A Lot On Your Plate - S6 Ep25: Glowing up with Izzy Utterson

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

We are sooo excited to be joined by the ultimate GLOW UP GIRL, Izzy Utterson 💍✨In this episode, Izzy chats all about her dreamy engagement (we’re obsessed 😭), wellness, self-love, friendships, and navigating grief with so much grace and honesty. We also get into her London recs (get your notes app ready 🫶🏻) and of course her ride or die beauty products!!And remember you can sign up to Patreon for an extra episode every week plus bonus vlog style content, competitions, group chat, early access to tickets and looooads more! See you there piggies 💖 patreon.com/ALotOnYourPlate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. We've got a very exciting guest joining us on today's episode, The Gorgeous Izzy Utterson. You'll probably already know her as one of our favorite TikTok wellness girlies. She's a mindset coach, a content creator, and part of the amazing team at Faves the Edit alongside Frankie Bridge. We have been obsessing over Izzy's content for a while now, so we are thrilled to finally have her in the studio with us.

In this episode, Izzy opens up about her journey to becoming the healthiest and happiest version of herself, from navigating life with an autoimmune disease to watching her mum's health to climb with Alzheimer's. It's a raw, emotional and incredibly inspiring conversation and we honestly learnt so much from her and we know you will too.

A trigger warning, before we dive in, this episode includes an open discussion about binge eating. We know you're going to adore Izzy just as much as we do, so let's get into it. Guys, we have the gorgeous Izzy on the podcast. Today, the glow queen. The Queen of Wellness. Hi, gorgeous.

Hi, thank you for having me. I've been so excited about this. Yes, we honestly have just been gassing away so much before this podcast. We wish we'd press record about an hour ago. I know. But the secrets will come out, I'm sure. I can't wait. How are you?

I'm really good. I'm really good. It's been a busy few months. I feel like my feet have like barely hit the ground. But good, actually. It's good to be busy. It's good to feel busy. Like I'm kind of addicted to work and being busy.

so as much as I kind of complain about it I'm always like, but I'm so grateful I prayed for this life. Yeah, I followed you for a while now actually and even the growth that it's been probably for about maybe six months I would say I followed you is insane what you're doing now.

Oh, thank you. I'm loving it. It's been amazing and I think like obviously it's not all about growth and it's not all about that but I think it's nice as a kind of single not I guess entrepreneur in a way, should we call it,

or it was like someone that works on their own. it's nice to see that growth to kind of know like, okay, I'm doing something right. I think especially where, and you'll get this with the podcast industry, social media is so saturated that it's nice to feel like, okay, clearly something's resonating here, something's clicking. Yeah.

So that's good. Always good to see. And what else has been good is you are now a bit on us out of soul. Honestly, like, yeah, crazy. That happened, when was it, two months ago now? Which is sad, I'm like, oh. was it like a next thing for you

be honest was I expecting it yeah okay so yes is the answer to that question I'm I I kind of go by the thing and I was having this conversation with my manager recently

I was like I've never been surprised in my life I like if you two gave each other like second micro second look I'd notice it like I can tell you if someone's pregnant

before they're pregnant I can like I just pick up on things wow the vibes I pick up on really tiny little like things And it was just It's a superpower.

So I was picking up on the like hints and signs Obviously we'd spoken about it I think like obviously we'd had the conversation I'd kind of said what ring I would like Send him my ring size When I was like had a few drinks at a party like I'd eat before I was like by the way if you can this is my ring size Which thank God I did

Because I have child hands But I kind of knew it was coming But I think you kind of think it's coming a lot of times right Like we went to Ibita and I was like It's happening And then it didn't happen And then there was this one weekend where it was so happening, but it so also wasn't. Like there were things where I was like, definitely yes, but also like, no, that would be weird because of X, Y, Z.

So then on the day, he picks me up from the train station. He's cool, calm and collected. I was like, I was like, hmm, but he was being really nice, but like not too nice. But he was like, off to play golf, went for a walk, watching TV. I was like, God, this guy is so chilled. And we were at dinner and he was like, it came up. And he was like, oh, I haven't even got the ring. like that's not happening and I was fucking livid really I think not at him I just I'd

convinced myself so hard it was going to happen right that the fact that I was like it's 100% not happening I was like God I'm such an idiot yeah and I text my best friend and I was like it's not happening I feel like such a mug da da da da da she was like it's fine it's fine I was the same and then we got back from dinner and I noticed that so it's not we're content creators both of us So it's not abnormal to have a tripod, but there was a tripod on the chair in our room and it was gone. And I was like, it's on. I was like, yeah, the tripod was gone. And I was like, it's on.

I was like, he's got that tripod and he's bringing it to the beach because he was like, let's go for a walk on the beach. Like, let's get into trackies. And I was like, I am not getting into trackies just in case. And I didn't, but he did. He was wearing flip flops when he proposed, which was gorgeous. But so, yeah, the point being, I don't miss a trick. I knew that tripod was missing.

Like I noticed it there earlier that day. I knew it was missing. So yes and no, but I really, everyone's like, what, you just like didn't see him setting up the tripod? I'm like, I just thought I'll sit, I'll look out to the sunset and let him do whatever he needs to do. And it was just perfect. And then you sat around and he was on one knee.

And he was on one knee. But it was, even though I kind of knew slash had been thrown off the scent, it was still like, it's a moment you've thought about for the past however many years of your life, right? You know, like, you know one day, like I always had wanted to be a fiancé, I think, more than even get married. I just love the idea of like someone choosing you and like loving you enough to do that. And I'd always loved the idea of it.

And I think for me it was just the natural next step. And so when it happened, it was just like the most emotion. It's every birthday you've ever had rolled into one. Oh, that's so nice. And how long have you been together? We've been together nearly three years. Yeah? And yeah, but I knew from day one.

That's lovely. I knew from day one. Oh, what are you? Oh, my God. Nearly 29. Yeah. Same is you. 29 last week.

Gorge, how is it? Dane. Yeah, Gorge. I'm excited to be 29. I'm excited to be 30. I'm excited to be 30. I'm more excited to be 30 than I'm 29. I'm excited to be like everyone said 40 is great, 50s great.

This is what we were saying. So we didn't listen last week about this. What's your thoughts then on turning 30? Tell us like are you... I just think it's such a privilege to grow old. I think growing old and being well and your health and everything like that is such a privilege and that's something obviously with what's gone on with my health, my mom's health in the last few years.

I think growing old is such a privilege. And I used to like, I remember really in my mid-20s fearing the aging of it. Yeah. Fearing like getting wrinkles, getting gray hair. And I just more and more see women really embracing aging and actually looking like fucking incredible. Amazing. You know, there's always that thing people say, oh, men just get better with age. I'm like, women get better with age.

Yeah. You get wiser and I actually think you stop caring as much. Like, okay, I'm only 28. I'm not speaking as if I'm like a wise owl. But even this summer I was in a bikini. It was the first time I'd been in a bikini where I just did not give a shit. Yeah. I was like, I don't care.

I'm not going to try and analyze every tiny thing, every little thing that I wish was different. Or there's a hair poking out there or I've got a spot or whatever it is. I think you just learn to see yourself a bit more zoomed out. Yeah. A bit more as like, okay, this is who I am. And I think when you're younger, you really zoom in on your insecurities. And I always just try and look at myself. I always say the zoom out method.

Like I look at myself in the mirror as more of like a hole rather than zooming in. Because we have a tendency, I think, because we have a tendency, as women and, you know, and people to zoom in on our insecurities. So true. And I think the older I get, the less I care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what a lot of people were saying, weren't they?

And we asked our listeners and they said, you kind of stop caring what other people think, but also you're a lot more confident in your own skin. Yeah. And I do think that social media has a massive impact on that, especially for the younger generation now and the apps that are available. And there's just so much that I think we kind of forget about. And also the magazines back in the day, how they used to tear women down.

Oh, my God. You know, she's looking rounder and all these big, huge things that they would say about women in the media, really. It's wild. It gives us a bit of insecurities, isn't it? Oh, for sure. And I was the Tumblr generation for teenagers,

which, God forbid. But, you know, me and my friend Ali always joke about it. We sort of talk about those headlines in the 2000s magazine and it was like, she's out of control. She's gained two pounds. And I'm like, what? Like, you know, more we learn about our bodies as well and you know during our during our cycle like we can

fluctuate anywhere between you know two or five pounds or whatever the number is you know i'm kind of putting that out but there's some number of that and that there was that of victoria becum two weeks after she gave birth or they weighed her on tv i remember i remember this like what what do you what do you mean like you've just grown a child and given birth and been through all of that you know and i think the more i learn about you know my body and how it works and I'm like, different times of them. I'm just like, you know what? It's just such a waste of time.

Agreed. It's such a, for me, you know, I've been, I've had, you know, under-eating disorders, over-eating disorders. I've, you know, my teens and my early 20s were dominated by thinking about food and the fear of food. I even remember being seven, eight years old and thinking about, I wish I was skinnier. Like, at seven, eight years old. Yeah, it's so sad.

Wishing for it when I got my birthday cake. And I'm like, God, that's so sad. And, you know, if I'm lucky enough to have kids, I just want to instill and, you know, all the confidence and all the kind of like, it's okay and we're all built different. But I think you're right on social media.

There is this idea of, you know, what body everyone should have and how it should look. And I just think we're all getting a bit sick of it probably. I agree. Yeah. So talking about childhood then, let's start from the beginning.

How did Izzy become the Izzy that she is right now? So, yeah, so that's a great question. I feel like I did a post about this on Instagram. the summer I healed my inner child based, you know, in a summary time pretty. Yeah. We should also talk about that. We should also talk about. Yeah, definitely.

My fave, team comrade. But I, I think this was really a summer where I, or this has really been a year of falling back in love with the things that made me me pre being a teenager. I think, you know, when I was a kid, I was always really shy, always like cripplingly shy. I remember going to see my grandma and I couldn't even say hello to her for the first half an hour, like really. crippled, you know, with social anxiety, I guess, what it was. And I still feel that now. I guess I'm just better at masking it and better at dealing with it as part of my job. But I always loved performing.

I always loved being on stage. So I think when it came down to then, you know, I kind of followed the traditional path of school, went to uni, got a job, had the job. But something always, I loved work. I loved what I did. What did you do? I worked in social media. So I was at, I worked in beauty.

I worked in luxury fashion, then I was in skincare for a little bit. I worked in wellness, which is where I learned a lot of what I know. I worked very closely always with, you know, with my bosses. And I loved it, but there was something missing. Like there was some element of it where I loved the work. But when I'd crossed the threshold into the office, I was like, something feels like it's missing here. And I didn't know what that was per se, but I knew that when I had to present, you know,

a company-wide meeting or, you know, to the bosses or the board or whatever it is, I knew that I felt really good doing that. So I knew I liked public speaking and presenting. But very few jobs really let you do that a lot. So I think when I started then, I obviously went on a bit of a journey with, you know, like I say, I had lots of sort of issues around food in my sort of teens and early 20s.

And in my early 20s, it kind of flipped on its head. And I developed a binge eating disorder. And I was binge drinking every weekend and I was going out. And I guess it was just was what everyone was doing around me. I don't think it was, you know, it didn't feel like an issue and I don't think it ever was a kind of problem so to speak but it was definitely not healthy the way I was living right and I didn't feel good I was very sad and I was very sort of unfulfilled and my weekends were just spent basically feeling like crap

yeah and I just didn't really want that for myself anymore and then when my mum got sick I sort of decided right well the only time I have to see her is the weekend so I've got to fix this yeah so I kind of went and I knew what I needed to do so I kind of then started this wellness journey, I guess you would call it. How many years ago is this? This was 20, 21, so four years ago now. And that's when your mom got sick. That's when she got diagnosed was exactly four years ago this month.

And I think, you know, I got out of a relationship that was really bad for my mental health, you know, on both parts. I think we both brought out the worst in each other. There were some friendships that, you know, I had to sort of remove myself from again on both parties. They just didn't really work. and I started doing TikTok, albeit in a very sort of sporadic manner. And then it started to kind of pick up a little bit. You know, it started people started slightly taking notice. I developed a little bit of a following, not a big one, but a little bit of one.

And I kind of thought like, maybe there's something in this. And how can I marry that passion for public speaking and that sort of social media knowledge? Because I worked in social media, so I kind of got how it worked. And I was like, how can I use this to create this, right? How can I become that, how can I have that voice? How can I help people? How can I do that while utilising social media? So I guess that's in a very, very quick nutshell how I kind of, you know, got into what I'm doing now.

But I think, you know, it was like, I'd always, you know, whenever people say to me, I'm lost, I'm stuck, I'm like, well, what did you love doing when you were younger? And to me, it was performing. It was debating, performing, singing. It was being on the stage. And, you know, I was always very inquisitive. and curious and, you know, wanted to know why things worked the way they did, especially around our minds, you know, I was always kind of interested in that when I was a kid. So I think when you allow yourself to surround yourself with people who will support you no matter what,

you kind of allow yourself to fall back into those things that you loved when you were a kid because you're not trying to be cool. And I think for a lot of years I was trying to fit in with the wrong crowd. Yeah, and like lovely people, but I think I was trying to be some, you know, I was trying to be cool. and trying to be something I wasn't. And I speak about it in therapy. I say there are probably a lot of friendships I sort of push to the side

because I didn't deem it like valuable enough and I'm sort of annoyed at myself for that but I think these are also friendships I've rediscovered in my late 20s and when I got engaged, my girlfriends who I adore more than anything through me this like they got me a stretch limo and we had a little karaoke session

and I was just singing Hannah Montana I was like I don't even have to play a cool music. I can listen to whatever I want and just see me and it seems fucking perfect yeah it's such a silly example but I think I just I think really just being able to like geek out on the things that I'm really interested and have conversations that make me feel safe and good and not worry about fitting in or looking a certain way and I think who you surround yourself with I always say to people your environment both physically digitally whatever is so crucial to your journey to sort of coming back home

coming back home to who you are and knowing what you love. And can you tell our listeners what do you do now? So I now, so I am a mindset coach and I, so I guess it started on social media as you know, I call it the glow up which I've just rolled with. We've kind of just gone with it.

So I guess for me, you know, initially I kind of spoke about weight loss and how to look your best and all of that stuff but in a kind of sustainable way. And then it sort of moved more towards mindset because I really realized the crux of me being able to do everything I do now was in a mindset shift. I think the way that you, the world that you create inside your head reflects the world that you experience on the outside. And I really wholeheartedly believe that. Obviously, and we'll get

on to the stature, I'm sure things are going to happen. Like the things that sort of unexpectedly happened to us on a Tuesday afternoon that you could never have prepared for, right? But I think on a day to day basis, the way that you speak to yourself, the way you view yourself is how you experience life. And I kind of started to figure that out. The kinder I was to myself, the more trust, respect, and ultimately self-love I had for myself, the better the world around me was. And so I started reading up a lot around, you know, neuroscience and mindset and habits and all of those things. And it just, it all just started to click into place. So I was like, okay, how can I talk about this in a way that is legitimate?

Because ultimately, you know, at the moment, it's just a hobby. So I did a mindset coaching course. And then the public speaking came in because I was like, I know I want a public speaking. speak about how can I do that? What can I talk about? And it kind of, they just married together perfectly because I think there was and is a space for people to really understand how their brain works in layman's terms because it's quite complicated. So I think as much as I can be, as much as I can make it as simple as possible for people to understand like the, you know, and I'm talking about it a lot right now because we're in the last three months of the year.

you setting goals and you knowing what it is you want to achieve and not being able to achieve it isn't because there's something wrong with you you're just working against your brain rather than with your brain and if you can learn how to work with your brain the most incredible things happen so that's what I do I kind of ultimately am a mindset coach and content creator but for me the kind of social media element of it is just a vehicle through which to get that message out there

that's similar to when people say I'll just start tomorrow And it goes on and on and on. It goes on and on. You need to work with your brain like you're saying. Actually, actually make that happen. Totally. Because the reason we tell ourselves, oh, I'll start tomorrow. I'll start on Monday.

I'll start on the new year is it's that kind of group mentality. And you will have more willpower and motivation on January 1st. For sure, because you're surrounded by people doing it. But willpower can only last so long. And ultimately, our brains get fatigued. Our brains use around 20% of our energy every single day. So if you're using that energy, you know, you've got, you've got kids and stuff, right? So you've got to make a million other decisions for another human being rather than just for yourself.

So, you know, and people, you know, people will be going to work and making decisions for either their children or themselves or their partner. If they've got parents that they look after, you know, people are making decisions all day long. So willpower will last a certain amount of time because you're seeing it on social media or your friends are doing. Yeah, we're going to go work out together, whatever it is. But that will only last so long because it gets to a point where you're. brain is fatigued essentially it hasn't got the energy to keep making that choice and what does it do when it hasn't got the energy to make the choice it resorts back to what it knows because your brain ultimately has one job to keep you alive how does it keep you alive it does what it's

always done because so far so good right yeah even if what it's always done is the bad thing our brain doesn't differentiate between good and bad it knows need so it needs to do what it's always done but if you do what you've always done you're not going to get anything new so that's why yeah And it's all making sense. They're like, it's all clicking into place. So I hope I'm explaining that in a kind of clear way. But once I learned that, because every Monday I was like, I'm never going to drink again. I'm never going to do this again.

I'm never going to do that. But once I learned about habits and how to really sustainably build them and I accepted, okay, this isn't going to be a quick fix. I'm not going to lose the way I want to lose in a week. And I'm not going to completely change my life in the next sort of 24 hours. And a juice cleanse isn't going to fix my problems. Once I learned that and I learned, okay, this is going to be a journey. And it is a journey. Unfortunately, there is no kind of magic thing, magic pill that we can take to fix all of this.

But once you've accepted that and start to work with your brain, you can change your whole life. That reminds me a little bit of a book I read called The Chimp Paradox where they say that you've got like an inner chimp. Yeah, monkey mind. That's it. Yeah, you need to work with your inner chimp to sort of train them, which is your brain, to do the things that you want to do, which is in your heart. And also, I know that you're quite into this, but habit stacking, doing something so much creating that. habit is the one thing that will change it forever almost? Totally, because why habit stacking is great is you're not using that energy with your brain

because you're already doing it. So let's for argument sake, say we're talking about brushing your teeth. Yeah, I hope everyone is doing every single day. But you're already doing it. Now, that's not an innate habit to humans. That's not a habit that your body does, like breathing, where you don't have to think about it, right? There's an element of having to think about that and having to learn that.

But if you say wanted to start, you know, I've got no time to, I've got no time to do affirmations. Well, you're brushing your teeth. So why not do it while you're brushing your teeth? Yeah, okay. Or why not, you know, you're having your morning coffee. Why not put your supplements next to your morning coffee and do it together? You're piggybacking on top of an existing habit.

So you're almost bypassing that part of your brain that thinks you're building a new habit because you're stacking it onto an existing one. So you're reducing the fatigue. You're reducing the energy expenditure. Like the over thinking of like, this is far too much for me. Exactly. Totally. So habit stacking is something, it's something I love.

I think it's super, super helpful. and that was a technique that really helped me in the beginning, for sure. Amazing. I love that. So you would recommend always doing it with something that's quite, like a go-to thing you do it every day. I think that's the easiest way to start. And I think you want to start small.

It's why I say now is a really good time to start because I think what I would say is before you start any of this, you'd get very clear about who it is you want to be. Vision boarding is the funnest thing. it's the funnest thing you can do because you literally have the free reign to create the life of your dreams visually in front of you oh my god and i'd love that and i'd love that and think big no one else is going to see this except you oftentimes we impose limitations on ourselves like oh it's that embarrassing that i want to do that because you know my partner might see or my

friends might see this is just for you dream crazy big because even if you don't achieve you know let's say you want a million followers on social media like okay great even if you don't achieve that your mind knows that that's what you're kind of working towards so even if you could achieve half that quarter of that tenth of that whatever like you're still on that track and it doesn't have to be a set time this vision board so I think getting very clear about who it is you want to be and then what is the daily life of that person from the minute they wake up and I mean the minute they wake up

to the minute they go to bed what does their daily routine look like and when you write that daily routine write the habits of that person does that person work out at that time does that person wash their face that person do affirmations gratitude whatever it is and put in your existing habits you know keep the existing habits you're doing i have a copy of this stuff be realistic with yourself don't completely overhaul your routine weave it in and see where you can kind of habit stack things on top and then what i kind of recommend to people is once you've got that vision and you kind of keep it you know somewhere that you can see it once you have that vision our brains are very sophisticated in the way that they filter, there's a filtering system. It's your reticular activating system. So it's almost like a

filter. And it filters through from your subconscious mind to your conscious mind. And when we've made that vision board and we've made that list of daily habits that we kind of want to do, what it does is it filters out information that is irrelevant to that. So once you know, so, okay, to my mindset coach always gave me the example of she lived in Toronto. She'd lived in the same apartment for seven years and she got pregnant and she was walking out of the house one day and she's pregnant and she saw there was a baby shop had opened opposite her house she was like god that's so convenient this baby shop's opened outside my house it had been there for 25 years but that information wasn't relevant to her until she peed on that stick and saw that she was pregnant and suddenly

that information is relevant sounds similar to my journey to be fair exactly or your parents buy a car or your partner buys a car or you buy a car suddenly everyone's got that car that is so true why is everyone copying me everyone's got my car and I'm like what's that why is everyone copying me and I even remember when I was a kid, my mom got a minion. I was saying, why has everyone got a minion? I'm like, Mom, what? They're copying you. So it's, you know, that's a kind of, it's a very sort of silly example, but nonetheless, very relevant example of once you know what it is that you're looking for, once you know what it is you want to be, you sort of seek it out, your brain will start to filter out information that isn't relevant to that version of you. So it's not, you know,

this idea of manifesting and visualization, there's science to it. There's neuroscience to it. It's not just oh la-di-da nice but you've got to this is why I always say it dies on the vision board if you don't then incorporate the habits which is why it's necessary not just to do the vision board but okay that's the life yeah what's the daily routine of that person what are the daily habits yeah and then when you start to sort of add those habits in and it could be week by week month by month year by year whatever pace makes sense for you your brain will start to sort of align with that person and because you've already envisaged it your brain isn't scared so when our brain does something new

whether it's public speaking going on a podcast going to an event starting a new job going on a date whatever it is your brain is innately fearful of it

and it activates the amygdala which is your fear centre and what your fear centre can do if it's in sort of overdrive is it can override your prefrontal cortex which is responsible for decision making

and kind of rational thinking and when the fear kind of overrides the rational thinking it's why we kind of talk ourselves out of things it's actually our brain doing its job trying to keep

are safe. But if you've already on the vision board and then doing, you know, maybe do a visualization meditation, I do one every night literally just as I'm falling asleep because just before you go to bed, your subconscious is wide open. So it's a really good time to speak good things and the same when you've just woken up. But if you are

envisaging those things that you want to do, the person you want to be, when there's opportunities arise, they feel more natural. Your brain isn't as fearful. It's not going to talk you out of them. So you know, people are kind of like, oh, it's a load of woo-woo, da-da-da-da-down. I'm like, There's an element of that

and I think we have to get very clear about what these things actually mean how we do them. But there's a science to it. There's a very powerful neuroscience to it and you really can create that dream life by just sort of neuroplasticity rewiring your brain very slowly

and rewiring those routines and that's what I find so interesting. I think you can't relate to that Zoe because Zoe a few seasons ago we spoke about vision boards and I was like very, not very into them but I could understand

how they work and I like manifest this thing and Zeri's like nah it's not for me you then got yourself a life coach and her life's

completely changed I mean exactly so and the same for me it completely changed my life and I was looking at my vision board and you know we're in October now and so we're nearly

at the end of the year but I had coming on a podcast literally like this on my vision board and I'm here today so I think you know it doesn't have to be and I think people get a bit like

it's not what happened yet and I'm like there's a lot left of the air it's a lot of time left i've not done my vision board yet but it is part of what i'm going to do but i mean i'm not going to start rubbing crystals no but i'm also not into that yeah like there's there's definitely a line i will never cross but i do think it's so interesting to realize and i've said this in the podcast since being with meg my life coach as well that it's not all woo-woo no and actually everything you're saying is exactly what is kind of exactly what the journey i've done it's

like once you start thinking about things or even just talking about it one time you subconsciously make decisions to make things happen and then it's not until six months later but when we first started you said X, Y and Z and now you've done X, Y and Z to make that better

and I'm like, oh yeah. Exactly. Like you don't even need to realise that like when you're doing it is just all leading to that. Exactly and I think you know if it is too woo woo for you always say to people just okay pick three words

three words that you want to describe your life Yeah. Could be abundant, could be success, could be love, whatever it is. Three words. Every decision you make or every habit you do, just think to yourself, does this align with those three words? Or one word. Does it align with that?

What's my word for the year, you know? And if it doesn't align with that, it kind of just, it allows you to catch yourself, catch that kind of chimp brain before it just like automatically does the thing. Because I can relate to that. Let's say somebody was quite negative or they found they weren't being very nice themselves. and the word that they put down was kindness. Like, are you being kind to yourself? Is this kind about that person?

Totally. Are you being kind in that situation? And I think that also helps people to stop probably judging themselves, other people, situations. A hundred percent. And I think we're all guilty of that. But when we set ourselves these crazy goals and these crazy tasks, it's like, what are you trying to do? Yeah.

You know? I agree. Can you tell us about what your, like, day to day looks like and any sort of, habits or things you've doing have always done. They love looking at your tips. Oh, I love so much. But what I will say is, as much as I feel like I can definitely do that, there will definitely be people that will be thinking,

I don't even know where to start. 100%. And I think I always kind of preface when I post tips. And I've actually moved slightly away from the long list format because I think I always, and you'll probably get this from me speaking, but I want to include as much information as possible because I think it's important to kind of say, but this, but this.

you know, I think it's important to caveat things. It's also relevant to different people that are watching a ton of ten. Absolutely. Absolutely. But I always say to people, you know, pick three or pick one. Pick one habit you'd like to incorporate. You're not saying to all 20 of these start tomorrow. 100%.

And I was hosting a workshop recently and one of the women said, you know, oh, I just see these influences morning routine. I was like, when to stop you there? Their morning routine doesn't look like that. My morning routine doesn't look like that. What you see online is so heavily curated. And that's why I don't really do that content ever because it's really long to make. And for me, I'm like, it's not realistic.

If I'm going to be spending three hours filming from different angles, that's not a morning routine. Like I had a 9 to 5 until not that long ago. So for me, that was never going to be a realistic. So I always say, you know, if there is a new habit you think is going to fit into your routine, absolutely introduce it. But for me, it's sort of like, okay, how can I optimize my day? So I like to move my body every day. But I know that, you know, I'm not just going to be like, I've also got lots of work to do.

So I still wake up the same time I did as if I had a 9 to 5, you know, when I get my work. out in first sing i wake up i drink my bone broth do my affirmations because i mentioned it briefly earlier but when you wake up your brain is an alpha theta state which means it's the most susceptible to new information so if all you have is that first and last five minutes of the day that's fine because that's time you're going to use to rewire your brain that's time you're going to use to speak kindly to yourself because our self concept ultimately the way we view ourselves like i said is how we experience life so that's what i do when i first wake up and i'll have them playing it's It's just a Spotify playlist I have.

I have them playing while I'm having a shower, brushing my teeth, making my bone broth. You need to try bone broth, by the way, because that is a game changer for the old system. It's bare bones. It's called bear bones chicken bone broth. And I get it off health.

I love health. I love the taste of it. I do. It's like a moreoveral. Yeah, it's kind of. It's like a cup of gravy. Yeah. I'm into that.

I'm like, thank you. See, it's the Scottish in me. I'm like, it's delicious. I'm like, I would have a cup of gravy. I think it's absolutely delicious I love me I love chicken I love it all I'm just like I think that's

Is that the collagen The glow I think that's been a big change But I My bowel movements were not good For a long time From stress I think Indirect

Obviously your gut and your brain Are very very inextricably linked But my I wasn't going to the bathroom at all Like it was bad bad bad When my mum went into the home Earlier this year The stress was just like

And the guilt and everything I think just all compounded and I started drinking the bone broth I actually stopped taking probiotics I'm going to start them again but I stopped them for a while because the nutritionist I saw was like it's not helping you right now

because sometimes it can actually do the opposite effect it can have the opposite effect but it's why it's really important I think if you have gut problems and I'm not a nutritionist so don't take this as Bible but to get a GI map done because I had very low stomach acid

so I swapped out the probiotic for a digestive enzyme in the bone broth so that for me has been like game changing for me but everyone's very, very different and our microbiome is as unique as our fingerprint, like everyone is so different so it's not a one-size-fits-all.

I have had bone broth, I actually made it in my spaghetti ball and aise last week. Delicious. I have all these girls' messages. My God, it's just like, hot, it's disgusting. I'm like, oh, get over it. No, it's not. It's not actually disgusting, though.

But also, so is a green tea, just let it cool down. I love a green tea too. But do you know what? And my friend Leah always says it to me. She's like, you would drink anything. You would eat and drink anything. I'm the same as you. But you know what I think I'm exactly the same.

Yeah, I could do that as well. But I think my palate has matured and changed from constantly eating and trying different things. 100%. Me at the age of 21, probably not so. But now I think when I completely shifted and I see things as like nutrition, like good nutrition, dense in that sense. If it's good for me. I'll down it.

Green juices, I can drink it and not flinch. Yeah, I could put. I'm just like good. But there's people that are like, ugh. No, I know. I think people are really weirdly fussy about it. I'm sort of like, don't be weird. Just get it down.

you and I think the benefits 100% so I start you know start my day with my with my cup of gravy and then kind of move my body yeah cup of bistro yeah what sort of what sort of exercise do you do I do I do weight training so my partner is a personal trainer and he he actually has a podcast where he talks about kind of the benefits of weight training what's his what's his podcast name called lift for life love so love and he talks about lifting weights how good it is for you and you know obviously he goes much more in depth than that, but I do that and resistance training. So I do Pilates. It's Pilates, but it's on a sort of double-ended bed. It's like resistance training more so than it is. They're like, they're like, this isn't Pilates. I'm like, I'm like, exactly. It's a little bit like solid core in New York. Have you ever seen that? I went to it and it was the hardest class I've ever done in my life. Insanity. So I do resistance training and weight training and then I just walk everywhere. Do you? That's so easy in London though, isn't it? It's, especially where you live, it's gorgeous area. It's the one thing I sort of, because

we want to be out of London, it's the one thing I think I'll really miss is that sort of ability to walk everywhere. But I walk everywhere. More so, to be honest, and I always say it, I'm innately a very lazy person. Like, as a kid, I was like, I'm not walking anywhere. My dad would have to drive. I was like, I'm not walking. Can we get the bus? Can we get the I hate, like, it didn't, it just wasn't my thing. Yeah. And even now when someone says, because of my partner, and I never thought I'd marry into this, you know, I'd never thought I'd marry into a family that goes on walks on holiday, but hikes and stuff. Here we are, you know. No, I love them.

But they love a walk. They love a hike. And I really, like, I have to really push myself to do all of this because I wasn't sporty. When I, you know, when I was a kid, I would be like thrilled if I got injured before sports day. I was like, fantastic. When I was off school.

I miss them on my period. I can't do it. Literally, when I was off sport, it was the best thing ever. So I've really trained myself to walk. But when, when mum went into care, walking became my therapy. Like, walking everywhere. So I've really only started doing it. Like, I always, you know, I always were trying to hit my stuff.

but it only really became a natural thing to me this year where I was like, it's so good for your mental health to just move your body and for your emphatic system gets everything moving. So some form of movement, basically, you know, whatever that looks like for you. And I say it to people, I'm like, there's so much crap on social media about consumerism

of you have to have this perfect workout set and you have to look like this and you have to have your hair like this. It's bullshit. Yeah. You could literally be naked in your living room doing a free YouTube workout with a couple of water bottles

or wine bottles as weights. Exactly. And you're doing a good job. Tits flying everywhere. Exactly. Tits flying everywhere. Tits the sky. Tis the ankle.

Like, you know, you could be doing, you can do whatever you want. Just move. And just stay in the habit of it. If you can't move that day, like I said, your brain doesn't know the difference between an hour long workout

and a two minute workout. Stretch, right? So to stay in that habit, if you roll out that mat, lie down and stretch, you're actually building that new. neural pathway of that habit of moving your body. I think we're so all or nothing because of what we're people running

ultramarathons and doing this and it's amazing, don't get me wrong, but you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that. And I think maybe this is also another problem with social media is everybody's doing all these sort of crazy workouts which is fantastic but you now have access to see that all the time in your feed that you've curated yourself and then you're like well that two minute stretch is nothing like that so I'm not going to bother. Do you know what I mean? to do a high rock?

Yeah. I'm like, do I need to do it? If it's not for you, then just don't do it. It's not for me. It's absolutely not for me. I'll tell you that for nothing. It's not, yeah, it's not for me. But I know that I could probably, you know, if I, if I'm meeting a friend there or, you know,

going to see mom or going to see, whatever it is, I'm like, that'll probably be a decent amount of steps. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's probably a decent amount of steps. I always just say, no zero days. And when I say no zero days, you know, I think people kind of slightly misinterpret it and think, but, you know, I'm like a no. No Zero Day is literally doing one thing that contributes to the person you want to be.

I don't care if it's 100 steps, better than zero. I don't care if it's writing down one thing you're grateful for on your notes app. It doesn't even have to be in a journal. You don't need a fancy journal to do it. You know, we've all got phones or whatever, like, or a sticky note. At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led.

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That's a good way of looking at it actually. It can sound intimidating, but you don't mean it. that at all. I mean it like the other day we had our engagement party and on Sunday I was feeling worse to wear and I think I did like 2,000 steps. I was like but that's better than none. That's amazing. I got out of the house. It got some fresh air and I did my gratitude and I was like fine, done. How was the party? It was so fun. Was it? Your dress was gorgeous. Where was that from? Thank you. It's from Iela. I'm not really sure. Oh, I'm not really sure. It was amazing. They very kindly loaned it to me. Yeah. It was gorgeous. They very kindly loaned it to me and

it's filthy now. So I need to sort that out. find of a good time. They would like, just send it back, don't clean it. I was like, no, I think I think I have. I think I need to. Do you mind if we ask you a few questions about your mum? Yeah, of course. So was she diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 2021?

Yeah. So she was diagnosed in 2021. So officially diagnosed four years ago. The problem with Alzheimer's and dementia is they're very, they sort of aren't always diagnosed straight away. Okay. And there's sort of, I think there's something, a hundred and something forms of it.

they kind of sit under. So she has posterior cortical atrophy, which is also known as Benson syndrome. So it affects the back of the brain. And it's different to vascular dementia. It's different to frontal temporal dementia. It's different to them. They're all very different.

And they, you know, because I'll meet people who have had it for 10 years or I'll see people, you know, actors or presenters who have had it for years. And I think, but they look fine. Right. And actually her decline has been quite rapid and quite sort of aggressive and she also now has Parkinson's, which, you know, it doesn't

really add to it per se, you know, it's also a sort of degenerative disease, but is it going to make much of a difference at this point? Probably not. She's just been very unlucky to get both, but yeah, it's the worst. But, you know, it's one of those things. And I think for me to have a social media platform and be very open about it, I sometimes sort of think, should I be so open about it but I think But you're raising awareness aren't you? That's it

I think I've got to something's got to come of it you know something whether that's raising awareness making someone else feel seen because a lot of what I see

and saw of people who have parents or grandparents affected by it and they're doing an amazing job raising awareness and raising money and all of that

but I didn't I hadn't come across someone at that point of her diagnosis that was sort of also being like but life is a you know life goes on too

Yeah. And you're allowed to have a happy life and you're allowed to work and be happy and then, you know, laugh and go out. And so I think for me it was just like, right, how can I, yes, this is a terrible thing, but also, you know, there is life alongside of it. Both things can kind of coexist. So how is your mom now and how is it, how are you with everything? Oh, God. I've been, I thought I was going to cry today. I'm hoping I'm not going to.

I cried a lot last night. I cried today. I went to see her. My, my fiance's mom met my mom for the first time today. And I was just... Really? Yeah. And I just kind of, I think because...

Is she in a home? She's in a care home now. And I think I just hadn't really... It's such a vulnerable thing. And I think for me, sharing it online feels more removed than someone coming to be with her. And she's not in a very good place right now, if I'm honest. And so that was tough. today but nonetheless amazing

and I think she kind of got what was going on but it's the weirdest thing like this might sound really ignorant but does it come and go because I know with dementia yeah it can so sometimes they demand like it's different depending on what day it is and things like that 100% and you'll see

pictures I'll see videos of people who are having a conversation like we're having and it doesn't necessarily make sense but they're talking in a way that's coherent and clear and you know whatever with mum her ability of speech is really declined so hers is pretty steadily bad like there's no avoiding or not noticing the fact of what's going on and that's why sadly we've had to move her into a care home just because we can't care for her anymore yeah they're still together yeah so he cared for her up until she went in but he's 70 this month so it was just too much and I think but a lot of guilt comes with that a lot of guilt comes with you know not not caring for them but I think if any is going to do something similar, I would just say, you know, you haven't, you might have

the ability to sort of care for them and sort of get them up, get them dressed and give them medication and feed them. But to then also entertain them and stimulate them and all of those, it's a, it's a full time round the clock thing. So that's why I just decided it was going to be a better quality of life for her to be in the home because she's able to be cared for and entertained. Yeah. Performers and people who come and, you know, do workouts with them and everything like that. No, it's not far at all. We've been really lucky with where we found. That's amazing.

But it's pretty consistently bad. She's sort of losing her ability to walk now. And, you know, she was in bed when we got there today. Does she know who you are? She knows who I am. She knows who I am. Yeah, her eyes kind of light up when I walk in, which is lovely. It's really special.

But it's weird things. You know, I don't know how much experience either of you have had with grief, but it's the weirdest thing because, what I'll do sometimes is I'll read our old emails or our old texts and I found this email from her that said it was a sourdough recipe and she was like let's make this tomorrow and we never did and I think I see that makes me so sad and I was just crying and I was like

we've never got to make the sourdough you know and I just was like God it's it really is the mundane everyday things that we take granted that you really miss like the big things too obviously you know but I think it's those little tiny things that you think God, like, but how can you ever know? How can you ever know that that's going to happen? One of our listeners has a lot on their plate

and they wanted to ask us something, but we can't really relate to it, to be honest. We're lucky enough to not be able to relate to it. But we felt like you are experiencing grief, but in a different way. You've lost the person that brought you up. She's a new person now, but we thought that maybe you could answer this a lot better than us.

Absolutely. So Chloe wrote an just saying a lot on her plate is grief and Jane and all. can't help herself feel better no matter how hard she tries and really need some tips oh it's so hard it's it's hard because i think i you know i'm saying it to a friend this morning it's always going to be sad yeah like no matter what i think grief and losing a person and no matter how you've lost that person if it's quick if it's slow if it's an illness or natural whatever it's always going to be sad and it's always going to be a whole in your life i think what i don't

try and sort of do is it sounds really cliche and obviously everyone's so different I think gratitude has helped me immensely just in shifting and reframing my perspective on life a little bit if I wasn't if I didn't practice gratitude daily even just writing down one or two things you're grateful that day you know like coming on this podcast or having a coffee with a friend or you know having a really delicious meal like it can be anything

it doesn't have to be something big or groundbreaking and it can be the same thing every day if you want it to be I think that has helped me in my shifting of my perspective of life and grief and the situation and sort of thinking, right, well, there are lots of things also to be happy about. And someone said to me once, you know, I said to someone, and this hopefully will help as well. You know, I said, I'm so, I'm so sad and I'm so miserable and devastated about this, but I'm also really happy in work. And she said, you know, as you both things can be true, happiness and sadness can coexist. So I think that has helped me a lot as well. I think I write a letter to my mum every day,

which I've never actually spoken about. But I write to her every day in my journal of what I'm up to, how I'm feeling. And I find that very cathartic. I think... I'm getting really upset. Oh, no, don't do it. I feel like I've cried it all out earlier.

I was like, I was to my mother in Norse. She's like, let it all out. I was like, I'm going on a podcast in an hour. But I think, you know, that's something that's really cathartic. for me but I think also you've got to let yourself feel it yeah yeah you've got to go right through you've got to go right through grief you've got to go through every stage of you know the anger yeah denial the questioning the why me it's so unfair and it is so unfair and I think you know that will never not be true there will never be a day that I'm not devastated that this

would happen that I wouldn't trade everything I have and I mean everything that I have for her to be well again and I'm sure this person will feel the same but that practising of gratitude and that sort of speaking to her in a way that sort of makes sense to me seems to me be the thing that sort of gets me through and there are good days and bad days some days I can not laugh about it but some days I'm sort of like if you don't laugh you'll cry you've got to just speak about the good times and you know reminisce with people who knew that person that can really help to and looking at old pictures but I feel like I'm so in the thick of it. I don't know if I'm even the best person to answer this, but, you know, I think it's

finding people that get it. Yeah. I think for me, finding people that, because obviously there are people around me that have experienced grief, but finding someone who has experienced grief unique to you in whatever this person's situation is, and I'm so sorry that they're going through it. But for me, finding people that get it and just being able to be like, man, Mike, this is the worst. Yeah. And have them be like, yeah, it sucks. I bet you should be so proud of you. This is it as well and thank you. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, I hope I hope so. Does she know? Is she aware of like how amazing things are for you at the moment? Oh, I don't, I don't think so, but I think, you know, when I said this to my partner last night, I was like she would

have loved all of this. She would have loved this. And I think you have to also, you know, put yourself in their shoes of how you would want them to live and how you would want them to sort of honor your life and bring me through and something else that's really helped me and I don't know if this person is related to who they were you know always related to who they're talking about but I notice you know every time I'm in a garden centre because I'm getting older every time I'm in a garden centre or I eat a pastry or I listen to a song that we used to listen to I'm half of her you know half of her DNA is me so I'm never really without her you know she is she is in me and with me in you know every time I smell a delicious meal

or see a beautiful flower and think how lovely you know my mum was so that person we'd be on holiday and she'd be like God look at the mountains they're just so beautiful look at that pink shade of the mountain in the sky and you're like roll your eyes when you're a teenager and now you really appreciate that beauty that she's seen and now I appreciate that beauty and I kind of see it through her eyes

so I think that's lovely you're never really that far away at all from them you know whether they're here physically or not I think that's such a nice way to look at it's really yeah you do forget that you are half them, don't you? 100%. I know, it's not half my mom, half, yeah. No, that's beautiful.

Yeah. So that definitely helps me. People experiencing grief for sure. Help me. But it's hard. But it's hard. Yeah. Oh, God. Well, I say as well, you know, with my friends, I'm like, well, I'll help you guys when you're going through it because I will have been seasoned to get through it.

Like, you know, like you've had a baby and you'll be able to help your friends that haven't, yeah. When they have a baby, you'll be able to like, right? I said, I was like, you're going to be an expert. that when you come down to you. Exactly. She's like, no, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God, I'm desperate to the baby. Are you? Yeah, desperate. Oh. Yeah. My partner, I'm like, don't listen to that. I'm like desperate to have a baby, yeah. One day, all in good time.

Oh, exactly. All in good sleep. No rush. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that I think for me, that's how I deal with it. If I'm even a picture of how to deal with it because I'm a mess half the time. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you're the best. I think you're doing a great job Yeah, absolutely Thank you, thank you But yeah, social media is It's a highlight reel It is isn't it? It's a highlight reel, yeah

For sure Because you do Like posting ads like Yeah Yeah But so if you Okay so let's strip it right back then to Anything to do with wellness right

What is one thing That somebody listens to this podcast That wants to best themselves Just give me the one thing That you think they should start doing Would you say move? no not even okay it's speaking to yourself better love that like that's it joe dispenser calls it your personality becomes your personal reality and it goes back to what i was talking about earlier

we manifest what we think we're worthy of and we treat how we treat ourselves is in turn how other people are going to treat us yeah and how we experience the world the way that you speak to yourself and the way that you view yourself that's this idea of a self concept is everything and if you don't know what you think of yourself because I think a lot of us would think I'm a pretty good person I say okay we're not who we think we are we're not who other people think we are

we're who we think other people think we are that's your self concept it's what we think because I remember thinking God everyone thinks I'm a loser everyone thinks I'm this something that's what you think you're projecting that onto

you're kind of thinking that's what they've imposed on me that's what you're projecting onto them if you can learn to speak to yourself with respect with trust with love there will be a ripple effect that I cannot even describe around you

because when you think that you're worthy of that trust respect and love like really think that you're worthy of it and believe that you're worthy of it the world responds in every single way so I think that for me would be it because moving great and sleep obviously physically these things are really good for our health and like absolutely they should be focused on

but if you want to really experience life in an incredible way. I think you've got to work on how you're speaking to yourself. And don't you think that also trickles down to who you surround yourself with as well? 1,000%? Because probably a lot of people listening

which we get a lot of messages that they're really struggling to make friends that they have anything in common with or speak to them nicely. Things in common. And they worry that if they ditch them, they'll have, where do they find like-minded people? Totally. And this is a dilemma

that I get asked all the time. And I think if you'd said to me five, 10 years ago, but like your friendship group is going to be entirely different. I would have been like, what do you mean? That's really terrifying. But I think, I think the older I get, the more I'm like, I don't need loads of friends. I think it really is quality over quantity.

But also, you know, there's that saying of people for a season, a reason or a lifetime. So there are some people that come in to teach you a lesson. And God knows I've had friendships and relationships. Justin Bieber shares that in one of these new songs. Yeah, exactly. Season for a reason. So there you go. The king himself is.

spoken. Some people come in your life for a season. Others they come in your life for a reason. Baby you, you are a lifetime. Oh, wow. We've got that song. There you go. But it's, and Justin Bieber is absolutely correct. So I think

I think accepting I think taking a note of how you feel when you leave situations do you feel drained, do you feel recharged? I think that's a place to start. Be that relationships with your family, romantic, platonic, whatever it is. I think taking note of that. And I'm not saying to cut people out. What I say is

invite these people into your new life. Okay, I don't want to go to the pub anymore every night. Like, that's what you guys want to do. Actually, I want to like focus a little bit more on wellness and this could be applied to anything. But okay, hey, Susie, do you want to come on a walk with me tomorrow morning? Because I still want to be friends. I just want to re-contextualize our friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. That sounds great. Okay, cool. So you're coming on this journey with me or like hey do you want to you know no no but I'll see the public or whatever if they don't want to come on that journey with you that's okay I think I always say to people you know don't cut everyone out and sort of but invite people into that new path that you're on yeah and see who

responds but you know I had a lot of friends that I was a real people pleaser and I still kind of am to a degree my you know my fiance will listen to this and laugh I'll be like you still are girl but I was really bad really I'm people pleaser in recovery but I was really bad people pleaser and I you know I kind of learned that saying no and people responding in a kind of funny way they don't really respect you and I think that's something that I kind of had to learn and once I sort of learned to curate my friendships a little bit to a point of people that I'm so excited to see every time like dinners in the diary I'm like can't wait you know can't wait and they really fill my cup and I've you know with getting engaged recently I really thought I'd feel and I do

feel the gap of mum not being able to enjoy it but yeah god they've done a good job at filling that gap and I think you know how to meet them I think there's so many amazing communities think about what you like you know do you like running do you like Pilates do you like finger painting pottery you know do you like music whatever it is finger painting so it's such a random example like that but someone will but someone might you know do you like reading there are There are communities out there. And obviously it's, I live in London, so it's very easy for me to say that

because there's like thousands of communities, right? A lot of people that I hear are probably not so much settled down. Exactly. A lot of people are sort of from out. So a lot of people are sort of in that same boat of sort of, you know. But I think, you know, just trying to get clear about, you know, we get very clear. And I think society and culture and podcasts and books and films

teach us a lot about relationships and how to be, how to find love. But not really about how to find love. but not really about how to find friendship that's really good and how to deal with friendship breakups and how to deal with, you know, that kind of thing because they're really tough and they're really complicated, especially women, I think.

We're very in touch with our emotional side and losing a friend is really difficult sometimes. It's really tough and it can be really brutal and that's someone that you've, you know, entrusted probably so many things with and so much information and so I think it's really tough but I think if what I will say is I've really changed my friendships over the last few years and like it was the best decision I ever made. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. And that's no shade to them. Like, I just think. At MedCan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health. From the big milestones to the quiet wins. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led full-body checkup that provides a clear picture of your health today and may uncover early signs of conditions like heart disease and

cancer the healthier you means more moments to cherish take control of your well-being and book an assessment today medcan live well for life visit medcan.com slash moments to get started we didn't align and that's fine yeah that's right and i think that like probably should happen more as you get older yeah i think we're all moving in different directions i've been friends with them since I was did it. It was like, who cares? It doesn't matter. If that person doesn't give you anything anymore and you don't give them anything and not in a material way, but just you feel drained after you see them or you've got nothing in common, nothing really to chat about or they make you feel badly about themselves, like it's okay to step back. It doesn't have to be a big

dramatic breakup, but it's okay to take a step back. Yeah. And if they want to change and they want to keep you in their life and adjust their behaviours, then you've just got to have a real honest raw conversation unfortunately no one wants to have an uncomfortable conversation but they do make us grow we always ask each other and some of our guests what's been a lot on your plate so i think we've discussed the emotional aspect let's talk about what is your typical ideal day and food look like and then tell us where you like to go for dinner in london oh okay Ideal day and food. Okay. I, at the minute, so I used to be a real eggs girly. That was not agreeing with me. So I like a real, like my, I like eat like a king. You know, I think that's like breakfast like a king. I mean, I feel like lunch and dinner are also like a king. But we move. You feel up earlier in the day. Yeah. Earlier in the day. So I love a big porridge bowl. I've been loving like this like dark chocolate with cherries one that I've been making or a little tiramisu overnight oats. So like just I love, I love an overnight oats. So it's like packed with protein.

but also with fibre. I'm a real, really into that fibre at the minute. And I've just noticed, and I don't know if that's... That's probably why your bowels are good, honey. They are absolutely great. But I was noticing that if I was starting the day with just protein, it was throwing everything off kilter. For me, it makes sense to have like a big fibre-packed meal in the morning.

It doesn't bloat me. It keeps me regular, energized. I feel 10 out of 10. So that is my ideal breakfast, I would say. And what's good fibre options for people to put in their breakfast? So oats is a really good one. I'm actually, I try to be gluten-free as much as I can just because I have psoriasis. But oats is a really good one.

Even like, you can get like high-fiber breads. You can get high-fiber bagels. You can get high-fiber cereals. Like there's lots of different things. Just obviously trying to focus on ones that have like lower sugar content. There's a lot of ones with like high sugar content. But also like, I don't know. I'm a bit sort of like, oh, it's okay, you know.

Yeah, of course. A bit of balance is fine. And then a matcher or a drink tea. I'm a big matcha-garely. Zoe is absolutely not. I love it. I gave up coffee in January because I have really bad anxiety or had really bad anxiety. And my hands were going numb whenever I would drink it. And I was like, wow. Huh. Feels like maybe this is something I should sort of switch. So I stopped so much. So matcha, which is also caffeine but has L-thianine, which helps the sort of calm you and it's slower release caffeine or a green tea and my bone broth. That's what I start with, and my digestive enzymes. Then for lunch, I love, what do I have today? Today I had like, today I had some whole grain, with some chicken, little katsu sauce, some green beans. Yum.

And then for dinner, maybe a sort of salmon and veg or a pokey bowl or some sushi. That, like, I'm quite, I'm not that adventurous. I don't need to switch it up. I can eat the same thing pretty much every day. I was just going on to eat. Not really. Not really. I have, like, three big meals. That's the key, isn't it?

I eat a lot of fruit. A lot of kiwi. With a skin on. With a skin on. I saw that. That high fiber content. I think I would instantly have done you. No, sorry, because it's just different, isn't it?

Everyone replied to my stories, we felt like, I could never do that. And I was like, I've always done it. It's not even bad. But you do your skin on Apple, correct? No, it's, it's... Kiwis do make you go to the toilet, though? No, I know they do, but I don't think it would make you have, like, diarrhea. It might just help regulate it.

It sounds like you might need it. It sounds like you might need to have a couple of queens. There's just an imbalance. They're also very high in vitamin C, even more so than oranges. I think some of that they feel like glow. Yeah. And red peppers have really good vitamin C as well. I think they do. I think you're right.

I mean, I don't know. I'm not interested in this. I'm like, someone's probably going to be listening. Like, that's incorrect. But hey. I think so. But yeah, that's kind of, I'm pretty standard. But in terms of, okay, meals out.

One of my favorite restaurants is, there's a chain of restaurants in London that are really fun, really good food. Like, sherry plates, really good cocktails. And that's Nina, Zephyr. I know the Greek and Bataga. Oh, my God. And it's a chain, it's the Patchamama group. And they used to have one called Chickama. which was my favorite restaurant in London.

They shut it down, R-A-P. But those three restaurants, Nina especially in Marlebone, because it's like actually close to the station. So if you're based up north, it's probably closest to Houston. It's probably going to be the best one for you to go to. Oh, amazing.

10 out of 10. Really? Vibes immaculate. Like just kind of a sexy, fun, drinks immaculate. If we should go for lunch tomorrow at one of them? Because the one beginning with Z is in Notting Hill, right? Sophia is a Notting Hill.

Delicious. If you need a table, just let me know because it's hard to get the table. Really? Yeah. So you want a book ahead. It's a real plan. lunch you might be okay um and then for somewhere that's a bit sort of they're like they're not the cheap they're not crazy expensive but they're not the cheapest but for somewhere that's a bit

sort of slightly less i would say 1910 in parson's green wow i haven't been there's a mexican restaurant i love it really yeah i love it like great great does a great paloma about some part and tacos oh god it's kind of like if you just walk down parsons green then turn right as if you're going towards putney bridge station it's on that road yeah um i love it there I've got a real obsession with that place at the moment Wow I just love going to have dinner Do you eat quite a lot?

No I actually prefer cooking I'm way prefer being at home It's never like It sounds really silly It's never like enough I'm like oh But yeah no that I prefer cooking at home to be fair

But though I think the Pachamama group is my favourite restaurants at the minute in London Yeah I just think that's really flavourous and really delicious I think there's so many restaurants I go to that I'm like oh no It needs to be good if I'm going out

Totally agree Yeah And then let's talk a bit about products. Yeah, because you like your beauty products. I love it. I love it. Give us your desert island, ride or die. So maybe not desert island, because we're not talking about if you are in desert island. We're talking about your ride or die products. Um, okay. It could be anything. It doesn't have to be beauty. It can be an electrolyte. I don't know. It could be your Stanley Cup or my Stanley Cup. Love my Stanley Cup. Um, I think if I get one more, I'm going to be a single woman,

but I, okay, desert iron. I think the bone broth is up there. Yeah. We'll do a wellness one. A skin, a hair and a makeup. Oh, yay. So wellness, I think at the minute, it would be the bone broth. And then for hair care, I think it would probably be the living proof dry shampoo. The new one that's just come out of 10 out of 10. Is it? In the red can.

It's all the same formula. That's just a new scent. Oh. So I'm like a new flavour. Okay. Delicious. It's a new scent. But they're the same formula.

That product has changed my life. I wash my hair once a week. Really? I wash my hair once. And a blow dry lasts a week. That's so good. Yeah. I'll be going in the sauna.

Workout, you name it. If I use that dry shampoo and it doesn't sit in your head, like, I won't say the other brands, so I don't want to throw a shade, but it's not tacky and like sits in your head. We speak about this all the time. I love living and prove. Zoe, he's a prestige girlie and I'm like, no, zombie. No. Blast for me.

I'm like, ah, no. I'm like, I, I, I, I, no, no shade. Bistice, no. I'm like, ah, no, not for me. Living proof of me, look, it's annoying because it's not a cheap product. It's not. But it lasts a long time and I swear by it. And before that I was like, oh, dry.

So everyone, do you know, do anything dry shampoo? I was like, no, ugh. Rank, I'd rather wash my hair and like completely redo it. This, I don't have to wash my hair ever. And it just falls out of your head. I don't know where it goes into the abyss. But not into my scalp. So there's no buildup.

Makeup is such a hard one because it's going to have to be like 50 different nude lip linens. Wait, wait, wait, wait. This is a perfect chance to ask you because I really want to try. I've been sucked into the Victoria Beckham Foundation. I saw you at an event the other day. Right. Tell us, is it worth £100? Oh, it's gorge.

Is it? I'm wearing it today. Yeah, you are so glowy and delicious. Look. Thank you. It's with Augustus. I've seen it. Augustus gloat me calling it.

The products are incredible and I was like, wow. And it's a really special, lovely product. Yeah. Probably not for every day just because of the price point of it. I just think that's crazy. It's slightly obscene. The lip, you'd have to use a setting spray as well. The products are very soft.

Okay. I don't really know that much about makeup, but I'm not a makeup artist, obviously, but the lip liner I find quite soft. Like it doesn't, you really have to be quite. Yeah, it doesn't, I think you need a setting spray if you are going to use it. But I will say the payoff and the quality is incredible of those products. Like, but maybe you get it and save it for just special occasions. That being said, whatever, just, you know, treat yourself and use it.

But definitely a sort of treat yourself moment where I think you could probably find something for less that's... Maybe wait for Black Friday or maybe they won't do a Black Friday, who knows with those. Maybe wait for Black Friday, maybe, you know, speak it into your partner's phone. And you're Alexa. And then skincare and this one that everyone needs to get. This is like, I've been telling everyone and their grandmother to get this product, hyperchlorous acid spray. Not sexy, not glamorous.

It costs about 10 quid. Incredible. Wait, isn't that the one that they spray when you have, like if you had Botox or something and you would use the... That's what you said when I spoke about it last time. Well. It smells a bit like a swimming pool, kind of. Okay.

But you can use it. I think it's pregnancy safe, but double check that. But it's 100% on yucca. It's basically an anti-inflammatory and an anti-bacteria spray, basically, your face. But it's not drying or I haven't found it to be drying and I've got quite dry skin. And I just, after I've cleansed, too, after I've brushed my teeth, because toothpaste can kind of cause spots around the mouth, especially if you're using a fluoride toothpaste. Around the mouth after I've brushed my teeth. I did it just before I came here over my makeup.

Like, I will do it morning, noon and night. to spray that. Where'd you get it from Amazon? Amazon. Or you can get anywhere. And apparently if you have body acne anywhere, it's really good for that. Just like cleansing after you've shower, just sort of spray it over. You can carry it around with you, take it on the plane.

It's cheap. It's incredible. Every facetist I've ever had has been like, oh yeah, get hyperchlorous acid spray. What? Okay, fine. We'll get that on the list. Absolutely. And the Yucca app, because we've never mentioned this before, but so many people keep saying

it to me. Because there's one for food that you can scan, which I can't for the life and remember the name. And they can look at additives and preservatives. things and then you've got the yook at yeah the skin cow i mean look do you love it do you believe it i think it's love heat saying i believe it but i'm also like how look i how clean can you live and also like i live in london it's like i'm breathing in pollution pollution and crap every day you know it's sort of like how i think look i think you can make choices i think i work out i get good sleep i eat well sort of 80% of the time I'm eating whole foods.

I don't drink that much. I don't smoke. I don't do any of the... I'm like, if I'm using a concealer that's not 100% on the yucca app, so be it. I think you have to be a little bit 80, 20 with things. That's just my opinion. Equally, you know, I'm sure there's... I think you could really deep dive into it.

And I see a lot of people talk about, you know, going around supermarkets and looking at the ingredients. And I'm just like, if it works for you, I think there's also a degree of taking it a bit too far and kind of cutting way too many things out and then it gets a bit obsessive. I have a tendency to be quite obsessive with things so I don't really go there.

Yeah. But that's just me. And sorry, I interrupted you on your makeup with Victoria Beck and watch your ride or die makeup product. I think it has to be the Charlotte Tilbury iconic nude lip liner. Yeah. Or the Rimmel lip liners. Cappuccino.

Oh. We love a dupe. What's the other one called Velvet? Velvet. Bege velvet or Velvet beige or something? Emma Louise Connolly posted on her stories five years ago being like I always buy five of these at a time whenever I see them in boots or super drug

because they're always sold out and I was like if I can look like you then I'll do it I'll do anything and I'll buy that and I still now to this day buy it whenever I see it I'm like that's a gorgeous lip liner but I was laughing when I was packing my makeup bag

because I was like got about 50 different nudes in here but it takes a lot to make the perfect nude it does you are right let's move over to side dish because I want to ask you a little bit about surreises if that's okay because you look fantastic and glowing. I know a lot of people that have,

what would you call it? It's an autoimmune disease? Yes, it's an autoimmune disease affecting your skin. And I had it really quite badly. I had it affecting about 90% of my body, everywhere but my face. Okay.

Everywhere but my face. It doesn't, or in a lot of people, it doesn't typically affect your face, but it was on my scalp. I mean, everything. And I had it really, really badly. And now I mean, you still have it. autoimmunity is chronic disease you have it for life but it doesn't affect me unless I get

sick so if I get a throat infection like clockwork a week later it will start to come seriously yeah it's fun so that's why I just never try and I'm healthy girl try and never get sick yeah right well I'll ask you a few more questions over that so thank you so much for come around the pod you've been fantastic can you tell everybody where we can follow you absolutely well thank you for having me I love this I could talk to you guys forever just at Izzy Utterson Izzy with Zed spelt the way it should be spelt I-Z-Z-Y-U-T-E-R-S-O-N and that is on Instagram and TikTok.

Amazing. Well, thank you so much for having that. Thank you so much. Bye. Bye. Bye, guys. Hope to see you next week and if you're over on side, just be joined on it over there.

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