A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 35: The Obi-Wan Undercover Arc Pt. 2 (Clone Wars 83-84)

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Everything is going swimmingly for Moralo Eval's dastardly plan. Along with certified killers Cad Bane and Rako Hardeen (shh), he's escaped Coruscant, evaded his Jedi pursuers, and arrived on Count Dooku's homeworld of Serenno. Now it's time for the real plan to begin: Everybody get into the box! What? Did you not imagine that the remainder of this arc hinged on a callback to a 1997 indie horror premise? Well don't worry, it doesn't. It was all a fifth dimensional chess ploy anyway. All according to plan.  NEXT TIME: Episodes 85 & 86 ("Massacre" & "Bounty") You can support the show and gain access to a monthly Q&A cast by going to patreon.com/civilized Show Notes Bounty Hunter Deaths: Bulduga, Onca, Kiera Swan, Sinrich, Jakoli, Mantu, Sixtat The Cube Trailer Cad Bane Fancam Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Austin Walker Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)    

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Clone Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zakney, joined by Ali Akampora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. So the last time we saw Obi-Wan Kenobi, he was deep undercover with a deadly band of criminals to infiltrate a plot to kidnap Chancellor Palpatine. He'd been forced to fight his friends, to take part in murder and mayhem, and had to convince a suspicious Confederate like Cadbane, that he wasn't a cop. But now we hit the most iconic part of the classic undercover story that we all remember from movies like Donnie Brasco and Infernal Affairs, the part where the hero has to prove themselves by winning a contest that is a mix of American Ninja Warrior and Portal.

It's maybe no surprise that things get a bit weird here in the denouement of this plot because the scheme has to fail, but fail in such a way that really leaves. no mark on the story whose absence would seem odd in Revenge of the Sith. So we get an action-adventure, it might be kind of a filler episode called The Box, in which Count Duku and mastermind Moralo of all choose their kidnapping team by forcing a bunch of bounty hunters to do battle inside a giant escape room slash Quake 3 deathmatch map, with the winners getting a huge payday to join the kidnapping mission against Palpatine. obi i cannot believe how much time they've set aside for this for this draft basically uh for

for this combine day uh obi won emerges as the mvp and this makes mara wall really weirdly jealous prompting him to try and kill obi one but cadmaine saves him as a mark of their growing respect as a reward obi won in surviving bounty hunters head off to the kidnapping job that we see in crisis on naboo Crisis on Nebou and we'll just cover the remainder of the arc I think here up front Crisis on Nabu features the Jedi and their allies preparing to defend Palpatine

during Nabu's iconic festival of light while Obi-1 is made part of the kidnapping preparations and attempts to leak the details to the Jedi but there are of course schemes within schemes and as the Jedi play cat and mouse games against the kidnappers

and red herrings abound eventually the plot is foiled but maybe it was foiled a bit too easily and we get the final reveal which is that the plot was designed to fail so that everyone would let their guard down and they could kidnap Palpatine

out of a moonlit castle at night and we get some of the weirdest vibes from Palpatine that we have seen so far in the series I cannot believe no one is noticing the expressions on his face and we start to get more signs of how easily Anakin is nagged toward the dark side

but eventually they do manage to drive off Duku and save Palpatine and Obi-Wan and Anakin the super friends are reunited and seemingly once again at peace yeah

that's these episodes do you just talk about the box first. Let's talk about the box first. Let's talk about the box. There is an incredible sequence in the beginning of the box. I mean, there's a number of incredible sequences. I don't actually, let me slow down. Because the box does open up with like everybody going to Serrano and meeting

Duku and all of that. But actually, maybe the most important scene in the episode is not the funny one I want to talk about or the other funny one I want to talk about. It's when Yoda straight up says to Anakin, Skywalker, a powerful Jedi you are, you're unpredictable and dangerous you can be to both your friends and enemies, which is what he tells Anakin when he goes to talk to, uh, to Yoda to be like, yo, what the fuck? Actually, no, he doesn't do that. He gets summoned by Yoda, doesn't he? Yeah. Yoda summons him and he shows up and says, you summoned me master. And then he says to, Toyota, oh, we want, still alive.

And he's like, is like gesturing towards like, bro, what's up? And Yoda's response is to be like, yeah you're you're very unpredictable you're very hard to track and you know obiwan needed to depend on patience in this situation and i think that that's like it drills down like that's what these episodes end up being really about especially the end of the next one is like oh this is about Anakin slipping further from the Jedi and towards palpatine and in fact I think I think the next episode is about palpatine shooting a shot and it missing it's just kind of presaging

everything that's going to happen in the beginning of return to the Sith and it gets derailed at the last possible second but I think that's probably the most important thing what were our Yoda vibes

during this conversation he's straight up with him he is not wrong that Anakin is unpredictable and dangerous but there's no and so or like yeah

because like there's no it's just like the fact that people constantly talk at Anakin of like you are this way this is you are this thing you are this unpredictable you are this like you know chaos agent and then Anakin's just like left to sit with that and there's no there's a war on Natalie you know he's a grown man he's a Jedi he's a Jedi knight he's not a paddle on okay but what's not dangerous and unpredictable about what the fuck Obi-Wan's doing right now.

That's a different thing. That's a different thing. They're talking, like, Yoda is made, like, Yoda's correct. This is an accurate assessment of Anakin. What Anakin's supposed to do here is reflect on this. This is as close to, like, a straight-up, like, real talk. This is why you are treated this way.

Like, this is why you feel like people do not trust you. It is because they do not. Yeah. And it is because you have not earned that trust. When it has been extended to you, you have fucked it up and failed it. Anakin is supposed to sit there with that and maybe act on it and learn for it. Like, this is a case where I am so on Team Yoda for this, where it's like, what are you supposed to do? Like, this is, this is, this is the job, kid.

You know, like, you need to, like, learn to be one of the Jedi. and like you will be included on these plots but you're a little you're a little dark-sighted my friend you're a little bit you freak us out just a bit and also kind of fuck things up so we killed your best friend but not real okay maybe that's part that's the part where it starts to sound works yeah that's bad I will say the context where all of this is like you know what I take it back

this is a great real talk conversation to have outside the high heightened circumstances of so we killed your best friend and it depended on his like anakin was a crucial point in this entire plan because it was on a hit on the validity of his emotional reaction your unhinged dip shittery what's key to this entire listen if you don't want your unhinged dip shittary to be part of the plan don't be an unhinged dipshit shit uh the thing of i think about a lot of the last week is like they probably could have brought him in on this plan, if they had been like, yo, we just need you to act dark-sighted as hell. Yeah.

He'd probably be like, I don't know. Or do you think he would have been like, no, because I'm not dark-sighted as hell. I wouldn't ever do that. This is Natalie's point that this is like a mentorship moment. And like being honest and being straight up is one thing. But to be like, well, you have to, like, he's not the only like flighty Jedi. Like, has Yoda not have to, had to pull people in before?

There are thousands of Jedi. I think he's one of 20 who is like this. But, like, why can't, why doesn't he have the, the, the vocabulary to say also, you know, I think that other things

that might help you. I think that they're bad at it because they truly don't deal with people like this. Sure. Do you know, like, who else is he dealing with who is like this? Because Quinlan Voss is like this,

but he just doesn't do this. he goes off and deals with his own shit I mean we don't I haven't read those comics It sounds like he does go off and do some Like he has like a big undercover arc also basically Right so like but I think that I think that in most cases They're like all right you're a Jedi knight You're kind of independent in a way

What will change is whether or not you like lose your Jedi ship Which happens very rarely Or you get brought up to being a master Or you get retired to the archives or whatever But like there's a lot of Jedi just on their own recognizance like the one who recruited Asage Ventress, right, out there on the fucking wild. So I think that there's a degree to which you're kind of like licensed to kill out there, you know? Which is a problem.

This is not a way to run an organization. Yeah. I mean, but like you, but you can't, you can't, you can't use Anakin's own history against him in that way to say, you're dangerous. We don't trust you. We didn't trust you from the start. You became, you were in this position. Because, like, I mean, they didn't want Anakin to be a night in the first place, right? Hold on, though.

Hold on. You can't use Anakin's own history against him when the thing that issue is his track record. You cannot use past behavior to predict future behavior and explain to people why they're their concerns about future behavior. You can't do that, but you can't, like, you've had those feelings about him from the start. And to not be able to be like... And they've been right every time. But what has Anakin really done that they know about? He's moved.

That's a really good point. It's like... That's what I'm saying. I mean, he's the like, give me your badge and your gun. You're too wild, right? People do keep ending up dead where other Jedi would not... Would have brought them in. You know what I mean?

Krell. Alert. Krell has been fucking killing. Yeah, and he's dead now, so they don't have to worry about it. Now, like, this is like, there's a episode of Seinfeld where Elaine, you know, fit. She is, like, put on coat check duty at someone else's party and flings an expensive coat out the window out of spite. And the host is like, you have to pay to replace that coat. But she's like, but they don't know that I destroyed the code.

They don't know that I did that. So where did they get off making me pay to replace the coat? And I think maybe this is, this is the word thing. there is a degree, there's a warped, like, sense in which that makes sense, where it's like, and he was like, they don't know about that village full of sand people. They can't hold that against me. This is, I mean... But that's why they just keep saying the vibes are off, and they are, and their power is

knowing if vibes are off. Yeah, but they're so bad, and even think fucking Palpatine's right next to them, and they don't know the vibes are off. No, but this whole episode is about how they know that Palpatine's vibes are off, because they don't tell him anything. This whole episode is them being like, this whole arc is them being like, we cannot even tell Palpatine about this shit because there's shit just keeps getting back somewhere

I mean is the solution they should have just Truman showed Anakin where like right after the funeral everyone's like hey great job Anakin you really sold the fact that you really think Obi-Wan is dead but of course with your extraordinary Jedi sensitivity you know that he's alive on a secret mission for the Jedi yeah we didn't tell you because we of course knew that you knew yeah and he'd be like

Yeah. Yeah, of course I knew. That's, yes. That's true. I mean, I did get to the end of this five-episode arc feeling like, oh, this was all for the last five minutes of the last episode. Like that, it was, everything felt like just a way in which to get to the beginnings of this. of the tenuous relationship that we will see in Revenge of the Sith. Like, this was the first time, like, the end of the next episode was the first time I was like, oh, shit. Like, we are getting to the point where Revenge of the Sith stuff is going to start. It's about to happen.

Yeah, is influencing the relationships that we see going forward. I, like, I felt like there was a heist done on me at the end of this episode, of the end of the next episode, in which, like, I got halfway through the episode and was like, this episode's over. What the fuck is happening? And then realizing, oh, okay, no, they have not forgotten this plot line about Anakin being pissed and, in fact, are going to just do the beginning of Revenge of the Sith. It was like, I appreciated that a lot.

And I'm mad at Star Wars.com for a thing about this. I'm just going to read it now and get mad about it briefly, and we'll get back to the box. I'm going to read you the summary from foiling a from Crisis on Nabu on their rewatch. And I want to say up top, maybe it's written this way because it's part of a full chronological. rewatch of the five original seasons of the show before the sixth season came out and maybe they're like people might be watching everything in star wars chronologically so we can't reference revenge of the Sith because it hasn't happened yet maybe that's why it's written this way but this is also the person who wrote the episode recap that was like and mace windu had a lot

of wisdom for young boba fed at the end of da da da da so this person writes synopsis the chancellor travels to nabu to preside over public ceremony guarded by Jedi Knights duku and his hunters, including an undercover Obi-Wan, launched their kidnapping plot. Analysis. It turns out, Count Duku's plot has a plan B and a plan C. Layers to be peeled back to reveal his final confrontation with Anakin Skywalker

in the banquet hall. The individual Jedi's ability to save Chancellor Palpatine's life twice in the same day, and the deception of the Jedi Council by separatists highlights both their greatest strength and greatest weakness. Defenders of the Republic, the former peacekeepers, are skilled warriors and strategists, cutting soldiers

on the battlefield, as well as in more unique scenarios, like counteracting the political assassination plot. But they didn't foresee the way Duku would manipulate the situation, a sleight of hand that allowed the Jedi's attentions to be diverted away from the real kidnapping taking place, or his next move to strike when their guard was down, the security detail satisfied that the plot had been foiled. The end. They don't mention at all the stuff with Palpatine and Anakin at the end of this episode.

They don't mention at all that, like, you know, that, like, you know, The whole thing that is happening here, the actual heist, the thing being, the thing being stolen is not Palpatine. It's Anakin. This whole thing is rule of two. We're seeing it happen. Palpatine's, this whole thing, this whole four-parter is about getting Anakin and Duku in the room so that he can do the rule of two thing. And be like, all right, time for me to get a new apprentice. Anakin's going to kill Duku right here, right now. And if he does, he becomes Palpatine. Apprentice right there, I guarantee it. That's like, he's two steps away from saying, do it. He's all the shit that, if you go back to listen to us talking about, Rwinter the Sith, I want to say Rob maybe said, talked about the positioning that Palpatine had in that, in that beginning of that movie when he was like being, you know, guarded by droids, but really very clearly like standing like arms crossed very comfortable among, among them

because they're his droids. All of that same blocking is all done here in that episode. and it drives me crazy that the Star Wars.com recap mentions none of this. There is not even one little nod to the fact that this whole arc ends up being about Anakin's eventual slip to the dark side and the ways in which Palpatine is like puppeteering the entire thing towards that end. So that's my rant against Star Wars.com. We can talk more in depth about those scenes when we get there.

Okay. The box. Funny scene number one about the box. Is it the scene I'm thinking of? You tell me, you tell me. They land on, they land on Sereno. Yeah. Duku welcomes them is like, I see you have Cadbane here.

Hello, Val. Who is this guy? And of all's like, this guy killed Obi-Wan with a sniper, but, you know, it was, he killed open one, whatever. And then they're like, okay, we're going to do this little game and we're going to go in. And then both Cad-Bain and like, it's. and Obi-Wan, like, walk past Eval and just, like, shoulder him, like, both at the same time

as they, like, walk past him? I actually missed that. It's very funny. He's picking up on the fact that the power dynamic is shifted because they're, like... Oh, they get shit done, the two of them. They're actually out there busing their butts, and Eval is just sitting in the back, you know?

It's so funny to me. It's, like, Cadbane does it first, then you can kind of feel like, Obi-Wan's like, yeah, fuck you, too. That's so funny. I did miss that. Oh, boy, just going full in-character bounty hunting. That actually, you know what?

That makes me feel a little bit better about his shift in this episode. Yeah, me too. I didn't pick up on that because so much of it is about the fact that, like, he isn't shit as a mastermind. He does not live up to the reputation at any point during the escape. And so he starts to pick up on the fact that, like, the two guys who were like his underlings, even though they were his henchmen, have reached the conclusion that he's an empty shirt.

Yeah. 100% that's really fun he's the last one to walk in behind all the droids yeah the funniest the funny scene that I the first funny scene the one that I stopped watching this podcast at was this episode at so we could do this podcast with me watching it fresh

was a nice hat where'd you get it says Cadbane to one of the other bounty hunters gathered here moments before shooting him in the face and taking his hat and then looking at Obi-Wan and going what are you looking at it's a nice hat

Was that his original hat, or is he just upgrading hat? I thought that before, but... Hold on, I need to look at... Yeah, we need to... We need Caddane hat comparison. I think that is his original hat. Are the implying it's his actual hat or like an identical make? Who could say?

I think it's his actual hat. I think it's his actual hat. Because he lost his hat because he went to jail, right? Right, right, exactly. So, you know, it probably went up on like... Bounty Hunter, eBay. Or this guy screwed him over. Yeah.

Took his hat. They were doing a job together. Then the second funny scene is the scene that just will not end where they start introducing the bounty hunter names. I love this one. I was like, time to write this down. All right. Kyrus Swan, two-time winner of the obsidian sphere. Got it.

Derrone, known simply as the exterminator. Sixthal, the outlands butcher. Enbo, your bounty hunter tallies are second only to one last season. Cad Bain, who needs no introduction. Rocco Hardine, the marksman of the marksman of Concord Don. Jekoli, not for never bringing anyone back alive. Unka,

or Onsa, you and your brother have been a legendary team. This challenge, the guy's, yeah, the brother is the one who got shot. They got to the sad brother. This challenge made proved difficult for you alone. Twazi, your acrobatic is what's there and you prays from Chancellor of Valorum. Sinrich, Inventure of the

the holographic disguise matrix and finally meant to your people were once a peaceful race how far they have fallen what the fuck this is the point of the episode where I was like do we need to do a brother check it because like why are you keeping

track of all these people why are these facts in your head the sneezing thing is so funny like are there leaderboards right yes I guess so I guess so he just drops that Everyone's like Elo like

Resets at the top of each season A hundred percent DeCadbean by the Battle Pass That's why everybody likes him more He prestige that hat Nobody else gets that fucking hat That's why Yeah 100%

It's just so funny Because you've to understand that the camera Is just switching between all of the littlest freaks You've ever seen Actually all of the biggest freaks you've ever seen It's incredible One little freak Yeah there's one little freak

There's a motherfucker who just looks like what if you did a human different in here? Sinrich just looks like he's human too. You know what I mean? We got people with face tattoos. We got people who are doing acrobatic tricks. We got people wearing bandanas. We got people with big old noses.

The thing is, this is Ocean's 11. It is. It's literally 11 bounty hunters. And everyone gets introduced. It's like, okay, who do we need for the job? We need the acrobatics guy. we need a hundred percent but then danny ocean goes and now you'll step into my murder box because even though you would all help for this plan i actually'm going to kill you down

until we have less of you to work with but i so desperately want the the the the show of about these 11 uh bounty hunters just doing heists and like i don't know ransacking that casino at the end of uh that's in the sequel sequel movies like i just want i want I want that. I want them in cahoots together, doing little adventures so badly. It also helps, again, reestablish that, like, what's a bounty hunter and what's a criminal in this world? There's, like, very little divide. Because they're all bounty hunters. That, like, that season information is public, and what they do is bounty hunters is perfectly legal, right? They work with the bounty hunters' guild. They're going after legal bounties. But, like,

they're signing up to, they're all willing, including Enbo, who last we saw defendants. saving Asoka from Trent Ocean killers basically doing this and then before that protecting that village for money back in when we first met Embo Now he's going to kidnap the chancellor This is a big step between

their day-to-day bounty hunter stuff and what this job is about But it does make a lot of sense where it's like if you view it as like it's a place where the frontier is like actually limitless and the state is not an inevitability

and so you're over here you can be a bounty hunter working for the law you go over there you can be an international terrorist and over there a bank robber and everyone's just aware that you're up to that And it's like, yeah, you know, like, yeah, you're racking up, you're racking up mission counts.

You're grinding XP in these various contexts. It's so wild. And, like, you know, our real frontier story equivalents obviously have some overlap. You think about people like Wyatt Earp who are like, yeah, like they did some law manning. There's also like bounty hunting. Like some dirt. Yes, exactly, 100%. Right.

And so that's kind of, there is, that does exist. So I don't mind it. And I do just love being with a weird mushroom-headed motherfucker. I love that guy. Who can walk through lasers or whatever the fuck his power is. He's just floating. Like, he just floats. It's so cool.

He's a mushroom. Yeah, I want more of, like, people were acting like I would hate these episodes after liking the first two. They're like, oh, yeah, you got to watch the next ones, though. It's like, yeah, they're not the film noir thing that I loved about the first two. Like that, or the face-off bit from the first one. but like it's still a bunch of fucked up little freaks in Star Wars doing

Bounty Hunter shit and this is my vibe So yeah I think for me it's just like If I'm Cadbane No I'm not going your fucking box Yeah I agree like I'm not like I don't think I'm Cadbane Yeah right Like you've got my CV

Like you know my rate You know Like you can put the rest of these guys in the box If you're serious about this Like call me after But don't wait It's the thing They're all like, well, I guess we got to, I guess we got to play along with the, with the dumbass murder game.

It's, no, you don't. Yeah. Also, is this what Morale Eval evolve does is build murder boxes for a living? When did he have time to design this big murder box? I don't know. We should be clear. It's just in jail. Like, it's, yeah, it's a giant, like, multi-story box in the middle of Serrano that they load into, they get into, and then go from, like,

like little fucked up room to little fucked up room and do saw games. It's, it's, it's like, it's like, also, uh, Evol shows up on the screen, like on the walls as a screen like a fucked up jigsaw figure doing, introducing squid games episodes. Like, it's so fucked up. It's so funny. You could invest those resources into just killing, though, Chancellor. Like, what's, and is it like, did Aval design this and was like, hey, Duku, you want to see this really cool thing that I have?

Or did Duku commission it because he's just, like, gone off of the rule of two and, like, is missing Ventress and, like, the mall stuff didn't work out? And he's like, I got to put people at a box and see who's the strongest because I don't know how else to function. This is TV, I think. Like, this is just, like, a funny little, like, fun time for Duku. Like, I think Duku, he appreciates the theater, the theater of it all. Like, he's watching the performance. I think that entertains him.

Like, I do think there's a little bit of a. just like this is how they're going to spend the afternoon watching a bunch of From Dugu's standpoint none of it's real so I guess

to an extent does make perfect sense that he's like you know what this kidnapping it's not real the war not real I'm just going to sit here on Serrano

and commission a murder cube and see everyone run around it and make ominous noises about like tut tut they're doing too well with your cube and make everyone nervous.

Like, none of these tasks have anything to do with kidnapping the chancellor. They're all just funny little games. None of them are like, oh, can you like convincingly trick a clone? Or can you do, you know, anything directly useful to the mission we're about to do? No, they're just funny little fun games. And nobody, like, Obi-Wan is the one. one who solves every single puzzle. Yeah.

Every single puzzle. Like, that's why I think I buy Cadbane being here because I feel like Cadbane's just like, all right, I'm just going to vibe my way through this. And like, I'm not going to lift a finger essentially, except for when he suddenly becomes bros with Obi-Wan and saves him. But I feel like, Obi-Wan, this was the part that was confusing to me. Obi-Wan figuring everything out first and then being like, hey guys, I figured out

helping people was like the dead giveaway in my mind. Super giveaway, yeah. I get it in the sense that like, I think this is the problem with the conceit at the end of the day is that like on one hand you're supposed to want to kill other people here or let them die so that you get to be one of the five who goes on the job. On the other hand, five people have to live to go through the job. And so it's like, you do need to get some people forward.

I almost wish there'd been more like survivor style, like team building. Do you know what I mean? Like, like alliance making and breaking, where like he and Bain clearly by the end of it have decided to be like a pair. But like, and obviously if the brothers had lived, they would have been a pair too. But like it would be funny if there was like, oh, the acrobat and the and, you know, one of the other brother or like the acrobat and the and the weird. mushroom guy like decided to be buds and like try to like team up to take people out or something then that would have made more sense to me and then it would have been obiwan like trying to save as maybe the people who aren't trying to kill him or whatever but instead it's just he's always in save everybody mode and you could have fun with the save everybody mode like i just flash back to uh one of my favorite um dormunder uh novels are familiar with the series there's a series of um like comedy caper novels by Donald Westlake that started this like thief named Dortmunder and the thing is like he's a master thief but everything goes wrong it's like what if

everything Danny Ocean touched like turned to legit shit and at the end like usually the book ends with like lots of people going to jail you know the the the loot going to a third party gets stolen but doesn't have their hands but there's there's a there's a story where he ends he's like robbing some like robber baron ends up falling into the middle of this guy's like fucking coup attempt with like international mercenaries and to get out of it he starts like trying to unionize the mercenaries and he starts like just poking all sorts of holes in the plan of like we're going to get killed if we got here and do this and everyone's like yeah you know this guy makes some really good points like yeah fuck this is bullshit this whole plan sucks but it is the moment that he suggests like and you know what we're We shouldn't even go. We shouldn't even work for these guys. It's the record scratch moment where everyone realizes this guy is not who he says he is. Because if you're in this room, you're the type of dip shit who's like, and for all of that, I want that money and I want this job.

That's why you're there to begin with. Yeah. And it is, it is Obi-Wan being like, got to save everybody. It should have raised some flags. And instead, he just ends up being, yeah, the generous bounty hunter. I think it does with Duku, surprisingly with no one else. Right, well, like, the thing that ends up being revealed is almost that, like, it's clear that by the end of this, it's, it's, to me, it seems as if Palpatine knew that something was fucked with Duku's plan or that there'd be a Jedi involved in this. He didn't know who the Jedi was, but Duku was basically on the lookout for someone who was in on it, which is why he gets the tracer and the,

the microphone in the next episode, right? He literally does know that it's that something's up with it. But the thing that I just realized in re-watching this scene that follows where the gas scene

no. After the gas scene when they're in the lightsaber room yeah it cuts to Aval and Duku in the observation room and Duku's like I sent something different about that one and it's like Obi-Wan looking straight at the camera

And he was like, oh, yeah, that's, that's, you know, whatever his name is. That's Raco Hardeen, the one who killed. Yeah, the one who killed Obi-Wan Kenobi. And Dukha goes, Obi-Wan Kenobi, did Duku not know that Obi-Wan was dead? Yeah, he didn't. So the whole thing about it, depending on Anakin's reaction, literally doesn't, didn't, was not. Not at the Duku level, no. But that's what they said.

They said that it had to be real to sell it to Duku. Well, Duku's not watching the news like they thought that they would. It convinces Evol. It convinces the people in, you know, the prison or whatever, you know? Mm-hmm. But not Duke. Yeah, Evald thinks he's the guy who killed. But not because of Anakin.

I think it helps sell it. The word is out there that Anakin's busting heads, you know, breaking into bars. I guess so, maybe. Yeah. Was it that they needed to make the sniper think that. he really did it so that he could be like, I really did it in the bar, remember? Yeah, it could be that. You're right, though, that it doesn't make sense.

And I feel like the force maybe needs like a patch or something that you're, you're, you're, Obi-1 is there doing force tricks the entire time and you're not like, hmm, that's this is curious. I actually, I actually thought he was holding back his force powers a little bit here. Because he's like, there's jumps he could be making that he is not making. here. I did, I did, when he's like jumping from the lightsaber, uh, yeah, the second room is that there are pillars pushing in from all around the room that have yellow lightsabers to

stab you with or orange lightsabers to stab you with. And Obi-Wan figures out that you got to like platform the platforms. He realizes it's Sonic the hedgehog, yeah. And he definitely could be doing like bigger flips and stuff. Like he the way he moves from platform or platform is much more human-like. than he doesn't skip any platforms for any of us. He's clambering.

Watching him do it, it felt like such a thing of like, oh, being a Jedi is living your life on this weird cheat mode because like, not only can he like sense which ones

are going to come out on time and be like, watch my rhythm or whatever, but like he also had access to an education that let him be like, well, you could take the blood serum

or whatever. He did. He did. He absolutely. activated Safari Obi-Wan mode in that sequence. Oh, that's a species that has this blood property. Right. But like, as Duku is someone who like knows, who should know that Hardin shouldn't have access to like that library, but maybe a Jedi would.

Like, why aren't you in that, especially when your face is on the fucking thing watching the fight? Because I genuinely think that like at this point, he's been primed to just let the Jedi through. That's why his gun only has one. bullet and he has the recorder on him at the end. No, his gun only has, wait, which gun? His sniper rifle is only given one charge, one shot at the end of that thing. Like, it's a setup on Obi-Wan. Yeah, was that, yeah, I guess that was Dugu doing it.

Hmm? Isn't that a VAL who does that to Obi-Wan and not Duku? No, no, no, not in this episode, the next episode. The next episode when he has the recorder in his, in his suitcase, it's so that, it's so Duku and Palpatine, not Palpatine directly, but that side, the separatists can hear what is being reported back to the Jedi because they know that he's... So, like, they want one of these people to be a Jedi because they want that intel so that this plan goes off without a hitch, basically, you know? It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give us a spy so we can bug your spy so we know what you're reporting back so we can play against you. My feeling in the scene where it's like, and that's the one who killed Obi-Wan and Duke is like, Obi-Wan, I feel like that's the one of the game is given away.

Like Duku's like reaction to me at that moment suggested like he's not dead and I know he's not dead. And now as I look at that guy, I'm increasingly convinced that's Obi-Wan. It's true. Because in the next observation cut we get, he's like, I'm thinking, you know, Hardin is really good. I'm thinking Hardin should be the one to lead this mission. So I think he's kind of singling out the fact that Obi-Wan should make it to the next. next, like, to the final round. Like, Obi-Wan should absolutely be a part of the mission.

But... Instead, it sends Zvall Joker mode even more so than normal. He's jealous. He's jealous little bad. We don't even need to go beat by beat here, but, like, there's a weird puzzle where there's, like, a laser grid that's going to kill them, but the mushroom guy can inject a serum to make him... They keep saying calling him a gas bag, and the Wiki, or the Star Wars.com thing also said that

he's, like, a gassy person. he's like a gas-filled, like, flesh monster, but he just looks like a spore person to me. He just looks like a mushroom person to me. Anyway, he, if he takes this juice, if he injects this juice, I guess, he can walk through laser grids or laser walls without dying, and so he does it. They get through that one. And then the last one that we already kind of gestured out was, like, it's a sniper rifle, or it's a shooting gallery thing.

And Obi-Wan steps up to do it after it, after it revealed that it's like, if you miss, you die, and he does it, but then he runs out a bullet. or energy shots or whatever, and, uh, and that is where he's like, aha, you're gonna fucking die, Obi-Wan. And everyone else is like, no, boo, boo. Even if he was like, bro. Yeah, stop being a punk. Like, go fight him one v-one him, one-v-one him.

And then they one-v-one each other in like a maze and Obi-Wan can't pull the trigger on, on Eval and let's another tell for sure. Another tell. And that's when Bain gets the job instead of Obi-Wan to be the leader, right? Save him. Bain does save him. It's good. It's like a, it's a rare, when do we ever see Bain saving people?

He's earned his respect. And he saved Bain like four times this episode. That's true, that's true. But yeah, he's about to fall into some fire and Bain does the grappling hook to save him. I think this is one of the things that doesn't work for me. It's just like, I don't think the box is cool. I just don't. Like, the reason I bring a portal is the entire thing looks like less characterful.

like aperture science sets where it's like it's all like um like cute like it's it's all cubes and uh like rectangles topped with like little geometric shapes that just like roll out and redeploy uh this is this is a game tutorial like the first test is how to crouch the second test is how to jump and the third test is uh you item and then Fortess is is targeting is like yeah and then like melee fights yeah have you all seen Cube the movie Cube from 1997 no have you seen the trailer for cube no all right oh okay okay y'all so y'all don't know that that's just is there a reference here this entire thing a reference this whole thing is just one big oh no here I'll link you

just the trailer to the movie cube it's a horror movie from 1997 in which people get locked into this cube, like down to the mosaic work on the walls and the color work and the way that it's like a bunch of people who have to try to like, I mean, it leans into do you trust the people you're with and all of that? But like all of the traps, all of the fire, all of the like crawling through little holes to get from place to place. It's all just cube. Like it's 100% just cube. The whole movie of Cube, by the way. It's absurd. Yeah, yeah, yeah uh-huh yeah the whole movie's just on youtube how it's even the same guy which guy are you saying is the same guy the the baldy here is the same as a bald guy in clodores

they are the same they're very similar they are very similar uh you know it's a little bit more like it's a little bit more fucked up because they're willing to like kill people in gruesome ways because it's a horror movie um but this is what this episode was missing right agree like it needed to be like these should have been yeah these should have been like way more difficult fucked up like these were very I feel like the the knowledge that obi won had to figure this out just within seconds of entering each like they just moved through them so quickly like there should have been when the serum thing happened somebody should have taken the serum first and died and then and then they were like okay well who

Who else is going to... You know, like, that's the set up. That's the horror movie version of it. But, yeah, I just think... They don't do that. They don't do that. These could have been cooler... It's called between horror and heist in a way that they can't really work out what they want to do.

Yeah. 100%. Um, I do have one more thing before we leave this episode. Yeah. Because I don't... I stumbled into something. You may have seen my face contort moments ago. I'm going to screen share, but I'm not going to screen share the thing that I'm actually looking at.

I'm just going to use this. screen share to hear audio. I was going to make sure really quick, can you hear, can you hear audio now? All right. That's funny. Yeah. Is that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I'm going to do two things. First, I'm going to read, I'm going to read how I found this. I went, I was on the Moralo Eval Wikipedia page. There's a quote here from Stephen Stanton who voiced Maraulovall. He says, like I said, Dave Filoni is one of those directors, and most good directors do this. They let the actor give you what they come there with, and then they start fine-tuning the performance if it's going awry. Morali Reval was much like that.

He's really this insane madman, but he's trying to contain it. That was the way I did it. If you were watch my body language while I was doing this character, my shoulders were scrunched up, my hands were all curled in. My body was contorting, which you have to do. You have to get into the character physically. Otherwise, it just doesn't play right. Then, there's a whole big long thing that kind of repeats a lot of that,

but from the third person where it's like, Stan enjoyed portraying Evol and focused on the unhinged and psychotic character. It was one of his favorite Star Wars performances, blah, blah, blah, blah. At the bottom of this behind-the-scenes section, it says.

Throughout 2012, Stanton served as a frequent guest on The Force Cast, where he voiced Eval in a recurring segment called, and I'm not going to read you what it's called, I'm just going to hit play on the first of these. Masterworks Theatre presents

Bedtime Stories with Moralo Evol. Hello, kiddies. This is your old friend Moralo Evol with another bedtime story. Well, this is one of my favorites. It's called Little Miss Muffet. Little Miss Muffet sat on her tuft, eating her curds and way. Along came a spider, and she ate him too. You have to admit it makes you hungry, doesn't it? God, where's my dinner? Well, until next time, kiddies.

Oh, my God. This is Moralo Evol saying, good night, and don't let the bedbugs bite. This has been bedtime stories with your host Maraolo Evolve and cell block 23-inch. This video Is that So many Is that actually The Morello of all voice?

Yeah that's him It feels off It feels off Yeah well He's doing it And do a podcast mic You know No post processing

This video is 30 minutes long He does six of these Including the things I don't I've never heard Why is it doing Nightmare before Christmas Oh Well

And Jim I Well you know him as Moroll of all we call him Uncle Moralo. I don't. But, you know, he's the kind of character. He just want to crawl up on his lap and hear a good story. No, no, he's not.

No. Well, actually, we have... Is this the number one? Star Wars podcast? The latest Uncle Malo bedtime story right here. I think it might be. And this is Christmas 2012 edition.

So let's everybody, everybody get together around the fire. 2012. All right? Everybody there. Get your egg dog. Uh-huh. Get your fuzzy slippers. and let's listen.

We're not going to listen to this whole one because it's long. Did they do this? Once a year ever. Masterworks Theater presents. No, I think they did it six times in one year. The night before Christmas with your host, Uncle Marallo. Greetings, younglings. Your old Uncle Marlowe is enjoying some quiet time on this very special evening.

Is your Christmas yet? Just Santa Claus come. Can we open our presents? Come down, Jubby. It's still the night before. Why is churned up yet? That's debatable. Why don't you all sit down?

Pour yourselves a hot cup of cinnamon, old spice, and I'll tell you the story of the night before Christmas. Well, hold on. R2D, joy, get over here. Uncle Moe's telling a story. Examinate. All right, we're ready. It was the night before Christmas.

When all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in hopes that St. Nicholas soon would be there. I hope this doesn't get twisted. Bring me a genuine Darth's mole lightshaber with motion-sensure action. Oh, you'll put your eye out. He's right. The children were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of sugar-plice. This isn't the voice.

He's lost the voice. And Ma in her kerchief and I in my cap had just settled down for a long winter's nap. I didn't know there was a Mrs. Moralo. Okay, I'm done. Okay, this is literally, I don't know if y'all have been to Disneyland in Christmas time and gone on the haunted mansion ride, but this is literally the V-O while you're going through because it's Nightmare Before Christmas themed. And that, it's like that, that is, the morale of all voice he's doing here is the voice.

And they talk about sugar plums and they do the night before Christmas whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this is why we don't get voice actors or, or Clone Wars people on the pod because we don't, we don't let them do bits where they tell bedtime stories. I was going to say instead of rebels, are we doing a starcast, listen to a long podcast after this? Maybe, honestly, because if they're getting voice actors doing bits, missing out. Anyway, yeah, he would read children's stories and nursery rhymes and he follows voice, often with humorously dark commentary or rewording.

This is the TikTok where somebody turns around to someone's like, hey, do you mind if I play some, like, you know, bedtime sounds before we go to sleep? And they're like, yeah, of course, of course. And they're like, okay, I'm just going to start playing morality. It's the Marlon ball Pass the ox cable Yeah

Uh huh Anyway we have one more episode to talk about The last thing The last thing I want to say about this one Very very briefly Is I think the most horrifying part of this whole The Box episode

Was in the fight between Obi-Wan and Moral Um Moral's face is like Super bloodied Yeah And it's really like It's freaky

It's like it's fucking up. And I appreciated that they did that. Yeah, it was a unique one 100%. I have a couple of other pieces of bad trivia. The character Kira Swan is a nod to Kira Knightley's Elizabeth Swan character from the Pires

in the Caribbean movies. Her accolade two-time winner of the Obsidian Sphere is of course a reference to the Black Pearl, the ship from that movie. And then is there anything else here worth saying? Yeah. Oh, that

That gas chamber was supposed to be water and not gas, but they didn't know how to do water yet. They couldn't figure out water was just too expensive, or they didn't. They hadn't solved water, is the quote. So, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. They do the whole season, the whole season

opener on water, but maybe it's different if the whole thing is underwater. Yeah, then you're not seeing air and water. You're just in water. Yeah. Wow. I do I want to give a shout out to one question asker on our Patreon

we had a question a while ago that was like isn't it weird that Obi-Wan can shoot so good on Concord Don when he hates guns and he sure does consider himself the marksman of Concord Don doesn't he? Wait, what is Concord Don? It's the, isn't it, it's the planet that they were on? It's like an offshoot of the Mandelaar planet. I think it's like a one of theirs and I think that's where

the Death Watch base was, yeah. Right, sure. Anyway, someone in the writer's room was also thought that was funny. That's very funny, yeah. Crisis on Dubu. Crisis on Nabu.

What? Okay, and this is the thing that keeps being like, what is happening in this arc of being like, how much of the Jedi, like, general, like, seat of power of the war here is involved in this issue and, like, very, very

concerned about the festival of light on Nabu going smoothly? It's like a C.W. show where it's like the big party has to, obviously, we can't postpone the big party. Yeah. It's wild that they commit to go. They're like, well, we didn't stop evil morale, but we're still going to slit Palpatine. Palpatine's not going to go do this. We know that he's going to hit, for sure.

We know it. We could just have him appear by holograms. No. Holograms exist. Holograms exist. They literally already had this whole thing with Padmae. They did this thing with Padmae. Yes.

Not only do holograms exist, but shadow holograms exist, whatever the actual name of those things were, the thing that the guy invented. Oh, yeah. The holographic disguise matrix matrix. exists. The Jedi should have gotten one of those, put a Jedi in one of them, and have him go as Palpatine. They can't have Mace Windew go in the Palpatine force thing that apparently about to like bounty hunters have access to, but the Jedi could not even consider. Okay, so to be fair, Sin Rich, the guy who gets the big nose guy last episode, invented that.

So maybe that's the thing that they say. That's like that's his little line when they introduce him. He's like the inventor of the holographic disguised matrix. Yeah, they took his shit. They were like, yeah, you have to give us five of those for the mission. But, uh... And then go to our funny little game. And then go to her cube. He invented the thing that the mission relied on, but they were still like, funny.

You're not on the mission. You got to go into the box. You're going to prove yourself. I already proved to myself. That's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up.

The people who end up going on the mission, the, the crew. crew ends up being Obi-Wan, Cadbane, Daron, the gas bag guy. Who else is, like, on the mission? Mar-A-M-A-M-O-O-W-A-V-L, and Embbo. And the Afrobatz. Oh, is she on this, too? Yeah, so she makes it, yes. Embo has, like, the hat that he can throw, and it makes, like, a cool noise. It makes, like, a springy, sordy, new-type-y sound.

It's good. I love that gas bag when they're starting to, like, infiltrate. Nabu and get into like the back warehouse rooms or whatever like he just goes like and scares he just scares people

yeah it's so funny and then Cadbane drops well hello there which that's an Obi-Wan reference that's an Obi-Wan reference I caught one of those finally and I was like I'll take it fine

since it's good one's all right that one's there's a little twist on it you know what I mean That's a reference to a little bit of lemon, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take it. I don't have much about the plan intro where everyone's standing around the hologram. It's just like... Well, especially because it all gets discarded for the most part.

Yeah. And I think this is, again, like, maybe one of the things that makes it less satisfying is the heist, the heist episode, the heist movie, the, like, almost satisfying ritual. in how it unfolds. And here it's just not constructed that way and because they're also doing a bit of like wheels within wheels, but it's in the format of we have 22 minutes to get all this across.

So it ends up pretty vague. I think, you know, question one is like, why, like, Duke who's leading this mission himself? Like, so why is, why do any of this if you're just going to, like, show up and handle it all personally? But obviously the real reason is he's got to make sure this entire,

red herring endeavor goes off. But yeah, it's, like, there's just not a lot of satisfaction of, like, seeing the plot laid out and then questioning how it's going to be foiled, because it's all very hand-wavy in terms of how it's going to go. They're each given an iPad that has, like, that will update with their mission as they go, and you don't really get to follow anybody else's stuff. And also, there aren't, it isn't like a big multi-step thing. They set it up and just like, okay, step one, you're going to do this.

Then step two, your iPad will tell you. And it's like, no, not really. The plan is, Obi-Wan stands up there with a gun, everybody else goes to the event, and they do a body swap. That's the whole plan. Yeah. They like set a bomb off or they blow up a thing. They blow up the ray shield by using the guy who can step through lasers to like reach his hand through the ray shield and like hit the blow it up button, I guess. Then why wouldn't he have just been auto on the team?

He should be on the team. Right. Like if that was a like when did they solidify this plan? because it feels like every person... I think after the box, right? Maybe. I mean, again, that only supports more my theory that this was just funny little TV time for Tuckoo and... Yeah, 100%.

But it's weird when it's like, why'd this get an episode, you know? And the plot is like, it's all... They're big like, man, we need the best bounty hunters in the galaxy to abduct this sectarian off a balcony. That's basically it. The big gazebo job is coming, gang. We need to get ready to hit that gazebo. Also, he wants to be kidnapped.

Yeah, he's like, oh, no. They don't know that. It's got to look good. But Duku knows that. Duku should have just hired whoever the fuck he wanted. Yeah. Duku should have hired a bunch of slubs. Paid them less.

I guess they don't get paid in the end anyway, right? Well, he wanted to witness the box. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, that was his own pleasure. He's got a... Palpat didn't even know about the box. Yeah, he's got a black card.

Yeah, exactly. With no supervision. No, I was just going to say, I guess Natalie's right because, like, it is a tutorial in that Duke who needed to be like, I need to know that this guy knows that he can reach through lasers. And I'm going to put him in the boss. So he can do that. Or maybe it was the thing that, that Obi-on said, where it's like 50% chance if you've

got the right blood type, so they're like, all right, let's see if this one's got the right blood test. Although they could have just done a blood test, I guess. He could have done a blood test. He's an alien species that if he has the right type of blood, he can take an injection that lets him breach through ray shields. It's very silly. 50-50 chance. There's a line early on in this when Palpatine arrives flanked by his normal people, like the big guy with the horns, and then Mace and Anakin, and Asoka is there. And he's like, I think the amount of security that's accompanied me is overkill, which is like, one, it's very funny to hear Palpatine say overkill, this very, like, colloquial English term. But also, it's like three Jedi.

You're the president of space, my guy. There's like no security. People are just in the background walking around in this scene going about their business. They don't even paying attention to you. There's no security here. Right now. Right now. Right now. It would be done. Also, just the weird thing, I am now curious that they're on attention to it twice here. the red-armored oh god of these is this the forerunner to Palpatine's red-cloaked personal guard Oh maybe that's what they are

I've been wondering what their deal is It's a bit underwhelming because we also saw them As prison cops Right In the pre-like I can't remember if the guys actually In the prison were wearing the red armor I know the guys who took custody of Of Obi-1 were in the red armor

No they were in the red armor in the prison too The ones who, like, came to evolve. Apparently, these are shock troopers. But, yeah, they also performed duties as bodyguards and Republican officials. You can't water down the mission like that. They're not going to, they're not going to be ready to roll on the big missions. Yeah, here we go. They were trained as elite shocktroopers specifically for deployment on the planet at Corrassant

and to provide security aboard Republic starships there as well as in a few other select core worlds the clone shocktroopers, so primarily a security police for a public government buildings and his prison guards. So it's literally the same group. So they're not, they're not like shocktroopers, like, elite, like, private soldiers. It's like, it's like Bortak in the United States or something where it's like, yeah. Though I do wonder, is there a sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need some shocktroopers for home, just in case some stuff happens.

So I bet they're really useful during Order 66. I bet they're real useful for like putting down rebellion very quickly. No, I mean, this is like customs border patrol is like we, of course we need a paramilitary force that's heavily armed. Like obviously we got, you know,

we need commandos. So yeah, I guess that's what they're sort of alluding to there. I think the other thing is, it's just obviously it's important. Like we go to Naboo because Nabu is one of the places we go. You know what I mean? And it's from there.

Right. Yeah. That's the thing. Why is it important? It's pretty. I like Theid a lot. I think all this stuff with Theid is really pretty. I think that it's funny that we get all this shit about the history of Nabu, and there's

like a total of three Gungans at this event in the background. There are more Namoidians from the Trade Federation in the middle of this event where the speech is being given than Gungens. There are zero Gungens at the actual speech. It's so funny to hear them talk about like the bright past of the bright future of Naboo after there used to be a plasma mining city or whatever. And, like, you didn't invite, you didn't invite Jar Jar to this? You didn't invite boss, whoever, Boss Leonie didn't get to come out to this?

Yeah, I thought they were like a united planet now. No, apparently not. Well, I mean, Nabu, I mean, the Gung-Gins did almost revolt, like, a few episodes ago. And rightfully so. Rightfully so. But maybe, maybe, I don't know, maybe the Nibu Queen. caught whiff of it and was like they just don't fuck with the festival of lights

that's on our holiday yeah yeah it's true there true true true that dude is here the dude with the beard from episode one which guy he has a name but no one knows no not of us know his name you know what I mean a gungan no no the human dude there's like a human dude who's like an attache to the queen oh right he has like the purple on you know I wrote his name Because I was like Who's this guy? He's in those

Sometimes you can see A Clone Wars design though And be like They design this off of a person In a movie They didn't design this whole hog Yes His name is C.O. Bibble

So feel free to Google C.O. Bibble at your own recal on your own recognizance So I think the next Like big sequence is the whole Like what's going on with the plot

Like Obi-1 calls in like on the DL about like I'm you know they got me up on the sniper's perch here I'll you know here's what the game is but again like I just I think the scene just doesn't have much dramatic tension with the whole like

he's trying to figure what's going on through the rifle scope and like we've seen like there's a bit of rear window there there's like it's trying to get you know try to see the horrible thing before it happens but again all of this is taking place in a location

the size of a post stamp Like, literally it is, oh, man, like, what are they going to do? The entire plot hinges on them being a few stairs down below the eye line of the people on the balcony. Like, it's just, it's very silly in terms of like... It's very playing a hitman level and being like, if I stand right here, no guards can see me. And I can, like, if I just jiggle my joystick, just right, I can reach the interact button without breaking the plane, you know, and activating the next thing or whatever. But they really left the shield generator, like, just on the side. Like, it looks like some little battery on the side of the, like, it unprotected.

That's video games, baby. That's like dishonored where it's like, don't leave the whale oil tank next to the security fence. I hope nobody can get to this. It is very funny, the degree to which is just like a big, a big, portable Jenny. Yes. Like, the most, you know, as long as this ray shield. up. He's safe as can be. Nothing can penetrate it.

It's a Dyson vacuum, basically. It's like a dirt devil. It's bright yellow, too. That's his weak spot. It's so funny. It could have thrown like a camo over it or something. I don't know. I just, I simply would have like, or a case, like a box around the box. I don't know.

We already had the box. That was last episode. The shot, the shot a little flipper, though, tentacling toward the, is very funny, though. that the entire, their entire plan to keep Palpatine safe is just undone by the fact that we just didn't think somebody could reach far. We just really didn't think someone's being able to just like sort of push through and waggle toward the switch. God. I mean, what if, what if, if they really wanted to do like an attack on Nabu, what if a ship just landed and threw bomb on? They would have, they would have probably busted that up, right? they would have gotten, like, there's anti-aircraft shit around Nabu.

They would have gotten shot down, presumably. Yeah, that's right. You got to be on the ground. You got to be on the ground. You got to get there. I did, I did, however, want to shout out, not shout out, but I found interesting during his speech. First of all, they make him, they make him activate his own fireworks. Palpatine has to hit the fireworks button after he delivers his speech.

But then the fireworks go up, and they're this, like, wild, multi-step thing of, like, big explosive some of it is literally like just regular fireworks but some of it shows like the history of Nabu over a period of time

and the thing that that is is I'm going to read these because I'm sure other people listening were kind of curious the fireworks the fireworks and holographic display were meant to describe the history of Naboo

images from left to right symbolize the crash of the Grismalt colony ship which is that symbol that keeps showing up that almost looks like a Florida Lee that's a colony ship on its side Quilon's discovery of the world a nomadic tribe venturing into the Gallo mountains

and then the second set is like them finding a farmland and the farmland being you know turned into a farm and a village and then the village turning into the feed so it's interesting to see the way that they conceptualize their own history here you know they do think about themselves as like

survivors of a colony ship crash that then colonized this place or like settled in this place after this crash 800 years ago or whatever, you know. They had it rough. They crashed landed into a land-a-lake's box, and only the heartiest survivors could have made it go of it in this river basin.

Where are the Gungans in the story? Who are Gungans? What's Gunga? I've never heard of it. By the way, I feel like throughout this, there's so many different characters here. They've used different sets. they haven't used before that like

facial models and the way they're lit is really inconsistent but I do think in the crowd shot here we do just hit rock bottom with the clothing texture

on some of these characters there is there is what I swear to God looks like a a nutcracker outfit the character like a character

just got to paint it on nutcracker outfit that he's wearing in the background yeah I think I saw that same person. It's some rough stuff in here.

Though I guess, you know, it does help. Why were they so vulnerable to hollow projected, like, outfits? Because this is what they're wearing to this. This is what they're wearing, yeah. Yeah, we should say that all of the bounty hunters have on, like, fake Senate guard uniforms, basically, the blue, the blue guards. Or they don't have those on. Because getting those would have been not cool enough,

so they have holographic projected versions of them. I didn't pick up the inventor of it was murdered in the box episode so that they don't have to deal with the ramifications of they created the deadliest stealth impersonation. Like this technology is like a grenade tossed into the Star Wars setting. Like if this exists, absolutely bonkers shit is possible you can literally get away with anything. Unless the guy who invented this masterpiece of Descartes.

guys just randomly eat shit before he can ever make device number six he do too much this is actually how they made the box the episode of the box they were like we know we want to use these holographic disguise matrices matrices for the final episode but what do we do because we can't have those exist what if we do the whole other episode where that guy just eats it he can't be the one who got shot for wearing a hat though like you got to do a whole episode about you got the whole episode yeah uh-huh oh it's when does you He gets got in the lightsabers. It's like a very uneventful getting.

I'd say they're all pretty uneventful. No one cares about those people. He's the first one with the sniper though, right? And he gets in that shot wrong. Oh, that's what it is. Is that what happens? And then he gets dropped into the fire. Damn, they burned that dude alive.

He invented the shit that they needed for this whole thing. Yeah, and they burned him to death? That's fucked up That's fucked up Don't invent stuff And tell people about it No Don't post it

No No invention says Natalie Oh no that's not him That's not him That's not him That's six tat The guy who's six tattoos I suspect

The guy who invented it Is the dies earlier than this Is the short king It's the short king With the big nose And the big face Sinrich Sinrich

name I keep thinking is the same as the Mission Impossible guy, Kitrich, which is different. But shout-outs to the first Mission Impossible movie slept on. I know they made like six more after that, so you'd think maybe that wasn't slept on, but it's actually deeply slept on. Yeah. I think this dude dies in the gas

because I don't see him throughout most of this movie. But no, everyone survives the gas. That's what they said. Does everybody survive the gas? Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Dugu's like, what the fuck, man? Like, everyone survived the first one. It's not very impressive. Like... Yeah, right.

He's like, well, not everyone's going to survive this. Oh, I believe he says, your box has not appeared to be as much of a challenge as we thought. Damn. Damn. Damn. Uh-huh.

He dies before room three. I don't see him in room three. I think he has a very uneventful death in the lightsaber room. Like, I think... The box gets him. Yeah. The snail man.

Oh, holy shit. What? Okay. Go back to the box. Everybody go to the box. Everybody go to the box. Everybody go to the box immediately. I'm going.

Are we on the box? Hold on. Give me a second. Holy shit. Okay, give me a time, Sam. We're going back to the game tape. We're going back to the game tape. You know.

Okay. I did. Okay. Go to 11. I would you go to 1114. Okay. All right. And then I want to go.

want you to play until 1117 and pause at 1117 okay what's happening in the background someone describe what you see in the background wait what that's embo lifting sin rich by the throat and holding him up it was an inside job it was an inside job he got choked out by embo I don't think he shows up after that shot. Is that him ragdolled on the floor in the... That's him ragdolled in the floor on the back. Oh, wait, is that him climbing again on the bottom weight? Maybe that's him climbing again.

But I did see Embo choke him. No, hold on. I don't see him again. No, I don't see him again. I think he got choked out. He didn't even die of the box. I mean, like, psychologically, in a sense, he died to the box because the box is what drove a wedge between Embo and Sinrich. Yeah, I don't see him again in this whole... Mabo was paid to kill him.

I cannot believe they hid that. This episode wasn't about this? You didn't get two box episodes where like the tensions were like, why do we even hear Obi-Wan talk in this episode at all if like we could have been doing this, right? Like who gives a shit about Obi-W-W-W-Kin-O-B. Yeah, I just want this as a standalone. He should run the box. Run it back.

Run it back. Box season two. Let's go. Where's the box of the director's cut? Like, come on. That's it. He fucking chokes him out. He doesn't show up again at all. That's wild. And they, like, hide it in the chaos of the moment. Like, it's not like, and this is, it's like immediately somebody runs past them and gets got by another light. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, that's also where the, somebody, wait, who does get stabbed there? Who's the person jumping at? Cad?

Let's see. Three people die on this stage. That's wild. The snail dies. Here's him. Oh, it's the, it's the, the, the Hondo guy. Oh, it's, it's, that's Kira Swan. The, yeah, yeah, yeah, the weekway pirate. Yeah, okay. Kira Swan.

Yeah. Oh, that's why they did it, because she's a weak way. She's a pirate. Yeah, she's a pirate. Yeah. Okay. I cannot believe. Wow.

What a cat. It's so funny. It's so, I'm so glad I went back to look. I can't believe you saw that. I can't believe. I was, my eyes, let me tell you. Yeah, I was zoomed in. I was breaking down the game tape.

I was trying to find, you know, details. I was scouting for next week when we're all going to go to the box. A lot of other patrons, they'll say, hey, give us money so that we can go to a premiere or whatever. Just don't do this bit because of all the YouTubers who were like, come and do squid game with us. Oh, you're right. Those people fucking suck. What if Mr. Beast got away into Clone Wars and did Clone Wars content? I would just destroy these box

Okay Congrats We should finish up The crisis that we're having On Naboo And internally And internally The

Tensical guy seems a little OPE, I got to say He Zaps the fuck out of Anakin Yeah, Anakin gets worked. Yeah, I forgot about that. Anagan just loses a one-we-one against a squid guy. Speaking of Squid Games, he just gets owned by the mushroom head gas bag, zaps him.

And that's after he got shot in the back by Obi-Wan and had to, like, do a crash landing because his jetpack got shot. So he was already, he should have been disoriented. And even with, oh, no, sorry, is it the other way around? He beats Anakin and then he tries to gas, he tries to jet pack away. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. The point is, this heist is kind of boring, and they swap a body.

They make it seem as if they're there. They do the hologram on one person to make them look like it's Palpatine, and then the real Palpatine gets swapped into the body of, or a hologram of the guard, right? Yeah. And then Acrobat's becomes Palpatine. And then punches Anakin in the face like four times, which is so funny. Yeah. And then they get away.

and they go out to like the rendezvous point and Duku isn't there and everyone's like where's the money it's Bain and Moral and where's Duku and then Anakin shows up or not Anakin sorry Obi-Wan shows up is Rocco Hardine and they fight a little bit it becomes clear that Rocco Hardine is you know wants his cut and wants to kill everybody else so to speak and then the Jedi show up and it becomes clear that the whole thing was a setup and they arrest Cadbean get out? How does Cadbane gets arrested? No, he doesn't get out. He gets arrested here.

Oh, yeah. It's only Duku that survives this. Because Duku wasn't here at all. Duku never showed. Yeah. He's, he's waiting. Yeah. And so everyone's like, job well done. Congratulations all around. The security measures are being lifted. Everyone's like, we nailed it. and

Annegan's going to hang out with the chancellor hanging back on Nebu and Obi-Wan before They're like Before we get the Anakin Obi-Wan

Breakdown first Right Where Where that's where Obi-Wan says I made this decision It was don't blame the council Blame me

It was my decision To keep the truth from you Do you notice How they're just walking in place During the scene Two The way they're animated Is they're walking

Oh yeah they're, oh, that's weird. I hate that. Wait, I'm looking. Look at, so go to like 15 minutes on the, on the dot. There's a shot that like sort of dollies past Palpatine and Mace Windew. And then the idea is they're supposed to be walking toward the camera and follow them as they walk over the spaceship. But I guess they just don't have enough set to, digital set to work with.

Oh, I hate that's weird. They just. It looks like they're walking the wrong way. on an airport conveyor about all the thing. Oh, that's rough. Yeah, anyway, Anakin gets very mad at

Obi-W-W-W-W-W-W-Ws like, I know I did some questionable things, but I did what I had to do, which is an Anakin line if I've ever heard one. And Anakin is like, you lie to me, how many other lies have I been told by the council? And how do you even know

that you have the whole truth? Which Obi-Wan listens to because he loves his brother. True. And also, this man is lying habitually to the Jedi Council. Yeah. This is, he's living a lie. He's not lying, he's just omitting information.

That's a lie. If someone out there, if any of you were secretly married and we were part of a monastic group that disallowed marriage, I would say you maybe are lying to me. Well, is that your business? Yes, we're part of the same monastic order about not having wives. It's the corneous monastic order in history. Don't get me wrong. Look, we all know we've got a princess stash somewhere. Like, that's just a fact.

But you can't marry her. You can't marry her. And you can, but you got to leave. And that's cool. do that why can't you is it what if you just commit like verbally like they're not to not being attached to your wife is it a law thing like you may as well be with the Jedi I think I think you're not allowed I think it's just like listen you know it's like we know Jedi be doing well it's like maybe Anakin can play the whole like it's like Emerald

Justice type thing or where fuck it is where it's like look I know this love looks like attachment, trust me. It's all I'm all good with it. I'm all like I'm Jedi righteous. God. This is the things like Mr. Conehead has like eight wives right? And he says it's not

because of attachment. I forget his name. What's his name? Big head. Don't tell me, don't tell me. Fucking, I always bring him up. Nope, I don't got it. I was going to say the wrong name. I got it. Do you want it? Yeah. It's Kiari Mundi. Yeah. I almost said Idi Amin.

And that's a different person. Yeah, very. Very different. Yeah, he gets it because his species is dying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if Anakin made the case? This is the thing, is Anakin should have brought Obi-Wan in on this. Because Obi-Wan and him could have crafted the argument.

And the argument is, do you know how I'm a little fucked up and twisted? That's because I have a secret wife that I haven't been able to love in the open. And she's going to bring me balance because I want to be able to share all that I am with another person in a way that actually. brings me to balance. I can be a prototype. I'm not saying change the laws for other Jedi. I'm saying, listen, I know the council loves to keep secrets. I'll keep it a secret

from everybody but you, but you need to know that I'm in love with this person. We can make it work. Let's give it a shot. It's a time of war. You're going to get rid of your best general? Right. That's exactly it. He has leverage right now. He's Anakin Skywalker. He's a great general. Now is the moment to try it.

That's true. Yeah, but that would be seeking balance within another person, and I don't think you can do that. No, because he's seeking balance among the force. Right now, he's torn between his love for all living things and his commitment to protecting them and his deep love for his wife. He can just, he, he has the power to renegotiate his rookie contract. I agree.

Like, he can walk into the GM's office and be like, I know you got that fifth year option. What I'm saying is, you don't. You don't have it, actually. Yeah. I'll walk. Yep. It's me and Padmay or it's nobody. I will miss the rest of this season.

And you know what? I won't be sad at all. Oh, my backs hurts a little bit. I have to sit. I can't play tonight. My back is just killing me. Just in them Ben Simmons fits. Just Anakin on the sideline, looking fly as hell playing zero games.

Oh my God. Now I'm imagining the Jedi Council as inside the NBA. Uh-huh. And basically 100% tracks. It's 100% tracks. A hundred percent tracks Is Mace Shack in this scenario? Yes

Yeah I think so No no actually Chuck is Abrasive enough and judgmental enough That I do actually We're like Mace is cool And Shack is cool But the morally

Pocoon is Shack Yes Yes Right Yeah Yeah Yeah I got there.

Yeah, go ahead. That's me yelling. Ah! Classic tweets. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame tweets. They should give the Jedi Twitter IMO. Anyway.

So Anakin, his final birth. on Obi-Wan, how do you know you even have the whole truth? It's one of those things that what Anakin is saying, it doesn't remotely lead to where Obi-Wan takes it, which is like, how do I know that I have the whole truth about this plot we

just foiled and not about the genetic counsel's relationship with me or the chancellor? So he goes and he investigates his sniper's nest and realizes that, yeah, they were onto him. This is not what he thought. And so the plot is still in

action, but it is too late to do anything about it, except by himself, because it's pop it's popping off. We cut to Anakin now turning to Palpatine for like guidance. Palpatine being like, oh, it must have been your plan to put Obi-1 under skies and he's like, oh. Palpatine's such a little fucking manipulator. It's so juicy. And then it's like, no, actually, I didn't They didn't tell me anything, actually, about it. And he's like, I thought the Jedi always worked as a team. Oh, that's hard to hear, Anakin. And then, of course, he walks him just into the dining room, the unlit dining room.

No lights are on in the palace. And Duku's already in the dining room with droids, easy access. We didn't have to even see how he got in because we know Palpatine just let him in the back door. And we get, again, we, they. stage it just like the Revenge of the Sith stuff where like Palpatine goes from being quote unquote a captive to being kind of just overlooking

this duel between the two of them and nobody's picking up the just evil horniness radiating off Palpatine like he is just like yeah and it is also again in the like

placing lots of bets I feel like the thing that you do see hit him here is Anakin might actually be the best long-term play here. It moves from, like, pocket option and, like, informant on, like, among the Jedi to, wait a second, hold on.

I might want to tap this guy as my apprentice, like, long-term. I fully think that this, my read on this truly is that the whole thing is about pushing Anakin over. There's all these little signal moments of, like, he gets the four uh duku uh force throws like a bunch of silverware at anigan it sticks in his arm to remind you that he has robot parts which of course is their big signal about him becoming vader uh he almost stabs duku or yeah ducu through the chair and like ducu has to hold him back from from being stabbed and that's the point at which we get that good close up of horny

palpatine just grinning with the with the droid standing next to him like an honor guard instead of like a prison guard. It's like it's gotta happen. Anakin is going to kill Duku here and that is going to be the moment that it all comes together and then and then Obi-Wan shows up

and like I love that as the sort of like spoiled you know, Obi-Wan taking Anikin's word the wrong way, you're right Rob but then showing up to stop this from happening Anakin literally has the thing of like reaching out his hand to choke

Duku to death at one point. Palpatine grinning from eye to eye over it and the other thing is like hey if the outcome is that Duke who kills Anakin then yeah he loses Anakin but you know that's still a win that's one more Jedi off the table and he's proven

himself that he can be his apprentice still but here's the thing I don't think like Palpatine doesn't know how it's going to play out because the thing is like Duke who does win the fight like he loves it he sees that he sees that Anakin's got the stuff he's the dark side of

Jedi. But Duku is still he's still the big dog here, right? He's still got those moves that like, Anakin has yet to develop. But I think this is the other thing. Duku doesn't seem to realize how close this game. That's exactly right. He's so arrogant at the end of this where he's like dissing Anakin like at the end. No, I think that was, I think that was strategic on Duku's part. I think he was pushing like pushing Anakin. Yeah, just being like, that

wasn't even a real fight, even though I think he knows that that was a pretty well played fight, but I think that's like fostering more negative feeling, fostering more, like, now Anakin's like, you know, feeling bad or whatever. I think that was...

But when you do you realize that that's like, unless he's casting about for another prentice, you know what I mean, to like beat his new massage? Like, because he has to know, like, that if he see, if he's being pushed to push Anakin toward the Siff.

Yeah, he knows. Palpatine is the guy who'd want, you know, Palpatine's the guy who'd want that relationship. God, I want to split where, because what he ends up saying to Obi-Wan is he, you know, he says that Obi-Wan had kind of, like, done well during all of this. And he kind of compliments Obi-Wan's play for the whole,

the whole arc. And I want the version of Star Wars, where I know I invented a new AU every time we talk, but where Palpatine, where Duku makes Obi-Wan fall, and he becomes Duku's apprentice, just as he was once Quagin's apprentice, because Quigone was Dukes' apprentice. And then Palpatine does get Anakin. And we got like a Sith civil war between Duku and Palpatine.

With Duku and Obi-Wan being the sort of like upright, you know, cultured beard havers. Oh, yeah. And Anakin and Palpatine being chaos agents. Yeah, uh-huh. I love that. The Sith cause needs you out there. You need to stop working on your monograph about this. Exactly.

I'd love to help you, Count, but I think I've almost explained how this race got so debased, and once peaceful people became ignoble savages. That's my line. I really need you to fight, Obi-Wi won. Well, if the Jedi make it to the... the stacks, my dear account, then rest assured, I will hold them to the end. We must protect our Sith knowledge. So that's that.

I want to give Duku just play of the game here, sorry. For when he does the behind-the-shoulder lightsaber block when Anakin jumps onto the... He's like going onto the ship ramp to get away and it looks cool. It's so fucking cool. It's wild. Yeah. So yeah, I like this. I like the end of this.

arc a lot in terms of setting the stage for what happens in the future. And I think it pulls, it recovers it for me. I, I still like this arc more than I think a lot of people do because this first two episodes are so strong. And like, even the box being goofy and like not make any sense at like a, we're doing a heist, you know, version. Well, now we've unearthed this fucking deep plot with the stringlations. So like, kudos to the box, I guess. Some, some animator must have been told, we have to get rid of one more person in this scene, figure out a fun way to make it happen and just roll with it it's so funny I think it was like fuck we can't have the maker of the thing exist so we need to find a place to kill him and they

just sneak it into the fucking midground of that little tidbit it's so funny magnificent so are we finishing season four next episode I think so I think so like it's possible Well, like, we're going to watch all four. Maybe we'll be like, these two are so dead. I don't think so. I think we're finishing the season next time. Hey, everybody. It's awesome from the future here to say that we were wrong about that.

We are not going to finish this season in the next episode. Instead, we are going to do the next two episodes, 85, 86, season 4, 19, and 20, massacre, and bounty next time. And then we are going to do the end of the season after that, Brothers and Revenge, and then the first episode of season five, revival. So we're going to do the next two in the next episode, the next three in the episode after that. You know, you can draw a line of the next four being adventurous arc, but then it ends up getting into a really tricky situation

where we would have to start season five with a five-parter or else break up another four-part arc. And season five is basically all big arcs. And so we wanted to try to keep those together. And so again, next episode is going to be Massacre and Bounty And then the one after that will be Brothers, Revenge, and Revival All right, back to the end of this episode

The end-ish of this episode anyway I'm excited for it I've seen one of these episodes because one of them has Dengar And I had to watch it as prep for what I wrote that story about Dengar Because I was like, well, what's Cam and Dengar at this point? A manoroo in there, huh? I don't think that that's... sadly, no.

I'm sorry, we don't get any manner. She's not, yeah, yeah, she would, they wouldn't have met yet. Oh, by the way, I just have a shout out with the whole, like, uh, Cadbane, like, coming to respect, uh, undercover Obi-Wan, uh, again, reminds me of, um, when Michael Stackpole and Timothy Zahn wrote a Star Wars novella about their two OCs, meeting, like, and becoming best friends on undercover mission without ever, Bros. What if Grand Admiral Thrawn went undercover as JodoCast, the renowned bounty hunter who's mostly renowned for biting Boba Fett style and being discount, discount Boba fat? And it makes Boba so mad. Canonically, this is why BobaFat hates JodotCast, is Jodokast is just running around wearing Mandalorian armor and being like, I'm an elite bounty hunter on that level.

And Boba Fett's like, you're a fucking cosplayer. But in this story, it is not Jodokast. It is Grand Admiral Thron, pretending to be a bounty hunter and working with everyone's favorite second-generation Rogue Squadron pilot, Coran Horn, star Michael Stackpole's Xbox series. That'd be great. And they're all like, we're both awesome characters. One of them is. it is nice that, it is nice that Stackpole and Zon both, like, they were both, they were both, like, S-tier characters who would, like, have a game moment. Yeah, I love that.

I still want more. I want, I want, people, I think some people were like, I can't wait for Austin to get to this, to this arc, because I previously said that I really wanted Obi-Wan and, and Obi-Wan and Cadban and forced to work together arc. And, like, that's not what this was, because he doesn't get to know it's Obi-Wan the whole time until the very end. Does he ever really learn it's Obi-Wan? Yeah, he does. He does. He does. Say, Kenobi or whatever. But I want, I still, now I need it more.

I need the two of them, like. Yeah, now you need two of them shipwreck. Shipwreck. It's a shipwreck art. They have the memories of being in the prison. They know that they can work together. Like, thank you, Alan. The midnight run.

100%. Yeah. Hands down. I want it off. What if he just shows up in the Obi-Wan show and they have to, they have to hang? That'd be great. I would do anything to see Pad Bain again. Like I

Feel like shit Damn, she's down bad Down catastrophic I love that man Catastrophic I love him I am a I am a What did I call it the other day

Hold on I wrote it down somewhere She's opening up her dubs folder It's just screenshots of Cadbane Oh, I said I posted something Somewhere Probably in a Discord And I said

And it was a picture of Cadvane And I was like repost If you're if you're a fellow Caddy Like a Caddy Like a Caddy I love it A Caddy

Sorry I had to post this Cadbean fan cam Yeah There might be spoilers in here But it's good I don't care I'll watch it It's him shooting to Toto!

No! It's so fucked up! Two phones down. But the sparkle effect is fantastic. He's so hot. Sparkles are killing me. It's so good. Yeah, I think that is his hat.

I love seeing him give instructions to bounty hunters. Yeah. Well... He is a leader. He is. It's true. note uh i'll link this in the in the show notes so i don't think we're going to get the midnight run of star wars where obi one and cadbane are on the run from assassins or something i don't

think we're going to get that but what patreon backers will get next week uh will be us discussing this this deep cover arc and a friend in need so if you like to hear that or just want to support the show you can do so at patreon dot com slash civilized uh Oh, and last week's Patreon, if you haven't checked yet, last week, we will have released the Patreon bonus of us watching Filoni and three other producers of the show, or three other people who work on the show, talking about the Umbara arc for like 25 minutes, plus the behind-the-scenes footage of the voice actress Ashley, what's her last name? X-Dene for Asoka, going behind the scenes and interviewing people at the studio where they make the show. And then also us reacting to Obi-Wan Kenobi. There's a video of us doing it. I mean, we're not in the video.

The show, not just the show. Abstractly. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, exactly. We do that enough on this podcast. 100%. So go watch that. That was a blast to record.

So enjoy that. Until next time, please rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice, especially Apple. We love them. Apple reviews. We're starting to get a little love back from Apple, so we'd love to keep that momentum model. Let's build this relationship. We got a tweet, Rob. Let's see. Let's see if we can get Apple a little bit dark side. Well, they're pretty dark-sighted, honestly, like real talk, like extremely dark-sided company as most large tech

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No, it wasn't. But also, you got to know that you're... Come on. You killed all those same people. You know. You know what you did. Yeah, but he doesn't know that. But you do. Sometimes a third party can say something extremely right about you. And you got to be like, they read me.

You got to. That's growing up. It's what Blinkwini 2 said. Twitter.com, V-C-V-Vo, for designing a good enough cover that we got on that Apple tweet, by the way. Yes, shout-outs. Absolutely. We were killing it, honestly. Like, you know, I'm not trying to throw anybody else under the bus.

But, yeah, Z-C-V-V-O, people don't know that they did our cover. I mean, it's in the show notes, but nobody read show notes. if you read show notes shout out to Jack to Keaton who does the music by the way not quite real on Twitter and band camp etc all right you know that theme song sounds like to be the theme song

to the Cadbane show it does it would didn't realize I didn't even realize Jack and I had but now it's like it's there but now you do Jack and I had a conversation about how much this should feel Clone Wars Troopsie

versus like Mandalorini Mandaloriany and and we did bring it back from Mandalorian a little bit from like the earliest sketches but I was like you know what this is so good let's keep that vibe here because there is going to be some frontiersy stuff there are some Wild Westy characters we're going to get to

Mandelorian eventually hopefully we'll see so kept some of that vibe all right well is that a podcast that's a podcast Bye Patreon. Patreon.com There we go Time.

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