A Lot On Your Plate - Side Dish: Show your boobies some support

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

This week on Side Dish we have the amazing Jayne Lasley, founder of Fairlie Curved, join us to discuss why a good bra is KEY to feeling confident. Life is all about supporting them boobies girls. Enjoy🍉 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy Friday party people Happy Friday Hope we enjoy Tuesday's episodes And are ready for another all about booby-wobies Titty tiddies Oh yeah, this here is On today's episode We have a lovely guest

Her name is Jane Lasley Fun story actually I met Jane She was one of the first people I ever met in Scotland. Aw, that's cute. I'm trapped in memory lane. Yeah.

Richard used to play for Motherwell and I came up and he said we're going to this party. I was like, oh. But Jane used, well, is sorry, married to Keith Lassey, who was the captain of Motherwell at the time. Right.

Makes sense. And every summer they used to host like a party because that's what kind of the captain and his wife does. And everybody in the team in their team the girlfriends and the wires would go. So could you imagine me?

I got up there. I was like, oh my God, I don't know anyone. My boyfriend just moved to Scotland, but she was the most loveliest lady, so welcome in. And I actually had a really nice time. And we stayed in touch since. We love her so much. And we had a lot in common because I came up to do fashion,

account management, buying, whatever. And as did Jane. So Jane is 44. She is a mother of two, and she lives in Langbank. Where's that? Is that how you say it? reference shire Renfrewshire

Renfrewshire Reference shire Reference shire Reference shire And Jane has worked as a fashion buy for over 20 years and she had the idea

for her business fairly curved while studying fashion at uni as she could never get clothes to fit her boobs she's a big booby girl and her maiden name

was fairly as well so she designed a collection in her final year for full of bust girls and called it fairly curved but she was offered a job as a buying assistant the same week

she graduated and took the idea forward and something that she regretted for 20 years. Anyway, fast forward to the pandemic. She was clearing out the garage and found all of our old uni designs and she couldn't sleep thinking about all the regret and after lots of research, she realised there were very few styling pages

for Fuller Busted Girls. So the next day, she started fairly curved on Instagram, giving fuller bust bra recommendations and outfit ideas. The reaction she got was amazing and in the same week, she lost her job during COVID, which is really shite. And I know that's happened to a lot of people. It sounds like it was meant to be, though.

Yep. And girls started asking if she had a shop they could buy the outfits from, that she was styling. So with no job, she just took the leap and started the brand with just £500. And Fairle Card has now been trading for almost three years online and offers stylish, affordable, ageless, full of bus clothing. She ships worldwide, with over 10% of the sales being international. She also won Small Business Startup of the Year last year

and has been listed as one of the top 100 female entrepreneurs to watch by Telegraph and Nat West. Wow. Saas, bot bitch. And her main focus is making full of busts mid-sized women of all ages who have felt completely forgotten about on the high street feel amazing. Tag me next, time June. Yep.

She's also going to talk us through bra fitting and close to fit your shape because Jane has just been approved to fit some amazing bras. Something that me and Zoe are really bad with. We do everything on our power to make our boobs look smaller and appear smaller which can't be good for our backs and our boobs No it can and honestly I just chose a size and decided that I was never going to wear any bigger than that

Yep I know And I'm absolutely bigger than that So I definitely need some assistance in that department And I also want to ask her like she recommends That's what she's been known for recommending good places to shop for bras So I do know she's now fitting a particular brand

But it'd be good to ask her like Where's good to go for bras? I know because I just think you hear such a contrast between like see if you got fitted in Marks and Spencer say right in my head that's probably more your actual size because they're like for women

Yeah Whereas like Beau Avenue Like you're going to make me ten times bigger Because your brads are like wee cute bras Yeah Do you used to have licenza? Yes By the whole lace pants started with licenza

Yeah that really is bringing It's ringing bells ringing bells. But she's also wants to talk a little bit about not giving it upon your dreams and it took her until her foresees to start her dream job. But all the things she learned in the jobs that she hated when she was younger

have helped her make her dream come true and her company a success. And she also wants to talk a little bit about how it is running a business as a mum of two and how she's built a business that only has female employees so far. Her head office has flexible working hours as well which is centred around the school hours.

so all the girls in our office can do school drop-offs and they can have a really nice work-life balance with their families which I think is really important I feel like she's kind of stated the difference between starting a business young and starting a business when you are a bit older because she's like seen the struggles of like having kids whilst working for others

and she's made sure that she gives her staff the opposite of that and that's probably why it's good starting it at a later age because you've got all this life experience absolutely well I feel inspired I can't meet her, Jane. She's honestly incredible. Love her so much. She's a great, great person.

Do you know what else I love about her as well? She is such, like, she's obviously watching my journey living here when, from knowing no one to obviously having just just food or whatever. Not everyone that walks of streets of Glasgow. And she's so like, what's the word? Just. Like supportive, like bigs me up, yeah.

She always wants to help wherever she can. It loves to see people do good. Yeah. She is a real girl's girl. And a great mum as well, actually. I'm pretty certain her daughter is obsessed with Richard. Aren't we all? Aren't we all?

Okay, so when she comes, we'll intro Jane to the pot. So we have the lovely Jane here with us. Hello, Jane. How are you? I'm good. Thank you, girls. How are you? We're fabulous. We are fabulous. So, are you a pod listener? I am. I listen to you, well. I'm so no more orders in the office. Love it.

Oh, my God. Although my mum comes in and packs the orders with me. me on a Monday and a Friday and I can't listen with my mum oh no no no what are you listening to oh no all that's swearing oh we did say that I need to get a swear jar and it's just less of the sex toy chat

you know and Jane did actually call me she said that was funny she says that you are a fellow Virgo Richard G rolled his eyes to and she says you just have a lot in common eh well I just think that's great compliment so how have you been tell us how's life

Life is great. Life's very good. Uh-huh, very good. It's been a bit of a rollercoast at the last couple of years but it's good, really good at the moment. Because I was saying actually I met you when we moved up here obviously because of Keith and Richard but also when you worked at, what was it, Premier Homes as an account manager, a fashion buyer? Account, national sales account. Yeah. And then.

I know I loved meeting you when you came to that barbecue because I remember you said to me, yeah, I'm just up visiting. I mean, I'm not moving up here. I'm not going to move up just because he's working here and I was like oh my god that was me because obviously when Keith was playing when he was a lot younger he moved down to Plymouth Argyle and I refused to go we had we own house we live together and I refused to go with them

until I had a job and my mum who's the most independent women I know said to me I can't believe you're doing this I can't believe you're not going to your own house together and you're not going to move with him and I'm not going until I've got a job and I was on a three month notice period I used to buy for International and I worked my notice and then I got a job buying for

a new look and I moved down and on the map it looked really close together, Plymouth and Weymouth is miles away, like two and a half hours away. And we were, I thought, I'll move down, we'll live in the middle and we'll both commute. And then when we get down, I did so much Far East travel. Their closest away game was like two and a half hours a week. So they travelled every Friday and it just didn't work out. So I ended up moving down. I lived in Weymouth and he lived in Plymouth. And all wags were down there were like, why would you move from Scotland and still live two and a half hours away? And I'm like, why would I move down and just follow him?

So who said that in my barbecue, I was like, oh my God, I love you. I love you. And then give it every six moments and I didn't move up. But I didn't move up until I got a job. You did. Yeah, but it was the best decision of your whole entire life. Oh, no, absolutely was. Loved it.

But out of all of the couples, I hope nobody minds me saying this, actually. No, you say whatever you want, it's a safe space here. Out of all of the couples that we met and we made some brilliant friends when we lived down south, we're the only couple that's still together. Really? That's wild. isn't it? All divorced.

So I think there's a lot to be said about being independent and having your own thing. Own life. Oh, without a doubt. I do think the distance at the beginning of our relationship helped made us stronger, definitely. We've always had a lot of distance, Keith and I. I wonder if that's why we're still like each other.

Because we first started going out with each other before I went to uni. I was like, I'm going to uni in three months. This is never going to be serious. And then moved away down to the borders, lived down there for four years. Did you? Yeah.

What's Keith do now? He is the chief operating officer of St. Mirren. He's in a suit. He's in a suit now. So he's done a master's in sporting directorship. And yeah, so he's the other side of football now loves it. So tell us briefly, I know we've just spoke about this just before you came onto the podcast, but the transition of working for 20 years as a fashion buyer and then going into your own business, something that you wanted to do for so long.

It was a uni project. Really interested to know how that happened. Yes, I've always struggled to get clothes. to fit. I'm a 30 double H Brass eyes. Double H? Yeah. ABC, D, F, G, H. Whoa. You wouldn't know would you look at me that I'm a good double H?

You've always got a good pretty broad. You're a tiny little thing. You are? Big, huge boobs. I'm an mainstream. I always really struggle to get clothes to fit. Always love fashion. Always love clothes. When I was younger and I was going out all the time, I really struggled to get good outfits for nights out because I used always have to be a big ugly braz.

And back then the bras are not like they are now. All was really struggled and then decided I wanted to study fashion at uni and during my final year you could either do a dissertation or you could do a collection. My maiden name was fairly so I decided that I was going to do

a collection for fuller bus girls that would actually fit me and I call Keith claims that this is his idea I don't actually think it was but we claimed the I named the collection fairly curved and got a brilliant reaction. I was always quite at fashion uni there's lots of really extra people

yeah there is yeah and I was quite commercial and quite quiet I worked I used to come home every weekend I worked on Ted Baker in the Saturdays in Glasgow so I used to come home every weekend and kept myself to myself and during that exhibition when we did the final collection I got a brilliant reaction to it but I also got offered a job as a fashion buyer the same week that I graduated and I never took it forward and I regretted it for 20 years I always thought what if and I looked at bravisimo was then really becoming bigger and bigger and bigger with the bras and then they added clothing and I thought right that's it I've missed a chance it's never going to happen now and then during the pandemic when we were all in lockdown we're clearing out the garage and I found

a box with all my old university designs I was like why did I not do anything with that so by then I was 40 had two kids and I just thought I couldn't sleep that night for thinking about it just the regret of not doing anything with it sat up all night did loads of research decided I was too old too busy didn't have the money to start a brand but I thought maybe I could do something else So did loads of research, realised there was no styling pages for Fuller Bus Girls. You can get petite, you can get plus size, you can get tall, mid-sized, but there isn't really anything for like small-band, big cup size,

which is really difficult to get clothes to fit you. So next day I just set up at Fairly Curved. So it's fairly with an I.E., which is my maiden name. And within like a week, I had a thousand followers, and it just grew and grew and grew. And then I lost my job during the pandemic. Yeah, I remember that. And the same week that that happened,

some of my followers started to message me and say have you got a shop can be by your clothes and I was like do what I'm going to do this I'm going to do it so just put a poll out and said what are the major problem items that you can't get for a full or bust expecting people to say like dressies or tops or shirts anything that was buttoned

and loads of people just said I just want a perfect fitting t-shirt just want a t-shirt that fits my chest and fits my waist so I got the old sewing machines out from the loft Did you? I used my skills because I'd worked as a buyer so I'd loads of good contacts in the industry sourced a really good organic cotton stretch t-shirt which was generous across the chest but quite boxy in the shape

and just worked for nights upon nights upon nights Keith used to bring me up a glass of rosy wine every way to help us stay working on a pattern to try and get the perfect t-shirt and that was how it started. Oh my God! Do you know what I'm so impressed by that what you did at uni

was a good enough idea to then start I'll want to do it 20 years later. Yeah. But you know what's the way? I would never have done it well. I wouldn't have done it well. Yeah. And I would have, I didn't.

So working as a buyer for 20 years, I had the experience of your profitability and your margins. Yeah. It would never have been profitable. And this, my business has been profitable since day one. I've been able to pay myself. You know, at the start a very small salary. Lots of people will say businesses take two years before they make any profit.

From the experience I had working as a buyer. Yeah. It's been successful from the beginning. Well, you knew, like, what to do and whatnot. to do really from us. I know the contacts you've met along the way. That's key. So that's what I would see probably has been the two strengths to the businesses. Because

I started the styling page, I had a community of engaged they weren't customers yet, but potential customers. And because I had never really planned to ever launch the brand, I thought it was too old and you know, didn't have the money to do it. So they trusted me because

I was never really selling anything. I was just giving out for ideas. And I never did it on an affiliated link or I was just doing honest reviews and never made any commissions or anything like that from it so they did trust me so I had a really strong community of followers and then I had a

really strong community of suppliers so we've just launched a curfriendly gene and I've done that with a supplier it's a weird weird story so basically when I was a buyer I worked for a really small company just after my maternity leave after I had my son there were a menswear

shop they asked me to add on the contact me and said, I've still on my turn to leave, the contact he made said, we do two days a week just launching our women's wear, which I did. One of their long-term suppliers came in who was like a menswear supplier and he kind of pitched this range to me

and it was horrendous and I was like, look, it's not going to work, it's not my bag, I don't think this is going to happen and he was like no, no, it will, it will, it's selling for me. He was a good friend of the owner, so look, I'll do a small trial and we'll review it from there. It was a disaster like I thought it would be. So I phoned him and said, look, this hasn't worked. I'm going to send you an email explaining why

I think it hasn't worked. And I basically said, gave him, you know, this is the price points that are working for us, this is the stales that are working for us, this is the shapes, this is the washes, blah, blah, blah, this is what I think you need to do. And I never really thought anything of it. He took it on the chin and he was like,

appreciate your feedback. And I never saw the guy again until 10 years later when I was starting fairly curved. And people had started to say to me, some of my customers had started to say, Jane, you're solving the fuller bust clothing issue, but I've got a curvy bum and hips. And if I find jeans to fit,

they're too big at the waist. got a big gap at the back, could you do something for jeans? And I was in Manchester, totally by chance stumbled upon this denim showroom, went in, asked the guy, what's the rise measurement on this gene, front and back, what's this wash, what's that? And he was like, who are you? How are you asking all these questions? How are you asking all these questions?

He said, do I usually just get boutique owners that come in and just buy a pack. Where have you came from? I think he thought it was maybe a competitor or something. And I said, oh, I was a buyer for 20 years. I've just set up own brand. I'm looking for a really good, car-friendly gene. And he was like, what's your name? And I said, he went, I know you.

And he went away and got his laptop, and he pulled out that email. So he was the supplier from 10 years ago. And he was like, I've kept this email. And I read it every now and again. He said, you've changed my business. So he's not a menswear supplier anymore. He's like a women's wear, denim women's wear supplier. Wow.

So he was like, I followed all of your advice. And he's like, I can't believe you've just walked in here. I cannot. What is it that you want to do? and I said, well, I want to do a car-friendly gene, but I'm such a small startup, I know I can't go to a factory, there's no way I'm going to be able to meet the minimums, yeah, just can't

do it, and he's like, I'll do it for you. Stop! So he's just, it took us a year to get the fit right, he's just developed, our car-friendly gene, he holds all the stock for me, call it off as when I need it. It's like it was meant to be? So, but I think it's just how you treat people.

Yeah. Throughout, so back to your point, Zoe, about it's amazing that I had that idea. Uh-huh. I would never have been able to execute it the way I have now I would never have had the support and a lot of my suppliers are like that that I've worked with over the years

that have really truly supported me they give me terms when really you wouldn't get terms initially and it's just because of how I've treated people along my career as a buyer they really do go above and beyond for me and it's thanks to them and my followers, my customers

that I've got the community that I've built that I'm able to have built it as quickly as I have. Yeah. And obviously you're branching out into other things, but in terms of boobs what, can you tell us why it is so important to like wear even clothes that fit you well in that department or like

bras? Because you can now you're now qualified to measure, aren't you? Yeah, I am. So I'll tell you another wags, a funny wag story if Amanda doesn't mind me telling you this. Hello Amanda. She'll know what this is coming because she messages me all the time saying, Jane, you changed my life that day, you changed my life.

So when Keith first started playing football I'd never, like you, I never wanted to be a wag Yeah And he was an electrician He was an electrician when we first started He fancied Keith all through school He wasn't interested in me He was interested, he was best mate

And he's football, that was it He left school, became an electrician And then we met up just before I went to uni And then he signed for a mother-o And I was like, no, no, no, no, this was not the plan I want the worky boots and the overalls Yes, I don't want to be in the dark You want that footballer?

Uh-huh So one of the first nights out we went on. I was dreading it. I was like, I don't want to be hanging about with wags. I just not my, I don't want to do this. Anyway, we went out. I had quite a few drinks and one of Keith's best friends now, Steve and his wife, Amanda, was out with us. And as I was getting a little bit more tipsy, more tipsy, more tipsy, I was like, Amanda, you've got the wrong brass eyes. There you never. You need to fix that. And she was like, what? I says, you're in the wrong brass eyes. She was like, I'm a 36e, which is the most common answer. Yeah. I used to

always wear a 36e, by the way. So she said, I'm a 366. So she said, I'm a 366. So she said, I'm a 366. and I was like you're never a year 36 C so I was like one in the toilet so I took that time I was like 30 g so I was like braw whipped off get that on in the cubicle and she came out and I'm not joking she looked like she was two sizes smaller

dress sizes smaller than what she was because our boobs the 36 is not supporting anything so our boobs were lower than what they should have been and as soon as you put the 30 band on 80% comes from your band support so as soon as you had that 30 band on it just supported the boobs and the

the cup actually fitted her so she wasn't spilling out so that made her boobs look smaller it honestly changed our complete shape so that's one of the reasons why your bra is so important to be the correct size because it's supporting you and it's lifting you and it's giving you a well-fitting bra can make you look smaller 100% and confidence and also it is just about confidence I mean I feel if I've had a few mess I've launched bras this week and the sales have been incredible and I've had a few messages from customers saying will you not do a non-wired bra? And I get it for comfort

but it's not doing anything for your shape it's not giving you lift and support so I'm one of them I think you're all the same aren't you like we are a sucker for a non-wired bra I'm wearing a wide now and I do feel the most supported in it to be fair because this was when I had fitted

from Bra Vissima I think but a non-wired bra I wear them because I want to feel like they're smaller I try and flatten them but I agree it doesn't do anything for my shape I would honestly get up every morning and hire someone to wrap me the way they used to wrap people to wear like corsets

just to flatten up. Like 50 year ago to flatten my boobs like I would do that. And do you know what I will say as well Jane like when I was a teenager my mom used to wear boob tubes all the time and I now don't have perky boobs at all I never support them as young. I then developed really bad stretch marks on my boobs as I was a kid like purple like someone had actually attacked me and I was only really. like 14 I hit puberty quite severely actually we're very young and I was like whoa where the

fuck are they come from and um no it was they were massive and my mom was like well you don't wear the right bras but I was constantly embarrassed by these big boobs I've made them smaller but then it was stretching my skin as they were trying to grow and I mean they're all right now over the years of making them a little bit better but they're not they're nowhere near I should have looked after them better as a as a teenager and they probably would be quite decent now so my daughter's in and she's like, I just want a big bum my mum, we don't get your boobs, she just wants some big ass. So she's really small chestied, actually.

She'll hate me saying that, but she's desperate to be a wee handful and she's not, she's really flat. And after, I keep saying, just, you know, they're coming, they're coming. Because all the women in my family are really full or bust. So the fitting that I had, when I went through the fitting with fantasy a couple of weeks ago, they were saying that basically if you don't support them, there's no muscles in your boobs but the ligaments

or is it the ligaments would that be right? But they stretch anyway so if they're not supported they're losing shape and they're never going to regain for the fullness and fullness

and so I always used when I was young I always used a really good bust cream by Clarence I don't know if they do it anymore but I just thought when I was younger I needed this and that just help firm the skin

around yeah so it just interesting My biggest regret as a teenager definitely was not wearing supportive bras because they just grew out of control at such a young age and then I was just like, get them away. It's horrible. I mean 80% of women wear the wrong brass eyes.

So 8 out of 10 women have got the wrong brass eyes and the average brass size from the last 11 years who's grown from a 34B to a 36 double D. I mean that's insane in the last 11 years. That's not a long period of time. So boobs are definitely getting bigger. but if you think of eight out of ten women or wearing the wrong brass size

most commonly it's a band which is too big and a cup size which is too small so they're not supported so they're not I mean you get us for shock that I'm a 30 double H I don't look like a 30 double H because well there's a few things so from my asylum page I've got so I wear like a

jumper or a so today I've got like a cable net jumper it's got a half sip on so that zip is raising the attention up above my chest that little bit of lace is raising the attention up above my chest A cable knit is working like a camouflage. It's disguising the size of my chest. But also I've got a really well-fitting brow on, which is making my boobs look smaller.

We're missing a trick here, Zohry. So basically that's fairly curved. So I do outfit of the day, every day on my stories, and I'll just say, you know, this is what I'm wearing to disguise. And sometimes, not so much now, but at the start, I used to get the odd comment, why do you want to disguise your chest? Why don't you just love them?

And I do love my boobs. I haven't changed them now. I didn't like them when I was younger. But I do, they make me, me, and I do love them. And it is difficult being a double H. Don't get me wrong. It's very difficult. But I've managed to live with them

and actually they've helped me grow up my really successful business. Because we were actually saying this yesterday. We were talking to a girl that we know that has had two boob reductions because she had massive boobs. And we, I said to Zoe like, I think she's got gorgeous boobs. But she was always hiding them. I'm a little bit more freeing. It's definitely come with age.

I don't mind flashing a bit of tit here and there. But what I will say is, the clothes that are designed in the stores are designed for women with no boobs or you shouldn't wear a bra and we love that sort of fashion but we can't wear it and that's where I think we probably feel a little bit left out sometimes we're going to Zah I'm like oh that's such a gorgeous top but it's backless we couldn't do it my nipples would literally tick on my knees like it's just not going to happen do you know what I mean so I just think but in those cases that's where we just get a bit disheartened don't we I just feel like

I didn't catch that. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. I just feel like because like I'm supposed I'm still quite young in a way, right? But mine are quite like plump.

That's gorgeous. And I know that's a good thing but to me that's then bigger. So what I would see is, I mean I'm 44 now and see if I could go back to my 20, 30 year old boobs. Oh my God, they'd be out every day.

Really? And I hated them then. but your boobs are never going to be as good today as they are today because tomorrow they're going to be older and sag here they are so love them yeah the job is out of me absolutely love them and the other thing I would say is so interesting about fitting so this is something that I'll say on my page all the time and I have got a really a strong mindset on this now so

when I was a buyer every company that we worked for we would have a fit model that would come in every week and we would fit all of our samples from the factory on her She was like a size 10. 12, normally a standard. One company was a 10, but one was a standard size 12, whatever the standard size 12 is. But that company had decided that measuring this woman

and she would work across all departments that she was our perfect size 12 fit model. And the samples would come in from the factory. The QC, the garment technician, would measure all the garments. And then before we started the fit session, she would measure the model. Get the measuring tape out, measure our chest,

her hips, or waist, the bum. and she would say things like now girls we're going to need to be really careful today because model has put on a couple of centimetres here or an inch there or this and she would say well I've got my period or I've just came back from holiday and I remember saying but our customers will have put on yeah they'll fluctuate as well yeah so why are we being so strict

with this I don't want to see her name but this poor girl because she's put on half a centimetre or this is ridiculous like you know it has to be flexible because our customers are flexible No, no, no, it needs to be. This is what we're measuring to. This is what we're fitting to. So I think about that all the time. And when I try things on in shops, particularly Zara, because I've known to be stuck in a few things in the changing rooms in Zara. Yes. I'm like, can't get out. They can't have to phone somebody to cut me out a dress.

I think this has been fitted on somebody that is nowhere near my shape, that is the perfect, whatever they deem the perfect size 10 to have model. Especially them is Spanish models. Especially those gorgeous Spanish models. not being fitted for someone, there's been no fluctuation, being taken into account in terms of having your period or putting on a bit. So I've really, and actually the bras, I've got a really strong mindset with that now where I blame the clothes. Whenever I try things on and they don't fit me, it's not my body's fault.

Yeah. I strongly believe that. It's probably wrong, but I strongly believe, I have convinced myself now that it's not my fault. Somebody has fitted this incorrectly at the point of fit. That's what I tell myself. So even the bras that I've just, launched. So the bras that we've launched on the website are the only bras that I

will wear that I feel comfortable and supportive fin. I will not put an uncomfortable garment on the range, especially not a bra. And if your bra fits you properly, it shouldn't be uncomfortable. Yeah. So if it properly fitted, it should be comfortable to wear.

And when I put this one on, that I've got on today... And it is fantasy, the brand. This is a fantasy brand. Yes, this is a fusion bra I've got on today. And when I first put it on, I was like, oh they've changed this this is a bit tight it's not that i've put on weight there would never be that it's the brass ball so i just convinced myself that through the years of working as a buyer and seeing how garments are fitted knowing that they're only fitted on one person um just gives me a completely different mindset in terms of how i how i fit and fairly curved so we fit on three people

we fit all our garments on myself who's about a 10 to 12 i would be a 10 if i didn't have my double late. She's probably about a UK high street size 12. My mum's a 14 to 16. She's a double G H cup and Linda who works in the office with me does Madman is a size 20, 22, sometimes 24 and I fit on all three of us so that I make sure that the garments that we add to the range will work across all size ranges. Amazing. Not just been fitted on a skinny size real beautiful Spanish model. Yeah. So in terms of buying from you guys and can, is it just online only or is this store? So it's online, yes. So it is all online.

10% of our sales are international, so we send orders all over the world, which is incredible. But we have been asked lately for more and more customers to come in and try things on, especially if you're full or bust. Try clothes on is a trauma.

Yeah. You know, like you said earlier, you pick things up and you think, that's just not going to work for me because it's backless or whatever. So I get more and more customers asking if they can try things on. So I don't want to work in a shop anymore.

I don't want to work at shop hours but I have accepted that people do want to try things like a showroom or some of them so we do work we work kind of school hours in the office so we do 10 till 3 10 till 4 so we allow people to come in

just by appointment only we've just changed our stock room into a big show room where's your showroom? It's in Port Glasgow Inverclyde oh nice okay so it's in the industrial state where Pleatex used to be so Pleatex used to make all of their Braz in Port Glasgow. You might like that more than me, I'm not sure. Yeah, North Face. It's in the same industrial estate. They used to have manufacturing there. So it used to be a really

buoyant industrial estate in Port Glasgow. There's not much there anymore. So it's quite sad that there's very, very little manufacturing in the UK anymore. So we're there. We'll open one Thursday late night a month and we'll open one Saturday a month and then if we're in the office Monday to Friday 11 to 3 customers can just drop me an email and come in by appointment. So we can get off all of us to follow you and book an appointment. Come on and see you. And there's lots, I've got lots of girls that aren't full or bust.

Yeah, of course. I was going to say that. Yeah, we call them a fairly flat. And they sometimes just follow for the outfit ideas because a lot of the things that, like the distraction techniques and things that I'll give in terms of outfits can work for everyone. Everyone, yeah. And they can work for flat-chested girls too.

Because if you want to raise attention away from your chest, you can use the same. So, yeah. That's really interesting. Well, you bought some bras here today to the, fit. We are struggling for a little bit of time here but I'm sure we can maybe fit on you. No! Well what we could do is talk about the main fit points in terms of how a brass should fit you. Yeah let's do that. Yeah. And then if you want we can try some bras on and see

if they give you a better fit from the ones that you're ready just now. If you're like, gee, you'll need to close your eyes. Why? I could fit you too. G, you can get moves. So number one, your band. So your band should be listened on your sorry fastened on your loosest hooks. Yep. You should only be able to pull it away from your body by an inch and no more. So if you can pull your band right away. I've got a good bra on today. I made sure I put

my bra vest-mail on. So yeah, an inch no more. You should swoop and scoop when you've got your bra on. What's that mean? So like get your hand right into your bra. Do you start looking? Yeah. Pull all your breast tissue forward and make and up and make sure it's fully encased in your cup oh yeah it is yeah good and if you've got a bit of oversfell then you're probably a cup

size too small so your boobs should be fully in your fabric yeah and then you want to adjust your straps so that they're fitting well along what bra are you wearing today and we weren't our favourite oh fenty favourite yeah which fenty i know it's really bad i know but it's really sexy underneath like a nice outfit no why i love it that makes your boobs feel smaller Because it's a balcony one, isn't it? It does make the feel... It's a little lessy, but it's just... It's a really good for that.

It makes you feel about it. I actually like this bra. I'll show you this one. Yeah, that's a nice bra. This is a bravoissimo one. Let me see that. That's good. Oh, gee.

It's quite nice. She's not looking. Yeah. And then the last thing is your straps. So make sure that your straps are fitted tight enough on your shoulder that you can just get two fingers underneath. So that should be nice. Not digging in, but just nice and supportive. Yeah.

But 80% is going to come from that band. So your band's. size needs to be good. I do think when they fit it, because I had this properly fitted about maybe nearly a year ago, to be fair, but from the bras I was wearing before, I used to always wear strapless ones

from Marks and Spencers, which M&S is good, but again, I would wear a 36C, anything, and on the tightest band to make them feel flat, but then in clothes, you'd see the overspill underneath the t-shirt. And then I had this one with a strap,

which I hate strap ones, but it was a bit lacy, unwired, and smaller around the back, because you said I'm absolutely not a 36. I think this might be a 34, I'm not sure. But it fits me far better underneath things like t-shirts and things. I feel more supported and better. But I'm still not happy with my bra collection, no way.

I've brought the comfy bras. So the smooth and seamless balcony bra, fantasy, which we now stock is a bra I wear every single day, so comfortable. And the fusion, it only goes up to G-cup, though, and the fusion bra is brilliant for a double H and then there's another bra called the Matilda

which is owned by Alomi which is part of the same brand and that's for Fuller Bust Fuller Figure so that starts at a 32 band and goes right up to a 48, 46% yeah okay so yeah it's just about getting a brand that works for everybody's a different shape as well

but if you're comfortable bra that works for your shape it will make your outfits look better and as a rule of thumb so you're saying you're a 30 you thought you were a 36. So as a rule of thumb, you would take 20 away from that band size to give you your dress size. So if you were to walk into me and say, can you fit me for a bra? I've got no idea what size I'm wearing.

I would say, well, what dress size have you got on? I'll say, if I said I was a 16, then it would be like 36. Well, let's start that a 36. Right. Oh, well, I'm not a 16. No, so you're, what are you, a 10? 12. 12.

10 to 12. So I would say, like, let's try a 32 on you. Interesting. That is actually quite. interest and that answer? Well, what we could do is, because we have run out of time, we could fit the bras over there for the story, for our stories on Instagram and we can share the videos then. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, we can leave this here and end it on a perfect

note. Good. Well, thank you so much for coming on. That was so important. Thank you for having. We had to talk about boobs soldy. I know. We wish we had longer, but that was amazing. Thank you so much, Jane. Thank you for having. Thank you. Well, we better go get our babies checked. Fitted and the rest of it. You can find it look up from his phone. Bye, guys. See you later. Thank you. Bye.