A Lot On Your Plate - Ep 13: How to build a capsule wardrobe with Jilly Isabella
Episode Date: October 25, 2022Join us and our BFF Jilly Isabella (@jillyisabella) to discuss how to shop more consciously, the key to building a capsule wardrobe, how to normalise outfit repeating and yes…uggs are well and truly... backhttps://www.dulalabel.comUse code PLATE15 for 15% OFFDula leather jacket- - - - - - - - - -Show LinksNAKDCOSUNIQLOWEEKDAYSTRADIVARIUS (for jeans)LEVIS (for jeans)Places to recycleH&MSchuhRental SitesHURRByRotationCocoon ClubRewear SitesDepopVintedUgg styles mentioned:Ultra mini in shade Antelope, Chestnut, BlackUgg Tasman- - - - - - - - - -Follow us on IG @alotonyourplatepodYour HostsJess (@JustJessFood)Zoe (@ZoeQuinnnn)Produced ByCobalt Creative (@cobaltcreativeuk) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to the chart-topping show-stopping best podcast in the world.
We're just kidding, just get it, just get it.
Hello, my little pocket rockets.
Welcome back to A Lot on Your Plate Podcasts.
Welcome back.
Happy Tuesday. How are we all?
How are you, Jess?
Fabulous, thanks, Zoe. How are you?
I'm wonderful.
And I'm very excited because we have our third guest with us today.
We do.
So basically, the guest has come around because me and Zoe, especially recently with the seasons changing,
we've been constantly moaning each other that we never have anything to wear.
I'm sure that we speak volumes for everybody listening to this podcast.
Or that we hate every single thing that we own.
And it's definitely safe to say that there's so many clothing websites out there at the moment.
That's borderline overwhelming.
And I don't think it helps that we feel we need to tap into every given trend
because we are influenced so much by social media.
And we really, all we want is some help on how to minimise our excessive shopping habits,
start to buy smarter and build a good quality, longer lasting capsule wardrobe,
but without breaking the bank.
Yes, sir.
So we thought we would invite the perfect person onto the podcast to help us out.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
Someone who I'm sure most of you listening will know,
and she's one of our bestest friends.
Best buddy.
But if you don't know who she is,
she's an absolute fashion icon,
a business owner for her own fashion label called Dula,
which focuses on normalising outfit repeating
and adding staple timeless pieces
into your wardrobe that you can wear time and time again.
We are very excited to have her join us today.
It's, of course, the Ginger Legend.
That is...
Jillie Isabella.
Hello, Jenny!
Hello, Jess!
How are we?
She's Scottish everyone
She's definitely not English
Also she's currently squirming in her seat
At how awkward this is
Guys I'm so nervous
I've known these girls for honestly
About seven years
I've never felt more awkward
I've never seen a shit herself so much like she's now
She's squirming
It's just because it's like a deafening
It's another form of putting myself out there
And I'm probably just going to get slaughtered for my accent
And I can't be bothered with it
But here we are
We're here. Ease into it, not to worry.
Yeah.
So what have you been up to?
What's been on your plate?
Physically, what's been on my plate?
I had a Chinese last night.
Yum, classic.
Desperately hung over because I went out with Jess and her friends
on Friday in Manchester
and the speed at which they drink alcohol is not normal.
I, I, I, I, I, my glass get put on a table
and Jess's friend, Heather was like,
Jellie, what another drink?
I went, I went, Heather no?
I was just, you lit, that is not even just touched the table.
I know, but we're all getting two.
And I was like, oh, you...
And doubles as well.
And doubles, ah, similar to double.
I was like, what's going on in the Iron Appa Girl's Trip holiday?
That's exactly what he was like.
Obviously, I got led astray because I just do anything to anyone who...
Googling it down.
But also, you said Chinese.
You are also someone like you, where you don't have salt and chili chips and you have boiled rice.
And, like, this is, honestly, I really didn't want to talk about what's going to call my plate
because I get slaughtered all the times.
I'm on board with the normal chips
but there's boiled rice
no we can't get on board with that can't we? No I just
disagree with it it's so salty it is I don't have a heart
attack I'm having curry sauce that's
must have been seeped in about
12 kilos
I do not need
boiled right and I really like salt on my chippy chips
and I don't really like spicy stuff I don't why
I get a Chinese I don't know I'm sure I know but I think that
the non major Chinese things that are Chinese
the best do you know what I mean? You're not
getting all this like...
Yeah, I don't actually really love
Chinese food, I just like a curry.
Yeah.
It's like a chicken curry,
extra onions, boiled rice and chips.
I like extra onions as well.
But I'm not ordering a chicken merryland
it could be a lot worse, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Do you like prawn crackers?
I love prong crackers.
Do you put like the rice in it and it?
And scoop it up.
Yeah.
Everything in it, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But I hate chips and they come in the curry sauce
and then the chips are soggy.
Ooh.
So I have my chips on the side and I just dip it into my curry.
Yeah, okay.
I can get on board with that.
I would do that too.
And what's been on your plate?
What's been a lot on your plate?
What's been a lot on your plate, hen?
What has been a lot on my plate?
I actually think I'm in a very nice headspace right now.
I wasn't during summer.
Like I was in such a rut during summer.
I get out my routine in summer.
You go on holidays and stuff and you're all over the place.
And then I went on this brand trip to Ibitha
with that fab skincare, which is owned by a lot of Porter
that you know.
And it was just such a nice group of Glasgow girls.
It was so nice to go away in a brand trip.
Like Jess, you know, you probably won't really know this.
But for Scottish people,
people you can't on you really can't talk the way you talk around people from england you just
can't work like can't so see sometimes when i go on influencer trips i don't really feel like i can come
across like myself yeah so when i went on that trip i was like this is so nice to go away with all
glasgow people and they were all self-employed all business owners and it was just such a nice
group and we're all talking people up and i just came away and i felt so empowered that's nice yeah laura
porter the owns fab is just such a boss ass bitch she is she isn't she i was like i'm inspired
I am making the most out of life.
So now I remember that and I feel great.
And now you're on a podcast.
I know my podcast.
Because you're a badass bitch.
Here we are.
So we would like to know everything about Dula plays.
Okay.
So it is my fashion label.
It's a women's wear label.
I started it.
I toyed with the idea for maybe about three years before I actually launched it.
It was supposed to be called Edit.
We were supposed to launch it in 2020.
obviously COVID happened and it was like the best thing that ever happened because like
we really like fine-tuned what we wanted it to be. I'm saying we because I talk about it
as if it's a 5,000 person company. But it's just you. But I really like to just say we do we do
this. Yeah. I'm putting it out there. We're going to get there one day. So Dula, the name
Dula and also please any French people out there, any French language speaking people, I don't want
to butcher the language all right. I just think this is a nice way to describe what the brand
was so when I was looking at changing the name which have you had a business
start of us and like you guys I'm sure would have took a wee while to name the
podcast yeah got to ages took ages so um when I was designing at the time it was
like kind of like blazers and tailing and like quite adrogynous styles and just
like masculine and feminine mixed and do and la are masculine and feminine nouns
from language yeah and I just put them together and it's gorgeous and I like to tell
that way story as well yeah it like communicates what the band does
But like I don't want to kind of like stick to that too much.
I'd like for like to do it let it evolve and just be whatever it is.
Yeah.
If we go away a wee bit from that style, it's fine.
Like it just to kind of become.
Yeah.
I remember when you told me as well that when it was originally going to be called edit,
you had this idea in your head that when girls are in the toilets together and nights out
that they would say, where's that from?
And they'd say edit and it didn't really, it could be an edit of what or.
So I wanted a name that was just its name.
There was nothing else that was getting exclusive to itself.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Because a lot of brands use edit now like for anything.
edits that they do.
So people would have been like,
oh, who's edit, is it?
Yeah, really, all, it's good.
So what was your vision then for Dula?
What did you want it to be, you know,
in terms of you and the fashion that you enjoy,
did you want it to be different to something else?
Did you feel there's a gap in the market?
What did you want to achieve with it?
So it takes a long time from like sketching
to actually producing something to sell it.
We take about eight months.
Wow.
Yeah, it's a really long process.
So I didn't want to spend that much time on something
for then someone just to wear it once
and just kind of bin it.
Yeah, yeah.
I remember years and years ago,
my mom got me this leather dress from And Dollar Stories,
which quite an expensiveish fan, mom.
Yeah.
It was a Christmas present so I could wear it when I went to New York.
And I've still got it and I bring it out all the time
and I love it so, so, so much.
So I remember thinking, like,
I love how I feel when I put that out on.
I feel it kind of like when I wear a house of CB stuff as well.
It just feels so nice when I have it on.
So anything that I designed,
I wanted people to buy something that they'd be like,
I love that so much.
I'm going to bring that out.
my wardrobe every single year.
So that was just kind of the idea behind like...
Timeless pieces.
Exactly.
Timeless pieces that are going to last in your wardrobe
and that you enjoy waiting all the time.
So that was kind of where like the normalising outfit,
repeating slogan came from as well.
Yeah, I love that slogan so much.
I do.
It's brilliant.
I think it's great.
I'm like thoroughly enjoying this because we have these chats
but you're just about like, yeah, cool.
But now you're really getting into it.
And I'm like, wait, wait, just like, I'm like, intelligent.
Yeah, he does.
We love it.
So in terms of starting Doola then,
how the hell, for anyone listening to this podcast,
how do you go about starting a business?
So I was quite lucky.
My mum and dad's always self-employed,
and I've been around so many entrepreneurs in my life.
So I was very lucky that I could ask a lot of people
like where to start and what to do.
But if you don't have that, like Google's your best friends.
It's very much like you have a business idea,
you write a business strategy,
you have a plan, you find funding from somewhere,
you register the company
you start a bank account
but I think a lot of people are like
but how do I actually start what I do
blah blah blah and I just need to start it
yeah there's so much that I
yeah there's so much that I've learned
from Dula only having it about a year and a half
now that I would have never
have known if I had a not
so sometimes I wish to myself
God I wish I started that sooner
yeah so you can learn from your mistakes
kind of thing 100%
and there's just things that you can't learn
from just like reading something
you just need to do
yeah so if there's people you can ask
then definitely ask
and say when it's like clothing
or, if you're selling a product, how do you find, like, where to get that from?
Like, if you don't just make it on your own, like, in-house or whatever.
You may not supply it.
Yeah, like, so suppliers or manufacturers.
LinkedIn is one of the best tools.
You just search, like, for example, if you're wanting something produced,
you just search for factories, and then there's people that, I work at this factory,
I do this, that, do that.
Yeah.
That's one of the best places, I think, that everyone can access, and then again,
networking is the most thing I've been lucky that, like,
throughout my career, I did a lot, a lot, a networking.
Yeah, true.
Because you've also had a fashion background as well.
Exactly. And you actually went out there, didn't you, to see the factories years ago?
Yeah, uh-huh.
Went out in 2019, and it was amazing. It was so interesting.
And it was good to actually see the factories working as well, making sure that, like,
exploiting workers wasn't.
Of course, yeah.
Like, safety and all that.
Which, as blurred lines, there's a lot of people that maybe don't have the access to be able to go and do that.
So you need to be careful.
but I was just one of the important things
that when we started, I didn't want to add to any issues
like we're definitely in a state of the world
and we're overconsuming a lot of things
like I wanted to start something that I was proud of
I always seen myself doing a business
and I couldn't really see myself doing anything else
so I just wanted to make sure that when I was starting it
I was being safe and doing so I'm not adding to it anymore
yeah absolutely
and what would you say has been the biggest struggle
so far with starting the business
have you found any obstacles on the way
many. Many. I am cloning, climbing a high hill right now and I'm nowhere near the summit. I'm falling back.
Right now logistics is a nightmare. Like Brexit was an issue. COVID cost is an issue. I really didn't know anything about logistics either. Basically as well, I got really good tips from one of my family members and they said that when you sell something and you're deciding on the price of it, you need to divide absolutely everything that goes into it.
So put aside your labour, your, like, materials you buy.
Like, you need to think of your packaging.
So how much does that box that you're putting in that outfit?
And what does that cost?
Then you need to think of how much that cost to actually ship that here.
And a lot of where your profit comes from is making sure that all those things are really low.
So then now for us, logistics is a nightmare just because the cost of everything is rising.
So that that's a specific thing.
But in general, when you start a business and you're just trying to keep costing,
you're obviously doing everything yourself so you don't have employees.
so like every single one of my family members
has been a part of something in there
and get zero rewards from it right now.
So that is probably the most difficult thing
is just kind of doing it yourself
but you just have to do it
so you can't moan about it
it, it just is something you have to do.
I mean you definitely do a lot of motivation
and patience.
Yeah, you do.
A lot, a lot of patience.
When I started that I've read some daft
like business for Dummies Book or something
and they says that it takes about five years
for you to actually start seeing
like really good profits and kind of getting something out of it.
Because any profit you get,
you actually put straight back into doing it, don't you?
Yeah.
I wouldn't be able to take a call from that now,
just kind of productive.
So it feels unrewarding right now.
Sometimes I'm like, why am I doing this?
I think that's why I was going to be able to do it in my life.
So I was like, what I'm doing my life?
Why am I doing this?
I'm going to run away at an island
and just chill there and live off the land.
And then I was like, snap out of here.
So yeah, I think if you're like,
if you're really at your entrepreneurship,
you want your own business, you make it work.
I suppose you'll have the small rewards,
like when people are wearing it here there.
That must feel great when they tag it.
nuggets like that will keep you going until there's like the big reward and it's really like
made it and actually getting something off the ground and running it as well see even it's
even only one person bought something from Dula I'm like that is so sick man like well done
like someone actually wants to spend your hard cash because you were drawing a wee sketch and
then somebody actually bought it and then it's like I think that's mega and the fact that like
it never had any like branding to it and then I did all the branding and it's this only thing
it's like my child yeah I do I love it yeah so um I
kind of obviously you can understand a lot
are you talking about
because I used to work in the fashion industry
on the supplying side.
So when you talk about starting a new business,
how is it, because obviously I know this
with working with factories,
getting like minimum orders
because like you said,
every single thing you have to be cheap
as possible to make yourself a profit.
Even from your boxes,
you'd need to buy them in huge bulk
or quantity of the leather jacket,
for example, to get the price minimised
you would need to buy a lot
so you need a lot of cash up front.
Have you found struggles with that
with getting minimum orders?
100%.
One of the main issues
because then it's also like a wee bit daunting
because you're thinking,
God, I've got quite a lot of that
that needs to sell.
But it's just one of those things
that comes when you start a small business
that you can't really avoid it.
Of course, yeah.
And that's one of the things
that's holding us back
the now with size expansion
because just now we are not
at when I want us to be with size inclusion.
Like we've got four sizes.
Like it's not good enough
but we just don't have the funding
to get it there.
I'm going to explain it a wee bit
because I think people don't really understand.
That's what I'm meaning.
People don't understand
with these small businesses.
is what they actually need to put up from.
You can't just launch a business and have like all sizes.
It's impossible.
Unless you've got an endless pot of cash.
Unless you're Kim Kardashian,
which I am not.
Not yet.
Not yet.
So when you are getting something produced
and you're creating patterns
and patterns is what the pattern cutters
cut from to actually.
It's like building blocks.
That's what they do to put the tops together.
For each size, you need to pay that size
to be graded and scaled.
So each size has a cost.
So to be very transparent,
we just don't have the funding there right now to scale it.
But that is the main goal that we will work towards
that hopefully by about a year or two time
will have a full size range.
Because that's obviously a lot of brands
that we do shop on mostly like the fashion ones.
It's taken them quite a lot of years
to get to a plus size range
because they've needed to build that business
from quite small at the start.
For sure.
I really love that girl Grace Beverly.
and she has that sustainable brand Tala
and it's like all the gym wear
and it's gorgeous stuff
and that's them only just launching
their like expanding the size range
and house of CB as well yeah
that's why I don't want to put too much pressure on it
because I'm looking at these big massive
multi-million businesses
that are only just doing it now
and I think as well you want to launch it
and it be perfect
of course so that's something that we'll work towards
for Dula but it's just one of those things
they know yeah people just have too much to say
Yeah, I think
Definitely
It's always something isn't there
I think it comes from
See if you don't have a business
I think see if people
Have been employed by someone
I think they're the ones
That usually have more to say
I think I've just been lucky
That I've seen both sides
I've worked
Yeah
Yeah
And then I've seen business as well
So I can understand
That people would maybe have
A certain idea in their head
Because they're not in it
They don't know
Yeah
That's fair
But stop doing that to me
Okay
Because I'm trying my best
And now they know
Because they've listened
To my life
So what's to come
Fudula
What have we got to look
forward to.
So we've got our winter collection
coming out but I can't wait for
because I'm very much a winter dress
and I'm a lot cooler in the winter
I can do layers
it's just a bit
it's the best time to dress
so we've got our winter collection
coming nice coats
I've seen a few teases
on your Instagram
yeah
feathers so that is what's actually
coming that kind of thing
and just like the size expansion thing
is what we're working towards mainly
mm-hmm obsess excited
when's that
when's what
when's it coming
What, oh, the new stuff.
Yes, we need to know.
Oh, wait, when's my stuff that it's coming
that I should sell for my brand?
Coming at the end of October, wow.
Fabulous.
Wow, that's only like, what, two weeks?
Yeah.
That long.
I have, I bought a jacket off Jilly's website,
Dooler when it first launched,
and it's a leather jacket with a bummer at the back,
and I'm, shit you not.
Every time I wear it, everyone is like,
where is that from?
I genuinely think I will get that out of my wardrobe
time and time again.
For sure.
Because it's just such a perfect.
I don't ever get anything as good as that
and it's fine, I'll just sell leather jackets
for the rest of life.
That's what I was thinking.
I was just going to be talking it.
It's back.
Oh, look guys.
It's back.
Guess you don't guess this.
Look what's back.
So we obviously need help
and I think a lot of listeners do.
How do the hell do we start to build a capsule wardrobe?
I know obviously you do tap into trends as well
but you do it so well where you will mix it with other things
and I don't know how to do that.
I'll buy into a trend.
and I'll buy that top once and I think, oh my God, it's so trendy
and I will probably put it in the charity bag
but you, however, will style it differently
but me as a person I probably can't get away
with some of the things that you wear
because I'm not as cool as fuck as you
but I think I would like to wear something
a bit more staple, capsule.
Where do we start to build the foundations of your wardrobe
to go up and then add in the trendy bits?
I need to know where else I can go from a blazer.
Like a blazer, like we're currently wearing them.
But if blazers stop being a thing, what...
Well, they won't, though, for a stop.
You can't stop being a thing
because that was one of the first things
I was going to be like, you need a staple blazer.
I know, but like, they weren't a thing, really.
Well, like, obviously we're...
It's like a clean girl look now, it's a thing, isn't it?
But see if that stops.
I'm quite truly fucked.
I'm fucked.
It's all aware.
They're so flattering as well.
They are so flattering and they do go with everything.
So I think if you're wanting to start off,
I think you should have your wardrobe a wee purge,
go through things that you've not worn for ages,
sell it on depop,
put that money back towards it.
it. And obviously, whatever you've kept in your wardrobe, it's obviously stuff you like when
you've got it on, you feel good in it, knowing your body, you wear certain shapes. Yeah. So say, for
example, you really like these pair of trousers and then you know that these pair of trousers go
with a bodysuit, a crop t-shirt, and a shirt. Then you just know whenever you're going to buy
again, but okay, well, I know that they go with those jeans, so I'm going to be going to be
going to wear them lots. And then those pair of jeans might go by a nice jacket that's going
to go with something else. So it's just been a way bit more conscious when you're shopping that what
your buying does go with other things because like you said it is easy to tap into trends
and I don't think tapping into trends is a bad thing like I love fashion so much like see when
fashion month comes around I'm so excited to see like what we're going to be wearing in six months
time like in the group chat it pops off Julie literally rates around from a minute at 10
and she goes hard I adore it but I think you should avoid micro trends I think that's where you'll be
like I wore that once and then packed it out yeah so I think you can definitely tap into trends
and enjoy like the wee seasons that comes here and there
but I think the main thing for building your capsule wardrobe
is knowing what you suit and what you like to wear
and then just building it around that.
It is hard finding stuff for your body I think.
Because I try and dress like a six foot size six human being
reality is I'm five foot three for a start
and I'm definitely not a size six either.
Yeah it is annoying and some things you think feel like you can't wear
And to be fair, there's definitely a lot of things that I'm like,
I just can't wear that. I love that on someone else
but I can't. Yeah.
But I don't want you to think that you can't wear
what those six foot people because you can know whatever you want.
Oh, I absolutely could, but would it be clear for the eye, no?
And then it's just, you just want to feel as good as you possibly can
and what you're wearing.
So I think when you know what your body type suits,
then you can't really go wrong.
So if I was to go home today, right, and completely got out my wardrobe,
what do you suggest I'd do with those clothes?
Well, you could sell on Deep Hop or Vinteads.
I sell stuff on Vintead.
I actually have a girl that does it.
she started her own business.
It's called Girls Rewear.
Wow.
Yeah, it's so clever.
She does it for influencers.
So obviously get quite a lot of free clothes, don't they?
Yeah, yeah.
So that's like a nice responsible way to make sure that you're like re-purpose and something.
So yeah, you could sell it.
We actually spoke about this when we were away there.
H&M and actually other high street shops, it's not just H&M, it does it.
Like M&S does it.
Shoe does it as in like actual shop.
And you take any brand of clothing.
It doesn't need to be that brand.
It can be any clothing.
It can be any textiles.
You take it into the shop and you get a voucher.
And then they give it to like this big recycling company that either they recycle it properly,
they resell it or they can use it to make new clothes.
I know that may sound a wee, but like that's daft because then you're just like buying more clothes.
But it's more just like those clothes don't end up in a landfill.
Yeah.
And that's where the issue is.
Yeah.
Because the fashion industry is like it's one of the top plurality industries now, which is wild to think about.
Because a lot of people won't come away from fast fashion or constantly.
buying new clothes let's be honest but at least if they're selling old clothes or handing them in
even if they're getting money to buy new ones at least they're doing something with the old ones
and not just bidding them and i do think as well like might be an unpopular take but i do think
there is space for fast fashion i think the businesses just may need to be a wee bit more responsible
with it but not everybody can buy into sustainability and i do like they're a little bit
not a snobbery but it's definitely you've got a privilege see if you can buy an eight-pound blazer
that you can take out your wardrobe every single year
that's great for you
but if fast fashion was abolished the day after tomorrow
there's going to be a large group of people
that cannot afford to shopping
Million percent
Zara or get their stuff from there
so I think it falls on the fast fashion businesses
to make sure that they're not exploiting their workers
polluting and stealing designs
of small business owners like me
yeah I think it's just like being a wee bit more conscious
with what you're buying
you can buy things that you want to wear time with it again
from fast fashion
but also I do feel
in the next breath of that is
I think if you buy cheap you buy twice
and that does happen to me quite a lot
I'll buy something because I think
it feels good quality I'll wash it once
and it's like a bag of shen
and I think I should have probably
even invested an extra 20 quid on that more
higher quality blazer for example and then it will
last me time and time again I think it's like
maybe a younger thing as well that you don't have as much
of a disposable income with your younger and you go
out every weekend and you want to wear something new
and then you look in your boardroom and you're thinking
and none of that's meant like how many things have you bought
last minute because you're like sugar i'm going out on the weekend i need to get an outfit never
wear again no that's not my style at all why i did that and that like i'm maybe like built a wardrobe
and i thought oh my god i have nothing to wear yeah because it is like that you just buy things last
minute and it is cheap so like it doesn't hold that much value don't feel that bad binning it
and put it away exactly i think we just need to be a bit more conscious with our shopping habits
yeah yeah i mean i used to buy something new for every single weekend but with the purpose was
that I would never wear it again.
Ever again?
I know.
It's terrible.
But what I will say is like maybe that
like our generation definitely were like that
and I think we're growing up to make a more special income
but I don't think that Gen Z are like that.
They are so responsible.
I think they are actually. I think it's why more people are talking about
now because these children are talking about it.
And I do think it is cool to work.
I know what you mean.
I do think it is cool now to see people out for a piece
and I actually look at people think wow that's so cool
that she could style that different name where
back in the day when I was drunk of
like oh my god she wore that last way yeah and I found that as well with building a wardrobe up
that see if I wore something once I'm like I'm gonna bin that I'm not wearing that again
and then maybe see a few months time it comes back around or I wish I kept that that was a
that that would have went so nice with that yes yeah and then that's when you start like
being a wee bit like being a wee bit okay I'd really like that t-shirt and I know for a fact
that that's going to go with these things so I'm not going to bin them I'm going to keep them
yeah I actually also don't really care when I wear stuff again now like see if it's
I feel nice in yeah and we at least feel nice in it for sure I don't really care
There was a program I watched.
Not long ago, I think it was on Netflix.
What's that woman's name where she organises everyone's...
Yeah.
And she said something like, if you have a wardrobe and everything's hung, for example,
every time you put it back, turn the...
If your hanger can do it, twist it round.
And at the end of the year, anything that's twisted the other way,
you haven't wore for a year, so get it out.
That's clever.
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, I don't either, but anyone that does, I thought that's quite a good idea.
So you look at it and you think, oh, I'll keep it.
But every time I go through, I think maybe I'll wear that one day,
but you never actually do.
I remember her saying as well
that if you are like cleaning out your wardropes
for example you're going to go home
and try and start capturing wardrobe
yeah she says you need to hold it
and you have to hold it to your heart
and if it doesn't feel it
if you don't feel it for three months
coming off my tank top
I was like spiritually I really understand that
Marie I'm going to open that
my fuck sake
so right where do we start then
give us some obviously apart from the obvious
which is Dula but where
give us some good examples of some websites
or stores that we could go into
where the hell would you recommend us to shop
to buy some good quality things
I've recently really really love being loving
any KD I don't know if it's NAKD or naked
you love it but it's I think it's like a Scandy brand
and their stuff is really really nice quality
and it's not too expensive it definitely is
like on the price your side it isn't fast fashion
prices but fast fashion sustainability
do not go fast fashion good quality don't go
just like I said you definitely are in a privileged position
if you can buy better things
but you are going to need to spend
a wee bit more money. So I like
Kenny KD, I like
weekday. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've seen you've
been wearing quite a few weekday trousers. Love
weekday. They've been really nice tailoring and nice
basics, like elevated basics. I think they've got a store here
up in Scotland. Oh because Glasgow has nothing.
I know, but there's so much store space.
65 Greggs in one street.
But God forbid we get a Zara home.
I know. Also weekday on like, in fact, naked as well
go on ASOS. Yeah, they do. And it's different
prices because you're not.
not getting like the European crossover, whatever that is.
Yeah, that's true.
And we were actually talking.
Yeah, I love that.
We were talking about this in our car,
weren't we?
Because you have, this is cos actually,
but you're wearing a cost.
Coss.
Yeah, I love cost.
But that, again, that is like a wee bit pricier.
Yeah, but their quality of T-shirts are so nice.
So as you look at your T-shirt,
I was like, that looks such nice quality.
Yeah, I've got stuff that I've got from the cost
like years ago that I still have because they just wash well.
I actually do have the same like H&M as well.
I think H&M's great quality.
Yeah, it is.
And there, I would say definitely.
affordable. For sure. Like active wear, I like Adonola. They've been nice basics. Another
version. They're another good one. Oh, Uniclo. They're great. They're great for T-shirts.
Unbelievable for T-shirts. Yeah. So nice. Mm. Okay. Nice basics. Elevated basis.
What about jeans? Jeans. I love Levi jeans. They're my absolute favorite. Actually, we love
A-Sos jeans as well. Weekday jeans. I have a few from Weekday as well. I also thank
Stradivarius jeans are good.
Yeah, they are good.
They're like,
the shops are shithole but the online's great.
Would not, thank you
for walking in Stradivarius
walked right back out.
Stradivarius.
It's an enjoyable shopping.
Yeah.
That, Bershka and Poulin-Bair.
Remember we went into all them
in Edinburgh?
Oh, foolish.
But on Asos it looks so nice.
And they have nice quality stuff
is real true.
Yeah.
Affordable.
Yeah.
Because Aesos get all the nice bits
like the basic nice stuff
and then the shops like for my 17-year-old sister.
Yeah.
It's very.
I'm just actually not really an in shopper
person. I love a shop on the website.
I only am for H&M.
HNM's better in store, I think.
Oh, I highly disagree.
Really? Well, to be fair.
There's so much to consume.
You really have to search in there.
It's very overwhelming.
I think it's because I just passed through it.
Every time I go my lunch, I like walk through the H-Nam in Glasgow.
So like, I just always know it's in there.
She'll find it quite easy, you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
Quite a nice store in Bacan Street, actually.
Yeah, it is.
So how would you suggest that anyone listening and us, how could we stop avoiding
overordering with fast fashion brands like or just in general how do we stop over ordering I think
if you do just think in your head like consciously I mean it's it's hard because obviously people
are going to want to buy new things when like going on night outs and things like that like it is just
like we are a consuming society and like we're on social media and it is just kind of like part
and parcel like this generation but for me I just know that when fast fashion stuff comes I'm just
not going to like it on the corner it's just not good and I just like to feel good in the clothes that I wear
so I know at the time you're spending a wee bit more money
you're thinking oh god like could have done maybe spending 40 pounds instead of 80 pound
I just know that I'm going to be able to wear it and feel good in it
I think you just avoid it just by being a wee bit more conscious
with your purchasing decisions yeah I just think what jelly said about
if you're not going to wear it again don't order it yeah yeah that's a good benchmark
for it as well I've definitely got to the point now though where I find online shopping
completely overwhelming where I'll go and get my tabs all open at the tops I'll have
Zara, Mango, naked, nasty girl.
I'll get them all up and then I have everything in my basket that I think looks nice
and I just won't order it because I'm like, I'm so overwhelmed.
That's probably my ADHD kicking him.
Yeah, I think it definitely is.
I think there's some web, see, like, pretty little thing.
Oh, no.
I have never, I have not gone on there.
There's two many genres of people on there.
So, like, I don't, I don't find, like, that overwhelming, like, going on to Zara.
Because see when I go on Zara, I'm going on Zara for a specific...
What were then modelling on an oven top?
I'm like, wow, that shape of time.
I love that. I'm taking that idea for Jula.
Swinging up a lightball.
That's shoo in the microwave.
Why are they like that?
Why are they like that?
Because people talk about them is smart.
Yeah, Zara is a bit like that.
But I think like PLT way to overwhelm when there's too many genres.
I don't know who I am on PLT when I'm not on there.
And then I get a, maybe I'd get a wee bit kind of away.
I've not shopped on PLT for, I don't know how long.
Me neither.
But it used to be the place.
They used to be the place.
There's just too much choice on it.
Yeah.
So that's why like going on Adonola.
you know you're going to get nice basics going on,
go, I'm going to get...
Always sold out, though.
Pisses me off, but it makes you want it more.
No, you know what they're doing.
And they do know what they're doing, they're smart.
Right, and the big question,
what do we need for this autumn winter, Julie?
Tell us.
Yeah, what's coming?
Oh, would you like, oh, we'd like to trend forecast?
Yes.
So I have got a pair of other boots on.
Look at the look at us up and down then
seeing what we were wearing on her feet.
And I'm like, I have actually been shouting about this since 2020, you guys.
You have.
You bought Oggs back.
You did.
You categorically did.
And at the time, like, what was it, like a year and a half ago, you were saying it.
And even I was like, okay, you can try, honey.
But it fucking worked.
Do you know, who was it?
I seen someone on Instagram have them.
I just think it was Hattie Bourne.
And I was like, wow, they look quite cool on her.
And then I think I put it on my Instagram being like, our uggs, I think.
And the majority of people said no.
So you thought, well, you know what?
Nothing motivates me more than people saying, though.
They're trying to prove people wrong.
So then I ordered them and I thought, nah, these are actually shit hot.
I love these.
and I've honestly got about six pairs of them now.
What is the style that you've been starting recently that are quite in?
Not the platform, the other ones.
The ones who...
The ones has slippers.
Yeah, love them.
Guys, it's comfort, okay?
You didn't say you've got slippers on,
then I leave and I put my outdoor slippers on.
I think actually COVID as well made our styles a lot more like casual.
I think that's why the working stock.
Million percent.
Love them.
They're so comfortable.
I cannot be bothered tying up.
I'm sure leases, I can't be bothered.
It's honestly, it's true.
And I don't need to wear socks when I wear ugs.
and you can wear them with anything.
You can, yeah.
Ogs go with everything.
See, if you wear a wee cute skirt,
put a nice wee pair of socks on with them.
Gorgeous.
I am a Gen Z-Y2K.
You really are.
I've got a pen of joggies on
and I don't put them,
they go with everything.
So I think a pair of Ugg boots,
for sure, if you don't get them now,
you're going to be regretting it.
I can't get them now.
I've got a pair, right?
I've tried to get the Antelope color and I can't get them anyway.
That's the one I've got.
The answer is the very first color I got,
and everyone struggles to get that color.
Do you think I should go for chestnut then or black?
I think chestnut.
Do you?
Yeah, chestnut gives me like a granny in the Hamptons
that, like, you live in a big, rich gaff
and she has like a tan watch
and she wears the chestnut, og boots.
Okay.
But I do love my black ones as well.
Yeah, there really cool.
And I do love the platform ones
because I'm about the same height as Zoe
and I need to know,
because I was thinking about this with the platform,
do you follow your ankle?
I don't know.
I was breaking my ankles for them.
That gives me, like, you know,
when you get platform slippers
and you're constantly like over your ankle in them.
But listen, we have to sacrifice for fashion.
Okay, I might get the black ones because I've got the...
Do you know what else you definitely bought back?
Well, you were a part and parcel of it.
Crocs in the summer.
Love my crocs.
I love my crocs and that was another thing
that people were like, no, you're not bringing them back.
I was like, watch me.
Watch me, I will.
It's just comfort again.
They are the confusing for that for sure.
Other stuff, though, that people might, like,
because I know that it is maybe like marmite ugg boots.
Bally flats, I can't go on the train.
I see people saying they're coming back, I'm like, absolutely not.
But listen, if you can do it, fair enough.
Fair fox.
Fair fox.
But I think with these calves, absolutely.
No, I can't.
But they are so chic.
I think I think classy, scandy style is really banging right now.
And the girls have been wearing those Chanel Bally Flats.
You will never catch me dead in a pair of ballet flats.
No, since I lesgo.
Moufers, yeah, but not.
Dolly shoes?
Remember dolly shoes?
You got dolly shoes.
I will never wear them again.
No.
I'm not on with that.
I've just got fat, flat feet.
I've got fat feet, fat calves, cancals, my legs are literally length.
My knees have good faces because there's so much pressure.
I feel my thighs going down on it.
Simply can't have a bit of belly pumps on.
And also, even the people I'm seen wearing them are not even doing it for me.
No, I do.
I do love it.
I can really appreciate.
There's some things.
She can do what she wants.
Yeah, she can do whatever she wants.
But even with her, I'm like, that one.
time was enough, sweetie.
I think it's like that
might be like a wee bit of microchend
that you may like chuck away
a few minute later.
Adida Sampa's bang back in
preppy style. I love preppy style
though like you do that very well.
Yeah, that's my go too.
So a nice wee pair of loafers
and like a wee pleated skirt.
Yes, I love that.
Aviator jackers, bombers are back.
Yeah.
Love a bomber.
Love a bomber.
Love a bomber.
Love a bomber. I was like a really nice
aviator like thrifted
that like it flew a warplane.
Like that's the aviator.
I'm on the hunt for any
listeners. I've seen one in a vintage shop.
You better get shopping. Okay.
Right, right.
What would you say is your biggest fashion
disaster? We got
five years. How long we got?
I'm quite bad though because I will wear
something and then I look back and it like a month ago
and I was like oh, I jilly that outfit was shocking.
It's just because like it's on my Instagram and I can
go back and over-analyze it. I don't know
how much I've obviously wore absolutely tragic
outfits in my life but I remember I
was doing this hairstyle for a while
and it was this, like, scraped back, really, really tight pony
because I was obsessed with how it made my face look like I had a face lift.
It was actually when we worked a quiet.
I know, I remember.
And it was this tight bun and I put it right at the top of my head.
Oh, I remember when you did that.
And I looked like this, like, divorced, 40-year-old
that has been all our payout for the divorce, trying to look younger.
And it was so harsh, and I did it with every outfit.
It's like the outfits might not be that bad,
but that hairstyle made everything tragic.
I also gave you bald patches at the front of your hand
I have severe receiving hairline
because I had a hairdo
and I remember one year I did my hair like at Christmas
and my mum was like Jilly I really don't think
that that is a hairdo for Christmas Day hen
I was like mum we're talking about
and I pure loved it
it was like an instant face left
but I'm really paying for it now
so what the flip side then
what's your favourite look ever?
I would probably say maybe one of a Cichella looks
but I feel like that because like a pure iconic
like that's a fashion
moment going to Coachella. Yeah. It's got like a buzz about it as well. It totally does, yes. I would
probably say one of my Coachella looks was like one of my favourites and cause it was like
that's just like a walking catwalk for influencers. So I was just like everyone. What do they say
the influencer Olympics? Influencer Olympics. Actually it actually is like it's a crazy
What'd you go back? I would go back if a brand wants to pay for me to go because it's absolutely
extortionist but there are some people that go and I think maybe have an idea that they're
going to be like a British festival and it's not at all. Our festivals are elite
We love taboos, British people.
Because I don't drink at the stage.
You can't. If you've got a VIP ticket, you can drink in the VIP
and that looks like a main stage, but you can't.
I mean, you can also sneak your drink out, which I absolutely obviously did.
But yeah, they're really strict with it.
So like if you're in a tent, there's a bar area and you need to drink your drink in there
and then go out.
That's shit.
It's bizarre, isn't it?
So I think a lot of people were just getting high on weeds.
That absolutely reeks of weeds everywhere.
I think that's quite an American thing.
Yeah.
though but I just kind of take it for it being more of like an experience rather than it
being like a boozy weekend yeah I would absolutely love to go right but even the thought
of trying to put one never mind what three outfits together I'm out right guys it's a lot of
I've changed my mind I'm not going anymore I could never took me a very long time to get the
outfits and because I think it is like a pure fashion thing like I think you think these
the pressure be absolutely iconic there's obviously crap parts about it like walking to the festival
so long because it's in the middle of nowhere isn't it middle and middle and
where it's obviously absolutely roasting
but then it gets to night time
then it's absolutely freezing
but it's a cool experience
I don't know maybe I've done again
I'm thinking more glass and brew
but you know yeah
I would really really really really wanted
to glass in the next year it looks mega
yeah I like like Transmit here
and I love Transmit I just like British festivals
and I love that yeah
yeah no Scotland no party
Biggest fashion inspo icons out there
go on Instagram I really
really love that influencer Leonie Han
Oh yeah yeah yeah
A German girl she's amazing
and like really over the top in our content
is just absolutely iconic. But for
INSpo, I really like following
stylists on Instagram. Yes.
See if I like a celebrity, I'll find a celebrity
stylist and then I'll follow the stylist. So like
good ones to follow. Danny Michelle,
like she styles
Haley Bieber sometimes now. She styles
Kendall Jenner. Carla Welch, she's a
really good one. Jill Jacobs studio.
I used to really, really love
Style Me Maeve. She was the one
that pure elevated, Haley Beaver, and become like
a pure icon. And like she did help
Megan Fox's a wee bit
but she has went down
a weird
she's lost in her
she's lost it
and followed her
I'm so upset
she's my icon
but I think
following stylists
is really really good
because they also know
it's going to be banging
and they put stuff together
cool that you wouldn't
really think about
I love following people
on Instagram
I actually love it
would you never do styling
never something
you wanted to go down
I did it a wee bit
and I was like
absolutely can't stand this
I hate it
because I would put outfits together
and think they'd be
absolutely banging
and then someone would be like
oh I don't really like that
And I'd just be thinking, right, but you're asking me for trial advice.
So, like, you obviously need it.
Like, you should put that outfit on.
You'll like it.
Try it.
Yeah.
If I just thought, you know what?
No.
Can't be bothered doing it.
It's a lot of pressure as well, isn't it?
A lot of pressure, yeah.
Actually, like, a lot of, you need really good contacts for it as well, because it's a lot of stuff that celebrities
wears, borrowed.
Yeah.
So you need to have good contacts with brands and brands need to believe in the person that
you're dressing to actually want to give the people the outfits.
Another thing that you're massively into as well, Julie, is renting.
So I know you like quite a few apps out there for, like, renting bags or renting bags or
renting dresses. Another thing that I really struggle with every season is, especially now after COVID,
there's a lot of weddings coming up, so being a wedding guest, for example, what the hell do I
wear to these? For that, for example, I probably would wear quite a nice dress that I maybe wouldn't
really have a chance to wear again. Absolutely. So what do you suggest for those sort of things?
There's an app, well, it's a website called her, H-U-R-R, and it's actually, it works with
self-ogeys. Yes. So it's got amazing designers on it, and for someone that loves fashion as well,
I would maybe be able to rent something that I would never be able to afford to buy.
For like 40 quid.
Exactly.
And it feels amazing to be able to wear that.
And like you said, you don't feel wasteful because it's going back
and someone else is going to get a use out of it.
So that's a good one.
Buy rotation is a good one.
They do shoes and bags.
And you can actually, you can rent your stuff out as well.
Yeah, I was going to say that.
If you've got stuff as well that you can rent it out and earn a wee bit of cash.
Oh, cool.
And I never know that.
If you are buying, if you're building your cash reward,
or you do buy something as a way bit more expensive.
Rent it out for a wee bit and get your money back for yourself.
Yeah.
Wow.
Another good one for a bad.
bags is called Cocoon Club and that's actually a membership.
I think the cheapest one starts at like 18 pound and I know and you get a bag a month
and then you just send the bag back.
That's actually probably one of my favourite ones because I think it's like economically
one of the best.
I also think with bags now it's very like a trend thing with a lot of designer bags.
So it's like why would you want to spend a couple thousand pound on something to then
you actually probably will never use it again?
Or you will be in 40 year.
There is certain brands obviously like Chanel where it's more an investment.
Yeah.
Because you probably would get your money back over time, wouldn't you?
Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah.
But even, like, can I have a Chanel bag for Christmas?
It's an investment.
Guys, if anything bad ever happens, I'll sell it, put it towards what we need.
But it's true that it actually is worth more.
No, the money does go on.
It is now.
Increase their prices every year.
Whereas, like, Ajakimis or Fendi, like, a lot of them are bringing out, like,
would literally last you, like, six months on trend.
You are right?
Yeah, no, 100%.
Not all the time, but, yeah, like, the patterns and all that.
But that's obviously for the mega rich and famous
because if you're not buying a 500 pound bag
for a trend unless you've got the cash monies.
So that's why it's good if you want it.
Million percent.
At the trend, we can rent it.
Okay, so we'll move on to some listeners questions.
Yeah, we gave me a little clue
and I think everyone knows who is coming on the pod today.
Yeah, everyone knows.
I know we've kind of touched on it,
but give us like your five staple pieces
that you need to have in your wardrobe at all times.
So I know you just slaughtered a blazer,
but you do need a blazer.
No, I agree. I just wish
I could branch out from a blazer
I just sometimes can't. I understand, yes. So I would say
a really good blazer, one that
probably are neutral, so that
you can wear it with a lot of things. A good pair of jeans,
a nice pair of tailored trousers,
a good white t-shirt,
a good racer neck
as well. A nice white shirt
that you can layer over things.
I know this is definitely over five now.
No, that's fine.
And, what else? A good leather jacket.
Yeah. Probably dole as number 13 or
that's what you should, that one's the one you should get.
For sure.
Agree.
Can I actually ask you a question?
Of course you can.
Because I'm really intrigued by this.
I don't know if anyone's asked,
but I want to ask you this.
What is your five Desert Island items?
More like on the beauty side of things,
because I know you're massively into beauty,
but I would love to know what you'll take.
Or even what's in your makeup bag?
Right, okay.
Oh, I've got, oh wait, no, ask me one of those questions.
Okay, your five staple beauty items.
Right, okay.
So I would have an eyebrow gel.
any particular one. I really, really like that. Anastasia, brow freeze. Oh, do you? Really, really like it. And actually when I was on that fab skin care trip, one of the girls has a, she's an eyebrow lady, but she actually also starts her own brand. She brought out an eyebrow pencil, so she gave me it to try and it's unreal. It's called niche brow coat. Oh yeah, and it's so thin. I love it. So brows is probably one of the most important things for me. Yeah. SPF, because we're ginger and we're also an old age pensioner, so I don't want to wrinkle anymore. If I'm on a desert island, it's going to be sunny. So I need my SPBF.
I really like this by Terry.
I think it's called, oh, what's it called?
It's like tea to tan or something I can't remember
and it's basically just a bronze serum
and I use that now instead of foundation
because like I said, I'm an old age pensioner
and I just feel like foundation just sinks into my wrinkles.
I hate it. I don't like the feeling on.
It's not comfy.
So I'll do that to just give me my colour
and then I just laid up with concealer
and then powders
and I just think it gives like that nice kind of clean girl
dewy look. I love that.
I love Bert's Bees.
Oh yeah, you love that
I love Burt's B's
lip balm
I've got chronic dry lips
So I love that
You actually do always have lip balm on
Me it's so bad
I don't know what happened
I actually think Carmex
might have really
triggered it
So I was addicted to that stuff
When I was about 13
It's when you put Vaseline
And Carmex
Are apparently the two
That if you keep wearing it
It gives your dry lips
Because there's an ingredient in it
It makes your lips
Need it
Yeah it's wild in it
I know
I can't believe you not said
Fake Tan
Oh I was getting it
getting there. Oh, I was going to say, whoa. I really, and oh, any of these clips are going to
go on social media because my face isn't that isn't that great. Right now, I really love
tannologists new. It's this express, it's a really long, windy name, tanologist, I wish you had
one that was a wee bit shortery name. What is it? It's express, it's extra dark, express,
one hour mousse, and it's this really like, buttery consistency, put it on for one
hour and I wash it off and I'm tanned and I don't ruin my bed sheets. I love that. I love that.
I love it.
The InstaGlove from Tanologist
though is elite instant tan.
Magic Harry Potter himself
concocted that in the dark hearts clad
body makeup.
It's not normal.
I love it and actually really like that on my face as well.
Yeah.
Also that's so good for
see if I've got absolutely no tan on.
Putting that on itself is quite stressful
because it's so thick.
See if you make it with moisturiser.
Yeah.
Love that.
So true.
And you use a little brush as well
just like go over your dry bits
and your hands and feet.
Yeah.
You tan face spray the coconut one.
Oh.
I love that.
I actually put that sometimes
and then I'll put that on underneath my makeup.
And then once, because girls that fake tan out there,
you obviously do your skincare and it slips off your face.
So I think if you put it on underneath your makeup
and then by that night, watch your face off and then you've got...
I've heard the Jamie Genevieve one's meant to be really good.
The TVD one, yeah.
It's really good.
Obviously, I can't see pastile of Paradise, but, you know.
Really good for helping your skin.
Yes, I've heard that, yeah.
Something to do with the CBZ.
Right.
Wow.
Okay, that was interesting.
I love that.
I love seeing what people's makeup bag,
I mean I think we know the answer to this one
but someone has said
are crocs really a thing now
or am I just not down with the kids?
I'll be honest
I don't wear my crocs
as much as what I did when I did first have them
I wear them around the house
and if I'm just knitting out quickly
I'll wear them but you don't have to like everything
so see if you don't think crocs are for you
that's fine hen you are down with the kids
it's just not your style
it's okay however what I will say is
they're so comfy man
and you're really denying yourself a comfort
even if you just take them to get the bins out
I actually didn't buy into the talk thing
I've not got a pair this year
the platform ones for me is
elite I do draw the line
you got those Gucci ones and they're cute
yeah they were rented though
were they yeah rented them
I love that
yeah but they're different
that H-U-R-R-H-R-H-R-H
someone would like to know
a ginger girl
colour palette yes
do you know what by the way
because I there was a lot of things
that I used to say that I couldn't wear
to be fair there's some things that I say that I can't
really wear. I think as long as we avoid orange, I think we're fine because we are orange and
if you're ginger, you don't tan, you've got fake tan on stuff. It means you're orange. I think
orange is the only color that I don't really think we wear that well. But I honestly, like anything
other than that, I think colors pop on us. Yeah, I think, green, right, pink, banging blue,
banging, I love colors on gingers. I like that. It's such a cool contrast. Kaki, yeah, iconic on
ginger. Oh my God, I sound as if I'm being people are like, oh, I can wear any.
colour. Yeah, you can, you can.
But yeah, I think it's such a nice contrast.
We're here. Love that for you.
And last but absolutely
not least, can we talk about the tuna salad?
I'm like, can we?
Why have we not spoken about it already?
Everyone wants to know how,
why, what to do.
I don't know why there is, the...
For anyone that's this and that doesn't know, Jillie.
She's obsessed with John West
tuna salads. In particular,
and this might throw
a look to some people. I really like the
sunflower oil one and I actually think
that is my secret behind it
because I don't use dressing in my tuna salad
I just use the oil from sunflower oil
so I think that gives it that nice taste
and then you just give it a right good mix
you go in Marks and Spencers
you get those nice wee pots
those wee two for three for two pots
and it's like sun dried tomatoes
and like flamed grilled peppers
I love beet root I love pickles
like feta yeah I love feta but not
much on a salads oh I just add all your
favorite bits in the chuna salads. However guys I haven't actually lowered my intake because
the mercury. The mercury is really bad. Yeah you're not supposed to eat a lot of chuna are you?
No I've actually I've put it down to two to a week and it's really difficult. I think it's
what baffles me is you would choose that as like I want to have my favourite meal for my dinner tonight
and you would choose a tuna salad. I know guys see when you said what's your death row meal
I thought I can't go on that podcast and say a chuna salad because I will get absolutely
slaughtered. Yeah you can't. But I'll know. We're not asking you. Love it.
You do, you, hon.
I feel like all the other questions that were asked in we have kind of covered.
Somebody has said how to change from 20s into 30s style without looking too young or too old.
Yeah, do you know what?
I actually really struggled with that.
Like there's some things now that I think, oh, do you know what?
I'm actually a wee bit too old to wear that.
But I think it's nice that you come into like a more mature style.
I remember when I was like younger and I would wear more trendy things than I remember maybe seeing like someone in their late 20s.
I thought, oh, wow, you look so put together.
like you are so classy and elegant.
I think it's just a thing with age
and I think you just need to embrace the fact
that you do get a wee bit older
and it was nice that we could wear those things back in the day
but now we're classy ladies.
Yes.
So I'm going to give you some quick fire this or that questions.
Chinese or chippy?
Chippy.
Ougs or crocs?
Ogs.
Cats or dogs?
Dogs.
Costa or Starbucks?
I've got a difference for each drink that I like there
but I'll just say Costa.
Summer or winter?
Winter.
Oh, no, I take it back summer
Not you said it, is it said it now
She's Miss Christmas
You're getting your fireplace decorated this year
Absolutely, it's Narnia theme
That is an exclusive
Is it? Exclusive on the pod
I'm buzzing
Night in or night out
Oh, night out
Oh, I'm in a wee bit of party girl face right now
But I would usually say night in
Stranger Things or Harry Potter
Harry Potter
Tuna salad or chippy
Tuna salad
Gary Neville or Andy Halliday
Gary Neville
Whoa!
Perfect, well let's wrap up the pod there then
thank you so much, Julie, for coming on the podcast.
We have just loved our little
gingerfinx next to the day.
You've been an absolute icon, babes.
Loved it.
And we won't be back, I'd also support you.
She's having like an anxiety attack in the corner,
too much black coffee.
But yeah, thank you so much.
been a pleasure. And I hope anyone listening has got lots of tips because we're now going
to buy lots of capsule wardrobe items. Yep. I'm going to go and clean out my whole wardrobe
which actually do monthly anyway. And if any girly pops has got any coats or sequins or feathers
that they want to buy, then buy it from Dylan at the end of the life. Oh yeah. And last but not
least, Julie may have a little present for you all. Oh my God, listeners. Listen us.
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I'm obsessed with it but hopefully by the time this podcast goes out
Jillie's new collection will be out or nearly out so yeah we'll let you know and we'll
keep you updated on the Instagram yay yay and thanks so much for listening and we will see you next
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