A Lot On Your Plate - S5 Ep3: What to expect when you're expecting

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Happy Tuesday! This week on ALOYP Jess talks us through her pregnancy journey so far including all the ups and downs in her first trimester whilst answering all the Q's you lovely lot sent in to us. W...e also celebrate Zoe's birthday with 'the best present ever' from Jess. We hope you enjoy and please remember to like, subscribe, share and all that 'show us some love' stuff💖 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are so excited to say that this podcast is sponsored by Watermans. Wait, the solicitors? Yeah, but they're not like regular solicitors, obviously. So not super serious and complicated? Yeah, I would say they're a bit more straightforward kind of vibe, our vibe. I can get bored with that. For straightforward legal advice, remember Watermans. Hi, guys, happy Chappie Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:23 We hope you had a gorgeous week. And you missed us? Happy Chappie. Where shall we begin? well if you're watching you'll see that we're part of a balloon arch at the moment look on the wide shot there's so many Jessica kindly organise some balloons because we're celebrating my birthday early she's leaving me on my actual birthday week
Starting point is 00:00:48 yeah but when this is out your birthday is two days afterwards so it is so everyone get ready to wish me happy birthday please on the 19th the 19th of September do you remember 21st night of September That reminds me about birthday that song Well yeah Around the same time
Starting point is 00:01:11 Two days apart Should have been the same day to have your birthday though And just constantly hear that song As a tune Yeah so we had some lovely balloons made The business name is a simple treasure And her name is Chloe And she's a massive pod pig
Starting point is 00:01:24 So she just came here And you'll have seen the preview At the start of the episode Of The Big Reveal but yeah she's put some nice quotes on you know that way I love it when you say that you know that way oh that edgy way absolutely
Starting point is 00:01:36 quite a key word of my vocabulary and I go to theatre I'm actually spending my birthday at the theatre what are you going to say burlesque oh yeah that's one of my favourite films so I'm really buzzing about that I wish christie Aguilera was actually in it though she's not
Starting point is 00:01:52 sly we love her have you ever seen those two friends on TikTok who dance together they're kind of like it's something like Brooke Brooke and Jenna or Jenny maybe
Starting point is 00:02:08 unsure but one of them's in Burlesa musical coming to Glasgow I don't know if she's touring with it but she was in it in Manchester or somewhere and I thought that's where TikTok gets you these days I know by the way they are the new age celebrities they are anyway
Starting point is 00:02:24 on this week's episode we've got our lot on your plates as always what we've been up to all of your questions for Jess mama to be or mama to be then we've got a spitter swallow and someone also asked us if we can do an outfit breakdown oh okay cute so we will start linking our outfits should should we do that now yeah my jumpers adanola um i feel like this is the color of the season yeah love very was the same in last year as well. Yeah, kind of
Starting point is 00:02:58 burgundy dark dark red sort of jeans are just HNM and shoes
Starting point is 00:03:07 are specials trying to look at you if there's anything else on your body that we can
Starting point is 00:03:12 ask No Jumper is new season Prime Marnie 17 quid
Starting point is 00:03:19 thought that was steep but it's got wool in it has a good quality I will get
Starting point is 00:03:24 from that gorgeous but I'm not washed it yet so we'll soon see The leggings are these like fold-over ones, you know, the fold-over band ones from H&M. Trainers are old and new balance.
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's it. Stay like ones. Yeah. That's it. I'm not a fashion queen at the moment. I don't think I ever had been. Me? No me.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So I say speak for yourself, you silly bitch. I'm joking. I think you're a star queen. Right, anyway, I'm going to go and get your present. because that's the one thing you failed to mention I'm getting a pleasant guys close your eyes yes Jason has really hyped this up
Starting point is 00:04:06 I really have and I feel like I've fucked it but no guys I actually think it deserves the hype I have no idea what that's to be so lucky don't look because it's coming over my eyes are shot I feel like I'm so lucky that I got this and snapped it up when I did because
Starting point is 00:04:19 I've had a few of these before some gifted and this was not I wish it was and I am so impressed by this that I urge you all if you can afford to get this or ask for it
Starting point is 00:04:35 quick because it is worth over £1,200 pounds Pardon me? Yes and I actually examined it fully and it absolutely is worth 1,200 pounds
Starting point is 00:04:48 it didn't cost me that Can I open my eyes yet? No! I'm going to show the camera first which camera should have you. and if you're actually on Patreon I do you a big breakdown of all the bits and months right arms out what the hell it's big boy open open fucking hell is it an advent calendar wow I don't want to open them and
Starting point is 00:05:24 Look. Okay, I'm just going to tell you some drawers to open, okay, just so I can just give you a peek of how fucking good this is. I've never had one of these. Can we say what it is? Sorry, we've not said. Sorry, it's the cult beauty advent calendar. It's their new one that came out like last week.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Open Door 14. You need to find it. It's all exciting. This blew my mind. By the way, it's deep. What the first? fucking fuck. That is like
Starting point is 00:05:56 250 pounds. Augustus Bader. The rich cream. Yeah. I can't wait till December. Okay, open. Can I not do it for the month of September instead? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I need to try, I need to try. Okay, open number 17. What the hell? Sunday Riley, CEO, vitamin C. That's one of the best products that ever was. More, more, more. What the fuck is 25?
Starting point is 00:06:26 25's got like five things in it. I'm not open that. 25 has got one, two, three, four. That's what we'll say about this. There's about three or four things in each drawer. The two you've just opened, obviously not because they're like top-down. Yeah, 21's a big boy. 16's a big boy.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Five's a big boy. 21, 22. There's quite a lot of big boys. 24 is a good one. Can I find it? Oh, there it's. I don't want any more. Okay, stop then.
Starting point is 00:06:54 maybe do 12 12 is a good one right this is the last one yeah okay I don't know if I can keep this to December Sadies away Jesus oil Jisu is that I say it oh you'll love number two you'll love number two
Starting point is 00:07:15 but I'm leaving that okay it's the best present ever thank you so much that's my absolute pleasure and then that was a big treat a birthday card I hope by the time time this comes out that this is not sold out because I've seen a few influences posting about it and they're obviously just as shocked as me because I guess they got it for free but I was like I need
Starting point is 00:07:33 to get this wow I don't know if I can wait I keep like I spoke you but that was from a Jess Ted's JJ F and people just say a lot on your plate I'm richard thank you so much yeha yeha happy birthday I've got her a cowgirl birthday card I'm a place you've not got the place in the back I got that online. I actually proved that. Read it out. This is a common theme. To Zozo, Zozzie, Sissy, Zosel, Sissy Plop, Momager and Best Friend. That's nice. You missed Auntie. Oh, well. Okay. Happy fricking birthday, 20, holy moly. Can't believe I'm no even dead yet. Can't wait to celebrate properly in Nashville. Yehaw. Hope you love your Prezzi, you spoiled little piggy. I'm jealous, to be honest. Love you lots like jelly tots.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Cause no more vodka shots. Fair fucks. Jessica, Richard, Owen, Wilson and baby piglet. Cute as fuck. Thank you so much. I'll hug you after. Perfect. How cute. I love that. I'm fucking buzzing about that, by the way. I know you would be. I'm going to be clone. I can't cope. When I was looking through it, because I was doing a little vlog style thing for the Patreon, or are behind the scenes after the Highway NIC because I went home and it had arrived and I was like perfect and I was going through it because I hadn't seen the booklet
Starting point is 00:08:57 that comes with it so I was going through it like you're joking like this is the best thing I've ever seen does that give you information about them all this is every single one yeah that's quite good as well isn't it yeah so you could cheat and have a look but don't suggest you don't want to it's just as a few months I know I said to you I don't know if you can't wait till December I don't know either I will try my best I can't believe it's got that Augustus Gloop Day cream in it I'm shook
Starting point is 00:09:29 Augustus Gloop Oh thanks so much That was gorgeous treat When you open the wall I just knew Right What should we talk about next Well it's been a lot on our plates
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah let's do you Because I haven't got anything to give to this conversation. Well, first of all, we had our Harvey Nix event on Sunday. Oh, yeah, guys, that was probably up there with one of my favourite events. I don't think I've really realised it until I got home. No, I know what you mean? It was just, it was a lovely, chilled, wholesome Sunday morning. And it was nicely being Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I think when I walked into Harvey Nix, which I'm free to say now, but my head's not really been in the whole event planning malarkey. yeah Zoe and Becky bless their hearts have been amazing so when I walked in I just didn't realize like how good the set up would be I didn't realize we had a DJ I didn't realize you got offered like mimosas and I knew we had a goody bag but to be fair none of us knew what was inside it and we were blown away by that yeah that itself was worth maybe like 50 60 quids I think it was a bit sexy pay added it all up um the brunch was nice I just and obviously our chat was great like We didn't plan anything.
Starting point is 00:10:45 We just had a very normal podcasty chat, which we've never done at an event before. She was a bit of scripted, I'd say, we'd discuss. But before that, and the way they were like, let's just have a catch-up. Chat about the beauty products as well.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, which was true. Which are ones that we always use and love, so that was, like, authentic to us, yeah. And not to mention the fact that we were in Harvey Nix, which is just iconic for us, to be honest. I think it's a good fit. Like, all of you guys fucking love beauty products. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And they actually said to us, when they left, like, they made so much money on the bar afterwards, which I suppose you wouldn't even think about, but they were like, we are blown away with how much, like, cocktails and stuff they, everybody had at 10 a hit. People are loving the cockies. That's our pickies for you. Yeah. But, and then I did my announcement there, actually. I told everybody at the event on the Sunday before I announced on Tuesday officially, I wanted to give you guys some time to hear the episode. for like the morning of the Tuesday yeah and then I shared it on Instagram um but yeah it was really nice wasn't it the reaction it was everyone was just like woo it was lovely a few gasps
Starting point is 00:11:56 from the back but it was lovely it was a really nice event I enjoyed it a lot I was a bit hungover though and in reflection I can't remember what I said at any point in that day I just remember talking about how I was waiting to get my blood pressure so that I could get more of the contraceptive pill I remember that actually but at the times when we're having the chat we just forget
Starting point is 00:12:24 so if anyone's concerned if I'm going to be with child I won't be but just get that out of the brain because you're like I feel like people are going to think I was pregnant after that I'm like I can't even remember what you said I just remember saying it because when I'd said it to you and yours that day
Starting point is 00:12:39 like oh by me listen to this drama can't get more until I get my blood pressure blah blah blah And you were like, I hope so. Yeah. So I was kind of trying to tell that story, but to have to do that, I had to obviously give some personal information.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Anyway, I was a bit hung over because I was at a wedding on Saturday. And it was lovely. It was in Row Allen Castle. Where is this? Which is down air direction. Nice.
Starting point is 00:13:03 But it was really giving Bridgeton vibes. Love. She had my friend Amy, who was getting married, had strings there, which is what you say. That's the wedding lingo. I want to have strings
Starting point is 00:13:15 which means like a violinist or like a big harp player like that sort of thing so she had that for everyone arriving that's lovely yep and then in the ceremony before she was walking down it was really nice like they both
Starting point is 00:13:31 are really into the same music so they kind of like incorporated that throughout the whole day it was really good and then it was a fucking scorcher of a day finally some arrived at the end of we were all sweltering September because before we were and we were outside like out the kind of back of the castle there's a wee bar down there
Starting point is 00:13:46 loads of like nice seats and then after the ceremony when they were all getting their pictures we sat out there again for a couple hours but it was so nice because you don't really notice the weight yeah when you're like just out enjoying the sun do you know what I mean um but we were all sweating buckets right enough my makeup was on the floor was a goner um I didn't see a outfit what did you wear I had a black maxi dress on but it was like off the shoulder kind of like mesh along there and then it was just black down to kind of mid-thigh
Starting point is 00:14:19 and then it was a mesh skirt cute it was quite nice actually from ASOS from ASOS usual I did um get some picks I think but I've just I'm quite bad at going back and looking at them now and I forget like to post anything yeah that's why I do my month through round
Starting point is 00:14:37 up on my 8 person Insta because I just can't be fucked to share anything and I think oh it'd be nice just to share occasional stuff but I don't know because we've got nice stuff from an event and everything we're not I know by the time we're saying this maybe I'll have posted something yeah we need to we're bad like that though aren't we I know like her
Starting point is 00:14:52 my personal page dies of death quite good on stories yeah I think I'm quite good at that anyway them and had the meal meal was delicious what did you have I was slagging everyone for ordering soup to start because I was like you're going to be all so warm and I got some farting
Starting point is 00:15:08 and farting and I got soup I just don't know if that is what I selected but I wasn't mad about it so you were slagging everyone and then when it came to them serving your start at me as well you don't know and the guys were like oh unlucky and all right you're like that's a fart in a bowl well I'll tell you why I don't think I selected actually now you do it when you're SVP a lot of the time I remember looking at that and thinking farts yeah what was the other option though was it mushrooms or something it was a kind of a salady thing I'm sure, which I think I did
Starting point is 00:15:42 I don't know, I could be wrong, but I remember looking at the soup and thinking farts, also like quite a tight dress on, like that just makes... Vegetable soup as well. Farty, floated, whatever. Anyway, had the soup and it was fucking gorgeous. Yeah, of course. And then the main... By the way, soup season is coming as well,
Starting point is 00:15:58 buzzing. I love soup season. Oh no. You need to try and find some nice recipes for you that are without this is going to be tough, but without onion and without stuck, which is tough. Lentils, I have. think. Yeah. I don't know, I think onion might be my problem. Yes. And I do love onions. That's what I sure. Gravy sets me off and I think it's the stock in that. I think it, because spaghetti ball and he sets me off right? Yeah. And I put a stock cube in that, a beef stock cube,
Starting point is 00:16:34 and I put onions in it, but I also put garlic in it and I think all three them together, you're fucked. They all that IBS triggers though, aren't they? Yeah, anyway, Maine was a sort of beef, I wouldn't know the right wording, but it was kind of in, like, a round, it wasn't battered around and it was just the beef. Yeah. But it kind of looked all together, but as soon as you touch it, it was like all breaking away, like so, like, pulled and tender. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:58 It was so nice. I had a kind of peppercorn sauce on it. Slow cooked. Yeah, and it had Dolphinware. What a great wedding menu, by the way. It was really good. Dessert was stick it off of pudding or lemon tart. It would quite nice to know.
Starting point is 00:17:10 actually what all of our listeners had at their weddings because I usually feel a little bit let down when I go to some and it's very traditional like the chicken and the veg and the potatoes. The one I just went to recently that I said they had more of like an Al Fresco style dining of where it was just loads of like fresh salmon
Starting point is 00:17:26 fillets in foil then came like a big bowl of like new potatoes in a sauce. So you cana chews at your table and then the beef like you're describing that came a big bowl of like green beans salad it was a bread it was just like a very I think that's nice.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Do you know what I'm trying to say? A style of outside dining book. You're not going up to a buffet but you've got options at your table. Yeah. Yeah. That's nice actually. And then the dessert was like three different options like a profitable lemon cheesecake or something. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Like a bit of each. I do think it is difficult because you're obviously having to cater for a lot of people as well. So there's reasoning behind why it's limited options but I'm just not a mass of like chicken breast. Lovers show a lot of the time and it is like chicken balmorrow. Yeah. But I do love a chicken balmoral. But try sometimes. Did you do that thing that you do at Scottish Weddings, that dance at the end?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Well, I wasn't there right until then. Ah. What's that called again? A Kaylee. A Kaylee. I don't remember one. I think Beck's did one at hers, but I can't remember. You do the Gay Gordons and you do that?
Starting point is 00:18:26 I think that was my first experience of a... Is it a Scottish Cayley or a Glasgow Cayley? Scottish Cayley. So what do you do? You just dance, like... No shit. Ballroom dancing, but not as fancy. Oh, I thought it was like a bit of a mosh.
Starting point is 00:18:40 where you shove people in the middle and it's like you're like throwing open the air in that I think you're just thinking about when you sing a lot loan at the end that's that is what I'm thinking of oh right I thought you were thinking of like a Kaylee where you all dance like hand in hand with a oh no I'm thinking of the thing that they do at the very end of a wedding
Starting point is 00:18:54 right we all stand around and we lock arms like that and you do that right and then eventually yeah the bride and groom just go in the middle and then all like the wedding party jump in then everyone jumps in and then they lift them up and that's just that's just everyone being fucking nuts that's I'm not been to a wedding that's done that then
Starting point is 00:19:09 I don't know if that's tradition, I think that's just us being a unhinged. We love it, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, Jason came and picked me up at half-time because obviously we had the event the next day. So I sadly wasn't at then, but I did see a picture of her in the air. So it was a success. Perfect. And yeah, there was a live singer during the meal.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He was great. Yes. And then there was a DJ at night. Right. Perfect. Just a nice mix. That's what you want, isn't it? It wasn't a band, there was just a singer.
Starting point is 00:19:40 A singer and a DJ. It was kind of good sort of party vibes. The speeches were great. The best men were funny. And then her two made of honours did a speech, but it was actually a poem. No. So Zoe told me this in the car,
Starting point is 00:19:54 and she said that bastard word that you will say that I can't take seriously. Poem. And they read out a poohm. And I was like, Zoe, stop right here. That's just the way it is, right? But it was such a good poem. you sound much better same poem
Starting point is 00:20:10 I know I'll fix that but I was really impressed like it was obviously right as it needs to but it was like touching it was funny yeah actually they spoke even things that I know that Amy's all like Amy one of her pals
Starting point is 00:20:25 love Taylor Swift but not too much but they just end up in a tradition of going to see her in different countries but it's something they always do which is quite nice and like that was involved like you know it's just things that yeah you know about people cute so it was actually really nice but yeah that was kind of your weekend my weekend yeah and then we get absolutely spoiled at harvey nichols as well didn't we we really did we got spoiled and then we went to st james quarter yes god my memory's so bad at the moment
Starting point is 00:20:58 yes so we did we went to wing stop have we got our candle on no because of the balloons but it is but we've got a dip teak candle and amber it's beautiful we treated ourselves to the studio for that so you can see it in all its glory next week but we also went to wing stop yeah and guys i've i've got a fascination with fried chicken in the moment and i thought i need to have it because i saw it on tic-tac there's a girl on tic-tac called cripp and dip i don't know if anyone follows her but she's amazing she lives in london and she just basically does muckbangs right but not in a way of it's like all sloppy she just said in a kit kitchen. She makes stuff as well. She makes a lot of stuff, especially Asian food. She loves
Starting point is 00:21:39 that. But she'll have like a hungover takeaway to her and a boyfriend. And she had a wingstop and it looked a joke and I thought, God, I've never actually had that. My sister and my dad tell me it's great because they have it down south. And there's one in St. James Quarter and you told me there's one now in St. Enix. I think so. There definitely has one somewhere, but I'd never had any of St. So I was reading all the TikTok comments. If I'm going, I'm getting the best the best like what's the most popular and they said that the Louisiana rub was the best with the chicken tenders dipped in the blue ranch dip or the blue cheese and the ranch dip yeah and then there was like a honey mustard dip as well but I didn't really like that one that much and then we had the
Starting point is 00:22:22 cajian fries they were nice they were really spicy they were roasting hot but that Louisiana rub fuck me so good wasn't it yeah that was really nice I even like the sweet potato fries like they We did the job. Oh yeah, they were nice as well. I had the coleslaw, didn't rate. Was there something else we had? No, that was it. That was it.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Two fries. What was it, coleslaw? Yeah, it was a honey mustard sauce. I thought it would be a bit more mayo-y, but it was dry. It looked dry. Yeah, not it, but I can't wait just to get to Nashville. We're going to have all the fried chicken. So many people have sent us wrecked.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So we're going to go and try them all. Hallie bees or something, hattie bees, canny mind. And then I'm going to go to L.A. And have in-and-out burger, lose my in-and-out virginity. I can't wait. A lot of good food coming up. I'm in my junk food era.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And that is okay. Sleigh Mama. Sleigh Mama. Have you been up to anything else? No. Fuck all. I'm stressed that this just might be the only chat I've got going forward, but I'll make sure it's not.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm feeling more human now. It's absolutely not. You're going to L.A. next week. Yeah. We've got loads coming up. Then we've got bits and bobs after that. It's your birthday. You've got different plans he'd in there.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm actually super excited. from me and you to go and record in Nashville because I just think me and you have never really been like on location with a lot on your plate. And I think that next week's going to be our first ever Zoom call. So Zoe is going to zoom me in LA. We're going to try and work out the time difference and we need to speak to the guys trying to get good sound quality. But I'm sure it'll be fine because loads of podcasts do it. Yeah, we'll work out. So it'll be nice because Zoe can catch up with what she's done on a birthday. I can speak to her about what I've done in LA because I've been there for a good few days by that point.
Starting point is 00:24:04 and we should maybe try and not text one another so we can actually have a Zoom catch up I mean we won't much anyway at the time difference and all that true but you better to see happy birthday of course you don't not I want like a paragraph
Starting point is 00:24:17 of just how much I love you yeah okay and then Nashville we're going to have a proper like we're going to go somewhere and record it will still all be on camera by the way somehow and that would be nice because we'll catch you up and then over on Patreon that week
Starting point is 00:24:33 we've decided to do more of a style like muckbang eat with those and our friends in our amazing Airbnb which will give you a tour of so I think that's going to be so fun I'm going to get everyone to say
Starting point is 00:24:46 like three facts about themselves and then we're going to pick a couple of dilemmas that week and get us all like a girly chat yeah like what's the word dissect them you'll get to meet the famous Molly
Starting point is 00:24:57 who we talk about a lot Heather who we talk about a lot and our friend Haley as well I am a bit concerned about bringing Molly on because people might prefer her love her now she'll be shy Molly will be camera shy
Starting point is 00:25:11 she better not be but yeah I'm excited for that so if you are over on Patreon if you'd like to join us then that's the sort of stuff we have coming up which we want to just do a little bit more of a different mix of content yeah keep it exciting yes
Starting point is 00:25:24 guys buying your own house and flat can be so stressful so stressful and I feel like as adults were just supposed to know all this stuff. Did you know that it's considered one of the most stressful things you can ever do in your life? I can believe that, by the way, all the paperwork, lawyers and all that. It's too much. It's a total mind field.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, don't worry, I have a solution that will make everything feel easier. Just let our sponsors, Watermans, handle it all. Well, they pack my boxes too. Not quite, Lizzie. But they'll definitely take care of everything else. Perfect. Well, shall we get into it? I guess I popped a little question box on the stories for you lot to ask Jess
Starting point is 00:26:08 questions on her journey so far, mum to be journey. So we're just going to chat through them. Perfect. You ready? Can I just say before we begin, I would like to say a massive thank you actually from the bottom of my heart, just how incredibly kind everyone was to me yesterday when I posted about it. I actually was very blown away.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Zoe was going through my messages this morning on just just Jess, wasn't it? Yeah, I don't get it to the end. And you were like looking at me like, oh my God, DMs, like, and then the comments, messages on a lot and you play it on my personal page and of course, Patreon, I forgot about Patreon, there's comments on the video,
Starting point is 00:26:57 there's in the group chat was popping off, and YouTube there was even comments and stuff of YouTube like I was just overwhelmed I felt like I was on my phone all day yesterday and I am completely grateful of how kind and supportive people are from afar and it's wild to me to think that so many people that don't actually know you
Starting point is 00:27:16 are so touched and happy for you and that genuinely care yeah yeah I can't explain how many people sent their well wishes to me Richard and Zoe like they were so cute I've decided that Richard is actually just a sperm donor in this situation. He is. We were actually talking earlier that Zoe might just come in the delivery room.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Someone asked if I'll be in the delivery room and I sent it to Jess, like, was that even a question? And I was like, do you actually want to? I will be on hand. I know you be at the hospital. You can definitely can be. Somebody messaged like, can Zoe vlog it? Like, well, yeah, what, that sort of view will be hideous. I'm not really that squeamish, though.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'm, you know, I'm quite weird, I quite like... Yeah, gory stuff. Yeah. So if Richard's like a bit of a fainter in, I'll just, I can step in at anything. Yes. I'll be available. He'll probably like your support there to be fair. I'll allow you the moment.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And obviously you'll have to do with my mother. A lot of people can't wait to see my mum's reaction. And by the time this comes out, that's the reason I shared it on the story is because I do intend to share those videos with you all this week. So you'll have already watched them by now. And I know for a fact you all cried because I cannot watch the video of my mom without absolutely fall into pieces. That is the best. Like everyone will understand instantly. And she would be expecting, it's bare.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. Like I always had sleep as nights over it. And I do think that it was so worth the weight of me telling her to her face because you might have gathered from the videos that I was adamant of telling people to the face. So, and I'm obviously, a lot of my family lived down south. But it was just brilliant. with the timing of wanting to tell them once I'd had like scans and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And she was the only person I cried when I told them. Like I was, I broke down. You can't really see it in the video, but I was really crying. My mum and dad, I don't think they ever thought that they would become grandparents. I think a lot of people thought that. I know. And the questions kind of stopped, I would say, in the last year, do you think? Because they listened to episode two, season one of the podcast, that's why.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. so it's like she made a snide comment she made a comment about it on the the episode she came on yeah but i think they'd kind of maybe just decided to maybe accept it yeah as i'm a mom's only daughter and my dad's eldest daughter but there's a big age gap between my younger one so yeah yeah anyway anyway yeah just want to say a big thank you i really appreciate it so does zoe and it just goes to show how amazing community you all are it was lovely i mean i even got a couple of messages directly to me it was perfect loved it I was like thanks for noticing my involvement and all this kidding on and so how far along were you when you found out five
Starting point is 00:30:06 weeks the big five yeah I would say five and what like how did you find out what was the what made you think it what made you do a test when did you do that why any symptoms so aside from the fact that I was being quite good in tracking my ovulation because I really wanted to do the fertility test. I was always tracking it because you had to do it three days after your period or something. So I was really tracking it quite well. So I would say I was around three or four days of late. But what was throwing me off was the fact that I had all the symptoms of a period. So I had the cramp, I had really sore boobs. But what I would say was I was
Starting point is 00:30:54 exceptionally tired more so than not and with the whole fitness journey i've been on for a i don't know like a year um it seems strange to me that i just wasn't full of energy anymore um i knew something was wrong because as you know if you heard from season four i was getting tests i was also getting a really sharp pain down in my lower left abdomen yeah which actually i found out now is not related i thought it was a cyst on my ovary like flaring up i went to belfast for father's day you remember um i don't know if we were recording at that point. When's that? Imagine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 So I went to Belfast with my dad, so with the Friday, we all went out. There was a lot of Guinness, baby Guinness. And I was tired, but I felt fine, so I was drinking. The next morning, the Saturday, so I finished the night with a pizza, pepper any pizza, to be precise, because God, it will fucking haunt me until the day I die. And I was just not feeling myself. I felt sick. In the night, I kept waking up, and I'm not...
Starting point is 00:31:53 You know this. I'm not a sicky person and I'm hung over at all. I can really hold it in. And then I woke up and I just projectile vomited everywhere in the toilet. And I was like, what the fuck? All the pepperoni came up and it was making me feel so sick. Went back to bed, felt instantly better. Then I woke up again and sat chatting to Kelly.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And then all of a sudden it came out again. It was just really strange for me. I was like, this is someone like me. And then anyway, we had a late flight that night. And I think it started to, I started to think, I'm not sure that this is normal. Yeah. I think I could be pregnant. And also just to point out, not once in that sort of two week period, would you say?
Starting point is 00:32:40 So three weeks that you'd felt like that. Did we ever say that? Never. We never mentioned it. It's crazy. Which has weird, promise. I know. No, honestly, that's a subconscious thing.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Even though I knew about the danger jag. and all? I just forgot. I forgot. I don't know. And anyway, and like I say, I never thought it happened for me either. So, um, ruled that out. And then I just, okay, so the Saturday came and we were meant to go out again.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Because my dad and uncle and my cousin, when we're together, we're big boosers. Like, we love it. And I was not in the mood. We went to the Titanic Museum and I still remember the Saturday walking around thinking, I had to go and sit down on a chair every given moment. I couldn't take it in. And they were like, God, your hangover is really bad. And I was like, you didn't even drink that much.
Starting point is 00:33:23 much. And I didn't really in the grand scheme of things. And I thought, yeah, I'm tired. Went back to the Airbnb at around 4pm. I said to them, I'm going to have to go and have a quick nap before we go back out. And I didn't wake up again until the next morning until 9am. They just left me. And they blessed them all. They just stayed in and watched like, I think Love Island was on at the time. So they just watched that and other films and stuff. They probably didn't know. Yeah, I don't know. And then I do feel bad because I do think my dad at the time and probably thought Jess is not herself. But now he knows he didn't go in the top of the world.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So it's fine. Yeah. So that's how I found out, yeah. I think it was the Monday morning. I think I'd asked you how you were feeling. Or was it when you were at the airport? Yeah. No, I think when you were at the airport, you said how you were still feeling like that.
Starting point is 00:34:10 In the Monday morning, I think I asked you again. And you text me, and it was like five things. And I put them into Google because I knew exactly what it was going to tell me. And I know Google tells you you could say, I've got a headache. You couldn't say you could be pregnant night. Yeah. but it was just basically what you text me is what exactly what it said on Google and I was like yeah I think it's time we take a test and then I went to get my nails done and you knew I was
Starting point is 00:34:38 getting my nails done I did yeah and I got a text saying where are you and I glanced at it and I was still getting them done and I did you that you'd done it because you wouldn't have asked me where I was you knew where I was I think you needed to know exactly where I was I think you needed to know exactly where I was at that point. Yeah, I did. I didn't want to tell you because I didn't want you to, not that I knew you would say anything
Starting point is 00:34:58 because I knew you were with Kirstie, but I wanted to tell you when you were alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get that. But, yeah, so I went in the morning, I woke up and I went for a walk with Rich. And he was like, why don't you just take a test now?
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm like, I'm too scared. I'm not going into that chemist. I'm going into my local chemist, you crazy. And he was like, well, I bloody will. so yeah he got me two tests and yeah we did it together because I think a few people thought that you didn't do it together because you'd said he then had to go to work but that was after yeah I said in last week's episode that I didn't know what to do at that point
Starting point is 00:35:38 but he we did test together and I'll obviously keep that moment between us but then he had to go to work so then I was alone then and that's when I came yeah and I text you and you were like I'll be there in 20 and I sat there like that on the sofa like you know that fox that me and fox saying they're like fuck I could not get there faster and bless you you'd gone and got me another test yeah I went into the the one just rhymed from you as well and they were nowhere to be fucking seen right and I'm looking about that if I need you ask for this and that's just so stupid isn't it like no one in there knows who you are and also it's not a bad thing like but it's
Starting point is 00:36:21 just, I don't know, you just feel like a wee girl still when you do stuff like that. Yeah. And there was a young boy working and I had to ask him and he, you could tell he felt more awkward than me. And I was like, hi, hi, excuse me, do you get any pregnancy tests? And then he was pure showing me all the options and I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:36 I don't fucking know, just give me any. Any. So then I brought you that and instant. It was and I said that to Zeri the first, because I did two the first time. The line was so dark and so instant. Oh my God. I did it again with you and I was like, told you.
Starting point is 00:36:53 A lot of questions on how did you know it was the right time, where are you planning, like you've said a few times, like you can't imagine waiting up one day and thinking, oh, today is the day sort of thing. We need to address that. Of course. No, I totally understand that. The reality is, guys, like I'm not a maternal person. No.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I never have been. I'm unsure if I ever will be. I was never somebody that pictured a family of four in my perfect family home with a big white wedding dress. Like I'm just not that person. And that is okay. Like there are so many people out there
Starting point is 00:37:37 that are in the same position as me that question their, like question if this is what they want, if they can see that for themselves. If it's weird because I think a lot of people are confused, felt confused with Richard and I because we are so in love and it is a really good relationship and it's been so long but none of these traditional quote milestones have happened for us and that is just by choice and I just want people to understand like if you do feel like
Starting point is 00:38:12 I did that it is okay to feel that way we shouldn't have to feel pressured from society to be that person or that someone that craves children and then if we change our mind that is also okay yeah and I was never ever going to be somebody that would sit there and say to Richard seriously shall we try and that is why I wanted to do that test and Richard felt the same it was a very mutual thing you don't want the choice we're taken away yeah sort of thing so I was debating and going to go down that route but you know I've got friends around me that are in their 40s that are having children and I guess that is all purely down to society pressure that I felt. I'd be lying to you if I said I hadn't felt that in the past.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And people saying to me like, oh, your clock's ticking. Like, fuck off. And I think that this is what's made me strongly believe that everything happens for a reason. Because yes, at the time it didn't align with what I'd booked and the things that I'd planned. This was like my bucket list year. But seriously, I cannot explain to you how different I feel now and pregnant. and so far into it.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yes, the start of it was confusing and it took me a lot to get my head around with the hormones, but now I know this is, like I really want this now. Yeah. And I think I'd be devastated if anything happened, of course, but it just, I can't explain it. Like, there's something just changes in you.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's weird, I don't know. It's so weird. And everyone who's been through it does say that and you just can't, it's not that you don't believe them, but you can't imagine it until you do it to it. Yeah, like obviously I've had a few, people message me and it comes from a good place but god i never thought i'd see the day or and i get it but i've never point blank sat here and said i don't want kids i haven't on the podcast anyway
Starting point is 00:39:58 i've been a roundabout way said i can't see them in my life i don't know how parents do it and i still strongly stand by it i don't know what the fuck i'm doing i am terrified that i will not be the best i can possibly be you will be though everyone else when it gets to that but the amount of messages that have come in that have said things to me like I was in your position they had no expectations it came on them as a surprise and it was the best thing that they've ever done I think for me that was the only way it would happen for my journey and my story yeah and I'm so glad it's happened this way because I worry that if I had this hadn't happened it probably would never would no I know exactly so I guess the kind of answer is you weren't trying and you didn't wake up and
Starting point is 00:40:40 say this is the right time it just happened no and that doesn't mean and now you're glad you're glad it. And I want people to know that. That is okay. Abso-fucking-lutely what the balloon says. Abso-fucking-lutely. So yeah, I just, and I think what you've also got to understand is like at this time, and we'll go into a little bit of like symptoms of anxiety and stuff that I've been feeling, but an imposter syndrome is something that I suffer from professionally personally as well and I have them majorly in this. But like, I don't take a second for granted that this has come pretty easy for me in the sense of like I wasn't actively trying
Starting point is 00:41:19 and I know a lot of people out there really struggle and I'm beyond grateful for that and my heart goes out to people that listen to this podcast that might be trying to conceive or going through facility issues because now that I'm in it I can truly understand like how much you'd probably want it no and that's fair enough enough are you going to find out six
Starting point is 00:41:41 No. Guttied. We're all gutted over here. But do you know what? Fairfax. It's only surprise you'll ever get. No, what is it? The only thing you can't Google. There you go.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I'll be honest, we were going to find out. Yeah. And then I went home and some friends said, please don't. It'll be the best thing you ever do. So we're sticking to it. No, I do think that's the right decision. I just wanted to know what color trainers to buy,
Starting point is 00:42:08 but we can wait. Unisex anyway. No, I know. Fine. I said to Zoe, like. Even if it was a boy or girl, I don't want loads of pink and blue shit anyway. No, I know. Obviously, I like a dress, but...
Starting point is 00:42:18 We bits and bombs. It would be very neutral. We're not getting like an all-blue wardrobe. No. I know, exactly. No, I think you're doing the night thing. It's just long. It's just long, right?
Starting point is 00:42:27 But how nice for you, though, to know another surprise? No, I know. Because a lot of people did want the video of you telling me, but guys, see we're best pal. That's no how it goes. I know. I know. It's more...
Starting point is 00:42:41 over here rain yeah we've got like talks to be had oh yeah I know a lot of people have been asking about your reaction hadn't they I was still quite good oh Zoe like I couldn't have done this without you no way like when she came over that day I was as I said like in all sorts of emotions and you really really had a very calm conversation with me I wasn't losing my shit or anything of course not but I was very much thinking of every scenario possible and you were like right what we're doing then yeah how are we moving forward you can do it you're fine and i couldn't have honestly done it without you so thank you that's nice show touch yeah lovely when he's like whoa you're a great and i'm like do you want touch um so a bit
Starting point is 00:43:35 about highlights so far lowest points so far maybe give us one of e Lowest maybe was the morning after. So you found out one day the next morning? Yeah. Without the next morning, right? I wouldn't say low is maybe the right word because I obviously felt happy. Most kind of like overwhelmed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I was very like, you know that moment when you open your eyes and you realize something? Yeah. And I was like, whoa. Because you have to remember, I was feeling so shit for those two weeks. for those two weeks and that hadn't gone just because I'd found out I was pregnant. True. So I woke up with crazy hormones and I would say that the realization of a few things. One, my body is going to change.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah. I was really not prepared for that. I felt like I'd been on such a fitness journey that I was trying to lose a bit of weight. Yeah. Which I don't care now, but I'm trying to go back to how I felt at the time. Yeah. Two, I haven't got any family here. So I was worried, like, my child will not grow up around their grandparents.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That was a massive thing for me. I haven't got any family up in Scotland. So that for me was like, I don't know, just daunting, I think. You've got family by choice, but not by bloods. That's it, Scotland's. Okay. And I suppose you do think of those things, but at the time, you think of every scenario, and I really want my child to be part of my parents' life and not everyone,
Starting point is 00:45:05 and that's sad, but I know it's doable. Three was finances. So Richard and I are both self-employed. I wasn't feeling great. And as you know now, I didn't expect to feel so crap for so long where I am out of action for work. Yeah. So, you know, you have my email. Zoe sees jobs come in.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And I honestly was like, I can't do it. I don't want to do it. And we feel authentic to me because I'm not feeling good. Yeah. And yeah. So that is something I took into consideration, maybe more so once I had the baby. never even thought about how I'd feel pregnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So I was like, oh my God, well, I still want to work? Will I still, will I want to post my child online? Do I want to become like somebody that shares mum things on the internet? Because if I'm being totally honest of you, I have never been able to relate or consumed motherly mom blogger content. I feel so far removed from that. Yeah. So I know that's normal because I'm not a mom. But I really worried that I didn't want it to become a whole personality, you know, online especially.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I don't want to lose what I've built. Yeah, and that's fair. Yeah, and I stick by it now, but at the time I was thinking these things. Yeah, like what route to go down and what does this mean for this and what does it mean for that? Richard take time off. We will be able to go and do things together. Like, is the house big enough or, God, there's loads of things that you think about? Well, that's another question.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Do you have to move? No. And I want to. Yeah. I can't afford it. There's nothing out there. There's nothing out there for what I want anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 But I actually got the sister method over two days ago because I text. I'm like, girls, help. Bless them, they came straight over and they were like, I said, listen, I need to rejig. I need to make a baby. I need to make a nursery. Yeah. Loll, get rid of like my walking wardrobey room, whatever it is, spare room. And I'm going to have to make our bedroom more of a, like a, put a wardrobe in there.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Because at the moment, I know you don't know my house, guys, but it's just like a bed in two sets of drawers. It's very minimal and that's how I like it. Yeah. But realistically, I'm going to have to just make that and make a nursery or something. You've got plenty of space in your bedroom, though. Everything can move up and then a wardrobe. going yeah like I need a store I need storage yeah I'm ground floor um there's a gardeny shed bit I've got gorgeous lovely kind neighbors who are over the moon for me and rich
Starting point is 00:47:48 yeah couldn't ask for better neighbors to be honest and I think it's actually a really lovely place for a child to grow up for some time shame it's next to a really rowdy pub but I'll be fucking marching over there at midnight let me tell you that the room's at the back as well so you'll be so fine yeah yeah and it's a actually it's a big room for a baby it's massive that'll be a playroom and everything yeah the kitchen's just small small which isn't ideal but yeah but apart from that great space yeah and highlights so far i would say the highlight for me was week seven very specific yeah when i went for a scan an early scan um just before i went to san sebastian right which i wanted to know for sure
Starting point is 00:48:31 and then seeing, I mean it was a tiny little kidney bean at that point on the screen but seeing a heartbeat flicker and you're with Richard and you're holding each of his hand like we just looked at each other and pissed ourselves I was just going to say it, tell them the reaction, get it out there. We just pissed ourselves but in a like while we're looking at each other laughing like tears in your eyes yeah no it's in a nice way like yeah I can't believe that's how that's going to be a kid like
Starting point is 00:49:01 what what um and that for me then was like oh my god because i suppose at that point you don't even know what's going on how things are don't know and all and sadly because the internet can be a dark place if you look for it i was looking at stories of things and i was getting myself so wet up wasn't i was anxious for a long long time like aside from that morning after that another dark not dark that sounds deep but another difficult time I've experienced this whole journey is the anxiousness health anxiousness I think if I see feel anything I'm like so much wrong yeah I've spent 250 queer almost on private scans you know honestly I can't imagine anyone who doesn't feel that maybe not that much 150 yeah like I just
Starting point is 00:49:52 think everyone will be in the same boat see until it's at that point where you can feel kicks and all that how are you supposed to know for having soak you down there and I'm not feeling anything yet I felt like a little tap but maybe that was just a big old fart just a bit of winds learning about yeah the symptoms guys are funny bunny funny funny funny so weird weird stuff yeah I'll read a few out to you because I know we're running out of time but I'll read I'll should do that yeah do a couple symptoms oh the only other question I was going to ask you was um do you have names but you're not going to tell us that anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I do have one girl name that we both love and boys name one one name I was always going to have was my baby boy name my whole life. Yeah. But you know when you say something so much you're over it and it's quite common now and then there's one name that you suggested
Starting point is 00:50:46 which sounds very similar to the name that was the name that I wanted and it's lovely and also it's a member of Richard's family so it means something nice. I think that's a good one. I'm having a boy, guys, it's obvious, in it? Like, I'm just going to put it out there.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I don't know. I don't know. I'm a boy mom. I would love a girl, though. I've had to think you were a boy mom, but I can't decide now. I can picture it both. It's a difficult one. Anyway, tells a couple of weird things. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Week two to four was the groggy feeling in the stomach. I thought it was like IVS, which I said. Feeling tired. and very emotional. I forgot about that, the emotional one and tender boobies felt rock hard.
Starting point is 00:51:31 My first breakdown was in San Sebastian which was week seven actually when I felt so chubby, bloated. Nothing fit me and I had a freak
Starting point is 00:51:40 I freaked out to Rich like how do I look like this already? I go what am I going to be like? You text me out of the time as well. I was really upset and he was like stop crying
Starting point is 00:51:48 and I was like just making sense. Week five to six I found out here woke up feeling instantly sick looked bloated all the time and I'd gained a stone in
Starting point is 00:51:58 from when I last weighed myself I was a stone heavier Oh, you were working a heavy at that point didn't make sense However, I then lost an awful lot of weight I lost like another 10 pounds in the two weeks after So if anyone's listened to this
Starting point is 00:52:14 and you're going through that sort of stage everyone kept saying to me it's just bloating, it's just bloating well the couple of people that knew at this point anyway I didn't believe them but it was don't get me wrong the belly
Starting point is 00:52:26 probably never went anywhere but it kind of went a bit more rock solid as opposed to like sort of like a shape not yeah like juggling
Starting point is 00:52:32 and the thing that I noticed the first was I found it really hard to breathe like I was really out of breath you might have heard this maybe on this or in video as I post on Instagram but I am gasping for air
Starting point is 00:52:45 when I speak even now I got a few things like shooting pains my boobs really bad farts like so bad I didn't get it I was like what are these farts all about
Starting point is 00:53:01 and they must be really bad if mine bad yeah it's unusually bad okay and this bit's quite deep then I started feeling so this was week six I started feeling quite mixed emotions about the news at this point now I was struggling to come to terms with a new life ahead of me and I was getting really
Starting point is 00:53:17 snappy at Richard for like a week I had a feeling of slight hate towards him and resentment and looking back now that's crazy but I was looking like him thinking your life's not going to change yeah and mine is for the next nine months anyway I just know a flood of messages are going to come in and say people felt like that really because even as someone who's not went through it I can like it's in black and white why you would feel that way yeah because everything happens to you as the female yeah even like not meaning to be disrespectful pissing up to the gym in that I'm like it was
Starting point is 00:53:52 Just like... Can't bear you. What's wrong? Like, it can't be that bad. Like, you know, just typical thing. And it's like, but you're not experiencing it. And even a guy doesn't know how a woman feels month to month with their hormones anyway. Never mind that.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I don't think you'll mind me sharing this part with you because we have, we do laugh about it now. But when we were in San Sebastian, I was huffing and puffing sitting on like the seaside, like the sea side, like the sea side, the wall near the sea, eating a cheesecake. And I was like, I feel so shit. And he was like, um, oh, but basically. like, you're only just pregnant. I lost my fucking shit. That boy, God bless him, we were laughing when I said it because he was laughing thinking, oh no, I didn't mean it like that.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You know, instantly where you could take it back? I was giving him a full-blown education on the first trimester. I can't explain it to you guys. Like, any of your friends out there that are going through this now, please, if you know anyway, reach out to them because it is the hardest time in that first trimester. like mental and then another big thing for me
Starting point is 00:54:54 that I'm still experiencing now is my gums my gums are bleeding it's like a massacre every morning my gums are fucked they're swollen they look sore the smells I smell even my own breath in the morning makes me want to be sick
Starting point is 00:55:08 I can smell everything the fridge but constipation started then um craving started then god it's our blooded all that And the amount you pee is a joke. I was up every 10, 20 minutes in the night at one point for about two weeks,
Starting point is 00:55:27 pissing full blood of pee. Where are you coming from? Where does the letters come from? I'm not even drinking that much water. Can't drink tap water either. I can smell every chemical in it. It's disgusting. And then, yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So then the last bit, not least thing, the nipples hurt me a bit. But the imposter syndrome, I would say like the feeling of this is kind of all too good to be true. something's wrong how have I got such a nice person in my life I've got a roof of my head like lovely people around me like some I'm not deserving of this but you are deserving of it I know I am even though I know I am it's hard to explain I've been like that's just important you know like I struggle so much with thinking like good things just happen this is all this is all just too this is just all too good to be true and something's going to happen and it's weird
Starting point is 00:56:14 to think that because I'm such a positive person but I really do struggle with that actually yeah I mean it is that it's a proper thing yeah I think as well when you've got that mix with kind of general anxiety if everything's okay blah blah blah like they're just kind of bounding off each other yeah it's like back to front of when you feel good about it you then start to think am I deserving of it being this good yeah and you feel bad about it you wish you could feel good about it yeah it's just you're just going to experience that the whole way through but it'll be all worth it and then
Starting point is 00:56:47 Let's hope, I'm asking your advice here so you can give it me. If anyone can send me things for like a good pregnancy pillow or anything that... When you've got to get one of those balls because I want a shot? You can't bounce on them apparently. You can only move on them until the very end. I can't go on top Richard anymore. Sorry. I didn't think now.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I know. Boohoo. But yeah, I don't know. Any sort of vitamins that you took, the only thing I'm taking at the moment is collagen. I'm still taking that because I've heard it's really good for skin elasticity. Well, I take that anyway, but I've kept that up. Not that I'm too crazy about stretch marks because my whole fucking body's covered in them, but I don't have them on my stomach, so it'd be really nice to maybe not have them.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. But I get it. It's the beauty of it. So if it happens, it happens. Sorry, blabby, blabby. I hope that could answer loads of questions. I really enjoyed that. It was cute.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Going through the journey again. Yeah. And we'll be speaking about it more. Any other questions in future episodes. of course well why don't we leave our spit or swallow
Starting point is 00:57:51 for the Patreon yeah let's do it we can do it on the Patreon this week and then if you want to hear more of us you can join us on Friday over there
Starting point is 00:57:59 Go Gina well thanks so much for listening thanks for telling everyone your journey Jessica happy to share gorgeous just don't send any
Starting point is 00:58:10 unwanted opinions we'll just repeat that one more time unwanted opinions everyone's been really good actually you know what they've said I'll end on this The one piece of advice that I've took on board that people have messaged me is
Starting point is 00:58:19 the best advice I can give you is to not listen to any advice. It's your own journey. Make fucking drop. Boom. See ya. Okay, bye. Bye.

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