A Lot On Your Plate - The Manosphere, Boy Mums & Tinder Red Flags
Episode Date: March 24, 2026Hey piggies 🐷💖 This week we’re giving you the rundown of everywhere we’re loving in Glasgow at the moment - bars, restaurants, cafes and bakeries. We run through the rest of Zoe’s 30 ...before 30 list and share our thoughts on The Manosphere documentary before finishing with some classic listener dilemmas. Got a story or dilemma you’d like to share? Pop us a DM on socials or email contact@alotonyourplatepodcast.com!And remember you can sign up to Patreon for an extra episode every week plus bonus vlog-style content, competitions, group chat, early access to tickets and looooads more! See you there piggies 💖 patreon.com/ALotOnYourPlate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Tuesday to you, baby.
Hi guys, let's wave to the cam.
If you're watching on YouTube, hello, hello.
Hope you all had a wonderful week, and you enjoyed us being back.
I think everyone would have had a lovely week because we were part of it.
Yeah!
You know what I mean?
Yeah, for sure.
I really loved being back.
You enjoyed it, you had a good time.
Yeah, well, I didn't enjoy is listening back to the episode because we just hate doing it.
that but we had no cuts.
No cuts.
I've got this mindset now we were like,
we said what I said.
But one part I do, as I should cut out,
is me saying what does the vlog mean?
Why?
Because I know, like, then the explanation you gave.
Made total sense?
No, I already knew that, but I was more meaning like...
Like, where did it come from?
Yeah, I guess, I guess that, yeah.
I don't think you sounded to any, sorry.
And then I thought,
I'll actually work in, like, social media
and I'm asking where a blog came from.
But it was more like where does the log part come from?
I get it.
It's a video version of a blog.
Yeah.
But then I looked up.
And listen back to the bit we were talking about the screens.
Like I was some mad anti-screen police.
I'm like, I'm absolutely not.
All hail Miss Rachel.
Like, I fucking love that woman.
I've got a lot to thank her for.
Well, I think what I meant,
it took out, I got taken out of context.
I think I was listening back was actually,
I'm very anti-screen for restaurant dinner tables.
I'm trying to be that, should I?
say or for like the first solution yeah yeah maybe in situations I just I just met at dinner
table was in restaurants actually oh my god do I wish I could have whipped it out when we
were out for Mother's Day there on Sunday how was that anyway it was really nice it was
really nice second Mother's Day yes I forgot that to be fair that I had one originally but I was
fresh postpartum but I went to Csie's above social hub I got invited there the last time I
went, actually, we went for the opening, which was lovely,
but you know what it's like when you go to,
well, not everyone listening knows what it's like,
but you do, because you come as my plus one,
you know what it's like, guys, God.
It's terrible.
What I meant was when you go to opening events where,
you're maybe on a shared table,
you get like little bits of a menu,
you never really get to experience a true.
You get what you're given, you're not really ordering most of the time.
And that's probably why I don't really go to loads
because I want to be able to just experience it myself.
And if I like it, I like it, I don't.
But because I liked it, I got invited back.
And I thought, you know what?
I haven't been there for ages and they changed the menu.
You know, it's one of those things where you look at a menu and it's like, holy shit,
I want every single thing off this menu.
I love that.
It was so good, Zoe.
The margaritas are excellent as well.
But what I was going to say was I did go back in the summer when Spider-Man was being filmed.
My dad came up to see me.
Oh, that's right.
He was fascinated by it.
And I was like, you know what?
I know a secret little spot where we can go and get a good view.
A viewpoint.
Went up there in the restaurant.
No one was up there because I still feel like people don't know that.
an awful lot about CC.
And all the big windows, either side of the restaurant,
she could see Spider-Man flying through the fucking Merchant City.
And then we sat on the rooftop, had some guack and chips, margaritas,
in the sunshine, because it's got a really nice outdoor rooftop there as well, guys.
So do you know what else I think is really good is it's a great place to go for dinner
prior to a night out?
Because a DJ comes on at half nine, I think, so a little bit later.
A little bit like Seb's vibes.
There's a DJ.
It's quite dim.
candles on the table
and yeah like house DJ
so I really recommend that
Shoulder potting
Yeah
I bet a hey
Oof oof
I went for a couple more
restaurants actually
That I thought
Would be worth shouting about
I went to
I'm still shoulder bumping
Doof Doof
Just talking about dancing
Jensen is obsessed with dancing
Zoe I can't wait for you to see it
He just
No I saw him twirking
On your story the day
He really feels the beats
Like it really shoulder box
In his little
See his little hips
Like dof
Dove, dove.
I would swear.
Just loves it.
God bless him.
I really feel like he's going to be a bit musical, you know.
Oof, sounds perfect.
Anyway, I went to a few places.
I went to two new bakeries that I haven't tried before.
Maple Leaf bakery and Govern, you must try it.
I've seen bits about that before.
It looks nice.
It's a very random location, but I think smart because there's nothing else around it.
Let's say you're at the Transport Museum.
You've got the bridge across the Clyde.
It's on the other side.
Right.
So it can govern, basically.
And then I also went to Gigi-Ju.
I think that's how you say it.
Is that new?
New-ish, but no.
It's been around for a while.
But I think it deserves all its goddamn flowers
because it is amazing, Zoe.
Oh, show-O-C-JU.
Really, really good.
Like, in the sense of, I think their sort of USP is,
like they create a pastry,
but they make a different flavour every single week,
but they had like a really nice Mother's Day,
cardam and bun.
Then they had like a creme brule this.
And then they've got like a biscoff, pistachio, bloody almond quasson.
Really good.
And all the classics as well, but layers upon layers of very amazing patisserie.
High tick.
Yeah.
And that's on, sorry, that's on Victoria Road in Southside.
So I really recommend you try that.
I then went to the Clarence favorite spot for a roast,
but I've been quite, I've been back a few times actually for non-roasty stuff.
Non-roasty things.
Normal day-to-day food.
And I tried their lunch menu.
And it's 25 quid for two courses, very generous portions, excellent quality.
And 29 pound for three.
I didn't have three courses.
I wish I did.
But Jensen, it's not.
You get limited to tame.
It's just not a fully enjoyable experience when you've got a baby that wants to literally put every single thing in his mouth.
But loved that.
And then I went to the new Gannet.
Well, it's not the new Gannet.
It's called 1155, but it's the same people of the Gannet.
Right.
That was beautiful.
Definitely somewhere that I would recommend to go for a special occasion potentially.
Something fancy.
And they have a lovely private room at the top.
So this is good for you to know.
That's really good for events.
I think it sits maybe 15 to 20 people max.
Nice number.
Or maybe 12.
I can't remember.
Don't hold me to that.
But great for, let's say you're having a really nice birthday.
You wanted to be intimate.
They're going to host it for whiskey tasting things.
They had a big massive screen backdrop.
as well. So if you wanted to host like a conference dinner with some people, good to know.
There you go. And they did incredible temporal oysters. Oh my God. So it was so good.
Do you like oysters? The thing you need you fling back. Yeah, yeah. Remember that we had that
experience in the Russiaks hotels? In St. Andrews. Yeah. I don't think I've done at Sensing
because I was quite traumatized. But I can swallow pills a lot better since that.
Thank God for that. So maybe I could give it a bash again. But yeah, like crispy oysters.
I'm talking about with like hot sauce.
But you don't need, is it still on the shell?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there was the normal ones as well.
But they're detached, so it's maybe that easier.
You have to lift them a little bit with a teaspoon.
They had this buttermilk bread.
Oh, so good.
I went to ubiquitous chip.
Yes, I was going to ask you about this.
For Mother's Day.
It was nice.
I love the chip.
It was nice.
Yeah, is that all you got to say?
I think they were just flustered.
You know when you're just feeling it's flustered in here.
Right.
Mother's Day.
really busy
Sunday
so everyone was having roasts
and I had Haggis and Eaps and Tatsy's to start
that was 10 out of 10 no notes on that
really enjoyed I would recommend and you can usually get that as a main
yeah you can't yeah what I had in my head
and then we all got the roast and I got roast beef
and the meat was lovely
but I would just say the sides like the veg
you know when I can it's just a bit hard
and then the roasties you know it's quite hard to cut through a roasty
just things like that but it was overall enjoyable
like I would recommend going and give it a try
you sit in the um what is it
we sat upstairs
what do they call it the
bit like a botanical sort of
grand house if you like
that's it brasserie or something is it not
but I'd never eaten in there before
I had only ever went to the kind of outside
bit for pre-drinks at one of my birthdays one time
up the very top of it out of the back
it's got a rooftop there hasn't it? I came to that
yeah he did and it was quite small
Yeah.
So we went there for Mother's Day and yeah, we had a lovely time.
But I don't think I've eaten anywhere else since.
Sephora is coming to Glasgow and Edinburgh, St James Water and Edinburgh and Silverburn in Glasgow.
We were saying in our group chat.
Personally, I think, I would like to speak to the retail manager because I think you made a mistake.
I personally think, look, it's selfish reasons because we don't live really anywhere near Silverburn.
and it's just not my choice of place to shop.
I do actually think it has amazing shops in there though.
It's annoying.
But I just, I'm so pro retail.
Like, I'm so pro high street, should I say.
Yeah.
That should be in the bloody spot where JD Sports is on Buchanan Street.
That would be truly iconic.
Don't you think?
I just think.
We like town though.
We like going shopping around to a bit of mooch.
But then if you think of where people go if they're travelling to Glasgow
or stopping off.
Yeah, they're not going to over them.
or whatever, you're not going to Silverburn.
But then I feel like H Beauty covers that for me
and that's its silver band.
I know me too.
I know people are saying that it's a different customer
but I disagree with that.
I'd go, the same shit.
I just get a thing about Sephora.
I was saying this in the chat.
It gives me super drunk.
I think it's too like overpacked.
The branding's a bit tacky.
There's a bit too much color going on everywhere.
I know.
I don't know for the stripe.
But then I do think HBute is a bit of the other end though
where it's quite up market.
I'm a bit scared walking in there.
Yeah, same.
It's very intimidating.
It's kind of the way the new Zaras are.
You're kind of about like,
there's so much space I feel seen.
Yes.
And I don't actually know where anything is.
I can't find it.
Can't find anything in here.
But honestly, fantastic for Scotland.
Absolutely.
Really, really good.
We're getting it all.
We are getting it all.
And Top Shop is now in John Lewis in Bacan Street, guys.
If you didn't know that, we've not been to see it yet, but...
I'd like to.
I'm so happy Top Shop's coming back and let's hope that it ends up getting a space.
Although Mass and Maybe Duty got taken away from
Buchanan Street. Did you notice that?
So it did, by the way. I didn't ever go in there.
Did you not? You should have done because it was really good.
But I'm the same. I really probably
looked more on browse online, but I didn't really go in the shop.
When I went in the shop, it also felt a bit intimidating.
It's been like... Yeah, I went in it a few of times.
Didn't ever do anything for me, so I just gave up on it.
I felt like that with cos. Coss.
Never know how to say that.
How would you say cos?
Cause. But it's...
It should be cos, I think, because it's not a Zed.
It's so nice.
But anyway, cos. Coss.
When I go in there,
I love all the quality of stuff, but it's almost like I'm like,
I just don't know what to do here, so I leave.
I pick up maybe a nice t-shirt, plain one.
Agree?
And then go.
I'm a very eating.
Yeah.
All those shops like that, though.
And it's also because it's not the kind of shop
that you really want to, like, sit and look at the pricing of everything,
but you have to.
Yeah, because it's expensive.
Do you know what I mean?
Whereas, like, Zara, you know what a t-shirt's going to be between a bracket
that you're happy to spend.
Yes, correct.
Whereas in there you're about, like, this,
could be 20-pound or it could be 200.
Yeah. There's no in between.
Because it might be like, I'll pack a wolf.
Yeah. And other stories is a bit like that.
It's not that there's anything wrong with checking the price, by the way.
I just mean it's quite intimidating so you don't want to be like going through the labels
looking for the price and that. Isn't it awkward?
I know, I know what you mean.
It's an egg for me.
Everything's an ink for you.
What else is I got to tell you?
I had a facial yesterday project skim with Emma.
Yeah.
Who we were talking about last week.
It was lovely.
I just had like a kind of skin boost facial
to suck out all the badness from travelling
because I'm about broken out at the moment
but that just happens to me.
She's great in the routine and I've got acne again.
But it'll pass.
It will pass.
It too shall pass.
Genuinely, less is more.
Absolutely.
I do think that now I'm getting a bit older.
Although Emma keeps saying to me
you need to start using retinal,
just not for any reason,
but she's saying like that is definitely
something that you need to add to your routine
plus vitamin C because of lightening the pigmentation.
But I'm just like, oh, retinal is just,
number one, it's expensive,
and number two, I'm just like, oh, CBO.
Just because I don't want to, like, peel and...
I know, and there's only that point you're using it
if you're using one that actually does that,
whereas the others aren't maybe strong enough.
Yeah.
So you wouldn't get...
You wouldn't need to go through the downtime,
but then is it doing anything?
Unsure.
Not sure either.
Not my department.
So,
That was a nice little start to the ep.
We were meant to tell you what was on today's ep.
And we've just spoke about half of it.
But let's take the trash out early, Zoe.
Let's get the trash out at the door.
At the door.
And we're going to have to talk about Manosphere.
They're by Golden Manusphere.
We're now on the 17th of March we're recording on, right?
So by the time this comes out in a week's time,
it probably won't blow over.
It should never blow over.
I think it was an amazing documentary, actually.
Louis Thru does things so brilliantly where he allows people to speak.
their truth but they expose themselves at the same time so it doesn't really like he does anything
that bad and I think it's great and I think initially and probably what a lot of people might
have thought is why we highlighting these people they don't need airtime whatnot but it's a little bit
like adolescence when we watched that program no one really knew or quite understood it until the
end it was like you never really knew if he killed the girl or not yeah but you were so shocked
to find out that he did and as were the parents because they had no idea what was going on behind
closed doors kind of vibe.
I was really shocked with that actually.
Yeah, yeah, I remember that actually.
You were a bit like, what the hell was that?
I really thought there was going to be a twist.
But there wasn't, and I think that's probably why it was so shocking is because it spoke
about something that is quite new to people or so we thought.
I think he's a good actor by you that way boy.
He's in with Rhinel nights, which we forgot to speak about.
Yeah, and I will speak that today.
So my two pence worth, I think I've got a lot to say on it, but I don't want to take up
too much of the episode on it, to be honest with you.
But, and I think a lot of people online have really, have really nailed it with their thoughts.
And I agree with a lot of it.
But I think it's great to put it out there because I think it's made parents aware of maybe what their children are consuming.
They may have recognised traits of their boys or what they're saying.
They're like, ah, that's where they're getting that from.
Yeah.
Because they probably have no idea.
Because these people aren't really primarily on like Instagram or Facebook.
So we wouldn't see their content.
I haven't really come across any of them.
No, I have not.
And it's also really good as well, I think, and this is what I thought about, is women that might be in a certain relationship with a man that has started to consume that content and they're realizing that they're acting different towards them or they've maybe trapped in some sort of situation where they're like, why is he being like this with me and they're like, okay, this is what they're consuming, this is what they believe, this is their beliefs.
So I think it's really good to recognise that.
But yeah, and I don't know, what's your thoughts on it, Zoe?
because you watched it recently.
I just watched it a few days ago, I think it was.
I just honestly, and this isn't that,
I don't think it's serious,
but I just found it truly honestly laughable.
Comical?
Well, it is in a way, isn't it?
Why do you think that's the truth, for example,
the sperm living inside a woman?
That baffled me.
I'll never get over that.
So if you've not watched it
and you're not going to, but you want to know what we're talking about,
these guys believe that
they're called Red Pill Podcasting
podcasters, they're basically men that just spout
utter nonsense. Yeah, misogynistic shite.
Misogynistic is what it's all about really.
Misogyny you should say then, isn't it? Fuck knows.
Anyway, and they're saying
what is it if a woman has slept with a man
the sperm can live in there for months?
Well, it was basically saying that on his podcast
this is facts to all these young boys.
Also, I find it a little bit predator.
Like, don't they find it really strange
They've got all these young lads like idolising me
You're obsessed with them and you're a predator.
Yeah.
Like we wouldn't want like teenagers
idolizing us for doing this podcast
We want people ever like similar age.
But they pry on people's insecurities and memorable little boys
and saying to them that I'm going to give you some fast cash.
This is not all of them but it was most of them that they focus on.
I'll give you fast cash and they almost
promise them the world.
I think it's a huge pyramid scheme.
I think a lot of things in life actually
is very pyramid schemy.
Loads of things.
Culty pyramid schemy behavior.
And they've found that they are smart.
Some of them, they are so thick,
but also so smart because I don't even know
if they even believe what they're saying.
They are rage baiting to the ultimate max.
I think that.
And they're prying on weak people,
or hopefully not weak people,
but the people that may be a bit insecure,
or maybe guys that have never been with a woman.
So they're like, you know what?
They're the problem.
You're not the problem, they are.
And I can teach you how to be this ultimate, masculine man.
Like alpha male?
Alpha male, yeah.
And you know what I was thinking, right?
Where I think a lot of people get things a bit twisted.
And I'll tell you something that I said the other day
that I was really disappointed in myself on,
but I'm going to hold my hands up to it, right?
Wow, right, okay.
Yeah, I hated myself for it.
I felt ill after.
But the word feminine and my husband,
masculinity, I think, and I'm sure we can all agree that I have a lot of masculine energy.
And I love that about me, actually. I think I really like it. I don't try and change it.
I think becoming a mum has definitely made me feel more in my feminine. It's made, and what I think
people need to understand is masculine doesn't mean man and feminine does not mean woman at all.
We all have both energies in us. Yeah. Right. How we express it is different. And since having a little boy,
I've also noticed, and I feel anyway,
and I know a lot of other friends that have little boys,
boys are the most sweetest, empathetic, kindest.
They're born so sweet, so kind.
They love them, like, they love to be nurtured.
They, I think girls are quite sassy and fierce and independent.
They are souls.
I don't think girls are souls.
A society and maybe certain type of men sort of rip this out of them
at a certain age, just like, that's not man enough.
You can't cry.
Don't show your emotions, blah, blah, blah.
And that's kind of where they stop expressing themselves.
They stop expressing their feminine.
Yeah.
Right.
And I just think if we all understand that both energies can exist and stop trying to remove the feminine
from every single man because I actually love the soft side of Richard, like, nurturing side of things when he shows emotions, kindness.
Yeah.
That is feminine energy and that is what I'm attracted to.
I am also attracted to the masculine energy,
but he's also attracted to my masculine energy in some way,
my feminine.
Do you know what I'm trying to say?
Yeah.
So, anyway, rolling back to a comment that I made,
and I think it was in the heat of the moment,
but basically dropping off Jensen at nursery is really, like,
it's horrible.
I've hated it.
I've mentioned a bit on the podcast, on the vlogging, on Patreon,
but I found it really difficult to the point where I had to stop.
I'm sure anyone listens to this can relate.
It's a horrible few months.
So Richard said, I'll start dropping him off.
Anyway, we're having a little argument as we bloody do,
like bickering one night about it.
And he was like, you know, I have to go and take him to nursery now.
And I was like, well, you said that you would.
In my head, I'm obviously panicking thinking like,
I don't want to have to do that again.
Yeah, watch what you see.
He's like, well, that really upsets me.
He was like, well, it upsets me too.
I was like, oh, man up.
And as soon as I said it, I thought to myself, that is awful.
Like, and I instantly said sorry,
because how dare I tell him to man up?
because he also has emotions too
about the same thing I have emotions about.
Yeah, I know.
And actually you would want him
to be affected by that.
It would be weird if he was like,
oh, I don't care that he's crying, screaming when I'm putting him in.
Totally.
Like that would be, you would hate that.
I would never want him to say that to Jensen,
to man up in a situation
or never express his true self.
And I think that this documentary
is all about insecure boys that, weirdly,
which they admit it,
they don't have a father figure around them.
No.
A lot of them didn't.
It was quite a pattern, wasn't it, of guys that didn't have someone good to?
Or even just a bit of a rocky, slightly dodgy upbringing.
Yeah.
With whatever parent.
Which is weird.
The whole time I was watching it.
And I think, one, I'm obviously not a mum.
So you guys had already discussed a lot of it coming from my mum's perspective as well.
So I was watching it thinking my thoughts and then feeling like maybe I think definitely if I was a mum though.
Or I think it's actually.
all to do about upbringing, but maybe that's making excuses for the guys.
But then actually when we spoke about it, we were all in agreement that your upbringing's got
a huge part of playing it. And it does for me. Yeah. I think you can definitely be brainwashed.
Anyone can if they catch you on the wrong day or you are vulnerable or with these guys,
maybe someone's in a lot of debt and they think, well, if I can make money quick by buying
into these guys schemes or whatever it might be, I get that. But I also think if you've been brought
up in a well-mannered, respectful home, whether your parents are together or not, I don't
I actually think that matters.
But you see that things should be equal
in the way you should respect someone
and I just think it would be so difficult
to brainwash that out of you.
Yeah.
I think it would take a lot.
Whereas there's people that don't come from that,
sadly, which do get brainwashed by these fannies.
And they probably haven't got that sort of male figure in their life.
Which is actually, it is a shame for them
because they don't know any better
and they're just thinking, that sounds like a good life.
I just think all those men are insults.
It's insulting to all the men that I know
my life. I'm not saying they're all perfect, but what I mean is I wouldn't want anyone to
think that, watch that program and be like, oh, men are like that.
Well, that's more divide. Yeah, I feel quite strong about that as well, because that's another
thing I said was, I don't really feel like we're surrounded by people like that. I can't really
think of someone in my life or any of your guy's life that I think is remotely like that.
No.
That doesn't respect women and thinks they should be doing everything and thinks that they should only be
one guy and blah, blah, blah.
But I think we are, we're the generation that doesn't believe that.
And it's people, our agey's kids that are going to get drawn into unless we stop it.
Obviously, there's the odd person here and there that is.
But I do just think, and maybe it's just the type of people we are, and we just maybe wouldn't
buy into a relationship like that, I don't know.
I've seen a lot of men, which I think is really good to speak out about it and basically
saying, like, any guys that are in this, please reach out.
Because I saw a comment, I said this to you, on someone's
post when I'd first watched it and it was like has anybody, are there any charities out
there that can help men that are really sucked into this red pill manosphere world that
can't get out of it?
Because it was like a faceless account.
I'd imagine that he was like a cry for help.
Like I don't like this anymore.
I don't like who I'm becoming.
Yeah.
I'm probably putting money into things and I'm not making any money.
I realize it's a scam.
I realize it's just just full of hate.
and yeah when they wake up from it they're probably like how do I get out now
yeah no by the way and I do think there will be more people coming together that will help other
men become like their father figure or just don't I think people are so quick to judge on stuff
like this as well that I'm like if people can hold their hands up and say I didn't even know he said
all that I just saw he was on a podcast once that I like and thought it was quite funny yeah
maybe he wasn't talking about anything to do with that on that podcast so it is difficult
I just think in this day and age people are so quick to judge and cancel and I kind of hate that
that. In fact, I really hate it.
Yeah. So I feel like I just hold a wee bit of
like give them a chance. Like let them
explain. Yeah. Obviously these
what you're talking about, you don't go fuck about anyway so you're like, you can
go bye. And also, I didn't
announce my departure to the world and
beg them out. I just was like, okay, fine,
we have different views, see ya.
I think that's what people need to understand as well with social
media. You know if you don't like something, you don't like someone.
No one's holding you hostage to have to follow or watch
their content. You can literally go
about your day and consume more positive things that make you feel a better person.
I just don't know how folk can be arsed.
I've been thinking since got back from Australia going to post your fucking Australia dump.
Can't be arsed?
Can we say it?
I can't be arsed.
Why not?
I will do it one day but I've got so many pictures.
I'm just like, I'm overwhelmed.
Like I can't be arsh looking through them and like picking what ones I think is the
fucking best picture of the sea because I took 45,000.
That all looked the same on the exact same day.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it's just the thought of it.
I'm like, how can people be asked your keyboard bashing folk?
I don't get it.
Anyway, that's our two-pence piece slotted right in.
Do you know, I always think about this now,
but I think, as well, I think just having a baby's way,
the fucks I give, I just give so less fox.
It's brilliant.
But we can have different opinions to people.
Doesn't mean you're right, doesn't mean we're wrong,
doesn't mean we're right, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
Like, it doesn't matter.
I also feel like I sit myself quite confidently and I'm not overly passionate about anything,
but I know I always kind of see the kind of morally correct side of things, if you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Which I know obviously people think is different.
Exactly, exactly.
But as a...
You mean you're a good person?
Well, yeah, kind of, I guess.
I think, you know, if you're a good person or not, and I'm a good person.
I want to know your other 15 of your 30 before 30.
Oh, I forgot about that, by the way.
How exciting.
It's the first of my bloody list.
How exciting.
I know I promise you guys, we are going to talk about dilemmas.
Dilemmas, because we've got some nice ones for you.
Right, so I got to 15.
The last one I said was a cooking or baking class.
Right.
Visit Ireland.
Yeah, we're going to go to Donnie Goh.
I have never been there.
Crazy behaviour.
It's crazy behaviour.
considering my second name is Quinn.
Yeah, you're Irish.
You've never been to Belfast.
Never been to Ireland.
You've never been to Dublin?
Never been to Dublin.
Belfast is better.
I said what I said. I said what I said.
Everyone I know that goes agrees with you.
I said what I said.
Learn to use chopsticks.
You?
Hey, I've got something that...
It's ticked off.
Oh.
Because basically, I've always been able to manage it,
but not comfortably.
So I was quite a stressful process
like, is it going to fall?
Is it going to fall?
And I would say I'm not 100% there
but I did give me a good bash one night in Australia
when we were eating sushi.
Good bash!
And Molly and Craig were like really teaching me
and they were getting quite frustrated
because I just really couldn't get the hang of it.
But there's just something about
where my attention goes
that's just not the right place.
Right.
So I would say it's still a work in progress
but I've ticked it because I've really gave it a bash.
I mean, I eat that sushi there with it, quite the thing.
Brilliant.
So there you go.
Just every time you go out for sort of sushi or Asian food,
then just ask for some chopsticks and just eat a bit of it,
and then you'll get better and better.
It's more if there's a fork there, I would rather the fork,
but that's what I want to get away from.
But then think about the chopsticks.
It's really good for, like, making it last longer.
Last longer, and you get fuller.
What's the word I'm looking for?
It digests better to you.
Yeah, so you actually get fuller in a better way.
you're not instantly full indigestion, et cetera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clever.
I actually swapped one to climb the Sydney Harbour Bridge once I'd done it.
I don't know if that's she...
What did you swap out?
What I swapped was to visit my wee sister in Egypt
because she's not going to Egypt anymore.
Okay, that's totally fair.
And then I thought to myself, that was an achievement.
That should have been on my last.
Have you ever...
Would you ever want to hike a Monroe?
Well, at Kilimanjaro.
No, Zoe.
Fuck me.
and Monroe is in Scotland.
I'm doing that with my brother soon.
Are you going to do Ben Lomond?
Do you want to come?
Are you going to do Ben Lomond?
We've not decided.
Okay.
Well, we might start a bit smaller.
Ben Lomond is the closest Monroe to Glasgow
and it's 915 metres, I think.
I've done Benin which isn't in my row.
No, it's not on my row.
It's just under.
But it's a lovely view.
And it's hard.
Well, it's the elevation of Benin.
Benin's like rock climbing.
Yeah, it is.
It is hard.
And it was scorched
on the day I done it.
Oh, nice.
But no, I would.
Ben Leibb is fun.
It's not on my list though.
Ben Leddy is easy.
I think Ben Leddy.
I've done about six.
No, definitely.
You know what?
Why don't you do Benivis?
What the fuck?
Just take both off.
The highest in Scotland,
sorry,
in the UK, stupid me.
And it's also classism and rogue, of course.
It's not even on my list,
but I think I should add it.
I think you'd.
Is you got any sort of fitness achievement in there?
You've got the running one on there, haven't you?
10K?
Sorry, sorry, Zoe, come on, finish it.
I'm interrupting you.
Oh, I thought the 10K disappeared.
It has not.
So, climb the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
tick.
24-hour digital detox.
I've not done that yet.
Now, that means,
you don't mean, like,
you have your phone and you get rid of social media.
You mean your phone stays in a lockbox
for 24 hours, yeah?
Quick.
So you're uncontactable.
No phone for 24 hours,
not just no social media,
no phone.
And what's quite a lot of,
annoying is technically and a roundabout way
I could have done it quite easily when I was travelling
if I thought about it.
I know but then I feel like that doesn't
count. But it's also out of your control in that
sort of circumstance where does I want to be like
living a normal day in my house
working whatever issues I need it for work
but I don't think you should work it needs to be
a day where you're... No I know it just needs to be a day where I'm
rolling about in the grass. I'm touching grass, I'm eating grass.
How about, oh my God, how about we...
Go somewhere and leave it home?
No, we go and hike, or you and your brother go and hike Ben Nevis.
That's going to take you a good eight hours, six to eight hours, right, up and down.
Yeah.
To get there and back as well.
Take a little digital camera with you, though.
Yeah.
So you've got the mems.
Well, I've got about 150 film left on my digital camera I use.
And you're really touching grass.
That will feel euphoric.
It will.
So there you go.
Do something like that would be so good.
Like team it with something
that way you are touching grass.
And you're a bit busy as well
you know, make it go faster.
Yeah.
I don't think I'll be,
I could do social media no bother, I think.
Oh yeah.
It's just the phone part.
But I would need to tell everyone
because I'm quite a good reply
and a good answer to the phone.
And people would be worried about you.
So it's like just everyone know
that's not crazy that we have to do that now.
Just let everyone know that you're not going to be able to content me
for one whole day.
One whole day.
Which, by the way,
for about eight to ten hours of that,
everyone's sleep me anyway.
So who the fuck I actually cares.
And when I did Killy, that was like a two week digital,
well, maybe not two weeks, five days digital detox.
For me, by the way.
And my labour.
I'm not ready.
Right, make a vision board, a tick.
Pick.
I hate this one.
Run a 10K no stop.
Why?
Did I say that?
Because you can do it and you know you can.
Why did I put no stop in though specifically?
I just feel like we can stop.
But that's, to me, to me you're not running a 10,
If you do stop.
That's my point.
Do you know what I mean?
That's like saying you're not buying a marathon
because you walked a bit.
No, it's not
because if it's just a one-time achievement.
Yeah, fair.
I think you need to do a 10K and not stop.
Because you wrote that for a reason.
But what I need to tell you right now
is I'm not doing any running.
Yeah, but people run marathons
without any training.
Don't advise.
I have no intention of running.
I'd like to change that one.
Maybe the fitness goal can...
We can look at the fitness goal one night.
Watch a sunrise, I did that.
And with intention, by the way,
so getting up early, going to the location, watching.
I did do that in the show you, but it was very cloudy.
So that's a bit of a shame that I've ticked it off, nonetheless.
There's a sunrise every day, so we could give that another bash.
No, I know.
But it was more, I've never intentionally done it.
Climbled and Ben Ann and go and see a sunrise.
It's all happening in Ben Ann.
No, Ben Nevis, when you'd need to get up at bloody one.
You could just start at night.
Yeah, yeah.
Walk with the pigs that snout about.
I want to do that with Jensen.
Wait, what is snout about?
It's a place in Dundee that you'd do a walk with the pigs.
I love how you just casually said that.
And then you have a cute...
I think I want to go to the swim with the pigs in Barbados.
No one want to go into Snout About in Dundee.
Well, I would love to go to Barbados, but it feels a tight deadline, September.
So I want to go to snout about.
What's this, please?
It's a farm that you can walk about with the pigs and things.
Someone sent me at one time and then get a wee lunch at the end.
Have you seen the pigs that we went to?
Is it Green Hill Farm?
The farm shop that we went to with Carrie.
And Jensen was in the carrier with me and I showed you the pigs.
They've had little piglets.
Cute.
But surprise piglets.
They didn't know.
Surprise pregnancy?
What the hell?
I've got a savings goal.
A monetary savings goal.
Oh, I'd tell us.
No.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Cookie and overnight tick
Make a lasagna from scratch
I still have not done that
That's fine, you've got ages
I'm going to follow your recipe
Yeah it's a really good recipe by the room
Get a clonic irrigation
Is that what you call that
Get that off you fucking
30 before 30s
No I think that's good
Right okay fair
I don't want to do that
But I know it would be good for me
Yeah
So that's quite
I would say that's quite like I'm a bit
You should definitely have it.
I really like them.
I'm a bit scared to do that.
Don't be.
It's just uncomfortable.
That's what I mean,
no, I don't want to put myself into comfort.
What's the uncomfortable part is when they tell you to go to the toilet after at the end
because you're full of gas and it's literally like you've got diarrhea because they're like outside the door.
Oh.
You have to empty yourself.
It's the awkwardness of it all.
It's honestly not awkward.
They don't make you feel awkward.
You could come with me, I think.
Oh, can't wait.
What a date.
I think that's a good.
Bumol washed out.
Yay.
I think that's a good thing to do.
That's what chronic irrigation is, by the way, guys, if you wasn't aware,
it was where you actually wash your bowel out.
I think my mom need a good...
I said that in the pod, didn't I had done...
About 10 years ago and the bit of broccoli came out of the tube.
Yeah.
It was like, oh, look.
I was like, oh, I didn't have that for like days.
Touch my toes at Pilates.
Hugh, that's going to take some time.
I'm so far away from my toes.
It's unbelievable.
I've got the tightest hamstrings known to man.
Okay, well we can change that.
Go see Le Maiz in the theatre.
You've not seen that yet?
No.
Zoe, talk to me a little bit about legally blonde.
What's the drama?
Let me tell you my last one.
Okay.
Number 30, sponsor a dog. I've done that.
Aw.
He's called Toblerone.
Where's he from?
Romania?
He's in Dogs Trust.
Oh, in Scotland?
In England.
In England?
I don't know, it's the UK somewhere, forget.
Aw.
But his name's Toblerone, he's a bejean, and he's nine.
Oh. So what do you do then? You just pay it monthly?
You just pay monthly and you get wee updates of them.
Sorry, that's really sweet.
But now I feel bad that he's still there.
But apparently he likes it there.
He's been adopted a few times. He just doesn't settle anywhere else, I have him dogs trust.
So what can you do?
So would you like to adopt a dog then one time? Is that what you're saying?
Rescue a dog.
I would like to, but I just think, and I know everyone's for it over getting...
a puppy right but it's so difficult because a lot of them come with like anxiety potentially or
like they don't want to be around kids or another dog and whatever and it is quite limiting for people
yeah like i get if you can do it absolutely do it but well one i'm in a flat with we do of a garden
but it's not private it's not just ever so they really bet you don't they when they come in
it's actually so hard to adopt a dog yeah my grand tried for years and can never get one and then
a lot of them don't want you have another dog so that's your goose as well where is it
I actually think if I had another dog
with cookie it'd be easier. My mum saw
that it was a wee, like, basically a wee cookie up for adoption.
The other day and she's seven months.
I was like, you should just get her.
And then cookie would have a sister.
No, Zoe. I say no.
See, if I had a house with a garden, I would have gotten a load, yeah.
Because I think it's kind of similar to kids, I would imagine,
as you put another one in the mix, they'd deal with each other.
Yeah. They're not then...
Perfect, you've got a little mate.
She's not then trying to play with me and, like, rip my mum.
arm off and they're written each other's arms off and that's fine you can just leave them in there and shut
the door and let them play put them out the back yeah anyway we need to quit a topic of weather
heights we've said twice now we'll talk about it we've not thoughts loved every second of it same
I think he's really attractive do you he was really attractive when he came back and he had a glow
up with his only then oh my that earring in the tan correct I didn't think he was attracted before that
And I think he's attractive at the moment in real life
because that's what he looks like.
Yes.
But I don't think he's not really my type
when he doesn't look like that character.
Do you know what I always think, though,
about celebrities and people that are like attractive on screen
or even people in Love Island,
I always imagine them, seeing them in the room
that I'm sat in right now.
I think if you saw him, you'd collapse the gown.
You would collapse on the ground.
He's about six foot nine.
I think you would be like, holy fucking merely.
You would.
I always think that about,
We always talk that about Curtis from Love Island as well.
I think so.
People love Curtis from Love Island.
And I don't know what it is about him, but they, I think he's attractive.
But when he walks into a room, I'd be like, I know for a fact.
And where he's his shimmy.
Yeah, shimmy.
But even then I'd be like, shimmy, shimmy.
I genuinely think he is, he would be sorry, in the flesh, drop dead gorgeous.
No, thank you.
Because he's tall.
Tall energy, though.
We all love a tall guy.
And they're just kind of.
capture the room.
It's when Jacob smiles and that we
gold or silver tooth, whatever it is, sparkles.
I think you'd be like,
instantly captured.
But anyway, the film was amazing.
I loved it. I think she's unbelievable.
Did you know Margot Robbie was three months
postpartum then?
I've seen that recently. How the fuck?
How? The...
Baby brain! I wouldn't remember the script.
How did you even know the script at that point?
She's incredible.
She is. She's a good bit older than him.
Did you know her?
husband who I think is really hot.
I think he's all right.
Nah. Another one saw him in the flesh.
I think I'd drop dead. He
he produced that I'm sure.
Her mentor. He was watching. He was watching
when he sucked her fingers.
Sniffed them. Was it?
No, he sucked them and sniffed them, I think.
I think that's a kink.
Must be.
A kink I could get into.
How can you watch?
But then you're watching your wife do that when she looks like that
So you would be like fucking go on
I would
That's not jealousy
That's like a, that's my fucking wife
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah
And also to him
Jacob's a good bit younger
No threat
He's not
He's meant to be really sound guy by the way
Isn't he like
Did you see he took his mum in the Oscars?
No
Haven't seen much Oscar chat
He really loves his mum
much just cute as well
and they were looking at each other's eyes
I thought it was a bit weird at first
but then I thought that's his mum
that's cute
it was a bit you know like a couple
kind of turned around like smile to each other's eyes
like they were kind of that I thought
I'd be a bit uncomfortable
you'll know exactly what I mean
when you see the clap
I'll show you after
oh watch it is on take time
is it like slow-mo
yeah kind of you know exactly
what I'm talking about
when they're on like the red carpet webber
and they're kind of changing their positions
and then they're smiling and then he's probably just really proud of them in.
Like glances and they both look each her.
And at first I thought, who is this woman?
Anyway, we're 53 minutes in and we've not spoken about a dilemma.
We'll do some over on side dish, but it depends how juicy they are.
Oh, this is a good one to go off, Zoe.
This is bloody porelli and secway.
I'm strapped. I'm ready.
Thoughts on men and their mums.
Wow, very convenient.
Been in a relationship for six years
and our biggest problem to this day is his mum.
It's quite an ace way, but yeah, actually.
They expect him to drop everything for them.
They bring him down about everything he does
unless it suits or benefits them.
And they are just constant bad vibes.
I would be here till next year if I was to give all the details.
I don't know what else I can do or say to make him see
that they are an issue and that it's not just me moaning.
He says they have always been this way.
and I think he's just used to their behaviour.
However, this worries me as I would like to have a child in the next couple of years
and I don't want this hanging over us
or this behaviour becoming the norm for our future family.
I think very valid.
I have wondered if things will ever change or if I'm wasting my time,
but the idea of leaving and starting again terrifies me.
Any help or suggestions, welcome.
That's a real shame.
That's a tough one if he doesn't see that.
Yeah.
Because how do you make them see it?
Do you know the issue will be, though,
you'll start a family and then it'll start seeing it.
because he's got his family of his own and he will he will see it he probably does know deep down but
i guess at the moment as well if you have not got kids he's not really got a reason to not do things
for his family yeah like if he's available and he's not got much responsibility in terms of
a child then he's like yeah sure i can do it yeah whereas bring a child in he's going to be like well
no we've got a kid to deal with yeah so it would help but it's like do you take the risk
I just think the family thing's so difficult
because he's obviously just been brought up
as being that person in the family
so he's used to it
which is why he can't see it
but surely he gets tired of it
maybe he just doesn't want to bitch about his family though
if you look guys are a bit like that
they sort of become the
essentially that the provider or the person
that helps and fixes things in the family
like if the dad's maybe no longer there
or has never been in the picture
or is now just
getting old then it's like the
son steps up to the dad position for everyone involved.
But it must be really frustrating for her.
Like she says that they're probably planning things
and he drops everything at a hat
because his mum or family need him.
She's like, okay, bye, we're not doing that now.
Which depends the plan, doesn't it?
Depends, yeah, depends on the situation.
I completely understand your frustration though.
To answer your question,
I personally, I would just keep going on.
I would just have to keep saying this is just not going to work.
Yeah.
And maybe, would you actually sit there with them and say, like,
would you, have you sat with them and said,
I really want to start a family with you,
but I do have my concerns that, number one,
I don't want our family to be like this.
And number two, how is it going to be
when there's a child in the mix?
Yeah.
Like, has he seriously thought about that as well?
I think even though it'll be tired in as well,
you need to voice every time it happens
because if you're only choosing, like, one every fifth time,
he's not seen it then.
Yeah.
Doesn't feel like a lot to him.
You don't want to seem like a nag, do you?
I know, it's so difficult like that.
And the worst thing that could happen in this situation is then it becomes,
it becomes in between you both, it comes in between you two,
and then you break up and then he'll be like, flipping out.
I can't believe that I've allowed that to happen almost.
I just, I don't know, I've got the hate for his family
because I'm like fucking leave him alone.
I know.
Like, let him live his life.
But then we also don't know any circumstances.
Because I definitely am a yes person.
Just say, for example, me and Jason said,
right, on Saturday we'll go a big walk
and then, you know, nip to B&M and that.
Just of one of those days, you're just kind of prancing about,
but like we quite enjoy that.
And then a Saturday morning.
And then my mom was like, would you mind drop me in town?
I'd be like, yeah, I've not really got any plans.
Yeah.
Because to me, that's not really plans as such.
Okay, but to Jason, it is.
Well, I think to the other person it always probably is
because you're planning on doing it.
And I'm now not not planning on doing it
but I'm just planning doing it maybe a different time.
That's true.
To me I am free to take my mum though.
Yeah.
Because it's not concrete.
It's not like a reservation time or a cinema ticket time or whatever.
It's my day is loose.
But I equally understand that.
And you'd feel really terrible if your mum didn't know how to get to somewhere
if she really needed to be dropped off.
All I'm doing is fucking buying cleaning products for B&M
for the fucking sake of it.
So I do think there's like...
10 bottles of the floor in your basket.
Yeah, like just because I want to be in B&M
for the fifth time on Saturday.
So I just...
It's difficult.
Because I definitely am that person to an extent
but that's me making that decision,
not my family.
So I guess they're not creating the rift
that's me that would be
because I'd just be like, yeah, wherever.
I'm not that person.
I got plans
I got plans
Fuck off
No I'm joking
I'm not like that at all
But I do think
That would be really frustrating
I think you just need to voice it as much as you can
To try and make it clear
And then as you said
Sit down and say
This is how I see my future
And I wanted to be with you
But I can't do it if
I'm not your priority
And our future family wouldn't be
And also ask yourself
Do you think
It's even a big deal with what's happening
Or do you have this so much
built up resentment now that any sort of favour
that they're asking for is just pissing you off
because... That's very common.
Yeah, because
obviously he's going to help his family
and his mum, you would be helping your family and your
mum too, but are you just so
fucked off now that you just think
everything's an annoyance?
And then maybe ask yourself that, like maybe do you just
need to chill out a little bit? Or
shall I sit down with him again and say like, this is
serious, it's really bothering us, it's really affecting
our relationship.
And just see where it goes from there.
what he has to say.
And what plans are we talking?
Was it my example which
should be fine? Because it's no really a plan?
Yeah. Or is it?
You booked a holiday and then he cancels it.
Because your mum needs her auntie fucking ASDA
for messages.
So, my two and a half-year-old daughter's dad
who isn't the best dad, shall we say.
He hasn't seen her since last August,
doesn't have any interest in her.
So he doesn't see her or pay for her.
That's another story.
Anyway, I was sent his sister.
Tinder profile this week
and the main profile photo is a photo
of him and my daughter
in my house too
who does that I went and
reported his account for having a photo of a minor
and violating Tinder terms
now he's banned ha ha oops
no Tinder dates for you pal
I'm not being funny but that's what he gets
we are not in any contact at all anymore
and I didn't want the photo of her on there
bare fox by the way
what the hell was he thinking
putting her pick on there as if he's a dad of
the year. Jess being a mum I think we would agree with absolutely it's absolutely shocking
what a knob how would you deal with this. P.S. I've missed you's I can't wait to have you back in
my life again. Oh I think she's love. Do you put that at the end? I think she's done the night
thing absolutely. Absolutely. I would be raging. I even think if he does have a good if circumstances
were different and he did have a really good relationship with you and or the daughter I still
wouldn't want the pictures of my kid on your Tinder profile. There's no need for that.
you're not introducing anyone to my kids for at least six months anyways.
Exactly.
You could actually put in your bio, I'm a father.
Exactly.
I think it's great when people say at the offset that they've got a child.
Whatever works for you, right?
But do not have my child punting on your fucking Tinder as well of all apps.
I know.
When you're probably going to be messaging folk for a shag.
That's weird, isn't it?
It's actually weird.
Especially because he didn't have any contact with the child either.
Doesn't pay for him.
Yeah, that is.
Like, it is trying to make out that he's sad of the year.
Because there will be women that be like,
oh, that's so good that he's put his child on there.
He's probably put a normal, like, same sort of guy,
because he's got a chance.
What a red flag.
But I haven't just like that.
So Tinder banding them for having the,
I wonder why that is then?
So you can't have photos of your child on Tinder at all.
I mean, I don't know, but you maybe can't then.
But then also, I just feel like,
even on social media,
people watch what they post about their kids.
So why are you using it on a dating app?
I'm surprised that was even allowed in the first place by then.
Yeah, very true.
Not very tight rules from regulations, Tinder.
So what we think, Geli, is we think you did the right thing.
Absolutely. I'd probably send them abuse as well.
Yeah, she probably did.
I'd be sending a message just saying,
you don't have any, well, they don't speak though.
But I would probably say you don't have any contact with your kids.
You don't even pay a single thing towards her.
You have zero respect.
for a zero love for her why the fuck
who you use in a picture of her to get pussy.
There's nothing more mortifying than getting the notification
saying that Tinder's blocked you for having a minor on your account.
Bye!
No shag for you, pal.
Shag on, shag on, shaggur.
Right, let's go over to side dish, honeybody.
Do some more.
Yeah, I've got a few more.
And we can discuss a few of the bits and bobs.
I've actually got a nice recommendation for you actually.
All righty.
All right.
Well, thanks so much for listening, watching, supporting as always.
We hope you enjoyed that little episode that really took a turn, as it always does.
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And also I've got a wee discount code for you all guys, actually.
So if you are based in Glasgow or further afield, you.
You can come and see us.
You know we spoke about LaGree classes.
There's one in Edinburgh, but their LaGree is now in Glasgow.
It is in Hillington.
And it is bloody hard guys.
It means that we're going on Saturday again.
I'm scared.
You should be, because it's solid.
I can't get my messages up.
Would you get it for me?
Anyway, I was in there on last Saturday doing the class.
And as I left, she said,
can I please give you a discount code for all of the podpiggies?
And I was like, apt to freaking lootly, you can.
Right, I'll tell the details.
The code is Jess and Zoe 10.
It's in caps.
I don't know if that's important.
Is it and?
Like the word and.
And as the word 10 as the number.
Jess and Zoe 10.
Yeah.
We'll give 10% off 5, 10 or 20 class packs.
And it's valid until the end of June 2026.
Or the same code can be used for 10% off memberships for the first three months.
Brilliant.
They're also offering three classes for 45 pounds for new members.
So,
go and it can be claimed through their website which is ora lagri studio dot co.com
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if you want a sex pack like us there you go it's easy by the way it just comes like that overnight
just like that right have a lovely week see next week see you next week see you next week
