A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 19: The Zillo Beast (Clone Wars 40-41)

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

A two episode Godzilla and King Kong inspired arc? Certainly that couldn't leave us with enough material to go for more than 70, 80 minutes tops. Talk about the monster design, the War on Terror allegory, maybe even sneak in a conversation about the ongoing pacing and structure of the series? In an out, righ-  I'm being handed a piece of paper. It says "they went for two hours." Ah. Well, nevertheless. NEXT TIME: Episodes 42 - 44 ( "Death Trap," "R2 Come Home," and "Lethal Trackdown") Show Notes Fallen Clones: Hawkeye, Kosmos, Fallen Comrades: THE MOTHERFUCKIN ZILLO BEAST

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Clone Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zakney, joined by Ali Akpura, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. Today, we are unleashing the beast, the Zillow Beast. No, not the real estate Titan, but instead a Cloverfield-style monster. which is itself a Godzilla rip-off that the Jedi will awaken while testing a super weapon, do the compassionate thing, and save it as an endangered species, only to have it hijacked by Chancellor Palpatine and thrust into some wildly unethical medical experiments. And then in the most predictable outcome possible, the beast escapes and begins wreaking havoc

through downtown Khorasan. Of course, all of Choracin is downtown, but you get, you get my drift. This thing, this thing is going to wreck some house. And it is going to be the first character who fully realizes Palpatine is evil. So this is also going to be the first time we see an intelligent being on this show, put two and two together and realize, oh, there's, there's some real rot beneath this mask. I mean, can I, can we open on the Faloni zone? Please, I was so curious

What the Faloni Zone was going to be for these two episodes I got to leave for us Because it leads off of something Rob says A little frame, like We, Rob, I know we have to go through these episodes Bit by bit, but your summary kind of just did it Like, that is the thing And so to bounce off of your

The Monster Knows Palpatine is evil We should watch this Filoni zone that I'm linking This is the Zillow B strikes back episode featureette All right Let me know when you're ready. Ready. Everybody else ready? Mm-hmm.

Yep. Three, two, one, go. Perhaps now would be a good time to evacuate to the lower levels. Yeah, I thought George's choice to have Palpatine catch a Zillaby's eye, or wrath in this case, was better than if it fell in love with Padman. Like King Paul. You know. Is that the original idea? It was nice that Palpatine gets some love there.

I hate, as it were. I was joking with George, that nobody in the public knows or the Jedi especially is that the Zillow beast the whole time. He's trying to tell the Jedi that Palpatine's Sith Lord. He knows, like, he can sense that kind of thing. And he's, you know, he's yelling and screaming. He's like, no, he's official.

There's a cartoon. And they don't know. Word bubble on scream. I do, so I know what he was saying. It's kind of unfortunate. You know, he could have saved the whole galaxy. The word bubble said, look out, he's a Sith ward. He's a shifty.

Yes. He's a creeper. He's a creeper The description of Pad or the description of Sheev as a creeper A creeper A creeper Is extremely good

Creeper Oh man So you're exactly right Zillob beast knew the whole time It's a word of God That's that's fucking This Yeah

I once again I have to give extreme kudos To the post production On the Filoni zone Killing it every single week Every time Every time I'm just struck

by the implication that George parachuted in there and was like, this thing where the Zillow Beast falls in love with Padme not working for me. Let's ax that. Imagine George Lucas having a reference to a 1930s, like

pop culture, like fantasy sci-fi icon. Imagine George Lucas being like, nah, I don't like it. We've got to pass on this one. Listen, you know me. I love this shit. But what if instead, like it hinges on like this animal is really perceptive and empathetic and sees that this person is evil.

And yeah, I love it. It all works out. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense. What? Because the reason why the beast is piss is because he watches Palpatine say kill him. It's not because he's like, I know that this man has a secret identity. Listen, listen, I don't know, sometimes animals can sense the truth of a person.

Yeah. I think maybe that Zillow beast, I mean, yes, Palpatine was mistreating the Zillow beast. But, I mean, we're already have to interpret a degree of deep thinking from the Zillow beast, because it's not Palpatine who's physically hurting him. It's the little flamethrower or poison drone that's hurting him. But it perceives who's giving the orders. It's very much like, remember that scene in Beethoven when David Dukovney is plotting the takeover of Charles Grotin's air freshener business.

Let me tell you, Rob, I do not. Yeah. Anyway, there's the scene. Tell me more. Yeah. So the two, like, investors who are just secretly going to scrap Charles Grotin's little air freshener company, they're having a family, like, dinner, and while it runs away from the table, except Beethoven, the St. Bernard, they talk about how cool it's going to be to destroy this guy's company and push him out.

And Beethoven is like, what the fuck? And then, because, tragically, Beethoven can't speak. Beethoven puts Kaibosh on this the only way it knows how, which is to comically tangle them up in his very long leash. And then drag them hogtide through the yard. Much like the Zillow beast ran rampant through Khorasan, smashing things up. You're saying this is not just a... Yes.

Are you saying that this is both a Godzilla and Beethoven send up? Or are you saying that Beethoven was already a Godzilla? ascend up. And there's a line of heritage here. Yeah, I think Beethoven is, Beethoven is a kaiju, a small kaiju. Right, a small kaiju. But like a kaiju. But in the way that kaiju are

standings for socioeconomic, sure, absolutely. Yes. biological, ecological. Charles Groton's like, I hate this monster. And everyone's like, I think the monster is speaking truth to us that we need to hear. And by the end, Charles Grodin agrees. Also, Stanley Tuching and all her

plat are in that movie, inexplicably. Great A really stacked cast Can I raise the King Kong versus Godzilla question? I feel like The Zill Beast is not a clear

Is not picking a clear lane Between the two Yeah, agreed They think it's Godzilla And I have the evidence Here's the promo poster for it That's just a Godzilla poster That's a good poster

Shit, okay The characters in the foreground suck but the part where it's just like clip art, that's bad But this But you know that You understand what's happening Do you know the iconic Godzilla poster

That it's aping? Oh no, I don't Oh, okay Here's the original Godzilla poster It's the same Oh, it's the same style So it's like TV guide style Like that era of magazines

Where it's like So it is exactly this particular Like faces in the bottom In the foreground looking up This is great This makes me really happy But Godzilla don't be climbing. Godzilla don't be climbing.

Not the way King Kong be climbing. King Kong be climbing on buildings, be looking out at the city, thinking about things. That's Zillowbeach shit. Zillow beast is awakened by a nuclear explosion. That's that is Godzilla. That's Godzilla shit. So like it's, the thing is it's drawing from both. Like I would say, you'd even say part one, he's Godzilla.

part two of this two-parter, he is King Kong. He's like literally put into the King Kong, like bring him across, bring him to New York style shit. So what we're saying here is that if the Zillow beast was somehow in King Kong versus Godzilla, it would be able to find like a common ground between the two and like... I think it's going the other way, which I think we found... We have found the lost child of King Kong and Godzilla. This is it.

They did work it out. It's worked out fine. Stylistically, it is also very cloverfield, just in terms of, like, it's all, like, long, slithery, you know. I like the design. Me too. I like the extra arm on the back.

I don't think we used it enough. But I think it's cool that it's there, underutilized. Yeah. Yeah. So, to settle this up. Yeah. The other thing running through this episode is there's times you can

ask, how complicit are the Jedi in what the Republic is turning into? How morally compromised are they becoming? This episode answers that very quickly. It will begin and end with the Jedi up to their eyeballs and two things that are kind of like shocking. One is we find them in the closing stages of what looks like a Warhammer 40K campaign on the planet Malistair. It sounds like a Warhammer 40K planet, by the way. Yes. Yeah. And they are there, the opening narration tells us,

because the war effort is running low on processed fuel for the war machine. And they are there to do a deal with the... Are these the same guys as the racer? Subboba. Subboa. Yeah, these is the Subbo. Subbo's beeps. Yes, correct.

The Dug. The Dugs. Yeah. And they're like... And their leader, Doge Uris. Doge oris. Ores. Doge is probably a title, right?

Doge, the way... But also, it's like dog. So... It's also like dog. It's also like dog. This must predate Doge as... Is this pre-Doge coin? It's probably pre-Doge coin.

It's probably pre-Doge meme. I don't know if it's pre-Doge meme. Doge meme is pretty antiquated at this point. I think this episode is pretty antiquated at this point. This is from 2010 as a meme. The photo is from 2010, but it only became popular in 2013. God. Yeah.

Okay. You got me. Sorry. So. Maybe. Yeah. So the thing is, it's also got very, like, Fallout 3 vibes where they're literally up in a watch tower about to watch.

Remember when we were asking, hey, why don't you just make the entire bomb out of the Droid Popper? Yeah. Well, they did it. And it turns out, I guess you can only go so far with droid popper technology before you have to start really fucking up, like, the surface of a planet and the line between droid popper and high explosive becomes real academic. Because what they've done is they have lured the separatists into a massive set piece battle outside this base they've set up. And they have the entire, like, Republic Force drawn up basically to fight a holding action against. this like tidal wave of separatist troops

and then the appropriate moment they're going to have one of their Y-wing bombers drop this experimental like large yield anti-droid warhead on the battlefield and basically like wipe out this army in one go. The theory is it will not

harm any organics. It will not harm any like clones or dugs or a Jedi in the area it's just going to like demolish droids and machines. If you're a in a machine if you're if you're part machine as we saw it with Anakin also yeah

best part of this episode yeah I hope no one here had like a pacemaker they needed or other like unhardened we're making a big omelette here yeah dude yeah we're gonna crack some eggs that was like I do genuinely think Ali said it was the best part of this episode I think that that shot is really good and I think that like the reminder And him, like, realizing it as it's happening is really good. Yeah. We get, like, no acknowledgment of his hand ever. So to see, like, the electric pulse in it in this episode.

It was really cool. I am surprised that our dear friend, Mr. Explorer, Obi-Wan Kenobi was not a bigger part of these two episodes. Yeah. Given his general attitude towards these sorts of. of things. He gets involved a little bit in two when he's like, we have to protect this thing and to study it and not kill it, right?

And that's why he tags in Padme, but he's not doing the arguments himself. You're right. Yeah. It's just, I feel like it fits kind of a lot of circumstances that we've seen him in before. The Obi-Wan that we know is putting this thing in the trunk of a spaceship. This is the thing. Oh, ran off. I think they wanted, yeah, uh-huh.

Well, the thing is. In that way, he actually aligns towards sheave a little bit more than Mace. And so I feel like they went with Mace because Mace is being framed as like the most principled, most like, we follow our fucking code shit Jedi that we have. Well, he has a conservationist mindset, right? Where it's like animals deserve habitats and like to live freely. Obi-Wan's like, we can do that once we understand them. And whatever it takes to a right understanding, including letting your buddy get eaten by a brainworm, like, that's all in play for Obi-Wan.

Right, exactly. Allie, you had a... I do want to raise that Mace Windu's idea is not that much better when he's like, oh, we'll just bring it to a planet at the outer rim. People probably live out there. There's probably like an ecosystem that doesn't need a Zillow beast. I agree with you completely. lose. But I also think that's like, are there times when environmental destruction risks

animal populations and you as a conservationist have to go, well, the people aren't going to leave? They're not. Like, they're not going to give back the space. How do I save what's here? What is the, what is, how far is that compromise going to go? I'd rather he'd move this thing to Malistair 6 instead of Malistair 5 or whatever. And, and that would be better than giving it to to palpatine to dissect, you know? Or you do the King Kong thing, and you build a fake planet for it, and it lives in the fake planet virtual reality box. I don't like...

I haven't seen the King Kong movie you've seen, apparently, so... Isn't that the how King Kong versus Godzilla stars? I haven't seen King Kong. I've not seen the modern King Kong. I have to check it out. Oh, shit, we got to watch that. You didn't see Skull Island? The Nazi Skull Island

I did not see any of that Any of that stuff But it only wore it Like people only like it Because it's quoting better movies Oh Well that the guy who directed it It's Jordan Vaught Roberts right

The Skull Island one He's doing the Gundam movie So I'm That's true Hey then it should be competent Like good news Like you ever wonder what would happen If like somebody really liked

Apocalypse now And they put Gundams in it I think you're gonna find out now I think you're gonna get the answer that question. You're really sally me on this. I like Mace's Mr. Popper's Penguins

solution here to the question of the Zillow Beast which is like we can just put this like you know what the North Pole doesn't have penguins. You know what should have? Penguins. So we're going to take these penguins that you train for your like home circus act. We're just going to put them up there. Are there other creatures living out there? Yes, there are. Could they

also do with some penguins hanging out of their space? Yes. Who doesn't want penguins? If you're a polar bear, you're like, fuck yeah, there's penguins. Is that great for the penguins? It's debatable. But these are clever penguins, and we trust they're going to figure it out. And that's Mace with the Zillow Beast. Uh-huh.

Rob, I just need you to know your particular deep... Your movie references today feel different than the ones you normally would give us, is what I would say. Normally, you were doing, like, deep-cut late 70s, early 80s crime films, and today you've hit Beethoven and Mr. Popper's Penguins. Are you good? I'm great. All right. That'll done them we're good. I mean, like, I think some of the, I think some of the ideas characters have here fit very comfortably into, like, just the overall structure.

I get it. It's a kid's show. It's a kid show treatment of the sensitive material. And so, yeah, we're, like. I mean, I was just thinking about how much he is written Ninja Turtles quotes from 1970s and 80s crime films. And here we are, Clone Wars, quoting from 1990s and 2000s animals. well, family dramas. Family comedies, really, but...

However, Beethoven has drama. Beethoven has so much drama. There's tears shed. Yeah, sure. It's also... So, the other thing that's happening here, though, is that you are seeing... Let's talk about the dogs, just as a group here,

because some of this is going to come up later, but this is not a healthy alliance. And it's also, like, a clear example of... First of all, the whole thing is shot through with, again, like 90s and war on terror era discourse around the United States alliances in the Middle East, which is that you have allies that fundamentally on some level you despise. That these are incredibly powerful privileged people who are utterly reliant on you to uphold their political station in their own territories.

And so the dugs are very much like they are, I think, how a lot of like Gulf princes tend to exist in the popular imagination in this point. They are the oil barons of this world. Literally, that is why this alliance is important, right? They're literally defending a China refinery. Yes, 100%. Yeah, and they also don't want to be conquered by the separatists, but it is very clear they have no military to speak of to stand up against the separatists.

Like, we get a sense of, they have some, like, military technology. But it's not for sort of the, you know, great power conflict that they're caught in the middle of. But the Republic has to, you can see the contradictions here really clearly. The Republic is unwilling to be a straightforward imperial power. They are unwilling to just say, we're here, we're keeping you safe from the separatists, but also now your client state, and our word is law. They want the piece of paper. They want the alliance.

The entire thing here is we're going to win this battle. The dugs are going to sign their little piece of paper saying, this is an alliance, and we have a treaty, and you can station your troops, and you can take our oil. The Republic will do anything to get that piece of paper, including bending over backwards, for what are obviously a bunch of snakes. Like, these are not trustworthy people, and they're very self-interested. And yet the Republic is going to have to just eat whatever terms they hand out because the alternative is to politically marginalize these people at which point you've gone full mask off or in imperial power. And so the entire thing is this like weird fiction of the Republic is there with their army fighting this massive battle on behalf of this technically sovereign group that has a veto power.

Yeah. It's worth saying... I'm curious at the fact that the palace of Malisterre is described as the imperial palace, just to what you're saying, Rob, about it being, like, its own, like, sovereign nation. Like, imperial palace, like, implies that there are... There is imperialism happening. I don't know. Like, it was just, like, at first I was kind of confused,

because I was like, oh, does this mean that they are like a third party? Like they aren't committed to the separatists or to the Republic and they're kind of their own thing? Or are they like a fact, like a true faction with like, you know, conquered planets of their own or something like that? My understanding is that they are not anywhere near the size of the Republic or the separatists in terms of their whole. holdings. My read is that because of their fuel supply, they have an outsized amount of influence in galactic culture or galactic politics. And because of their fuel power, they have not needed to join the Republic in order to

create a sense of statehood for themselves. And to have enough of a military to say like, they don't have enough of a military. to say like they don't have enough military to fight off the separatists or the republic but they do have enough of a military to fight off Honda if Honda came through they would be fine and I think that comes from their wealth

which I think speaks back to Rob's read of them as kind of oil barons you know in our world the thing that I want to hit here is to kind of develop that idea Rob of the Republic not wanting to do it by force or

their desire to do the quote unquote right way it's not just the republic part of what i like about these episodes is that we see that the republic is made up of conflicting positions and that there is a game at play in which the if this trip had been just anakin and and palpatine they would be happy to kill this fucking thing where it is and take the corpse away they would be happy to bomb twice. Like they, they have no issue with any of that stuff. But they, that every, everyone has to play nice and has to work through the treaty formulation because Mace is there as a high representative of the Jedi Council who they don't want to rock the boat with. And Mace has made this a breaking point for the situation. To the degree that when he goes down to investigate

the missing troops, he sends Anakin to go deal with the treaty stuff, which I think is a bad move, by the way, I would not, I would have let Anakin maybe go try to find the clones who were missing and maybe Mace handle some of the treaty negotiation stuff. But I do think that that is an important distinction. And that's a real distinction. That's a distinction we have here because there are plenty of people who would be fine allying openly with the most corrupt, the most, you know, autocratic oil princes in the world, any sort of natural resource, you know, owner in the world, regardless of what their difference in views or politics are.

Again, in this specific case, there is no difference in view or politics, right? If we live in a world in which one of the conversations around Arabic states, which often have a great deal of oil and we're allied with, like Saudi Arabia, is around, oh, the treatment of women. Well, a lot of the people who want to stay allies with Saudi Arabia are also misogynist. right? That is not a distinction between those two types of people. And not just lowercase and misogynist, but like cultural structural misogyny is preferable to them. And so that distinction is mapped pretty well here in that Anakin would happily kill this fucking thing where it stands, if only his lightsaber could have penetrated. And the reason I bring this up is because one of the things that is one of the things that is on display here is Mace's kind

of cultural relativism, which is something we talked a lot about at the time, I think, in the culture during the early days of the war on terror. And I think for a lot of us in my generation was one of the hard things to grapple with in those years. And in some cases still today, the sort of, I think you see a lot of young people who are progressive, politically active, struggling when it comes to the question of what is America's role in a world that has places that do not guarantee everyone the same access to freedom and choice-making and safety according to gender, sex, religion, sexuality, et cetera, right? One of the big questions that I think was had a lot during the first days of the war on

terror here was like, are these places, is Islam specifically a, a relationship, a a religion that can be practiced in a way that is equitable. And the answer, of course, is yes. But at the time, there was so much ink spilled, trying to convince you from, from liberals, liberal mouthpieces. I mean, through today, right, go, go listen to fucking Bill Maher today, still the most Islamophobic, like, liberal there is. That's probably not true. But maybe the one with the loudest loudspeaker, describing, quote, unquote, their way of life, et cetera.

And so here we see Mace pushing down those internal critiques that he has of the Doug and their history. He says all of those kind of common phrases of like, I respect your people and your position and your history and your, you've your way of doing this. We have our way of doing this. And he's doing the dance that I think we often see people who do not feel they can, they can confront the entire. higher thing. Very few Democrats are going to say, we should stop being allies with Saudi Arabia,

right? And so there is this dance that happens. It's like, well, why is it okay for them to do this XYZ thing? And seeing how that stuff gets applied asymmetrically, depending on who you're talking about. The fact that Iran has been historically talked about in different ways than Saudi Arabia by the same people is important and distinct. like is kind of what's happening on screen a little bit here. The ways in which Mace and Anakin both relate to the Duggs, I think, is, is it, maps really neatly to the ways in which liberal Americans talked about this stuff at the top of the war on terror, you know? Yeah. Maybe not neatly, but it, but it maps, you know?

And I think it feels like the Doug we meet. So there's guys out there, there's Doug out there who are, like, fighting on the front lines, like, Calgary and shit. But the guys we meet tend to feel a bit like rulers. They read as political elites. And I think the other thing that you're sort of, that sort of comes to mind is, you know, like there's this tendency to speak in really broad brushes about like, ah, well, the Saudis are this way. I don't know. A lot of what we say would mean is like parts of the Saudi royal family are away. Right.

We mean a particular set of people. And this was sort of the game of decolonization of like, yeah, no, we totally. like respect these folks right to self-determination and here are the people who we have decided are in charge of this Westphalian state that didn't exist before colonization. And now they can sign mineral rights treaties with us as free and independent people. High five. And that's, and you know, so it like, I don't have a strong sense for the Doug as a people. I have a strong sense for the Doge as just a total dirtbag. And even, and there's even little things, too, like, when they're about to drop the bomb, he makes this comment of, like, I hope it doesn't destroy our planet's delicate ecosystem.

And the planet looks fucked. Like, it looks like a moon. But even setting that aside, the dog don't appear to be a species that evolved in that biome. They're walking around a little, like, primate hands and shit. They're all like, they're all there to be like, they look like they're supposed to be living in, like, for. forested regions, and, like, the planet looks like a wasteland. So, like, I don't know if it's intentional, but I look at that, and it's like, yo, these folks might have already, like, for the sake of their development, just

wrecked their planet. And now they're like, oh, man, I hope, I hope we don't upset, like, our beautiful homeworld that we've definitely taken care of, not a tree in sight, right? Like, this is, yes, yeah. Uh-huh. According to the wiki, this is exactly true. It was once a forested world, a heavily forested planet that, you know, they cleared a lot of that land away so they could extract fuel refineries. Yeah.

Yeah. So. Pod racing was a big sport. Oh, pod racing would be a big sport there because fuel is cheap, right? Ooh, true. Yeah. So basically, yeah. That's fun.

All that flat land, too. All that flat land, yeah. Good for pot. And you get all those limbs that were meant to be like grabbing onto branches and you know what they can work. Now you can work, a throttle and weird control sticks. Oh, and that's why they're like, humans can't do this shit. And probably not, because the people who invented the sport are like, look at my many articulated limbs. Yeah.

A hundred percent. So, the bomb gets dropped. And it is, it's a nuke. Like, it's, it might be a nuke that's more, it's more designed for, like, electromagnetic effects. But, like, fundamentally, there is a massive. fireball at the center of this thing, there is a huge shockwave. A lot of things just appear to be obliterated outright. And yeah, you get sort of the double flash of a nuke where like you had the explosion, but then you have the electromagnetic pulse sweeping across this

huge area. And this is what, you know, Allie you're talking about, where you just watch it roll across things and it shuts down the droids. It turns off Republic, you know, tanks in mid-stride and yeah you see like the lightning core like you see the lightning core skating around Anakin's hand a bit as he's reminded uh that there is some commonality between him and the machines that were just disabled uh in this thing and it sort of nose wrinkles at it as as this reminder uh hits home and then they start doing like post-battle assessment and they've blown a giant fucking crater uh in the well at first they're just starting to go through the battlefield and sort of survey the damage.

And then the ground cracks open and a massive sinkhole opens up. Tons of clones are just pulled down into the sinkhole because they're trapped in broken machines. And yeah, so now there's a giant deep chasm still shrouded in dust and mist in the middle of this battlefield. And they got to go figure out what's down there and we're all those clones. and that also turns out to be the resting place of the mighty Zillow Beast Gasp Yeah

So it's strong It blocks lightsaber attacks It is creepy, it's big It's weak to fuel It's weak to fuel Not weak enough, but weak Why would a deep Earth creature

That probably lives in and amongst fuel deposits be so vulnerable to the fuel of said deposits. I don't know. Well, maybe it's like a little bit's a good thing, but a lot is too much. Do you know what I mean?

A lot of people are like dust lights, right? And those are endemic. You know? Sometimes you're just like, oh, I hate being around this stuff. And so the Zillobies. So with the Zillow beast. Is the fuel?

In fact, in fact. is the fuel like the remains of ancient Zillobis is it like Zillobese fossil fuels and that's why it's like fucked up

maybe you know what I'm thinking about it is in episode two it gets sprayed with the like the concentrated poison fuel fart gas

and it's what shakes it loose it wakes up from it Like, obviously she thinks she's killing it, but what if it's just enough to actually supercharge it? And so it's like, rah, and it's out. Yeah. I feel that.

I mean, sometimes you take those first couple hits and you're like, yeah, this is what I'm about. I'm riding high. I'm riding high. Things are good. Gone off that loud. Then you forget about the edible you took way earlier. And you're down for the count for the rest of it. the night. And you're

ruining the party, you know? And that's the Zillow Beast. And that's the Zillow Beast story. So, you Kyla Wren met a Zillow Beast? What? What? Sorry. Don't worry about it. Where? When? Just say that?

Can I call? I'm worried about it now. Yeah, it eats them. That was the end. That's how Kylo Ren dies. Oh, that's too bad. It's in a comic. Wait, so there are more Zillow Beasts? I don't know.

There might be. Yeah, it seems like there are. I googled Zillowbeast today. There was an auto fill that I was like, ooh, okay. Oh, yeah? Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Was it Zillow Beast Kylo Red? That's what I got. It was Zillow beast clone, which makes me feel like there might be a follow-up. Sure, sure. Anyway. When Order 66 came out, it just ate the Jedi Temple. I mean, I would love to see Anakin riding around on a zillobese. Like, that's cool.

I wouldn't like it if it was a cloned zillobese made for being. Like, it would be cooler if they were, like, friends first. Or they were buds, yeah. And then. How did you feel about Anakin riding around on R2D2 trying to escape the zillobese? Love that. Did not love Palpatine riding around on R2. Yeah, not allowed.

Hated that. Not allowed. Hated that. personally. Yeah. Archie should have set him on fire. Like, we've seen him do it multiple times. Just drop him.

Just drop him. Right there. Archie G2 should have saved the Senate clone guy. Yeah, that poor guy was like, you can't hold both of us. And poppies and say, yeah, no problem, bud, bye. So. Hoping on.

Yeah, so there's a whole, like, there's a whole fight with the Zillow Beast in his layer. You know, Mace basically uses Anakin as a decoy while he and the clones get to safety, and Anakin fights this thing and rides out of there with R2. And we get a hilarious, because we're trying to decide what to do with this thing. How do we deal with the Zillow Bees situation? Because the issue is, if this Zillow Beast is on the loose,

it's going to be hard to get this refinery up and running so we can get that sweet, sweet juice. that we came here for. But there's a moment where they're only trying to figure out the Jedi are proposing, like we hit them with these like beam weapons

that will basically slowly like trank this thing. Sleep beams, yeah. But we also see the Dugs when they walk into the tent with the Dugs, the Dugs have a strategy guide diagram. I love it.

It's, yeah. Just this map of the Zillow Bees that they have. It's Straight from IGN Yeah, it's like They went onto the Monster Hunter Rise Wiki and downloaded the

Weekpoint diagram Yeah And the Jedi walk into the room And they're like slam that thing shut Like closing tabs Like what you didn't see shit Is that the bit where they say Out loud

We thought we hunted these things to extinction But I guess not Which is the most like Are we the baddies Shit I've ever heard Well, they needed the oil They needed the oil And they espoused this again

Like it's a deep culturally held belief That is like We were warned by our forefathers That one would come back And we had to be prepared to kill it It's deeply important to us spiritually And it's like yeah I can kind of see that

It's like something about their Like the The Zillabies had hunted their ancestors Before them Or some shit like that which yeah maybe

but also the Jedi immediately jumping to deceit here of being like we'll make them think we killed it is like

I kept waiting for Mace to be like are y'all for real and he just ran with it but Anakin's like I have a plan lying like we're going to lie to them

a bunch and steal this thing from them cool and everyone's like yep sounds good We are going to uphold our moral grounds by performing a giant trick. See, this is the part that doesn't make any sense to, well, I mean, there's so much that makes no sense to me all of the time. But why is there such an obsession with keeping this paper, this like physical paper trail of getting a treaty signed?

And then everyone's just like on board to fucking steal a giant creature from the dugs. You got the paper signs. That paper's more important. But where is that paper going to go? The Senate. And that way the Senate is going to be like, all right, good. Remember the Senate did that shit with Grievous's planet. Whereas I was like, well, the Jedi said everything was cool here.

I don't care about what all the hard evidence of these people being exploited and killed is by this invading force. The paper got signed. The paper got signed. Yeah. They are those motherfuckers, right? Yeah. So I don't know what the repercussions. would be if they didn't have the paper.

I guess the theoretical repercussions of the Jedi would be, would throw a fit. And so, they'd be like, and so Palpatine thinks it's easier. Exactly. Palpatine is like, well, let's not have that right now. I wonder if it's even that.

Instead, give me this juicy beast. I wonder if it's also just an element of, because I look at this, and I'm like, you know, a bit like, God, who is it? Is it Cleon's speech to the Athenians? where he basically says your empire is now a tyranny. And basically, like, it's this really bloodthirsty appeal for rail polity

where it's like we got to stop pretending that this arrangement is what it was when it was first founded. Like, we got to stop pretending these alliances. We are getting all the flack that you get for being an imperial power. We might as well, like, just embrace that role and reap the benefits. And also, like, impose the order. I can't figure out the degree to which. the Jedi and the Republic are just in denial about that, that they still think, like, no, fundamentally everyone wants to be here, and we're not exercising any coercive power at all.

And so deals like this would be anathema of that sort of self-regard. Or if it's a more cynical, like the Republic, its capacity to be an empire runs on that fiction. There's a ton of people who are basically partnered in it who think, well, I'm a member, and I have these rights because these treaties are always honored. And the minute the Republic's like, look, these guys were just a pain in the ass and we didn't want to deal with it anymore. We wanted the oil, we wanted the monster.

Fuck them. Like, everyone else in the Galactic Senate might immediately say, like, well, hold on, that changes the deal. Right. I think that there's something, again, worth remembering, which is like, all of this is new. There didn't used to be an occupying army

for the Republic. There used to be member states that had their own, militaries. We know now a some sort of galactic navy, but not one that was large enough to occupy things in an indefinite period. Not one large enough to, for instance, break the trade federations blockade of Nabu, right? Because in another world where they did have a large navy, they could have broken that, that blockade. What they had was Jedi who went in and got treaty signed. And so I kind of feel like maybe one reading on this is that one of the reason that

Mace is so dedicated to the like, get the fucking paperwork signed. model of diplomacy is that's the old Jedi model you show up you get the paperwork sign that says everything is good here and then every and then tensions decrease because everyone signed the paper and that and that means this is what we work by now maybe it's not fair everyone has signed it right like millions right not the five and ten millions exactly yeah exactly um and like we're seeing the limits of that now in a real way because yeah the paperwork it's signed but like we have the deployment of an untested weapon, we have the devastation of a natural environment, all of these things don't work anymore, despite the paperwork getting signed

in the end, right? So, um, so the, the, the does. Also to be clear, the reason, the reason they want to steal it, I guess, no, I guess at this point, the, the reason they want to, they want to, I said, kidnap, knock it out and take it away, is because Mace has made the case. We can't kill it. It's the principle of the thing. Anakin has tried to be like, this thing's terrible. This thing's a monster. It killed all those people. This is dangerous. What the fuck are we doing? And Mace is like, it's the principle of it. We have to, we can't destroy a unique life form.

Well, not just that. I think Mace also enunciates, we don't know if this is a person. Like, we don't know if it's a, like, sentient, like being with self-awareness and inner life and everything. And that distinction gets real porous. You know what, like, animal versus, like, a sentient being. Like, in this world, probably even more than our reality,

but still, like, these are really porous definitions. But nevertheless, it's clearly a deeply held value of the Jedi where it's like hey this thing might be monstrous to us but it's also a person and so we until we establish the degree to which this is you know monster versus just person we don't understand yet and doesn't understand us it's immoral to just like shoot first and ask questions later um so the dugs are like fuck that we have our we have the diagram of the weak points we're going to go for it um it doesn't go well they're little clay pigeon launchers uh

don't quite get the job done. The Zillow Beast is, you know, fucking them up. Also, the Jedi barely get it done. Their strategy succeeds by the barest skin of its teeth as they slowly, like, it's just a steady damage over time, like, beam attack they're making on this thing while they're just wrecking all their tanks with these sort of sleep guns. And at the last possible second, they get it to fall asleep. and they decide, well, we're going to, like, take this Mesa's plan, take it to the outer rim.

But the properties of its power and the fact that it is resistant to lightsabors, it is when this detail is shared with Palpatine, that he goes from, what do you mean, what's the problem? Animal, if I can kill it. Give me a gun. I'll go take care of it right now. Hang on, hang on, I'm on my way. He goes from that. And instead is like, whoa, hold on.

You said, like, good armor, huh? Lightsabers, Ballsters and the Blasters. Yeah, that's interesting to me. I'm definitely not interested in the lightsaber resistance. I definitely am just, I'm just curious about its armor. We better keep this thing alive at all costs. In fact, let's bring it to Corrassant, which is like one of those, you start, like, trying to sell somebody on a small thing,

and they swing all the way to, like, what if we take the biggest swing possible? Like, don't put it in an outer rim. bring it to Corrassan. And generally like, I don't think that's a good idea either. Like, you're not here. You didn't see what this thing did. And Palpatine's like, it'll be fine. Trust me.

I don't know the Corosan is like particularly well known for its like laboratories or like scientific advancements. Like I, he's access to other spots. Like what? Camino is right there. Like right there. You know they're scientists there and there's a big ocean. Go build a little, you know. And there's a cloning lab.

If you want a cloned long term, you can do it. You know? Sheave ain't on his game today. Yeah. It just seems like... I feel like Sheave wanted it. Shev wanted the seeds of chaos to come to Choruson and see what happened. Maybe.

I get that. That's like, that's classic chaos, Sheave. But I feel like his desire is so clear here. He wants the armor. Yeah, but... So the thing is... the cam and owens are useful to him but they don't he doesn't own them totally i know sorry the point is there are other fucking places oh yeah go anywhere else that is not where you are

you are on chorus on and on the same side apparently maybe he yeah but he he had like a senate thing the next week he couldn't leave the planet but he wanted to see the beast so he's like just bring it through it'll be fine i just want to have eyes on this thing but my schedule's a little tight right now. What he should have done is had Duku intercept it and bring it to a Sith planet where they could do Sith science with it. It's a missed opportunity. It's not like he doesn't have access to these, these, you know, spots where they could do this shit. Right. He could build something right now. He could send like 30,000 clones and start building a base right the fuck now. So I'm saying. Azillo bake.

Base. A zillow bake. Delicious. So yeah, so we go to the next episode and this thing is being brought to Corrassan and we get the very Godzilla arriving in New York shots of like the King Kong, you mean? Yeah, sorry, King Kong. But yeah, you got a lot of shots of exaggerating the scale of like the puny. Like we know these are like large scale, you know, logistical movement. It's Corracea. Yeah, like you got like huge trucks and like, you know. repulsar lifts, you know, bearing this thing up, and it's all dwarfed by the scale of this thing,

that they are putting into this giant, uh, hanger, uh, for, for study. And nobody except Palpatine is happy about this. Um, everybody thinks this is a pretty absurd idea. Because everyone knows, like, this thing gets loose in the city. Like, it's, that's just a disaster. Um, there's, there's no containing that. Um, and Palpatine, is now just like fully in that mode where it's just reflexive at this point where people are like

I have misgivings and it's almost like it's so perfunctory at this point like it's sort of he just like needs to like he's increasing like speed running the things he needs to say to keep the scam going

it's like Bill Murray and Groundhog Day where he's just like yeah yeah we're gonna we're gonna move through these dialogue choices faster Palpatine's just like okay so I know this might seem scary and maybe a bit morally compromised.

But isn't it really the most moral thing possible to end this war as quickly as possible? How many clones are we going to let die waiting for the secrets of the Zillow Beasts' armor? So anyway, shut the fuck up. Democracy is only as strong as the people who defend it. And by that, I mean the people who wear whack armor and need to get better armor.

I did not mean that metaphorically, Padman. I did not mean you. I mean Cody and Rex. Their armor game is weak. Yes. And nobody is concerned at the fact that all of this stems on the fact that the armor is impenetrable by specifically lightsabers. Nah. No one stops to think.

Where is the critical thinking? Did no one do critical thinking? Like, you know, when you have to do your, like, standardized test, you have to read a paragraph and think about it? like when when is that happening for everyone in star wars feels like no one except the fucking zillow beast is zillow beast went to school went to class yeah absolutely the jettis are just not used to the idea of having enemies like even the separatists are enemies but like it's enemies

because the jettis stand with the republic like it's not really a jedi versus separatist thing in that way they're really like just shocked at the idea that anyone might have it in for them And you know historically, like, you know, the Jedi Mandelor War, that's part of their history, right? The conflict that's part of their history. But, like, just as a order, it's like, they haven't got punched in the face where it's personal in a very long time. And they don't know what that looks like or, like, what the wind-up looks like. So they're like, yeah, that's just weird.

He just wants the, hey, if it's good against lightsabers, must be good against lots of things, right? I don't know if that's true. fucking Mace and Obi-Wan even have like a little like head-to-head about it. They're like, Obi-Wan's like, it's really weird that like Palpatine would want

to bring this fucking Godzilla King Kong Kaiju motherfucker back to Corrassant when from all of your accounts on Malister it was pretty fucked up over there. Like that's so weird. And Mace Wendoo's like,

yes. I said this to him while we were there on Malistair without success. And Obi-Wan's like, hmm, maybe someone else should bring it up to Palpatine. Anakin, like. Does he go to Anakin? He goes to Padme to go to Anakin. It's all, yeah. It's fucked up.

He goes to Padme, he goes to Padme, who's obviously going to be like, Okay, Anakin, you come too. And then Anakin blows it with Padmae because he's a terrible fucking husband and it is just... I'm shocked we don't get more Padma, Anakin Sheev's scenes that like this trio, this like nightmare triangle doesn't get deployed on, like on screen together that often. And it's fun to have Anakin be like, uh, um, uh, who am I? This does not compute. I think if we saw them more often, then Padmae would get a divorce. Yeah, fair. Like, the fact that that that whole interaction, we have a beat before then,

which is the Zillobies getting tortured by a chameleon doctor lady. Yeah. Who apparently, I guess, has some moral conscience because she's like, that's enough of the stabbing. Like, please, hold off a little bit. But she also needs that publication at the end of that. Yeah, she absolutely does. You're right, you're right.

And this is the point at which Palpatine tells her, like, all right. She's like, we need to look at the scales to know how their infrastructure is so we can build the clone armor. And Palpatine's like, so do it. And she's like, well, we would need to be really mean to it and cause it a lot of pain and it'd be terrible. And he's like, okay, so do it. I just love the flat responses from Palpatine where he's like, I fail to see the problem. And everyone's like, oh, well, let me explain the problem.

And it's like, so again, like, obviously it would mean causing more pain and maybe kill, uh-huh. When are you going to get for the problem? Is this, do we get it early enough in this episode in that first conversation where she's like, but it would cause pain and I don't know if I should do that. Pelperini is just like fucking kill it. like yeah let's just what's the role over here she's like she's like

I'm pretty sure this is an intelligent creature and he's like animals are fucking idiots and the fucking Villavis is just staring at him like uh hello I'm right here I'm gonna kick your ass and the fucking

doctor lady is like I'm pretty sure it knows that you just said that it's like just an animal and should die and he's like well who do you want to die scientist lady millions of people or this one little lizard which one and she's like okay and then you know starts and you won't do it off when someone will yeah like that's their thing yeah and then for that instance to fire her and she's like ah i need that job

security okay i'll kill it blow the whistle lady i'm not sure with the health insurance yeah i'm not sure the health insurance situation is like on Corrassant. Not sure what these benefits are doing for her, but like, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I don't have much sympathy for her. She should have done something. She should have done something.

I don't need much sympathy for her. She's fine. She leaves this episode fine. So she's still employed at the end of it. Yeah, that's true. I thought she died at one point, but then she showed up at the end. Yeah, I also thought that. Like when her little hover ship gets hit during the torture breakout.

but yeah but anyway the the nightmare trio um this is probably one of the weakest moments for aniken right like just like totally a reed in the wind who spoke last aniken believes them there is an alt-timer um oding yourself in this conversation where like um sheev's side dude is like, Padmae, don't you have more important things to do? And she's like, no, I do not. Like, damn, you kiss is all I had on the calendar today. Well, listen, the next, according to the chronological episode order, which is very weird at this episode for a reason, I'll get to in a second. This supposedly happens after bounty hunters, which we just watched, but before Senate spy, the one with Rush Clovis, where she goes off and, and then the entire, that whole

arc happens. The Brain Invaders arc has not, quote, unquote, happened yet, according to this, which is confusing to me because we get something we've seen in the previous episode in this episode. The big speech from Palpatine on the big board is the speech from mightsaber lost. Yes, I was going to point to that. Which I loved because I just so badly, so, so badly wanted to cutaway or in the bad. we see Asoka chasing after the Torelli and Django jumper. Just like doing her shit and then or like, imagine we were watching that episode in the background, some wild-ass Kaiju.

Like, what's that episode? That's going on right now? Are you kidding? Sunubay is out here trying to solve mysteries and me like, rah, all right, it's happening in the background. They run those people down on the train and like the train derailed by the monster at the end. They're like, damn, we got to, they escape. I do want to make a short aside because you mentioned brain evaders and it has been on my mind like did both Obi-Wan and Anakin call out sick on the like we don't kill endangered species

because like that queen was like maybe the last of her kind I guess she was like involved in the war at that point but like yeah you know I don't know it seems like a contradiction I don't think that they care the way Mace says. Sure. Yeah. Like I think, you know, I think we're seeing different Jedi apply the rules in different ways. Yeah, but I think if Mace was there, Mace might... Mace might also be being petty, which I just realized. He doesn't want any of this to happen.

He doesn't want to drop the EMP grenade or bomb. He doesn't think that... I don't think he thinks much of the Doug, but he's... I don't think he's kind of being a little like... You know, sometimes you grind your feet down on something where you're like, I'm going to make it's just as painful as possible for the other side. Yeah. He could be being petty.

I feel like Mace was, like, had a different assignment, and then last minute got switched to this shit. And he's like, why the fuck am I here? I'm shatter points, man. Like, why am I on Doug Planet? Also, he could have killed that, though. He could have found the shatter point. True.

Why didn't Mace Wind do simply find the shatter point on the zillip? It's called the eyeball. It's the eyeball. That's true. Big ass eyeball. Huge eyeball. That looking right in on power. Zero armor. No armor. That we know about. That we know about. If this was God of war, he would have eyeball killed it. 100%. There's some real shout of the Colossus shit.

All around this. Are we basically there at the big fight, or the big escape sequence? Yeah, the thing bust loose. Yeah. Because it's getting a paradoxical dose of a narcotic. but sometimes if you give a little bit of a depressant you get a high stimulant effect

and that is this thing just gets jacked up it gets jacked it breaks through all of its electrical and material real super shredder

situation yes it is a super super shudder situation knocks the fuck away the hover drone and the ship breaks out I love also I isn't

the leaded to this there's a bit where one of the clones is like this rifle isn't going to do anything What are you talking about? Which I was so happy about. And the other, the other clone was like,

shut the fuck up. Literally tells them to shut up and shoot. I'm really looking forward to like, if we start getting like clone mutinies in later seasons. Please. Because like wars that are this bloody to go this poorly. Eventually you start seeing like entire formations being like, I'm not doing that.

It's time. I know this ain't going to do shit and I'm not going to do it. I'm going to take a strategic bathroom break right now. Goodbye. That's what I would do if I was a clone. That's what you would do if you were climbing. I would go to the bathroom. They definitely have some sort of armor situation for bathroom stuff, right?

I think so. Probably. Astronauts have that in their suits and shit, right? Yeah. For when they're in space. You could be the one cloned with IBS, though. That's true. That would be accurate, so.

I just be like, guys. I gotta go. Sorry. I, this is, you know, you all know this about me. Yeah. Oh, you got the Mark 8 still suit. Okay. I see. I see how it is.

Sorry, ma'am. Let's just let me know what your restrictions are. Yeah. The only, my only complaint about all of the Zillow beast, like, wild, you know, stomping through Khorasan, knocking things around, blowing shit up is no one ever talks about it ever again. As far as I know. If this happened in the real world, we would not shut the fuck up about it. There would be statues. There would be the internet, the Wikipedia on this says that countless, countless people died during this.

And sorry, it was not countless. It was, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, untold numbers of civilians and Coruscanti police forces perished. As the creature seemingly aware of the meaning behind the chancellor's words and potentially even his nature as a servant of the dark side, destroyed every image of Palpatina could find, and marched steadily onward toward the Senate building. It climbs the Senate building. If Godzilla showed up and climbed the White House, I mean, obviously it's way bigger than the White House, we're just stepping the White House. But if that happened, we would not shut up about it. It would be, ever. We, like, there would be statues, there would be T-shirts, there would be, you know, we would all

say special prayers about protecting us from the Zillow. Like, it would be everywhere. Yeah, it would be known as the Zillow Day, yeah. Right, yeah, Z day, exactly. The thing that, like, especially fucks me up about this is, like, what's going to happen on Mala start tomorrow when they watch the news? Right. The one Zillovies is dead fucking tore apart Khorasan. How did that happen? I feel good.

There's a great phone call, like, the next day between, like, Yoda and one of the, like, one of the, like, one of the doges. The doge. Yeah. Crazy it is, we have one, too. Know this, we did not. Different Zillow, it was. For the questions, I will not take. We got one of the best fucking Yoda lines in this episode,

which was desperately needed the tanks are. I would keep appreciated the like anikin has a plan thing and uh as like what's the plan he's like i don't know i'm improvising and then mace is like how can it be a plan if he's improvising everyone's just here to own an aniken today good this was like an all-timer aniken and padmay are not shit episode for me like the the point when the zillope escapes and is still miles away from the senate building and she's like yeah evacuate the staff like you don't have the jurisdiction to like

about the rest of Khorasan because you're not in the like laboratory district where like people in the street are dying and then there's another there's another beat with like Obi-Wan saying something like snide to Anakin on the phone of being like wish you were here and Anakin's like smirking about it's like so many people are dying people are untold and they take so long to leave the building like they're just like watching this shit go down through the fucking window. They're like, damn, that's too bad. I will say

this. I would have a real hard time being pulled away from that window if this thing is. You know what I would have gotten the fuck? Are you kidding me? I'm with the guy that this fucking dude hates. I'm out of there. I don't know that yet. You know, I think for me when I'm like, but this is the other thing.

When I think climbs the building and stares through the window and like locks eyes with Palpatine, that would make me go like, huh. that's weird y'all know we jump yeah yeah yeah yeah this thing was just thoughtlessly

like just from moving from point A to point B this is how it destroys most of the city it's just like just running through to get to this guy but it slows down and like starts getting real deliberate when it's like where's Palpatine

and that probably made me go like hey what's up like do you why's this thing got it why's this thing got his hate on for you man God. It's so funny. And I, yeah, I love that Yoda and Ayla Secura are, they're like, we got to distract this thing. So we're going to shadow Colossus climb around its back.

It's great. Visually, it's awesome. Like, they don't accomplish shit, but it is, it is so cool watching the two Jedi. We're trying, you know? Like, basically, like, navigating this landscape of the creatures back and just the lighting and the way like there's these two tiny little figures you know lit by their own lightsabers I love it

it looks sensational and then I think this episode gets incredibly sad like I'm pulling for the I'm pulling for the Zillow Beast to get that fucker so badly I'm like yeah let the Zillow beast get justice you know the best outcome would be that a monster

of Palpatine's own creations or Palpatine's own hubris a creation of Palpatine's own hubris kills him in a way that leaves everybody else's hands free of repercussions, which is eventually what kills Palpatine. So it all works out in the end eventually, but yeah,

I'm seriously ruining Zillow Beast here. Just do, like, I know the Zillowice is going to win, but I want to tell you do damage and get away somehow. I want to be like, in my heart of hearts is like, it got into the sewer system

where like it went below the fog line, the smoke line. We've lost it in the, in the depths of Khorasan. It's just there now. And then it's just that lurking, that lurking danger. forever.

But I like the ending we got instead at the same time. I did not like hearing palpatine palpatine. Palpatine. Shee palpitaine.

I did not like hearing she palpatine say I've got a bad feeling about this. I feel like if there's anyone is a show

that should never be allowed to fucking say that it's fucking sheave. True. I agree. And Mace used it last episode. You did it twice in a row. As he's walking on the monster. Like, there's no bad feeling. You're on a fucking, fucking large

Godzilla shit right now. You don't have a bad feeling. You have a bad knowing of what the fuck you're on. Stop using this stupid ass phrase. Please. I'm sick of hearing it. I'm fucking done. Every time I hear that shit, I take a note and I say,

fuck this show. Fuck Bad feelings. I hate it. I hate it. And then Palpatine did it. And I was like, I almost threw my notebook away. I was just done. Like you can't give it to that guy.

You can't. Okay, if you're going to put it in every fucking episode, fine. Because you want to say your little thing. That's fine. But you can't give it to him. He's the one fucking guy. Can I tell you something good? maybe. I just checked

according to Wikipedia it only gets to use two more times in all of Clone Wars. In all of Clone Wars? They used it like six times. They went cold turkey. Somebody in that writer's room just gave that same speech. But it's very funny. This is like I want to say a snapshot of this moment

like Natalie Watson. We are not yet through two seasons of Clone Wars and we've arrived at this moment. Two of seven. We are not even like 20 percent of the way complete. And it's just like the unraveling. I cannot

believe that they used it for two straight seasons and we're only getting... Well, you know what? Fine. That makes me happy, I guess. So it means there's a you in the writer's room. Yeah. And like, because it's one use next season and one use

the season after that and it's done. And so someone absolutely had the same rant you just did and was like, stop it. fucking stuff. Paul Dini's in that room, just like, don't ever say that again in my presence. And they're right for saying it. So I'm glad that my feelings were known by, you know,

good. I'm glad I time traveled to the past and changed the course of Clone Wars. I'm kind of shaken, though. They only use it two more times. Now I'm already missing it. I'm like, wow, but they're really going to say it anymore. Don't say that.

Also, maybe this list is wrong. Maybe this list is wrong. Maybe it's incomplete last. I don't have faith. Last Jedi is the first Star Wars film to not feature, I have a bad feeling about this, spoken in Galactic Basic Standard. However, the film's director, Ryan Johnson, confirmed that the line is in the film, and that it's spoken by BB8 during the opening battle sequence. Sure, I believe Ryan Johnson. He's like, yeah, it's in there, definitely.

Wouldn't be a Star Wars movie without iconic line. That's why this robot that nobody can fucking understand says it. Ah, we'd love to hear it. Too bad. We do not speak BB8. All right, JJ. I teed it up for you. Close it out, big guy.

This can't be real. Sorry, I clicked on the talk page on the I have a bad feeling about this page in Wikipedia. And first of all, someone unsigned here said, did this quote, so did this quote originate from Star Wars? It's like, you know, I can imagine. I have a bad feeling about it. No, it's an American graffiti. Yep. Uh-huh.

It's a callback. There had been a pair, okay, so I guess from part of this is, I have a bad feeling about this, Noah. There's a list on this page of non-Star Wars appearances that include other Lucasfilings. projects, which is lots of Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones says this a lot, obviously, because it's also on so, or as Harrison Ford. And according to Moth Rebus in 2008, the sentence was originally intended for the Indiana Jones series. However, it was later decided that Indiana would be more of a loner, and he would have nobody to hear him saying such a sentence, and the sentence was reused in the Star Wars series. Notice that the second and third installments of Indiana

Jones series provide Indy with some partners to whom he could have said the sentence, but this was not known until the second movie was written. I don't know that I believe this. I don't know that I believe this. It's set in Indiana Jones? It's set in... In the first one? It seems like it's set in the later films.

I have to check the script, and I'm not going to do that. No, it isn't, but they're saying it was intended as if, like, Lucas had written it down for Indiana Jones to begin with. I found it. Oh, you've got to be fucking kidding me Yeah Nope Are you a link I put a link in general

Yeah, oh no It's in all those movies Yeah, I don't have to Yes, it's in all those movies Like it's in It's certainly in Temple and in Last Crusade I guess I don't know if it's in Because again in Raiders he is kind of a loner

Mothoribis is right Wait so it is star character, right? Moth Rebus? Yeah, sounds like it. Isn't that one of the... Wait. Yeah, this is true. Max Rebo is the little elephant dude in the band. You're a thing about Max Rebo, but there is a moth named Rebus who is a comic character.

It looks... Oh, wait. Rob is from Dark Forces. Moth Rebus? Moth Rebus is from Dark Forces, and he looks like a fucking... Oh, the video game. The video game. Yeah, okay, I got you.

I knew it. Okay. What's up? Hi. So, okay. So at Disneyland, in the Indiana Jones ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He says it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He says it. He says it. When the big boulder starts coming down, he fucking says it. He said, I got her bad feeling. Oh, my God.

Also, Austin, that screenshot is from the worst level of Dark Forces. I believe you. That is the sewer level. like literally the game has two really good levels back to back and you're like yeah now we're cooking and it's like sewer time and uh it sounds not fun to me just have navigate the sewer uh at the end i've not played through that whole game in a long time you you meet this guy and he sucks anyway speaking of things that suck uh they gas the zillibis to death um and it's really depressing it's miserable like i have a bad feeling about this it sucks it sucks like they hit it with the first rounds

starts to take, they start gassing it more, it's losing energy, and it's starting to clearly suffer and in pain, it is lashing out, but it is becoming ever weakened as they continue to carpet bomb, like a part of course on it with these chemical weapons to kill this thing. And eventually, it just gives up the ghost, and it tumbles to its death down the side of the building and closes its eyes and is. no more. And while this is happening, there's a shot, and I think it's a really good one of Obi-Wan and Mace are in one of the shoppers with the door open watching this all unfold. And they have that look of like, you know how sometimes you realize you fall in with a bad

crowd? Like you are in a place with people that you should not be with doing a thing you should not be doing um and that's kind of the vibe they have where the where it's got this there's kind of this heaviness to it of like this is not this is not jedi shit right this or it shouldn't yeah um and it's kind of stomach turning and it's clearly like one of those moments where the sense of moral compromise of moral degradation around the order is like palpable um yeah yeah it's it's terrible it's really sad. I wish they would have just fed him. Fed him.

Cappetting. Oh. Dugs, too. And then you get the shot of its corpse on the fucking transport like being just rolled away. It's

so deeply it's just so unnecessary. Like none of this was valuable in in any way shape or form like this didn't like lead well i guess we'll see what happens based on the ending of this episode but like none of this is really changing the course of the show in any significant way whether that's like a character for like a character or for like a larger plot or whatever like it's just

it it's like a two episode insert of this like godzilla king kong creature and then it's and then it's gone and like I just don't understand the value of it oh it as episodes or as just as no more like within the fiction not like as episodes I get well I mean yeah yeah yeah the lack of value produced is the point is the value as fiction right right but yeah but it's like they fucking go

it has no resonance through the story as far as we can tell yet maybe it will. Maybe in a later season it's going to be like, you know, nothing's been on the same on Correscent since Z day or something. Maybe we'll get there. Yeah, I doubt it. I do doubt it. I think that it's a short, you know, metaphor for, you know, it's a story we've seen a lot of, which is how does the Republic in pursuit of power, you know, begin to crumble away from its ideals and often specifically around the exploitation of natural resources and other shit, and here it is again. Well, and we do know that, like, this is a show that loves to quote other works from things that have inspired in.

So, like, they clearly wanted to make a giant monster movie that has the same sort of parable messes, but it's a parable tuned to Star Wars. But for me, I think if I had to say, like, what is the value of this? For me, I think it is that shot of Mace and Obi-One. Like, there is a, like, there is a, it's a very sad story. At the end of it, I come out of it being like, oh, these characters are damned in a way. Like, I think it's a lot of times you can look at these things and you say, well, it's all contingent. How could it have gone differently? How could this have turned out better?

But I think one of the things that this shows on making clear is that in a lot of ways, you would have needed them to be different people, stronger people, better people. And Mace and Obie Wan or not, you'd expect them to be. We've seen them be better than this. We've seen them be more heroic than this. We've seen Mace have, like, incredible physical courage. and prowess as he like leads a clone assault force into a fortress but here at like this is like this is kind of the thing right like the Jedi order's conception of itself is like yeah the lore the lax speaks for the trees but we got the laurxes back we'll if you don't listen we'll speak

for the laurax that's how they kind of conceive of themselves and here they were just like fuck it yeah you want to take it to corsont and experiment on it for armor sure uh oh went bad um let's drop the nerve agent into corassan and like torture this thing to death god knows what's going to do the people live below this shed um but like they're up to their eyeballs in it and so at the end of it it's like it's for me it's like kind of it's not a huge watershed moment i think the episode is it's kind of a it's kind of a one-off like monster of the week type of event but on the other hand like by the end of it it's like

you would have expected these guys to rise to an occasion like this better and they're completely failure to do yeah yeah mace could have said no

he could have said if you can do you want to do it I'm not going to be part of it I'm not going to help you do this I'm not going to be part of it Godspeed to you Anakin but no

and I'm going to go talk to the council about this I disagree with this we're not taking this thing away we're not signing this treaty and refuse to why does no one disagree

like why aren't there more instances where within the Jedi Council people like there are we don't get enough like I guess we get like sometimes a little bit of debate but it doesn't escalate to a standstill ever like it doesn't we never reach an impasse within like the Jedi Council it's always like a voiced opinion as the plans sort of being made and it doesn't really go much further than that Yeah. And the stories that we've seen so far, or the focal point of these first few seasons, seems to be largely what the focal point of the prequels is, which is these are people who are afraid of losing their power and who are compromising their principles in order to maintain their power with an administration that they can't quite sense its true motives, which is all a very obvious, again, like, clear analogy for all of the Democrats who happily, you know, let. the Bush and Cheney administration pursue policies domestic and overseas that were harmful to the entire world and deeply selfish and motivated by greed and and who like were too afraid that they

were fundamentally aligned even if they may have disagreed about particulars that there is a there's a specific kind of class of folks who should have been the professional opposition and instead found themselves swayed to be in alignment with a corrupt administration, and also fundamentally agents of an empire, right? Like, the Jedi are fundamentally agents of an empire. They don't necessarily know that about themselves. They've not thought critically about that. But I think the reason that we haven't seen that yet is because the story at this point

is still largely about showing us that, that that is the truth. And, like, we're all adults who've been having these conversations for years. understand all of this. It is a kid's show, which is to say, I'm not surprised they're hitting us over the head with this shit over and over again. Yeah. I think part of the thing I like about this is that my anticipated ending was a happy outcome was that for the 14-year-olds watching this, the 12-year-olds watching this, the Zillow Beast

gets to escape to a natural habitat. The lesson is that you respect life and you put it somewhere else. And instead the lesson is actually sometimes the people in power don't respect life. And if they've seen King Kong, they know that that's a story that gets told. But that it ends on that and not the sometimes more palatable, we became friends with the Godzilla. And Godzilla is going to help us maintain our way of life by fighting. Like, there's another version of this where like there's an evil zillow beast and the good zillow beast fights the evil zillow beast. And now we live in harmony.

It's like, nah, the republic does not get to live in harmony with things. The Republic stomps on things, and those in power want to use those things to their benefit, and the few people who could stop it refuse to rise to the occasion, and that is the lesson of this. I mean, you know, the real lesson, of course, is the most dangerous beast is the beast within. But the beast within is Palpatine. It is the Jedi Order. I mean, I feel like the interesting thing of this arc, especially in the second episode, is like how quickly and how seamlessly Palpatine's goals. become the Jedi's goals and like it isn't addressed it isn't pushed back upon where it's like

oh the thing that I want to do is kill this thing and then it escapes and then everybody is like oh the thing that we have to do is kill this thing and there's no there's nothing there yeah there's no that's like that's what kind of boggles my mind is that there's not more like the Jedi council doesn't stand on its own like often it will like it will sort of um kind of position itself as like its own faction with its own motivations and like oh we're here on representing like that one episode we watched recently where they were like oh this is Jedi council business this is not Republic business or whatever like they often will posture like they have their own you know motivations and etc but when it comes to anything that has

to do with interacting with the Senate Republic slash Palpatine like there isn't any debate there there isn't there you don't see conflicting motivations in a in a big way or just like conflicting opinions like it happens on such a small

scale but the ultimate outcome is always going to be in favor of Palpatine this is the Padmae Anakin thing again right yeah it is I was like they can't because we know that in Rend to the Sith Mace doesn't trust

Mace and Yoda don't trust Palpatine but they haven't taken the action yet and they're only at the very beginnings of their distrust of Palpatine to the degree that they would finally put a spy and the worst possible spy in his office with Anakin and so it's like I think maybe

one way to think about an episode like this is hey where do those ideas first start to form and it's them seeing something like this and you have to imagine Mace is now walking around being like I don't know about this palat I know his approval numbers are through the fucking roof, and he always says the right words,

but I do not trust this motherfucker. But it doesn't even have to be him. Like, that's, that's the, that's the strength of the show, is that you can have a new Jedi, like some rando, that isn't in Revenge of the Sin. I mean, it's Asoka. That's go, this is, we're talking about what has to. I know, but we were describing the story that they have to be writing for Asoka

over the next six seasons, right? Like, maybe I'm wrong, and that isn't, Asoka doesn't get wind of this shit and doesn't become, like, distraught and become a lone Jedi. I don't, but that's, and we're talking about stuff that, like, we see her in Mandalorian. We know that there is, like, Asoka continues to be a person out there. And so my, my expectation is that we get some sort of Asoka split from Anakin, some sort of, like, I realize some dark shit is going on. And here is how it's... Maybe I'm completely wrong about that. But I...

I mean, they're already doing it within the clones. Like, we know that that's going to be... Totally. We deserter and stuff. Like, yeah, that's... We know that that's going to be a big part of seasons going forward. We've seen glimpses of, like, clone defectors, dissent, like, challenging orders, things like that. And I just, like, they have the opportunity to, like, ask these bigger questions with the Jedi themselves and they're just not really doing it that much yet.

I think something else is because the show is going to be sort of compressed in some weird ways, like remember, the show is also going to have the opportunity in its end game to get the Jedi to where we meet them in Revenge of the Sith, which is they have completely started to suspect that something is rotten in the state of Denmark, right? Like, it is a very short walk for them in Revenge of the Sith to think, like, Palpatine, the call's coming from inside the house. Like, Palpatine is now a danger to us. And that's before they know he's a Sith.

Like, just on the political merits, they're starting to think, like, we might need to take this guy out. Like, when there's, like, clear, like, assassination threat in the air, like, in Revenge of the Sef. So we're probably going to get a couple seasons of watching these characters start crossing the various personal rubicons than they're getting get them to that point where they're having like conversations on the sides in the Senate building being like, we got to do something about this guy. That's going to hit different moments but I think we're going to get some of those

moments of internal debate and dissent. I think the other thing that makes this weird is that the chronology of the show is so bonkers. Like where this falls, there are so many things where it's like they've dropped a rock into a pond, but the way the show

is structured, they don't show the ripples until a completely different stage of the show. And so you don't have the sense of causality that sometimes it feels like you should have where it's like, you know, hey, these characters should remember how fucked up this got. And the next episode, they don't.

And that could be because the episode's just doing a concept thing, or it could be because this episode we're back to Christophis again. And God knows when this is taking place. Right. We are thankfully very close to being done with any sort of flash-forward flashback stuff. In fact, I'm looking, and I think we're basically,

like there's a little bit in three, but the next few all happen in the order that they're supposed to. There is, yeah, we basically, it looks like there's some stuff. The beginning of three has some flashback stuff that would have happened earlier, but by mid-season three, it's all straightforward and any timeline stuff gets, gets shaken out. I think, I think, you know, Natalie, I think we probably just have different expectations in terms of pacing, which is that like there's 90 more episodes of the show. And for me, I expect 70 of them to quote unquote not matter to be one-offs.

I just don't. I don't know. It's not about being right. You can want a different thing from the show. Do you know what I mean? like think about a show where like Riverdale where every episode has more forward momentum than most shows seasons have where like the the state of play in that show for instance changes every episode and from that show if it stopped doing that I would stop watching that show that's what I love from that show whereas here I my expectation is for the state of play to barely change in the course of the entire run and to and to mostly change in arcs that signal that they're big arcs that do the sort of like hey all of our main players are here here is where we're going to get a little bit of something else

and so if Asoka's not there I'm like oh this is a side story do you know what I mean if if if we're dealing with a send up of a major movie franchise which by the way it's weird to me that we why didn't Shirohanda the director of Godzilla

get a shout out at the beginning of this episode when he was dead also dead You know, for decades like Kurosawa, I don't know. But those episodes to me, I go in expecting a meditation on a theme or an exploration of a genre and not expecting long-term story development. And, but I do get the abrasiveness of them walking up to the line. So I don't want to be clear that I'm not just missing that perspective,

that I don't think that I don't understand where you're coming from with that. And in fact, and in fact, I would probably like this. show that you're talking about more, I just don't expect, I don't have it, I don't think they have it in them, or I don't think that they have the leash to do it. Right. I wish that we had Clone Wars as A.U, where everything was up in the air and they could have done whatever they wanted, but instead, it is always going to be the filler between these two, these two spaces.

However, Natalie, the show you want does exist. It's called Legend of Galactic Heroes. It is called Legend of Galactic Heroes. You're like, why don't these characters talk about this? Well, let me tell you about a show. Imagine a show where every time you're like, that seems fucked up and worth talking about, there will be an episode where people talk about it at length from multiple angles.

Uh-huh. That sounds fucking good as hell. Uh-huh. I mean, I guess I'm not like disappointed. Like, my expectations for the show are that it's going to be the show that it is. I think my desire is to be surprised. Like, that is kind of where I'm at. Like, I don't, I'm not disappointed when, like, for example, in these episodes that

nobody is explicitly walking around talking about, like, damn, that's fucked up, this is fucked up. I mean, they kind of are, mostly throughout the episode, but, like, not in, you know, a big substantial way of, like, taking a stand against anything. And, like, that would be a surprise. The show that we got is the expectation. And it was well executed. And then there's, like, the disappointment where it's, like, you get fucking nothing.

Or it's just, like, some, like, Rando Jar Jar Jar's fucking episode that, like. We've seen Jar Jar Jar in so long. The Randolph Jar Jar Jar Jar Jarz had the most potential for surprise, because secretly they're like, it's like, damn, this thing is a piece of shit, but it's kind of good. You know, you're not wrong. But I guess it is also hard for me to keep in mind how many more seasons we have to go. Like it, when I'm watching it, I'm not really aware of the, because everything feels so close to Revent of the Sith. Like, it feels like we're not chronologically that far away from those events. So I'm always like, we've, we're not, like, we're getting so close.

like what else, like we need to start establishing this shit. And I'm like, no, we have like a billion episodes left. It's going to be fine. But I just don't, I think when I'm in the moment and when I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking about like the end of this, the end of the episode, and then I think about the next thing being Revenge of the Sith. And like, I need to just create more space between those for myself and my brain. The show also needs to figure that out, though.

I think this is a really unset, like the show is taking a tough hand. and it's not always playing it the best. Like, when I'm talking about, like, they need to get the Jedi out of the place where they're contemplating the Palpatine's the enemy. They also need to get Palpatine

to the place where he's like, you know what I should do? Arrange my own kidnapping by the separatist flee and, basically, cash out this entire war effort I've created. Like, the show is,

all its pillars are these really transitional moments in the broader story. And the nature of the show is like it has to somehow hold that transitional moment in place, contain all its energy, but make it increasingly load-bearing. Like I think this is why

we have the same conversation about Anakin and Padmay so often. It's like their relationship is unstable. It is founded on them not knowing each other very well, not seeing a lot of things about each other. It is founded on like an attraction but also like a concern. If any of these things are addressed

and like the characters begin drilling into them, that transitional state ends. Like, these are characters that, like, for us to have any regard for them, you need like Padmaid to be realized, like, hey, this guy's not right. Like, not right for me, but also he's just not right with himself. Like, he is not well. Or you need

Anakin to start realizing, like, I have done horrible things and I haven't, like, copped. Like, there's things that would have to evolve or change. There are things that would resonate. But they have to hold them. Yeah. And you need to hold them in that place. Yeah. So you can

get that conversation, the landing ramp, her ship on Mustafar where it's like, what? And seven seasons of like preventing these characters from going, what? When they do something fucked up or when they see something fucked up. Right.

And I actually think this reminds me, a thing that you said, Natalie, briefly earlier, that made me think about my own history with Star Wars was the it doesn't have to be these characters, you said. It doesn't have to be Mace Windu, you said. And like, this speaks a lot to when I was a kid and

falling in love with Star Wars, so many of the stories I wanted to tell were not about Luke, or Reed, we're not about Luke Skywalker or Hans Solo. They're about bit small characters. The reason why I found myself so pulled to the bounty hunters where nothing was said about them was, because they could say shit that I knew the main characters couldn't say. They could go to parts of the world that the main characters never went to. And when I saw more and more of that stuff, that end up being, those characters could do the things, could have the stories told that diverged from what that main concept was. And so I think in some ways, the answer to this, and it's the answer that I do partly

because I've watched beyond this and partially because not recently, but when I first watched the series years and years ago, I watched a little bit past this, and partially because I just had spoiled over the years, is that that is what this starts to do. We've talked a lot about, like, oh, there's a Dathamere arc that's tied to the witches of Dathamere. I know for a fact that there are two to three other major antagonists we have not met yet. We even started to see that, right, with the Death Watch and the Mandelor stuff, right? And so as my hope is, because this stuff is so frozen in, I guess, carbonite for Star Wars, it's not going to move. What we need instead are these other narrative battlefields where the

outcomes are up in the air. And what we know that the core outcome, You know, ironically, they've called this the Clone Wars. We know how the Clone Wars go. That's not going to be what the stakes are that move us in that sort of storytelling. And instead, and like, we know that, for instance, the stakes for Obi-Wan are not going to be about Satin in the long-in in the longest of long runs. Right. You know, we know that he does not. We know where he ends up.

We know he ends up on Tatine, right? But when they start to introduce a new, I don't know what happens to Satine. I don't know what happens to Bethwatch and Pre-Visla. Like, I don't know how the Dark Saber gets to where it gets to. eventually in Mandalorian. And so those stories, those spaces, I think, do still have the sense. It's like the, if the plot is a thing that has to get from point A to point B, and we know what that plot is, one answer is to make that journey really exciting and interesting and to show different perspectives. Another is to introduce a plot from C to D and make that plot really

interesting. And so I think as they start to layer in the C to D plot, the E to F plot, the G to H plot, which I know is coming, I hope that that ends up producing some of that surprise that you desire, even if the expectation is perfectly well in check. It's just taking them a while to get there. It really is. Like, I think that you're right. But I'm hoping that we, I, we're, Dathamira's next season. I don't remember that arc particularly well, but I know that it has to do with, with Venturous.

And so, like, I'm excited to see that those stakes will mean something in a different way because that stuff is not pre-written, you know? I think we've just been in a mode with just our, like, main cast for, like, a little while now where it's, like, okay, we've spent too much time with these people. It's getting to a threshold. Like, we have to move away from them. Otherwise, like, we're accelerating too forward. And then it feels stagnant. Then it feels, like, nothing's developing. And that's why I'm like, okay, so bring some rando character in that can say the shit that no one else.

can, like just do that thing and it'll be good and you're getting the fucking message across that you want to without having to say it through Mace Windu or Obi-Wan through like these very, very vague like, you know, throwaway statements that, you know, you can spend however long you want to read into, but realistically they don't have the implication until much, much later. Yeah. Right. I feel like it makes sense that we're feeling this sort of frustration right now too because

like the majority of people that I know that are familiar with this series and really like it skip the two seasons, the first two seasons. So like we are on the cusp of like this shit really starting to take off and we're still like in the muck of like getting through it. Yeah. And we're still having a good time. Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, it could be if this show needs a new energy. Perhaps in the form of a young bounty hunter, the mysterious house, the garage against the Jedi. Before we finish out the Zillow Beast arc, there are two things that we skipped over that I think are important establishments that I just want to talk about. First of which is that we get like a dual romantic fall check. Padme and Anakin have like a fall thing and then C3PO and R2D2 do. And I just want to say that I'm glad that the camera agrees with me that C3PO and R2 have a more loving and healthy domestic partnership than Panic and Adme do. Um, the actual important thing, though, is that we see... I have to say, though, C3PO landed flat on his fucking back on the floor in that moment.

And like a fucking rock just like slammed to the ground. I mean, he got back up. He was fine. He's a robot, but... They were there for each other. Um, the other thing that's actually interesting is that we see a Senate, um, we see a Senate guard use a clone voice, like specifically the clone voice actor. Oh, I miss this. is the guy who gets killed there.

And I was like, what the, is this happening now? Oh, shit. Yeah. Like they're keeping the organization and the uniforms, but like now it's clones. Yeah. But now it's clones. That's fascinating. Yeah.

Yeah. Keeping the form of the thing. I mean, that's kind of where we landed at the end of last, the last episode we did, of like this sort of changing of the guard, like moving out clone. are moving out like the old guard of like regular citizens and like bringing in clones. So if that's actually, I totally miss that moment. So it's, that's actually starting to happen. That's kind of crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. I have two tiny, I guess two and a half tiny trivia things that I'm saying out loud so that people don't feel the need to write them in and tell us. There's a lot of, there's a couple other Godzilla things. Uh-huh. One is that the tactical droid that is commanding the forces on Malistair has an icon of the Oxygen Destroyer on it. The Oxygen Destroyer is the weapon used to kill Godzilla at the end of the original film. And then the two bombers who could go to drop the, whatever, the EMP thing on the planet to kill all the droids in that first episode, have are named go-domers.

and Rod, and that's Rod for Rodan, and that's the one that has, like, Teradons on its, on its, on its, on their, on his helmet, and Goji has the lizard face, the Godzilla face, the Gojura face. And so those are very explicit, yeah, Godzilla references. That makes sense. They should have dedicated in this episode then. Come on, guys. This is what I'm saying. If you're, if you're sending a love letter to Kurosawa that he didn't ask for and would not have appreciated, then you can at least. the other very important thing is we have more cone art and more nose art on the on the front of one of these gunships here it is close bros it's not close bros wow i don't know what this says but it is a clone high kicking a nemoidean

in the fucking ass oh so that's that new gun ray that's a it's new gun ray getting kicked yeah yeah that was an entire genre post-in-war too right where it's like kick uh kick hitler in the ass, you know, kicktojo in the ass. It's this exact thing. Yep. Oh, do you know what it says? It's incredible. You can kind of see it. What do you think the top two middle letters are? Oh, oh.

Oh, oh. Okay. What do you think the far right one is? Who do a crossword game? W. I could see that. No, it's not what you think it is. It's a play on, it's flip something upside down. it's a T I want to give you a T that says

so the top one is blank oot and then the bottom one do you see any letters that you think you might know what they are okay so it's much harder

you it's boot boot boot oh gun ray boot gun ray boot gun ray yeah boot gun ray

boot gun ray owned instead of newt gun ray extremely also the fact they turned them into a Kupa for this nose eyes. He does.

Just great. They also made him extremely caked up. Yeah, he's throwing a bat. His ass is all the way up here, all the way back. It's from kicking. It's from the kicking.

Well, and the clones gave themselves a lot of leg. It's true. It's true. All right, so. Next time. What are we doing? What about a family of a season?

What's this? We're closing out this season. That's correct. We got Death Trout. You've got R2 come home. Uh-oh. And, yeah, I don't know. You know, a little reference maybe.

A little, you know. Oh, God. Maybe it's like E.T. Phone home, you know? Phone home. I've never seen E.T. So I won't get any of the references. So I will be safe.

You've never seen E. No, I've never seen E.T. I never seen that many times. Like, I remember being, as a. kid if he scared me when he arrived and also I found the movie Oh you mean the actual movie sad

movie sad movie sad I've heard that And then we're going to be closing it out with lethal trackdown And lethal trackdown That's gonna that's gonna do it for the season That feels like a fake action move action

Right like an 80s That was straight straight to VHS straight to VHS Yeah I got that from the from the rental section of my grocery store. You know what I mean? That was not even...

That was on the riot aid kiosz. Oh, God. Yeah, so we are going to wrap that up on our next episode. I think that's going to... Let's be going up, what, the eighth, I want to say?

Today, so this next one goes up. Yeah, I think that's correct, yes. Yeah. It'll go up the eighth. So we will not have the first we're taking off, and then I guess we're also then going to take off. Well, the first

is a regular break. Right, right, correct. The first is just our regular, we're a bi-weekly podcast. It is the 22nd we are going to skip a week. We're going to be taking a little break because that is going, yeah, that's going to fall, like, Austin is changing roles.

I'm changing, yes. So MK and I are getting married. So there's like a bunch of stuff happening and because of the delay on production for this, it's all going to work out really well if we skip the 22nd and it'll make life way easier. that's so exciting oh it's very exciting let me tell you let me i've heard mina mina might wear a bow um so we bought a special harness and leash for mina uh so that she can clean up nicely for the for the photos and yeah and i have bought for the first time of my life

a tailored suit um wow it is first and only one probably of my life uh a tailored suit so we will we will see uh oh my god i'm so excited yes the leash and harness came with a bow tie for meena um critical stuff i was like if we're doing this yeah she needs to show up yeah absolutely um so yeah so we're going to be taking the the 22nd off um but we will be i think doing the Q&A as normal uh on the 29th and that will cover uh this episode, the end of the season, and just general comments about, like, the arc we've seen of the second season. And then in October, we'll be getting into the season three.

And the adventure will continue. Cannot wait. Cannot wait. Yeah. Thank you for sticking with us during any rockiness here in terms of episode release stuff. Everyone's been super busy, and now it's, you know, I think we, I think truly we deserve a little bit of a breathing room as, as the busy this peaks for many of us. Yes.

It's so weird to think that we started doing this year. I know. I know. Here we are. Through two seasons. Almost. Let's see you do this next one first. Seven months.

Or eight months. Yeah. We got this. And of course, if you've enjoyed what we do and you want to hear the Q&A episodes, check us out on patreon.com slash civilized. They'll give you access to all our Q&As, and they are, they're good listens, and I think increasingly they're weird listens. And so I think if you are a certain type of Star Wars nerd or want to hear us be a certain type of Star Wars nerd, you know, the Patreon Q&As might be even more exactly what you're looking for. So that's my sales pitch.

That will do it for this week's episode. uh we'll see you next time as we close out season two on a more civilized age until then we can rebuild that zillow beast car even mention that oh yeah they're cloning the zillow she wants to clones oh yeah they're fucking cloning it but like okay but wait but like they killed the thing they could get all of the arbor for it i know it's fine zillow beast too i guess she was like well we're going to develop the new armor and then we're going to need more like no she's just messy that's he wants to ride it she didn't get a chance to ride it he wants to ride it around he saw you to ride it it was like what

he's like wow that thing really fucked up an entire city and the jet like couldn't even handle it cool i want one i want five he definitely has this like excitement on his face in that last panel that's like yeah i'm i'm gonna have another one of these and possibilities are endless yeah The possibility is actually very constrained. Like, the Zillow Beast actually very limited in application is my suspicion, but, like, Palpatine is just, like, rule of cool. Like, better to have one and not need one. Right. Yep. Yep.

So I hope we, I hope the Zillow Beast gets justice in the next life. I hope clone Zillow Beast takes these fuckers to court. Yeah. He's going to own the plastic set in it. Little ones Little Zillow Bees Lots of small And we can get little shots of like

The Zillobes Maybe like driving hover cars And piloting spacecraft Why I have one big When you could have many small And cute And dangerous The Zillobis is cute by the way

It has a very like round face I can't believe this podcast is so gone Good night everybody Austin's got a bad feeling about this tangent. I don't know. I'm going to be a bit of a bit of it. Thank you.

Thank you. Oh!