A Lot On Your Plate - Ep 13: How to build a capsule wardrobe with Jilly Isabella

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

Join us and our BFF Jilly Isabella (@jillyisabella) to discuss how to shop more consciously, the key to building a capsule wardrobe, how to normalise outfit repeating and yes…uggs are well and truly... backhttps://www.dulalabel.comUse code PLATE15 for 15% OFFDula leather jacket- - - - - - - - - -Show LinksNAKDCOSUNIQLOWEEKDAYSTRADIVARIUS (for jeans)LEVIS (for jeans)Places to recycleH&MSchuhRental SitesHURRByRotationCocoon ClubRewear SitesDepopVintedUgg styles mentioned:Ultra mini in shade Antelope, Chestnut, BlackUgg Tasman- - - - - - - - - -Follow us on IG @alotonyourplatepodYour HostsJess (@JustJessFood)Zoe (@ZoeQuinnnn)Produced ByCobalt Creative (@cobaltcreativeuk) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the chart-topping show-stopping best podcast in the world. We're just kidding, just get it, just get it. Hello, my little pocket rockets. Welcome back to A Lot on Your Plate Podcasts. Welcome back. Happy Tuesday. How are we all? How are you, Jess? Fabulous, thanks, Zoe. How are you?
Starting point is 00:00:31 I'm wonderful. And I'm very excited because we have our third guest with us today. We do. So basically, the guest has come around because me and Zoe, especially recently with the seasons changing, we've been constantly moaning each other that we never have anything to wear. I'm sure that we speak volumes for everybody listening to this podcast. Or that we hate every single thing that we own. And it's definitely safe to say that there's so many clothing websites out there at the moment.
Starting point is 00:00:57 That's borderline overwhelming. And I don't think it helps that we feel we need to tap into every given trend because we are influenced so much by social media. And we really, all we want is some help on how to minimise our excessive shopping habits, start to buy smarter and build a good quality, longer lasting capsule wardrobe, but without breaking the bank. Yes, sir. So we thought we would invite the perfect person onto the podcast to help us out.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Perfect, perfect, perfect. Someone who I'm sure most of you listening will know, and she's one of our bestest friends. Best buddy. But if you don't know who she is, she's an absolute fashion icon, a business owner for her own fashion label called Dula, which focuses on normalising outfit repeating
Starting point is 00:01:40 and adding staple timeless pieces into your wardrobe that you can wear time and time again. We are very excited to have her join us today. It's, of course, the Ginger Legend. That is... Jillie Isabella. Hello, Jenny! Hello, Jess!
Starting point is 00:01:56 How are we? She's Scottish everyone She's definitely not English Also she's currently squirming in her seat At how awkward this is Guys I'm so nervous I've known these girls for honestly About seven years
Starting point is 00:02:12 I've never felt more awkward I've never seen a shit herself so much like she's now She's squirming It's just because it's like a deafening It's another form of putting myself out there And I'm probably just going to get slaughtered for my accent And I can't be bothered with it But here we are
Starting point is 00:02:27 We're here. Ease into it, not to worry. Yeah. So what have you been up to? What's been on your plate? Physically, what's been on my plate? I had a Chinese last night. Yum, classic. Desperately hung over because I went out with Jess and her friends
Starting point is 00:02:40 on Friday in Manchester and the speed at which they drink alcohol is not normal. I, I, I, I, I, my glass get put on a table and Jess's friend, Heather was like, Jellie, what another drink? I went, I went, Heather no? I was just, you lit, that is not even just touched the table. I know, but we're all getting two.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And I was like, oh, you... And doubles as well. And doubles, ah, similar to double. I was like, what's going on in the Iron Appa Girl's Trip holiday? That's exactly what he was like. Obviously, I got led astray because I just do anything to anyone who... Googling it down. But also, you said Chinese.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You are also someone like you, where you don't have salt and chili chips and you have boiled rice. And, like, this is, honestly, I really didn't want to talk about what's going to call my plate because I get slaughtered all the times. I'm on board with the normal chips but there's boiled rice no we can't get on board with that can't we? No I just disagree with it it's so salty it is I don't have a heart attack I'm having curry sauce that's
Starting point is 00:03:37 must have been seeped in about 12 kilos I do not need boiled right and I really like salt on my chippy chips and I don't really like spicy stuff I don't why I get a Chinese I don't know I'm sure I know but I think that the non major Chinese things that are Chinese the best do you know what I mean? You're not
Starting point is 00:03:57 getting all this like... Yeah, I don't actually really love Chinese food, I just like a curry. Yeah. It's like a chicken curry, extra onions, boiled rice and chips. I like extra onions as well. But I'm not ordering a chicken merryland
Starting point is 00:04:07 it could be a lot worse, do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Do you like prawn crackers? I love prong crackers. Do you put like the rice in it and it? And scoop it up. Yeah. Everything in it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Mm-hmm. But I hate chips and they come in the curry sauce and then the chips are soggy. Ooh. So I have my chips on the side and I just dip it into my curry. Yeah, okay. I can get on board with that. I would do that too.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And what's been on your plate? What's been a lot on your plate? What's been a lot on your plate, hen? What has been a lot on my plate? I actually think I'm in a very nice headspace right now. I wasn't during summer. Like I was in such a rut during summer. I get out my routine in summer.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You go on holidays and stuff and you're all over the place. And then I went on this brand trip to Ibitha with that fab skincare, which is owned by a lot of Porter that you know. And it was just such a nice group of Glasgow girls. It was so nice to go away in a brand trip. Like Jess, you know, you probably won't really know this. But for Scottish people,
Starting point is 00:04:55 people you can't on you really can't talk the way you talk around people from england you just can't work like can't so see sometimes when i go on influencer trips i don't really feel like i can come across like myself yeah so when i went on that trip i was like this is so nice to go away with all glasgow people and they were all self-employed all business owners and it was just such a nice group and we're all talking people up and i just came away and i felt so empowered that's nice yeah laura porter the owns fab is just such a boss ass bitch she is she isn't she i was like i'm inspired I am making the most out of life. So now I remember that and I feel great.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And now you're on a podcast. I know my podcast. Because you're a badass bitch. Here we are. So we would like to know everything about Dula plays. Okay. So it is my fashion label. It's a women's wear label.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I started it. I toyed with the idea for maybe about three years before I actually launched it. It was supposed to be called Edit. We were supposed to launch it in 2020. obviously COVID happened and it was like the best thing that ever happened because like we really like fine-tuned what we wanted it to be. I'm saying we because I talk about it as if it's a 5,000 person company. But it's just you. But I really like to just say we do we do this. Yeah. I'm putting it out there. We're going to get there one day. So Dula, the name
Starting point is 00:06:14 Dula and also please any French people out there, any French language speaking people, I don't want to butcher the language all right. I just think this is a nice way to describe what the brand was so when I was looking at changing the name which have you had a business start of us and like you guys I'm sure would have took a wee while to name the podcast yeah got to ages took ages so um when I was designing at the time it was like kind of like blazers and tailing and like quite adrogynous styles and just like masculine and feminine mixed and do and la are masculine and feminine nouns from language yeah and I just put them together and it's gorgeous and I like to tell
Starting point is 00:06:52 that way story as well yeah it like communicates what the band does But like I don't want to kind of like stick to that too much. I'd like for like to do it let it evolve and just be whatever it is. Yeah. If we go away a wee bit from that style, it's fine. Like it just to kind of become. Yeah. I remember when you told me as well that when it was originally going to be called edit,
Starting point is 00:07:07 you had this idea in your head that when girls are in the toilets together and nights out that they would say, where's that from? And they'd say edit and it didn't really, it could be an edit of what or. So I wanted a name that was just its name. There was nothing else that was getting exclusive to itself. Yeah. So yeah. Because a lot of brands use edit now like for anything.
Starting point is 00:07:24 edits that they do. So people would have been like, oh, who's edit, is it? Yeah, really, all, it's good. So what was your vision then for Dula? What did you want it to be, you know, in terms of you and the fashion that you enjoy, did you want it to be different to something else?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Did you feel there's a gap in the market? What did you want to achieve with it? So it takes a long time from like sketching to actually producing something to sell it. We take about eight months. Wow. Yeah, it's a really long process. So I didn't want to spend that much time on something
Starting point is 00:07:53 for then someone just to wear it once and just kind of bin it. Yeah, yeah. I remember years and years ago, my mom got me this leather dress from And Dollar Stories, which quite an expensiveish fan, mom. Yeah. It was a Christmas present so I could wear it when I went to New York.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And I've still got it and I bring it out all the time and I love it so, so, so much. So I remember thinking, like, I love how I feel when I put that out on. I feel it kind of like when I wear a house of CB stuff as well. It just feels so nice when I have it on. So anything that I designed, I wanted people to buy something that they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:08:22 I love that so much. I'm going to bring that out. my wardrobe every single year. So that was just kind of the idea behind like... Timeless pieces. Exactly. Timeless pieces that are going to last in your wardrobe and that you enjoy waiting all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So that was kind of where like the normalising outfit, repeating slogan came from as well. Yeah, I love that slogan so much. I do. It's brilliant. I think it's great. I'm like thoroughly enjoying this because we have these chats but you're just about like, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:08:46 But now you're really getting into it. And I'm like, wait, wait, just like, I'm like, intelligent. Yeah, he does. We love it. So in terms of starting Doola then, how the hell, for anyone listening to this podcast, how do you go about starting a business? So I was quite lucky.
Starting point is 00:09:02 My mum and dad's always self-employed, and I've been around so many entrepreneurs in my life. So I was very lucky that I could ask a lot of people like where to start and what to do. But if you don't have that, like Google's your best friends. It's very much like you have a business idea, you write a business strategy, you have a plan, you find funding from somewhere,
Starting point is 00:09:22 you register the company you start a bank account but I think a lot of people are like but how do I actually start what I do blah blah blah and I just need to start it yeah there's so much that I yeah there's so much that I've learned from Dula only having it about a year and a half
Starting point is 00:09:34 now that I would have never have known if I had a not so sometimes I wish to myself God I wish I started that sooner yeah so you can learn from your mistakes kind of thing 100% and there's just things that you can't learn from just like reading something
Starting point is 00:09:46 you just need to do yeah so if there's people you can ask then definitely ask and say when it's like clothing or, if you're selling a product, how do you find, like, where to get that from? Like, if you don't just make it on your own, like, in-house or whatever. You may not supply it. Yeah, like, so suppliers or manufacturers.
Starting point is 00:10:03 LinkedIn is one of the best tools. You just search, like, for example, if you're wanting something produced, you just search for factories, and then there's people that, I work at this factory, I do this, that, do that. Yeah. That's one of the best places, I think, that everyone can access, and then again, networking is the most thing I've been lucky that, like, throughout my career, I did a lot, a lot, a networking.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, true. Because you've also had a fashion background as well. Exactly. And you actually went out there, didn't you, to see the factories years ago? Yeah, uh-huh. Went out in 2019, and it was amazing. It was so interesting. And it was good to actually see the factories working as well, making sure that, like, exploiting workers wasn't. Of course, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Like, safety and all that. Which, as blurred lines, there's a lot of people that maybe don't have the access to be able to go and do that. So you need to be careful. but I was just one of the important things that when we started, I didn't want to add to any issues like we're definitely in a state of the world and we're overconsuming a lot of things like I wanted to start something that I was proud of
Starting point is 00:11:03 I always seen myself doing a business and I couldn't really see myself doing anything else so I just wanted to make sure that when I was starting it I was being safe and doing so I'm not adding to it anymore yeah absolutely and what would you say has been the biggest struggle so far with starting the business have you found any obstacles on the way
Starting point is 00:11:18 many. Many. I am cloning, climbing a high hill right now and I'm nowhere near the summit. I'm falling back. Right now logistics is a nightmare. Like Brexit was an issue. COVID cost is an issue. I really didn't know anything about logistics either. Basically as well, I got really good tips from one of my family members and they said that when you sell something and you're deciding on the price of it, you need to divide absolutely everything that goes into it. So put aside your labour, your, like, materials you buy. Like, you need to think of your packaging. So how much does that box that you're putting in that outfit? And what does that cost? Then you need to think of how much that cost to actually ship that here. And a lot of where your profit comes from is making sure that all those things are really low.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So then now for us, logistics is a nightmare just because the cost of everything is rising. So that that's a specific thing. But in general, when you start a business and you're just trying to keep costing, you're obviously doing everything yourself so you don't have employees. so like every single one of my family members has been a part of something in there and get zero rewards from it right now. So that is probably the most difficult thing
Starting point is 00:12:25 is just kind of doing it yourself but you just have to do it so you can't moan about it it, it just is something you have to do. I mean you definitely do a lot of motivation and patience. Yeah, you do. A lot, a lot of patience.
Starting point is 00:12:36 When I started that I've read some daft like business for Dummies Book or something and they says that it takes about five years for you to actually start seeing like really good profits and kind of getting something out of it. Because any profit you get, you actually put straight back into doing it, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I wouldn't be able to take a call from that now, just kind of productive. So it feels unrewarding right now. Sometimes I'm like, why am I doing this? I think that's why I was going to be able to do it in my life. So I was like, what I'm doing my life? Why am I doing this? I'm going to run away at an island
Starting point is 00:13:02 and just chill there and live off the land. And then I was like, snap out of here. So yeah, I think if you're like, if you're really at your entrepreneurship, you want your own business, you make it work. I suppose you'll have the small rewards, like when people are wearing it here there. That must feel great when they tag it.
Starting point is 00:13:17 nuggets like that will keep you going until there's like the big reward and it's really like made it and actually getting something off the ground and running it as well see even it's even only one person bought something from Dula I'm like that is so sick man like well done like someone actually wants to spend your hard cash because you were drawing a wee sketch and then somebody actually bought it and then it's like I think that's mega and the fact that like it never had any like branding to it and then I did all the branding and it's this only thing it's like my child yeah I do I love it yeah so um I kind of obviously you can understand a lot
Starting point is 00:13:48 are you talking about because I used to work in the fashion industry on the supplying side. So when you talk about starting a new business, how is it, because obviously I know this with working with factories, getting like minimum orders because like you said,
Starting point is 00:13:59 every single thing you have to be cheap as possible to make yourself a profit. Even from your boxes, you'd need to buy them in huge bulk or quantity of the leather jacket, for example, to get the price minimised you would need to buy a lot so you need a lot of cash up front.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Have you found struggles with that with getting minimum orders? 100%. One of the main issues because then it's also like a wee bit daunting because you're thinking, God, I've got quite a lot of that that needs to sell.
Starting point is 00:14:21 But it's just one of those things that comes when you start a small business that you can't really avoid it. Of course, yeah. And that's one of the things that's holding us back the now with size expansion because just now we are not
Starting point is 00:14:34 at when I want us to be with size inclusion. Like we've got four sizes. Like it's not good enough but we just don't have the funding to get it there. I'm going to explain it a wee bit because I think people don't really understand. That's what I'm meaning.
Starting point is 00:14:45 People don't understand with these small businesses. is what they actually need to put up from. You can't just launch a business and have like all sizes. It's impossible. Unless you've got an endless pot of cash. Unless you're Kim Kardashian, which I am not.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Not yet. Not yet. So when you are getting something produced and you're creating patterns and patterns is what the pattern cutters cut from to actually. It's like building blocks. That's what they do to put the tops together.
Starting point is 00:15:13 For each size, you need to pay that size to be graded and scaled. So each size has a cost. So to be very transparent, we just don't have the funding there right now to scale it. But that is the main goal that we will work towards that hopefully by about a year or two time will have a full size range.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Because that's obviously a lot of brands that we do shop on mostly like the fashion ones. It's taken them quite a lot of years to get to a plus size range because they've needed to build that business from quite small at the start. For sure. I really love that girl Grace Beverly.
Starting point is 00:15:45 and she has that sustainable brand Tala and it's like all the gym wear and it's gorgeous stuff and that's them only just launching their like expanding the size range and house of CB as well yeah that's why I don't want to put too much pressure on it because I'm looking at these big massive
Starting point is 00:16:01 multi-million businesses that are only just doing it now and I think as well you want to launch it and it be perfect of course so that's something that we'll work towards for Dula but it's just one of those things they know yeah people just have too much to say Yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:16:16 Definitely It's always something isn't there I think it comes from See if you don't have a business I think see if people Have been employed by someone I think they're the ones That usually have more to say
Starting point is 00:16:24 I think I've just been lucky That I've seen both sides I've worked Yeah Yeah And then I've seen business as well So I can understand That people would maybe have
Starting point is 00:16:31 A certain idea in their head Because they're not in it They don't know Yeah That's fair But stop doing that to me Okay Because I'm trying my best
Starting point is 00:16:38 And now they know Because they've listened To my life So what's to come Fudula What have we got to look forward to. So we've got our winter collection
Starting point is 00:16:46 coming out but I can't wait for because I'm very much a winter dress and I'm a lot cooler in the winter I can do layers it's just a bit it's the best time to dress so we've got our winter collection coming nice coats
Starting point is 00:16:58 I've seen a few teases on your Instagram yeah feathers so that is what's actually coming that kind of thing and just like the size expansion thing is what we're working towards mainly mm-hmm obsess excited
Starting point is 00:17:11 when's that when's what when's it coming What, oh, the new stuff. Yes, we need to know. Oh, wait, when's my stuff that it's coming that I should sell for my brand? Coming at the end of October, wow.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Fabulous. Wow, that's only like, what, two weeks? Yeah. That long. I have, I bought a jacket off Jilly's website, Dooler when it first launched, and it's a leather jacket with a bummer at the back, and I'm, shit you not.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Every time I wear it, everyone is like, where is that from? I genuinely think I will get that out of my wardrobe time and time again. For sure. Because it's just such a perfect. I don't ever get anything as good as that and it's fine, I'll just sell leather jackets
Starting point is 00:17:49 for the rest of life. That's what I was thinking. I was just going to be talking it. It's back. Oh, look guys. It's back. Guess you don't guess this. Look what's back.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So we obviously need help and I think a lot of listeners do. How do the hell do we start to build a capsule wardrobe? I know obviously you do tap into trends as well but you do it so well where you will mix it with other things and I don't know how to do that. I'll buy into a trend. and I'll buy that top once and I think, oh my God, it's so trendy
Starting point is 00:18:16 and I will probably put it in the charity bag but you, however, will style it differently but me as a person I probably can't get away with some of the things that you wear because I'm not as cool as fuck as you but I think I would like to wear something a bit more staple, capsule. Where do we start to build the foundations of your wardrobe
Starting point is 00:18:35 to go up and then add in the trendy bits? I need to know where else I can go from a blazer. Like a blazer, like we're currently wearing them. But if blazers stop being a thing, what... Well, they won't, though, for a stop. You can't stop being a thing because that was one of the first things I was going to be like, you need a staple blazer.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I know, but like, they weren't a thing, really. Well, like, obviously we're... It's like a clean girl look now, it's a thing, isn't it? But see if that stops. I'm quite truly fucked. I'm fucked. It's all aware. They're so flattering as well.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They are so flattering and they do go with everything. So I think if you're wanting to start off, I think you should have your wardrobe a wee purge, go through things that you've not worn for ages, sell it on depop, put that money back towards it. it. And obviously, whatever you've kept in your wardrobe, it's obviously stuff you like when you've got it on, you feel good in it, knowing your body, you wear certain shapes. Yeah. So say, for
Starting point is 00:19:24 example, you really like these pair of trousers and then you know that these pair of trousers go with a bodysuit, a crop t-shirt, and a shirt. Then you just know whenever you're going to buy again, but okay, well, I know that they go with those jeans, so I'm going to be going to be going to wear them lots. And then those pair of jeans might go by a nice jacket that's going to go with something else. So it's just been a way bit more conscious when you're shopping that what your buying does go with other things because like you said it is easy to tap into trends and I don't think tapping into trends is a bad thing like I love fashion so much like see when fashion month comes around I'm so excited to see like what we're going to be wearing in six months
Starting point is 00:19:56 time like in the group chat it pops off Julie literally rates around from a minute at 10 and she goes hard I adore it but I think you should avoid micro trends I think that's where you'll be like I wore that once and then packed it out yeah so I think you can definitely tap into trends and enjoy like the wee seasons that comes here and there but I think the main thing for building your capsule wardrobe is knowing what you suit and what you like to wear and then just building it around that. It is hard finding stuff for your body I think.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Because I try and dress like a six foot size six human being reality is I'm five foot three for a start and I'm definitely not a size six either. Yeah it is annoying and some things you think feel like you can't wear And to be fair, there's definitely a lot of things that I'm like, I just can't wear that. I love that on someone else but I can't. Yeah. But I don't want you to think that you can't wear
Starting point is 00:20:47 what those six foot people because you can know whatever you want. Oh, I absolutely could, but would it be clear for the eye, no? And then it's just, you just want to feel as good as you possibly can and what you're wearing. So I think when you know what your body type suits, then you can't really go wrong. So if I was to go home today, right, and completely got out my wardrobe, what do you suggest I'd do with those clothes?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well, you could sell on Deep Hop or Vinteads. I sell stuff on Vintead. I actually have a girl that does it. she started her own business. It's called Girls Rewear. Wow. Yeah, it's so clever. She does it for influencers.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So obviously get quite a lot of free clothes, don't they? Yeah, yeah. So that's like a nice responsible way to make sure that you're like re-purpose and something. So yeah, you could sell it. We actually spoke about this when we were away there. H&M and actually other high street shops, it's not just H&M, it does it. Like M&S does it. Shoe does it as in like actual shop.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And you take any brand of clothing. It doesn't need to be that brand. It can be any clothing. It can be any textiles. You take it into the shop and you get a voucher. And then they give it to like this big recycling company that either they recycle it properly, they resell it or they can use it to make new clothes. I know that may sound a wee, but like that's daft because then you're just like buying more clothes.
Starting point is 00:21:57 But it's more just like those clothes don't end up in a landfill. Yeah. And that's where the issue is. Yeah. Because the fashion industry is like it's one of the top plurality industries now, which is wild to think about. Because a lot of people won't come away from fast fashion or constantly. buying new clothes let's be honest but at least if they're selling old clothes or handing them in even if they're getting money to buy new ones at least they're doing something with the old ones
Starting point is 00:22:17 and not just bidding them and i do think as well like might be an unpopular take but i do think there is space for fast fashion i think the businesses just may need to be a wee bit more responsible with it but not everybody can buy into sustainability and i do like they're a little bit not a snobbery but it's definitely you've got a privilege see if you can buy an eight-pound blazer that you can take out your wardrobe every single year that's great for you but if fast fashion was abolished the day after tomorrow there's going to be a large group of people
Starting point is 00:22:46 that cannot afford to shopping Million percent Zara or get their stuff from there so I think it falls on the fast fashion businesses to make sure that they're not exploiting their workers polluting and stealing designs of small business owners like me yeah I think it's just like being a wee bit more conscious
Starting point is 00:23:03 with what you're buying you can buy things that you want to wear time with it again from fast fashion but also I do feel in the next breath of that is I think if you buy cheap you buy twice and that does happen to me quite a lot I'll buy something because I think
Starting point is 00:23:18 it feels good quality I'll wash it once and it's like a bag of shen and I think I should have probably even invested an extra 20 quid on that more higher quality blazer for example and then it will last me time and time again I think it's like maybe a younger thing as well that you don't have as much of a disposable income with your younger and you go
Starting point is 00:23:32 out every weekend and you want to wear something new and then you look in your boardroom and you're thinking and none of that's meant like how many things have you bought last minute because you're like sugar i'm going out on the weekend i need to get an outfit never wear again no that's not my style at all why i did that and that like i'm maybe like built a wardrobe and i thought oh my god i have nothing to wear yeah because it is like that you just buy things last minute and it is cheap so like it doesn't hold that much value don't feel that bad binning it and put it away exactly i think we just need to be a bit more conscious with our shopping habits
Starting point is 00:24:01 yeah yeah i mean i used to buy something new for every single weekend but with the purpose was that I would never wear it again. Ever again? I know. It's terrible. But what I will say is like maybe that like our generation definitely were like that and I think we're growing up to make a more special income
Starting point is 00:24:17 but I don't think that Gen Z are like that. They are so responsible. I think they are actually. I think it's why more people are talking about now because these children are talking about it. And I do think it is cool to work. I know what you mean. I do think it is cool now to see people out for a piece and I actually look at people think wow that's so cool
Starting point is 00:24:34 that she could style that different name where back in the day when I was drunk of like oh my god she wore that last way yeah and I found that as well with building a wardrobe up that see if I wore something once I'm like I'm gonna bin that I'm not wearing that again and then maybe see a few months time it comes back around or I wish I kept that that was a that that would have went so nice with that yes yeah and then that's when you start like being a wee bit like being a wee bit okay I'd really like that t-shirt and I know for a fact that that's going to go with these things so I'm not going to bin them I'm going to keep them
Starting point is 00:24:58 yeah I actually also don't really care when I wear stuff again now like see if it's I feel nice in yeah and we at least feel nice in it for sure I don't really care There was a program I watched. Not long ago, I think it was on Netflix. What's that woman's name where she organises everyone's... Yeah. And she said something like, if you have a wardrobe and everything's hung, for example, every time you put it back, turn the...
Starting point is 00:25:18 If your hanger can do it, twist it round. And at the end of the year, anything that's twisted the other way, you haven't wore for a year, so get it out. That's clever. Yeah. I don't know. No, I don't either, but anyone that does, I thought that's quite a good idea. So you look at it and you think, oh, I'll keep it.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But every time I go through, I think maybe I'll wear that one day, but you never actually do. I remember her saying as well that if you are like cleaning out your wardropes for example you're going to go home and try and start capturing wardrobe yeah she says you need to hold it and you have to hold it to your heart
Starting point is 00:25:46 and if it doesn't feel it if you don't feel it for three months coming off my tank top I was like spiritually I really understand that Marie I'm going to open that my fuck sake so right where do we start then give us some obviously apart from the obvious
Starting point is 00:26:03 which is Dula but where give us some good examples of some websites or stores that we could go into where the hell would you recommend us to shop to buy some good quality things I've recently really really love being loving any KD I don't know if it's NAKD or naked you love it but it's I think it's like a Scandy brand
Starting point is 00:26:19 and their stuff is really really nice quality and it's not too expensive it definitely is like on the price your side it isn't fast fashion prices but fast fashion sustainability do not go fast fashion good quality don't go just like I said you definitely are in a privileged position if you can buy better things but you are going to need to spend
Starting point is 00:26:37 a wee bit more money. So I like Kenny KD, I like weekday. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've seen you've been wearing quite a few weekday trousers. Love weekday. They've been really nice tailoring and nice basics, like elevated basics. I think they've got a store here up in Scotland. Oh because Glasgow has nothing. I know, but there's so much store space.
Starting point is 00:26:54 65 Greggs in one street. But God forbid we get a Zara home. I know. Also weekday on like, in fact, naked as well go on ASOS. Yeah, they do. And it's different prices because you're not. not getting like the European crossover, whatever that is. Yeah, that's true. And we were actually talking.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, I love that. We were talking about this in our car, weren't we? Because you have, this is cos actually, but you're wearing a cost. Coss. Yeah, I love cost. But that, again, that is like a wee bit pricier.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah, but their quality of T-shirts are so nice. So as you look at your T-shirt, I was like, that looks such nice quality. Yeah, I've got stuff that I've got from the cost like years ago that I still have because they just wash well. I actually do have the same like H&M as well. I think H&M's great quality. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And there, I would say definitely. affordable. For sure. Like active wear, I like Adonola. They've been nice basics. Another version. They're another good one. Oh, Uniclo. They're great. They're great for T-shirts. Unbelievable for T-shirts. Yeah. So nice. Mm. Okay. Nice basics. Elevated basis. What about jeans? Jeans. I love Levi jeans. They're my absolute favorite. Actually, we love A-Sos jeans as well. Weekday jeans. I have a few from Weekday as well. I also thank Stradivarius jeans are good. Yeah, they are good.
Starting point is 00:28:08 They're like, the shops are shithole but the online's great. Would not, thank you for walking in Stradivarius walked right back out. Stradivarius. It's an enjoyable shopping. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:17 That, Bershka and Poulin-Bair. Remember we went into all them in Edinburgh? Oh, foolish. But on Asos it looks so nice. And they have nice quality stuff is real true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Affordable. Yeah. Because Aesos get all the nice bits like the basic nice stuff and then the shops like for my 17-year-old sister. Yeah. It's very. I'm just actually not really an in shopper
Starting point is 00:28:36 person. I love a shop on the website. I only am for H&M. HNM's better in store, I think. Oh, I highly disagree. Really? Well, to be fair. There's so much to consume. You really have to search in there. It's very overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I think it's because I just passed through it. Every time I go my lunch, I like walk through the H-Nam in Glasgow. So like, I just always know it's in there. She'll find it quite easy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Quite a nice store in Bacan Street, actually. Yeah, it is. So how would you suggest that anyone listening and us, how could we stop avoiding
Starting point is 00:29:06 overordering with fast fashion brands like or just in general how do we stop over ordering I think if you do just think in your head like consciously I mean it's it's hard because obviously people are going to want to buy new things when like going on night outs and things like that like it is just like we are a consuming society and like we're on social media and it is just kind of like part and parcel like this generation but for me I just know that when fast fashion stuff comes I'm just not going to like it on the corner it's just not good and I just like to feel good in the clothes that I wear so I know at the time you're spending a wee bit more money you're thinking oh god like could have done maybe spending 40 pounds instead of 80 pound
Starting point is 00:29:41 I just know that I'm going to be able to wear it and feel good in it I think you just avoid it just by being a wee bit more conscious with your purchasing decisions yeah I just think what jelly said about if you're not going to wear it again don't order it yeah yeah that's a good benchmark for it as well I've definitely got to the point now though where I find online shopping completely overwhelming where I'll go and get my tabs all open at the tops I'll have Zara, Mango, naked, nasty girl. I'll get them all up and then I have everything in my basket that I think looks nice
Starting point is 00:30:08 and I just won't order it because I'm like, I'm so overwhelmed. That's probably my ADHD kicking him. Yeah, I think it definitely is. I think there's some web, see, like, pretty little thing. Oh, no. I have never, I have not gone on there. There's two many genres of people on there. So, like, I don't, I don't find, like, that overwhelming, like, going on to Zara.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Because see when I go on Zara, I'm going on Zara for a specific... What were then modelling on an oven top? I'm like, wow, that shape of time. I love that. I'm taking that idea for Jula. Swinging up a lightball. That's shoo in the microwave. Why are they like that? Why are they like that?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Because people talk about them is smart. Yeah, Zara is a bit like that. But I think like PLT way to overwhelm when there's too many genres. I don't know who I am on PLT when I'm not on there. And then I get a, maybe I'd get a wee bit kind of away. I've not shopped on PLT for, I don't know how long. Me neither. But it used to be the place.
Starting point is 00:30:57 They used to be the place. There's just too much choice on it. Yeah. So that's why like going on Adonola. you know you're going to get nice basics going on, go, I'm going to get... Always sold out, though. Pisses me off, but it makes you want it more.
Starting point is 00:31:08 No, you know what they're doing. And they do know what they're doing, they're smart. Right, and the big question, what do we need for this autumn winter, Julie? Tell us. Yeah, what's coming? Oh, would you like, oh, we'd like to trend forecast? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So I have got a pair of other boots on. Look at the look at us up and down then seeing what we were wearing on her feet. And I'm like, I have actually been shouting about this since 2020, you guys. You have. You bought Oggs back. You did. You categorically did.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And at the time, like, what was it, like a year and a half ago, you were saying it. And even I was like, okay, you can try, honey. But it fucking worked. Do you know, who was it? I seen someone on Instagram have them. I just think it was Hattie Bourne. And I was like, wow, they look quite cool on her. And then I think I put it on my Instagram being like, our uggs, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And the majority of people said no. So you thought, well, you know what? Nothing motivates me more than people saying, though. They're trying to prove people wrong. So then I ordered them and I thought, nah, these are actually shit hot. I love these. and I've honestly got about six pairs of them now. What is the style that you've been starting recently that are quite in?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Not the platform, the other ones. The ones who... The ones has slippers. Yeah, love them. Guys, it's comfort, okay? You didn't say you've got slippers on, then I leave and I put my outdoor slippers on. I think actually COVID as well made our styles a lot more like casual.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I think that's why the working stock. Million percent. Love them. They're so comfortable. I cannot be bothered tying up. I'm sure leases, I can't be bothered. It's honestly, it's true. And I don't need to wear socks when I wear ugs.
Starting point is 00:32:31 and you can wear them with anything. You can, yeah. Ogs go with everything. See, if you wear a wee cute skirt, put a nice wee pair of socks on with them. Gorgeous. I am a Gen Z-Y2K. You really are.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I've got a pen of joggies on and I don't put them, they go with everything. So I think a pair of Ugg boots, for sure, if you don't get them now, you're going to be regretting it. I can't get them now. I've got a pair, right?
Starting point is 00:32:54 I've tried to get the Antelope color and I can't get them anyway. That's the one I've got. The answer is the very first color I got, and everyone struggles to get that color. Do you think I should go for chestnut then or black? I think chestnut. Do you? Yeah, chestnut gives me like a granny in the Hamptons
Starting point is 00:33:06 that, like, you live in a big, rich gaff and she has like a tan watch and she wears the chestnut, og boots. Okay. But I do love my black ones as well. Yeah, there really cool. And I do love the platform ones because I'm about the same height as Zoe
Starting point is 00:33:17 and I need to know, because I was thinking about this with the platform, do you follow your ankle? I don't know. I was breaking my ankles for them. That gives me, like, you know, when you get platform slippers and you're constantly like over your ankle in them.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But listen, we have to sacrifice for fashion. Okay, I might get the black ones because I've got the... Do you know what else you definitely bought back? Well, you were a part and parcel of it. Crocs in the summer. Love my crocs. I love my crocs and that was another thing that people were like, no, you're not bringing them back.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was like, watch me. Watch me, I will. It's just comfort again. They are the confusing for that for sure. Other stuff, though, that people might, like, because I know that it is maybe like marmite ugg boots. Bally flats, I can't go on the train. I see people saying they're coming back, I'm like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:34:03 But listen, if you can do it, fair enough. Fair fox. Fair fox. But I think with these calves, absolutely. No, I can't. But they are so chic. I think I think classy, scandy style is really banging right now. And the girls have been wearing those Chanel Bally Flats.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You will never catch me dead in a pair of ballet flats. No, since I lesgo. Moufers, yeah, but not. Dolly shoes? Remember dolly shoes? You got dolly shoes. I will never wear them again. No.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I'm not on with that. I've just got fat, flat feet. I've got fat feet, fat calves, cancals, my legs are literally length. My knees have good faces because there's so much pressure. I feel my thighs going down on it. Simply can't have a bit of belly pumps on. And also, even the people I'm seen wearing them are not even doing it for me. No, I do.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I do love it. I can really appreciate. There's some things. She can do what she wants. Yeah, she can do whatever she wants. But even with her, I'm like, that one. time was enough, sweetie. I think it's like that
Starting point is 00:35:03 might be like a wee bit of microchend that you may like chuck away a few minute later. Adida Sampa's bang back in preppy style. I love preppy style though like you do that very well. Yeah, that's my go too. So a nice wee pair of loafers
Starting point is 00:35:15 and like a wee pleated skirt. Yes, I love that. Aviator jackers, bombers are back. Yeah. Love a bomber. Love a bomber. Love a bomber. Love a bomber. I was like a really nice
Starting point is 00:35:23 aviator like thrifted that like it flew a warplane. Like that's the aviator. I'm on the hunt for any listeners. I've seen one in a vintage shop. You better get shopping. Okay. Right, right. What would you say is your biggest fashion
Starting point is 00:35:39 disaster? We got five years. How long we got? I'm quite bad though because I will wear something and then I look back and it like a month ago and I was like oh, I jilly that outfit was shocking. It's just because like it's on my Instagram and I can go back and over-analyze it. I don't know how much I've obviously wore absolutely tragic
Starting point is 00:35:55 outfits in my life but I remember I was doing this hairstyle for a while and it was this, like, scraped back, really, really tight pony because I was obsessed with how it made my face look like I had a face lift. It was actually when we worked a quiet. I know, I remember. And it was this tight bun and I put it right at the top of my head. Oh, I remember when you did that.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And I looked like this, like, divorced, 40-year-old that has been all our payout for the divorce, trying to look younger. And it was so harsh, and I did it with every outfit. It's like the outfits might not be that bad, but that hairstyle made everything tragic. I also gave you bald patches at the front of your hand I have severe receiving hairline because I had a hairdo
Starting point is 00:36:34 and I remember one year I did my hair like at Christmas and my mum was like Jilly I really don't think that that is a hairdo for Christmas Day hen I was like mum we're talking about and I pure loved it it was like an instant face left but I'm really paying for it now so what the flip side then
Starting point is 00:36:51 what's your favourite look ever? I would probably say maybe one of a Cichella looks but I feel like that because like a pure iconic like that's a fashion moment going to Coachella. Yeah. It's got like a buzz about it as well. It totally does, yes. I would probably say one of my Coachella looks was like one of my favourites and cause it was like that's just like a walking catwalk for influencers. So I was just like everyone. What do they say the influencer Olympics? Influencer Olympics. Actually it actually is like it's a crazy
Starting point is 00:37:15 What'd you go back? I would go back if a brand wants to pay for me to go because it's absolutely extortionist but there are some people that go and I think maybe have an idea that they're going to be like a British festival and it's not at all. Our festivals are elite We love taboos, British people. Because I don't drink at the stage. You can't. If you've got a VIP ticket, you can drink in the VIP and that looks like a main stage, but you can't. I mean, you can also sneak your drink out, which I absolutely obviously did.
Starting point is 00:37:42 But yeah, they're really strict with it. So like if you're in a tent, there's a bar area and you need to drink your drink in there and then go out. That's shit. It's bizarre, isn't it? So I think a lot of people were just getting high on weeds. That absolutely reeks of weeds everywhere. I think that's quite an American thing.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. though but I just kind of take it for it being more of like an experience rather than it being like a boozy weekend yeah I would absolutely love to go right but even the thought of trying to put one never mind what three outfits together I'm out right guys it's a lot of I've changed my mind I'm not going anymore I could never took me a very long time to get the outfits and because I think it is like a pure fashion thing like I think you think these the pressure be absolutely iconic there's obviously crap parts about it like walking to the festival so long because it's in the middle of nowhere isn't it middle and middle and
Starting point is 00:38:27 where it's obviously absolutely roasting but then it gets to night time then it's absolutely freezing but it's a cool experience I don't know maybe I've done again I'm thinking more glass and brew but you know yeah I would really really really really wanted
Starting point is 00:38:39 to glass in the next year it looks mega yeah I like like Transmit here and I love Transmit I just like British festivals and I love that yeah yeah no Scotland no party Biggest fashion inspo icons out there go on Instagram I really really love that influencer Leonie Han
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh yeah yeah yeah A German girl she's amazing and like really over the top in our content is just absolutely iconic. But for INSpo, I really like following stylists on Instagram. Yes. See if I like a celebrity, I'll find a celebrity stylist and then I'll follow the stylist. So like
Starting point is 00:39:09 good ones to follow. Danny Michelle, like she styles Haley Bieber sometimes now. She styles Kendall Jenner. Carla Welch, she's a really good one. Jill Jacobs studio. I used to really, really love Style Me Maeve. She was the one that pure elevated, Haley Beaver, and become like
Starting point is 00:39:25 a pure icon. And like she did help Megan Fox's a wee bit but she has went down a weird she's lost in her she's lost it and followed her I'm so upset
Starting point is 00:39:33 she's my icon but I think following stylists is really really good because they also know it's going to be banging and they put stuff together cool that you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:39:41 really think about I love following people on Instagram I actually love it would you never do styling never something you wanted to go down I did it a wee bit
Starting point is 00:39:49 and I was like absolutely can't stand this I hate it because I would put outfits together and think they'd be absolutely banging and then someone would be like oh I don't really like that
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I'd just be thinking, right, but you're asking me for trial advice. So, like, you obviously need it. Like, you should put that outfit on. You'll like it. Try it. Yeah. If I just thought, you know what? No.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Can't be bothered doing it. It's a lot of pressure as well, isn't it? A lot of pressure, yeah. Actually, like, a lot of, you need really good contacts for it as well, because it's a lot of stuff that celebrities wears, borrowed. Yeah. So you need to have good contacts with brands and brands need to believe in the person that you're dressing to actually want to give the people the outfits.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Another thing that you're massively into as well, Julie, is renting. So I know you like quite a few apps out there for, like, renting bags or renting bags or renting dresses. Another thing that I really struggle with every season is, especially now after COVID, there's a lot of weddings coming up, so being a wedding guest, for example, what the hell do I wear to these? For that, for example, I probably would wear quite a nice dress that I maybe wouldn't really have a chance to wear again. Absolutely. So what do you suggest for those sort of things? There's an app, well, it's a website called her, H-U-R-R, and it's actually, it works with self-ogeys. Yes. So it's got amazing designers on it, and for someone that loves fashion as well,
Starting point is 00:40:53 I would maybe be able to rent something that I would never be able to afford to buy. For like 40 quid. Exactly. And it feels amazing to be able to wear that. And like you said, you don't feel wasteful because it's going back and someone else is going to get a use out of it. So that's a good one. Buy rotation is a good one.
Starting point is 00:41:08 They do shoes and bags. And you can actually, you can rent your stuff out as well. Yeah, I was going to say that. If you've got stuff as well that you can rent it out and earn a wee bit of cash. Oh, cool. And I never know that. If you are buying, if you're building your cash reward, or you do buy something as a way bit more expensive.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Rent it out for a wee bit and get your money back for yourself. Yeah. Wow. Another good one for a bad. bags is called Cocoon Club and that's actually a membership. I think the cheapest one starts at like 18 pound and I know and you get a bag a month and then you just send the bag back. That's actually probably one of my favourite ones because I think it's like economically
Starting point is 00:41:39 one of the best. I also think with bags now it's very like a trend thing with a lot of designer bags. So it's like why would you want to spend a couple thousand pound on something to then you actually probably will never use it again? Or you will be in 40 year. There is certain brands obviously like Chanel where it's more an investment. Yeah. Because you probably would get your money back over time, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah. But even, like, can I have a Chanel bag for Christmas? It's an investment. Guys, if anything bad ever happens, I'll sell it, put it towards what we need. But it's true that it actually is worth more. No, the money does go on. It is now. Increase their prices every year.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Whereas, like, Ajakimis or Fendi, like, a lot of them are bringing out, like, would literally last you, like, six months on trend. You are right? Yeah, no, 100%. Not all the time, but, yeah, like, the patterns and all that. But that's obviously for the mega rich and famous because if you're not buying a 500 pound bag for a trend unless you've got the cash monies.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So that's why it's good if you want it. Million percent. At the trend, we can rent it. Okay, so we'll move on to some listeners questions. Yeah, we gave me a little clue and I think everyone knows who is coming on the pod today. Yeah, everyone knows. I know we've kind of touched on it,
Starting point is 00:42:46 but give us like your five staple pieces that you need to have in your wardrobe at all times. So I know you just slaughtered a blazer, but you do need a blazer. No, I agree. I just wish I could branch out from a blazer I just sometimes can't. I understand, yes. So I would say a really good blazer, one that
Starting point is 00:43:02 probably are neutral, so that you can wear it with a lot of things. A good pair of jeans, a nice pair of tailored trousers, a good white t-shirt, a good racer neck as well. A nice white shirt that you can layer over things. I know this is definitely over five now.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No, that's fine. And, what else? A good leather jacket. Yeah. Probably dole as number 13 or that's what you should, that one's the one you should get. For sure. Agree. Can I actually ask you a question? Of course you can.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Because I'm really intrigued by this. I don't know if anyone's asked, but I want to ask you this. What is your five Desert Island items? More like on the beauty side of things, because I know you're massively into beauty, but I would love to know what you'll take. Or even what's in your makeup bag?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Right, okay. Oh, I've got, oh wait, no, ask me one of those questions. Okay, your five staple beauty items. Right, okay. So I would have an eyebrow gel. any particular one. I really, really like that. Anastasia, brow freeze. Oh, do you? Really, really like it. And actually when I was on that fab skin care trip, one of the girls has a, she's an eyebrow lady, but she actually also starts her own brand. She brought out an eyebrow pencil, so she gave me it to try and it's unreal. It's called niche brow coat. Oh yeah, and it's so thin. I love it. So brows is probably one of the most important things for me. Yeah. SPF, because we're ginger and we're also an old age pensioner, so I don't want to wrinkle anymore. If I'm on a desert island, it's going to be sunny. So I need my SPBF. I really like this by Terry. I think it's called, oh, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's like tea to tan or something I can't remember and it's basically just a bronze serum and I use that now instead of foundation because like I said, I'm an old age pensioner and I just feel like foundation just sinks into my wrinkles. I hate it. I don't like the feeling on. It's not comfy. So I'll do that to just give me my colour
Starting point is 00:44:44 and then I just laid up with concealer and then powders and I just think it gives like that nice kind of clean girl dewy look. I love that. I love Bert's Bees. Oh yeah, you love that I love Burt's B's lip balm
Starting point is 00:44:56 I've got chronic dry lips So I love that You actually do always have lip balm on Me it's so bad I don't know what happened I actually think Carmex might have really triggered it
Starting point is 00:45:07 So I was addicted to that stuff When I was about 13 It's when you put Vaseline And Carmex Are apparently the two That if you keep wearing it It gives your dry lips Because there's an ingredient in it
Starting point is 00:45:16 It makes your lips Need it Yeah it's wild in it I know I can't believe you not said Fake Tan Oh I was getting it getting there. Oh, I was going to say, whoa. I really, and oh, any of these clips are going to
Starting point is 00:45:27 go on social media because my face isn't that isn't that great. Right now, I really love tannologists new. It's this express, it's a really long, windy name, tanologist, I wish you had one that was a wee bit shortery name. What is it? It's express, it's extra dark, express, one hour mousse, and it's this really like, buttery consistency, put it on for one hour and I wash it off and I'm tanned and I don't ruin my bed sheets. I love that. I love that. I love it. The InstaGlove from Tanologist though is elite instant tan.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Magic Harry Potter himself concocted that in the dark hearts clad body makeup. It's not normal. I love it and actually really like that on my face as well. Yeah. Also that's so good for see if I've got absolutely no tan on.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Putting that on itself is quite stressful because it's so thick. See if you make it with moisturiser. Yeah. Love that. So true. And you use a little brush as well just like go over your dry bits
Starting point is 00:46:16 and your hands and feet. Yeah. You tan face spray the coconut one. Oh. I love that. I actually put that sometimes and then I'll put that on underneath my makeup. And then once, because girls that fake tan out there,
Starting point is 00:46:27 you obviously do your skincare and it slips off your face. So I think if you put it on underneath your makeup and then by that night, watch your face off and then you've got... I've heard the Jamie Genevieve one's meant to be really good. The TVD one, yeah. It's really good. Obviously, I can't see pastile of Paradise, but, you know. Really good for helping your skin.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yes, I've heard that, yeah. Something to do with the CBZ. Right. Wow. Okay, that was interesting. I love that. I love seeing what people's makeup bag, I mean I think we know the answer to this one
Starting point is 00:46:54 but someone has said are crocs really a thing now or am I just not down with the kids? I'll be honest I don't wear my crocs as much as what I did when I did first have them I wear them around the house and if I'm just knitting out quickly
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'll wear them but you don't have to like everything so see if you don't think crocs are for you that's fine hen you are down with the kids it's just not your style it's okay however what I will say is they're so comfy man and you're really denying yourself a comfort even if you just take them to get the bins out
Starting point is 00:47:23 I actually didn't buy into the talk thing I've not got a pair this year the platform ones for me is elite I do draw the line you got those Gucci ones and they're cute yeah they were rented though were they yeah rented them I love that
Starting point is 00:47:37 yeah but they're different that H-U-R-R-H-R-H-R-H someone would like to know a ginger girl colour palette yes do you know what by the way because I there was a lot of things that I used to say that I couldn't wear
Starting point is 00:47:49 to be fair there's some things that I say that I can't really wear. I think as long as we avoid orange, I think we're fine because we are orange and if you're ginger, you don't tan, you've got fake tan on stuff. It means you're orange. I think orange is the only color that I don't really think we wear that well. But I honestly, like anything other than that, I think colors pop on us. Yeah, I think, green, right, pink, banging blue, banging, I love colors on gingers. I like that. It's such a cool contrast. Kaki, yeah, iconic on ginger. Oh my God, I sound as if I'm being people are like, oh, I can wear any. colour. Yeah, you can, you can.
Starting point is 00:48:23 But yeah, I think it's such a nice contrast. We're here. Love that for you. And last but absolutely not least, can we talk about the tuna salad? I'm like, can we? Why have we not spoken about it already? Everyone wants to know how, why, what to do.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I don't know why there is, the... For anyone that's this and that doesn't know, Jillie. She's obsessed with John West tuna salads. In particular, and this might throw a look to some people. I really like the sunflower oil one and I actually think that is my secret behind it
Starting point is 00:48:55 because I don't use dressing in my tuna salad I just use the oil from sunflower oil so I think that gives it that nice taste and then you just give it a right good mix you go in Marks and Spencers you get those nice wee pots those wee two for three for two pots and it's like sun dried tomatoes
Starting point is 00:49:11 and like flamed grilled peppers I love beet root I love pickles like feta yeah I love feta but not much on a salads oh I just add all your favorite bits in the chuna salads. However guys I haven't actually lowered my intake because the mercury. The mercury is really bad. Yeah you're not supposed to eat a lot of chuna are you? No I've actually I've put it down to two to a week and it's really difficult. I think it's what baffles me is you would choose that as like I want to have my favourite meal for my dinner tonight
Starting point is 00:49:39 and you would choose a tuna salad. I know guys see when you said what's your death row meal I thought I can't go on that podcast and say a chuna salad because I will get absolutely slaughtered. Yeah you can't. But I'll know. We're not asking you. Love it. You do, you, hon. I feel like all the other questions that were asked in we have kind of covered. Somebody has said how to change from 20s into 30s style without looking too young or too old. Yeah, do you know what? I actually really struggled with that.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Like there's some things now that I think, oh, do you know what? I'm actually a wee bit too old to wear that. But I think it's nice that you come into like a more mature style. I remember when I was like younger and I would wear more trendy things than I remember maybe seeing like someone in their late 20s. I thought, oh, wow, you look so put together. like you are so classy and elegant. I think it's just a thing with age and I think you just need to embrace the fact
Starting point is 00:50:24 that you do get a wee bit older and it was nice that we could wear those things back in the day but now we're classy ladies. Yes. So I'm going to give you some quick fire this or that questions. Chinese or chippy? Chippy. Ougs or crocs?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Ogs. Cats or dogs? Dogs. Costa or Starbucks? I've got a difference for each drink that I like there but I'll just say Costa. Summer or winter? Winter.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Oh, no, I take it back summer Not you said it, is it said it now She's Miss Christmas You're getting your fireplace decorated this year Absolutely, it's Narnia theme That is an exclusive Is it? Exclusive on the pod I'm buzzing
Starting point is 00:51:03 Night in or night out Oh, night out Oh, I'm in a wee bit of party girl face right now But I would usually say night in Stranger Things or Harry Potter Harry Potter Tuna salad or chippy Tuna salad
Starting point is 00:51:18 Gary Neville or Andy Halliday Gary Neville Whoa! Perfect, well let's wrap up the pod there then thank you so much, Julie, for coming on the podcast. We have just loved our little gingerfinx next to the day. You've been an absolute icon, babes.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Loved it. And we won't be back, I'd also support you. She's having like an anxiety attack in the corner, too much black coffee. But yeah, thank you so much. been a pleasure. And I hope anyone listening has got lots of tips because we're now going to buy lots of capsule wardrobe items. Yep. I'm going to go and clean out my whole wardrobe which actually do monthly anyway. And if any girly pops has got any coats or sequins or feathers
Starting point is 00:52:01 that they want to buy, then buy it from Dylan at the end of the life. Oh yeah. And last but not least, Julie may have a little present for you all. Oh my God, listeners. Listen us. a wee dizzy discount 15% off use code plate 15 yes on doula.com or dot com or is it both dula label.com dula label dot com wow she global I definitely recommend the leather jacket I'm obsessed with it but hopefully by the time this podcast goes out Jillie's new collection will be out or nearly out so yeah we'll let you know and we'll keep you updated on the Instagram yay yay and thanks so much for listening and we will see you next
Starting point is 00:52:40 Sweet. And we will tag Jilly's Instagram in the bio below if you want to follow her. See you next Tuesday. See you. See you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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