A Lot On Your Plate - S4 Ep19: Spice up your sex life
Episode Date: June 18, 2024Welcome to our deep dive into relationships, part two! This week we focus on marriage and the biggest one of all, SEX. We share more of our social poll results and read through messages and advice fro...m our lovely listeners. We hope you and enjoy and as always, hope this advice and open conversation helps you or a friend🫶🏻 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Happy Tuesday, Podpiggies.
Happy Tuesday!
We are back and ready to go.
Let's get ready.
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Let's get ready to rumbo.
Also, a very important note at the start of this.
This is our, and if you know, you know, the ultimate episodes.
That big long word.
That caused a lot of confusion a few seasons ago.
It really did.
Because did you not just blurt it out and I'll be, what the fuck does that mean?
Yeah.
I've got on a big iPad if you're looking on the YouTube.
So do you think I look a bit?
profess because we get so triggered by the phones by the way we're going to have
we're going to have Q cards next season for sure because we are aware that some if you
watch it does sometimes look like we're not interested looking at our phone but we've got a very
structured note on our phone each week of what to talk about so that is why we look there
we're not just you know scroll and tick-tuck and do you think I look good in red guys because
she does I do my mother always told me that when I was younger and he's like no I hate red but
now I do think it compliments my skin tone
my mum looks really good in red too
and you are similar and also
what's really lucky at
what did you say? I said very similar
I thought you went don't say that
it's like that's nasty or that
we actually
brought the same outfit today
but thankfully Jess at the second option
she also brought this exact shirt
and the dark jeans we would have
and the black jeans and we've got
like operators on
anyway
so anyway
mudflowers are the week
we haven't had them for a couple of weeks
but we have but we've just had mixed recording dates
but to me they are beautiful actually
they look like white roses eucalyptus
I think there's a couple of white peonies in there
and we're not quite sure what the other
small flowers are not baby's breath is it no it's not
baby's breath interesting
that's called we I think it is
that's kind of giving me like a bride's bouquet
it's really beautiful and can I just say
thought of the week was
what a fantastic job
a flower delivery man has
or woman
because when are you ever disappointed
when you receive a big bunch of flowers
they must have some right responses
absolutely never by the way you're right
that's a really nice job to have
so I was actually mopping my
shutter door bit and so my door was open
and he came and he just lent in
and he gets Jess and I was like
oh my God they're beautiful
and I thought I wonder how many people
actually have that sort of reaction
and it probably lifts their spirits as well
yeah and he was laughing at me like
oh have a nice day
oh that is nice
anyway
this week's spitter swallow
was actually a bit of a last minute addition
to today's episode
because we just weren't going to have one
because the timing we've just eaten whatever
anyway
we passed Big Bear Bakery
in the West End in Partrick
and we got a
cherry bakewell almond croissant
it does look dynamite to be fair
pass that up um but next season right you know how we like to support small businesses
and initially this whole spit or swallow segment was meant to be to try foods that were a little
bit controversial and we ended up doing it more where we support small businesses and of course
we do love that so much but if there's anything that you want us to try please send it to us
anything viral but also if you have a small business please send it our way we will happily
support you gives a go then that is nice is it it's always been really good with her um eating
for a few weeks now aren't you and all i want is a bad of daily milk have it then last week's
episode was we thought it was great we listened to it back a lot um there was a few cuts made
because as you can imagine,
there's things that we share that we maybe didn't want to put out there into the world.
But there was a lot we kept in because we felt like it would be quite relatable
and help a lot of you guys.
But thankfully, and we knew it would be,
the feedback we've had from that episode has been probably the best we've had yet.
A lot of you guys love it, female and males.
We showed a little bit more of a vulnerable side.
It wasn't less of the producers alike.
It was not very much a more of a ha-ha episode like we usually do.
But I think we like that from time to time, don't we?
Yeah, I think it's just difficult, like, see when you listen back, it's so hard to not be like, have I ever shared.
But that's kind of like how we feel every week.
Like we just obviously want to make sure that we're not saying something that we shouldn't or whatever.
Yeah.
And conversations like that, it's even more difficult because you're talking about other people.
Yeah.
And even past experiences, yeah, they probably won't even know, listen, whatever.
But you just don't want to be too disrespectful or we're both in a relationship now.
Of course.
So you don't want to overshare on your current or your past because of that.
So we hope that we were open enough about experience.
I think we were.
And we'll try and keep it that way moving forward.
Yeah.
So we just want to read out a couple of messages that we've had from you guys.
And bear in mind this episode has been out a couple of days.
So I know it takes you a while to catch up.
But already we've had the amount of views on the YouTube that we'd probably take for a week to get, wouldn't we?
Yeah.
It's been good.
I think people are just wanting to see you.
Have a little fear.
love that for me
anyway
we were actually debating
cutting that out
but I thought
you know what
it is what it is
isn't it
well I said to you
I think it's nice
to keep that
and it's raw
and also
you weren't like
breaking down in tears
you were just
emotional about
an emotional time
yeah
that
I think it would be
different
if you weren't out of that
yeah exactly
because you can look
back and
flex and whatever
on it's not
there's nothing wrong
with having a cry
we all should be
sharing our motions
from time to time
absolutely
so love this episode
so much
also appreciate how raw and open the conversation between you both was that can't have been easy to put that out for the world to hear so thank you on behalf of your listeners because that's going to help so many people i love that needed to hear this episode needed in capitals that's important so much right now i've been with my boyfriend for x amount of years this year and have been going through those exact in capitals again feelings you guys brought up this episode i'm definitely going to try the midweek date night idea to bring us closer together and the note to get all my feelings out there
thank you so much for sharing insights into your relationships
and making me feel a little bit more normal
about having a wobble
I love that
today's episode wall
had me right in the feels and has actually made me realise
I'm going through a seven-year blip at the moment
with her 10-month-old baby thrown into the mix
I need to make sure we do date nights
and spend more time just us too
I feel like our world has done a whole three-sixth of the past few years
and I really needed to put us first even if it's once a fortnight
so I really needed to listen to this today
thanks girlies
stop and this one's a nice one
I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for today's podcast.
I was at exactly where Jess was this time last year
and didn't feel like I could talk to my friends about it.
Thankfully, out the other side now,
but it's oddly refreshing to know that all couples do go through the same thing.
See?
And then we had one from our loyal, lovely male listener.
We have a lot of male listeners, but one in particular we love.
We enter that quite a lot.
And we're not going to share the name because, you know.
But what a brilliant episode, one of the best,
Really interesting and insightful, but as always bloody hilarious.
So good to hear relationships discussed at a relatable level with the advice that you can use
versus it being deep in psychological theory and therapists speak.
Also good for it not being boy bashing.
We love men.
We said we didn't do it and we didn't do it.
We can touch on it, but it won't go full pelt.
Exactly.
But anyway, thank you so much.
We love hearing all your feedback.
Yeah.
Makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside, I'd say.
It does, because when you have a vial video go out on Instagram, let me tell you some comments aren't very good for the old noggin.
Jesus Christ, guys.
The past two videos you've put out, the back of five and the out with, and even the kilt one, wow.
Do you know what I've noticed?
Maybe not just TikTok, but I've noticed TikTok is definitely going down the route of, like, a bit how Facebook is.
There's a lot of older people on there that have really strong.
nasty opinions and they voice it so vocally and they have their little call of just trolls
together and it always seems to be the people that have like snapchat filter display pictures
and you're never going to be able to really fully make them out yeah and they just have like
two followers i'm not talking like fake accounts i'm talking like it is really them yeah but it might
have like a rangers um shirt as their dp and they're just talking really horrendous about us and
And I just think, Jesus, get a life, like, what?
I just think it says more about them than us.
And I've told you before, these people saying these things are pleasure in themselves.
Whatever is?
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
But anyway, I just find the open trolling on a viral video is so savage.
People get angry about things that don't matter.
It's just not that deep.
It's also just their opinion.
It doesn't matter.
It's a lighthearted conversation.
and there's a lot more to the conversation
if you listen to the podcast
that's not that one clip is not the whole episode
anyway moving on
this week we're going to
speak more about the
sexual side of relationships
but also covering a bit on marriage too
yep because we put out the polls
for last week's ep and we included marriage
and some sexual bits
we did so we'll dive right into that shall we
so the first one was is getting married
important to you we had yes always wanted to not really fuss but wouldn't say no partner wants
it more than me and not for me so we had 54% saying yes always wanted to interesting
37% not really fuss but wouldn't say no that's probably where i'm at yeah three percent partner wants
it more than me and six percent not for me interesting yeah i just feel like a lot of people now are
probably they're not really fast but wouldn't say no yeah like it's not that you don't want to
marry the person it's just that you're not bothered about marriage in general and there was a
couple of messages on response to that saying I'm a little bit different to any of these um answers
I've been married before and I'm divorced but I probably would marry again or I don't see the
point in marry again marrying again yeah right so we're going to read out a few messages from our
listeners in each segment of this episode because there was a lot
a listener's message on marriage love this question as it's always spoke about my friend group none of us are married but all in long-term relationships my four best friends think marriage is so important and really want it me on the other hand is not too bothered i don't know why maybe because i've spoke about it with my boyfriend and he's got the same thoughts as me when you love each other as much as you do just now why should you get married it shouldn't change anything like just because you're married shouldn't mean you love them even more than being in a long-term relationship your love for each other
other should always be unconditional and loyal whether you're married or not.
One of my girls says she just wants to be married because of thought of being in your 80s
and referring to your man as my boyfriend is quite icky, which to be honest, yes, that's
maybe true.
So looking forward to this discussion on the pod.
I call Richard my partner though a lot of the times.
Yeah, you do do that actually.
Check that's like came with age.
Yeah, definitely.
It was my BF.
My man, my man.
I don't know.
Yeah, I would just still always say boyfriend.
but I do think when you say it in a situation
with like someone you don't know at all
and you would say
me and my boyfriend have been there
because you wouldn't say their name
because you don't know who that is
I do sometimes feel about like
What are your thoughts Zoe
when someone gets engaged
and they start referring to them as their fiancé
I just don't know if I could say it
I know same
but then if you call your boyfriend
then it's like
your friends would be like wait a minute
you're engaged
no I know
I think just stick with maybe we go up to partner
at that stage
Yeah.
I just agree with this, right.
Listen, I am in the same 37% of I'm not really fussed,
but I definitely wouldn't say no to marry him, of course.
But, yeah, I just don't know what that would change for me in Richard.
But people have said that when they get married,
that it just feels different.
When you say out loud, that's my husband or that's my wife,
it just feels different and you have this sort of like really nice bond
from the wedding day, the honeymoon.
if you have all that.
I think the issue is when people marry the wrong person
or they've like committed to the marriage
before it's even happened
and then they still go through with it.
Once that newlywed bubble's gone
people then don't work
because without that sort of bubble of marriage around them
they actually realise that that's not real life to an extent.
Yeah.
Like once all that fun and games is gone
then a relationship should just be a relationship.
Yeah.
So unless you're kind of,
working already the way you should be to get married you then maybe feel like it falls apart
about it but these 54% of that I've always wanted to that definitely will stem from them probably
being a little girl no I know always seen their parents as well being married I might have looked
up to them thinking I want that love what my parents have got see I don't have that so I don't know
if that is the reason but I mean it could it can send from anything but they might have loved
romantic films and thought I want that sort of love or they want the whole wedding
It's just never been
I've never had that dream
Like the little girl dream
That we're talking about just now
I've not
But there might not even be a reason for that
I think it's just
It is what you like what you like
I mean see to be honest
I thought of picking a fucking wedding dress
Is enough to put me off
I wouldn't know what the hell to wear
I'd want to put a suit on I think
I'm saying
Right we have another lovely message here
I split up from my husband
Around Christmas time
After just getting married in October
2022 and buying a new house the following year.
Loll, nightmare. And I was absolutely mortified because I was worried what people would think
and because I'm 30. We were together for 10 years and he wasn't, isn't a bad guy whatsoever,
but I just wasn't right for me in the end. I think we'd just grown apart. I fell out of love
and couldn't see a way past it. At first people were like, what the actual fuck? But to be
honest, I'm five minutes on now and back in my old room at my mum and dad's, which isn't ideal,
but I honestly cannot remember the last time I was discontent and happy which people are noticing.
at the gym. I've done a girl's trip. I'm going to somewhere with the family and have another
girl's trip booked for somewhere in November. Things I've always wanted to do, but couldn't because
of responsibilities, financial, etc., and now living with my absolute best life. My advice would be
fuck what people think and do what's best for you and what makes you happy, even if you think
you're going to upset people, it's only short term. It's so cliche, but you are only here once,
so it may as well make the most of it. I'm not interested in the slightest right now, but from a future
partner I just want them to enjoy living life and doing fun things making memories and not
taking things too seriously love the pod I think that's a really nice message same and I think
that hopefully brings comfort to people too totally because I'm at that age now where I've got
friends going through this sort of same experience where they got married and they divorced
really quick yeah or they have been with a long-term long-term partner who they've probably
only ever been with and it's quite daunting to think what is life without them yeah and they've
split from them and they've got this whole new life and yes it's not easy but they are coming out of
the other side now and like she says you do only live once we spoke about settling in the last
episode that if you're brave enough and i know it's it's easier said than done but you will always
get through the other side absolutely even if you do have to move back in with your parents or
somewhere, then you will start getting back on your feet and finding your next
path in life. I mean, people say a breakup to an extent is like grief. Yeah. You're
grieving your old life. Yeah. And you're also grieving that person because to you, the typical
way to break up with someone is to cut them out your life. Yeah. Unless there's ties there that you
can't avoid. So to you, you almost act as if they are dead. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And like even
know there's social media and all that now typically speaking you probably won't interact anymore
or you'll delete them off it or whatever so they're just gone so it is going to be a big
adjustment it's a big change and it will be hard whether you're the one that made the decision or not
yeah very interesting the change of it that's hard I think yeah yeah with most no totally
now let's move on a little bit to children and marriage so a couple people messages about marriage
as well, but it also involved children
or wanting to have children, which I think
just puts a bit of a different spin on
it too. Yeah. So someone
messages saying, not being able to have kids, it was a huge
shock and took a long time to figure out what was next.
After exploring adoption for two years, which was the most heartbreaking
experience to discover that it was not right for us,
having to rewrite our future and get excited
for a new chapter took us through so many lows
and I almost lost all hope.
If it wasn't for the fact that I married my best friend
and we make the most solid team, I don't know
we could have survived the last four years.
We decided to make a huge leap of faith
and start a new chapter in Dubai.
We move in a few months' time
and can't wait to have this adventure
with my gorgeous husband.
I'm so proud of us.
Life throws us obstacles when we least expect it
and I react to things completely differently
from other half.
But I'm living time and space to heal as individuals
and also as a couple has actually made us stronger
than ever and I'm so grateful I get to do life with him,
communication and allow space.
Oh, that's a lovely message.
It's obviously really upsetting this.
situation but they're making the best of what they can and i think that is a great move to
Dubai it's a great place with people that um probably don't have children or a bit more like an
expat community yeah and i think they'll thrive in that okay so we asked for some advice from
our listeners for keeping the relationship alive long term so we actually had a message on our
patreon direct messages this was this was nice i wanted to share some relationship advice i've given to
friends before, but only when they've asked. I've been in relationship with my husband for 11 and a half
years and I've been married for five. Number one, communicate openly about expectations you have
for each other, especially when if you live together, even if you might think something is common
knowledge slash sense, courtesy, always communicate whatever it is with your partner. Two, find
hobbies and interests to share together, but also have your own hobbies and interests. You can enjoy
without them, which we both massively agree, don't we? Yeah. Three, it can. It can't
can be healthy to fight and argue, but only when you and your partner are able to learn
and grow from the fight together.
I like that one.
And never sleep on it.
Obviously there is so much more that goes into having a healthy and happy relationship,
but those are the three bits of advice I found myself giving to others when they've asked.
That's very wise.
Yes.
I also like how they've said when they've asked.
Yeah.
Because I do think because you want advice and stuff from your friends, you want to go to them.
but there's nothing worse than when
you kind of turn
unsolicited advice
yeah or like turn their opinion so badly
that then it's just negative
every time after that
which I feel as adults
I've not really experienced luckily
and I hope that I don't give that off either
but I remember when you were younger
going out with people and they would like do something
it was like I hate them
I just hate them
I mean I would never say that to you now
even if I thought Richard could do things better
I wouldn't be like I hate him
do you know what I mean
that's probably
why a lot of friends by the way
are afraid to speak to their friends
about their relationship because
judgment they don't want
number one and their family they actually don't want
their family or friends to think bad of their partner
because they might be going through a blip
and there's maybe certain things said in a relationship that other people
can't forgive they're like oh
remember that time when he said that to you there
you do always have those friends that remember the bad stuff
all the time and I think that can be quite toxic
I think when you just want to have and they want to mend you of it
yeah and all you want to do is just have a friend there
just to give you some advice.
But maybe that's why a lot of people find comfort in messaging us
because we don't know them that deep.
We'll never judge their partner.
But it is sad that some people feel like they can't talk to,
you know, and they keep it with bottled up.
Unless it was just all the time this person was just toxic
and you're always falling out.
There's only so much that your friend can take before they're like,
come on, like you two are not made for one another.
or like it's just like the person that cries wolf they'll always you're running to your friends for help and advice only when you're having a shit time yeah and all it's like the information falls on deaf is what we tell you you never gonna listen to me anyway so why you've got to the point where I'm not bothered anymore I know and are you using me I don't know yeah gets like that another bit of advice always protect a small piece of yourself and keep you
Keep it safe just for you.
Never rely solely on one person to provide your happiness.
You should always be your number one priority.
That is so true.
You will never find true happiness if, well, firstly, happiness is not a destination.
It's a way of life.
I like that.
There we go.
But you have to put yourself first.
And if you're not happy within yourself to some extent, you'll never really find happiness truly with your partner
because you're depending on that from them.
and I think that's when
like generally speaking
that's when relationships don't work
and that's why people say don't jump into something
after you've just ended something either
because there's no
the chance of you being happy after just ending something as slim
so then you're going to just fill that void with another person
yeah rebounding and then it just all comes crumbling down
yeah I know a lot of people that jump from relationship to relationship
and I'm not saying it's a bad thing
because it might just be right person, right time or whatnot.
But, yeah, I think that they haven't really grieved
or taken a step back about that past relationship
and just thought, this is why it didn't work.
You actually deflected on what they liked, didn't like,
why it didn't work, why it worked, like all that sort of thing.
I think that's really important to do that.
Yeah, so quite a few people messaged us about couples therapy
and I think, again, going back to the age thing,
I think if I was a bit younger,
that would have never been an option.
And I think therapy is now quite widely spoken about
in terms of just like individual therapy
as well as couples therapy.
I do know a lot of people that have been and have,
there is nobody that has ever come away from therapy
from what I know and haven't found it useful in some way.
If you go to a good therapist, that is, I'd imagine.
But I do think that that doesn't ever mean that it's failed.
I think it's just a way of,
openly speaking to somebody that is like a devil's advocate.
Yeah, definitely.
That will give you some advice and help.
And I don't think it means you've failed in your relationship,
but I actually think it's really brave to do that.
I was just going to say, like, how can anyone look at you trying to make something work
or trying to better yourself or better your relationship or whatever as a negative?
But there is a lot of, I'm going to say guys here because I've heard them,
but they're like, we don't need therapy.
Oh, fuck that.
I'm not going to go and speak to a stranger about
and I understand that's quite daunting
I get it and I think I'd probably feel that way as well
I don't want to sit in a room with a stranger
but if you really struggle to communicate with your partner
and you're constantly rowing having somebody there
to listen and keep it calm
and you can just voice your frustration
to somebody else whilst I sat there listening
and the therapist is saying to them right
you be quiet that is a really good way
of it is it like the mediocre of the room
yeah they're stopping you from just heading back
with what you want to say. I also feel like
it's important as well to think
not everyone's been brought up the same either.
So you've maybe been allowed to speak that way to your parents
or your siblings or whatever
or you've not. Or
like you had an upbringing where you witnessed a lot of that
behaviour so you think it's okay.
So that's where therapy's helpful too
I'd imagine for people. Because it's not
just that you two as a couple aren't getting along. It's like no
you two as people need help and how it handle situations.
and life, not just with each other.
Yeah.
Quick shout out for my mother.
She'd kill me if I do.
But my mum actually is a qualified therapist
and she is wanting to specialise in couples.
That woman has been through an awful lot in her life
and she's amazing at conversations
and getting right in an abutate.
She gets deep and I like that.
See, I struggle with that because I'm obviously her daughter
but having like a therapist as a mom or somebody that's interested.
like psychology. She has been since years and years and years. But obviously she isn't
able to give me therapy. You can't give your family therapy. And I don't know anything about
people she's given therapy to because of client confidentiality. But what I do know is I've
seen like reviews and messages of how much she's changed people's lives and just help them. So
yeah, she's a really good person. If you are looking for someone, you don't even know where to start
with couples therapy or even just therapy in general.
the way um she's she can relate to an awful lot in her life um she might be somebody she's at
conversations with polly on instagram so you can give her a little message good on her and she
i won't know anything because she isn't allowed to say anything she hasn't allowed to say i not
even if she wants to yeah she does zoom calls but if you are based in east midlands you could do
face-to-face i think but yeah she'll be a fully um qualified psychotherapist next year but she's
i think a level four therapist at the moment if people care about credentials i don't know what
it means. No idea but I'm sure
it is important. Yeah. Anyway
there you go, mother. She would like that.
She'll be buzzing. She will be buzzing.
Anyway, let's move on
to the nitty gritty.
The dirtiness. Yeah, go on there.
The naughtiness. Yep. The subject
we all call
SEX. Sex.
Okay, so anyone wasn't sure.
Anyway, we're back
to the stats. I hope
people enjoy these stats because I do.
I do. It's really interesting.
interesting. No, it is. And I think it's important because again, it just shows that...
I was quite relieved by this one. There's never a one person.
Yeah. And we're just looking at our group of followers, listeners, whatever. So you widen that, it's only going to get wider for each category, right?
So we've got, we asked, how often you have sex and this is for people living together and in a relationship.
only because we're focused on relationships
and how to keep them working
but also if you're single it's quite hard to gauge
like are you just you dating someone
and you're having mad sex all the time
or are you single and just not what I'm interested
like it would make more sense of
you know keeping the spark alive
was kind of the topic so that would tend to be
like a long term relationship
absolutely yeah
so we had most days
which was 7%
thank God I was believing I saw that
I thought, God.
Who can be arsed?
I can be fucked.
We're busy.
Who can be barked?
One to two times a week.
I'm going to go with that once.
Let's round it down.
51%.
That was over a thousand people, by the way.
Good on you.
One to two times a month was 30%.
And it's been a while was 11%.
And that was like,
Nearly 300 people.
Yep.
But one to two times a month was still a higher number.
6.40.
I just think all these things you need to take a lot of things in into consideration, right?
One being schedule.
Schedule.
People work away, people work different hours, people work different schedules.
What did it mean scheduling sex, by the way?
I mean just our general live schedule, yeah.
You're maybe nights out there or not.
You get home, they're sleeping.
blah, blah, blah. There must be at least
like shift patterns and things. Yeah, five
days a month where you're not
going to bed or in that
sort of head space together.
There's also five days a month where
you're probably on your period. Exactly, that's what I was
going to say. As
women, if anyone's like me, there's about
30 days a month that you've got a urine infection.
Kid on, that's just not related to. I just can't
even relate them anymore.
But then there's also things
like holidays, travelling
there's just so many different things
so that if people...
But there's also, let's take into consideration here
that they may be having a bit
of a tough time with their partner, so it's
been a while because
they've lost that. That's what else I was
going to say. If you're going through a blip
that you feel, or even if you're not going through a blip, right,
you have a stupid argument over something. There's
one or two days gone. Yeah.
Out of a week. And then you go away with your friends
for a week or then they do.
Exactly.
You're knack-knackard.
Guys, I'm knackard.
Fat and shattered.
Fat and shattered and knackered.
And I look disgusting in my fluffy pajamas.
I don't want to shaggy right now.
Like, we all feel the same.
That's not lie.
We do.
And we did say this actually, Zoe.
We forgot to ask this.
But do you guys sleep naked?
Because I listened to a podcast once that was initiating how to re-light a spark in a relationship.
And they said that sleep naked.
like as Richard does
Skin to skin
skin is actually a very intimate thing
and I think that does
and I do
I'll share this but if I do
for some reason have
get hot or take my top off
because I do wear like
pajamas but not I'm not talking like
flipping onesie here but it just
why not a little bra top up
but if I do have my top off
or whatnot Richard is like
hello
hello hello hello my girls
and it just feel nice
it just feel nice
so I knew it like spooning away
but I think if I did that every single night
I'd be at it like rabbits I'm sure
I don't know maybe not
but just tell us in DMs do you sleep naked
do you find that spice up your sex up a bit more
or your pyjamas girly
maybe your man's a pajama boy
I've said it before we love pyjamas
yeah like when we have done what we need to do
for the day it's pajama time
yeah we like to like
I just like wearing pajamas me too
we watch the telly in our pajamas
like that's just that's our
chill clothes essentially
do you feel cold naked because I do
Baltic yeah
but I do get quite hot and bothered a lot at night
which I will take my top off sometimes
but I wouldn't say it's that often
but I don't think I would ever get into bed
top it's more like a middle of the night
half sleeping tops off
then I wake up like oh fuck let the girls out during the night
but I do definitely think that would spice things up
I think it would
it would for me anyway like
I do think it would.
But I mean the average,
well, more than half
was one to two times a week.
That's great.
Good for you.
Good for fucking you.
Who initiates it?
Me, 10%.
I'm guessing that was mostly women.
That would make sense.
10%.
Partner, 51%.
Horny men?
Both of us, 13%.
39%
That's nice
That's nice, yeah
I would say
I am
Honestly, I am a mix
Between all three of them
Honestly, I am
So
I would say I'm all three of them
No, I would agree with you then
It just depends on my
Mood
I'm a horny pig
When I'm on my period
But he didn't want to go there
I know
A lot of people say that
And it's really unfortunate
It is, isn't it?
It's shit actually
Yeah, I don't know
I would say I'm all three
no same i just think it depends on circumstances and it also will come to this with a message that we had
but i think both is important i think this started the you asked a question you're going to ask a
question of do you have sex sometimes to just tick a box because let's be honest here
a lot of women i have an awful lot of friends we've had this conversation where they'll say oh just
really can't be asked or I'm not up for it and so many women fear that that's an issue or
they worry that there's something wrong with them or they don't fancy their partner but they do
it's just they just their libido is low and honestly I don't really have like a humongously
high sex drive but we all go through it we all go through stages where we just really just are
not up for it doesn't mean that we don't fancy our partner maybe you maybe you don't but I
definitely do I think there's quite a hard balance as well because a lot of people
say to not leave it until you're getting into bed because with that point one of you out the two if not the both of you are probably shattered but anyway this goes on quite nicely to we were chatting about how did someone write it in or did we heed it somewhere about how four play starts in the day yeah which I'm a big advocate for this actually I'm the same I really can't I can't relate to this that much because I feel like Richard does
is really great with all those things that we've written down.
But I'm going to try and relate to somebody in a situation
where their partner doesn't give them much attention or compliments or...
But I think even if they do,
it's quite important to maybe realize that that's kind of what's happening.
That's maybe not the intent, but it's quite a good thing.
If you feel you get that but don't give it,
then maybe you should, maybe it'll kind of re-like that for them.
Because we were saying...
It's more of like men's expectations that a woman would have sex with them
when it's like, wait a minute, you've fucked me off all day.
Yeah.
You've not cleaned the house or done whatever you were meant to do.
You've not said one nice thing to me.
You've not asked me how my day was.
I've cooked your dinner.
You've not, you left your plate.
Why the hell do you think I'm going to then spread my legs for you, mate?
You can fuck off.
Absolutely.
It is true though, Zoe.
Well, if you're in that mindset, you don't feel good about someone.
By the way.
Yeah.
I'm just talking from our perspective here, but.
That's what I mean.
Like, having arguments or your partner's behavior.
and day-to-day life will and can affect your sex life
because if you're not feeling good about them
or they're not doing anything for you to fancy them that day
obviously as a whole you fancy your partner
because it's the main reason you've ended up together
as with a nationally fancing each other
but you still need to fancy them day to day
and like them whereas you go through days
you don't like your partner because they're annoying you
yeah I mean you're not going to have then have sex of them
but I don't know I wouldn't that just wouldn't feel right for me
no me too so what we were saying was
foreplay isn't just the
touching each other up
it's like the compliments a bit
flirting your behaviour
towards each other nice gestures
and just treating you well
like an all rounder
that all leads to then wanting to touch each other
wanting to kiss and yeah
be like ooh
bloody bloody have you seen that page on
Instagram with the little
chicks or
no
is it little chicks or ducks or something like that
and it's like
it's just all these videos about
this wee couple
yeah
but they're obviously
chicks say
and it's like
when
when you're going to sleep
so then one tries to fall asleep
and then one's like
so then that
like say it's the guy
puts the phone down
yeah
oh I've seen this
light goes off
something else
and then they keep doing it
until it's like
they turn round the cuddle in
but there's a
Jason showed me last night
there's a whole page on videos
I fucking love it
it's just really relatable
well isn't it? Because we're all the same as women, aren't we?
We are. I want to go to sleep with you
like cuddled into me, like not whilst you're on your phone.
Get off your phone.
Yeah, unless I'm shattered down what you do, but you want it on my way.
But when I put my phone down, we're just like your battery's gone, hasn't it?
I'm like, yes.
This leads us on nicely to make up sex.
What are your thoughts on having makeup sex?
I feel like this is where the sort of like women comes out in me.
Yeah.
Because I just don't necessarily agree.
obviously it depends
circumstances whatever right
but I just feel like
yeah it'll come
obviously because it naturally will
but I just
kind of rush into that
on the night of also having the blazing row
just feels off for me
yeah I think then you would naturally have
a nicer day the next day when you're almost like
oh that's us back in love like we've got rid of that problem
and then you have like a nice
And then it would just naturally lead into that, whereas I just really don't like girls that, again, we're talking women to men here, but I just don't like when they almost feel like that sort of gets them back in the good book.
Yeah.
And like gives the man what they want.
I agree with you.
Yeah, it's probably not actually going to happen because you've maybe got that sort of like excitement, passion of like, yay, we like each other again.
But I don't know that I like the term makeup set.
Yeah.
But then there is some women that really love it because they're getting a really good shag out of me.
And it's kind of that sort of like angry passion.
Right, we've got a funny question here.
Two people wrote this in.
Is a small dick a deal breaker?
Shouldn't laugh because, you know, poor sods I can't help it, but...
Can't help. We've got a chode.
Chode.
Hmm.
Any personal experience or thoughts on that one?
yeah it is
final answer
for me personally yeah it was
is
yeah
yeah
shame
real shame
but
like we say
it's a massive part
of a relationship
and if it's just
not there
no pun intended
then it's really
difficult
but we had a message
from somebody
yeah
right
here we're
go. So I've met someone whilst travelling
at the start of the year. Unexpectedly
we kept in touch and we met up last weekend.
The boy bloody flew five hours across
Australia to see me. He is
so perfect, very handsome, family
man, so funny, but there's just
a small issue. His manhood
is a little small and I know
it's not all about the sex and I wish
I could look past it but I'm not really sure what I should
do, help.
Aw, that's a tough one.
I think it's
I don't think overall
you would say it's an issue
if you know what I mean
because it's like well if you don't really
if you personally don't really notice it
in a situation or it's not
actually tiny you maybe just think it's a bit smaller
or whatever
but how small are we talking here this is a thing like
no I know like a micro penis
I don't know
how can that physically go in a hole
I just don't want to be mean because I know
it's like they can't help it and that's a really
real shame. It's not like, you know, like people have a flat chest, they can go and get a
boob job. I know. I do feel it's really bad. Like, can you get a, a willy job?
Willey growth? Probably. Turkey. But I don't know. To answer her question, I feel like there's
other ways that you can be in a relationship with someone. Doesn't always have to be like
penis penetration. You could, you could experience things differently. Well, that's what I was going to
see if it doesn't affect your
attraction to them
yeah that's a shame
I don't know
I know it's quite a hard one right
but see if you're still like see
if that happened then once you found
that out you were looking at them and all you could think about was
fuck he's got a small dick
that was too much swearing him one I'm sorry
then there's your answer
no you can't see past it but even
your nice words about this person
you're quite clearly still
into them and attracted to them
so as you said is there ways around it
like can you
get a toy and just pretend it's the willy
yeah maybe you could
that's an option I mean the guy's going to know
he's got a small willy if it's small enough for you to
yeah if it's worried about
what you're making it out yeah
so I wouldn't say end it just yet
honey I would say if he's all
he sounds like a really nice person
yeah then definitely just
keep trying
person of you hope that you wake up one day and it's bigger
hey listen I love honey there's some massive deal
knows you can
right we had a really good message here
about the importance of keeping sex alive
in a relationship from a female point of view
I think it's so important for both people
to make an effort with sex
being the only instigator and rejected
on a regular basis so this is a woman speaking here
whether their reason is because they've got an early night
get up they are tired or simply not in the mood
it can be absolutely soul destroying
when you are just trying to keep the physical love alive
I think sex is crucial to a loving, healthy relationship
and can be so much more than just a physical act
thank you for letting me say my peace
I love you guys and the real honesty on the podcast
I think that's very valid information
hearing it from a female perspective
of being the one that was rejected
I mean we don't hear that often
because I suppose we're not really speaking to
guys where they're saying
oh my partner doesn't want to have sex with me or whatever
but it also makes you think about it from my guy's point of view as well
because as we've said typically speaking
the guy is the one
initiates it more, is pushing for it more
it's probably more up for it
day to day so it's like
they will feel that too
yeah eventually if it was constantly getting rejected
yeah
it can be very nice for yourself esteem and also just thinking
like what's the point
I know exactly and I think that's actually important to keep in mind
like as a woman if you feel that you maybe do the rejection quite a lot
then try and use summer advice today to sort of spice it up and just give it a fucking good
go give them a good ride ride's your life right then how to spice up the sex life
spice it up get it going to keep it alive do you know what I think just come out of my mind
I think it's really important you never know when the last time you're going to have sexes
and I'll be at it all the time you're going to have sexes and I'll be at it all the time
Let's actually mention, like, let's say you do have a low libido, by the way, because a lot of us women do, maybe it's...
Labido?
Libido.
It's quite an official word.
Yeah, but it's what it is.
Like, your sex drive then.
Let's, there is way, there might be reasons as to why that is, by the way.
So, I believe it's worth getting your hormone balance checked.
I think that's something that you can look into.
And what's other things like alcohol can, I know the next.
day after alcohol we're all up for it or at it being well why is everyone
up for it when they're like pure smelly and hung over you're sensitive it's a
thing yeah you need the vac you need like all validation you can get sensitivity
and neediness I think um contraceptive pill can be quite bad for low of your sex drive
yeah it's a common one it is yeah I mean I'm not been on it for years and I don't
have a humongously high one but I know it's help for a lot of people yeah um but yeah
there's have a little look into it again we're not experts
so we can't really speak on this,
but that aside, let's just say there might be a reason.
But to keep it alive,
things that I've done in the past or what friends have done,
more date nights.
So date nights, dating one another,
have a nice intimate date,
like we said last episode, weekly.
After that, when you come home,
you're way more up for it then.
I also think that kind of takes you back to the stage
where, say, you're living together now,
when you do a date night like that,
You should be doing them anyway, right?
But that's what you used to do when you're first going with someone.
And that is probably when most people, I know, are sexually active with their partner
is when you're first together because you just want it all the time.
So that I feel like that kind of keeps it alive because you almost feel back to those times.
Yeah.
And you've got that excitement again.
And you've had a really nice night out together.
So you want to go home and, like, end it off in a saucy way.
Dressing up, nice underwear.
I mean, if dressing up in a full-on outfit, it's your thing.
thing then honey go for it nurse's outfit devil's outfit whatever i however would feel like a big
twat i would walkie and pissing myself yeah there's no way that i could do that seriously
no i'd be like screwing in like he he he he i would just feel like baby voice yes to go i would just
feel like i'm your child and i'm dressing up to be like i'm putting on a show for you
whereas i know you should be putting on a show but it should be section yeah i just couldn't i think
I'd piss myself.
But I do definitely think
if you've got a nice overnight
or even see if you've not got
the financial benefits
of going out on date nights a lot
make a cute dinner,
stick a candle on the table.
Yeah.
Like make a nice meal
that you maybe wouldn't typically have
during the week or whatever
like that.
Stick a nice movie on candles
round the house or whatever.
And then tell them something
naughty across the table.
Exactly a wee whisper.
But the underwear thing for me
is like, see if you want to spend
80 quid.
on a nice underwear set for me yeah feel free
it's expensive aren't they exactly you feel free you do that
I'll put it on off in two seconds off pointless that annoys me
so buy crotchless if you want me to do that and for it to be beneficial it can't
have pants in it keep them on boy I feel like shower sex is nice um I feel like
shagging in the shower especially like if you're in a hotel or whatnot
and you just get up with them one
listen they're in the shower
just go in
you're getting a wash anyway
invite yourself in
join them
they're not going to say no
well they might
no guy
in the right mind
well there you go
no guy I think
would be in the shower
and not welcome you in
with open arms
they'll be saying
soap me up baby
yeah
soop me up baby
soap me up
that smell of raspberry bubbles
is gorgeous
soop me up
right
What I will say is by the way
What I will say is
If you're having sex in the bath
Be careful
Be careful
Because before you know
That head is under
What head?
No Jessica
No
The head
With the face
Okay
Okay
Right
Right
Right
Introducing toys
into a relationship
we put a little poll out there
thoughts
it can be a brave move
for people
it can be
and it can be intimidating for a guy to
you know if you to ask a guy
to go can I bring in a sex toy
into our relationship
they'd be like what do you need that for
I'm not good enough
I know I think it definitely has a sort of
like
bit of a manhood thing
yeah I feel like a lot of guys
would definitely get the impression
then they're not really delivering on the...
But that's actually not the case at all.
Not at all.
Not for me anyway.
I think especially if people need something to spice up,
that's a good avenue to go down.
Yeah.
It feels brilliant.
It does.
Try it.
Honestly.
And then just try to stick how he's up his arshould as well
and see how he likes it.
If you know, you know on that one.
Something golden.
Yeah.
Other things that people have said,
we've mentioned,
in our sex episode episode in season two or three.
People watch porn together.
I've not done that,
but I could imagine that probably is quite kinky for you.
Like, I could imagine people get a bit of a kick out of that.
Get inspiration.
Well, I don't know, maybe you, like, imagine if you watch porn right,
you would get turned on by that.
So watching it with your partner,
I think I would find that like watching a movie
and you're watching somebody have the sex scene.
I get embarrassed by it.
I don't care who's in the room with me.
I don't like watching two people have sex in a movie whilst I've got people sat next to me.
Roll play as well, I could get in about that, for sure.
Speaking?
No, but more of like a, not like you've been a really naughty boy, like that.
But more of a, but more of a, like, masseuse role.
Having a massage and, ooh, what's that in my back?
what's that up by vagina
you're getting two and one then
you're getting a massage
and you get to chat
by the way a massage is a very good tip
for people
even a wee introduction
to the sex
shal intercourse
I like that
it's like a little bit of role play
but it's not
you just lie there
and imagine it's a masseuse
absolutely gorgeous
well someone did write into
to say
be honest about fantasies
a whole new level of spice
for you both
but I don't know what my fantasy is
no but you might not have any
being porn.
Then what?
But you might not have any
yourself or they might
or you might not speak about it.
So I feel like if you've got them then let them know.
Mm.
Share them.
The toy pole then?
The toy pole.
Toy pole.
The toy pole.
What did our listeners say?
Right.
So we asked, do you use sex toys with your partner?
We've got for sure
53%.
Wow.
That's a lot more.
I thought.
24% never
and 22% open to it
but don't know how to start.
Right.
Very interesting one.
We then asked if you do use toys
who initiated them.
Me, 33%.
My partner, 18%.
I'm going to guess me's woman.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally.
So that's very telling.
Both, 49%.
Interesting.
That is interesting actually.
it was definitely
Richard in mine
I think
he suggested it
yeah he just bought them
one day and I was like oh
I actually remember that
I was like okay
that was all for it
I just think don't knock it until you try it
I think if someone wants to do
that sort of thing as well like
as much as you would want them to respect
you not wanting to do it
I think you almost need to have the respect as well
that they want to try something
and probably they're only doing it
to make your experience better
but also remember when we talk about sex toys
here we're not always talking about a big
vibrating dildo there is
so much out there you've got those vibrating
balls you've got what they called
anal bits soakers anal beads
you've got cock rings
oh my God there's loads I don't know I mean I'm not really
been on scrolled love honey for a while
but we need to get
a nice love honey discount code by the way because we
we shout them out an awful lot
that would be a good
a good ad
I'll add that to my fucking
to do list
somebody wrote in
after the poll
saying every fucking time
we joke the toys
are the third person
in our marriage
let's be honest
it's just not as fun
without them
there you go
if you're swithering
whether to go for it
that's your answer
so going off the kinks
we've had a really
really
interesting conversation
with somebody in our messages
and we've already
thank them so much for being really open with us but yeah this is going to be amazing one of our
lovely listeners said that she now swings with her husband okay so message just saying would you
actually mind telling me a little bit more about this I had so many questions what made this
conversation come up yeah how does that make you feel do you get jealous I need to know I need
know everything. I think the big one for that is that people would wonder is how did this
conversation start? Who brought it up? We were playing a spicy quiz app on our phones. In the app we could
only see to other's answers if they were matched. One of the questions were would you introduce
another person to the bedroom and we both answered yes. We were both surprised the other was up for
it as it was never been mentioned before. Initially I know initially I meant I'd like someone to watch
and play with themselves but as conversation got deeper we realized the thought of watching one
another with someone else would turn us on dot dot dot a lot this actually made me flash back a little bit
to rich in the strippers in amsterdam and i found that well sexy we had watched the open
house series and signed up to the swing hub app swing hub app great for making sure everyone is
genuine no fake profiles we started talking to a couple on there which we was we really
clicked with, arranged to meet them three months later, drinks with potential to play, if everyone
felt okay. We got back to the hotel room, played sexy truth or dare card game, and got
started. When I see my husband lick the other woman's... See it. Pussy, it sent me wild.
No jealousy at all. I was nervous, I'd be jealous, but we had all agreed if anyone felt
uncomfy we would just say we wanted to stop communication is the only way this works
communicate every thought or feeling and if something crops up that we didn't like we just talk it
through and make sure it doesn't happen again before this i would have thought seeing my
husband touch another woman would have ruined me but it's actually been the complete opposite
i suppose you know never know to you try eh um so anyway i obviously had to go in a bit deeper
we need more how often do you bring someone else in right and do you each go off with a different
partner or you're having a threesome.
Okay, yeah.
We both have our own businesses and have three kids.
So life only allows us to play two or three times a year.
Right, okay, interesting.
Quite often we meet the same couple.
So we prefer to meet couples rather than just another woman.
We fully swap husbands and play with the woman.
By this, I've learned I am bisexual at the age of 37.
Good fucking on you, him.
My husband is straight though, so he only plays with me and the other woman.
Always in the same room, fun.
so they're having like a gang bang gang bang well don't know what would you call that so I said this is iconic and I'm really interested how did you find the couple so they already answered that question in the app and are you in an open relationship now or are you just agreed to swing this few times a year right and she put we found them through the swing a hub app it's like Tinder for Swingers I suppose they have an Instagram page if you want to look at it no we are not in an open relationship we only play together in the same room a few times a year I look at
I love talking to you about it
as none of my friends or family know
so I don't ever get a chance to speak about it ever
and by the way I did ask her permission
to speak by this podcast and she was absolutely fine
we have played sober before
quite often we play via WhatsApp videos
and picks with other couples a few drinks is good too
drunk sex is always more wild isn't it
and yeah she just then went off to say
like a few of the bits about the app
and you can't screenshot it
it's all private this app
three strikes and you like get blocked from it
that's good
And there's a swingers club in Glasgow and one in Edinburgh
and I'd need to know what this is.
Intrigued.
That is really quite interesting.
Yeah.
So, fantastic.
Absolutely love that.
And again, if that's your thing,
if you go for it.
Like she says, don't knock it to you try it.
The only thing is, it's risky, isn't it?
Like, imagine one of you just, you tried it,
then one of you just couldn't.
And I said that to you, a friend of mine's parents.
Years later went back to the person they swang with when they were younger.
Yeah.
Or you just couldn't get over it
And it just felt like you couldn't get that image
Of seeing them with someone else out your head
Yeah
Because I remember being at school
And I just always
You know you hear those mad stories at school
And it was people like
They'd a threesome with their best pal
And then they couldn't look at the best pal the same
And I thought they won her
Jesus Christ
Anyway
Right now we're just going to end with a few
Other messages that we've got
Wrap this episode up
A few random questions
So the first one
So my question was whether to keep following someone
on Instagram who you used to date
I don't know if it makes too much of a statement
if I remove him as a follower
slash stop following him
does it show that I care enough to do that
I don't want to give that impression
there's also a part of me that wants to see him doing well
and show what he's missed out on but that's toxic I know
and does he even care probably not
thoughts so she's seeing someone else now or not
she's not mentioned that but I think
the issue here is right you've been dating
someone enough for
you to think about it right
and you've still got them in social media
is removing them
just like you look as if you care
you don't want to see what they're up to
because it affects you
but do you still want to have them
because equally you're also not interested in their life anymore
and is it then awkward when you do both have a new partner
it's a weird one because I suppose I can't really relate to that
because I've been with Rich so long
that Instagram really wasn't a thing before him
so
I mean if I split from Rich now
then yeah, I would remove him
because that would be
a lot deeper than that, do you know what I mean?
And it would be hurtful to still see
I think if you've had feelings involved
and you were upset that something ended
as much as it's quite
deep, I think
you should remove them
because I think that constant reminder
is then going to be hard for you to go over in the situation.
You could mute their stories and posts.
But just stop them from being able to come up.
But equally, I do know what people mean about.
Does that look as if I care?
I think it looks like you care more if you follow them
I know that's what I mean
I don't know actually two ways
you could be like they might be thinking
she doesn't give a fuck about me she shouldn't follow me
I don't actually really think I follow anyone
that I've been involved with in the past
no I don't know if I do either
but again a few were kind of like
before like the time of it really been that big a thing
or I also feel like when I got into like
an ex-relationship
in that age that I was in I was kind of like
get rid of all the past
yeah maybe there is definitely people on my Instagram though that I've like been with before but not like dated
no I know same I haven't like you've maybe had a bit of a fling with or something like that
but I think maybe like proper seeing kind of situation relationship relationship level
I guess it depends how it ends isn't it I know if it ended like amicably then there's no
reason why you should just mute him but if it was like a real toxic ending and you still like him
and he left you then I would probably just unfollow him for your own
From this message
I get the impression
that she's maybe still
slightly interested because she said
show him what he's missed out on
you've still got a bit of interest there
you care about what he sees
thanks and feels
I agree
so my advice to you would be
remove him
because you're hanging on to that
and you want to move on
yeah totally
whereas if you don't care keep him there
it's nice to be nice
I was single all the way up until I was 33
This is a nice message by the way
I've been with my boyfriend now for nearly a year
And I'm so happy
I wish I'd stop worrying in my 20s about meeting someone
And if it was all going to work out
If anyone is in the same situation as I was
Please just relax and enjoy being free and single
Go on your holidays with your pals
Go on fun dates and make sure you have stories to tell
Later on when your life is quieter
Everything will fall into place
That's gorgeous
Couldn't agree more
I mean,
you get that printed and stuck
towel.
Yeah.
That's really nice.
Right.
Next.
Me and my current boyfriend
went to uni together in 2016.
I was 18 and had another boyfriend
at the time.
Yeah.
We'd done different courses
but some of our lectures were the same.
He was one of the few
little boys in the lecture hall
and I said to my friends,
oh my God, who is he?
She needed to know.
Couldn't stop staring at him.
I remember having a feeling
that I was so sad I didn't know him.
My friend had told me
It was her friend's ex-boyfriend.
I don't think she told me his name.
Anyway, three years later, we were in our last year of uni
and I had never seen him since that year.
I had became single a few months before,
and I said to my other friends,
remember that boy from our lecture I used to fancy.
Why do we never see him anymore?
I went home that night and downloaded Tinder
as I had been let down with people previously
and he was the first person who came up.
I was screaming, and I immediately matched with him
and the rest of history.
We've been together five and a half years.
Oh, that's lovely.
That is lovely.
and that is what you call fate
and what's for you will not go by you, sisters.
We wanted to read this one out because
we asked her permission again if we could read this out
and she said absolutely yes
because she feels like there'll be other girls
or people in the situation that can absolutely relate.
It's more about second chances and cheating.
So, hi girls, love today's episode
and it really struck a call with me.
How did we greet in the car on the way home
and everything, and I don't know why,
but something's telling me
to share my story with you,
so grab a cup.
So I've always been a bit black and white
when it comes to cheating.
If that had happened to me, I'd be a goner.
The disrespect and not being able to forget,
bringing it up after a drink and all that.
Very, very true to me.
That rings very true to me.
And then it happened.
When I tell you, I had no idea,
and my whole world was freaking shook.
We had been married for 10 years in December
and together for 12,
a bloody beautiful marriage as well.
Great sex, good job, no argument.
and the best of times
and this dumb ass
motherfucker in bracket
sorry
downloaded Tinder
he used someone else's
photos got chatting to a girl over
four days and then ghosted her
by this time he'd added her on Snapchat
in brackets ick what the
fuck does a 35 year old man need with snap
and she then
knew his identity
I don't know if she was pissed at being ghosted
or being a real girl's girl
but she found me on Instagram and told me
this was in August last year
and honestly I'm not okay most of the time
I was so black and white and now it's all very very grey
I love this man our life and everything we have built
but he has fallen ass over tit off the pedestal I had with him
he fests up straight away he owned it and sent himself to therapy
where he's been going weekly ever since
he has a history of being reckless impulsive stuff
usually money related
but has always landed on his feet and I think this is the first time
the consequences of his actions have truly been bit him in the ass
I take some, in brackets question mark, comfort
that he has realized what he's doing
and cut it all off after a few days
but I don't know if him naive to think
it's the only time he's done it.
I guess I'll never know
and if I'm saying I need to take him at face value
until he gives me a reason not to
trust him until you don't.
Yep.
I meant my marriage vows
and for me marriage is wise
if it's not him, it's not anyone.
So here I am.
Some days I'm doing okay
and others not so much.
He is trying and I know this, but I look at him differently now.
And as I said, it's such a grey area and I don't know what the future holds.
I'm trying to be more independent, which I've never really been great at,
because I've been with him since I was 21.
And prepare for the worst, hoping the best, but who knows?
If you have any advice, I'll welcome it,
but just wanted to share my experience of where I truly never ever thought I'd be in this position
and that if it was to happen, I'd be a bad bitch who would wash that man right away out of her hair,
but yet here I am.
same with a man who's disrespected me in the worst way
and feeling weak as fuck
like I'm letting myself down by doing so
but feeling loyal to my vows
and the promise I made in front of all of his friends and family
anyway thank you for coming to my TED talk
and keep on smashing it
oh so
that's a hard one
I genuinely feel that
you should absolutely not feel like you're letting yourself down
because like you say you did these vows
and you stick by them
and I think we've said before on a podcast
I do genuinely believe in second chances.
I would, however, agree with you in the sense that I would probably feel naive enough
and the fact that is this his only thing he's done because that's quite a, like going on Tinder
and a random act to just do once and in that one time so unluckily get caught.
It was like he was so, he wanted to crave this sort of attention or wanted maybe a
secret letter affair, then did it by a false identity, shat himself, go through.
to this woman
realised maybe he was making a mistake
and didn't get away with it
but he's took himself to therapy
which a lot of men wouldn't
he's got a history of being reckless
and like she says
this is the only time where she thinks
he's not fell on his feet he's been caught out
he's thinking I'm going to lose the better
that's ever happened to me
I do strongly believe in second chances
and I believe that he can come away from this
especially if it sounds like he's got underlying issues
yeah
I think second chances are
a good thing to give when
the person who needs the second chance
realizes what they've done
and has taken action
like a lot of guys in his position
would not have took themselves to therapy over now
and they just wouldn't have
they would have just thought an apology
would be enough I'm not actually physically done
anything doesn't matter
yeah that's still cheating and also
I think
as she said
it does realize what the consequence
of this could be but my advice I think if it was me and I was feeling the way she is right
now would be to just give it time yeah and I know she said she can't really look at him the
same but that might change if his actions keep changing for the positive but I think if you get to
a certain stage and it's just never going to be something you go over it might you might need
look at a different yeah totally I think it is possible to work through something like this
yeah especially if there was as you not aware but there was no physical cheating as what
it's what you're aware of
which maybe softens the blow slightly
but either way
there is some women out there
and that's honestly fair enough
they could never forgive
and that's just their decision
but if this is a decision you've done
and what you believe is right
then that is the right decision
don't feel like you're letting yourself down
just because other people feel differently
that's what you want to do
and put your trust in that decision
if he does it again
then definitely wipe the flipping floor with him
get him to fuck
Yeah.
Right, well, I think that's us covered all bases of relationships.
Whoa, there's a lot to unpack.
I know.
If we were having this chat earlier over coffee,
but we were quite intrigued in,
if you've found out somebody's having an affair,
like, how have you found out?
If you've been cheated on,
have you sat and digested this information
and come back with a big, like, revenge?
Or have you, your head's gone
and you've straight away messaged and rang them?
like I really like hold my hands up to these women that can really
watch something go on for a week's if they know someone's having a fair
and then get all their information then boom yeah I couldn't I'm a hothead
hmm I think I could do that what weeks
maybe not weeks but I would always approach the situation calmly would you yeah oh no
I'd be I'd be a better like I've just to let you know I've just found out yeah
that this has happened
and I'm just letting you know
that I'm just about to pack my bags
and I'll be away
and you'll never see me again
and I'll put the keys through the letterbox
and that's us over
so have a nice life
iconic
I could definitely hold that together
obviously inside I'd be like
yeah totally
but I would like to know
I would like to think I could act like that
but my emotions would be gone with me
again depends on the situation
I know exactly
but what I would like to know is
if you have
found out that your partner's cheating
have you messaged
or contacted
the other cheatee
yeah if they've got a partner
or told their partner
that they were being cheated on
with your partner
are you having an affair and you've been caught
yeah tell us
we won't tell anyone it's anonymous
and just tell us like any
mad revenge shit you've done even if it's
maybe not as deep as in an affair
or it can be a past boyfriend
story. Yeah, something that crazy that you've done just to get some revenge because we've got
some great, I've got some great ones from my friends that they've done, but we're going to save
this for series five. Can you believe it? Yeah, five. So I message it, you've got a few
weeks. Well, that was lovely. That was great. I hope you guys enjoyed that one and again
found it helpful. An extra long one for you before we leave you for good.
We're coming back. I'm joking. Right, well, we'll see you on Friday. If we see you on Friday and if not,
We'll see you next Tuesday.
Bye!