A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 72: Taris Pt. 3 (Knights of the Old Republic 03)

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

Oh Taris, how we've missed you! Your glittering towers, so cleanly representing the world's heavily stratified racialized class divide. The smell of swoop fuel in the air, the distinctive odor of unde...rworld betrayal. The wildlife! You know, Rakghouls and death droids and the slimiest crime lords this side of Nar Shadaa. Ah, Taris, it's good to be back! Oh. I've just been handed a note about the fate of Taris. Next Time: First 3 parts of the Trials on Dantooine (through the Corruption in the Grove) + Mandalorian Raiders + The Dead Settler Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Ricardo Contreras (@a_cado_appears) Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zackney, joined by Ali Akampora, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We are, as always, supported by you are listeners via patreon.com slash civilized. So head over there if you'd like to support the show and get access to all our Q&A episodes. And this month, I believe, some behind the scenes recorded after dark discussions of our time aboard the Galactic Star Cruiser, aka the Halcyon. R-I-P, the Halcyon. Yeah, now done. Right?
Starting point is 00:00:42 This is, as of this record. Is it over? Today's the last day. As a recording this, I believe. Feel like shit, just want her back. Honestly, we all want to go back. We all want to go back so badly. We miss it so much.
Starting point is 00:00:57 We've been sending each other posts from the Reddit, from the Galactic StarGrews or Reddit. We miss it there. And I would go back. I would go back. I really, I. It's so expensive, though, guys. I know. Okay, yeah, ignoring the money, ignoring money.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Big ignore. Huge ignore. I mean, that's what I was doing while I was there. I was big ignoring it. Actually, if you listen to the podcast, I was not ignoring it. I was constantly thinking about it. You're feeling it rather keenly. This is the problem is we go back and come back and be like, that was so fucking mid.
Starting point is 00:01:35 But for the like, but also there's like two things. One, it's like, I could do it better. I would do better this time. And that's a trick on us. That's the way this thing works is it convinces you that if there was a problem with the park or the experience, it was on you for not planning better. It was me. I wasn't confident. I wasn't bold.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I wasn't talking to the right sasha. I, okay, there's that. It was the right one. I keep thinking about how your big thing was like, I just have, I have problems like, you know, speaking to people and you did do that. You did do that. You did speak to people. You did. You deserve credit for.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yes, you put yourself out there. Yeah. And you spoke to a brick wall is what happens. Anyway. By that I don't think of her. Yeah. Shots you swoop. And genuinely, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Oh, wait, we heard from swoop, right? Yeah, we heard from Swoop. Wait, we heard of swoop? Someone reached out and was like, Swoop says high. So I think it was, I don't know if it was Swoop or if it was one of Swoop's friends. We'll look at it, but we have Swoop's Pit Crew.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, this is the thing, like, what do I want to go back for? I think this time around I would just like dress with my fucking Star Wars get up and be like, let's lock this bar down. Yeah. And just like hang out and talk to fellow like passengers and be like what's up.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And what if we like brought a board game? Yeah, that. That would be smart. Or like, you know what I mean? What if we went as Star Wars in character game designers? Oh, that's very funny. That's very cute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's very, we should do that. Did you see, did you all see this thing that's that a fan made that's extremely funny, which is the live map of the final voyage as it goes? Someone built, someone re-built the like. So for people who are listening, when you go into the. the thing, you get this map on, you go into one of your bedrooms, you get this live map of like the ship as it's going from place to place. And it's like the Star Wars map of the galaxy sort of. And it updates live. And someone just made the, like has remade it basically
Starting point is 00:03:43 similar to the way the TB is set up. And then they've timed it out to track the Star Cruiser according to the time that it goes on through this final voyage, which I don't think has started yet. No, it's the it looks like it's the end of their first night. Oh, it is, you're right, because they're at, like, Kuat.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I remember this. I remember looking out. Yeah, they're not up to do yet. Yeah, they're not up to two yet. Yeah, that's very fun. Yeah. I remember, like, having trouble sleeping that night and just, like, watching the map tick
Starting point is 00:04:11 and then, like, staring out the fake window. Oh, just changed to mine. It just did the zoom into the slightly closer version. Oh, man. It's good. It's very funny how much we've turned on it in a pond. Let me go back. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Let us go home. But you know what's worse? Real life? What? Real life is worse. Real life sucks shit. I'm over it. I'm over the vibes.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. I saw it was like a Star Wars bar in L.A. where people go in costume and such. Yeah. Scum and villainy. It doesn't look like it's what we want though. It's not in character enough. That's fine, but we weren't that in character.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I've heard it's pretty cool. I've heard it's, I haven't been. I've driven by it a bunch. We should go. This is, maybe this is what we need. If you're out there and you are tuned in to Star Wars cruises or Star Wars LARPs or Star Wars or Star Wars or Star Wars cosplay events, et cetera, and like, and like, Disney occasionally
Starting point is 00:05:12 will do like, oh, it's a Star Wars cruise and it's like, I don't know, unless it's really good. Not a, yeah. But like, tell me what's out there. Let us know. Do the research for us. and let us know where we should spend money next time on stuff, you know? I want to go on another pilgrimage. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. Like, I want to pack my little rucksack, slink it over my shoulder, and go out into the world, and into space. Are we just fivaling now? Yeah, we're fivaling now. Okay. We could go anywhere. You know this, right? We could go to a different nation, world, in the world.
Starting point is 00:05:51 in the world and learn about it. We should go to Tunisia. Yeah. I was just about to say that. Wait, what? We should go to fake tattoo or it's real tasters. That is not old. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Hang on. I'm not familiar with this. What are you talking about? In Tunisia, the sets from Tatooine are just there still, Rob. Oh. They left them there. They left them there. They're still there.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Niamos. We can go to like your own to that. Yeah, you know, you always go to shitty English sea front. Don't worry. Hey, what's that smell? Oh, Brexit means they can unleash raw shit into the water. That's the empire. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Fair enough. Fair enough. You just have a little speaker on us playing the Niyamos theme as we walk around the waterfront. We could get a tour of the McLaren Technology Center and be like, ooh, it's the spaceport on Coruscott. This is the thing that made it good, was that we just vanished into the world of Star Wars. where we didn't need to think about the real world. Exactly. Let's go to Lake Como.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Lake Homo? Let's just go to Lake Homo? Excuse me? That's where Anakin and Padmay got married. Oh, we should go there. Also, Drif Kony lives there, I think, still. Gotcha. Probably.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Basically, all of the third Oceans movie is them finding a reason, a justifiable reason to hang out in Italy. That's the second one. The second, sorry, you know what? That's a quick, quick draw there. I've seen all of those movies maybe a thousand times. I love the Oceans franchise. I just love to watch, you know, some heists, some hijinks, some tricks. Here's the thing is if we did it again, I would just still do smuggler because it was fun.
Starting point is 00:07:46 We'd all just commit. This time we'd all smuggling crew. Or we try to do everything. But what if we got a different, we can't, we can't even talk about this because it's not real anymore. People, another thing is people have shown us their cast members. We've seen like people's, I've seen other croys. I've seen other wraiths. We've seen our wraith as a croix.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We did. I don't even. I don't even, yeah. I can't even think about that. Wait, we did see that? Maybe I haven't shown you that video. I'll send it to you later. I don't think I've seen this.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I think I showed it to Allie in person at a bar the other night. Oh, maybe. I can't believe that man is good enough action that you could be both. characters. I just don't believe it. No, it comes across as Wraith doing a Croy. Like watching it, Raith was, for people don't remember, Wraith was the smuggler guy, like the manager of Gaia, the Galactic pop idol. And when he does Croy, he's Wraith in my mind. And so it's like, Wraith is running a scam where he's pretending to be Croy. That's what it comes across as. I want to go when he's Croy. And I want to be like, I see what's going on here. And then behind the scenes, they're all like, I hate the
Starting point is 00:08:50 repeat customers. Yeah. Truly. Right, maybe. Go donate money to charity, piece of shit. Where are you here again?
Starting point is 00:08:57 We don't get this. Anyway. So let us know where we should go. Yeah. We're ready for another point. I would love to support a small cool Star Wars like Warp or like a... Yeah. What's the Star Wars Jericho cruise?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Right. Exactly. Exactly. Uh-huh. People don't know. Chris Jericho, wrestler, Supreme. Who earlier today, we said,
Starting point is 00:09:19 Ali, you and I talked about Chris Jericho. Marco earlier today, we were getting coffee, we said, terrible person in real life. I wouldn't want to be in the ring with anybody else. Number one person if I had to wrestle. I think he's the greatest of all time. I believe that. I do.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Respect the work. Politics to me. Uh-oh. Well, the debate is settled, folks, right here on AMCA. Greatest wrestler of all time. The greatest wrestler of all time. And, hey, you know, we're here for all kinds of classics. experiences.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You know, there's a new greatest fighter of all time in the world of Star Wars. Uh-huh. And it's St. Zana. Okay. It's all of our OCs. I'm hoping. Did we all go back and finish our duels? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I did. It was tough. Rob? Dupes ain't wired that way. I'm increasingly worried about Dupts. You're going to turn a corner. We're about to turn a corner. Dup's doesn't need the money.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Deps doesn't need the dark-sided posts. Also, Bendack is. just hanging out. Everyone's like, oh, there's a bounty on him. We should kill him. Oh, Vendek has murdered people for fun. In the ring. Yeah, and I murdered him in the ring for fun. I murdered him for fun, but I didn't
Starting point is 00:10:33 get the bounty on him. And now I can never go back to that planet. What do you mean? Taris is fine. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Should we go over a high-level summary of what happened, Rob? Do you have one for people listening along? Bum-b-b-bomb-bomb. Oh, Arctu-Tarris.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Gosh, the high-level summary. Well, last we left our intrepid heroes, they were about to infiltrate the base of the Blackville car. Yeah. It's not as awesome as you might think. No. It's not.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I tried to walk around and there was like door closed. Do you remember last time I was like, it was cool to do an episode that was like I had a big dungeon in it? Well, guess what, folks? This is three of those in a row, basically. Brooken up by, hey, it's Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You got to have some swoop. racing going on. You know what? We built a swoop racing game for you folks. Do you like it? We got too many games this time. So I'm happy about that. Too many games, a turret. And a puzzle. And a lights out puzzle. In the middle of the, what was the lights out puzzle? In the Sith base where you rescue the guy? Uh-oh. Someone left someone to die. I mean, listen. Oh, yeah, I did do that. Okay. Okay. So you go through the Black Volkar base. You find the, the mod for the swoop. So you can go to go win the big swoop race, then Gadden, the leader of the hidden Bex, is like, you know what? You should be our champion.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You'll ride the swoop. So you ride the swoop. And what do you know you win? You brought it back to Gaden? You know what? I guess you do have options. Do you have options. So I will say, even though I would love to play DUPS as like a, you know, hey, I'm in
Starting point is 00:12:18 it for myself. the kick the puppy aspect of like the dark side it's just it no every time the game's like do you want to do this like needlessly awful thing or the normal thing and I'm like normal for me thanks anyway you enter the swoop race you win the swoop race and then Brejik remember the evil ex-lieutenant of the hidden backs comes out and the prize is the prize is is a Jedi Bastila. Uh-huh. But who's in like a, not quite a slave Leia outfit, but like arms showing. Quite the corset. It's a corset. She is. She's giving. She's giving. She's giving. Okay. But was she wearing those clothes when she crashed in the middle of Jedi met?
Starting point is 00:13:08 She didn't take them off. She didn't change. She didn't tell us let's go to Uniclo. Her normal street. Her normal street. You are going to see that different. And also. she would have if she she would have told you where to fucking go if she wanted to go change so she's she's mean she's so mean yeah I'm I love her I'm about to be dark-sighted though it was like the day after the Lauren Bobert thing happened oh my God it's just like oh shit is Jai Boert oh my God Anyway, what happens after that? Hokey old religions are all in good, but nothing beats the push-up effect of a good corset.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So from there, you get, Bastille's like, we got to get off this planet, and the next time you cruise by the canteena on the lower levels, candorous is there. Ron Perlman looking guy. I met him up top, actually. I met him at the top.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I mean, I wonder if they just spawn him in whichever canteena you go into. That one's, yeah. Yeah. He told me, once you're ready to go, swing by the bottom one. But I ran into him on my way back to do more dueling up in the top one, which is interesting. Anyway, can't Ron Perlman's here, space Ron Perlman's here. Which he sounded more like Ron Perlman. Instead, Cantor just kind of sounds like a normal Joe.
Starting point is 00:14:39 As he tells you that he's got a plan, he's going to betray his boss. Oh, God, what's his name? Davick. Davick. Yeah. He's going to betray his boss, steal his ship, but he's got to get the codes to escape the Sith, the Sith blockade. Right. And he needs you to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Sends you into the base. First, you got to acquire the good Astromack unit. Woo! You know, the T3M4. And it's such a good Astromac. You were. I was like, Natalie, you're going to get T3. I was like, y'all, I have, I know that the, there's a mission for the asteroid, I'm like, am I going to miss it?
Starting point is 00:15:19 I have this left. I'm so scared right now. I'm shaking my boots. There are, you know, this is fair. There is a, there are, I think, some, there's either, there are a couple of, there's at least one missable companion in the game. I don't know if the others are actually missable or if I know one of them you need a high score and something to get the most out of them, but I don't know if that's actually just to recruit them. It might not be. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah. Either way, armed with the Astromack, you infiltrate the Sith base. Well, infiltrate's kind of a strong word for it. You unlock the door to the Sith base, run around the halls a lot,
Starting point is 00:15:54 unlocking stuff, opening rooms full of Sif, killing bunches of Sif. You fight your way down to the lower levels where you come across the Sith governor, who is like, cool, let's do a Sith duel. That dude doesn't even have his lightsaber yet.
Starting point is 00:16:09 He doesn't even have a fucking, he doesn't even have, the force. And he does use the force, but he is a sword. Yeah. He has to level it. Well, he says they'll give me a lightsaber if I win this. But these sith ain't shit. Like, it just sounds, it just sounds pretty whack, honestly. If I kill it, if I killed this many junk, I got a, I get my own lightsaber. I'm like, good God. That was actually, they're running the, the boy scouts here. Believe it or not, a kind of hard fight for me, because I'm still level four. I haven't leveled up yet because I'm doing this stupid exploit that everyone says is the best way to play. It's not actually
Starting point is 00:16:41 the best way to play this game but it's the most horrible it's hard this game has been hard that fight was hard um because he's getting frozen sucks yeah he'll just lock someone down and let me tell you if he blocks the other people down and then one v1's my level four ass beating the shit out of me um but about i'm we're done right so i can at the beginning of this next once we come back to play again i'm leveling the fuck up i'm going to be your level again it's going to be fine so do you are you just sitting on like four levels i'm sitting on oh my god And there were all going to be levels of the new, of the next class we get. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:17:15 That's why people do this. And I've never done it before. And my guess is it would be fine. You know what I mean? I've never done it before. And I've always beaten this game just fine. But I'm like, all right, let me try it. Let me see if I feel the difference in any real way.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So we'll see. Yeah, it's worth doing. Oh, yeah. Once you kill him, you take the codes for launching Mataris off his corpse. Canderus takes you to meet Dabek. Davick, who's the voice actor for Davick? Because it sounds like it's a real one. It's like, oh, we have an actor here.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Someone named Charles Dennis, let's see, behind the voice actors. This can't be, this is, it's all he's ever done. You're kidding. He's so... He's just a guy. He has such strong, I've done like Five Law and Orders energy. He does have that. He does have exactly that.
Starting point is 00:18:04 He's done some TV, it looks like, well, no, this is writing. He's a writer. He's written stuff. nothing I've ever heard of so I'm going to keep scrolling actor okay he's been in some stuff that I've never heard of he's in some video games here and there
Starting point is 00:18:23 this is the this might be the biggest thing well you know he was in Doom 3 right he was in he was an American dad for five episodes he was in Black Ops 4 you know he's like been in stuff but yeah
Starting point is 00:18:39 Uh, he's a, he's a, um, he's one of the rear admirals in mass effect, one. Uh, that, I've probably seen him in that, you know, or heard him in that. He was in law and order, the video game, law and order two double or nothing. Uh, I feel like that counts. That counts. Um, he was in the Star Wars, the Clone Wars video game, Ullick Keldroma. From, from, from, the guy. Yeah, why the fuck is Ullik Kaldroma in the Clone Wars video game?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I didn't even know there was a Clone Wars video game. This is not the TV show Clone Wars video game. This predates the show, I think. Maybe it's like a holocron? It's probably a holocron. It's probably a holocron. Anyway, I don't know. He's not like a guy in the way that you might think.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He does like a space New York accent. A little Italian, a little Jewish, you know, a little. He's a little nasely. A respectable business. Right, he's a respectable businessman. You don't want to get on the wrong side of Davick Kang. You know? I love him.
Starting point is 00:19:47 He's great. And who's the slightly dopey, like, bounty hunter that is his lieutenant, the one? Calo. Chalo, Norde. What a ridiculous little character. He's a little guy. He just looks so silly. And he's clearly the, he's now supplanted candorous as the top enforcer for this gang.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And you just got, what you got to do, is you've got to steal that ship and get the, get the codes for it. So you run around the Ebenhawk, the name of Davick's ship. Not the Millennium Falcon, different ship. Wallace and Volts, you cut to the Sith fleet in orbit
Starting point is 00:20:26 above Terrace. And the high inquisitor is there, but they're calling him Malik for some reason, but it looks like the same guy. just bald with like the, the, the crimson face paint, yeah. And he's like, fuck this planet. And his admiral's like, but sir, there's millions of people, billions of people down there.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And now it's like, fuck this planet. We can't let this lady do battle meditation. We got to kill everyone on this planet. That's how scared I am. You can't let her vibe under no circumstances. This is monstrous. Is that like Carth's buddy? That's Carts, dude.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yes. Yes, 100%. They're still good in him, Kark. I can feel it. Saul Krakh, the admiral for Malik. He looks like he did not sign up for this show. He 100% is like, wait, are we
Starting point is 00:21:20 the baddies? Like it literally is him realizing that Sith means killed millions of people like it's not a big deal. I might, the thought might have crossed my mind when I did Star Wars Pearl Harbor on my former buddies. Like I might have had a moment where I was like, you know
Starting point is 00:21:35 what? This feels weirder. This feels weirder. This feels weirder than I thought it would, but apparently not. Anyway. Can I tell you something else, which is that cut scene played for me right after, maybe it was after Candace took me to Davick from the canteena, and the canteena music played behind the entire. Video games are magical. They're just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So, yeah, they just start bombing the place, huh? Who needs a death star? So first you steal the ship. Right, yes, yes. And you have your fight with, um callow and kick his at he's surprisingly easy i found he was you didn't live up to the billing and then he there's kind of a weird bit where he's like ha ha he does the star war look there's some rhyming action happening he's like aha you'll never stop me my thermal detonator there's a weird
Starting point is 00:22:25 awkward little scene where he's like huh this Sith bombardment's really bad huh and then he blows himself up and brings like a bunch of catwalks down to be the bombardment he get yeah something falls on him first right I think the bombardment shakes something loose that falls on him yeah igniting the thermal detonator that he was just threatening with and it blows up and him and davick go boom it was very loony tunes but davick has great armor to steal so sweet i haven't i haven't i haven't poured over my loot yet but you uh you you pick over the corpses you run aboard the ebbin-hawk you take off the planet's being leveled behind you you see the city spires being like cut in half by turbo laser blasts uh i guess all those people you helped it was all kind of moot really um which i did find kind of affecting i was like
Starting point is 00:23:19 oh no like everybody everyone you were like hey i'm doing a little favor for you the the the cool huts who were arranging fights and bounties what about those refugees do you think do you think their promised land kept them safe from this or you think they just got like Blown the fuck up. They said that that journey was going to take months, and it was maybe 36 hours later. Do you want to know? It's not from Cotech 2, but I know what happened to them. What does he's from?
Starting point is 00:23:51 How do you know? Because you go back to Taurus in the old republic, the MMO. I do want to know. That's why I'm not allowed to play this game. This is one of the things. This is not why, Natalie. That's very funny, though. Look, hey, congrats for the WGA, but if SAG after a can't also, like, doesn't win soon, we might end up playing the old republic.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I want to go back so badly. Once you finish this game, once we finish this game, I think it'd be okay for you, too. There's some stuff in Kotor 2 that also gets spoiled in it, but it's not as important as the stuff in, like, the Kotor 2 spoilers are not as such as the ones here, I would say. Or it's like, yeah, anyway. So, did you get people to the promised land? Everybody here get people to the promised land. Yeah. Boy, that sucked.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Wait, why did it suck? Going around the fucking sewers for hours, looking for dead bodies, and being like, yep, fighting more rackules. Here's a few gamerians. I had already got them. Yeah, I just had them. Actually, I missed one. Because sometimes, depending on how people, like, die
Starting point is 00:25:04 on each other, it'll like, it's kind of hard to select. I usually cycle through, like basically tab through each option of somebody to target. But I had missed one journal and I had to go back. And there was just like a little baggy in the middle of the hallway. And it was like, right here, here's your journal. So I had to go back for one. But yeah, I think I just, you didn't explore, Rob? You don't like, like, go.
Starting point is 00:25:33 they were gross sewers I didn't want to spend more time down there and I had to but I spent a lot more time I spent a lot more time I spent like 40 minutes looking around the sewers trying to find the third journal and it's outside
Starting point is 00:25:47 it's right near the entrance of the gate oh yeah so first of all Taurus is fucked up in Star Wars the Old Republic the MMO because it's been ruined from the end of our session here
Starting point is 00:26:03 where they blow it all up. And the rackwell disease continued to spread. So it's covered in rack gulls. No. But in the Old Republic, you find, you like meet people who are there, and eventually you find a hollow message from Rook Hill, the guy, right? The guy who you talk about. And they find their way to the promised land.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I could just screen share this, but I'm so afraid there's going to be a Cotorke spoiler in it. But it is, it turns. out that it is the original Taurus colony site from when they first founded the colony of Taurus before it was the whole thing. But all of the buildings are destroyed. The Rackles got down there and continue to fight them. But people do survive, but it's a mess and then they forget.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I think when you get there in Star Wars, the Old Republic, you don't, no one remembers how they got there basically um and uh yeah now they're the only ones left on taris they're the only ones who made it so good for them so wait sorry the sole survivors of taris are the people who are the outcasts but once again they've lost their past and their history yeah uh-huh cool because i think they're called like the promised ones or something like that um and then the thing is that they lost the cure for the for the for the rackwell serum for the rackwell ceremony And so the Rackle are continuing to fuck them up, basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Did anyone go back down there after they all left to see if you could buy anything from that guy? A year? I was a whole-time piece of shit. Because he was a hater. He didn't even want me to give to the journal to that guy. He was like, I want to be number one here. Oh, sorry. Sorry, I got confirmation on this.
Starting point is 00:28:00 What? The promised ones were the, the descendants of a group of outcasts living in the undercity on the planet Taurus, they gave themselves the name after reaching the promised land. And also, after the rest of the planet's population was killed in the Sith Empire's bombardment of the planet. Eventually, the group died off completely due to rackles and radiation sickness and starvation. Yeah, so it was like recordings from all of the promised one leaders, but they all just died. That's incredibly pathetic.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Why kill them? Yeah, in fact, in fact, the final thing that the final promised one says, is so funny because they've forgotten language. Not all of it. But she says, now there's just us. We've stopped having children. The old records say it's from toxic radion
Starting point is 00:28:46 spelled out weird. It's toxic radiation. Yeah. Anyway, the next thing she says is we once called this the promised land. It was a lie. It is our grave. Damn. Maybe we should have left them there.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I can't believe Ruka led them astray. What do you mean astray? They would have been dead anyway. They died faster in the bombardment, maybe. Yeah, they may be. Yeah, certainly had generations. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Anyway. Shout out to progeny. Fair enough, yeah. You leave the source behind. You leave the promised land and stuff behind. You go into the... We should like rewind and start. walking through this a little car. Blackville car.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Fight your way through. Here's a question. I made a mistake earlier when I said that it felt like you couldn't go anywhere. I was thinking of the hidden Beck because when you, I was thinking the hidden Beck hideout. But the Blackville cars. I think a dungeon. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You fight your way through it. Do y'all truly the most kick the dog, kick the puppy answer available, I think in this session. was when you run into Ada, the waitress in the Blackville car place. They have like a bar in there. And one of the things you can say to her is, leaving you alive is too risky. Sorry, sister.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Looks like your order is up. Miserable. I did not do this. I'm not. I'm doing some girls. Is that just like this is the Han response? Like, sorry sister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like, what's up? Yeah. I do like that you find Pazak cards. in someone's desk in the Blackwell Car base. That's fun. Yeah. That was cool. So yeah, did any of you side with Kandon, who is like Brejik's number two? You eventually go find like the number two guy in the Blackwell car base, and he's like, listen, why are you going to go work with, with, what's the other guy's name?
Starting point is 00:30:52 What's the leader of the, of the Hiddenbecks? The Hiddenbecks named Gandon, Gaden, Gadden. And he's like, listen, man. Gadden sucked too. Gadden is a bad leader. He didn't want to retire when he should have just retired. He's not, you know, he's not the hot shit you think he is. And if you let him talk a little bit more, you know, Mission will be like, no, I'll never betray the Hidden Bex.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And he's like, the Hidden Bex don't like you, Mission. Yes, I do remember. I got that. He's like, that was rough. They're not going to let you be one of them. They would have done that already if they would have, if they liked you. And he talks like a lot of, he like, you know, now, is he, he makes some points. He makes some points and or is potentially maybe debatably gaslighting her.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's hard to say. I didn't side with him, but I immediately regretted not doing it once I get back to the hidden back space. Interesting. Because the conversation that you have with Gadden, where he's like, yeah, you have to drive the soup, soup bikes. you're like, I've never done that. And he's like, yeah, but that thing that I had you go get instead of the lady that you're looking for is really dangerous. So you're going to have to get out of the suit bike.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Wow, he won't put his own purple on it? Yeah. He literally basically said, you have to run it. I'm not going to put my own. I'm not going to like, people are too valuable. And this thing's too risky. Here's what Kandon says to Mission. Mission, you said, so Kandon says like, be smart.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Gandon Thack's old news. He's a blind fool in more ways than one. Brejik is a visionary. Soon he'll control the entire lower city. Don't shackle yourself to a losing team. And you could say, you got my attention, what's your offer? Which, like, frankly, I said because like, I don't care. I was like, tell me what's up. Tell me what's up. I just, I want to hear. I want the con, I want to make an informed decision. This is it exactly. A hundred percent. I want the contacts. And then Mission was like, how could you? Exactly. I'm just hearing him out. I'm just hearing. I'm just hearing. So Kandon says, ah, mission, the hidden Beck's unofficial mascot, your loyalty is adamant.
Starting point is 00:33:01 memorable, but misplaced. Gaden only keeps you around so they could laugh at you and your furry friend. And Mission's like, no, that's not true. You're lying. And Candice, like, am I? How long have you known Gaden? How long have you worked for him? They never offered you to make you a hidden back, did they?
Starting point is 00:33:15 And mission's like, they said I was too young, which is probably true. She is 14, but they are an illegal gang. And most illegal gangs, like, recruit early. That's how you get them. Yes, 100%. And he's like, do you believe? leave with them? Come on, Mishin, you're smarter than that. To Gaden and his crew, you're nothing but a running joke. Aren't they always teasing you? And she like, yeah, well, some of them are,
Starting point is 00:33:41 but you guys tried to kill me. And he's like, yeah, because you're with the hidden backs. When we respected you. Bridgett knows you're not a joke, Mission. He made sure the vocars took you very, very seriously. This is bad. He's absolutely misleading her. Yeah. And anyway, I said, yeah, sure, we'll do your thing instead. Fuck it. Really? Yeah. Did you get dark side points for that? Yeah, I did get some dark side points for this. But like not that many. Like two or whatever. You know what I mean? It wasn't that big of a deal. And the other thing is like, he is pretty straight up or he is like, listen, Regick is done with this. If we can get rid of Gaden, the war will end. You know, we'll pay you 500 bucks and we'll give you the Republic soldier.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And then he's at least straight up because you're like, wait, I thought I had to win the I thought she was the reward for the swoop race. And he's like, yeah, we can't just give you, give her to you, but you'll be the person who runs the swoop race for us. And that way we get to keep our face, you know, we keep face by like continuing to put her up for the, as the reward. You know, we keep face by continuing to put this woman up as the reward for a bike race. And you can be our racer, you know, with the swoop accelerator.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So you still have to technically win, but it's like a fixed race, essentially. Yeah, that seems to be the way that they frame it, exactly. Yeah, okay. Anyway, I said, yeah, and I went back and I killed every single Hidden Beck. Because you were saying, right, that you can't explore the Hidden Beck place. Is that what you were saying before, Natalie? Yeah, there's like a couple rooms that you just can't go into. Yeah, why?
Starting point is 00:35:16 What happens if you try? Does it let you even try if you... No, well, even if you do the security, it's like impossible. Yeah, you can open their doors when you've decided you've betrayed them. What's behind there? Lute you probably don't need. Just like frags and stuff? You know, I think it's like, yeah, I don't remember the particulars.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So did they know you had turned by the time you walked back in? So when you know, when you walk back, so the thing that happens is when you say yes, you'll work for Kandon and the black volk cars, they instantly, he's like, all right, our guys are going to see you out. And if you come back in here, we know that you have betrayed us. If you don't come back, you know, you know what I mean? So like, if you change your mind, you could come back. back into the Blackvillecar place and kill them all. But so you go back into the hidden Beck place and if you go into any of the locked doors, they go, whoa, wait a second, you're here to betray us.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And then you fight your way through. And eventually you go down to like the basement level and Gadden's there and he's like. Because he like retires to his room because he's like tired or something. Like I was looking for him after and he was like, Gadden's not here. Gadden's in his room. He's just chilling in his room. That's so funny. I can't stand this guy.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Me either, which is why I killed him. I'm glad. What did he say to you when you saw him? I forget exactly what he said, but he was basically... Oh, you come in and he's... And his like guard, Kira, Kera, or whatever, Kira. He's like, who are you? You can't come in here.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Gaden, turn on the alarm. And he's like, relax, Kara. These are my people. These are my allies. I love these guys. And she's like, you're too trusting. And then you fight him. You go, yeah, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:36:55 don't worry about it I'm here for your I think I said you know I took it I took Brejick's offer or whatever and then you fight him and you win and you get his stuff
Starting point is 00:37:05 which includes some pretty good stuff someone I think maybe it's her maybe it's him he has like a plus one intelligence implant so that's something
Starting point is 00:37:16 put that right in my brain now I'm smarter put that my brain now I'm smarter uh oh instantly I regret my actions because I'm smarter and I can think better. But yeah, you know, however you go through this,
Starting point is 00:37:31 there's not really much here, right? Like, you don't learn more about these gangs, really. I think I met one black Volkar who was like, yeah, Bridgett's crazy. Like, I hate him. Like, we used to be a real gang. But now, but I barely, I didn't, so the thing is I didn't see much of the black Volcar base
Starting point is 00:37:50 because I just, like, hacked everything and was like, boop, boop, poop. turn off like all the sentry bots and turrets and just like walked straight to the place where are you getting your spikes from yeah that's my question because I'm so spiked out you know I'm like I'm running low I guess the thing is what's your what's your security score or your you're very high very it reduces how many it costs yeah yeah so that's that's just how you know Depp's polo he's a crafty one yeah he's he's got all those sneak he's a nerd he's a slicer he's a he's a droid repair uh you know mastermind he's
Starting point is 00:38:31 explosives expert really what can't he do we'll serve you about punch he can't punch anyone unfortunately wait why are you using a weapon she's a weapon why you punch it doesn't really help him he tends to whiff a lot uh and he doesn't shoot him good either it's gonna be it's it's kind of everything's gonna change soon i believe is there grinding in this game can i just like go out to a field and get a bunch of monsters sort of but like Like, the truth at the end of the day is you will hit level 20 eventually and then you will stop getting XP and you'll have the build you have. And like, you will, that will make things easy for you until there you're fighting level 20 stuff. And then like, if you still don't have any strength or decks and you don't have the weapons of you need for those.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I have a very specific memory of the final boss of this game. I am worried about the final boss of this game a little bit. Because there is a difficulty cliff in the final level that then becomes a difficulty. mountain for the final fight. I think it's going to be fine. I beat this game running in a circle
Starting point is 00:39:31 and dropping grenades. Well, that's funny. Because that's how I beat Bendack Star Killer. That's what I did too. I could not shoot him. He would just freeze me immediately and then I
Starting point is 00:39:44 couldn't do anything. So I have an important thing that I rediscovered fighting this that I'd forgotten about, which is there is something this game doesn't tell you about consumable items. Let's say you want to heal in this game.
Starting point is 00:39:56 What do you do? I pause. I go, do, do, and I click the heel. When you say you pause, you mean you pause the combat, but you stay in the... Pause combat. Yes. Yeah. Right on the D-pad.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I use my med. I wait for the turn. So the next turn, it shows your character, like, injecting their med heel. Yeah. What if I told you this? Please don't tell me that I can go into the menu. What if I told you another, that there's another way to heal? Yeah, what if I told you that you could go into the menu?
Starting point is 00:40:27 And once per turn, you can use any consumable item for free. Fuck. You get a free heel in the middle of every turn. I mean, you're supposed to spend the thing, but the animation doesn't have to play, and you can be doing anything else. You can be doing an attack. You're getting rocked by the Sith governor while you're trying to, like, jam a stick and near thigh.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, my God. So this is the actual way I got through that fight at level four is every turn. I'm, all right, throw a grenade, hit the paw button, go in. inject the heel or turn on my shield or whatever, right? Right. At first,
Starting point is 00:40:59 the star killer fight, he's throwing grenades at you too. And for whatever reason, I know, so I was like, okay, let me get out of the way so I can turn on my energy shield and then scoot over a little bit. But eventually he runs out of grenades
Starting point is 00:41:12 and he's just like, I'll shoot you to death. And that was worse. For whatever reason, I was better at like saving against the incoming grenades. Same. The blaster fire,
Starting point is 00:41:21 that just hits you. Gets you. Yeah. Yeah. I had to rely on concussing and concussion grenades. To stun him. And then plasma, plasma, plasma. The plasma's do them.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Plasma's doing them, man, pretty good. Because Frags didn't do shit. Frags, you might as well give him a tickle under the armpit or something. Like he just, it doesn't do anything. I had one poison grenade. And the way that I had to, I had to do this a couple times, but I had to throw it out first, make sure that it poisoned him. and then put the concussion grenade,
Starting point is 00:41:54 make sure that he was poisoned. Wow. So that the damage over time effect would actually stay on. That's clever. Yeah, that's great. I tried to do that. Did not work for me.
Starting point is 00:42:04 He immediately got unpoisoned. And I was like, fuck. I had to do something else. Well, then you get the reward for it, and it's a gun. And it's like, here, Carth. That's a old rank gun. It's a good gun,
Starting point is 00:42:14 but it's fucked up to be like, I beat the greatest duelist of all time. And then one, no one's going to know it because everyone died on. Harris. True. Two, it's a gun I'm going to give to someone else to Mission or to Carth, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Oh, I also had to buy the Sith sniper to get through that. I don't know if you picked that up in the store before. No, I didn't. You laughed. Yeah. Interesting. Anyway, all this happens after, all the end of the dueling stuff happens after you finish the soup race. Rob, what's up with the soup race?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Remember last time when we talked, I was like, it's not going to be the thing you made me think it is. Was that correct or incorrect? Highly correct. What do you think it would be? Well, let me tell you about something called Mode 7. Yeah, uh-huh. Mode 7, a technology that unleashed the hidden potential of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Mode 7 sequences were where you inhabited 3D space like the battlefield above Hoth and a snow speeder and whipped around ATATs using the hook and tow cable. and shooting ATSTs with your blaster guns, all good stuff. Note the part where we were talking about turning and like spinning and turning all the way around.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah. And now when I think about swoop racing, I think about the kind of you know, winner take all street racing that Dengar got horribly disfigured in racing against the young Han Solo. And that's why it sounds like
Starting point is 00:43:49 motorcycle racing and city streets It's going around a course, like there's, you know, there's whipping around corners and all this. What this effectively is, is a drag race down a hallway, not very fast, by the way, but you can get a little bit fast if you go over the speed bumpers. So I thought those were obstacles first. So I avoided, on my first run, I avoided every single one of them. And I just, just, and you got to win. Yeah. So after posting some, what felt like some truly lackluster times, you come back and they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:26 that was just the best swoop race we've ever seen. Can't believe you haven't done this before. And, uh-oh, you got to do it again to beat the new times that been set. So now you understand the system, you go back and you win it again. And it's like, wow, swoop racing and shit. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, how does anybody ever die at this?
Starting point is 00:44:43 Contrast it to the video I'm sending you now that's timestamped from Shadows of the Empire for the N-64, where it is, you are constantly crashing into stuff. Also, it's the N64, so you can only see but 30 feet in front of you. Like, how could anybody ever make a decision about where they're swoop racing? And you're turning all over the place. You're going through most icily in this game. None of this. You go.
Starting point is 00:45:05 See, the draw distance is simulating the blinding speed at which swoops go, where you just can't react. Oh, my God. This is poor person. Yes. Hey, Austin, this isn't how I remember this game. Well, this is one level of this game, right? This game is similar to Cotaur that, like, sometimes a mini-game happens. But I just mean the way it looks.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm like, God damn, this is what Shadows of the Empire was? Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. It sure was. N-64 games. Honestly, it looks kind of good for an N-64 game is the thing to think about in terms of, I mean, it doesn't. But, like, they're doing more texture work than some N-64 games did, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:44 You're going so fast You can't see You know Anything It's so fast There's like a fun bit About four minutes into this video We're like
Starting point is 00:45:57 It was even before that You like get outside the city finally And like it does open up And that's kind of That was always a fun feeling At the end of Oh wow This looks so stressful
Starting point is 00:46:08 It was so stressful I played this a ton as a kid And it never was not stressful It doesn't look like it's possible to really dial in how hard you're turning. But maybe this is being played on an emulator. Maybe. That's a good point. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:46:21 It was always like this. I was always bouncing around. And the end of it, of course, is you make it out to where Luke is building his new lightsaber. Or maybe that cutscene isn't here. But they cut off for the cutscene. They do. Anyway, thank you to the library of video games, which had this video.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Ready to go. So, yeah, that's what I'd always expect it. The first time I played this game. And then it was like, no. straightforward kind of glad it wasn't get on some some speed boost pads
Starting point is 00:46:48 go fast beat your time we have to keep in mind this is still the first you know this is just chapter one you're right there's time for
Starting point is 00:46:59 more involved racing I did not need to be stuck on a on a race I mean Star Wars races are have
Starting point is 00:47:10 have notorious challenges to them there's the pod racer a race in the Lego Star Wars games that is extremely infamous for being terrible that's basically all I've played so
Starting point is 00:47:28 there's the pod racing game which is really hard just like the it just seems like when you're driving really fast and you know you're dealing with not like it was trash at wipeout too. It's the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, those games are hard. Early racing games are so difficult.
Starting point is 00:47:48 If you play Mario 64, Super Mario Kart 64, versus Mario Kart 8, different universe. Different universe. So I'm glad to not have wasted like hours of my life on a racing sequence and instead did it on the shooting sequence in the... In space. Okay, we'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Anyway, I mean, can I tell you something, which is I beat this real quick?
Starting point is 00:48:21 And then the thing that happens is someone, Brejik betrays you, even if you side with Brejik, by the way. Like, even if you had Brejik's back and you win. Told you. He had no honor. He has no honor. He is like, now, wait. He's like, now, of course, sorry, but the rules have changed.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Maybe does he do this for every, for y'all too? Yeah, he does. Yeah, he's like, ah, we're not. going to actually put this up for put this person up for auctioning because she's a Jedi and does that what he says does he give you that whole spiel for me he was like she's a Jedi we found out that she's a Jedi as she's too valuable to put up as the prize I think so yeah I can't remember but he does that even if you sided with him which is bullshit and she and she makes her debut that's it da da da da up still us here why didn't she save herself before
Starting point is 00:49:12 if she could just... She just wanted the drama. You know, she really is chasing the drama, I think. I'll tell you what she's not chasing is Bredjik as he kicks my ass. Right? In the middle of this fight, she just stopped, she just stopped fighting and watched me. And he beat me, and I died, and I had to redo all the races. No.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah, I had the same exact thing. I died. I was in the game over scene listening to her fight. And I was like, isn't she my fucking party? Why do I have to do this again? And then I did the race the second time. And I was like, obviously better at racing. And I had like a 10 second better time than my first race the first time.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And then I was like, now I have to beat the best time I've ever gotten. Right. No, but if you get it, if you get it low enough, so the second time through, I got it down to like 24 seconds. And they were like, wow, no one's going to beat that time. We're not even going to make you do it a second time. So there is like a. There's a number that if you get under it, they just give it to you, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Okay. But for me, she beat everybody, we beat everybody but Regic and she just stood there. She, like, wouldn't fight him the first time through. I can't stand. She is. She does not make a great first impression. I just stood back and she just, like, mulched everybody. Like, because I was like, oh, shit, this is close quarters.
Starting point is 00:50:35 There's nothing I can slice. I can't repair a droid to have it kill everything. I'm just like, man, I hope you got this. And she did. She did. She was just like, she and I were a great team. We, she was doing her flurries. I was, uh, critical striking over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Um, that's what you said to do, right? Just critical strike. I think for your character, that seems right. I think if I remember what your stats were. Um, I don't remember what your stats are. We can talk after or about, about builds. But anyway, I just, we just, we mowed everyone down. It took us like two seconds.
Starting point is 00:51:09 That was like the quickest sequence. I just zoomed along on a, on a swoop bike, and then I killed everyone, and then she was ungrateful as fuck and rude. She is so rude. They nail that Jedi suck out the game. The idea that, like, oh, yeah, we finally got a jet. You finally rescue this person who you've been busting your ass to rescue, putting yourself in harm's way, distracting yourself sometimes to do side quests. But that's all for her. You know, I'm doing these.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I'm doing the duels of the Pazak so I can better save Bastila, IMO. Yeah. And nevertheless. She's like, what did you do all that for? She's like, you're doing too much, actually. I was like, you are actually doing the most
Starting point is 00:51:55 anyone has ever done in the galaxy. So, please, please stop. She's so rude. She was like, you're welcome for saving you. I was like, you were asleep. She says. You were asleep in a chamber. You're like, I'm here to save you, or winning the soup race is the only way I could save you or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And she goes, save me. Is that what you thought you were trying to accomplish by riding in the swoop race? Well, as far as rescues go, this is a pretty poor example. In case you hadn't noticed, I managed to free myself from that normal strait collar without your help. In fact, it's more accurate to say I saved you, which was true for me. That was true, the second place. This is exactly what she said to me. And I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:52:35 I don't need any of this. I don't need any of these people. That's right. I don't need any of this drama. Let's get off this planet and be done. Yeah. Rob, when did you start? You said you started to turn around.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I started to come around on Carth. Yeah. Sure. Because he was like, this is bullshit. Yeah. Who the hell do you think you are? And I was like, damn, I was just going to let this lady step all over me. But you, you have pride.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah. She will shit talk to you and be like, I'm back in charge of this mission. And now we can start doing things the right way. way or whatever. And Carth is like, hey, listen, lady. This isn't how leadership works. This isn't, you know, a leader doesn't yell at their troops just because, you know, they, the things are gone sideways. You got to support your troops. Like, give them. Not very, not very battle meditation of her, to be honest. Which is really fun. Because it's like, oh yeah, good, you can sit in your stupid meditation chamber and make everyone better at shooting.
Starting point is 00:53:39 but you can't speak to a person you don't have any social skills right you know no one likes you i had uh i had zalbar with me for this whole so he just said nothing and it was just be like i looked into this actually recently to be like wait how much zalbar do we actually get we get some story stuff with zalbar but zolbar like doesn't banter with anyone except mission yeah i think i'm gonna take him off i i switched i switched over to carth because i was like i figured that they have some things to sort out yeah yeah he has commentary like he'll have some like he'll talk about stuff that goes on but in terms of like oh he'll be yeah so i guess we haven't said like in a lot of scenes depending on who you have with you and if the option is dark set it or light-sided
Starting point is 00:54:30 they'll be like you can't do that and um mm-hmm so far is just viving with you apparently or He has some things he'll say. He's mostly pretty quiet. But he's very quiet, I think, compared to most people. And he doesn't have those scenes. You know when, like, Mission and Carth would, like, snipe at each other? Everybody, a lot of characters have those with everybody. He only has them with Mission, and I think we're done with them.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Because did you get the Bath one? No, last time we got the, like, you know, the first time was the bath time? I don't remember. She called him Scruffy this time. Yes, yes. and you have to dress he's like she's like you gotta we gotta get you some clothes big z no that's right so i've had an interesting party situation um because you get bastilla yeah there is immediately that big basilla carth fight i was annoyed from having to restart
Starting point is 00:55:25 the whole mission and i was just like i'm done with everybody here so i was like you know what zalzbar t3 m4 you're coming to down that was my squad It was peace and quiet. It was all chill. We're here doing the mission. There was no tension. There was no problems. We were viving.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And then I was like, just was making me a bad podcaster because I should see the interactions between these people. So then I brought out Bastilla and Mission. Did anybody do that? No, I did not. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Okay. So the first cut scene you get with them is, it paid off because I was like, I hope that I get this sort of thing. So Mission stops Bastilla. and it's like hey do you ever just fuck around with people with force powers like do you ever just push somebody down when they're like being annoying or whatever mistilla's like that you would even ask me that you don't understand the force I would never do that that's below me um and then
Starting point is 00:56:22 mission's like you can't talk to me like that I'm not a kid blah blah blah blah falls over That's so funny It's so good And Mission's like Why would you do that And Missilla's like I don't know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:56:37 And that is the end of the scene Love it perfect, great You know what? Maybe Missilla's all right I'm back around It turns out I only like The Silas said fuck them good Right exactly
Starting point is 00:56:49 And now the thing is like Once Mission says fuck you to someone Who is in Zalvar I'll be back on board with Mission too but if the only person mission get shitty with is Zalbar then like fuck off I need someone else I don't like
Starting point is 00:57:02 for Mission to be mean to in the way that I with Carth and Bastilla and Bastilla and Mission I like them all. They're all my friends but After that I started taking Carth and Zalzabar a lot around mostly just because they ended up being
Starting point is 00:57:20 well I wanted to see if Carth would talk to Zalzabar and I guess it feels like that's not going to happen now that that's not scripted it. I believe that the answer here is no. I believe that the answer is that he does not have shit. Let's see that. Yeah. Quick thing, by the way, when, when, before you go back to the apartment, right after you meet up with Bastila.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You get a vision. You do. Out of nowhere. It comes, it just plays. It's very weird. And it also. I wish there's a little transition for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 It's like, I finished a fight and now I'm seeing her fight and kill Revin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what you saw? Yeah, did you see something else? The thing that bothered me is that I was wondering, does it also have a bit of flashback vibes?
Starting point is 00:58:07 I thought it was a flashback. That's what I thought at first. And it's like a hooded figure that they're confronting on the deck of a Star Destroyer or Sith, whatever the fuck. It's a Star Destroyer. Sith, yeah, Destroyer. And you see them, like, beat this character's Bass and then they flip the body over and Bassel is looking down into the hooded figure's face
Starting point is 00:58:31 and then cut to you're back at HQ. Yeah. Talking. Yeah. And like this is a game that has just planted little seeds. Like man, nobody knows like how you got on that ship. Like what? So weird that you're here.
Starting point is 00:58:45 You remember anything? And you're like, no. I don't. I was doing some stuff. Like, I guess I was on a survey mission. Well, if Basselor recognizes you when you first meet her. She's like, oh, you're one of the soldiers on this ship. Which does not seem like very Bastila-like behavior in some ways, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah. In that no one likes her. She doesn't take notice of soldiers. Yeah, she wouldn't like know people's names. She doesn't seem to know Carth. No, she does. She does because when you were like, when you're, maybe you didn't say this. When I was talking to her, you can be like, me and Carth did blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And she's like, Carth O'Nassie, finally. someone who's worked to death. Yeah. So maybe she paid attention to Carth, who could say? Maybe she would have known Trask Olgo. If you would have been like, Trask Ogle taught me everything I know about how to click, click on doors. She would have been like, well, at least you had a good teacher. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But yeah. Mentorship's important. Very weird. And then what she says basically is like, you must have the force, dude. Yeah. And then she becomes very interested in you and very just like, hmm. Let's like, let's chat more. Let's, let's talk more about, uh, you're, you seem force sensitive, but, or she, she, like, she'll, she'll gesture towards, like, hmm, you seem to have a special connection, but I shouldn't say more because I'm not authorized to by the Jedi Council.
Starting point is 01:00:11 So we should really get you to the Jedi Council on, on she says, like, she used the word force adept or something like that. Like, we have this idea of people who can use the force, but haven't been trained. Yeah, she's, and she tells me. she's like you're too old to become a Jedi but it's probably worth just checking in with the Jedi Council just in case like they can tell you more And they are on Dantuin
Starting point is 01:00:36 She's like we have to get to Dantuin You've heard of Tatooine Now Dan Tewin Get ready for Dantuin Yeah it's a cousin But first you have to do the Sith base Before I guess first Canderus shows up Like you said
Starting point is 01:00:52 right did any of you accidentally go to the canteena before you went to the Sith base I mean once I ran into him again he's like what are you doing here you should be at the sick base that's very funny he's like I think I told you you have a job to do I don't know why you're around here and I was like I'm sorry I want to play Bazac just quick card game before I go yeah I'm just getting my head right okay um and yeah you get T3, a very cute little droid. Thank God. Who I used to open the door?
Starting point is 01:01:29 He does a little sort of hunch forward to go rolling along forward, but the only problem is he's got that sort of high rev, high RPM electric engine. And it's a very good sound effect for a minute. And then? And then he's just always making him. He's a droid. He can't help it. He's trying to be
Starting point is 01:01:46 along behind you, but he's just doesn't stop. He's cool because he's like, Like, his design I really like. He's not an R2D. He's not an astramex the way we've, I don't think we've ever seen a joy that looks quite like this, right? He's got like tank legs. He is like flat, yeah, tank feet and then like angled legs up in front, like a dog out on two feet. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Like standing upward. But then just slides around. Like they don't walk or anything. And then his head is like a Roomba that turns around like a projector light on the front. Yeah, T3. I used him to open the front door to the Sith base and then set him back to the apartment. I should have done that
Starting point is 01:02:29 because I was like, surely this is a stealth mission where the droid will be frequently of value. There's stuff to hack in there and stuff, but like, yeah, you know, mission can hack. I should have done that. Mission can slice, I can repair, you know? Yeah, I don't have any of that. Can we have an honesty moment here?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Has anybody accidentally destroyed the terminal that they were currently at? So you're talking about when you act. So for instance, you walk into the CIST terminal and you talk to the CISC lady and you can be like, hey, I'll pay you 50 bucks to go away or whatever, which is no money. And she will be like, yeah, sure, I hate this fucking place. Good luck. And then you go to her terminal and you can like look at all the cameras and be like, oh, I'm going to gas this room, which is weird that she has access to that.
Starting point is 01:03:18 That shouldn't be on her data pad. Multiple gas room. Yeah, you can cast a lot of people in this room. It's a Sith base, I guess. But it wasn't originally. It was presumably a Theresian one. Oh, well. And then one of the buttons on most of the camera screens is go ahead and overload the terminal that's in there.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Including the one in your own terminal. Mm-hmm. I've not done that, Allie. I've not done that, Allie. You get a screen that says your entire party has died. You've got to hope that you say. Recently. No.
Starting point is 01:03:52 No. Yeah, this is free. The game will auto save for you every five minutes. Uh-huh. I, oh, God, what I wouldn't do for an auto-save. I know. It's bad. It's rough.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's so rough. But yeah, for real, you can pay that, the receptionist at the sit-based 50 credits. That's what I did. That's less than a med pack. I hope she got to spend it before. No. Nope. No, she's dead.
Starting point is 01:04:20 walking home. Yeah, she was walking home with them 50 credits. Thinking about the half of a milkshake she's going to afford with it.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Inflation on Taurus is bad. So bad. I know. How did you all approach going through? There are some fucked up
Starting point is 01:04:41 droids out there. Like, the difficulty spikes randomly. Like, I can mow down a group of, like,
Starting point is 01:04:49 four or five Sith or regular droids and then out of nowhere there will be yes like the fucking elevator guard the elevator guard
Starting point is 01:04:59 why didn't you just hack it so the how did I hacked it at the front desk you can find the camera to it and hack his
Starting point is 01:05:11 its shield off I did hack his shield off oh then I don't know what happened but then he shoots you With a silver device to make you into statue. He carbonites you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, he carbonites me. And the amount of times I would approach him, he'd immediately carbonite, carbonite, carbonite, carbonite, and my whole party would die. I was just like, this is too much. Okay. So there's a couple things. First of all, there's just a lot of stuff. Like, I don't like engaging with a bunch of this game systems, to be quite honest. like there's a thing where it's like somebody at some point thought it would be fun
Starting point is 01:05:51 where if it's like there's blasters that's good for killing people and there's blastes good for killing droids this is this is called a game mechanic folks watch the master's work you got to match the right it's just hard counter stuff yeah and so there's too many times where you're like just ducking the inventory to be like all right everyone put on your droid killing gear all right back to your you know meat killing gear and then the other thing though is, so, you know, for that, for that I did, I was like, DUPS, get the, get the, the ion blasters or whatever, yeah, do the thing. But then also, uh, somewhere in their basso leveled up. And I was like, you know what? Why don't you take Droid Stun? Which would have been just an absolute
Starting point is 01:06:34 hell of force power that existed during the Clone Wars. Like if the Jedi had had Droid Stun, things would have been different. They forgot. Battle meditation and Droid Stun. These are two things they needed. Yeah. Uh-huh. But anyway, so we just, we just walked down there and that droid, like, Bastille was like, boop. And that drove is just, like, frozen. Yeah. And we just all beat the shit out of it.
Starting point is 01:06:55 It was like when HitchBot came to Philly. You love that story. You love talking about how Philly hates robots. Anyway, people should look up. Hitchpot deserve better. I agree. You want to name a robot. Well, put bot in the name.
Starting point is 01:07:10 What are you going to do? Not to profile. The, the, these. The thing, the other thing is, so I didn't turn off its shield. I was like, I bet I can take it without that turn off that shield. That shield blocks all energy weapons. And so instead of put like 100% blocks. And so instead of putting on my robot killing guns, I put on a sword on everybody, including Bastila.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I was like, just get in there. Shield ain't stopping swords. Just get in there, hit this thing with metal, metal on metal. That was a hard fight. But, I don't know. Sometimes you've got to challenge yourself. You want to know what I did? What'd you do?
Starting point is 01:07:50 I walked into the room. Yeah. And I went up the elevator. Why? He just ran past it? You didn't go to the foot locker? Oh, you just like, screw it. You could just sort of wiggle around it.
Starting point is 01:08:02 It comes towards you. You get to the elevator. You go upstairs. You fight the Sith guy. You're good. That's a nice level stuff. Yeah. That's true Jedi wisdom.
Starting point is 01:08:12 That is true. Sometimes. Sometimes there is no combat, there's victory. And that's just how you got to go through life. Regrettably, you don't have that option with the Sith governor. By the way, what a shitty gig. You appear to hang out in a windowless office. And it feels like one of those things where we'll give him the title governor.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, you're going to be the governor of Taurus, buddy. You just got to go down here and we'll give you the garage door opener. And you can't let anybody use the garage door. opener enjoy the planet it's extra funny because like he doesn't even get a name right like or in the first in the it's in the tutorial that you fight or see darth bandin or something right the other guy fights that guy and i don't want to say his name was darth bandin that's at least a name it's a bad name but this guy's not anything he's not lord smy you know what i mean like he's not governor e villain you know what i mean he's nothing. He's just
Starting point is 01:09:13 Sith governor. Brutal. Hard to make a wookie page on the... Yeah. I bet it exists. I bet it exists. Don't go looking. It will have a spoiler. The Sith Empire used planetary governors to administer its conquered territories. Wait, is the spoiler not that Taurus got blown up?
Starting point is 01:09:32 No. Not even close. Because honesty, Honesty Hour. I looked something on it. No! You need to be extremely careful. And I saw that Taurus. Oh, you saw that Taurus.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I saw Taurus. That is not it. Yeah, yeah. You're good. But I was like, I'll forget about it by the time. Sometimes Wikipedia behaves according to like Homeric rules where every time somebody is discussed in an article, they have to like swift-footed Achilles. They do that, but sometimes it has like weird origin story backdrops. That is exactly right.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Particularly with characters that are not fleshed out in, I've noticed with other video game entries. Yes. Where it's like, oh, it's so-and-so who is, and it's like, yeah, they tend to
Starting point is 01:10:22 basically give away the premise of entire games. Right, exactly. In, yeah. So-and-so, the betrayer or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, and you're like, wait, we just became friends.
Starting point is 01:10:33 What do you mean? Exactly that. It's exactly the situation. I, yeah, but the nature of Wikipedia is that there is a gigantic Cotor spoiler on every single Cotor-related hurt calls. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:10:48 It's just so funny. Anyway, we'll get to it sooner than later. I think it's about halfway through the game and then we'll be able to talk openly. Anyway, that governor sucked. Okay, you know what sucked? The first time I fought him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I hadn't taken my ion pistol out. Off, right. Yeah, so still using half damage or whatever. And we got him within, like, a hair's breath of dying. And I was like, okay, I'm just going to clean house now. Like, all right, now out comes the vibral blade. We're going to get his ass. Five times in a row trying various things.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Basil's fucking stun doesn't stun. It's does. She has a force stun. She doesn't working for shit. He was saving against it, Rob, because we are playing dungeons and dragons. And it does not lift, it does not surface. She couldn't save against his. No, she was like.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And she is. the fucking Jedi class that saves well in this game and nevertheless was not saving against his shit. It was bullshit. And also the fucking droid was just like, and I was like, man, pick up a gun. Like, just, he can. He can equip blasters. You can equip blasters with slots. He gave up a bigger one. I don't know, like a rocket launcher. So anyway, so eventually I'm just like, you know what, again, this game is convinced some of the stuff is fun, it just isn't. You're about to be done with all this
Starting point is 01:12:13 switching your equipment around stuff anyway, dude. Like, a roid-rides, spike of spike of like speed. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, let's go. All right, let's fuck him up. And so, like, this time,
Starting point is 01:12:29 Dups, who has never been shit, right? Yep. Dups is all jacked up. Dubs, Dups, Dups. Dups, Dups, Dups. Dups, Dups. Like, Dodgers multiple, like, blade strikes from this guy.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Does critical strike, half his hit point. Like, half his help bar disappears. And I was like, Dups, we got to get you coked out of your mind more often. And then I was like, I don't want to overplay my hand here. So I pulled Dup's back, pulled out a stun grenade, blew it up at that dude. He got a stun locked. That's it. And then, once again,
Starting point is 01:13:07 And we were all just like, fucking get him. And it was just like clubbing into death. Amazing. It was great. Yeah. That dude. That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Nice. And yeah, that he's done. You get the codes for that let you, I guess, theoretically get past the blockade. But that's not what happens. It's well thought out. I guess they're launch codes. Because maybe like you'll get shot down from the ground level or something. The implication is anything that takes flight, the auto-targeting lays.
Starting point is 01:13:37 right that's right okay unless you have the launch code right but they can still launch ships after you which is what happened but it's the okay that makes sense that makes more sense but davick says it like or well davick says when he says that he needs the launch codes he says it like he expects to be able to go back and forth once he has them well he expects there to be a back to come back to the tars is getting blown up yeah right he doesn't want to be stuck there yeah i think at that point they're like kill everybody and that's why they launch stuff at you it's not because they know that you're oh no yeah i just i thought it was weird that like he would even have that like he would think that that that those launch codes would be that strong like especially once
Starting point is 01:14:22 what happened on our on our base on taris oh they killed everybody including the governor should we keep the old launch codes active definitely for how long indefinitely pavik come on man they're going to change the password Yeah, I don't know about this. They're going to add, you know, one exclamation point. Special character. Fuck, they're a special character. We can never break.
Starting point is 01:14:44 We can never crack this. Ghent won't be born for, like, 12,000 years. Yeah, and so then you head back to Canada. Did y'all do anything else? Was there any other, like, before you went to Candorous and really kicked off the end of Taurus, was there anything else that you wrapped up? Spikes. I killed, yeah, I don't know how you are just.
Starting point is 01:15:06 like swimming in spikes but um I went and killed a star killer um I did I had to do everyone after I do everyone but the first guy basically and ice was hard ice was like gave me the most trouble weirdly and then everyone else was pretty easy um and then I did the uh assassin woman I went and killed her oh right yeah Savon, I think I forget what her name even is I forget So I went back
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah Collected my bounty on her She was just There is no talking to her Like I tried to like I approached her And she was like If you don't get the fuck out of my room
Starting point is 01:15:55 Right now I am going to murder you And I was like okay Well let me try again And then she immediately started a fight encounter So I was like well here's what has to happen So she died um and then i yeah that was it and then i went back to to davix get back to davix place you go check out davix palace yeah with candorous candor's like
Starting point is 01:16:20 all right i'm coming with you kick someone out of your fucking party yeah so i guess i i was candorous and bastilla for the for the for the yes i was like bastella has i guess there's a question is like you have a jedi now any any feelings on like how it seems to like have a Jedi in your party? It's kind of weird because I don't really know what to do with her because I feel like I haven't been tutorialized on what it means to like
Starting point is 01:16:45 to be... Mechanically, to be a Jedi. Yeah, mechanically. So I had her on like use force abilities for a while and I was like, is this like useful? And she was like healing me I think which was helpful, especially in some of the
Starting point is 01:17:01 harder fights. But it's odd. It feels like she's slightly out of place but I expect that as we spend time on Dantuin around other Jedi and as our player characters get more familiar with like Jedi mechanics that she'll make more sense
Starting point is 01:17:22 I kind of just felt like oh this is kind of like an overpowered like it feels like a slightly stronger version of me that I don't know how to use but is like a preview into what I'll be able to do soon maybe it's weird too because it's like you can see basically all the force powers that exist in this game at this point by looking at her when she levels up and you're like pick a new force power she can get that screen is like there's all the force powers you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:17:47 if you want to look at what force lightning does it's in that screen if you want to look at what force choke does she doesn't use them and and as we'll come to find out like those abilities anybody can get most of the force powers it's just they cost way more force points like mp basically to use if you're not the right thing, right? So you can do Emerald Justice. You can be Plow Coon. Plow Coon can cast Force Lightning. It just costs way more MP to do, you know. I believe that's true.
Starting point is 01:18:17 It might be the case that I'm wrong about this and that certain powers are, you know, locked. Certain high-level powers are fully locked to something. I know that eventually we'll get some morality-locked gear, which is interesting, but that's a while still. I do feel like it's tough getting in Pistilla because she ends up being the melee character.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And if you're used to using grenades, it's really hard to like navigate around that. Like either you have your other person also be a melee person. Right. So the three of you can just beat somebody to death with a hammer. or or you like just have to rework the way that you get through fights right yeah yeah well one more Jedi in the future she's not the only Jedi party member that's for sure so much to look forward to interesting davix manner davix estate apologies also candorous is the first
Starting point is 01:19:25 character that you get who is darksided that's true so you look at him in the character screen with the red backdrop and you're like, okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. He's ready to go. He's an evil man. He's a little evil.
Starting point is 01:19:41 He's a little evil. He's slightly evil. He's not like fully evil. He's like. Yeah. At the very end of this, when they drop you off at Dantoen, you land at Dantoen and you're like in a space port, you're like in a docking bay. I was like, oh, let me just run back inside the ship really quick and was like, oh, right,
Starting point is 01:19:59 I can go talk to my crew. It's a bioware game. And I, like, ran over and talked to him for two seconds. And he was like, yeah, what's up? And I saw it, I saw it the dialogue options where it was like, oh, I can't even touch one of these yet. Because if I touch this now, I want to talk about it on this, on this recording. And I have to save it.
Starting point is 01:20:18 But I do advise going back on board and talking to him as soon as possible. Okay. I literally, and I quit as soon as I landed. Yeah, I got you. Yeah. Is it about him being a Mandalorian hanging? at Jedi Central. Oh, I talked to him on Paris about that stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:39 About what? Oh, did you? What did you learn? What type of questions did you ask him? Maybe you can ask him this stuff right away. He, let me think. Yeah, well, I was like, where did you come? Wait, hang on.
Starting point is 01:20:54 He talks about the Mandalarians being like a warrior people and that was, what they love to do is like it's about the joy of the fight it's not about like killing people it's about like uh the thrill of like of battle and stuff and that being like their call to sort of that that's their vocation is like a lot of the fight's worthy it's honorable that type of stuff exactly exactly yes yes Robert are you gonna say none okay yeah he so there's So this is something else that you're saying. Every time you talk to him or every, it might be every planet, it might be every level up, it might be after certain story beats, he gets more worse stories to tell you.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And you would tell me another, candorous. Tell me another story from your days of the Mandalorians. And he has, he has the stories to tell. I say this now because I'm writing myself a big check. And in my memory, he's the coolest man who's ever lived. The things Candorous Ordo does is, no one competes now is that true i guess we'll find out um my favorite thing about the bioerism of this game so far is that after carth and bastella had that like big blowout fight and i left
Starting point is 01:22:17 with my my silent guys and i went back to the apartment they stand next to each other because that's just the way they're coded and i was like you motherfuckass i can't stay Why are you standing at you? It's very funny. I just, I don't need this tension. I see what's going on between the two of you. Wow. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I'm, you know, I see the sparks. They're both going to do a lot. You know, Carth's heart has been wounded. Yeah. Admiral Saul Carrath. Maybe, maybe, you know, Bastilla can help pick the pieces back up and help lead Carth into some meditation. Yeah. But still, would eat him for breakfast.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Let's be honest. You know, Carr's looking to get yelled at, maybe. If Carr approached Bastilla with the energy that he approach my character, she would have sliced his head off immediately, immediately. God, about that already. Negging does not work on Bastilla. Speaking of weird bio-aware gender writing. Yeah, what's up?
Starting point is 01:23:27 Um, how did y'all do in the slave room in Davick's place? Oh, my God. That was so weird. Don't get a massage? So you, it's funny. Okay, so I went back there to get a massage because I thought it would heal me and it didn't. No, I just go through an extended massage. It's a common misconception.
Starting point is 01:23:48 It won't fix you. I got a massage. Yeah, I mean, it's good to get. But you're not going to come out of it. I was really good. My head's beat in that dungeon. and I was out of bed back. You walked all the back.
Starting point is 01:24:02 You thought it was like a free heel pot? Well, because if you go back to your apartment at any other point, you heal in when you like fast travel back. And you can't do that. You know, they're whiting and dining me. Why wouldn't that give me any more killing them? Well. So the thing that happens is Davick is like, welcome to my estate, everybody.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Enjoy yourselves while I run your background check. If you want to go to the slave room. That's fine by me, but don't go anywhere else. I will kill you immediately. I'll kill you. I'll believe your traitors and have you killed. And you can go to the slave room and the slaves are there to massage you. And you walk in and you immediately see a woman and you're like, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:24:44 And she's like, I don't know that I could help you. You're going to have to talk to the guy in the back. Really? Yeah. Yeah, she's like, I think a male slave is a much better fit for you. And I was like, Dude, you don't know that. Well, this is so funny because we're very close to BioWare's first gay character because of a bug.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Next session, we'll run into the first gay companion in a BioWare game. Why are they gay? Because of a bug. Well, we'll find out. Because the game was bugged at launch and the character. And they never fixed it? Well, there's no patching. This game came out on the Xbox.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Wow, oh my God To live in game dev pre-patches Amazing So, so yeah Ignoring support emails That sounds so Wild Okay, I'm looking forward to that
Starting point is 01:25:45 Yeah, you can't I'm wrong I'm actually, maybe I'm the other way around It's the first buy character Because she's supposed to be gay But you can romance her as a guy Oh, that's what it is. So?
Starting point is 01:25:58 Okay, choices. Okay. But not here in Davick's slave room. Nope, not here. You also walk in in the apartment directly across from yours. There's something fishy going on. And do you all, like, open up all the other... I open up everything.
Starting point is 01:26:18 What's happening across from you? They're like, there's a slave and a man in there. and the slave is like oh no you caught us and the man is like what are you doing opening random doors and I was like I'm just looking around and he was like well leave before I call the guards and she's like wait guards I'm not allowed to be in here and I'm like wait what okay that's fucking weird um so she uh like I guess runs out and then he's like why did you do that I'm gonna tell on you and then you can bribe him to not do anything a bunch of weirdos in this place just weirdos I didn't even bother most of this like I
Starting point is 01:27:04 like so I was exploring I went through the throne room yeah and I was like I wonder surely the game will tell me when I'm like entering the trespassing area open the next door a Grito immediately attacks me you're trespassing even before that right like as soon as you hit
Starting point is 01:27:22 you literally can only be in the room you're in the room you're in and the slave room. Those are the only places, the hallway that connects them. Those are the only places you are not trespassing. Well, I just, I blink and immediately
Starting point is 01:27:33 am at the torture room and there's some like fire sprinklers of death dangling from the ceiling. And you got to beat the shit out of them and they got flame throwers and they're pretty nasty. Those might have actually been
Starting point is 01:27:49 like some of the nastiest droids I fought in this chapter. Yeah. And then, Who should they have been torturing, but the pilot of the Evan Hawke. It all works out. Well, not for him. He's like, I'm going to escape into the streets of terrorists where I'll be safe.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I'll escape into terrace a sweet embrace. But anyway, here's some codes. And so you go to the hangar. It's like, you can't go to the hangar. You've got to find a terminal to unlock the hangar. so all those places you didn't want to deal with because they're just full of bounty hunters I go back to that
Starting point is 01:28:29 and it was I was throwing grenades everywhere just like wiping out big piles of Rodians I was the worst thing to the worst thing to the Rhodian people since the Jedi started scouting younglings so yeah just like walk up open the hangar and then the big climactic
Starting point is 01:28:48 fight with Gallo yeah and dabble Avect, Avic's there in his purple armor. It's good armor. Did he do anything? He'll shoot or swing or whatever. Yeah, he freezes you and shoots you constantly. It's very annoying.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I had to repeat this fight. Okay, so. Uh-oh. Something terrible happened to me when I went through the sequence. Okay. I went through it the first time. I won, I like killed them both. Did really well.
Starting point is 01:29:21 It felt like a satisfying fight. Felt like I figured them out So first try Get on Get the loot Yay Got the loot I get on the ship
Starting point is 01:29:31 Didn't save Didn't save No no no Because I thought Oh I'm going to Dantuin Like naturally You know It's just a skip
Starting point is 01:29:40 Hopping to jump away So I get on the ship And Oh cutscene We're being laser targeted And here are like Nine Sith fighters To come
Starting point is 01:29:52 shoot you down didn't understand how to fight the Sith fighters didn't know you could turn 360 in the pod so was very confused um didn't couldn't understand like how it was supposed to track like I was like waiting for them to come back into my and they were just shooting me from behind so um naturally uh we died yeah and I got game over so I had to and luckily I saved right before going into the room. So I was like, oh, I'll just do the fight again. So I do the fight again. Way harder now.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Can't beat them for the life of me. I go through like three times trying to fight them. Finally, I killed them. But weird, Davick, like, Davick ran over to Callow, like right before Calo does the thermal detonator. And so DaVick gets struck down and dies like at Calo's feet, okay? And then Calo does the thermal detonator thing and the whole ceiling comes down on top of both of them. Can't reach. Can't reach is bad.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You're hitting the triggers to alternate who you're. I was, I was locked on it. But it wouldn't do the animation because I wasn't close enough in range. So and I would like, I walked all the way around trying to figure out if I could get close to it. Boom. Boom, boom, because the Sith... Oh, yeah, meanwhile, I'm... Yeah, the Sith are attacking.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I'm taking so much damage. Yeah. Because that will hit you. You will get hit by the Sith bombardment. If you luckily, unluckily get hit by it, yeah. So then I thought, oh, like, maybe this is just a bug here. I, like, I saved there, reloaded a bunch of times. Well, I saved right as the fight stopped, because I was like, this time I'm not... I'm not going to do this again.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And then I had to go back and do it all over again. At least you didn't save over your previous save. Oh, God, no. Yeah, I've been very stressed about that. But I just do a new save every time and then I delete the old saves after I'm, like, far enough away from that. So I'm on like save 60 something. Save slot, like 60 billion. Well, that's like me where I have.
Starting point is 01:32:11 How many hours do you all have in this game? Oh, I have like 70 hours. I have 154 hours in this game. because if you sleep the game and then turn off or you if you go to sleep in the switch it keeps counting hours you have to leave the game and go to sleep if you don't want it's wild actually I might have around there yeah I have a lot of hours in this game it's very funny anyway anyway so then yeah that was my experience that was this is this I guess then you refought it and got it right then I refought
Starting point is 01:32:48 them. I made sure that the boy stayed apart. Don't get too close. No, no. And I got my armor. Davick's war suit and a blaster or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, the fight was so easy. It was like he opened, like, Kala opened fire. Yeah. And I threw a couple of grenades at him. And then Kanderas opened fire with his gatling laser thing. And like before the fight had started, it was over. I'm not sure Davick did anything. And then we get the weird little beat of like, yeah, I've got a thermal detonator.
Starting point is 01:33:24 And then you get like the long shot of all the player characters, all the whole party running for cover. So the thing that I think it is, is if you try to, if you burn down Calo, the fight ends. Because he, once he gets to half health, we'll bring out the thermal detonator. But if your people split up and like one of them was fighting Davick
Starting point is 01:33:42 and one of them was fighting Calo or if two of you are fighting Davick especially, it'll extend that fight. Right, because the trigger at the end is Callow bringing out the detonator at half health, right? So I think that that maybe, Rob, if your people all just like glumped onto Calo, that's it. Yeah, you're good to go. Yeah, you're just done so. After all that one, two, three shit, you know?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Come on. It's, well, and then the, been a while since I've had a turret sequence like this. Oh, yeah. You're in it. This is video games from 2003. just spinning around shooting the little Sith fires they go bam bam bam bam
Starting point is 01:34:23 I like the Sith fighter design but yeah the sequence the Sith fighters look awesome but like the lasers don't quite sound good they sound like somebody like honestly they sound like the Houston Astros bashing trash cans to signal
Starting point is 01:34:40 the pitch it's just got kind of a just most of the laser weapons aboard these ships kind of have a weird, boomy, like, metallic sound. Yeah. What do you think of the Evan Hawk design? No one's made any.
Starting point is 01:34:58 This hasn't made an impression yet. I like it. Yeah. It's like proto-Millenium Falcon Vives. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like three prongs instead of two, but like, and the thing that I like about it is that it's like white and like an ochre or like a russet or something, which is like a fun color for a spaceship to be in Star.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Wars, that's like, you know, like the X-wing is sort of like that. But the Blenium Falcon is so, it's a big gray spaceship, you know? And the Evan Hawk feels like it's from a different era because of the paint job, which is like not true, but like it is cool. I mean, it is true, but like not because of the paint job. But it works. It gives it a little extra color. I like it. I want to spend more time like, like just chilling on the ship. Okay. Yeah. Wait, so is that the new base? If I like. This is you travel home. You travel back to the Evan Hawk. This is your Normandy.
Starting point is 01:35:49 This is your camp from Dragon Age. This is all coming together. Your bioirism, here it is. You got a base and your people hang out inside of it. And you come back to base to talk to them. And you go, hey, what's up? Is your plot line ready to advance for me yet? No.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Should I bring you back out a little bit more? Okay. You know, maybe are you going to tell me, maybe if I knew you better. And then you're like, all right, let's go kill 30 guys. And then you'll know me better. A couple more things that we skipped over, very important. very important one did you y'all find calo nords ranker
Starting point is 01:36:21 hunt data pad where he writes about how he 1v1 to ranker a rankor uh no where do you find that it's in a footlock or somewhere that you can unlock or break open um I use the other thing is a thing I didn't think about
Starting point is 01:36:36 is that I am the opposite of of Duff's I don't I don't I hack but I don't slight I don't security my security is low my repair is high and my, is computer use a different one? Computer use is a different one. I computer use and I repair, but I do not slice.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And so me, Bastila, and Kanderas went into this place and it was like, we can't pick locks for shit. Oh, no. But you can hit bash. You can change it down to bash and just break your way into everything. And so we are just slamming on the doors until they break open and slamming onto the chest. Yes. Because I had the situation where I was in there with.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Zalzabar and Kanderous It's just Zalbar There's no Zah I'm not you saying that Okay anyway So I To the point where I was
Starting point is 01:37:29 Yeah it should be It's a nickname that's Lager For some reason Yeah We're Shreweck and Zalzabar So I I went back to my save But it was pre-killing
Starting point is 01:37:43 Star Killer And I like Did that fight like three more times to see if it was worth it to try to do that, save again, bring Carth with me instead. So I could hack some doors, yeah, yeah. And it, I did not do that. I was like, no. And I was really upset about it.
Starting point is 01:38:00 I ended up getting the, there's one of the, there's like a cheap, uh, spike spend to just open up all of the security doors. Right. I did that. And I went through the rooms in the, yeah. But that's all I went through because I was not doing it on health. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:38:18 That makes sense. Not at all. Yeah, you can bust open the, like basically everything. It'll resist a certain amount of damage or whatever, but if you do more than that, you'll start to break down the thing. And it might be the case that you could damage something inside of a foot locker, but I don't think that's true. I got all that stuff, you know, so.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Did you guys go into any of the, like, rooms where they were making spice or whatever? Because you can see those on the cameras, but I didn't. I went everywhere. I mean, I went everywhere, but I didn't find. I don't think that room is accessible. I stumbled in, no, I think it is. It just doesn't look like anything. It looks like a barracks full of guys and I killed a bunch of guys.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Oh, I did go into a lab. Yeah, I don't think that it actually feels the way it does. Like, the grainy footage is way more. It's so much cooler, yeah. Oh, sure. They should have let you play this whole section with the grainy footage filter on. I want to, like, yeah. This is not that game.
Starting point is 01:39:09 This game is not, like, going to take big swings with the presentation in that way, you know. Anyway, Calo Nord, so you find the trophy room that has the rancor on the wall. There's a rancor head in the trophy room on the wall. Oh, and there was a high security thing. If you open it, it's a data pad, and it reads like this. This data pad contains a record of Calo Nord's trophy kills, sentient, and otherwise. Which is weird. The other stuff's not like trees, like what are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:39:41 The rancourts are sentient. They're saying sapient is what they mean, right? A rancor is sentient Yeah What are his non-sensient? Droid's droids Droid's are sentient Oh, I mean, to us
Starting point is 01:39:54 The last Yeah, to us at our, yeah The last century is an account of a recent Rancor hunt Quote With the rancor lacked in intelligence It made up for In sigh, strength, and ferocity
Starting point is 01:40:06 Conventional blasters were all but useless against its impenetrable hide And I was forced to resort To more unorthodox methods To bring the beast down Some well-placed mines near a watering hole were the first step. Their explosions hurting the creature into a dead-eyed canyon, sorry, a dead-end canyon, where I lay in wait, perched among the rocks.
Starting point is 01:40:24 As soon as the rancor was below me, I dropped down onto its massive neck. It reared back, bucking and clawing in an effort to dislodge me, but I had the perfect position. Unable to shake me, the monster opened its mouth on an outraged howl, and I was able to flip several frag grenades down its gaping mall. The explosion blew me clear of the shredded corpse, but Luckily, the head was still intact. If I had to take this to Terrace, I'm sure Davick will mount it in his trophy room along with the other heads I've collected for him. Davick's also expressed interest in hiring me.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I may take him up on his offer, even though I've still yet to claim the greatest hunting trophy of all, a pearl from one of the crate dragons of Tatooine. Crate. Crate reactor. Uh-huh. Doing a little tease here. Perhaps we may face a crate dragon on Tatooine. We're not on Tatooine, we're on Dantween. Yeah, but Tattoine's on the game.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Tattooines are all the planets. We're going to go to Tattoo. It's a Star Wars game. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess so. We get some good Tatooine lore, so get ready for that. That's so funny that you just find a little diary entry where he's like, and I, maybe he will ask me his, his, bounty on her. You could say, it's his boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:41:36 You could say maybe he'll ask me out. They're boyfriend. They're kind of boyfriends. Anyway, he's dead now. I can't see Calo Nord. He was nothing. He wrote this whole thing up and then you shoot him twice and he's dead. He, uh, I can't picture him saying all that.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Like, he doesn't seem like, like this feels intimate. This feels like his inner thoughts. Yeah. He's really just going in to describing how he mounted the raincore. And I just, I'm grateful to have had that little, you know, window into his personal feelings. And any other, oh, one other really big important thing. Anybody who beat Bendacht Star Killer, did you go back through and talk to all of the people? Yeah, everyone's like, you rule.
Starting point is 01:42:24 You're the best. My favorite one is Dead Eye Duncan. So, Dead Eye Duncan is like, who's the first guy you fight? Remember that? The first thing? Yeah. Maybe he's the second guy. Maybe girl on.
Starting point is 01:42:37 No, the second guy is the two-finger guy. His two fingers is the second guy? All right, then Dead Eye is like, he's like, this is a good guy. Great. Now I get to be the guy who the guy who killed Star Killer first beat. He's like, that's really funny. I mean, he's dead now like everyone else on Taurus. But he died holding that dumb. Yes. Yeah. See what his LinkedIn? Put it on his, put it in his bio.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Everybody, all the greats go through me. Yeah. You got to start somewhere. You got to start somewhere. True. It's very funny, like seven minutes later, the bombardment began. It's the equivalent of that Robert Pattinson movie where he looks outside and it reveals the Twin Towers. Remember me? Remember me. It reveals that it's 9-11. It's insane movie. It's Dead Eye Duncan.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I'm really, who are you most sad died on Terrace? Great question. Oh, wow. I've gotten a lot more sad about the Promised Land, folks. I guess, no, but they didn't die. I wish they died. Oh, God damn. Because of the future death and suffering.
Starting point is 01:43:50 They loved the same. They were just stuck in, like, radioactivity gulch for years. Maybe they, like, found love. Maybe, you know, birthdays were celebrated. You know, there are other things. There's always uptimes. Yeah, I got what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:08 God, who do I feel, like, bad for? I think mine's the, Ethorian who was walking home. Yeah. Oh. To his wife. Who you almost. Who I almost
Starting point is 01:44:20 made him think the Sith were good. A Sith sympathizer. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Him and the droid store lady. Oh, that's not bad. The regular like military
Starting point is 01:44:34 hardware lady is also all right. Yeah. She was going to be the one that I said. Oh, the two-headed alien. Oh, no freak. Gagotcha, the payer daub, the end of the payer dog. That was the last one. He'd never seen anything.
Starting point is 01:44:49 No. We have to go back. He's gone. I wish I could have brought him with me. He is the only one who's ever existed in Star Wars. That's crazy. Okay. Austin, if you ever get asked to do from a certain point of view again, you need to bring him back.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Please, I need to talk to him again. I need to hear from him. In rude health. Please. I'm so sad about him. Yeah. It's really sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I liked those huts. They were cool. The huts were cool. The huts were cool. Yeah. That cheater? The Pazok cheater. Oh, the Pazok cheater.
Starting point is 01:45:29 He couldn't cheat this one. The lady you helped dance. Yeah, she didn't make it. Like, she was recruited to the dance troupe, but they were letting. But what if the dance troop had, like, The launch, what if it had special pass? Either entertainment. Everybody was stuck there.
Starting point is 01:45:47 It was a bad situation. Yeah. Sucks. Yeah. Who else? Is there anybody else? It was pretty funny, though, that the street preacher got, too. Yeah, he's toast.
Starting point is 01:46:02 I wish I could have done it myself, but it's fine. Yeah, it's weird that there's no, like, close to that storyline. I kept going back to, like, talk to him. be time I pass by to see if that advanced anywhere. Just a little, just a little, hey, what's going on over here? And the answer is people suck here. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I guess there's also one less thing, right, which is like you get off that planet, right? And in space, everyone is like, all right, well, we did it. We're done, you know? We can go elsewhere. And Bastel is the one who's like, no, we have to go to Dantuin. We must go to Dantuin because that's where the Jedi. are. And, you know, you can, I think you can be like, that seems like a bad idea. They're just going to follow us and shoot everybody there. Because Carth, Carth is like, dude, there is nothing
Starting point is 01:46:55 left on terrace. If we go to the Jedi place, that's going to happen there. And Bastille is like, no, there's a lot of Jedi there. The Jedi are going to, are going to be able, they would win. They're too scared to come up, come after us. Yeah, they wouldn't dare come to Dan T'ween. I'm like I don't know man I don't know I think they're they're going to be following close behind we will see we shall see um I definitely have the itch like when I paused immediately upon landing I was like fuck I want to record this episode so I can go back and play more I want to play more we are about to get our a big option a big choice coming up about how what the what the way you're going to play the rest of this game is like so
Starting point is 01:47:42 I'm very curious. We'll have to DM each other about our options. Okay. And next time we'll talk about what prestige class we take. So, we also have another thing we have to discuss, which is how much of Dan Tween are we playing next time? We should talk. A month ago, my plan had been half. We should split the rest of these planets in two.
Starting point is 01:48:04 It's still kind of my plan. But, like, I think if SAG after makes a deal, we should put. probably go down to one episode per planet. So, no, Rob's eyebrow shot up. It's not like, I'm kind of busy with other game stuff, is the thing. I see. Like, getting more Cotor into the rotation will not be the, like, I don't know, it could be done, but I think it might be a bit of a stretch. Let's see how Dantuin goes and how much of it there actually is, because part of the thing that's hard is, it's going to be a little tough to cut this,
Starting point is 01:48:41 up. There are effectively four steps to the main quest line on Dantuin. There's like some early stuff. And it's the other thing that's hard here. It's like hard for me to talk about where to stop without spoiling a little bit of it. Right. But like the short version is there's some stuff to do in the Jedi enclave and then they send you out into the world. And one of the areas that you go is to the east. There's a there's a fucked up tree and you have to go. And you have to go front someone there, that's half of the big story, main story thing. And then the other thing is going to a, I want to say like a, is it the crystal cave or is it the, it's an ancient ruins place is what it is. I would say it's a crystal cave and then there's some ancient ruins.
Starting point is 01:49:34 And I think if we're going to cut this in half, the main story thing we would cut before the Jedi sent you to the crystal cave is what I think you would. do. Or before you go to the ancient ruins. Then there's a bunch of side quests here. And again, it's like it would be best if what we did was split those up. And that's a little tough to do based on, like, it's not linear. You know what I mean? Like, we're going to go Dantuin and Dantuin's a big map. And it's hard for me to be like, don't do X. But I guess what I would say is there are some Mandalorian Raiders and we should do that. And we should do that. And And maybe we should do, there's one where there's like someone died.
Starting point is 01:50:15 We're looking for a dead body. The dead settler is the name of the other quest. And we'll maybe do that. And then everything else. So we should sink which side quests we're doing. It's those ones. It's the Mandalorian Raiders and the dead settler. And then it's everything in the main quest through the go into the fucked up grove where there's a tree.
Starting point is 01:50:35 There's a tree and a character who you will confront near this tree. Well, we have all been trained as to how to approach a fucked up tree from the droid on the Galactic Star Cruiser. So we know exactly what to do and know exactly how to approach the situation. So I'm sure it will be absolutely no problem. So again, that is the, it is Jedi Code, the second test, and then corruption. in the grove. And then we're going to do Mandalorian Raiders
Starting point is 01:51:13 and the dead settler side quests. If you as listeners end up doing these other ones, which, and even as players, there's a chance that we'll end up stumbling into them. This is the thing that's tough, right? It's like, also there's someone
Starting point is 01:51:23 who's missing a companion. Also, there's this family that these two families who have a feud, their family there and a family feud, the sand draws and the matals. And it's like, it's hard to be like, don't do a quest if you bump into it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:35 But the ones we're going to aim to talk about are, again, the first three, parts of the Jedi quest through the corruption in the grove, Mandalorian Readers, and the Dead Settler. Gotcha. And go talk to people in the Eben Hawk, talk to everybody all around. There's a lot to find and talk about in the Jedi enclave background stuff. So I think that'll give us enough to chew on for the next episode.
Starting point is 01:51:56 But I'm hoping. There's a chance that maybe we'll end up with too much. I don't know. We'll see. Or not. There might be a chance that we do so much that the next episode feels like lacking, but we'll play it by ear and see how it goes. we should also probably say
Starting point is 01:52:09 shoutouts to the WGA for getting to a new Writers Guild contract so that's really cool I'm sure Adam is thrilled and as are writers everywhere I believe it's
Starting point is 01:52:30 like still undergoing like the eyes and T's are not dotted and cross so but it's basically almost there. So congratulations. We're happy to have supported that. Absolutely. And we are hoping that SAG-AFTRA, the IM-PTP will follow suit with an answer SAGS.
Starting point is 01:52:55 We will know within the next month or so, hopefully if this next round, or the couple of weeks, if this next round goes well for SAG-A-A-Fra. Yeah. But, you know, we'll see. And I forget, have the episodes from Stark recorded or the StarCruiser already posted? The main one has, and then the two diaries have not yet because Cato was sick. And I have not had time to take a listen to them yet. Yep.
Starting point is 01:53:21 So I will. By the time, this goes out, they probably will be up. And so what I think I'm going to do is do a tweet today that says, hey, they're not going up for a little bit because Cato's sick. They'll be up soon. Yep. So on the next episode, you're here is discussing the Dantween stuff that Austin just laid out.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Yes. All right. As always, if you want to support the show, you can do so at patreon.com slash civilized. And yeah, until next time, please rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice. And remember the poor lost salts of Taurus. Damn, pour one out. We got some Teregian ale. Yeah.
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