A Lot On Your Plate - Side Dish: Belly Button Fetish

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

This week on Side Dish we are here to chat through what’s been a lot on your plate. From work dilemmas to sexual fetishes, we’ve gotcha! Happy Friday😘 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last Christmas, I gave you my home, but the very next day, you gave it a word. This year, to save me from tears, I give it to someone special. Is that good? Happy December, party people. Harmonising. Happy Friday, motherfuckers. It is the 1st of December. Oh fuck.

It's about sweets everywhere. It's the 1st of December. Are you ready to rumble? It's Christmas time, mistletoe and wine. What's the next bit? Children sing in Christian rhymes. With the logs on the fire. What is it?

Crisps on the tree? I would love some crisps on the tree. Anyway, we're fucking mental. We're here to do a lot on your plates today, quite serious, actually, for December. Anyway, we weren't organised enough to do a Christmas theme, so here we are. By the way, just a quick shout out. You know when we're doing our gift guys, which thank you for the love everyone. I remembered a really good gift idea.

Everyone's really into like digital cameras, aren't they? Connect. You're like old school cameras that you get the film rolls from. Yeah. And I got one from an Instagram called Take Photos at Take Photos. Again, I'll share them to our page. But I just thought that was a really cool gift to give to the whole little Gen Z fam or someone else that's really into like getting actual photos printed.

Wait, so you got your photos printed from there or you got the camera? No, I got a proper digital camera. I've never actually used it, to be honest with you. I bought it for when I went to go to Miorca. It was about £80 but it was a really cool old school one. And I got the film role from place in the south side of Glasgow. Yeah. I just thought that. I thought, why didn't I mention that?

Because when you mentioned the canon and I thought, oh, that's a really good gift idea for someone actually. We can definitely just keep sharing some things to the stories because it'll come to us, you know, over time. Yeah. Anyway, should we just get right in about it? I just say. In an abutit.

Right, so here we go. Hey, girls, I love listening to the podcast. You girls are both so inspiring. Wow. I'm not sure what I inspire you for. I'm con. You're fit to screen. Right.

Work is definitely the thing that's a lot on my plate just now. I currently work in marketing and struggling to see how I will grow and work for a large company for the rest of my career. Can you give any advice on how you took the steps to become and self-employed? I have a few market-based business ideas but don't know where to begin. Over to you, Zoe. I know I actually put myself on the spot there, didn't I?

I feel like my first bit of information would be if you've got a few different ideas, keep building them out so that you like come to the conclusion of one idea. Okay. Because you don't want to go out self-employed and trying to have like, what's the phrase, finger and every pie?

Right. Because you're just going to, like, not succeed at anything because you're too stretched. So I feel like... Plan yourself like a niche. Yep. Take the time at first to, like, work out exactly what route you want to go down with these ideas. And even if you still want to do them later down the line, you can, but only start with one. Because it's just too much.

And even like the kind of adjustment of going self-employed is a lot to take in as well as, like, your actual business. Yeah, which you're finding out. as the weeks pass. Absolutely. So that would be my first piece of advice, but I think you're never going to be like, okay, today's the right day to do it. You just need to find a time where you're like,

right, fuck it, I'm going to do it and know that it'll work out. Yeah, for sure. Because you could always put it off because, like, it is a big risk and you're used to having a stable income and regular income and all that sort of thing, but if you thought about that forever,

you would just never do it? And what advice would you give it then to the bit where she said at the start in terms of like being in a big corporate company and feeling like there's nowhere, like a path I do feel like if you enjoy your work to an

extent then it's worth asking what your progression plan is like that's definitely appropriate to ask your management like what how do you see me progressing through the company like over literally the next five years because really if you're getting like reviews or performance

reviews and all that sort of thing you should have a like a progress plan anyway yeah so if there isn't really one there for you then you're definitely like kind of wasting your time to an extent because you're just never going to grow in that company and I do feel like if you're confident enough to speak to your management about that they kind of know in the back of their heads

that you're eager for progression and it's not like they'll just sit back and do nothing because their job is to be a manager and a people person people manager yeah and if they're not seeing fulfilling what you've asked then yeah I think also a lot of people struggle in big companies because it's just so much more like to inspiring that you're just a number in a way

because you're not really that close to any of the decisions being made or that close to like the kind of senior management team because there's so many of them because it's such a big company so you just feel you're never really you might be getting promotions

but you're actually not really getting any higher up in the chain which I think a lot of people find but what I will say is as well obviously I don't know how long you've worked in this job role for or like how long you've been in full-time employment from studying or whatever but I would definitely stick it out for a bit longer if you're quite new to it and just reap the benefits

and get all the information out as you possibly can because when you go alone it can be quite daunting and you will sometimes wish that you had some like support to lean on or you know certain bits of information you can just bounce off like your teammates and that can't you which is something you find you struggle with now being self-employed yeah creative ideas and things you you miss that don't you yeah it's a huge adjustment and like I even think

I was St J's other day not even when you're thinking like of deep things but see if you're literally watching like something tragic on the news or whatever you would go into your work and you would chat about it and oh you've seen that today and you would kind of like almost like get it off your chest if you know what I mean not that it's bothering you but like off your plate off your plate how could I forget

but like you just spoke about things more whereas like now I feel like I just sit with all these things in my own head and I just think about them all day every day but I'm not actually I never forget about because I'm not like let them out do you know what I mean and it's not that I'm sitting with deep thoughts and like

struggling my head it's just more like used to chat to people all day and I just don't do that at all now. Yeah. So it is like a big adjustment. So it's definitely, I don't think self-employed life is for everyone. No, but I don't think a lot of people could do it. So I think trying to give it time to make sure that it's definitely what you want is a big thing as well. And not just jump into it.

Because it might not be for you. I thought that many times. Anyway, next. We have another work one. Oh. Right, here we go. I'm currently teaching in a school that I'm not a big fan of in terms of their behaviour policy.

As teachers, we literally get no support when kids are kicking off and it's such a difficult environment to work in. However, I love the teachers in my department. We always manage to laugh situations off, which I find helps with the working day. I'd find it really hard to leave them behind. Do I stay where I am or do I seek employment elsewhere in another school? And she said, from a knack or teacher.

P.S. you girls are smashing it. I think if you love the people you work with I'd be more tempted to stay so she loves her colleagues basically but the kind of behavioural principles of the school aren't what she likes but I just think it could be like that anywhere

I know I was about saying that I don't really know an awful lot about teaching or like the educational system but I can imagine it would be pretty much similar across the board unless you went to a private school I know and I think as well even if there's better rules and regulations in place you don't know what kind of kids

you're getting year by year so like you're never going to have I'd imagine you're never going to feel you've got full control anyway so if you really love the people you work with I would try and stick it out and maybe if you all feel the same way you can keep addressing it and eventually change or something yeah because if you know that you all feel the same way

and as you said laugh it off and talk it out and whatever if everyone's complaining about the same thing to like who ever in charge, surely something needs to change. Yeah. Yeah. Or at least stick it out for maybe another six months to a year, see if anything changes and then you can decide, because you're going to stay pals with these people forever

if you get along with them so well anyway. You can always keep an eye out and look for other opportunities whilst you're still working. Absolutely. It is a hard one to decide whether it leave a job or not because it's the same as everything. You just don't know if the grass is greener. No, you don't.

And you know what? Speaking of my experience is not. I know. Do you know what? the positives in companies from the negatives in the past are always the best but then the positives from the previous company then become like vice versa that's how I experienced it anyway it was mental and I do just think like

I do think as well if you find that everywhere you go like I kind of feel for me it made me realise that I'm just not I would rather work for myself yeah like I think it makes a lot of people realise that you're maybe just not cut out for working like underneath a team and it's not that you want to be like the big boss, a big powerful one, it's just that like you'd rather just do your own thing. Yeah, and I think as a society,

we've always been built in our heads that for you to have like a proper job, as people were saying in inverted commas, it has to be that office-based 9 to 5 or like a hands-on, but that's actually not true at all. People work all different kinds of hours and people are their own bosses

or have different teams and it's just how, what you see is, a job is how you make your money. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't matter how hard it is or physically hard or what, mentally hard. You make, you write your own rules in this, in this world. I certainly fucking do.

You don't give a phone. A question for you, do you know anybody who's went self-employed and then went back to work? Probably me soon. Probably me in 10 years. Or one year. Do you know what? I don't really. I don't, like most people who make the leap. No, I don't know anyone who has.

I don't really know when they in my circle who has made the lump leap and then went, oh, you know what, I'm going to go back and get a job. No, I don't. Let me tell you now. I was joking when I said that and I have said in the podcast where you interviewed me about and I said I wouldn't be ashamed

to go back to work because I wouldn't. I actually miss my old work environment and obviously the actual job role itself is very different to what I do now but I couldn't work. I don't think I could ever work for somebody else now and you know when you sit back though and you think about how you were spoken to

in the past from people I sit and I think I would never I would fucking never let you speak to me like that. Or the way I've been spoken to I know and both my last jobs was like if that happened to like I just can't believe I didn't just walk out of there

and I did try but you know it's funny you say as soon as you start working for yourself you sit there and you think I would never let someone speak to me like that now but if you went back maybe you would I don't know

me and Jenna were talking about it actually the other day driving it's like you don't realize until you're out once you're in you don't realize but once you're out you're like you don't realize how toxic it is do you until you're out of the situation

and I think and you realize to an extent and you act on it the way you feel like at that time but there is only so much you can do because they are like your senior at the same time that they're not your senior

as a person they're just your senior in that workplace so why do you let me speak to like that like it's different if they're pulling you up if it's work related but a lot of the time it's actually not or they make it personal and that's when it's always in the personal

stuff to speak to you like shit but what I will say is every time I've been spoken to to like shit or I've had a really difficult conversation in a workplace it's definitely made me who I am now and I've been thankful for it in the long run I will say that it's made me see people's true colours it's made me either like fixable pull my finger out my ass at the time or I don't know made me leave

so I actually think like I'm thankful for those conversations I think me leaving work was actually a result of something that happened over a year before I left but I just had to get my ducks in the row that was so bad to be able to leave like I do think like if you're not luckily enough to be able to just leave from a finance point of view I would have walked out the door

and been gone instantly but I wasn't so I had to stay you sort of like wrapped you feel like trapped don't you in things sometimes? And even like Jason used to see to me honestly every day I cannot believe like that still happened and like you're... But you know what's funny

I was saying this to Richard and I can obviously talk about it now that he's no longer employed by football but do you know how football players have spoken to is dire diabolical? I can imagine there is no HR department but the manager was allowed to call them a C-U-N-T and I'm like hold on a minute, can you actually imagine

if we're in an office and our boss called is that? You would be like, you, us act. They would be, they'd be gone. They couldn't call you that. And he's just, he's just constantly, I know it's like that in like the army or any sort of role. Like a more intense can I happen. Yeah, and it's like they're just accepted to be spoken to

like a piece of shit. But I say to him like, you can't let him speak to that. He goes, well, no, yeah, I can. This is just how it is. Like, do not have HR and he's like, well, yeah, but what are they going to do? But that's a prime example. of you, when you're in work you forget about

like your morals as a person. Yeah. Because if someone spoke to like that in the street you wouldn't take it, would you? So why do like you need to have respect at work but you need to respect for yourself as well. Yeah. It is wild. I even think back to like when you're at school and you used to ask to go to the toilet and they'd tell you know.

Like what? Like what? I don't know. I don't think they'd do that now though, would they? I don't know. Part of the conversation came of me and generally we were driving by, I think in Glasgow you can see into the call centres. Yeah. I've worked in call centres. And I know where it's like, but... Yeah, because Jason, Jason like that,

you can't have a break. But, like, you're... Like, if you went for a pee and it took you three minutes longer and you're, like, in a call-senten because you're supposed to be on the phone for so long, yeah. Literally, some hyped-up middle-late manager

is getting on your case for having a fucking three-minute extra long pee. And it's like, I'm an adult. And sometimes you've got the toilet you just need to sit there for a minute, do not I mean? You do. Just, there's one thing in life.

Like, sometimes I just don't feel like I'm quite finished. I just hate being told what to do. I just hate it, honestly. I can't... I feel like I hate all this control people have over you in your life and I'm like, fuck off. See, I think I'm quite a mix.

Like, I think that is in a way something that I do miss weirdly. It's not that I like being told what to do but I kind of like... Routine, that's what you're missing. I'm almost answering to someone in a way. I know that sounds weird, right? It does sound weird.

It does sound weird. No, but not in the kind of way. It's hard to explain. I feel like I enjoy doing what I'm supposed to be doing to them being like... Take off a list. Yeah, and it's quite good

when you're doing. almost doing it as a responsibility is a part of a bigger thing. Yeah. So it's not that I like to answer to a specific person. It's just like I like to play my part. You like to contribute. You're a team player. Yeah, but now I'm a team of one person.

Yeah. So I think, do you get what I mean? No, I do when you say it like that, yeah. And I think like at work I was always, like I was very like everything was in time. Like I wasn't really like an annoying employee, I don't think. And I liked being that person. Yeah. That like always kind of pulled their weight.

so I think I missed that. Like I missed the theme aspect of it. Yeah. But not necessarily having a boss. Anyway, we digress. This is a shame when we need to discuss this. Someone has put in the box saying worrying about going to the live show alone.

Why? Why are you worried? We will tell you on the Instagram what to look for so that you can sit with other people who are coming alone. And we're your friends. You're coming with us.

Like we're actually going on a night out together. See it like that? You're meeting us at the bar. Simple as that. We'll meet you there. Don't me come and see me. I'll stand in the corner awkwardly. Oh, gee.

G is what to look for. You will not miss him. You'll not miss him and you will regret coming on. Just look for the giraffe in the corner. He's there. Oh no, no. Oh my God, we can get him a giraffe suit.

You're dressing up. We're getting you dressed up. See, look, this is a big problem. Someone's put in arguing where we spend Christmas now. We have a baby. family politics that's exactly what she's saying

it's family politics are the worst listen I can't relate and neither can you because we don't know the situation until we're in it but I feel for you and the only thing I can say to anyone that's suffering with this feeling of where to go at Christmas

is something that I've struggled with for years since moving to Scotland because it's like coming home and when I go back to Lester I'm torn between who I spend it with or where I go and then I had to leave Richard at home or I had to go.

I had to choose basically between Richard being literally on his own because he couldn't be with his family or I'd be with mine. He couldn't come to Lester and it got to the point where I just became selfish with my time and I thought the past two years it's been I'm doing what I'm going to do. The person I want to spend Christmas with is he's my family. He's Richard. I don't want him to be on my own.

Of course I want to see my mom and I'm very lucky enough now that I work for myself that I can go and spend some days before and after Christmas with my family now. Yeah. But I think if it came to it, got to do what you want to do. And even if you too want to spend time on your own with the baby, then do it and then go to his side

on Boxing Day and go to yours on Christmas Day. Or can't all of the family come over to this? I think if it was me and I had like the space and whatever I would just have both sets of parents or family at me. No way. Would you not? No.

Don't mix families. Do you not? No. Really, Jay? Terrible idea. Oh, interesting. saying. I don't think, I've never I've never, do you know this is funny? Rich has never met sorry, my mum has never met Rich's parents. A lot of people

like that though as well. See if there's not really been a reason to, like why I would do? Yeah and we've been together a long time and I thought that is weird but I suppose that is true. I wouldn't have his mum and dad round with my mum and dad. I know it is hard. I do find it hard at Christmas like me and Jason still just go separate ways for dinner but we don't have a baby to think about it. Like I'm going to mum, I'm

to my mum's my brothers and he's going to have his sisters. Right, so maybe this is what she's thinking, and she wants to spend it with her parents and obviously, bear in mind they may have brothers and sisters, so they're... The problem is they've got a child so they three now need to be together but they both probably want to be with their own parents. Yeah, but let's think like her partner

might have a brother and his wife and girlfriend and then she's got sisters and they're all... Because you can't have all of them come to one place. It'd be loads of people. No, I know it would only work if it was like parents, really. I think you've got to, again, pick between your three days, your Christmas Eve, you bought your Christmas in your boxing and split it evenly.

Yeah, and have, like, and just say you'll rotate it each year. Yeah. This year we're going to my parents, next year we're going to yours. Yep. And have to have three Christmas days. I mean, really, it's only a date that makes it Christmas, right? You can have it any day roundabout. I've always seen my dad really on boxing thing just to the second Christmas.

Yeah. Because that's, you know, what's even harder when they're divorced. Yeah, it's getting fucking me. In-laws to see and your parents, but your parents are in together. that's the houses. Yeah, but it was great when you were kid and you had about 25 Christmas days. It's perfect.

I was saying that to mum another day. We were talking about how there's so many people just to see in this life. And she was at, I know I don't even make it easy if you did that. I went nine, fucking number. Yeah.

I used to hate that. But I don't know, again, like remember this is your baby and your time and you do what you want to do. If you and your partner agreeing the same thing on what should we do, then stick together and just have your day together.

But if he's like, I'm going to my mum's, I want you to come to mine, then, I mean, you've then got to be, you got to meet in the middle there, aren't you? I know, it is hard. Or couldn't you do, like, I quite like travelling about in Christmas there, and a lot of people won't like that. Yeah, because they want to have a drink. But I quite like, kind of like, in the morning, seeing someone at breakfast and then... Yeah, because then you can dress up and you go out. And you can kind of, you're here, there and everywhere. Yeah. But you settle before you have your dinner, obviously.

Yeah. So it's only in the morning you're maybe visiting somewhere else. So couldn't you do like breakfast, Christmas breakfast with a family? But also, what we're not taking to inconsider around. consideration here, Zoe, Zoe Quinn, is the distance that they may live. There's so many, there's so many different. It might not be as easy as nipping around the corner.

It might be, his parents might be in Manchester and, Erzor in Plymouth. Oh, you're fucked. Fucked. That's a hard one, I feel like I can't really give you an answer. I apologise. And I'm sorry, but if the grandparents really want to see the kid, then they should make the effort to come to you.

Fair? Fear? Unless they're old and ill. I'm sorry about that. that. Right. Right. So, should we end with the big one? Right, so this is

quite questionable, right? And we don't know if people are taking absolute piss out of us, but we'll read it out anyway. Do you know what? If it is someone taking the piss, we're fuck to you. We love this. Right. But if it's not, then, ooh. So this is an email. Professional email. We've got an email guy sent into our production team.

very professional change in her I've recently came out of a long-term relationship and I'm back on the dating scene but I'm anxious about the bedroom I'd be interested to know if you've ever heard of this before

but my ex had a fetish for belly buttons yes belly buttons I was baffled when I first discovered it but over time it's become so ingrained to my sexual experience I'm now worried that it'll be difficult for me again when dating

as it feels like I need sex to involve belly buttons but I'm not confident in how to vote chip. Do you have any advice? To give you some of the detail, the fetish involved is fingering and licking each other's belly buttons, which sounds so silly now. My ex particularly liked any's. Mine is a, how the fuck do you say that? What's that? Cavernous belly button. What's that mean? Deep. That's me! And enjoyed a belly button dirty talk. Ooh, like deep into the hole. What's your advice for this, Jessica? I mean, there's going to be many people.

belly button fetishes out there I would say get yourself on something like a weird fetish website and go and hook up with someone else if you're really into it I just think when you first go to sleep with someone else you just fucking go for it what start fingering his belly button just get your finger right in there

no Zoe no I'd be like get the fuck out there we just never know them like it's not something I'm into but like maybe I would enjoy it if it happened you know what I mean what so if you ended up getting with this guy that she's talking about and he started

whispering sweet nothing's into your belly button. No, I know, but she obviously felt that way at the start as well but then it became something she enjoyed. So I think you just need to be brave and just either speak about it or go for it and see if they're on board.

Just put it out in the open. He's just obviously got some mad fetish for it, isn't it? People have them like above feet and... I think more people have them not. I've just luckily not really experienced anything like that out there but I think that's why you just go for it and see what happens.

I'm not sure. I'm on the fence here. I personally don't think you should go in the next place he's sleep with. You start licking his belly button. No, but you start in stages, obviously. You start maybe just with a wee like a rub of the finger around the rim of the belly button. I think maybe, right, you do a bit of foreplay.

This is so disgusting. I can't even believe I'm discussing this. But like, you start giving him a blow job, right? And then if you start, like, licking all about the area, the belly button's not that far so I'm sure like he's well into it and you can get your little fix from it whilst you down that region

that's what I mean like you're running about it anyway so just like you just need to go for it while you're not just going to be sitting watching a move and you sit your finger on the belly button the camera when you're about that area just you know feel about and see what the reaction is

some people like for me personally I've got a really ticklish belly button like if someone he did that I'd be like ooh I actually must admit I absolutely hate when someone touches my belly button yeah so it couldn't be me but you just never know. I wouldn't think too much into it.

I think you're overthinking it as well. Like, if this is fully true, I think when you're actually in the situation with another person that's different to your ex, you're going to be in a whole different scenario and they might have some weird, they might start sucking your toes or something. You'd be like, ooh, new kink.

And then you could maybe be like, oh, I'm going to just have a little wee pinky and his winky, winky, winky. And then next minute, fuck knows. You're like your charged belly button? Yeah. You know, weirder things have happened. where do things have happened I've just got like two things

that we need to follow up on right before we end this chat of Kathy today someone said in reply to you asking can you drive away from McDonald's drive-thru without eating a chip I was stood at the tell of McDonald's and took a chip off the tray

whilst they were still bringing the rest of the order but then I was to realise it wasn't actually my train that was the guys next to me I love that right so that what she actually said was so the answer is no you cannot

another ghosty story my mum was watching most haunted house years ago my dog started staring at the certain area of the room and started barking like mad it was freaking my mum out so bad so she said out loud whoever you are please go away because you're scaring me

my dog then moved his head and eyes following something to the end of the room and then stop barking So that person's left the room. Jessica? No, I hate stuff like that. That is fucking weird, isn't it? Like, she said get out of fear

and she actually saw her dog, like, do that as if he was watching someone leaving the room. Parallel universe. The ghost are real, sorry. They are. Anyway, next. You don't, dating apps verification, mind we were talking about that. Oh, yeah.

You don't need to be verified to use Tinder, but it does show a wee tick next people who have verified themselves and that means you need to take a video to prove you're the person in the pictures but, but, here, you can do that and then change every picture in your profile so even the

verified accounts can then be fake. How unsafe is that? I'm sorry, I can't believe that. That's so unsafe. She said so comforting and not scary at all, ha ha ha. My God. Honestly, I just don't understand. You can't even send five pence to your palana

without putting your face in your ABS account It's a tough world out there So why do you need to do that? Stay strong, girlies Absolutely Anyway, that's enough for this week Yeah, thank you That was gorgeous Zoe

And we'll see you all at the live Fuck, is that the next time? Yeah Right, listen, if you're coming to the live and you don't cheer so loud I'm gonna be fuming I want to be lying in my bed after it With that ringing thing in my ear

It is, yeah We need you to be our biggest height women ever And you know what, I actually have full confidence that they're going to be. Have a few shots. I have caught and I'm not scared. Also, can you actually give us some ideas of what we can do for spit or swallow

on the live? If you want to bring us something you can. You have to think about it. If you want to give us some sort of alcohol options, we need to do it because that's what we're going to do. But also remember that then we need to, that'll be near the start of it and then we need to progress with the evening.

Yeah, so it's nothing to, nothing like absence or anything like that, thank you. Men used to bring that back from holiday. Oh my God. Yeah, what was that? Ouzer, oh, you fucker. Anyway, I'm alone. Bye.

Thanks for us to May. See ya! See ya!