A Lot On Your Plate - S5 Ep19: Help! I'm unhappy in my relationship
Episode Date: January 14, 2025This week on ALOYP Jess gives us a pregnancy update as we're getting closer to the big day! She gives us an insight into what 'Colostrum Harvesting' is and how it's apparently 'liquid gold'...have you... mums listening ever done this? We also chat about different generations and how we think us, millennials, are the last generation to keep the good old days alive! And as always, we dive into a couple of listeners dilemmas, covering relationship struggles and a brutal dumping over text! Enjoy💖 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hi, guys, welcome back.
Have you missed us?
We are back recording some fresh episodes and I'm still here.
I've made it. I'm not in labour.
Yay.
Still pregnant.
Yes, still pregnant.
Still big, mama.
So first time back in the studio in 20, 25.
So it is.
It's feeling good, feeling fresh.
We've got Murray with us and we've got Graham today.
Who's annoying us so much already.
So we need Alan back.
Bring back Alan.
Just kidding.
How are you, Zoe?
I'm good.
Thanks, Jess.
How are you?
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm surviving.
Had a nice break
Yeah
We were off for quite a few weeks
So it felt nice actually to
Have some time off the pod actually
And just kick back and relax
I don't think we've done any kickbacks
Or relaxing of you
Well yeah I would say
I'm relaxing but it's not relaxing
Does that make sense?
You're doing chill vibes
But you don't feel relaxed
Everything hurts
Yeah
But how's Cookie doing?
Cookie's good
But she's a lot of work
Yeah
I feel like I've not really done much
over the last few weeks
but at the same time
I've noted a minute
do you know what I mean?
Yeah
I have to say
like I do think
it prepares you for motherhood
a puppy
yeah I do think
pets in general are a bit like that
because you've got a responsibility
no sleep
constantly watching them
remembering to feed them
yeah
walk them
take them out
but she's good
she's so cute
she is so cute
hurts
see when she's annoying me
I then just think
I know you can't even
you don't know you're doing bad
yeah it's okay
I'm like come on
It's okay.
I know.
I'm like that with Winnie when she's climbing up everything
and being chaotic
and pick her up
but I kiss her.
I'm like, stop that.
Stop that, perfect, breath.
Love you.
The other day,
she had a bit of a runny bum
and I was getting quite frustrated with her
because I was just like,
oh, like your toilet train
and I thought you were going to do better
and then I'd pick it up
and I'd be like, oh, I love you.
I love you so much.
I'm like, you're the best girl.
She is.
Then you feel bad.
I need to sniff her.
I need to sniff her breath.
They just, I feel.
I feel like because she's still quite chaotic
I don't really take her out much
like when we met up the other day
I would have brought her but then I'm like
oh it's just too much
and I feel like I can't relax
in anyone else's house when she's there
yeah you'll get like that though
she's been puppy school hasn't she
so I did I want anyone with Mark Dobby
his company is my canine
which quite a lot of people recommended
so I thought he'll hit him up
and it was so good with her and he loved her as well
oh that's good no wonder so cute
but we just did like
sit lie down
down a bit of crate training, but more so that she knows that I'm the boss.
Right.
So it's like to build the communication of like you only do stuff.
So you're there as well then?
Yeah, me, him and her.
Oh, right.
So he's kind of showing me things to do and then I put it into practice with her.
Right, that's good.
Yeah.
So I've got five sessions with him, but he likes to leave like 10 days or two weeks in between
so that you can put everything we've just done into practice and then it's like on to the next thing.
And it's like a test when you go back.
But he obviously says things like
you would say sit
but he says to say sit
and then once you sit and you say like yes
and then you give a treat
so she starts to recognise that we like yes
that little noise
so then when we were doing like lie down
and then can I create training and things like that
I was still always having to do yes
and now when you do that
she's like oh oh hello what's that
but she loves treats so much
that it was like you've got it easy
because she will do anything you say for that treat
whereas other dogs if they're not that food
driven which are not always
or if they're just not bothered about treats as such
quite hard and I'm like, she's clearly my
fucking door, aren't she? Fucking else.
She's really. She's actually skinny
though. The vet said
you can feel her ribs a bit much
so we have to feed her more
because she's active. They just shed loads of weight
when they're young because they're talking about everywhere
and the pouchy said the food were giving her
that pouch is meant to be for the day
like you can either do it in four meals or three meals
but just that one pouch
and she guzzles it in like 10 seconds
and I've always thought is that enough
but our first vet appointment
she was like make sure you don't overfeed her
because people do to do that with puppies
and you don't want to do that either
so we were then about like okay let's just stick to it
and then the next vet was like just feed her more
because she's too skinny
oh I'm like fucking make messaging
and also we're giving her half a pouch for each meal now
and then because we're training her
there's loads of treats and we dentists
and that so I'm just not being precious but the food of the treats
and it's better fattening it up and then
needing to walk her more to get it off than being skin and bone
exactly. Because I showered on and she was like
a wee rat. Oh, when the bag gets all wet. I know she hated
it. My God, I've got really being spayed on Monday
and I just can't bear the fact that she's going to be put to sleep
I hate that. I know.
And she's having a whole womb taken out. That just feels weird
for me but... How do they do that?
So they cut her stomach and take it out.
And will she be, like, is it a recovery for her?
Yeah, she has to wear like a little suit for a week.
What?
Or a cone, but the cone thing will not go well with her.
But with the boys, their balls just sort of like get evaporated.
Yeah.
But, yeah, with Wilson used to have golden bollocks.
Do you remember that? Yeah. But yeah, with Willie, she's actually going to have, it's called being spayed.
Yeah.
I think for a male, it's neutered.
Anyway, yeah, so that's on Monday.
You have to leave her from eight or two.
I hate that.
What's she going to do when she wakes up?
Like, help.
I know.
I know because you need to get cookie dressed as well.
So what it's called dressed.
Because they're periods, don't they?
Dogs, proper.
Nappies.
Fuck that, by the way.
Yeah.
I just can't have that.
Like, I love me fluffy dogs and all that.
But see, when it comes to, like, pure dog things.
Yeah.
It's not for me.
Well, do you know what?
One of the big perks about being pregnant, I'm going to say, is not having a period for so long.
I was just thinking about that because I've got mine right now.
It's amazing.
And I spent the toilet and I was just thinking, I wonder if it's worth it.
Just for that.
Yeah, there's lots of downsides of pregnancy.
I want to say downsize, but, you know, things that are changing.
Hard moments.
But there's some very good positives.
Yeah.
And that is one of them.
But I've been getting all my hospital bag stuff ready.
And if you're over on Patreon, guys, or if you're pregnant or in the future, you find yourself pregnant and you are confused.
just as I am, head over to Patreon because in our chat we've had, I basically posted in a bump
pick and I said, right, I think I need to pack my hospital bag. Can everyone list some stuff? And
everyone was very, very, very helpful. So if you are clueless like me, go and head over there
because it's very good chat. And I'm going to be using that list. So anyway, yeah, I'm packing
my hospital bag this week. Maybe we'll do another episode if we have time close to the day.
because I think that might be quite useful for people just to refer back to, like, essentials and things.
But things that, you know, I never even thought of, that people are saying.
I'm like, oh, fucking hell, that's really cool.
I mean, you sent me your Amazon basket.
Yeah, and you were like, what?
Absolutely, yeah, that all looks perfect.
Good luck to you.
But anyway, referring back to periods, you bleed a lot when you obviously give birth for weeks and weeks afterwards.
Do you, right?
I didn't know that.
Well, I wouldn't have known that either, to be honest.
And then you bleat, I think it's about, well, I could be wrong, everyone's different, but I was speaking to my friend yesterday and she bled for about four weeks, but not like a consistent period. It's just...
That sport in here, yeah. So, anyway, there's a lot of discussion around the type of pads or pull-on pants, adult nappies that you use and that people are quite passionate about them.
Right.
So I've picked certain, like, a mixture of things, anyway. So I'll let you know which ones I like the best.
Well, you've just reminded me actually that
I think I don't really watch
Sophia and Chinzia, much you've said before
but you know how on YouTube just
keep going and I just keep up and I'm working a lot
and Chinsea was actually wearing pants
as period protection
there's like a new
I think there's a new one that've come out
and they're meant to be really good I just don't know if I'm into that
Yeah, they're meant to be brilliant, really absorbent
and you can just wash them.
Guys, I'm not sure.
No, I know, I'm not sure, but
imagine how, I hate, I really don't like tampons.
I've never liked them.
I don't like anything.
They're a lot cleaner than pads, but,
guys, this shit we have to do.
Why don't you get to go through this?
It's unfair.
But we're so used to it, though, that's the thing.
We're so used to it, and we'll do it.
I just think by 20-20-sex, surely don't need to do this anymore.
And surely it doesn't take nine months to a child.
Well, you can take a pill.
and not have a period or have the coil.
Not good speed, though, is it?
That's what I mean, it's not that it's,
well, it's up to you what you do,
but naturally your body has a period every month
and that will never change, I don't think.
I wonder if, see if you're so set or not wanting kids.
Yeah.
Can you get your...
Hysterectomy?
Can you get that?
I don't know by choice.
I don't know.
So that you just don't get a period?
Possibly, because I suppose men can have hysterect,
no, not hysterectomy, what's it called, Murray?
Vesectomy.
Vesectomy.
It's all the septimies.
I've been seen a lot of chat actually on, you know, when you have children, and it's like, right, we're stopping now.
So the mother's expected usually to go on the pill.
And she's like, no, I'm not fucking going on a pill, whatever.
And you're going to have a vasectomy.
And there's so many people kicking off in like men, obviously.
kicking off like no but that can be reversed you know
not for a woman but it can for a man
and I think that makes so much more sense
100% I don't know if it's 100% accurate though is it
I feel like I've seen that for it but is anything
there's always a risk yeah
see if you don't want it
put a sock on it exactly
control your mend in there
that I mean speaking of
speaking of babies
oh gee
you have all seen that
Jelly is pregnant.
Another baby.
Another baby.
We're going to have three babies
in the crazy baby chat.
We are.
Guys, honestly,
over the freaking moon.
Over the moon, honestly.
We're going to have a baby bestie.
I know.
That's cute.
We honestly speak about it all the time.
So when we went to see Wicked,
she said to me,
meet me in Costa.
And I was like, okay.
And she went, get me a hot chocolate.
I thought, okay, got a hot chocolate ready.
She was late.
And she was like, I really need to meet you, like, at least 30 minutes before the film starts
because I want to catch you from Miami.
Because she just got back from Miami.
Yeah, that's right.
So I was like, okay, fine.
Obviously, she was late, because that's typical Jilly style.
And then I saw her walking in, and then she just threw this baby scan at me.
But obviously, I'm so confused.
I'm like, I've just dropped my baby.
Why is my baby scan here?
Like, that's happening in my head in, like, a spit second.
Yeah.
So I looked down, like, what the fuck?
Then I looked up at her, and she's laughing.
I'm like,
what?
Wait, what?
And then I just...
And I was having a really bad week that week, wasn't I?
Yeah, I was very emotional.
It was just, shit was...
And honestly, I just burst into tears, like, are you serious?
And then I obviously clicked that we were pregnant at the same time
in that she was actually quite far gone.
I mean, by the time this comes out, she's way...
Over halfway.
And, yeah, it was just brilliant.
And I thought, oh my God, we're going to have babies together, what the fuck?
And it was like a bit of a relief feeling of...
of...
I'm not doing this alone.
Yeah, and I also know that she looked at me
a bit like, well, she's been messaging me
every day, like, because she's behind me, she's like,
is this normal, is this normal?
And then I was the same with Bex, because Lex is ahead
of me, so I was like, is this normal.
So we've all got each other, it's quite nice.
Yeah, that is nice.
And yeah, she's due...
Maytime?
Yeah, yeah.
So there'll be three months between them, which is nothing.
Nothing.
I can't believe how quick it's going to go for us for her.
I know.
You know what I mean?
I know so anyway congratulations Julie and Andy we're over our friggin tits for you both we're so excited
I just think it's so nice and I'm surprised at how like yay I feel oh why because I'm just so not
maternal yeah but same no I know but it's actually nice like I feel like it's not as a family
yeah I still a party life yeah I love this wholesome family shirt yeah like give me it all
I also think I'll be so prepared
if my day ever comes
Honestly I was thinking that all the time
So basically in our chat
Me and Zoe
There's a six of us in it
And anyway
This is something that I thought
We could discuss in the poll as well
Because there's certain lingo
That I now say in the chat
To Becks and Jilly
That three of you
Don't really know what I'm talking about
And when I thought back about it
I thought that is so interesting
There's so many things
That I think we should list
That
What the first
fuck does that mean?
So I had no idea what induced meant, what forceps meant.
I knew what a C-section was, but I didn't really know the whole ins and outs of it.
Yeah.
I never knew what the word percentile meant.
That word has been thrown at me so much.
What is that?
In the space of a few months in your like second trimester.
The percentile is the midwife measures your bump.
And it's like a means percentage, but it's like an average percentage of what you are,
like the angle of your bump.
of so they put you in like a graph and they're like you're measuring at the 97 you'll hear like the
90 something a lot and when I first heard it at my scanner I was like what the hell does that mean
and then I went away and spoke to a few friends I've had babies and they're like oh yeah that's good
that's average or below average above average whatever just to let you know or any mom's out there
that my bump is measuring way over the 97 percentile which is high chunky baby junkie baby
but what it means is
they literally just get a tape measure
from under your boob
all the way down to your pelvic bone
what the fuck does that mean
more than likely
anyone that I spoke to
that's had a growth scan
if their babies
bump seems small or big
their baby has come out
bigger than what they thought
or a lot smaller
so it's all my friends
keep telling me to relax
don't worry about it
so I've got a growth scan on Friday
I also think you see people
and you're like well
they're going to have a big baby
and then it's not
no like the bump
doesn't necessarily mean the baby's big
Well, no, you've got all your fluid, you've got your placenta, you've got a whole other organ in there.
Yeah.
You've got your uterus, like everything is just bigger, expanded.
It doesn't necessarily mean that the baby is filling everything in there.
But when she was touching me, because their back, if you're looking on YouTube, their back is, their back is here and their head is now down.
So she was like...
Just it curdled that way.
Yeah, she was like, and feel there's a lot of baby there.
I honestly still will never understand how a baby can be in there right now.
Like, that baby could come out and be fine right now.
Oh yeah, totally.
Going to just come at?
Yeah, please.
So she was like, usually like if I feel a stomach when it's whatever, there's a lot of fluid,
but I feel a lot of solidness.
There's a big baby.
But again, maybe it's just right at the way they sat.
Right at the front, like everything's behind the baby.
Yeah.
Who would have spoken thought, guys, that we're talking about baby shit
if you listen to our podcast in season 2 3, not me.
That's for a fact.
Anyway, if it wasn't going to happen now, when was it going to happen, really?
You're not getting any younger, do you know what I mean?
Unsure.
But listen, there is so much stuff that I would love to listen back to when I've had this baby
and go back to the episode of what to expect when you're expecting,
which is a really good episode to listen to you guys, by the way,
if you have no fucking idea what you're doing.
Because it just makes, it's just quite relatable because...
Well, you're just kind of going through the motions,
so it means that if anyone's not sure if what they're feeling's normal,
then someone else is experienced it.
but equally you might have a wonderful pregnancy where you don't feel any of those symptoms
I know lucky lucky but yeah just all the lingo and stuff it's just like I never this was never
been in my vocab all these months ago and now I'm like saying it like you should know what
I'm talking about what I was saying another day relates to this see when you want something
I know you didn't necessarily want this so bad right but if you want something see once you get it
it becomes your norm so quickly like maybe
my mum were talking about like, can you believe like
there's this wee puppy, like we wanted it for so long
and blah, blah, blah, and now that you've got
it, it's not that you're ungrateful, it's just that
it becomes your norm. Yeah, you kind of
forget what life was before. Yeah, and
even though before I had
cookie, I would look at anyone my wee fluffy puppy
and be like, I want that so bad. Now that I've got it,
I feel lucky, but I'm not every day, like
I can't believe my life. Yeah.
And I was relaying it to when you really want to
drive. Yeah. As soon as you drive, you feel like
you've been driving forever. Yeah. You're like, how
how did I survive without driving? And I think
that's what you probably feel like now.
It's like you can't believe
that one day you didn't know any of this stuff
and now you probably forget that
other people don't know. Exactly.
And I am sitting there and my friend came over yesterday
and gave me loads of things like breast
pump shit because I want to
I can't believe I'm even saying all this but I want to
harvest my colostrum which is something that I never
ever knew what meant. Is that when you do it
before the baby's here? Yes, just in case
they struggle to latch.
Another word to add to this.
latch.
I don't what latch means when their mouth around your navel?
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so she gave me the syringes to try and do it,
and I was asking her, like, how the hell do I do it?
Do I use a breastful?
A syringe on your apple?
No, you just squeeze it.
She would say she learned it all off YouTube.
She's like, you massage your breath and then you would squeeze it out.
What do they call it?
Is it like liquid gold or something?
It's like the really good stuff that comes free breast milk.
Anyway.
See, in 10 years, we'll all be drinking it.
I know.
Keep us young.
injecting it into my hip-in-eye bags.
Shit, that's good I do it.
That's a new business finish right there.
Get those fucking tits out and get that in.
We're on to something.
We don't need sperm.
Whatever that's sperm shit is.
Salmon sperm.
Get my cholesterol in your lip-in-eye bags, honey.
Anyway, she was coming over and I was saying to where they're like,
oh, you've got a sterolite.
a sterilizer, I was like, a what?
She was like, yeah, and I obviously know you need to sterilise stuff,
but I didn't, I'm planning on breastfeeding at the start,
so I didn't even think about that,
and she's like, oh no, you need to sterilise your breast pump, fucknose.
Sterilize your nipple?
But did you know you can get sterilising tablets now
and sterilising liquid that you can put in cold water
that can sterilise things in 15 minutes?
So I was like...
Oh, and then you'll just do it in the sink or whatever.
Yeah?
I got room for any more contraptions in my kitchen.
I know.
I'm sorry.
I feel like I've seen a starrise.
sterilizer machine before and all the bottles sit in it and it's a big thing.
I don't have time for that and I don't have space for that.
No space.
I don't.
So anyway, so there's that.
And then I was asking, I like, so what's he feeding now?
Like, what's he sleep?
And then I'm sitting there thinking, how do I know when to feed this baby?
How do I feed this baby?
What was if they don't take a bottle?
Like, I said to a, you know, in the daytime, where does it sleep?
Does it sleep in its crib?
Is it sleep in one of those docker-top things?
Like, I don't know any of the stuff.
And one thing I will say that a lot and lot of people have said to me is
this, what I'm saying right now is totally normal to panic.
But as soon as that baby comes out, it's like a, you just know.
You just know what to do.
And I'm trying my best to calm my mind and thinking, you know what I'm like.
I'm quite thorough with things.
I've researched things quite well.
And maybe I overwhelm myself a bit too much because I look at things and I don't want to be a perfect mom
because I absolutely know I don't want to be that either.
I want to just be the best I can be
but I know that maybe
I'm just trying to do things
in other ways when actually I think
it just comes naturally to you
100% I just need to chill the fuck out
I know because I know I'll know what to do
I think because of your job
in your brain you love to research
and have like the best of the best options
the best of the best like products
for you baby everything
whereas you just don't need that shit
no I know a human just
obviously you need stuff
and I obviously reading all that
all the formula
like I want to know
and it's not
I don't mean it in a way of
and I know you guys
all know what I'm like as well
it's not because I want it to be like
you want the base of the base
No it's not that
it's just more of like
I like to be knowledgeable on things
so then I'll read it
and I'll be like right well
if I'm giving them a formula
what formula do I'll take
then I'm sitting reading loads of shit
and I overweigh myself too much
you need to just think people
going to ask them pick up a for
off the shelf and that's what they give their baby and the baby's fine.
So a lot of my stuff that I'm doing, I'm just trusting friends' advice and...
See, as soon as you get home with the baby in there,
maybe needing to go down for a sleep and you're thinking, should I put them there or there?
Just text a friend, just get a baby and say, what's the best?
Yeah.
You've got people around you that can tell you, but also you will know.
That dock-a-ta thing, I think you can leave them in.
You can take that with you around the house anyway.
Yeah, I think you can just move that about.
so I think babies do sleep in that a lot.
I didn't even know about car seats.
Like, you know if you take your car seat into your house?
I didn't know you can't leave them in the car seat
for longer than a couple of hours.
Why not?
I don't know.
I don't know any of this shit.
Is it causing it to be lying flat
and they're not lined flat in that?
Fuck knows.
Anyway, I don't want anyone messaging me
a load of shit, please.
Just don't overwhelm me anymore.
I'll figure it out myself.
Yeah.
Thank you.
But I'm just voicing my opinion here
because I'm sure everyone else thought this at some point.
How are you to know that?
Anyway, sorry guys
that was a lot of word from it
but I'm pretty certain we can all relate
when you feel overwhelmed with this
and going back to you
you're going to be a freaking expert
you are
I know I am
you're going to be an actual expert
I think it will be
I actually do know quite a bit about it
because obviously I'm like I'm an auntie
to Jason's sister's wee girls
I don't know if I could
confidently change an appie myself
until I had to do it
But I've seen it happen a million times recently.
Yeah.
Over the last two and a half years, I've seen it happen.
So I kind of know what to look for.
And I know the process of like wiping maybe a bit of a sugar cream if there's a bit of an ash, then a nappy.
Yeah.
Like I know sort of things like that.
And I've seen products.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
But I think if it came to me, I'd still be like, like I'm not picking it up because I need to know.
I just send the background.
Yeah.
But.
You're quite going to remember in.
things as well. Yeah. And also, my brother is also 13 years younger than me. Yeah.
So even though I don't remember him as much of being a baby, I've still seen it around the house,
if you know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe that just helps. It'll all come
to you and you're fine. Do you know what? And that's why I keep telling myself, you know, when I've
said to things like, you know, if I have to, my birth, not my birth plan, but you know, my idea of
what I want to happen doesn't happen.
I've just got to chill out and trust and know that everything in my life that I've done so far,
I've done it as well as I can.
I know I'm going to be a really good mum.
I just know that.
I know that.
And Rich is going to be amazing.
Like, I just know it.
So I just need to chill out the fuck out and shut up.
Guys, buying your own house and flat can be so stressful.
So stressful.
And I feel like as adults were just supposed to know all this stuff.
Did you know that it's considered one of the most stressful things you can ever do in your life?
I can believe that by the way
all the paperwork lawyers and all that
it's too much
it's a total mind field
well don't worry I have a solution
that will make everything feel easier
just let our sponsors
Watermans handle it all
will they pack my boxes too
not quite Lizzie
but they'll definitely take care
of everything else
perfect
I thought we'd quickly talk about
Generation Beta
which kind of links slightly into
any
what we're talking about babies
but any babies that are born from the 1st January 2025,
it's a whole new generation, Zoe.
Do you find that crazy?
I just think the generations are fucking weird.
Like, why we could be one day apart
and we're a different generation?
So the one before this was Generation Alpha, I think.
I don't think it was A, Generation A,
which I think standard stood for Alpha.
I'm pretty certain.
Anyway, so I was having a little think about it
in my deep thoughts, and I was like,
oh, wonder what this generation's going to be?
like because there is such a divide between a millennial and Gen Z, I think.
Yeah, I could eat.
But Generation Alpha and Generation Beta, or Generation A and B, more so than likely have
millennial parents.
Yeah.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
Who are the last generation that lived without Internet and Internet.
Mm-hmm.
And I just find that really interesting because although I like the Internet,
you would never catch my sister deleting TikTok.
No.
Because it's all she's ever known.
She isn't aware of this overwhelmed feeling of...
Maybe she is, but she's not aware that it's happening to her.
That makes sense.
The answer to her doesn't to delete that?
Yeah.
We played out when we were younger.
We did lots and lots of things that children these days don't.
And I feel like this next generation is...
I read it's going to be fully integrated with AI.
No.
Their whole life is going to...
to be AI.
I hate that so much.
It's going to be surrounding them in many ways.
I hate it too.
But their parents are people that haven't ever grow up with that.
And can't hate it?
Yeah.
So I feel like, and I could be wrong, this is the last chance for the next generation and
beyond to kind of give that child a sense of how we used to live.
That's exactly what I think.
Yeah.
I think everyone who's having kids now
needs to get them out to play
we need to get it back to what it used to be
we need to try and I think it is going to do that
I do genuinely believe that me and Richard
will have that of course I'm
I'm not going to be one of those people where there's no screen time
listen I used to love playing on the Sims
I used to love playing on my play since then you can't avoid all that
and also as a parent you need to be able to like
shut off for half an hour and just set them in front
or something you just need to limit how often it is
that's all social media is maybe what
they need to be limited on but my mom used to limit that I just have to dial up the internet to
go on MSN but it was still social media it was a different kind and then bBM came in and then
my space and bebo that's still the same as facebook and instagram it's just what it was back then
it's just less consuming yeah um so I just feel like my job as a parent is going to be to try and find
that healthy balance rather than my sister who who who who
who's only ever lived with the internet.
That's all kind of she really knows.
And I'm not saying that that's a bad way either.
My sister's a beautiful, intelligent, wonderful person
and she'll be parenting in her own way.
But what I mean is I just think it's quite nice to think that we can show our children.
Yeah, we still have the thought of how good was that when you didn't know any of this.
Yeah.
And everything was a bit more blissful and all that.
They just don't know it at all.
So if we don't keep it alive, it's just going to die.
And it will die one day.
Yeah, it will.
But not until we audied.
But I find that fascinating.
So I think that our...
Same but I think it's going to be fully integrated with AI.
Like I would actually love for everyone in Scotland say,
who's our age range to get in a room
and say, we all need to come together.
Yeah.
And make our kids go out to play on the streets.
Then the problem is people don't think the streets are safe anymore.
I'm just about to say that, yeah.
And as a parent, would I?
You will be worried?
I was thinking this.
You know, if my daughter wants to go,
I say daughter, daughter or son,
wants to get into a car
with someone that just passed their test
at 17 years old, are you fog?
Sorry.
No, I know, by the way.
But then we want to do it.
Because I did that, my mum, let me.
And I was like, you'll stop being so strict,
Mum, let me get in.
I know.
Now I get it.
I get the worry.
Same.
You think I'm going to let them go on a chat room?
Or like, even on a night.
Even on a night out, I'm like, my heart would be in my mouth the whole time.
So maybe we're going to be more strict.
I know.
I don't know how this is going to play out, Zoe.
Maybe it'll be me saying, you're going to just fucking let her go out.
Why do we keep saying her and she?
I know.
I think it's a girl.
I think I've got a sick sense.
I don't know, guys.
A girlie?
Or maybe a wee laddie.
I feel like I'm a boy, mum.
Who soon, see?
I don't know now, I don't know now.
But anyway, I just thought I'd mention that
because I find it very interesting, this whole...
This world of...
Just the world evolving and being older now
and seeing the generations
ahead of, behind you, and ahead of you.
Yeah.
The differences.
It's crazy.
It's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.
That's a crazy world we live in.
Anyway, we blabbed on there, sorry.
I have nothing to say anyway.
I honestly have done nothing.
because I just think
when you're training a pup
you're quite stuck to your house
but that's great for you though
because you've always wanted a little puppy
now you've got a
right so
a couple of dilemmas for the listeners
shall we've got some really good dilemmas
and do you know what I was thinking so I remember when we did
season one and two and obviously this is called a lot on your plate
and a big part of the podcast was
sending what's been
a lot on your plate.
Are you going to say we're changing the name or something here?
God, no, no, no.
No.
And we got a few in, but not like we do now.
Now, when we ask, we get really big dilemmas.
People's actually wanting us to help them.
So I feel like we're doing something right is what I wanted to say.
Oh, that took a positive turn.
I thought we were going back to, we need to get the food back and all that.
No, no, no.
Okay, great.
Love that for us.
I agree.
I think that it's good that we're...
We must be helping in some way.
I think so.
I just think when you're in a bit of a rut or have got a sticky situation
and someone talks about it, you just get a different perspective.
Yeah.
Or even if you've shared it, you instantly feel better.
So even someone writing it into us, they might just feel like,
I just get that off my chest.
And by the way, you don't have to...
We don't have to read it out in the podcast.
We will ask you if you want us to reply to you personally
or if we can share it with the listeners if they're feeling the same.
Like we're here to support you no matter what, FYI.
Right.
For your information.
Yeah.
So we had a couple here.
Take it away.
And also if you do like this sort of chat,
we do do this most Fridays on Patreon.
Hey Jess and Zoe.
You always seem to be my go-to for all things life brings.
That's cute.
Brinks a fucking lot.
You both inspired me to move to Glasgow.
Wow.
To get a new job and be with my boyfriend, I am so happy I've done it.
Love that.
That's nice, isn't it?
I remember a previous episode when you discuss relationships getting hard and having to really try to work through it before breaking up.
What episode was that?
That was a great one.
Was it spiced up your sex life or...
I think it may have been spaced up with Shakespeare's life.
Or the one before or after that?
I'm sure.
Look on YouTube.
It's a really good episode.
Unfortunately, I found myself in a situation where me and my lovely boyfriend are unhappy,
but it's also due to outside factors.
My mental health, his new venture of going self-employed,
his family being very dependent on him and my job shifts being very draining.
I guess what I'd love to know is, do you have any advice to bring us back together?
As we both want to get back to how things used to be,
but I'm a bit stuck on how to get there.
Always appreciated, happy new year when it comes.
Aw.
That's a hard one also, I think.
It's the episode that's called A Relationship.
doubt's normal.
That's the one.
Just came back to me there.
It's all come in bed to me.
I can't sound breathless.
It's just dog allergies and all that, you know.
I think the self-employed thing's really a big thing to take from that.
That our boyfriends went self-employed because I feel like when I did that,
we definitely, a rough patch is probably dramatic.
But just like clashed a lot more.
because I was in the house loads,
whereas I used to be out Monday and Friday.
So you've not got the same missing each other
or a full day to catch up on at night.
You're literally there on top of each other.
He was used to being in the house on his own.
Nobody was saying going to get fucking dishes done.
You know what I mean?
You were used to living sort of separate life.
Obviously, it might not be at home,
and you might not either,
but he'll be feeling stressed and, like, the unknown to him.
But I think what you just said there,
a lot of other people will relate to that, though.
working from home being on top of each other
I know so I would like
almost
because I'm coming from the other end of it
I'm coming from his perspective like just give me a bit of
breathing space with it because
even though I didn't feel absolutely
stressed because it's not really me
as person I was always just like
when we are good about it I felt very defensive of
it's new to me and I don't know what I'm doing and
it's stressful even though I didn't necessarily
feel like I was giving off stressed vibes
yeah so he might not but he's probably just got a lot going on in his head yeah do you know what I mean
and obviously that doesn't mean that you should sit and be unhappy but just maybe like
take that one out of the equation because it will get easier and as she said her family is very
dependent on him so he's maybe feeling the stress of that as well yeah top of going self-employed
but I think from that what I pulled from it was where you said you both want to get back to where
you're going yeah that's a really good place to start if you both want it then
you absolutely can work to it.
And you've called him your lovely boyfriend, you've moved here.
It's going to be a lot of pressures and a lot of change for both of you.
Going back to what we said in the episode, having that time for each other where once a week,
go and have a date night, whether it's something inside the house or out, have that special time with each other, staying off your phones,
just having nice, normal conversations, I promise you that spark will come back.
And also, this is just a phase.
Every single relationship is never going to be plain sailing for that amount of years.
you're going to have a blip, you're going to have peaks and troughs
and it's about being working together
and like you say, you both want to make it work
and that is an amazing starting point.
Yeah, that's the difference.
Usually someone's kind of pulling back.
Yeah.
And like detaching.
I think the same.
I think you just need to go back to being like,
what did we really enjoy doing together before
we both felt a bit distant and stressed
and then just started doing those things again?
Yep.
Because when that kind of happened to us,
I felt like I just, I was in my laptop constantly
literally for morning tonight
no time for nothing else
worked the weekends
everything because I was trying to get a routine
and that that needs to stop
so then it is about spending more time together
yeah that's all you need to do
also communication having a conversation with each other
and just saying right
however you want to communicate it
that's up to you
but just saying to him like I really don't want
us to I can feel this going a certain way
let's try and put a stop to it
and how can we do this together
I also think even if you have a chat about it
and it's like quite a deep emotional chat
that actually puts you 10 steps ahead
because then you're both like
you get it all out don't you?
And you feel quite sad
that you both feel that way
and you're about like
I love you so much right now
because I feel sad
like for you and for me
sometimes you need to have that
not blazing wow
because that doesn't need to always happen
but sometimes you just have to have
that sort of heated emotional
debate
well if this isn't working to be just leaving all that
and you feel so sad
and you're like what I didn't mean that
and then you do have a period of time
where you're both really trying,
you don't want to feel that way again,
and actually that just puts shunning back
to like a normal cycle, I think.
Yeah.
But if you both try anyway,
you both do the things that you say you'll change.
The effort does need to come from both sides
or else it will fall apart.
Yeah, and also, you're just, like I said,
you're going through change here.
This is a whole life change.
There's a lot of changes that ways.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's just about adjusting
to that new life
and how you're going to do it together.
I think, I think you'll get through this.
It sounds like a really nice relationship, very healthy.
Absolutely.
Ooh.
We have a lot of mother-in-law chat here.
People hate their mother-in-laws, by the way.
I just honestly can't relate.
We've got a lot of...
A lot.
Advice on how to handle awkward mother-in-law.
Disregarded gifts sent to my baby from my husband's dad's family, her ex.
Baby was sent beautiful handmade soft toys and mother-in-law was rude
and only wanted baby to have the toys she had bought for her.
This had been a reoccurring.
theme with her since I'd been part of the family despite his parents being separated for 20
years, Loll. How would you handle this? I'm finding it more difficult now with the baby and with her
wanting to be number one grand. She's referred to husband's stepmom as a witch in front of our
niece and I'm worried she does the same in front of our child. I just wish she could be happy
and not get her back up at any mention of dad slash stepmom. It's becoming increasingly challenging
now as I don't want mother-in-law to pass on her negativity towards dad's step-mom to our daughter.
if we ever confronted her about any of this
it would not go down well
but we feel we are walking on eggshells
around her a lot of the time trying not to mention them
my husband just accepts this is how she is
should I be the same
any help will be appreciated
love the pod
we are beast
I'm a bit conflicted because part of me is like
just ignore her and let her be petty
and bitter
and don't react and just like brush it
away
and part of me's like
have a serious conversation say I don't want that I'm a child I'm not sure do you know it's it's
feeling it's giving very insecure vibes it's just given unhappy better petty insecure like
yeah moved on and doesn't really need to be that way no there doesn't need to be a
rivalry between who's the better granny I mean I can't relate that because I haven't got
that but I know but I could relate to that situation if it was happening because I do
have that dynamic.
Yeah, me too.
But, um, okay, so let me try and put that in my shoes then.
And it would be my mum being bitter towards my stepmom, right?
Yep.
No, wouldn't.
No, it would be Richard's mom being better towards.
Richard's stepmom?
Yeah.
Ooh.
I'd let them hash it out.
That's between them.
I know.
I think when it is your partner side,
you just need to put it on them.
And she just said her husband just accepts it?
I would be having a conversation with him
and saying it's fine for you just to accept that that's the way she is
but around our child I don't want that to be shown.
I don't want her to pick up on this.
Yeah, because she'll definitely pick up on those vibes,
won't she?
Especially if she's calling her a witch.
That's not nice.
I've just always had like parents who get along
would never badmouth each other for the sake of us,
their children.
So I just struggle to relate
and I struggle to understand
what the point is.
Like why do you want your kids
or grandkids
to feel any hate
between the family?
I don't get it.
Yeah, I'm the opposite to you.
I kind of grew up
in a household where
there was quite a lot of that
and I always felt
very piggy in the middle.
Yeah.
And I told my mum
that actually quite recently
my mom was doing some
work on her essays
and she was asking me
certain questions.
Oh yes.
And I just was
honest with her and I just says actually
yeah I did feel that hatred between
parents and whatnot
and all that all that did
was make me feel like pig in the middle and it made my mum
feel really sad because I think when you're in it
when you don't realise it
because all you care about is you're being selfish you're thinking
about being bitter and whatnot
you never really think about how that's
actually affecting the child
and I do think it would take a lot to be
the bigger person
because if you think
about if I think about
my mum and dad when they
had me and Adam but they were split
they were only really like our sort of age
so like if that was us right now
would we and say
Richard went off with someone else or
that's not actually what happened but
like if you were a reason to be bitter
it would be hard not to
so probably as harder
it's their first time living life
yeah exactly
so I do like have a lot of respect for people
who manage to do it
And I don't know of respect for people who don't
because it must be so difficult, especially
if they have done you wrong.
I know.
So it is a hard one, but I think you just
really need to try for your kids' sake.
And I guess it's all just lessons.
I wonder if you've said that, your mum would probably
think, like say if obviously
she's not going to have another kid.
But she would do it differently now because she knows
how much you feel.
I wonder if she knows that the child called him the witch
because the daughter came back and told her that.
She said that. She must do.
Yeah.
so in that case then I would say
unless your daughter's feeding back something I would say listen
to your mother-in-law
I just don't appreciate you saying that about
whoever and I really hope
we can just kind of not let my daughter be around that
I don't want there to be any
her feel any sort of rivalry
or negativity
I think you can just position it as
I understand you feel this way
it's fine for you to feel that way
etc etc but
I'd appreciate when you're around my kids
if you didn't show
because I don't want them picking up in it
I don't want for your shake
or for the other shy to pass it around
because kids don't know
and they look
they take an information like a sponge
and they will repeat it
so it's going to end up causing a bigger thing
because the kid will pass it on
they don't think they will
feel like the treading on eggshells as well when they get a bit older
they don't want to they don't want to upset
the grandma and they don't want to
but listen
going back to this
the end of the day it's not your mom, it's your husband's mom.
So I would tell him how you feel, I'm sure he knows,
and just say you need to say something right now.
You need to squash it before our kid gets older and takes it all in.
But I think you're absolutely valid to feel the way you feel, totally.
Yeah.
Parents had a difficult situation for people, aren't they?
Yeah.
Dumped over text after a year and a half together.
Continued for six weeks to arrange to meet for a face-to-face conversation
and then either cancelled or ghosted me,
eventually had to block him as it was,
mentally exhausting. Of course he then messages off another number when drunk, numerous times
that I have to unblock him, saying it's not as black and white as it seems and he can explain,
said numerous times I'll make this right and you'll forgive me. He's recently launched a new
business which involves a lot of socialising. So obviously that's his priority, but I've not to worry
as he's going to be, in quote, become a millionaire and look after me.
Right, I'm off. You've got to laugh because I'm all out of tears.
Honey, block.
No, I think she's on the night thing.
Keep him blocked.
Keep him blocked.
He sounds like a nutter.
And just keep blocking the numbers
that he's reaching out to you on as well.
Also, why is he telling you, like, I'm going to be...
Ew.
I can look after myself, thank you, you freak.
I think that's honestly vile.
I hate that, chat.
I hate stuff like that.
Don't tell me what you're going to do with my life.
Also, if you wear a million you already, then okay, maybe.
But the fact that you're saying...
The fact that you're saying, I will become, that's not guaranteed, mate.
So I'm not risking it.
Do you know what I mean?
You'll stay blocked.
I'll unblock you in.
You can prove the bank balance.
Do you know what I mean?
The first sentence for me, dumped over text.
Me, you're that much of a coward that you can't tell me face to Facebook.
You think you're going to become a millionaire?
I feel ill.
Get fucked.
Honestly.
I hate these people.
Keep I'm blocked.
Seriously, keep I'm blocked.
I'm annoyed.
I'm annoyed.
But I need you know who that is.
I need to know who that is.
But anyway, moral of the story is,
if you can't find a man or woman that tell you to your face
after a decent amount of time together as to why they don't want to be with you
and they cowardly do it over text,
then they are not for you.
No, not worth your time.
Especially in this day and age.
I think when I was younger, fair enough.
Like, it's how you want to deal with it.
It's not that deep.
but if you're asking them for an explanation face-to-face,
once saying over the text,
maybe I need to chat,
I just really feel like they are not worth your time.
And a lot of people,
we've had a lot of messages from people being dumped over text.
And I just honestly could never imagine doing that
to somebody that I've been with for a long period of time.
I know.
I couldn't.
Unless they've really, really done me wrong,
which by the sounds of a lot of people that have messias,
it hasn't been the case,
it's just been a...
A carriage.
A cowardly, ghostly, look, I'm done here.
Come on, you owe me at least an explanation.
I know.
I think it must be so hard to not get that sort of like closure chat as well.
Yeah, and then they wonder,
they wonder why you're then probably acting a type of way
because you need to have that closure.
Yeah, definitely.
You need to look them in the eye and be like, why?
They're not going to, I'm not going to beg for you back, mate.
No.
But have questions that need to tell me.
I know, exactly.
Keep him blocked and get him to fuck
Smadvice and that one
Blocked
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