A Lot On Your Plate - Ep 9: Diary of a Dominatrix

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

This week we find out what it really means to be an online dominatrix, the highs and the lows working in the sex industry and some jaw dropping fetishes that had us squirming in our seats.Strap in and join us on this wild ride of an episode!!- - - - - - - - - -Kiwi & Co Website - Use code PLATE20 for 20% off 😁Kiwi & Co Instagram- - - - - - - - - -Follow us on IG @alotonyourplatepodYour HostsJess (@JustJessFood)Zoe (@ZoeQuinnnn)Produced ByCobalt Creative (@cobaltcreativeuk) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the chart-topic show-topic best podcast in the world We're just kidding, just get it, just get it. This podcast is sponsored by Kiwi and Co, which is an online retailer based in Glasgow and if you've been listening to the last few episodes, you'll know that Jess and I love this brand. we love it and we've got an amazing 20% off code for you all to spank all your money on payday which is plate 20 happy spanking happy Tuesday everyone how are we all I hope you enjoyed last week's episode we had so many feedbacks on the dinner party guest did you see them yeah I love that so much they were have some really weird and wonderful things they're iconic a lot of

the royal family actually which you would have enjoyed princess die yeah that came up quite a lot what you've been up to this week's oz i was away in scotland up at isle of aran the last couple of days with my friends and it was a really relaxing weekend we went to spa we did loads of walking it was your birthday it was my birthday actually yeah turned a big 26 wow we the day finally came what have you been up to i also had a trip around scotland but i think we're going to focus that Conversation a lot more on next week's episode because we have our second guest this week and we are so excited.

So I for one, I possibly will speak on behalf of many people. I'm wildly intrigued by the adult industry, whether that be porn, Only fans, escorting, finessing, prostitution and the BDSM community, if you like. I think it's came onto many people's radars a little more, maybe since Only fans, which is more of a mainstream platform for this kind of line of work, I would say,

where we hear rumours that people can, and crazy amounts of money. I'm talking like tens of thousands of pounds a month by creating things such as custom videos to satisfy people's very peculiar fetishes and weird and wonderful fantasies. So now I have a friend of a friend who is now my friend

that is in this line of work and fuck me, is she a boss bitch? She has intrigued me greatly over the years with some of her stories and achievements by doing this job. I actually held back recently on a holiday I went with her by grilling her on everything to save for this podcast.

But not only is she an online do dominatrix she has been for over five years. She's also a highly intelligent and immensely creative woman who has used a sign of work to great advantage and in recent years has purchased and fully renovated her own house in London. Now I'm not going to blow her trumpet anymore as I'll let her do the talking. So I would like to introduce you to my lovely friend Amelia. Hi Amelia. Hello. How are we? I'm good. Thank you for having me on. Are you excited to be in Glasgow? I am very excited. How did you like your intro there? wonderful

I'd love having smoke blown up my ass so you can carry on so Amelia is actually up this weekend with one of my best friends Holly who is also in the room so you might hear her giggle in the background and they'll take her on her

this is the first time in Scotland second time in Scotland but the first time I ever came I was probably like 10 so I don't remember it really where did you go? I don't know you're not sure

the only thing I can remember is getting sunburned what? That's why I can remember it because it's like who gets sunburned in Scotland That's the only thing I can remember. Well, I went camping when I was like 10.

Oh, okay. It must have been the only hottest day of the year ever. So we have been taking around on the streets of Glasgow tonight, so you may see this. You may not. So, Amelia, let's dive right in. So tell us a little bit about yourself, where are you from and what your hobbies, interest. Just tell us about yourself, please. So originally I'm from the Midlands.

Are you actually? I am, yeah, I'm from Worcestershire. Oh, yeah, so you are. Yeah, so I'm from the West Midlands. Yeah. But I've not lived there since I was like 18. so left home, went to uni, studied fine art, and yeah, I got a degree in fine art. As soon as I did that, I left the country, moved to Bangkok.

Wow. Lived in Bangkok for a few years. What are my hobbies, CrossFit? Yeah. That's probably my main hobby, so that goes down well here. That's probably my only hobby, really. I don't even know what I'd say. Your dog?

It's not really a hobby. Being a dog mum. Okay, well, I'm a dog mum. Yeah, I'm a dog mum. I'm a fur baby. Yeah. Brilliant. So are you able to explain to us and our listeners really what a dominator actually is

and maybe explain the difference between everything I just listed above in the sex industry? Because I know there's probably a bit of confusion. Okay. So I would describe my job title as an online dominatrix and fetish artist. Fab. And what that means is, so online domination, like you can either be like submissive or dominant. And a submissive person essentially likes being told what's to do, like serving somebody else.

Yeah. And the dominant person does the telling, tell somebody what to do, is in charge. And the fetish artist aspect of it, I don't just do the domination stuff just because like some people just have like really niche, like ultimately bizarre fetishes. For example, like sneezing fetish.

Right. Balloon popping fetish. or burping fetish, exactly, burping fetish, yeah, stuff like that, where they're not bothered about me being dominant, they just want to see me do whatever it is that specific random thing that they're into is. Or do you know what, like, there's a, I've got one guy who has got a Levi jeans fetish,

but they've got to have a button-up fly. Right. This is actually really funny. This is like my housemate's favourite thing to listen. so his fetish and we do the same thing every single time his fetish is me pretending to be a man right wearing levi jeans with a button up fly and basically talking about how i'm like gay with him this is beyond me yeah and we'll do that on Skype like my head won't even be on it will just be like a body shot so I'm wearing like a man's shirt and a pair of like Levi 501 button up

fly I never going to be able to look at my Levi's the same ever again and yeah it's just the same thing we've been doing it for years wow it just wants me to talk about like how we're going to like have gay sex people are wailed are they um milya so i want to talk about what i call amelia Amelia. So when we recently went on a holiday, I went with a few Scottish friends. And I kept hearing everybody say, Milia. I was like, it's Amelia. So now I just call Amelia. So if I reference that, that's why. What do you mean? How would you say Amelia? Amelia. Yeah, that's the Scottish pronunciation. Amelia? It's Amelia. Amelia. Yeah, you can't say it. Just missing out the eye. Yeah. So are you able just to let us know how you got into this industry? I'm really

intrigued by this because I actually don't know this. And when you were away, I was like, don't tell me. save it for the pod. Yeah. So I want to everything. So, as I said on the little intro thing, I lived in Bangkok for a few years. And when I was there, I was a teacher. So I was an art teacher and an English teacher. What?

Yeah. That's what I used to do. Oh, no. Shocking. And on the side, much like just Jess food, I was trying to be a food blogger. We actually. Was? I was, yeah.

Yeah. So I had a Instagram account called, I think at the time, It was either foodie vagabond, that was the first one, because it was like travel and food. Yeah. And then I changed it to mindfully milly for a while. Hmm. I rebranded.

Anyway, so I was trying to. And it's hilarious, mindfully milly to know what I do anyway. Completely, totally. Totally not my floor. And basically, mostly food, but also like, you know, the odd bikini pick on the beach. I was living in Thailand. So obviously that was kind of an aspect of it.

And along with the people who were, were following me for my like vegan recipes were the Instagram perves and yeah and every now and then actually to be honest quite regularly I would get like an Instagram perv in the DMs just sending an unslisted dick pick back when it was not illegal times have changed and and I would usually just like block them right because like I don't want to see you're unsolicited dick pics. Yeah, absolutely. But one day, this guy sent me a message saying like,

hi, can I send you a picture? And I replied being like, well, if it's a dick pick, no, you can't. He's like, I just want to send you a really funny picture that's going to make you laugh. And I was like, okay, fine, you can send me a picture. So he sends me a picture and it is a dick pick, but he had a micro penis. like literally like medically the size of like half my little finger

and I was like why would you send me that or what the hell is wrong with you and he was like what do you mean do you think it's small and I was like well yeah obviously like clearly it's very small he was like oh my ex-girlfriend said it was small but I didn't know whether she was just lying so I just thought I'd like send it to you and see what you were saying

and it was just so obvious to me that like this was turning him on that people were saying how small his willy was yeah but he sent it to me because like he wanted me to say that it was small and he was getting turned on by it and I was just like how fucking dare you how dare you like get off over this

and I get nothing in return so anyway I basically just said in like a moment of annoyance like if you're getting off on this you should be fucking paying me and he replied saying, I'll pay you. What? So I wasn't, I didn't actually think that he would pay me.

I wasn't like gunning to get paid. I was just like, how rude, basically? And he was like, yeah, I'll pay you. I was like, what do you, like, how? And he was like, an Amazon gift card. Do you have an Amazon account? I was like, I do, yeah. So I sent him my email address.

And I can like vividly remember it as well. I was like in the airport in Co-Pee, like just about to go on like a diving, like learning to dive holiday. I was just there in the airport, like, texting my friends like, oh my God, some guy has just sent me a tiny little dick pick and he's like, sent me an Amazon gift card just for me to, like, text back. How much was it?

Only 15 pounds. I think it was like 200 quid on so. No, no. It was very humble beginnings. But getting like 15 quid, that's quite a lot in Thailand. You can like dine out at like an expensive restaurant, probably like three times for that. Yeah. So I was well chuffed.

All I had to do was literally just text him like, you've got a tiny dick, ha, ha, ha. And were you kind of just testing the water with that one at the start? And then he'd done it? I mean, he came to me, do you know what I mean? I wasn't even like I was out there looking for it. It was just like this person just came to me

with his tiny penis and wanted to give me money. So I was like, cool, this is sweet. And he would text me every single weekend, like every Saturday, when he was clearly when he was drunk and he was in America and I was in Thailand so like the timings worked out quite well right he would be I guess like drunk in the night whilst I was awake during the day and so over the course of like six months or so he um the amount of money that he would send like got up and up and up not not by loads of starting getting probably

between like 30 and 50 pounds but it was 30 to 50 pounds for like 15 to 20 minutes of just texting him back and forth saying like you're a loser. you've got a tiny tick. No one's ever going to fuck you. He's going to be a virgin forever. Just like, that kind of thing. And progressively, over the course of like six months or so,

he would like drip feed me, you know, things that clearly he wanted me to say or do. And so we got to about, this happened in maybe July. And in January, I'd move back to the UK because I was like set on working in advertising. I thought that's what I wanted to do. So I'd move to the UK, I'd like got a job in

London and I was absolutely like broke as hell. I was on 19K the year in 2017, in London, living in squalor. Living in a guardianship, I don't know whether you know what that is. It's where like you're basically a guardian for like a flat that if you aren't in there squatters will move in. Oh my God. It was horrendous. And so I was like, you know, very grateful for this, like, extra bit of, like, you know, money on the side. Anyway, so he says to me in about January of 2017, you're not going to post that photo on Twitter, are you mistress? And I was like, I guess he wants me to post that photo on Twitter. And I did have a Twitter account, but, like, I don't think that, like, my school friends and family members wanted to see a photo of this man's tiny little penis.

so I thought right I have to make myself a new Twitter so I made a new Twitter and I'd already kind of got a stage name that my friends essentially had given me because they found the whole thing so hilarious and obviously we're not saying what my stage name is on the pod just because I'm not so many like mutuals whatever but so I just set it up with that name and posted like a photo of me in a corset

as the like profile picture and then on my timeline and just posted this photos of this guy's tiny penis and just was like ha ha ha look how small this guy's penis is hashtag small penis humiliation and just in case anybody isn't aware Twitter is pretty much adult friendly

so of all the social media platforms it's the only one where you can just like you can't post anything you want but you can post porn you can post nudity and stuff like that so that's the reason why that's like the the adult industry social media platform so yeah as soon as i did that the dm's just got flooded man everybody wanted their tiny penis humiliated wow and as soon as i like dip dived into

twitter it was like oh my god there is a whole gold mine out here there's a whole like fetish world so many different fetishes that like i'd never heard of very quickly learned about findom which I don't know whether you guys have heard of. It stands for financial domination. Right. Which is basically like guys want to give you money. Like that is what their fetish is. Like you just demanding money from them and being like,

you're going to fucking pay for this. You're going to say home this weekend. I'm in the wrong job. So, yeah. I mean, obviously I like that one. I was like, that's a fetish for me. Yeah. And just like all the other different things.

And within... So I got on Twitter in January. I started my new job in London in February and I quit my job in April. What? Yeah. So I quit my job in April because I was making more

like in the evenings of weekends than I was... I mean, obviously it was only on 90K, yeah, so it's not really that hard. But like, yeah. I was making more just like hustling on the side. And the person I was like in a relationship with at the time was very much like,

just quit your job, just like see where it goes. If it, if it doesn't work out, get another job, doesn't matter. But it did work out. And here we are. And here we are. Yeah, five and a half years later. So does this sort of job role make you feel empowered as a woman? It does, yeah.

And like, it has opened my eyes so, so, so much. And I don't really, I don't think that I was ever like a narrow-minded, judgmental person. I don't think I ever would have described myself as that. but it's definitely made me way more open-minded and way more like understanding of just all sorts of stuff really because you speak to so many people every single day and also obviously it's nice just like working for myself and yeah absolutely interesting so I just want to be clear then

are you able to explain and the difference did we go do this bit oh I probably went off on a massive tangents the difference between what I do Yeah, I want to, because obviously dominatrix might be a new word to a lot of people listening. But can you explain the difference between the adult industry and the, I don't really know the right terminology? I mean, there's no difference between. Like, for example, you don't have sex with them. I don't, no, no, no, no. So, so let's say that the adult industry is the umbrella term for anything that is to do with anything adult.

Porn, escorting, full service sex workers, which means like prostitution. Yeah. I primarily work online. Not exclusively. I do sometimes meet people in real life, but the majority of what I do is online. So I just call myself like an online dominatrix. Yeah.

As I said, fetish artist. And the majority of what I do is like creating content and communicating with people online. Okay. So I can't really say what the difference is between what I do and then every other like little thing underneath the umbrella term. Does that make sense? There's so many different roles.

yeah within it it's like a whole world that yeah I'm just so I just think people assume that anything adult involves actually having sex people but it just really doesn't no I don't even get naked wow yeah and not that there's like

not that I have anything against anyone that does and I think like you know free the nipple and all that but just like where the the route that I went down it was very much like part of that brand was like you're a loser you'll never see me naked Yeah, sort of that element of control

Yeah, and like denying them So yeah, that's kind of like The niche subsection of the adult industry That I'm working in And how do clients find you? I know obviously you can't disclose your name But like how do you even begin If let's say I had this mad fetish

Like where the hell would I go? I just think Onlyfans But like that's probably not even Dominatrix world Is it really? I don't know, I have no idea. I do have Only fans And like most pretty much anyone who creates content that is within the adult realm

will have an only fan's account but there's so many different platforms like that that I guess you'd call them like middle men platforms. Obviously Twitter is the social media platform that's like the number one place that you'll find Really? I had no idea. Yeah and they've made it much more difficult in like over the years to find people because of shadow banning I don't know if you could have heard that because they do it on Instagram as well

that that would be the main like social media platform that you'd find stuff but then all the different adult platforms you've obviously got only fans you've got clips for sale many vids night flirt I want clips Seeking arrangements is that one Seeking arrangement is more for sugar sugaring like sugar babies and like I mean technically you're not supposed to escort on there but people do use it for that yeah

you wouldn't really use that for online stuff no just because that's like setting up like arrangements. Yeah. Sugar baby arrangements, basically. I see. But that's like when you get the images on Instagram.

Are they genuine though? No. But some might be. But sometimes they are. So like if you get somebody in your DMs on Instagram that says, hi baby,

I want to be your sugar daddy. I'm going to give you £5,000 every single day. Like we can sort out an arrangement. That is bullshit. No one's going to give you 5,000 pounds every single day.

But if somebody messages you like, can I have a picture of your feet? I'll send you like 50 quid or whatever they're probably legit yeah wow cash rich get in touch it

and what's a typical working week like for you is it lonely or you're really busy all the time I am like as busy as I want to be at this point I would say I feel overwhelmed by the amount of stuff that I have to do it's like really well yeah I would say yeah

so you wake up at what time and when you what time me at your desk. Do you know what? It really changes day to day because like I'm a huge procrastinator and like I'm terribly unorganized. But on a good, let's say it's a good week. It's a good week where like my head straight and I'm being really good. I go to the gym in the morning. So like I'll get up at like between 5 and 6 a.m. walk the dog. Go to crossfoot. Be at my desk between like nine and 10 a.m. And then like depending on what day it is, it could be a content creation day. To be honest, actually Jess, it's probably in some ways fairly similar to being an influencer.

Yeah. That's what I was just thinking there, yeah. It really is. It's just like an influencer in the kind of like adulty, porn-y sphere. So yeah, you have a day where like you shoot all your content. So set up all your lights and like sometimes I do stuff on the green screen. So you like set the whole studio up. And is that all in your house?

Yeah, I've got a little kind of studio room in the house. Wow. And what do you put on this green screen? What do I put on it? Yeah, like what do you edit? So actually, I don't really do my editing anymore. Okay.

I outsource that now just because I don't have the time. Yeah. Gee's like, do you need any help? It really depends, but like there's a, there's a big, like, fetish for what, what you'd call, like, mesmerize or hypno video. So it's just, like, trippy, kind of like, you're on acid kind of vibe. So, like, the background will be all swirly and there'll be, like, multiples of me and all, like, different effects and stuff. Wow. I'm absolutely fascinated.

And I think you saw a little snippet of one of my video, didn't you? I did, I did, yes. And that's all shot on a green screen, obviously. It was very creative. It was like a mini movie. I did edit that one, by the way. Yeah, you know, you're saying it actually. Because me and Holly, who's in this room now we were watching it,

we were like, wow, she's so creative. But it really wasn't very, like, sexual. It was just you in strange outfits. And it was a whole movie? What was it? What was it? What was it? Was it Stranger Things or something like that?

Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters, that was it. Funnily enough, Stranger Things is what I'm going to do this year. So, yeah, strange things. Zoe will be watching that, you love to. And I'm like saying that on. So I know obviously you do primarily online, but previously you have done a few, I would say,

outsourcing roles. But is that what you call it? Real life. Real life, okay. How do you feel safe in this sort of world or any of your friends that are probably in this sort of industry that do do that? How do they feel safe?

It's like a safe word or... Safe words is a thing. Yeah, if you're maybe hurting. them too much is that is that what it is a thing yeah yeah so like the the universal safe word is red what so you just say the word red like if like things are getting too so if you're crushing someone's fingertips which they love red red red red red yeah and they right or pineapples the other one they're the two universal safe words yeah funny isn't it pineapple I'm learning so much so because like red amber green so if like something's like pushing the boundaries a bit too

much they might be like amber which is like pineapple no pineapple's red Pineapples, like, stop. Ooh, okay. Right. So, okay, going back to the other sort of safe then, if you were... Vetsing people, essentially, what you're asking, I suppose. My safety. Yes.

Yeah, because really, like, red is for the submissive. Yeah. I would never really be saying that. Let's say they did something that they were then trying to attack you or something. I don't know. You never know of these people. Never happened to me, thankfully. And I think that it does happen far less than people think.

And I have to say that, like, the way that a lot of TV shows, obviously just because like it makes great TV kind of making out like it's so scary it's so dangerous it's so dramatic like ultimately it's not that dangerous it's not that dramatic of course there are instances and it is you know not a hundred percent safe but then like neither is dating neither is being in a relationship yeah I think like tv shows like to glamourise how like dangerous it is um but there are ways of like safeguarding yourself so I guess one thing we would be like asking for references. That's something that I do if I'm going to meet somebody.

I'm like, have you ever met anybody before? I see. Okay. And, you know, the industry looks out for each other. So if somebody messaged me and said, like, oh, have you met so and so before? I'd say like, oh, yeah, he was perfectly fine. He was respectful. La, la, la.

And likewise, people are always willing to do that for you as well. Right. And if they haven't met anyone before, my thing would be, okay, I need a copy of your passport then, or your driving license. Okay. So I just kind of feel like that covers me. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Like if they are going to... Then they're real. Yeah. But I've never had a bad experience. And I know that for people who are like more in the escorting, like, end of things, there's actually a website. And I don't know whether I'm going to say the name of it just because, like, I don't know if...

It's like known within the escorting community. But it's like, they don't really... They don't really want the punters to know about it and say. Yeah. So basically, you can type in. a phone number and anyone who has met that person will write a report. Right, that's good. Yeah.

Yeah, it's good. And the punters don't know about it and I'm not going to say the name of it so they'll find out. So yeah, that that's like a really good way. And like I've got a friend, obviously, you know, I've got a really good friend who's an escort and that's what she uses. And every time anybody contacts her, she just types in and just types in their number and you'll see like sometimes no report, sometimes. It's like an Uber rating, isn't it? It is, yes. It is.

Trip advisor. Yeah. Trip advisor for the adult industry, yeah. I love that. I wanted to ask you that, like, if there's a community. But, so there kind of is then, where, like, loads of people know of loads of other people that do the same thing and all chat about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

End of the day, so you've done your day of editing on filming, you just shut your laptop and then can you just switch off? Or is your phone ping, ping, pinging? How does it work? Went to more time can they contact you? Obviously, I've got a work phone and a normal phone because, like, if you, you, you, For me, I definitely know that there are people who just like never switch off from it

and they just like always on their phone but like I just can't do that like mentally. Yeah. So like at the end of work time my phone is going off or my phone's going on airplane mode. Also by the way, so I feel like I didn't really finish that, there's content creation days

and then there's interacting with your fans days. Okay. So like doing loads of Skype or like webcam or phone or... But surely a lot of that would be in the evenings I don't want to work the evenings mostly What do you mean As you don't need to work the evenings

Because you've got enough Exactly back in the day When I was like Let's say a baby dom When I was like kind of new I would just work and work And work like 14 hours a day If not more

I'd work until 3am I had like No work life balance And like no ability To say no to things Just because like I think when you're like New to something

You feel like if you say no, the opportunity is going to go and there's not going to be any more money. And you're not going to like, you're going to lose out. Yeah. But number one, the longer you're in the industry, the more you realize actually that's just not the case. Like, it will always come back to you.

The amount of fans you have, you just accumulate. Yeah. So like, there's kind of always the possibility to like make money and work. But also just like listening to podcasts and like reading books on like being an entrepreneur and being like a business person. and I've just more learned about the fact that you have to have boundaries and you have to like give yourself time off. Yeah.

To be honest, like even though I have a lot of time off now, I still constantly feel guilty and I think that's just like I think that's just working with yourself to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I feel the exact same. Going down more to you on a sort of personal level.

Has this affected your opinion on men and relationships? How do your boyfriends or if you have a boyfriend, how do they feel about this? it has a hundred percent affected how I feel about men and definitely has affected like the way that dating is for me and the way that relationships are. So I guess like it's difficult to have like as much of a high opinion of men when you speak to men like a piece of shit.

Well, it's not even just that. It's just like they're all married and are like cheating on their wives essentially so many guys have like a fetish for basically like you slagging off their wife like that is what they want you to do they want you to be like oh my yeah imagine that yeah they basically want you to say like oh like your wife's ugly compared to me I know fucking hell and like I've got a lot of friends who are in the adult industry who aren't you know necessarily doing what I do and they're just full on cheating on their wife

they'll have like a sugar baby on the side of having a wife and it's just like and do you know what I try not to judge them and I think I I think it has also like opened my eyes more to to just how sexuality works in general and the you can be a hundred percent in love with your wife and want to have sex with somebody else like the two things just aren't mutually exclusive like it's not like if you cheat on your wife then you don't love her it just doesn't work like that you can 100% be in love with your wife, but you just want to have sex with other people as well. You're like, what?

You're all like that. Please don't tell us the truth. Yeah. Sorry guys. Truth bomb. Yeah. We say no more. Okay.

Did you find it hard meeting guys then? I don't find it hard meeting them, but I do find it like more difficult dating as somebody who works in the adult industry. And obviously, as I kind of joked about with you before we went on the pod, I was like, I am well prepared for this, Jess, because this is just like every day I ever go on.

As soon as they find out what I do for a living, it is just an interview about my job for like as long as the date goes on until they can like notice that I'm just like, okay, I'm done with this now. I'm done with being interrogated by you. Wow. And obviously with this, it's different. Yeah, of course.

This is a podcast and I'm completely happy to do that. But like on a date, it's like, you know, there's more to me than my job. Like this is what I do to make money. And I get that it's interesting. of course it is. Yeah. But like there's so much more to me than just like being an online dominatrix. I'm like having a weird profession.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you find that it like puts people off in terms of it being like intimidating? Yes, totally. Yeah. I think just in general guys have said to me like numerous times you're an intimidating woman. I think you are.

I agree as well. But I actually find you amazing. Thank you so much. Do you know what I mean? Like you when you're looking in a room, you're like, wow. Yeah, but that we find you like fascinating. Yeah. Whereas I think people who are like, what's the word, like, self-conscious and whatever, would then find it intimidating.

But that's like a then problem. I think also as well, like, there is definitely a massive hypocrisy with, like, the way that men view women who work in the adult industry. Yeah. And I personally think to myself, like, why is it okay that you wank over porn, but it's not okay that I make money from it? Like, what exactly is, like, the moral thing here? I'm not really getting how that's okay. If anything, like, it's worse that you're wanking over it than it is that I'm, like, taking money from men for doing it. But anyway, you know, whatever.

So, I need to understand, like, it's probably a lot of people will be interested to know this. Obviously, you go on this date with this guy and he's thinking, wow, like, let's see you hit it off really well. Are they expecting you to behave? Are you two different people, essentially? Are you, obviously, you're acting? But do you know what I mean? Are they expecting you to behave that way with them? Do you behave differently?

If anybody, do you know what? There has definitely been occasions where like I've had people on the, like, you know, on the app when they say like, oh, so what do you do for a living? I'm like, oh, actually like, you know, put your open-minded cap on because I've got a bit of a weird job. Like I'm an online dominatrix. There's been people who have been like, oh my God, really?

I'm really into that. Oh. And I'm like, um, yeah, like, sorry, but like I'm not looking to continue the work day once the work day's over. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And like, I'm very open-minded sexually and, like, in a relationship would be, like, I'm pretty, you know, open-minded, experimental and whatever.

But I'm definitely not looking to date somebody who is, like, primarily submissive and just wants me to, like, be their dominatrix. Like, no, that wouldn't work for me. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like this kind of thing where, like, if it just, like, can, if, you know, I don't know why switching it up? Like, if it's just something that just, like, happened, that would be fun and fine.

but I don't want that to be like a dynamic where like I am the dominatrix. Yeah, because a lot of role playing that people like in their relationship isn't there so let's say it came to that then fine. Yeah, exactly. But you'd be very good at it. Yeah, 100%.

Like I can switch it up. Like I'm happy to be in either role. But like I don't want to like just be a dominatrix at home at the time. Yeah, well you don't want them to be with you for that reason. Oh no, 100% not. No, no, no. The best reaction that I can get from somebody is just being like, oh, that's cool.

yeah and just like not to be honest not really probing me that much that if somebody doesn't probe me that much and they're just like oh that's cool that's interesting and then they don't ask me like a gazillion questions and the one thing that really pisses me off as well when I go on dates is like so is that what you're into like what are you into sexually instantly yeah that really annoys me yeah because you wouldn't if I'd said like oh you know I work in PR then would be like oh yeah so like what are your kinks you wouldn't they just wouldn't ask that but as soon as they know that I work in the adult industry it's like, okay, all boundaries go down.

Like, I'll ask you anything. So does your family know? They do know, yeah. They do. What are their thoughts on it? So my dad, when I texted, I texted my dad to tell him, and he just sent me a text back saying, lo, that's funny, Mill, like, ha, ha, ha.

And I think he said something like, so his wife's called Allison, he was like, Alison asked whether there's a market for like over 50s in roll neck jumpers. I'm like, probably, there's a market for everything. He just found it funny. My mum, I mean, as I've spoken to you a bit about Jess, she's a bit of a complicated person. Yeah. So she's got like issues with it, but she's got issues with everything.

So she's just her. But they understand and they just, if you say I'm at work, they know exactly what's happening. Definitely not, no. They don't know exactly what's happening, no. Of course, I suppose no one really would, would they? But they know that that's your work, though? They know that I am a quote-unquote online dominatrix. I don't think any of them have a clue what that actually means.

They wouldn't know what it entails. None of them have ever probed me or asked. Clearly, they just don't really want to know. Whenever I go to like family gatherings of extended family, you know, it's like nobody asks me about work. Clearly, like it's been passed around the family. Yeah. Don't do you feel like.

I like, online dominatrix. Shit. If it was like that's in the table, where I'd be like, tell me everything. Yeah, nobody asked, literally nobody. It's like, how's the dog? So it's like an unspoken, just everyone knows, but nobody probes. And did it take you a while to tell them, or did you do it quite quick?

I told my sister and my mum and co pretty quickly, and I took a while to tell my dad. Yeah. And it's funny because actually he was the one that had the best reaction of everybody. He was the one that was just like, lo, that's funny, as long as you're happy, I'm happy. Yeah. And then everyone else was a bit more like, oh, I don't know about this,

Amelia, like, are you sure that this is what you want to do? Like, a bit more judgy, a bit more judgy vibes from the, from the women of the family. So just talking quickly, going back to like the roll neck jumper thing, you said there's a fetish for everything. Let's get into the nitty gritty of it. Tell us some wild requests that you've had over the years and I'm aware that you have a slave. Are you able to... I don't have a slave anymore.

Sorry, the slave that we know about, hit the specific slave. He's no longer, The slave. My slave. But he's still a slave to someone. Because you might watch this. Don't think you're my slave.

Slave. You're just my PA now. So can you obviously explain like a slave's quite a, a well-known thing in the industry. Can you explain what that is? Obviously, it's, they want to be a slave. No, I don't even want to be there. No, I'm joking.

I definitely do want to be there. So, yeah, so for like a year or so, I had like a full time, literally did whatever the fuck I said, slave. Slave. And he paid you. And he paid me to be my slave, yeah. So he would, yeah, he'd pay me like a grand a month.

This is fully consensual, by the way, isn't it? Fully consensual, fully consensual. And he would like clean my house, show fur me around everywhere, pick up my shopping for me. like he'd pick up me and my friends take us on nights out he's met my family even he drove me home for Christmas

yeah I can't remember I think of 2018 maybe he drove me home yeah my whole family What is the most wildest thing that he that you have done with him Do you know what he wasn't that wild He was more of like

So he had a hands fetish He had a fetish for hands So like he just wanted to like massage my hands That was the main thing but I would also dress him up in like a sissy maids outfit so he would like wear like a little sissy maids outfit

and like clean the house but you got me spank him and still while he was cleaning yeah and I'd make him like twerk I was actually I think when we were on holiday I think Charlotte was telling you

that like when I came back so I had a boob job came back from the hospital and I was like all doped up on morphine and like just thought it was like so hilarious and I was in the garden I was like be my footstool and he like went on all fours and I just like put my feet on him like that

I was like right now sing spice girls to me and he was just there on all fours like with my feet on his back like going if you want to be my lover and then he paid you and then he just paid me every month I actually know actually I think I actually had his debit card in my purse I just spend better that's brilliant that's so funny

looking for a new slave? Yep, yeah. You know, apply within anyone who wants to be my slave. So let's tell us then. Tell us some requests over the years. So I've got like a very, a guy who has ordered a few custom videos off me. And his fetish is,

this is a green screen one actually. This is one, I shoot on the greenswits. It's like a bit trippy and weird. And basically at the start of the video, I tell him to take a magic pill and I'll like... So all my videos, by the way, a POV which means that like the camera

is the viewer and I talk to the viewer as if like they're in the room with me kind of thing and like... Order them to do things like I'm actually speaking

to whoever it is. So I say to him take this magic pill like I promise like something great's gonna happen when you take it presumably whoever it is that's watching it

does take a pill at home I don't know and then it transcends into like this like mad you know weird trippy bizarre video where essentially I'm like I just tricked you into taking a hallucinogenic and also a very strong laxative and then the rest of the video is basically like me just going you're going to get diarrhea really bad diarrhea just like over and over and over again, just building up and up and up and up, until presumably he does in fact shit himself. All I can assume is that this guy is sat at home watching this video actually

takes a lactative and, I don't know, maybe some mushrooms or some acid or something, and shits himself whilst wanking. Yeah, so that's a funny one. And then I had a guy, I had a guy on Cam one. This was probably one of my favorite cam sessions ever because it made me quite a lot of dollar where he came into my cam room and he was like, can you put your rate up? So I've already got quite an expensive rate.

I charge like six poundish a minute. Oh wow. Put your rate up. So I put my rate up to, I think I put it to 200 pound a minute. And he came back in and like he was like, can he send me like a, what's it called? Like a view my cam request or whatever. So I sent him a request to view his cam.

And he came on webcam and he was like, there naked on a chair with like plastic sheeting all over the floor. He's like, I've got custard here and bait beans and like all these different things. What do you want me to do with them? I was like, pour the baked beans all over your head. So he's just like pouring stuff all over him. So whilst wanking. I'm paying £200 a minute for me to just watch him.

Pour like custard and shit all over. himself and yeah I made two grams in 10 minutes yeah oh my lord you lord wow that's a good one couple more couple more um I've seen many a person eat feces no yes yes their own their own that's gonna be an overshare also mine oh someone has someone has someone who paid me two shit in a box posted to them I didn't even post it to them

like I met him I met him in person gave it to him I didn't want to watch him eat it I was gonna fuck bad my heart is racing out of I would actually

puk but he sent me a video of himself in a park in London eating it with a spruce no no no

no yeah yeah Seriously. That is not getting cut out of the pod. So there is a thing called a cash point meet and I've done numerous of these. Probably the best one I ever did

was at Kings Cross Station because obviously it was so public. And so yeah, it's called a cash point meet and the premise is literally you meet a man at a cash point and he withdraws money from his account and he gives it to you and basically that's it

but I mean you'll obviously add in some elements of humiliation and you'll just be like ha ha ha you're a fucking pay pig kiss my shoes and they will literally like kiss your boots in public spit in their face kick him in the balls so yeah there was one that was probably

like the most iconic one I did that was at Kings Cross Station obviously which is really busy and there was like a crowd of people and this guy's literally like on his knees on the floor being like, please mistress, like, take my money and I like kicked him in the balls and he's like riffing around on the floor

and I can see people like filming it because obviously people think like what the hell is going on. Yeah, yeah. I think I got about £500 for that. Imagine if we ever see anyone in the street now spitting in something, you'd be like, oh, don't worry, he's just a pay pig. Yeah. He's fine.

He wants it, he's enjoying it. Shit. That's wild. Yeah. Tell us what's your best and worst part of this job? What do you enjoy doing the most and what do you hate doing the most as well? So the best part is like getting to be creative. And I've kind of always said like I feel like I came full circle.

Because obviously I went to uni instead of fine art. And what I actually did at uni was I made weird videos. Like that was what my artistic practice was. I was like a performance and video artist. And then I went kind of like off to Thailand and I was teaching. and I wasn't really, I didn't really feel like I was using my degree as much as like I was an art teacher. I wasn't doing like what I was passionate about, which is like doing weird stuff on camera. So it was really nice that then like I guess three years later it came full circle and now I get to be on camera again and I get to like be a character and act and like do weird things and like create my weird ideas.

Yeah. So that's definitely like the best aspect of it because it's just, it's a form of art, definitely. But when I say my fetish artist, like you said, like the video that you saw, my like Ghostbusters cosplay like I just love doing stuff like that I get like obsessed with it and I'll like forget to eat and sleep and I'll just be there just like squirrelling away like working at it you know what I mean you get so obsessed with it yeah and also do you know what like just the communications with with the customers isn't always the best thing but sometimes it is like it is really funny it is enjoyable and like on the most part I think because like all the guys

I speak to a submissive like they're pretty respectful and they're like nice to speak to I don't have to deal with that many dickheads. Yeah. So that's good. And then the worst thing, which is not so much to do with like the day to day, like what the job is, more just to do with, is basically just the restrictions that are put on you

just because you work in the adult industry. That is 100% the worst thing. So for example, my Twitter got shut down for violating the rules. They wouldn't specify what that meant, no idea what it was. So it was like 13,000 followers that I'd built up over a few years just gone poof like that my whole following couldn't get it back shadow banning means it's really difficult now to like grow a following compared to how it used to be massacard and visa

put insane restrictions on what you are allowed to have in pornography which is like the most ridiculous thing in the world so say for example you can go to the cinema or you can play like a game a kid can play a bloody video game that's got guns violence all that kind of stuff whatever I can't have a toy gun in a video. That is absolutely banned. You can't have a glass of wine in a video. That is banned. There's so much stuff that is not allowed in adult content

that is specifically for adults that is allowed for like in 12A movies. That's wild. Completely wild. It doesn't make any sense. But it's just like a conservative American anti-adult industry, anti-porn, just policy that MasterCard and V. are brought in kind of gradually over the last few years. And it comes with the credit card companies.

Yeah. So the credit card companies will withdraw the ability to use them as a payment processor if you don't abide by their rules. So I don't know whether you guys will remember when Pornhub deleted a shitload of content. No. It was actually mainstream news. Definitely not. It was really mainstream news.

Basically, like they obviously had this policy where like anyone could upload whatever the hell they wanted to porn hub like you could and that that was really bad don't get me wrong that was 100% bad porn hub should have been policing what was being uploaded because there was child porn on there yeah there was revenge porn on there there was like so much um pirating so that's like a big problem in the industry as well that people will just like rip all your content and upload it for free everywhere they weren't policing it at all you would you could send them a set thing saying like you know I didn't say that this content could be up here and they just wouldn't take it to down because they didn't care, they were getting paid. And then MasterCard and Visa basically said,

like, that's it, we're pulling you. And they pulled the plug. So, and still now to this day, Pornhub have no way of taking payments. So you cannot be like, unless you're paying with crypto, you can't pay for anything on Pornhub anymore. And so no other platform wanted that to happen. So everybody just abided by their rules. They brought in these really like stringent rules about like you I mean some of it is good I think the fact that you now have to like upload a copy of somebody's passport and all that kind of stuff to make sure they are of age

and la la la all that stuff's good but then the other things it's just too much like you can't have the word hypnosis in a video there's just so much stuff that you're not allowed to do it just takes it overboard it's like overkill in terms of like censoring the adult industry and I mentioned as well like to you Jess

that like the banking industry I guess it's all that just the finance industry are just so anti-adult. I had a limited, I have a limited company and I had a business bank account. When I applied for the bank account, I was just like kind of vague, which I didn't lie. I just said, like, oh, I'm a video content creator. And then a year in, they were like, oh, can we have some more information about your business? Can you send us like your website and like who your clients are, et cetera and so forth? So I was like, oh, yeah, sure.

I know that there's nothing that I do that is illegal. Everything that I do is above board. And I sent them, you know, like some examples of what, like, my websites and things like that. And they were like, we can no longer offer you an account. We're showing your account on you have 30 days to remove the money. And then when I researched it, there is literally no high street bank that will knowingly give anyone in the adult industry a bank account. And like, I'm constantly at risk for even my current account just being shut down like that. And there's nothing illegal about it.

It's just like a moral thing. Like, it's immoral to let the adult industry workers, like, have bank accounts, which is just insanely hypocritical because, let's be honest, like all the wanker bankers are like fucking prostitutes and in the strip clubs every fucking weekend. Million per cent. Was it hard for you to get a mortgage? It actually wasn't, no. It was, like, surprisingly easy.

I think a lot of people are like, you know, like if you work in that kind of thing, you're not paying taxes like I do pay my taxes I pay a lot of taxes just FYI just like anybody else who's self-employed yeah if you're a sole trader like if you're paying taxes and you're showing a certain amount of income then you can get a decent mortgage so yeah I didn't have any problems at all actually got a very good rate um has it affected like your own body image being on camera all the time like are you quite hard on your shelf or you just Do you know what I already was? I don't think it's really changed it.

I think I was already that kind of person where I'm incredibly self-critical and like just an anxious kind of personality type that's constantly in my own head thinking like... What's our sign are you? Capricorn. I'm not sure whether it's a Capricorn thing. Because people probably assume that you're just so confident

and like don't care about all that stuff but it's the same way. It's weird, you know, it's kind of like there's just two parts of my personality where I am. Yeah. Like one part of me is like that Bart Simpson's meme where he's like banging a pan being like, I am so great.

I am so great. That is me half the time. And the last time I'm like, I'm such a failure in every single way. The only time that, do you know what, earlier this year, when I actually had put on a bit of Christmas way, somebody sent me a really nasty email. And nothing ever in the past has really bothered me. Like people just send like stupid things like. Somebody once sent me a message being like, your forehead's massive.

I was like, I don't think it is that massive. It's really not. I'm like, okay, cheers, bro. But somebody sent me an email when I actually had put on a bit of weight and I just wasn't feeling that great, basically just this long email about how fat I was. He's like a customer. He actually was a customer.

And you know what was hilarious? He maybe two weeks previous had sent me an email gushing about how amazing I was and like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then clearly I hadn't replied to him fast enough. so he just turned into a salty little bitch and then sent me an email about like you're just so fat and like nobody wants to look at you because you're just an absolutely

wail or whatever and I was just like fuck you but also it did actually yeah of course that was the first time ever I think that it's actually like made me sad and made me feel like oh my god I also have put a bit of weight so at that time I've lost weight since then yeah

now I'm great now I am on fleek yeah. What would your advice be for anyone wanting to get into the industry? Research. Do your research. When I was like new, one of the things that I did was I actually spent, not loads of money, but I spent money buying videos or like joining Onyfan's accounts because I was, at the

beginning I was just like, what the hell? What are they doing? You don't know. Do you know what I mean? Yes, you kind of acted like a client at the start. Exactly, so that I could see, like, what exactly it was that people were saying and doing. You just need to research. It's the same as anything, really.

And if you can find somebody who would be willing to mentor you, I guess that would be good. But equally, I don't know how easy that would be, just because essentially they'd be training you up to be their competition. So you don't have an agent or anything like that? No, there's no agent. Because I was listening to a podcast actually recently with that Julia Fox. And she was saying that, because she worked in the dungeon. so she was doing it in real life and she did say, remember to tip

because they take all your money. Well, a lot of the money. Yeah, she was like they take a lot and then they just tip. Obviously this was in America so I don't know the difference or wherever she worked. Yeah, yeah.

I just never really thought of it like that because I guess when you do work for someone or a pimp, they would take a lot. But if they tips you, would you keep it for yourself? Would you have to give it to the pimp or the dungeon? Well, I think that there's a difference between the way that things work in America

and the UK. because America has like much stricter laws about the adult industry. So prostitution is literally illegal there. If you are a prostitute and they know you are and they catch you doing it, they will send you to prison. Really? Yeah. Whereas in the UK, it's not, it's not, it's not.

Is it just the UK or is it just England and Wales? No, the UK. Is it Scotland? As far as I'm aware, it's decriminalised. So you are allowed. to sell sex for money but you're not allowed to solicit for sex what does that mean essentially advertise okay so like you couldn't be on this side of the street with a like a board over you like hi pick me up yeah that that that would be soliciting and that's illegal and what else is illegal

brothels are illegal what's the difference between a brothel and a strip club so technically in a strip club nothing sexual touching wise is supposed to happen in exchange for money and as far as I know like if the owner of a strip club finds out that you if you work there as a stripper are let's say giving hand jobs or blowjubs or whatever for extra they wouldn't be happy about that so I was just really like dances yeah it should be yeah dancing and stripping so like there's not just rooms there where you can where you're supposed to like go off and have sex whereas a brothel would literally be like a man comes in and pays to have sex with somebody interesting um here's one point Have you ever had any women request anything?

I'm speaking, asking for a friend. Do you know what? I don't think that I have, but I have had men pretending to be women. Right, okay. I mean, obviously, I can't know for sure that that is the case. But, you know, you just kind of tell

when it's like a guy just pretending that he's a woman. Yeah. Like trying to, like, that's his fantasy that he's like really a woman and, like, wants you to talk to him like he's actually a woman. Okay.

But no, on the most part, I kind of feel like women make money from the adult industry and men spend money on the adult industry. Yeah. Shock. Yeah. Last measures. How long do you see yourself in this industry?

Do you ever sit there and think I could never get out of this or do you want to? What's your long-term goal or life plan if you have one? I don't think that I don't think that I could never get out of it. I think that I could very easily get out of it if I wanted to. Oh, right, okay.

But I just don't really want to. Sometimes I think to myself like, oh, maybe it would be nice. to have like a normal job because there are like perks that come with that but then I think like oh but then I wouldn't be able to just do whatever I want all the time and make the amount of money that I do for how much I work I definitely have a very comfortable work life balance yeah very comfortable so I need to know though when you're let's say 50 60 um do you still see yourself doing it or would you would you want to make enough money now to then retire early and then

maybe put your I would definitely like to retire early but well not necessarily retire because I've kind of the opinion that like retiring is not that good for you so like it's actually good yeah it's good for you to like have a purpose in life yeah yeah but I don't see myself doing

exactly what I'm doing now but to be honest like the industry is constantly changing like as technology changes like it just does change like what I was doing in 2017 when I first started it's evolved since then things have changed like different platforms have come and gone and like, you know, I think the next thing is going to be VR and like how that's going to change the industry.

What's that I mean? Virtual reality. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I've got a VR camera. I haven't figured out how to use it yet because I'm a bit tech illiterate. But yeah, that's going to change things. And like, to be honest, I know 100% that I could do this in some capacity until I died.

Yeah. There are people who want granny doms. Like they literally will pay. would love that, weren't they? Like an old lady to tell them off because, like, so maybe they had a teacher at school who was really old and they just got a bono when they were like 15 and that's it. Old women for life.

So there's always going to be somebody. Yeah. And I can see in the industry now, there's plenty of women who are like well into their 50s and still are making absolute bank because you just kind of like get that fan base and often they will just stay with you forever. you know it's the same as like how i guess like you know madonna or like share they're pretty old now

yeah but they're still just absolutely iconic and like relevant yeah so you can stay relevant even jennifer lopez like you wouldn't think by looking at that she's in her 50s but smoking hot yeah yeah yeah so the question on everyone's lips is we want to know how much money you make and what's the most money you've made from one thing and then how much do you make i'm not gonna be super specific no that's fair But I make five figures every month without fail. One, two, three. And I make six figures every year without fail. Wow.

What? Yeah. Everyone's really questioning all their life choices. I'm quitting this podcast. You can do like ASMR shit, couldn't you? AISMR is a fetish as well as a... Yeah. It's my fetish.

I love watching it on TikTok. I love it as well. That's one of my favourite things. Yeah. I love ASMR. Woo! So what's the most money? Like, what's the most money you've made?

Not the most money, but what's your most profitable? Because obviously, people pay per view or clips from your custom. Like, what's the best earner for you? What, do you mean, like, specifically, what makes me the most money? Meet in person, custom clip. Yeah, only fans, what's your biggest earner. Do you know what it's really difficult to say? I do make quite a lot of money from custom clips.

Yeah. I definitely got, like, a decent custom clip fan base. I think because I have, like, a background in performance, I'm just quite good at acting. I'd say that's my thing, like my two things at school were drama and art. That was what I loved, just love drama and art. And then when I went obviously off to uni and did fine art, I basically ended up doing drama and fine art.

Because I just acted on video and just called it art. So my custom video customers, I've got a lot of them. I'm kind of always overwhelmed with how many custom click requests I have. I get, to be honest, I have like more than I can really deal with. Do you turn them down some stuff? No, I just make them wait. Okay. Yeah, I'm hardly going to turn things down.

Yeah, I'm actually sorry, that's a, that's a light. I do turn things down. If people want things that I don't want to do, I turn it down. And what are they? So, like, somebody the other day, and I thought it was kind of weird that he even asked for it, but he was just like, because it was just like so different for anything that I do. He asked for something that was like, I don't know, relatively non-whatever.

And then you just go on the bed and like fuck yourself with a dildo for like 10 minutes. I was like, no, I don't do that. I've never, there's not one single video of me anywhere on the internet where I do that. Like, there's plenty of women who do. Go and ask them. Like, really that's not why I do. I see. So anything that's like that or anything that's just a bit too taboo.

Not just necessarily you personally, but like any of your, anyone in the industry that you know, what is the weirdest fetish you've ever heard somebody have? I don't know because I think what's weird as different for everyone, isn't it? True. Because we asked some of our listeners, this question, if they had any kinky fetishes. And a lot of them, obviously quite a lot of people probably would probably want to reply,

but a lot of women love to be spat all over. Like that's probably just quite, or a lot of, feet, like foot fetishes, but there was one person that said that she went out with a guy who liked to wear a nappy and shit himself. Yeah. Yeah. At dinner. Adult baby. He likes to shoot himself at dinner. Yeah. Like secretly, but in public. No, I think when they were together. Okay, when they were together. Yeah. Adult baby. It's a thing. Yeah. Napi fetish. Where does that stem from? But does the person who has the fit, like. The aid all question, Jess. anybody really truly knows but i i definitely think that there is some link between trauma and fetish so

and that could be like really minor but you like i so often you know speak to guys who say like oh you know this all started when like this girl bullied me at school or this all started when like this thing happened do you ever get drawn into that the emotional side yeah if somebody starts telling you a story or can you stay in what you're supposed to be doing what they're paying you for or do you ever get drawn on Is that up a way on you, having to take on your problems? I think a part of the job is, like, as much as I'm not in anywhere qualified therapist, but, like, to be good at the job, you need to be that kind of, like, empathetic person because that is a big part of why these people speak to you.

A lot of people are lonely, and, like, they want a connection. And so, like, if you can't, like, connect with people and you're too shut off from it, you're probably not going to do very well. You have to be able to connect with people and empathize with people. And you know what? I think that like if I was going to do something else and I've toyed with this idea for like years and years and years, I think I would train as a therapist. I feel like that probably is my calling. And this is just like, you know, obviously it's not really therapy.

But like there's an element of it. Yeah, absolutely. And it's just psychologically interesting, like talking to people, talking to all different people about their like weird fetishes and stuff like that. It's very interesting the way that people's brains work when it comes. like sexuality and stuff like that. Every person's an individual or over 10 years and there's a long time, can you start like kind of boxing people off? Oh totally.

And there's only like maybe six types of... I mean there's probably more than six or five but yes, absolutely there's certain types of people. And then and then sometimes there's not. Sometimes there's not. Sometimes people are just like a wild card. But yeah, there's definitely a certain type of person. This is so interesting.

It is so interesting, isn't it? I've absolutely loved having you here, Amelia. Oh, thanks. I've loved being here. Everyone's going to be listening to this podcast and handed me the notice next week. There's been a spike in people leaving. Whoopsie. Well, I think we should wrap it up there.

Yeah? You got any more questions else? No, but I'm sure I will over time. I know. We'll get so many questions, I think, as well. So we'll do a follow-up. Yeah, definitely. Cool.

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What was it? Get spanking. Which is so fitting with today's podcast as well, isn't it? Perfect. So yeah, thank you so much for listening, everybody. If you love the podcast, please rate it. Give us five stars. If not, we don't want to hear about it.

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