A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 07: The Florrum Arc (Clone Wars 11 & 12)

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

"Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here..." -Obi-Wan Kenobi What are some things you'd love to see in a Clone Wars arc? Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Count Dooku forced to work together? Check. The introduction of a new, series regular space pirate? Yup. A lot of people getting absolutely roasted? Absolutely. This week's episode pairing has all the ingredients to be a delicious dish. And yet... Next time: Episodes 13-14 Show Notes Fallen Clones: Mack Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Austin Walker Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Clone Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zakni, joined by Ali Akampura, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. So after the tour to force that the Newt Gunray arc turned into, we are returning to Earth with a pair of episodes centering on a gang of pirates who luck in capturing Count Duku, and then try and parlay that prize into a fortune from the old republic, but they don't know it's the old republic yet. That's a secret. But the core idea of these episodes suffers from a surprisingly long setup sequence and then poor development throughout a pair of episodes that can't

quite commit to being a prison break, a Jar Jar Binks comic caper, or a tragicomic farce about dishonor among thieves. By the end, a lot of things have happened, but absolutely nothing has happened at all, and both the Jedi and the separatists have left the pirates with absolutely nothing. But we wouldn't know what that feels like because so many of you absolutely delivered when we started our Patreon

last week. So, thanks to everyone who has supported us so far and if you haven't checked it out yet, you can learn more at patreon.com slash civilized. And if you sign up now, you can get in questions for this month's Q&A and listen to our

epic length February Q&A in which we make our case for overthinking a children's cartoon to this degree. Still. We had a note, by the way, from someone who sent that in. It was a very kind note. The person who then basically said, like, it was really, like, insightful to hear that. Basically said that they work in the video game industry and that, like, they have not seen that degree of, like, personal creative input on projects that they've been on, which

I think is a damning indictment of the video game industry. But thank you for your question. Thank you for your question, genuinely. I will also say, like, so I definitely did do a interpretive reading of that email,

but sometimes, like, here's the thing. Sometimes it is good to get a like slightly dickish email that perfectly encapsulates I thought that you know a million people have had, and it's really useful to be like, hey, actually, let's respond to that. Let's talk about it. Yeah.

You know, there's no quite, there are no, well, actually, I'm not going to make that promise. They will never make the air. Nevertheless, shoot your shot. Thank you, Allie, for being our filter, you know. Allie is a great job of ensuring that bad ones don't make it. But, yeah, so just be like the Wequan pirates and shoot your shot. Try your best. Yeah, so.

That Q&A will be, just so we're clear so people can start planning. We're going to record that. Q&A probably on the 17th which means and it'll cover the content from I guess if people have questions about like the new gun ray arc put them there but then also this set of episodes and then also the next two episodes so you can send those in if they come in before the 17th then we'll see them and that is a more civilized age at gmail.com so just make sure they go to the right place yeah be very careful uh you go to the right place because it turns out there's a similar sort of podcast.

They're a very different vibe. Very concerned about cancel culture in Star Wars, which we are not really worried about. No, not so much. I would like to cancel the Jedi if possible, but people keep telling me I'm not allowed. They're problematic as fuck. So, like, we were talking about overthinking things,

and sometimes there's so much we can dig into. And then sometimes you're faced with an episode like Duku captured, uh, which feels a lot like a pitch meeting that somehow escaped into actual production. Um, so this episode opens in Medea some extremely fucking strange wreaths. Uh, so the Jedi have laid a trap for Duku by having Anakin pretend to fall into Duku's clutches. But the entire thing is to set up an ambush where Obi-Wan sneaks aboard the Dark Jedi's flagship, rescues Anakin, and then the two of them

attack Duku, just as Asoka arrives with the Republic Task Force, but then Duku escapes via a special slip-and-slide he had installed in his flagship. I have just covered the first four minutes of this episode. There's like 16 more. Just attack it. Why not just attack him?

Why not just attack him? Just get his ass. Since when do the Jedi have like Buck Rogers fucking astronaut jetpack Yeah, who was just flying? When did he change? When did he change?

I don't know. When did he change out of that? I was wondering that. So, Duku escapes, there's a chase, there's a crash on a desolate planet, there's a cave monster fight. Yeah. Duku escapes again. Duku meets some pirates who have a sweet flying saucer. RIP fries electronics.

Yeah. but he meets some pirates and he's like you seem like reputable fellows well yes i do have tons of money and i'm worth loads of cash and so they're like why don't you hop aboard our ship you definitely won't be you definitely won't turn into a hostage so duke's like sounds legit and goes off with the pirates anakin and uh aniken and obey one escaped the cave eventually you're going okay wait There's two important things here Which is that Dugo asks if the pirate

Like town is civilized And I was like Bro, you're evil too You're also evil Why do you care? Yeah, but he's a count Like he's genuine That's not a title

That's not like a He literally is the count Of a planet Like he is nobility In a way that makes him shitty In two ways Yeah, I guess so But he should know the language

He should know He should have the street smart Yeah he should He was not cutting deals with evil people this whole time. Like, he doesn't know how to be, like, with... I feel like this is maybe why an Outer Rim insurgency is not having the, like, most fruitful, like, success out there. Like, Duke is, like, I'm here to help you overthrow the boot of the Republic,

and you can continue living your pointless lives in these garbage planets. Like, the whole, this whole multi-episode arc feels like no one is winning. No one is, no one, none of the principal characters is ever playing the right card, ever. Not the protagonists, not the antagonists, not the short-sighted alliance. Like, no one is making the right call. I guess, except for Jar Jar Jar Bix. Except for Georgia, yes. Just to, so, actually, you're right.

If I try to summarize all this, I'll just describe the entire episode because that's how this is laid out. It's all plot. Point is, Duku gets this planet. They're like, you're a hostage now. And then they try to ransom him to the Republic. And this is their brass ring. They're going for it. So how did we enjoy Duku getting captured?

I loved watching Duku get disrespected. Everyone gets roasted in this episode. There's roasting. I guess like Obi-Wan shows up and immediately roasts Anakin and is like you lost your fucking lightsaber again like you would be stuck here

without me I'm always saving you Anakin gets roasted by Duku Duku is like where would you be without your master Obe you know Anakin and like actually we know the answer where that ends up going E. Be at Padme's place Roasting is so important

to Anakin and Obi-Wan that they're like having mean banter while the like poisonous gas is happening and like we've all been there with your bro and you just got to get the insult out yeah i mean i feel like we get a little bit just a fucking crumb of insight into like anakin's career progression uh when they're on duku's ship where i guess i think it's Obi-Wan's plan, but the grand plan is that, you know, Anakin gets intentionally captured

lightsaberless to, you know, obviously, because you don't want to, you know, make anyone suspicious of you. So really a suave move to just show up at the doors of Count Duku without your lightsaber and let yourself

be captured. But so Obi-Wan breaks him out and Anakin's like, why am I always the one getting captured. Like, why? And I didn't realize that this was like an ongoing strat that they had been having, but I guess this is something they've employed multiple times.

So he says, how come I'm the one getting caught all the time? It doesn't look good. How am I to become a Jedi master if I'm always getting captured? And, you know, like, I feel for him. Like, if he's always getting... Is that how... Are the Jedi keeping score like that in terms of like... I don't know, but he's one of the...

of the most high-profile Jedi, right? He's got to be, like, in the realm of Jedi, he's got to be one of the most high-profile Jedi. So if everyone's not in on the fact that, like, these are the plans, I would be kind of pissed as well. Counter-argument, though, it's like if you have a basketball player who's always getting double-teamed or a wide receiver who pulls coverage off of another wide receiver, maybe you don't get the touchdown, they don't get the glory, but they're a key player. and people who know, no, that they're there to make it happen. You know what I mean? Like, you don't, LeBron doesn't have to go out there every night and put 45 on the board.

Sometimes it's about opening up the rest of the, not with LeBron specifically. LeBron specifically almost always does have to put 45 with the board for his team to win these days. But you know what I'm saying. But he's still getting the MVP at the end of the season. He is. He is. And I don't know if Anakin's getting that. So I sense, you know, some frustration coming from Annexie. that, you know, he's not being recognized for the openings he's creating for other Jedi to come in and take the shot.

Anakin is about to walk into the GM's office and demand the trade. Yeah, which, yeah, I guess I'll see how that goes. Okay, but counter argument, there is a bit here where Anakin is like, I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down this slip and slide also. And everyone's like, what the fuck are you doing? And he's proven right immediately. And he goes down the slip and slide and like 50-50 chance, I'm going to go down the wrong slip and slide. There's a split in it.

You know, these are out of space if he picks wrong. They should have both gone down the slip and slide. One go one way. One go the other. Duku's gone in that situation. Except Obi-Wan had to save his ass, right? Like a minute later. Yeah, Obi-Wan had to be there with the ship.

Yeah. Also, it really looked like Obi-Wan was taking his sweet time to meet up with Duku. Like, he walked out. to the fucking hangar. He's trying to keep himself all in place. Well, he's putting a stealth level. You've got to slow the action down a little bit. That's true.

I just want to shout out more bad references really quick, more bad original trilogy stuff here. We get at Obi-Wan saying, you're not the prisoner I'm looking for to some other captured people. And then that's a you're not the droids. They are pirates, yeah. That's the you're not the droids I'm looking for reference.

And then there's also, Anakin, when I tell you to run, run, where the first thing that ghostly Obi-Wan communicates to Luke is run, Luke, run. So this is like a very stealthy, like, when I tell you to run, huh? I'm a person who tells people to run sometimes. I get it. You know? Sloping slide itself looked a lot like the Bespin Slip and Slide that Luke goes down.

Totally. Sorry for giving shoutouts. I want to shout out the scratches on Obi-1's armor, because they looked cool as stealth. Those look good. Yeah. They're starting to refine their textures a bit. I really wanted, like, a couple more minutes of Obi-Wan opening jail doors and saying, oh, never mind.

Not my guy. So it just turns into a 60s Batman thing where, like, just like different cameos keep popping out of the cells. Yeah. Just like, there's an Easter. Mickey Rudy, what are you doing here? We do get another great. cameo of a gun dark, which is like a classic Star Wars thing of creature, big monster thing.

To bring down a good size gun dark. Yeah. I think one of the things that does bug me, like, look, starting an episode in the middle of the action, that's fine, that's normal, they're yada yadaing a lot of stuff. and just kind of take on faith, where it's like, wait. So you just orchestrated the most impressive, like, intelligence coup that we've seen in this entire series. And we're just going to skip past that to get to this shitty episode. Can I counter this with saying, I wish they'd yada yodded more. The thing I realized starting the second episode in this set

is we could have opened at the beginning of the second episode and been fine. Hey, some shit happened that put these three together in a jail cell. done. That's the episode. That's like the pitch for this arc was, I want to put Duku, Anakin, and Obi-Wan together and force them to talk to each other. Everything, all the prologue before that, it like doesn't earn itself. The specifics like don't... Natalie and I were chatting when we signed on that like not only does this feel like a fick to just like mash these characters together and have them go on an adventure, but it feels like it was written by committee. Like people are hands.

handing off sections to each other and be like, okay, like, here's, here's where I'm leaving the action, you go with it. Because it all just feels like disjointed events. This is like the icebreaker exercise where they just like passed around a piece of paper and each wrote one sentence and then the next person got to write a sentence. And then they're in a cave and there's a gun dark in there. And then Asoka shows up and she roast them. And then, yeah.

But I'm not, I'm not even mad that they made the fick. I'm just mad that this is where they put it. And, like, I'm also, like, I don't know, they just do the Pirates so dirt. Like, in the beginning of this episode, when Duku initially gets, not the beginning, I guess middle of this episode, when Duku gets captured,

and, you know, he's like, what's his name? Whose name we don't find out until the next episode? Honda O'Nehacka is, like, the leader of this Wee Kuan pirate crew and Duku and him have their confrontation right and Duk is like I can pay you, no worries

and he's like the leader of the clanker army and a Sith Lord no less like I just love that disrespect but the fact that the pirates know not to like call up the separatists

and have because there's a version of this episode where Honda calls up the separatists and the whole crew just gets annihilated and Duku gets away or whatever. So at this point I was like oh this is I mean aside from all of

like the weird racialization that's happening here I was like good on these pirates for like having this sort of sense like the smarts to sell Duku to the highest bidder and go to the public on this and then

immediately when we land on Florem, it's like zero competency. It's absolutely bozo town. And it sucks. It fucking sucks. It's just, I really did not want it to go that way. Yeah, Honda goes from being like a cool warlord.

And then you get to the pirate base on Florem and it turns into Curse a Monkey Island Pirates, where it's like, oh no, like this is, but again, it's like, You can kind of look, like the costuming changes? Like, Hondo, it kind of does look like, you know, a cool pirate. And then his crew is all, like, very much, you know, Pirates the Caribbean type, like, just weird. Yeah, they're just weird, like, you know, Spanish main type pirates.

But it gets real, it gets real corny. Also, but then how if they're that incompetent? do we have a thing unfold where Duku gets cat somehow they just disarm that guy yeah they there there is um in like the featurette for this episode feloni is like deeply anticipating people being like how the fuck did these pirates capture Duku and he's like listen there's 30 pirates like maybe he kills 15 of them but one of them's going to get a hit in he knows that and believes he can get out a different way and it's like all right like you're i i know you're right but i would almost rather seen that happen because otherwise you just in this situation where like I don't I don't in some

ways the competency of the pirates and their ability to hold Duku is undercut by us not seeing them enforce that with him trying to get away from them do you know what I mean he just he just gives up and like okay also that's a great opportunity to showcase some Duku power like show me some Duku power show me some lightning shit why no he already did uh with The cave. Like, it's weird. He brings out an entire cave on top of the Jedi. Maybe he's tired.

The gun dark. If there's a rock formation that the Duke who can shatter with his mind, he's just going to do it. He's just going to do it. I also love his escape attempt from the Jedi where he gets into, he is chauffered into a starfighter chase. And for some reason, Obi-Wan is piloting when Anakin is a way better. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah, he sucks up and he misses a shot. and then they crash

and again like he's not a good pilot Anakin's the good pilot with the ball in Anakin's hand yeah this is like it's the final it's the final like three seconds yeah who you're gonna put the ball

whose hands are gonna put the ball on him but I just it's not just that Duke who gives up it's that they lifted his saber yeah and it's like okay I just I just know how they didn't they didn't lift his saber one of their weird monkeys

lifted the saber yeah Did you miss this from? Yeah. Uh-huh. That's how they got the saber. Yeah. Is one of the monkeys took it from him. Or a monkey.

There was supposed to be two monkeys. They cut it down to one monkey. The one monkey takes the saber. Sorry, I know too much about this episode. I was reading about it. I guess, you know, that's how you bring down the Sith. You get underestimated. I don't know how he does.

You're just a little guy and you take their lightsaber. Maybe Duku is just delighted. Look at his little monkey. Yeah. Look at this little guy. Duke is here for the ride. He knows he's going to get out of this like in ten seconds. I liked how much that the monkey was drinking too.

Just chilling. Definitely, just chilling. Yeah, those are Kowakian monkey lizards, apparently. Ah. And they were originally called pick and pilf, but they were just consolidated into pilf. Pilf, muck, is the name of this guy. No thanks.

We haven't brought it up yet that, like, Honda works for Disneyland now. Did you all know that? He's like... Is he, like, at the place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you go on the Millennium Falcon ride, he, like, walks out and is like, I hired you to be on the Millennium Falcon and here's some stuff. And he, like, texts you through the app.

Like, there's, like, a Disneyland, like, LARP situation. And, like, that's that guy. When I saw this episode, I was like, what the fuck are you doing here? he's like a character who will show up a bunch both in clone wars and in rebels and in i want to say also in something else but i don't i don't maybe i'm wrong about that i guess at the he's a winner as as a new character but i'm not sure is he that big winner that's a lot of appearances i don't get i don't get him i don't get what i'm supposed to again i read a bunch of people like talking about him and and their conception of him and like everyone loves a space pirate everyone loves a scoundrel with a with a sense of honor at the end of the day and blah blah blah blah and like i don't know he gets done over by his own man like it ain't nothing you know what i mean and like doesn't doesn't catch him i was so sure and we're looking ahead now but there's a sequence in the next episode where where one of the one of honda's lieutenants like tries to get one over on him and and effectively does like it doesn't it doesn't go well because that lieutenant ran into jar jar binks but if jar jar binks if like the fucking gravity of jar

Jard Binks hadn't been in the way, he would have gotten one over on Hondo. And then, like, he comes back to report back to Hondo and Hondo doesn't smell through his bullshit. So, like, again, I left these episodes feeling like no one was a winner. And then it's also like, what is the Hondo accent? What is everyone else that Hondo was with has, has pirate accent, has yarr. Like, that's, we need pirates. Like, that's what they're doing.

And Hondo has something that I struggled to place until I found a quote about it. But I just want to, like, start with, I'm not wrong by being like, what is going on with his voice, right? It's, well, it's strange because then it's hard to place because then you go back to the pirate base. And like the context of the pirate base and the music that's playing there also feels like, it's in Hindi. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. It's genuinely in Hindi. It is, it is original music that the creator of the soundtrack and the score made, I believe, or, or,

it's on the soundtrack as like or it's not on the soundtrack but it's it's labeled Indian pop source um is like the title of it and a lot of the stuff on the official like you know source track stuff that the people who were producing the show were using would have very you know utilitarian names like that but it's just called Indian pop source and it's like a love song it's like you know the lyrics translated or something like my heart is for you the love of my life over and over again basically so it's like yeah okay immediately there is something going on where it's like this is a group of people who are being racially othered right even though most of them just sound like they have generic pirate voices um jim cummings who's who's hondo's v o and also i should say there are some allegations out there about about jim cummings i think he won the court case uh and and continues to be the sole parent of his children but i will i'm just going to say that there are straight up you know abuse uh and and sexual misconstitutional Conduct allegations in a serious way against this dude.

He is a very prolific voice actor. He's a dude who, like, you've heard him before in other shit, I promise you. Someone who's been in cartoons and film for 30 years or something. He says, there are indistinct accents that are familiar to an extent but still sound foreign. Like when Roman centurions have British accents and Gladiator movies, it lets the audience know that this is an other. And yet we can still identify. It's relatable. Coming with Honda's voice, I look to one guy who'd always fascinated me.

Yule Brinner. As a kid, I'd think, where the heck is this guy from? But you could buy him as the King of Siam, or as a cowboy in the Magnificent Seven, or as a robot in Westworld. I don't do a great impression of Yul Brinner. But if you do a bad impression to someone, it becomes a new voice, a new character. So I just poured a lot of sand on my bad Yule Brinner for texture, and that's Hondo. But I don't like to think about it too much. I always say that instincts are the best stinks.

it's rare you hear someone use the word other with a capital oh in a way that's like deployed to be like you know a tool of the trade nailed it well it's also but I guess it is a little bit it's also a bad Yule Brenner if it's a Yolbrunner like it's just a terrible it's all the sand yeah it's covered it

oh god oh god is that what means by pouring sand on the King of Siam type thing where it's like you take the King of Siam in and then movie. I said the Emperor's New Groove. That ain't fucking. The one about the tutor. The one about the teacher going to slay. Right, right, right. All the Emperor's children? I don't remember. Are you talking about the King and I? Yes. Yes, you are talking about the King and I. That is correct. Yeah. I'm so close All the emperor's children The emperor's new groove

The emperor's new groove I don't know I don't know what But yes right I don't know What a piece That is a piece of work And it's like

He also doesn't seem to know What othering really means though I will say that Because he's like It's like English centurians And it's like That's not to make it other That's to make it sane

That's to like, that's to make it white. Yeah. Oh, they're high status, like, they're high status people from your cultural group. Yeah. Oh, my God. Anyway, it's the stuff with Hondo, and I know Hondo, again, Hondo's going to return as a character many times. I think, like, to a degree, if you count both Clone Wars and Rebels, it's like well over 15 episodes, I want to say, right? It's like 10 to 15 episodes.

Maybe some of these are mentions only. But, like, he's a recurring, and he exists at this theme park. So we're not going to be done with Hondo in our lives. No. But I just, it doesn't, it doesn't sit great, you know. Yeah. It's, there's a lot of missed opportunities here. Yeah.

You know who didn't miss an opportunity is Senator Palpatine to send off. Are you proud of you, wrong? True. proud of that that was a good sag great sag uh thank you um emperor palpatine gets a call from hondo

and hondo's like listen I've got your man's if you want them send over that one mill easy also one mill feels like chump fucking drugs oh yeah in drugs by the way hondo knows which way the galaxy's

going oh that's so funny to me and then palpitin is like yeah I get a million dollars at sand we've got that or not it's it's a pack Edmay. It's like, no, we got that. We should just hand it over. Yeah.

I was like, I guess I could go into my reserve. He's like, I got that on deck. Palpatine is trying to spike it. He's like, oh, I don't buy this. This all sounds like bullshit. Boy, we shouldn't even deal with this guy. Turn off. Hey, Yoda, just hit and call. We don't need

to, we don't need to learn any more about this. Just turn it off. And it's Padmae. He was like, no, hold on. Let's hear this guy out. Oh, shit. Let's see where I go. Let's send him the drug. yeah so it is imagine imagine palpatine though in this moment you're like yes good good fight among yourselves give into your hate bring bring hey uh i got the leader of the separatist army um

like in my basement i got him and uh if you want him we can just end this thing right now i just need like need some drugs i love drugs just send them over and uh you just pick him up and just end this war right now and you're just sitting there being like oh boy i would yeah boy i'm so glad you caught the leader of the separatist army that's my life's dream you know as chancellor of the republic you can only imagine how thrilled i am uh i should really send the two most competent senators i can think of to secure this mission um so i'm I'm going to send Senator Karris and, of course, Senator Vinks to secure this transaction for me. I feel like that was Palpatine's trick.

That was like a little fee. I'm sending Jarja on this shit. And I just, I don't understand how nobody intercedes there. I don't understand how nobody raises a hand. Jarja's not even in the room right now. You could say something. Nobody raises a hand and says, Wait,

Was he in the room? Was he in the room? No, I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying that's what someone should have said. You know, last mission was on, what's it called? The planet where Padma told them they didn't meet shit. Rodea, yeah. Uncle Ono.

Jarger didn't do, I mean, he was okay. He didn't, he was in a standout star. He pulled through in some ways. He pulled through. And he pulls through again. Listen. He does. Maybe he was exactly the right person to send.

You know? Sometimes you know someone has plot armor. You know what I mean? And you're just going to have to lean in on that. Oh, God damn it. I hate when it's Jar Jar. So I just did a quick lookup real quick. Just on my, well, we still have a few more things to get through on this one episode. But I wanted to know, because they called Jar Jar Jar a representative a lot.

He's not a senator, right? He's a representative. And I was like, well, what is the, what's that mean? because for us as Americans, we understand what a representative is versus what a senator is. But what's that like in the Galactic Republic? A junior representative,

this is from Wikipedia, a junior representative or more commonly called Simply Representative was a member of the Galactic Senate of the Republic. While senators served the interest of an entire world or sector, representatives were chosen to give voice

to a minority population or political group from that specific world. Though only senators were allowed to vote or introduce legislation in the Senate, a representative from the senator's world or sector could perform these duties in the senator's stead, should they take a leave of absence or be otherwise unavailable.

Jarger being served as representative for the Gungan people under the tutelage of Senator Padma, Amadala, of Nabu. That sucks. The Gungans liberated the fucking planet. Yeah, they don't get a politician. They don't get a senator, though. Come on. The Gungans were like, yeah, our representative is going to be the guy that we exiled.

There was... They worked him by the end. They were like, you're such a good general. And also, we just laugh our... ass is off every time. Okay, he's allowed to come to game night, but like there should be someone else who's more qualified. I think this is their way of just getting him off the planet.

They were like, all right, yeah, you could go do all that. We're good here in our underwater bubbles. Here's your big representational tie. Wear it with pride. And here's your printed out certificate that it's hot from the printer in my office that, you know, definitely doesn't look like it's made. for children. Here you go. Yeah. So,

in order to verify proof of delivery of separatist leader, Obi-Wan and Anakin have to go to Florum. Florem. Damned or killed him. But they can't bring their weapons, but they just got to make sure they've actually

got Duku. So they go, they get patted down and they're taken to meet Camp Duku, and there's a little bit of verbal sparring, some shit talk. But Duku, doing his thing of, like, sowing distrust, he's like, you know, this deal's not going to go through. Like, there's just no way. They're actually going to deal me to the Republic.

And Obi-Wan's like, I eat shit, Count Duku. I know what your game is. And Duku provides this warning again. It's sort of a glimpse of a cooler episode that is just not. delivered on. He says, they are devious and deceitful and most importantly stupid. You underestimate them at your own peril, Kenobi. And I think there's an interesting, and like, I think there's an interesting version of this episode that maybe it's a bit closer to what Austin was suggesting where it just opens with like this deal going down and it turns into just a high stakes crime

drama in some ways of like how do you how do you deal the most like powerful warlord in the galaxy right now how do you can you safely do it and i think duke was kind of pointing toward imagine that episode where like he's a guy too valuable to sell um but that's not where we're going to go and so it just turns into this intimation of like watch out for these pirates to betray you but ultimately that's not what happens like hondo intends to deal in good faith um uh well yeah No, well, there's the drugging. Yeah. He does the drugging.

Yeah, but once he gets the money, he's going to release them. He just wants the spice. He does just want the spice. This confrontation between Dugu and Anakin, Obi-Wan was the most, like, Anakin and Obi-Wan are circling Duku. Like, you're fucked. You're going to stand trial. You're going to stand trial in front of all of the.

Senate and you're going to get life in prison. Like two fucking corny ass neoliberals. Like, the jury will have you. Like, you know, it's just, it, I was literally, like, you two sound

so not scary right now. We'll see what the martial of the Supreme Court has to say about this. The law will quit. Fuck. it's just it's like you're you have this moment to like really go in on some intimidation like i don't know say your piece like really rosa's full but they're just like or to have like not them as and they have the opportunity but the creators of the show have the opportunity to make these

characters talk about anything interesting about their philosophies about the way they see the situation of the galaxy about why Duku left to begin with. At no point Anakin wants to raise like Duku, I read the records, you were a great Jedi, what made you leave? You know what I mean? And that's

a huge opportunity to do some incredible characterization that just doesn't come up. Just no. We're not going to talk about the stuff that makes these three characters in relation compelling. So I do appreciate the the version of Duku they're dialing in now

with the voice acting is definitely Anton Ego, right, from Ratatoui? Like they're kind of moving away from Christopher Lee impressions, and now it's just Anton Ego. Both in terms of the way he's presented, just all weird, narrow angles. But then also just the way he like chews over his words and savers them,

no matter what he's saying. Yeah, I could, yeah, I totally see that. it's it's strange you know there it does feel like there are some real character shifts in this and the next episode like like one person is behind someone and then suddenly someone else is there and it really throws you it it it really you know trips you up when that happens in this show in one episode you know You know, like, the literal blocking of just the scenes? No, she's talking about voice acting, Rob.

She's talking about how we lose them. Okay, yeah, we're getting a bad, right? Yeah. Yeah, we'll get there. I will say this is the same voice actor for Duku throughout. It's just that, like, what I genuinely think is, like, what we're hitting in this episode is this is an episodic TV show where the staff changes between from episode to episode, where the writing is not always going to be, you know, as consistent as we want,

especially this early on, where we're not going to end up getting, you know, we're not going to necessarily get the quality from every episode that is the same or, like, feel like the characterization from episode to episode is even the same. And that can be some of the strangest stuff for sure, right? Like, the person who wrote these two episodes, this is the only episodes they ever wrote for this show. They never wrote another thing for Clone Wars.

They would go on to write stuff for Supernatural, and would go on to be a producer on things like narcos and black sales, which I know some people really like black sales. Oh, hey, pirates. But, like, pirates. Yeah, more pirates. Damn. But, you know.

Like, happy. Glad you got to make the show you actually wanted to make. Okay, so the Jedi leave this meeting having sort of whistled past the graveyard. Obi-Wan is actually a little bit antsy about like, how's this all going to go. And then Honda's like, you must come feast with us. And the general, I'm like, this is a terrible idea, right? And he's like, I would be offended. And so they go to party with the pirates, which frankly, I would. I would just be like, hell yeah, pirates. I hear you guys are awesome. You know, except for like the... I would have these are the pirates that fucked up

Rodea. Yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a good point. Maybe this is how you end up building the relationship necessary to get them to stop. Going after your friends And focus on other people's friends Let me sell you on this What if extremely thin margin logistics shipping How about that?

Would that intrigue you? How about you guys I'll turn into warehouse workers So Here's what Here's though Where this pair of episodes Really just completely losing me

And I'm just I'm never gonna I'm gonna die angry about this Uh huh And Hondo's like, we're going to capture these Jedi to make sure that we've got an increased bargaining position, et cetera. So we're going to drug them. We're going to slip a little Mickey into their grog. And so he's like, you must toast with me. And so you see the scene of like them drugging the two beers and they're brought out of the Jedi.

And Obi-Wan and Anakin sort of look at each other. And every story got their mugs raised. And very pointedly, the show calls extreme attention to this. Yeah, it's the horse. to swap out their drinks with the guys to their left and right, respectively. And then they toast, and then they drink their untainted beers. Wait, what? Yeah, it's so pointed.

It's so pointed. Did I miss that? And then the two guys collapse. This is why you didn't. I'm sorry. I guess they must have ordered just more rounds. That must be, but. I guess.

I guess. it's so they do the toast and they're like i think we better stay on our toes around these pirates and as the camera pulls back it's actually a nice shot the camera pulls back through the party and as the guys to the left and right come back into the frame we see them both just like face plant into the table and attiken and o and oby one sort of look at each other like oh yeah we're we're in some danger here next episode they're waking up on the floor of a pirate prison being like, oh, man, what happened? And Obi-Wan's like, we were drugged, Anakin.

And I'm like, how? Yeah. Here's my only thing. My only thing is they, and they should have just done this. Hondo should have just drugged all the drinks. Yeah. The whole place should have passed out. That would have been fun.

I guess Anakin was already a little sleepy, like he had said. I guess. But he looked at you. They used the force to swap the drink. around. Yeah. And then those guys fell. Like, beside them.

They knew the score. Yeah, I see it now. Yeah, this is like 2110. It's like, they do this. And then it opens up there anyway. And that's where I was like, just start at this. Just start at this. The last episode didn't matter.

The end of it, you ignored. You ignored the end of your own episode on this. What the fuck? I don't. I'm so confused. I don't understand. The Wiki, like, literally says at the end of the one episode, like, that they switched them, that they switched them.

And then the next episode does have in the trivia a note that says, at the beginning of the episode, Obi-Wy Wyn and the Anna can wake up after being drugged with their drinks. However, at the end of the previous episode, they have switched out the spice drinks. So that's a continuity note. And like, it's a big one. I'm not a cinema since person.

I don't think any of us are that because it's deeply annoying. But this shows like a lack of attention to detail and storytelling that is hard not to reckon with. It's significantly like a cliffhanger, right? Like, it's like, how are they going to get out of this? Right. They just don't. I, I, I'm, I don't understand. And Anakin and Obi-Wan talk about it. And, and Anakin's like, what happened? And Obi-1's, I guess that pirate brew is stronger than we thought. And Anakin's like, I only took a sip. And Obi-Wans were, I love this. I love this. Obi-Oont's like, we were fucking drugged, obviously.

Like, shut the fuck up, you noob. But that makes, that, that is just not in, that is, like, you are making a contradiction there. Like, this is just not possible in this universe, unless, where was the fucking narrator this time saying, although Anakin and Obi-Want swapped out their drinks, they ordered more rounds, and were drugged again, and they didn't know this this time. Jedi Party animals, Anakin Skywalker and Obi-One-Conobi. Stay in the bar after a tainted brew has served to them because they're having too good a time.

Which maybe it would be charming, right? Okay. Wait, wait. I'm slowly watching this. Oh, my God. For the third or fourth time. Are you the pruder filming the fucking swap? I am. Back into the, actually in this case it's to the right. So the two people to their left and right pass out.

Then there's another person passed out at the table, at the opposite side of the bar. And then there's just a person passed out on the stairs and then another one on the floor. And with the people who have passed out on the floor and on the stairs, have other people looking over them like, what the fuck happened here? So maybe he did just drug everything. Not every, but there are other people who have cups and seem to be fine. But maybe this is a Honda. Maybe they got a little too clever here and didn't, like, highlight the truth of what was happening here. Because they do drink from the cup still, which they shouldn't have done.

At the point of which you know you're being drugged, just don't drink anything. Yeah, that's the other thing. Like, where's the Jedi Code of Honor here? If you're like, I'm going to drug that guy. The guy immediately to my left, fuck him tonight. I'm just going to get out of this. Well, you have to figure he's in on it, right? So, like, honestly, fuck that guy.

They don't know shit. They don't know anything about what's going. He's just a guy. They're a hedgeman. They're a little more than just guys. but they're not being let they're not being let on to like we're gonna accumulate two more hostages tonight boys like i don't think i don't know but they'll be your guards tomorrow like i am yeah but they just wake up they get their they do their little tasks and they go to the bar and get their little every day they wake up

like their characters in like a strategy game so they're sims so they're sims i do think it would be very endearing if the truth of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship is they do just enjoy bullshitting so much that they completely forget the mortal peril they're in and just at some point just continue to party where they're like they what are the odds what are the odds they're trying drug us twice well probably pretty strong if one sip knocked out the two guys next to you they probably noticed that you didn't get knocked out from your sip so Pirates have this thing. It's serving a big goldfish bowl

like sized drink. Like, should we get one of those? We should get one of those, right? Like we should get one of those. Yeah. Yeah. There's dead, yeah, there's definitely a fishbowl out there. So, yeah.

So now they're in prison and they are sharing a cell, ironically, with Count Duku himself and they're all wearing a energy rope chain gang type situation. So that we're going to have a wild ones escape. movie, we think. You're a pirate, and you don't have three cells? Come on. At least two. At least two.

You cannot put the Jedi and Sith in the same place and assume that the Sith isn't going to be like, zap. I'm going to do like a zap from behind my back. Do you know what I mean? There are more force negation bracelets on these guys. Not at all. Obi-Wan-Aniken,

there's two of you. Yeah. You could wrap this thing. I mean, this is Anakin's idea. Anakin does agree with you, Rob. I am saying this is like, this is like in the shield where like they lock the two gang leaders into a container like overnight. And it's like, what are you going to be alive in the morning? And like this is how you do this. Like Anakin should have just been like, we can just end this war right now.

They didn't give us a cool force. He did say that. And Obi-Wan is like, nah, I don't know. We can't. Come on. The money's on the way. There's like a key moment in this episode where we get Anakin basically say you need to. to let that guy die. You need to kill him

right now. Yes, yeah, that's a big moment. And, like, that's a good, that's an important Anakin moment that throughout this he is constantly pushing towards, we should just kill Duku. And in the middle of their escape, there's a moment where Obi-Wan could drop Duku down into a fucking chasm, and he won't do it, and Anakin

asks him to do it. And I don't know, Obi-Wan, pay closer attention, I think, I mean, it always feels like there's a class element between Duku and the Jedi, and it's always, is like he's an enemy but there's a degree of respect he deserves like there's a way he should go down and his way he shouldn't and deference i said reference i meant deference yeah well obi one has the experience of like serving under ducu right like he feels like he should be put to trial and

like actually be held accountable or at least isn't going to be a guy who pulls the trigger because like Quigon served under Duke like it's real like Obi-Wan didn't really they don't seem to have much of an overlap oh sure so I don't even think you can say they go back but my master's master I still think there's probably a set of mentality there right or more largely there is the like thing of like we'll handle this in-house like listen when a Jedi goes bad we bring that in We don't just, you know, a Jedi has afforded certain, certain, you know, civilities, certain protections. Yeah, I feel like they think that this is, like, to kill Duku would be some, some exhibition of a negative trait in some way of, like, revenge or something of that sort. But, yeah, you can't just kill, like, they don't believe that, I don't think, I genuinely believe that Obi-Wan thinks there are people, I guess that's,

the question like if this was who's who's even close to equivalent if this was grievous and grievous was like changed to them and also was not grievous where he could have just like beat the shit out of them like who's the equivalent i don't know who the equivalent is but like i mean here's the other thing is this also the question of without getting into too deep of spoilers for revenge of the sith the question of can we immediately pursue justice on someone who we see is a threat to the galaxy a threat to the republic, is a breaking point with someone else, not Obi-Wan, in that case, but with Anakin, who is the one who was like, no, we got to put him on trial. And I think given both of those, maybe it is fun to think about the ways in which where is it that Jedi are willing to say that, or prefer to say that than to just get justice immediately. and it is when there is some degree of sentimentality and personal connection and, you know, personal interests still involved.

So we'll get there one day. No attachments my ass. Yeah. I just, this, this is why, this moment is why I hate or the, I just, I'm, I was here for the fick. Like, I'm happy to have like the three of them teaming up in some capacity. like that is fine to me but the fact that it is like these three white character

like white like Jedi you know adjacent Sith Lord characters who obviously embody like a high class whatever against all these dumb ass pirates

just broke me on this episode to an extreme degree I was just it that's it just felt so like let's watch you know the grownups do their thing even though they can't even commit to that because they get thwarted three fucking times on on pretty decent escapes like they they do pretty three decent escapes and then immediately they walk out the door of the room and it's like fucking whoops yeah it's it's it doesn't make any

sense to me. It's like if you're going to commit to the elitist thing, then make them feel superior to everyone around them. I don't understand why we're doing this like three stooges like bit here where they're running into all these dead ends and shit, but also like trying to embody like professionalism and like respectability to each other and shit. It just there's a thing I meant to mention the last episode that I think does. I don't need an answer is that critique. I think that critique stands. But I think it is related a bit. Before they do or don't figure out that their drinks are poisoned, Anakin turns to Obi-Wan and asks, how is it that these dumb asses caught Duku? And we haven't been able to do shit against this guy in ages. And Obi-Wan

just says, you know, well, there's a lesson to be learned here. It's to remind us to be humble and not too proud and to accept a gift when it comes uh comes our way but it's one of the it's another's moments where characters like sort of stumbling back on this idea of like why is this war so fucked up like why is why is everything turned to shit in our hands and like in their heads ducu and assault crew is this mastermind and then these pirates just grab them they just lift him off the street basically and Anakin's like well how that how that how how how how does any of this make sense? And the reason it makes sense is because Palpatine isn't pulling their strings. Like, it's, like, the only reason this guy has this aura of invincibility is that

he's being copied on all your emails. And, uh, and so it's another moment of Anakin sort of circling back in this idea of like, why are we so bad at this? Why, why does everything go wrong for us? And Obi-Wan's response is for a comforting new Jedi. It's like, you know, we just need to stay humble because obviously we are awesome and we are great um and so when things like this happen we just have to remind ourselves that hey dumbasses can do things too and we just thank those dumbasses uh when they when they want to give them their drugs and move on yeah yeah and so i think we get to an episode like this and it doesn't the episode could be read as humbling all the Jedi the dark Jedi the uh regular classic Jedi

it could be right as doing that but it doesn't make that it doesn't make any of that like direct text nobody reflects on it nobody comments on it but all these guys

like just kind of get rolled by these pirates at every turn nothing nothing really works out but also the pirates aren't really competent you start out Austin saying that everybody looks bad

at the end of these episodes but also makes it hard to say like what does any of this mean because everyone's a clown Everyone's a stooge. Yeah. Yeah. This is the most we had to feel two episodes arc.

And like, what's a touchstone? It is the unlikely alliance, prison escape, you know, flick that like, let's play in that genre space. We've done sort of horror. We've done, you know, sort of, you know, all these other spaces. But let's go with four minutes of screen time. Yeah. And it, and it, like, I just don't think it's a good pair of episodes that, like, gets anywhere. you know who else doesn't get anywhere

Jar Jar Binks No Senator Carras is the one who doesn't get anywhere Right yeah Carus gets Poor one out Yikes Yet again I don't know I don't know anything about that dude He seems important

He seems like he's seen some shit Like he they're on the ship together On their way to Flororum To deliver the weed and I don't think

spice is a weed analog by the way that is that is the sense I get when Java's pissed about a shipload of spice in the original trilogy

I don't get the sense that like it's a trunk of weed that he's like Jabba's not gonna be sweating like oh damn you have to jettison

you know a few bricks of that of that good grass I don't know weed used to be weed used to be a

class whatever schedule one yes whatever like on the same as you know harder drugs and shit and it used to be I mean you look at old infomercials for weed in like the 80s and 90s and it's like

weed is gonna kill you and it's like we're good I'm fine I'm chilling so it's the thing that I would say is like spice is like very much Lucas stealing from Dune right like it's just spice from Dune and Dune's spice is like...

Adderall cocaine. Interesting. Huh? It's Adderall cocaine. It's Adderall cocaine. Exactly. Like, it's the thing you need to travel at warp speed and do, right? The navigators need to use...

Need to use spice in order to, like, do the high-level... Is it calculations and shit that they basically need to do? Or is it just, like, getting their... Is it just getting their minds right, basically? I don't remember. It's been forever. since I've been, since I've, like, dipped into Dune. I want to see all these pirates on the limitless drug.

Let's go. Please. Just give it to me. Oh, God. But Carus says that he was like, the last time I was on one of these types of missions, I was, like, in a jail. I ended up in a jail cell, like, immediately upon landing. And I was just like, this guy has seen some shit. Like, this guy knows something.

He knows something about the way this is going down. He clearly has some experience, but he doesn't have the vision to fucking put Jar Jar in a booster seat and lock him down before all hell breaks loose. So I have a comment and then a question. Yes. First, I think Senator Carr is that line. Again, there's a version. of this that turns into an awesome proof of life homage where it's all like senator caris is like i know about doing ransom deals i've been there i've seen some shit he sort of implies it but

we don't really explore it it's a cool notion i would i would have dug it uh proof of life good movie by the way uh my question is because natalie i feel you sort of implied this do we feel jar jar got all those people killed yes You couldn't choose a different chair. I mean, there are like eight chairs just on that one side you could have sat in. Those seem like pretty competent clones in that ship. They probably would have been able to navigate a safe-ish landing or at least exited orbit with the spice, right? Like just left the planet was like, hey, we're getting ambushed.

You might want to call up Hondo and let him know that we're getting ambushed, which doesn't seem like it was a part of the plan. Like, I feel like you could have just pulled out of there and, you know, had a little discussion. Jar Jar's antics, his buffoonery, kill multiple people. Yeah. He goes into the cockpit while they're, like, engaged in battle. I was losing my shit. I was losing my shit.

But I wanted to just throw something at the TV. It's a lot. And then he starts talking. And then he starts talking. So they recast Jar Jar J.J.R. Binks. Amad Best no longer voicing our favorite Gungan. Now it is credited to someone named B.J. Hughes, which is a pseudonym of Phil Lamar, who is, of course, one of the most prominent voice actors in American animation.

You would know him from, I guess, like, everything is the thing, but, like, Futurama and Justice League and a billion video games. Like, I don't even know where to, where I would even, of course, he was in Pulp Fiction. He's Marvin in Pulp Fiction. I have this resume and can't do better than like an off-brand Mickey Mouse for Jar J-J-R-Biggs.

Like, you don't have other voices in your Rolodex there? Like, what's happening? I don't get it. I don't get it. Wait,

what is this do you say? Phil Lamar. Oh, he's Kit Fisto. He's playing Kit Fisto. He's Kitt Fisto in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. He does a bunch of better voices in this show.

He's going to be Baylor Garner when we get to Baylorana. Do we know why? like why isn't i my best doing i don't know i i don't know i didn't know i didn't explicitly look but i didn't see anything uh come up why do you have to call it in like this like yeah he just he just completely phones it in i yeah i don't know i don't know like my guess is like it feels like and this is not a guess this is it feeling like philomar got like dropped in very quickly to be like all right do do a jar jar can you do a jar jar we need a jar jar so what i can say

based on this twitter account is that um is that they seem to be on good terms amad best says i appreciate someone said i'm watching that one episode of the clone words where omid best doesn't voice jar jar it just feels wrong and amad says uh i appreciate your comment this was at a time we're doing jar jar jar was very painful to me thankfully my good brother phil lamar held down the role until i was able to return i love you phil lamar thanks for being a great friend so that makes all tied up and i'm the best wanting this character to die in a fire and never talk about yeah 100% like understandably right i think yeah it seems like this was actually if you google why did ahmed best stop doing jar jar banks it seems like this was actually a pretty tumultuous

role for him to play. And a lot of the media, or a lot of the backlash was, seems like he had to endure a lot of it. So. No, totally. Totally. In many ways, like, I'm my best.

Anticipated the direction of what it would mean to be starring in a new Star Wars. Like, before anybody else, where it's like, you and McGregor was established enough that it didn't matter what the fuck happened. that movie. So is Natalie Portman. But I do feel like everyone else has cross paths with Star Wars since then

has also encountered like a similar man, this is a fucking miserable experience on multiple levels. And unlike, let's say, you know, the folks from the new trilogy, he didn't get to like walk the red carpet in a way that mattered. Do you know what I mean?

Like his face is not on any posters. Yeah. So. Yeah. I do think But it is It is interesting to see this Jar Jar because it does make you realize

Like however you feel about that character It works based on that performance It stands or falls based on like how all this comes across And here it does feel like somebody doing a Jar Jar Jar Impression that's all they can really do it But the character is not inhabited In this

And so it It kind of sucks So is this Is this the voice actor for the rest of the show? It sounds like Best came back The thing that is weird I don't actually

So Philomar is at least In a couple more As Jar Jar Jar He's in Rob I know you've seen this Allie You may have You may have the blue Shadow Virus stuff

That we'll be getting in A few episodes I believe Like this year certainly Season 1 stuff But I actually don't know for sure if it how much how many more times jar jar actually shows up throughout the rest of the clone wars i haven't checked so oh wow i'm sure okay he comes back a bunch he comes back he comes back he's not going anywhere he's here to plague us for the rest of our fucking lives um and i'm checking

to see if if who plays him is different um my vest comes back oh yeah cool good for him so we will get we will get more on my best jarger so yeah ellie i was just to say there is one really funny jar jar jar binks moment in this episode and it's a way the jar j binks defender is logged on yeah i'm here um when he's on the hologram call and he like interrupts it and then like us to walk out of the hologram that's a great visual gag it's really good and i feel like palpatine is just giddy he's like yeah this is perfect He's like, hidey-ho, Chancellor. And Palpatine's like, Mmm, delicious.

This is going to go great. Robot chicken had the best sense of what their relationship would be, right? Where, like, Palpatine just loves this guy because he's like, oh, Jar Jar bless you. Thank you for being here to, like, credibly allow me to hand this into the worst possible, like, agent. Yeah. So all of this is stemming from the fact that,

And Hondo's entire justification for this was that his dear old mom told him, why take one hostage when you can take three. And then we see his second command, who hasn't really been important to this point, Turk is like, we're just going to rip off those emissaries and take all the spice. And Hondo's never going to find out. And so he sets up this ambush, but the entire thing hinged on killing everyone aboard that transport. I looked up Turk's last name because I'm a bad person and it's falseo

it's Turk falso why not you know what why not Turk Gluck Shido everybody

Glub Shito so the entire thing hinges on like okay the one thing that has to happen is everyone on board that military transport has to die in the crash

and so whatever happens is they shoot it down and then at a very leisurely rate they go and arrive at the crash site long enough for everyone to dig themselves out of the wreckage grab their guns and get set up to make a stand of it um we do get kind of a grim like you know they they come across caris's dead body um it's a sad grayed out little model uh just jar jar presides over caris's grave a funeral the pilots are done including guy he crawled in his lap and uh they put the staff of raw in the in the in the pyre by

the way in there not the pile of like rocks is the staff of raw apparently from so uh indiana indiana jones is a is a series uh in which uh man indiana jones um uh goes on adventures and steals things from crypts, and in the Raids of the Lost Ark, there is briefly a moment of the staff of Ra, the Egyptian god, and so that's what Karras' staff is based on. Okay. Philonia said it's not the actual staff of Ra. Oh, okay. Good.

It would be, it would be, I would want to know where they got it. Yeah, different thing. Oh, okay. Anyway, is this before or after we see that Faso, Turk Falsow, has, like, a hot Twylek spray painted on the side of his bike? And he had a sexy lady motorcycle in a garage with a poster of a sexy lady in it. Oh, I forgot about the sexy lady poster. Oh, I think so. Yes.

I like that garage. I want to put my sexy lady motorcycle in it. Yeah. I need my... Damn, you got a sexy lady motorcycle? I didn't know. Yeah, come check out my sexy lady garage. It's where I park the sexy ladies.

I would like... I can't just leave them on the curb. I would like to at least meet one of these sexy ladies, like, at some point in this fucking show. Like, I... Well, yeah? The next two-parter introduces us to our first Twilac, our first Twilight Jedi. Girl? Yeah.

Okay, what's up? Aila Sechora. I'm looking forward. I think we've seen her briefly in the Battle of Geonosis. So this will be a return for this character. If I remember right, she has a bad French accent. I don't even remember her speaking in the Battle of Geoenosa. No, I mean in the in this.

Oh, in this. Okay, yeah. I might be wrong, though. I vaguely remember a twilight. I keep saying twilight. Where are the vampire and werewolves? It's funny you say that because I was on the Count Duku Wikipedia page early, and I was going to copy and paste this because I think it's very funny. Under the subsection species, there's like physical description, species, and it, dead ass says, I'll put this in general, species, human, serenian, because he's from serenia, and then vampiric species, briefly.

So I don't know why, but in canon, at some point, for some amount of time, he was, he was a vampire. Wait, is there some blood transfusion? Yeah. Is this a syphodias thing? I'm curious. I don't know. I don't know. The species of Ravna was a sentient species of vampiric creatures that could infect others and transform them into similar creatures.

This bat-like species could turn other beings into similar creatures through scratching them. Four senses like Count Duk could resist the transformation for a time. they and the creatures they spawned were able to absorb different types of energy from their mouths including those from Blasterbolton lightsabers comics are, these comics are wild Damn

Anyway, that's from Tales from Vader's Castle 2 or 5 Oh these comics have sick covers That's when the Tales series is really at its height People should Should for real look up these these covers because they're fucking sick. The one that

the first one is just Darth Vader's sick fucking Mordor Castle. Oh, hell yeah. But then the other one is Count Duku as a Dracula for sure. I want that. I think that would be good.

Big red eyes. Like that's just some Bram Stoker's Dracula shit. I didn't read this comic. This comic looks sick. That looks tight. Those bats look fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, his bats are very fucked up. I can't believe Obi-Wan...

Anyway, we're learning all sorts of things. For sexual angst. Another quick ducu note on this episode is the Star Wars.com trivia page for this episode notes that he makes a rare reference to a deity by referring to Florem as God-Forsaken. I love...

I love a franchise that has to specifically note every time the word God is used. It jumped out of me. I was like, they don't usually say that. But it's what that character would say. It's like every time I would forget that it was running an RPG campaign and some character would just react and be like, Jesus fucking Christ.

And like just the bane of my existence. I got to be like, uh, I don't know why I said that. Just forget I said that. Pretend that I said, uh, Thor. Sith spawn. It just doesn't hit the same way. It doesn't, no. So, yeah, so the clone troopers kind of get, they shoot it out with the pirates to escape.

They jump into the geyser, they're in a geyser field. So for this, the concede of this is they crash in the middle of a geyser field. And the geysers are big. And so you can just jump down in those geyser's. And you'll be safe as long as the geyser doesn't erupt. And naturally, like, Jar Jar, you know, just one with the biome. He's like, we'll be safe down here as long as the beasties, the herd beasties above, are hanging out around these geysers. And right on cue, they run away.

And it's not to make a not too thrilling escape from the geyser and run back to the ship. But the meantime, the pirates have jacked all the drugs. so they're in kind of a rough a rough state meanwhile Count Duku and Anakin and Obi-Wan make a series of escape attempts that are really uninteresting

well he does mind control someone which anytime Jedi do mind control I just like to point it out like I need a mind control tracker I need like a war crime tracker

from the Jedi's of just like Every time they do something that feels extremely against humanity, have to note that. This one at least felt interesting because Obi-Wan was like, I don't know if mind control is easier if you're like convincing someone to do something that they want to do. Because he was like, you're just going to go and just go to the bar. And that guy was like, yeah, I'll do that. At least it was like, hey, go have a good time.

That's fine. He was like, go hurt your friends. He was like, you know, go get an IPA, go listen to some music you like. Yeah. You don't need this fucking job. Duku will prove a nice comparison to that by the end of this episode. Yeah. Yeah, I actually like that bit.

One of their other tricks that I don't understand is Duku does the Anakin's trick. He pulls a plate of fruit over towards the jail cellet and then drops the fruit to reveal what a real. you know, force user does and gets the knife that's on the plate and then uses it to like lock pick the jail cell I don't, it doesn't matter. It's a children's TV show but the lock slot is exactly perfectly built for the knife. I don't know what happens here. I don't need to know what the science of it is. Maybe, but it's very funny.

It's a key knife. Yeah. That's a key knife. Yeah. It's like a key blade but tiny. I feel like if you're a pirate you want to have all of your keys should be knives in case you need a knife. It's like those old gate keys that were pistols. Have you seen those? Yeah. Those things are set. That were pistols.

That's this. I have not. Oh, you would love this shit, Rob. Oh, Rob, this is your shit. They had, so back in the day, I don't know when, gatekeepers had keys and they had, they were pistols as well. so that if like one of the prisoners tried something a little, I don't know, they would just, and you could only carry, you could only, I don't know, you could only carry, but a lot of

them had like, you know, intricate engravings. I know this because I saw it on an episode of pawn stars and then there was like a, there was like a tweet thread about it recently and I was like, oh, okay, other people are thinking about this too. but they look really cool it's like some fucking bloodworn shit like there should be a key gun in bloodworn for sure it feels like it would drop up there

but none of these escape attempts are actually interesting and I think part of that is just limitation of budgets and production like you can't create a interesting like terrain of the pirate base so you're not going to get the Oceans 11 thing of like and then we got to

instead two are also not going to get that when you're going to do a Jar Jar, like, side plot. Like, if they just didn't, just do the escape plot. Just do the escape plot. There are ships there for them to steal. Like, just do the one thing. If you do the one thing, you have time to do the thing. Instead, two escape attempts get blown up in the hallway outside the cell.

That's it. They get, they open the cell. Oh, that is awesome. Yeah. Oh, I love the key gun. Yeah, the key gun's great. Oh, that's just a little one shot. Yeah, it's a little one shot.

You better be, you better. That's taken off your hand for sure. You better not miss. You better make a count. I got to find this thread for you. But, yeah, so like the first time it's like we get out into the hallway and they run into a bunch of guards and then they get cut off and they're like, oh, we're trapped. Honda's like, oh, guys, don't do it again. Now I'm going to tie you up, but like behave yourselves or I won't be so nice.

And that's when Anakin, Not yet again, Obi-1 does the mind control and gets the cell open and they escape. And they just open a door. And there's a bunch of guards there. And they're like, oh, shit, we're caught again. And this time they're set up to get tortured. Hondo's like no more Mr. Nice Hondo. Meanwhile, Jar Jar is kind of taking control of the rescue attempt with the clone troopers.

They find a high-capacity power line grid out there. on Florem, and they're like, surely that's pirating, that's powering a pirate base. Surely. And then they jar jar it. Like, that's it. Like, oh, sorry. I'm also the important part. Turk shows up and sells a terrible story to Hondo about like, oh.

Who buys it completely? Without question. We need tanks. We need your most advanced. artillery to take on something you have not confirmed with your own fucking eyes. Trust me. The most frustrating thing here is like every time we see Hondo in like one of these like high tense conversations or like something where he should be like, have his wits about

him there, he's fucking sloshed and like the camera makes a point of it and like he's just kind of mewling sadly into his cup about how people don't have honor anymore even though My jail is filled with Jedi, and it's like, just for the one hour of one day when you have your meetings, just be fine. And it's just such a frustrating, like, portrayal of drinking in this episode. And I was like, what the fuck, man? Just be a leader. It's, it's fucked because he shows, like, such in the episode before, when he captures

Duku, he's really on his shit. Like, he isn't taking Duku shit at all. like he has zero fear of him and then as soon as he lands on Florham he's just wasted the whole time and it's like all right so I guess that's what you're selling like that's what you're selling him out on

that's his lack of competency is that he's just drunk but they also don't support that because if we don't get a scene like why is Turk doing this like Turk wants money but if we had a thing where it's like look Honda has turned into a sad drunk

who's like not really running this operation for shit anymore but that's not even justified so I didn't even really put together that there's an implication here that like hondo's just too like wasted to tune into what's happening around him um but yeah because it you're right that is there but the show doesn't seem really like make it a major it's not even doing anything yeah it's just like oh he's a pirate this is what he does look at him being a pirate and drinking all the time but he had to I mean to be a pirate yields him to be good at being a pirate yeah he had to amass this this legion of pirates and also this base and uh acquire a torture device and other things and you know all sorts of stuff that takes leadership well I don't know

much leadership the torture device really like you know I don't think that's one of those things where like

only a man of vision could have created this Nikola Tesla ass like an arc torture device

I mean at least you get the capital to purchase it would that's also like he didn't even

want cash he wanted spice did he pay for his torture device in drugs I guess so he's yeah

Republic credits are no good yeah that's the thing he's on black I need something cooler. Yeah, he needs something he can flip for real money.

Yeah. Fair. Also, you're definitely paying... You're definitely paying the torture device installer in drugs. Yeah, he's a plug. And he is not going to be reselling that. I do want to call out something important here that the torture device is like oddly heart-shaped. And, you know, we've all been there with.

your bro and the torture containment feels. You know, it's just just getting electrocuted the homie. Alongside your homie by a drunken pirate. What's better than this?

Just, yeah. So, oh, dude's rock. Dude's fucking rock. But the torture is derailed by the fact that Jarjar jumps aboard causes a comical series of mischances for the pirate tanks.

They destroy a couple of them. They accidentally knock down the power lines, so the power generators run of power. The clones and Jar Jar Jar ride toward the pirate base. But in the meantime, the Jedi are making their third and final escape attempt here. Where... Am I getting that backwards? Is this the one where they tried to do the pole vault?

This is the pole vault, yeah. The last one is the pole vault. yeah where is that has to be right yeah the last one is yeah and that's when Anakin

you know finally says something real and but wait but they were separated from Duku yeah during the torture

so wait when did they reconnect with Duku otherwise it would have had to have happened already oh no no no what happened

yeah yeah okay so pull pull Pull vault happens before torture device. And while torture device is happening, Duku's making his escape. Yeah.

Right. Okay. Yeah. Pull vault was also. You're not going to pull up. So they got out of the hallway that time. They got a little further. It broke down in the hallway,

but they got out of, they got past it, right? Yeah. And got to the outside and got chased down. And they tried to do the pole vault thing. And then, and that is the bit where Count Duku's, like, the connection between Duku and Obie. one gets blasted with a sniper rifle, basically, and that that disconnects the two of them,

which Obi-Wan does not let him fall. Obi-Wan reaches out to grab him as he's tumbling away, and Anakin is struggling to, like, pull himself back up and is telling Obi-Wan just, like, let him fall so that we can get out of here, and he doesn't. So that's that moment. Duku doesn't, like, comment on that, ever. There's no conversation about it. Again, every opportunity for interesting dialogue or movement and characters,

is just nothing, so. Just would it have killed them to include one we're not so different, you and I? Just one, just for me. Just a little song. A treat for Rob. Yeah. So, yeah, the torture sequence

kind of gets like literally diffused by the power cut. The Jedi leap in action, they take Hondo hostage. They start walking out of there. Hondo's like, there's no escape. See, my tanks are coming. Oh, but wait, it's Jar Jar and the clone troopers. And at that point, Duku brutally kills a pirate and a similar escape attempt. Takes a guy's gnailessly

flourishes with a floating gun and just like execute somebody in the back of the head. It was gnarly. This escape rules. The tone change is really good. The music shifts in a way that's like, Oh, oh, okay, Count Duku. I, okay, yeah, yeah, Sith Ward. And it rules, and I wish I'd gotten more of it in this episode. Me too. And then everyone's just like, we're all cool, right? And Honda's like, you aren't going to punish us?

And they're like, nah, why? Who cares, right? And I feel like this does give us some insight into how do things get so fucked up in the Republic. I feel like the Jedi having a very, like, generous, not my problem. No blood, no foul, right? Like, reaction to things like this might explain why piracy and, like, marauding is just, like, running untrammeled. I mean...

I will say that Obi-Wan does do something here, though, that is fascinating, which is he doesn't say there won't be repercussions. What he says is, like, Count Duku is not like us. Yeah. And gets to use Duku as a bit of a cudgel, right? and be the sort of, like, threat so that he can keep his own hands clean. He's like, what's he say? He says, like, what's his name?

Honda was like, ah, very honorable master Jedi. And he wants his, oh, captain, you'll find that Count Duku does not share our sense of honor, and he knows where you live. And it's like, okay, the thing that's happening here is that the Jedi, he gets to leave saying, I didn't threaten anybody, but implying, like, get your shit right,

because someone, something might happen. Listen, I'm not saying I'm going to do anything. I'm just saying something might get done. And that is an interesting, like almost real politic maneuver and understanding of the situation from Obi-Wan. Like, Obi-Wan is canny about the way the world works. He just doesn't necessarily play by the rules he knows the world works by. And I think that is like the aspirational Obi-Wan is you know the world is corrupt.

You understand the ways in which it's broken. You understand the ways in which people have. hurt each other and you say to yourself, I'm not going to be part of that system, but what you don't recognize and what he never recognizes is that he does so selectively. And that is like one of the faults of that model of Jedi is you know enough about the world to get through it and to use it to your advantage to try to make it better, but you don't necessarily recognize the ways in which you're letting it stay like that to your own advantage. He's not going to do anything to stop Duku from coming back here and hurting these people. He'd be happy for it

to happen. He wouldn't say he's happy for it to happen, but listen to the way he delivers that line, you know? It's the very least is, yeah, it would be kind of cool and he's thrilled with the note that he can use that fact to put to put fear into the hearts of these guys who held him captive, right?

So. But at this point, he doesn't know that Karis is dead, does he? I mean. My Karis isn't there. I don't know. Does he even know that, like, does he know? Or, yeah, they mentioned Karis in the cell.

They say like, oh, Carson, and Jar Jar Jar will be here soon. Yeah, yeah. So, I don't know. I don't get, like, how nobody, I guess he's just offloading the murder onto the separate, like, onto Duku. But I don't know how a high-ranking,

what's it called? That's a good point, though. They killed a senator. Yeah. They killed a senator. And, like, well, I don't know, did those, did Turk and what's his name get away? Turk's dead. Oh, that's one of the guys that dooky kills, Duke kills Turk.

But, like, what's Obi-Wan's understanding of the action there, though, like, for real? Because it's like, we get captured, Jar Jar, and this other dude are coming to rescue us. Question mark, question mark, question mark, they get attacked by, there's only other, like, There's only other pirates on the planet There's no like It's not like Oh weather or like Oh there's this other pirate group nearby

You couldn't got them To tell him what happened Like Jarger was like yo we got attacked by these dudes They've run with the same guys Yeah They were all wearing the same shirt and pants That's the other thing about that I know that it's like a cartoon and you could only like

Make so many pants Palet swap it. But, like, yeah, I'm not going to be a pirate to fucking wear the target uniform. Like, why? I'm just wearing a target. It's very frustrating. You got to wear some of the swag that you've accumulated from stealing. You've got to rock your drip.

I'm sorry, Captain Honda, before I sign on with the crew, what are the cosmetic items that we're going to get access to over the course of this campaign? Yeah, I don't know. It's a sloppy episode. This is diplomacy. That's what this is, right? I'm just rewatching the scene. And the exchange specifically is, Honda is like, so what, now you're going to arrest me?

And what Obi-Wan says, and this is to, like, Anakin and Jar-Jar surprise, is no Anakin release him. Captain, you have nothing we want. And since we're not your prisoners anymore, you have no bargaining power. And at that point, he's like, we're leaving on even terms. And when I hear something like that,

That, to me, is someone who thinks what they're doing is bargaining for future positioning in negotiation. And it's a weird way to show that that's how Obi-Wan thinks, because we just have not seen them do that play before. Yeah, I haven't seen them take advantage of anything like that once. But, like, is this, I'm now I'm curious, like, I don't remember, or maybe I've never seen when Honda comes back. But, like, is he, I wish they maybe would have been more explicit and said, like, well, now Honda owes us a favor. We'll be sure to cash that. Yeah, it's, blah, blah, blah, blah. He works at Disneyland.

But, like, that's the thing, right? I bet I'm now, given that Honda works at Disneyland now, we must, he must end up working with people sometime in the near, along with Jedi or some shit in the near future, right? The Republic is so honorable now, and his, his pirate sense of honor makes him want to work with the Republic now and fight against the separatists who want to separate, which pirates don't like. Pirates, for some reason. I, yeah.

Pirates love a stable, sovereign nation. And they hate it. There's nothing they hate more. I don't know. It's weird. So I guess, I think, Austin, again, like, you could point to, it could also be singing in that, oh, this war is going to go on for a while. And we might as well start, like, putting these markers down out there. And we can't fight everyone who's out here.

Though it would appear at no point had the Jedi actually ever started, given what is, you know, what the state of play was that led to this revolt. But, yeah, but I think it's a good point. Like, what about Senator Carras? Like, it feels like we're not on even terms. An envoy was shot under a flag of truce. So, I don't know, things probably were not any, like, this has to get strained out. No, you're right.

But, no, it's like they forgot that that was a thing that people might get mad at. Much like the drugged drinks. Or, or, that just isn't Jedi business. Like, we could be in the whole training day situation of, like, you know, there's police and there's other people. God, you know what would have been sick is if Obi-Wan had left them the spice. Because Jarger is like, I have the spice. And I'm like, listen, you get to have the spice, but we get a, you know, you're in our pocket now. You know what I mean?

The real training day shit. That's slick. We see a post-credit sequence where, like, Obi-Wan is like, pick up. up his rent basically for the yeah exactly yeah he's the plug now that's it I love that for him you come to Obi-on

that's my new fic I was business captain if you've never bought your Wii from a guy named Kenobi you ain't lived imagine being Honda and losing that bag though like knowing that the Republic brought a million dollars

in spice onto your planet and just like that it's gone Like you fuck it up there It's right there It's in that ship I mean he's got to do an internal investigation Right to figure out Boy's already dead

Boy's already dead But he had Conspirators I bet if he believes it Does he believe it Does he just believe that The Republic opened up on him? He's going to have to clear out

He doesn't have time to investigate He has to clear out immediately Credit's roll And we're going to tear this entire place down And get the fuck out And because this is Star Wars we don't know how quickly Duku can show up. So we got to...

Could be a minute. Could be a year. So it's a mess. These are messy episodes. It's like there's a bunch of interesting concepts. And I think where I... I remember them more fondly when I saw them the first time. And then watching them here, I did not anticipate they would collapse on inspection to this degree.

And it makes me a little... apprehensive about, because last episode I was like, man, this show was really found its footing. And I know that a lot of things were still in production and like this whole season's kind of a mess. But now I'm a little apprehensive about like, you know, next episode we're exploring another two-parter

where we got Anakin wounded on another, you know, side planet with a different side quest going on. And I remember that being all right. But I'm really hoping that my pleasant recollections are not as thoroughly exploded as these two episodes.

kind of killed my memory of this pair of apps. The next one that I remember liking is going to be the episode after next. Like our episode after next, is episode 16, The Hidden Enemy. And then I kind of remember not liking much of the remainder of the season until the final episode. So, not disliking it, just not being high on it. But I do remember really liking episode 16. So we'll get there. And I don't remember the next two basically at all, except for Ainsacura's, like, French accent.

Which what I'm wrong about will be a very funny thing to have gotten wrong in memory. So, yeah, we will dig into those episodes on the next episode of a more civilized age. In the meantime, be sure to rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice. Let's bring this back. I like to think we're a five-star podcast, but that's a matter for you, our Galactic Senate. uh to decide and if there's only we know about the black to senate they're good at making decisions uh no but i i trust that you'll you'll prove of our what one last thing aren't doesn't senator caris have like a planet of people that are going to be like what the fuck happened to our senator that's yeah a hundred

percent and you just let you just and the thing is they're not going to ever find they're here the real story because no one's going to talk about the whole jar jar shit everyone's going to bury it Oh, the pirates attacked, he nobly died to try to try to rescue, to try to capture Count Dukyu. Yeah, that's such an easy cover-up when St. Andrews in it. Imagine being an investigative journalist in Sondland, right? Where's like, where does the clone army come from? Fuck, I want to, yeah, someone has to be investigating it, right? I mean.

No, because like, does the press exist in this world? Probably not. Probably not unless it's owned by fucking, yeah, owned by Palpatine. I mean, I just think that like Someone's got to start noticing if people are dying around Jar Jar Binks Like

Most of the time it's not It's clones I know That's true Only family I got Other clones I would just like to say That I would just like to say that

Those in with good in their heart Always pass in too soon That's true Makes you think Yeah That was really When he said that I do think the first

It did The first of our Jedi morals From this week Were like extremely Apologetic The winding path to peace Is always a worthy one Regardless of how many turns it takes

Listen we know these next two We're going to take us off track Trust us, we'll get back around on it and the second one's fail with fail with honor yeah rather than succeed by fraud listen we tried you can't say we didn't try

we tried look we could have done a mystery box episode you fuckers would have loved that shit right but we don't we're going to try something new all right we're just going to try something new it just could have been so easy for it to be good right like the fucking like the teaming up

with your enemy is so fucking cool their little laser belt walking around that show was so cool I love that I mean this is the thing like Batman the animated series

did this stuff effortlessly but it is because it also had a constellation of other characters who were very easy to bounce off

of each other and so at will they could just be like what if we throw these two characters together and at times that becomes

franchise altering right like throwing Ivy and Harley were linked the girl's night out that episode is Changes

All time Yes But Changes the lives of millions of people Oh yeah Never seen it Still somehow feel affected by Wait have you not seen that episode yet

Are you I know you're doing a You're like slowly watching a show A little bit I have to get back into it It was kind of a You should just watch this one episode tonight I probably should It's a standalone episode And it's good

Yeah good for them But that's easier to do When you have like clear established characters to bring something to the table, right? Like, when Batman has to work together with, like, Ivy, for instance, to take down somebody else, you know what the tensions are going to be. Hondo kind of brings nothing to this table. What kills me is that I do feel like if they're in the children's mode, that children's show mode

where stuff has to happen. And honestly, like, the episode we want to see is the dark night interrogation room scene, between Duku and Obi-Wan, right? What brought us to this? Just give us 22 minutes of that, and we'll leave happy. Honestly, it's not, like, I would be happy with the, like, bottle episode of just them, like, debating and fighting inside of that room. Just give me no exit, but the three of them locked in the room, oh, that would actually

be sick, because then you get Duku being able to, like, can bring Anakin over a little bit and like pull on Anakin's more you know you have to change we have to fix things in this universe master it's like that part of it and like dugu can speak to that in a way and then likewise aniken and ducu both aligning in terms of them being a little more practiced and a little bit more status quo in terms of their like what is a Jedi supposed to do and look like oh great love it not this episode couldn't do it they refuse to do it and that's the thing that it's frustrating it's like once next time we're going to get these three characters with an opportunity for for dialogue between all three of them.

It's going to be seasons, you know, probably, if it happens again to have them in a position where we could have had that sort of, you know, back and forth, the kind of ideological duel, and we just might not get that again for a long time. I wonder if they're afraid of that. Like, because you're both bound in by Revenge of the Seth, but also you're kind of like,

how much do we, how many markers do we want to put down for what the politics and fiction of this universe is going to look like? Because you could do a lot of damage to your future content. continuity in the space of a, like, five-minute conversation between those three characters. You could, for instance, wind up in a situation where Anakin can never meet Grievous. To your other point, though, about, like, developing Batman, the animated series having characters, it was so good at developing, bringing those characters on screen quickly and communicating who they were so then they could return to them within a couple, you know, within five or six episodes, like, oh, Ivy is back. oh, Harvey is back, and, like, I know who this person is,

especially for a series that was not being made for DVD, you know, or for streaming. Like, it was being made for Saturday morning cartoons, and that's like, yeah, your kids are going to watch that every week if they, you know, it is, it is children's must-see TV, but, like, at the same time, you couldn't guarantee that that audience would be there, but it was made in such a way, that continuity, that low-key continuity, that sort of like, oh, you remember this person, was important. And my hope is that's what Clone Wars is doing this season with the introduction of people like Luminara, with the introduction of people like Hondo and next week with ELA, it's like,

okay, here are characters that will help, which will come back to. They will develop, they will find niches in the story that then we can return to them in the future seasons. So, maybe just taking a little longer for us to get there, you know, but when I think about the characters we have now, like, I don't know who fucking Captain Rex is. Yeah, I don't know what I mean, I don't know who Cody is. about those guys. Luminar, I have a good handle on. Venturous, I have a good handle on.

Grievous, I have a good handle on. Duku, I kind of have a good handle on, but that's mostly pomp. It's mostly, like, attitude that I get. Yeah. It's not ideology or, like, motivation, motivation, yeah. Well, just felt, like, wasted opportunity of a couple. Yeah. Could have been much better episodes.

Yeah, so much opportunity. And maybe we can talk about those for, three hours I just want to note really quick the three most recent changes on the Wikipedia page have all come from an editor named Darth Yarko

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