A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 31: Shadow Warrior & the C-3PO and R2-D2 Arc (Clone Wars 70 - 72)

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

You know. It happens, right? We've all had a few bad misses in a row, haven't we? And I know what you're thinking, "hey, are you talking about the quality of the show or the misadventures of C-3PO and... R2-D2?" And obviously the answer is both. The good news is that we have a lot of fun talking through our issues with these episodes. And we think (or at least we hope) that the coming arc is going to turn things around. NEXT TIME: Episodes 73 - 74 ("Darkness on Umbara" and "The General") You can support the show and gain access to a monthly Q&A cast by going to patreon.com/civilized Show Notes Me walking in the pub after lockdown   Gaming with the bros tiktok   British lads hit each other with chair Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Alicia Acampora Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Clone Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zakney, joined by Ali Akimpora, Austin, Austin, and Natalie Watson. So today we are tackling season four's wacky hijinks arc, and an uneven series of episodes centering on favorite comic relief characters whose weakest points probably retread Star Wars most problematic, propensities, but there are some unexpected highlights that come via a dry sense of humor and increasingly confident animation team. Maybe too confident in times, but still. Let's start with Shadow Warrior, which features Anakin and Padmei racing to Nabu to deal with a crisis. The new leader
Starting point is 00:00:51 of the Gungans, Bosnione, is preparing to attack the city of Theid and the human Naboo who live there. While it first sounds like generations of resentment is boiling over, it turns out that there is a more crushingly disappointing explanation for all this. Gungenggrima Wormtong, who I swear to God is named Richelieu, has ensorseled the leader. Naturally, when they reveal this plot, they don't expose it to the public, and Boss Leonie says, I will confront Richelieu alone, and immediately gets put in a coma
Starting point is 00:01:27 just as General Grievous arrives to join in the attack on Nabu. Wait, what's Rishaloo? Cardinal Rishaloo. So he is the historical figure. Yeah, it's kind of two things, right? The founder of modern France and the power behind Louis XIV,
Starting point is 00:01:48 and the guy who sort of creates state supremacy within the country. And then also he is the villain of the Three Month Ceteers stories. Oh, okay. Which is like... But he's a court manipulator Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:04 In those stories. He's a power behind the throne type of guy. And I mean, in real life, he was also a power behind the throne type of guy. It just he wasn't a, like, mustache-trolling villain. I can't believe they gave this motherfucker a literal weird gun-gin mustache, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:20 The septum piercing? Is that, but it's real, right? It's part of his flesh, isn't it? Yeah. Is it? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I think that it's like a catfish whisker. Yeah. But it's been like gelled into place. No, I guess it's coming through his nose. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. I guess it is just a person. You're right.
Starting point is 00:02:44 You're right. You're right. A shitty cartoon. Like bone. Like a voodoo doctor type. Yeah, they went that way. Sure. They went that way.
Starting point is 00:02:52 That's what I kind of read it as. So. Also, could be mustache. No, you're right. Also, so grievous arrives to join in this attack on feed. And they need to put a pin in this. And so I swear to God, Padme realizes that, hey, Jarjar looks just like Boss Leonie when he puts on a hat. And I feel like Padme and maybe the writers could understand some things about cross-racial identification.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And, like... But Hattemey. We all don't look alike on Hadmay. But in this world, they do. Because every single gungan is fooled by boss Jarjar, pretending to be boss Leoni. And so they call off the attack, Richelieu is exposed. And so Jarjar has to keep General Greaves at bay
Starting point is 00:03:51 by keeping this con going while Anakin chases Richelieu, but Anakin chases him straight into a trap and is ambushed by General, by Count Duku, which works out well for the separatists because General Grievous gets ambushed by Jarjar 100% effectively, and the Gungan cement their reputation as the only people in their public who know what they're doing, because they absolutely wrecked Grievous's whole army. They bury Grievous so hard in these episodes. I'm like, I need Grievous to get a push. need him to not be getting jobbed out. This is like, this is bad at wrestling booking.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Like, especially that Grievous and Duku show up. It's like, that's Duke who's music. This episode's going to be great. And like, fucking nothing happens. I thought he doesn't make a pitch to Anakin. I thought this is going to be like a Duku Anakin. I mean, there's like a little, they do talk a little bit and the fight is kind of cool. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But like, it's not. They should not have brought Duku. and grieve us out for this. They should have picked one. Or the only reason that they should be here is if it was like for charity. Do you know what I mean? Like they were here to raise money
Starting point is 00:05:03 for kids with leukemia. I would understand why they showed up to this event. Why is this Duke who seemed kind of shitty as he's like going through like the pediatric ward on Nebu? Oh, it's so bad. And so Anakin being trapped
Starting point is 00:05:20 means that obviously they got to do prisoner swap. We don't need to call anyone from a Republican on this. Padmae is like, I don't know if I should do this. The Gungans are like,
Starting point is 00:05:32 are you fucking kidding me? It's, it's, it's Anakin. And she's like, damn, you're right. And so he just did the prison exchange and nothing has happened. It's so funny that she's not going to do it. And it's Jarjar and Leone or whoever other
Starting point is 00:05:45 Gungan is in that scene, who is the one who is like, but it's Anakin. It's Annie. We have to do it. But Padman was, ready to let it slip. Padme was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:57 we could end the war right now. We could end the war right now, and I get out of this bad marriage, you know. But he's our friend. He's our friend. Is he? I have a note about this, which is, I don't understand how this doesn't break the rule. Grievous walks right past Anakin. Grievous sees Anakin.
Starting point is 00:06:22 They're in the same scene. I haven't even thought about that. They've done all this work about how they're not allowed to be in one scene. And Grievous and Anakin literally walk past each other. Grievous has on the weird electro bindings. Maybe their argument is his weird electric helmet keeps him from seeing Anakin. But they literally pass within five three to one another. No, they, I have a screenshot, Rob.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I got it in 4K. They don't make a share of 4K. But they literally walk him past Anakin. If Grievous could kick him. If Grievous wanted to, Grievous could reach out with his foot and, but I'd say kick him, but he's already being dragged. They're right there. So there's no way Grievous didn't get a glimpse of it. And the whole thing is that the line is that Grievous is like, I thought you'd be taller.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh, my God. So it's like you saw him. Okay. I guess Anakin was kind of being. He's being dragged. Anakin's being dragged, right? So the perception of the length of his body. It actually justifies that
Starting point is 00:07:24 Because Grievous is like Last time I saw you I thought you were a couple inches taller But then it became I thought that you'd be taller You don't also also I don't know Okay I guess
Starting point is 00:07:34 Okay wait wait wait wait wait wait Okay General Grievous actually doesn't say That you're short He says I thought you'd be older Someone with your reputation would be older And Anakin says you're shorter than I expected So Anakin can still keep that
Starting point is 00:07:51 And also that's just an insult But also They both have pictures of the other Right They both have seen the other one They have like fucking holograms Like to replica size Like it's
Starting point is 00:08:04 It only makes sense if it's the first time They've ever encountered each other Like at all It's just yeah It's just pre-fight beef Like grievous is being like I don't respect you You're a little boy
Starting point is 00:08:16 And Anakin is like I'm gonna fuck fight you you don't have the weight on me I still feel like they should have just they should have gotten the other way and had to be this as if they're meeting for the first time bit every time they meet and just let them meet in this show
Starting point is 00:08:29 anyway sorry Rob you can finish this episode I mean what else happens in this episode even no that's it that's the whole episode I just got distracted by it art right like it ends with Padma being like we have to get Anakin back and I was like oh we're going to get Anakin back next episode
Starting point is 00:08:45 and that did not happen no no No, this was a standalone. I knew that this one would be a standalone. But it's not technically, I guess because Grievous is here, that's what, that's like the common. This is a standalone. This is not part of the next two episodes officially. Like, this is not part of the droids, the wandering droids arc. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:07 This is meant as a standalone episode. Fine. Except it's actually, now here's the fucked up thing. We just said all of that. And one of the notes. in the Star Wars.com thing for this episode for the episode called Shadow Warrior, which, by the way,
Starting point is 00:09:25 Shadow Warrior is once again a Corosawa reference. Shadow Warrior is how you might translate Kagamusha. Kagamusha is Corasawa's film about a thief, like a low-class, you know, thief who like,
Starting point is 00:09:39 it impersonates a diamond out. Great fucking movie. Yeah, uh-huh. Not, uh, the idea that you would want to reference that in relation to this. episode is depressing to me.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Is it a bit? Is it the... Because when they execute it, it's not like... We're dedicating another one to Currisawa. Like, it just seems to be that when they play their hand, it does not seem to be like, look at this thing that we're proud of. No. No.
Starting point is 00:10:12 At all. So the thing I was actually building to say was, was, so do you know everyone is like, you have to watch Clone Wars chronologically, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. All the chronological lists that I've seen put this exactly where it is after Water Wars gun gun and attack in prisoners. But Star Wars...
Starting point is 00:10:30 So, like, if we had followed the chronological watch list, that would all still be true. But Star Wars.com's trivia section for this episode says, for those wondering what might have occurred to transform a perfectly loyal boss Leoni to a traitor, beyond the influence of the Richelieu, that is. I don't know why it says the Richelieu.
Starting point is 00:10:48 That's very weird. Here's a bit of explanation. Shadow Warrior is intended to take place before the Moncala trilogy. God, dearly. It was moved after those three episodes in order to have a more epic action-packed premiere for season four. True. So in fact... I too would not have wanted to open on that.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Can you imagine if we'd open with this and then the fucking Moncal arc all in one episode? I think we would have appreciated the Moncal arc so much more. Yeah. I don't know. This is some real Star Wars. But I would all be like, damn, the Moncah arc like looks pretty good. Like, this. I didn't expect it to go so hard.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And to some degree, I would have, we would have a completely different read on the Gungan stuff. Because I'm like, oh, yeah, we just dealt with the Gungens. And we just like, you know, ousted a, you know, someone who is manipulating them from within. Do you know what I mean? Like, when the Gungan showed up in Moncal, that would have literally been just paying off this. Oh. In this, like, in the other. scenario, there was no
Starting point is 00:11:48 way for us to know that it would be the Gungans that would come... Or just, it's not whether or not we knew... It's just disjointed from... But like, when they're like, oh, we have to fucking save Padmei. It's like, well, yeah, Padme was just here and helped oust this person who tried to... Oh, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Literally mind-control your president. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, okay, you should have her back right now. She just helped you. And also, this episode is so clearly introducing the idea that, hey, there's new leadership of the Gungens. Like, Right. Big boss,
Starting point is 00:12:18 big dude. Nass. Yeah. Who? Nass. Nass. That's right. Nass.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like, like, um, I think that the way that they get there and this is like such a silly, weird thing is it's, it's, Will, William Nass did the political cartoons of boss tweed. God damn it. Sorry. There's always something. Yeah. Why does it always have to be something? So the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Thomas Nass, not William Nass, my bad. I don't want to get my 19th century political cartoonists wrong. I'm dragged on Twitter. I need to explain. Like, I was, my heart, my heart soared. Hope soared. I know. When they were like, the Gungans are mobilizing against the Naboo.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I was like, yeah, they fucking are. All right, this is the type of shit you're not dealing with. And you just think, and he's like, we've, too long, we have dealt with the disrespect from the surface dwellers and all the Gungans are like you know that's right fuck those guys and I was like
Starting point is 00:13:25 you know I don't know much we haven't actually been given much insight into what the beef there was but Boss Nass seemed to feel it was pretty real that like the Naboo seemed like shitheads to the Gungians I was like all right yeah we're finally
Starting point is 00:13:39 taking that gun down off the wall we're gonna fire it at something and he's like and so we mark on Theid, and I was expecting, like, you know, Anakin and Pad may show up there, and they're like, oh, this is, this is not good. We need to, we need to put a stop to this. And I was, I was so hoping that, like, the wise and older general of the Gungens might turn
Starting point is 00:14:00 to have been like, oh, no, we don't need to stop shit. You're under arrest. I was like, here we go. Yeah, all this stuff has been on the surface. And then Anakin spots the necklace. And I was like, oh. It's one of those Uh-huh
Starting point is 00:14:18 Mm-hmm Uh-huh The problem is The mind-control necklace Yeah The problem is All the Gungans Are not mind-controlled
Starting point is 00:14:29 And are listening To boss Leonie Say all this stuff About Nabooians Treating them Like second-class citizens Like
Starting point is 00:14:40 It doesn't matter If it's Russian bots Making the Post If everyone's like Fuck yeah I agree Well, you have to understand, Rob. These people don't count.
Starting point is 00:14:51 The Gungans don't, they're not smart. They just listen to whatever their leaders tell them. And so you can't, they don't have opinions that you, they don't have agency politically or anything else. They just are going to do what they're told. So you can dismiss it when they're upset. I will say it was very, they really made this dude with the Gungin, like fake patois. do a big rousing political speech, and they had to, like, try to find a way to make him sound
Starting point is 00:15:21 like he wasn't a walking joke. And there's a moment's into history when changea isn't necessary. Put it on his gravestone. I mean, he's not dead yet, but I bet he will be. So the catch Richelieu, is that just the hot dude? Is that just the hot that died last year that we liked? Oh, is it just...
Starting point is 00:15:46 When we liked... We hated. Oh, zero. Oh, yeah. Was Richel of the same voice actor? Because there's a point late in this episode where I'm like, that's just zero. I was hearing overlap, yeah. I could hear it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I could hear it for sure. I'll have to double check. Maybe the voice directors, like, every time they're given the note for, like, and make it sound by you, they just immediately are like, this is the only, like, look, all I know about that is what I got from Gabriel. Knight since the father's, and so I'm just going to make all my voice actors sound this way. The answer is, yes, it is, but it's also Duku's voice actor and Cadd Bain's voice actor. So, like, he's putting in the war. This is Corey Burton.
Starting point is 00:16:32 The range is real. Wow. He's great. Wow, that's shocking. Shout out to Cadbane. Shout out to Cadbane. Miss him. He should come back.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Chris, where are you at, Cad. So, Rishlu, like, it's, everyone, this plot requires everyone doing the worst thing. Like, they don't expose the plot. Bosnianian, I'm going to go confront Rishlu myself. Yeah. Immediately gets worked. Again, oh, hang on, I was once again hoping, as they were going into rescue Bosnione, I was desperately hoping that during the rescue, they'd get him killed.
Starting point is 00:17:14 and it would be like a what happened here because I kept expecting like that there would be some twist here where like there would be an inversion of like who was perceived to be the good guy and instead it's just a clean getaway and then in the hijinks in the medical bay Jar Jar Jar Pratt falls his way into the little like crown
Starting point is 00:17:36 and immediately Padmay goes there just exposing herself as As the fucking land-dwelling Nibuian that doesn't give the fuck about Gung-Guns. Can you imagine if this had come to light that the former queen of Nibu and now Senator of Nabu had put her close Gungan friend as the stand-in for the boss? Like if that had like hit the press that that had happened. I mean, I guess it doesn't matter because we know the Gungan opinions and things don't actually matter.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But if I were Gung-Gung-Gun-G-I learned that that Padme had. put Jar Jar and the crown and like was literally had him out here talking to us like he was like in charge that would be it we would be going to war but the the the bossione was being mind controlled so but you just couldn't tell us that no and the in the degree well he was he was passed out and somebody needed to go talk to the army I have a question yeah is impersonation not a form of mind control it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:18:45 the same way to get some result right yeah you were both controlling the like speech of a person
Starting point is 00:18:52 who is not speaking for themselves while also deceiving others yeah yeah I can't believe all the Gungans
Starting point is 00:19:00 just bought it and like not a single one was like when George Usa aren't no he like has to
Starting point is 00:19:08 keep reminding himself to drop his voice an octave Misa. He's not doing a good job. He's not. He's like constantly fucking it up.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And everyone's just like, yeah, that's my boss Leonie. Like, okay, guys, let's haul our asses back down in the water. Like, fuck this. Whatever. Like, there's no one. The only person who sees it is the general. Right. I guess.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah. And the general is just like, yeah, that's fine. I trust Jarjar. I trust Jar Jar. I guess. This episode is so bad that I feel like we can't do good bits about it. Like it's draining to talk about. That guy dies.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Does a general die? I miss the general die. When when fucking grievous is like, how does it feel to die? And he's like, or is it Dugu? I don't remember. No, it's grievous. It's grievous. Because they all try to jump Revis.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. Right, right. And he's like, not die. Sacrifice. And I'm just like, you can't, you don't, you haven't earned the right to put a line like that in this fucking episode. You have not earned. I don't know what your name is. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And then they, yeah, I was literally looking at my notes to see if I got his name. Nope. No. The general. And then like, the fact that they just beat Grievous. I mean, I get, it's a whole army. That makes sense. But they also pass over the part where the entire droid army gets shut down.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like, this thing is so, like, not even duct tape together. They just don't even build a connective tissue. A character saying, go tell this other character to shut down all the droids is all of the explanation we get for how they shut down all the droids. But we, and right, and we know that tactical droids don't work that way. Like, tactical droids are insubordinate. They have a predisposition. And cany.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah. Yeah. And so, like, the fact that they're just like, oh, yeah, the tactical droids take orders. No, no, no, no, no. Tactical droids pretend to take orders and then they, like, do whatever they want. Yeah. Like, are you kidding me? No way is the tactical droid going to be sent and made subject to, like, the people you're coming to, like, lead a false flag attack? Like, it's just not, no, no. A tactical droid would laugh at a command from a, from a gungan. Let's be sure. Shut down your whole army. Tactical droid is going to kill whoever, with whichever guy. tells that message, too. Like, tab droids are going to be like, a plan is blown. We're just wiping out the gungons. That's another fucking bad booking. It's like you're booking your tactical droids bad. You're booking Duku and Grievous Bad in this episode.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I guess Duku gets the dub on, on Anakin, but like. Yeah, but it's leftovers. It's not even like their whole, their whole fight. I was like, okay, like, exactly what we're saying before, like, let's get some little tasty morsels. Like, let's get some little lore bits or something. and the only thing we get is Dugu's saying
Starting point is 00:22:12 the Sith control everything you just don't know it and that's leftovers that's like two months ago leftovers that have been sitting in the back of the fridge like it's not the good parts of this episode
Starting point is 00:22:25 are like when you like lick your finger to get crumbs out of the bottom of like a delicious bag of cookies or something or like chips where it's like hmm but they're stale they're stale
Starting point is 00:22:36 they're not the tastiest most constant bit of the flavor like you'd expect them to be. They're stale and gross. Natalie's standing up for the honor of the discarded flavor shavings at the bottom of a chip bag. Excuse me. This episode did not
Starting point is 00:22:51 rise to the level of of crums. I'm grooming a Cheeto bag clean. Bro, I mean, that's the best part. This is what you eat the Cheeto bag for. Is to get to the bottom little mm-hmm. Love them.
Starting point is 00:23:08 The nature video of this, like, the Cheeto bag gets ripped open, like, a pride of lions. Like, they just start, like, looking the inside of the bag clean. Like, Cheetos going everywhere. So, yeah, not a good episode. No. I thought, did anyone else... Too much more, right?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Natalie, go ahead. Did anyone else think it was funny when Padme told Duku that he can't torture a prisoner? That was funny. And he just literally, he was like, I'm not torturing a prisoner. Torture, torture, torture. She just doesn't know what it's like out here. She just doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Well, I guess when was the last time she said that when we were with Uncle Ono? Wasn't there like some like, you can't do this? It's not the rule. But she was being tortured an episode ago in the episode titled Prisoners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Well, you know, that's illegal. It's not allowed. I'm also surprised that nobody fucking used the opportunity of the fucking prisoner exchange to do anything. Yeah. It's like a little, like, something, some little hijinks moment. Some play, yeah. Something a little, like, you had everyone surrounded. Oh, you know what should have happened?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Grievous should have been like, these are, I'm not actually, like, in chains. I've been faking it to get close to, you can't do it because Anakin's there. Sorry, you can't. Do we even see the prisoner exchange on screen? We do. We do. I put a screenshot in. That's when Grievous has on the big electric
Starting point is 00:24:48 like ball on his head and Anakin is just slumped over. Those are interesting. Interesting. Have you ever missed opportunity here? Because this whole thing is so throwaway. Like anything interesting to do with the Gungans, they miss it. The prison exchange is another interesting opportunity because in previous episodes, what's been established, Padmei,
Starting point is 00:25:09 would have called home. We saw her do this during the Nuo Vindy arc. That entire arc is constantly, like, the phone line is open, constantly between Nabu and Khorasan, and, like, everyone is involved in decision-making throughout this. Here, this is one of the situations
Starting point is 00:25:25 where, like, Padmae would probably try to recuse herself from being the one to oversee this, just, like, just kind of how we know she operates. But instead, we have the queen of Nabu there, whoever that the current ruler is, I know we're just fine with turning grievous over and there's no tension to be resolved around the notion that like taking grievous off the board
Starting point is 00:25:49 might be the bigger win than getting Anakin back like Padmey seems to sense it but there's no tension around it it literally only takes two of the Gungans being like uh no come on he's our friend and she's like yep that's done done and dustin and like so we missed that opportunity of the Sith. We need him back.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Right. All of this has to mean nothing because of where the stories are going. And this is just like, there's a way you can tell interesting stories in those spaces. This is a failed example of that. I don't even have it in me with this episode to do the big rant that, like, it's the same thing we just said, which is like, I wish the show, last episode, which is I wish the show had space in it for. I guess the way that I would say it is we've spent a lot of time, this show has spent a lot of time showing how rough the Republic is for people, down to people on Coruscant didn't have money for water, down to, obviously, places like Tatooine on the outer rim are like completely filled with slavery. We're constantly seeing places that like aren't being supported by the infrastructure and don't have the political power to get anything done unless. They are close friends with Padme, I guess. Um, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Um, and despite that, the stories that we keep getting are people being manipulated into fighting against the republic or being manipulated into raising their arms or raising their voices against the republic. I would love one episode where the Jedi have to deal with a group that is like, I'm sorry, but y'all fucked up. You keep fucking up, and the separatists are genuinely going to send us food, and yeah, you know what? They're probably going to occupy us, too. But our choices are droids or clones, and the droids come with food.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And, like, we know that's happening, because that was one of the first episodes. That literally was the Uncle Ono episode. And in some ways, that was a more honest episode than this or the water were arc. Because in both of those, they've retreated to, when this happens, it's separatist manipulation, and not separatist political. you know, politicking, but like literal separate, in this case, it's literally mind control. And so it's like, it's negligent at a certain point not to also tell the other, the other one of those stories. And, and like, it's going to come out to be a victory for the Republican in that case, because
Starting point is 00:28:22 it's a cartoon. Like, I get that that's where it's going to get to. Like, if this had been the Gungans truly are deciding to rebel, this would have ended in some sort of compromise that brought them back into the fold, because we're not going to end an arc or an episode in which the Gungans have decided they hate the Naboo. and are going to go to war against them. Like, I recognize that that episode is always going to end with peace being made and that group staying with the Republic.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But this whole episode and that whole past episode would have been better if, in this case, the Gungans, and in the last case, the Quarans, were, like, at least given the space to have a little bit more political agency of their own and to treat their complaints about the kind of status quo as legitimate, even if it ends up being a sort of compatibilist, you know, reformist ending at the end. that keeps everything the same. So, I don't know, weird, weird four-episode arc, you know, half arc here or whatever of, no, no, no, no, no. Any time someone wants to leave the Republic, it's because of outside influence, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:23 No, season four, it's striking the degree to which, like, production values increased, absolutely. Through the roof. Like, the, what they're doing in terms of, like, the theme, we're actually way far behind where we were in season one. Season one, it was like you'd see, like, diamonds in the rough of, like, the production values in a lot of cases, and, like, they would, and the, and the, and the, the, since they could were, like, the endings were too pat. Now the entire episode in end-to-end is too pat. Our next two episodes center, can we lay this one rest? Yeah, I think so. So, our next two episodes center on a series of misadventures, uh, starring 3PO and R2. In Mercy Mission, a cruiser full of reinforcements for Plocoon
Starting point is 00:30:07 are diverted to deliver aid to an earthquake-stricken planet full of DreamWorks-looking racist caricatures. While a very peeped Commander Wolf and his clones grit their teeth as they are assailed by cutesy bullshit, 3P-O and R2 discovered that the earthquake was not natural and far beneath the earth, it was caused by a group of crampus ants and poison ivy. The two droids restore the piece
Starting point is 00:30:30 by sealing the breach between the under and overwork, worlds, which was clearly identifiable earlier in the episode when they saw it because it's a giant plug and a big hole. And there's like inscrutable writing over it. So, you know, I would have just moved. I was just, it's a sewer lid. Just close it. Anyway, the two droids restore the piece by solving the riddle of the two worlds and, and seeing it and putting the lid back on the issue. I left this episode thinking the next episode would be about solving this for real and then we would stay on this planet and come to understand the ecology here and the different people I like literally didn't understand and I must have been distracted
Starting point is 00:31:13 but I literally didn't understand that they had quote unquote solved the riddle I thought they'd solve the riddle of like getting out of the underground but that when they had the little river thing I know there must be like a river like they're brooding the river or something. These, so disrespectful, honestly, so disrespectful to me personally. Do we have a sense of scale of how
Starting point is 00:31:37 many people died because that door was slightly a jar? That's a great question, that was a bunch, right? Yeah. They came on the play. I was like, our people are dying because of earthquakes. Yeah, and they're pissed.
Starting point is 00:31:52 We don't care about it. We don't care. They're on their way to blockade. They literally say as they're, as the fucking, as they're landing and someone's riding a dragonfly next to them and goes, Kazabani. And one of the fucking clones looks over another one and goes, gotta be another one of these. I love it though.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh my. Great. I was so with it though. Because also this entire plant is, they go in. to the fucking Lorax here and like you're on your way to the front and like this is I love it because it is such a clear
Starting point is 00:32:33 like we have fallen into one of the spit like the side plot episodes and the clones know it. The clones know and they're like fuck this isn't a main this isn't a main line this is a fucking spin-off episode we're having to see these people again
Starting point is 00:32:48 we're just getting to deal with the fucking Muppets I can't be no side character like chirping at us and then we'll go die I'd rather just skip it apart we'd go die and so they're meaningful I'd love that the clones
Starting point is 00:32:59 are all just like they're not like cruel they're just done with this they're so over Star Wars in the Clone Wars they're just like yeah you know
Starting point is 00:33:08 let's go help the dragon dragonfly riding motherfucker fantastic I mean to be go ahead no you go ahead
Starting point is 00:33:17 I was just going to say to be fair Commander Wolf absolutely has main main character energy like is is wasted on a D plot here.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You think that they told him before, they're like, you know, Commander Wolf, you're getting a whole episode. It's you and the crew. He's like, oh, it's a Plokoon episode? And they're like, nah, it's a Commander Wolf episode. And he was like, okay, okay. Are there any other characters?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Like, C3PO and R2D2? He's like, yeah, but those motherfuckers are in everything. So like, that's fine. It's finally, Commander Wolf episode. Where are we going? And it's like, well, just so you know, there is a separatist annexation happening on the Killarna system, and you're on your way to stop it.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And I was like, oh, he's like, ooh, oh, I'm going to get up to some stuff. I'm going to get the RPG out. We're going to do a sky drop. We go down, we go, we go, we go fuck them up. Yo, them clankers, let me tell you, they, oh, they go, no commander wolf. And then they have to be like, but also the mid-rim planet of a lean has been devastated by catastrophic earthquakes. And he's like, a lean. I don't know about a lean.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Mid-rim. Mid-rim. That's not the front. That's not the front. the back, you know. That's in the middle. That's mid. That's mid.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You know I don't mess with mid. I think they didn't tell him until they started filming. And then they just called it in. They called it in. Also, so low-key, something I do enjoy here as well is like the degree to which now the are being used to solve every issue that crops up in their report. Yes, this I love. This is totally 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:54 By the way, because this is America now. By the way, we're here. Oh, no, there's a systemic problem. We can't solve. National Guard, could you please? National Guard. Two wild missions the National Guard has been asked to do lately. Go sit on the border along Mexico and do nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Just like sit in cars, just like staring at a border. And then, I don't know if this actually went anywhere, but it was like, could they substitute teach for us? Right. teachers all laugh or are sick or have quit because this country
Starting point is 00:35:28 doesn't pay teachers and like persecutes them and so there was it was pitched where it was like it happened it happened
Starting point is 00:35:35 in New Mexico and northern New Mexico and fully happened fantastic great I love to have my children educated by somebody
Starting point is 00:35:44 who got like an 85 on the ad- specialist Austin Alt Alpaces around peering over their shoulders it's his second day as a substitute teacher and his arrival came as a surprise.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He's 25 and has no teaching experience. He's usually working as a technician in the laboratories at Los Alamos. He says he volunteered after seeing his younger brother struggle with remote learning, et cetera, and PR. Yeah. Anyway. But this is it. So, Yoda is like, okay, I know you're on the front. And then the way he gives these orders is so interesting to me because he's like,
Starting point is 00:36:13 you need to be a diverted to deliver humanitarian aid to this planet. And he's like, but plok who needs us? That's Wolf. And Yoda's like, yes. and you're going to go there, but first you have to go do this mission. But don't be there long. Leave them with hope
Starting point is 00:36:27 and then get to Plokoon. And so it was like, it was also the most incoherent set of orders where I was like, if you're this guy, so am I supposed to actually do a good job here and sort the situation out or do I need to just dump supplies
Starting point is 00:36:44 and go to Plokoon? I think that's Yoda code for dump supplies and go to Plow Coon. But Yoda is speaking in cover your ass language. That's the thing, no matter what happens, like he will have said he gave the two critical instructions. If it breaks bad for plow, he can be like, you know, I said, I told Commander Wolf, get your ass out there.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Don't take too long with the A package. But if people die in the wake of the earthquake, you'd be like, I don't know why Wolf didn't sort that out and stick around long enough to fix it. So like Wolf's whole like put upon air, I think it's very earned at the start because he's a guy who's like genuinely I don't know what I'm supposed to do
Starting point is 00:37:23 and so he's like I guess we just turn the internet back on and like get the lights on and we bounce right that's it we're gonna leave these 3D printers and then we're ghosting I gotta I gotta know like what resource there is on a lien that made them
Starting point is 00:37:40 like care at all yeah that like put them to the top of the humanitarian aid waiting list Yeah. Again, there is no, they don't have another means to do this. They couldn't send another different supply force out to help these people. And, like, again, we know that travel is basically instantaneous in this world. So, like, they could have just launched something from Corsat and sent it to this place,
Starting point is 00:38:11 but they chose not to do that. They chose to just use this, which tells me that this is really the only mechanism for getting supplies around in a reliable manner anymore inside of the Republic. And it's like at that point, you're going to end up with a military society because the military has replaced your infrastructure entirely, you know? I mean, it makes sense when you look at like the pirates appearing in the episode after this, like, my first instinct would be like, oh, why don't they just do like droid manships to deliver the humanitarian aid?
Starting point is 00:38:45 and there's probably a big issue with pirates just taking whatever it's one of these like we've seen enough now to think like maybe what the republic should consider gracefully declining and like falling apart here because like the fact that the only government resource they seem to actually control directly is their clone army and their warships is probably not a great sign like and we know this because like the there's like the navigation guild or whatever. There's various guilds, like control trade and everything, and they basically beg for these contracts. But it does leave the question of, why are we here to help these folks? And the answer seems to be, because they're cute. They're cute. They're a mid-rimmed species
Starting point is 00:39:31 and Padma's on the phone. As always, if Padmae gets on the phone, you're her friend, and you have to help her friends. But they are very cute. Do you ever think, what if our stereotypes of the Aztecs were cute little Muppets. And that's who we're dealing with here. Is a bunch of diminutive
Starting point is 00:39:56 just crawled out of a Civilization 6 cutscene like DreamWorks characters who immediately, hey remember this bit it was good, wasn't it? Remember when the EWO was a god? I remember when the Ewox, yeah, I do remember that way. What if we're
Starting point is 00:40:13 what if we're going to do that back to back? by the way. What are we just keep doing it? Just keep out, just send this banger out into the world.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It works so well the first time. Uh-huh. Yeah. Also, 3PO's the only one here who knows their language. They don't have
Starting point is 00:40:28 another protocol droid on board. Also, I don't know why 3PO and R2 are here. We don't even need to get deep into it. But why are they here? Why are they with the Mender Wolf?
Starting point is 00:40:39 It's like they're going out there to go meet up of Master Gali to come back. Is this just a frequent flyer, like, scam from Padmae? Maybe. Because they weren't coming here. This happened to be on the way.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And they're like, Zit, let's just like dip off real quick and drop off some supplies. Because we're all, we're here anyway. Why were three, why are three P. And R2 with Wolf and not with Anakin or Padme? 3PO ain't even in the military like that. Maybe 3PO got to come along so that. that they could have a translator droid, maybe. Well, that's why my real question is there's, the thing is that they get down there and they don't speak the language.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They don't speak the language of these guys. They're very, like, it's literally like talking to a Muppet who doesn't speak, who only speaks in Muppet sounds. That is how Wolf and Co treat these people. They're like, all right, buddy, yeah, we can go over there, whatever you fucking want, pal. And without 3PO there, they'd be doomed because they couldn't. I mean, obviously, they would never have. figured out for some actually they would have
Starting point is 00:41:46 one of the clothes would eventually been like we should put the lid on this soar closed it up and left and that would have been the end of the
Starting point is 00:41:52 episode so da da da da da da da da da da da ha I mean I mean
Starting point is 00:41:59 it's not like R2 and 3PO are missed when they fall into the sewer like nobody comes looking for them no one comes looking
Starting point is 00:42:09 like they just show up again and fucking wolf is like yeah we're done unloading, can we go now? And 3PO's like I saved the day. And they're like
Starting point is 00:42:20 I don't give a fuck. Plocoon is in war right now. We need to go. Also it's like these are celebrity droids. That's kind of the weird thing too, right? It's like on some like low level it's like
Starting point is 00:42:35 these are the most important droids in the galaxy and they don't get it because they're so fucking weird and like ineffectual. Like Like, I, like, I do not, like, the clone is just like, so what do you think is the deal? Like, why? Like, Anakin, Anika and Senator Amadala have, like, moved mountains for these fucking droids. Do you get it?
Starting point is 00:42:54 It's like, well, he does. He does know a lot of languages. No, that's true. That is impressive. He does know 50,000. I'm not taking anything away from him. But they're constantly disrespecting him. Like, they're just constantly bullying him and being mean to him.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And he's like, oh, no problem. Like, no worries. It's. Um. So what do we think of the underground segment of this? So it's like they show up, they talk, hey, there's earthquakes, uh-oh, that's not good. 3PO and R2 stumble down into a vast phosphorescent underground ecology. If it had delivered any of the menace that is set up here, that could have been cool,
Starting point is 00:43:33 but instead it's literally like they want a leak closed. Or like the thing I thought we were going to get down here is every time 3PO tells, he tells them multiple times like people upstairs are dying people upstairs are dying yeah i was waiting for them to be like our people are dying and like right right you know show the catastrophe that's like simultaneously being affected but no they're just evil underground monsters that are like having earthquakes and saying that it's affecting them but you don't really see you don't see it yeah it at all it's like tree people with like some glowy markings first all right they look fine but like they're just kind of like go away
Starting point is 00:44:16 like fuck off you could rewrite all of their dialogue basically with just fuck off just leave why are you down here just go away oh it just it's it just doesn't
Starting point is 00:44:32 like I feel like we didn't land on a planet I feel like we just we like the whole above world like we don't know what it looks like at all it's just rubble there's no civilization there's nothing right because i'm looking at the wukipedia and it says 18 million people live on this
Starting point is 00:44:55 planet sure i saw like 20 yeah are these earthquakes happening everywhere is it just happening like in this city you know also is this a city or is this like a little corner like a little town like a village it's like a main street situation like this was the worst version of the the brain worms the brain bugs arc where they had like the above ground right yes yes flying guys and then they had the queen and everything like okay but I see the symbiosis like I see how those two entities are interacting with each other and like the vibes going on there in they're just like so the fact that all of this hinges on a fucking open sewer
Starting point is 00:45:47 and there's no like, well, we need them for this or they need us for this or this is what we provide for each other. This is how there's no interaction. In fact, the natural state that they need to get back to is no interaction. Don't know. We don't speak. Also, because the foul air above poisons the people below and the foul air below poisons the people above. Sometimes it's just you keep to your own people. it's separate
Starting point is 00:46:14 but it's equal between them and that's the message it's not the message but I don't know what the message is the message is when you're talking to a sexy root vegetable
Starting point is 00:46:31 I think she's a frog I think she's a frog tongue she's a flower frog fairy yeah what do you okay where does she get to
Starting point is 00:46:42 designer clothes from because she has a fit that like rivals Padme sometimes and I was like what is it happening she has a like designer caprice yeah like who are you talking to where are you going are they? Are those clothes or are they all like
Starting point is 00:46:58 floral like elements that like become clothes? She has cargo pockets I guess they could she could be like a Pokemon situation whereas like are they wearing clothes or is that just their skin? Right I think it's like an Elsa from Frozen kind of vibe
Starting point is 00:47:17 Where when you're doing the magic It kind of like Takes over your clothes And you get new cooler clothes When you do the magic I do a question for you Because we're talking about The character we're describing
Starting point is 00:47:29 People who haven't seen First shows up as just like A collection of kind of glowing pink Pedals and maybe Butterflies moving through Kind of sparkles Moving through this underground cave which is both very dark and very glowy at the same time
Starting point is 00:47:44 and that stuff all looks really good and then she forms into as Rob has said a kind of poison ivy assertive I'm going to insist that there's some frog here because she has that frog tongue that she sticks out but she's super fast she's green
Starting point is 00:47:59 she has like some face paint on she's the only one of her people that we see she's not like the three people she wanted to eat them right she sticks her tongue onto three p.m. from across the room and she's can't eat you which is very funny.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Because he's made a metal. Where do you think her power comes from? I don't know. It doesn't matter. You think she's a forcey? Or do you think she's something else? I think they just wanted to do rando fantasy time. And that's why we're here.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Like they just wanted to do like funny fantasy. That ain't the force. That's magic. Yeah. No. Well, can I tell you we have an answer for where her power comes? Oh, God. Oh, my God, no. In the Faloni zone.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Oh, no. I forgot we were going to the Faloni zone. There is one bit of Faloni zone. Okay, this is longer than last time, but we're just going to have to watch a six-minute felony zone. This is the world we live in now. And it covers all three of these episodes, which is to say there, we'll spoil one thing. It spoils that they go to the land of the Lilliputians in the next episode.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. From Gulliver's Travels, just so we're all in the same. page, one of the things that happens in the next episode, is not that the characters stay here, is that they go planet hopping, and one of the planets is little people, like tiny little fairy-sized people who tie up D.O. All right, you now have all the context you need. I'm going to link y'all to the Filoni Zone now. When I was watching these three episodes, I was like, we're about to become a Flotie Zone podcast. We're transitioning from Clod Wars.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Oh, I forgot to mention. The little chief of this village on this planet That's Poloni Are you telling me that you don't see the resemblance? Oh, I can see it I thought you meant literally I thought you meant that Philoian Big old head
Starting point is 00:49:53 Big old friendly like Like mouth that falls into a smile Sort of naturally Yeah I'm not gonna be able to not see it I'm now I'm just gonna see Just a weird little gremlin Just a little gremlin
Starting point is 00:50:05 All right I'm ready All right We're ready for the zone All right Three two one go I am Dave Floney supervising director of Star Wars the Clone Wars and I hope you're enjoying season four and while we're in the middle of this little break how about I answer some viewer questions you guys always have a lot of questions I love answering them syndrome theater
Starting point is 00:50:25 guys give me some tough ones so let's let's get started all right here's our question from primus saber primus saber wants to know in mercy mission what is the deal with orphany That's her name is Orfney. Is she supposed to be a force user? Absolutely not. Orphany is not a forced user. She's actually a frog lady. She's just a different kind of creature that you haven't seen in Star Wars universe. Star Wars is based on a lot of myth, mythic archetypes, and, you know, in the kind of naive realm of even in the fairy world, the Red Riding Hood world, the Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella, there are these characters that are fairy-like, and they seem to be a bit more magical than the real.
Starting point is 00:51:06 rest of the world, and Art 2 and 3pia are the ones that can have contact with this world. I mean, in a different way of looking at it, Yoda would seem magical to Arch and 3Pia also. I would say, aha, but that's because he's the force shooter. But Orpne is not the same as Yoda. She's probably very in touch with the force, but she's not as like a Jedi. She's more into the kind of from the realm of the Mother Toulzons, the magic users, their ways to use the force other than Sith and Jedi but you're not really a force wielder. You're just very in tune with nature and things come naturally.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So some of her abilities that you see moving very quickly that Orphine does is just based on her physicality and the type of alien she is. And the way that she can turn seemingly into the little magic fairy ball, that's a little bit more of the kind of magic we see the Knights Sisters using, but Orphine's more on the good side of it than the bad side of it. So in a way it allows for even the world of Willow that George created. And you see some of the magic users there, the Brownsons.
Starting point is 00:52:05 brownies and what not. It was kind of inclusive in a way. The Brownies of Willow? George Lucas's Willow. So I don't worry. You'll hear more about Willow momentarily. The feeling. Was that one sentence, by the way?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yes. Here we have another. So that was a deep paper and myths and cocktails. Darth James, by the way, here. I guess since, you know, the bad guys ultimately win the clomers, it makes sense. It would be a popular program for the darts. But how come they give Otagunga?
Starting point is 00:52:35 a new boss, but at the end of Episode 3, Boss Nass is at the funeral of Padman. Well, the reason why Boss Nass is no longer in charge of the Gungan is that George wanted to tell a story where Jar Jar could easily be mistaken for the leaders of the Gungan. So George would have tattooed Jar Jar. Oh my God. We looked just like Jar Jar, so we could play this kind of Corosawa, Shadow Warrior. No! No, you did not.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yep. That left, you know, unfortunately, Boss Nass out in the colt. But, I mean, Boss Nass is still around. He still lives in Otagonga. You know, he still goes to all the parties. He plays a little golf, I guess, with Captain Typho. And when his friend, Pablo Amadella, passed away, he absolutely went to the funeral. You know, you'll see often, you know, ex-presidents go to big heads of states and banquets and funerals long after they're no longer president.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So it's not as if when Bosnian was no longer... You do. The boss mass is no longer. Boss. That is happening. He's not wrong. Crazy. It's a polite thing to do.
Starting point is 00:53:40 We're just lucky he took the time to go to the funeral. It's a big event. Everyone was there, except obviously Anakin. But thank you. Give him an Emmy. I hope I'm saying that correctly. Thank you for the question. And I hope you're satisfied with that answer.
Starting point is 00:53:57 All right. So, finally. He's trolling us. He's trolling us. He's trolling us. another question from Nellwin 88 from Nomad Droids Nelwynn, I laugh
Starting point is 00:54:10 Those of you that don't know, if you've never seen Willow Nellwin is a little hobbit-like creature Little dwarf-like creature in George Lucas's film Willow directed by John Howard. You can't say Hobbit at this point. Disney hasn't bought you yet. Actually, do they not own door to the rings? Are the little guys supposed to be a reference to Willow
Starting point is 00:54:30 shocking that no one's asking a question about Willow your favorite movie I wouldn't know because the tie up they tie up the heroes and sound a lot like the brownies from Willow so he's saying in Nomad Droids
Starting point is 00:54:46 and Freepio get tied up with little people are those people are a reference to the film Willow guy was talking about. Guy who's only seen Willow? Guy who's only seen Willow? And actually yes, they are. She said yes! They absolutely are. In fact it was one of our
Starting point is 00:54:59 challenges when we made the little people how much like the brownies do we want to make them, since we know George created that. George Lucas didn't invent little fairy people. Repeat himself, it was highly possible that George would ask us not to make them sound too much like the brownies, so there's something different. So I made sure that they were radically different colors and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:55:17 so they didn't seem like the same exact little primitive people. But when it came to the voices, I couldn't really help making the voices somewhat reminiscent of a little people that George had created in the past. So I couldn't help it. I am not surprised that that did not get past you in L-188. Thank you very much for the question. And who knows, we may slip some other Bavre more
Starting point is 00:55:39 to Mad Mardigan references in the future, but I know if we do, you will catch it in Nelwyn. So thank you very much for watching your show, and I hope you enjoy it. Well, thank you so much for your questions. I really enjoy answering them. Like I said, you guys, ask great questions. Never be afraid to ask questions.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You know, but for now, just like Yota says, clear your mind of questions. Look forward to the rest of season four and keep checking forward.com for updates. As Yoda says, we'll have here for you all the time. Clear your mind of questions. And get you ready for the second half of season four and the coming of Darth Mall. So you got that and look forward to you. I think he said that last time, too.
Starting point is 00:56:15 He said that last time. He knows they're just like running the clock on this. We are suffering. It's 100%. Oh, my God. What a Filoni zone. It's stranger every time. It was a reference to Willow, even though this looks nothing like Willow at all.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Willow, for people who don't know, was a fantasy story, a fantasy movie. I mean, I think it's most people. Ron Howard directed it in the late 80s, but it was produced by Lucas, and the story. I don't think he wrote the script, but the story was by Lucas. It's like Lucas's world and characters and stuff. And, you know, I think I had a lot of fans. because it was like... I'd say it's like
Starting point is 00:57:00 not quite Goonies cult level or like... But it's like a tier below. But like it has a following in that way. Totally, totally. And it's like Lucas going directly into fantasy and fairy tale and... Well, and it's extensively cast with little people, right?
Starting point is 00:57:18 But like not in... Like, unusually, not in like a really condescending way. Like they are the main characters of the story in a lot of ways. Yeah. And, of course, Val Kilmer is there also, as Mad Mardigan, who is, like, the mercenary sort of, like, you're kind of, like, smarmy action hero guy. People like Willow. I, you know, I haven't given Willow a shot in probably 20 years.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It was, like, not in the rotation like that. It was fine, but I think it was one of those things where, like, like some of the, like, you have a window where you're going to get really into a movie like that, and if it's closed, it's closed. Uh-huh. I wonder if part of that is just like the night, what was, what was fantasy film in the 1980s? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, what are we, we're talking a lot about stuff that's labyrinth, um, uh, legend, ladyhawk. Um, it's in that realm of things is what I would say.
Starting point is 00:58:16 We're like a little cheesy. They're going for it in some ways. Um, you know, uh, there's a, there's a. It's not a children's movie, but it feels family-friendly in a way that's like... Not that, like, Lord of the Rings doesn't feel family-friendly. Lord of the Rings is extremely family-friendly, but there's a different aspiration between something like Willow and something like the way Peter Jackson's Lord of the Ring movies function, I think, in terms of, like, theatricality and kind of cinematic aspiration.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Anyway, that's the Willow Corner. Wow. We have to finish talking about these episodes now, huh? Okay, but she is a... Mother Towson is a fucking force user. She's a force user. She's a force user. She uses the force.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Also, what about orphany is good side, by the way? She's, like, totally amoral. She's about to eat three-pio. Which is fine. Eldridge, like, creatures are one with nature don't confirm. Like, like the she, like the people from the realm of the fairy. Of the fairy lands. Hell yes.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Arm morality shouldn't map. 100% And yet And yet So then She gives the easiest riddle in history I was screaming at my computer You know what this is
Starting point is 00:59:35 You know like This is Dorah the explorer Explor There is an entire Like there is an underclass Of narrative designers in games Who are grinding They're trying to tell little stories
Starting point is 00:59:48 In the corners These grape bake stories And they're trying to create Like okay You are allowed one location one character and one puzzle and it all has to be solved in like basically a space
Starting point is 01:00:02 smaller than a mall parking lot and no one can get frustrated and it can't take more than six minutes and this is the quest that 3PO and our two are on once they get down there she's like what is a it's a river it's a river everything out is a river
Starting point is 01:00:19 what has a mouth but cannot talk And then you're thinking, okay, so they've got to find whatever. Maybe it's this, like, sacred river or something. Like, there's an important river here. I'm so mad. Artu goes, they're now in the shittiest escape room known to humanity. While 3PO is still working on that whole riddle puzzle. Play it back for me one more time, Arthew.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Can you just one more time? I really just, oh, I really need to listen again. And then Artu goes to a big picture of a river on the floor and pees on it. He pees on it He pees on it He pisses on that He does And then the room nuts
Starting point is 01:01:00 And Wow Blasts Blast the two Droid Straight back to the surface And Then now they're on the surface
Starting point is 01:01:12 It's like an elevator We can say it was like A water park It's like from a It's like from Super Mario Brothers You know what I mean It's like
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh you stand on the platform the water, yeah, uh-huh. We were in the land of a third race. They got Hurricane Harvard PlayStation 1 like platformer. Like dead ass. Oh yeah. This is some shit that would have happened
Starting point is 01:01:35 in a R2D2 C3BOS NES game. Yes. You know? So they get like blast to the surface. They go up through the flower sewer. Yeah. And you think by the flour. Yeah. You think they're
Starting point is 01:01:52 going to go look for a river somewhere, right guys? No, that was the river. That river icon was the river. I know we've been saying the thing about, oh, we all thought that we would go to a river. But I like, if you haven't watched these episodes, you don't understand just how much you
Starting point is 01:02:08 will believe in your heart of hearts that they're about to go to a river. The whole next episode is going to be oh, they're going to stay behind and try to help these people while Commander Wolf leaves. They're going to have to go to the river. They're going to have to. But instead, everyone just starts coughing and choking around the sewer pole.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We just see a bunch of people like choke to death, basically. Yeah. But they're fine. We see them sort of wheezing at the end. I guess they're fine. The one falls over. And then it's fine. But he gives R2D2 a hug at the end.
Starting point is 01:02:39 The people are all worshipping the hole. They were worshipping the hole. They were. And like, here's the other thing. Now we know R2 is a very capable droid. He's very powerful, so strong. like so much capability beyond his size I think we've also been led to believe that
Starting point is 01:02:58 like in the movies 3PO is a little bit weak and not so limber because that suit is hard to move around in but in the cartoon because they're unfettered from that I feel like they're like 3PO 3PO doesn't skip like they 3PO can like sort of like clamber around and like do stuff but still I don't view these characters as like the massive power of a machine
Starting point is 01:03:22 You know, like, if you, like, if you touch, like, machinery, and you realize, like, oh, that thing, if your arm were in the path of it, it would just snap your arm in half because, like, it is a powerful machine. I don't think of R2 and 3PO as being, like, that kind of strong. Right. You could be drunk and operate a C3PO or an R2D2 legally, for instance, whereas you can't do that with a forklift.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You have to be sober while operating a forklift. By the way, the fact of where I worked at, there were two forklift drivers, and one of them, we did know that, like, hey, by a certain point in the day, like, watch yourself around her. because it was like it was seriously that kind of like what's she on today and like which need is she addressing
Starting point is 01:03:58 via and so it was just like and it was legitimately not comedy like no more forkless no that's how scary to me corner at high speeds with like fully full loads and people just like scatter out of the way
Starting point is 01:04:11 as like shit went flying everywhere anyway point is so the big heavy lid nobody can move this nobody can seal this hole except for Artier with this little plunger
Starting point is 01:04:26 everybody else is too little of a guy no they can't do it because the only people who can do it are robots because they won't die because they won't die from the smoke right you can run down there you hold your breath and be like kick kick kick and run out there's little lungs
Starting point is 01:04:42 can't do it big lungs get it you hold it out you put a shit up and then you push the log that's a good idea you should go talk to them like it's pretend it's a spider you don't want to touch
Starting point is 01:04:56 but you want to get it you know what I mean I mean oh my God it's so annoying because when they go down into the into the underworld part and they're talking
Starting point is 01:05:06 with orphany and everything C3PO makes the comment like I understand now I understand why we're here because we are the only ones who could do this we're the only ones who could like survive the methane gas down here
Starting point is 01:05:18 I guess, or whatever. But then they go up and you're like, okay, there's this big thing. Who are the strong people on this planet? The clones. So I thought they were going to go be like, hey, clones, I figured out, like, we just got to close this. And then everyone go, woo!
Starting point is 01:05:33 And then they'd leave. But then they just do it themselves. And like, good for them, I guess, but just like... Yeah. And just why couldn't the little dudes do it? I think the little dudes could have done it. This is the thing. But the reason they can't is because they're just a simple people who worship the big hall with no understanding of like what, why do we worship the big hall with the lid that has the writing on it?
Starting point is 01:05:56 They can't explain. They just are like, gee, we sure hope nothing untoward is happening with the lid. How did the big hole get opened? Earthquake. Earthquake. No, no, no, no. Because earthquake started because a hole opened. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Earthquake started because hole opened. Yes, this is what the crampus is telling. They say, no, no, no, we caused the earthquake because we were trying to seal the path between us because their foul air was coming in. So they did the earthquake. So why was the hole open? Again, this is why it feels like there's a river somewhere
Starting point is 01:06:38 in this fucking planet that we need to go to. Like I thought there was going to, oh, they were mining or something or like they were doing something that was disrupting the palace. This is, yeah, that's how the story goes. It's firm, goalie. It's like it's, you got to do it. If you're going to do it, do it. But they didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 No. So they seal the hole. Everything's better. And then the clones show up and are like, where are you guys been? And then they, like, as they are reunited on the transport dusting off to resume their mission, they begin filling General Wolf in on what they've been up to as the clones. all sit and excruciating inattentive silence. Yeah, they could not care less.
Starting point is 01:07:22 We're dropping these two off the second we immediately. It's done. I have to say that this episode does have one of my favorite C3PO deliveries we've ever had, which is, I think it's as he's like saying goodbye to one of the trees, or to orphany downstairs, but he, like, says something like, oh, yes, of course, of course we'll do that. And then he, like, looks to Artu,
Starting point is 01:07:52 and he's like, Artu, let's get out of here. And it was, like, the line read on it was just, it just was so funny to me. And just, like, was the most I, like, bought, I don't know, that I actually enjoyed C3PO's character. I don't often enjoy his pedantic nonsense, but it was very good in this one scenario. I'm going to come in a wolf here today.
Starting point is 01:08:19 I'm just, I've got the main, that main character energy. And, um, it's true. Yeah. I relate to wolf. Uh, I have a little piece of trivia here. Yeah. Quote, Mercy Mission was the least watched episode of the series to date with only 1.35 million views. Of the whole series?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Wow. How people know? How'd the word get out? The, this was going to suck. I don't know. Commercials, probably. Commercials. There's no way to cut this to be like,
Starting point is 01:08:50 ooh, R2D2C3P are being pushed on that big... The water gush situation. Whoa, you've got to tune in. It's true. It's a sequence that's more effective selling the gummy candies that sponsor this show than actually like being part of the show. Like, if they had just, like, cut that same sequence together, but it's them, like, unlocking the power of, like, fruit roll-up, like, fruit juice edition.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's literally gushers. It literally is. I mean, it's funny because aren't C3PO and R2y, like, they're fan favorites. They're, you know. People love them. I do love them. Remember what R2D2 killed that other droid? Never forget it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Never forget it. That's the sort of violence that Book of Boba Fad doesn't give you. True. So... Speaking of violence. Yeah. All right. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Of this tree of episodes, I end up kind of liking this last one, Nomad Droids. In which R2 and 3PO do a highlight speed run of old-timey fantasy stories and the tone veers between the macabre
Starting point is 01:10:12 and the legitimately pretty funny for me. As the droids return from the front aboard Master Ghali's ship, they're ambushed by Grievous. They make an escape to a planet where they immediately end up in a Gulliver's travel situation. We'll get to that. Well, they make their way
Starting point is 01:10:28 out of that and go straight into the Wizard of Oz slash the man who would be king, maybe. And then they are shortly after taken by the Weekway pirates. Sadly, our boy does not show up. I don't see Honda here. The entire time,
Starting point is 01:10:44 we're asking like, and here's the thing, I think that would have been the cherry on top of this episode. I think we've been like... It would have been better. It would have. I was like, you know, I'm ready. My heart is open to having Hondo show up here naturally, as is his wants. He doesn't show up when needed.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I wrote down Hondo time. Me too. I didn't write exactly Hondo time. I wrote, where is Hondo? But Hondo time. If Hondo had become good friends with C-3-O, that would have been very funny to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:14 That would have been a great. bit. Like, if C3Pio couldn't see through Hondo's big talk, do you know what I mean? If he was, like, completely convinced that Hondo was the big shot that he pretends to be, you know what I mean? And he, like, starts serving Hondo. Right, exactly. Like, translating for Hondo, and Hondo's, like, chilling in his, like, big office.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah. C3Pio's, like, hanging out with his new bud. Like, that would be great. We got to get Hondo a droid. That would change. the vibes. This is like mob accountant 3PO where he ends up becoming the head of a criminal
Starting point is 01:11:50 empire just by like Honda outsourcing all his decisions to 3PO and 3PO as the national diplomat builds like a transnational syndicate without ever thinking he's done anything? 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 01:12:04 That would be a good episode. He needs to become Cosmo from sneakers. The mob accountant who is like a hacker like an early, early hacker gets out and is like the first person to understand that the future of crime is
Starting point is 01:12:20 you know, the economy, is the neoliberal economy and the electronic, you know, marketplace. Fuck. That's a great, it's a great movie. Shout out to sneakers. Anyway. Always, always. R2. Wars are not
Starting point is 01:12:34 fought with blasters anymore. They fought with ones and zeros. Exactly. I didn't expect Master Anakin to understand this, but I thought you would. Anyway. So anyway, pirates take the droids
Starting point is 01:12:52 and they are immediately ambushed by General Grievous. They make their way over to his ship just in time for Grievous to get ambushed by Plow Kuhn and Commander Wolfe. And so once again, all these things have happened. Nothing has happened.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Nothing's happened. And they are restored to Commander Wolf and have a new round of stories to tell him. The end. So... The end. Allie.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Star Tour is six minutes long and that's why he's wearing. And that's why you enjoy it. It's a Disneyland rye where you sit down in a little seat in a roof that moves around. It's got to be... You get the line, and the line is part of the story, probably, right?
Starting point is 01:13:45 And then you sit down and it's like, I'm C3PO, we're setting off, and then you're in a little space cruiser, and something happens, and it's bad, and you end up in a different place, as you're being chased down by the Imperials and the rebels are going to come here to save you, and it's a little experience, and it's fun, and then it's over. And then that didn't happen here. It just kept going. It kept going. I kept going. I'm with Rob that there are a few real highlights in this. I think the first one is
Starting point is 01:14:17 R2D2 immediately proves that he's a better pilot than anyone else in the military. MK asked, does Anna can't even fly that thing? Or do the control just moving them? And like R2... Does Luke... Like, R2 is in all of the most important
Starting point is 01:14:33 battles for 50 years of space flight. Like, this is... R2 is the one who has won the Star Wars Art 2 blew up the Death Star Art 2 blew up the Trade Federation ship R2 is the one who landed on that ship above Corosan where Grievous was where Duku was, all that
Starting point is 01:14:51 that's all R2 Oh, here's the other thing by the way As that ambush unfolds though I do love, they don't fully stick to it But they almost do a children of men type thing As we are following two unarmed Helpless characters in the middle of And it's actually really effective
Starting point is 01:15:05 Where we're following them over their shoulders as we see the clones racing in the firing position to confront Brevis and all hell breaks loose but it is not like they cut to show the fight and I wish they hadn't because what's really interesting is these shots and we get this theme repeated later of like much as we meet them in a new hope 3PO and R2 is two characters
Starting point is 01:15:27 completely out of their depth in these situations being surrounded by like the epic and the horrific and just trying to get the fuck out and that culminates in like their run to across the hangar bay as everyone just abandoning ship
Starting point is 01:15:41 and R2 throws that astromac aside to get in that Y wing like R2 knows what time it is
Starting point is 01:15:50 R2 is like there are times to be like polite about things and there are times you are like I'm sorry I'm a main character
Starting point is 01:15:58 I am the most important droid in the galaxy I am the most I am more important to this universe than any character except maybe Palpatine
Starting point is 01:16:07 I need that ship I need that ship I need that ship and then yeah the space battle looks incredible and it's done as a gag the entire thing is basically a show
Starting point is 01:16:18 R2 fucking wrecking house as a pilot and 3 p.l being like I don't know and meanwhile it's a really good fire sequence it's like strong
Starting point is 01:16:32 you don't remind me a lot of though is if anyone played oh gosh what were the two rebel assault it has strong rebel assault FMV I guess the first one wasn't actually FMV the first one was like hand drawn but no the first one had a hand drawn stuff
Starting point is 01:16:51 the second one was fully FMV it was FMV like it played like an FMB game the first one but it was more cartoon visually but yeah yeah 100% like rebel assault cool space battle with like a couple of big unique, you know, moments. They do the little wrap-around on the, the droid, you know, fighter that's chasing them in the clouds and wind up behind it instead of in front of it and then blast them out of the sky, and that's great.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I love the little droid. The droid fighters are great because they are droids. It's not that they are piloted by droids, it's that they have a little droid head. The whole thing, yeah. The whole thing is a droid. It goes, like, pop, and it goes like, uh-oh, and it looks around. It's great. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:17:34 So, anyway. Then they end up among the Lilliputians. Yes. And they do... Who predate the brownies from Willow, again, to be clear. They do a little gag where it looks like the people are full-sized as they're sort of staring at the droids, but it's a trick of perspective, and they come running out, and it just turns out there a bunch of vaguely tribal, like... They're Navi. They're little Navi.
Starting point is 01:18:04 They're what if Navi were 10 inches tall? or a seven inches tall or something. Plus more bimbo. Plus more bimbo. Yeah. Navi smart. Yeah. These guys.
Starting point is 01:18:15 These guys not smart. However, so, and here's the thing, Star Wars loves to play in these tropes anyway. And now it is drawing from stories where it's all about, and then I was shipwrecked on another island full of primitive people. Yep. And that is the vibe. Now, the other thing is, sometimes it's in the, spaces because it is like Gulliver's travels is so that
Starting point is 01:18:40 the Gulliver can be a sock puppet for boring-ass lectures on like Normie philosophy of the like I don't know when the fuck is Swift 1700s, 1800s? It has to be 1800s right height of British Empire shit yeah right
Starting point is 01:18:56 because in Swiss ends up writing about the famine in Ireland so that has to be the 1800s sure I think there are multiple famines anyway so like 1700s
Starting point is 01:19:08 we got owned 1726 a lot of the shit is going to be bad but you know what's good Artu killing a guy
Starting point is 01:19:19 they bring out their boss boss I don't remember what his name is but they talk such a big game about that dude they talk such a big game
Starting point is 01:19:29 they're like oh my God we have to do what this guy says we're going to take you to go hazoo hazy, hazoo. Yeah, uh-huh. And R2 just immediately rolled. First of all, they capture R2 and C-3PO, because R2 and C-3PO put their arms down.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You know what I mean? You have to keep your hands up to block, and instead, they put their hands down and got electrified immediately. They have, like, tiny little electro-sticks, but big, big wallop, huge punch-packed in those little sticks. And so when R2 rolls over on Hazu and is, I mean, goes over too. Hazu. And I'm like, oh my God, they're going to get out again. But instead, what
Starting point is 01:20:08 happens is R2D2 falls over. Because C3PO fucking kicks him. Yeah, he does kick him. Because Artu is saying 3PO is like, no, I'm not going to let you at him. You don't, and he smacks him to try to stop Artu from fucking this guy up. And he
Starting point is 01:20:23 falls. And smushes him into goo. It sticks to his body. And it's on his body for the rest of the episode. Like, he just has the That's Hesu. That's the man on him forever. I mean, I guess it's kind of like the clones, like, just like rocking the, you know, battle wounds or like armor, battle seasoned armor kind of vibe.
Starting point is 01:20:48 He's just seasoning that, that droid shell. The next, they should go to that spa, that droid spa after this. That probably comes next in the timeline. I think in the timeline, you know, almost certainly next. Almost certainly they've thought about it. I have two questions. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. One is what wars do you think
Starting point is 01:21:11 Hazu is fighting with the children of these people? Because you sure is sending them. What's going on? There must be other similar culture. He said if you're lucky, you get to be a warrior.
Starting point is 01:21:29 If you're not, he just kills you. They should have killed. this guy. Oh no, he's, Hesu dying, that's good. Yeah. What's your second question now? My second question is, in that, in that quote that Natalie said, it's like, if you're not lucky, he's gonna, and then she like holds her hand to her mouth and then Hesu comes onto the screen and he's like a big guy. And I've, oh, yeah, I was about to spoil her a very popular. and some other stuff. Oh, for me, my head went to the culture series. Oh, sure. A little bit of, like, you land on a weird, fucked up, like, island.
Starting point is 01:22:16 And, hey, what's that big fat guy going to do? Horrifically eviscerate you. Sure. Is he eating those people? That's my, that's a joke? I think so. Is that it? I mean, kudos are, too.
Starting point is 01:22:32 So anyway, then they bring democracy It killed me It killed me It's you know what It kind of works It's kind of good Because they're like you have to You're now in charge
Starting point is 01:22:47 Like by right of conquest You rule us And three people says no no I give you democracy And so he holds a vote Who do you think is the wisest and smartest Of the people And they all get three people are picked
Starting point is 01:23:01 They all get equal cheers. He's like, great. And now you're a democracy. And immediately the three people in their partisans start slap fighting each other. And three PO's like, well, our job here is done. Good job with the democracy.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And then as they jet off, they almost like these people all on fire with the wash from their jet engine. This is nation building. And that's the, like, this is the part where I was like, this is terrific. I love it. This is very funny. is it is it a deeply racist caricature of tribal peoples and of non-democratic societies absolutely does it also skewer american military nation building 100% yeah didn't expect it I guess coming off of the coming off of we have to close the sewer hole I wasn't expecting yeah like political allegory and it's very basic political allegory I get it but I think though
Starting point is 01:24:00 the almost torching them with the engines at the end actually literally torching them with the engines and some people get like blown away they're like smoky everyone is smoldering when they leave does work for me it's very funny uh you know it's very funny how this is what america literally does to people by the million um and so they get about 20 more minutes of flight time before they have to land again on a planet that is very like young and still developing and it's like biome. And that's why it looks like a series of baked potatoes are just sort of stacked together to be the local flora. And they have wandered into the Wizard of Oz. And the, no, here, young planet, still developing ecosystem,
Starting point is 01:24:50 but the people who inhabit it, they got blasters. But I guess that's a plane. They have blasters and goggles. Because it turns out there's been a crashed ship here for some time. Where the little, the little droids that we meet in, episode one, the pit droids. Yeah. Bit droids.
Starting point is 01:25:08 They're here. Some of my favorite droids. I love these guys. And I love that because they're such assholes. I love them. Like, this is droid liberation. This is, they see their lane. This is what we've been talking about.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I agree. We've been asking for this. We've been saying, what does it look like when droids rise up and, and, and, and, just go do their own thing and it's this five minute bent you got to do a grift you got to grift some people yeah
Starting point is 01:25:39 yeah they are pretending to be a very big holographic version of the alien people on this planet and they're doing like lightning bolt attacks from I mean they're shooting with their with their ship probably but it uses an electricity attack on these people
Starting point is 01:25:58 and the people are you know worship worship this god figure R2D2 immediately smells it out immediately as like I know this con probably because R2's dreamed of doing it himself
Starting point is 01:26:10 and finds the actually totally exposed like USB hub for their spaceship opens the door goes in and then you have the classic The Wizard of Oz is behind the curtain and you get him talking to someone
Starting point is 01:26:27 back there and then the hologram is talking to the people back there and not the people that they're supposed to be talking to so it becomes very clear that something weird is happening and then those people just go in there with guns
Starting point is 01:26:40 and murder all the droids but also die in the attempt themselves they blow everyone up they blow it all up right the whole thing blows up right ship in the mountain explodes as Artu just rolls but I love that R2 is like
Starting point is 01:26:54 he sees the scam and clearly isn't like I'm going to expose it He's just like, hey, help us out. Like, Archev wasn't a kind of deal. And the droid misinterprets, he's like, no, we got a good thing going here. You get your own, you, you enslave your own organics. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Oh, they're little shitheads, and they die. They die. And then Arcto and 3PO are also dying. They're running out of power. And they... This made me sad. Yeah. It is sad.
Starting point is 01:27:26 I was like sad and scared. Solar panels. they don't have no there's no tax incentive for it yet so they haven't
Starting point is 01:27:34 done it so they haven't done it thank God for the we quay and pirates yeah if Honda had
Starting point is 01:27:45 if this was Honda wow we would have to stand hondo we would have all this would have been the episode
Starting point is 01:27:52 this would have been the turn for us I would have been like I love Honda now I love Honda he saved her boys I would have
Starting point is 01:27:59 had to issue a public apology. Yeah. Get the notes out ready. Well, we don't have to think, for. Yeah, it's just some randos. Stay stating. Doing droid cage fights on their show. They're not even, they're just rolling around the galaxy, scavening droids to operate their pit fighting casino.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah. It's not even clear that there's like betting going on. It's more. It's more so just feels like they built like a really good one and they just like to get other lesser droids to come and fight their really good one for fun.
Starting point is 01:28:41 It's funny. It is. Especially because the droid is winning the fights is, now it is that droid from Wally with the giant jacked forearms and starts beating the shit out of everyone except he's armed with like a flamethrower. And so like
Starting point is 01:28:56 you've got other droids looking at this being like this is bad. We see one of those like insectoid droids and he just looks over and he's like, that's going to be us soon. Sadly, something way worse is waiting for him as this episode turns kind of grim
Starting point is 01:29:16 as grievous shows up. A lot of people die. Blows a hole in their ship. All the pirates dead as they're sucked out in the space R2 and the droids. That's why Honda couldn't be there. Right. Hondo would have run a little game on Grievous. It would have been great at that little Hondo.
Starting point is 01:29:38 But yeah, they get there. They're arrested by the battle droids. They float through space onto the docking bay, like onto the hangar bay. They literally, like, they get blown out of the ship and then R2 uses the little booster jets to fly them into the hangar bay where they get arrested.
Starting point is 01:29:55 And 3PO immediately is like, when we are part of the Republic, shut the fuck up, Friday. Shut the fuck. They're battle droids. They're like the most obviously separatist guys. Like, what are you?
Starting point is 01:30:10 You're supposed to... Deceit is painful for 3Pio. He doesn't understand it. Yeah. Then shut the fuck up Friday. He did. Well, that's why Art2's there. Hold over his foot.
Starting point is 01:30:20 That's why you always have your homie with you. That's true. It's true. And they're just burning these droids alive. They really, are. It's not good. Like, you see the droids, like, being put on a conveyor belt into a furnace, and then, like, do I try to run for it and get shot, or do I just die in the fire?
Starting point is 01:30:37 It's horrible. It's so bleak. I guess they're getting melted down for scrap and, like, maybe getting made into battle droids. It seems like the finished droid is more valuable than the slag you'd get from it, but, you know, maybe. Yeah. Why not just reprogram them? Wait. Okay, wait, okay, sorry.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I'm sorry, because I was just thinking about this. Wait, you're one of the guard droids looking at that hole, right? Yeah. Are you like, that's, that's, that's me in there. Like, I was created from this. Yeah. Like, is that mother? Yeah, that's mom right there.
Starting point is 01:31:16 That's mommy? Yeah, that's mommy. Yeah, that's mommy. Uh-huh. I want there to be like a Like a droid culture that's like Yeah, we worship the The furnace
Starting point is 01:31:33 Grievous is furnace Uh huh I want that episode We'll never get it Anyway, plocoon shows up The end Yeah and once again we're back in that mode Of like now the droids are spectators
Starting point is 01:31:50 To the clones just sweeping in and like massacring the separatists. General Grievous has fled. And that, sorry, Mina has been whipping her little food congs around, demanding, because she's got food. But she doesn't like that it's in a bowl.
Starting point is 01:32:06 She wants a little rubber cong because that's more fun. Yeah. And so she's pissed. Because she's a brilliant, brilliant mind. She's just a little asshole. Sorry. So the clones are victorious.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Plocoon is informed General Grievous as a escaped and then... We don't see him leave, but bye. 3 p.0.2 sort of reveal themselves. Plow, I would have expected plow. He knows these droids. He sees them all the time around the Jedi Temple.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And he pretends not to. He's basically like, yeah, I'm sure you guys have a great story to tell. Tell the general wolf. And leaves. Yep. It's a good plow. is like this is
Starting point is 01:32:55 plow's gonna do what plow's gonna do he doesn't get to fuck about anything else goodbye it's a good moment of that are plow and soul army getting a little bit harder and meaner I think so yeah I was thinking about this in the first episode I was like is this the personality type that we want to see
Starting point is 01:33:16 from plow's bros they were very aggressive they were very dismissive they weren't supportive of C3 with R2D2, which I get. You don't want to deal with that for days. Like, their nerves are on edge and they're, they're fighting a war and doing a stop-off mission. But, like, where's the camaraderie? Right.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Where's, I'm sensing the plow, but not the bro. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the camaraderie is all inward-looking, but not real, like, increasingly divorced from anyone in the Republic. This is the problem with, with, with, with bros. I was going to say forever war, but. Oh, both are you are right.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Both of you are right. Bros and the Forever War both. You know, in fact, what the Forever War did to masculinity, certainly. Yes. True, yeah. Yes. We just need, they need a night out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:13 They need Alads, a lads. They need a lads night. Yeah. Where they go deep into the year. It's like 4.30 a.m. and emotions come out multiple people cry like
Starting point is 01:34:28 they just need to to go back to basics go back to the bro's minds hmm I'm like at 4.30 in the morning that's where the emotions come out yeah you never had a night out
Starting point is 01:34:44 with your bros and you come home and you know that and you're just still you're still going you're like not ready to sleep yet I'm not ready to go to sleep. And you just start keep drinking and suddenly you're getting real existential with it. And maybe you start crying a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Maybe you should. Yeah, maybe you cry. Maybe you connect. You know that TikTok from two years ago when we thought that COVID would be over quick of the dude who's like me walking into the pub after lockdown? And he does the Savage Guard truly madly deeply. Like it's clones of him all singing. I just looking up this TikTok because this is what we. I remember it. I just haven't seen it in ages.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Somebody dig up this. Oh, it's really good. I have to search yearn in my chat with Soha. Here it is. I got you. I got you. We need this. We need the boys. The clones out in the pub, you know, they're all there. They're all joining in. They're all mates. You know, they're all doing little hand gestures, playing darts behind the, behind the bar. you know different generations
Starting point is 01:35:53 lads in the smoking area you know it's all there it's what we need it's like that plus the other TikTok of the dude right before lockdown started that did did the TikTok that became the lockdown experience of like
Starting point is 01:36:10 playing call of duty with the bros after like oh you're right that was before that was right before it was right before lockdown it's like him like logging into logging into cod again after like yes This is great. This is, what's the Roddy Rich song?
Starting point is 01:36:27 Yeah. I was just looking at this. I was just looking at this like three weeks ago, but that means I'm never going to find it, unfortunately. This is how this goes. Listeners, right in if you know where this TikTok is. I need these vintage turn of the pandemic experiences. The one that was all, I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I got it. I got it. What did you search? Because I searched cod with the bros. I had already done my long search months ago, or like, what is this, in January for this video. So I just searched my history. It was still there. Yeah, it's coming home from the, coming home and hopping on your, your PS5 and seeing that everybody's in a party together.
Starting point is 01:37:10 This is them coming home from, like, the battle they did that day. It's so good. It's so good. Kev joined the party. Kev, is that Kev? Whole squad is back. There's no way, bro. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:37:30 All right, we're just watching TikToks now. That's the quality of these episodes this week. That's the show. This is the energy that could have saved the Republic. This is what they need. We also need video of British lads hitting each other with chairs. Oh, yeah. But clones.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Yeah, please. Hey, is anyone good at source filmmaker? Can you do a Clone Wars version of British lands and each other with chairs? Thank you. I'll commission it. They just have to do that with C3PO and then they'll bond enough that they'll be able to listen to his stories. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:38:08 That's a real droid spot. Now I'm on the C3PO join Honda arc. Like, that's what I want for him. I think we're just going to have to we'll have to write the fan fiction we want to see into the world you're right we really will
Starting point is 01:38:24 it's on us this is the gateway see this is how the gateway yawns open for you is you're like you know it would have been better if this other thing had happened
Starting point is 01:38:33 maybe like an alternate universe where like and then yeah and then it gets picked up and you get to rewrite it with new character names what was fanfic is now a bestseller
Starting point is 01:38:44 this could be us you know all our problems are from Wapad to the Walmart literature shelves. I have a question for Austin. Uh-oh. Last episode, you said this, that that, the last podcast episode when we did the
Starting point is 01:39:06 Long Kyle Arc, you said something that has stuck with me. It stuck with me while I was watching these three episodes. Uh-huh. And it was that last episode was the most you've ever felt like you were watching a children's show and felt stupid for doing this podcast. How did this arc compared to that? You know, the nice thing is I'd already hit bottom
Starting point is 01:39:27 and so it was just like, I don't think, I don't know that this was lower. It was right at the same level. So, and I knew we would get out without a two hour, like before two hours on this episode. Because I thought that we would last time. And what I learned was that last time was almost a feast
Starting point is 01:39:44 of things to talk about, to complain about. There was a lot to complain about. Sure. We were talking about TikToks for five minutes And it might be better content Than the rest of the episode They don't even hear the TikToks But yeah
Starting point is 01:39:57 There's no ambition in these episodes Like there's nothing trying to be done Like that's why the first one is so disappointing Because it's like the chess board is there And you're looking at it And you're seeing all your favorite characters And then it's just like Charger Biggs is going to put on this funny hat
Starting point is 01:40:13 Yeah Oh my god I forgot the Jar Jar Jar part was a part of this Like I already forgot about the Jar Jar Jar Jar It's already gone. Yeah. We have a real arc next, though. Right. This is like the next, we like need to stretch before we do this next one.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Well, so I think next time we're, it's a four episode arc. I think we'll do two and two. Yes. After, wait, you're saying after that or we're going to do this with two as two and two? I would say do this one as two and two. Okay. Otherwise, it's going to be a big one. It's going to be a big one.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yeah, that's fair. Like, we still want two hours on this. We did. We did. If this next one is meat If this next one is meat If this next one is meaty No I think we're going to say
Starting point is 01:40:55 If this next one was meat If this next one was meat But in the Elizabethan sense Like ah After these two Like Disappointing desultory episodes Seems quite neat
Starting point is 01:41:07 That we should go to Ambara So we're going to watch The first two we're going to watch the first two episodes of the umbara arc and that'll be good Mina cost you some problems back there off I'm hoping a dish didn't just eat eat shit but yes we're going to watch darkness on umbara and the general
Starting point is 01:41:37 and that's going to be in two weeks next week our patron backers will get to hear our Q&A On these episodes, the Moncala arc, if any of you asked their questions about that. But also, I am sure we are sitting on some good emails around the Patreon episode we did for the book of Boba fat. So if you'd like to hear that or just want to support the show, but this Q&A is going to be a banger, I think. You can do so at patreon.com slash civilized. There's so much more to say about the book of boba. I'm not sure this Patreon is going to be a banger.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Send in questions. Sometimes people hear, oh, this Q&A is going to be a big. bang. Oh, yeah. And they go, oh, okay, I mean,
Starting point is 01:42:18 I don't have to send in a question. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can't be a banger without you. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Our listener. Send you your questions to be more similar. A more civilization gmail. com. That's where to send a question is we should say it
Starting point is 01:42:34 on this part of the show and not Twitter only. I do have to say, though, that I have been thinking about Luke Skywalker for like 48 hours straight and I can't stop doing it
Starting point is 01:42:45 and that's when our next Q&A is going to be about because we did some Googling about Grogu's age and the implications of it and the way that I'm thinking about Luke Skywalker and like I just
Starting point is 01:42:58 my heart is with it right so people who don't know we did a not everybody knows this I guess we did a Patreon episode on Book of Boba Fett and then at the end of that episode before I published it the Obi-Wan Kenobi trailer dropped
Starting point is 01:43:13 so we watched that and between I think those two things, Luke has been on people's mind. Allie's mind. Well, he's certainly been on Obi-Wan's mind. In retrospect, that bit where he's just staring at Luke through the binoculars, it's funnier and funnier. The more I think about it, how do you
Starting point is 01:43:30 like, how do we communicate that Obi-Wan has a long-term plan here and is concerned about the future of the Skywalker dynasty? In the bush. Does the tattooing have bushes? No. I don't know. Obie Kwan has just carried one over. Hey, why is there a shrub?
Starting point is 01:43:46 Uh, Owen, uh, why is there a shrub on the edge of our property? Anyway. Oh, I just assumed you were getting into T-T-R-A-Rey-A-Rey. Patreon. Patreon.com slash civilized to hear our take on Book of Boba-Fa-Fat. And also, if you don't think we got 20 minutes out of that, uh, Obi-1 Canobi trailer, you're wrong. We truly did.
Starting point is 01:44:10 So. And still there's more to say. Um, uh, until next time, please rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice, especially on iTunes. People no longer giving us as many reviews. You don't think we need them. Yeah, slow it up.
Starting point is 01:44:25 This is like the question. This is how you give us feedback, but really, this is how you give us validation and praise, too. We have a bottomless appetite for it. Much like Anakin just craves the approval of the Jedi and the knowledge that he is sufficient. That is how I look to our reviews. But, of course, I also welcome honest feedback, really,
Starting point is 01:44:44 but mostly I want those five-star reviews but like you know critique welcome I'm open to but it's also just nice to hear you doing a great job and you're killing it but put the critique under a five-star review yeah yeah you don't like this three-star one that's like no that one you don't love so much
Starting point is 01:45:03 from G it's hot out there no you don't even out feeling it from G is hot out there gee it's hot out there I just want to tell you specifically I love Star Wars Okay I love Star Wars That's why we do a podcast on it
Starting point is 01:45:22 Gee, it's hot out there Writing from Mustafar How upset do you think Charles James was after watching that Floody's on that week Imagine you get pissed Josh James was the middle one He was like very blatantly insulted
Starting point is 01:45:41 By being like I guess a lot of Darth fans like clone wars. Imagine you get the PM that's like, question has been selected. Yeah. Stay tuned. Fair to come out of this.
Starting point is 01:45:58 And then it's, it's following to be like, another fucking Darth. I guess it makes sense. And he was like, you know, hey, you know, there's no bad questions. We love all your questions. But also stop asking them.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Clear your mind. Oh, well, here's the thing. We're not going to get a Filoni zone next episode. Why? Oh, because we're going to cut this arc. Because the way it works now, it's art. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:46:22 So we'll have to, we'll have to sustain ourselves on this Filoni zone. Know that we're going through a dry period. And that we'll reconnect with demand of the hat in two episodes. Well, this week was a nourishing felonie zone. So I think we're going to be okay. And we get us through this winter to me. Yeah, we're, our batteries are not going to be dying. middle of a weird desert
Starting point is 01:46:44 on a weird planet agreed all right so we'll be back next week with the Patreon Q&A once again that's patreon.com so civilized give us those reviews
Starting point is 01:46:54 uh in two weeks we'll be back with the start of the umbara arc until then uh just remember to clean those guts off of R2
Starting point is 01:47:03 I'm begging they're starting to come up they're starting to come up Ha ha ha ha. Thank you. Thank you. Oh!
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