A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 29: Padawan Lost & Wookie Hunt (Clone Wars 65 - 66)

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

We have finally, actually come to the end of Clone Wars' third season, and we've been met with a pair of enjoyable, if straight forward, episodes. As has been a running theme throughout the season, t...oday's journey focuses on Ahsoka's growing sense of independence and reliability, casting her as the protector of a group of lost Jedi younglings who've been caught up in a real Most Dangerous Game situation. And I know what you're wondering: Are some of these Younglings 57 years old? Yes. Okay, well, does Ahsoka moralize to them in the same ineffectual ways that the Jedi always do? Also yes.  NEXT TIME: Episodes 67 - 69 ("Water War," "Gungan Attack," and "Prisoners") You can support the show and gain access to a monthly Q&A cast by going to patreon.com/civilized Show Notes Trandoshan Kills: Morgo, Vadoo, Katt Mol, Lika, Khalifa Trandoshan Deaths: Dar, Clutch, Goron, Lagon, Gilas, Ratter, Lo-Taren, Socheck, Garnac Trandoshan K/D Ratio: 0.555   Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Alicia Acampora Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let us return once more to a more civilized age, Clone Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zackney, joined by Ali Akipora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We were wondering how the Clone Wars season three would top its big action set pieces from the Citadel arc. But it turns out that for these final two episodes, Padawan Lost and Wookie Hunt, Clone Wars has been saving its greatest trick for last. That's right, the Clone Wars is predator now. But what if, instead of a remorseless and mysterious killing machine from another world, we face a more loathsome villain than we've ever encountered in Star Wars before, American Big Game Hunters.
Starting point is 00:00:46 So here's the quick summary. On a mission with Plokun and Anakin, Asoka is kidnapped by a Trandotion and taken as a prisoner to a planet where a bunch of, Rich redneck Trandotians hunt the most dangerous game of all, sentient beings, using just their wits and ATVs, gunships, and radio-linked scout sniper teams. Asoka falls in with some other kidnapped paduans who have been surviving in the jungle for weeks or even months. Unfortunately, they come from the huge fucking wimp school of Jedi training, and Asoka has to remind them that, hold on, they are all motherfucking space wizards and can take a bunch of rich assholes in ATVs. But wait, they can't kill them if they're feeling upset about these guys hunting children through a forest. So Asoka gets one of her new friends killed for the sake of Jedi Moral Vanity.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Realizing the can't just pick off the hunters one by one because, you know, that really only works if you're going to kill people. They attack the prisoner transport the hunters used to release their prey, and lo and behold, the only prisoner on that ship is Chewbacca. Chewbacca rigs a distress beacon to a wookie commando team, but then the Jedi Strike Force raids the hunters' airship camp. Their plan goes awry, but they rescued just in the nick of time by the wookie badasses, and together they wipe out the hunters. At the end, Asoka is reunited with a guilt-wrecked Anakin, who throughout this entire arc has been seeing Asoka as just yet another person he has failed to save, but she reassures
Starting point is 00:02:24 him that his training gave her what she needed to survive, and the season, ends with them walking into the light of the hangar at the Jedi Temple, as Yoda looks on approvingly, as if this mutual growth and understanding was exactly what he hoped to achieve all along when he paired them together back in the Clone Wars movie. Okay, I editorialized a bit, it's true, but there were some beats that really got under my skin, and I can't, I can't help it. You're not wrong. I mean, that's exactly what happened. That is exactly what happened in these two episodes, and I'm angry about it. I have a really important question about one of these.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Well, I guess we should get to, we should get to, not Felusha. We should get to the Trandotian planet. It's like a moon of Trandotia. Well, it opens on Felicia, though. It does open on Felicia, and it looks sick, by the way. Wow. Last time we saw Felusha, it was like yet another kind of goofy Dr. Seuss-ass planet. And this time it's like, we got budget, we got lighting specialists.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So there is, the first Faloni zone is just about why these episodes look so good and why the show is about to look better. We don't have to go there because it's just Faloni being like here, pretty dryly, here is what's going on. But I will tell you what it is. The two things that he did, these two things, these two episodes, on the hunting moon, instead of storyboarding a space and then having them build the space, he had them build a space and then scouted it digitally as if to be. Okay, what can I shoot in here? That's really cool. They're like gray boxed the... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah. Exactly. Then number two, and maybe more importantly for the long run, after doing that, he was like, I can still see seams. I can still see repeated textures. I can still see all that. And so two people on the team, Joel Aaron and Josh Rowe, came up with a program, which feels like it's a plug-in or something in their renderer that would, quote,
Starting point is 00:04:21 fill in the background with tons of little details. It, quote, it populates the background with tons of. odds and ends, branches and twigs and ants and bugs and butterflies and little creepy crawly things and mist and a sense of humidity, which just breaks up the space in a way that the show, the framing had never had in the composition of much of the little tiny detail in space. He says that it just makes everybody makes it feel like these characters are actually in the environment in a different way.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And at the very end, he's like, and we're going to use this in the future to make everything we do better. And it's like, yeah, everything in this entire episode has an atman. to it on top of there being a little creepy crawly bugs all over the place and a lot more little detail and some animators Pixar application short uh wedged into the interstitial cuts in this uh in this episode uh-huh little little weird you know bird people or not bird people just bird birds hanging out convors is what they're called it felt like it was a loading screen for these episodes like yeah just take me to the next scene thank you yeah uh-huh absolutely but yeah so that's thing is like literally a new technology was rolled out for these episodes and it's it's just the way light works the way it diffuses through the air there's a really soft ambient glow sometimes that rules it's it's great I'm curious if this if they decided to pull this
Starting point is 00:05:46 forward to this season as sort of like look at look at what's to come like here it makes sense as a scene is an ender. I mean, a lot of what we talked about last episode is like, why the fuck didn't they just end the season on the last arc? And I could imagine if there was like a team developing this tech for the next season that maybe this was sort of their opener and they wanted to end season three with like,
Starting point is 00:06:21 here's the next generation. Here's the future. Yeah, this is the next era of, Clone Wars, this is what it's going to look like. Well, and also yet again, Felusha, we saw, like, you know, we saw them evacuating Felusha like a season and a half ago. That's where Asoka is, like, I can hold them. And, like, the entire clone armies coming through there.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And so, like, it does feel like, once again, they sort of, like, this seems like less drawing attention to the fact we're time skipping. But, like, just this, like, using Felusha again seems like it sort of points in that direction. And then, yeah, I think if you look side by side what Felusha looked like the last time we saw it versus now, it is wild, how cool this planet looks. Though I don't... Just side thing, quick thing,
Starting point is 00:07:08 why have the Jedi deploying armor divisions to the densest fucking jungle I've ever seen in Star Wars? Can you even fit the walker through there? I can't even move. What I will say was I was happy to see them at least set up the tanks on a distant ridge to do kind of long-range artillery support. for infantry maneuvers.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was like, all right, that makes more sense than they've, we've seen them roll tanks through the, the jungles of Phage before. It makes no fucking sense. I'm with you. Here they were a little bit smarter about it. But again, I just really want to call attention to the shot of the droid lander descending and it opening up and it being all fucking red inside and the droids coming out. I will say it got me hype for a different episode.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That episode does not the one we watch who did not watch one where Grievous got to do sick shit all covered in sick lights. but it was still really pretty way to start this. Did anyone else have a little beat? So because it opens with them assaulting this like separatist firebase. And this is how Asoka ends up getting got, which is it's sort of a three-part attack where Anakin is ambushing the reinforcements. And then Asoka and Plow are going over the walls.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And there's this little beat. It cracked me up because Plow turns to his squad and says, follow me and then flies through the fucking air over the wall and for a beat nothing happens and I was like plow
Starting point is 00:08:31 they can't do that they can't do that plow that's classic plow plow's fucking face stuff all looks sick too I know that we've already said that before in a previous episode but I feel like I got another
Starting point is 00:08:44 notch up in this episode yeah anytime we get a close I think it is a little different I was noticing that too. I feel like in this episode, in the last one we saw him in the last arc, I noticed his voice sounding a little different, but I didn't actually go back and do a comparison. So maybe it's just that it's been so long without plow.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I've forgotten the presence of his voice. Go ahead, Alex. Well, the big plow upgrade for me this episode was that you got to see his arm cuff so much better. and they had this like really intricate black and white design. I was like, damn, Plow, you look great today. Plow is, Plow fashion game is just good. Like, Plow cares about his appearance in that way. He knows he's a leader.
Starting point is 00:09:35 He knows he, his, the wolf pack that makes his crew, is actually called that, Plow's Bros, need to look to him for guidance in all things, and that includes swag, includes drip, exactly, 100%. I truly think Plow is the Jedi with the most drip, period. You have to be Siff to get more druggiest Jedi. No one comes close to Plow's fits. At all. At all.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's like no contest. It's honestly sad that nobody else has tried to even attempt to take up a piece of the helm of swag. Do you think Plow stays up late? for sneaker drops do you think plow he has someone do that for it he has someone do that yeah yeah of course this is what it means he's got a shoe guy he's got a shoe guy yeah he's got the plows bros are all refreshing uh the app yeah he just fits the blows bros like in between missions uh oh do you think he'd like this one i don't know they're presenting fits yes yeah oh my god also so the reason the other reason though the Jedi are like oh man
Starting point is 00:10:49 why can't we have that? It's because every time they ask him about it, he's like, oh, it's a very deep religious and cultural. And everyone's like, oh. So it would be like, it'd be like appropriating if he's like, yes, it would be. And then the background, he's like,
Starting point is 00:11:02 check this out. What do you think, guys? What if we all got, like, matching, what if we got, like, all, like, matching dickies? Oh, fuck. I want the, I want the fan art of plow and his bros with matching J's. I'm bad.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And like, but you know what? He doesn't just like take care of like the look of his army. He got his crew jet packs. Because like you're right. It is a problem. The Jedi can like fly and do super jumps. But Plow is about the team. He brings the squad with him.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And so he like, he put, he made the outlay for some rocket packs. And they all went boosting over the wall. Meanwhile, Asoka's people, you're going to climb that rope, kid. Yep. Get up there. Hurry up. You know, and because of that, she has to wait for them to jump up or climb up there, and then she's alone for a second.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And then the hunter nets her with an energy net, you know? Which I guess are the Trondotians just like piggybacking off this, like, battle? And they're just like, oh, we'll just like pick up some straggler Jedi younglings slash Panawans. I wonder if it's like during this phase of the hunt the trans oceans are spread across the galaxy looking for opportunities like this What I don't know is
Starting point is 00:12:27 I guess not neither Just the Republic doesn't have sensors For Trondotian ships They didn't like pick up that like Oh yeah there was another spaceship here And it went over this way And it was a Trondotion make No they didn't have that
Starting point is 00:12:40 Like no wonder you're losing the war They had the Trondotion filter turned off Right Only looking for separatist ships right now. Yeah. Yeah. The fact that the Trondotians are just kind of doing this throughout the galaxy is a problem in itself. Again, like sort of like, hey, Republic,
Starting point is 00:12:55 like one of the things you kind of got to do is like protect lives and not, not nailing it, I would say, I think if you're a wookie, I think if you're like the legitimate government of Kesheek would get to it, but I think you would have some feelings about the Republic's responsiveness
Starting point is 00:13:11 to the Trondotion problem. This brings me, this brings me to one of the younglings. Uh-huh Omer Is this one of Kiyadi Mundi's kids It's just the same species
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think Natalie But isn't the whole thing About the species is that there's like None of them So Kiyadi Mundi is like Just populating I don't think it's like there's none of them In the sense that there are none of them
Starting point is 00:13:40 And they're all Kiyadi Mundi's kids I think that they are But there's a higher chance than normal Yeah at least like a nephew or something yeah they're probably related this is fair this is fair like they're doing the midi-chlorian test like in kiari-mundi's neighborhood yeah this is true 100% he is that species though yeah yeah um i was just like damn kiyadimundi doesn't give a like not out here looking for his kids complete dead beats uh the um the thing i was going to say is
Starting point is 00:14:16 you know, the moment that Assoja gets captured, it becomes very clear, like, okay, this is an Asoka arc. And that's probably the other reason they end the season with this, is like, this has been a season about, not about, but one of the three lines of this season has been increasingly independent and increasingly, you know, self-sufficient. This is the season. It may be hard to remember because it's been so long at this point. But, you know, season three was like her learning how to do the Jedi Mind trick for the first time, way back when we went. back to the Pantora stuff. It was her doing, and also trying it again on Mandelor and getting fucking owned when she tried it too many times in a row. It's a lot. It's her starting to question Obi, no, we want Anakin a little bit. I feel like, I feel like this is the season where they
Starting point is 00:15:05 wanted us to like start thinking about her as like a person under herself and not just like Anakin's little sister, right? And so it makes sense to end the season on this. And hopefully, set the stage so that next time she'll start next season she'll start I don't know diverging even more in some direction but it does like it does kind of feel like this is the end of her apprenticeship
Starting point is 00:15:28 in some ways like narratively even if whatever the Jedi like formal like thing is at this moment it seems enough things have happened that like this might be the high watermark of their relationship as like mentor and mentee and I suspect from here we're going to be seeing a bit more like divergence
Starting point is 00:15:44 so Asoka is is taken, and she finds herself in the opening cutscene of Path of Exile, being taken to the Trend Ocean, like, a hunt world, and the most gormless little creature is in the cell across from her. I don't know what he is, but he's just like he's just a big boy, and things do not go well for that big, harmless boy, who's like they're taking us to hunt us, and they do just drop...
Starting point is 00:16:18 He knows that already. How does he know that? Like, is this a known thing that's happening there at the galaxy? The Trandotians are... I mean, this is the... We're going to get into this at some point, but we're doing a most dangerous game, right?
Starting point is 00:16:30 That's what's happening here. It's a most dangerous game. And I feel like the most dangerous game, you get two variations. You get the most dangerous game version or like the purge. Rich people like to hunt people for sport because they don't see the value in human life because they feel that they are
Starting point is 00:16:50 better than everybody else. And also because they're so privileged, they have no, nothing makes them feel alive anymore. Right. They've lost connection. Yeah, totally, exactly. And then you have predator here again from Star Trek. I want to say there's another different Star Trek hunter race where it's like this is part of our cultural core.
Starting point is 00:17:12 What we do as a people is we hunt the, most. We hunt things that potentially could kill us and we bring back the trophies to put on display on our spaceships. It's almost always a sci-fi thing in my experience. You also have other hunter cultures that aren't hunting people necessarily, but have hunts as a big part of their culture like Krogan in Mass Effect, where like you've got to go fight the Thresher Mall if you want to be king or whatever, right? Is it just like an adult that you have to kill a Thresher Mall? I forget what happens with Grunt, but it's one of those two things. Maybe it's like accepted to the plan.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You want to be the king of finelia. You have to go out there and get the dragon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, you do have, like, cultural hunts. I think those are distinct. And they walk, there's a line you're walking there because I think, I suspect most of us are on board for the rich people hunt, you know, poor people for sport analogy for the way rich people fucking suck. It gets a little trickier when it's like this is a culture of. racially coded hunter
Starting point is 00:18:17 society. They're walking the line because on the one that it's like, oh, these fucking trondotions. Like, this is what they do. But then they're like, all right, son, get your ATV with the fucking high beams. Yeah. And they're all shit hunters. They're all shit hunters. And they're doing the helicopter hunting thing, right?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Where they're like, this is not a fair fight. So I made reference to this. Yeah, they're not on the ground. Like, they're, they've got fucking turrets mounted on their. They make it. So the, fucking Jedi can't use, the hunties can't use the guns that they pick up.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, they immediately disengage them as soon as, it's just. Yeah. Also, like, the specially designed environment where it's, like, all neon or whatever, it's, like, there's no opportunity for. Well, that's it. M.K pointed out, like, just the look of their little jungle. All the splotches of color also has, like, strong paintball court vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Which is, like, again, rich doucheback. Mind you, paintball's fun, but I never had the money to go play paintball on the regular. And I do feel like the regulars of the paintball course were of a type. And you were like, uh-huh, okay. Yeah, so that's what we're dealing with here. You either, oh, did you get your rental tip, mid-95? Yeah, 100%. They've got their site zeroed in.
Starting point is 00:19:33 A hundred percent. And you're like, yeah. They spent 600 bucks on some sort of special neon orange bullshit, like 100%. The course master keeps being like, you're overcharging your weapon. I know you're not shooting at the. like upper like the velocity limit and they're like yeah I am yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:19:49 this also so I cite this a lot because it did it crystallized it crystallized a phenomenon which is like I think the relationship that rich privileged societies that like value hunting end up
Starting point is 00:20:07 having in some place with hunting I think about like an episode of King of the Hell where it's really like a big deal for like Hank Hill Old school, like, you know, Texan manhood to take his son hunting. But, like, Bobby Hill is a soft, sweet little kid in that show. It doesn't really want to do it. But the other thing is Hank discovers that hunting cultures changed since he was a kid.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And it's no longer, here's your bolt action rifle. Off you go into the brush for, you know, a day. Like, he ends up going to a range where they have, like, blinged out tree stands with, like, bait feeders at the base of the tree and so he's watching like other other dads and their sons like doing the same ritual but they're just like basically murdering deer who like come up trustingly to these little like food pellet dispensers and like blowing the way and it's like appalling in that moment he's like this isn't and I think that that gets it something which is that like even in cultures where like hunting is like there's there's sort of an ethos associated with it it's still like
Starting point is 00:21:12 valued as a thing, it is increasingly easy for also become like a rich person's playground and that it begins to make the whole thing also look kind of disgusting and off-putting because it is so like wildly unfair and exploitative. And that's happening here too, where like these guys are all like geared up, but they're idiots. Like they're not, they're not good. No. Also not good. These youngling So they're not even Padawans. I think one of,
Starting point is 00:21:47 I think Califah is a Padawan maybe. No, she, maybe? I'm pretty sure she's a youngling. God. She, because she says like, at a certain,
Starting point is 00:21:57 so she finds, Asoka lands, her two homies that she drops with immediately murked. And she finds some sort of hiding place in Califa, one of the three Jedi youngs,
Starting point is 00:22:12 links finds her and brings her back to their kind of like safe house in a tree with Omer and Jinks and Omer as we said is a Kiyadh Moodian Syrian I think
Starting point is 00:22:27 Syrian, I think a Syrian, Sarian not a Syrian Sarian and Jinks who is a Twilock and both of them I just got to say it sound old as shit yes they are 48 years
Starting point is 00:22:42 So good. 100%. They got mortgages. It's a grown-ass man. Roth IRAs. One of them, I guarantee you one of them is restoring an old Jaguar. I promise you. I mean, they got three grown kids.
Starting point is 00:22:56 None of them talk to them. You ask him what's up with his kids. He's like, oh, yeah, they're good. That's a lie. They sound old as shit. They sound so fucking old. It's so disorienting. Every time they open their mouths, I was like, they're like, yeah, yeah, we're, we're
Starting point is 00:23:12 What do you want us to do about it? We're younglings. We can't. Asoka, you need to understand that we're just little kids. It's so fucked up. And their ass. They do have the force. They do have the force.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And their ass. Kalifa is like... Okay, so Kalifa explains. And heath explains, hey, we tried to turn the table on these guys before. And it's never, every Paduaan was coming here saying, like, let's take these guys. They all died. And when she said that, I was immediately like, I'm going to bet because you motherfuckers cut and ran. I'm going to bet you every time someone with any spine has showed up and be like, all right, guys, let's get them.
Starting point is 00:24:00 The Padawan jumps and the others just scatter. And that's who we got here. Yep. Yeah, they, they, I mean, I was thinking a lot. about, like, how long have they been here? And it feels like they've been here for years. Like, that's the vibe. Because they're like, yeah, we're younglings, but they're all...
Starting point is 00:24:21 50. 45. Yeah. So it feels like they've been here for quite a while. They seem to have, like, all the systems figure it out in terms of how the hunts typically go, how to hide. They've gotten really good at hiding. Not sure, like, where food is or...
Starting point is 00:24:39 There's animals and there's plants. they like know what plants are safe? Yeah, they've lost a couple younglings along the way testing out you know, the berries and shit. Hey, did the Jedi just give up on the, I guess so. The answer is yes. They gave up on these younglings. That's what I'm saying is like
Starting point is 00:24:55 where if the trans oceans capture, so like, were they on a field trip to like they're not paduans, right? The little man says they were on a mission. He said they were lifted on mission. Now, they're pointing younglings on mission.
Starting point is 00:25:11 the thing. I feel like in the script there's a mistake like that they actually did mean to say Padawans and they kept like because youngling is a cool word and it is fun to say and like it's yeah like I feel like these are not younglings because we know what young looks like it looks like
Starting point is 00:25:26 oh master Skywalker what do we do you don't expect anything from them but you don't yeah I don't think they go on little like youngling field trips I don't think they were older younglings that's a battle one no there's a line there's a line there but like
Starting point is 00:25:44 think of the situations that we had with the clone cadets where it's like let's show you what your future of a Jedi is going to be by doing like some on the field action but then we will not take roll call buddy system non-existent I mean I think the thing that we're learning is they're like we can't
Starting point is 00:26:02 go back we just can't like even Polkoon who is right to be like you got to trust a trust Asoka because you've done all that you can already do for her. You know, he ain't like, all right, let's put out the network. Let's see what we can, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like they just kind of let them, all right, we lost, we lost a few out here.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Whoops. They don't have the numbers like that. Also, we know this. Ventress. Oh, no, Ventress was not, Ventress was never reported as a Padawan. No, yes, she was like a under the table Padawan. My bad. Just fucked up also, by the way.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Hey, kid, don't tell the other Jedi about this. You want some cash? I hate it. In the situation that the Jedi are in, I'm sure that they do it like retail stores do it, where it's like people, we're allowed to accept a percentages of loss. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You know, I'm sorry that we lost those kids. We lost two younglings of the shit, you know? You're 10,000 Jedi. What's two? On the ledger against what Cadbane did, when that list got out, This probably is like a rounding error in terms of like what happened as a result of that. So fucked up.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It's real fucked up. But the thing is I thought youngling was being used at first as an, like when the Trondotion says it, I was like, oh, the Trondotion doesn't understand. Assoca's not a youngling. Right. She's a Padawan. Right. And I do think that that's kind of what they meant. The thing that I keep thinking is, Asoka was a youngling until we saw her in the movie.
Starting point is 00:27:35 in the Clone Wars movie where she becomes a Padawan. So, like, maybe they all were right about. Like, she's quite strong at that point. Like, she, she has, like, a certain mastery over the force. She's, like, a level one Jedi. Yeah. Like, she has force push. Yeah. She can jump far.
Starting point is 00:27:54 She knows how a lightsaber works. She can, like, block shots. Yeah. They couldn't do any of that. They couldn't do any of that. I guess together they're able to force push someone once. And especially, I think the thing that really dams the younglings is they have no confidence in their abilities. Like, if they were overconfident younglings, they would probably be forced grabbing apples and doing stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, Anakin's style, like doing stupid shit. But I think the fact is they've been so demoralized by, you know, miss after just L after L after L after L on. this fucking island of terror, that you need the confidence in your abilities themselves to prove them out, to like see them enacted. And I think Asoka inspires that in them. But yeah, I don't think they have any, they don't have any sort of like battle sense. They're very, Kalifa seems to have like a good head of our shoulders in terms of pure survival, but she also has resigned herself to living in this hellscape for the rest of her
Starting point is 00:29:12 life. And essentially, their strategy is they have this safe house where they sleep, which they leave in the morning to go run around so that the Trindotians can't trace their smell, but they sleep in the same tree house every night and make fire in it, make fire which make light, which and smoke. The fire did alarm. Yeah, the smoke clears up the sense of your body. And then you're not there during the day, so the smell dissipates. And then, you know, you go that 24 hour cycle and you're set. Right. This is science. Definitely. It's science. You're right. It's a hard. It's a life. I'm not trying to take anything away. To be clear, they're doing their best out there. Yeah, it sucks. The transdotion seemed to attack every day. I don't know if this is like hunting season and so
Starting point is 00:30:10 they're out here every day and then maybe the rest of the year. That's not the case and they can kind of chill. Oh, that would be nice. But I mean, this is a case on the point of these trans oceans are super rich because like every day you go out of the moon to hunt people. Like, what do you, you don't have a day job to get back to my God? That's what I was thinking of. And it goes. back to the King of the Hill analogy a little bit because like trans oceans are an interesting race in Star Wars history because like when Star Wars was just like reading books about cool bounty hunters it was like fun to have like a justification for why this person is doing this like people need money but this guy wants to please God like it feels like there's a there's like a
Starting point is 00:30:52 difference from like being like oh I really want to kill a wookie but like I need to make rent so I'm going to go to the bounty hunter list and hunt this this week instead of like going to like my fun house neon forest. Yeah. Yeah. Big difference. It's way different. Way, way different.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So they end up coming across. So, so because like, fuck this. I'm not living here for the rest of my life. I'm going to fuck up some trans oceans and we're going to find a way off this moon. And Khalifa,
Starting point is 00:31:27 Omer and Jinks, are like, no. But they go along with it. So, the next day, they set out, and they single out a single Trandotian. And Caliphia starts doing something really epic and awesome and cool.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And starts force choking him because he's, torturing her and being super evil and shitty. Also, he's got a gun. He has a radio and we don't know this, but as MK said a minute later, she's like, oh no, I'm doing his little bitch call, which is indeed the last line of defense this guy has. It's so fucked up that they can do that. It made me so mad. I was like, how do you have this like?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Oh, my God, it made us angry. But as Khalifa is doing this, she's got him up. Like, also, great show of force power. Like, I'm like, wow, this is a great, like, moment for Khalifa to really, you know, own this. She's using the force, like, the 45-year-old woman. She is. It's not great. And Asoka's like, no, you can't kill him out of hatred.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's unreal. She goes up and she's like, Kalifa, no. And like grabs her and like breaks her fucking concentration and hold, not out of anger. No, I'm angry. They've been hunting me. So the myth the guy is loose. He gets on the ground and he starts like going like, oh, no, la, la. And everyone's like, wah, rah, rah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And you're fucked. They're fucked. They're under fire from the whole gang. Also, quick thing, this is like, the gun. don't work the minute their tape they don't say like it's got like a bioloc on it no but like the guns are they shut them down that they purposefully disable them and I kept waiting for that to come up in a way there it was like at the end right well like if we kill them real quick we can then grab their gun and use it before they disable it which doesn't ever happen right
Starting point is 00:33:45 that just doesn't ever pay off but I didn't it wasn't even like the person holding it was disabling it to me it I almost imagine it as like laser tag like yeah yeah yeah yeah one on the boards that is in a fake referee shirt is in those two rooms away fucking flipping off the switch yeah yeah exactly you're playing too rough out there i'm putting you on stun lock for two minutes come back to base to recharge the gun you're not allowed to climb on the walls you can't do that i have a trivia note here that's that's funny to mostly me um there's a Trandotian who has goggles on, amber-tinted goggles and camo-shorts. And his name is So-Chek, which is named after Walter Sochek, the character in the Big Lobosky.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And the reason that's funny to me is I kept thinking that O.C. Sobeck was a name that was meant as a reference to that Big Lobosky character last time. And it isn't, because the next episode, they're like, oh, yeah, this is our Big Loboski reference. I was like, all right, fucking fine. I guess Sobeck isn't a reference, but So-Chek is. Whatever. Sure. That is, that is funny. So they, they survive. The hunter gets away, question mark?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Or is this the, is this the moment where Asoka flips him over? No, that's later. That's later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the vicious deaths start at the end of this. I guess someone else has already gotten, the other, like, prisoners have been killed at this point. We've seen other people get shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:21 But not our main crew. Yeah. still alive. So after a weak-ass day of, you know, revolting. Sorry, I thought you were calling the one who got owned weak-ass Dave for a second. After a weak-ass Dave gets forced-choked. He can be weak-ass Dave. He's weak-ass-dave.
Starting point is 00:35:45 They go back to their little tree house and, you know, decide that what the real plan should be, Asoka says, is to just go for the base somehow. Somehow get into the sky and go for the base. When in the base, we see that the trans oceans are having like a frat boy like pump up pregame. The chest bumps. The chest bumps. Yeah. Yeah. It's so toxic. And again, this is the stuff that I feel like, it's like, oh, you're really leaning into we are a culture of hunters and tribesmen here where you're like everyone has the furs out and it's all cast in this red glow
Starting point is 00:36:26 and like this is stuff pulled from like 1950s exploitation films about you know tribes hunting white dudes but it is also fratboy culture and that's the part I support being in the show is the chest bumps and there is like a very funny
Starting point is 00:36:44 zoom in on I mean we should just really be clear there is some like grow grotesque shit happening in the background of a lot of their ship, where there's just trophies everywhere, including trophies of just fully skinned wookies. It's just wookie. There's a bunch. There's like 12 hanging up like their like jackets. And it zooms into the mouth of one of them to like end the shot.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And it's really creepy. And there's like preserved heads of like gungans and yeah. Like it's very ex come. It's completely. it's trophy hunting there's no like and we will use this for something
Starting point is 00:37:28 it's just like glory glory hunting well and they're not even the predators from Predator 2 where they're like and we have rules to the hunt and we have a culture you know what I mean they're not even like you know we're here to
Starting point is 00:37:42 fight fairly and like have have been noble victory which is its own Oh is that a rule they introduced in Predator 2 seen Predator 1 Sucked No. The Predator 1
Starting point is 00:37:52 is like a low blood like he sucks like he's not a good predator In Predator 2 You have to watch Predator 2 Rob
Starting point is 00:37:58 You have to watch Predator 2 Starring Danny Glover Yeah he's like He's like cop right He's a cop in Los Angeles And it's like It's completely obsessed with like
Starting point is 00:38:10 Late 80s early 90s Gang War culture shit Al you're smiling You've seen this recently Yeah yeah You like just watch it I remember you message me about it Um
Starting point is 00:38:19 and then like the predator in that has like a degree of respect for Danny Glover's character as Danny Glover continues to fucking win and then it turns into like a one-on-one fight on it's like they go on the predator's ship and you they reveals that they've been hunting a like there's an alien skull on the ship that's her alien versus predator comes from is that one of the trophies they have is the alien trophy is the alien skull no on the ship and there's like an there's like an elder predator who is there to like adjudicate the fight between the two of them. It's very goofy.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Also, their ship is gross. That's the other thing. Their ship interior, correct me if I'm wrong, Allie. But it's like fleshy and weird. I don't remember if I remember being fleshy. It seemed like humid in there probably. But I guess it's yellow. Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I don't know why. I don't know. This looks gross to me. On max. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Humidifier on max for sure. Lots of mist. So the predator.
Starting point is 00:39:19 one predator, not representative of predator culture, misusing the gear, hunting irresponsibly. Correct. Yes. That predator is called the jungle hunter, and the one in Predator 2 is called the city hunter. Like the anime. Anyway. So, so wait, to correct myself really quickly, they don't know where the base is just yet. Asoka's like, we should scout the moon to see where the base is. And then they figure, they see the, I guess this is the first time anyone's ever seen the landing. No one's looked up before. No one's looked in the sky.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I know. It makes no sense to me. They're so shook. They just stay in the tree house until it's time to go. Maybe they don't recognize that that would be the base. I don't know. I'm trying to make excuses for them. Well, no, there's two things, because there's two different types.
Starting point is 00:40:17 ship. There's the landing drop-off people ship. Yeah. Which is not the base. And then there's the air base that does not ever come down. It just floats up there. Yeah. Yeah. But it kind of comes into vicinity and goes out of the city. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like
Starting point is 00:40:33 you can see it. You can just straight up see it if you look up. It's huge. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like a shield helic carrier. Like it's a big thing. It's not hard to miss. Yeah. So they So there's a particular
Starting point is 00:40:48 Trandotian that we've mentioned before Dar, who is the son of weak-ass Dar who is the son of like the head trundotion of the squad I guess and this definitely feels like a coming of age ritual like a coming of age event let's say. I don't know about ritual
Starting point is 00:41:08 but for Dar like his dad's like that kills going to be yours son like you get that those younglings and you're going to be uh epic for it and dar so so the next morning comes they figure out oh here's the you know massive base that's dropping 20 trandotions every morning so that must be the base um and darr goes after asoka and califa omair and jinx i had to remember their names Amer and Jinks kind of get split off and they're just running away from someone else.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And Dar fucks up Khalifa, who like falls on the ground and is like not doing so hot anymore. And Asoka starts fighting Dar and here's the thing. Asoka kills Dar in one of the most fucked up ways you can kill someone way more fucked up than force choking I am O
Starting point is 00:42:22 she is like grappling with him and she flips him over onto a thorn protruding out of the ground and the thorns just goes right through his abdomen It's the size of his abdomen though it's like it's a
Starting point is 00:42:40 He doesn't have a chest anymore. It's gone. It is all thorn now. Which, like, I don't know how... Well, it wasn't done in anger or hate, you know? It's fine. So, that's the thing. This happens twice.
Starting point is 00:42:53 In both cases, the happenstance make sure that there's no question as to, did Assoca just kill a guy? In this case, all she does is flip him off. All she does, they're fighting on a rock and like, oh, no, he could have fallen anywhere. He just happened to land on the thorn. And then again, at the end, she's like trying to spare this dude whilst surrounded by the fucked up trophy room
Starting point is 00:43:16 that indicates like this guy shouldn't walk like if you don't do it the wookies will outside but instead she force pushes him it just happens to be hard enough that he goes over railing and falls to his death but like in each case it's like two other times too Rob it's the people on board the delivery ship in the beginning of next episode
Starting point is 00:43:35 who she knocks out and and one of them looks like he bleeds to this he doesn't I have to look real close we'll get there but that ship blows up and kills those people yeah so like a lot of people die by mistake but no you can't lift up someone who is hunting you as part of uh yeah like you can only kill someone you can only facilitate someone's death you cannot like you cannot be the one to strike the final blow i mean do you think she would have let the kill because she literally killed someone last arc she wasn't out of hate, if
Starting point is 00:44:12 Kalifa didn't have like grr on her face, do you think she would have let it happen? If it was just like, oh, punch, kill, done, she would have been cool with it. It's the fact that Khalifa was like, grr, I'm just fucking mad at you. Right, she's concentrating.
Starting point is 00:44:29 This is just my face, Asoka. Resting, concentrating face. But, okay, even if it was a very small part of you was just from the like the history of knowing what a forced choke is when she was doing that there wasn't a part of you that was
Starting point is 00:44:48 like this is a little fucked out my my read on it is this Vader does it to show that like I can choke you at any time and nobody can stop me it's like me walking into an office meeting and choking somebody because like that is how powerful and important
Starting point is 00:45:06 I am that I can just do that there's not like a personal hatred there that is motivating that choke. He could just choke on a word at that point. Well, he's so mean, son of a bitch, but the thing is, like, but the force choke, I think, it's like, you're just using your little force hands. It's like, sometimes you've got to, like,
Starting point is 00:45:22 move a little lightsaber around a room where you're thirsty and, like, the cop is across it and you bring it over to you. But sometimes you have to use it to, like, lay hands on someone who's just not at arm's length, and you have to choke him. Like, it's... All right, well, this is... Here's the thing, right? Do I think it's more or less dark-sided than being, like,
Starting point is 00:45:39 all right my name my name is is bill and i've joined up with the separatists because i believe in the separatist call i think the republic is fucked up i've dedicated my life to this and then some jenni comes around and it's like you will call in your commander and tell them to look the other way as we sneak a bomb on board your ship and kill 500 people i'm like yeah okay i'll do that i think i think my fucking force persuade is just as fucked up as force choke yeah okay yeah if it if it's used for these sorts of events, you know? I just, in Asoka's case, I feel like if my reaction is like 95% not fucked up, 5% a little bit fucked up.
Starting point is 00:46:19 For Assoca, it's like 6040, right? And she wants to put a stop to it. Is a thing that she's only seen like Duku and Ventrists do. Yeah. And it's bad. Didn't she see Anakin force choke someone in a torturing session? No, she was not there for that. That was when Anakin was trying to find her, right?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. During the, or was it during, yes, it was. It was while he's trying to find her during the brain worms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 100%. Right, right, right. She definitely implies to Newt Gunray, the things are about to get extremely real for him in that way of the transporting. Oh, sure. She doesn't do the force choke, but she sure lets like the force choke hang in the room. She does. Yeah, like, for me, I was like, Asoka, what are you doing? Like this is, you don't have guns. Like, I'm sorry, this is just, it's the clearest cut example of, like, you gotta get it. Right. You gotta get it. A gun would not, if she had picked up the gun and fired, that's not, that's, you know what I mean? Exactly. Right. But it's because it's, it's specifically a power, it's like there has to be some sanctity to the force.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Like, if you're using a blaster, it's, it's, the moralization of it has been, is, is disconnect. but because the force is so heavily moralized that like any which way but like what if she force broke his leg you know right and that's what i think is really frustrating about the seed is because like asoka could have interrupted that action in a way that still got them the upper hand like if asoka's point is like we shouldn't kill him because he should be arrested or we should be getting information from him or whatever else like do you force pull him away from her and like I don't know, just figure it out, right? Yeah, knock them out or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:11 But the fact that, like, it's such a clear interruption, not just an interruption to stop her, but, like, to give her this lesson at that moment. Like, it's, like, we could have done this. That would have been the last 5% I needed to just, eh, yeah, you're done. That would have been it. What is the line she says?
Starting point is 00:48:33 She says, oh, no, that's what, that's what I have this quote. this is what Plow Kuhn says to Anakin, your emotions are clouding your judgment or whatever at the beginning. But the thing that that Asoka says to her is like, is just don't do that. Like, don't kill him out of hatred. Yeah. That's all. Don't kill him out of hatred.
Starting point is 00:48:57 It's not the Jedi way. Right. We can talk about this later. So, and this is, it's in such a fine tradition of shit action. Well, not the action movies not necessarily. shit, but, like, there's an entire period of films where you would have this beat, where it's like, don't do it, you'll be just like they are.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. And it's like, I can, hang on, excuse me, I can list the differences. Let me explain to you. Here, hey, you stay there on the ground. Don't fucking move or I'll kill you. Hey, bring that whiteboard over here. Because, like, I can, I can prepare a little presentation. What?
Starting point is 00:49:34 I don't own a moon. Two, I don't hunt real people for sports. Okay, fine. Let's slap a utilitarian lens on this. I think I got a case there too. I just run through it. Do you want to be content about it? I actually do think, according to the categorical imperative, it would be okay if all people
Starting point is 00:49:57 who were hunted for sport turned around and killed their hunters. I think that holds. That is a maxim that the universe could stand to see realized in every instance. The problem is, the problem is, I like, I'm just like, if this were the, if this, they would just be, what was the, what was the fucking episode we watched where they were like, no, we should arrest him and have him tried or whatever. Do you remember that? Like, they were like, somebody. I mean, that's, that's them going to arrest Palpatine. That's them. Like, constantly they're just like, let's, let's have a fair trial for this. known murderer who's threatening our lives right now it's just so it's
Starting point is 00:50:45 well again we know the court system is fucked up you fucking know it is the thing the thing again this is morality is real in Star Wars in a way that is
Starting point is 00:50:58 I think in our contemporary postmodern moment where we know all about how the idea of universal morality is a constructed thing socially and has changed over time and reflects the desires and needs of the powerful and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's easy to forget that in Star Wars, the living and cosmic force exist as real entities, and they don't like it when you force choke someone. But it is measured via vibes. It's also a vibes based morality of like, ugh, that's in...
Starting point is 00:51:31 And also, Pocoon gets to do emerald justice sometimes. And he gets axed. Don't worry about it. It was chill. Kalifa should have been like, oh no, this is just a rare Jedi technique. Forced neck massage. I just think
Starting point is 00:51:50 how can we come from like the Twilic planet and come from like revolution like fuck the separatist, fuck the oppressor, like we are going to fuck some people up, we're going to get them off our planet. This is so much more night and day than the separatists.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Like, it's so much more night and night. These are, these are the worst people we have met. We have not met a separatist this bad. No. Like, these people are so much worse than Grievous. Grievous is like, I am fighting a war. And like, he wins, but they are fights. Like, they are full on, like, ugly, like, two-the-death fights.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Okay, but how much would Grievous love to do this? Did you rent out the moon, bring some Jedi over, and just have a week at? But the Jedi would be armed. Okay, true. Okay, fair. Yeah, he specifically likes killing them and taking their weapons. Yeah. As true.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Right? He does. It's too easy. Because he could have some second honor. Yeah, that's right. For some respect on Grievous's name. Brevis is out here. And the fact that, like, Khalifa dies the next day is what really gets me under my skin, too.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, I forgot about this. This is the thing. Like, it's not that I don't. I don't think it's Dahr that they, that they spared the first day. Like, that's a different, that's some fucking red shirt, Trandotion. But, like, the fact that they have a chance to start eveninging the odds up a little bit. And Khalifa's, like, doing the thing. And Asoka pushed them to, like, fight back this way.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And now, like, when they're about to start winning, and when Khalifa is, like, fighting as Asoka urged her to, Assoca immediately Hall monitors the situation and says no. And the next day, trying an Asoka's way, you know, Khalifa's killed. She's killed by... Yeah. She, after Asoka Merck's Dar, just 100% fatal instant chaos on Dar. His dad... Up a cut into the pit, Mortal Kombat style.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, just Dunzo. his dad Garnack just snipes snipes Kalifa just like that and she's down and Asoka's like we you can survive this
Starting point is 00:54:14 and Kalif is like I am dying I'm dead now I am dying now so leave me I guess because I'm dying now because you didn't let me force choke the guy yesterday
Starting point is 00:54:26 and take care of the other two herbs and see you know how it goes also in all of this the fact that they're going to get bailed out by the fact that they get Chewbacca and Chewbacca calls in a strike team Asoka's like plan would never have worked
Starting point is 00:54:50 because like getting out of the situation this is literally the killer be killed situation like this whole thing of like only in the most like narrow interpretation of self-defense and only with like the purest of intentions of our heart in our heart can we actually like stand up in self-defense and take these guys down that's not going to work and what bails them out is the fact that like a giant pissed off wookie and his like squad of like pissed off wiki badass friends show up and like close this out like it's like morally speaking asoka's path here was going to get all of them killed like assoc is still in being like a big hero in the story and like you know make some clutch plays yeah but like did not have a game winning strategy califa califa did understand the assignment right like okay i've been here for a minute you just got to get these guys you got to get them they're
Starting point is 00:55:47 gonna get you yeah and i'm comfortable saying this i you know i maybe this sounds like i am uh uh advocating for murder but if someone kidnaps you and puts you on a moon and then starts hunting you for sport, you were well within your rights to grimace a little bit as you kill them when you get the upper hand. I'm sorry, you are. I agree. I agree. Thank you. I appreciate your support. You could even let out a little grunt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little like a little, like a half fist palm, like a little palm. See, I think that would have put a soccer back on the good side because that's joy. That's not anger. Oh, sure. If Khalifa had only said got him, that would have been it. All the Jen, I love it. Yeah, if Kalif would have done a-swish. Yeah, I was going to like, swish ball in. If Kalifa would have spiked the football afterwards and done like a little, you know, end-zone dance.
Starting point is 00:56:47 A funny little dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It would have been great. Yeah. It would have lifted everyone's spirits. Exactly. The morale would have gone up. They probably would have taken that drop ship without letting it crash to the ground.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And this is why the Jedi need a bard class. Like, if a bard is in the party, it's all fair game. Oh, no, no, no, yeah, we killed like 100 people. Here's a fun little ditty about it. And we have some moves. Let me show you, Master, Jedi Council. God. Who chill this was?
Starting point is 00:57:26 So, the other, so. The other thing that did, like, sort of take my breath away in this next episode, when they assault the prison chant, the transport used to, like, release the prisoners. Like, by the way, I had just watched, like, right before that, I had just watched a couple episodes of, like, Foundation. And they'd had a space battle, and it was ass. It was, like, terrible. And it didn't look cool. The whole, like, the direction they went with someone, like, the way, kind of.
Starting point is 00:58:00 combat happens in foundation, I really don't think was a great move. And then going from that to this was like, this is how you do a fucking space action sequence. This is, this is how you do that because the entire assault on the prison transport, followed by the crash, is just like a tour of force of like editing and choreography and like sound. When that thing hits the ground, I was like, holy shit, that was like one of the best, like, big thing crashing and, blowing up sequences I've ever seen that rocked yeah and it felt like they actually took into I mean obviously it was a a major plot point that one of the prisoners was Chewbacca and needed to be released in a safe way so that he could call his other friends and they could come save them but it was like the first time I felt like we we as a the show recognized that
Starting point is 00:59:00 there are other people on ships that need to be spared if the ship is going down, otherwise they will die in it. Yeah, there's an explicit callout where they're like, the prisoners will die if we don't let them out and someone hits a button. The Soka hits the button to like open all the drop pods or whatever. And the prisoners is like all, you see all these little slots open up. It's like chooosh, doosh, doosh, like all the little prisoner slot holes in the bottom of the ship. And then I guess there was only one on the ship.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It's chewy. Chewy, that's all you need. That's a big game. It's big game. Yeah. I want to shout out specifically the cockpit fight that Asoka has with this do with the shotgun, where one, it's just lit so well because of all the consoles are like red and have like red and orange buttons and that just like makes everything look good.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And two, she does the sickest move, which is as he's shooting at her, she like pushes the shotgun in two different directions so that he misses. and that's really good. And then she like drop kicks him through the front window of the thing. And the first time I watched it, I thought that she had killed him. I thought that there had been, it looked like there was blood splatter from his back.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But what it really is is glass that's kind of splashing out around him from the window pane. And the window panes are slightly tinted red. And then his shadow pulls around him. So I truly believe an animator was like, I know how to get this past the sensors. Oh, yeah, that's not blood.
Starting point is 01:00:32 That's just red glass particles. It's so weird that, like, everything is fair game if a clone is getting it. Like, everything. Like, I guess it's, like, technically you didn't show a guy getting cut in half, but, like, we all know. Like, the establishes each other's zero doubt about what happens, okay? It's like homicide life, life on the street back there, man. and then and then like
Starting point is 01:01:00 when it's time for the Jedi do some work we got to do some like real Batman the Android series gymnastics to be like if somebody got killed it's because gravity it's because gravity like it's like that line in collateral right I didn't kill them the bullets in the fall
Starting point is 01:01:15 killed him that is Jedi morality of like how we get them out like they still kill their enemies but like they didn't like murder anyone there's a lot of that happening and it does feel like in places the animators are like I want to make this I want to imply the violence that like we know is actually happening but they're not going to let me just show so kind of like atomizing a dude's blood supply in this cockpit Rob how many months away are we from manhunting getting now on Waypoint Plus from getting
Starting point is 01:01:46 to collateral this year oh yeah this year he hasn't made that many movies is the thing yeah that's the thing right once you get through yeah we got Moheekins next Which is going to be, I'm really, I'm really stoked for that. That's a great movie. Also a movie that understands some morality. But, yeah, so, like, also the way, like, the ship is breaking apart as it's spinning into a crash. Like, everything about it is, like, often, like, you know, this is kind of the defining thing of Star Wars from the First is, like, the, like, the, like, the Macquarie concepts and models for these things. Everything is very physically substantial
Starting point is 01:02:26 And you can imagine how pieces fit together And you can also imagine how they break apart And how they get smashed and how they wear down Here in this crash Like it is such a You can feel like you see and hear Like the whole buckling and cracking And like as the two Padua
Starting point is 01:02:41 Younglings are like brawling on top of the ship And being thrown around by like the motion of the ship And like all of it is Really weighty in a way that you know the show the show's had some great set pieces like this before like the when the Jedi
Starting point is 01:03:00 had that brawl in the high atmosphere of order ship that was a cool fight sequence but like this is probably the coolest sequence like and best lit sequence I've seen so far it's just awesome yeah the crash site it's like after it comes down there's it's like
Starting point is 01:03:19 dusk twilight sort of atmosphere sphere lighting um and there's like all this smoke and fire and like electricity sparking and like chewy comes out like it looks it looks really good it was impressive these two episodes are just like technically so so so strong quick question totally does chewy look good so i have something to say about chie yes okay in my humble opinion when you have fur it should move like he's like fur do like fur do like he's so slicked back his it feels like his head is one piece and there's like this like it ends you know around his like collarbone like nape of the
Starting point is 01:04:14 next situation like it's a hat like it's a hat helmet hat and then he has the rest of his body Do you think Faloni insisted on that Because the real Chewbacca is wearing a helmet Right Because he's just a guy in a suit I would assume yes But I'm like you can You can render the
Starting point is 01:04:35 Like you can make the wookie look so Like Like furry like wookie like furry And like creates a movement And the hair textures Like all right second canonical question Yeah Do you think his fur is all madded than gross
Starting point is 01:04:49 Because the Trandotians have not let him do his beauty regimen. I would say it doesn't look matted and gross. It looks like hyper slicked back. Yeah, it looks like gelled down. Or like overconditioned. He hasn't washed for a while. That's why he looks like oily.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. It's very funny that like they've clear like their animation resources are improving, but then they immediately take on the final boss of CG animation hair. Like they're like they've done a good job. avoiding it, they're like, how many different, like, aliens with, like, hair-like shapes, but they're actually, like, bits of skull and, like, skin? Like, how many different versions that can we do? Meanwhile, like, Anakin and Obi-Wan are using, like, you know, defining paste in their hair.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Like, that shit ain't moving. That's on lock. And then they're, like, all right, now we've got the best spaceship fight ever. It all looks great. What next? I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. What are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Chewbacca's hair. let's do it let's get it we got it and they don't they don't and also I feel like the rigging didn't feel amazing
Starting point is 01:05:57 with you about like his movement felt weird yeah and I couldn't like not in a way to really put my finger on but it just
Starting point is 01:06:05 did feel like you can almost sense that like the little wire frame skeleton underneath the model not quite moving right
Starting point is 01:06:13 yeah give it some time this is the first big wookie sequence we've seen right didn't we have the wookie
Starting point is 01:06:20 like battle so will he battle well in the movie in the movie oh is that all the way in the movie yeah and also but that's live action right like there's CG there but it's like still a lot of actors and suits
Starting point is 01:06:35 yeah I'm sure we've seen a wookie in the background maybe at some point but I don't think we've been like hanging with wookies yeah I was thinking about this because I was like where did Assoca learn how to speak whookies It's Han Solo rules.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Like in the Oceans movies, everyone can understand Chinese when spoken. But, like, because it's funny, because they're like, ha, ha, we're just going to, like, speak back in English. But we all, of course, we all understand Chinese. We're a bunch of robbers. I knew there was a word for it. It's Shiri Wook. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It's S-H-Y-R-I-W-O-O-K. Sherry Woof. That's the language? That's the language. There are other languages apparently too, but this is the one I know. Sure. Okay, yeah. Asoka is like so clearly doing the translating in that scene, though.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, totally. I kept wondering if there was a clone episode that I'd forgotten or she had picked this up. I wonder if she just... She took the she-wook elective. That's right. That's right. In her languages. She chose Shewick.
Starting point is 01:07:52 No one else took the class. It was just her and one wookie. I've just tried to find if there was any answer for this, no. It's just she knows it. She does seem like she doesn't struggle, but you can tell she's putting an effort. Yeah. When she's translating a little bit. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's not like, I don't know that she's like fluent, but she understands enough to get around. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Maybe she just, you know, I feel like, I feel like, is basic her? Do the, to Gruda speak basic as their, as their cultural, like, home language? Or, like, is she just picking up mad languages? Yeah, they speak. Oh, they have their own, they also have to Grudy, their own language.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So. Maybe she's just, like, a kind of like a young Obi-Wan, like, quite adept with, with languages. I could imagine, like, her and Plow studying languages together. You know what I mean? It seems like he knows languages. Yeah. Speaking of Plokun, I think that we skipped over a huge scene, which is the end of the first episode.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Do you want to explain it to us? So one of the things about Padilla Woodloss is that I was surprised at like how well-written it felt like Anakin was because everything that he said felt like it had weight to it, but was also like really succinct. Like there's a moment earlier when Plokun's like, we got to get off this place. that we can't just keep looking for her, where he's like, I'm not going to let her fate be up to anyone else, which is like really revealing in the fact that like he believes that like whatever is going to happen to Asoka is predetermined. But he also has this thing on his shoulder of like, well, I'm the
Starting point is 01:09:37 chosen one in these situations. I'm the only thing that can like change them. Or if I'm involved in this, the effect that I make will be bigger than whatever else I believe is supposed to happen. And I was like, damn, Anakin. That's how he thinks of the world. But then, so this is, okay, and this is last seat of the episode, fantastic. We got a Q&A question a while ago that was like, how would you change the end of an episode to make it better? And my new answer is to have two people have a really succinct conversation
Starting point is 01:10:10 about the differences in their relationships to a third person. That's how Clodore should always end. But they're back on Coruscant. Anakin's like looking at a space map and he's very emo about it. Plokun walks in and like, isn't even like, hi, how are you? How are you feeling? He immediately says, what is Asoka's strength? And I wrote down this whole thing so I could just read it.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So it's, please. What is Assook's strength? She is fearless. That could also be a weakness. Is she a worthy apprentice? No one has her kind of determination except you. I'll find her. this may not be within your power
Starting point is 01:10:50 whatever you're trying to say master plo just say it and then Messer plo says I am suggesting that perhaps if you trained her well that she will take care of herself and find her way back to you it's good shit
Starting point is 01:11:05 it's good it's really good shit but it's also not at all how Asoka gets back to him the reason why Isoka gets back to him is because Chewy shows up and knows how to build a radio out of
Starting point is 01:11:19 Okay, but If Chewy had showed up I think of it this way If Chewy had showed up But Assoco wasn't there Would those young ones have gotten off that planet? No Chewy might have got off that planet
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh sure That's true That's true Well you don't know that Because they would have went out of their little Hubble They never would have gone They would have been like
Starting point is 01:11:43 I'm gonna blow up the next spaceship He's not gonna team up They don't even speak the language Oh sure Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Soca needs to be there to... I want to believe in my heart that she would be like, what's up, kids?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Let's get out of here. Again, if we just got an episode just about Chewy, Chooey could have done it, but... Yeah, I've, yeah. Anyway, it's good that Plokuna trusts Assoca so much more than Anagan does, and like that this dynamic is on the screen in terms of being like, you can't always be there to protect her. What you should have been doing this whole time is like letting
Starting point is 01:12:18 her and trusting that she can protect herself. Yeah, I hear that but I'm also like I'm also like Plokoon There's there's a
Starting point is 01:12:32 There's a reasonable chance that Osoga doesn't make it out of this Like he has no idea Oh without Chewy Just in general There are so many things outside She's one Padawan
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah But Anakin's been here before, not to this moon specifically, but Anakin's been off by himself alone when he was a Padawan at some point and got out of some similar shit. Yeah. I think this is a super important moment for Anakin coming off of that mortis arc where the whole thing was about him being too controlling and being too, you know, over controlling about her. And their little spat story in that last arc and on the Citadel was a lot about the same shit and whether or not he could trust her. And, like, I think it goes back to what Rob was saying at the beginning, which is, like, by all intense measures, this is Asoka proving that she can be on her own and get shit done. And this isn't the first time, you know, I'm thinking about this whole season has been Assoca doing this again and again. She went and did the Pantora stuff without approval.
Starting point is 01:13:36 She went and did the stuff on a Mandalora, she was assigned, but, like, that was her assignment when she went there and rooted out the corruption, quote unquote. I mean, it was corruption, but, yeah. and then she went with Padme on the... She went with Padmae twice. She went with Padmae when she got assassins when she was having the visions and everyone was like, all right, Osoka, calm down. We all have dreams.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yoder was like, oh, that's fine. I guess go with her or whatever. And so she went and protected her from, what's her face? The batty with the head antenna. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Damn it. What's her name?
Starting point is 01:14:11 She had Boba Fett's adopted mom and... Honda's wife. Hondo's ex-wife. Honda's ex-wife. what is her name or sing or sing okay thank you and she went with padmay behind enemy lines to the separatist HQ to the regency manner where she met that boy oh yeah she's like asoka's been doing shit on the side all season that's true and it does
Starting point is 01:14:38 feel a little bit like and also you have to remember Anakin does not know that she is on the murder planet yeah Anakin she could be just still on Felusha somewhere. She could be off doing force shit. So like it's not like he has the particulars in mind about how bad things are for Asoka. I guess that means you could imagine whatever he wants that. I'm more so saying
Starting point is 01:15:00 that from Plow Coon's perspective it's like there still is this underlying like of course he's like yes I trust Asoka that she will be fun. But it's also I think there's an underlying implication of detachment in which
Starting point is 01:15:16 Like, Anakin, you cannot be the one to save Asoka right now. Like, you also... People are allowed to be agents who... This is Anakin's core problem, is that he does not accept that other people can take their own wins and losses. Yeah. That you do not need to be the person who steps in to fix things for everyone you care for. that they have to have the agency
Starting point is 01:15:47 to fuck up sometimes and I know sometimes that means that they end up on a murder moon but so this is like I love both these scenes with Anakin and Plow and I'm with Ali I think they're both
Starting point is 01:16:01 really well written and he helps that like the performance for Plow in this episode is so good that like his few lines every one of them lands like an anvil like on Anakin and it's really effective
Starting point is 01:16:16 because when they're leaving Felusha I think like one is that Plow doesn't want to leave either except that they've searched multiple times they're not going to find her if they were going to like Annegan is spinning his wheels and like yelling at Rex like search again if she was here Rex's like team would have found her
Starting point is 01:16:36 like it's like the recognition that we are at a loss like us staying here and feeling bad about it will also not achieve anything and I think it's, and there's a bit of that Jedi detachment, but I think with Plow, it's often, like, it's like, if you imagine the virtuous version of, like, what becomes a vice
Starting point is 01:16:52 across the Jedi writ large, is that, like, for Plow in this situation, because Plow cares about, like, plow is her other mentor in a lot of ways, right? He's a nickname for her. He's a different nickname for her than Snips, doesn't it? Yeah. And so, like, I think, like, for him,
Starting point is 01:17:09 it is also this recognition that, like, yes, one, other people have agency. two sometimes shit goes bad and you take two for the company like this is like we are we're at war we're a warrior order like we will lose our minds and ourselves if we go through this like thinking that the worst thing that can happen is one of us gets got like this just like sometimes that's going to happen we can't do anything about it and you've got it like it's time to leave this planet and at the end it's time to trust that like either she like if anyone can get out of this
Starting point is 01:17:45 it's Asoka but crucially we can't like if we knew where she was we would go get her but like she is on her own and we just have to trust that like we did our best prepare her for this and Anakin because of his experiences still lives in that mindset of
Starting point is 01:18:01 not that I can save everyone because he knows by this point he can't but that he should have saved everyone like every single one of these things sticks with him right like it's just all a growing train of like people he should have saved and didn't quite manage to
Starting point is 01:18:19 and Asoka again because he can't talk about this stuff like he can't tell that he can't even know he can't tell anyone about like how he lost his mom because tied to that story is the massacre he can't explain to anyone like hey by the way
Starting point is 01:18:35 you told me not to like sweat the thing of the business with my mom and she was fucking enslaved and murdered and I got there just a second too late if you'd help me, it wouldn't have gone that way. Can't talk about that because it's tied to the other, like, mortal sin. Yeah. Fucked up.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And this is what you get when you have two characters to talk about their relationship to a third character. Allie's right. I also really like, because this is a dynamic in the last episode, and I'm glad it's not something that Clone Wars just dropped because that sometimes happens. But, like, this sort of, like, trickle down where you can see the, the, the, how. how Anakin is in relation to the Jedi above him, where it's like Obi-Wan and Plow are there to, are still mentoring him while he's mentoring Asoka. And then also like mentoring Asoka over him
Starting point is 01:19:30 because they don't have confidence in his confidence in her and his ability and his like decision making, yada. Where like I don't know where Anakin is supposed to get that confidence from. ever yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's tough it's like a fucked up situation or like it's a situation that would be less fucked up if they talked about it and then arrived at like some sort of thing where there was like exactly aniken like we're in the middle of a war and like not that tone because that tone's already very dismissive of his thing but like if it was we joked last time about how plow feels like Asoka's like second reader on her thesis and like maybe having a
Starting point is 01:20:12 single master to a single Padawan is not the best way of doing this. Maybe there should be formally the sense that like a Padawan has relationships with multiple like masters and multiple teachers and that like that relationship should be dispersed a little bit and that weight should be dispersed a little bit because there are different people have different expertise and different things and it puts a lot of weight on a single master to do it the right way and like not to quote unquote fuck up and where any mistakes that they have as like fatal errors on their part, you know? So like I think that you're right that it, that the way it's set up really opens up
Starting point is 01:20:50 the door for Anakin to feel like shit about stuff and to take a lot of it on to himself whenever Asoka does go to somebody else or whenever somebody else does go over his head to let Asoka, you know, onto a mission that he has said no to, you know, like Annikin was wrong about Asoka not being able to do the Citadel mission, but he did tell her not to do it. And then she did it. And it's like, all right. Well, like, what is this? What are we doing? Like, what are we doing here? You're my paddle on. You don't respect me. You fundamentally just like, I told you like, don't come on this and you came on it. Maybe I was wrong about that. But the, but you were also, you also said no to my shit. And like, I don't know. She doesn't
Starting point is 01:21:29 get any consequence because Plow Coon backs her up instead of blacking up Anakin. Like, even if it was like a coworker relationship, you want to maintain. And a year ago, that wasn't the case. a year ago, she would have had to go down with Sunube for a week and mop the fucking library for it. Actually, something else, though, I wanted, because this occurred with the, I knew we're on a tangent here, but the thing last week where he was like, I don't want you
Starting point is 01:21:51 on this mission. I understood his, like, to me it felt like not paying off the thing where it's like a fucked up Jedi prison. There's, like, I don't want to see some of this stuff, it's going to be bad. But the other thing is, I couldn't figure out, like, was this mission that was more dangerous than most of the other shit they've done? But it has felt
Starting point is 01:22:07 at times, that he's getting more anxious over Assoca than he was in the earlier seasons, that, like, as their bond grows stronger, he's becoming more controlling and more, like, dominated by this feeling of, like, impending loss or potential loss, and that's changing his risk assessments around her. And, like, these two, like, arcs back-to-back kind of, like, cemented this for me is, like, when she was sent down a study under Sunubates, because she had, like, flagrantly breached orders
Starting point is 01:22:35 and, like, hung her entire, like, unit out to dry and had to be bailed. Like, it was her and a bunch of clones that were going to pay the price of your hubris. That was Fallujah, wasn't it? Yeah, exactly. It was a different Felushia. Fulia, not Fallujah.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Different place. Or is it? But, yeah, but like this season, like in places it has felt like, wow, Anakin is getting, like, Aniken is starting to like get this really parental, like, nope, too dangerous, can't let you do that,
Starting point is 01:23:03 in a way that he wasn't the first couple season. It does feel like it's because, The family unit has been redefined. And she's going through the classic teenage thing, which is like, oh shit, dad doesn't understand what war is, right? Like, there's that scene of walking with Padmay and Anakin through the Senate hallway where he's like, let me tell you what war is, Sniffs. War is when there's bad guys out there.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And then there's me, the good guy. And I'm going to get them all, and we're going to bring peace back to the galaxy. That's what war is. And, like, her having to be like, oh, fuck. Like, oh, fuck, this is the dude who's supposed to teach me everything. So that's a tough spot to be in. And we'll get to something. But also, yeah, we'll get to where this ends with what their relationship looks like, right?
Starting point is 01:23:51 Because. But first, Chewy. It seems like a change. Chewy needs a radio transmitter. And so they go back to the crash ship to get the radio transmitter. They have a whole brawl. Chewy gets the, like, he rigs up his little transmitter. but the other
Starting point is 01:24:07 those other motherfucking like younglings now having sort of had one thing go kind of right they are
Starting point is 01:24:17 fully like DAC ready to take on the empire themselves they're like we got a plan and Assoca's like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:24:24 what is it we're gonna take out their base and she's like that's rather ambitious don't you think and they're like Asoka
Starting point is 01:24:33 you told us to believe in ourselves and fight back. We're just doing that. Let us fight the base. We're children, but we're 50. And so she turns to Chewy
Starting point is 01:24:48 and she's like, okay, we both know this is a shitty idea. Let's entertain the kids. Yeah, let's go with them. You just send the message on repeat. Have it call every five minutes with the message. But yeah, in the meantime, Chewy, sorry.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Like, I would feel super exposed if we both did go on the suicide mission with the kids and their mission is to my I mean I did I had that whole setup before about how fucked up mind control is uh and I invented something and I could have just done this one right which is like again in in legends canon ala you joked about this earlier you set this up a little bit earlier the Trandotians have a god called the scorekeeper, a goddess named the scorekeeper who is like their head
Starting point is 01:25:40 deity or whatever and like the hunt is truly a religious thing. That doesn't show up here, but at the very least we do know that this seems to be a key core part of who they are as a culture. So it's like admin global chat in an MMO
Starting point is 01:25:55 where like you want to get those like first Chivos on the server. Rob, you literally collect points. Yeah, basically. Yeah. It's an XP system. It literally is that. Natalie's over there being like,
Starting point is 01:26:08 hmm, a scorekeeper you said. I don't know. Maybe there's some wisdom in these ways. But don't worry, Jinks is going to fucking mind control you and be like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:26:23 Fuck up this whole hunt. Fuck up this whole cultural ritual you have. Call home, tell them you need a speeder to pick you up. You know, what happened is you got captured by us, but then you got freed. And this is maybe the most fucked.
Starting point is 01:26:36 There's one shot in this sequence that is the most fucked up force persuasion the Jedi mind trick has ever looked, which is when he's like, when this guy, I forget what his name is, I forget what this particular Trindotian's name is, is about to walk out onto the beach to get picked up by the speeder. He like looks back at Jinks,
Starting point is 01:26:54 and Jinks was like, hand over his face. He's like, keep it cool. And the Trondotian's like, yeah. And he does like a little nod to be like, Got it, buddy. Got it, boss. And it's like, you just fucked this dude's whole brain up. You fucked up his whole brain.
Starting point is 01:27:08 You rewired that whole shit. So fucked up. That's worse than a for show to be. He looks like a dog when he nods. This is what I'm saying. Yeah. I, yeah. You're gonna make him do his own guys like this?
Starting point is 01:27:19 Like he, like you're dapping, like you're got, you're dapping each other up at this point. You're essentially like, just like you're doing the chest bump mind. in the mind as he's going out to call all of his homies to come get God. And the second they touch down, they jump him too. Like, they don't even give him a second because they're like, you know what? He's probably, we're going to be busy with this fight.
Starting point is 01:27:47 We're going to break. He's going to break the hole probably. It's like playing Xcom and being like, we should probably shoot the guy we have mind controlled, even though we have him for another turn because he's going to turn back on that. Austin, you and I would Anakin, like Anakin, Anakin, Anakin Heights. they're broken flag down
Starting point is 01:28:05 for people who don't know Rob and I have a like 40 episode long Xcom 2 play through on across like four years of our lives yeah truly like it's a long fucking time yeah of our lives so but we would like feel bad about like
Starting point is 01:28:25 oh I don't want to kill our little line control buddy he's been so good for us Jinks is just like Dunzo Snick If you could do it in this turn Why wait to next turn? Why wait for next turn?
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah No Damn So they They They Just They get on the ship
Starting point is 01:28:49 They're They jacked the ATV And just ride it up there And And that's where the plan ran out And then And then Chubbock
Starting point is 01:28:59 Well, luckily, Chewbacca's failed radio magically starts working. It goes, and it starts transmitting signal. And I guess he left a voice note on it. He did. It's like playing to do a big tape recorder or something. Yeah. So the message gets out to his wookie comrades. and they decide to, you know, come, come and help out.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Just in time, because this fight isn't going great. This fight, like, for a moment it's okay, and then it just stops going back. Exactly. And we see two of our old friends, two of our old bounty hunter friends, Sugi. We sure do. The one of the many bald baddies of the Clone Wars. and Serapas, one of the many little freaks, little funny freaks.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Do you want to know why they show up here? I mean, yes. Is it something stupid? Are we going to the zone? Or we're going to the philonia. I have not re-uploaded this, so we have to watch it on the official thing.
Starting point is 01:30:19 But that's fine. As long as it loads fine for everybody, it should. If it doesn't, we can clean it up in post. I just have to pull this down and do all that stuff. All right. Let me know what's loaded. Loaded and then rewind back to zero,
Starting point is 01:30:35 so we're all lined up. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yep. Ready. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, three, two, one, go. Where is she?
Starting point is 01:30:47 This one was faster than most. Wait, did I have sound? I've lost the scent. Yeah, there's a button at the bottom right. She can't hide forever. Wookie Hunt brings us to the end of season three. It is the final part of the story where Asoka fights her way off this island and who better to come to the aid of this Paduan than the very famous Chewbacca the Wookie.
Starting point is 01:31:20 During the course of telling this story, we had the moment where the wukis arrived to save the day. But as we moved into the design with it, Killian Plunkin and I kept talking about, well, how do the Wookiees get to this moon? A spaceship. What do they travel? A spaceship. It felt very strange that the Wookies would have these kind of deep space travel of vehicles. I know that they built a kind of pod that Yoda travels in and revenge of the Sith,
Starting point is 01:31:48 but nothing quite fit, you know, that they would have anything the size of like a rubble blockade or even a shuttle. It seemed to be against their... culture to have something that progressive that they were traveling off world how we feel about that makes more sense that the wukies would hire someone so George came up the idea that wukies have these people that they're friendly with and and they can get around from place to place so I suggested well why don't we bring back Sugi and Sarah Pazze because Sugi has this awesome ship called the Halo and in bounty hunters it doesn't do anything it doesn't go anywhere
Starting point is 01:32:20 it just sits in a hanger I thought well this would be a great way we get the halo flying so we had to actually had to extend the cargo Bay of the Halo because there really wasn't one before, and I needed to carry all these wookies around suddenly. So we had to revamp the model and redress it and redesign it. And then we got to bring Sugi and Serapus back to the show. And I think it made for a really fun little cameo. I really wanted Ambo to be here so bad.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Make it quick, General. We're charging by the minute. And if my ship gets damaged, it'll cost you extra. There's something about that moment that feels very genuinely Star Wars. But here's this fantastic world and these wookie soldiers coming and they've hired this galactic taxi cab and she's complaining about something as mundane as, you better be quick because I'm charging you by the minute.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Meanwhile, we've been on this journey with Asoka and Chewy and we need to get him out of here and she's worried about the fair. It just felt really to me authentic. It felt like, yeah, that's just a bit our world, but so galactically out there that that reminded me of Star Wars. And it's probably, though, it's only one shot
Starting point is 01:33:23 we really see her in before the landing platform at the end, It's one of my favorite moments in the whole episode when the Wookiee's arrive with the Bounty Hunters to save the day. Yep, of course it is. His little grin, his little grin. He means it. He means it in his heart. He's speaking with his whole chest when he's like, it's my favorite. He's entitled to it.
Starting point is 01:33:44 When that was happening in the episode, I was like, I love this. This is great. Yeah. I'm happy they showed up. Again, I only wish Enbo was there. Where's Enbo at? But also, I think Wookies can have space. ships.
Starting point is 01:33:56 That's the other thing. Wickees can have spaceships. I don't think it's too progressive for their culture to have a spaceship. They shoot big-ass guns. They don't have a law against it, right? Yeah, they have big guns. They have big-ass guns. I guess the thing is, you'd say, because did he feel that locked in by the little escape pod they put Yoda in, where it's like clearly the wookies don't have like a fleet of ships.
Starting point is 01:34:25 hanging out. They have these. In case of emergency, we're going to put you in our big acorn and fire you off into space. But I don't know if that's a good. You could have a ship for your guys, like a full-sized ship for people to travel, and you could have your VIP acorn. I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Can't you take me to the real wookie ship? No, our culture says you have to get the acorn. You know? For people who want to to see what we're talking about. You can go to Wikipedia and look up homemade evacuation pod. Is that the official name?
Starting point is 01:35:03 Right. Also called Kashik pods. This is even more advanced structural space technology for me. Because like with traditional escape pods, you have to have the whole ship. To have like just, I just have to escape on my own. This lunches through the atmosphere? Yeah. Fucking, Corrasson don't have anything like this.
Starting point is 01:35:25 It probably has to get picked up. I probably can't like go through hyperspace or whatever. Oh my God, there's a cross section. With a little Yoda in it. Here we go. Wow. Optical sensor, window, sensor processor, and guidance computer. Head rest design.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Headrest designed to accommodate a wookie's height. Awkwardly adjusted seat restraint. Wow. I think this looks great. They could build spaceship. If they could build this shit, they could build space. Imagine a dozen of these landing on the fucking floating platform. episode is about fucking Chewbacca making a radio out of ship parts are you kidding me
Starting point is 01:36:03 Chupacca's literally known for being epic at fucking fixing ships and shit what are you talking about what are you talking about he literally co-pilots the fucking Millennium Falcon It's a little too progressive. But he's max level, cross-classed. Yeah, cross-class, yeah. Oh, he didn't pick up pilot yet. It is.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That was released in the Star Wars expansion, so he didn't pick up that class yet. He's still Maruder. Was the implication there that the Wookie helicopter gunships have a style? And it's like, but they've got the, if they got helicopter gunships, it feels like they could just have spaceships, too. Like, no. It doesn't make cooler, bigger helicopter, but. for space. Just do that.
Starting point is 01:36:58 That radio he made transmits like far because it goes through space to get to a different planet. Like it's not like he built like a little ham radio. No, it's literally transmitting into the
Starting point is 01:37:09 fucking galaxy. Yeah, yep. And he made it out of what? Out of a tape recorder and some nuts and bolts he got on the ship. It's really funny. It's really bad.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Look, the wookies just need to outsource all of his space travel needs to merchant guilds. This is a reminder to me. Someone messaged us on Twitter to mention that there are now Star Wars Galaxy's fan servers up and running. I want to say it had a name. It was like Star Wars Galaxy something, something, something. Yeah, we got an email about that when we mentioned it. Are you pre-Jed Jedi update? Like, spec?
Starting point is 01:37:58 That's the real question. I think that they did explicitly say that it is before, yeah, that it's before they fucked around with it. Maybe this was actually to me not to that. I'm willing to go. I'm willing to go. I'm willing to go. We just do like menial jobs.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Yeah. Yeah. Like driving loophies to battles to do exciting things. I don't get to go into the battle. The wookies go into the battle I just drive them And I charge them a really aggressive rate I charge them by a minute
Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah exactly 100% At the minute I start taking ground fire I reach over the lever and flip it to the max rate Oh god Hey you want this rate to go off You take out that AA Then I could land God I can't find it but someone did message us
Starting point is 01:38:52 Maybe it was just an email or is a Patreon message or something out. I don't remember. But there is one out there, and I forget what it's called, and we should look into it. Yeah. So, I think it's Star Wars Galaxy's Legends is what I think it might be called. So we'll take a peek. If you're out there and you're playing on it, you should let us know what the vibe is like.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Can I be, can I come be a dancer in a canteen? Can I own a little house on tattooing, et cetera? Farmer vibes. Farmer vibes. Did it farm that moisture. If we're on board, I will, like, go back to that email and, like, look, into it like capital i'll look into it i'm down i'm down
Starting point is 01:39:28 like because there's a world in which that is a really fun decompressed game at the end of the day just do my dailies yeah you know what i mean well hold on what dailies has came specifically get the moisture from the moisture farm uh you know just like
Starting point is 01:39:50 tend to my space crops i'm gonna open my herb shop from, you know, 12 to 5 so people can come through. Raff Koster wrote like an entire postmortem about why all your quality of life bullshit ruined his vision. Like, you have no idea how awesome
Starting point is 01:40:05 is Star Wars game was. But I'm making my own dailies. You know what I'm... I'm saying, okay, this is what I need to get done today. And... Got to clean the lines in your canteena. Got to change the kegs out. Got to change the oil in my R2 unit? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:40:23 This is the dream Can you play as a droid in that game? I hope so Can I play as a droid Star Wars Galaxies And they're not gonna fucking know Oh it's a pet droids are pets Crafted by engineering traders
Starting point is 01:40:40 Capable performing functions such as combat And crafting assistants Damn there's mad droids you can craft You craft mad droids We have to go We gotta go I want just like four billion droid friends And, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Mm-hmm. Oh, I love that they show the, um, which, you know, the little roller, roly-pollies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Droidcas. Droidcas, yes. But, yeah, no, the plan, the plan does fizzle. The, the wookies totally do, like, pull their fat out of the fire. But, you know, I will say, I'll give, I'll give the Trandotians this, stronger than they look.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I was like, these wookies are going to get here, and they're going to pull these guys, arms off as as Han sort of implied they they're known to do but like hey the trans oceans and wookies were just trading blows and it was like oh I guess the trans oceans are also like mad jacked like it's just like huge like lots of muscle mass just pounding the shit out of each other um cool then why weren't they on the ground then why weren't they on the ground being honorable fucking warriors instead of being in their little You ever been to a weightlifting for him? Like, I mean.
Starting point is 01:42:00 So, also, by the way, in this sequence, I do see, like, people talking about, like, hey, man, what if that Bit Reactor game that's made by the X-For Axis people, like, that's the new Star Wars game that's going to be, like, overseen by respawn, but really it's Greg Forchus Studio. When the little youngling moves the cover to. expose the Trandotian who's shooting at the Wookiees and they just ace him. I was like yeah, I can see
Starting point is 01:42:30 that game. I would play this shit out of a game where like I'm doing shit like this. Yeah. Is this the episode? What does it? We should get to the end of this episode. Yeah. Trophy rooms. She kills Garnack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:48 By mistake. She even begs him not to reach that gun. Well, it's, okay, but the scene when, like, she's, like, in the cockpit and looking around and the music is swelling, and that he appears behind her with a fucking axe, that shit whipped. It was, yeah. I think this whole fight is, like, pretty good, honestly.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It's a fight in that throne room. It has all the, the trophies all over the place. It's fun to see, we talked a lot about how Assoca's gotten, like her own fighting style developed over the last few episodes, especially, with the two sabers. I mean, she's already had her underhand style, but now it's really distinct. And here she just doesn't have it. She never has a lightsaber in these episodes after the opening sequence, but she still feels like Asoka to me. I also just realized, I've skipped the actual sickest Jedi maneuver in this entire episode,
Starting point is 01:43:43 which is when Jinks and Omer are fighting on top of the ship to try to bring it down. the one that has Chewbacca in it. One of them does like a jump kick and the other one uses the force to like propel him forward into the other dude at a faster rate. Yes. It's like a fastball special that he did in the middle of the air. It was really good. It's really sick.
Starting point is 01:44:08 It's really good. That's a high. I think, you know what? I take it all back. They do that and that's the moment where they get their confidence. Because they did that sick maneuver. That's why they're like, all right, let's go. We could go do that like eight times and take over the whole mothership.
Starting point is 01:44:22 they're wrong but I get where it comes from but yeah so then they get through the rookie save the day they get a ride back to Corrassant Asoka and Anakin
Starting point is 01:44:34 reunite Asoka you know Anakin puts his hands on her shoulder and they don't quite hug but there is obviously a clear happiness Plow comes up
Starting point is 01:44:44 like photo bombs the situation sticks his head into the middle before Anakin can say anything else like before Anakin can say anything other than, like, I'm glad you're, I think he's like, I'm glad you're okay. Plow comes over, he's like, it's good to see you safe, little Soca. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:45:00 It's so good. And there's like, Anakin kind of gets a face. Yeah. I didn't realize it before. But he's a little like, this is my moment. Like, what do you mean, little Soca? That's not what we, that's not. Right?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Y'all have a nickname? Y'all got a nickname. He's getting a little jelly. Yeah. Uh-huh. And then he says, Asoka, I'm so sorry. And she goes, for one. What? And he goes, for letting you go, for letting you get caught. It was my fault. And she's like, uh, I don't, that's not how I, she's like, I should have tried harder. I should have paid more attention. And she's like, you've already done everything you could by training me. You did everything you had to do. Like, I was out there alone. But every time I, you know, everything that I had, the one thing that I had was your training, the lessons you taught me. Uh, and because of that training, I survived. Uh, you know, and, and he, she's, she's, she's, she's.
Starting point is 01:45:51 says thank you to him and he says you're welcome right that's how it ends good good master good you're welcome my paddle on yeah good on asoka for uh after surviving the death moon um coming home and you know doing some emotional labor for her for her check for her rentified osoka cannot catch a break like she gets back and he's just falling apart and she's like uh no like actually you're you are a good dad you do teach me it was the lessons you taught me that got me back to you safe papa it's like it's it's a rough down bad moment for anakin um I mean I like I in some ways I really respect I really appreciate the fact that Anakin is showing his feelings here is like showing like I was so worried about you I feel like I failed you I thought
Starting point is 01:46:56 I could have lost you like I should have done things differently like that's good I like when when we see feelings from Jedi it was a little it was kind of wild to see Asoka take such like a especially off the like plow coon coming in between and being like good have you back little guy and and Asoka then taking this like very like poised position and speaking to
Starting point is 01:47:30 Anakin in this like perfectly calm way it was like whoa she worked on it right you think like on the way back she was like all right I'm going to tell him that I was okay that his training got me through it
Starting point is 01:47:45 he's going to be chill because I'm going to like, we're going to make sure everything is okay. And, like, if you've had relationships with people in your life like this, you know that that is the sort of stuff you end up practicing. 100%. 100%. I feel like it is something practiced, but in this instance, she, you don't get the, like, there's no break.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Like, she holds so strong for him that it feels like she's really internalizing this mode of Jedi like non-emotion like I need to I need to be perfectly poised we don't kill people out of hatred like it's like two Jedi for me I'm like it's like a little weird
Starting point is 01:48:33 I'm like Asoka you don't need to go full Jedi like that like you can be still you know the sort of temperamental emotional but it's it definitely feels like a big this is a social
Starting point is 01:48:47 She's going into her next phase of Jedi-ness. Like, she is... We've seen where she can be temperamental, and it's with Plow Coon, who is poised and placid. And it's like, she's going to be the person who is like, all right, master, let's take it slow with Anakin, and then she's going to go Plow Coon and be like, what the fuck is wrong with Anathan?
Starting point is 01:49:10 Why does he trust me to be da-da-da-da-da-da. And again, I think we have to get rid of this notion of there being one master and one Padawan. I agree. This, you know, it takes a village to raise a Padawan. And like sometimes you need a little, you need someone else that you can let off steam with. I do think there's like a different angle to, to, that's worth looking at this from because of like the history that we've seen with the way Anakin and Asoka, like, communicate with each other. It's like a little bit of a relief to see this sort of moment that can just be an emotional moment
Starting point is 01:49:43 between them. Like they don't fall back on teasing each other. or, like, insulting each other. They, like, I mean, Asoka's really taking the front of it here because of Anakin, but, like, at least there is just, like, a pure support and not, Assoco, why don't you come back sooner or whatever? And, like, he was, like, he was willing to be like, these are what I actually felt. And Asoka's willing to be like, well, this is how I actually feel about what our relationship is. I don't think she's lying to be clear.
Starting point is 01:50:14 I do. And I, and, you know, she was trained well. enough to get through this. She's not wrong that when she says, you know, that I, that, that I was able to lead others because of the training I had, right? Like the experiences she had got her through that. And also, Chewbacca was like that. A whole bunch. You know, part of the experiences of being a Jedi is sometimes luck just seems to be on your side. You know, sometimes the right person shows up. The force finds a way. And the right person is always one of ten people. Or related to them. Yes. I, it was really frustrating watching it.
Starting point is 01:50:47 this week. Yeah. I, we should cut this. I don't know if anyone's caught up above right now. I'm not. I am like how episodes behind. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:56 I have extreme feelings about loop closing in Star Wars in this moment. And I was like, does you not have to fucking be here? Like, really? Yeah, the answer was yes, apparently.
Starting point is 01:51:10 So, yeah, I don't know. The actual final shot of the season, as people begin disperse across this landing pad. I thought we were going to get Chewy catching up with his old friend, Yoda. But maybe this is where they meet for the first time so that when Revenge of the Sith happens, this is how Yoda knows the lookies. Secrets revealed. Was that the final secret? Was it? The final secret? Chewbacca and Cloat Wars? Yes. It was,
Starting point is 01:51:40 yeah, it was Chewbacca and Cloan Wars. It was 100%. It was literally verbatim Chubbacca and Cloverst. Yeah, 100%. I love a season of I love to learn that Chewbago is in the Clone Wars. I didn't know that. He didn't know it before. Secrets are real. But it ends on Yoda
Starting point is 01:51:56 kind of just looking at Asoka and Anakin walk off, right? And being, and like, kind of just appraising the situation. What do we think his final look means here? Nailed it.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Yeah. I guess it's actually looking at them walk off into the hangar The hangar bay He's like, yeah, it worked out I assigned the right people together Don't need to worry about Anakin anymore It was like a fun
Starting point is 01:52:27 acknowledgement of growth But it's like, Yudda, you can't take claim on any of that I don't know Not approvingly This has nothing to do with you I don't even believe that Yota was the one That assigned Assoca to
Starting point is 01:52:41 Like who was in charge of that matchup I think it was wasn't it? Didn't that come down from Oh, because it was originally Obi-1 thought that he was getting a new Padawan And then it was like, no, I'm assigned to Anakin. Oh, fuck. Yoda did do it.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Goddain. It's from the movie. It's from the movie. Okay. If I remember right. Yeah, you were right. So I guess, yeah, it is kind of, it does feel like a kind of like,
Starting point is 01:53:10 you have to be like, hmm, a good match I made. Yeah. Uh-huh. This is actually the beginning of Emma is about to happen, and Yoda's getting hyped on his own shirt. You know what else would be virtuous is bringing Anakin and Palpatine closer together to bridge the gap between the Jedi Council and the Chancellor's show. It's so good. Clearly, I'm at odds with Palpatine because he can't give me the second piece of that weird code from the last episode. So I should use a soak in Anakin to get closer to him.
Starting point is 01:53:45 I really hope that comes back up I really wanted to I really wanted to I want them to like beef over it I want to see some fucking beef I want to see some real Jedi Council versus Senator Palpatine
Starting point is 01:54:03 just beef just like give me some drama give me like a little like political drama episode a couple of those give me a little arc where it's like very like succession style like some backstabbing, some, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:54:19 I just want to see some real drama. We're not going to get it, but I just want to say it. Maybe I'll manifest it. Maybe try to manifest it for us. Let's go. I just want to a quick follow up on a thing I said last time before I forget this, which is last time I had that big rant about how Obi-Wan needs to offer material things to Anakin. And I really sat.
Starting point is 01:54:44 I was like, why did I get so heated about that? And the answer is that like this is also my beef with like political centrists who or like not just political centrists because like there is a type of political speaker, both both formal in the sense of elected officials, but also just inside of the realm of discourse who who wants to adhere to the proper rules for the sake of the proper rules and and does not ever think about what the material. cost or benefit is. And Obi-Wan talking to Anakin about how you have to do things because you need to have a code and you need to not risk your honor, like, is like, otherwise we'll be just like Mitch McConnell. You know what I mean? Like, that is the shit. That is, like, we can't do, we can't redistrict. We can't, we can't, you know, a gerrymander, like, otherwise you're just like the Republicans. It's like, I'm going to lose these elections. Like that's- This is sometimes I think about, like, one of the signal victories allegedly of, like, some of the progressive movement is breaking up, like, political machines and such.
Starting point is 01:55:48 And, like, creating professionalized, detached, completely, like, rule adherent, like, models for politicians and civil service that completely break the connections between government and community and create a model where, like, government ain't good. respond to shit you don't know who they are they have no connections to you they don't bring any of the goods back like what we need are professional life cores of people who are there by merit and it's just going to work out that it's going to be completely detached from every community they're overseeing and by the way we're going to prioritize the rule so much then we're not going to care if they if they like nail it um yep anyway that's all my last little my last little follow so I think my internet is also getting a little glitchy
Starting point is 01:56:39 because Natalie just noted that night And you guys have been stuttering for me So I've had a few internet issues here So we should probably wrap up here So yeah, let's make it a wrap on today's show And on season three We will start on season four In our next regular episode in two weeks' time
Starting point is 01:56:54 Next week however Patreon backers We'll get to hear us answer questions About these episodes, the Citadel arc And the third season as a whole And I think near the very start of March We will record a bonus episode episode as we process our thoughts and feelings on the book of Boba Fat. If you'd like to hear that or just want to support the show, you can do so at patreon.com
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Starting point is 01:57:41 The particular Star Wars Galaxies thing that someone sent to me was Star Wars Galaxies Restoration 3, which is different than Star Wars Galaxy's legends. So we're going to have to really find which Star Wars Galaxies vibe slash mod we're going to want to actually use. So I'll do some research. If people out there in the world have thoughts, let us know. well until then please rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and remember if someone spends their days hunting you for sport it's okay to be angry at them when you turn the tables and finally kill them I'm going to be able to be.

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