A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 117: Nar Shaddaa Pt. 1 (KOTOR II 08)

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

With their work on Onderon stalled out, the Exile and the Ebon Hawk head to the smuggler's moon, Nar Shadaa in search of Jedi Master Zez-Kai Ell. Instead, they find the densest planet in the game, ove...rflowing with side quests, NPCs that seems to exist just for flavor, and some of the most aggressive dark side options yet. Next time: Finish up Nar Shaddaa! Show Notes Hosted by Rob Zacny (robzacny.bsky.social) Featuring Alicia Acampora (ali-online.bsky.social), Austin Walker (austinwalker.bsky.social), and Natalie Watson (nataliewatson.bsky.social) Produced by Chia Contreras (cado.bsky.social) Music by Jack de Quidt (notquitereal.bsky.social Cover art by Xeecee (xeecee.bsky.social)  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zakeney, joined by Ali Akimpora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We are, as always, supported by you are listeners via patreon.com slash civilized. So head over there if you'd like to support the show and get access to all our Q&A episodes and various special editions. this week we go to the smuggler's moon
Starting point is 00:00:31 of Narshada I know it of course as the vertical city which was the gloss that Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight places on it where you trace 8088
Starting point is 00:00:42 through the city who's a cool nasty little information broker droid by the way shout us to the listener who let us know that the actor
Starting point is 00:00:51 who played Kyle Katar in the full motion video cutscenes of Dark Forces too, uh, now owns a vineyard. I love that for him. Sells wine. Shout out. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:03 What a Kyle Katar and got to retire, you know, on the wine moon of Napa. It's, it's kind of fitting, right? Like the whole, that game is about like return home to your ancestral estate. Yeah. Uh, you know, go tour the irrigation works. Yeah. And he did that in real life and started, uh, bottling, bottling wine.
Starting point is 00:01:23 One day we'll have, we'll have Kyle Katar in time on this podcast. We'll get to Dark Forces. sure. I'm waiting. Yeah, those games are fun. But for now, there's, there's so much to, so much. There's a lot. You know, you know what I know, Narcadha'saz? What's that? The place that's too big. It's so big. Too big, too big place. It's bigger, this is the biggest level in the biggest, like, planet in the whole game, I think, by far. We all see how far we even get. I actually don't know. I, I, we had a plan in mind for where we should play to, and then I played all of Narcadon.
Starting point is 00:01:57 As of the time of the recording, I moved last week, so I didn't have time to do the LP edit as of this recording. I'm doing it after this recording for this coming Wednesday. And I'm not yet sure where we're cutting because I don't know where y'all have gotten to. But in the middle of recording that, I was like, I think if we're going to do this in two episodes, we have to play further than I said we had to play, because there's no way to get it all into two otherwise because it's just too big. Or we could gloss some stuff, right? Which is also fine. Like, we could. But in terms of giving y'all an amount to play, if we could.
Starting point is 00:02:27 cut off where I thought were you're going to cut off. Y'all haven't even gotten to the long part of Narcadai. Wait. No. And I got a taste of it. I just felt like an hour cutting my way through a fucking canteena.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh, no. That's not the long part, Rob. Because at least Natalie, you've played for it a little bit, right? I accidentally did. Yeah, I got, I got, well, here's the thing. Narcada, big as hell.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But also sometimes Narshadaa really good. And it takes you in and I got swept away. And then before I knew it, I was like, I think I'm a little bit further than I was supposed to. That's what I always say. You know, you get to narsh it off or you don't like it. It's grimy. It's too spread out.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Can't figure out where you're going. And then there's just something about it. And then you're like, don't talk shit about Narshita on my presence. I got an all-timer scene with an MPC that I don't think. I bet I'm the only person who got it this time. But maybe not. Maybe the Aten people have gotten enough point to the Aten to have done a wild thing. But maybe not.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It seems like the reaction right now seems like no. So I'm going to hold back on my Aten situation. I'm trying to become an Aten person. It's time. I like had him out and about this entire time. I was trying to grade influence. You might be close then because he's so easy to get influence for as long as you're just doing stuff with him in the party. You just need to like check in on him after this is all over.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Or maybe in between because there's a moment. All right. You all want to recap of what we all, of what I believe we did and you can chime in after if there's something I got wrong. Okay. Mm-hmm. Last time. I'm listening for story time.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Story time. Last time, we wrapped up our work for now on Anderan, fleeing the city of Isis and the war between Queen Talia and General Vaclou really kicking off. And we headed towards Narshad in search of our next Jedi master in hiding. I don't think we know which one of it is. Correct me if I'm wrong. Do any of you know which you do? You do.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Okay. Yeah. Okay. Natalie's pointing. I do. You know. On the way, some of us chatted up our companions on board, learning about the handmaidens' parentage and maybe even a certain sensitivity that she has,
Starting point is 00:04:39 teaching Vsas some new tricks, and potentially listening in on some convos between crew members. Eventually, we land on Arshada, the smuggler's moon that orbits Nalhuda, quote-unquote, the glorious jewel and home to the huts. Specifically, we land on Narshadah's refugee quarter. Refugees from what? Well, like Piraugas and Tilos and Andoran before it, Narshadah is caught in the hangover of the last few wars.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Civilians huddle in between the sparsely furnished shipping containers they call their homes. X soldiers start gangs to find order in their lives. And crime lords squeeze everyone they can for a few credits more, at least when they aren't wasting their time trying to get one over on each other. At this point, not counting the main stuff that will cover mostly next time, Narshadah's broken into five zones. First, the refugee landing pad, where we land the Ebenhawk, which is also home, the refugee landing pad, to a brilliant engineer with failing eyesight, a pair of rival shopkeepers with differing business strategies and worldviews, an ex-bounty hunter disenchanted by recent
Starting point is 00:05:44 cynicism that's overtaken the guild. A guy who swears the Ebenhawk is his and a soup race promoter with an unbeatable droid driver. from that central hub, three other zones spoke off. There's the entertainment promenade where gamblers mingle and flirt in the Pazakh den and a simple canteen where, well, we'll come back to that one a little later. Then there's the refugee quad, which is where the ever-present refugees huddled together, scared, sick, and isolated, and caught between a gang of disaffected Republic veterans from the planet Serico who fought in the Mandalorian Wars,
Starting point is 00:06:20 and the most petty of petty tyrants the exchange has to offer. And then there's the docks, home to crime lord Voga the Hut, who is a fan of both dogs and dancers, and a hallway of studio apartments filled with quest NPCs and also some sort of pylon puzzle that I skipped. Natalie, you'll have to fill me in. Finally, at one end of the docks is the Jek Jektar, a bar that pipes in toxic gases that other alien species naturally breed,
Starting point is 00:06:47 and as such, it's a place where all those cultures tend to hang out without humans involved. Maybe you went there, maybe you didn't, you will definitely go there next time. We bounce around between those zones, doing some of the most Cotor-ass quests we've done yet, like trying to get a pilot a new job or trying to reunite a husband and wife
Starting point is 00:07:04 who've been separated by war, all while Crea is in her most iconic form and keeps hammering us with a set of contrasting didactic arguments depending on your choices. First, if you are light-sided, oh, did you think it was good? to do charity? Well, idiot, no. It's bad because if you give something to someone who didn't earn it, then they get a target put on their back, and then because they're not strong because
Starting point is 00:07:31 they didn't earn it, they get beat up. They aren't strong enough to keep what you gave them. And then second, if you're dark-sided, oh, you think you're so powerful that a little charity is beneath you. Dumbass, be careful who you make fun of in high school, because you might just turn them into a super predator. Speaking of super predator, We are not alone on Arshadah. When we first landed on the moon, we got a cutscene of a whole horde of bounty hunters, talking to the hologram of an older man.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That man? Godot, the guy who put a bounty on, the last known Jedi, us. Godo makes this moon his home. Well, technically he makes his super yacht his home, a massive cloaked ship that hangs around in Arshada's orbit and seems to be intercepting all outgoing ships sent by rival crime lords like Voga the Hut, which is important because Voga could be our one new source
Starting point is 00:08:19 So fuel for telos. Godot tells all his bounty hunters, the HK droids, the Zhuge family, remember them from Duxen, a gang of insect-like gand aliens, a pair of sexy Twilic killers called the twin sons. Was that for the Gand or for the sexy Twillicks? The Finesman. I see. Yes. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:39 The findsman, yeah. And a mean-ass wookie named Hanhar that they can track the exile while we're on Narshadah, but that's it. No touching and no fighting. And they definitely agree to all those rules. So as you try to find the Jedi master, which either requires you to gain the good graces of the exchange, or else get their attention negatively such they reveal themselves as enemies, the bounty hunters, including one who wasn't at Godot's meeting, the feisty leather jacket wearing quick talking redhead mirror begin to pursue you. And that is Narshadah so far. I guess actually, depending on where we cut off, either.
Starting point is 00:09:16 we end when someone tries to take the ebb and hawk from us because we landed into their parking spot or we played slightly further than that and see a confrontation between mira and hanhar. I don't know how far ahead y'all have played. I left off as they're about to brawl. Okay, that's fine. You saved right there. Thank God you can save before that fight because there's so much shit right before that fight. And I got to say this right now.
Starting point is 00:09:40 There is more fighting in this edition. This is, I think, the biggest mistake that the TSL CRM makes. You haven't even, maybe we did hit it. Maybe you've hit it at this point. There's a sequence where you fight as like three people from the Ebenhawk as other shit is going on. Okay, you haven't gotten this yet. There's just like-I had an Atten fight. Okay, I got that.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You had the Atten fight. Okay. And then I fought through every single route. I like, I killed every Gand in the galaxy. Oh, the, you in the Jack J-Jaktar. Right, yes. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Oh, my, fuck. That thing goes and goes. And that was in the original because I remember sitting and watching my friend Art do that 20 years ago. Yes. Put my hand up here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Difficulty option got dropped down to easy. This is one to do it, dude. Because it was like, it was Atten specifically. I think it had handled everything else, but Atten was getting rocked by the twin sons. Uh-huh. And it was like, I just don't have like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:10:40 That dude can't apply a Band-Aid. So he's just burning through advanced magic. packed and getting absolute shit off of them because he's just like I don't know what I'm doing. He doesn't know how to deal himself. And just like draping an ace bandage like across the top of his head like a doily. Just
Starting point is 00:10:55 like drinking neosporin just straight like just like what's going on? He's got that spray from Resident Evil or from soccer the heel spray that all those fuckers have. Yeah. So I'm just like I was just like this guy is not going to be he's not going to win this fight.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Also he's he's my sniper. He's my gunman right i see and they're like fight me with swords and i'm like his dextery is good i can tell you i can tell you what i acted yeah i like activated his alter ego because in the i i i've been avoid there's a star wars chat and a in a discord that i'm in and i avoid it very often because they talk about the show but i saw someone say like aden secretly like a melee like he's a melee lord boss like he can do it so like usually when he's with the exile The exile has a lightsaber, so he's in the back shooting. But when he was, like, rocked by these two girls, I gave him the, a Chani, like, sword that I had.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And he rocked him on several novels. And the Mandalorid Arbor, and he, like, won. He, like, just won. Yeah, it was really good. I wonder if he's ever had to fight anyone before. I wonder what's going on with him. Well, I just, there's a little gossip on the street. I fed him every drug that we had.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He was, like, a pincushing. Yeah. By like three, three seconds into that fight, he's just got huge, large more needles, just like sticking out of his, his legs, his butt, his shoulders. And then he's just all jacked up and beating the shit of them with swords, but like, it still took forever. It's hard. It's a hard time. Like, you had to re-up the Mandalium melee shield, like, every five seconds. and then they started taking heel sprays
Starting point is 00:12:44 and I was like you gotta be kidding me that's like how's that right crush them you gotta get them quicker yeah you know I I'm it feels like we're forgetting that you know when you're when you're playing a gun game one of the most important things is to get cover and if if you simply just walk behind the bar the girls can't can't
Starting point is 00:13:11 get to you. What? They don't know how to pass. They don't know. Wait. He could have just, you could have set up in an alamo. Yeah, yeah, you pop and lock. You just, you know, you hit that act to reload. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then you just shoot them until they're dead. Okay, they deserve better. This
Starting point is 00:13:31 is the other thing. That's fair. This is straight up there with fucking MGS4. It's the Beauty and the Beast brigade. Uh, here's Here's four hotties with the saddest fucking stories you've ever heard. Remember this happened on Tilos? Remember there's the hot lady in the bar there who's like, I want to be in charge of the exchange on Tilos.
Starting point is 00:13:54 This game is addicted to hot evil women and then introducing them and then killing them. And then us killing them. But the shitty Zirka exact, she didn't have it. Oh, no, not her. Not her. Not her. The one in the bar. The lady in the red-skinned one.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yes. Yeah. Yes. no that that sucks and she's like you're gonna kill me for no reason now i'm gonna make you do it but this one was was like a here's two hotties and they were like kept as tweel like slaves but then they killed their master and they've been like cutting a bloody swath through the galaxy for revenge and money ever since and i'm like they should be the heroes of this game like this is this is good shit and then they get got by fucking atten by atten in the god damn like this is
Starting point is 00:14:40 like when remember there's that episode of Batman the animated series where that one dweeby dude thinks he killed Batman and everyone wants to celebrate him and joker's like excited to meet him but actually Joker's fucking furious that Batman could get got by a piece of shit like this this was my reaction to Atton getting them yeah where he was like oh I didn't know I didn't know girls like you were at this establishment and then and they kills him He is being nice. It's sneaky. He runs after you and he's like, wait, take these med caps.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I'm so worried about you. And then when he's in the bar, he's like, I'm here to distract you from the exile because I'm protecting her. That's great. We're so. You are so Antibald Allie. We. I need to know the secret. I'm listener.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm looking at you. Because I have gotten the big Atten reveal after, like you said, you're going to. can talk to some people in the refugee sector and they will whisper some things about who Atten, what Atten has gotten up to. Oh, so you talk to him about it. Oh, I fucking talk. You should all go talk to him about it. You should talk to him about the gossip.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That is it. That is the moment. That is the moment. That is the moment. You can bust him wide open right now. The situation is interesting. I am very interested to know how you'll react to what they are doing. I also think it's a little metal gear coded, but we will get
Starting point is 00:16:08 there. And it's taking everything my power enough to talk about it, but I will not talk about it. My thing is, why is everyone in this game a slave to someone that is like, it is like throughout
Starting point is 00:16:24 constantly oh, right. I actually think because two things. One is like, I do think Star Wars is interested in slavery. It always has been, both in the droids and in Anakin and it's all over the original thing. Because the sort of like one of the big touchstones,
Starting point is 00:16:41 the kind of like swords and sandals fantasies really, such like Conan the Barbarian, that style of fantasy, it's filled with slaves, right? I also think because this game, we've talked about the objectivism throughout this game, and never has that horn been louder
Starting point is 00:16:55 than herein don't do charity for people because it hurts them actually zone. I actually think because it is interested in questions of absolute freedom versus like contingent freedom, absolute enslavement versus contingent enslavement that kind of like
Starting point is 00:17:13 are you actually chained to the wall and force to do a thing as a slave or are you allowing yourself to be chained because of your stupid morals and dignity like why don't you just do the thing that needs to be done? And I think that that ends up, you know, turning out that everybody is a slave.
Starting point is 00:17:30 They're slave dancers. There are slave and ex-slave, you know, NPCs. VsS is sort of a slave to Nihilist. Like, it happens again and again. Being in a life debt is a form of slavery. Being the handmaidens are pretty, it's pretty slave-coded IMO. It is.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And, and I mean, even like, like, there, the hottie from the bar on Tilos, like, she was, like, in a... Oh, the hottie you say whose husband sold her? Yes, or her. Yes, like, it's everywhere. It's like, there are so many stories of... somebody who is like entrapped in some sort of dynamic who is either trying is trying to get you to help them to get out of this dynamic and then often what happens is well not often but there have been some examples where that person has tried to take the place of their master so for example the the haughty on telos she's like now that you've killed my you know my boss I'm I'm going to be the boss now, and I want to take on, you know, the role of master and and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And then it's like, nope, got to kill you again because you're, you're like corrupted by the very power dynamic that kept you in. Like you're just perpetrating the same, the same, you know, entrapment system. And then it's just, it is fascinating to me how often the people you meet are in some, some sort of like slave master like subject queen king
Starting point is 00:19:16 there is always some sort of like higher and lower dynamic going on I think like we see it with Hanhart we see it with Mira all of the all of the bounty hunters have some sort of like obligation to someone
Starting point is 00:19:30 so many of the I mean Narshada is literally the refugee sector they're trying to you know bring these people into like indentured um right um yeah the exchange is basically force them into a situation where they're so desperate they have to do whatever the exchange wants exactly yeah i'm curious if this continues to be as like obvious in other on other planets if it's going to be like as um opaque or if we'll have more kind of examples of
Starting point is 00:20:05 subtler power dynamics going on, but it definitely does seem to be a huge concern of this game. I just don't really know what it's trying to say. Well, especially the fact that the game is like, yeah, it's about these like power dynamics and like masters and slaves dynamics. But also, what if we just blurred these lines and created dominant and submissive, like, psychosexual, like relationships sometimes alongside these dynamics sometimes other relationships
Starting point is 00:20:41 recast along those lines you know obviously we talked about Craya's like fucked up speech about Vsas the other which VISA seems to be like
Starting point is 00:20:52 a vessel into which those hangups are poured from like literally her introduction to the game Crea projects them onto your exile where it's like obviously you kind of wonder
Starting point is 00:21:03 what it would be like to, you know, abuse this woman. And then, like, I mean, honestly here, well, actually, here's the thing, the Hanhar Mera dynamic is, like, dark mission and... That's right, Z. Big Z. Yes. Yes. And that is actually one of the more interesting, like, when we get to that, that is one of the more interesting, like, the way. That is one of the more interesting, like,
Starting point is 00:21:33 the way physical dominance and like ties of loyalty but also like resentment are sort of caught up there that's like one of the more interesting places this is used but outside of that like they they keep returning to this notion of like you know really like slave and master stuff is is really closely related to like psychosexual like positions of dominance. And it's like sometimes, but sometimes it's just an economic, uh, relationship of oppression and oppression. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's like the game can't stop being titillated by slavery even as, even as it's like, well, obviously we all, we all agree. It's, you know, pretty bad. Yes. Wherever there's like a, a, uh, there's always a horny version,
Starting point is 00:22:28 like waiting in the shadows like there's always like a sex sexily boobly version of this dynamic somewhere as you're kind of encountering
Starting point is 00:22:42 this series leans fully into the whole like why the Tuelex exists in the world it is to be trafficked basically it is like it is bleak from the standpoint of
Starting point is 00:22:55 obviously Tuelex they're the galaxy's dancers but they are what is it the dude who sells her husband whose husband sells that's a Tweedlack just time and again it's like here's a
Starting point is 00:23:09 here's an oppressed sex object or a femme fatale sex object who used to be a traffic yeah yeah or even I mean even like as like I think misogyny is is happening in like every species on
Starting point is 00:23:25 on I mean on Narshada there's the trade war and the very, the way that it opens between the two trade rivals is you talk to the guy and he's like, why are you talking to the not male Rodeon? Like there's like this whole
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's so weird. The Rodeon has a little fetish. Well, he's not a Rodeon right? He's a, he's some other thing but he calls her the not male Rodeon instead of just being like the Rodeon. Yes, it's like it's so bizarre unless you're talking about somebody else who I'm not remembering I don't remember the fetish guy.
Starting point is 00:23:58 No, no, no, Undar and Gita. No, no, no, when you meet her, she's like, I have a little odd, there's some, I feel like she has a little odd quirk, which is I'm kind of really into humans. Oh, interesting. I thought she just, I don't remember that. I thought she, um, I have like some of the dialogue written down when we get to it, but I think she just has been kind of forced into spending a lot of time with humans because you can talk to her and be able to.
Starting point is 00:24:27 like why do you speak basic so well essentially which is just uh let's get to her let's we're bouncing all over the place i'd love to keep us a little more i think this topic is good i just want to make sure we don't there are a lot of people who haven't played through the game and so don't know who the fuck we're talking about like honhar and mira and gita and and and i don't even think that's a real guy i think i made that guy up um so let's where do we want to start and walk through so that we don't so we can give the background on some of the these folks. I think we should do.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Turning him on and. We did because Natalie said it was the worst scene in the history of storytelling. Okay, so I'm curious, because I turned him on and I'm like, it's HK again. It is. But I am kind of with Natalie
Starting point is 00:25:16 where like this schick worked better when it was like HKs hanging around helping you understand the history of the sand people. That was good. That was good. now it's a little bit more like do get over yourself it's the same well here's the thing this game already has other hks in it we already get the gag over and over again with them
Starting point is 00:25:39 we don't need it and also him here you know doing the same bit necessarily i don't think he has anything new that is especially interesting again he will weigh in on um there's a handful of things you can have him weigh in on, about the other HK droids, about Vsos and the handmaidens love for you. You can ask him what love is. You can ask him about his experience with Revin eventually, but like none of that hits, I think. I think that you're right. And it's all through HK47 at 11, you know, turned all the way up. so and can't find the fight the other hks because it like violates his self-harm protocols and
Starting point is 00:26:30 it's like he needs your help to find where they're coming from so he can go back to being islander would you believe that that's cut content that's been restored and i have to wonder maybe it was cut because it wasn't very good because it's pretty complete that is we're going eventually do the HK like quest because it's part of the full quest at this point in this in this mod I think that along with a couple of the fights that happened on Arshada are two of the big missteps with the CRM and otherwise it's really good because it's filled with little scenes between characters that are great and it's truly a shame that this is not a mod that you can go through and hit some check boxes to turn on certain content and leave others off
Starting point is 00:27:16 but yeah is there any other HK stuff is there other ship stuff we want to hit before we get to Narsheda? On HK, did anyone else get a scene between HK and T3? I got that after the pirates boarded the ship. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We still do that.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. I think it's, I mean, I don't think it's like time, in that timeline sensitive. But so, yes, I did see a scene where HK confronts T3 about where the Navi computer logs. HK seems to be very concerned about the fact that there is some obscuring of where the Ebenhawk has been prior to arriving on Pragus. So T3 tases him. Um, so there's, there seems to be something, T3 is, is definitely holding on to some information. I feel like T3 is kind of like the, the, the glue that is actually keeping this all together. Like T3 is like a low bearing.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like R2. Yes, 100%. Oh, hey buddy, you seem like you know a whole bunch of shot the fuck. Oh, did you all get the, the, uh, Mandelor T3 video yet? We talked about that. Did we talk about that? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Okay. We did. We talked about Mandelor talking to Revan. Yeah. But the audio was cut out. Okay. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. Making sure. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Right. So yeah, T3 knows it all and won't tell anybody anything. Mm-hmm. Um, Um, did anyone else get through, um, the handmaidens trials? Mm-hmm. My guy is a scholar. I see.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Um, a thinker. I see. So, look, master flurries. And respects women too much to. That's so true. Obviously, especially in this game, like, I feel like my exile needs to set a good example. Right. Uh, and be one of a few characters with screen time that doesn't commit egregious
Starting point is 00:29:48 violence against women. So, like, I'm very uncomfortable in those scenes where it's like, let's spar. And it's like, I will not. I see. Well, now that you dropped it down to easy, maybe you should give another shot to push through. And also, if you don't bring her with you, she stays the level she is and you keep leveling up. So that's another way to swing those fights to your favor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, just don't level her. Don't level her. Yeah. The problem is I brought her with me. I see. And we killed a lot of people together. There's a dervish thing where I'm just like you run into those guys and just like sort them up And then Atten's like doing the sneak attacks
Starting point is 00:30:27 And it's a good little routine So maybe we'll come back to the Handmaid's final trial I keep fighting her which means she keeps being in her underwear for every major scene because you look back on The same thing happened to me now obviously I'm doing this respectfully I see I like this is but I'm also not going to use the dialogue like, hey, put some clothes on, because who is my exiled to police women's bodies? I see. Of course. She put her mom's clothes on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:58 She can just do it. She doesn't want to. So you have at least unlocked her mom's clothes at this point. I have. Yeah. I walked past the hallway. I was thinking about fighting her and I was like, I don't really feel like to do with that. Okay. Fair enough. I didn't. I went to know shit on instead. I was played some bazak, you know. Would she know if I'm high on drugs if we thought, like, she can't use any. items during the five.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I think it clears your bonuses. It clears it. I think the mod actually fixes that. I should be allowed to PED my way through this whole situation where it's like, look, what happens in the locker room before the match? We just don't talk about it. Well, you, again, you can cheat and then you're like, you were cheating. And then you're like, there's no cheating in combat dummy.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And she's like, oh, I hadn't thought about it that way. But you still can't actually cheat and advance through the things. You know, like, the next time you do it, she's like, but you're cheating. And they're like, okay, well, I can just do this in a loop. This doesn't really work. So, but yeah, I guess I have a question broadly, Natalie, did that change the way, did you bring the handmaiden after you level her up through? Has the handmade and prestige classed for you at this point?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yes. Okay. So, yeah, we should wait to talk about that scene, I guess, until other people either have it or give up on trying to get it, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We should talk about it then.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Other I just as like a life update I'm darksided now Cool congrats Yeah yeah yeah yeah Also I didn't What a planet to go darksided on by the way Because this is some of the most cartoonish shit there is in the game
Starting point is 00:32:33 It's okay here's what sucks This whole planet is so weird I was trying to It was a very delicate balance Because I would like lose I would go darksided and I would I would be dark-sighted, and then I would just try not to be cartoonishly evil, and then I would gain light side points, and I would go back to Grey Jedi. And here's the thing, I picked up a robe on Narcadah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't know if anybody remembers this woman. Anyone recognize her? Dark, jet black hair, gorgeous eyes. She was from the comics that we read, right? Mm-hmm. Was she the one hooking up with Exarkoon or the... Oh, I forgot about her. This is a Lima Kito.
Starting point is 00:33:28 This is a Lima, keto. And you're wearing her clothing. And I'm wearing her robes, yeah. I see. I see. I see. What do they do? Let's see here. They're pretty good. They're not like, incredible. They're pretty good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I've paid a lot of money for them. I paid a lot of money for them. Who sold those to you? Uh, Undar. Oh, okay. He won't sell me shit. Oh, you're dark-sided. So he's, you're down with him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Well, here's the thing. Well, I'll get to how exactly when we talk about that trade war, because I don't want to skip around too much. But the thing about the Aleema Kito robes is that they are, they are locked to being dark-sided. I see. So every time I would accidentally become light-sided, my clothes would come off. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:19 They would fly off. They would fly off. They would fly off. Wow. It was so annoying. So then I had to. Sounds like a Jerry Lewis movie or something. It was like constantly I'd be like, oh yeah, I'm not going to kill this guy upon after we say hello to each other.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And then it would be like, boom, close off. And I'd have to, you know, kill him to get my clothes back. God, so. I guess I teach us one thing, stripping in public is not dark-sided, because otherwise you would get dark-side points and then be able to keep wearing. This is true. This is true. So, yeah, I'm dark-sided now. I have to say, I haven't really run into any issues with combat.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I bet. Force lighting, force storm is so strong. I have to show you guys a photo of a moment in time. Sorry, I clicked over and it was Ali Wikido doing the serpent illusion summon from Tales of the Jedi. I thought that was your moment in time. I was like, do you know how to do this? Because that's cool. I wish.
Starting point is 00:35:26 But no. The Sith serpent summoning. Instead, I learned how to kill like 15 to 20 ferned at the same time. In the bar, of course. You just went and zapp and they all just die. Like a bug zapper. Holy shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Wow, look at all that XP. Holy shit. Whoa. Holy shit. That's 11 dead bod. It's 11 XP notes at once. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I had to read that my save because I just unlocked Force Lightning, but I fought like eight dudes. And then I was like, I'm running through the rest of this. Like, fuck this. And I just ran through all of the doors because there were like 30 guys. There's worth so much XP, Alley. It's so worth it. It's a lot. I was going around different alcoves, like it was waiting tables.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Be like, have you been brutally executed tonight? Have you heard about the double lightsaber execution stun lock we've been offering? You tear through those dudes. It's wild. It's wild. Also, the other thing about being dark-sighted, which is a curious recurring theme I'm starting to see is that when you're light-sighted,
Starting point is 00:36:47 you are more naked. And when you are dark-sighted, you are more clothed. So we talked about this last podcast because the handmaiden, you know, is dressed sexily. She strips down to her lingerie. She's kind of, you know, and we talked about how Vsauces has, she's more covered, she wears this veil, she's got these long sleeves, et cetera. As you might remember from our very first recording, I remarked that the starting underwear for the female exile was kind of giving skims. It was giving, like, very tight, very short, you know, tank top.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Intent shapewear, even with the, even with the, like, style. But given this game, I can only imagine that for women who's left the charts. So when you go dark-sighted, interestingly, you get, like, the full one. That's like a mass effect body suit. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's totally shepherd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:02 that's very weird with the red line down it's the end of the side it's wild so do we think this is like a comment on like so as you get more light-sided you enter an almost pre-lapsarian state of innocence i see yes where you are not ashamed of nudity or sexuality because you walk in the light And so why would these things be risque or shameful or any of that? But now that I've been in the apple. Yes, exactly. Now you are ashamed. I look down at my fig leaf and I'm like, how could I be so exposed?
Starting point is 00:38:45 I must put on 20 more fig leaves to cover my little, my body. But they must all fit tightly. Yes, but they must be woven to the tips of my fingers. and toes so that not a single piece of skin is exposed. I can't tell if the game is saying something about this. But I found it very odd that it was such a stark difference from the starting undergarments. Maybe it just looks cool. It's like black and red and, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I see why I found out what it is. I found out of a theory. Go ahead, Allie. Well, but did anybody dance for the hunt? I did. We were not allowed to because we're boys. Oh, that, okay. I wonder how you guys had completed that.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Because I was like, I haven't found a... It's because you respect women too much. You can ask your party members to do it for you. Crea will... You can say Crea, and Crea will be like, I don't think so. And the guy will be like, Voga likes younger women. You can ask Vsos, and she'll be like, no. And you can ask Han.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Maiden, and she'll be like, yeah, of course. I love to dance. For you anything. She says something like, well, dance is not that dissimilar from combat. That's so true. You might say that to her, which is even more fucked up. It's so fucked up. I don't quite remember.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But, yeah, guys don't get to. So, yeah, wait, what do you wear if you dance? Anyway, so the reason I was mentioning it is because I was noticing as I was doing it that, like, the, my avatar is only just starting to get. the sort of like Sith uh paleness I think she feels like she is more bags under her eyes than she did when I started this game
Starting point is 00:40:37 but when you put on those clothes I had like a very like gray toned like unfinished textured body that's right and now part of that is like oh did they not model it because you're usually covered
Starting point is 00:40:53 and also is it a thing like you have to cover yourself because you're evil I'm sorry I'm sorry I think it's the first I think it's the someone has said that it's technical someone has theorized this because you have
Starting point is 00:41:09 you have different the skin color on your character's head changes with each step towards the dark side you get increasingly more pale right and so instead of doing multiple skin color retextures for the underwear they just did full body suit
Starting point is 00:41:27 That's, that's, that's a fun fix. That's a, you know, that's a, this game was made, was shipped in 14 months fix is what that sounds like to me, you know. I promise you, there are similar hacks in, in modern games. If you don't have to show it, we don't have to, we don't have to do it. But what's funny is that they do show it in the regular underwear and then they were like, what about dark side underwear? And they went, ah, fuck, fuck. It's like not like they do the full body suit for normal or light side. Well, yeah, but on light side, your, your, your body.
Starting point is 00:41:57 isn't marred by evil, you know, so you can't be out there showing people that kind of stuff. Speaking of Mard, I just want to say, because a lot of people think that I'm saying V-S-S-W-S when I say V-S-I-S. I'm very much saying, like, V-S-A-A-S, is kind of how I pronounce it. If I was saying V-Sos, it'd be an awe sound, I promise you, because my name is Austin, and you would hear the awe sound when I said V-SOS, and that's different than V-Sos. And also, I found a recording of fucking, what's his name? Avalon saying it. And he says something like vis.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Vis mar. But it's not what I hear other people say, which is Vysos, which is wrong. Absolutely not Vysos. But interestingly, have you heard her name said yet? No. No. I think there was one line in the game where another character says her name. And I suspect that's also, we have 14 months to ship this game.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And there's a lot of, you know, you've heard this, there's the Beauder says the general. There's a lot of talking about, you know, Kraya calls her the seer over and over again. There's a lot of like titles, the handmaiden. There's another guy named the disciple. This was very title coded. And I think that's like partly aesthetic, but I also wonder if that's, we have to write the character. And so that's going to be the fucking handmaiden until laid in the script. Yeah, until we get name clearance from George or Lee.
Starting point is 00:43:26 that's right whichever one like that's what I I mean it makes a lot of sense to me and the titles are better like yeah oh you know be wary of the seer awesome menacing foreboding be wary of Sandra not no just you're so close to a character name that we don't know yet that's very funny that's in this game it's not quite Sandra but it has very similar like Like, real person in Earth in the 2000s name. Reality TV show name. There's a character with a reality TV show name, I think. Not a literal one, but, like, could be.
Starting point is 00:44:07 So we'll get there. I'm ready to meet Nicole. So, Ali, sorry, Ali. No, I was just going to say really quickly, while we're talking about, like, time scale stuff in terms of development, if last time on Andron, I was like, I can see that they made this game in 14 months, like, all of this is half baked. When I was playing through this section,
Starting point is 00:44:30 I was like, how the fuck did they do this in 14 months? Because like going to each place and like having an individual cutscene, like, when you reach each quadrants and like all of these like NPC interactions and like, I mean, the areas are not like impressive, but they're huge and there's a lot going on in them that I was like. And there's just NPCs to just talk to for no, the Vulcan bounty hunter guy in the landing zone where you just talk to me about like what it is to be a bounty hunter. Did you talk to the bounty hunter guy from the guild? Yeah. Vosk? Vosk. I don't think so now. Not Bosk. Vosk's
Starting point is 00:45:03 a different guy. Bostk, of course, is a Trandotian bounty hunter from the Contempt of the Empire era. This guy's different. His name is Voss. Very different. He's just there and talk to you about what a bounty hunter is. Where'd the butt, like, why was it any of this on Dara? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:20 This is what I wanted for the for the Beast writers. Like, that's what I was saying when I said, Let the Beast Rider's ride. Like, let us talk to them and them and let them like do things. Yeah, I'm with you. It's weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:45:38 There's so much. So, uh, Narshadah is also very much like, um, 70s urban dystopia right down to be careful where you park your car in the hood. because that is literally this is going to be a thing that comes up throughout this opening is like you park your car and Atten who's like I know a thing or two about this place
Starting point is 00:46:07 like no one gives a shit like there's no law here you can just park your car anywhere it doesn't doesn't matter immediately hey you can't park your car here sorry and it's a Wato it's a little but a Wado with a weird accent like a New York Wado
Starting point is 00:46:22 is New York Wado it is a a Tridarian who has a New Yorker accent. It's so funny. And so he's like, you can't park here. Like, I got, I got some exchange guys coming in here, and they're going to expect their spot. So you need to move your ship. And it's like, just tell me to circle the block a few times.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Get out of my face. It's so funny. And that's going to set, that's going to set in motion, a chain of, like, explosive. violence over this parking space. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it is like it's like a death wish movie. You know, like everyone is on a hair trigger, 100%.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But in fact, you don't get more than 10 feet away from the ship before you were again in that sort of 70s New York crime movie. Because like instantly someone is being mugged basically. Yep. For no reason. And then there's like two other people who are begging for money right after
Starting point is 00:47:20 that. It's like, can you trust them? I don't know. You can't. Like, you see, you can break up the mugging and go full Bronson on these exchange thugs. And then the one guy, and wild things happening was just voice direction and voice acting characterization decisions here. We got an 18th century chimney sweep here to introduce you to nash it ah. Uh-huh. That's right. You do.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Oigov, if you give me a few credits, I'd love to fill you in. about what we got going on. Why has there never been this guy yet until now? Like, it's like, it's, it's, why now? No one else on this planet talks like this. Well, they're refugees, Natalie. They're from other planets. They come with their home accents.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He's from Victorian England. He's a little chimney sweep. And the fucking Jedi Civil War destroyed, Victorian England, the chimney planet. Yeah, chimney, ch-I-M, apostrophe, and I. and he had to flee here. They won't let him do his chimney sleep because he doesn't have a chimney license
Starting point is 00:48:29 or whatever the fuck you need. He just needs one... That's right. He just needs one pens. Yeah. Just one pen. Oh my God. So, yeah, so he's like,
Starting point is 00:48:42 for a few shillings, he's gonna keep an ear to the ground. That's right. Nose to the finger to the side of the nose. Don't worry. He'll keep you in the loop. And immediately when you walk out, of the scene. He sells you out. Immediately he's
Starting point is 00:48:55 like informing on him behind your, behind your back to mirror. I think it would be. Mira, right. Yeah, I forgot that this happened. You know, but that's Mira, Rob. That's just, she's one of the good ones, you know? She's like a bounty hunter with a heart of gold. That's not really selling you out. She's just
Starting point is 00:49:14 da-da-da-da. I don't know. She's sassy. You know who she is. She's Han Solo. But who she looked like. Like, Mara, what's her name? Like Mara fucking Jade. Jade, yes. She's the red, she's the redhead with an, yeah, a hundred, omnipotent, with an attitude.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah, just put that shit right in our game, buddy. Why not? Can't give the drop on her. Yeah. Mira, Mara, it's literally one letter off. Damn, so true. But then they gave, was Mara a headband girl? I just don't know that I see it.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, I don't think so. Different era, different era, you know? this is this is like Mara for like the early 2000s that's right in a lot of in a lot of ways for people who have not seen this character design Mira is a
Starting point is 00:50:03 she has on like a a green shirt that's like tied at her boobs you know like one of those and then like a crop top leather like go look at it you might not have looked closely at her that is what is happening with Mira
Starting point is 00:50:19 just the biggest that you know like We would know. Nobody does that. You know from the, you know, the brooms of sexy women. Yeah, I know from sexy women. Yeah. From sexy women. You know how sexy women work like this.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And she has a green leather jacket that's like a crop top leather jacket and a ridiculous headband. And all of her red hair is popping up out of that in like a, she has the trunk's haircut. She has the future trunks haircut from DBZ. And she has, like, fucking shoulder pads. It's a terrible. Those shoulder pads are not. What a tall boy. It's such a bad look.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It looks, it looks like she, like, sewed a couple, like, sand crawler toys on to her jacket. It's, like, now it's Star Wars. That's right. And then, you know, the other, like, because, again, this is a planet of highs and lows. So the, the, the, the crime syndicates are preying on the refugees, and the refugees are sitting there hands out. Please, sir. Could I, could I please have? So, yeah, if you give somebody some money. Yeah. It's a notorious scene. I don't know if you. Freya is basically like, you know, no matter what you do, you're staging bum fights.
Starting point is 00:51:36 That's right. And it's like, damn, I guess I am, Krea. This is a notorious scene. This is a scene that like everyone has always talked about when they talk about a coach or two. Like you said, Rob, there's a refugee who wants some money. He's like, if you have any credits, it would be a great help. You can. be really evil to him. You can be like, get out of here before I kill you. Um, or you can give him money. When you give him money, Kraya says, why'd you do such a thing? Uh, oh, so this is the evil one. Let me do the right, well, the, the good one first. Uh, she says, um, why did you do such a thing? Well, see, she says the same thing. Such kindness will mean nothing. His path
Starting point is 00:52:12 is set. Giving him what he has not earned is like pouring sand into his hands. And then we kind of get the cutaway to him walking through Narshadah. And you could be like, and help him, or you could say, you know, like, I'm not going to let people suffer when I can do something to help them. And she says, and that, would that be a kindness? What if by surviving another day, he brings a greater darkness upon another? And you're like, what are you talking about? And she says, the force binds all things.
Starting point is 00:52:39 The slightest push, the smallest touch sends echoes throughout life. Even an act of kindness may have more severe repercussions that you could know or can see. giving him something he has not earned perhaps all you have helped him become is a target seeing another elevated often brings the eyes of others who suffer and perhaps in the end all you have wrought is more pain and that is my lesson be careful of charity and kindness that you do more harm with an open hand with open hands than with a clenched fist but if you're mean to him and you're like get the fuck out of here she says why did you do such a thing giving into your feelings over such a small matter. They would be better served elsewhere. And you can push on her. And the thing here is
Starting point is 00:53:23 when you respond to her here, the stuff that you say is kind of like, yeah, I wish I could have been evil in a bigger way. Because you're like, ugh, the world just keeps presenting me with small cruelties. Or it's so difficult to exercise my power when life's obstacles are so insignificant. And she says, the force binds all things. The smallest push. This is the same thing, right? She basically says, like, you don't know how the force is going to change the world. Cruelty leads to suffering, and when one suffers, it's the way of life to spread suffering, the suffering within builds until its sound is all one hears. And when a kindness is offered, it is punished, and a greater darkness is served.
Starting point is 00:53:58 From what act can come tremendous power, when the echo, da-da-da-da-da. And so either you give the guy five bucks and she says that's stupid because you've made him a target, or you tell him to fuck off and you say, and she says, well, that's bad because you've made him darker and that leads him. In that second one, you see him go just attack a guy. You see him freak out because of how evil he's so distressed. And then he just like hit somebody. Well, no, he like falls to his knees on the floor.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He's like, boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-woo. And then like some guy. It's like a Sims. Literally. Yeah, some guy comes up. It was giving Sims A and V. It was. Some guy comes up to be like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:54:37 And he just stands up and like smacks him. Malkreya in the over thing is like, cruelty will be all and kindness will be. assumed as cruel to you because they were so cruel. So I think there are two things happening here. And the one is that it's a very stupid way to characterize. It's not very stupid. They're characterizing her as being contrary, right?
Starting point is 00:54:59 She is the contrarian who's always going to tell you that whatever you did was wrong because she wants to play devil's advocate and make you consider that there's alternatives to what you did. And I think it falls flat because I think the writing falls really flat here. I think the situation is bad. I think you could probably cook this up. make it something different, and I just don't think that they had it. The second thing is something we'll have to come back and talk about
Starting point is 00:55:21 towards the end of the game, after we've all learned a little bit more about Kraya and Kraya's objectives. And that's all I'll say about that one. So, yeah, I mean, for me, like, pursuing the dark side path, I really appreciated the scene because it was the first opportunity that I had to, like, express why that is happening at all. Like, the option that you read of the, like, well I'm just so bored of this I don't have any better way to to be powerful I was like like literally as I was playing it I was like am I even having fun being darksided um and then I had that conversation with Craig I was like okay at least there's like Anna can wonder that a lot too I hope so um you know that was that it gave me a sense to like characterize this stuff instead of just being like I'm in this conversation I have to scroll down to the bottom thing I'm
Starting point is 00:56:16 I'm going to shoot some guy, and then I'm going to get out of this. Like, you know. So do you mean the characterization in this case was, is the thing that you liked the fact that your character was kind of bored by it? Yeah, well, the thing, it was, you know, the dark-sighted options in the game do not feel expressive in a character way. They are, it feels like a mechanic thing that I'm doing to make the bar go deeper. There are like some, you know, some opportunities where you can. like double cross some guy or like you can say one thing to somebody and then you can do a different thing and you can kind of see how that plays out like those opportunities are fun but
Starting point is 00:56:54 otherwise it never feels like i'm actually embodying a character and like thinking about their compulsion in this way and like why they would behave this way beyond just the mechanics and the i want foresightening things so like having the dialogue option to be like this is why i'm acting this way was like the first opportunity that it felt like like a vent for some of the like to actually put some of those things to words right where where it's like I am filled with power I want to be executing it even in these little stupid ways because it's all I can do like it's the only way I get to use my power which is you know why later on you can just tell some people fuck it jump in the hole which also feels bored there's like a degree to it
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think some of the dark side options, you know, you've kind of hit on it here, I think, are like, they're the actions of someone who doesn't think other people are real. And so just kind of like, who the fuck cares? Like, I'm playing a video game and I'm the protagonist. And all of these people don't exist is basically the only version of darksided here. But yeah, I think that's, I think that's interesting. The lightsided version is like, are you fucking kidding me? You know, I gave him five bucks. Sometimes you give someone five bucks, craya. It's not. I get it. I get that it didn't fix Narshada, but I'm not going to not give the guy five bucks. And or if I don't, I'm not going to feel superior about it. I didn't give him five bucks because he needs to earn his five bucks. This is like so 90s discourse as well. Yeah. What do you do with?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Because it's like the anti-welfare state, like that, you know, a social safety net is not a kindness. George Bush's quiet bigotry A hundred percent Uh thing But it also put me in mind of Like this is such a dumb ass exchange But it reminded me of something much smarter Which is in sports night
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah of course This similar question is raised About like Like Isaac Jaffe is sort of the mentor figure He just sort of remarks on As a well compensated media exact in the 90s You know every day walking through downtown New York He's like you are just stepping over
Starting point is 00:59:12 humanity uh you know you know um and if he's got money his pocket he gives it away and a character asks him like well you know aren't you worried they're going to spend it on like booze or drugs and he's like i hope they do i don't fucking do yeah yeah like it's people are not five bucks away from turning it around that's not that that is not the the threshold is can you make the next name more bearable um yeah that's that's all the help you, that's all the justification you need to provide around things like this. It's only when you take this broad back, this zoomed out perspective that Cray is sort of baiting you into, which is like, but did you teach him to fish? Like literally. Like, fucking no. Yeah. It's no. What do you expect
Starting point is 01:00:01 me to do? That's not why we gave the money. And guess what, Craya, we're like three hours away from like assassinating all the exchange bosses here on Narshadah's refugee quarter. We're going to get to the systemic change, I promise, one lightsaber slash at a time. For now, I'm giving this guy five bucks back off. That's not what I said at all, actually. What I said was, I'll consider this. Thank you for the influence points. In the background of the scene, you can see a droid and a Celestin in the window looking out onto your landing pad or all these exchanges are happening. You walk through there and you talk to a, first you meet a droid who's like, I am number 44 or whatever that all the other ones have been destroyed. Well, how'd they get
Starting point is 01:00:57 destroyed? Well, my master's a great master, a great engineer, but a little old. And it turns out that Celustin Mr. Magoo is your key Natalie, Mr. Magoo was a cartoon character who like he was sort of a chronically near-sighted misadventurer who was well-meaning and harmless but did cause trouble throughout his many
Starting point is 01:01:26 his many adventures usually because he wasn't really cognizant of what was happening around him misinterpreted events in a very humorous style. So that's that's my loss on that. Mr. Magoo's good time. It looks like Mr. Magoo got a reboot. Yeah. Was there Mr. McGoo too? In 2019, so...
Starting point is 01:01:45 Oh my God. Look at this guy. Mr. Magoo will live for generations to come. It might have just skipped me, but you know, Gen Delta or whatever the fuck is happening now. Yep. We'll know the adventures of Mr. Magoo and look back on them. fondly when they're doing their own podcast about a listen-along to a more civilized age. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Can you believe they said we didn't? We wouldn't know who Mr. Magoo was? That's them saying it in 20 years. Yeah. People got like Magoo taps. That's right. Mr. Magoo has, Mr. Magoo has the run that Tweedy Bird did in the 90s, but it's like 2040. Could you imagine if everyone had like Mr. Magoo PJs and like
Starting point is 01:02:38 Mr. McGoo with a fleshy's on the t-shirt? Absolutely. It's happening. Can we do this though? I want that for him. We could. We could make it happen. Who owns Mr. Magoo?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Hit us up. We'll figure out how to print you some t-shirts. But this selection is the only I can basically fix you up with phony IDs for your spaceship. Right. But in the meantime. The meantime, the shops fall in a hard time. The droid needs you to go get one of the previous droids who still has a little trade secrets knocking around his noggin. But he is being, he's been picked up by this horrible junk dealer.
Starting point is 01:03:18 That's how it sounds. And he seems fine. He seems fine. I don't. So there's stuff I know about this quest. I guess Ali and Natalie, you'll have to fill me in as the evil ones. I know you can sell T3 to this guy. But I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Why would I ever do? do that. I just paid him the money for the droid I needed and left. Like, he didn't seem mean. He didn't seem bad. It was like $500 too. It was like no money. What? Yeah. It's nothing. Yeah. No, no, no. Sorry. You're telling me he gave you 500 for T3. No, no, no, no. He charges a very reasonable amount for the droid that you get from him. Yes. Yes. How much do you get for selling him T3? Speaking of slavery. You can get like
Starting point is 01:03:59 one to two K, I think. Not worth it. Depending on how. how you negotiate with him. Come on. T3 is worth more than that. T3 has so many slots for items. Absolutely. Precisely.
Starting point is 01:04:13 What's odd is that this decision has a payoff much later down the line that assumes that you did sell T3 to him. Is this with like the warehouse stuff? Yes. Okay. Weird.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Which threw me off because is that included in what we're going to be talking about? I don't remember. Did y'all get to the... Yes, it is because it's pre-Yot. Yes, it's pre-Yot. I don't know if they got to... I didn't make it in.
Starting point is 01:04:44 They didn't make it through... Oh, shit. We didn't... You know, Natalie, you and I got to the yacht. I don't think... I see, I see. Remember the stopping point was before that, so... Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I couldn't remember where the beasts... Right. Happened. Yeah. Yeah, so the game will assume that you did sell T3 and it picks up later on as if
Starting point is 01:05:08 T3 has been sold to another person. So we'll see when I did that I just assumed that was like a lie. We'll talk about it next time. Let's talk about it next time. Oh, okay. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, you can just sell you could sell them here or you can go buy the
Starting point is 01:05:24 droid that you need. I think you can even fight this guy. I'm just going to take the droid for me. You could just kill him. So weird. I did not. And the droid back and the droid has some info for the guy. And then it's like, good job. You did a quest. Oh, you get like a shield.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah. And then you can. All right, you do get a shield. Yeah, you can, you can ransom the droid and be like, I'm not giving you back this droid unless you hand over them, those shield, uh, that shield IP. And the droid could be like, oh, I can't afford to do that. Uh, and then you can say, well, what can you offer me? How about a discount from your boss?
Starting point is 01:06:03 And he's like, I can't do that. And he's like, are you sure you can't do that? And he's like, I suppose he can't see the computer so I could put some stuff in the computer to make it so that, you know, you get a 10% discount from here on out. No, I'm not buying that many droid parts. I got to tell you. I don't, I never need droid parts. I have so many. I have so many fucking droid parts.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I never, like, the droids rarely roll out with me in the. Because, like, I love T3 and his boo-do-d-d-d-d-wee. Yeah, me too. But what am I doing? He's not a hang the way the other... And let me tell you, I know that I'm never going to max out there influence and turn them into Jedi. So I, you know, I got other priorities over here, frankly. If only.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I'm just, I'm, like, up to my ass in, like, high-level droid parts. And there's just nothing I need to buy. It's like I've got, it's like I have storage unit full of, like, droid parts. equipment. There will be a point coming up where if you really want to use some droids like droid v. droid combat type stuff, there will be an opportunity where it'll be like you're going to select two characters to go meet up with your exile. That's a place where maybe you could bring a droid because you're fighting a bunch of droids and like T3 has that droid zapper and they're pretty good against droids. If that's if you really want to break a droid out and use one, but it's fine.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's just, it's fine. You can get, you can max out your T3. re-influence on the ship by repairing and stuff. You can do the HK stuff simply by doing the HK stuff. It's not a big deal. Yeah. Anything else in this first zone? Oh, yeah, sorry, Alie, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, I don't want to be seen with HK and T3 has enough stuff to do on the ship.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Like, it's fucked up. Yeah. True. He's busy. Speaking of droids. He's both in busy on the ship. Did you all win the, do you all deal with the droid driver, the droid swoop guy? Actually, can we talk about how fucked up?
Starting point is 01:08:01 This is a weird track is? I didn't, so, I dealt with the driver. I didn't go swoop racing. I've really had very little patience for it this game. But they do describe it. It's got like, like, it's designed to like, it's like a nightmare mini golf course where they're like trying to blow you into hazards. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And there's a different race happening on it while you're racing. Sort of. There's cross traffic. It like never really comes up. The wind things are real. And there are crushers like in a Mario level. Like I think it comes out trying to crush you It's like what are you doing here
Starting point is 01:08:34 This is not because only a droid could beat it Oh yeah apparently Built for the super droid We don't have to do this whole long quest But this is a weird one You walk in like the old owner of the OTB Is like on the ground And it's like don't worry about him
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's fine There's a woman over in the corner Tweedlack and she's like Over here This OTB is bent They're running swoop races, but they have an unbeatable droids in there that is basically dominating the circuit. So they are just like fixing races and nobody can, uh, nobody, nobody can win at this, at this track.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Uh, but if you help her sabotage the droid, she can do a takeover, uh, from these other like slimy tweelix, literally slimy. Uh, they got the slime tails, uh, that something pop up that we don't, we don't like. And then the droids just back there in a foreshield of page. and you can just, like, crack that thing open and sabotage it. Yep. I used my computer skill or Atten's computer skill to be, like, make it self-destruct and did. And then the guys who've taken over this bedding shop are like, oh, no, my ringer. It's right behind the cashier.
Starting point is 01:09:53 It's so funny. They're like, oh, my God, what happened? I don't know. It all just blew up. He's like, are you okay? It's like your prize horse is Mr. Ed working in the back of the store And you just walk around behind the corner
Starting point is 01:10:06 And shoot Mr. Ed in the head Who would do this? And everyone's like, what the fuck? Oh my God. Why would Mr. Ed do that to himself? Bro, that's crazy. It's wild. And the other great thing about this place is
Starting point is 01:10:19 Y'all like get high and stare off into the Narshadah like skyline with that dude. It's so vibes. Bro, Narcadah, right? You know, it's like home, but it's kind of not home. It's kind of like hopeful but hopeless, right? I love that guy.
Starting point is 01:10:38 That guy, fucking rules. I need like a dream that more Rhodian. Literally. Rodian stoner. It's great. I need like the like 10 hour like lofi ambient cut of just like standing with the Rodian looking out into Narcadah. Just vibes basically.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah. Isn't it beautiful? He's my friend. It is beautiful, but I miss my family. Just trying to earn a little money as a soup racer. It's great. Like, it's like the rare time that you just like hang out with another soup racer and it's not like a before you race him. No, you just chill with him.
Starting point is 01:11:14 There's nothing. You just talk to a guy. Which could correct again, Allie. Why is this city filled with just like NPCs with unique stuff that isn't tied to anything? This must have been like the first planet they did. I really think that that might be in case. It's like, it's like, it's literally like the, the. When you, when you do the happy birthday card and you draw the big age, the big, Narshedah is the biggest.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh shit, Andoran. Onuron's a really long word. We're going to have to make it really fucking small. That's a long word. Okay, okay. Let's just use, okay. Remember the next tour, Dantuin and Corbyn, planets from the first game. They just got the geometry for those levels already.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Let's pop those back in. Forget about it. If we get to Dantuin and we're like literally in those fields again and like I'm going to lose my mind. Yeah. It's going to be awesome. Some say that droid is still out there who is forced to be that widow's husband. I forgot about that guy. I hope.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I hope he pops up. I hope he's here. I will. Oh my God. That would actually be the greatest thing ever. What if he's vibing? Any characters to bring, I hope he's like, he has like a little coffee shop that he's running. Or that he's, he's like, he's got a little, like a little cottage in the field somewhere and he's sitting on the patio and he's reading a book.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I love it. I want that for him. Anything for him. Anything for him. That'd be great. So that question is just a bag of, bag of XP. You can talk to the bounty hunter guy who's like in my day, bounty hunting was was about honor. He gives you the full briefing on all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Again, this game's General Tenor, when you have the, when he's like, let me tell you about the twin sons, the two Twilac hotties, you can just go full like, doesn't sound so bad to me. Is that a huge really fair? He told me I got two beautiful braweds chasing me across the stars. That is it. Yauza. It's very stupid. I will say. I wish I could be a wauza guy, but as a woman.
Starting point is 01:13:25 in this game like actually more than anything you literally can't it is only dudes who can say this because he says they're there are the twin sons both two twilight slaves from ryloth slaves who killed their masters and developed a taste for it they've mastered a dance of death very beautiful very dangerous that's fine but then if you're a guy you can say well sounds great two beautiful twilex are hunting me how is that bad and what if i wanted to kill the other bounty hunters but still have the Twylex chase me. It's just... And then it cuts to the handmaiden
Starting point is 01:13:59 who's just like silently watching you. Why can't a woman be Roger Rabbit is what I want to know. Like why, what is wrong with just wanting to be, you know, wanting to have your own Jessica Rabbit situation. You know, I think that's something we all want. I will say, I do think as I get further into the at and stuff,
Starting point is 01:14:20 none of it gets to Jessica Rabbit or to Roger Rabbit Ouga mode but I do think it kind of and it's not the same as the sexualization that's happening to the handmaiden or Vsos but I or presumably mirror which we haven't gone down that road yet but presumably
Starting point is 01:14:36 I do think that this game does understand how many women like a little fucked up freak who does bad things I do actually think they might get it about that At the time, I think I would have been like, wow, I can't believe this is the primary romance interest for women, for, you know, female characters in this game. But now, I actually think they might be on to something with how fucked he is because he's, well, you'll see.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You know. I am starting to understand that he's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it just, it just, it just took so long to realize that there's something to fix about him. Just wait. There's a lot to fix about the boy. Oh. The boy is broke. In many ways. I need to know.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I need to know. I forget because I couldn't. So here's the other thing. Narsh it out big, but like spread out. Very spread out. And this section actually didn't seem to work super well for me because I have high persuade. So I was just bypassing stuff that feels like it was supposed to
Starting point is 01:15:50 hook in the quests that just like so i i met the scuraco guys or saraco guys and was just like uh go let me see them and they were all right go go see them and there was no introduction for who they were nope uh i had some lady some dude's wife was released by viscous who then didn't know who i was like an hour later uh and it's like you just the jedi like you will release this lady, never figured out what that was hooked into. You're telling me people are here to talk about Atten. Nobody talked to me about Atten.
Starting point is 01:16:27 There was nobody... Did you go to the refugee sector first? I would do. Early on. It was so empty. So there's a bunch of NPCs in that middle zone, Rob, that look like they're just background people, but they, like, all of them have a little something. There's a handful of people that are just like refugee,
Starting point is 01:16:44 but there's a bunch of people, and there's one place you can go in that center area where someone will, oh, you know what it is? you might not have gotten enough good guy points yet or maybe enough bad guy points because at a certain point for me they came up to me and were like hey we've seen you helping people out uh we just got to let you know that dude aton that you're fucking with do not fuck with him he's been here before he has a reputation here and i don't know maybe that doesn't trigger if you haven't either you maybe you don't have the atten rep you
Starting point is 01:17:13 need or you don't have the the narshadah rep you need or something so maybe go back there after we're done. I didn't talk to people who looked too NPC-ish. So I should also go back through there. There's two Twilix that will be standing there that you can go up and speak to. And they're the ones who will sell you like for fried credits information on Atten. Yeah. And it's apparently even if he's not in your party, they will be like, hey, what's...
Starting point is 01:17:39 Oh, no. I took Atten out of my party for it. So I wanted to be like, what's the tea on him? He just stood in the background for me. It was very funny. Yeah. What was crazy is right after that, I ran to the Evenhawk for something, and there, I saw a cutscene between Atten and Bauder, where Atten was like, yo, let me talk to you for a second, Bauder. And Bow's like, I don't want to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:18:05 And he's like, but I just really need to get something off my chest. I just feel like, like, and he's like, I'm busy. I'm working on the ship. No. And Atten's like, well, let me just. there's something about the general that I just really like and Bauder's like I literally I please stop talking to me and he's like well what do you know about the general and he's like you know I served with her in the Mandalorian Wars or whatever and Atten will be like do you think
Starting point is 01:18:39 that maybe and Bauder is like no damn no and ad and's like no I'm just saying, like, maybe me and her. They're literally doing the Luke and Han discussion from... Yes, yes, yes. And then it gets like, you know, Bows, like, I'm done with this conversation. Is Bayo kind of jealous? No, it's like, it's more so, like, he doesn't want to think of this person in that way. Like, it kind of reads, like, Bauder has so much respect for the, for the, for the,
Starting point is 01:19:17 exile that like it's almost like there's a reverence and like a you know this is a boundary that general doesn't have sex right right like that is not somebody to do to be and maybe that there is like a a sort of infatuation behind that I think there's like a world in which like you just you you you just respect a woman so much that no one else can much like my exile right She would never have sex She would never do that She's just the best So it was just really funny
Starting point is 01:19:55 To have somebody telling me Atten is not the person you think they are What they explicitly say is Don't trust him He's not a soldier, he's a killer Tried and true I can give you nothing more than the warning The rest is up to you
Starting point is 01:20:10 Which brought me back to A lady killer It brought me back to that conversation that Atten has with the exile when Vsauce first enters the ship. And he says something like people from Miraluca, was it Mirulukins, yeah. Yeah, Mirulukins are incredibly rare and really hard to kill. And the way that he talks about that, it's like a fucking Pokemon. Like, he's like, they're super hard to find and really hard to kill. Yeah, Attenzer are ineffective against Mira Lucas, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Exactly. It just, it made me feel like, yeah, this guy was like, I don't know, some sort of like assassin or something. Like, he, there's just something here that we don't know. And he keeps, slowly we're on, like, he's kind of, um, for, forgetting to, or he's letting us in or, you know, forgetting to keep his cover, but yeah. I have added to our Atten Facts list, number 10, Twylex on Arsada, Khollin, he's not a soldier, he's a killer.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yes. Atten Fax. Atten Facts. Yeah, the other stuff that, Rob, the stuff that you missed here, it sounds like, again, this is something I talked about the intro as being like Kotor Ask, Kotor quests. Guy gets separated from his wife, and they think that. the other one is dead and you have to like you know rescue her uh kid is is kidnapped by the exchange and you have to go like buy her freedom and or kill everybody you could make the saraco go
Starting point is 01:21:56 attack the the exchange if you want to and that'll whittle them down and you can go back through and kill the rest if you want to all of the exchange people uh there's a guy who's sick and has the plague and you can use that to like convince the exchange to give the refugees a little more space to live in, but you can also just kind of cure him if you have treat injury that's high enough. Or you can kill him so that the plague doesn't spread and you get some dark side points, I guess, presumably. If you kill him, do you get dark side points? You must, right? Yeah. Yeah. Which is weird. It's this type of stuff over and over again, you know, and it's all fine. It's like, this is some of the most MMO type shit that the game has, I feel. Like, it's the most,
Starting point is 01:22:39 like, especially the old Republican where I was filled with stuff like this. Where it's like, here's a seven-minute walk from everywhere. There's just so much. Oh, did you all fix the bike? I did. There's a bike in that district. The air speeder.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did you all have Baye-Dur and Atten in your party? No. For the Brodown? I had Baye-Dur, but I didn't have Atten. If they're both there when you fix the bike, this cool shit happens?
Starting point is 01:23:05 It's not cool shit. And it doesn't, you know, people will tell you, you better have them both there because you get so much influence. You don't get that much influence. I think that there's a wide misunderstanding of how the influence system works in this game, which we kind of talked about last time, that like there's a ton of opportunities to get influence on people. You obviously get less as the game continues and there's less opportunities for
Starting point is 01:23:25 light side, dark side stuff to happen. But when you do a good thing, both Beauder and Atten like it, so there's all these opportunities where you can max them out besides this. You get eight points of influence on most of those things. on this you get two with either of them and so it's not that big of a deal to miss it but when you get to that air speeder um uh atten it's it's it's actually four characters
Starting point is 01:23:46 it's atten it's baildur it's hk and i think it's t3 can all help with the repair and if you've atten and bail dur can be like oh yeah i can hack the controls open for you and then after you do the repair bail dur can be like let me take a look at it general i'll make sure that everything looks okay and then you get you get influence on with him but just fun to be like If you head, only if you head pat him, though. That's right.
Starting point is 01:24:08 That's right. You're going to be like, thanks for your help, Beauder. If you say, let's try it out. That doesn't really do anything. No, you have to say, you have to tell him he did a good job and he'll be happy. Yeah. And with, same thing with Atten, even with Atten, you, if he's like, hey, let me take care of that for you. If you're like, sure, Atten, that doesn't give him points.
Starting point is 01:24:30 But you've got to say, all right, I'm with the expert handle it. And he's like, yeah, expert. And I like the sound of that. And then he'll do it. So you cannot, that's what the money is for with any of these. None of these motherfuckers. No. Wait, actually, I did have both of them because I do remember I'm saying that.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And I was like, okay, but I'm going to hand it to Baye O'Dur at the end of the day to make sure that it's actually, it's actually all right. Yep. It's very funny. There's the boys. That's me and the boys hanging out working on the air speeder. Using it to fast travel between this way too big set of maps. But it's only from two points No, it can go to, it can go to three points
Starting point is 01:25:09 It can go between It can go to the same point in the docks And it can also go back to the refugee landing pad So it's three points total Wait, how is that three? It's the docks It's the place in the refugee Oh, oh, okay, okay And the refugee landing pad
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's three I saved that for the very end so it didn't actually prove useful really, but it's the one thing that's useful about it is it can let you get between the quad and the docks without going back. Sorry, yeah, the quad and the docks, not the landing pad, which is different, without going back to the landing pad, which will trigger the pirates coming for your ship, right? And so, like, for instance, you can go, the other, that last zone is the docks, and it's the one where Voga the Hut is, it's where the J.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Chiktar is, and it's where there's a weird L-shaped hallway of, like, single studio apartments, like little one-room places that all have, like, oh, this is one with the Mandalorians in it, this is the one with the gang members in it, this is the one with the weird scientist in it, this is the one with the sad husband, like, it's just, it's weird. Are those apartments? There's a million stories in the naked city. That's right. I thought it was like a storage facility.
Starting point is 01:26:27 It's a stretch to call those apartments. That's right. It's hardscrabble here on Narshadah. They're flop houses, technically. To you, this is clearly a storage facility. These are people living in storage units. I mean, literally the refugees are in absolute shipping containers. That's 100% what they're in.
Starting point is 01:26:44 So, yeah, I think that's what they're the docks. They're warehouses on the docks, and people are just crashing there, you know, waiting for their wives or tracking a mysterious signal that I don't know that anything ever happens with that? The droids just go berserk and kill tons of people. and then the guy disappeared. Yeah. Never found him. Yeah, I don't know if I missed something there or what, but.
Starting point is 01:27:05 I also, I've had people disappear. There's a woman who's being harassed in the, in the Pizak parlor, in the bar and the entertainment promenade. Uh, and I beat the shit out of a dude, and she just, like, phased out of existence during the fight, and the conversation never continued. Weird. I didn't get anything for respecting that woman and intervening
Starting point is 01:27:28 to deal with that guy who was getting too fresh at the bar and I feel cheated what a fucking tease Natalie did you ever figure out this pylon thing yeah I did it's so stupid please go on did it have to do with the modules on the like
Starting point is 01:27:47 it had no how did you even know because I was like surely you're going to tell me they're like they're going to tell me there's a puzzle like it's right yes exactly there's three switchboards there's three pylons you got but like I was waiting for the moment where the game's like okay so here's why all this stuff is here did you find the on right yeah you have you have to talk to
Starting point is 01:28:12 FASA and if you talk to FASA he's the uh Toydarian who's um like just floating in the middle of the walkway and so if you talk not a New York Tarian no Yes. He's also probably from New York, yeah. But he's a different guy than the other guy that's at the landing pad. So FASA is having an issue in which a bunch of his ships are coming in at different times, and he needs to assign them the correct priority. Otherwise, he's going to be in big trouble. So the problem is you can't have power to all the pylons at the same time. So what you have to do is go to each of the consoles and write down the numbers. And he tells you, you know, which numbers, like a higher number means higher priority.
Starting point is 01:29:16 So put that in order. And then you go to him or you go to the power console. you convince him to give you the ability to use the power console and you assign priority to the three incoming shipments and that gets you a really good item from FASA. I see. Did I miss this because I just fixed the power thing? Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I see. Do I just not get the reward? No, if you talk to FASA, he'll be like, ah, you fixed it. Okay. Okay. Anything else you need? And you can be like, I have other questions for you. And when you leave that conversation, he'll have given you an item. That makes sense. I'm always opening my inventory in this game, and it'll be like, you got a cool robe. And I'm like, where did I get this cool? Like, what robe is this? So Fossa is, is there, Fossa is a place where a lot of people, when I was doing my research, aka looking up guides for how to do this stupid quest, people will save right before talking to him because he gives you,
Starting point is 01:30:21 One of, like, for every category, he'll give you one thing, but it's like a really good thing in that category. So he, I saved right before. And one thing I got from him was a Mandalorian Ripper. One thing he offered me was the super awesome scoundrel gloves that give you like plus. Oh my God. The two out, what are the plus five decks ones? Yes. They're so good. Put those on Atten.
Starting point is 01:30:48 He's invincible. This is the thing. Well, I, go ahead. I ended up getting them from somebody else somehow. So I did get that. But I, that's who I got a Lee Makito's rope. I see. And I was like, fuck, do I, I was like, do I keep rolling for something that's probably actually better?
Starting point is 01:31:05 Or do I keep a Lea Kito's robes because it's a Lea Kido's robes? I was like, I got to keep. You got to keep the robe. Yeah. Thank you for fix his robes. Right. Yeah. Is it from this guy, too?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Might have been. I just looked up and it was like, I've got Exarcoons. Robs now. Yeah. They're fine. I can't wear them because my guy is like fully in the light.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Send them over. I'll trade you for remember ArchaJeth everyone? We all love ArchaJeth the powerful Arcanean Jedi master
Starting point is 01:31:41 who was killed in the Great Sith War. And his Oh, it's the old guy. It's the old guy from the comics. First of all, we have
Starting point is 01:31:50 never been more on the beating pulse of what is important about Star Wars and what is like what we should be reading what we should be watching etc we have the er text we have the we have we're on the beat of the er text uh everyone should read those comics because they're really fucking crazy they're fun yeah they're goofy they're fun um but yeah they're all he All those guys, their clothes are in this game. Wow, even before the era of the live service game, Cotor 2 was putting the clothes you know from that other thing in your game. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:37 I'm like, is there going to be a lore reason for why, like, everyone's clothes are here? I can tell you why, and it is because the developers of this game read all those comics in a way that I'm not actually sure. either if they were fully available or if the Cotor I people did in the same way I it is one of the things that comes up about this game is that like
Starting point is 01:32:58 in the process of research for this the writing team was like we're doing a deep dive on everything that is available on Star Wars in Star Wars in Star Wars EU and that's why this really hit for them it's like well that's the thing for me is how did this how did Fossa
Starting point is 01:33:12 get Alima Kido's road hey thank you for helping me with the pylon I got this robe kicking around for someone like you the Jedi, you want to take it off in my hands? Hey, you know, these were the people, the movers and shakers of the world, but a couple
Starting point is 01:33:27 decades ago, so, you know, you rent out a warehouse on the dock to some guy and then they don't pay their fee and you open it up and now all those units have been emptied to make room for the refugees. Right, you repoed their old storage facility or whatever. You put the, well,
Starting point is 01:33:43 yeah, we got a, we got a pretty good A-ranking storage bin who wants to, who wants to buy We're putting up for auction. We're doing storage wars. It's XR Coon's third storage bank. I can't say what's in it, but it might be some lightsaber crystals.
Starting point is 01:33:59 You know? Just so you know, I did not make that up about the Rodeon merchant being a purve. Tell me about it. So this is back in the main zone. Tell me about the purve. I got a screenshot where he's just explaining. So what are you doing around all these humans? I must confess that I have always found the human shape and pigmentation.
Starting point is 01:34:19 pleasing, but my perversion has proven something of a subject of distaste to my clan. Huh. Wait, Gita says a scene? So she gets to be fucking Roger Rabbit. Wow. She's, she's into it.
Starting point is 01:34:36 No Roger Rabbit for Natalie, but Gita. Wait, I'm losing my mind. I must have just blacked out during this. I don't, well, she might not upset to you because maybe your delicate, uh, feminine sensibilities in this game. Maybe Maybe he'll only say this to a male exile Because it's like
Starting point is 01:34:55 You know what I'm saying right Nice is that real That would be wild That would be wild Oh no she did she did She did say that to me I think I read that I think I blocked it out
Starting point is 01:35:08 Because it's uncomfortable Because in the moment I thought I was being Mad racist In saying to her You're pretty articulate for a Rodeon I was like that's fucked up for me to say That didn't start strong That didn't start strong
Starting point is 01:35:19 Right? Like, I felt like, okay, that, I just need to blackout whatever comes after this because I'm already in the fucking wacko zone for saying this shit to her. I think the first thing, the first thing you say to her is like, she says, you seem like a seasoned spacer and maybe a veteran of a war to come. And the first thing I was like, what do you mean a veteran of the war to come? He's like, struggles and battles are the way of the universe. The pitch and yaws empire's fall and rise at the risk of seeming shallow. Such struggles keep me in the business.
Starting point is 01:35:57 By your stance, I can tell you've seen many battles, and you are not ready to lay your weapons aside. Is she, does she in the force? Is she a tuned? Who is Gita? Gita is like, Gita is somebody. Well, here's the thing. I cited with her because I am an ally. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:14 And I don't fuck with this guy talking about not male Rodians. It was, it was, it's giving weird, it's giving I don't like it. I mean, that guy's giving real in-cell vibes. It's fucked. And what's wild is. I can't believe there's a woman stealing my customers. I can't handle it. You need to kill her immediately.
Starting point is 01:36:33 And they're like, and they each have a corner. That's right. It's like identical real estate. They're like 20 minutes away from each other. It's a huge zone. It's a big pit in the middle, which again, you can convince someone. to jump into later if you want to. So like, you're telling me there's
Starting point is 01:36:48 like, there's two droid guys here. There's two different droid salespeople. This guy can't hang out with Gita down the road. What are we doing? He's threatened by powerful women, unlike my exile. I wouldn't just say out loud,
Starting point is 01:37:04 a veteran of the war of the future is a fucking bar. It's a bar. It's bizarre. Then she follows it. It's such a weird way to follow up. Like, you know, maybe there's going to be lots of I think she, I think there's something happening with her, right?
Starting point is 01:37:18 Because if you go down her quest line, what she eventually says to you is like, you know, again, so he says, Undar is like, hey, can you get her to leave? And you'll be like, I guess if you pay me, I can go talk to her or whatever, and you go talk to her. And she's like, you know, Undar is a piece of shit, but he's right. There's not enough room for both of us. At the end of the day, you're going to have to pick which one of us to side with, war yet to come, right? And you can go back to him and be like, hey, she matched your discount, sorry. And he's like, well, guess what? I'm going to blacklist you to all the merchants here.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I'm going to tell everybody via the exchange not to sell to you. Damn. Okay, I don't think actually does anything, but he just say he wants to do that. And when you go back to her to talk to her, she's like, She's like, hey, listen, I know that you got here from not, I know that you're not from around here. I know you must have a ship. So maybe you know ways to build markets other places. Maybe you can get around the blockade, you know, and you're like,
Starting point is 01:38:13 well, wait, why? What's going on? And she's like, well, Dan Tween's still dealing with the effects of the war and the, you know, there's the blockade on, uh, on Dantuin, all of that stuff. And it's eventually like, listen, if you help me out to build these extra trade routes, I'm going to, I can give you some additional, uh, like stuff that's not available. You know, I can give you the secret stash, basically. And she has like this complete seeming knowledge about what's going on on each of the other planets in a way that. it makes me wonder and the way the stuff of the war yet to come that I'm like we always talk about like a Jedi instead of being Jedi they should have just been like and you know like
Starting point is 01:38:52 repairman or whatever or like mechanics I really get the vibe that Gita might be what if someone with the force was just doing retail just well you you can ask her about like when you're talking to her she she says to you you can go with Undar and do the short, easy path that leads to what you want right now or take the longer road where you may gain nothing at all. I might not be able to develop a strong market through these connections with other planets. And if you have enough, if you have enough wisdom, you can say, you're talking about the dark side and the light side. And she goes, am I? Perhaps. The universe is filled with such choices. Quick, easy rows.
Starting point is 01:39:43 to gratification and power and the slower roads with a broader view. The Jedi know about such choices. It is what they must confront wherever they go, and their choices echo through the force in ways others cannot perceive.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Cray doesn't say shit about this. Honestly, this is like, wow, what a speech to deliver on small business day. Small business Saturday. That's right. Yeah, you could go to Walmart and they'll have all the stuff you want and it'll be cheaper.
Starting point is 01:40:13 But if you support my shop and buy some of these things you didn't want and they cost too much, then they do Her prices are not good Blessings will be upon you, that's right But apparently she gets really good stuff later on if you if you if you after you solve kind of the Whatever's going on on Dantuin and Anderon you can keep coming back to her right and she'll She'll she'll she'll have a better inventory and you can get some good stuff from Yeah, and a lot of it is explicitly like Jedi. It's like crystals and robes and shit.
Starting point is 01:40:48 So I think she's connected. What if she's secretly, what if she's also a missing Jedi, a lost Jedi hiding? Right? I would love that. That would be really good. Also, I have now seen that there is, there is dialogue. When you're talking to one of the refugees, you can be like, hey, do you know who Zezkyel is? Do you know about this guy, this Jedi?
Starting point is 01:41:06 So you do know you're looking for Zezkyel here. So. Is this our proto-Luthan? Gita. Ooh, what happened to this Jedi? Oh, interesting. Oh, I just run a humble store. I can see it.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Just, I, I look, if you have interesting items, I will be happy to buy them. Yeah, mm-hmm. Who could say? I could imagine it. Wow. So the way I did it was, I was just like, eventually I went up to the dude who wants you to run her out of business. And I was like, go fuck yourself. And he was like, well, the exchange won't like this.
Starting point is 01:41:40 And then I was like, yeah, good. tell the exchange about me yeah tell them that i told you to get bent and describe me and tell them where they can find me um because that's the sort of goal that you have if you're light-sided at least right is like the game is taking keeping note of how much the exchange hates you and at a certain point they will call you for a meeting to be like hey fuck you we're going to get you and but you need to get them to hate you by doing quests basically so put your name out there My name is my name, is what Rob said. I had a really funny outcome because I was doing this dance of trying to keep my very precise dark side level.
Starting point is 01:42:29 By the time they called me up, they were like, you're confusing us. They're like, you're doing some things that are kind of in support of us and kind of not. So we want to talk to you because it's, we want to. to figure you figure you out basically very funny gill do you speaking a place where this can all come up the Pazok den and the can'tina stuff
Starting point is 01:42:53 so it's weird okay so the canteena yeah there was the lady being harassed did I have a glitch or did that woman disappear for all of you they was never I don't remember I don't think yeah I think you just kill those guys and then that's a lot of these felt like
Starting point is 01:43:11 unfinished like the final kind of moment of what would conclude this quest list was gone or maybe it was like you know you never know when one of God's angels is before you and she winked out of existence because I had just proven like that song would have God was one of us you know just a stranger being hit out in a bar by a grant you know that I was I was I was helping in that moment. It's like a what would you do situation. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 And so I did kung fu on him because I'd forgotten to equip my lightsaber again after my last fight with the handmaiden. So I did a spin kick and then he died, which was the punishment for being too pushy. There's guys who are like, don't talk. There's a lot of anti-human racism here. Don't get away from a smooth skin. Those are the guys that you can sink up on? Are there, are those different guys? Well, there's the Trondotians that you, that the little Bartok fucking dude in the corner is like, who-hoo, I'm just a little guy.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Right, right. I can go around and like, eavesdrop on people or I can spread rumors. And I was like, here's 2,000 credits to spread rumors that the, that I've got it in for the exchange. Damn. Yeah, I'm a big spender. You're a big spender. I saw a lot of armor. Nobody's, nobody's wearing shit.
Starting point is 01:44:40 because it's like everyone's decked out we're just heavy armor who's gonna wear that you're just a bullet magnet i finally did the thing where i like i'm probably not in this episode but in the next episode there's a bit where i'm in an area where there is a workbench and i finally went fuck it i'm spending an hour fixing all my shit building as many sick underlays and overlays and bonus you know emitters and lenses to get all my shit good and then i absolutely just like fucked up some stuff right after that and had to reload and redo it all once.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Oh no. It sucked. It sucked. It was very annoying. It took me two hours to do that. And I had to like keep track of like, first of all, you have to, I was on the Eben Hawk going from inside the Eben Hawk so that I could access everyone's clothes.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Because if you're outside the Ebenhawk, if people are wearing stuff, you can't see what they're wearing so you can't change it. So I'd go in. Inside the Ebenhawk, do a bunch of stuff, go outside, put clothes on, go back inside, upgrade it, go back outside, bring T3 out. Make sure that everyone had the right thing. It is so tedious. But now I have. Have you've done your stuff together. So good, good. So yeah, you can be a big spender or you could be a big crafter. That's the way this game was torn. Some of the stuff, it's like, I'm not getting anywhere near the crafting items I should get out of this. But if I sell it, it's worth thousands. Yeah. So I think I'll just sell it because like. There's enough merchants out there with good shit that I would rather have that money than I, then be able to craft upgrades. Yeah. But so, like, that's the bar.
Starting point is 01:46:23 And then the Pazak Den, there's like this implied quest line where it's like, can you work your way up the Pazok tables to meet the champ? Implied is doing, is right, actually. Because I haven't seen any evidence of the champ materializing, but you go in there. Okay. I got the champ. Me too. Did you get the Pazak? Because that's what I'm missing. Well, no, because like there was a Tweed like lady.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Uh-huh. And Atten was with me and he was like, why don't you let me take this one, partner. Cut to ladies lighting a cigarette and being like that was incredible Pazak. You win. I got, I got nothing left. And then I bought a bunch of cards from her. There was another dude where he's got goons waiting from outside. I was like, look, you don't throw this next game.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I will feed you those goons. And so cut to you win. I got dark side points for it, but he gives a shit. I was in a hurry. And sometimes the quick path is the correct one because you're there to do so much damn good for the refugees. That's what I'm here for, is to help the people. so I don't have time to beat this guy Fair and Square in a straight game of Pazok.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I didn't even have the opportunity to fight him because I was just like, there's some hot lady waiting for you outside. You got to get out there and he's like, you're like, maybe. The lady for me, I did, I think I told Attena the coolest jets and let me play Pazok.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I didn't even get the option. He just shoved me out of the way. Oh, wow. Maybe I have a wrong. And was like, we got a hot twilight. You got a hot twilight. who likes Pazak, this is my moment. Do not fucking ruin this for me, exile.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And I need to make it clear to the audience how little Rob is exaggerating about the cigarette in the mouth thing. She's not literally smoking, but she's like putting on the affect of like post-courtness. Like it is not even subtle a little bit. That was magnificent.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Thank you for such a stimulating game. Yeah, I, yeah. And to be clear. It's not. It's Pizak. This is like black stuff. Yeah. This is like.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Like, this is, like, this isn't chess. No. There's not a lot of... The erotic metaphor is, like, create themselves here. Yeah. And I think I beat the other guy. And so by the time I went outside and they were like, yeah, get that guy to come out here. Like, I literally couldn't interact with that quest at all.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Like, there's no one I could talk to to to do any of that stuff with. And then the champ does show up. And the champ is so funny. Oh, I forgot about the droid. The droid who I thought this was a secret. thought she was like, I thought she was luring people, because it feels like that you're the mark. She's
Starting point is 01:49:14 like, I'm a droid. I have a little behavioral defect. I just love playing Pazok, even though I'm terrible at it and I never win. But I can't stop because it's a compulsion. And the weird thing is
Starting point is 01:49:29 like there's a few ways you can sort of see what's going on with her, but I couldn't, I didn't have the repair skill or computer skill to figure what's going on. Did you bring someone with you? because I think Bayo Derr can just do it for you or T3 No, I didn't know That's all right at and
Starting point is 01:49:44 So we basically electrocuted this poor thing Her, the little like Weird thing that was on her chassis Just blew the fuck up And deleted its hard drive Well, and then I took her money And yeah If you fix it, she's like, oh
Starting point is 01:50:01 Pazac is stupid Why have I been playing Pazac? But I, my thing is I don't really get why I don't get who this works for because who is funding her or is she like an independently wealthy droid that got how does the droid just have bottomless funds because the way it's presented is that she is like right she's a total mark she sucks at Pazac but she can't stop playing it so you can just like rinse her for just tons of credits um
Starting point is 01:50:38 Although the maximum you can even bet against her is only 100 credits, which is kind of annoying. But really slows down my funding. But it was confusing because when you do investigate her, it's clear that somebody has put in this protocol into her to have this compulsion. And it sounds like she's been put there by the exchange to – so I don't know if it. It was like... Maybe that's what it is. Maybe, right? Maybe it's like, her, the, because the racing droid has one of these, too, has a little
Starting point is 01:51:16 device under his arm that you can notice. And the guy on the docks, he's the one tracking these signals. Maybe the exchange just has a bunch of listening devices planted everywhere, and they're being really subtle about the storytelling for once, where they're not like, and at the end, there's a big confrontation with the exchange spy master who says, you found all five of my listening devices, you know? And it's just like, yeah, there's listening devices everywhere. It's just weird.
Starting point is 01:51:42 That makes a lot more sense. That, like, that's why you would want somebody that can just stick around in a, they're funding hard to basically just be, yeah, to be a listening device for the bar to over here. And then she tracks play because she's, like, bad. And so gamblers, like, converge. But really weird for this game not to hit you over the head with it if that's what it is. Yeah, did anyone pass any of those module checks?
Starting point is 01:52:05 Because I felt like I, I, I feel. failed both of them. So I was like, I feel like I'm not, like I've hit a dead end on a quest on something. So I've done that. And what it says is there's a transmit. It's the thing I was just kind of pointing at, right? Where inside the casing, there's a data recorder and a high-powered burst transmitter. This is obviously a passive information gathering device. So she's a listening device. That's for sure. She has a listening device attached to her, basically. It's sending burst transmissions. And there's no way to link that back to Guy Hoomst is listening and disappears you cannot let that you cannot connect that to that guy and remember also uh again
Starting point is 01:52:42 yeah the racing device had a racing droid had one and the other guy was looking for something in the race zone none of that stuff literally connects into like a big quest about listing devices or anything yeah so i was very confused i have all those stats to do all that stuff and i was like did i make a bad option somewhere but i'm looking at the strategy guide i don't see anything that suggests they actually connect so just weird who's the champ No champ came out for me. Where's the champ show up? He's a little guy.
Starting point is 01:53:10 He's just a little guy. He's a little dude? He's another one of the same species of the little dude. And first of all, little lady outside by the- By-the-old lady outside. You're right. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. But, yeah, the champ is the champ is that guy. He comes up to you and he's like, I'm the champ.
Starting point is 01:53:35 let's play bazok and you can be like you're the champ and he's like yeah i'm the champ god he'd be like so you always win looming over him like the angel of the laugh it's so funny you'd be like so you always win and he's like yeah i always win and you're like why do you play pizzok then he's like because i always win and you can be like well is it even fun if you always win jeez this line and he's like little prince literally he's like literally rob yeah wait you're right how about how about I lose
Starting point is 01:54:06 and then next time I play I'll win and it'll be more fun and also here's a golden pizoc card Oh my god that card is so good it's the best card in the game
Starting point is 01:54:16 y'all have to get this card from him I have it I have it all right so the Pizak card that you get from him it's called the golden card it's plus one minus one and it wins ties so no
Starting point is 01:54:29 What the fuck? It's so good. It's the perfect card. Wait, how does it win tizer? Does it have to be played or is it just if it's in your hand? You play it. When you play it, yeah, you have to play it, right? So if they have 20 and you have 19, you can play it to hit 20 and win the match.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Okay. Or if you hit 21, you go down one. Or if they're at 17 and they stand and you're at 16, you can play it to go up to 17 and win. Wow. Incredible. It's really good. That's going in my side back. Yeah, dude, I'd be the champ too.
Starting point is 01:54:59 if I had that card, you know? But yeah, I got the special Charmander, you know? Like, what, come on. My side deck is ridiculous. The one of one. Oh, yeah, man. You started getting some wild Pazok cards in this game. They, just like the equipment.
Starting point is 01:55:15 The, like, plus five dexterity gloves, it's that but for Pizak. There's so many, like, truly absurd. Oh, also an important Pazac thing someone told me on the let's play description, or let's play comments. If you can play nine cards, I'd forgotten this. If you can play nine cards without going over 20, you win. So if you're at eight cards, that's a blackjack rule too, right? I think that that's right.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah. So if you're at eight cards and you're at like 13 somehow, fuck it. Play another card. Even play a card from your hand. Play a plus one from your hand. Once you fill the grid, you've won. Oh, I see, yes, he, so there are times when you could play something that wouldn't give you a high number, but still fill out the grid and it's worth it.
Starting point is 01:55:53 So. Are there any other side things that? Oh, did you all run into the guy who's like, that's my ship? Mm-hmm. oh yeah oh yeah so this is so yeah this is a goofy one and it's just got a kind of funny payoff but dude's like that's the ebb and hawk that's my ship and it's like one i stole it from a mobster before destroying his like space station fair and square yeah uh so like i'm sorry if it was your ship before that but i don't care but it must have been his ship before cotor one right
Starting point is 01:56:27 Davick, the Kang must have stolen it from him. But it's like, but I'm totally Cotor 2. Pell, like, if you couldn't keep what was yours, then it was ever really yours. Like, sorry, the Evan Hawk is for alphas, not, not betas. And, but I was like, is this game actually going to let me just be like, fine, bro, enjoy the ship. And I was like, fine, bro, enjoy the ship. And he's like, cool, I'm going to go get my ship.
Starting point is 01:56:56 and he marches off there is like what the fuck are you doing that's our ship what are we supposed to do we need the ship and the exile has a good response that ship is a bounty hunter magnet that ship is got like
Starting point is 01:57:13 he'll get 10 feet in it and something bad is going to happen to him so maybe we're better off without it and then some goofy shit happens he goes back to the ship but on his way back, remember, you parked in a bad spot that belonged to a different gang. And they were like, that's your ship. He was like, damn right it is. Uh, and they like just, fom, cudgel, like straight.
Starting point is 01:57:39 All right, we'll kick your ass. Then cut to Crea, hang in with Visas aboard the ship. And Vsas is like, uh, there's some dudes trying to break in. And Crea's like, that's interesting. and Vista's like, we better, these people try to get in, we better get ready. And Crea Vulcan nerve pinches are basically, and it's like your first instinct is not the most productive one right now. We need to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 01:58:09 And then they're gassed and they fall asleep. So for me, it wasn't Vsos. It was handmade in that Crea knocked out. I wonder, it was also for me. And I'm wondering, did I have Vsos out with me?
Starting point is 01:58:25 at the time. Why does you have both your wives out with you? I had Crea with me, so I only had handmade them. Oh, interesting. She was like fussing with the controls in the cockpit. And then just gets gassed?
Starting point is 01:58:36 Yeah. Huh. Okay. Interesting. It's more chaotic with Crea being like, no, let's let the ship get captured. Yeah, I think it's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:48 Oh, my God, this fight. You fight through waves of these fucking red eclipse dudes. And then you board the ship. There's so many. Oh, right. I thought you were talking about on the ship. No, just getting up the ramp.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Yeah, just getting up the ramp. Like walking through the parking garage is just a, it's double dragon. Yeah. It's bonkers. It is. You get in the ship, it's like Omaha Beach and saving private riot. It's so stupid. And it's just gunfire from every direction.
Starting point is 01:59:20 They're using their stun weapons. So characters are getting just like stun locked. from the beginning. So I had to reload, juice up before stepping onto the ship. And then it is just a fucking nightmare. It's kind of fun, though. It's real chaos.
Starting point is 01:59:40 This game does not feel, fighting never really feels super chaotic in this game because it's like 3V3 or 3V4 all the time. The geometry of the Ebenhock, it's like you're getting weird crossfires, people are going up side alleys, like engaging. It's, it is bananas. And I'm like, Bill Durr, don't go a lot.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Like, I can't have you trying to fight four guys at once. We have to, like, team up on a guy. Like, that's how we do. Yes, because characters keep trying to solo everything. Yes. Could you please get the fuck back here? Yeah. But, yeah, so it was, it was a complete bloodbath.
Starting point is 02:00:10 It was cool, though. Like, all sorts of force powers happening. It was, it was a good fight. I lucked out somehow. I, like, I wound up really in a bad place. I was really low on, I think, force powers. So I couldn't heal anymore. But I, like, stumbled into the final little, like, the communications room towards the front of the Ebenhawk, and, like, the main guy was there.
Starting point is 02:00:31 And I think I just killed him. And it, like, despawned everybody in the went into the cutscene. And after I fought a bunch of other guys. Like, it wasn't like, I was, like, tooth and nail to get there. And then, like, it finally ended. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as you get within line of sight of the leader of the crimson guys.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Yeah. Uh, they, it ends, or the eclipse, sorry, not Cribs and Dawn. Right. Different. That's something else. Yeah. They'll, it'll like stop the, the fight immediately. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Okay. Yeah. So if you want to maximize XP, you want to get some, some force lightning, throw it around the corner to get the other guys in the room. Just like a couple, you know, plus 90 plus 100 XP before you wrap it all up. Mm-hmm. I'd recommend it. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Also, I was like, bow before the king, man. And he was like, you know, you did kick our asses. So I guess, yes. And I was like, cool, no more slaving. And he's like, oh, kind of a deal breaker.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Slaving is really kind of our whole cultural identity. So, and I was like, you really need to stop the slaving. And they were like, no, I guess. we don't have anything. And then we just beat his ass. Because, like, because also when that cuts him triggers,
Starting point is 02:01:56 you get fully replenished on health and force points. Oh. Interesting. Yeah, no matter how depleted you are, he faces you a full meter. So I was at a tricky situation in this conversation because I had just done something really good that bumped me back up to Lightside.
Starting point is 02:02:17 So I had just done good. needs. Natalie, just an hour ago, you were like, hour and 30 minutes ago, you were like, this game has so much slaving in it. There's so many slaves and people who take slaves. What's up with that? It's true. And so when he, when they told me what, what, you know, I, I was, I'm in a delicate situation here where I really need to be, I really need to be. Wow, New York Toydharian just Replace Natalie So I was in a A bit of a delicate situation
Starting point is 02:02:51 You know what I'm saying I mean what am I gonna do It's like I'm gonna If I didn't take those slaves I'd have been naked Did you get dark side points for this Because I'm looking at the strategy guide And I don't see any
Starting point is 02:03:02 Oh You just You just took a shot in the dark Hoping it would be dark It's not even like Really you just You say to him like I don't really care about the slavery
Starting point is 02:03:14 But could you just go It's not that dramatic, is it? That's not true. The line is. That's not what I said. What did you say? I said, uh, I said, I have nothing against slavers. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:32 You can conduct your business, but you will answer to me. So in my mind, here's my retcon. Here's my retcon. Yeah. Better regulating that market. Yes, I'm going to make sure that there's, like, better, like, provisions. Everyone's getting health care. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:03:54 I'm just, I'm going to unionize this situation in some way. How it works? I don't know. So, you know, Kamakht comes back to me, the leader of the red eclips here, and says, all right, I guess, I mean, if the alternative is death, I would be a fool to refuse. So, you are the stronger. I pledge myself to your service. We all pledge yourself to your service.
Starting point is 02:04:19 And by the way, when you need milestone updates, no, just updates about how the, yeah, just progress reports about how things are coming. Are we hitting our KPI's? Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, there's a guy at the bar and Narshada. You can go talk to him to keep track of our activities. And so you can go chat to the guy at the bar
Starting point is 02:04:43 and what do you know things are going pretty well and for every you know time you talk to him he'll give you a hundred credits times your character level so you know
Starting point is 02:04:57 every time you level up you get another hundred credits I'm gonna go talk to that guy for your character level how often do you get to talk to him about like you do this once every level up that's wild
Starting point is 02:05:11 wait does he start At the level that, like, do you get like $38,000 or whatever? I have to, I have to go talk to him. I haven't, I haven't gone and talked to him yet. I've been busy helping people. She was a woman of her time. We can't, we can't judge Natalie. Like, this was a long time ago, a galaxy far, far away.
Starting point is 02:05:30 The problem was, the actual problem was, I had to figure out a way to get dark-sighted, which I guess I didn't get the points here, because I'm looking at the- Yeah, the guy that literally says, surprisingly, This doesn't move you closer to the dark side of the force. So I guess what are we complaining about? Objectivism, baby. Yeah. Looks like a market transaction to me, as we all know, those are never immoral.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I, you know, this game should give you better options for when you could be darksided instead of make, allowing me. But anyway, they all health care and we're being, like, matched with good gigs. Yeah. That's good. They're not even working. They're just chilling at home, actually. Okay, well, speaking of working, did anybody, so nobody sent the handmaid to dance for Voga? I guess Natalie Nallie, you went to dance for Vogue.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Yeah. I danced. I took that on myself as a leader. I would have. I tried to put the dancer's gear on afterwards. You can't put that on, buddy. It's still in my inventory. Just like these male cheerleaders in the NFL, like Voga is out there being like, this is disgusting. Like, this is a fallen culture we have here.
Starting point is 02:06:42 I think Voga would like it if they, if they gave it a chance. You know what's weird? I think so. Vogue is like, ugh, mammals. Like, he, that's the weird thing. They're like, Voga likes, like, younger dancers. But Vogue is actually, like, I need to have dancers, but I actually like my dogs. But I actually don't like mammals.
Starting point is 02:07:03 He falls asleep. So, like, he, he falls asleep. That's the thing. He doesn't even like the, the dancers are just as lullabies. It's his. Well, maybe that's where the... You know what? Hey, if he can't sleep unless there's a dancer,
Starting point is 02:07:17 this actually makes a lot of... This is sleeping. A sleep aid? Absolutely. You know, if you don't feel for him now. It's like staring into a candle for your hypnosis. Right. No, I don't feel for him so much that I won't rob him blind.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Yeah, 100%. So you have to go to... How do you poison the dogs? Because I found the water dish. You got to get the Juma juice. Where's the Juma juice? Oh, from the bar, I bet. In the bar.
Starting point is 02:07:41 In the bar. The bar that I've like fucking leveled? I believe so. Yes. Shit. I believe it's from the Jack Jack Tar and not from, but you have to, the thing is, I think you probably should just go back there. I don't think it's...
Starting point is 02:07:53 Is the Jack Jack Char still open now? No, wait. There's a pile of dead gand in it? Maybe it is just from the dude in the canteen. Maybe you can get the Jumab Juice from that guy, the regular entertainment promenade. Because Atten orders Jumba Juice from him. But when I talk to him... Oh, then it is there.
Starting point is 02:08:10 It is there. But when I talked to him, he was just love. Like, hey, man, I want to have a racist conversation because not a lot of people like you and me here. So let me tell you about some information for you and me, buddy. I forgot about that. The main, like the regular entertainment promenade can'tina, when you go up to the bartender, he's like, hey, another human, huh? You and me. It's you and me against these freaks out here, isn't it?
Starting point is 02:08:34 Whoa. Right, man. I mean, okay. Fuck you, dude. No, hang on. The humans of the oppressed my human. I see so actually this is just resistance it is the bartender and the entertainment promenade that is the guy you can you can talk to once you I think you have to already oh you know what it is you have to over here that's right it's you have to overhear the conversation between the two guys in the flop house flop house number one um you got a stealth stealth into their room and they'll be like vulga's got a crazy horde we need to to get in there and get his treasure.
Starting point is 02:09:14 If we get some Juma juice, we can feed it to his dogs. And I hear he likes dancing. I don't think he had stuff that was like that good for me because it's all random. And I was like, I don't really worth all that. I hope his dogs are okay. But yeah, you can still do it. This isn't gone by any means. A handful of other things there.
Starting point is 02:09:31 Did you all, I mean, as a reminder, you can like summon your, your NPCs from most, maybe just from the landing pad. There's one that you can't summon people from for sure. I think it's the refugee quarter. You can't summon your rest of your companions in, like, you can't swap them out. Also the entertainment you have to. Right. So it's the docks.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Can you do it at the docks? Or can you only do it in the landing? I think you can only do it in the landing now because I had to keep leaving. I was able to do it in the docks. Because of the Mandalorians. You find the Mandalorians. Like, I was, I'm still using strategy wiki and I wasn't reading it really closely because I wanted to be surprised. But I was like scrolling through the entire pages and seeing.
Starting point is 02:10:11 what names I saw pop out. Right. Or area. Yeah, you had to see like, who could I get influenced with here? So I was like, okay, I'm going to take Attencray to the main zone. I'm going to the docks with Mandelor and Crea. And then when I go to the refugee zone, I'm probably going to have like Atten and like the handmaid maybe.
Starting point is 02:10:29 So I had, I went with Atten because he had to unlock all the fucking doors. And then I was like, okay, I need the Mandelor to come back. And I literally brought him in. I hit the mandolore drawer, the warehouse, just opened up the container with the Mandalorians in it. I mean, that's what it feels like, literally what happens. And they chopped it up.
Starting point is 02:10:54 I did not even have like any, like nothing I could say in that conversation. They just kind of, well, no, there was one thing because like, I mean, the interaction kind of hinges on you because you walk into this room and there's just some Mandalorian chilling. And they're like, what are you doing here? And then because Candorous is there, he's like, well, I'm the mandolore. And I don't think that you guys should just be like hanging out in warehouses anymore. All the mandolars should go to Duxon.
Starting point is 02:11:21 I'm the new mandolore. Come fuck with me. Like, it should be cool or whatever. And the other guys are like, fuck you, man. Like, we never said there was another mandolore after the war. And Candorous is like, yeah, that's a mistake. That's why I'm mandolore. So they go to you and they're like, well, I don't know who the fuck this guy is.
Starting point is 02:11:40 what are you doing with him? And you can be like, well, I'm a Jedi and I'm walking around with him. Like, I fuck with him and I'm a Jedi. And they're like, oh, a Jedi fucks with him. I guess he is the Mandalore. Let's go to Duxin. And then when you reload the area, they're just not there. The thing that's weird is, the literal thing that they say is, and listen, the last time
Starting point is 02:12:03 that there was a Mandelor who is traveling with non-mandelorians, it was fucking ex-Arcoon. So like, no, dude. And then you're like, well, I'm not ex-Arcun. I'm a Jedi. It's one of the things you can say. Or you say, I'm a Jedi and sworn to Mandelaar's service. Why wouldn't they be like, yeah, we just said it went bad last time? No, we're not going to cite, no.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Whatever, it's fine. They love Mandelaar. Have you considered I'm good? I'm good. I have, you know what? You'll make a good point. I would simply not fall to the dark side. That's right.
Starting point is 02:12:34 And I guess like this is it. This is the best way to get Canderus or Mandelor influence. Who, by the way, on the ship, so after you have to liberate the ship, he was like, hey, man, can I talk to you real quick? Ooh, okay. He was like, so, we're allies for now. Oh, right. But I'm putting together the band, the Mandalorian War Band. And once I'm done, we're kind of going to go back to ransacking the Republic.
Starting point is 02:13:01 So if that's going to be a problem for you, it'll be a problem between us at some point, but maybe we can hang until then. And who knows? Maybe you can talk me out of sacking the Republic. Can I go sack something else? That's right. Just putting that out there. He's cool. He's so level-headed. And, you know, fair, and he's up front, and he's honest.
Starting point is 02:13:23 And he's just. And he misses Revin, who left him alone at the edge of the galaxy or whatever. Yeah, well, he's rebuilding his life. Men would rather reunify their broken clans and ransack the Republic. Then go to therapy. Well, I just love, like, I don't know that we talked about it last time, but I love, like, you, the only interaction I have with him right now is just like, hey, what do you think of the Republic? And he's like, can you honestly tell me that the Republic is better than it was before the Mandalorian War? No, things still fucking suck.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Like, what if you just gave us a chance? Like, what if we just killed a bunch of people and took over a bunch of planets and, like, ruled the galaxy? with an iron fist like just give me a shot man like it can't be worse that it is right now and I'm like you know what buddy you're making some points right now okay I mean I'm just I'm building them all up to get their XP later down the line I see right you're gonna cash in on that you can you can you can you can collect as many Mandalorians as you want they're gonna be XP to me eventually you've spoken like a true disciple of Crea but the thing is also like candorous hears that and he's just like pitching a tent
Starting point is 02:14:43 he's like yes I knew you were like Revin yeah 100% he loves it he loves it he misses Revin he misses war he misses every that's the thing that I like I kind of like about it is like in my heart of hearts I don't know that he cares about being Mandalor he just wishes the Mandalorians were not so like in the ditch he 100% has the feeling of like he took this job because nobody else that's right can be trusted with it yes he doesn't want it yeah exactly all he's I mean look at how he preferred to dress before he started wearing the shit that's right like this dude wanted to be out in muscle shirts yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:15:21 that's what he used to wear yeah that's how he wanted to be rolling yeah well he he hits rock bottom in the first game like the the turnaround him being like I've gotten my my quest for revenge and it fucking sucked I have to go back home. Well, and that's why I really love that scene that we talked about last time with T3 and and, or T3 showing the recording of Mandelor and and, or Candorous and, and, and Revin because it's just like, he thought he kind of had a new plan and then instead it's this. And I mean, the thing we've been talking about now for a while is like, is it, did Revin leave him behind here because he didn't think he could hang with wherever he was going? Or did he leave him behind here so he could rebuild the Mandalorians? And if so, for why?
Starting point is 02:16:13 You know? Because in our knowledge of Star Wars, without a Cotor 3, where we learned what Revan was going off to go do and the, you know, I guess maybe the old Republic stuff can tie into this. I don't remember how the Mandalorians show up in that. But what it feels like is we need the Mandalorians to still exist because in 3,000 years or whatever, we're going to need someone to train the clones to fight the fucking battle droids or whatever.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Like that's what the Mandalorians turn out to be. Yeah, I know. But like, is it like, is it like in sight or is it like investing in a forever war? Is it like let's keep the Mandalians going? Right. Because then it continues to create an adversary. And as long as there's an adversary. Right.
Starting point is 02:17:01 the republic will depend on us for power or for the Jedi for protection yeah right the Jedi for protection and so as long as that's the case we'll have you know yeah political power political swing that's right they need each other
Starting point is 02:17:19 yeah and the NBA needs them both yeah right they need their rivalry better when they're good better when they're good like they say well and that's the thing is again we don't you know where is Revin And what is Revanol finding something in the dark, something scary in the dark? Easy to imagine this being himself. Wow.
Starting point is 02:17:38 So true. Easy to imagine it being, we need the Mandalorians ready to be a bulwark against something big coming. You know? But I'm not teasing anything. This is me being like, I think that's what they were trying to do here. And I don't know that it ever really goes anywhere. It doesn't, I don't think it goes anywhere in this game, certainly. I don't remember about Old Republic, but maybe it does.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Well, we'll just have to try to cover an M. on a podcast. Oh, my God. Revin sitting there being, I need to warn the Republic about the Yu-Jan Vong. I mean, that's what it feels like, Ron? And then, like, remembering the Bastille is back there, or,
Starting point is 02:18:13 or. Okay, I'm looking at Natalie. I mean, they haven't attacked for, like, they've never attacked us. Like, maybe it'll be fine. Yeah, exactly. Here's the list that you've been. Don't worry them.
Starting point is 02:18:25 T. N. Tubbs, droid memory corps, we talked about. Recruited Mandalorians, droid racer, pylon quest, reunited husband and wife, we don't need to talk about that. Bith scientists, that's the guy who's tracking the weird devices signals. Slave daughter, that's right. Slave daughter, you save a slave daughter from the exchange in the refugee quarter.
Starting point is 02:18:44 Trade rivals, we talked about it. You did not. Did you side with the exchange in? No, I read what you could do with this. Because my goal with the whole refugee sector was I was going to pin the Sorocco. and the exchange against each other. That's what I did. To free everyone.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Yeah, I did that. But what ended up happening is I accidentally did too many things, too many evil things before then. And then by the time I got to the Sorocco, they were like, you are not fucking with us. You are fucking with the exchange. And I was like, no, I promise you guys. I actually throw with you guys. I see. Yes, I was like trying to play.
Starting point is 02:19:30 everyone against each other and then I had to kill everyone there and then by the time I went to the exchange I was like okay well surely I can still fuck over the exchange by the time I get there and and unfortunately when I talked to the girl's mom whose daughter was in in jail I was like my balance is really tricky right now I really have to think about you know from what you have our slave operation going you get paid a hundred credits times you're level We needed a capital injection. And I just thought, like, maybe it would be better if they were back together. Like, maybe it would be better if the market.
Starting point is 02:20:10 Wait, what? Wait, you know what? So, wait, you reunited a family. Yes, that's exactly what I did. By the way, the wife never made it home. You wanted someone to go dark-sighted. You all wanted it. You wanted someone.
Starting point is 02:20:29 I need to do what you're talking about. I can't, yeah, I mean, I appreciate your perspective. I love it. Thank you. I love it. I love it. So. Undoing some of the greatest harms of human trafficking.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Like Natalie's out there bringing people back together. A hundred percent. Did you interact with the daughter at all? Or just that decision making happened? No. Well, basically when I, so the first thing I did is I went up to the exchange. area and I robbed them silly with uh oh yeah you can sneak around there yeah yeah I stole all of their shit and then I saw the girl in the room um but I didn't talk to her because I wanted to
Starting point is 02:21:15 make sure that I didn't lock myself out of anything and then I went back and talk to the mom and I was like you should go go with her and then when I came back up she was gone and then I was like oh surely I'll be able to go talk to the exchange leader the corn guy and and you know be like actually fuck you I'm going to kill you and everyone will be fine but he really liked the fact that I I reunited this family so wow I've got like that yeah he he was like that's so awesome that you that you brought her mom over here and I was like you know I just care about them hanging out and uh and then i wasn't able to to to you know kill him they just like you too much you couldn't go agro on these folks correct that's so funny that's really funny
Starting point is 02:22:15 i sent the sorocco after them to be like okay cool like they'll they'll fight it out or whatever and then mostly like the sorocco just got got and then i just had to go clean up and i'm just killing everyone here it was a mess when you send those Siroko after them, you arrive at the exchange place and there's like four guys on the floor, but it's still filled with people that you have to kill. They got washed. And I think I locked myself out of the good ending to this area because there's like the, there's a guy who like will give, it's like the arch point for a lot of these quests or will
Starting point is 02:22:51 at least guide you to them. And you can keep catching, touching in with him and being like, hey, what do you need to help with because he's one who explains like oh we used to live here but this one gang is pushing us out and then the exchange won't let us leave and we're all stuck at this really small place and we all could have gotten sick and like it's all fucked up um so i accidentally agroed the sorocco people at some point but i walked through their base enough that like when i got to the boss and i had enough persuade i was able to be like well just why don't you just go after the exchange. And then when I went to the exchange, I killed everybody there. And then every time I
Starting point is 02:23:30 go back and talk to that guy, he's like, yeah, everything's really good. You helped everybody out. But the Soroko, like, keeps, like, if you could let us go into their area, that would be really good. But I go through their area. There's no more people left. I can't even find the guy to talk to him. I think that sounds like it bugged down a little bit or you hit a weird branch. That's fine. I think you're doing all right. Yeah. I think we'll manage it. What can you do? They just have to walk in there to figure out that they can live in there. There's no one there. Wow. A great, a great parable about true freedom. They're too afraid. If only they weren't afraid, they wouldn't be, they wouldn't be so put out to begin with. Kray was right. It's true.
Starting point is 02:24:15 Cray was right. Wow. It's true. They should just walk over there. They ain't shit. All right. Exchangeerser's Soroko. Done. Plague guy. Done. Bach champ, done, dance for Voga, done. There's one thing I don't see here. Did anybody go into the Jack Jektar early? I did. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:32 Tell me about your experience. They just like you walk around. And I don't, like, Craya can't get poisoned, apparently. And me and I- Yeah, she's high enough. She has some sort of poison immunity thing. I mean, shout-outs to her. Like an ability you have it.
Starting point is 02:24:46 I have a Crea theory about that, and I don't really know. I don't know. What is it? Wait, what is it? Did you guys get the cutscene with her and the other two Sith guys? Can we finally talk about this? Natalie and I haven't died. I haven't gotten.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Wait, which one? The one that we have been waiting to talk about for three episodes. When you ask her if she's a Jedi or a Sith and you're like, wait, can I really talk about this? And then she's like, yeah, okay. And then a cutscene just starts happening and it cuts to a fucking clock. Rob, I think we, is it time? No, we can wait until next time.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Can we wait? We can wait. Oh, wait. Rob, you have to get this cutscene. you have to be you have to well maybe you don't have to maybe you'll never get it and then you'll be in suspense for the rest of the game if you haven't gotten it by next time we should talk about it because i feel like we should definitely talk about it before going to dantuan yes i don't know why but i just have that feeling it's a good idea this is a pre a pre a pre dantuan conversation i think that's right and alia and you know i got that fucking cut scene like after telos or something i got it so i've like had that info for a minute. Anyway. Very interesting.
Starting point is 02:25:54 So we can't talk about your theory. Right. Well, so the thing is is that when you go in there, she can't get poison. Sorry, Rob. I'm sorry for shaming you. We're not trying to shame you.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Rob looks so sad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But like, the conversations on the Ebenhawk are so circular. I know. Is this funnel open now? You might just not have,
Starting point is 02:26:15 yeah, you might be available for it. You just haven't gone back and re-hit. Are you a Jedi or you a Sith? Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, because I, the dialogue choices with her are so funny because like, you will get the like, there's so many, there's so many options there that will just be a blank wall for her when you ask, like, it's, the fascinating thing for me right now is that she's talked about the Jedi set stuff, but when I ask her about Revin, I still don't have enough influence and I'm like, why is that what you're holding back? Oh, get ready for that. There is tea. There is tea there.
Starting point is 02:26:51 There is tea there. Kray is an all-timer. Okay. So anyway, you walk into this poison bar, but like, it didn't matter. Everyone warned you about for like an hour. Yeah. We're like, well, you can't go into the jacketachar. You'll die on the spot.
Starting point is 02:27:05 Right. And like, you kind of just walk in. I walked around. I didn't really, I had like, regenerative health or like it just wasn't hurting me enough or Kraya was just in the back, like doing force heel over and over again. And I would just be having these conversations with people and in the middle of the conversation and would be like ooh
Starting point is 02:27:23 that's just getting voiced it's just really bizarre it's really funny this is just this is just what like 2000's campus hookah culture was that's right
Starting point is 02:27:37 yep you're at the hookah spot and someone is not hanging and it's Atten it's Atten Rand we're gonna tell him to go home you know what I mean like you just he can hang
Starting point is 02:27:47 let him hang out there's like a couple of tiny things in here, right? You can talk to the weekway captain to be like, hey, your dudes who are in the drawer back in the docks. This is a group of weakway pirates who if you go get the captain to be like, I guess this is probably like a predecessor to Hondo in a way, right? It's another weakway pirate captain. You've got to be like,
Starting point is 02:28:11 Hondo, go back to your crew, and he's like, I don't want to. And you can be like, dude, they're going to leave you here. And he'll be like, okay. And then you get 1,500 XP or whatever. And there's like a better ending for this quest that I didn't realize. And I'm upset that I didn't. Yeah, there's a guy, the guy in the refugee place. Oh, you can give him the job.
Starting point is 02:28:35 Yeah, who's just like, I'm a pilot and I'm looking for work. So if you know if there's work out there, you can tell him to talk to them. And then the guy will just be getting high. I figured. You know what? That's me being racist. I was like this weekway crew want their weekway captain back and they're not going to want this guy who's like, where's my wife and kid?
Starting point is 02:29:03 That's a different guy. The wife's a guy is a different guy. This is another guy who's like I used to. Every guy can only be one type of guy. You can't have a wife and flight and pilot guy. You're either a wife guy or you're a pilot guy. You got one issue. Well, the other thing with the pilot.
Starting point is 02:29:19 guy that confuses me and this is another quest we didn't talk about it but there's a lady who walks up to you
Starting point is 02:29:24 and is like oh my god you're the guy who said that you'd get me off planet great and you either
Starting point is 02:29:29 have the option to be like I'm not that guy but because I am trying to farm those points I was like yeah
Starting point is 02:29:35 yeah that's $500 thank you talk to you later um she gets got so she's basically like someone
Starting point is 02:29:42 told her hey if you give me 500 bucks I'll get you connected to a pilot and get you out of here and you could be like oh yeah I think that guy just took your money
Starting point is 02:29:54 which is very sad or I guess you could rob her is that what you did? Yeah that's what I did too and you can go back to her and be like she'll be like did you get the people are we all set yet and you can just be like I don't know who you are and then she curses you out but I haven't I haven't closed that quest yet
Starting point is 02:30:14 because I thought that I could find somebody for her but I guess not I think You still can. I think you can now. I think after you finish the request stuff. Oh. Yeah. I see.
Starting point is 02:30:27 Oh, well, no. I mean, if you've taken the money and you haven't and she didn't call you a liar yet, there is a person you can talk to in the next section that we'll be playing that I think will help her. Oh, interesting. That makes sense. Did you all find the guy in the Jack Jack Tar with the unique name? You talk to the gann?
Starting point is 02:30:51 Yeah, Kevin. Oh. Yeah, Kevin. That's his name, right? It's like, Kvin? Wait, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's something else.
Starting point is 02:31:03 There's a guy in the refugee quarter whose name is Kevin. Kevin, you're right. I just wrote down as a funny, as a funny Star Wars name. What's the Gand guy's name? He is a cool name. So there's a group of Gand who are like the little insect guys who have. of gas masks on and they're just like really all over one of the rooms and there's a guy who's in another room being like hey i heard that there's like a super sick badass gand nearby
Starting point is 02:31:32 but the gand don't really do names but i know he has a name i need to know what his name is and uh you can you can talk around the gand and the gand all say the same thing which is like the gand are from gand on the outer rim please forgive the gand but the gand do not like to discuss the Gant, but one of them will be like, I don't like to discuss the Gant. And you could be like, aha, you said, I don't like to discuss the Gand. Are you the guy who has like individuality because you've earned it? And he's like, yeah, you got me. I'm a sick ass a warrior who earned individuality because I earned it. And you're like, well, what's your name? And he can tell you his name. And you could be like, you know, someone asked me to find out your name. He's like,
Starting point is 02:32:10 listen, don't tell anybody my name. And you go back to the guy who asked you for his name. And you can be like, his name is blah, blah, blah. But you can also go back to him and be like, yeah I found it his name but he told me not to tell anybody sorry and I'll be like damn okay that's a shame I'll try to find it some other way thanks which is like a really funny or you can just tell him a totally different name yeah that guy's name was Bill the guy's name is Kevin that's what I did yeah yeah well yeah I yeah I mean the first thing that guy says to you is like hey this is my name but don't tell anybody and I was like okay fuck fuck that other guy Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:47 He don't need to know shit Why is that guy Need to know anything And yeah Otherwise you just kind of walk around In the poison gas And it's not a big deal Yeah people are like
Starting point is 02:32:55 You're You're You're Like Offending us by your presence And I'm like All right man I'm sorry
Starting point is 02:33:03 You're not supposed to be here Okay Get for the poison I feel like What am I doing Like intruding on their space Like this is like
Starting point is 02:33:13 It's clearly not like why am I why am I here I I'm just going to come steal all the chemicals for all the chemical canisters I mean I am going to do that I am going to do that I did say this before I said this to you all privately but if you're playing along slow with us and like at the same rate that we are playing it is time to make as many health items as you possibly can and also get ready to put the game on easy
Starting point is 02:33:38 and also get ready to use mines I did not use enough minds in a section coming up I was thinking about the edit of the the LP edit and being like, I'm gonna get to that point where I really badly needed to use. There's a point where I'm like, I don't need these minds. I never use mines.
Starting point is 02:33:52 Why would I ever use mines? And like the section of the game that we're about to play is a big good time to use mines section. So get ready to do those. Especially if you are light-sided. I think if you're dark-sided that section might be a little easier.
Starting point is 02:34:05 Oh, no, it's gonna be another Moloch fight. It is, M-Lock. It is, sort of. Not really. I mean, there's one part that is literally, Malik.
Starting point is 02:34:14 It's fine. Running, just literally sprinting away, dropping them like Johnny Appleseed. There's a fight where there are already some minds for you that are going to be actually really useful. And then there's a sequence of fighting guys in hallways over and over and over again. Natalie, I know you've gotten through here. Though I guess you might be using a character I don't have. I'm not sure. And I think that probably goes differently for that character than the character I have as the light side guy.
Starting point is 02:34:41 And so, but maybe not. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it wasn't too bad for me. Wait, there's a light side, dark side? Oh, look at me, I've got a force storm. There's one character you get up your light side here, and there's one character you get it for your dark side here. Oh.
Starting point is 02:34:56 You get a different companion from Narshad, depending. And we can talk about them because we've met them. And that's kind of where we should set them up, right? So we already talked about one of them. The fiery bounty hunter with red hair and her tits out, Mira. And as you're, as you're, as you're, as you're walking around. Oh, is a woman not a lot of thermo-regulate? I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 02:35:20 Yeah, she only gets her superpowers if she shows skin to the sun, I forgot. Right. Mm-hmm. She's kind of stalking you as you're like going around, uh, uh, uh, Narshada. She checks in with people. She's watching you. Um, and then, and then at some point, uh, she's watching you. After the team meeting, right, that you finally encounter her.
Starting point is 02:35:44 right? Is it before that? When you're out by the palms. That's when you encounter her, but there's a cutscene between her and another character. Oh, Hanhar. Yeah, when you first enter the docks
Starting point is 02:35:58 when you get to like where Voga's and Jack Jekhtar is, where you learn about how Hanhar and Mira know each other. So, yeah, Hanhar and Mira. I try parsing this. Because like,
Starting point is 02:36:13 that it's like a life debt gone bad that he owes her life debt he wants her to die but also on some level like think she wants like she needs to come to accept that she wants to die I couldn't parse there's there's a weird like he chokes her he chokes her a little bit
Starting point is 02:36:35 and it's like at some point I'm to kill you but you gotta be ready for it and she's like I don't want to hurt you just like get the fuck out of my way. It's a weird dynamic. I couldn't quite parse what's going on there. Yeah, I can't quite remember exactly where that first scene actually happens. Because I don't, I don't remember being in, I remember I had her talking to Voga and Voga being like, yo, fuck Godot's no attacking rule or whatever.
Starting point is 02:37:01 You work for me. You should, you know, we should both go after Godo, something like that, you know. And then a little while later, he's holding her out over the abyss in the refugee quarter. Yes, that I remember And that's where she's talked That's where they're talking about their life debt Rob Is that right? Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 02:37:17 And is that in the main landing pad zone Or is that in the quad That must be in the main zone The big with the big pit in the middle Presumably Yeah But yeah I think that the gist at this point
Starting point is 02:37:29 That we know is that they have There's a their life bonded In this way That is not Like you said it earlier It's the inverse of the kind of mission Big Z Like their friend
Starting point is 02:37:41 life bond, oh, you saved me, da-da-da-da-da. Or it's them just like 10 years later, where like Big Z's like, can't fucking take you, kid. Yeah, yeah. There's a little, there's a little of that vibe. You get from the Voga, Voga and Hanhar talk. And in that scene, Voga is like, Voga is the hut. And, and, uh, he's like, hey, how'd you meet him with with Godo go? And Hanhar says, you know, it was just a hologram. It's only his shadow in his voice because he's afraid of standing in front of everybody. And Voga's like, yeah, I don't, I'm not paying you to kill Godo. I'm paying you to, to, um, sorry, other way around. I'm not paying you to hunt him around to hunt him. I'm paying you to kill Godot. And Han Har is like,
Starting point is 02:38:25 listen, I'm the best bounty hunter there is. I went to the shadowlands of Kashik and I'm like, oh yeah, I remember, that's a long ass level. Um, uh, he's like, you know, I, I returned with the Kinrath pincers and I'm like, oh yeah, I remember from earlier in this game we had to fight a Kinrath? And Voga says yes. That's why Zirka found you such easy prey, because he has the scars of battle on him, basically. I care nothing for the accomplishments of primates on some backwater world, Hanhar. I only care for your accomplishments here upon the smuggler's moon. But if you cannot perform the task, then perhaps the human female will serve. Mira, is it? Even nauseatingly thin and shapely and free of wrinkles, she is said to have a dancer's grace and to be a better
Starting point is 02:39:08 hunter than you. She refuses to kill, but I imagine with enough credits I can persuade her otherwise, especially considering what a disappointment you've been to me. And Han Har is like, yo, if you talk about her again, I'll tear your tongue from your throat. And then his dogs like, go rar at him, and Hanhar's like, whoa, chill.
Starting point is 02:39:25 Which is ridiculous, because those dogs aren't shit. He could take those dogs. He's a wookie. He's a wookie. The dogs are dogs. He found the Shadowlands. We fought a thaw. He killed a kinrath, right? Like, what are we doing? Why is this anything to me?
Starting point is 02:39:38 Um, Natalie, have you, have you figured out where the Hanhar and Mirat Convo happens? It might have been, maybe this is a, uh, a, oh, it is. I think you're right. A restored content thing, because I don't see it in the strategy guide. Um, and I've been. I've got a big list of this stuff. Nar Shadah, let's see here. Okay. But it does hit when you're in the dock.
Starting point is 02:40:08 and you approach the Jek Jektar around there for the first time. Right. I remember that one, yes. So here's some stuff, just for the record of like what's new from the content restoration because there's a lot here. One, TN. Tubb, the engineer, the droid engineer, and Beauder, are friends. That's like part of the conversation that you can get. They knew each other from the war, right?
Starting point is 02:40:29 That's new. When we're going to get here momentarily, when the exile goes off to meet Viskwis and the Jek check tar. If the player has low influence with, um, with Atten, he will not rush off to meet with her to tell her to be careful, but instead just stays in the Evan Hawk and leaves the other party members there while he goes to the canteen. So you have to like earn Atten coming to help you and warn you that you talked about earlier, Al, you remember when you're like Atten comes after you to be like, hey, take these med kits. That you have to earn. The fighting that happens with the docs, uh, after Atten fights the twin sons is new. Uh, there's some Jugbrother stuff that's new.
Starting point is 02:41:07 when there's some go to there's some stuff there's some other stuff coming i don't see the thing that we're talking about the han har mirror uh scene uh that you're talking about natalie here so i think it might come later i think it must come as part of this big ongoing thing um it just been so long it appears similarly like the other bounty hunter scenes do when like as soon as you enter a new area of this like, of this set of areas a cutscene place. Right. And it's like each one of them
Starting point is 02:41:41 is like, aha, we're all tracking down the exile. Right. Yeah. Right. I see. That makes sense. The twin sons are like, I don't want to kill the hot Jedi. And it's like, we must kill the hot Jedi. It's like, must we? We must, apparently. Ah, I found it.
Starting point is 02:41:57 Thank God. This is not like the Jedi. Okay. Um... Yes, as you walk towards the door to Voga's enclave and you head towards Pylon 3, Mira's watching you from like across the docks. And if you're, if you're there, we're starting to see. This is on your way after the red eclipse stuff or is this on your, like, after you get the call? This is the first time you're there.
Starting point is 02:42:26 This is the first time you're in the docks. Okay. Um, so this is throughout Narshadah, I think the game kind of figures that you've, you are either dark-sided or light-sided and you start to get more, um, kind of unique, uh, dialogue options or dialogue about you, depending on if you're dark-sided or light-sided. Right. Um, so if you are dark-sighted, Mira will say, looks like more of one of the Sith to me. if you're neutral she says sure doesn't look much like a Jedi and if you're light-sighted she says well looks like the Jedi raised their standards
Starting point is 02:43:06 this is the type of character mirror is lots of like yeah yeah and then I guess the restored content mod adds this if Cray is in your party at this time mirror will say and it looks like you're not alone how many Jedi are on this moon anyway And then Hanhar approaches her from behind, like, kind of intensely. And Mirr will say, you know, Hanhar, I thought I smelled something. I've told you before. Hunt your own targets.
Starting point is 02:43:43 Don't scavenge mine. And Hanhar's like, you are my prey female, always. And Mir is like, what? working for the huts suddenly make you stupider hanhar you touch me you'll break the truce and then you won't last long enough to slip off this moon hanhars like maybe i forget truce for a short while go mad forget rules because this is we mentioned this earlier but the bounty hunters are not allowed to kill each other right there's a rule yeah or you in bounty hunting if you have a bounty hunter target you cannot sabotage by attacking other bounty hunters this is so john wick coded
Starting point is 02:44:22 this is all from the Bounty Hunter like the tales of the Bounty Hunter stuff at the time it was so sick I loved all this when I was a 16 year old the Bounty Hunter Guild in Star Wars anytime I played like an online RPG like a text based RPG I was like I don't have to be a bounty hunter
Starting point is 02:44:38 I have to join the Bounty Hunter's Guild and like follow all the rules so all this hit when I was 19 or whatever in this game came out that's awesome I thought it was really fun I like you know it was fun that there's like you know this group of Bounty
Starting point is 02:44:52 County hunters, do they have these rules they have to abide and how they approach you? And then everyone throws it out the window anyway. Of course, yeah. So Hanhar, this is where he picks her up by the throat and saying maybe, okay, Hanhar goes a little, a little, it's a little
Starting point is 02:45:08 too much, my opinion. But he says, maybe seeing your bones break, seeing you in pain will be all I need to see before I die. Then the life debt over and I can be at peace. Mir says, don't Hanhar, I'm warning you. Warn me, of what?
Starting point is 02:45:27 Warn me, you trick me. Warn me, you violate life debt? Little human girl, I could crush you with one hand and lifetime of misery. I don't want your life debt, Hanhar. I told you. Then little girl should not have made mistakes so long ago. On Kashik, females who make mistakes die. Hanhar smells your fear even through the,
Starting point is 02:45:51 the stink of the moon. Yeah, you're right, I'm afraid. I'm afraid if you keep crushing me, I'll accidentally set off my rocket charges and blow us both to now Huda. Are you finally ready to die? I do not think so. Your eyes show you are still filled with fear.
Starting point is 02:46:09 I'd rather die than be caught by you again, Hanhar. It is not the time for you to enter the shadow lands. When it is, I will be there. My claws at your throat. will stare into your eyes as you die. And then he releases her and they both shuffle away. Anyway, that's why no fault divorce was a good thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:35 Yeah. So, I mean, I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to see. He rescued her when she was a kid on, like, he rescued her when she's a kid. That is like implication one, right? Well, no, it has to be the other way around. Because otherwise, she would have a like to him. She had to save his life that you're right. Yes, right.
Starting point is 02:46:54 And I get the feeling that, yeah, like, the way that Hanhart talks about this and kind of like in later conversations, he would rather die than continue to have a life debt to, like, the way that this is like an all-encompassing total absolute rule that he must abide by no matter what is like maddening him that he cannot break out of this um out of this adherence to this code to this obligation. Don't they also say that he's like an outcast because again like he's the dark big Z like he was fighting Zirko when they were like running slave operations on Kashik and he like fought Zirka too and rose up against them but also like
Starting point is 02:47:50 wiped out his clan in the process or something like that like that he killed a lot of wookies uh sort of just making like war against everyone um so like in a weird ways he clinging to this one last thing that defines him as like a wookie because every other taboo has been broken well if you talk to voss um you can ask him to tell you about each of of the bounty hunters that are tracking you. And what he says about Hanhar is that he was captured by Zerka and killed his Zerka slavers. He now hunts on this mood and other systems.
Starting point is 02:48:35 He says he uses bounty hunting as an excuse for taking slaves and for breaking and killing humans wherever he can find. It is said he killed his own tribe, but no one knows for sure. So. I got to get this guy on the team Sign him up
Starting point is 02:48:54 Bring him on board Crayal love this guy A little raw I can fix him I can fix him Well I mean It really depends on how far we played forward Because we've now seen this guy in combat
Starting point is 02:49:08 Debatably I have not You have not Okay so Rob after For me I guess I did the thing I did all the side quests I could do And I went back to the Ebb and Hawk
Starting point is 02:49:17 Dealt with the red eclipse guys and then we had a team meeting because the exchange called and was like, it's time, hey, exile, what if we hung out? And everyone is like, dude, that's a trap, obviously. And you have a little meeting and it's like, all right, I guess. But like, that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:49:34 We got to go find the Jedi and we know that Godot and the exchange and has the information. And we also need to figure out how to get clearance to leave the planet or the moon once we're done. So like, I guess it's time to go confront these guys. And that's when you run, for me, that's when I ran into mirror again. I think that that's true for everybody. I think everybody runs into mirror again at this point. Is that right?
Starting point is 02:49:56 It's so weird to see everybody talking to each other, like, as if they're friends and we have, like, a combined mission or purpose together. But I did kind of love it when those dudes try to hit the Ebenhawk. And Atten's like, hey, hey, Bayo, which ones do you want? Yeah. He's like, I'll take the idiot on the left. Yeah. I decided to talk, grab and shoot. it rules and then they chest bump and like fucking wreck shop and it's like maybe they're chilling when you're not on board maybe they're bonding i mean it it is very weird how the game sort of like inserts those moments into the game without making them explicit like the relationship that i had with craya early in this game and then having like a cutscene happen where it was me and craya like hanging out in the cop the cockpit like talking to each other i was like that what's never have like what the hell is going on here but like i it is really i mean we've said this a lot but it's fascinating to me how much of this game is interested in dialogue between these other characters especially when you're not around right yeah yeah and so yeah you're kind of make this
Starting point is 02:51:10 plan i'm going to go out i'm going to go i kind of got called by the ex by the uh exchange and i'm going go deal with them y'all keep the ship safe and is like i'm gonna privately it's like i'm gonna go be a distraction to make sure that the bounty hunters don't don't jump you right i think maybe he just decides that on his own actually um and this is also where he shows up to like give you the the med packs and stuff um and then you run into mira and mira is like so you're the big bad Jedi that everyone's been talking about you don't seem too tough to me and then and then you end up talking to her a little bit, and she leads you to her
Starting point is 02:51:49 little... Did she lead you to her little place? Yeah, yeah. And you're talking about how stinky it is. She did not approach me here. Hanhar did. Yes. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:52:06 Hanhar was like... So if you're sufficiently dark-sided. Yeah. So that is Ali, I think you're not getting mirror. Or sorry, you're not going to get Hanhar. I think you're getting mirror. Natalie the Siflor. Let me tell you, Hanhart, great member to the team. And Hanhart's got hands.
Starting point is 02:52:22 He's really pulling his weight. He's got hands. 100%. No, he approaches you and he's like, uh, you know, you've come to this moon to hunt. You're looking for other Jedi. Um, you know, it's, uh, I know where the Jedi is. I can help you.
Starting point is 02:52:39 And you can be like, why would you help me? And, um, he's like, I want, I want to find Godot because, you know, I know you want to find Godo and I want to get rid of Godot. And I mean, he says like crazy shit. He's like, he says, you are strong. I can smell the blood on your hands and hear the many dead that screams silently behind you.
Starting point is 02:53:09 But Visquist makes error in contacting Jedi. He is trying to cheat all hunters by robbing us of prey and capturing you himself. But I have a plan. Continue to the Jek Jektar. I will go ahead and I will get close to Viskwis. Then we will strike a new deal for you, for me, for the Jedi. Now wait a second.
Starting point is 02:53:29 He does not say for the Jedi. Yeah, he does. He says for G-Di. Yeah, he does say G-Di. He says G-di. I hate that it's written as G-Di-I. He puts a little swag on it. A little soft.
Starting point is 02:53:44 And the thing is, they're just translating whatever the wookie word is for Jedi. That's why he's up saying. But it's like G-di. G-die. Like, all right, I get it. Okay. Maybe that's their location. He's a weird guy even among wookies.
Starting point is 02:53:58 I think so. I think so. It's giving this man a free. Wookiee. Yeah, I mean, yeah, big time wookiee wangro. Yeah. But what's going to happen to Natalie now if she becomes light-sided? Like, is he just going to fuck off?
Starting point is 02:54:14 off the ship or is he going to become light side of the clothes and her wookie i don't know that you i don't know that you can you can i think honhar mandolore no you can change their there you can change their influences because i don't know they're their light side points gain with yours right so is there only if you gain influence with them if you've met's influence with someone they'll they'll mirror your influence or your light side dark side lowest they'll opposite you that's right which is very funny because it could mean you could get Hanhar lower his if you stay evil get Hanhar and then become
Starting point is 02:54:49 as evil as positive and piss him off right then would he be get super light side because he hate you? You'll be like I actually love people I hate killing because you suck so bad you suck the fun out of killing people
Starting point is 02:55:06 yeah apparently lost its swag I know that you can turn Mira Darkside because I've seen Darkside Mira with the Palpatine face, you know, with the, like, the fucked up face. But I, I don't, I didn't, I think you can. I think you can make him dark light side, which is very goofy. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:55:26 I don't know if I'll be doing that. I don't think he will. Depends on, depends on his story. Um, but what does happen to, in order to kind of shuffle me back into the same path that you guys are going is as I approach Jack Jack Tarr, Mira shoots me with a blow dart Don't get used to this
Starting point is 02:55:49 And I pass the fuck out But Hanhar Hanhar's already inside With Viskwis So And Mera takes Takes my place Yeah we didn't take this explicitly
Starting point is 02:56:03 Visquist is the exchange Like Quoran guy here One of two exchange guys Who are Korans on Narshadah They both work for Godo, who's the holographic guy that we see at the beginning. Viscuus, like Voga, wants to get one over on Goto by getting you, and keeping you for yourself, for himself.
Starting point is 02:56:25 And so he is the one who invites you to the Jack Jack Tarr. If you are light-sided or even neutral, Mira has a meeting with you or, like, you know, talks to you or whatever. And then it brings you back to her flop house spot. and then you while you're there is when Atten fights the twin sons which we already talked about and Mira in the safe house poisons you to knock you out right which is stupid yeah the it's like it's the conversation is about how smelly it is so she's drawing attention to it the whole time and she's like well I live here and it's smelly and you know it's fine you get used to it
Starting point is 02:57:08 And then she's like, ha ha, that smelly was poison and you're stuck here. And I'm like, okay, man, you're the one who brought it up. Yeah. That's so fucking funny. Yeah, my house is rang. It's so funny. It's fucking nasty in here. It's nasty in you.
Starting point is 02:57:27 I do live like this, Jedi. And then she goes back to the Jack Jack Tarx if she's in the big space suit going clang, clang, clang, clang, Clank, clank, clank, clank. They got to stop bringing this back. Clank, clank, clank. You did not cook with this one. You did not cook with the suit. I just, please.
Starting point is 02:57:50 It's so funny. Let it go. Let it go. Sometimes it's not, it's not the meal you thought you made. And she goes to- Mara-Jade going undercover. That's what it is. In her inflatable raptor costume.
Starting point is 02:58:06 And Viskwist is like, oh, you finally made it. Take off the suit. The air here is good for you, actually. And she takes it off. It's like... Like a Scooby-Doo villain. It literally is.
Starting point is 02:58:17 Yeah. And Han-Har is like, you! And she says, good eyes, Han-Har. No wonder you're still number two on Nar Shadah. And the two of them were like, er. And she's like, oh my God, visquist, you're trying to like get one over on Voga. That's a stupid plan. None of this matters.
Starting point is 02:58:35 But, you know, you get Star Wars, crime talk happening. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, these two criminals are trying to backstab each other. These two bounty hunters hate each other. It's like perfectly fun, but it's not, it doesn't mean. In this game filled with really interesting conversations, there's a string of kind of nothing conversations in a row here, you know? Including the one with the Jedi? Did we all get that? Does that come up for Natalie at all? Oh, no. So that's about to happen. Yes. So the person comes right after this. That's right. Right after this, you get Zez, Zayal.
Starting point is 02:59:05 I know you're asleep right now, but I want you to know how much I admire you. I see all that you're doing, and I respect it. This depends, actually, Rob. There's different things. You can gain or lose favor with him. Yeah. This is actually, I got confused with the exchange thing, because if you,
Starting point is 02:59:23 uh, because of where my favor was at with the exchange, what he says to me is I've been trying to discover your purpose in coming here, but it eludes me. Some of your actions have aided the exchange. Others have thwarted them. I did not know your intentions when you stood before us at your trial so long ago, and I do not know them now. But whatever they are, you've succeeded in drawing me out. So it's like, you really just got my gears turning and it's in it, you won. I'm
Starting point is 02:59:55 out. I got to talk to you about this. Well, that's funny. I got to know. If you're evil, Or if you've sided with the exchange a lot, he's, of course, like, I've seen the damage you've caused. I've seen everything you've done. You know, I know that I can't stand by and watch because there's no one here who's going to help me. But if you have, like, done, if you have pissed the exchange off, he says, I've watched you as you've traveled the refugee sector. By the way, this is like with the mustache and like the hair coming down, like the long hair, but like the monk cut long hair. He's the Hulk Hogan, you know what I mean? And the big mustache.
Starting point is 03:00:33 He actually kind of looks like just like an 80s wrestler big time. I've watched you. Hey, brother. Hey, brother. I've watched you as you travel the refugee sector, brother. They put hard times on these refugees. They put hard times on me, brother. That don't work for me, brother.
Starting point is 03:00:48 I've seen what you've done, what I refuse to do. Even exiled, you're more Jedi than I. If anything, know that your actions have convinced me. I can stand by and watch no longer while the exchange. closes its grip on this sector. I know a young woman went to meet with visquist in your place. He will not negotiate with her. He will kill her.
Starting point is 03:01:06 I intend to rescue her. I will turn shortly or not at all. If you've come to this moon for answers or for revenge, then you will follow me. For if I fail, then you will be denied both. So, you know, that's the first impression to me. Classic Jedi move to do nothing until I do something. And then, okay, now you're coming out. And now you're coming out of the woodwork to do something about it.
Starting point is 03:01:28 So true. And then, yeah, it is, it is, you go into the, you then wake up and you go into the Jekhtar, you can't breathe suddenly, even though it was fine earlier. And Craya is like, ah, yes, there's a secret Jedi technique for breathing in poison. Did you know that? I can teach it to you. And you're like, yeah, I guess, cool. And you just cast that.
Starting point is 03:01:52 And it lasts forever, which is a nice thing. That's for like 280 seconds or something, which is nice because, like, it's maybe worth casting it in the middle of mowing down dozens and dozens of aliens. Or you can just wear a breath mask and it's totally fine. Yeah, you can totally do that. I had mine on and it felt like it didn't have an effect. But then again, I don't know. Maybe I was confused by the cutscene because I don't remember getting poisoned while
Starting point is 03:02:18 I was fighting people either. If your health bar didn't turn green, then you were not poisoned. So you were just good. Yeah, you fight a bunch of guys. You fight a bunch of guys. You fight a bunch of guys. It's so many guys. There's so much fighting in this game.
Starting point is 03:02:33 And then this planet specifically, you might remember me saying, we're saving Narshadah for second. This is partly why. Because I think doing this without any force powers or like low force powers is a real pain, especially with the classes he all started with. No lightsaber also would be really hard. I think you maybe get one if you mismax your way early on here from some side quests, but it's just a pain. So, yeah, you go through, you meet with visquist, or I guess you don't actually meet with visquist.
Starting point is 03:03:02 How do you end up? He takes off. Oh, he takes off. You can, like, save his. Right before you come in the room, like attendance or whatever. Oh, because he has the secret tunnels. Because he's a secret tunnels. So he bounces.
Starting point is 03:03:15 And then when you... So the sequence is so dumb. Because, like, you're fighting through. It's like what if the crazy 88 battle from Kill Bill just sucked. ass yeah because it is you're just going into every room and just beating the shit out of there's like a billion gand that you kill and then it's like aha i am going to run away to my even more secret layer forgetting that we've already been to this whole thing is you fight your way through the bar to his private lounge secret layer he's like no i got another one that's right and we give me in his
Starting point is 03:03:47 cutscenes of uh hanhar being like yeah no this plan sucks this jettis like just fucking killing everybody like he's just gonna come and and and and viscous is like he'll never get through my mine maze and hanhar's like he's totally gonna make it through the the mine maze dude he's gonna get in here he's like well if he gets through the mine maze he will never defeat my oobies okay but interesting story about the ubi's bro they fucking hate Jedi have you read about that why because the new republic didn't do shit while their planet was destroyed by the Jedi? It's complicated.
Starting point is 03:04:29 So I did, I read this whole thing on the LP episode about this. The, so the way, the thing that happened basically was, and this is only in legends, this is gone now, I believe, right? They were humanoid-esque, but they also breathed a different type of thing, a different gas, right? they I'm trying to find the exact I want to make sure I read the exact right part of this here okay so they were really isolated for a long time and then eventually old Republic scouts met with them and ended up bringing a bunch of technology to them right so they before this they didn't have starships they didn't have blasters and their older public showed up and was like hey what if you got some spaceships and it benefited them quite a bit quote this initially
Starting point is 03:05:19 the society benefited from the technology and productivity quickly rose in all aspects of business. Health conditions improved so much that an unprecedented population room called for the colonization of other worlds in their system. However, Ubi's society eventually started to buckle in the face of such rapid technological advancements. The ability to disseminate information more rapidly broke clan boundaries and gave ambitious Ubees the tools to politically dominate regional public opinion and create nations which began to view each other with suspicion. So they're like an uplifted culture that instantly created the nation state and started to go to war with each other.
Starting point is 03:05:51 Within a few decades, the influx of alien technology prompted the UBC's interest to start creating their own weaponry in alien technology or advanced technology. As they developed their own weapon systems, their attitudes towards neighboring star systems began to shift from friendly to aggressive. Although first contact specialists
Starting point is 03:06:06 from other species attempted to dissuade Ube's from this course, the near humans grew so proud of their new inventions that they ejected the alien diplomats from their star system with warnings to the rest of the galaxy to fear the might of the Ubease. Local sector authorities were both alarmed and embarrassed by these events.
Starting point is 03:06:23 The UBs were building weapons that had been banned since the formation of the old republic, and the sector authorities were the ones who would be blamed for the Senate for letting the situation in the Uba system deteriorate as it had. So they were like building space nukes or whatever, which are not allowed. Following a debate driven by fear and misinformation, the sector council decided that a preemptive strike would prove sufficient to halt the UB's war machine, and that afterwards the people of the UBIS system would once again be open to. listening to the advice of the Republic diplomats. Unfortunately, the orbital strikes from the Republic against the Ubi's planets, sorry, the, again, preemptive orbital strikes against the Ubi's planets triggered the species
Starting point is 03:07:04 large scale and highly unstable tactical defense weapons. UBA 1, UBA 2, and UBA 5 were rendered completely uninhabitable from radioactive firestorms. Uba 3, where the species was originated, had actually completely shattered into space debris. Only on Uba 4 were their survivors, pathetic beings who would be condemned to scratch out in existence from poisoned soil and parched seabeds among scorched ruins. Sector authorities became so fearful for their future careers that they refused to offer aid to the surviving Ube's. They then ordered all information on the civilization to be deleted from all databases and the system removed from all start. charts, the incident was so effectively hushed up that word of it never reached Corrassant. While a few thousand survivors were relocated to far-off system Ubertica by officials who felt
Starting point is 03:07:57 the treatment of the Uba system was making a bad mistake worse, the majority of the survivors devolved into savage nomads. These survivors on Uba four came to call those Ube's who had been rescued, Yurak Puzak, a phrase that implies a cowardly nature in an impure parentage. In reality, the ones who escaped attempted to retrace their system of origin within a few years of being relocated, but the origin, but the location was such a big mystery to them that they couldn't find it. Millennia passed, and all the while here, they're blaming the Jedi for not having stopped this, basically. That, like, they blamed, quote, the protectors of the galaxy were what happened to their culture and homeworld. Even ex- Jedi were not above their hatred.
Starting point is 03:08:39 Many UBs could be found at the forefront of the death squads during the Great Jedi Purge, which, uh, Which is to say when, you know, thousands of years later, when Vader is killing all the Jedi, the Ubees are like, hell yes. Finally, it's time to kill the Jedi because they stood by and watched as four of our planets got blown up and the last one got erased from the Republic. By your Dr. Strange Love device, though. I mean, yes, this is true. They built a bunch of Dr. Strange Love devices, which they shouldn't have had. But I don't know. Preemptive strikes against them is, it's a tough one.
Starting point is 03:09:11 It's a tough pill to swallow, man. Three planets of civilian deaths Is a lot of planets of civilian deaths It's really fucked up If they sent me in I would have just deactivated The Dr. Strangelove devices I would have just handled it the right way
Starting point is 03:09:25 Well I mean the thing is that kind of makes me think The Oobies were really like Off book Because like they're like Hey don't even try to negotiate with us You should fear our rise But trust us We are you do not want this smoke
Starting point is 03:09:40 Also we've laced our planets with nukes, just in case anything goes wrong. If the galaxy fucks with us, we'll blow ourselves up. I do think it also maybe speaks to the fact that Star Wars does not have the Star Trek Federation,
Starting point is 03:09:55 what is the fucking rule called? Oh, Prime Directive. The Prime Directive of like not messing with peoples who have not already achieved faster than light space travel or whatever. So maybe they should adopt that. Maybe don't try to just give people spaceships.
Starting point is 03:10:12 you know I think maybe just don't get involved if you run into a culture that isn't quite there yet so anyway that's who he has guarding his base and Hanhar's like Hanhar when he when he's talking about them he's like these guys are like you you can you trust this this group of people who like they're hate they freak him out yeah yeah they freak him out a lot because Because they're, they're, how he describes is that they're so motivated by their hate for Jedi that it's like, there's like a risk of like loss of control that like there's, like, there's like. Wookie Wingrow does not want to go on a job with these guys. It's like, oh boy, these guys are not. They can't be controlled. They're just too risky. Well, I mean, the, I mean, it is a good point. Not like it isn't, it's not a good point.
Starting point is 03:11:12 But Godo wants the Jedi alive. That's right. Like that is, I think that is why Hanhar is worried about the Ubi's, is that like, Godo specifically wants the Hanhar, like the Jedi brought to him alive. And so I think what Hanhar is trying to caution against is the fact that like the Ubi's might not know or not, might not be able to stop themselves from, from killing her for him. goons and uncut gems. Right.
Starting point is 03:11:44 Yeah. Where it's like you're trying to get one over and you didn't understand like these guys are playing a different game. Yeah. You've hired them, but they're not here for your money. Shall we leave it there? Because is that where you, well, where did you get, I got down to the fighting pits. Yeah, we'll just set up that, which is they square off and we'll pick up there, maybe,
Starting point is 03:12:04 Hanhar and Mira. Because it's the thing, right, Viscuits is like, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. They're going to get him. But you know what? don't worry about it here i've got an appetizer exactly i got an appetizer for you big h uh you the the person you hate is down in the fighting pits and i guess we don't actually know that yet because the actual next thing is you have to walk through some vents oh right there's some dead people there who died and it's fine it's not even worth talking about so yes when we come back
Starting point is 03:12:33 we'll talk about the fight between hanhar and mira i'm very curious how that went for natalie as the Hanhar player? Because presumably you play that as Hanhar and not as Mira. So what I didn't realize, yes, I played it as Hanhar. It was really easy because he's so strong. And I basically immediately gave him like Max toughness, Max Master Flurry, and Max two-handed weapons. Yeah, you just got to crush with him.
Starting point is 03:13:06 Yeah, I just was like, go for it. He got that Wookiey rage. He's going to be fine. Go for it, brother. Wookie rage is nuts. Yeah, go for it, brother. So I, but what I didn't realize is that you don't need to do that section as either Mira or Hanhar, depending on who you end up going with.
Starting point is 03:13:30 Because if you get Hanhar or Mira to the escape tunnel, so essentially when you open up in that area. There are a Bajillion Ubees everywhere. Yeah. This is a tip. So for Ali and Rob, you have not played past this point, right?
Starting point is 03:13:49 No. For me, it's like they're drawing swords down to the fighting pen. Yeah, yeah. I got the pro tip incoming. This is a pro tip. This is worth saying even though you haven't gotten here yet.
Starting point is 03:13:57 Okay. Because your Jedi is probably better, your exile is probably better suited to these fights than Mira is what I'm guessing because it sounds like Mira is like not really great at taking on multiple ends.
Starting point is 03:14:09 enemies at one time. She is a ranged character. If you use mines, like I didn't. I bet she's fine. But I did not use mines. She has a stupid rocket launcher that sucks. She has... Oh, that's why there's rockets in the fucking locker rooms.
Starting point is 03:14:26 Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, you'll loot rockets as you move around this area. So there are a bazillion guys after you get out of this fight. Like, there are so many guys. There's so much looting to do. However, if as you go out the ramp, there's to your left the escape tunnel. You'll approach it and it'll say like emergency escape or escape tunnel or something like that. And if you interact with that as Mira or Hanhar, it'll be like, oh, it looks like it needs like
Starting point is 03:14:57 a identity signature to open and there will be like a little panel next to it. And you can just click that and you can just leave. Like, you'll, Mira will exit and you'll awaken as the Jedi. And then the Jedi, or as the exile. Yeah. And the exile can clear out the area themselves and loot themselves. My Jedi doesn't have very high security. And there are a few security locks.
Starting point is 03:15:29 So if your Jedi doesn't have high security, you may want to do it with Mira. However, something interesting did happen, which is that when I was playing this area as Hanhar, I bashed everything and I did not get a single broken item. So I don't know if there was like, if there's some check for bash to broken item that I had like I had the right stats behind it. We'll case combines less strength and for that's. It's true. So I mean, I must have bashed. like 15 lockers and in steel containers and not a single broken item. So I don't know if there's some sort of stat that informs that. But yeah, if you don't want to go through that area as Mira, have her go through the escape tunnel and you'll awaken as the Jedi and then you clear the area out as the Jedi.
Starting point is 03:16:29 Also, I have an answer for how bashing works, which is it can destroy disposable items that would normally be added. So credits, components, chemicals, med-packed, stim, etc. Armor, weapons, you know, accessories, droid parts, those do not get destroyed that way. Particular droid parts. Droid parts, the currency, does get destroyed. But like, a droid shield would not get destroyed. So actually, yeah, bashing is really useful here, though I will say this is one of the zones where having healing items is going to be very, very, very, very useful. Mirror does not have force heal. Mira has whatever med packs you have, and that is it. My other Mira tip, if you do want to actually try to play through this section with her
Starting point is 03:17:12 and not just tag in your exile, is the Ubis do not have a great line of sight, and they do not have great tracking. So if you, like, grab one of them and then kite them away from the party, even with like three of them run at you, if you run around a corner the right way, they'll just get lost in the sauce, and they will not get to you, you know? And so there's lots of ways to cheese this. I think, number one, feel free to put this on easy. This is definitely that moment.
Starting point is 03:17:40 And then number two, as Natalie said, you can get to this one door that will let you just advance past it. And it's very early. It's very early. Well, it's very early if you go that way. You can very easily turn up or down to the left to like the wrap back around the pit, you know? There's a ramp. And if you just go straight from the ramp, you'll enter like a console room
Starting point is 03:18:06 and it's to the left you'll see a door I'll find you a map like a security door yeah yeah yeah I recommend it and then there's another tip
Starting point is 03:18:19 is that when you wake up as the Jedi or you can do this as Mira there is another like command room on the other side of that room where you can use computer spikes to like blow up 10 guys at once
Starting point is 03:18:38 in two different rooms I wish I found out before I cleared those rooms yeah you can just do that as well you get XP when you do that right you do yeah you do I've embraced the Austin Walker like philosophy of like reviews around you can kill
Starting point is 03:18:53 yeah like gotta get it's like coins I've linked you to a wonderful strategy guide from game banshee dot com from a different era and you can kind of see the map here and I think it's number six on this map, the emergency tunnel control
Starting point is 03:19:09 so. Oh, from the area, yeah, yeah. From the middle, you go up, you go left like Natalie said, and that's where you can bring your exile in. But again, you know, there might be stuff if you don't have high security, you might run into some trouble, but yeah,
Starting point is 03:19:25 I think it's worth it. I think it's worth bringing the exile because it's such a pain. It's such a long, weird fight with her. specifically. Though you might want to check her out and see if you like her weird wrist rocket launcher that can shoot paralysis darts that don't do shit. Oh, that's the dart thing. Ah, okay. She's a wrist launcher. I'm gonna sell all of those. Yeah, sell all that shit. Or break him down. But, uh, and again, just get yourself some healing items because there is, there's all that stuff to come and maybe even some more after. So.
Starting point is 03:19:58 All right. Well, that will do it for this edition. and we'll be back next time. I guess we're playing through the rest. Yeah, we're playing through the rest of Narshadah. You'll know. You'll have a confrontation with Goro. You'll be back to the Ebenhawk. You'll know.
Starting point is 03:20:13 All right. Until next time, please rate and review us on your podcast, a platform of choice. This has been a long one, a brutal one. Thank you for pushing through. Is there more Narshadah left than we have done? No, we're now on the final push. It's just that there is.
Starting point is 03:20:30 We've gotten over the 15. percent mark i i think so because i think mostly it's the big open quest stuff the rest of it is very it's it's this dungeon and then there's some more fighting in the open area that was added to the crm which again it does not fucking need but there's some like fighting in the streets um as atten and just two other people or whatever i think if you haven't done that yet and then there's like a finale on the yacht on the super yacht and that finale is another big dungeon that has like a kind of a fun idea behind it that we can talk about but it's it's straightforward and then there's some conversations so and that's it there's no more running around the the little
Starting point is 03:21:09 zones outside of if you want to go back after you know man i can't believe this series keeps doing the whole it's a party based RPG system and we're going to keep putting like solo characters in like one v many encounters that they're not spec for at all and this will be fun doing it with the character who you've never played as before is especially like poor design, I think, poor decision making. But, you know. Yeah. Well, especially because
Starting point is 03:21:37 like they're, they set you up with, she's got a bunch of levels on her when you get her, but like everything about her build is like this is a gunner who like mows down targets. But you'd have to really
Starting point is 03:21:53 push her in a direction to be good in these one v. one fights. Yeah. Or make her. You have to really go contra, what she clearly spec to do. Yep. To make her tanky enough to do the thing you're not to do out of the gate. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:05 I think also an important thing about her to remember is she does not set off minds. She can just run through minds. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the power. She can even do that. She can even do that with a party. If she's the person you're controlling, you will not set off minds when you walk through them.
Starting point is 03:22:23 Oh. Even other people? Even other people. If she's the lead, the party leader. which is nice so she has you know she's she's not bad you know but uh yeah so everyone is has beer except for me that's right yeah because i think ali probably you were great i'm like i'm the middle points i'm in the red but i don't know it's a really it's i think you should be at like negative 10 instead of negative i mean you're like negative eight you know or whatever i just
Starting point is 03:22:55 keep like deciding on the good or neutral thing because it's too there is some neutral there like I saw there's like a neutral specific I got spoilers for someone's robe but there is like a neutral
Starting point is 03:23:11 only robe that you can get so I don't know I think it's like worth maybe somebody going a neutral route maybe or however you want to play it but I found that really interesting I was like oh, maybe that adds, like, a little bit more credibility to, like, being neutral-sided, the fact that there's, like, specific gear that's neutral, neutral, uh, that's not nothing,
Starting point is 03:23:36 I guess, huh? Yeah. Oh, wow. I can get a third-way Jedi robe? That's right. Incredible. Uh-huh. You won't believe whose robe it is.
Starting point is 03:23:44 Oh, shit. Did I find a solutions crystal? I forgot about this one. I, yeah. Yeah. It's someone's, it's very funny. It's someone we knows robe. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:23:55 We know this person. A famous fence sitter? That's right. A famous fence sitter. That's exactly it. Oh, I need to know. That's not really, that's not really. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 03:24:05 But you'll say, we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. Well, yeah, so stick around for that next time. And don't forget to find the cursed mod that Natalie found. Go to gamefront.com. Get that mirror revision. That mirror revision mod.
Starting point is 03:24:25 Zero stars rating. The description of it basically says it's a piece of shit, but there it is. In the name of fixing the color of her shirt, someone is basically just fucked up her entire palette. It's very funny. Somebody else said fuck that that tie top, that sexy girl tie top.
Starting point is 03:24:52 And let's give her a real shirt and also gin enormous boobs. Just, just. Wait, are the boobs different? The boobs are way different. The boobs are just contoured to hell. Those are different. Yeah, they are, maybe they're just contouring.
Starting point is 03:25:08 Who could say? Yeah, I think it's just a hot. Contoring in like a push-up, you know. Yeah. And her abs. I don't know what's going on there. They look. It's scary to be.
Starting point is 03:25:16 Convex. They look like they go in. Animus has some things. So the description of the mod maker, I couldn't take that turquoise undershirt seriously on a bounty hunter slash Jedi and this slash Jedi interesting see and decided to change some other things while I was at it she now looks more like a quote red mained huntress enjoy the new look that's exactly what she looks like on game front the skin is now
Starting point is 03:25:42 orange as you can see in the screenshots so my guess is that mirror has gone a little overboard with the foundation the author has also done some texturing work on mirror's stomach area it seem more musely. In my opinion, this may not have been such a good move. She is a woman after all. Well, well, my description is a subscriber. 16 years ago. It's all fucking take it out.
Starting point is 03:26:07 Oh, it's bad all over. It's not good. It's so bad. This is fantastic. Yeah. So don't download that. Leave Mirr as she is. I will not be doing that.
Starting point is 03:26:22 leave Mira the way she is and and you know don't forget it's it's the long way that matters you know it's the long it's the long game
Starting point is 03:26:36 I see right like Gita said yes like Gita like Gita said or like that little freak that slave route or like that's right the long way see you next time I'm gonna redistribute the money I'm gonna it's like
Starting point is 03:26:52 The money I get is going... She's redistributing people and money, folks. The Mandalorian is going to get some, whose man at selling you some. The brothers on Tilos is going to get some. It's being distributed. God, I'm doing. Thank you.

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