58 People just want others to think they have a good time but they are actually all skint. My mother-in-law completely ghosted me before the wedding. Happy to share the story if you want it. I'm still devastated, to be honest. Oh my goodness. My best friend and her mom stopped speaking to me because I couldn't get time off or the hen.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'm a teacher. I don't get to choose my days off. Fucking all that should I use. Too much organised fun and pressure to be Insta-esque. Just have fun with your besties. Maybe this just needs to be like, anyone listen to this because I'm sure there'll be so many people listen to this that are either a bridesmaid, a bride, or you're a maid of honor,
Starting point is 00:55:34 planning a hen, like, this is just like an inside bit of info to how people feel. So whether you're a bridesmaid, pull your weight for your bride. Make sure you show up there for them, ask you if they need any support. If you're a bride, don't expect people to pay an arm and leg, be a bit, like, have some empathy, actually fucking wake up and be in the real word and understand that. People cannot understand, pay for everything. and be a bit more cutthroat as well if you are someone attending a hen.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think so. Just say I can't afford it. Yeah, I think so. I think it comes down to it and I know there's a lot of outside noise and pressure, right? But I do think it comes down to if I had a friend, for example, who was sitting moaning to me constantly
Starting point is 00:56:19 about having to go on a hen doing how much it was costing, I would say to them, why are you going? Yeah. Like, and you would say that to your friend too. so see if that's how you feel don't fucking go to it and if you feel like but I need to because it's one of my close pals
Starting point is 00:56:34 well they should understand they should understand also let's be honest you don't know what your pal's fucking salary is right but you've got an understanding of your pal's lifestyles and to an extent of
Starting point is 00:56:48 what they can afford to do with their life so that's where you should be a sound pal and make your hen do realistic but I can also imagine that there's people that will judge their friend's lifestyle there and they'll go like well she could afford to do that she can afford to go my hen but what people need to understand is you aren't priority of what people choose to spend their disposable income on I know so you can't just be looking at them and be like oh well surely she could
Starting point is 00:57:11 save a couple hundred quid here and there you don't understand maybe they don't fucking want to it's not all about you I know I know and it's so easy to say because if I was getting married and I was having a hen would I feel disappointed if people didn't come and would I start speculating but they could do that. Maybe you would, I don't know. But I think you just need to be like, it's so deep saying it, but you just need to be true at yourself.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You either want to go or you don't. Yeah. And you can't afford to go or you can't. You know the whole home hen and a broad hen thing, right? This is my stance on it. I think it's absolutely fine to have two. I had two baby showers and that was purely because there was no crossover at any except my mum.
Starting point is 00:57:52 She chose to come to my Glasgow one. That is purely because if you want an abroad hen, a lot of people don't want their head. family there, the elder people that can't make it, all the people that choose to not make it so they come to the UK. You don't have to go to both. So I think the bride should understand that if you're having two
Starting point is 00:58:07 and you've invited people, they come to one or the other and that is fucking it. Unless it's free for them fine. And unless you don't have any qualms and they just want to go to both then absolutely fine. But I do not think you should expect if it costs money to go to both. I think you should
Starting point is 00:58:23 there's a reason why you have in a home hen. Stick at that reason. Unless you really are having two then that's crazy I know and then a broad wedding and then a lot of people have a celebration back at home I get that yeah same story also at the end of the day that bride wants having a broad
Starting point is 00:58:43 wedding she fucking can have an abroad wedding ain't your wedding I know I know so anyway I think that's our two pence worth and that's one it's a hard one let us know you can really see it from all angles You absolutely can And it is very circumstantial as well
Starting point is 00:59:03 Which I think is what's difficult to give a sort of Yeah Final bit of advice on And I think if you are going on a Hindu Take our advice Just have a fucking good time Forget all about it You only live once Yolo
Starting point is 00:59:17 YOLO Money comes back We hope That's the motto I live with And it's got me so far But memories Will never fade or is it memories fade
Starting point is 00:59:32 No It's Money's fade but memories last a lifetime No it's something fades but something lasts a life Fuck knows Whatever it is Just have a fucking good time Yeah I think people are getting too political about it
Starting point is 00:59:47 If I'm honest And if someone's on the hand who pissing you off Ignore them I know Ignore them If you can't afford to go Or simply don't want to spend your money on it Say no
Starting point is 00:59:56 You know what if you're having a great time Get the flight home There's always option swim in Atlantic. Do you know what I mean? Or he could run from Boston to America to America. Boston to America. Scotland to Boston.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Did you see that? No, it was early to Boston. He walked. Oh, I thought he went from Scotland? He's Scottish. Somebody told me that he walked from Scotland to America and I was like, how the fuck does somebody do that? L.A. to Boston.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And they went, it took him months and months and months to do it. Talking to a Scottish guy who was singing and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking about the same guy. Is it LA to Boston that? far? Took him 130 days I think. Oh, it's far then.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It was like 33 marathons or something equated to. Why did someone told me Scotland? And to be fair when I heard it I was like, not a chance. I think it's just because he was all kitted out in the Scotland gear, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:44 Quite confusing. Made it in time for the World Cup? He did. Anyway, I hope that I just hope that makes people maybe like in all departments chill a wee bit. I'll just think a little bit about it
Starting point is 01:00:58 but also send us in the more the drums. We like it. Also, maybe zoom out a wee bit. I've been like, it's my day, so it's up to me what I want to do. And if it's not your day, it's also up to you what you want to do. Also try and be aware if you are being a bit of a bridezilla. And be away if you're maybe just been about a shite pal.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. Because there's that as well. Nothing is worth you having riddled anxiety over. Also falling out with your mum, your friends, never speaking to your maiden one again. Nothing. Nothing. 20 is worth that.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's a one day event, by the way, and you're falling out. We're literally about to be tied to the same dick forever. Let's just not, let's just not. We need our fucking friends about. Good grace. We need pals. Fucking hell. Right, see ya. Right, thanks for listening to that advice on two of people who are not engaged, not had a hendu, or have been married.
Starting point is 01:01:50 But you know what? We don't give a vote. Peace out, sisters. See you. Love you, bye.

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