A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 56: The Clovis Arc (Clone Wars 113-115)

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

Have there been better arcs of Clone Wars? Absolutely. Have there been arcs that more cleverly dissect the hypocrisy of the Jedi or Anakin's fall to the dark side? Undoubtedly. Are there better duels, dogfights, and tests of will? Of course. But has there ever been a Clone Wars arc as toxic as this one? Oh, no my friends, in that regard we have absolutely peaked. NEXT TIME: Episodes 116 - 118 ("The Disappeared, Part I," "The Disappeared, Part II," "The Lost One") Show Notes Major Deaths (RIP to a real one): Teckla Minnau Normal, Expected Deaths (Sad imo): Commander Thorn, Bec Lawise Additional Deaths (It is what it is): Rush Clovis Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Austin Walker Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)  

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zackney, joined by Aliaqampora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We are continuing our journey through season six of the Clone Wars, supported, as always by our listeners at patreon.com slash civilized. So remember way back in season two of the Clone Wars, The show introduced Rush Clovis as Padmay's ex-boyfriend from her early days as a political trainee at Senator Camp because there's a powerful youth movement in Galactic Governance. Who are also in charge of like drought and famine, like, regulations. We do get some details that make it sound more important than what we maybe thought it was.

This is no Model UN, okay? They were, they were legislating. but they were also still children but they were children yeah yeah yeah yeah but she was running a planet at age like 15 so you know everything's a little faster in Star Wars so the show toyed around with the idea of him as a source of jealousy for Anakin

and a threat to Padma's in Anakin's marriage the episode where he appears Senate Spy doesn't do a whole lot with this idea Clovis has revealed to be a traitor and he is left for dead like Claude Raines at the end of notorious facing the wrath of his co-conspirators as Padmay and Attican fly off and kick off the entire Ark on Geonosis.

He returns here, somewhat inexplicably. We're going to hand-wave quite a bit as to what happened between the Senate Spy and this. He returns here across the episode's old friend, Rise of Clovis, and Crisis at the heart. And once again... Rob pointed to his heart, just so people know. Padma's and Anakin's relationship is here.

seriously jeopardized, but the marital threats that emerged this time are much more serious than they were earlier in the series. In a word, the comelink transmission is coming from inside the house. So, yeah, Austin, you introduced this as this is Anakin's toxic arc. It is his toxic arc. I cannot believe. But was he wrong? Oh, wow. God.

And we're off. Anakin? The vibes from the stuff, like, come on. There was not, he did not have one win in this entire arc. No, I mean, Rush Clovis is guilty of nothing that Anakin is not about to be guilty of. Well, I mean, Rush, there was overstepping, yeah. There were a lot of touches. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Annikin's already guilty of those. That was attack of the clones. Oh, sure. That whole movie is him doing Rush Clovis shit until Padman is like, I guess I can't wait to die a thing she actually said in that movie. Oh, yes, he did say that. Like, Clovis is in some ways ahead of the curve, in other ways, just catching up to annex toxicity. Sure.

So. But I agree, Natalie. Sometimes people catch beatings that they got coming. Yeah, he should. Yes. Well, yes. But we have to get there. We have to get there.

I'm clipping nonstop. My new, my mixer cannot handle how excited we are. I cannot believe this is the first arc. that we are really doing post-Andor. That should be said. That should be stated. We're getting that Tim energy back. Tim is back.

Tim is here in a huge way. Russia. Second H at the end of rush. People should remember the last arc that we did. We pre-recorded that. That was recorded before Andor. And here we are post-Andor. And they could not have laid out a better red carpet for us to return with Anakin's most

toxic behavior with more insight into how money works, question mark, question mark, question mark in the galaxy, with a little Mon Mothema side eye at the end of the arc. I was embarrassed how stoked I was when I saw Mumbatha. I literally like

nudged M-Kan. I was like, that's my M-M-Modhah. There she is. You know, Mn-Mathma from Andor. Can we start by just reading? Okay, so episode this first one, I was going to do the summary for the arc.

Okay, you do the summary for the ark, but I'm going to then read the episode five literal starting text because it's important. But you read, give me your summary of the whole arc. So, yeah, in Broadstrokes, this episode, this trio episodes covers the collapse of the banking clan. It revives some classic Jewish caricatures.

And it features a successful... He straight up says not all Jews. He literally says not all Jews. He really did say that. And I don't know. Maybe Rush, I don't know. Oh, wait, are they called Munes? They're called Mewens.

So not all Munes. Anyway, so this centers on a successful conspiracy by Duku and Palpatine to place most of the banking capital in the galaxy under the direct control of Palpatine's chancellorship. So at the outset, Padme has arrived on the planet Scipio to negotiate further loans from the banking clan for the Republic War effort and finds that Clovis has resurfaced here as senior executive and negotiator for the banks. In private, he warns her that he has found evidence of corruption at that the banks may no longer be solvent, and he enlists her reluctant help to secure proof. They get the proof, but as Padman and Clovis work together,

Anakin cedes with jealousy and suspicion and does some, like, as your husband, I demand type stuff that goes over like a light balloon. That suspicion, we'll get there. it. We'll get there. The suspicion explodes into violence when he walks in on Padme and Clovis in what falsely appears to be an embrace. He proceeds to beat Clovis nearly to death. He cheats, though. He takes the L because he has to cheat to do it. You'll need to show me on the tape. His behavior horrifies Padme and also demonstrates how

poison their marriages by secrecy. As Clovis recovers, do you. Ducu gets a message to him with the final proof he needs of banking clan corruption. This elevates Clovis to be the new head of the banking clan's operations with their planet established as a kind of neutral zone between the Republican separatists, but in no time at all, the other shoe drops. Ducu betrays Clovis and makes it look like he has thrown the banking clan in entirely with the separatists, which triggers a republic invasion that places Palpatine in control of the banks and all their funds and leaves Clovis dead amidst. all the chaos as the fall guy. Literally. Literally. Literally, he's fall guy.

He falls into the Swiss Alps. He guy that fall. Yeah. I mean, I should say that really quick. They are trying to make, they're like desperate to make the Mune not be Jewish. And so they've now just made it space Switzerland where it's just like snowy mountains and everything's clockwork. And like, that's like they're trying to ground it somewhere else. also they made them even shorter

I don't know if anybody else picked up on this but this really truly happened they used to be giant they used to be big and they shrunk them down in this arc they're all the whole species is shorter now why why

I don't know I don't know I don't there must have been some like modeling something I don't know it says okay it says when Nick's card first appeared in heroes on both sides in season 3 his character model was much much taller 2.46 meters tall

he was scaled down in this episode to better interact with more average-sized humans. That's what I figured. Can't have them stooping over humans and maybe rubbing their hands together. Eight feet was probably a bit much in their original debut. Where do we start?

Hit me with that crawl. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The opening narration is wild. All right. As the war between the Republic and the separatists intensifies. Hang on, can you give me a little more of the narrator? As the war between the Republic and the separatists

intensifies. Many are driven from their home planets, and it is up to Senator Amadala to secure aid for them, which already why. Like only her in the whole fucking galaxy? 100%. All eyes turn to the banking clan in the planet

Scipio, which is a funny name for a planet. In an effort to remain independent from the Republic and the separatists, all operations are divided, and money transactions are performed in a neutral zone surrounding the main vault. For operations to continue, there must be no war on Scipio.

However, worry about the stability of the banking clan is brewing within the Republic as the wellspring of money may be in jeopardy, the wellspring of money. So again, Scipio is the planet where the banks are. Scipio is not the name of that planet. It's Scipio. They named it. Why did they? I don't know.

I don't know. I think there's a pun I'm missing. I don't know. It's got to be something. Well, there's the classical association. with the Romans. Sure, I guess, but that's not really what they're doing here. Right?

Anyway, there's a, there's a, basically there's a place you're allowed to go that's neutral territory and you do your money withdrawal there. It is literally like the, the area, the physical area around the giant main vault on the planet, which is just like, it's, it's, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So I think that it is already coming off that that crawl, I was like, oh, the money in the galaxy is literally here. They are on the gold standard or something.

Credits exist physically. They exist in these vaults on one planet. How has no one robbed these? Let's go. Skeen voice. Send Andor to fucking Skipio and he'll get the job done. When we saw those vaults, all I could think is, like, how our boy would have reacted to be gotten there. Yeah.

Oh, we get some subterfuge stuff happened here. It doesn't go well. It's also like a bank lobby because it's like there are like bank, like the, the Grand Council, whatever they're called, the Corps Five. The Core Five. Yeah. Like, it looks like they're like bank tellers behind their little private booths. And they have a giant screen. like showing their faces behind in their little booths.

And they have just like computers in front of them with just beep-e-d-be-beep, just like stock, I don't know, stuff. They're walled in there, like, gas station attendance in like a bad neighborhood. Yes. Where it's like this is the heart, this is the heart of Switzerland, space Switzerland. And also they're like pushing Lucy's through the little slot to you.

with like one hand. Exactly. There's another character who shows up right away who he did not mention. Embo? No, okay, before Embo even shows up. Teckla Manow is here.

Oh, is that the brain guy? Oh, no, Teclan. It's the woman who helped Padme realize the poverty exists on Corazon. And she has one last job to do for us. Padme is going to get this woman killed. for nothing.

For nothing. For no reason. So, yeah, you've set this up pretty well, right? Like Padmei is here. She's like, I want access to, I need to do banking. I need money. And then Rush Clovis comes in. She's like, never mind, not doing it with, well, this guy's here.

Fuck off. I'm going back to my quarters. And she and Tecla are hanging out in their quarters when guess who comes to talk via hover car? He just drives up to the balcony. and climbs out his hover car into our apartment? What is happening? Why is this happening all the time? Pretty poor security.

I got to say, across the board, people are just driving up to balconies. It keeps happening. If you think about the repulsor lift negates a lot of like architectural defensive like properties. Like you can be like, oh, you'll be in the safest. You mean the penthouse tower. Yeah, but like anybody can just like drive.

You try up to the window of my bedroom. But they don't even, oh, and we're going to get to open window shit later because there is some terrible infosec in the next episode also. But, yeah, he hops out the car, comes inside, gets a gun pointed at him. Padman has snuck a gun into the central bank. I'm obsessed with that gun, by the way. It looks so cool. It looks like a, like a candlelighter.

It's like really thin. Yeah, I want to something like electric toothbrush vibes. Totally. I want to say it's similar to the gun she had in Attack of the Clones which I'm going to search for Attack of the Clones gun

and look and that's just not going to It's similar. It's not the same, but it's similar. She upgraded it since. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She definitely added some new parts. You know, she unlocked some perks and gave it a little upgrade.

And I guess he kind of he convinces her to come with him so he can explain better what's really going on. Yeah, to his house. his private quarter if you wouldn't mind just coming with me to my private

house in the mountains I can better explain it's not safe here obviously even though I can just drive up to your fucking balcony if you've ever seen Honor Majesty's Secret Service like literally he's living in Blofeld's house

which is like the mountain layer of the villain of that movie a major Bond villain writ large Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, he has bond. There's a lot of bond happening here in some ways.

All the machinations feel like you could do a James Bond movie about this exact thing. Well, right down the fact that, like, Embo, like, there's a staged assassination that, like, to sell the story that there's, like, a secret she needs to get to the bottom of. Embo is there pointedly missing, right? Yeah. Yeah. the fire until like we it actually i like how they handle this we see them line up he lines up the shot and then padmay like shoves him and it like it would have spoiled the shot but the shot doesn't come yeah they're still again and then the fire comes in and embo's whiffing we've

known he's been like posted up and waiting and so it's like and we know he's embo we've embo is embo doesn't miss you know what i mean yeah exactly embo don't miss we know he could make If he were serious, that hat would just come flying through the window and, like, kill the house. Just to capitate everyone in the room. Exactly. That would be sick. That would actually be sick. A thing that we should not miss here also is that while trying to pitch Padmay on, like, come with me, I have proof about corruption.

Rush Clovis does a little close-up magic trick with a credit. He moves it from one hand to another and then it disappears and he shows he doesn't have anything up his sleeves. It's so funny. He's exactly that sort of dude to go on. onto YouTube and like look this shit up and learn how to do it. This is what's happening in the Republican, in the banking clan right now, Padmei.

They're doing funny magic tricks with all the credits. I need your help. It's so funny. Yeah, so he explains the money's disappearing. The money's going away. All their money's in the vault, but the vault's empty.

And so basically like the only way to prove it, they're going to a little heist, so at his chalet, he has built a little 3D model with little, it's not quite a T-Pose, but it is just like a 3-D stationary model of Padme. It's one of the hardest I've ever laughed in an episode of Clone Wars thus far. I could not, the animation is... When she does a little duck, when she doesn't look, like, duck put the thing in, it's so... Just her turning around all the corners was...

just killing me. It was destroying me. This is what video game should be like in Star Wars. They should all look like this. I agree. I see more. Like, I, is there a deleted scene of him being like,

Hey, Padmay, welcome to my house? Could I just scan your body real quick? He's got that. This is why Anakin's so mad. Like, it's like, like, it's so much grist for the middle. Like, you get, like, Palpatine would just be like, oh, I'm afraid he still has her nudes, my brain. They're on his camera roll right now.

I mean, this is one of those great Palpatine is pushing the action figures together and see, just laughing the whole time to see. You guys should work together. Yeah, it's so fucked up. It's so fucked up. I mean, like, this is the thing is he's already thought about this by the time the episode starts. That's why Padmae is here, because he knows Rush Clovis is here, and that's going to be the hook. And it's like, again, he is in the middle of a master stroke to deliver all. all the banking capital in the galaxy under his control.

Yeah. And he's also like, time to stir up some family drama. Yeah, and I can have a little fun for me, too. This is Palpatine's Barbie Dreamhouse. Like, he is just moving everyone. He has his own scans of everyone, and he's just like, watch it. He's doing his own little games. He's playing the Sims, you know?

Yes. So the thing that has to happen is she's going in to see. the money in the vault to confirm that it's there officially. While that happened, they're going to, like, trick with it. Because they're basically robbing Peter to pay Paul, right? They're taking money that's coming in from the separatists and sliding it into the Republic account when the Republic is like, well, what's our balance? And they're like, ah, there it is.

You have all the money, but you don't really have all the money. And crucially, the separatists are not paying interest rates currently. So there are high interest rates on separatist loans, which they are just not paying um correct which that seems like a good strategy yeah i mean just don't pay him just don't pay them meanwhile teclimanow who again lives on corosant can't afford water has can't can't afford a bath right maybe padmay's fixed that by now but it sounds you know i have my doubts has to go deliver like an emp bomb has to go do terrorism has to go do something she would get locked the fuck up for if she'd survived but she doesn't instead she gets got by

embo she gets snifed by embo for some reason this was so well i think it's well no to yeah to get the evidence that there is that there's that there's uh uh spymanship what is it espionage espionage is happening spymanship she's found at the blast site yeah but it does like It, maybe it's, like, it makes me so angry at Padmae that, like, this woman is, like, her maid slash, like, like, like, personal, like, like, like, body man in, in some ways. Like, it is, like, this is a, this is a woman who does this is a hair. This is the most real shit we've ever seen her ask to do, right? She's a lady's made. She does, she attends to.

She's a lady, yeah, like, yes, exactly. Right? She attends to fashion. She attends to makeup. She helps her fix her hair. Which great job, by the way, on this episode. Padme's makeup and hair and outfit. We got that with the dress in the next episode.

It's really well done. Yeah. Tecla, like, Padme discovered that Tecla was living in, like, ruins. And then blew up that spot in a speech was, like, my fellow senators, I have just discovered that our citizens are. of the most pathetic, benighted, impoverished people you could ever imagine, except you can't imagine because it's so fucking bleak. And I know this because see that woman up there, her shit's fucked up. That's my main tequila. Do you think, I don't know how we didn't think about this,

do you think Cyril Karn gets to have baths ever? He does now because the empire fixed that. Oh, right, the empire fixes it. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it came at the cost of sunlight. That was the trade-off that got made. We're going to build like 60 more infrastructure levels on top of your, like, family home. But you will have running water and enough money to buy milk and a nutritionally complete cocoa pops. It's called the Tecla package in honor. In honor. In memorial.

After all this, yeah, Padma is just like, Tecla is my new, like, spy and co-conspirator. And remember, Padman has a history of this, but in the past, at least it was implied that, like, her body double was like, they were sort of raised in tandem and one was going to be, like, the bodyguard training was, it was, the deal was clear, lay down your life for this person. Yes. If you're, if you're a body double for someone, you're there to take a shot. This woman signed up to cut hair and do makeup. And now it's like. I need you to walk this bomb into the central vault of this. And it's a scary-ass vault, by the way. It's like Matrix shit crackling with electricity.

And Embo's going to kill you. And I'm like, I want to know what she is paid now. I want to know what are the terms of this. Not enough. I'm not taking care of. Yeah. Well, no, because she was a traitor. Right, exactly.

She's going to be, she's going to be like, well, sorry. Her whole family is going to go down in shame, in shame and infamy. This is the stuff that radicalized Ed Harris on the Rock. I feel like we forgot to mention that Padmey is making calls to Palpatine as this is happening. With every step of the way, Palpatine, I mean, Padme is calling up Palpatine being like, hey, so things are really weird here. Rush Clovis is here. He says like something weird's happening. And Palpatine's like, yeah, yeah, go to his house.

Go to his house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so, like, he gets the updates on his, on his, on his, on his Sims. Like, he's getting the fucking notifications are popping off. And Tecla doesn't even stay for the whole, like, strategy meeting. At one point, she's like, I'm going to bed. Like, I don't know what the point of that was. That was just such a, yeah, I wonder if there had been another, like, you know,

Clovis and Padme scene where they're, like, alone and starting to, like, reconnect and they didn't really go that direction but there was like a holdover of tecla needing to remove herself from the scene yeah that that probably makes sense you know so the heist like they they get in they get some of the information uh but the heist ends up going bad padmay is arrested tecla's dead aniken shows up to bail her out and the minute he hears that clovis is involved bro it's not even that it's not It's even before that. Allie, do you have written out what he says?

When he walks in, he says, I guess I'm not useful for only fighting wars after all, which you know is just him, like, bringing up an argument. Carrying another fight. Yeah, 100%. She says, yeah, she says, Annie, I'm so glad to see you, and that's his response. She says, I'm so glad to see you. And he's like, no. How long have I been here? He says a couple days.

Like, it's so bad. She doesn't know how long she's been in prison. and her husband comes to bail her out and he's like I guess I have uses huh what was the conversation like four days ago I gotta know because it's I don't know maybe they haven't been spending enough you know quality time together I'm just saying there is a difference between passive time passive quality time and intentional quality time and you can be living in the same he knows her girl got killed But you can be living in the same house And you aren't spending that intentional You gotta bracket that shit When When your girl is in prison

And you were bailing her out And her girl got got got You gotta put a bracket on your shit for a week She gets a week She gets a week to do whatever she needs to do To get her shit straight And then you can talk about Oh I guess I was

I guess I had some use after all And you can even spin it But he doesn't do it like that He comes in like he wants to win the argument from last week. Okay, hold on. What of that argument was about? I think I should go with you. He was like, like, what if the argument was?

But he shouldn't go with her. He was suspicious about the banking clan, like, I should, I should go and I should, like, help, like, I should be there to make sure I was on the up and up. But he shouldn't be there. His job is not to go do this shit. He has to, he is a general. He has to go to do. I don't know. There's a lot of work involved in this mission, dude.

How many clones died if he would have done that because they had to go do whatever? I mean, he probably would have gotten. them killed anyway. So what fuck am I talking about? That's true. So, but she can't just be another clone cadet for him. Do you know what I mean? Like, she can't just leash herself to Anakin and only move when he moves and bring him

around as her bodyguard. Like, she can't work her life like that. No, she's got the whole galaxy's famine and tragedy to take care of. So that's a lot of flying. She's got to be doing. A lot of planet visiting. it wouldn't work out. Then Clovis comes up.

It was a little petty. I'll give it to you. It was a little petty to walk in like that. I'll give it to you. So they need to go find Clovis because he still, Allie, do you have something? I do want to say that she calls him Annie in front of the two Mungards. And like, I really want to know what the like Star Wars, um, do moi is in terms of like, I saw a senator and a Jedi to.

today. Uh-huh. Oh, yes, yes, yes. For sure. Oh, my God. I want to see that. Again, we'll get there. Next episode we'll get there.

I'm going to hold my time. Clovis has the stuff. They need to go figure out where he's gotten himself to. So they go to the chalet. And he's been hiding there. And, oh, wait, no, no, no, no, sorry. I have to go back to this specific thing. I looked at my notes, and you shouldn't let me look at my notes.

when the Clovis thing comes up and she tries to make the argument of like we have to go deal with Clovis for the Republic I know I know something's wrong with the banks for real we have to go deal with him and Anakin is like

why is it that when Clovis is around your excuses that you're doing it for the Republic and she says Anakin please and he says you know maybe I'll just leave you here bro okay that was where I was He's like, okay, Anakin, I feel like we should...

Even the way he's like, you've already been released into my custody, you better come with me before I change my mind. It's really bad. It's so bad. It's pretty bad, yeah. It's bad. This is what happens when we're married to a cop. This is exactly it.

It's like you're at the diner and the cop is there with his wife or girlfriend and you hear him talking like that and you're like, bro, you shouldn't say that shit anywhere. But I'm having coffee three feet away from you And you were just out here like this This is bad We gotta get you out of this It's not good She needs to leave him leave him

And I will take him and I will fix him But oh I see Yeah So But she is able to bring up Clovis as they're walking out And Anakin has now calmed down a bit And decides that yes There is some investigating that needs to

be done. We do need to retrieve the files that Padmae and Clovis have worked so hard to get. So, time to go retrieve them. Not as hard as Tecla. No, Tecla worked harder. So once again, yeah, it's a lot of bickering as they pick up Clovis. And now, crucially, so Embo is there. He launches an attack. And the way they got there was these special speeders. that are on this planet that look a lot like bobsleds and this is about to be relevant

because they make an escape to their like to their like repulsar craft and embo basically disables the flight engine and they go into bobsled team mode it's awesome and they have an entire so on the one hand so they're over there in cool runnings embo goes into national lampoon Christmas vacation, the part where they wax up the, uh, the sleds with the special stuff that Clark's company makes. Uh, and like, he uses his hat as a sled to give chase through the, through the, through the, through the little, like, the ice tunnels, uh, that exist on this planet. And so, like, it's a, it's a funny little chase, like, a little bit of sick video game sequence. Yeah. Oh, no, we have an encounter before, before that, before that occurs,

between Anakin and Rush Clovis himself at the house. Where Anakin, Aniken calls Clovis. Okay, first of all, Padme is the least discreet person on the planet. When Clovis goes to hug her, she stops him and immediately looks at it. Like, she's giving the whole game away. Like, it's all up. She looks over at Anakin and then looks back at Clovis like, Come on.

You can't hug me in front of him. Like, okay, weird. And then Anakin's like, hey, lover boy, where's the disc? It's a lot. But the thing that I was going to bring up is how does Padmae just walk away from Skipio with an espionage charge and just leaves? Jedi with a spaceship. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Jedi just take people, go wherever they want. Super police. Right. Right. Right. Right. Of course. Yes. I wonder also if it's, I do wonder if it's because Teclimanau's body was found and she's dead. And so it's like, oh yeah, she was sabotage. She was some sort of saboteur, but that doesn't, there's nothing we can charge you with. Because they don't know that she got that data, right? Right. Right. So once again, Tecklema now, the hardest worker in the game. It's true. Shout out to her. There's, there's a, there's a snowboarding, Enbo snowboards on the hat, it's fun. There's a cool dog, space dog.

Oh, dog rolls. Love dog. Yeah, dog rolls. And R2 saves everyone as usual. Yay. And there's a new ship. I feel like Anakin has not had this ship before. I was wondering that, too.

It's really cool. It goes from being like a horizontal ship to a vertical ship, and it's very neat. I think I have this in no man's sky It's like it transforms Did he upgrade after not being able to come through For Obi-Wan with the Sateen thing This is what I'm thinking a little bit

I think his ship was destroyed In that right? No I think Was it Did Obi-Wan take that ship? Yeah He took like a Like a

Like not his main ship It wasn't the Twilight Maybe it was the Twilight I feel like the Twilight Got destroyed Either in that or when when Mall and

Savage It was It was It was It was It was Uh Obewan used it

To go to Mandelor During the death watch And Mall stuff It gets shot down there If that's where That's the last time we see it Ripped to the Twilight

Cool ship IMO Um While I was on this page And it saw something new and very weird, more Tecla Menal slander happening here. What?

According to the official databank, Padma Adama Dalla's handmaid and survives the Clone Wars and goes on to marry a writer while serving as handmaid

maiden to Queen Kailantah of Nabu. However, an old friend ignored this previous continuity and depicted Manal's death on Scipio. They went out of their way to take this woman's

happy ever after her way. That's so funny. fucked up. It's so fucked up. Can you imagine? Why not just give her a different hand? Let her live. She was supposed to be the housekeeper in love actually. Yes. And instead they made her the woman and the spy who came in from the cold. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yep. Dead for very little. Um, that's basically this episode. Yeah. That's basically it. So, yeah. Um, you know, the next one, so it's interesting here, how clued in the clan leadership is to the fact that they are screwed. Like they know their books are rotten.

They know that like they suspect bad information made its escape with Anakin and Padmay and Clovis and that like there's going to be like there's going to be an investigation of their books. But crucially what's this dude's name?

It's like they're all up. Nick's card? Yeah. Nick's card He's the only guy that's named There must be him But he's actually now

He's fully in league With like Sidiya's He is He actually is part of the plot Within the plot To ensure that all this comes out Well that's the thing I mean one of the lines

From this episode That I think really stuck with me Was when Rush is trying to convince Padme That there is something going on There's not really any convincing that needs to be done. Padme says to Rush, I've exposed them before, no one

cares. And then I can't remember if it's Rush or Padmae that says, like, truth is not on the battlefield. I think it's Rush, and that's why he's like, we can get hard evidence, we can download the fucking data or whatever. But, like, it is no secret

that the Banking Clan is doing weirdo shit with money. Like that seems like it's pretty much out in the open. The banking clan has been the subject of Senate debate before, as we've seen. So it's just like, it's kind of ridiculous that there's all this, I don't know, like hand, like ringing, like, ah, it's just, it's, it's, I don't know. I think what's kind of funny here. Here's actually, here's something I kind of do like is that what's so funny.

Here is the end of the day. Rush Clovis is enormously vain and self-promoting, but we actually discover in this episode, he does believe in something. He believes the banks are a good institution. Yeah. And they should be impartial and run responsibly. And it should be him.

Like, if they can't do it, he will help. Sometimes a galactic power needs more money so that they can print more people and then send them to die in a war. And they don't have the capital up front. There needs to be an institution that can work as a backstop for that. They're good for it.

It's the Galactic Republic. They're going to make that money back. He gives the Paul Bettany speech from Margincall to 3PO as they drive across for his sons. Yes. But they want their clones. They want their clones right now. And so who makes it happen? We do.

We do. Yeah. But the thing here is that, like, Clovet, like, what's funny is, is having to get into, like, that post. like 1970s, 80s cynicism about like you can expose the truth

but what you can't make people do is care and so she is starting to she is coming around to this notion of like we've exposed lots of people the trade federation has opposed like a dozen times

and like nothing changes Clovis is like this will change something like this is such a scandal at the heart of the banking clan the banking clan itself will be forced to take action and like

correct what's what's happening here and so like here's the other funny thing and this gets very on the nose at the end so when the series starts it's entirely this like some degree of this reflection of like war on terror era political rot now it's like this episode comes out like 2014 right so Obama's like just been reelected

but he's running effectively against like Bain Capitals you know Mitt Romney and all this but like here is becoming a bit more aware of the fact that like okay actually like the financial system is equally like a source of like huge political rot that like now in some ways

the crisis that is looming in the background of this is like a reaction to the global economic crisis and like the war on terror has receded a little bit and now this arc is all about like foundational institutions also being rotted and effectively in their rot kind of capturing the government in some ways.

Yeah, I mean, that ends up being, it gets messy. The metaphor breaks apart because, as always, Palpatine is just a little chaos gremlin who is like more hands-on than even our most Machiavellian rulers. The other thing here, the other thing here that's worth, I think, mentioning with regards to Padmae cynicism is that she's living a lie. She not only sees the world now and says, ah, it's all lies, and you can't really put the light to it. Nothing changes.

She feels it because, like, she has now stepped into what, past the honeymoon period of her little escapade with her husband. Never has it been more clear that she is married to Anakin Skywalker, that they aren't having a fling, that they aren't, you know, in a relationship. relationship, that they are husband and wife, and that they are constantly in a state of, you know, deceiving, deception. Yeah, exactly. And so why wouldn't the world work in that way? And I think it's, you know, in that metaphor, it's less that she thinks there will always be another deception. You might get closer, but there'll always be another layer. There's always going to be

another lie and there are some lies that people will never allow to to be proven lies in public because she knows this personally because she lives as you know supposedly a guardian of justice and equality in the republic and with someone who is supposed to be a guardian of justice right also just in the arc of the show you know we had the entire arc of how quickly everyone turned on like on snips like it's drop of a dime where it's like, oh, you've been implicated in all this. So we're just like, everyone turns against. She's hunted by people that she was like on adventures with for like four seasons.

And like, they were sad about it. Rex was like, I don't think she would be involved in this. But, you know, you know, that shit hangs over this. Asoka's name does not come up here, but you cannot, you can totally do a reading of both Padme's, you know, perspective on the world and Anakin's again I don't know if you all remember this because we

recorded this so long ago but in last episode I mentioned that Anakin's voice basically has dropped an octave and he's just always in a shittier mood constantly and it's so hard for me to read that as being Asoka tied to Asoka's absence and to his failure to both

protect Asoka and then to convince her to stay at the end like those are all his anxieties and here they are again Here's another woman in his life who's about to leave him, right? Because she's going to die or because she has decided that her life would be better absent him. Well, I mean, the, you know, we're a little ahead of where this, like, big encounter happens. But her main point is that the foundation of their relationship is built on deception.

Like the essential nature of their relationship is lies in secret. and so there was something fundamentally rotted about their relationship and it's the same with Asoka there was no going there was no getting over what Asoka experienced

Assoca experienced the true rot of the Jedi order and of the Republic you know through the trial and all of that so there was his mother too in a way right like again like his mother he went to the Jedi and said my mom

is going to die. I have bad feelings about this. And they said, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. It's fine. You guys, it's a bad dream. And, like, certainly we know

the layers of the tragedy would happen to fives, because fives, exposes the truth, like two or three times over the course of that arc. The fucking Jedi master on Camino,

like, is clued in on all this and buys the most, like, transparent, like, oh, no, that chip was always supposed to be there. Don't even worry about it. And she was like,

yeah, that makes sense. I'm not a clone doctor, so sure. The chip was always supposed to be there. That's the thing that's fucked up. But then, you know, at the end of that, like, you know, with Fives, you had the thing where, like, you can tell the truth, but the truth will sound so out there that nobody will believe you. They will just assume we've lost your mind. And, you know, and Anakin is there at the denouement of that. Like, Fives is one of his, like, you know, top troopers.

And at the end of that, all he and Rex can do. to stand there while, like, the clone SWAT team and the Red Armour, like, uh, kills five. Yeah, that just happened, right? So, he's in a place. I get this. Like, I'm not, I get it. That's where his emotional, this is why he is being so possessive, which he again does at the end of this scene, to get us back on track to where, to where they're all in Palpatine's, like, office,

which is a very funny collection of people. bail is like, no, we're not going to work with Clovis. It's Clovis. Bro, he did this already once. We were trying to work with him. And he was making clone, he was making droid factories. We can't just work with this dude again. Clovis was so bad before.

Like, that's the other thing about this. Like, the fact that Padme is like, I can trust him again. Like, he literally was manufacturing fucking massive amounts. of walking weapons for the fucking separatists, bro. Like, yeah, uh-huh. What if I told you that originally, this whole arc was supposed to just come immediately after Senate Spy. And then they later decided to, or they decided to put Senate Spy at the top of the Geocean Ark instead of this. And so they just saved these and came to these later.

But originally, the previous episode to this was supposed to be all that Senate Spy stuff. There wasn't supposed to be this big break between them. Really? I almost would have preferred the ridiculousness of the whiplash of that versus Padme, apparently taking, you know, I don't even know how much time has lapsed between, you know. A couple years, a few years maybe. I guess so. Like, Rush and, Rush and Padme definitely feel older in this. They do.

They feel like. Rush has some grays, you know what I mean? Yeah. But, like, Rush has aged like 10 years and Padmay has aged like three. That's because Tecklemanal is good at her job. Yeah, I guess being a banking guy is stressful I guess Yeah, true

True Anyway, again I just want to note again The people who are in Palpatine's office For this meeting Mace Windu Kiatimundi Plokun is there

Clovis is there Anakin is there Padmae is there Yoda is in there I meant Luminar Luminar is in there Which, like, again, Luminar, don't you have some shit to be dealing with? Like, are you how are you feeling?

Yeah. I would love a little pullaway to talk to you about what your situation is. Let's get a check in. Let's get a check in. He'd a homie check in on Luminon. The dude with the other, I don't know, his name, another Jedi master who has like the horns that come down is in there. Oh, yeah. And Palpatine's boy, whose name I forget.

But he's like in the click along. He's one of the three core members, you know. It's a wild meeting to just be happening about banking shit to bring like four Jedi Masters in on that. Very funny. It's also, it's so funny that's season two of the Clone Wars, again, where they're still kind of pitching

the show at like early tweens, where it's like, so, interest rates, pre-fiat currency banking systems. Yes. It all hinges on this. But so after, as this meeting breaks up,

uh, the way Anakin grabs Padman to, like, sort of yanks her back, to get some one-on-one time in Palpatine's Antrum, which is, we all remember, is covered in Sith, like, fan art behind the covering. Yeah, if this camera pulled like 30 degrees the other way, it would be that mural of the Sith killing the Jedi or whatever.

So, he, they get into it because he's like, I don't think you should work with Clovis. And it escalates. It goes from, I don't think you should, to I demand that you. To, as your husband, I demand that you tell the chancellor you're stepping down. Bro? Bro? So, Anakin found YouTube.

Yeah. Uh-huh. And he was like, there are roles in a family. There's a husband and a wife. And you've got to know what your role is. To submit to the authority. That's right. That's how the world is hierarchical.

You have to have a household that is hierarchical. Otherwise, you have chaos. You will never get a Bugatti if you do not do this. Oh no. Anakin Tate is here. I'm so mad. I'm so mad that this is where he ends up. He's as bad as he's ever been.

He's as bad as. But Clovis, this is the part that I, that just drives me just nuts. Because Clovis does become evil. Clovis literally at the end of this arc has a gun to Padma's head. Let's not forget. I think he fucks up before that. I think he fucks up more than that during the Padmae stuff in this episode or he is pushing way too hard. Yes.

So the end of the next episode is him being like, you know, what do you do? What do you fucking do if you're Clovis? The problem is like Anakin comes through that door. Yeah. You just need to hold a gun on Padmaid long enough to explain. But if you do not have her between You're done Like you need to get

Like I understand He got played so bad Oh it's played so It's beautiful It's beautiful brinksmanship You know But like It's the problem

When like you're pawn And you think like You're like you're a bishop or queen Right It's like he thinks he is a player in this And he's just being moved around the board But the other thing is Well we'll get to

We'll get in more of this, I think, a bit later. But the other thing that happens here is their argument is going full tilt. And then it turns out Cloves at some point in the room. Yep. Yep. And he gives a throat clearing that is like he has heard more than this than he should have, more than frankly he wanted to, and now needs to announce himself before this continues to go off the rails. But like at this point, the game is up.

as far as he, like, he knows. He knows. It's in the midst of all this, by the way, this is where we learned, like, Duku is going to have an element of this trap that he's going to spring. He's going to reach out to Clovis. But here's the other thing that I found so fucking, this is so absurd that we're keeping out with this fiction. Obi-1. Brow.

Visit Anakin. I need, but I need to paint you a picture. He needs to get Anakin back on side and need to, They need to have a hard target. So conversation, they still don't have the right one. Obi-Wan was not in that, was not in the meeting, which you know Yoda or Plu Koon. Someone DM'd, uh, Obi-Wan. And I was like, he says Yoda did.

He says Master Yoda feels that your judgments concerning Rush Clovis are clouded. Yoda said, and you know, Yoda said, don't tell him I told you this, but Obi-Wan is for real. And Obi-1 was like, I'm going to tell you, Yoda told me. That's how you establish the circle of trust. That's right. Here's the turn drives me nuts. He visits Anakin in Anakin's quarters. Which has a pod racing poster, by the way.

And nothing but storage. He doesn't live there. It is the most clear. It is the most clear that, like, this is his storage unit. He does not live there. The decor dates to when he was a child. When he was a kid. It's a bed quadreneros versus subalba pod racing poster.

They were in the race race. with him. They were pod racers from when he was a little boy. He's got like toy spaceships on the wall. You know what I mean? It is like, he went to paddle-on classes living in this room. He's got boxes in here that you open up in a JRP to get like, to get loot. To get loop. He's hoarding the loop drops. He is. They all pretend that like there's nothing weird about this. We're not just have attachments. So, you know, this is just that to extramed. Yeah, he just doesn't He's never

He doesn't really live in his quarters anymore He just uses it as a workshop And Does weird shit with the skull of a strategy droid Yeah, uh-huh Yeah, that was weird To be fair I'm gonna, go ahead, you finish

He does travel a lot You know Like No, the actual answer is he has a home It's Padmay's home He has nice things things. Oh, yeah, this is him being like, he's on the couch now, so he has to go sleep in his

Jedi dorm. Yes. Oh, no. Everybody else, you know Obi-Wan's dorm is great compared to this. You know Obi-Wan's got also, it's a weird mask on his wall. It's like a little problematic. You know what I mean? It's basically, but he's like, that was a gift from the Uta-Powans or whatever.

Lutthin gets most of his shit from Obi-Wan's room. A hundred percent. Obi-1 is one of his sources during this. era, I am certain of it. 100%. But this conversation, I think, is we gotta, I gotta drop it in. Yeah. We gotta go in on this.

You know, Anakin is like, something wrong? Obi-Wan says, you tell me. Not that I'm aware. Master Yoda feels that your judgments concerning Rush Clovis are clouded. I believe he can't be trusted. Yes, but there is more, isn't there? I sense a deep anger. in you by my simply saying his name.

He almost got Senator Amadala killed, and I would have been responsible. The senator has risked her life many times. She's quite capable of taking care of herself. They had a relationship. Once, I simply feel she is vulnerable to her emotions. She is? Or you? What are you implying?

Anakin, I understand to a degree what is going on. You've met Sotene. You know, I know. I once harbored feelings for her. It's not that we're not allowed to have these feelings, it's natural. Senator Amadala and I are simply friends. And friends you must remain. As a Jedi, it is essential you make the right choice, Anakin.

For the order. I understand my responsibilities. Responsibilities that must be observed whatever relationship develops between Clovis and Senator Ramadan. They have no relationship. It is simply business between them. Then we should have no problems, should we? The fact that Obi-Wan...

But like, Anneken is in the back of his room holding onto his little toy's spaceship. And Obi-Wan needs to be vulnerable and open with him, but cannot look at him to the point that he sits. He sits down with his back to Anakin Skywalker, longer, with at least six feet apart from them. Like, this is the closest emotionally they could try to get. And yet there's, there cannot be.

I think, but here's the thing. I've been part of it's because Sotin's dead. Me too. I think, I think this conversation is like, some of the tragedies of this is like, if things shake out differently, they go differently. If Sotin had survived, if his rescue mission had worked out. Right. When he says, you met Sotene, you know,

I've once harbored feelings for her. It's not that we're not allowed to have these feelings. It's natural. He has been telling himself that for weeks. Those are the words he has been saying to himself about everything that happened and like trying to forgive himself for getting involved, but not getting involved enough, but maybe getting involved too much. And was it all to get to, it was all to get to him?

Maul killed her because Maul hates Obi-Wan, right? And so it's like, you're right. I think in a different world where Satin lives through that, he can be like, We need to have a talk. And instead, he can only open the door. He can't bring Anakin through the door. But he does open the door. I do think the thing I just read is, like, as close to a, like, yo, bro, we can have the talk.

I get it. And Aniken says, we're just friends. We're simply friends. Anakin is so, like, just shut off. Like, it almost feels like Anakin is going. through the motions in this conversation. And to be honest, like, I do feel like Obi-Wan is trying to be somewhat open. But even the way that Obi-Wan says you've met Sotene, you know I once harbored feelings

for her, is so cold. It is so emotionally, like, just detached. I agree with that. But hearing a Jedi say it's not that we're not allowed to have these feelings. No, that is wild. It's natural is, like, the biggest step we've ever seen anyone take. A hundred percent. The shit that I always say, which is like, it's not about being perfect.

It's about like having the code as like a thing you're aimed towards and you fall off of it sometimes. It's not that you're not allowed to. So I'm with you. It is cold. But I think, again, in the context, what are you going to do? Like, everyone just went down this road and it broke as bad as it could break. Yeah. No, I'm totally with you.

I just think there's got to be a reason why this isn't reaching Anakin in this moment. and I feel like Anakin is someone who moves so crucially on emotional strength, like through emotions, through like his passion that like it, it's shocking that Anakin didn't have a bigger reaction to I had feelings for Sotene, but I feel like there's something in the detachedness from it where there isn't the passion there and maybe that's why Anakin is still feeling

like this is not safe because Anakin is such a like passionate emotional person that he unless you're speaking on that plane I feel like he has conditioned himself to just be

we're just friends we're just friends we're just friends like he's closed that completely off from anyone being let into whereas Palpatine speaks on an emotional plane with with uh with anikin like there he is heightened he is you know he speaks to that part of him and i feel like that's one of the reasons why anakin ends up trusting him because i feel like he sees emotions as the expression of emotions as a as a reason to trust someone um i also feel there's something so even here like you're

It reminds me, actually, this has changed, rewatching it here, listening to it back, it actually does remind me of the final scene between Asoka and Anakin, where he tries to reveal his doubts to her, and she says, I know. And what's so devastating about it is, like, again, like, you know, she already recognizes that to a degree he's a man without faith. he's like he's already sort of fallen from at least the Jedi code like it's not he it's their words but it's not you doesn't say it with his whole chest anymore he doesn't believe it and here obi one is also being evasive here you don't have harbored feelings with with the teen no you didn't harbor feelings you were partners on the run for like possibly years before she was like instated uh like on the on throne of mandolore but like it wasn't you harbored feelings is that you acted on them you lived an entire life based on them and then you

went back and you packed it in and you went back to being a Jedi and she went back to being Duchess of Mandelor and the whole Jedi Mandelaar thing probably made that super complicated the whole like would he be would he be an acceptable concert probably was a whole other conversation but but even here like the same way Anakin is always like I have to hold back what's actually going on I can't like it's such a big thing I can't can't speak it. Even here, Obi-1, I think, is still kind of trying to soft-pedal what's happening here. It's clear he hasn't explained or talked through this shit with Anakin.

He didn't say, we just had this talk about Satin. They even talked about that. He came back and O'B-W-W-W-and-Anne was probably like, are you good? Do you want to talk about it? And Obi-1 was like, Satine meant a lot to me. I'll be okay, you know? And that was, you know what I mean? They did not have the heart-to-heart about what that relationship was, really, right?

this seems like the first time that they're talking about Soutine in a long time. And I mean, the other thing that's, I think, worth saying is in another moment, the only thing that could get, I think there's a really interesting incompatible moment here, which is the only thing that could get Obi-Wan to open up this part of him is that someone he cares about is in danger of falling apart. But with Anakin, he would have to not be falling apart to open up to Obi-Wan about this. if this was on the ship during the whatever the name of that legacy of whatever voyage of whatever Yeah whatever that's

Was it actually called that? Was it actually called that? That's so funny In that episode That Anakin would have been like Oh yeah? Tell me more You know I want to know about you and Sotin Like you know what? Maybe we should have a little talk They were close to talking it out there

But Obi-Wan wasn't ready to go all the way in depth on that Because it wasn't critical It didn't it wasn't a way for him to try to bring his friend back on track. But with everything slipping through his fingers here, how can Anakin do anything except be in the defensive mode where he has to deny it and try to hold on to and grip it tighter and tighter and tighter? This is, of course, what kills Padmay eventually, right?

I mean... Is he quite literally tries to hold her so tightly she dies. So... The end of this conversation is it proves Anakin, it almost proves for Anakin why it was good that he did not open up. which is that Obi-1 signs us off and saying first Anakin says

Senator Amadala and I are simply friends and Obi-1 says and friends you must remain as a Jedi he fucking repeats the same shit that we always hear from the fucking Jedi as a Jedi it's essential that you make the right choice Anakin for the order and Anakin's responses I understand my responsibilities this was like

okay where it was like you are you skipped one thing which is Anakin did not say we're simply friends he said Senator Amadala and I are simply friends and he slammed a toy down on the desk because he's a little child. And so what Obi-Wan did was started to treat him like a child

and started to talk to him like he was a Padawan again and started to go back because he's also reacting emotionally and returning to the safety of Jedi dogma because he doesn't feel like he's talking to someone who he can trust and talk to in a one-on-one situation.

You're not going to open up this kid about Korky. No, you're not going to say you have a little son. You're not. This guy? You're not. So, like, it is, I'm sure Anakin would love to have a corky of his own one day. He does. He, you know, did you know this?

He does have a corky of his own. Fuck, I forgot that he literally. He literally becomes Darth Vader. Yeah, this is Darth Vader. His son is Luke Skywalker. His daughter is Leia. Oh, I thought you meant I was like, Luke's not a corky. Like, there's different corky.

Like, do you mean like he had different, like, no, but I'm sure. Anna can this is my my big my big question is is Padma pregnant by this point that's okay so because that one at that's a whole other layer I guess it's this episode where she's like I don't think that we should see each other for a while I was like are they is this literally the last conversation that we're going to see with of them in this show because that would be I would die I would die I would die no because like there's no way you go from that to him coming back and being like great news

I'm pregnant like they're awesome news just imagine the best thing just imagine the best thing you could possibly after you save the chancellor I'm pregnant

I'm like super pregnant by the way this movie I'm gonna have kids in this movie but for now she can't be too pregnant because she's pulling off a little like

like French French made by way of why didn't he have to go to opera okay The opening of that scene, the opening of that scene being the opera was great, but we should get to work. It's so funny. It's so out of pocket. As she lays out, his fucking, like, feast for their appetites.

And then goes over and, like, hand on shoulder. That was too much. That was too much. She's enjoying yourself a little bit. She's playing around. I'm not, I'm not going to lie. I was, I don't know. I would, last time, when's the last time anything, and she went to the opera.

Can't go to the opera. We can't go. Well, we know the Palpatine was like, take my box seats. I was at the opera last night, and I saw, I saw Pat May with Rush Glovis. Oh, my boy, I'm sure the investigation is going very well. They asked for my box seats to the opera last night so they could work together. But like, oh, oh, that's a great point. Papatine absolutely gave them his box seats for the night.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great point. Can we get a fit check? Because we're in, we got black dress Padmay. So for me, like there is the color scheme. To me, it's like there's a bit of French made and there's a lot of Audrey Hepburn happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it is.

And she got the Leia Buns. And I was going to say the Leia buns, yeah. It's the closest we've gotten to Leia buns. And I just appreciate that. I think that's. And Rush Clovis didn't change his cartoon outfit at all My boy went to his Doug closet and pulled out the green sweater vest like always And is just out here in his normal ass outfit

He didn't put a tux on He didn't get fit it like nothing I mean he has the high collar and the little button It's like it's fine but I feel like I see him in this every day Also this is not a working meal This just bothers me so much she is laying out It's too big turkey left This is, there's the scene in Tom Jones where two characters seduce each other by just laying into the most absurd feast possible and just like lustily tearing meat off a bone while like making eye contact.

This is that meal. She's like, let's really, let's really get into work. Here's a rack of lamb. It's two big cartoon meat sticks. It's literally like what you would eat in Fortnite to replenish health. Like, it is literally the meat that you get in Fortnite. And then there's a plate of, like, tomato slices and avocado slices or something. It's like you asked an AI to, like, give me a plate of vegetables.

And then this is it. And then they're drinking, like, some blue cocktail. First of all, first of all, first of all, when she did not need to sit down next to him. There are two couches. There are two couches. And she sits really close. They're trying to work together. Oh, like when they sit down to chat, yeah.

They're trying to look at the same screen. Also, she's the one who's like... Natalie's talking about when it's dinner time. Oh. She curls up next to him on the couch. I think she's having a guitar. And they reminisce about the old days. Yeah, she's the one who's like, remember when we were young?

Oh, my God. It's so wild. This reminds me when we had three nights to prepare for the Senate hearing to rescue Brom Lark's planetary aqueduct system. And together we saved a people from total drought and famine. I don't think either of us got any sleep that whole week, let alone eat anything. Hey, yo, I was like, you need to...

Y'all didn't sleep? What are you all doing this? Oh, y'all were saving some lives, huh? Okay, yeah, sure. Shout out. The drought broke on Corrissom. Let me tell you that. Shoutouts to the people of Bromlark.

So, in all this, Rush also reveals, like, What's at the center of him, he literally says, I believe in the banks. Yeah, yeah. And this is Lusorya says not all moons or whatever. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just before we, we need to stay on this point. He makes a move on her.

He does make a move on. And then she gets up, but she kneels in front of him his leg, like the whole positioning, the blocking here. That's just where the fruit is. That's just where the food. She's got to get the food. She didn't think it through a little bit, but you know. But she pulled away from the arm. It's just, it's just a.

It's a lot. A lot is happening. The tension was driving me insane. I was losing my... He leans over. He puts a glass in front of her. I know the glass. Yeah.

Uh-huh. She sits back down next him. Back down next him. Neither of them took that big piece of meat. Neither one of them reached over and, you know, they're just on... They're on their little nibble mode. Yeah, they're nibbling. Not going to get a lot of eating done tonight either.

It's like... But eventually you're really hungry. It's like one of those things where you're on a date and, like, the big meat you can't be like I'd be like I really want to tear into that that double dragon feast but I feel like

it would be quite the move I could see Clovis just going for it as an act of like peacocking of some sort I don't know he's trying to make that other play though that's the thing he doesn't eat that shit with a knife and a fork because he's like

I bet Anakin would just pick this up and eat it with His hands, uncivilized. He walked in on that argument, and he understands how he has to play this. Yes. He has to be the cultured one, taking hurt of the opera and shit. You know, like, he's trying to be, like, the alternative. But he still has to be a rags to riches guy, so that Padmey feels bad for him. He is George Wickham.

Like, here's the thing. He is literally George Wickham. He is unbelievable. The revelation that he is George Wickham from Brian Prejudice. By the way, we're back. Crying Prejudice, let's talk about it. He is, he was born to like nothing, and he gets adopted by, of, by someone high up in. Because his family worked for, like, highly ranked unions, and then they died in a plane crash.

Yes. Yep. This is literally, this is literally George Wickham. Yep. Yep. Yep. Which, by the way, and he's doing George Wickham shit. Like, he is 100% that dude.

Yep. He's trying to advance his place. Yep. You know who would make a very advantageous wife would be Padmay? Would be Padmay? 100%. And he was doing that thing where he's like, I am more, like, I am so bought in on this that like I'm more immune than a lot of like the like munes who were born to like this

the banking clan like life. He's like I believe in the institution like by choice. Like I have fully, I owe this institution, this structure, everything. and I will like I will live and die for it I love moons I love moon so much I would do

they are not bad people they are the best people ever but there's a dishonest few who are destroying everything for their own game I believe in the banks the system works do you think when he's like

we were born I was basically born as a servant and Padmey's like I had no idea you know she loves a little rags to riches motherfucker you know That's what I'm saying. Anna was born a slave. Anna was born a slave and she was like, he cleaned up nice.

This is the same shit. She just has a type. This is the whole thing. First of all, how did this not come up when you were fucking rescuing Bromlark's planetary aqueduct system? At that point he was like 22

and he was really ashamed of this. And now he's like 58 for some reason. And he's become part of his like identity. It's nuts. But I do think I think this is like a crucial Padmae's like Wow

You were poor And now you are not I of course trust you forever And ever and ever and ever And I will do anything you say It's it's not It's not great The other thing so

And this is so here's the Here's the one problem Anakin's read on Clovis Is very accurate Because One He broaches he's like it's that Jedi, isn't it?

Which is not why she is turning him down. Like, I do believe, I do believe this. Like, she feels warmly to him. There is an attraction or a ghost of an attraction there, but it is over. Have you ever met up with an ex years after, years after you broke up and you're reminiscing about old times? You might even say something like, you know, we had something really, we did something really great.

We had a really great relationship. And you can leave it at that. You can leave it at we had a wonderful relationship and how lucky are we to have experienced a wonderful relationship together. And then the X goes, well, it didn't have to be all in the past. Yeah. Do you ever think we could have made some different decisions and maybe we'd be in a different place today? And then he goes in and it's that Jedi, isn't it? But that's not like, it escalates to various forms of coercion real fast from there.

Very quick. Because he goes immediately from, oh, it's probably that Jedi. That's why you're turning me down because otherwise, of course, we'd already be together. But two, he does the whole like, hmm, isn't it against the rules for a Jedi to have attachments like this? It's bad. And then he grabs her. And he specifically says, wouldn't he be banished from the order if someone found out about this? Like, this is coercion, like 1,000 percent.

And then it escalates to, like, the start of a physical assault. Like, he grabs her. Uh-huh. And that's when the door opens and Anakin... And we get the fucking Kill Bill Kung Fu camera zooming on his face on his eyes. And, okay, so this is, like, I feel a little bit bad for Anakin here because, one, you walk in in this, like, the first thing you got to do is, like, remove the threat. So, like, one, there's going to be a little, like, there's got to be a little violence now. Two, after it's broken up.

He does force choke him. He just force-choke him and throw him across the room into a pillar. The imperial theme is about to start playing in the background. Real effective way that would get him away from Padmae. I'm just saying, like, the lightside version is a lightsaber to the face. So, you know, sometimes like force choking for goodness is okay. I think it's just a force push. I think you just do a push.

Yeah, I'll bet that's what it was. Emerald Lightning. He did go to clutch at his throat, though. He did almost, and then he threw him instead. But then, Clovis gets up and is like, get over her. I'm going to kick your fucking ass. He just fight me like a man without your Jedi tricks. I respected him for that.

Me too. And Anakin is like, all right, cool. And throws his lightsaber away. He, you know, whatever turns it off. Yeah, he does. He throws it away. Yeah. And he does the funniest little walkover I've ever seen in my life.

He looks like an NES character. My guy looks like Simon Belmont doing a little. It's Caval in Mission Impossible. In Mission Impossible. It is. Who, who, who. And then they fight. Did they fight?

I got to tell you, there were some moments in there. I was like, oh, my God, if you get washed by Clovis, it's done for you. Clovis does, like, a spinning back kick. I was like. Spinning back, you know? I didn't know he had it in them. The other tips it is the accidental, like, fist bump, like, they kill punches, and one of them's a metal fist. One of them is a metal fist.

But that's not the end of it. It's after that that Clovis gets up with the back spinning kick. Shit. And how does, how does Anakin win this fight? But beating the shit out of him No What's he doing? If your wife

If your wife was being manhandled By this rowdy He did the right thing He force pulls him up in the air And then force pushes him away He breaks the rule That's a forfeit Now I'm not saying

He did the right thing But Oh man And then he starts bouncing him around the apartment Yeah Like literally spikes him into the floor And this is where he's like force unleashed mode in this moment like he starts like he's going to kill this man

he's gonna kill him and and padmay has been asking like now the lightsaber not a clean smooth with like punch it goes longer than you think it yeah it's a lot you know what i mean like it goes longer than i thought a cartoon was allowed to show one person get punched in the face repeatedly and a cartoon for children and Padmae's been trying to call him off now for minutes. Yeah. And so this is where it's all going to go wrong for, like, this is really what's going to, like, lead to this breach. But before he, like, Annegan's well on the way to killing him and realizes what he's about to do.

He's, like, got the kill shot with the fist poised and he realized like what he's about to do. And at that point, the bodyguards walk in, the Naboo, the Naboo guards walk in. And I'll give Clovis this. He lies. Like, there could be a lot more trouble here. And at this point, it's like two drunk guys fighting caught by the cops who are like... That exact energy. It's fucked up.

We weren't fighting at all. No. No fighting. There was a dog. There was a dog got in. That's the energy that they had. There was an assassination attempt. An air speeder, do you ever see the Godfather three?

It was like that. The funny thing is, we know that that's how the world works because Rush Clovis did that in episode one of this arc. He climbed up the fucking. He's like, oh, that thing I did last episode. It happened, but this time bad. This time, another guy. Also, he is fucked up. He is so fucked up that he is to get pulled away and put in the bedroom.

Is this his place? Whose place is this? I think it's his place. So he, she says bring him to the bedroom. Also, this is where I realize I forget to her place is two stories. Well, and has, and this is my, here's my infosec thing. The next sequence happens in a living room that is outside. It's an open air.

It's an indoor, outdoor living room. They are outside when they have this next conversation. There was a speeder jet bike car thing parked 10 feet away outside on their carport. People thought dirigible were going to just like docked apartment towers in the 20s. They were like, this is going to be living. You just pull your dirigible up to your house. You're a senator You hang out with a Jedi

Let's like forget about the fact that you're married Don't have important conversations out here Someone's across the way With one of those big radar looking microphones Yeah You're getting phasmophobia Like someone has dialed in on this shit right now Trying to get state secrets

And instead they're getting They're getting and they're not even talking in code They're not even like You know the way we've been living has You know what I mean? He says she straight up says Like this marriage is not a marriage That killed me

That is going in the tabloids Tomorrow Here's the thing I don't think Padme About this I don't think Padmay or Anakin are particularly Very you know

Savvy Individuals in general Unfortunately They should not be married They should anybody maybe get like a get just the get the get the get a room get a room get in a room and have this conversation in a soundproof room that would be better than this yeah that would be good also there is a little bit of like have me a year older than him like like like there's a like there's

kind of a like a like not like joyful like I'm calling you on this ship but there is like a like we are fully like we are going to fully get into it and like hold you fully accountable for this and it's like he was a traumatized he was a traumatized child soldier when you met

and like and this and again this kind of like one of the tragedies of their marriages it's kind of trapped in amber like that who they were at the moment they decided, like, to sort of throw their fates together. It's kind of the only, like, this is kind of who they remain in a lot of ways because there just is not enough time to grow beyond that because it's all, it's one crisis after another. Yeah.

Like there just aren't moments to sort of settle into some sort of domestic life. They've only been married during wartime. Yeah. That's, you know what I mean? Like, they got married when the war started. That's how that movie ends. the clone army rolls out and they get married. So there's not been time to define, you know, what they're looking for in this relationship or like, I bet there's a lot of, you know, when this is all over conversations, but there's probably, but that's a lot of that stuff is stuff that could be right now and is conveniently not.

Do you know what I mean? The thing I will say is like, there's like, she, like, I am sure it would be, I'm sure it's a bad look to be like, hey, by the way, I've, been secretly married to a Jedi forever but it is she is keeping his secret like fundamentally like she is having to like live a double life for him for for her there's no like she could be like yep I have fallen in love with a Jedi and like what are we going to do about that I don't think she wants that for herself either I think she's pretty I mean there are points at which Anakin in the in isn't it in Revenge of the Sith or something that Anakin's like let's go away let's like let's let's let's let's let's

stop this and she's like no that's not right like I'm a senator like I need to you know this isn't right or whatever like I think the the the need for secrecy is just as much a part of her lifestyle and

career as it is a part of his I mean if he was a regular guy obviously I don't think it would be as much although I don't know because it seems like there are are a lot of motivations for, like, politically advantageous marriages in the Senate in general, then not. So, I don't know. Mm-hmm. The thing that she says in revenge is he's, you're right, he's like, let's, let's,

I'm tired of this deception. I don't care if they know we're married. And she's like, don't say things like that. You're important to this republic. I don't want you to give up. Your life is a Jedi. You love being a Jedi. So she's still framing it in his terms, but that's, but that's still just like middle of the road. You know what I mean? More importantly, the thing I was going to actually say that I think is interesting is that she does enunciate clear terms of what her disillusion with the marriage is. Yeah. Which is, she says, uh, this marriage isn't a marriage, Anakin, if there, if there isn't any trust, we said at the beginning this could be a terrible mistake. And he says, what exactly are you saying? And she says,

that other people who are married have everything that we don't, everything that we won't. We live in secret. And again, like it or not, our relationship is based on lies and deception. No relationship can survive that. And his response is not about that. His response is, I know I went too far. It's just something inside me snapped. And like, that's not an answer to what she said.

Her real problem, she is, this has been a catalyst for her being honest about longstanding issues in the relationship, which is that she has to go move through the world privately. She has to go move in the world and pretend that she's single all the time. She doesn't get to come home and see her husband. They don't get to plan to have kids. They don't get to go to the opera together. She got to go to the opera last night. You know she wants to go to the opera with Anakin Skywalker.

She married him on secret. Like, she wants to do so many things with Anakin that she is not allowed to do. And his response to that was not to say, I know it kills me too. But we have to, you know, da-da-da-da-da. Well, he's hyper-fixated on this most recent mistake, and, like, that is the reason why she's upset is, like, this most, it's like the most recent. But that's not why she's a mistake or upset. She, I mean, she, you know, she is upset that he tried to, he almost killed in Clovis for sure. But that's a good point, because, like, but the thing, you're right.

When the scene begins, he is sitting there haunted on the, like, dock for the airspeed. Yes. Because for him, the original sin of his life is not Padme. It's the village of sand people. Like, it is the violence he is capable of unleashing when he loses control of himself, specifically when someone he loves is threatened or has been harmed. And so he is sitting there because he's just seeing that, once again, like, kind of come bubbling out. And you're right.

Like, she is in this place of, like, I need to talk about, like, foundational things to our marriage. And he is in a place of, I need to talk about the fact that I have an uncontrollable, like, dark side rage. Like, yeah Which is fair She's aware of that too I mean she Her response to that is

I don't know who's in there sometimes Like she is aware that like There is a disconnect Between the Anakin she fell in love with And The Anakin Who he is and who he can be sometimes The Antiquet she fell in love with

So I killed a village full of Tuscan's last night And when you're not married and then they got married I mean this is like she's been lying to herself about this for a long time Of course I mean I think she was more

more You know what's funny is it coming off the back of her going on you know presumably a normal night to the opera going on like a date

with someone that she used to have a relationship with and saying that you know at one point in this conversation she says I just know that I'm not happy anymore

I don't feel safe. Like, oh. It's so, it sucks. Sometimes people just don't fit together like puzzle pieces. You know what I mean? I would kill. Kill.

For them just to let Scorsese remake a version of the, of the prequel trilogy, from the standpoint of Pad Bay and Anakin in the style of Goodfellas. Yeah, it would be great. It would be really good. I know, I know some senators. I was a little boy. I always wanted to be a Jedi. She knew her boyfriend killed a village full of sand people.

Yeah. Uh-huh. It kind of turned me up. It's all right there. This is an S&L sketch from 20 years ago. Yeah. They should have let us make it then. Anyway.

Anyway, she says, she says, I think it's best we don't see each other anymore, at least not for a while. Which is, it's one of the most unfathomable things. that I can't believe that she says that. And Anakin is still fixated on this being because of this specific incident, because he snapped. And I think it's hard for him to see Anakin has never had another relationship.

Anakin does not know what it means to truly be in a relationship with someone or be married to someone. Padme has had, like, worldly experiences and has had other relationships, albeit, you know, sort of juvenile model UN slash real UN relationships. But she understands that, like, what, what a normal dynamic, normal romantic dynamics can be like. Anakin has no idea of normalcy about anything because he was kidnapped at a at a young age has had no like who is a model of a normal relationship in his life there is no model of it like he is set up from to fail from the very very beginning um yeah is there a single good couple in star wars prequels i'm just imagining a padmate like their friends are going to married relationships are starting, and she's like looking at Perrin and Ma'amma

and being like, I want what they have. Oh, God. Do you think he goes and talks to Perrin? He should go talk to Perrin right now. They should go talk. It'd be so funny. It'd be so funny. So the, well, and I think

like this is sort of a last point on this is there is the fact of his jealousy, which is that you're right, Natalie. He has never learned to process the fact that, like, like other people will find your partner desirable and will want like it is not like the person you are with like you were the only person who would like discover the secret of their cool and interesting person and like that is why they are with you he can't process that he thinks

like you know basically he asked first and there's never been any like other temptation or other option and the thought of that scares the shit out of him because what doesn't like what hasn't sort of like locked in for him is that you know it's the well the thing that holds the relationship together is the fact that like this person still values you above like everything else that like the relationship is valued above those other options and he can't because of that inexperience and because of like the entire like warped logic of their relationship uh he can't process that like it is why this thing like why he's been seething over this

the entire time because for him Clovis even expressing interest is this like incredible transgression and by not freezing him out entirely pad may signaling like well I guess you're okay with this and it is kind of you know they're making this in 2014 but

I think Hayden Christensen that whole portrayal of Anakin did dial in on the very 90s style of like insecure dude where it was like where are you talking that guy why are you leading him on yeah well what were you doing

to make him think that like you yeah yeah and like well he specifically says he specifically says I couldn't like I snapped when I saw you about to kiss him is specifically what he says whereas when Rush Clovis I mean when he like leans in he says there should be nothing to stop us from doing this

like and she says no And she says no, there's like, it's like two sides of just, of just fucked up, like, perspectives on relating to a romantic partner, which is that, that Rush decides that his perspective is the universal perspective. And in, in Anakin's mind, it's, it's constantly based on Padmay as the agent, Padmay as the actor, and what she does rather than, you know, it's not even the, Just, yeah. Oh, God. He's so hard to defend sometimes. I can't do it. I can't do it.

I'm sorry. It's hard. I know that you're, I know that you're, it's, it's, it's, I respect your attempts. I really do. He does leave when she, when she says. Yeah. He does. Well, the bar is falling through the air now.

He does say, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to, he says. And E. E.O. is his way off screen right. you know what is the point of the of what's his name coming in and being like is everything all right and paddemy's like no and he like looks at and she looks at and i was like what are you y'all are giving the whole shit away her bodyguard is pissed he like he's pissed when they lies where he was like i can't fuck it like this is if i wanted to deal with this shit i would have been a beat cop

working down like in the like smugglers district or whatever if i wanted two shitheads to be like no we were fighting i would be doing a different job i thought i was getting away from all this but here we are and then padmate well tecla's dead so i guess someone else just has to be there as like an involuntary confidant yeah so speaking of bad op-sec Rush is being tended by a medical droid. And the medical droids being like, take two aspirin, you're meant nicely. By the way, I'm a servant of Count Dukui. It's so funny.

I have a little piece of trivia for Force Unleashed fans here. This is supposed to be like proxy from Force Unleashed, the holographic droid, first appearing as a medical droid, then becoming a full-body hospital. hologram of Count Duku, but apparently it was too complicated, so they cut it and just made him drop the little message disc. No, bring back proxy. Yeah, that'd

been cool. Anyway, Duku's here and it was like, hey, I can give you the information you need to make this thing happen. I'll even start pay interest. It's a show of goodwill. Idiot, idiot, idiot, man.

How could you believe this? How could you believe this? the separatists have not been paying interest for presumably ever when presumably ever and this is like a classic like all you have to do is get yoda on the phone right now and be like hey duccoo just called me at so many points rush clovis could have just been like hey but the thing is you know what he wouldn't go to yota he would go where would he go pad may oh i palpatine at this point palpatine you don't think he would Go back to Padmae? Be like... No, his hands are shaking from that fight. He's not going around Padmae if he can help it.

It's done. It's done. He got... Nope, it's done. I thought his hands... I thought his hands were shaking because he was like trying to strong man, strong man, Duku, and that was terrible part of him. Yeah.

I thought it was, I mean... Even if he goes to Padmey, she's calling Palpatty immediately. Yeah, that's a problem. She throws that name around heavy. Like, yeah. Yep. It's all the same. It's so stupid.

Oh. So I think there's a couple things. One is the clearest demonstration of, like, what? What is it? Like, the Jay Paul Getty, like, if, like, if you owe the bank $1,000, you have a problem. If you owe the bank, like, $10 million, the bank has a problem, that, like, this is, like, that is the territory is in. Like, this is the thing. He's like, I can be the one to save the banks.

But this is vanity. The banks are beyond saving. Like, this is, like, this call where he's like, I will begin paying interest again. the minute your biggest like debtor is like and if you do what I say I'll start paying interest by the way I have an army it's over it's over done like that that just get out of this whole field do you know what I mean if I'm rush Clovis after today I'm going into law get into ceramics yeah yeah 100% new new career time for me you know he has savings you know he has a little something middle a little side account he I'm gone homie I'm like I'm like

I'll see y'all on DeBoo. I'll catch you by the beach. He's like helping clones set up like personal savings accounts for like, you know, someday this war may end. The problem. And you may be given your liberty afterwards. You know the Jedi order needs a CPA. You know what I mean?

Someone has to help them do taxes. The problem is, Rush Clovis used to fucking run a droid factory for the separatists. So he will never be that guy. He is this guy forever. He is this guy. He's this guy. He's never going to be that guy. He's always going to be this guy because he's to run a fucking droid factory for them.

Yeah. You're right. Like, who are we kidding? Also, how did he even get back to fucking Scipio? Yeah. I don't know. He was running a droid factory. I just, I really, I really, the fact that there was ever the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.

of like a rush Clovis redemption arc is just ridiculous because he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's moving for a seat of like ultimate power he wants to control the fucking bank Henry Kissinger was a beloved public figure with like widely and like it's one of those things where it's like nobody would like clovis like back in respectable and it's like nah they would uh but I do agree I do think like a lot of, like, he's ambitious, and a lot of his ambitions because of this background aren't going to come true. So, like, on some level, Duku has read his man, where it's like, I will put you in charge of, uh, Skipio. This is the avenue to do that. And Clovis is vain enough to think that, like, once in place, I can get out from

under this. Yeah. Even though that threat, well, not even the threat, the I'll begin paying interest is, you know, the flip side of that is, it is my choice whether I pay it at all. and by the way if the interest payments stop the banks are insolvent like we're in Ponzi scheme territory

but also this is the galactic bank this is the bank of the galaxy this is the biggest bank there is it's so fucked up that they're in this situation to begin with

it's bad it's really really bad they skimmed a lot of money yeah like it's like the amount that they where's that money go do they not get that money back Well, that's...

That's one of Padma's questions because they talk about how there's like thousands of of small transactions that... Right, they get them with the office space warm. Exactly.

It's a little... It's a penny off of every $10, but it adds up. Where could this be coming... I was like that's... You know who that is? I was like, that's their monmouthma. Their monmoutha is doing that shit. Oh, shit.

For sure. For sure. Wow. So, the, I used to think it's scary is your medical droids, like, I'm a servant of Count Duku. I guess that's the other part of this is like, you could just be like, for the rest of your life. You could just be like, ah, well, you know, time to go get my blood work done. And, like, that medical droid might be, like, Count Duku's assassin. Like, that could just be it.

Yeah, how has Duku not used this, this droid to make some killings? He could be doing, he could be putting in work. They're under the fingernails. For real. So, anyway, he takes the files. The important, I mean, the thing that comes out of here that's important to understand is, the head of the banking clan needs the approval of both the separatist Senate and the Galactic Senate. Does it, when that comes out, I'm like, this war is over.

It's done, for you all. Pack it up. You're now negotiating, because neither of you are solvent. you and the separatists are both negotiating with the same bank to literally fund both sides of the war openly it's yes the fact that Padmay is able to be like

yeah he did work with the separatist and that's what makes him the perfect guy to be the next shit happens all the time that's that shit that people are like this is like Donald Trump being like you're right I did I did uh you know do some tax avoid and stuff, because I'm smart. Like, it's that shit.

Like, people love it. People eat it up when someone is like, I work both sides. And that's just the way the world is. I guess, you know, I played the game better, you know? It's true. It's true. Yeah. So.

We have one more episode. This next episode is not as packed with. No. But, yeah, so the munes throw in. Bad relationship stuff. Yes. He gets the job, and he's like, I will rule impartially. Was this the episode where?

No, it's the next episode where Mom Mothma shows up, right? It is. It is. It's the end of the next episode. But Chucci from Pantorida to show up in this. She's quick to put her vote behind him. Mm-hmm. Shoutouts to Bail Argana for fucking voting no.

Yeah. Bail Argana, it's increasingly the most real one that we've seen. so yeah next episode what we get is a republic task force arriving meeting a similar task force of uh droids uh we don't see them as much but like there's the idea is that there's like armed uh delegations for both the separatists and the republic to oversee this establishment of neutral ground uh as clovis takes the delegations from both sides into like the center of like banking operations and as he is installed you know the who is this dude with a little brain uh this is separatist senator beck lewise that's his name it's so funny lew i s e w i s e yeah lewize okay uh again like serious serious like this war might be over vibes where he's like chatting affably to Padmae being like you think he's up for this and like you think this is you think this is all gonna work out I did he's a separate I didn't

realize he's a separate he's the separatist he's he's now I understand that came here okay yeah that yeah this is all yeah this is very obvious now um what the hell why is Padmaid just like chumming it up with him because they're both separate and they're both senators you know senators respect senators and it's neutral ground like we're just hanging out here

now this is diplomacy and remember she had friends on the separatist Senate so and it turns out they got a better Senate it just turns out to be completely fake the other the other thing here is in Clovis's speech

he gives the whole like I have no interest in controlling the banks I'm just here to reestablish order. Again, this is like a little bit of like the, in some ways he is like the neoliberal response to the financial crisis of like we've uncovered massive like society jeopardizing malfeasance at the heart of our banking system. Don't worry. I'm not going to do anything about it. I'm just going to balance the books out until it all goes away and it all goes back to normal. And everyone's like, yeah, this seems like a good plan. That's what we need. Yeah, that's it. And I guess, you know, You know, what's funny here is, of course, that, like, Palpatine's going to be the one

to, like, seize the banks and effectively nationalize them at the end of this. Because he's the sort of guy who's not going to let a good crisis go to waste. But Clovis sort of fits the, like, neoliberal elite model of, like, oh, a few bad apples went wrong, but, like, the institutions are unimpeachable, and we just have to protect them exactly as they are. I also feel like there is something happening here. around, you know, we've talked about the Mune being weird Jewish stereotypes in the past. We've talked about this being like a recurring thing.

And on one hand, the show does, the show wants to get away from that if they can help it. But on the other hand, a thing that's happening here is that a bank, which has been historically operated by the people of Scipio, is now being run by this white dude from the white human dude, which is the direction that. the galaxy is going in, right? We know that what's about to happen to the galaxy is a bunch of aliens are going to get their shit taken away from them. They're going to get replaced by humans. They're going to get killed. And their wealth and resources and land are all going to be appropriated by the empire. And it's like, obviously, this guy is not meant to sit in this chair for a long time, you know.

But it's interesting to see them setting that stuff up. Because the end of this is that the Republic takes control of the bank and that effectively Palpatine sits in the chair. Yeah, and even bigger one guy. Palpatine's another human. Yeah, an even bigger, evil, or white guy. A white guy who doesn't even have any cool logos on his face, you know? I would love it. Those have, like, a stencil tattoo.

Anyway, yeah. I would love it of those are just straight, like, facial tattoos and not, like, some sort of, like, oh, it's a immune cultural marker or anything. He's just like, no, I like, this one says cash. This one says money. It's how I show my enthusiasm for banking. God. So it's like literally his first day on the job And Duku sends him another message

He doesn't get 24 hours I don't think that he even gets an hour I think his ass touches the seat And boom, FaceTime coming in Yes It's so rancin There is that What's the monologue from the liar

With Karketti being told He has to eat bowls of shit The second you get elected That's it It's happening here The parable of the bowls of shit I thought it was a mistake at first I was like Duke you have to slow down

you can't move this quick but it turns out you absolutely can move this quick It's part of the plan it looks like actually I didn't fully get what the game was Right Like this is one thing I didn't fully understand It's like the whole point Was to actually have this go off the rails completely

Yeah yep It wasn't at all about getting our guy And like getting him to bend to our well It was about having it collapse every single step of this plan has gone according to plan

there has been no deviation from Palpatine's epic epic epic epic game this whole thing is scripted

high fives on this one yeah I feel this one just feels to me more like a ducu plan like there's a little more like I've read my man

like I know the circles he moves in I know what he aspires to be it doesn't have the like I think like duku is like I've worked on a very good plot to take over the banks.

And Palpatine's like, and I got Clovis and Padmaid to go to the opera, and it drove Jedi Skywalker crazy. And Duke was like, ah, very impressive, my lord, as I was saying, though, we're about to seize the banks, and Palpatine is like, and then I sent a nice roast up to her quarters. That's accurate. That happened. That's exactly what happened. It's a documentary.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Duku, do you ever miss Nouveau Vindy? I could release him for you. So, so Clovis, this is the last off-ramp.

This is the last moment I think Clovis could have, like, called Yoda and Palpatine, well, preferably on a joint call because Palpatine gets a call alone. Who knows what happened? It's done. But he could have called Yoda and been like, okay this is already off the rails

I need help but instead he does exactly what Duke who wants which is he's going to raise raise the interest rates on the Republic again and not make the separatists pay

again dude this is not this is the point where Yoda is like this isn't right he moved away if this was what he was trying to do this is not the way he would do this

there's no way Do you see our little Mon Cowboy is out here? Prince Moncal is in the in the Galactic Sandus? A tuna fan? Tuna man? Or maybe that's maybe the different person. Jim Tuna? I don't have my... What's his name?

Charlie Tuna? Charlie Tuna. It was Charlie Tuna. Jim is his father. Prince Charlie. Yeah, that's what it was. I don't think it's Prince Charlie, but it's a Moncal is here. And then one of the cool ladies who

hung out with Padme and Satine and them is out here talking about we knew this was going to happen with him and that's when Yoda is like this is a little convenient yeah yeah the nicest thing

Yoda has ever said to Anakin Skywalker and will say to Anakin Skywalker I think you were right about that Rush Clovis guy you should have beat him up finish the job you must And then the other part of this

To have it go all like to really stick the knife In Clovis's back Duku launches a surprise attack out of the blue To wipe out that Republic garrison Their little senator dude has no idea what is happening As Duku and his forces like land on the planet Slaughter the Republic troops Perhaps not as Lewise as

we thought I'm sorry unbelievable that one this is like racked ready to go the second I said the wise

yeah I've been thinking about it the whole time we're getting ready for the moment it didn't hit it didn't hit they get wrong it kind of hit someone out there

would fucking laugh and then was like why is no one else laughing you know that hit with the audience it was Aiden shout us to Aiden for the show

so yeah the the they get rocked bad they are not ready for this at fucking awe the clones have never looked more washed the clones look like they forgot they were at war like it is done yeah the separatists should just do this all the time the separatists could have taken the whole place like without rush they could have done this weeks ago months ago yeah they should just done that and then and then have the you kind of skipped all this rush shit entirely. No, because they did need to discredit all the banking clan leadership. Like, they needed to have that, like, they needed to both show the banking clan as like unfit to rule. And then be like, well, we'll salvage it by having one of their own installed to fix it. Right.

Oh, it turns out he's a radical separatist. Because the crucial part. We can only trust the chancellor. Is that the republic has to quote unquote win in the end, right? Like, this is, you know, all of this is to put chancellor. Halpatine. Back to the Mune. It has to be able to, the Mune have had to be discredited to.

Yeah. And like, cherry on top, they kidnap, they take Padmei prisoner. She draws down on Duku. Oh, I wish you would have taken the shot. The separate senator guy is like, this is nuts. He's like, this is, like, Duku, the Senate is not going to approve of this. This is, like, you've gone way too far. And Duku, force grabs,

Padmae's gun and forces her to shoot the senator from the separate to separate Senate dead on the floor. So good. Love to see it. Yeah, Duke is putting in work this arc. It's been a minute since we saw Duke who really do it.

I messed him. Ain't no Duku and Andor. You know what I mean? Like, Andor has his highs. I love Andor. Ain't no Duke with Andor. Ain't no Darth Tyrannis. You know what I mean?

Like... He's Darthing right now, for sure. He's Darth mode. He is in Darth mode. Well, it's so, like, it's so funny that, like, he is moving this... It's so clear he is moving this thing toward the end game. Like, the whole value of the, like, separatist war effort is diminishing, like, losing interest in that, so he's going to start liquidating parts of it.

But it doesn't see as the other end game at all. He does not have any conception that, like, you... you know, as the face of the entire, like, false adversary of this war effort, like, you're going to have to be killed. You're going to have to, like, go down. You can't imagine it. And so, yeah, he, I mean, another small thing here, that tactical droid that Anakin killed last arc is just back.

I don't know what happened there. But, uh, Cracken, the super tactical droid is just on. Yeah. I thought he escaped. I think he gets killed in that previous arc. does he not my notes from months ago say Anakin killed this tactical droid last arc how is he back um

so who knows they made another one trusting past austin but I also like another thing that I do like here is the gunships from Anderan showed up again on this fight the ones that they needed the Stinger missiles from Honda to beat show up and they don't have those missiles this time and they fitted those ships with the super battle droids with like the big bulky ones that get dropped off here. So they like upgraded them. And it's, it is, it's just like a fun little line to trace is the like technological development of these two forces over the course of the show.

In the last episode, Rob, you talk about the, maybe this was last season at this point, but you talked about the two armies coming to look like one another. In the last arc, I pointed out that some of the clones have shields. that they use now like big shield like riot shield type things um and and just seeing that development is like a fun through line uh and i like it when they like go into the archive and like pull out a cool spaceship to use again because they got a bunch of cool ones in there you may as well use them so also ripped to commander thorn with the mini gun didn't stand a chance but like tried to do it this the scream for the republic and then it just he gets shot by every guy in the circle and then gets and then gets headshot at the end it's brutal it's brutal

way to go team k oh yeah uh-huh this show loves a guy with a gatling gun going down uh screaming defiance also we got our first little taste of as anikin's about to like so the senate goes into full war panic uh at this they're like we have to we have to go in uh have you now seize Skipio. Everyone's sold on it. Is this the first time we've had Yoda and Mace take Anakin aside to try to make sure he's going to clear head on a mission? Because this gives me a little bit of a little bit of what we see with, yeah, revenge, where like he's going to go on the mission. And Yoda's like, you know, you're going to have big feelings out there on the mission.

Hey, buddy. Sometimes you feel things that are really big inside. You don't have the words for them, and that's okay. Just give yourself the time to calm down before you make any big decisions, okay? And if you ever need anything, you can call me or your mom. Okay, not your mom because of what happened with her, but we can call me. And I'm sure you probably just got those big feelings because you're so angry that Rush deceived everyone again, right? Nothing else

Everybody knows Dude everybody knows Everybody knows So We've got Clovis Completely deluded Trying to talk to Padma being like

I'm going to fix this Babe babe I'm going to pull this all out As she's being held by droids Like he won't even give her the decency of like Of standing on her own Like, she is in captivity. I don't think he can call off the droids.

Yeah, those aren't. He doesn't have. He's also being held prisoner. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he, Duke was giving him the dignity of standing without being held by his droid. It's true. While he's saying, she's like, I'm going to get it back. It's all going to come under control again.

I'm going to be in charge. Boy. Yeah, and she's like, you're just, like, you, like, you don't even see what, what's happening here. the Republic comes in with everything they've got and Duku immediately is like well my work here is done

to the point where even the droids are like what? His tactical droid is like but we're still fighting? He's like nope, don't care about how this goes we're booked to lose this one and then we have some of the worst luck so

Anakin is on a mission he's just going to rescue Padman fights his way up to the tower where she's being held and yes, this is where Clovis is like let me explain while I hold your wife hostage here and as this is all unfolding I start wondering why are we getting a really detailed dogfight

they keep cutting away to these clone Z-95 That's a cool dog fight it's very cool and they know how to make this show now I don't you all notice they can make a TV show like it's dynamic there's the cool barrel rolls and like guys like calling for eight

he's on my six all that good shit why are we watching it it's because as they are in danger of maybe sorting some of this stuff out they shoot down the droid ship and send it cartwheeling into the bank window.

I guess they kind of, yeah, they started to do a 9-11 situation here. Yeah, they 9-11 the Swiss Bank. They're 9-11 in the Swiss Bank. It happens. As Rush Clovis is looking out the window saying, say, What's he saying?

He says, such plans I had. You know, I've spent so much of my life misunderstood. What will they say about me now? What will I have left behind? And then Padmae's like, turn yourself in. Clovis, this is the literal last fucking chance you have. Turn yourself in, please.

And Clovis is just waxing on, oh, but my legacy, what will it be? I was once a poor boy. Yeah. and then we get the classic Anakin catches them both as they're falling forgets he can use the force again this keeps happening

I know this keeps happening which I can't hold both of you size matter's not just lift the fucking imagine it's an X you literally have the force bro yes when there are only two footsteps

there was the force carrying you use the force I'm slipping into a Jerry Seinfeld everything kind of like so there's the whole like Clovis is like Nobody knows what's going on I have to tell you

It wasn't me It was Duku But like Padme has seen all the key stuff Yeah there's not There's no mystery here This is not a five situation Where there is something grander I mean like there is

But no one knows that it's Palpatine You know Yeah yeah Well I mean Padme I mean Padme did see some of what Like the Duku manipulation was But crucially

At the point of at which, before the plane crash, at the point at which Clovis has the gun to her head and is trying to explain himself. Tell him that I'm good. Yeah, all she says is let me go, like, unhand me. And Anakin's like, that's all I needed. And then we have like, just one of the most,

just worst character deaths. I just. It sucks. It sucks. It's so boring. It sucks. It's nobody, it's, it's, everyone gets off. Yeah.

Yes. 100%. Everyone. Especially. Especially. Tonight when he becomes, when he impregnates Padmae. Oh my God. I felt it.

I felt it. I felt it. It's dead ass right after this. It's dead ass right after this, right? Yeah. Because like all of their relationship problems are just like, okay, we're good now. I mean, Padme was hanging. Padma was hanging off the legend.

of a cliff. If that's not baby making motivation, then I don't know what is. He saves her. If this ever happens to you, you got to go further inside before you cuddle up, do not stay cuddled up on the ruins of the building that are

like hanging by a threat. Agreed. Get to the ground and then you can be all hands on hands. Yeah, R2. Right. Right. Yeah. If like, if the tower steps plummeting into the chasm, it's just like R2, tower's plumbing into the chasm. Do you think he told Artu?

And listen, if Clovis falls, you just let him. You don't need to tell Artu that. Artu knows. Artu knows. He told him that once, like, seven years ago, and Art2 didn't need to be told it again. You know, Artu, you don't have to save everybody. And I think Artu would also quietly think that, like, Clovis punched his ticket a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, him again. Like, anyway, so, yeah, it sucks because it is like the classic, we don't have to resolve any of these problems. I mean, here we are again. They can't resolve any of the problems because return of the, Revenge of the Sith has to happen, right? So all this has to do is be a preview of Anakin slowly turning into the Anakin. We eventually see him as in Revenge of the Sith. He can't actually grow from this. No one gets to have a good conversation with him about it.

In the same way that he can never see grievous, he can never actually. actually confront his own internal issues in anything like a real way because they have to eventually consume him so he kills his wife and becomes Darth Vader like you know but we do get an inspiring promise oh yeah sure oh this sucked I can't okay so this is this is uh this is fucking uh Nick's card right this is Nick's card I think so Nick's card knows that Palpatine is the senator or is the Supreme Chancellor rather Well, knows that Cidius is. But he, but, but, but, but Cicard cedes control of the banks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To the office of the chancellor. So he knows Palpatine's true identity. Other way, Cidius is true identity. Yes. Everybody knows Palpatine is the high chancellor because that's his public name. Right. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Yes, yes, yes. No Cidius is true identity. Yes. I think. so? He's in the circle of trust like that? I mean, he's really high up there. That's right? It's never been clear to me

whether the people who talk to Sidious are aware that the fact that he's obviously Palpatine means that he's Palpatine. Like, do the trade federation people know that that's Palpatine? It sort seems like the Star Wars tends to pretend like people get fooled where it's like all I

talk to was the mysterious Sith master. Right. But like they're evidently the same guy yeah he doesn't even really hide his face on that call with embo like no no he's embo knows who he is 100% um well um my my big theory on this yeah here's my my read i think you get the call from palpatine and ducu first of all i think that they're already in on it right because we know okay pause we know that

that the banking clans are secretly allied with the separatists, like the Trade Federation, like the techno union. Like that's been there from Attack of the Clones, right? Yes. We know that that alliance happens. I wouldn't be surprised if the way this went down was a Duku called Nick's card and said, hey, get your money out of the bank. Get all the money out of the bank.

Things are going to get rocky. It's going to seem like things are going to go bad for you. We're going to get some people arrested, but you're going to be okay. you're going to be okay you're gonna you're gonna we're gonna collapse the system and then we're going into the end game and so we needed to change hands a little bit

but get your money out of there and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them you know we don't know where the money went you know Padman is like where'd the money go why can't we just get the money that was stolen back it's because Nick's card just has it in a private account somewhere like I bet he just took that payment

as part of this and or whoever the moon is the moon is at the end of this got got is cut you know and handed the bank over knowing he's still going to be there and operate it he's still going to be one of the got you know what i mean like day-to-day operations still going to be mewn so fucked up i tried to find out if it was definitely next card but it just says the mewn representative so maybe it isn't because i was trying to figure out if if i mean it's it's it's worse if it's not next card because it's it's a sadder thought that like a regular mun would be like yeah you're

we just can't take care we can't control our own okay I found I found confirmation yeah it's next card that's what I figured so I think he he might know at this point and be just deep in and part of the entire process well he's gotten calls from

from either Duke or Palpatine or Sidious rather in one of these three episodes I forget which one mm-hmm well so yeah and we end with Palpatine giving like speech basically promising that like

conjoining the concept of like a secure banking system with like Republican liberty at this point that like he does the whole like with great humility he doesn't quite so go so far

he's the same I'm humbled as he sees his like incredible power but the energy is very I'm humbled as he as he takes this on and of course once the Clone Wars are over I'll reinstate the banks the way we do them. Yeah.

But right now, during these treacherous times, we can't in good conscience allow our money to fall under the manipulations of a madman like Count Duku. Come on. And so he says, come on. Just for now, going to have to run it all the chancellor's office. But anyway, long live the republic, long live the banks. Oh, my God. He really says it. And then we get.

And everybody chance it. not Ma Mothma, who crosses her arms. And it's like, mm, mm. Beginning a long and, uh, uninfluential career of going,

mm. Mm. A good arc. Yeah, it's a good arc. It's on the list. You see I marked it as I said. I would probably, I would remove,

uh, uh, I would make, I would make, um, a friend in need. a non-bolded normal I would

bold the that's the first one in this oh and then I would I would bold rise of Clovis I would bold rise of Clovis bold and old friend you got a bold and old friend

why for the magic trick for the for the aid going upstairs and dying for the the prison pickup okay for the rise of Clovis

It's the only, like, super innocent, like... It's the most necessary one, but I think... I think, Annie, I'm so glad to see you. I guess I'm not only useful for fighting wars after all. You know, maybe I'll just leave you here. I think it's necessary. Let's do it for Tecla. No, no, no, no.

Let's do it for Tecla. I see, I see. Yeah, Tecla deserves. We need to deserve the Tecla-Manao arc of Clone Wars. We need to wrap up here. I'm with you that, like, the heart of this is not Crisis at the... heart or an old friend it is the rise of clovis that's the most important one but in terms of like arcs we left on this shit this one gets to step i'm sorry about the next one though

i'm trying to figure out does does bank or two end up getting killed with all the other separatist like leadership oh in in revenge of the sift yeah i can't i can't see if i i haven't found them in any of the shots of like their whole like see the roundtable room on mustafar yeah yeah they're evil meeting room it's so funny where they're like their slaughter pen effectively where it's like well we've lost the war and like

effectively city is like oh just like it'll be cool just go like hang out in this place all stick together now and don't go anywhere no bathroom breaks yeah I don't know if they're there in Mustafa that's a good question well they're not getting their banks back

no definitely not Uh, next, next time, episodes, we have, is this the first time they've done this? The Disappeared Part 1 and 2, instead of giving different titles? Uh, wait, I think there was a part 1 and part 2 before, hold on. In a while ago. Yeah, let me see. I'm mousing. No, this is the first time they've done part 1, part 2.

wild oh I guess they've done like repeated words yes like malevolence they've reused you know in the blank of malevolence but this disappeared part one in part two and then the lost ones oh this is okay so it's all three of them together

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please rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and hey long live the banks fuck okay wait wait wait wait wait wait we are wrapping up just as this NFL game is going to halftime

and the Mandalorian season 3 official trailer is dropping oh my God I'm not ready for this are we ready do y'all are y'all i'm nervous oh yeah uh i'm going to share on my screen with it does that make sense yeah yeah yeah no one needs to be linked up okay all right all right it's lined up ready yeah yeah any hopes any dreams any fears not to see bobefit you're dreaming you dream not to see him you're not you don't i'm dreaming not to see him yeah you're afraid if he shows up but with tim of the oliphant comes with him then i'm okay with it that's okay yeah then he

He can come. Then he can come if he comes with him. Yeah. Cadbane, yes. I want to see more of that crazy space station city. Oh, yeah, that place is awesome. That place rules. Take us back to that meat house.

Yes. I guess spoilers for Mandalorian stuff potentially here. Because we've watched Mandalorian season one and two by ourselves over the years. This will probably have some Mando season. It's a season three trailer. You know what I mean? Like, it's going to have to talk about it. we have we have not covered this uh covered mandolore on amca officially but correct you know

but we'll get there maybe one day okay ready yes three two one go whoa that's true that did happen at the mandolarians damn they got a hell of mandolarians yeah they got all sorts of colorways trying to get the ice cream orange the cream sickle mandolorean armor color way true Grogo is going to learn that yeah

baby yo is going to be a Mandalorian oh it's that it's one of those motherfuckers ew who's that that was grief carga that was grief carga yeah that was extreme destiny vibes

there's the armorer okay Oh That's what I go Yo Mandler is all fucked up One of the dome cities Yep

Yep yep yep Yep they need to be there Yep Yep I forgot about the new ship Caves yes Yeah we're out saying we're out here in some caves Oh what

That was a lot of lightsabers That was more lightsabers than they normally are in this show. A lot of droids, too. That was a battle droid. Babu fric is that? There's Bobby Frick. What is this? Okay.

Yes, let's go. I love when the baby is epic. Sometimes the baby gets epic. I'm going to loop it. We can talk. Okay, yeah, let's talk about that. I'm going to turn my stream volume. So I do love everyone has got their like,

uh, they're like raid gear. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. This is a hundred percent. This is the raid party. Everybody in the raid party right here.

You're exactly right. That's so funny. They look sick. They look really good. Well, and his buddy has done the entire, the whole like Lando thing of like, I have ascended. Oh, he runs this place now. Yeah.

So now I got my cape. My Appalettes, gold gray, and all sorts of bullshit. Jump ahead to that. Yeah, what is this place? This place is sick. Is this Mandel? No.

There's too many black people here. That's true. And aliens and... That was the, like, the guy who's giving out founties. He's like the Founties leader. Oh, you're right, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who, like, he ends up being homies.

He ends up actually siding with Mando in the end and all that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what is that? statue yeah that's that's a foot on a stormtrooper or a clone trooper helmet oh my god it's like a droid foot what is this place what is this place I want to know what's going on here uh what else we got going on we got rain it's rainy it's armore yeah best car yeah he's not going to camino oh if he goes to camino that would be so sick he's not going to go to camino this looks so Mandelor looks so good wild

I'm guessing this is Mandelor Yeah this is Mandelor Yeah, this is Mandelor For sure And then this Droids, a lot of droids in here A lot of droids in here You know people watch and it's going

Now this is Star Wars Not Andor You know All these droids all these aliens All right Captain Carson Tava Oh that's one of the That's the like state trooper Where is this?

Is this Corrosan? I think this is Corrosan Maybe That's is that the This dude in the in the open air. Is that one of the mad scientists? That's the mad scientist in like the beginning of the show

who wanted Grogu, right? Oh, yeah, good point. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So I'm cute, okay, he's back. They're doing some shit. I had some caves, some old helmets. Okay. Sad Grogu flashback.

Sad Grogu flashback. Sad Grogu flashback. You're right, you're right, you're right. Absolutely, yeah. Because we've seen this before, haven't we? We've seen something like this, yeah. Like a Grogu flashback with this? the thing we've seen most directly about it

is that thing from Visions about the pop band I feel like we saw I feel like we saw them escape from the Jedi Temple. Oh my God. That's true. Yeah. Oh, he's a big old tie fighter battle here.

This is fun. I like that new ship a lot. All right, here's this where we got to pause at. Oh my God, bad on the way. At a bar. Yes, hold on. That's not R2, but it's two different Astromack units. They're at the hookah spot. they are living it up I love this for all of them

I want if I could be in Star Wars I want to be there you know we're about to get bait and switched with this you know it's going to end up being not as good as we want it to be I know this like droid it's droid rights time it's happening it's happening on Mandalorian it's not going to happen

these are a Mandalorian like combat drop yeah this rules this is that is this is mandolars this looks like Death Watch storming that cool town that his buddy wants. Yeah.

Look at this man. Look at this guy with this big heavy armor. Is that, could this not be, I need to rewatch Mandalorian. It's been a while.

But could that big guy not be the guy that Mandalorian like fights for the Dark Sabre? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be that guy. You're right. I forgot about that dude.

Yeah. And then we get Grogu fighting this like monster of the week. God, what is this? I'm sure that will be absolutely nothing. Right, it has to be a little nothing guy, like a bounty hunter who's like, I'm trying to pause on the frame there he is.

Yeah, do we know that race or is it just weird? This is like, what if you have one of the like Yeti guys from that early arc in Clone Wars? Yeah. And then also they have the eyes from the Destiny Lady. What's the Destiny Lady with the green eyes? He's like the high eyes. Not a sire, no. No, what is her fucking name?

Oh my God. All the Destiny heads are yelling at us right now. I'm sorry. Blindfold Oh, no, Ares Moorne. Eris Morn, yeah. Kind of got the Eris Moran Hive Eyes thing going on here.

This is like the swamp version of those Yeti. Like, you know, there's no Yeti, this is swamp Yeti. Yeah. But Grogu's like not bothered. Grogu's like, go out of here. Grogu's still using the forest.

Grogu has a very like, you know, I had to do it to him type of look. Yeah, he's like... Yeah, a little smirk. Step back. Maybe we're going to get on like Grogu's ego streak. You know what I mean? It's like Grogu's confidence

I like that. You know what? I'm feeling like sectarian war among the Mandalorian sex is about to unfold here. Because you got him, you got, you got, uh, Mando surposing the question, what are we, who are we? And Death Watch has already answered that question. Yes, we are a militaristic cult of death. So, you know, but isn't he fucking with like Bocatan in them? Yeah.

No, they helped him carry up a heist. right that was it that was as far as it went but like they were obviously different so who are these other mandoloreans that he's hanging with well that's the thing it seemed like it seemed like bocatan was like the suck that you're in is like mid and like not with us and like they're like fanatical and i don't know what's up with but he's not with them anymore either so who are these who are these well he's like on this secret mission for them so he's still aligned with sorry i'm not sure how aligned he is with his old faction Like, the way the whole Dark Sabre fight shook out, I'm not, like, it felt like it was kind of, uh, quits with them as well.

Yeah, I think he's like, like a solo guy at this point, but both the time. But he's with these other people at the beginning of this. So like, who are they? And also, like, he's going to Mandelor to appease her rule. Like, she was like, go to that cave and so well for, forgive you. Oh, you're right. I forgot that she sent him on that mission. She was like, if you go to Mandelor and, like, recover us, whatever.

It's his punishment for, like, removing his helmet in front of Broughoo or whatever. Oh, right. That was the breach. You're right. So that is the cave. This is the cave. This is he's going to confront his whatever's. Yeah.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. All right. I figured out season three. Yeah. Sounds good. All right.

Now, season four predictions. All right. We should end this podcast now. What do we say at the end of a podcast? Good night. Babu Frick is back. Can I just be honest I don't care

We don't care I don't I don't give a fuck about this little guy I never did I don't care I don't care intellectually I see There's like a

But I love to see a little freak Yeah It does something for me I just enjoy the story so much That like what was it? Spielberg got really hung up On like the fate of Babu Frick Was it Spielberg

That's very funny That's very funny funny. You know, I'm happy people have Babu Frick in their life. He's the only breath of fresh air in that entire movie. And it was like too. It was like too. It was like too. It was probably fitting with like we're doing another cute little guy thing. I do, I did feel

like he fit perfectly with how like. He's a cute little guy. But like I need more. He's going to have his bro. He's going to have his characterization of Babu Frick incoming. This is a Babu Frick prequel because this shit happens before. This is how we've made. This is very fucked up

Dave full of your brain Bobu Brick origin story Oh my god Is Mandelorian going to start Like linking shit to The Ray saga? Yeah

I think that's what all this stuff like That like Republic State Trooper Keeps being like there's stuff happening out here Yeah Right right right right Oh it's the first order going to be in this season? Are we really going to get at the beginning of the first order?

Don't do that. Mid, mid, mid, mid, tomato, tomato. But what if we see Kylo Red training somewhere? We're not, because we actually know that that school isn't built yet. That's what's like beat, right? Luke is building that right now. Right. Luke is a child still.

Luke is very young. Okay, Luke is not a child. No, but he's like in his late 20s probably. Yeah, Luke is rocking the Chanel boots. Like, Luke is grossed. Yeah, he's in the Chanel boots. But. So, yeah, so then, so Kylo is still like.

Kylo's still a little bit away. A while away, yeah. Yeah. We couldn't get baby Kylo. I don't know. I don't want to. This is like. I don't want it.

I need this to be in a different universe. I need them to just be like, and the movies were fake. sure it was all a dream my actual like like the one thing star was can do to like sort of salvage the timeline is basically be like oh man that first order shit was crazy and also it took place in a relatively small corner of space right right it turns out it didn't matter that much yeah like the fraction of the republic meant that like that was two zombie regimes uh fighting the death and like the rest of the world moved on that'd be great i don't I don't think we're going to get that, unfortunately. All right. I think that's going to do it for us. Bye, everybody. Bye.

Bye. Bye, Babu. Bye, Babu. Good night, Groome. Bye, bye, Babu. That's going to be the name of it. Good night, Babu, Frick. Good night.

Droid stopping. Give them all little kiss on their forehead. Good night, battle droids. good night oh wait what was that white C3bio hold on oh my god

unbelievable the white C3PO oh yeah no no no farther back farther back further back further back farther back oh yeah it's all white

yeah yeah what is this like space grease it does have big space grease vibes this is this is it's not space grease

this is space I think you meant space grease like the musical and I was like I'm not seeing it we're sandy yeah uh-huh all right i'm ending this bye bye I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to be able to be.