A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 62: Shorts and Spark of the Rebellion (Star Wars Rebels 01 & 02)

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

We did it! We made it through the Clone Wars Legacy materials, past Solo (for some reason), and into the heart of the show that is going to take over our lives for the next year plus—or at least until Andor season 2 starts. Today we kick off Star Wars: Rebels, meeting the crew in a series of four, hijinks-laden shorts and then moving on to the two part intro that sets Ezra Bridger on a journey to... well, that's the thing, we have no idea where his journey will take him! Isn't that exciting?  Please let folks know that this might be a good point to hop on board the AMCA train, get yourselves ready for the bevy of upcoming Star Wars material that is seemingly picking up where Rebels leaves off. Also, give special thanks to Ricardo Contreras, who handled the edit for this episode, and will hopefully be sticking with production duties going forward! They absolutely crushed it! Next Time: Star Wars Rebels 03-05 ("Droids in Distress," "Fighter Flight," and "The Old Masters") You can support the show and gain access to a monthly Q&A cast by going to patreon.com/civilized Show Notes Breakdown of how we're tackling the season: 1: Shorts + Spark of the Resistance  2: Droids in Distress, Fighter Flight, Rise of the Old Masters 3: Breaking Ranks, Out of Darkness 4: Empire Day, Gathering Forces 5: Path of the Jedi, Idiot's Array, Vision of Hope 6: Call to Action, Rebel Resolve, Fire Across the Galaxy   Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Ricardo Contreras (@a_cado_appears) Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)  

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zackney, joined by Ali Akampora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. Today, we are kicking off rebels, and we are going to be introduced to our wacky band of misfits twice tonight. First, in a series of shorts, focusing on each member of the group, showcasing their character and skills. And then in a two-part pilot that introduces us to the world they inhabit and what they do within it. In other words, the opening of Rebels feels a lot like an RPG source book where we see little like snippets of fiction about the character class describing just what a person like this might be and what their moveset might be. And then what kind of adversaries you might find in this wider world. and you know what I think for all that it kind of works

but we will we will dig into I guess we'll start with the the Rebel shorts with the machine in the ghost I need to summarize this before we begin because a lot happens so please bear with me okay so there's a freighter that's being chased by tie fighters and the crew of the freighter bickers a lot and they shoot them all down yeah it bangs yeah it this is the best short by a hundred percent.

Chopper is my king. I mean, yeah, the fact, my two notes, my two real important notes here for this one are, this is machine in the ghost. Oh my God, this droid smokes three packs a day. Then I'm in love with Hera. Then bickering married couple and then six question marks. We're so fucking back. I don't know that they're married.

They might just be sleeping together. They might just be in love. They might just be, like, dating. They're married in spirit. Yeah, they're married in spirit. They're married married married. You know what I mean? They've married vibes.

Yes, big married vibes. If you're dating in a crew, it's like a common law marriage. They could either be in two separate squads or in their same together. And that's like a commitment. But they have a house together effectively. And the house has jets on the back of it because it goes to places. You know what? The thing, I think the most married thing is they're starting, they're like getting a little

bit affectionate. Like the moment is upon them at the end. And it's not that they need to hide that they're in that relationship or like play it down, but it is just that like that's private time for us as a couple. And we don't do this in front of the crew, which in this case right now is just chopper the droid. But there is, uh, yeah, strong, strong married vibes. I mean, I throughout. The tweets I can't stop thinking about are, uh, making out later in the evening. Her, we shouldn't. Your son is still up. He'll be asleep soon. heard in distance. Damn, this Pepsi strong as fuck.

Chopper being like, blah, blah, blah. Which, by the way, Chopper sounds are unbelievable. It's so good. It's like Chopper has seen more than any of us ever will and just deserves our utmost respect,

but also has Cheeto finger energy. A huge grampo with energy, 100%. Can we actually, wait, can we just quickly, before we, you give me this thought, Rob, and then I want to hit the brakes for a second. I don't know. I mean, like, to me, Chopper is like if R2D2

were in the sitcom taxi. 100%. Yeah. Yes. 100%. Here, I want to just take, hit the brakes is I think the fact that we want to just jump into these episodes says a lot about how excited we are to just kick off a new,

like, micro season of our own show in a sense. And to get to know these characters and talk about them. But I would love if we did just like the slimmest bit of stage setting just in case we have new listeners, which is totally possible because I want to be shouting from the heavens that this is a good place to get on board of the show. Also, because I think there are going to be some people maybe who in this moment want other places to hear your voice, Rob Zakeney and maybe to capture some of the old energy that people might remember from previous podcasts where, for instance, three of us used to talk about media, which is no shade to Alley. You just weren't part of those podcasts. You're here now, though, and we're happy about it. Star Wars Rebels starts in 2014.

It is the unintentional follow-up to Clone Wars in some ways. It was meant as a follow-up. But it came out after Clone War Season 6 had been cut in half effectively without Clone War Season 7 at that point getting to be made, even though a lot of it had been in development. If you've been listening to the show, we've been talking about. that now for months and months and months, the kind of bad way that seven or season six got got dealt because of Disney, the Disney acquisition and then wrapping it up very quickly. And so what's important to know, I think, at the highest level is a lot of the same people

are in leadership roles here. There's a ton of background material for this show. We will be going to the Faloni zone today at least once. I just have to figure out when to hit the button on that. if you want to we can hit one of the buttons now there's so much material which is so interesting because season six had so little material but the material has changed folks this is disney ass material there is not that sense of looseness of lucas film i mean some of it still has the luceness some of it's still very cute and like it's still it's still this crew of

people, right? You know, it's still Faloni and Joel Aaron and Pablo Hidalgo is in a bunch of the shorts. And it's just like a ton of that crew is still around and still, what is, what's the other guy's name? I'm forgetting, not the sound guy, not Joel Aaron. Anyway, I have a whole list of all of these things. So there's a ton of that now. And in a way, this was the new product that was showing what animated Star Wars would be in the Disney era, right? Because Clone Wars is over. None of the other stuff has kicked off yet. Force Awakens has come out, but I don't think Last Jedi has.

Last Jedi isn't for another couple of years, right? In fact, Force Awakens is in production when this comes out. So this starts in 2014. So Force Awakens hasn't actually hit yet, but a lot of the background material for this, they're talking about, oh, and they're making such and such a thing for the upcoming movie and then this will be coming out, you know, not alongside it necessarily, but like there's a lot of like, we got to talk to the people who are making blah, blah, blah. You know, there's a behind the scenes of them building Chopper, for instance, and like,

one of the people who is like in charge of making R2 for the new series helped to design chopper for real, like in the physical space. There's a physical chopper video we're going to have to watch at some point. They made Chopper. A Chopper went on a world tour. A world tour? Yeah, you'll see. Is he coming back?

I don't, I don't know. No, you got to Philly and they beat the shit out of them. It was in all the news. It's worth saying for people who have no idea what Rebels is about. As we kind of just heard, it takes place in the era of the empire. It's a story about a crew of... I don't know that we can really say what it's about yet. Like, I think what, like, part of this...

Yes, we can. It's about tie fighters, which is the thing that they hit again and again in the background material. Hey, we got to evoke the empire before. We got to foreshadow. stuff with the rise of Tarkin, with the architecture of the Citadel arc, the stuff with the prisons towards the end of Clone Wars. We are going to be speaking as if you've watched Clone Wars by now. Also, we're not going to be like spoiler-free for Clone Wars. This is a continuation in many ways. So expect us to talk openly about that if you're a new listener, which I think is fine. I think generally speaking, you should go watch that stuff and then catch up with us. But they did say they were excited about being able to like put

the Empire on the screen for the first time because they'd never been able to directly touch a Star Destroyer or a Tie Fighter which is why I think all four of these shorts are about blowing tie riders up. They are so excited by that. I'm trying to do. There's any of their big picture stuff

worth saying again, it's a Faloni run show but there are two new executive producers on it, both of whom got their own behind the scenes videos. Greg Wiseman and Simon Kinberg are both executive producers. Wiseman, I think the biggest Wiseman claimed to fame is that he created Gargoyles

in the 90s for Disney, right? Gargoyles was this like adventure, you know, after school show, kind of part of the Disney afternoon that felt like one of those shows like Batman the animated series or X-Men that was like taking kids seriously and letting them have access to stories that were a little more complex.

They had things like continuity, they had villains who had interesting motivation, They had heroes who made mistakes. They often dealt with the mythological and the historical, et cetera. And the second person is Simon Kinberg, who... I know that name from a lot of Clone Wars credits, don't I? Kinberg, I don't know... I know Kinberg from, unfortunately, being the writer on some bad movie, including the X-Men,

bad, some mediocre X-Men movies like Last Stand and Days of Future Past, Triple X State of the Union But produced some stuff That's kind of better Produced Logan Produced Logan Jumper which he also wrote

He produced a bunch of stuff That I don't think is that good Jumper had good ideas Jumper had all right ideas I'm not you know produced Elysium Also a movie that had okay ideas But was kind of mid Produced Chappie

You know that's Chappie So we wouldn't have gotten that So a slightly different creative team there And then also, Kerry Beck is another co-creator who is the VP of Animation and Live Action at Lucas Film. And then I think produced Rebels isn't in a lot of the background material, but like, again, there. And then it's a Faloni. It's Faloni's baby. And an important name I didn't say, George Lucas.

This is not a Georgia Lucas show. George Lucas is not in the writer's room. George Lucas saw the first episode of the show a week before the debut apparently according to one of the behind the scenes feature ads now also according to some of the behind the why why is that

he sold it to Disney it's not his anymore we're in the Disney era right so he is not there what if he did like that Miyazaki thing where it's like an offense it's an affront to all living things he saw it he says he liked it okay now there is one thing that

changed because anybody we're not there yet but are there any guesses from the first two-part episode that we're going to get to in 20 minutes or an hour or two hours because I know who we are um there's one thing that changed about that episode does anybody have any thoughts about what it would be what Lucas would have done something with Vader ding ding ding a hundred percent right let's fucking go the opening scene with Vader and the inquisitor was that added was added after Lucas saw the original version. Okay, because that felt so, like, not a part of the, it felt like, yeah. Now, they probably had it animated from a future episode already.

I will also just say this. When I heard that voice, it turns out I don't accept invitations. Like, it's like, oh, yeah, like the Vader voice is easy to do. My man, that was James Old Jones. I know. Oh, oh, I thought you're going the other way. I thought you were saying. No, no, no, no.

No, that's like, no, like, I sat all the way. I was like, wait, hold on. Sorry, this wasn't cartoon, Lord. That wasn't cartoon Darth Vader. No, that's real Darth Vader. That's real Darth Vader. He's here. Here he is.

There he is. He's on my TV. He's big. He's enormous. Here he is. Uh-huh. So I think those are some important, like, big picture things. It does have a really interesting cast.

We can go over the cast maybe as we go through these shorts because the people who act, a lot of these people have broader acting chops than just voice acting in this particular cartoon. Are there any other big picture things that are worth hitting on this? Well, I'm curious if like the first Filoni zones that you're thinking you're taking us to, like,

I'm kind of sitting here and I'm curious, what is the concept of the series? Why does it look this way? Why does it have this vibe? Okay, do you want to go to a Faloni zone? I would love it. How early do you? Yeah, let's go to the first one. Let's go to the first Faloni zone. This is... And hey, for new listeners, Austin, what's a Faloni zone? It's when we listen to our Manday-Feloni-Spick game. Traditionally, they were feature DVD-featurettes.

We, okay, here's the other thing. We are in a moment of the vibe shift has occurred. Just as it's occurring in real life right now, as we're on the end of a vibe shift, as we entered the 2020s and the 2010s give their last breath as media industries suffocate and die and people lose their jobs. And a new presidential cycle begins,

election cycle begins. there had been a vibe shift between Clone Wars and Rebels because the Clone Wars Dave Filoni featureettes are Filoni zones of past, of lore, of your end lore, were DVD featureettes. They were things that you had on, and no one has DVDs. It's 2014.

No one's buying DVDs. No one's, except for Rob Zackney, buying DVDs anymore. Collectors only, you know, real ones only. I was looking up if it's worth buying a Rebels Blu-ray or something like, they have any good shit. Here's another wild fact about this. This show starts on October 3rd, 2014. The DVD hit Walmart on October 3rd, 2014 for the opening two-parter.

They sold it the day it dropped. So Disney is involved. This is real money. Now, does the show get the real money? No, people guess that it has about half the budget per episode that Clone Wars did. Clor's episodes are about a million an episode. The estimations people have are about 500,000 an episode on Rebels. kind of tell that to some degree. I still think it looks pretty good. We'll talk about that

as we go. But let's talk about, let's watch something from before even there was anything to watch. This is the Rebellion begins from May 20th, 2013, a year before the show comes out. So this is what I mean when I say. It's a different promotional strategy. You know, they are out here. Well, I just have to say, like, the reason we all like, we all like, well, does your mind and we talk about the Filoni zone is I would say the early ones have a vibe. where it's like if you went down to your kitchen in the middle of the night and you turned on the light

and Dave Faloni was there like rummaging through your fridge and then started telling you about the show he's working on the episode you just watched to like cover up the fact that he was like stealing your leftovers that is the vibe of all his feature outs

100%. And he's wearing a cowboy hat and he's wearing a cowboy hat an important note some of these dip into that vibe a little bit but by and large they're much more buttoned up There's an entire series called

It's called like something Rebellion. What is it? Rebels Recon is what it's called. And that is hosted. That's a hosted weekly behind the scenes featurette for web, right? Again, all of this stuff is for web. The stuff is for YouTube. The vibe shift just happened.

We're off featureats. We're on YouTube.com. I'm going to count us in on The Rebellion begins. This is how Dave explains. the ship for the first time to the world. Three, two, one, go. Hey, Star Wars fans. I'm Pablo Hidalgo, and I'm here at this is a rock ranch

today, because we got word that we could finally talk about the new animated Star Wars series that's in development here. So I'm going to track down our good friend, Dave Filoni, and ask him all about it. So come on, let's go. Dave. Looking quite fast. Pocoon, plocoon, Puckoon, Puckoon, put the internet. I brought the internet. Dr. Doom, which they can show now

because it's Disney. Take a mobile. No hat. Yes. Where are we right now? are we right now? What happens? Like, where are we with others? Oh, it's amazing. So many things have happened. Our characters have been on so many. Oh my God. Dave's back, baby. So you're not going to tell me where we're. No, you're not going to get to see it either. He knows quite a bit. It's very nice. He's trying to be your friend, but he knows a lot more. I'm trying to get information for you guys here. So this is a whole new era to get into in between episodes three and four.

Yes, the opportunity to work in the era that I grew up with, you know, even though it's precedes that era. This show will precede episode four is still tremendously exciting because this visual language is now open to us and very directly what Ralph McPherson is now open to us in a way that we could never exploit on Clone Wars.

Classic Ralph McQuarrie art. It's a few degrees off of where it was in episode four because it's concept art. That's right. When you use it in Rebels, it's going to be a few degrees off of episode four because that's where we are in the timeline. Yeah. We said what if this was CG. What if he's painting

just pop them off. He's rubbing his hand over an art book. What if this was CG? I love it. It's the foundation of CG animation. So let's talk about some of the folks who are joining you on Star Wars Rebels that you had worked with already. Killian Plunkett, who was my

design lead on Clone Wars, is on this new show, which is really exciting for me because I mean, he knows Star Wars inside out. He nipicked every little detail. I remember him. What are you looking? Nothing, never mind. That's fine.

What's wrong with it? Nothing, it's fine. Are you counting the spans? No, I was counting the number of window pan. Is that Donald with a storm trooper? Also, Joel Aaron, another key component of Clone Wars. Look at his shelf. You know, my wizard, if you will.

I want to go as far as really trying to get the hat's on a little pole. He has his hat up on the shelf. He's hung up his hat. And then that feeling. The hat is resting. The hat is resting. Also, a sketch of Asoka with a double-bladed lightsaber in the back. What's going on?

A new hope. Also working on the show, Greg Weissman, the name that's known very well from animation fans. That's right. Well, Gargoyles. Greg, you know, back in the day, for Disney television, it was one of the first real action-adventure shows that I had seen them do. I'm really excited that Simon Kinberg is involved in the show. It's pretty exciting. I know.

I mean, I have to say. We've heard his name attached to Star Wars projects. Now he's consulting on episode seven, he's working on his own stand-alone film. That's right. Big movie guy. I know. That movie didn't get made. I get so excited about just what we're talking about.

We haven't even really gotten to it yet in a lot of ways. But, you know, just sending him images and then him getting inspired off an image of the set. You got a thanks credit on Rogue One and Force Awakens and that's it. I think the fans are going to see the payoff when this show is. That's. Uh-huh. So that's where we start, right? Very broad.

Very big, very, you know, out there. How deep do we want to go? Because there are truly, I sent you all a. screenshot. There's so many. They're making so much content for this. And we can't go through all of them. And some of them have light spoilers on them in the sense of like, this character knows this skill, a thing that they haven't shown yet that connects them to another character that I don't want to spoil. And so some of those I might draw out at throughout the season. I don't think anything could, like, dude, the splash art on Disney Plus appears to spoil the shit out of quite a bit

of this show. Yeah, I just, my eyes are closed, head empty. Yeah, just avert your eyes. But the, did he say it proceeds episode four? Like, this is post-Yovin? No, the pre-seeds episode four. This is, this is the same, we're in Andor timeline. This show takes place on the five years before a new hope.

It's the same era as Andor. Oh. I thought we were between Clone Wars and episode three. No, we're between episode three and episode four. The Empire exists. We're post-revenge of the Sith. Darth Vader's around. Oh, okay.

We're going to see the Holocaust. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Order 66 happened, right? Hey, everybody, we can get married now. Yeah, well, we'll get there. We can go, so the other, here are the other options that we have, just again to show you what's available.

The Empire returns, which is them talking about their joy, getting to do Empire stuff again, and some brief mentions of other crew that are involved. Meet Greg Wiseman and meet Simon Kinberg. I don't think we need to watch those. Their executive producer interviews. Kind of funny stuff about them being like, what's your favorite Star Wars movie?

What's your favorite? Both of them say Empire. I was going to say, I bet they say Empire Strikes Back. I will say Greg Wiseman says that his favorite character is Chewy, which I think is rare. It's rare to get a Chewbacstan. And he describes him as being Little John,

to Hans Robin Hood, which again is not a comparison you get a lot, but totally fits for me. I hadn't thought about that. But yeah, okay. Yeah, I get it. Both of them talk about how exciting it is to show the birth of the Rebel Alliance. Greg Wiseman says that it's tremendously exciting for him to finally show that story, how they came to be.

He always wanted to work on, he said he always wanted to work on comics. I know actually the other guy says, I always wanted to work on comics. I always want to work on Sherlock Holmes, and I always wanted to work on Star Wars, and now I've done all three, which is like a funny slash cute thing. The other guy said, there's something so appealing about the beginning of the rebellion. The American Revolutionary War, it's any rebellion anywhere around the world. They're very inspiring stories.

The hope and dream is the experience of rebels, is similar to the experience of watching the original trilogy for me the first time as a kid. And there was like a hedging when he was like, any rebellion around the world. I couldn't tell if something was deleted from that interview where he named a second non-American revolution or if he realized he couldn't say too much more without stepping into something. Maybe he's a comrade, maybe he said Cuba.

That would be great to me. Now, that would be ideal. I have my doubts. We could watch meat chopper, grumpy after Mectroid. Yes. I know what everyone's thinking. Austin, you have a podcast to do. Why are you watching videos?

this is the podcast that we do. This is Meat Chopper, grumpy astromec droid. Ready? Yep. Is it being broadcast properly? I mean, it isn't. The full screen is fucked up.

What happened here? Nope, stop. Go back. Okay. Here we go. Three, two, one, go. This is important because people can hear chopper. What can I say about chopper?

He's grumpy. Oh, this is important. He's a little rickety astromec made up of a bunch of different spare parts because our rebels can't even afford the nicer new parts. He likes to do things the way that he wants, not necessarily the way the crew wants or as fast as the crew we like, but he gets a job done, and he's incredibly loyal. The easiest way to sum up Chopper that we took to on the writing team is

if Art 2 is your favorite dog, Chopper's a cat. He's extremely belligerent. I see it. I see it. He's really only useful if it seems to suit him. He's not super thrilled to be. I don't know certain things. I don't know.

He's always just growing up. No, we've only seen a little chopper. He's not a sunny disple. He spent that whole short doing emotional labor. I think the biggest difference between Chopper and Ortu is that Ortu actually cares whether or not you like him, whereas Chopper doesn't care at all. Half the time he doesn't even do what he's asked to do, he just decides to go off and do something else.

It's like he was never trained or programmed or in any way, you know, school at all. He just has no matter. They don't understand this. Clearly we understand Chopper better. What is with slander? That just kind of is a little more dismissive of people. What's this beat? You'll hear all kinds of little remarks.

God, the way he flexes, ugh. Rough kind of sounds. He always sounds cantankerous. I guess ultimately he still means well. You just, sometimes it's hard to tell. One of the things that's always challenging about designing anything for Star Wars is have it be somehow fresh and new. In the case of Chopper,

Fresh and you actually meant even more old and beat up than the stuff we saw in episode four. So we very consciously went all the way back to the original Ralph Macquarie concepts for Or Two. We looked at the head arm articulation thing from way, way back, and knew that was something we wanted to do. One of multiple pieces of Macquarie art that they lean on here. He's built from all these different parts.

There's not one part of him that is original. That's part of his strength is that he's so... That part killed me. Uh-huh. He's like banging his head on the side. Than the newfangled ones are. I think people are going to enjoy Chopper, mainly because he keeps saving the day

and people sort of forget the huge mess that he made earlier. I have an important piece of information about Chopper that this doesn't relate to us. Does anybody know who, first of all, Chopper's designation is C110P, and it's 1-1-1, which looks like an H. That's why it's Chop. Ah, I see.

Right. Does anyone know who voices Chopper? Any guesses? Who voices the beeps? Yeah. No. No guesses? Um, oh.

Did you remember a thing, Allie? I googled characters before, and I remember seeing someone's face and not internalizing what. We're not going to have a Nolan North appearance here, are we? We are not? On Rebels, they wrote out all of Chopper's dialogue so that Blank could perform it. Which is also a fun, a fun note. So, all, Chopper has dialogue so that, like, it's written dialogue. Chopper is saying sentences.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I think it's like, what is he saying? And then how is it interpreted by the actor? And the actor could only be one person, the true interpreter of all Star Wars. Dave Filoni is chopper. What? This guy needs to be stopped. I meant the guy, I meant the guy, the guy, the guy.

I said you met, you met Anthony Daniel, and I got you. Yeah, uh-huh. But it would be funny. I mean, when you said the translator, I was like, that's C3, what he does. I was thinking of Anthony Daniels, too, and you're like, no. Yeah, that's the, no. Okay. Dave Filoni

So Dave Filoni is reading Fuck Right Yeah There are times And chop and Chopper sounds Like he's like Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

And I'm so sure That's what's written on the page And Dave's like Brum bum bum bum Or whatever It's so good That's amazing Oh that's great

All right Do we feel like that's enough Should we save Real Life Chopper for the future? Yeah Yeah I love that So there's

Just so you know There's one of these For every major character including some of our villains. So we'll get to those as the season goes on, I think, along with the lot. We'll probably go back to the floaty zone at least once today. So going back to the first short, The Machine and the Ghost. Yes.

One thing I did know was like just how much it feels like original Star Wars. And what I mean by that is there's the shot of the two Thai fighters swooping across the screen. But it's a lot like the shots in the movies where like there was no sense of like speed necessarily, but there was a lot of motion. because they're models being swept across in front of a camera and they don't have to do that. We've seen in like the Clone Wars,

you can have like space battles with a tremendous amount of feeling of depth and you are moving through a space and the camera is following ships that have like high forward velocity. Yep. This show isn't doing that. It's doing the thing where

we get the lingering shot of the ships swooping by each other. Like the flyby the Thai fighters do on the, on the freighter is so slow like the sense of like forward speed is really slowed down so you get the sense of like the ship's always being close

filling each other's like windows with the and and they are doing the like we will keep cutting back to the shots of the imperial pilots in their fighters and like doing their whole like adjusting their little knobs and trying to get those pesky rebels. It's all like very consciously mimicking everything we

see from the scenes, the space battles where the Millennium Falcon is involved in the first movie. Yeah. We also get a good sense, I think, of the ghost, which is the name of the ship here, pretty well. It's a small vessel. Obviously, this gets maybe cleaner in the two-parter episode we get to eventually, but, like, it's smaller, it feels smaller than the Millennium Falcon, but bigger than, like, an X-wing. You know, like, it has, it has quarters, it has a turret, it has a hallway, it has a fairly sizable cockpit that, like, a bunch of people can go sitting.

in in the Millennium Falcon sense. And, you know, the story of this literally is just Hara, our Twilic pilot, and Canaan are mysterious leader type. I don't know, Hara kind of feels also leaderish in this crew. There's a real mom and dad to the crew vibe. It was interesting that he calls her a captain at one point, and she calls him fearless leader. So I feel like there is no, like, leader of this crew.

They vote on something later, in fact. right whether they should do a thing so yeah or it's like the whole like classic setup where a mercenary or privateer captain is commissioned by someone to like go like but they it's still their ship but the mission is being led by the client and so there's a weird like in all matters of the ship right I am the authority she would say not on my ship but he might say not on my mission or something yeah right um uh and so they're The shields are down. Harrah tells Chopper to fix the shields, but then Canaan wants something else to get fixed instead.

Or Harat tells Chopper fix the comms and Canaan says fix the shields. And eventually Chopper says, fuck it. I'm going to get on the back turret and get the final shot. And it sounds like he says literally fuck it at some point. Like MK and I looked at each other in the middle of that and looked at each other like, did that dry say fuck this? They're getting away with it, man. They are. I think something else, and we'll get into this more as we go forward, but like, I have seen lots of clips of this show on YouTube and on Twitter and, you know, social media in general.

There are certain things that I did not realize about its visual language. Most importantly is the sort of speckled or spattered texturing that's all over most things. It's not everything. Some faces aren't covered with it, but some faces are. And if you zoom in, it still looks like there's an underlying texture that is like pointil, pointillist, like that it is modeled. It's almost like film grain, but the film grain has been turned into a layer on every object. And certain objects have bigger speckles than other ones do, more noise than other ones do. I think it's, it mostly works for me.

Yeah. It made it feel, I'd always thought about the show as like the characters looking like vinyl toys, and they mostly do. but that lifts it. And I like Vinyl Toys. Vinyl Toys is a cool aesthetic to go for, but this lifts it a little bit higher than that for me, or it gives it another touch, another, literal, another texture to play with

to help with things like characterization and making machines look a little cooler and, like, I think it's a, I like it. It's a little bit more lived in, yeah. I think something, it bugged me a little bit on the skin textures, honestly, though, because, like, it looks like realism gone wrong where it's like,

freckles and readiness to complexion that is like just like way too weird like this is not how like ready cheeks look but then you look at armor this is where I was like I stared like really hard like imperial armor and if you look really closely it's also not like a solid matte gray like you get close enough to anything in this world

it feels like it breaks down into dobs of color yeah totally I think it works best on in terms of people it works best on Zeb who you haven't gotten to yet Hera because it's a lot less like human skin and so it doesn't quite read wrong for me on them. And again, most shots, it doesn't read wrong for me on most of the human characters either. But there are some close-ups that are like, like, look at a little shaky.

Yeah, I was, I was thinking about this a lot, because the more than I noticed that it was like the same texture being used on different things, I was like, am I going to get tired of this at some point? But I like how efficiently it's using in terms of like, like, it'll be used to give like an imperial coat fabric texture that looks really good and I think it actually looks really good on Kieran because it gives his skin like almost like a or Kainan

the Kainan yeah sorry it gives him like a sun damage texture which I thought was really cool but I think that like you know the kid Zeb no Zep is the Ezra is Big Man

Zeb is OG Tubca actually one of these things that's true about this show is it's drawing a lot on the Ralph McQuarrie original art including and I'll just send this image. I'll send two images really quick. Is this like concept art that they use? This is concept art

that they use that this is concept art that predates Star Wars and is very much the like so this thing I just sent you all like that's Chopper, right? It's more R2 on the head but that's Chopper's arm and that's Zeb, right?

This is what they are going for with ship designs. This is what they're going for with Vader even. So Vader hasn't shown up in the episodes we've talked. Vader shows up the very beginning of the first episode, right? So I'm not spoiling anything there. Darth Vader is in this show about the Imperial era, kind of obviously, right? And that Vader is very much based on this Vader with like the higher cheekbones and like the more recessed eyes and stuff. Like very much they are going to the Macquarie art

over and over and over again throughout this. And it's kind of fun to see that. And I think that we get that with Canaan here feels more like sword and sorcery hero or than Star Wars, original Star Wars guy. You know what I mean? Also,

you know, he's got the ponytail. They're very much playing in the combo of like Western slash samurai film that we know Dave Filoni likes with Canaan. You know, he is, as we will come to see very much the Ronan on the run archetypes, right? But also just a little bit

classic point break bad boy. Oh yeah. I mean, there's the fact, I'm so glad. I am so glad we did a Dark Disciple before this so that we could do a Canaan Quinlan Voss comparison as the show continues. Because they are cut

from the same cloth in many ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Canaan's doing it right so far by me. Yeah. I like him. I like guy yeah one other art thing and in fact maybe let's move to the second one do you want to set up with the second sure i just want that's one last thing about chopper which is have we seen astromax kill humans in combat before like when he got on the gun and just like has art that tie fighter i mean we've we've we've seen our two kill a lot of droids we know that ig 88

and ig11 have killed people right but we're talking about biological though like this is you're talking about a human. And we know like battle droids have cut down tons of like biological beings but that's like

kind of their bag but like I feel like R2's hardest moments are like fucking up droids but have we seen an astro-mec

or a droid in this vein just be like I could just kill these people. Has R2D2 killed anyone? How many kills R2D2?

I feel like R2 is capable of it but Rob's right that like, I don't know that it's ever been explicit. But, like, all those R2 units are in all of those, like, X-Wing units, though, right? So, like... This is a thing.

Right. So, yes, they're part of that. That's true. But they aren't working the guns. They're not, like, they're, like, a navigator. They are a systems operator. But, like, they aren't flying the ship and, like, opening fire on targets. All right.

I'm going to read from May, may4 be with you. com. all right this is a list the Clone War season one R2 had had a total of seven kills was the IG 86 droid Magnigard R3S6

and four vulture droids that's all droids Season two is where the majority of R2's kills came about and this season the adorable droid racked up a body count of 1,145 the kills were as followed

and then it's 18 assassin probes a gun dark so that's a biological but not what we think of as a person commando droid 120 vulture droids together with Anakin, and then a million 125 battle droids together with Anakin. Anakin must have done some, I don't remember what happened there, but Anakin killed a million droids.

Didn't he blow up a ship or something? He probably blew up a ship, right? Yeah. Which means also he would have done that in the Phantom Menace also, right? He blew up that command ship, right? And the death star, exactly. So that's, yeah, exactly. If we're going to give him those, then that has to count. With only three casualties, Artu's kill count in the Clone War season four was tame compared

to other seasons. Those individuals were two vultra droids and the big hazoo. I do not remember the big He's the big Hizu Big Hizu is a guy That's a person Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we saw him kill that guy Elmore Leonard character

It does It's the, it's the one of the When R2 and C3Pia were like on their Little Gulliver's Travel Adventure Remember R2 steps on the guy or falls on the guy And crushes him One of the little guys Oh, the tiny guy

Oh yeah Okay, season 5 R2 killed 29 battle droids an unidentified tactical droid and 20 crew members, 20 crew members totaling 51 bodies. I don't know who those crew members are. And then this kind of continues until Star Wars 39, official comic, quote, are to annihilated approximately 43 stormtroopers, two stormtrooper guards, and an imperial engineer bringing the count to 44. So one, I would like to know what comics. we talking about and what you're

This is canon This is canon Two I would love to know What are the circumstances Like did he blow him Under their feet and kill him all I get what you're saying Or like

Is it direct Yes exactly I got you Yeah But to me it still feels like I was still kind of surprised When Chopper was like I'm an astromechroid

But you know I could just like work these guns myself Yeah I get you And he does it And then he flexed And this is where I started To think about

Remember in the 25th hour The brief glimpse we get of the Bensonhurst Italians Who are all auditioning for the Sopranos And like with their little bat and like That's the vibe I started getting from Chopper That like the chopper would be like perpetually out on a stoop somewhere When not working Oh yeah chopper chopper

Chopper is like Venice Beach Hang around the the like gym outside Chopper Chopper sits out at the basketball court never plays, but is always there. Do you know what I mean? Talking like shit all the time. But he will like, if the ball dribbles like comes over to him, he will dribble it a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe like very casually, like make a shot, make a really impressive shot, like half court shot and then sit back down. He has a 40 and a slurpy cup and he's always refilling the slurpy cup from the fort. Yes. It's some sort of rare slurpy cup. Yeah, it was a special edition, limited time only, from like 15 years ago. It's like badly faded. Yeah, it's like a Mets cup, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Or a Dolphins. He's like a Dan Marino slurpy cup, like huge late 80s. 17 and no, never, never going to happen again. All right. So Chopper. Chopper. Thumbs up.

Thumbs up. We'll have other opportunities to talk about all these other characters. Chopper, thumbs up. I love him. Now, Sabine and Art Attack. My actual first thing here is another art-related thing, which is the skies in this show. What do we think about them? Because they're so, this one is so like bold, blue, like, it feels painted in a way that Clone Wars, skies felt more, they didn't feel flat.

And I think that the flatness of these guys is a choice. Like, this feels like a backdrop from a Hollywood movie, where's clonores felt like a skybox in a video game. And I think that they're pretty good. I think that they're pretty good. I think this one a lot. There's a chase sequence coming up later. There's like a sunset behind it that I think is pretty good. I'm staying on the art tip for a second.

I just think that that's a good choice with the slightly more simplistic, like, person and environment arts. So I just want to call that out because this episode opens. on the shot of the night sky of Lothel, the planet that the show takes place on for the beginning, at least anyway, of like the night sky with the moons and like the clouds and stuff. I just think it's gorgeous. I was surprised, like, because when I saw like promotional art of rebels before this, I didn't know that it super appealed to me because like the saturation of all the characters seem sort of off and like just the color palette seemed weird. And, like, when you're, you're seeing the characters in action and in environment and, like, sort of in context, especially looking at the, um, the Macquarie art that they're going off of and the same sort of use of, like, really bright oranges versus, like, these sort of, like, brown, gray textual tones that he uses in his painting works, being carried over to the show, gives the show, like, a much more natural feel than just, like, seeing a picture of Sabine. Right.

Cibine, pictures of Sabine make it feel like it's, I mean, it's funny because when I'm about to say, the second thing I'm going to say is this is the most cartoonish Star Wars has ever been. But her design is very, her design is very, stock cartoon character. 2010. Well, to me, it's video, video game. I was like, my note here is this is the most video game-ass protagonist armor in all of Star Wars. Yes. Mine is, um, there's a quote in, there's an episode called Meet Sabine, the Explosive Artist.

There's a behind the scenes for her. And there's some fun stuff in that. We'll watch that eventually, maybe the next time we get a Sabine episode. But someone says, she's adding something in the Star Wars we really haven't seen before. And I said, and I added, oh, a pop punk princess? Because that is what she is, right? Does anyone want to describe what her look is for the listener? Well, so it's like base layer, like pink and purple,

mandolorean armor, but all of it is. covered in both dubs of paint, but then also bits and pieces of other designs and artwork all over the armor. And so that from a distance, it looks like very colorful modeled armor. And as you zoom in, there's like, like, paldron art that is also half covered by other art, but also looks kind of like cobbled together, like you finished a few destiny rays, but you don't have full sets of anything. A hundred percent.

Do we think her right paldron, her shoulder armor, that is the checkered board pattern, is indicating that she is a ska fan? Or do we think that that's unrelated? I think it is. Yeah, I think so, too. I think it is. I think it is. She, yeah, she's got the, you know, the cool neon streaks that show you are a G. Right.

We do get her with her mask off at the end of this episode. Is that right or no? Not until later. Yeah, she does. She takes the helmet off to look at her handiwork. Look at the color. Right. Right.

What is her handiwork? Can we just give the quick summary? It's like a short, uh, cropped. Oh, yeah, sorry. It's like a short cropped, uh, all black, uh, with, oh, no. I said, what did she do? What's she do in this episode? Oh, I think he said, so what is her hair?

Could you get into her hair? Like, yeah. It's, it's got the neon shrieks across the bangs. Like she's taking my space picks later. 100% is So on this planet The stormtroopers are just being Jerks to the people and we get lots of like

It opens on them throwing a guy to the ground be like He's shit nerd And then she sneaks over to their Tie Fighter parking lot And vaults the wall She's like I'm in And stands on the wall Like 10 feet away from a bunch of stormtroopers

Like as part of her stealthy insertion And then Beans tagging all their tie fighters with a bright purple like rebel symbol and it is very like the stormtroopers appear to be like very cartoon villains here which is fine uh but like we are going for no sense of threat all comic relief and there's even a bit of like there's a point where she they they sort of catch her and she's like you guys are dipshits like well if you want me to stop painting it uh why you just remove it. And then the next shot, she has moved across the parking lot. And so it's a bit of the Bugs Bunny, like can appear at any place and time. They do throughout all of these, especially these shorts, which are, they're shorts, right? So to some degree, there's a history of shorts being leaning even further into Bugs Bunny and Warner Brothers cartoon type logic, right, and gravity and stuff like that. But they do the thing of like, and Clone Wars, I feel very rarely stretched it this far. But they show.

shorten certain frames of animation or certain parts of an animation. I shouldn't say certain frames. I don't know if it's actually frame by frame. But there will be like someone will stretch to outlandish proportions for a frame in order to communicate that they're really stretching around a corner. For instance, this happens in Zeb's short in a really big way when he looks around a corner at one point. She will sometimes like poke her head around a thing, like a tie fighter wing, and then suddenly

gained this incredible burst of speed from no momentum in order to get to her next point of cover. It looks like, it looks like Daffy Duck, it looks like Bugs Bunny. They are playing with that stuff in a real way. Like, it's all... Or the old insurance commercials. Mm-hmm.

Wow. Shout out to Aaron E. Shurance. She's Aaron E. Shurance. Who's Aaron E.urance? Oh, well, this is the tragic story. I was going to tell you to go ahead and do a Google search, but make sure safe mode is on. Hello?

Aaron insurance, okay, so, e-surance is still an insurance company. Aaron e-surance was their hot, pink-haired spy mascot. An invisible ink style cartoons. She does look like an invisible ink character. You're not wrong, 100%. Insurance acts as Aaron after the secret agent took on a, X-rated life of her own? People really like...

She's a baddie. And you would always see the commercials like during adult swim and shit. Whose people really loved? People, I mean, listen. I'm people. Listen, shout us to Aaron. You short, it's. Look at what they had.

Look, okay, first of all. Some of this aren't pretty good. All right, I was posted that in my work chat. So let's be careful. I think it's pretty tasteful Austin Walker This is from Heroes.fandom.com

Let's see if she just be a generic Here are pictures of heroes Did they really put her in a bikini in front of a laser? Is that real? That's real. That's fan art. That has to be fan arts.

I don't know. I don't. This is very much in the style. It's using the same visual language. I mean, that was a thing. It was a style that was easily replicatable, as you can see. This person's like, is somebody, I don't, you know what, we're just going to have to move

on from, she had like a guy back home, because here's the other thing. She was also, she was also like, um, uh, she was like cartoons from that era, but like a little more, just a little more edgy, you know? Why is Kirby on this page? Kirby's a hero. What do you mean? Why is Kirby on this page? Okay.

Kirby is here. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm so sorry. I take it back. Anyway, Sabine has Aaron insurance energy. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. She does. She does. She also gets a woo good like almost immediately when Ezra meets her. Oh my God. Ezra's such a herb. We're going to talk about Ezra. No, I know that what you're saying. Allie and Austin just a woo Aaron East Shorence, so why is it okay for us to do it, but not Ezra? And the answer is, Aaron East Shorance isn't real, and she's not in the room with us. Yeah, that's true.

If Aaron Eshawrins was in the room and I awuged her, it would be her behavior. Or she would be, like, impressed because I'm cooler than Ezra is generally. That's true. She might be into it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sorry for you, Ezra, but I'm different. also like it's we should get into it at the point

but like it's the first time that they meet each other like that is the like moment that he sees her and it's like do we need to like just pair up the couples just because we have two boy girls and once again it is also I was just going to say this is a little bit like on guitar where it's like one of these

like one of these seems a little fucking kid yes and you're going to be if you're selling me on this it's going to be a hard sell because, like, we got a little fucking kid here. I have no idea how old Sabine Wren is supposed to be. Ezra is 14. Ezra is a little baby boy, right? I think Sabine is probably also meant to be 16 or something like that, but she doesn't read

as 16. She reads as someone who just blew up a bunch of tie fighters and has been doing it for a few years, you know? So the other thing, so it turns out her little, like, spray art is also, like, explosives. and when she tricks the stormtroopers into openings all sort of like coming all coming out and they open fire and I've ever fish shots set off the detonations or she detonates the things herself but her explosives go off in a huge thing of color to show all the tie fighters and then we see the stormtrovers digging out of the rebel covered in like paint spackles and someone's

like look at that explosion she's like no look at the color and I'll say this thing leaves me a little cold here is again the whole RPG character vibes this is one of those things where someone's like, I had a great idea for a character for this campaign you're running. My character is going to do, like, they're going to have the demolition expert, like, uh, like, uh, specialty and like the, uh, feats that go with that, et cetera. But like, the little twist is they're like an artist with explosives, but also an artist. So all their explosives are going to be like paint colors. And it's going to be, and you're sitting there being like, I don't know if the universe

really works this way. Like it's, it's like, here's. my character that's going to like force the world to conform to them to make them like the coolest character that's ever been. But also, if your friend did that at the table, you would go along with it because they're your buddy. And it's clear that they're having a lot of fun with it. Here I think it's a little bit harder to swallow when it's just like the cool factor is

off the charts. Like it's huge girl power. Like we are pre. We were pre-gaslight gatekeep girl boss. Like, we haven't hit that quite yet. No, no, no, no. We're just girl bossing right now. We're late girl power, girl boss energy.

And I think that that's fine. You know what I mean? I think that she's fine. It's cool to have someone who's on the ground in this crew that is like an explosive. Like, I think that's fine. I would like to see the development. We'll see some good episodes. I would like to see another dimension to the character.

I'm curious what her Mandalorian situation is. They call out her having Mando gear. So, like, is she, what's her relationship to, to Death Watch, what's her relationship to the pacifist? What's her relationship to, like, that whole arc? Is she from a particular clan of Mandalorians? Like, are we, and I hope we get that stuff, because I think that will help flesh out some of it. Her neat being Sabine is seems coded.

It does. And if it isn't, like, if there isn't a relationship there, that's a very, that's going to be the meatest trick of day Polonius every pole. I am curious if, I mean, I'll say this. If she's a Mandalorian, she's the first character of color, Mandalorian. we've seen in this show, unless I don't remember if Jango and Boba actually are Mandalorian in the continuity anymore, I truly don't remember what their connection is, or if that's truly been answered at this point. But, yeah.

In fact, I guess... And also the name Sabine, like, evokes like the Neo-Romanism of the Mandalians and the Falloniverse in ways that's not awesome, you know, with what that name, the story that goes with that name. But really, I think this is about it had to go along with, it had to rhyme with Sotene. I suspect that that's the case, right? That's a Mandalorian name. Yeah.

For some reason. So yeah, we will, we will see how she develops, I guess. So then we go to entanglement. And I got to say, like, I keep getting, like, I guess it's a Disney show. So this maybe shouldn't be surprising. But, like, everything just feels like the most Disney-ass character possible. Like, Canaan reminded me of Phoebus from hunchback in Notre, Dame. And to me, Zeb feels a lot like beast, but also a little bit of the gargoyle dudes

in hunchback. Sure. Yep. I think Zeb is hot. I think Zeb has a lot of personality. I think Zeb. He's got big Andy circus energy. He does. He's voiced by Stephen Bloom, who also, of course, voiced Spike Spiegel and voiced his voiced Logan slash Wolverine a billion times. Stephen Bloom is all over this show, though, and that is a choice that I do not understand. Stephen Bloom voices, like, three Stormtroopers in the episode we watched. Well, I don't know. I mean, hang on. Who was the actor who did all the clones?

D. Bradley Baker? They had him doing much other stuff, right? They did, but this is a primary dude. Zab is in every episode. Yeah. You're going to have him also be random stories. I mean, he's, listen, I'm glad he got the work. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's Steve Bloom's, like, red and butter, though.

Like, he's a voice actor in. Yeah, but he's the only voice actor in the show who is also doing that. Sure. You know? You know, he's getting us bad. I just think it's hard when it's like the guy who's chasing Zeb is Zeb. You know what I mean? That gets my ears.

Sometimes I'm like, and he's doing a different voice here, quote, we tried different things for Zeb. We tried Russian and German in a few different locations in the UK, a little bit of Australian, and we ended up with an amalgamation that, to my ears, just sounded like a bad UK accent, which I think is a very funny thing to say as a voice actor. It's true. He just has kind of like, you know, UK adjacent. Yeah, he has like, yeah, exactly. Oh, he's a Jason Statham a little bit. He's adjacent Statham. He's doing it. That's what it's, yeah. Yes. And he loves to raise a ruckus. That's the soul. It's like, uh, the whole thing is he's just

got, all he has to do is go meet Canaan to do it. Just. It just has to be Canaan. Yep. And instead, he just starts messing around with Imperials, and one brawl leads to another, leads to him. Again, destroying a parked tie fighter in an alley, which seems kind of like... They get a lot of use out of these alleys. They parking these things like cars. Yeah, they are parking these things like cars.

I guess they are. Yeah, they are cops. They are just parked by Thai fighter on the sidewalk. I love this little Jogun fruit merchant. Okay. Okay, if we, if I, if we had watched this before the Q&A, I would have remembered Jogun fruit. I would have. That's why it was so well time to ask because now we'd remember.

People don't know there's a Q&A like quiz, like a, how much has Clone Wars, you know, eroded your brain quiz? And one of them was asking the name of the fruit that the droids had to go by. And also so much to learn here about like, you know, the nature of like global colonial economies in some ways because here we saw in Corrassan, the Jogun fruit, the most precious thing. This is a quest to find like the Jogun fruit merchant of Corrassant to get a couple of these things because there's such a delicacy. And here we are at the source. They're giving them away.

Well, they're taking them. Yeah. I love the little Jogun fruit merchant's Astromechdroid that has like a glass domed. Did anybody else notice? Yeah. It's so cool looking, like the see-through 90s electronics vibe of an R2. So good. And then, yeah, Zepb just beats people up.

I have a note here that's just like, bro, it's fun to have people just fucking up Imperials. Like after Clone Wars being so, and I'm sure we'll get into some stuff. I'm excited to get into some meteor things. But it's kind of fun to just have a crew that's beating up Stormtroopers. That's putting them in headlocks. It's doing vertical suplexes. It's like doing a wild-ass, you know, gun tricks on them. It's cool.

It's fun to have heroes. And they ain't nobody got a, nobody got a shade of darkness to them. Everyone's just like, right now at least, everyone's like having, none of the angst at least of Clone Wars. Zep does some shit in the full episode that we'll talk about. Yes, he does. We'll get there, which I love. And also, by the way, in the same thing, Sabine, the one thing I like about Sabine in this opening arc is when it comes time to vote about whether or not, they should go help Ezra, she votes no. And I'm happy to have that crew split down

the middle with needing a deciding vote versus having everybody to be like, yeah, let's go get them, you know? I like that there's some more grounded voices there. So we should meet Ezra. We should. In the short, property of Ezra Bridger, and my first note here is, these are the strongest Titan AE vibes imaginable. Oh. An insusient scrappy kid who's, like just a little bit of a hustler but like also again no badness to him like just a sense of like it's all hijinks as I just hustle my way through the world and finesse one situation after another but like I'm a cool punky kid like that's kind of just the the strong the strong vibe of sort of like 90s attitude era in some ways I have three comparisons for people this is a real like

Okay. Allie, do you also have these comparisons? Well, I only have one, which is because this is so Disney, I was just getting Aladdin. It's Aladdin. So Aladdin is the broadest one, for sure. Aladdin is my third one. Well, to me, the Aladdin thing explodes in the view in the opening of the next one. The next one is 100%.

There's a whiteboard somewhere that says Aladdin. They call him a street rat. They call him a street rat. He is a street rat. He is doing Aladdin shit. He just doesn't have the monkey. If he had the monkey, he would just be Aladdin. If he had like a little droid friend,

So my two other comparisons, for Gundam fans, he has huge Judah Ashtaw from Double Zeta Gundam or Jared, or sorry not Jared, Gerard, Garad from Gundam X, a deeply underwatched show. Okay. For Friends of the Table fans, he is a Keith character. He has huge Keith character energy to me, always getting his nose into things, always means well, bites off more he can chew doesn't shut up even when it would benefit him to always trying to quick talk his way through things interested in technology uh whether the technology equals uh enemy stormtrooper helmets which of which he seems to collect many that's a recurring thing here is he's always he has like three stormtrooper helmets i guess that's money that's true that's true also like the

the interesting thing about his short is because he isn't like he's the one who's not part of the crew yet. I was noticing how alone he is and that's why he's like talking to himself. And I realize, lonely. I get why you have to do that as like a script thing because you want your character on screen talking. But

I was like, is this going to be like a remaining character trait of his? Am I going to end up being annoyed by his monologues later in the series for instance? But I think it was used kind of efficiently here. but it does make him seem really young.

Yes. And then my last note on this is, oh, I don't know how I feel about the slingshot at all. I like it. It's so cool. I'm torn on it. It's an energy slingshot. Yeah.

It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. Rob is looking. Rob doesn't look, please. What's the difference between this and the Knight's Sisters Energy Bowes? They're Knight Sisters. They're Knights Sisters.

Because Leicesters, like, are, like, use dark magics, and, like, they should have energy bows. There could be magic going on. I don't know how that shit works. This is just, like, a supercharged marble or whatever. This is a marble with kinetic energy. Yeah. But he had to play. What's wrong with that?

It's cool. It's fine. I think it continues to code him Disney protagonist kid. Yeah. It's, like, his signature weapon or whatever. And also, it is one of those things where it's like, we've never seen this before in Star Wars. and so I get the abrasiveness of it. It is one of the things that marks this as a kid's show.

Is that like, oh, yeah, the kid has a slingshot. We don't want to give him a gun. That'd be too far. But let's give him a cool energy slingshot that can zap people. And like, that's fine. It's a kid show. It's a show for children. He's the audience insert, right?

Like, he's the kid. That's what makes this kind of a YA story. You're going to relate to him or Sabine, depending on how old you are as a kid. Or if you're like us, you're like, I relate to Hera or Canaan or both. Or if you're like me, you relate to Chopper Because you spend a lot of time As a kid translating, right, Rob could play Zeb I feel like you have Zeb energy

I agreed Anyway, what's he doing this short before we keep talking I just think the energy slingshot Like I imagine him like he tinkers Like he's a tinkerer He's like collected all these little goodies It's like Peter Parker making the web shooters Yeah, yeah

he's definitely got yeah which again is the thing like there's a it's a format it works like the kid he loves technology do you know who else love technology because here's the other thing Anakin Skywalker and Luke and Luke yeah right the Star Wars protagonist is a young kid

who has a who has this is the thing for me is that this is the thing about like generally I'm pretty like I enjoyed all of this I'm excited to be in this realm I'm excited to be in rebels I like all of the characters so far everyone's cool this is the most like star like star wars

show like this is really leaning with the star wars like move like first foot forward is the star wars foot forward um if that makes sense like i feel like everything is very like the all the formulas you've plugged in what you needed in every piece and i'm excited to see how they innovate from there, but the setup is very much everything you love about Star Wars is in the show. We've got aliens. We've got monsters. We've got a Chewbacca type. We've got a, you know, we've got a Jedi. It's another run on Star Wars. It is like, it is, there is a money and falcon stand in, there's a pilot, there is an old Jedi master, there is a young kid. It's the sequel trilogy like it is like you're starting out with with all of your major players you're you've

established the crew um you've established the bad guy Darth Vader is here like everyone is here and we even have a new Darth Vader in the Inquisitor who seems exactly going to be the primary antagonist for at least a while the thing that I wanted to say there was so like one the thing that it gives me the most vibes of is coming home from Toys R Us or electronics boutique with a freshly wrapped Star Wars video game from the 90s or the 2000s

when there was only really the OT in the 90s and you got Sega CD games and N60, you got Shadows the Empire or you got Rebel Alliance or Rebel Assault or you got

X Wing, the X-Wing game Tie Fighter where you're like, I'm going to, someone has elbowed out a little bit of room here, Dark Forces or Dark Horses too.

For someone who's like the characters I already love from Star Wars, But they have their own little version of that story that goes a little differently. And they're maybe a little grittier or they're a little funnier or they're a little, whatever it is, right? Because they're not actually a Star Wars movie, so they're going to be like a little bit off. And at the time, I got tired of that by the mid-2000s, right? Like, by the time you're in the prequel game releases and you're getting like the Django Fet bounty hunter game, which was mid as hell, and you're getting like Jedi Starfighter 2 or whatever, you're like, I get it.

some other shit is happening while the main story is happening and it's never going to matter because we're stuck in this timeline that we can't get out of anymore. I don't care. Now in this era, I'm actually kind of excited about that feeling. I'm a little nostalgic for that feeling of being 13 and being like, whoa, what's this other thing happening in Star Wars? And I think a big part of that I'm going to save until we get to talking about who Canaan is and what Canaan's deal is at the end of the next episode. What happens in Property of Edger Bridger, which by the way, I keep one to say... He wallet inspector is a crash Tyfighter pilot.

He 100% does. Tie fighter crash lands. He goes up. Because it's chasing the ghost. It is chasing the ghost. You're right. So this is actually their first encounter technically. He pops the top on it, hops down into it, and starts robbing the guy blind in front of him effectively.

He's like, oh, you're hooked on this thing. Let me just, let me unhook this, you from this data module slips the data module into his own pocket. You know, a lot of this here. But then the key is, like, the Thai pilot isn't sure what is going on until he hops out and is like, also, I wasn't helping you. Uh-huh. I was robbing you, dipshit. And this is when the Thai pilot, but this is, like, it is important because this is where the Thai pilot realizes he's made a fool of. And the way is, his, is, like, fighter crashed is, like, belly down, guns still pointed forward.

and Ezra's in front of the ship and he grabs the controls to open fire on the kid and Ezra's back is turned and a split second before the Thai pilot can open fire Ezra looks up

and like warps out of the way and Ty pilot is like that's impossible and then opens fire and then the slingshot see I do like the thing about the slingshot I like the way he lobs

the last shot up and in like a like a three pointer to hit the guy inside the cockpit. That's cool. Yeah. I think that's cool. Points to Allie and Natalie on this one.

I'm back around on the slingshot. We're having fun physical effects. We are. But Natalie, you didn't like him sassing the pilot? No, I just shut up. No. I have a really important.

Just do it. It's so much cooler. It's so much cooler not to say it out loud. And this is points to him being a kid. As he grows up, I hope that he learns the art of subtlety. but I will take it for now. Natalie is hoping he learns the art of subtlety

and Natalie is hoping that he would get enough socialization that he stops narrating his scenes. His scenes like a Minecraft video. Like, oh, this is good. I love it. We have not even started rebels and we're all like, maybe he'll grow out of it. I would watch his Minecraft channel.

I would watch it. He would be such a good streamer. He would be such a good Minecraft YouTuber. He would give us all of the tips and tricks to get to the Ender Dragon. Really fast. I just think he would be great. Can I have a thing that I want him to do?

Yeah. And this is not his fault. Oh. This is just how the show looks. He's got to cut his hair. I can't do hair tendril. I can't do, he has seven hair tendrils that are each supposed to be a bunch of locks of hair. Do you know what I mean?

Oh. He has the thing where like he moves and this huge amount of hair moves like it's a solid gelatinous strand. That's, like, the size of a baby's, like, arm. You know what I mean? It's like Chubaca hair physics. It's like Chubaca hair physics, but bigger. And so, and it's constant because he's always moving around. Like twisting green dreadlocks almost, too.

It's like, yeah. And I get it. It's the, again, it looks like a vinyl figure come to life. It's how you would do an action figure of him. If he was a real character, you would, if he was a person, you would, like, I could see how you do this interpretation. But it, I, I don't know why. It kills me. Austin just wants Cain and to sit that boy down is like, you were getting a haircut, son.

You're getting a haircut, young man, 100%. I'm taking you down to the barbershop. I'm going to sit you in that seat, and I'm going to tell him, give him the Marines. I don't want that. I don't want, like, I just, I don't know if I want him to have a pony. Like, I don't know what I want. But we need to not have the gelatinous plastic, like, mass, like, wobbling. I don't want that, yeah, uh-huh, it's, it's.

He does have. like light eyes a guy energy where like if you've seen like the the tic talks of dudes

like like with the big with light eyes with like really like giving like the you know giving you a look like he's got that

he's got that he'll grow into it but he's got it I don't is a TikTok genre of dudes with light eyes giving you the look

yes Yes Uh-huh Yeah You know on TikTok Rob You're not out there looking at It's not The thirst traps on TikTok

They are They have There's so many types There's so many genres So many types We I study them As like from an academic standpoint

Oh yeah Like you have an anthropological interest Exactly Exactly With light eyes Giving you the look And you'd be like If I were the sort of person

who is stimulated by this, I would be quite stimulated. I will rate this. Perhaps. Yeah, I'm just an observer. I can't make, I can't make judgments. I will just passionately continue watching these. There is something off about his character design, though, where it's like, it, like, it just feels like I want to go into the character creator and fuck with the colors a little bit.

His eyes are too blue. They're, like, too magical and blue. Do you also kind of feel like maybe, though, like they have an idea of he's going to grow into being a character? character, like, there's a bit of, like, this is a kid version of a character they want to get to. Yeah. Like, this is, this is, when Natalie mentioned, like, that he's Anakin Skywalker, like, this is his, um, Jake Lloyd era. But the whole point is to get him to be, uh, Anakin from, like, uh, attack of the clones. Hayden Christians, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, could be. I have no idea. Also, are people, do people, loathel just have blue eyes a lot? Like, is that, like, a character? like a backstar world building thing we don't know. I don't know. Also,

the big honeycomb structures on Lothel is. Lothel is not the planet where the lemurs were, right? Where they were like making their homes out of the big, like, fallen fruits that were like those big. I don't think so. God, have we been to Lothel before? Is this the first? No, I think this is the only time we've been to Lothal. I'm double checking.

What was the name of that planet? I used to know the name of that planet. I don't think it is something with an Lowe. It's Lamer Town. I did appreciate that this planet was, like, secluded and empty, but not desert. We had the wheat. It was great to see the wheat. Yes.

No, that was my Gito. They were on my Gino. They were called Lerman, which is sort of loathal Lerman. I get how you can get there. Yeah, there's lots of, like, big grassy plains on this plant. There's some great shots of that place throughout the Ezra story, throughout the two-parter we're about to talk about. do we want to watch the red carpet debut Rebels Recon episode

this is what our new Faloni zone this is five minutes this is going to be a long video I'm only going to show the full five minutes I think maybe on this episode because I want people to understand what I mean when I say that everything has a Disney sheen now in terms of

the kind of behind the scene stuff this is the most that that is like that and I think that it's worth understanding what Disney has brought to the old wonderful Faloni zone that we, that we used to adore, the sort of, you know, flimsyness of the artifice. To point a camera at a guy. The truth telling. Kind of like, you know, there was kind of like a cinema verite quality to the Filoni zone, a little dogman 95, and that's just gone, you know,

so okay let's let's screen share again again this is rebels recon episode episode 101 inside spark of rebellion uh by whatever disney you know by by star wars rebels on the star wars channel on youtube okay three two one go hi this is andy with star wars dot com it's different vibe Offices at Lucasfilm Headquarters in San Francisco to talk about the brand new Star Wars Rebels movie Spark of Rebellion This is Rebels Recon A little loud. I'm gonna After a nostalgia-inducing series intro we meet Ezra along with the members of the ghost crew and Ezra takes his first step into a larger world I'm in space

His eyes are so blue They're so blue and is unfortunately apprehended by Agent Callas of the Imperial Security Bureau. You're here to be used as bait. This first episode is packed with action. Each member of the Ghost demonstrates their unique skills. Canaan reveals himself as a Jedi and Ezra's force abilities are discovered. True.

First Jedi you've ever seen, sir. In the end, Ezra's invited stay aboard the Ghost to train as a Jedi, and we find out the crew has much more to fear than Agent Callis. This past weekend, we crashed the red carpet at the LA premiere of Spark of Rebellion to talk to cast crew. Energy is too much for me. ...exciting new chapter of the Star Wars saga. Chopper's there! Chopper's there.

How would you say the fan reaction has been so far? So far, everyone has been completely ecstatic. Heron's voice actress. Welcome to the Star Wars family. And just we're so excited to have you. And it's just been like... It's just overwhelmingly positive and wonderful. We're telling stories that connect to the original trilogy.

And for me, those are the movies that I grew up on. Simon Kinberg. It's like a beyond dream. like a beyond dream come true. Your armor looks amazing, guys. Did you shine it just for today specifically? Imperial Combat Drivers. That is a really, really interesting character.

How did you come up with his accent, voice? We threw a lot of stuff out there. The first thing that came to mind was so over real, heavy-cooked type of thing. How does that feel to introduce your child to something you love someone? I've been introduced from the very beginning, since he came out of the room.

Do you think you could beat a wookie in a fight? I don't think they know submissions that well, so I think I had a little advantage. Tito Ortiz for some reason. It's on the celebrity guest Dave Dave Hat on

George two weeks ago It's the first time he'd ever seen it Or anything from it And he loved it And I think that for us at Lucasfilm As you know That was a big deal And that was a great moment

Let's go Let's go. We're getting chopper, moving around back some... Um... Oh, come on. Getting kicked out of Java, the hut. He's a co-worker. ...clusive sit-downs with cast and crew.

This week, we're talking Spark of Rebellion as well as the overall development of the series. How was Star Wars Rebels initially pitched to you? Is Joel Aaron. C.GFX supervisor? Are we going way back to when I first found out about it or when the story was pitched? Uh, let's go way back. Way back. We were working on Clone Wars and Dave would always,

I actually still have this post-it note, Dave would always talk about the future. There was a desire to keep that team moving to take everything that was learned from Clone Wars and apply it to a new experience. Was, give us ideas for a pilot, or a ship, or a Jedi that's undercover, or even in some cases more like family roles.

How can a group of characters from such different backgrounds come together and actually be like a family while at the same time trying to do something as grandiose as opposing the Empire. What is the most exciting part about working with this time period? I love these wanted posters they have in the back. They're so good. This is the birth the rebels and I've wondered this like ever since been a kid. Everyone weirdly loves the Empire. They are probably the best group of bodies in cinema. Just being

able to use all the sort of classic elements that we grew up with. Stormtroopers are classic. The speeder bike scene with Ezra and Canaan really feels like the Keith Kellogg Animation Supervisor. What kind of techniques did you and your team use to capture that high speed feeling? We had to really figure out how to keep that speed up. So we were constantly increasing distance that things were traveling. And just like the old movies,

and we were cheating left and right. Like if you really look at that sequence, you'll see them going down very similar, if not the same areas constantly back and forth. We have the freedom to bring what's in our hearts about Star Wars into the show. And that's very rare. It's rare you get to do that.

We are focused on this one thing, which is the Rebels. It's awesome. Have a question about Rebels. Tweet it to at Star Wars with the hashtag Rebels. The vibe shift has occurred. The tweet? The tweet.

Now here's a sneak peek at the next episode of Star Wars. I'm going to pause this. We are not going to watch the sneak peek from the next episode. Something I've noticed in a lot of these Filoni zones and just the general messaging around the show is how much they're pushing like, we get access. We now have access. We now have the ability to play with like, the real toys, like the, like the toys that were reserved on the shelf for only those

worthy enough to wield them. The fact that she says, like, or somebody said, the nostalgic open, like, you know, nostalgia heavy opening, like, that's what I meant by, it feels like they're really selling it on Star Wars, like Disney. I mean, yeah, the opening shot is just from Empire Strikes Back, right? like, you're 100% right there. Like, it is, it is, they are desperate to play with those toys directly, which I'm so curious what we'll feel about in six weeks.

Well, it just makes me, it makes me wonder, like, was this the pitch? Like, we're doing, was, was it this era? Was it, I, we need to be, like, now that Disney owns this, we need to be able to use the iconic visual language of the original trilogy of that time period, is that like the value proposition? You know what I mean? I see what you're saying. I don't know because they could have they could have used all this stuff before when it was so Lucas film.

It's just they weren't making a show in that era, right? But that's why I wonder if Disney is pushing this era specifically for this show. Rebus was in development before the Disney acquisition. Yeah, it feels more like they're talking about like while we were making Clone Wars, we always wanted to have this sort of imagery, but we couldn't touch it because that technology didn't exist in universe yet. So now because we're in this different timeline, the Thai fighter that I've always wanted to put in a scene, I can do that without like having

to talk to George Lucas about it or having to beg Filoni for it or whatever. Right. So there's a little bit of extra stuff here that's worth saying. Part of the, the, Carrie Beck, who is the, again, the vice president of animation and live action at Lucasfilm, or at least was when I took this note, who co-created this show, started with the premise of an A-team-like group that goes around writing wrongs, and then Faloni actually had a different original concept for Clone Wars that isn't Asoka, Anakin, and then like kind of an anthology show where it jumps around. In a book called The Art of Star Wars, the Clone Wars, Philoni explains that his rough idea for Clone Wars originally was to deal with a small number of characters, a Jedi master and a

Padawan, a smuggler and his girlfriend, and a Gungan strongman named Lunker, and have them based on a Millennium Falcon-style smuggling ship, and have them involved in black market trade, war espionage, and other stories that existed outside of the giant galactic conflict going on in the background. And so that was his original Clone Wars idea. That is wild. None of that made it into Clone Wars. And so this is him getting to make that show. in a way, right? He's going like, oh, if we did an 18 style show where you're going around

writing wrongs, I can have my Jedi Master, Padawan, girlfriend, smuggler, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, show, you know. And then they through early, you know, some of the stuff we're not going to watch today, includes showing some of them breaking the story and like the big picture stuff. By the time the show goes live, they have it mapped out. They're talking about like, hey, this show is about the beginning of the, it's a lot of the Andor stuff, right? This show is going to show you how the rebellion was born. We're going to take it from this, this moment at the beginning of it all, through the big unification of all these different rebel factions and blah, blah, blah.

That's like what the show is supposed to be about. It's going to take us a number of years to get through that. And they are talking it from the jump about kind of the way that they are not only excited about, I mean, it's really weird. some of that footage because like the executive producers are helping to break the story. The two people who they keep shouting out, Simon Kinberg and the other executive producer whose name is somewhere on my screen, Greg Wiseman, like broke that story together with Faloni and some of those other leads. Like they were in the room doing that. And so yes, they're sort of like Disney is in the room. But I do think it originates before that with doing seven seasons of a show or six, six seasons of a show. where you're like, all right, we are in the same three-year period of the story. I could see getting old, right? So I do think that to some degree.

Also, there's like the age thing, which is like they were adults making a show about the clone wars. But they saw attack of the clones in their 20s and 30s. They saw the original trilogy when they were kids. These are Gen Xers, right? So, like, I think getting to open the door and put a Star Destroyer in your show probably just feels different for these folks than getting to put a trade federation cruiser in the show, you know? It's true. You know, I think the thing that does rub me a little bit the wrong way with this, though, is like,

oh, finally get to play with the iconic stuff and everything. To me, it's like, oh, but you had so much more an open-ended universe to play. For me, as a storyteller, it's like the Clone War is like, the Clone War is like, let you do so much because there was so much left like unpainted. It doesn't have to necessarily converge. My hope is you can carry those threads forward because the original trilogy never said a word about what was happening on Ryloth or what it meant to be a world on the, like we never, this is part of why we love Andor so much, right? It's like, oh, it fills in the gaps of what it meant to live under the empire. I don't expect rebels to hit like Andor hits.

I don't expect us to have the Aldani situation where like, oh, this is a place that was colonized and through a sort of infrastructural project, the people were pushed down away from their ancestral homes and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't expect that. But I think it's interesting that we seem to be focused on a place right now. Like, Lothel is a place that Ezra is from. Lothel is an occupied place. Are we going to keep seeing that? are we going to keep seeing places that like have parts of their everyday lives impacted in that way and then and then also like are we going to see more are we going to follow up on some clone

war stories since it's the same people telling these because if so there is still a lot of empty space in the original trilogy we just haven't seen people use it particularly well yet you know so shall we get into spark of rebellion let's do it uh like broad overview is pretty simple this is a this is how the band gets together. Ezra stumbles into the middle of a heist that the crew of the ghost is pulling off. He basically attempts to ninja loot, their loot, mid-heist,

and in the ensuing chase, exposed them all to the Imperials, and they end up having to rescue both parts of their loot and Ezra as they make their escape from Lothal. Ezra quickly learns that they, did this to run guns to a black marketeer who provides them with information and the information in this

case is that there is a shipload of wookies headed to Kessel a little tie in to I I'm so glad we just watched we just watched Solo this is how

this is how all them wookies got there dude there was so much shit that I was like I know this because of solo now and like this is the other like I have a feeling that what we're about to find out in this project is that every live action Star Wars thing since Rebels has been jacking stuff from Rebels. I genuinely think, not that Kessel comes from here, but this is the first time Kessel's on screen. I remember

there being a bunch of shit when Rogue One came out that was like, oh, here's a bunch of like clever nods to rebels in Rogue One. Um, but anyway, so we got to rescue them wookies, but it's a trap. the entire thing has been engineered by a new character we meet we meet Agent Callis Agent Calus from the ISB who has been sort of put on the trail of this gang that's been boosting Imperial supplies in the the trap is foiled by Ezra warning the gang that it's sort of foiled it actually basically works

but Ezra warns the gang that this whole thing is a trap they make they begin to make their escape Ezra is left behind in the middle of it. The crew of the ghost run away while Ezra is interrogated by Callas and the crew decides whether or not to go back for him. So rescuing him proves to be surprisingly trivial, but while he is left there, he is left with one item that he's managed to steal, which is a Jedi Holocron. Which he stole from Canaan, by the way, not from the Imperials. As he contemplates it, almost unconsciously, he opens it. And Obi-Wan appears, but it's a different cartoon, Obi-Wan.

I don't like it. I don't like him back. He's very soft. He's so soft. He looks like a Sims character. He does look like a Sims character. Didn't like it, no. But either way,

This is sort of the revelation that, you know, after the rescue and he's considering running away and parting ways, this is sort of recognition that he is a force user and that, you know, he can either go back to being a little Aladdin character or embrace his greater destiny, which is being, with joining up the crew of the ghost and dedicating his life to something larger, effectively. And what is larger right now is, well, those wookies are really out there, so we have to go rescue them. They go, there's an entire adventure that happens during the rescue. Ezra, like, you know, unsolishly goes and rescues a baby wookie. We're going to pull those heartstrings some more. What's cute? You know, a little tiny wookie is just knee walk. We have to protect them.

And at the end, having, like, in order to. sort of turn the fight, Canaan is forced to reveal himself as a Jedi. And in the aftermath of that, as they are sort of assessing, like, what's gone wrong here, Agent Callis is met by an imperial inquisitor, who is now on the trail of a case that's just gotten much bigger than just a band of rebel thieves and is now turning into a Jedi hunt. And Ezra says, yeah, I'm going to stick with Canaan. Canaan's going to be my master. I'll be his paddle on. In fact, a lot of line gets the in the script of the wookies at the end thank uh the line is wolf warro one of the wookie names expresses gratitude on behalf of his people especially to the great j Jedi knight

and his paduan disciple so like originally the wukies are going to be like oh thank you to you and your padawan which maybe that's what he said and just not translated for us you know no yeah i just that's really interesting because there's another script line from the imperial agent of being like, oh, I'm not going to be taking down by a master and his apprentice or whatever. So like the, and then like to have so much of the like environment around Ezra understand what's going on. But like the first response that Ezra has to this is just even asking what the force is is really interesting.

Yeah. It feels like a generation thing, right? Like he, all these adults understand what Jedi are still because they live through Order 66. you know and Ezra did not you know this would have Ezra would have been born Ezra would have been born he's 14 it's five years before before before I believe it's five years before New Hope so Ezra would have been born in 19 BBY which is the year the empire was founded so he probably he's never known the world before that

he's always born in 2001 When the empire was founded. Yeah. Yeah. No, right. Exactly. Right. Like, yeah. He's our, he's our post-9-11 baby. He's our Gen Z. He's our representing nation. Yes. But no memory of the Clone Wars at all. Correct.

Yeah. What's he think about clones? Like, these are things I'm so curious about. Yeah. Well, also, like, so much of his backstory, I mean, we know virtually nothing about his backstory. presumably he's had some in account like the loss of his parents right yeah right he's an orphan he doesn't he says he doesn't have parents we don't know uh but yeah where does it actually start it's the first speaker in this show is Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader my king it opens with that sick shot of the different Star Destroyers passing one another the overhead shot of the the fleet um I popped I like a hundred like and this is the thing and maybe part of me being more defensive of them being excited about going to, like, quote unquote, I get what everyone is

saying about being kind of like, all right, guys, you had cool shit already. This stuff isn't that. Yeah, just don't, don't, yeah, you don't have to. But this is a fucking Star Destroyer. And Star Destroyer is different for me. And that's James Earl Jones. And that's James Earl Jones, who hits different when it's really him for me. Uh, and I do just genuinely like this stuff more as a fan. Like the the fan of me jumped out like also straight away like my second like like my first note is is that James Earl Jones my second note is the high inquisitor seems hard as hell is this the same dude is the same dude I can't believe Here's the fuck up I'm sorry you can't trade down from Jason Isaacs Jason Isaacs is one of those actors you can't actually replace I'm sorry like no disrespect to group or friend but like he's not Jason Isaacs who is the voice of the imperial inquisitor here, right? Who is, by the way, just called the inquisitor right now.

The idea is he's the inquisitor. He's not a inquisitor. He's not the grand inquisitor, as far as we know. He's just the inquisitor at this point. So maybe this group is just being built. We don't, I don't know, you know. Do you want to give people some context for Jason Isaacs? Yeah, I mean, he's a popular, like, he's a major character actor, but he's played

all sorts of roles, but he's really excelled as like sort of menacing aristocratic villains, right? So like Star Trek Discovery, the first captain you have is where he is a Starfleet officer, but he seems a little bit twisted. Now,

don't watch Star Trek Discovery, because it's going places that you're not going to like. You're going to be real upset for why that guy seems twisted. When they reveal like, you're like, ooh, is Star Trek getting a little darksided and like in a cool way? And the answer is no. They,

they, bizarreo tracked him basically, uh, into existence. But anyway, uh, he is also,

um, let's see in the, he's in the Harry Potter was right? Speaking of things that will make you furious. He's, yeah, he's, he's,

he's the, the, the, he didn't actually, like, he didn't, he doesn't have that kind of range where he was like a little kid in one movie and then he was like an old aristocratic man,

but also, he's the shitheaded and the Patriot. I know, no one here cares about the Patriot, but, Hey, that movie sucks, but he's like,

a bastard in that movie. It's like, fuck this guy. Yeah, fuck this guy specifically. Yeah, he plays this type of role a lot, and he's very good at it. Also, I think I did realize from Obi-Wan. He's Udipa-Powen. He's from Udipal. Sorry, and you need to see his Zhukov and the Death of Stalin.

There's a lot of good things happening at the Death of Stalin, but his Zhukov is hysterically funny. It's one of the, it's one of the swagiest performances. Like ever put on film Yeah, he's great He immediately seems dangerous A lot again A lot of the background material stuff Which by the way

We watched that whole background thing So I could say that like We're not gonna watch all of those Going forward I might clip parts of them to share Because I don't want to watch Five minute long Very Disneyified

Very YouTubey Back behind the scenes clips every episode I will probably go back To reading some stuff from them So that we don't have to go through all of them But in many of them not the future episode ones, but the ones I watched that were all pre-episode, the first episode of the series release one, they talk about how hard they were to try to get this character right, to try to have their own take on the dark-sided, you know, villain who was going to like hunt down the good guys because you're in the shadow of Darth Vader, you're in the shadow of Darth Maul, like, you're playing on some of those things, but you need them to be distinct. And I don't know, I think I get why Lucas said put this shit first. I get why Lucas is like, yo, put that at the beginning.

That it hits. Well, it's just like, because I feel like if we had the episodes alone, there's sort of no sense of stakes beyond like, oh, these people are in this world and the empire exists. But like having this, like, and especially having it so disconnected from the cast, just being like, oh, there is evil out there. Well, and specifically, I think if it's just like, if the reveal, it'd just been like, oh, he's a Jedi. I know he's going to do cool Jedi shit. But it actually counts for, it's a bigger moment and more heroic because we actually do know, like, there are things these people need to hide from out there. Right. Like for him to announce himself this way is like we are blowing the cover on the thing that kept us from drawing the attention of like the varsity team.

Right. We used to only have to run from Callis. Now we have to run from Callis and the anti-Jedi squad, the Inquisitive. And beyond that, Vader. Right. Well, the fact that Vader sets up, you know, the mission as we, from the emperor, we must eliminate the children of the force. Like that is the goal.

The children of the force. It's not Padawans. It's not, you know, young Jedi. It's anybody who is force sensitive and is displaying that in any way. And that's why when later in the next episode, I believe Ezra, like does like a huge like a big flip over like a very Jedi ass flip over he's just doing Jedi maneuvers all the time he's doing Jedi maneuvers all the time which is why he is like a walking target just because by looking at him and observing him if you are one of these inquisitors

out there like you know in Obi-Wan Kenobi show like these people that are going out just searching planets for anyone he's a he's toast I'm surprised he hasn't gotten got by now well they just they're spinning up the Inquisitors finally, right? Yeah, now it's all starting. I'm so hope we get the Vader side of it a little bit. I so hope I don't have to go to the comics for it because I want to know, is Vader, because this is a Vader's job. Historically, the whole thing was Vader hunted down the Jedi.

And so now we're getting the episode two thing of Vader hires other people to do the thing. Vader delegates? Yeah, Vader's delegating. And like, okay, like, what went into that decision process? Did he look at the map and go like, well, fuck. the galaxy's big. I need some guys. I need some guys on my. I need guys and dudes. We need more guys and dudes. So badly. And also, now only the thing you pointed out, the children of the force, this is both a connection forward and backwards. Backwards, this is that Cadbane arc

where Cadbane tried to get the list of all the children of the force. And they took it back from him. So we know that this is a fucking job for Vader now. They used to not be a job. They used to just the emperor had the fucking list or Cadbane had the list for a moment of where all of the force sensitive kids were going to be. He doesn't have that list anymore. I mean, also the Jedi have been dead now for 15 years or whatever, so they're not

making that. Presumably that one guy is not making the list anymore. Um, which is so funny. Two, this is the plot of the first Jedi Fallen Order game. This is the McGuffin in that game. Is a holocron with the list of all of the force sensitive kids on it.

Right. That's what that game is about. So again... Gotcha that upsec fucking sucks. It sucks so bad. They have no idea what they're doing. Well, it's okay because nobody can access this list. It's on a Holocron, so if you're not at the Force Sensitive, you can't use it.

Good thing, there's no bad force users who might want to use it. Uh-oh. I for real thought for a second that the Holocron was going to be that list because... Oh. I mean, part of what happens in this episode is that it seems like Canaan and Hera are testing him to see, hey, is he secretly a force user? Is he ready to become someone who I can train and we can try to like rebuild the Jedi Order with him

or not the Jedi Order necessarily? Because it does not seem like Canaan gives a fuck about Jedi rules necessarily, which I love him for. But he does seem to be on the hunt for a young Padawan or like, hey, he seems like he could be someone who we could work with, you know, so. Well, uh, Which is another Gundam X connection.

Gundam X, the show in which alternate universe Amaro is going around to recruit new types. By the way, people should watch Gundam X anyway. Continue around. No, but like, I mean, right from the first, there's something, there is a connection between them, they just don't know what it is yet, but like,

you know, we open on the Imperals once again being dicks to the people of Lothal. And again, we get a sense of where we are in terms of time because the fruit vendors, like, I remember what it was like before you guys showed up and ruined the galaxy now galaxy was already ruined like this is a little bit of revisionist history like the empire but maybe loathol wasn't maybe loathal maybe was midrim or something jogan fruit rich with jogan fruit uh but ezra helps bail the the vendor out of trouble we go into full

alad mode he was right back up on the roof after stealing the fruit and he's got and this is our introduction to one of his big moves which is he just hops on people's comms and starts fawking it. He listens in to learn what they are up to, and he sends them false messages. And while he is up there, he's having drawn the Imperials off, he, the show has an audio cue for the Force. It does. It's a multiple. It's two different types. Yeah. So this one is bassy. It's dark. It's something bad is about to happen. That was weird. I.

Later in the second episode, there is a lighter, brighter version of the sting that hits. That is much more positive. Yeah, I guess it's like when he feels something's calling to him versus he feels there's a danger. That is. I believe that's the divide exactly. While he is on the roof, he senses something, and he looks around and his eyes lock on Canaan, who's standing down in the street. And then the force, like, Glissondo intensifies as Canaan senses that someone is up there in a split second before Canaan can look. Ezra dives down, and we know the game is up.

Like, Ezra is for sure a Jedi, but we're also now pretty certain that Canaan, like, is getting, similar pings. Yes. Remember that bit at the end of Andor, the end of Endor, the end of Andor, the end of Andor where Luton doesn't realize Andor is watching him from above. This is the opposite of that. Canaan immediately is like, oh, Jedi sense, Jedi sense. There's some ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, where?

Oh, okay. It's good. Anyway, they fuck up these Imperials, Doc. They're blowing shit up. They're, Canaan is shooting people in the streets. Yeah. A lot. but also

my other note here is Ezra needs an ass kicking because he's too epic they do all the work of stealing the shit and then he's like oh thanks for

thanks for doing the heavy lifting and grabs the bike and they're like oh man we have to kill the kid we really know like we're going to like we might have to kill a kid here and in the process

during the car chase they're trying to get they're trying to like chase cane down on their bikes but they're also trying to protect him from the troopers, so they all get away and like, you know, and this is where Canaan is just like mowing people down. It's just like, boom, boom, headshot, like piles of Dead Storm Troopers, littering

littering the streets. And we do get, uh, you know, Sabine shows up and we get a sense of like how she reads all this. Zeb is like, I'm going to kill that kid. Canaan is pissed. Sabine wants to see how this plays out. She hops up there. And she's like, What is it? You've got style, but if they catch you, it's your ass. And she shoots one of the crates, like three of the hauler. She's like, yes? It's so good.

Let's see what you got. Yeah. She gives him a chance to get away with some of it. That's very fun to me. Like, I think that's the best characterization we've got from her so far, right? Is like, that's a great little way of giving us how she is different from like Zeb, where she's like, listen, you know what? Fair play. You know, you know?

Let's see a little action. Let's see what you can. do. A note here is this was not originally a speeder bike chase. This was in the animatic. It was a foot chase across the rooftops. Much less good. Yeah. Would not have hit.

Also, how would they be getting the crates around? Well, they can push them. They hover. We saw that. I think that it looks like you're, you've got like a bunch of like Pelican cases on wheels that you're just like sprinting around rooftops with. And having done that shit, no. I do think it's so fun to watch this chase just after seeing solo where we had kind of a mid-speeder bike chase

outside of a city to begin with here I think this is just so much better Zeb does that sick trick with the like the staff that he has where he like pulls it out and like holds it and then like hits the brakes and close line somebody with it and the bike flips and blows up Canaan is doing all sorts of sick tricks with the gun

and with bombs and stuff well I kind of dig that there's this the loathal highway feels so out of context so does the city the whole city feels like a dusty small like village and then as they drive out of it you see there's this entire other part of it where they basically drop midgar into the middle of this planet and this highway nobody's on it there's no suburbs there's no outer like city that this is going through and the whole thing has this feel of like a bit like some of the stuff we see in andor where they're their effect not quite like not terraforming in terms of like the climatic sense,

but they're terraforming that planet to create a better like storage depot, the logistics supply hub for the empire. And this has the similar vibe of this seems like convenient place to have a large central like spaceport. And then we will have miles of highways spoken out to whatever other facilities we need. This again is just Ralph McQuarray art. The first one I've dropped here is from the original art, like concept art from like Ralph Macquarie's original concepts of for Star Wars and like places that could exist in Star Wars. And that's just it.

Like there's the highway. I mean, I guess it's not, it's not surrounded by water like it is here. Yeah. I guess maybe that's not water. No, but it reminds me a lot of Rogue One where the Star Destroyers rising over the ocean. Yep, totally. And the second thing is from rebels, to be clear. But that first shot is just that's loathal.

Like, there it is. they just are using that design, which I think is, that's extremely cool. Like, I'm happy to see that stuff get explored in modern visual stuff because I think it's very cool. It's always been cool. And Star Wars went a different direction in so many ways, you know? Star Wars was never about places like that because making places like that is very expensive. So anyway, this chase happens.

They get away. Tie fighters show up and they have to, like, like, the. ghost has to swoop in and rescue them. And in the process that, they're like, dump the loot. It's not worth it. Ezra's not letting go with that loot. And it turns out he can Jedi jump. He does a wild jump.

That jump that he does with the crate. I, come on, man. Well, seeing air, bud. That's the force. He should have bawled. Like, he should have balled. I'm saying, like, he's being too out in the open with this ability. Like, it's just, he's.

He's really, like, sending it. He doesn't know what he has. Here, I guess not. He's just like, other people can't jump like this. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. In some ways, isn't this what we've always said the force should have been? It's just, you know a guy who's good at jumping.

You know someone who's good with machines. You know what I mean? You're just in the, you're in gem pop. It's true. Sometimes you just got somebody who's good at shit. That's Ezra. He wouldn't gotten no trouble in his life. You know, I mean, he would have kept stealing stuff from people, but, like, he wasn't, you know, he wasn't going to be a tyrant with it.

Just let him be a guy. Anyway, they steal a bunch of guns. He feel a lot of guns and other things. And we immediately got our first, like, and Ez was like, do you know what this would fetch on the black market? And he's like, hey, I'm saying as you guys. Like, we all just got to steal to get by. And Zeb is offended. He's like, you don't know anything about us.

You don't know why we stole this. which is the kind of key like he sees all of it as everyone is just like doing things for survival that is his lens on the world is like we are all trying to do what we can to survive and this is in first encounter of people who like are doing things

because of like moral conviction and ideology never heard of that before yeah what's that um there's just some little beats on the ship here that I love I love uh canaan being like chopper give me a break I've had a rough morning incredibly good

incredibly cute by the way I guess you're talking maybe more about some voice actors here Canaan voiced by Freddie Prince Jr

who we know is a huge Star Wars fan who would go on to use this as a platform to talk about what he's learned

about the force from George Lucas famously there's like that big clip about how he understands the force

because Lucas explained it to him which I think is very funny we get a handful of other things here too I don't know if anybody notices but Sabine has a special chair in the cockpit

that she's painted that's like her unique special racing stripe and like like a neon purple duct tape on it I do think they're doing really good work with the cockpit here that's sort of what stood out to me from the

first short and what Rob was saying in terms of like, oh, we're back in Star Wars, is the, like, the sort of cockpit that you could have the whole cast in, the, like, looking in from space and the lighting looks really good of the stars. Yeah. Yeah, we don't get this in Clone Wars. This is not a type of focus that we get, like, Anakin has the twilight, and sometimes people take it places, but we don't have a Millennium Falcon stand in in Clone Wars, really.

We're very, like, military vessel focused. We're like big starter pre proto star destroyers where we are in the, you know, the Confederacy ships. We're in big, you know, sometimes someone's a Jedi Starfighter, but we're not in like you and your found family have a home and it's in space. Yeah. It's either these like really big command rooms or these like really tight military ships. Yeah. I love this style of ship so much, this like smaller, cool, you know, pirate frigate. This is this like lone thing. You should all get houseboats. I agree.

Farewell to the podcasting community. It's been great. Peace. We could just drive to shore once a month and upload our little. Okay. Here's the thing. I was just by like a marina. And people who live on boats, they just drive their boat up to the dock.

They hit the town, hit the restaurants, hop back on the boat and chill in the fucking marina. The wild blue yonder, which is the sea, not the skies. That's the sea, as far as I'm concerned. It seems pretty nice. Yeah. We could be seafolk. I would do it.

I don't know if I have to see legs for a little boat. I don't think you need them to live at the marina, though, which is what a lot of these folks that are doing. Like, sunny Crockett wasn't out there at sea. That guy from Zodiac wasn't, yeah I love the idea of being like a seafaring guy

like in aesthetic in visuals but living in the marina and never leaving boardwalk guy in lifestyle. Exactly. We deserve this

so bad. We've been so good. We've been so good. Occasionally when it's a little too much for you. You can just sail your little boat out. Just a little out. Check the weather. It's going to be calm night at sea and just hang. Just hang. And like

not one of the stars. Yeah. Yep. Tune in the local radio station. Hmm. You know, listen to some Billy Joel. And it could happen if you tell your friends about patreon.com slash civilized. Could you imagine if we made, if we had a tear

that was, we'll move on to houseboats? The new friends of the table tier is that numbers of our cast are going to do a hunter hunter podcast. The new tier of a more centralized age is we moved into houseboats. Very similar. All right, guys, we're going to press pause on the show for a couple months because it's time for annual get together and we're going to have to, this year it's time for the East Coasters to sail through the Panama Canal.

We go back up around. It's so funny. I think we would all, if we became houseboat people, we would all move to the same coast. I think that has to be part of it. Yeah. We can have different marinas, but we should be, like, within sailing distance. Within sailing distance, exactly.

I think that's important. Right, regular, like, not, like, voyage, but, like, a little jaunt. Right. We have to be within jaunt distance. Exactly. We should get a fucking spaceship. It's unfair that we don't get to live in a spaceship as a crew. Do they make, like, a mother-daughter houseboats?

They might. We have, like, a houseboat. I would live in a tugboat behind one of your houseboats. See? This is getting more reasonable. They should sign over the Galactic Cruiser to us. Please. Well, that's a building.

But they have all of those Disney cruise lines that they used to do Star Wars cruises on. And I bet some of them have Star Wars-esque environment in them. I'm looking up houseboats, and they're expensive, but they're not that. expensive. And Austin, something that fucks me up sometimes is, like, for those of us on the East Coast, yeah. Like, you could just, like, buy your boat and you have, like, maybe a little house up in Maine or, like, Nantucket or something. And, like, driving New York City, hard, difficult, challenging. Boating. Sailing to New York City. Easy. It's right there. It's right there. You just, like, you just go puttering across the bay. Some of these are a fortune, but some of them are only, like,

tens of thousands of dollars, which is a fortune, but it's not millions of dollars for That's terrible. This is what I'm saying. You sail for a minute, and it's like, oh, I'm at Long Island. Boom. Also, some of these houseboats are houses, and I don't understand, I don't. More house than boat? Sometimes you're going to a houseboat and you're like, I feel there's a seaworthiness question

here. Yeah, this is not going on the sea. This is a house you put on the water. Oh, yeah, that's a house. My man, that's a house. Can it drive? It's gorgeous. Oh, this is such a vibe.

Oh, it's like a modern. It has motor. It's so tiny. The bedrooms are nothing. I don't know about that. It's a barge home. I don't like that it looks like it could be 3D printed. Like, I don't like that aesthetic in general.

You know? Yeah, I get you. I've lived in my shit of your places, though. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. And this is... And this is on water. We should rent a houseboat for a weekend.

We should. Just to get out of our systems. Everybody, we're going to eat in our feelings right now. You know houseboat life is not for us. Yeah. And we did it. We understand.

We could do what like wrestlers do and have like an AMCA cruise and sell tickets. Don't put people. People will say yes to this. If we did an AMCA waypoint friends of the table cruise. cruise, we would elevate ourselves to a different tier of podcaster which is the tier that people hate. Oh yeah, there's podcasters

that do this, not just wrestlers do this. It's not just wrestlers. I'm forgetting that. Podcasters do cruises? Yeah, there's the Joko cruise, right? It's the Joccoo cruise. You believe that if you need it. We don't want to be talking shit. I think it's the Jonathan Colton cruise.

Joe Co is Jonathan Colton. I believe that that's true. And that's like, you know. Maximum fun. Maximum fun. you know that vibe you know there might be giants are there sometimes i want to say you know the band yeah well jonathan colton's a musician also oh but you know that you know like weird owl light you know what i mean weird owl light you know like like mpr funny dot com you know what i mean

like that brand of and people go on boat with him funny i was npr funny i was npr funny Anyway, you're like Will Wheaton Cor. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just keep, we just keep beating probably segments of our audience of shovels right now. You know these other people you probably like? Listen, I've got to see my brother, my brother, me live before. I've gone on a cruise, but, you know, shout outs.

Yeah. We and Griffin go back. I've never been on a cruise. Uh-huh. Me either. I've never been. on a cruise. Naval or Galactic.

Yeah. I would do it. Not in real life, I would not go to space. In real life, I would not go to space if I had the opportunity. Really? I wouldn't go, hmm. Nope. Well, not right now.

If the ghosts, if this ship landed outside, I'd get on it. But I wouldn't get on any spacecraft that's gone to space in the last year. If, yeah. If the Millennium Falcon came down and was like, hey, going on a trip. When you say and said, hey, do you mean L3, the ship? No. Actually, I did, God damn it. I'm like, I'm like soured on the Millennium Falcon as a vessel.

Did you see the clip that I sent you all from this from this Bloodlines book, this Claudia Gray book? Did I post that in here? That like, there's a bit in it where C3BO is talking. to the mind of a city, of like a smuggler city to try to like make sense of where some shit is. And there's a line in here that is Leia, C3PO says, yes, your highness, I believe such data is readily available. But now that we're talking, the core is proving rather chatty. It's had known to speak with it ever so long. And it says, Leia experienced the vaguely guilty sensation that surfaced every time she realized that droid personalities were more than programmed conversational quirks.

A computer core could be lonely. C3PO could take pity on it. And then, only in the audiobook version, only then, it ends with her saying like, oh, well, that's a problem for another time. Every time she realized, she's realizing this many times, many times she's thinking about how droid personalities are more than programming. conversational quirks This is New Republic Era so it means like every time she's like

our new Republic's so much better than the Empire Oh we do have a slave class though Oh well That's that future lay I can handle that Yeah I'm very busy right now You know we're running for first senator And we should get back to it

If you like this sort of diversion One you should listen to a more civilized age Two you should support us at patreon.com slash civilized because this sort of diversion is inevitable every time we do a Q&A episode. It's true. Where were we?

Ezra got on board. Ezra got on board. Yeah, okay. Also, so as they're making their skate, Zeb is thrown on top of him and Ezra makes fun of his smell. And again, I'm like, this kid needs to get dumpstered. Sorry. Like, just into the trash.

We're having banter. We're having hijinks. We're getting to know each other. No, you don't come on my ship and start get racist at me. You don't start pulling this shit. Wait, did he call him a racist? Wait.

What? I'm saying if Ezra's like, uh, like, oh, right, did Ed, wait, who complained about who smell? Ezra complained about Zeb's smell. Oh yeah, you gotta go.

Yeah. You got to go. No, we're not having this. We're not having this on the ghost. Speaking of racism, in the behind the scenes for Zeb, which will watch on some future episode, I do just want to note that multiple people were like, you know, Zab's pretty articulate for someone his size.

No. He's witty and funny, and it's just kind of juxtaposed with what he looks like, you know? He's like, he's not just a dumb thug. And I'm just like, oh. Okay, I swear to God, I've had people like in my life throughout my life who I swear to God thing. Usually people, maybe a little bit shorter stature who I swear to God, I start picking a vibe where it's like, you think that you're like if we were like a children's cartoon or something

you're like the clever little mouse and I'm like the dumb St. Bernard and I'm like I regret to inform you I'm bigger than you and I'm smarter than you now add the racial stuff of real life end of Star Wars and it's like to some degree I think that they didn't think about it

it is, it is confirmed. Pablo Hado has said this that all of the human characters in the show are multiracial characters. They're all meant to be people of color. Awesome. That doesn't mean you can have your big alien guy stand in, be your dumb lug or be, quote, unquote, articulate without you stepping on a bit

of a landmine here. I will say I like that he's kind of a prick. I do like that about him because I do think there is a move towards doing the opposite thing as like a hard correction to this. where you're like, you know, he's the big, you know, a beefy guy, and he's, he's a himbo with a heart of gold, right? Like, that's like a maneuver that we get a lot of now. Like, we've put Gaston in the past.

We're not doing big, strong guy who's an asshole. And Zeb is kind of a prick throughout these episodes, and I love that for him. He's confident about what he believes and what he believes is this little brat needs to get off my fucking ship. So. Well, and he's got, like, strong, like, first sergeant vibes. He does. It's like, you know, Harry's the captain and Canaan's the, like, idealist, like, you know, pushing the mission. But, like, Zab's the guy who, like, if ultimately, like, somebody's put their shoulder into it or, like, take someone aside and, you know, hold them to account.

It's going to be Zab. Yeah. And I like that that energy can go a couple ways, right? Where it's like, we don't need to be sentimental about stuff. Like, this, what is the point having this kid around? Which, interesting enough, this is where Canaan starts out. Hera immediately senses, I don't think it's like, I'd be easy for this to read as like, ah, like she's the mom of the ship and like there's a maternal vibe. But actually, it's like she picks up from the first that there's something Canaan isn't saying.

Like that there's something about this kid's presence that is unsettled Canaan that interests her. And so she immediately is starting to, like she sort of notes that what he's pulled off here is impressive. It was a hell of a jump. And Canaan is protesting, like, kids who's like a bit of a dirtback. He's just a, he's a street rat, you know, this little Aladdin character. But, yeah, like, right from the first, she senses that, like, Ezra being here has brought something out in Canaan, and she would like to know more. She knows her man.

She can tell that he wants something. You know, Rob, the other day on Waypoint, you were talking about how M.K. let you get the big fancy monitor and I think this is a moment of hair being like I can tell you think that there's something interesting happening with Ezra you think maybe he is the force I can I get the vibes you let yourself have a Padawan you deserve it you know what was it that in case said Rob it was that's all the more reason that you should get it now yeah dude like yes it was like I was like I think it might be losing my job soon And it was like, well, then we should really spend that money.

Because we have it now. We have that money. And that's Harry here to me. Yeah. Well, and also, but I think you aren't getting it something. We'll see if it's developed. But, like, if Canaan's a, if Canaan's like a full Jedi or whatever his background, wherever he was in relationship to the order or whatever, like, part of this is

you pass on your skills and knowledge. Like that part of being in Jedi is you also train the next generation of Jedi and like this all comes with the territory and they can't do that anymore And so there's always this thing where like part of his calling He's probably scared of answering and I think there's there's a bit here of He would very much like to like Not think about whether this kid is forced sensitive even though he knows from the first he probably has an inkling That Ezra is and if he doesn't know yet the game is given away a little while later. But first, you know, we get a, we get a brief

introduction to Agent Callas, who is sort of called in as the robbery homicide detective effectively. Like the, the Imperials we all meet on this planet are dipsets and thugs. This is the guy who's from the ISB and is putting the pieces together of like, we are up against a criminal gang and I'm here to sort this problem out. Voiced by, did anyone else look this up? David O'Yoloo, who this same year was Martin Luther King Jr. in Selma. And had just been in the butler a year before. And here is the connection two years prior had been in Red Tales,

Georgia Lucas's to ski airman flick. and so he made a connection to Lucas there ends up getting this is not a Star Wars guy I cannot help but draw a line connecting him to the what is the name of the character in Serenity the eight the oh yeah the Chihuahua GIFOR yeah exactly who's who's playing like

the same role of like the no nonsense I know there's issues of Serenity but man that's a great fucking performance I mean he's I've always he like outguns everybody else on that. It's like a huge film actor dropped in with TV actors moment. He just crushes it. Oh, it's like, oh, I'm sorry, we got a movie star on set now.

A hundred fucking percent. But it's, but like, what the fuck is happening here? These are two movies about someone from the bureaucratic core of the evil empire, both played by British black guys with Nigerian, from Nigerian heritage, voicing these, I mean, in Serenity, it's just, it's just Tuadel, so it's just him. But here, you have a black guy. guy voicing a white guy playing this role. It's just like a very weird alignment for them both to literally be of Nigerian heritage, both British. Like you're playing on, there's something

happening with the voicing, right? There is some, some, you know, something in the imaginary. You hear that voice. Casting agents are hearing that voice and are going like, you'd be perfect for this shithead. Well, I wonder if it's also a bit of, I don't know, I don't know, like, are they really like Nigerian born? Because I, I don't think they are. I think they are. I I think that they're both British nationals. Yeah. Yeah. Because I can imagine, like, sometimes, like, you get interesting effects when someone is, like, schooled perfectly in a language where you don't pick up any of the accent weirdness that comes with, like, being native to a region.

And so you can, like, be more posh than the posh. Right. But I have no idea. But, yeah, there is, it is. And this is who he is in this. like we sort of hear that the the the grunts on the planet yeah all have like working class uh british act cockney northern etc and then this dude arrives and it's the same thing as like partigaz in and or it's like and here are the public school boys uh arriving on scene to uh to

apply thought to this is where this is where the empire's thinking uh you know soldiers come on oh and interesting thing his headgear is reminiscent of the senatorial guard in Clone Wars nobody else wears this head gear but is like is this what became of

the like the blue guard the like Roman guard looking guys right is this what became of like the senatorial like police force effectively yeah that's interesting what they turn into is a secret police

yeah I can see that that's fun he's he's intimidating. He again is a great voice. He has a great presence. I love him looking down on these local imperials. My instinct is he's someone we will see a lot of, you know? I love the images of the big

they're not AT-A-Ts or like ATD-Ts or something walking through the streets of Lothal or Lotho's capital city or whatever. They look cool. There's like a little bit of the volume metric. One of the big visual differences I think generally is there isn't as much of the volume metrics that we got used to at the end of Clone Wars, a sort of sense of like light moving through dust and stuff.

There's a little bit of it here. I think it makes the city look cool at night. Also, there's just like good propaganda throughout this city. Yeah. I don't know if anybody picked up on that, but like, I'm going to send one of the propaganda posters over now because it's very, it's just like, I'm thinking, I'm curious a lot about how they're going to sell living under the empire and this image of lethal, this kind of like mural that's somewhere in these episodes of local capital city like with the star destroyers

overhead and the tie fighters passing by and like an imperial engineer holding a wrench and then the silhouettes of the children running and one of them was holding the the tie fighter like they're playing with it so good so much thought is going in there's almost like a public works art style happening here which i think is really cool um like i i really want to meet meet the propagandist for the empire. If Sabine is an artist and art is going to be a thing here, we need an episode about the imperial propagandist who like cracked this style and Sabine's feelings about it. There's that, there's that, but I actually have it.

Oh, right. You have that book. Yeah. Natalie rolling to the bookshelf. Natalie getting primary materials. Yes. Star Wars propaganda, history of persuasive art in the guy. Galaxy. And I think there's a whole section on Rebels in here, but I didn't, I haven't wanted to open it because I don't want to slip cover. Yeah, it's got a slip cover. Cool. Cool stuff. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. I should go Buck Wild and get a bunch of Star Wars art and production books.

Doing the show makes you like make decisions. I can justify it now. It's work. I'm sorry. This is my profession. Hold on Look at this This is just a random You're going to lower it and bring closer Put your hand Do you know Oh my god

That's Republic art That's not even Imperial Sorry what kind of droids that Oh that's so good That's like an advanced Betty droid With her ass all the way out It says Do you know who else she's talking to

And it's like an all black sex droid Is that grievous? It would know The shadow is grievous Because she's important And so she's in the foreground being seductive and her asses all the way out. This is keep our republic secure. What's it say under that?

It says, wipe your droids memory regularly. Wow. What are we doing? What are we doing? And then the shadow behind her is projecting from her is Grievous's face. She looks so sexy and evil. She looks so sexy. This is Deliver Us from Jedi Evil.

Oh my God All right, we gotta read this book We gotta get into this We gotta get into this Okay, anyway Let's write off that real quick There's a lot of cool art in the background In the scene

And yeah, and Calus is like, I'm here to Calas is doing children's TV version Of there's fermenting sir Right? He's like, I'm here to snuff out The spark of a rebellion before it's bigger than we can handle basically Yep

And meanwhile, we learned that what the gang stole these guns for is not to just be gun runners. They are selling this for information. They are selling it to an informant. Did anybody think that it was going to be... Honda? I had like this tiny seed.

A tiny fragile seed. The only seed from the harvest that survived and it was like nearly dried out and then it just kind of went away. It was not. It was said it was Vizago.

Yeah. I love this go guy though. Me too. He's sick. I love his big weird droids. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. With like the like chest read out. Yeah.

Yeah, that's great. I love that we've set up that this is a Tarkin town. Yes. The Hoovervilles of old. What a, what a note. Love the idea of Tarkin towns where people who, again, it's like and or light shit, right? People were displaced and where did they go? They went to these like ramshackle thrown together little towns out in the hills called Tarkin towns.

Perfect. And he arrested anybody who fought back when they were seizing their farms and arrested them for treason specifically, which. He's doing like planetary scale like construction projects. Yeah. Just turn it like. Tarkin shit. Yeah. Because Tarkin.

Okay. Actually. This planet is a depot now. Right. This planet is a like, yeah. Oh, which, which I guess now we know actually, Lothal is in the outer rim because it. they specifically say Tarkin is the governor. Or maybe I have to look this up,

that Tarkin is the governor of the outer rim, like, sector, which is interesting, right? That, like, that helps set certain things to, in terms of clarity, in terms of, like, how Tarkin is getting up to some of the shit that he gets up to. It's like, oh, he's in the place that truly nobody gives a fuck about, you know? So he gets, he gets the ability to... But also he's in the land of unclaimed resources,

or underclaimed resources. where you can exploit now much more directly. The other part of this is like, you know, they're rebels with a heart of gold, right? They've robbed from the Imperials. They don't just want information. They're also here to feed the people. Yeah, the whole time Ezra's like, okay, I'm going to get away with my guns. I'm going away with my guns.

I want my guns. Great. No, keep it. So then he gets the freaking epic, epic realization face smack, face palm, when he realizes that all of this was going to people in need, they weren't just cashing out on some guns. Actually, the crates had fruit, Jogan fruit, and other types of fruit in it. And Ezra realizes that there's more to live for than just an easy score.

You can live for helping others. so fast. It happens so fast. I get it. It happens really fast. I do like the story beat of him being like oh, I'm having a personal crisis because people thanked me for giving them food. And I never would have

done that. And then he has to like go sit down by himself and then immediately after he goes under the ship and was like let me go find some shit I can steal. It's not a huge reverse. The force calls him to steal. Yes. Well, sure. He is. He's just walking along.

and he hears the treasure box sound from Fortnite. He hears the gold chest. And he's like, I just need to smash through this wall to see what's, to see what's in there. He does,

he uses a screwdriver to hack into the door and then Chopper sees him immediately. Chopper sees him and he just rolls away. Chopper's like, all right, kid. Chopper's got better shit to do. I think Chopper's actually chuckling to himself

as he rolls away. Like, he can't wait to like dime out this door. Chopper's seeing the whole, oh, the whole, the whole arc already Chopper knows Chopper knows that

Kanan and Hera are like intrigued by this kid Chopper can feel the Chopper probably can feel the forest off this kid I don't believe that droids can't feel the forest That's bullshit to me It's bullshit yeah So you know

I think Chopper just he sees the bigger picture He's not worried about it 100%. He sees or sorry I guess Ezra finds the holocron which he steals immediately puts it in his back pocket And then finds the lightsaber, finds Canaan's lightsaber, which looks sick.

I love how the lightsabers look here. Again, there's an entire feature we don't need to go watch, but people can go watch it at home. It's called, where is it, igniting a legacy. It's all about how they figured out how to do the lightsabers in this show and make them look more like the original trilogy lightsabers in terms of their brightness. And their overall like appearance is meant to evoke. the OT lightsaber a little bit more.

They literally found, so this is the thing where it's like, I get part of, maybe there was a material change here in terms of who they had access to because he talks about finding Roger Christian, who is the creator of the original lightsaber, to go consult on this new, to like, he had to go find the guy who built the first lightsaber to be like, how did you do that? Because we want to evoke that more directly than the way. way we've been doing lightsabers. And so he like went and talked to him about how to like, oh yeah, I used tape in a certain way on the rotoscoping to produce this effect. So that's why

it has a certain type of effect in terms of the thinness or the glow or whatever. And so they like modeled that physical material and then lit it in a way that it was evoking that exact same glow. But I think is like, that's neat. I think that's cool. So I just like how they look here. The way that they vibrate a little bit more, the way that they, like, they sort of take up more physical space when they're moving. They, like, have a little after effect that makes them kind of fan out sometimes. Um, that's good. Anyway, Kayana's like, give me that, give me that fucking weapon. Stop it. Get out of here. Ezra knows it's the weapon of the Jedi. He's curious. Um, yeah. And as,

this is, this is where as, as he leaves, he's, he's stolen the holocron, uh, But he's given the lightsaber back. But this is where Canaan and Hara say, like, from here, like, I guess we'll see. I guess we'll see. Yeah. Sorry, I thought you were jumping ahead to the next thing, which is Ezra finds his way to the mess hall. Ezra finds his way to the little kitchen where Sabine is. And Ezra immediately is like, hey, what's good?

What's good? Where are you from? Where are you from? Yeah, I guess I'm not too good at following directions. I'm not really from anywhere Who doesn't love Watching a kid A child becoming aware of a sexuality

Sexually harassing an older woman We already did this Lexmont Terry Fuck off I didn't need to show about Lexxon Skywalker Antikin Skywalker fuck off Whoa Hey

You an angel Are you an angel? He's doing Are you an angel I mean Here's the is This is Because Luke also does this It just hits with Leah.

And that ends up being a dead end for obvious reasons. But like... Also, they're older. They're the same age. You're right. They're the same age because they're twins. Of course. It doesn't feel like it, but yes.

It doesn't feel like it. He feels like a child compared to Leah. She's a senator. She's a senator. Of course, we live in a world where 14-year-olds are senators all the time. Yeah. But either way, it's not... Which we could live in in just a decade in our world.

You know, the way things are going, 14-year-old alt-right YouTuber running for Senate, it could happen sooner than you think. Yeah. More likely than you think. Uh-huh. Anyway, he gets shut down, which is good, I think. She does give him a little, the name Sabine. Yeah.

Or she says, she says, Sabine, that's my name. Follow me out while we go to the other room to hear what our next orders are. Buy some insurance. Bye, so. I looked it up and Sabine is meant to be 21 at the end of rebels I don't know

I didn't want to keep Googling I looked up she's 19 at the beginning so there's a 5% Don't you can't Kid back off Kid back off I get the

You can be a 14 year old With a crush You know what I mean That's like being in the world of media I know It's being surrounded by like Hot actresses And all the things you watch

And be like I think I'm I think this is attraction But don't Come on she's just trying to have coffee Mm-hmm Yeah

So I do like the detail He'd never seen hyperspace before Yes Yeah that's cool It kind of stuns He's just so not worldly And And

And I think there's a little trick Their little hyperspace trick is fun Of like They jump away And then they come back Where they were But they hide their signature In such a way that they're like

Oh they just don't know That we came back We're still in Lothal We're still going to be around Lothal, but is that here or is that later? That might be later. No, I think it's like roughly here. I think that's how they come back to deliver the food. Right.

So, but he doesn't see hyperspace in that sequence because he's like running around the interior ship. This time he's like up in the cockpit and he sees them, sees them jump. But so they go on their, they go on their mission to liberate these wiki slaves. And as they begin their boarding action on this prison transport, port. Ezra gets this premonition. Something is wrong. It's a little too late.

It's not much of a premonition from the forest because it's literally as he has that realization that an Imperial Star Destroyer shows up and the entire thing has been revealed to be a baited trap to lure this group into Calais's clutches. And the second episode picks up basically right here, which is Herra is telling Ezra that their comms are jammed right as this is happening. So Ezra has to run aboard this transport and warn the gang to abort the mission and get back where the ships they can escape. And this is the big pitch, right?

This is the big, like, emotional moment of them, of her explaining him. Is this here or is this later where she's like, you have to, you have to believe in something. Maybe that's later. No, I think it's here. This is, like, she gives him a hard sell. I'm trying to find it in my notes here oh yeah she says this is actually the very end of the previous episode is the thing she says you need to board the transport and warn them he says what why don't you what why don't you do it she says I need to be ready to take off or none of us stands a chance he says no no way why would I why would I risk my life for a bunch of strangers and she says because Canaan risked his life for you if all you do is fight for your own life then your life is worth nothing. They need you, Ezra. They need you right now. And that's like, that's him being like, okay, I'm bought in. Here's the thesis of the show. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You have to risk

your life for other people. You have to put other people in front of you or else your life isn't worth anything. I think what makes this a fall a little bit flat for me, though, is like, because part of the answer here is because, like, this is my ship. I'm the one who flies I ain't leaving until my crew is aboard. So we can either we can either all go in Imperial lockup together and see what happens or you can get out there and like just tell these folks we got to go.

I'll be honest. I think part of it part of why Lance Flat for B is Ezra's voice acting isn't there. Maybe he gets there eventually. But right now it is he's surrounded by people who are doing more naturalistic voices, generally speaking. You know, Zeb is still playing up very cartoonish moments.

I think Sabine is still in that space. But, you know, Hera and Canaan are constantly in just like that little private, you know, relationship mode where they're like, hey, you know, we'll give them some time and say, right? They're like in a different mode. And then there's bombastic stuff from the Inquisitor and from Callis that feels like in the more cartoonish space, the more, the more melodramatic space, the more, you know, this kind of genre mood space and Ezra is feels like Aladdin television show and not even Aladdin movie and it's just not hitting for me in the way I want and again first episodes are hard

maybe he'll find it and maybe he'll just grow on me generally but right now this Ezra isn't quite where I it's not the the Ezra character stuff isn't compelling because partly the the performances aren't compelling what is compelling is the six zero G gunfight. It's really cool. Sabine sets a billion bombs in a place and then hits the gravity

turns the gravity off also and everyone starts floating and Canaan gives someone a jump kick and shoots a bunch of people and that stuff's all great. I love that Sabine is someone with gadgets. Yeah. Girlie is a gadget

girl and she will have the the right gadget for the scenario. She will have her gunpowder spray paint. She will have bombs. Like a thousand bombs. That cutback that shows her like all of the bombs on the anti-grab room. And there's like, I don't know, 20 of them placed around the room is extremely funny to me.

She's crafting them in bulk. Like she is. She's got the mod that lets you do bulk crafting all it was. And then we get them fleeing. And this is the moment that Zeb, does something kind of fucked up. Yeah. Well, he doesn't mean to.

I think that's key. I think he means to. He was so ready to leave that kid behind. Are you kidding? I don't think he's shoving that kid out of the way. I think he's saying, I'm getting on board our ship first. Now, so I think it's negligent. I don't think that it's malicious.

You know what I mean? He grabs Ezra by the backpack, which is like a huge thing. I don't know if he ever loses this, but he's constantly wearing a backpour. backpack. It was driving me up the wall. I was like, dude, take your backpack off. Chill. Al, you're giving me looks. Backpack, he's, he's, he's, he's a kid with a lack of resources.

He's not going to school. You would, you would have separate him from his life. Take your jacket off. Calm down. Get cargo pants. He doesn't trust them. I know, I know that's what it's signaling. I get it.

He's ready to go at all time. I get it. He's ready to go. Yeah. He's got the. suitcase packed he isn't unpacked I hate him He can't open his heart up yet

And you know how annoying is we Like a little kid with a huge backpack And their whole thing is like I always got my backpack on And like I understand why Zeb did what he did Get the fuck out of my way So they're running to the door And Zeb yanks him by the shoulder And runs past him

And then an impure And then Calus grabs him by the backpack And Zeb is like All right come on Maybe he'll wear that shit And let's him lets him, hits the door button.

He says, sorry, kid, you did good. It closes the door on him. Callis thinks he's got a little prize. He does seem rather distraught by the outcome. Because he knows he fucked up. Yeah. It's like when you do, it's like, it's like you cut someone off in traffic and you caused a car accident.

Yes. And you were like, I just want to fuck with you a little bit. And now like people might be dead and like a bunch of people have been like. And I am driving away. Yep. He comes into that cockpit, and he's like, yeah, the Imperial's got him. Well, first, they're like, what happened to him? He's like, I thought he was with you.

Yeah, I forgot he was because I thought he was with you. They tried to pull that. And then is it Hera who uses his full name? She's like, Garizab Arellios. And I was like, damn, we got a Garazep on board. And then he says, he says, don't go easy on him. just a kid. No, they won't. The Empire? No, they won't. You know they won't. On the force sensitive kid? He doesn't know he's forced sensitive. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. He doesn't

have called it right. I don't think they are going to, like, they wouldn't have gone that hard on this kid. Like, well, let's get to this, because the next thing that happens is Callis comes to interrogate him. And it's, there's an interesting beat here that I don't know what's make of. We get, again, we're going to get a little bit of, like, revealing a bit of Ezra's character, but you know, Ezra's like, I don't know anything. I just met those guys. Like, there's no point interrogating me.

And Calth is like, I know. I don't care. You're bait. Like, they're gonna come back and like, that's your value to me. And Ezra says, people don't come back for me. Real rave vibes, huh? Just like,

hey, kids, stay here. I'll be right back and they never came back. And so Ezra's like, that's not how, like, people don't do that for me and callus comes and looks more close that he leans in he reaches out for his shoulder and he and the kid flinches

and calis backs off like makes like he's pulling some lint off his shoulder and like dust his shoulder off and walks out it's an odd little moment mhm callus is seeing himself in the street rat we're going to get some

I don't know like that's part of it like where he came from Anyway, he sends in the Stormtroopers to, like, turn him over and get his shit, and they do the worst job of it. They take his backpack, and they take, like, a column or something. It's got, like, the biggest novelty D20 fucking thing in there. I can't. And they don't find it. I don't know how.

I don't know how. And then, yeah, then we get the moment. We get him, like, stumbling into meditation, into forced meditation. He kind of, like, tries to open the, what's up? Yeah? He just stumbles into that real, real, real. He's, like, in a bad mood, too. He, like, throws it.

He's like, he throws it at the wall and then he, like, puts his hand in, or his face in his hands, and he's, like, in this, like, meditative pose. And then shit pops off immediately. I think it just senses a force user nearby, which, again, bad opsec. Like, I don't know. It's like, he's like, I'll open it with my mind. It happens. He's surprised by it.

Yeah. Well, I feel like we're getting into, like, a lot. little bit of like Jojo's bizarre adventure rules with the force here, which is that like the stand users, which are like the powered up guys and Jojo's will always attract each other. So you could always have the like shortcut of like, oh, these people are in the same place because they have to be. And it feels like that's sort of what's happening with Kieran and Ezra here. We got to keep calling. Kieran is the guy who works on the show. It's Kieran, whatever his name is.

yeah um but yes you're right yes there is that like the magnetic pool of force users and i think this is the force is opening it up for him in a sense right like it's not so i'm watching this he's not angry he throws it down and he's pissed off and then he looks resigned oh yeah i know yeah yeah yeah he's trying to calm himself down by meditating but he's angry at a second before that that's that's that's the bit where he's like he like glars at it and he's like fine and he's like i'm gonna calm myself down. I'm going to get my head right. I'm going to try to think of a plan. And while that's happening, it opens itself up to him. So it's not a, again, he's not trying to open it. He's just passively in meditate, clear your head mode. And I think that that's bad

opsec. I think that you, maybe, maybe Obi-Wan sent these out there, which, how did these get out there? I do not know. I do not know. But maybe it was like, even the littlest younglings need to be able to open this thing. They just need to have a little bit of force push, a little That's a good point. I mean, if you make discovering force abilities too hard, you end up with an MMO that doesn't fucking work. Right. And people are like...

What do you learn from this shit? Trust in the force? That's it. That's the only message. How that work out for the Jedi, Obi-W-W-W-W. So what I'm saying is that there's not much, like, if it fell into the wrong hands, it's not exactly like you'd be getting like this, you know, meet-up act. You're right.

whatever he specifically he's like don't come to the temple right the era of the temple is done do not come back the vibes are off yeah basically you will be got you will get got I it's basically you're right there's no way to

recouch this this is a bad corporate email sorry any surviving Jedi out there company shutting down effective immediately you don't have to turn your lightsaber back in don't if anyone come asking about the company, don't tell them shit.

Don't tell them anything. You know, if you have a computer, you should wipe it. Shred your company ID. Yeah, you have until 10 p.m. You're taking anything from your desk, but that's it. You got to get out of here. I do think when I heard this little speech, and I, is it the one that is at the end of episode two is a little bit extended, right?

Like, we don't get the full thing here, I think. It's a little extended, yeah, it's a little extended when we see it from at the very, very end of it when he's like watching it again or whatever. But I think don't return to the temple should be a bigger mantra in Star Wars. I think that, like, you should have characters that are like, you know what, spiritually, I don't think that we should go back to that place. There's no going back. You know who could stand to hear that?

Ray Palpatine. Excuse me, Ray Skywalker now. Oh, yeah, sorry. Ray Skywalker. She took Ben's last name, you know? Yeah. And Ben, Ben took his mom's last name? Which is, okay, again.

We should talk about that. His dad wasn't there. Right? So, Kylo Ren is born Ben. Give me the name Ben. And they don't name him Ben Organa. They name him Ben Solo. Solo, the last name that the fucking Imperial

guy game of Han? Was it one of you who pointed this out of the week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a co-host post that you put in Sith posting. It was a co-host post, yes, okay, it was, let me shout out the specific person. Yes, also you've revealed that we have a channel in our internal private discord called Sith posting. That's where the good posts go.

Yeah, this was from Tom Trek on co-host. One of my favorite things about the bizarre origin story, Solo, Star Wars story gives to Han solo's name is it means that at some point. after Return of the Jedi, Han and Leah would have to have had a conversation about what last name to give their son Ben. It could be Organa, which not only represents the late bail organa, one of the founders of the rebellion, but would also have kept

alive the memory of Alderan, which was destroyed by the empire at the cost of billions of lives. Or it could be Solo, which was a name given to Han by a guy at the airport. They called him Ben Solo. Bro. What are you? Come on. It's about Star Wars' ass name, though.

His name's fucking Ben. Yeah, and then solo. Yeah, I get it. And then it's solo. I get it. I get it. Ben Organa would also rip. I just, anyway.

Ben Argana would have been good. Anyway. So, yeah, you're right, though, Halley. I love this idea. Don't return to the temple as like a motto is great. I'm going to use it by real life. I got to send this clip to Filoni, man. Get back to your roots, Filote.

Don't go back to the temple. Yeah. Uh-huh. He's doing it. He's going to the temple too much. So it's cartoon time He breaks out immediately Immediately by basically being like hey guys come in here

And hides behind the stairs You can't hide behind But I'm sorry I did burst out laughing when he Like he just disappears He's like by guys and vanishes And there's this long beat with the two stormtroopers And one just sort of looks at like just slowly

Leans and looks at the other Like did we really just fuck this up that badly And there is just this like I don't know, it's just a very good bit of physical comedy that they're both like Which is important because we don't have battle droids anymore So stormtroopers are gonna have to pull double duty

As guys are afraid of sometimes And guys who are hilarious And that's gonna be tough But we see a lot of good evidence That they got a good handle on this at least In this episode Also so because he He busts loose immediately goes back to his power move

He gets on the comms He hears the call come in that like the ghost has returned and he lures away a bunch of the troops to a different to the wrong part of the ship. The escape there's a lot happening here. The escape is smartly

says not everybody. We're just put people in both places. I'm not an idiot. Like let's just, you know, cover our bases, which I thought was a good beat. I mean, escape goes really easily. Once again, we get a great big old explosion and call is nothing sucked out in the space.

Like they really fuck up that star destroyer. Yeah. Yeah. Sabine does the explosive graffiti thing again and they get away. That's fun. And then there's more of an episode because... There's so many vents, so many vents for Ezra to swarm his way into. Star Wars rebels. That's an immersive sim. That's an immersive. So right. There's a vet like so many ways you can go about your missions. If you can hide behind the staircase and lose the the line of

fight from the guards. There's so many ways to solve the different problems. You could use your charisma. You could talk to them. You could hack. If you get the Stormtrooper helmet, you get the radio message where you learn about the, you unlock the wookie side quest. Because you can still complete that objective.

If you just do critical path, you get the bad end. Then you don't rescue the wookies. I love that every member of the ghost is kind of like a different style of play that. You go to the Zeb route, it's like very combat heavy. You can go the Ezra route, which is like great. very tech focus, Sabine has gadget. You know, it's all like different pathways, different perspectives.

You could play the game a bunch of different times and see it from different ways. Anyway, they go to Kessel. And let me tell you. I would say it's high chaos. The Empire locked that shit down. The Empire said the Pike Syndicate has that. No, no, no, no, no, no.

We have that. If I had known that in one week we were going to watch this. But hang on. Is this serious? Hang on. Hang on. Are they seriously on Kessel?

Yeah, they're on the Tesla. Or are they in the transfer station? No, they're on. Kessel. They go to Kessel. How did they not fly through the Ma? They literally go to Kessel. Maybe the Empire fixed that stuff. You can't just... No, you can't. They can't. No. No, the Ma is the

Maugh. Maybe they went a legit way. I don't know what to tell you. They went to Kessel. This is Kessel. Kestle with a K. Yep, they go to Kessel. I know. Yeah. It's K-Sycemind K-76. Yeah. They get there, no problem. I don't know

what Hans Sol is big deal. By the way... Hold on, hold on. We skipped over the part where, um, we skipped over the part where Ezra says, uh, my uncle, the emperor. Oh my God. Hold on. We did skip that.

We did skip him saying, my uncle the emperor. He uses the uncle. He says the uncle works at Nintendo. Let him be free. We also skipped that at one point, someone, it may be canaan, says, ghost, raise the ramp, reminding me that the ghost must be have a person inside. as a mind again He also

When asked what his name is Says Jabba the Hut He does say Java's famous Jabba is a known And like known People know about Jabba the Hut P-O-I Yes

Uh-huh We also missed One other very important thing I'm excited to get more of Harrah's gun sounds cool This is a small detail But Hera has a gun That doesn't sound like everyone else's blaster

And I want to know what's up with it that's all I my big takeaway from this like opening bit was that like I'm waiting for a hair arc I need a hair arc I hope there's one coming there is I do know a little bit hair has history okay I don't want her to just be on the ship we're checking in with her she's a support class I want some hair time yeah I don't know if it's good or not but I do know something about her okay so two things because so because you're the radio message that she tells the gang that the wookies are on Castle, they go to Kessel.

But also, I guess Kallis is pretty smart. They realize, they bring him the helmet and they realize their comms were being eavesdropped on. And that's how they, he was, he lured those troops away from the dock. And Kallis looks at it and then smiles as he realized what other message was overheard on those coms. And he knows that this is why he's able to do the ambush

is because he realizes that they are going to go to Kessel based on that information. I swear to God in the background Back out of Castle, it looks like Kyle Katarn's ship is there, like something like it. But anyway, also, I feel like we run to the same problem, though, Austin, that you mentioned in solo, which is that, like, main character, wukies just don't look good in Star Wars shit. They were skinny. They're so skinny. But not in the, like, not in the, like, these wookies is malnourished and they're, like, you know, beating them here.

They haven't even been working in the Spiced Mines yet. And their fur is still like glossy and shit. Like these are like, you know, they look like well-kept wookies. But they're not Chubata. But they just look wrong. Chewy's the one. Chewy is him, you know? They also have the thing.

I said before everyone kind of looks like an action figure like a vinyl toy. They look like they have a head unit that's attached to the top of their torso. Yes. And the hair cover. Do you know what I mean? Like the hair. It's one, like the Lego piece is that one piece with the over the shoulder hair. Hate it.

And you attach it. And then it moves freely. It is, it is truly like, oh, we took these action figures and made them life size. Like, what if your favorite action figure was like? You know those videos. That is what they look like. No, I don't. But yes.

It's like, it's like this is what a real life Barbie would look like. and it looks fucked up. Like, that's this vibe. That is this. We skipped another important gag earlier because there's lots of gags. It is a cartoon for children. The Zeb pretending to be a wookie. They try to get on the ship the first time by pretending that they're delivering a lost wookie,

a slave wookie that they left behind. And they open the door and they're like, that's not a wookie. And someone, I think it's Hara, is like, oh, yeah, it's a rare. So you don't know about the rare wookie types. You've never seen a rare hairless rookie. And then Zeb goes, I can't do it. I can't do a Chewbacca. I can't do a wookie voice.

And neither can Zeb. And he's like, oh, forget it. It's good. It's a good guy. It's really funny. Anyway, yeah, they fight their way to get the wookies. It's a big fight sequence. The highlights of it are what Rob already said.

One of the children, wookies, runs away, and Ezra has to give chase to try to save them. And then when things look very dire at one point, Canaan has to say, it's a fun little exchange because one of my favorite things about this crew that becomes clear it's actually clear right away in the first episode they have like little signals uh in the first episode they have like the side like like double tap the side of their leg to set the signal that like it's go time to one another and then here they talk about uh they they they tell hera canaan calls hera and he's like you know we're going to run the 22 pickup and everyone's like we're going to do we're not going to what are you talking about we can't do the 22 pickup we like

seriously? And he's like, we don't have a better option. And eventually Ezra says to Canaan 22 pickup, care to let me in on the secret? And Canaan says, kid, I'm about to let everyone in on the secret. And then he hops over the crates and does some Jedi shit as he like slow walks forward and like dodges some blaster vaults by leaning different directions, like in the Hood Cowboy Bebop video. And then he puts together his lightsaber, which has been in two parts since he got it back from Ezra. He's like, it's like the belt clip, like, handle and then like the emitter at the top. And he like reaches out and puts it back together and draws it and it's, and everyone stops.

No fucking Jedi is here. And then they start shooting at him and he does Jedi shit, you know. Weaving to the blasterbolts was so cool. It was really cool. Kudlin Voss, who? Like, truly, this is my guy. Obi-Wan who? Like, wiped up, swagy as shit.

shit you know little pony tail in the shit freddie prince junior is not easy to pull off it's not he's doing it rocking it you know you know i just think that's that's great to me well also i also the little things that uh says right before this when i just throw ourselves into the pit this this sense of like doing this is our death warrant yeah like at this point this is going to be uh this He's going to have ramifications. And yeah, in the middle of this, Ezra runs off to find a little looky. Zeb goes, carabast, which I guess is one of the curse words of his species, of his culture.

We will apparently hear more of that in the future. And we get some cool, like, again, I think you're right, Allie, which is like, I want more hair of stuff. It's cool that she's constantly doing sick, like, spaceship maneuvers all the time and blasting tie fighters up. I like to see a tie fighter blow up. The tie fighters, by the way, blow up in that, like, bright white explosion, from the original trilogy versus, like, more traditional explosions, which is, I wanted to bring that up because it's such a, like, it's so stark against this animation style and visual language that, like, the slight realism of the explosions is, like, very interesting choice.

I wonder if that sticks around, but. I'm curious what we'll feel about it in the future, because it's, like, one of those things that are I was kind of, like, surprised by it. It wasn't bad, but it did feel different, you know? Yeah. Maybe something's in Thai fighters that makes them blow up. different. I don't know. They get the kid. There's a confrontation

briefly with Callis. You know, Ezra claims that he works alone and then Canaan shows up to be like, no, you don't. We're here for you this time, buddy. And I have a lightsaber. And fuck this guy. And reflects the blasterbolt back out Callis and Kallis falls off the bridge and luckily catches the thing and

kills a stormtrooper. I know. Just for like just for talking shit, basically. You know. We're really enjoyed mode with them. We are. They are not real people.

We're with grievous, yeah. There were at least three Wilhelm, Wilhelm yells in this episode. That one was so loud. It was like, oh. It was so loud. I was like. I'm not happy about it, but, you know. Wilhelm scream, Wilhelm yell.

Scream is right, I think. Wilhelm scream. Yeah. And then the rest of the episode, Wookie's get reunited. Mm-hmm. Well, and then the dark night of the soul. Dark five minutes of the soul. Dark five minutes of the soul.

He leaves the ship. He goes back to his home. These wookies are too human. Nothing good is happening here with these wookies. No. By the empire, I would just leave these wookies alone, vibes off. Yeah, the vibes are bad. I don't really want.

What happened to the cool wookies? I thought we were going to get a bunch of those as our labor force. You remember how cool wookies used to be? No, these are bad wookies. The wooks feel different now? Who's the silverback wookie from? from Chrysanton

Cry Chris That dude That dude Is good He's fun Black Chrisanton

Chrisanton Yeah He was cool You don't miss The old Wookies You miss Being young

And in the old Republic And not living Out of the empire Yeah Damn true Got you He goes back to

His little apartment In the sky He lives In like Emptied out Water Tower or Something

He has such a depressing It's a the space needle? It is like a space needle. Yeah, that's what it is actually, right? She climbs that tower. And then we get the sick thing of like he realizes that Canaan has followed him. He said goodbye to everybody. Zet, he's like, you know, I guess you won't be seeing me around and Zeb is, Zeb says something kind of like fun. Not if we see you first. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then we have the big exchange. He stole from Canaan again.

He stole the lightsaber, right? Yeah. the lightsaber again. Oh, I thought he just still had the Holocron at this point. He gave the Holocron. Now he gave back the Holocron and took the lightsaber. Kinney's an ass kicking, but instead he gets a philosophical, like, mind-expanding ass-kicking in this exchange. He is sitting, he's standing in his room, and he senses Canaan behind him, and he says,

What's the force? The force is everywhere. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together, and it's strong with you, Ezra. Otherwise, you'd never have been able to open the holocron. So, what do you want? To offer you a choice. You can keep the lightsaber you stole.

Let it become just another dusty souvenir. Or you can give it back and come with us. Come with me and be trained in the ways of the force. You can learn what it truly means to be a Jedi. I thought the empire wiped out all the Jedi. Not all of us. Where do babies come from? to baby, and he says, well, it surrounds us and penetrates us, kid.

So, you know, strong with you. I do love the, you can let the lightsaber become another dusty souvenir line. Yeah. It's good. Like, this is the call to destiny, the call to adventure. Like, you can either retreat from it or, but you'll always know you, like, didn't heat it. Like, that this is that it will be a mark of your lack of courage or failure. And then the reveal that he wasn't there

Oh shit You know what? I thought he just left He literally didn't notice that He was doing the Luke Skywalker thing You're right He projected himself there Yeah

Which is like again the real move of like You don't know the power you're dealing with I wasn't even here Yeah And that's why we come back the ship he's meditating I don't know how I fucking miss this That's so important I totally miss that

I thought the time Allie is looking skeptical Yeah, I didn't, I mean, I also did not realize. Yeah. I thought he, like, went there after him. No. It's because the cut is pretty unambiguous to me. It is, we cut from, he's gone, where did he go?

And we cut to Canaan concentrating in his quarters. Yeah. And like, it's an empty door. It shows, you know, he looks up from the lightsaber to, like, give an answer, and he's gone, and he gasps. And then the next shot is him looking a little confused. And then we cut back to the ghost. and he's onboard the ghost doing Jedi shit, holding the holocron,

and then, like, floating it away and reopening it to watch Obi-Wan's message again, which... And then we get Obi-Wan's voice over this little montage of the whole crew. I was wondering how this landed. Like, I understand watching this show and having it be the first episode and feeling like, oh, I need the warm blanket of it being Obi-Wan's voice or opening with Darth Vader. um i like it because there's other jedi well there are but there aren't other Jedi masters

it's Yoda and and it's it's Obi-Wan and i don't know that anyone else lived right i i there's two things here one is like they're doing this because obi-one's not really in this show like you know what i mean so i don't i don't mind them putting the like i don't mind them anchoring us with Obi-Wan Kenobi. Allie, it's like when I use a gursive rock opening, you know what I mean? Or it's like, he's not in this season really, but I like giving the audience

a little bit of Obi-Wan here to situate what's happening here. Also, because Kane is so clearly, the thing I was going to say earlier is a thing I like about this setup that I hadn't thought about is Luke doesn't get his training from Obi-Wan. He gets a week, I mean, I don't know, Star Wars time

after learning that Grogu was with Luke for two years. Who the fuck knows? But, you know, he gets a little bit with Obi-Wan before they go rescue Princess Leia. And then they've rescued Princess Leia and Obi-Wan is dead. And then he eventually goes to Yoda and does the stuff on Dagabaa.

But, like, the promise of this show is we're going to get another Master Patelon situation of sub-sort. We don't know what Canaan's backstory is even. I don't know if Canaan was a Jedi knight or a Jedi master. I don't know, right? I don't know how old Canaan's supposed to be even. They might get into that, I hope.

But the sense that Ezra is going to have a relationship with his Jedi master is interesting to me because it means we can get some of – and it's like that's what the show is about and the way that I thought Clone Wars was going to be about Anakin and Asoka, but kind of wasn't as much. And we're staying on these characters. And so I don't mind us getting the little echo of Obi-Wan here. And also it is interesting to me, thinking about Canaan, thinking about being a Jedi and thinking about being told, don't do Jedi shit anymore. Don't go back to the temple. And here he is taking a Padawan and he feels the force wants him to do this is interesting. And him, listen to that message again and again where Obi-Wan says, like, in time a new hope will arise. And we know that like this is, he's speaking in terms of prophecy, that like, again, the chosen one

was once again out there and like just wait for all this to come into fruition. That's not how Canaan goes through the world, though. It lands totally differently because he's like, I am in the here and now. Yes. And like, if there's going to be a new hope, it got to make that shit. We got to find it. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

And so, like, that's the thing. It's where this moment of, like, this kid may not seem promising in that way, but this might be it. This, like, this might be where we find it. There are, there are two big things here for me that I can't stop thinking about. The first is there's so much conversation in the last, like, three months because Mandalorian is out and because, you know, the Asoka show was coming up and because other TV shows and stuff about how often have you seen someone on Twitter or on any social network

be like, you know, I thought there was almost supposed to be like five Jedi and suddenly there's a hundred Jedi during the Imperial era. It's like a constant Twitter thing now. Yeah. Natalie. I just retweet a meme about it. It's constant. And I think I've come around on it, partly because the galaxy is huge. And you could have a hundred Jedi and it doesn't matter, right? A hundred Jedi is no Jedi compared to the size of the galaxy. But also because it's an alternate, you know, a thing I said in a thread about this recently was just like, you know, to begin with, it was, it was always more archetypical than that, right? Like, Obi-Wan Kenobi was the night of the roundtable in exile or the old wizard of the hills, right? Or Yoda was the wizard of the wilds, right? Like, and you went there for training. And like, it was always meant to be a little more archetypical and more in that sort of sword and sorcery, you know, mythic space that we sometimes talk about. Star Wars veering between that and more grounded sci-fi stuff. And in that mode, there are other knights of the roundtable out there. There's always a night of the, you know, there's always a wandering

knight-errant who trains the local kid how to pick up the sword. There's not a limited number of those because those stories aren't meant to be material in that way. They're meant to be fleeting. You're in the world of the folk tale. And the local boy learns how to use the sword from the wandering knight, right? But the other half of it is just like, if there is just, even the material sci-fi version of this. The idea that like, yeah, there's a hundred Jedi out there and they're given the empire hell the best way they can. It's not enough to win the war. Some of them are hooked up with the rebellion. Some of them aren't. I'm kind of, I've kind of like settled with that being an okay thing. That's not that contrary to the idea that there aren't enough of them

left to constitute an order because the order used to be 10,000 of them. And why the fuck would Joe? Joe. No. Yes. No. Mace window is here. Jota's here. Jota fruit.

Why would, oh my God. He would love Jorba fruit. What is it? Jogun. He would love Jogun fruit. I know Yoda was just dining on some Jogun fruit. Remember how he lost his mind for military rations? Oh my God.

Oh, man. The flavor I quit. That's because now we know why, because he used to go to the Jedi Temple cafeteria where he was in prime, what do you call it? I've lost my words, but steak, you know, prime room. Yeah, yeah, he was eating, he was eating good. But what I was going to say is that Yoda, why would, Yoda's connection to the force has been deteriorating over like the past Luke's whole life, half of Anakin's, most of. of Anacons, really. Like, slowly, but surely, Yoda has, his relationship with the force has degraded.

Why the fuck on his deathbed as he's piecing out from this world, would he know how many people out there are carrying on the message of the force and are we practicing our force practicers, like, practitioners. Like, Yoda is not the end. It's funny to be like, you are the last Jedi. that Yoda's been on fucking Dagabah for a minute now, swapping it up. Why the fuck would he know anything about anything outside of Dagaba at this point? Like, I don't really think Yoda's meditating that much on Dagaba.

I think he's, I think he's mostly chilling. He's mostly being a little funny freak in getting fully into gremlin mode. He-hees and ha-haz and not really. not really engaging with the force. I mean, obviously, Dagabah is like the place where the force is super strong. That's new. That wasn't, you know, anyway.

I think there is also a little bit of, like, sorry, these great Jedi, like, they are Ronan now, and they're living as Jedi. Like, Kain has the skills, but he's married and he's doing crimes. He's doing crimes. Like, he is. Obi-Wan don't know about this life.

No. Obi-Wan wasn't running guns. he's just stealing lunch meat for his dog can't rules right yeah he was the most crime obi want i got up to and this and this the thing like i mean they're looking at luke is like we're going to inculcate you now in the ways of like being a jett i so that you can be the antithesis of your father what if canaan had found luke instead different world adventures adventures and that's what we're getting also rob i see you know what you're saying i closed out the stream and now I'm seeing the header image which is

absolutely filled with spoilers you can't unsee it it's just like multiple things I saw so many things where I'm like oh okay I see okay yep there's a lot of like what's going on in there and bed would be like stop looking at that they should put

some like I know it's so because this wasn't the flash out they're using for season one they should have just put a season yeah they should be different cover yeah just put a season one cover every time I'd open Clone Wars I was terrified that like I would see something in the because the seasons of it.

Totally. Totally. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but now it's just there. Now I know what 21-year-old Sabine looks like. So that's fine. Here's what I did appreciate

about the Obi-Wan speech. Yes. The one thing I did appreciate from it. One, I do feel like it's a handing off. Like, the Obi-Wan being here, I hope we never see him again throughout this Rebels show in general. Like, no distra-sack,

but hand it off. Can I answer if you do or don't? I'm going to, I think we're going to see him. We're going to see them, but it's, and I don't know how much. This is, that's fine. I have seen an Obi-Wan Kenobi seen in Rebels. It's one of the only things of rebels I've seen. It's one of the best scenes in Star Wars I've ever seen.

With this soft, Obi-Wan? Just wait. Okay. Let me tell you, this soft Obi-Wan gets hard. Okay. Yes. Okay. Yeah.

You know? Okay. I'm here for it. I'll be watching. I'll be watching, continuing. But I liked the romantic idea I had in my head that this was like, it was almost like Clone Wars itself, the symbol of Clone Wars itself handing it off to the rebels, handing off the torch to rebels to now take up, you know. And that's the second thing that I was. saying, I have two, two big ideas of

my head. The first one was the stuff with the Jedi, the hundreds of Jedi, blah, blah, blah, versus when we were young thinking there was only two Jedi left. The other one is thinking about the lack of, like, it's that message and at the beginning, it's that message and then

Vader being the one who speaks first, that is the transitional elements between Clone Wars and here. There is such an awkward feeling coming right from the end of season six to this. Yeah. I get why people, want us to go finish Clone Wars first, because it doesn't feel good to transition from where that story left off to here. And I'm like, good. I want to sit in that feeling. There was no

nice on-ramp to this. We leave with Yoda knowing what's to come, and then boom, here it is. We want to be with the people. I want to be with the people. This is what it was like to watch the show for the first time. We dig trenches. And we sit in them. Yes. I want to sit in this like. There's a confusion and a disunity of time happening here. It feels out of place to suddenly be here without... Like, we didn't even go rewatch Revenge of the Sith. Like, we could have watched Revenge of the Sith here to try to, like, make that smoother.

And we purposefully didn't do that. Like, I like feeling if I'd watch Clone Wars last year... Right. We're caught in the lurch. Exactly. And they have to play with that feeling. And I think doing stuff like the Obi-Wan message is them playing with that feeling a little bit.

showing a slightly different Obi-Wan is like, oh, yeah, time passed. You know what I mean? Or like, it's a different person's perspective on the world than the Clone Wars perspective. Well, he says, doesn't he say at the end, he says something about our trust, like what we have to, what we can rely on now is our trust, our faith, and our friendships. And our friendships. Like, you know what comes with friendship, a wee bit of attachment, like, you, you will have, like, you know, a, you will have, like, you know, a, a, you know, a, slight bit of attachment to the person. Like, I just, I love that that's the final message that we go out on is that like, oh, no, no, no, no.

The thing that's going to keep us strong as for, like, force sensitive people is by, is in our friendships. Yes, 100%. He's learned, has he learned that lesson? He's sitting with it. Oh, Obi-Wan can know. We needed to bro the fuck down. We need to bro down.

This is why, this is why the order failed. Yes. Because, because he started, uh, Working on the meat farm and like broing down a little bit. Like maybe he's broed down just a little bit. I think this is before the meat farm. I think this is probably from 15 years ago. I think this is a younger Obi-Wan still.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. But I think he's, I think he left his best friend and brother back on Mustafa. And then it's like, I fucked up. It took all this for me to realize I fucked up. You watched his buddy melt like an ear candle.

And was like, I feel like some of this might have been my fault. This never would have happened if we had a rumpus room in the Jedi or in the Jedi temple. It's so good. I see, yeah, and I like him, like, thinking about that. I love the shot of Caden just, like, sitting with that weight as we're opening the door. I like, you know, I'm a sucker for a spaceship that has everybody in their own little room

and they all, they're all doing their thing. And that's where you go to talk. Again, it has a video game. Houseboat. Give me the houseboat. I want to go on the houseboat. Do who else has a houseboat? Callis, and his houseboat is a Star Destroyer.

And he says to the Inquisitor, all right, it's time to go. This is Jedi shit. You're the Jedi guy. You're the guy who hunts them down. He used a lightsaber well. You know, he had a paddle on. I'm hyped. I'm ready.

I'm excited. I'm so, I'm so hyped to be in this. You know what I mean? This is a thing. I came out of this. And M.K. and I were like, I just watched like a bunch of this. And I wasn't allowed to because, like, we can't.

We can't do that. We can't do that to the show. But I was charmed. I was charmed. I was charmed. I was like, this is exactly what I needed tonight. Like, it's just a, it's a good vibe show. Are you ready for your homework assignments? Yes. Okay. So, I've broken the season down thus. Let me scroll up past error and e-surance and get back to the notes. All right. We've watched the shorts and spark over the resistance. Next week, we are our next episode, not next week. We're not going week. weekly, staying biweekly. We were watching droids and distress, fight or flight, and rise of the old masters. That's three episodes. They are standalone episodes. In general, while there are some arcs in rebels, there are lots of standalones. And I have read, I haven't really read. I've skimmed the summaries of these to look for like character names in the sense of like, um, Not even on like Obi-Wan Kenobi. Do you know what I mean? But in terms of like, Hera goes off to do this thing. And it's like, it's about her history or whatever, right?

So I'm looking for stuff like that to be like, and also just sometimes you see an episode titled Rise of the Old Masters and you're like, all right, I'm putting a star next to that one. That's probably a bigger one. That's going to be about some art. It might be the old masters in that way.

I bet it's old Jedi master shit. That's my guess. So we're going to watch those next three. Droid's in the Stress, fighter flight, I will put a full list of how we're breaking the episodes down. The big thing is that this season ends in a three-parter, and so I've kind of worked back from that.

We're going to end with a three-parter for our sixth episode of this season. Then there's another, then like before that, there are some stand-alones, and there's also a two-parter in the middle of the season, so that's going to be one episode. I'll put the full list in the episode description. But the important thing is next time we're watching three episodes, droids in distress, fighter flight, which is fighter, like a jet fighter, fighter flight

and then rise of the old masters so excited yeah that is in two weeks when we will get to that plus later this month we will be doing a Patreon show I think on Mandalorian I think we're doing the Mandalorian

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