A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - 84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

Folks, we did it. After a middling pair of episodes last time and with what looked like a connected pair of stories coming up, we decided to call an audible and increase our episode count to three! So, today, join us on a journey across the galaxy: First into an experimental imperial weapon with its origin in the EU glory days of old, then on a planetary hunt for force-sensitive babies, and finally a return to Lothal where a troubled Ezra Bridger finally gets some answers about his family.  Support the show by going to Patreon.com/civilized! Show Notes Natalie's Phone Background Hosted by Rob Zacny (@RobZacny) Featuring Alicia Acampora (@ali_west), Austin Walker (@austin_walker), and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Ricardo Contreras (@a_cado_appears) Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)

Let us return once more to a more civilized age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zankeman, joined by Ali Akampura, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We are, as always, supported by you, our listeners, by patreon.com slash civilized. So head over there if you'd like to support the show and get access to all our Q&A episodes and the rest of the trove. This week, we've got a trio of episodes. Wait. First week, yes. We've got a trio of episodes.

episodes and a trailer to watch. I'm going live with a screen share. We can do our summary afterwards, but we are going to watch the Tales of the Empire trailer. You'll note that I screenshared it. Why is that? It's because the thumbnail has a spoiler in it.

Yes, spoiler for the two-minute, eight-second long trailer for this new animated show that seems to be a follow-up from their last thing, which was Tales of the Jedi, which we haven't watched yet, because one of those has, like, post-clone-war spoilers in it. But this seems like it doesn't have anything that spoils anything that we, haven't seen yet so it's okay for us to watch this trailer and maybe even to watch this

show we'll find out when it comes out and it's so important that we watch this trailer none of you all have seen this yet right no I don't know anything no I'm scared I'm scared I will say the character who's on screen right now it's like Tales of the Jedi there's remember Tales of the Jedi had like a Duku three episode arc and then Asoka three episode arc and we've watched neither of those yet so that looks like Thron it's it's certainly a chis male guy right yeah a chish male the worst account on Twitter probably Um, that's probably, that's probably rude. There's probably someone who has that account who's probably just like boring.

Anyway, one of those stories is about a character we've met before, but, uh, we, the character on the left here on this thumbnail with like the spear is from the Asoka, first Asoka episode of Mandalorian. Um, you might remember her. She has like a spear. It's the lady, it's like the shitty lady. The one she has to beat the shit out of to ask the question, where's Thron? Yeah, I think that that's exactly right.

Um, I think she's in Asoka also, but that's not why we're watching this trailer. Don't worry about her. So there's going to be some stuff. here you're like who the fuck is that that i think if we'd seen asoka we'd be like oh i guess she's important but i understand she's not that important watching this is fine that's my understanding of the situation i'm gonna count us in and hit play are we ready um yeah three two one go why do you seek imperial oh wait it's not moving it's not moving it's not moving okay okay it is right just starting up starting over here yeah okay three two one go there we're

do you seek imperial favor okay look it's from LTD years ago my people were all but just the lady we don't really know anything about we don't know this lady but this is my anger don't freak out about this lady it is that strength i offer that empire however accepted but she just got rinsed in a pretty bog standard episode man though Oh, May they were to present you with an opportunity, Barris. Yes. That's fucking right. Just be glad you're not a Jedi.

That's fucking right. Yes. Barris fucking Offie and clones. Barris fucking Offie meets the Settla, fourth sister. Who the fuck that is? Is that the same as the sister we know? We don't know. Grand Inquisitor's back.

Mercy only breeds defeat. Training Baris Offi. But I will help you overcome this week. Oh, she looks so sad. My God. You said the empire would help to change things. Everything comes. Yeah, see, this is that city from the Mandalorian.

Oh, oh. Yeah. Grievous. Grievous! Grievous spotted. Since I was a child. You cannot stop. What has begun.

Now you must face one final test to join us. What if Berris doesn't fall? What if... No fucking way. Yeah. Yeah. What again. Let's fucking go!

Oh, we've met We fucking met I know that dude He washed me 20 years ago I Yeah, so Uh huh Uh huh

I We have to end the podcast I don't know I don't feel good My tummy hurts I I'm I'm

Who It's wild how much I care about Beres-Offi. I hadn't, you know what I mean? I give so many shits about her. I care about her so much. We got to read the Beres-Offi books that don't have anything to do with her being. You read them. You read at least one of them.

This is the medical shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, but we have to read them with the knowledge of who she is in our hearts. Anyway, I'm hyped for this. This is out in a monster. Oh, this should be good That looked awesome

One small thing Yeah It's an uphill battle To make me care About Morgan Elspeth I don't Yeah, I know I know

I'm sorry about your planet lady But Doing like a shitty Reverse 7 samurai Was not it I can't remember I can't remember Was that like the town

That was like all the There's so many Epis Buildings on the side That's every bill, though. It was the one that was color graded to be yellow the whole time. Yes, yes. It had a big, like, wall, wall city type of thing.

Wall city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Cutting to some actor who was like a CEO. Yeah, that was. It's just a guy. Yeah. I mean, I will say that I think her background is relevant to us.

And potentially, can I spoil a small thing? About what? About the Asoka show. Yeah. this character that will maybe make us care about. We'll care about it eventually. I'll read the first line of her early life section of the biography on the Wikipedia from Morgan Elspeth.

Morgan Elspeth was a human member of the Knight Sisters, a Coven of Witches needed to the Outer Rim territories. Okay. Okay. Because I saw that. I saw that in the beginning of this trailer. I saw, I knew they, I knew they were Night Sisters. I knew that.

So, Death Bear looks so different. They had like, this is like a post-speed tree bathroom or something. You didn't know, nobody else said anything. I shut that down, but you're right. That is the beginning of this trailer is the attack on the Knights Sisters. Can we please revisit? Can you get me a screenshot? I'm going to bring it back up for you right now.

I'm going to make sure we're all seeing it live here. Yeah. You were right. Let's give it a second to catch up because screen share sucks sometimes. You have to examine this. There it is. All right, yeah. There they are.

There's the droids. You know, and we see her fight Grievous eventually. right in the trailer. So maybe this is a revenge arc for killing all the night sisters, you know? That's her. Yeah, there she is. You spotted it. I knew it.

I spotted it. And I need to speak. I need to speak when I see because I felt that. I was like, no way are the night sisters finally being revisited, getting their due. But she's going evil mode. She's going evil mode. This is crazy. Which is a real change for a night's sister.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Anyway. Where is she being held? Berris? Yeah. I don't know. Well, probably that prison, right?

Probably the, the Tarkin prison that Assook was held in. Is he training these people up on Mustafa? I mean, I don't know. There was sort of, that final duel had like lava pit in the center vibes. Yeah. We did have those vibes. Yeah, could be. I don't know.

No. It's a ring of fire, but I don't know. This kind of feels, it's kind of giving Mustafa. You know, that's just Sith, right? Would he do it at his house, though? I don't think he'd like. Well, yeah, I don't. I mean, like, the way they drop to their knees.

I know. I dream with having a studio in like a garage. So I guess if I'm Vader, I'm training the inquisitors, like down the hall. Down the hallway, yeah. Yeah, because he's not leaving home for that. That's a, you got to come to me situation. That's the one useful thing we learned from Obi-Wan. He doesn't leave home for much.

He loves, right, exactly. He's in a stick there. God, I forgot out that whole part of Obi-1 where they go to the prison thing. I forgot about that. Wow, wild. Oh, God. All right, we should talk about these episodes.

And, hey, the words Mustafa said on these episodes, and we get Seven Sister stuff, which, which I don't know if this Inquisitor here is that character. Maybe she doesn't. I know, but maybe she got a promotion at some point. We don't know. Maybe she becomes the fourth sister A lot of them have the spinny thing

So it's hard to tell It's hard to tell But no this is she's a different species She is like hair tendrils That's different I think Still Are we sure this isn't the seventh sister

Like barely I mean That was our first impulse That was our first impulse If it turns out that she's the seventh sister And they did no work with that In these episodes I'll be pissed in retrospect

That would be quite an annoying retcon It would be But I do love the seven Maybe she gets like Mind's wiped. I don't know. I don't. It's this shit. Anyway, Rob. All right, well.

Tell me about these episodes. Yeah, so we'll take them one of the time rather than doing the big overview. We did do three episodes in the end. We made the game time decision to push our recording back today. But because I was like, there's no way they're not going to pick up this thread. And this time they did. Yes. Sort of. It's still mostly a standalone.

It's still not the episode I thought the next episode would be. But it does follow on from the end of the second one. in a really clear way. Yeah, I'm glad for that. I don't know. We can revisit where we're just want to move to a straight three every time cadence or not. I'm good with either.

Yeah, we could do three, three, three, two. Because the finale of the season is a two-parter. They have the same, it's Twilight of the Apprentice, one, and two. So, you know, maybe we do three, three, three, two. And then that's the end of the season. And that way we have room at the end to talk about the whole season. So, yeah, cool. All right.

But let's take the episodes one at a time. Let's do it. Especially this one, because this is the kind of the standalone, the most standalone of this group. So we continue exploring the tensions and mutual respect animating Rex and Canaan's relationship in Stealth Strike. Let me tell you, if you're a fan of spaceships and the old legends universe,

you're dining well tonight. Because the catalyzing event for this episode is Commander Sato and Ezra being captured by a hyperspace blocking, interdictor cruiser. Embarrassingly, the second they were yanked out of hyperspace, I, like, I shot forward out of the couch, waved M.K. to shut up as if she might be about to speak. And then I was like, it's an interdictor.

Rob, where is that interdictor from originally? Do you recall the original place of that thing? I remember its first appearance being an heir to the empire. Okay, so. And then it's in Tie Fighter. It is not. It is in those, obviously. But it's from the tabletop game originally. Apparently, it was a response to GMs being like, I need to stop my players from fucking hyperjumping away every time.

Certainly, the Empire has some tool to stop this from happening, right? And in the West End games RPG, that is, I believe, where this first showed up. And there's a previous, I skipped over this, but one of the previous episodes of this season, I want to say, I want to say it was the ship that stops them in Blood Sisters maybe Oh no, it's not, it's Wings of the Master

Wings of the Master Also explicitly has The B-Wing episode It specifically has references To the West End Games RPG Also, specifically the idea that there was an important Mon Calamari designer

of the B-Wig and that it took place on the planet Shantapole. It literally the name of the Expansion was, or the name of the supplement was Strike Force Shantipole. And that is like the most deep cut nerdy shit in the world. Dave, you're a real one. I'm sorry I ever doubted you. So.

Wow. So here we are again. We should buy the old source books for this and then like play a campaign of West End games, Star Wars. We should do this at some point. I would love to have the time to do this with you, Rob. Who knows? Maybe I will soon. Maybe someday we will.

Let's do it. Who could say? Anyway, so they are hauled aboard the interdictor cruiser, which, how it works, it's got like four gravity wall projectors. We'll get to the... Actually, we'll kind of learn as they disable it, so we'll talk about the sort of doctrine around the interdictor and how it works. But anyway, they're hauled aboard for interrogation by its clever, but not quite clever enough captain, and Rex and Canaan have to sneak aboard the ship to mount a rescue, relying on their respective expertise to bluff their way into the heart of the cruiser. The rescue goes well with some hijinks.

There's a lot of hijinks, as always, and Rebels. Ezra and Chopper succeed in sabotaging the cruiser, but Rex is captured in the attempt to making a heroic last stand. I don't think he had to, but he does. And Cain has to pull a one-man army to get him back. As the gang fly away from the dying interdictor, we know the two have formed a strong bond as they exchange a salute. Yeah.

I'm sorry, I should have. I should. Yeah. truly truly truly truly this is the first time we've really got in boys yeah this is the most like clone plus jettie shit that we've gotten so far since rex's came back come back to the team you know yes yes i'm glad we're here too because i was i was not with canon on all this it was getting to me i was tired that's just because you stand the boys you know well i stand the boys i always like to see boys is hanging out.

Yeah. But also like, like every time he like, like vaguely threatens violence towards Vex, Rex for no fucking reason is like, you're a Jedi. And also you're a crew. Like, yeah, but the Cones killed his master in front of him or whatever. I, Rex, I, Rex didn't do that. They're clones. That's the whole thing.

So he's not going to throw a punch ever. He's not ever going to throw a punch. I just think it's hard to separate that out. Like that looks like the person. who killed your master. Sure. Like the eight guys who killed your master. I don't know how it went down.

But I've seen how the other Jedi guy got. And it's like, oh, 10 people. Like, it's not good, you know? Sure. I mean. I think it's a lot to process. He gets there. I knew he'd get there.

Right. I'm glad. Maybe they should have fought it out. Maybe that's just, yeah. Yeah, you know. I think we're also kind of, like, I think this does kind of highlight the fact that the tension that's being resolved here doesn't feel like they've really compellingly developed it. because it is just kind of like the tension is Canaan's just kind of weird toward Rex

rather than really getting to a place of it feeling earned, right? Beyond just the like theoretical, our abstract knowledge that clones killed his master versus I think will probably be a more authentic to have him really get into the fact that I'm not really sure you have free will, man. I'm not sure I can never really have your, like, have your back, you have mine. We don't get that. We don't get the real conversation about the real stuff underpinning this instead. Wolf isn't here.

Wolf was the one who betrayed them in the last instance. And like he's not here to take that heat. You know what I mean? Importantly, this came from a previous Rebels recon, Wolf and Gregor just stayed on that planet. Wow. Sling him for jupas. Pablo suggests that they may.

have repaired and taken over one of the ATAT walkers is their new home. They have a bigger sloopa or jupa slain. They're slinging for jupas on a farm in New Hampshire. That's what he said. He was like, they, you know, they have these other AT, you know, they may be maybe move to bigger quarters because they have. Are we never going to see them again? I have no idea. That might be, I mean, they're not part of the resistance. I mean, what he says in that Rebels recon is basically like, well, think about their state of minds. They might not have been cut out for the Rebellion, which that's such a shame, IMO,

because I would have liked to have seen them more. But I do like saying Rex. Yeah, I was excited for them to join. Yeah. I do think, though, Rob, that that that Canaan does gestures kind of towards

some of those I like more interesting points of conflict when he said at some point he like says to Rex what if you get in there forget which side you're on, which I feel like is a joke but is also kind of real and is kind of gesturing more towards the like how much of what you did and do now is free will and how much are you like following some scripted behavioral or like, I don't know, I wish we

would have had more... I wish the conflict between them would have been more centered on that idea. It's tough because it's like... But I feel like Rex already covered that because he said he took the chip out. Well, and that's the problem.

The problem is it's a chip. And like, we, I think we're always on the right side of history and we said the chip kind of undercuts one of the fun dimensions of the clones doing this when they were ordered to do it. Because if they did it

because they were ordered to do it and almost all of them did it, just because they were ordered to, that is really compelling in Canaan's case, right? Yeah. You know, and truly, how do I know you didn't kill your master? And you're just lying about it now. All the rest of your boys did, right? But the fact that he's like, oh, it was a chip to kill all the Jedi.

I took the chip out. So I didn't do it. It's so pat that it kind of undercuts some of that tension. And especially the thing that sucks about it is he's not wrong in one certain way. which is, there's that conversation early in this episode where Hara is like, well, he can impersonate a stormtrooper. And Canaan's like, that's because he's a stormtrooper. And she's like, he's a clone trooper. And he says, same thing.

And, you know, for Hara, the clone troopers showed up and saved her people on, on, what's the why am I'm linking on the name of the, Ryloth? Thank you. But for, but for Canaan, and not just for Canaan, for the Admiral who eventually interrogates Rex, hey, you built this. All this shit, that was you. The Admiral later tells Rex, not to jump ahead too much, but he says, like, you know, I serve the order that you put into place. And Canaan sees that. Canaan sees them as the sword by which the empire was forged, right? And there's a direct connection. There wasn't all the, we've talked about this before. All the clones were not like one day, no more clones. Many of the clones trained the

current generation of Stormtroopers. Rex gets an offer to do that in this episode. There is a continuity between those two things. And for Canaan, that's really sorely felt. I wish I had been given a little more time to breathe since Rex came on board. Like, I kind of wish this was like a later episode in the season and that we had one or two. I wish they had gotten into a scrape. I wish they had gotten into a fist fight that had been calmed down or like, I wish, you know, I would love to have seen Rex hurl something at Canaan about, like, not being able to protect his master or about, you know, something. Like, I would have loved to have seen Rex try to get under a Canaan's skin more directly at some point. So there'd be a little bit more even footing with

this. But instead, and for what you said, which is, he's kind of weird about it for eight episodes and now we're here. And it requires mom to make them make up, which is another, like, role where Hera has to be the, yeah, basically like CO slash mom of the group because Rex, Canaan's plan is like, well, we got to go get Sado and Ezra. Me and Zeb will do it. And she's like, you and Rex are going to do it. And it's partly that, you know, their skills are complementary in this matter. But it's also clearly a, you guys just need to go on a fun road trip. Yeah, y'all got to work it out. You need a buddy comedy adventure. Yeah, exactly.

I'm like, I'm happy that it's, like, we end this episode and it's resolved in their friends, but it does feel like, okay, so we're just not going to get that kind of, that tension is gone. Like, I feel like there, yeah, I just feel like that clone versus Jedi was kind of underutilized. I wonder if some of the Vader stuff will bring it back. if we ever get, if they ever learn who Vayner is, you know. Especially because, I expect you will.

To the other part of this, Rex just still hero worships the Jedi. He doesn't have any like weird feelings about how they were, they were the meat shields for the Jedi. Like, yes, he was a very privileged position of clones and he has a little A team of like top clone buddies. They were doing like the elite warrior shit. But there is no sense of,

we were cannon fodder. Like we were literally like churned out. There's none of that either, which is, I think, the other part of this, which is we don't have a Rex sort of chewing over a lot of the themes that the Clone Wars brought up, where give clones a minute to think about their lot in life. A lot of shit comes out. And with Rex, do you pull that chip out too? Because it just doesn't, they pulled out the Umbara chip.

You forgot all about Umbara. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the interesting thing is also how willing he used to slip into that role. Like, he does it again in this episode, and he did it the last time where it's like, you know, I'll stay behind and be the one who shoots while you guys get out of here. And it's like, oh, Rex, be part of the team. And the great, see, the thing, you know, going off our discussion of Hannibal last week and sort of the, and also like the Michael Mann version of this character. Have you started that show yet?

Did you watch him? Oh. Can I tell you I forgot to also mention that fucking Gillian Anderson is in that show? What? Yeah. I saw that tweet. She can't be in that too. Yeah, she's great, too.

She's great in it. Wow, it's like the rocketeer of TV show. Everyone's in it. But, but like, an interesting version of this would be Rex just loved doing this shit. He loved being the wingman of, like, watching a Jedi, just like carth through a thousand people. And, like, he's just in it for that. And this is a way for him to get back into his happy place, which is being the

goneman alongside, you know, a magic space wizard. That would also be an interesting space. Like that is the like, that is the, the, the Hannibalverse, red dragon verse, like version of like where Rex would be, which is that the monster's being awakened by the fact that like now he gets to serve a Jedi again. And ultimately, that's what he's there for, not really a cause. They're not going to do that either. Instead, he's going to be like, this is not, I reject all of this.

You know nothing of my work You know, Empire Speaking of something I low-key love So we meet Admiral Brom Titus The guy who's commanding this sort of imperial speed trap As it were Yeah Who looks like an extra right from a new hope

I hate him The long hair Yeah I love I actually love that they're having Imperial haircuts shifting into the 70s Like fashion mode Yeah

That we associated with like the 90s are ending from the Clone Wars into Rebels and like the Imperials are all adopting

70s like long quaffed hair It's very funny to me I mean the hair is great But he like Always looks like He's pounding a little bit Like there's just something

A little bit off About his model That I was like This is such comfortable for me He's sad He's always a little sad He looks like Callis is a weird cousin He does look like

Callis is a weird cousin He's like He's like, Callas got him this job. You know what I mean? Or like Calis pulled some strings. Calas' mom is just off screen, just like Cyril Carnes is. But she's like, can't you do anything for your cousin, Bram? You can't do nothing for your cousin, Bram?

You don't have a little admiral spot you can get him? There is a vibe, especially when Bram calls in that he caught Sato and Ezra. And again, Brom's not a fool. He immediately knows who Ezra is, especially when Ezra Paul says, I'm job of the hut bit. I love that coming up. He tries to say he's job of the hut again for like the eighth time

and finally it blows up in his face because like the Imperals just keep a dossier on on aliases presumably. Oh yeah. No, they can't search through files but if they keep a file out, they remember it. Yes, exactly.

But yeah, so he's like read the file. He knows who the kid is. But the minute he like calls it into Agent Callas, there is a vibe of now cousin bram i know you've done a good job and i'm just i'm just telling you don't do anything else you know like you know you really had you really caught it you caught one on the line here and i'm just telling you you don't need to dress that thing you don't need to clean it you don't need

to gut it i'll come do all that you know this is where it all goes wrong for you when you try to do too much i'll be there just hang just hang just hang don't fuck with that kid yeah which is the key The key message. Like, don't fuck with that kid and don't trust he will stay where you put him. Triple guard. Which, to be fair. He did do. He didn't get a chance.

He didn't even get them to sell. Ezra got out first. Yeah. They should just kept him on the ground where he was with people with guns out. Stay here. Stay. Stay. Stay.

I kind of like that he's on that Ray program where it's like his superpower is basically being Slippery as hell. Ezra's. And Callis has this instinctive fear of like oh no, Dennis the menace is going to do something again. Like this is, he's aboard

the interdictor cruiser. That's the worst place he could be. Well, I guess we don't have an interdictor cruiser anymore. Fuck. Right. It's no captain. Your men are already dead.

They're talking about like a 14 year. Yeah. It's a real you're trapped in there with him moment. Yeah. But Ezra is kind of a beast in these episodes. It's very funny to

gone from Bloodsisters last week where he was like literally kicking rocks and woe is meaning to hear where he is like on his shit wall you're doing wall running. This is respawns as where Bridger is here. He's doing

he can double jump. He can double jump he can. He's still a loser. Damn. Whoa. Oh, wow. Are we going to? All his lines are annoying still. He literally literally gets made because he's still using

the Jabba the Hut I mean yes 100% but then he like turns on his lights his work but that's right he wants him to know he wants him to tell him Jabba

was here yeah that's right I guess he turns on his lightsaber while they have it that's cool I admit that it's cool I'm just saying everything that he says the way that he is written he's still a little boy

he is a little boy yes but he's being written like little boy he the thing is like last episode he was like little boy in a different person show and now he's like little boy in his own show he's like peter parker as spider man as a 15 year old you know what i mean like that's a really good point i hadn't really clocked that shift but he does feel a lot more centralized in in like grounded in this season than in compared to last season where he was just kind of finding I mean, we were all kind of finding our footing with all of the characters, but he does feel so much more like the anchor between everyone.

I mean, this episode specifically is him being like, y'all have to get over this shit because I have to go be the main character and you're my two dads. So get the fuck over it. Something small that I want to point out that's interesting about the choreography here, the action choreography. not only is he doing a wall running and just like beating the shit out of stormtroopers left and right and like impressing people every episode I think that we moved the first two here have moments where someone is like don't go out there by yourself and then he does go out there by himself and wins right and he's like there's the bit where like him and and Rex like damn okay like I didn't know you I wasn't familiar with your game like extremely impressed by

the way he handles the situation in fact he shoots both of them when they come to rescue him because he's already free and he thinks of the... That is a great bit. The moment where he sees Chopper, and then we have the long-delayed coin drop as he realizes the chopper's there. Right. Then those two guys are good.

He doesn't come alone. Yes. And those two guys are my guys. And then Chopper snitches on him. Oh my God. He plays the tape. He plays the tape of Ezra shooting the two undercover, yeah, Rex and Tchon.

Chopper's got to keep it real. I guess so. I guess so. He's got to keep it totally, totally real. Yeah, and chopper doesn't lie Trupper is never lying Allie, I'll tell it like Just no integrity from your from your end here today

Just whatever Whatever you charge us you can make stick on Ezra You're running that kid in on him Am I not stating facts? Oh man I'm in agreement Truly Was it Officer Krupke?

Yeah Just real Real Officer Kruppki energy from you right now, Alley Oh boy I'm just telling it like it is Sorry I'm saying what I said The thing I was building to is

One thing in that choreography Besides just he is strong And besides like he's doing risky shit Small detail is I notice that he doesn't reflect Blasterbolts back He bats them back He's like punch He's like hitting them back

With force And all of his choreography Has a lot of like Power behind it in a way that It did not in the first season, certainly. And not even really for the first half of this season, but now he is, like, swinging that saber in big, strong motions. And that plus the way he runs off by himself had me, and specifically with Rex looking at him, made me realize that one of the stakes of this show is going to be, is he going to Anakin himself, right? His parents are dead.

Does he have the support necessary to prevent himself from taking angry violence? action, right, to get revenge for them, for instance. Or simply, he has a strong heart and a strong sense of justice. When the rebellion leadership says, you can't do X, we don't have the position, we're not in the position to do X. Will he accept that? Or will he go off on his own and go try to solve something for himself? And one of the later episodes today, there's a moment where he's just like, I can't figure this out. The force led me here. Why didn't it lead me further? And he gets angry for a moment, or he gets frustrated for a moment. And Canaan is there to be like, all right, like calm down. And like, if not for that, where does his, where does that line of

emotion take him, right? And I hadn't really thought about Ezra as being one of the stakes of the show in this particular way of like, could Ezra walk the same bad path as Anakin that Anakin eventually does is not one of the things I expected to care about. But seeing him, like, grow powerful is like, oh, right. Jolly are actually kind of dangerous. And one of the big things that makes them dangerous is they want to change the world, but sometimes can't do that and that leads them into dark places, right? Or the other side of they want to change the world, but not that bad. Which of those sides could he fall bad on, you know?

Especially, I think, over the course of these three episodes that leaning more into kind of offensive, aggressive fighting style becomes more and more evident. And as we will kind of come to see, it sort of aligns with him tapping into his emotions and feelings more and more. So I think you're probably on to sit. I feel like that trajectory makes a lot of sense. I would love it if like gifted Jedi could have any other type of story, then my parents are dead and I might get a little evil about it. But, you know, it's fine. That's the spice.

That's what that's the X factor that gives you. It rhymes. That's what gives you your first round draft pick, Jedi. Yeah. Coach, let me show you this tape. Yeah, he's pretty good. And his parents are dead. Oh, put him on the board.

Put him on the board. We got to trade up in the draft. We got to trade up in the draft. We need him. We need him. Get him on the team. That's rookie of the year right there. son how do you like a speeder that's right

it says I'm not supposed to take gifts this isn't a gift this is uh this is just alone it's different well we'd be giving it to your moms but you know she's not around so you know I just want you take receivership of this car these jokes aren't going to play in like three years because we're going to be so deep into the world where college students make money now so we get all of all those jokes out as we can right now Well, people listening in, like, years to come, just read about the old NCAA and just the world of off the book compensation that exists in that world.

There was one thing I wanted to just quickly ask you all about the scene between Brahmin and Rex, where Brahm does sort of highlight the fact that he serves the empire that Rex built. To a degree, like, so he's making Rex an offer. This is after Rex has thrown himself away, as you noted, maybe none necessarily, when they're like down the hallway from where the ship is and he like pushes everybody else forward. He's like, I'll hold them back. And like, I don't know, you could have gotten away. But then he gets captured. Yeah. So I was of two minds.

I think to me, I feel like both things are true in the same. I'm curious, your temperature on it. On the one hand, he is trying to trick Rex. This is a cop offer, right? Like you, you know, if you just sign this confession, we'll make sure you get leniency. You know, there'll be no. On the one hand that I think is what is going on. On the other hand, I'm not entirely sure he is fronting about like, this guy's an honest

to God war hero. Right. There's a degree of honest reverence of like, holy shit, this is Captain Rex. Yeah. What are you doing here? What he says for people who didn't listen are like, you're a clone. You used to be a war hero. Like, I scanned your number.

I looked up at your file. You, you know, you genuinely were a hero once. You, again, he really believes you brought peace and order to the galaxy. Why aren't you loyal to us? It offers him, hey, turn in your people. Come teach with us at the academy. I'll get you a cushy spot, you know? I kind of believe the offer, but maybe that's just because this guy has a weird face and sad eyes.

and he seems the type to make this offer genuinely. But maybe I'm wrong. He's uncanny Valley Patrick Jane. Oh my God, he is. He is. Patrick Jane, the mentalist, for those who are not. He really is. Patrick Jane, the mentalist.

Yeah, I feel like that is kind of the weird, scraggly vanity of the character. Yeah. He's like, he's like, Patrick Jane's Australian, right? Was that right? I see that. Sorry, Simon Baker is Australian. He's like, he's like, uh, UK. He's like British Simon Baker, Patrick Jane.

Yeah. Yeah. This picture where he has the under eye. Let me see it. Let's see it. Like bulge. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Mentalist is really good. People should watch the mentalist, too. I'm not going to ask hard on it because I've done that before, but people should. Also, from the devil wears Prada fame. Oh, yeah, sure. He plays the evil guy.

Spoilers for Devil Rist Prada. Oh, no. Wait, I thought, I have the bad person. Isn't he kind of, he's kind of an asshole. She's one of them. I feel like there's probably a bunch of people. Many devils wear Prada. We can't all be Stanley Tucci.

Damn. They can't. They absolutely can't. Ain't that the problem with the world? So, yeah, but, yeah, to me, it does kind of feel like, and I think this gets at some of what you're, I can't remember what was in reference to last, last episode, Austin, but talking about sometimes the frustration of,

it feels like too many Imperials are in on the gag that it's all like Sith, pure, level of human shit. It was, it was Callis saying, the rebels always like to come to help people. And it's like, shut the fuck up. Whereas this guy, I think, is much more of, like, what you'd like to see, which is this guy who, like, he thinks he's the inheritor of a great victory that established this new order. And he's defending the fruits of that victory by commanding this interdictor and, you know, turning, turning rebel agents. And this, like, so there feels like there's less just evil for evil sake, pure nihilism to.

this guy when he's making this pitch, which I dig, which is why I think the, maybe the offer is bogus, but I don't think the spirit behind it is, which I, which I kind of dig in the scene. Yeah, I'm with you on that read. It makes sense to me. Of course, it doesn't matter. Rex would never take this offer, and Canaan decides, of course, to go back and save him anyway, you know, and I'm watching this now and really calls to attention the thing I was saying before of the difference in reflecting.

bolts back. Canaan is just like almost absent mindedly like block, block. I'm blocking these incoming blasterbolts. Not a big deal. I'm turning. I'm talking to Ezra. And when Ezra's doing it, it's like, ah, like batter fucking up. Different vibes. But, you know, we're going to get the heartwarming Canaan decides. That's his boy. He's going to go get him. He busts in. They shoot the interrogation drone, droid, before it starts doing its work. They fight their out. Totally passable episode. Right. Yeah. I will say the only last thing I wanted to say about this episode is that I had the exact, like I, I think I was the ideal watcher for like the first five minutes of this episode because as, as Ezra got pulled out of hyperspace,

I was like, how could you pull a ship out of hyperspace? How could that be? How could that be possible. Wow. And, and Hara, and Hara says the exact same thing. Like, you can't pull a ship out of hyperspace because you never know where it is. And I was like, that's what I was thinking. They had, they got you. Exactly.

And then the, and then Sabine, which we didn't mention this. You're right. We find out that the reason why this crew, like, Sabine tells the crew that while she was at the Imperial Academy, she saw them developing. these gravity wells and this must be and then we come to find out the area specifically that the imperial this imperial fleet are in

is like a testing grounds for this gravity well which is interesting because it's like this is another recurring thing with the maybe it's not interesting but it is another recurring thing that we get with the empire in this era is the empire is an empire super weapons you know

we talked about this a lot during maybe maybe during Andor and the focus on the Death Star Creation, but also in Clone Wars era, that like, oh, look, you can see the first shades of the empire to come, that the empire is about technology. It's about one big weapon. And also, it's really playing on a lot of the kind of like the secret super weapons of the Nazis, of the Luftwaffe, like that era of, or that part of war fandom that's, like, really interested in all of the weirdo things that didn't get off the ground, all of the secret

experiments that didn't quite work. That is one of the touchstones of the way the Empire has always been depicted in Star Wars, especially in expanded universe stuff. It's fun. It's fun to have a, it's fun to have a villain that has a big super weapon of the week sometimes. OG Gundam, you know, first Gundam did this big time, the same thing where it's like, okay, there's a bunch of regular robots, but then they also have these big mobile

armors that are like goofy, sell a big toy play set ass. you know super weapon of the week that's going to get that's going to get got um but it does you know as far as the kind of episode of the week story of the week thing goes how do we deal with this big interdictor ship is fun you know um and then how we deal with it in a funny way fun hijinks filled battle with chopper and ezra wrecking out sabotaging the uh the gravity well generators and then we get a pretty awesome death throws of the interdictor as it the You know, we get chopper going wait for it as they are being pulled back toward the interdictor, but so is the entire Imperial fleet as its projectors go berserk.

And it implodes. It implodes. It sucks all the ships into itself and that collapses into a little black hole. Brom makes it off the ship and we do get a comical sort of coda on his story as Callis arrives just a bit too late. And tartly notes that things do not appear. to have gone well. Yeah. I love the ships crashing into the interdictor.

The interdictor is like a big Star Destroyer-ish design, but it has these kind of big outside dome bulbs on it, which are the gravity well generators, and seeing these other smaller cruisers kind of slam and scrape into it. It's some of the best destruction work we've seen in this show so far. It looks, they got obliterated. They got fucking obliterate. When the whole ship explodes, it looks sick as hell.

It's wild. It's so cool. Yeah. This is, it's fun to see people, it's fun to see them playing with these toys. It just works when they go big like this. I, original Star Wars era ship design just rules. Sato's ship, which is the same sort of blockade runner that Leia has is just a cool design. Like, yeah, it's good. I have one piece of, um, I want thing that bugged me in this episode, which is they have this Imperial Shuttle, which they joke about early on being like, is this not the same shuttle or do we just steal? another one. But in it, Sabine has graffitied Rex and Canaan. Bro, we're going undercover. It's a great image. It's Rex like

dual wielding pistols and cane with a lightsaber out. It's very cute. But it's right behind them in the cockpit. You couldn't have put that in like one of the private quarters. You couldn't put that in some up. No, it's like in the cockpit. If they could, She's an advocate for boys' love. I guess you're right. I can't fuck that.

Old Man Yowie is here. Finally, it's made it to rebels. It's very funny. Yeah. Good episodes. Totally, totally good. Yeah, good times. Just a fun adventure.

Next up, we are back to some old school, and I do mean old school, vintage Jedi order business as the future of the force opens on a force-sensitive baby being taken by fifth brother and seventh sister as they massacre a starliner full of people to get to their target I was horrified all I could think about was like that could have been us yeah it could have been us wow just to happen oh wow wow so true

so true she should have gone to the sublight lounge just never would have gotten to happen yeah just go chill there it seems like the only killed people in that one hallway I just would have been somewhere else I would get a crate dragon reactor thing I just think the servers at the sublight lounge would have just dealt with it you know what I mean

Can't do that in here. Yeah, you're not allowed. I'm sorry. I'm done. Also, it just shows how far the universe has fallen, like the baby's being cared for by a sentient being. They don't have uba boobo-droids. Well, we do get an updated oobo-bubo droid in this episode.

We do. Do we? We get the big stick-shaped uba-duba. But it's like, it's like... No, I think that was a hussled... I think that the uba droid has gone from insect to bug. It's gone from boobah to kiki. it's just a big stretched out

lot, you know what I mean? It's just a bit, it has the back. I think that was, I think that was a, I think that was a Fantasia mop that was totally a different job. And I think that's how far we've fallen. I think the Empire said get rid of the roundness. You don't have the Uba Buba droid. Right. This is all we got.

You just got to make your, you just got to make your Roomba do it. This is what I'm saying. And your Roomba has to be a big stick with like a, the the Uba Boobo droid that we get here, the the whatever household chores droid that we have here, I killed you in Arbor Corps six fires at the Rubicon. I'm sorry. You were just some tank treads

and a tall pole. I whooped your ass. I got a little arena emblem for you. So apologies for that. I didn't know that you were a caretaker of children. I wouldn't have done it. So apologies to the new stick droid. Wow, this is just like that moment

in All Quiet when Paul reads the like wallet of the French when he killed. Yeah, who he killed. So Cain and Ezra and Zabend chop are sent by Asoka to look into rumors of the inquisitorial baby stealing we've just seen. They go to the planet Tocobo while she checks out the starliner and finds the baby's granny still alive. Meanwhile, four ghosts and a baby hijinks ensue as the gang rescues an

Thorian Jedi baby and then plays cat and mouse with the inquisitors first in tenement and next aboard speeders racing through traffic. They're finally quartered and before they can get to the ship, you know, they lose their fight with the with the two inquisitors. But the blast doors open and from a wall of pure white light comes to Sokatano who quickly bests the Imperial. She spares 7th Sister, rallies as a legion of reinforcements arrive to corner Soka who merely force jumps off the planet basically by catching the phantom in midair as it lifts off. Unfortunately, as the episode ends, we see 7th Sister playing back a recording one of her adorable probes took of Ezra comforting the baby by inviting it to come live with

them on Garrell, accidentally detraing the location of their hideout. He's so lucky no one learned that that's how they found out. He's so lucky. For now. Yeah, I guess so. I guess for now. I have one important piece of trivia before we start. What was the name of the planet that this takes place on mostly, Rob?

Tacoba. Yeah, why do you think it's named that? Because we're getting some classic Clone Wars writer's room shit here. Oh. Taco? Is it to do with tacos? You got it in one. I will read to you from this entry.

The world Tacobo may or may not have had his name derived from the fact that the dining option on that day of the writer's room was a nearby taco bar. You know? You know. I think we could have been del taco. You're right. That's true. That's true. Tocos so epic.

I'm fucking awesome. Damn. Awesome taco. From the minds I brought you tequito. Fucking tequito. Oh my God, is that right? Fucking tequito. You don't remember tequito?

Fucking tequito. Wait, I don't remember tequito. You don't remember tequito? I don't remember tequito. It's a snap. We're just talking about this episode. On the J-Bo Hood episode, the way that we learn. So much happens in that episode.

You have to remember The other half of that whole episode Is Nouveauvindy shit happen Yeah, I know The other half of that episode for like It feels like hours somehow Is Padmae slowly dying from the Nouveauvindy poison While her secret husband

Has flown away To the planet of a thousand moons In fact, I guess that whole episode Was a one hour special So that, okay But yeah Yeah, the guy who gets killed trying to escape the planet is Takedo, a friend of J-Bos, who gets electrocuted before his ship explodes.

Yeah, he's like a Rodeon named Takedo. Riders' rooms, they've been known to be snacky. That's true. They get hungry. That is simply true. Work doesn't end of the time. That's right. So many games you have to come up with.

I mean, for sure. So I'll just say this from the opening here. So Seven Sisters is a bit of a fixer opera. I will concede that. I'm not sure, like, you know, arguably her Florida was a red flag. About the seventh sister. Are you about to be like,

no. I'm listening. Wood. I mean, you said Wood last episode. I'm just saying red flag, may have been a red flag, that she was like, Ezra Bridger,

welcome. Not a good, maybe not a good sign. All that energy is gone this episode, by the way. Yeah. I can see it also, like, she might just be evil. Well, you kill a lot of the people.

Yeah. Was it killing all the people to try to steal his baby? I guess it was Fifth Brother mostly doing that, right? No, who throws, he throws his, like, that was his, uh, also he's trash at doing that because he does at the end of this episode and doesn't pull it back to him. It just clatters across the ground. He's not good.

He sucks. This is so interesting. Fifth Brothers introduces like Vader's sending. Yeah. You know, an elite inquisitor And his fifth brother Who seems to just be bad at this And Seven Sister seems like the brains

And the brawn of the operation I might be back in Yeah, yeah She is the rebel She is rebels Mara Jain Oh my God Now what if And I think that this comes from a conversation

From a friend of mine I don't remember who suggested this What if Barris Offey becomes Asoka's Mara Jade that's what I would like to see I would like to support this yes Mary Jade is evil

Mary Jade starts no well but she she starts as an adversary is she an emperor's personal assassin yes does that make her evil okay yeah we should just get

Mary Jade building people have jobs that's right people just got a job okay all right okay I understand Mary Jade revealing to all of why a

Twitter that her actual job is being the secret assassin of the emperor

health care is good anyway shots sometimes you guys fire some shots off

the other thing about this episode that is a goofy trivia piece before we

get into it too deep is the name of the first baby is a Laura which is the name of

the baby in Willow that the movie Willow is about um who is looks like this baby big head old baby getting carried around and in willow allora is like some sort of empress like some baby empress i don't know i'm not a willow head yeah do you know willow willow the other the other big lucas swing of the 80s in 1988 uh Lucas arts Lucas art Lucas film made a a fantasy movie called Willow um with like um oh my god what is his name

What is the Al Kilmer Warwick Davis Who had previously been Wicked The EWalk is a major character in it Yeah We should watch that at some point

That'd be a fun We should And American graffiti Just covered the George Lucas bases I was thinking today That there's like a film list That I want to put together Of things that I want to watch

Before and or season two Yeah The Battle for Algiers Michael Clayton Michael Clayton Oh we should watch Michael Clayton Have you all seen Michael Clayton Michael Clayton?

That's a good movie Anyway More about these stolen babies Did you all have a good feeling What the babies are being stolen for immediately Yes immediately I guess the name of the episode Is Future of the Force

Which kind of like suggests it Even without that But here's the thing How many quizzers are like They're not creating an alternate Jedi Order, where it's just like Bizarro Jedi Order with Quizners. But that's not what they were doing last time either.

So remember we did this plot before. Yeah. It wasn't about creating alternative Jedi Order thing. It was that Palpatine was going to put them into like a brain

juicer that gave him psychic powers. I forget the name of that episode was. It was like Children of the Force. Right? Am I misremembering this? At the end, the whole thing was that he had a device? I don't remember the device. There was a device.

Was there? Yeah, there was a device. There was definitely device. Yeah, I think his whole thing was like, I'm going to get to see the future by brain draining these guys. Maybe I'm wrong. But my point being, I don't think it was as simple as I need more inquisitors. I'm raising the inquisitors. He might also just want to kill them to prevent them.

I just don't understand why they're just killing the babies right away. Right. Well, that's the thing I don't get. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because seven sisters too good and she wouldn't allow that and knew it. But you could make, you could make dark Jedi. You could make, you know, a bunch of.

But they don't want a lot of dark Jedi. Like, this is the whole, like, I mean, they want some to, like, quash out what's left of the Jedi order and the potential order to rise again. But they don't want, they do not want lots of force users running around who might potentially become a threat to, like, this is the whole thing. Palpatine seems to have engineered this really carefully to make sure no, we're not we are not going, this is not going to go bad the way it always goes bad

for the Seth. Yeah. I see what you mean. Yeah, that's a good point. But that's the one part of this episode I don't fully get is like, I don't understand. It's like if the reveal is like, this is how they're creating quizers. Yeah, we kind of knew that.

They're clearly like sourcing force sensitives for for this purpose from somewhere. But, like, I also don't understand why they would just take the baby off the ship and not just, like, you know, kill it. Yeah, okay. Here is, here is, I found, I found the script. I found a transcript of Children of the Force, which is the episode in, in Clone Wars. I will say it's very funny because the, it has been censored. There's a censored script.

The word, the opening is a thief hunted in a daring assault, Anakin Skywalker and his Padua, da-da-da-da-da-da, but assault has an asterisk in it to prevent it from saying ass or assault, I guess. Oh, my God. The word slave has been, uh, has been asterisked out here. Very funny to me. Anyway, here is what-Tik-Tac sensors are coming. That's right.

That's right. The uba-dubidroid, uh, says, they're there, child. Soon you will cry no more. Master, subjects of this age rarely survived the slave conditioning procedure. and Palpatine says, I'm afraid the risk is necessary. And then he continues to say, the natural talent these children possess is too great to be wasted by the Jedi. I foresee an army of forced talented spies in my service, trained in the dark side to peer into every corner of the galaxy from afar, and my enemies would be helpless against such a vision. If the surgery fails, I will have lost nothing.

so he's like he's going to give them he's going to chip him he's chipping him he's chipping him yeah and then they're going to be his little his like his minority report spies basically right and if they don't survive then he still wins then he still wins right exactly so i think that's probably what he's doing again that's my guess but maybe you're right maybe it's more inquisitors though we know at least one of these inquisitors is ex- Jedi right didn't somebody mentioned didn't one of the inquisitors at this point mention falling not falling, but... They mentioned...

So we know this from the Calcestas games. Right. Explicitly, the Inquizry made in the first game is like, I was a Padawan, Dunzo. Obi-Wan, also same story, ex-Padawan. Yeah. But I don't know if they're all ex-Padawans. I don't think they are. Yeah, I don't know.

The timing on it's weird, right? Because it's like, did he have enough time to get an Inquisitor training program up and running for for children in, I don't know. It's been 20 years, right? Almost 20 years. So, could have. Anyway. Investigating the children or investigating, that's right,

they don't even know it's children at first. They just know the Inquisitors are moving. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Asoka shows up and she's like, I've been trying to listen to Anakin's phone calls. I can't do that. She does not say Anakin.

She doesn't even say Vader. Right. She's the Sith Lord. Yeah, she just says, I've been listening to the comms. on Mustafa and I can't unencrypt them except that I know the Inquisitors are going

to these two locations basically Do you think that's true? Do you think she's heard more and she's not telling them anything? Yeah, she's known to lie. Damn true. There's that great moment early on in this episode where she shows up

and she's like, I'm here on Jedi business and Canaan is like then I guess I qualify and she's like, you qualify more than I do. I found that really good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy to have a bunch of Jedi who aren't Jedi in this show, the way it should be. Them comparing, like, a cert versus a bachelor's of Jedi.

Like, I don't know. Do either of these count? I don't know. I don't even know. I think it's a cert versus an associates, really. Yeah. You know? I well said, like, the little Thorin baby, it's cute, them finding, like, like, them find, going to the apartment and, you know, discover.

the story and then chopper turning out to be really good with uh with a with a baby is a is a funny bit it's very cute i also really love um i really love uh the i forget what i really love something else about this baby that's all it's just fun fun to have babies as a as a as a as a as a gag and a show that's it i thought there was i thought we were waiting for them to find the blueberries that the baby had been eating because Pipey had like purple like stains on their hands and around

their mouth and I thought the reason why they kept crying was because they wanted their like juba fruit or whatever that they had been cooking snacking on and I just kept waiting for the shoe to drop for like them to be like wait look at its hands it has purple hands

We just got to get the Jew or berries or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I remember the thing I was going to say that I like, which is, um, yeah, the, the baby, I think specifically, what is the Thorium baby? Is that, Pipey? Is that Pipey is voiced by Dee Bradley, D. Bradley Baker, who is D. D is Rex, is all the clones. Uh, and so they got D to do the baby voice in this episode, which is fun. That is very fun.

That to me is great. I felt bad for the, for the, for the. that was running around hiding the baby. Was it, was it trembling with fear when Zeb cornered it? Yeah, I think so. And then he wouldn't let it come with. It was like, you've got to be a decoy. It died immediately.

It died immediately. That was me in Armored Corps 6, Fires of the Rubicon with a laser blade. If you would turn the corner, you would have seen very similar maneuvers to Austin and the fifth brother. That's right. That's right. A hundred percent. We'd love to smash robots in the little.

pieces. And then, you know, we get a whole chase in that tenement building, lots of like, you know, back and forth through the catacomb, the sort of warren of rooms that they're running through. Yeah, it's a fun chase. I do love, it's a good car chase. It started and made all the funnier by the fact that the driver of their car is completely like press ganged into it.

just a guy who's convertible they fell into? They land in? Yeah, it's good. Wait, was that not the mom authoritarian? I don't think so. That would be wild luck, was it? I couldn't, I was trying to remember what color the shirt was, but. Oh, maybe it is.

No, she looks too shook. Whoever that authority is, like, shaking when they run away. I think it's a different authority than the one at the end. Oh, maybe it isn't. Maybe that's the same short color. It's that green shirt. I thought it was Yeah

I think it's her Damn I think it's mom Kid with her right Well they're protecting them I mean at the end She's in the She's in the ship with them at the end

Oh right Because he's like Go to Doc and Bay wherever Yeah we're going in well Yeah okay so that is her Okay Shut out Damn

Damn she got the forest How she show up in exactly the right time It's got to come from somewhere that's that mom strength that that's that mom drifting yeah mom's mom force yeah mom force that's right people will be forwarding the synopsis of this episode on Facebook like this is this is what it is to be a mother oh god yeah um I you know I think I I want to say about some of this like I like this chase just fine I think the chase in the building is fine it's good it's good um they're hitting their beats right there's

some gags they do cut up a perfect circle in the roof at one point We get Ezra crawling through some vents and the fifth brother almost stabbing in. We get, you know, some thermal detonator grenade type action. Like, you know, all that stuff. It all hits fine. But there's something about this location, both the interior of this kind of tenement building. And then, which, by the way, the name of this neighborhood is Hammertown because it's like an authoritarian slum. And the people of the planet are racist, I guess.

So they call it Hammertown. That's foul. It's foul. Um, uh, but that end the car chase and then especially the big final dual area. This feels so clone wars to me and that it's fucking empty. There is no one moving around these places. We are in a fucking PS2 level. Like, you know what I mean?

Like it is hallways with doors that do not open. Do not try that door. That door is painted on. That door does not open. Maybe it opens to let three stormtroopers out at the time until you kill them and then three more come out. but that's not a place you can go. And this whole back end of this episode has that feel. And it's interesting because it's not like Lothal is, has been more dynamic necessarily,

but I haven't felt it the way I felt it here, felt it here, you know. It's funny because when I was going to point out that the landing sequence on this planet looked really good. Like I thought the planet looked really interesting, the way that the like, the buildings, the domes and stuff. Yeah, the buildings and like the dust kind of parts of the ground peeking through like piles of dust or dirt sand or whatever it is. And then, yeah, then we enter it and it's not as dynamic as could have been. You spend your budget where you have your budget.

But yeah. We did get a perfect circle. Perfect circle. Oh, we did. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That means Canaan is training them right. They did a collaborative circle drawing. It was perfect.

Not since Barris and Asoka Have we seen a team-up circle Quite like this That might even have been a square I don't remember But anyway Points the same And then we get the duel

This is also the first time I've really felt the filter That they put on To stop the like If you're watching this on Disney Plus Whenever the Inquisitors are on screen With the red twin-bladed lightsabors That do the rapid spin-around thing

For people who are not watching again They can hold their It's like a circle that they have the saber, like, hilt inside of, and the blades are on the outside of the circle so they can, like, rapidly spin around, like, automatically. And whenever they're doing that and the camera is close up on them, they put a filter on the screen to, like, prevent it from, it's for, like, epileptic seizures, right? Which I think is a really good thing to have on this. But it makes everything really dim, right?

And as far as I know, there's no way to turn that off. And there are some extended sequences where it's on here that make the shots. I was wondering what it looked like shit. They make the shots really dark and like illegible. And it's a bummer that there's not a way to be like, okay, I am not epileptic or I don't have a risk of seizure, you know, warning or no one is with me watching. It's something I take seriously. My mom had a brain surgery when I was a kid, had seizures before the brain surgery, had seizures afterwards, had to be careful around certain times of lights. I take it seriously.

I'd rather it to fault to be on, but I would love to have an option to be like, show me the version without this because I would love to see these fights without the dimming built in, you know? So, this is the first time I've really felt it because it's such an extended series of shots that look washed out and dim, you know?

It's hard to read them, so. Yeah, it's, they just slap it like a, everything looks very gray when they slap the filter on. Yep. It's been happening with a lightsaber fights. I just figured it was like a weird, like, HDR thing that was happening or something.

But, yeah, it's kind of a, this is not, they probably should have an option to talk about it off because this is kind of a big issue for a Star Wars thing. It's kind of the thing. It's good that you figure out that filter should be there. Yeah. But also, if the solution is like, well, I guess the stuff just can't look right for a Star Wars thing,

that's probably not a great solution. Yeah. Um, but yeah, uh, it doesn't help that Asoka's got the brightest lightsabers of them all. Right. She reveals her new sabers here. They look so cool. She is so epic and cool when she fights. I love to see her do a like super jump into a dive like Mario,

cat Mario. Yeah. Does the cat Mario attack. It's a really cool. Because the last time we've seen her, she's saber fight? She hasn't yet. This is the first time we've seen her pulled the sabers out, right? So that means, I just want to get in the right head here, the wrong Jedi, where I don't even remember if she does any lightsaber shit.

Does she? The final episode of that arc? I don't remember if she does, but let's say she does some in there. Maybe she escapes and uses the lightsabers a little bit. You mean at the end of Clone Wars? At the end of Season 5 of Cloned. Remember, we've seen a whole season of Clon Wars. In the escape from the prison, she doesn't tell you.

Yeah, which is to catch a Jedi, which is, regardless, that's either February 23rd or March 2nd, 2013. No, she's stuck waiting trial in the final one. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't remember her doing any lightsaber stuff there. This is December 2nd, 2015. So almost three years between getting to see Asoka at the end of season 5 of Clone Wars and now do any lightsaber shit. So I really like, which honestly with our personal schedule, that might lie.

and up closer than you might think. So it's been a minute since we've seen her show out, and she does. She has the backwards style. She's the two sabers. They're all white. It's fun. All white is a fun way to do sabers where you're like, I'm not a Jedi, but I'm not a Sith, you know?

It's so cool. I do have a white cyber crystal for my lightsaber. You do. I just wish Fifth Brother and Seventh Sister had a little more juice. it's like this is a little bit like an ace pitcher from like you know

the Dodgers or like this is like Otani like after the search you know like yeah this is like you know prime Otani or something this is Nolan Ryan coming out and these are

these are minor legal these are minor leers yeah they get the fact that she like there's a point at which she she set her sabers down to she does she turns her own sabres off and like bows to let the seven

sister jump in and then she puts her sabers down and then reaches up and catches her lightsaber the seven sister's lightsaber in her hands and tosses it to the ground and force powers it off bro yeah she's so strong she's so epic and strong she's so epic and strong she gives seventh that moment to like

you know you're dead well we're here again folks it's a star wars reference you are beaten is what Darth Vader says to Luke at in the Empire Strikes Back when he has him in this exact shot but reversed like he's facing screen right instead of facing screen left with the thing down so she is echoing Anakin without knowing it here we are of course the thing that then happens does not happen for Luke Luke isn't like you're the one who's beaten and then 30,000 rebels roll out on him but instead that is a what happens here. A bunch of stormtroopers show up. She could have won this fight. She should have just stabbed.

There are many moments in here. Just kill him. There's a moment early on in this fight where the fifth brother lands at Canaan's feet. And Kane's like, all right, time to go. Just be like, boop. You're dead. That's it. Come on.

Has anyone been killed yet outside, like outside of the Grand Inquisitor? Just the Inquisitor and some, yeah, I think. Tua. Though there's a character. Well, she explodes, right? But we don't, we, in the way. that Anakin um stabbed uh that guy through the back right i see what you're saying like i feel like we don't see people get like it feels like in some ways rebel skews a little younger than

clone wars in the type of content that it is portraying we see strong troopers get shot and maybe get stabbed but usually they're like we don't really see them get stabbed because i i i distinctly like what in the last episode Ezra doesn't yeah he says that thing he breaks their light to he doesn't even attack them he uh sorry not like he cuts their guns yeah they're blasters and then just kind of like

throws them against the walls but in the next episode he'll be you know a little bit more forthcoming but it seems like there's a lot of like non-lethal offense there's a lot of like so like tons of people will die in like ships exploding crashes obviously right we're going to see some of that the next episode uh also there's moments that are like weirdly horrifying like when canaan

was using the force to yank stormtroopers out of cover for wrecks just like sketched them that moment was wild brutal just being hauled out in the middle of the hallway to the growing pile of your buddies to just get killed by this old man this wizard friend that's fucked up. So like it's cold down stormtroopers and then you get things where the show like we'll like if we just don't show it, it's like it didn't happen. Like Grand Inquis are killing those two guys

with those two officers. Yeah. There was a thing that I'm reminded of here is Ryan Pequin, Pequin, who used to do a webcomic called three word phrase but was also on like regular

regular show is the thing that I'm remembering but I think Infinity Train also. So These are like children's cartoon shows, noted once on Twitter that they could kill anyone they wanted to as long as they exploded. If the way that they died was explosion, it would always get through the internal, like, review, basically. And it wasn't like an official thing. It wasn't like, hey, we've said that, you know, you're allowed to do this as long as they

explode. But you could do whatever the fuck it was, as long as you didn't, you know, zoom in on the body. and what happened was boom explosion dead and obviously it's a different type of show these are you know more comedic shows um but you know that seems like the rule here largely you can hundreds of people in a spaceship explosion you know you can you can see people get shot if they're wearing armor and like it's not sure if they're dead or not but we have not seen we certainly aren't seeing like people getting cut up by lightsabers we might get some like slashes across the chest type vibes and we definitely get

blaster bolts knocked back into you you know yeah but but yeah we need more blue eye samurai in rebels I think is what we're getting at that's what they call that's what they call uh Ezra the blue eyes samurai

in what way more times of I think people get cut the fuck up yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah why not I don't think it'll pass I don't think, uh, I don't think that's where they're going with the, with the series these days. That's what a madeleurian is for. I mean, I, I, I've seen those costume changes later in the season.

That's true. I, you know, there could be some stuff happening. Yeah. And that's, uh, so they, they made the escape. And then, you know, the, the, the, the end is the realization that Seven sisters getting that recording that the droid took of, right, as we're comforting that kid and betraying the location of their hideout. this is why you can't ever speak

regular language to a little baby when you're a spy or a rebel you gotta just be in the uba-duba mode you can't be saying I can't wait to take you back to the secret base they don't even say each other's names out loud on missions you're gonna talk about where the secret base is

you should just never say that word out loud yeah yeah that should be the rule like make a code word call it just call it base just called HQ just call it just base back home the main one or don't call it I mean just say the spot yeah anywhere anything yeah but the name of the planet that anyone could type into or you can't have a fake one you're gonna be like I can't wait to get you you're gonna be

everything's gonna be okay once we get back to Corrassan and then we go on Corrassan whoa they're on Choruson? That could have spun the ISB in a circle for like five years. That's right. 100%. That's way too much that's way too much

like spy spy master type stuff that they would never be able to. They would met Luton yet. So. Deidre being like, I really don't think there's a cell of Jedi on

Corazon. Calisbeon. I swear to God there is. We just need to keep looking. God, I want Deidre and Callis to meet so bad. I just need to know what the vibe is. He could never compare. He could never compare. I mean, the actual problem is I think that Cyril would think that Callis is the coolest person who's ever lived.

I, but like in a way that makes him hate himself. Oh, yeah. He, he, he would hate him. This is true. Well, in real life, he definitely can. Yeah, but it's a character. The character can. The character can't, no.

And he hasn't made any sort of peace with that or found something that works for him. Yeah, no. God, he's going to show up with facial hair. The first shot of season two is going to have like a tiny mustache. Oh, no. Well, that's because he finished. That's because he finished that season with all the swag, unfortunately. Look, we're just not, we're not prepared for season two, Cyril.

Cool. He's going to be locked in. It's not going to be locked in. He did lock in the final. He did lock in. He might have in the first. He locked the fuck in. He

he absolutely did do that. He walked through that crowd and locked in and he grabbed her and he took her into that room. And they had words. They haven't had an exchanging of certain words.

Certain words were said and exchanged. That's next year, right? We saw like a year before that's about it. He still had like 40 billion hours to exist before we. It's fine. means you might finish Rebels ban. You know, who knows? That's true, that's true.

It'd be great to be able to do that. It'd be great to be able to go right from Rebels into Rogue 1 and then Andor Season 2. Oh, that would be amazing. True. So I take back what I said. All right. So in Legacy, Ezra Bridger wakes from troubled dreams to find out that he's had a vision of his parents that guides him back to Lothal. This forces Cain and Ahera to, I expect this to be much more of a gun going off, really.

It forces them to level. with him about what they learned last season about the fate of his parents, which is, yep, they were in prison. They just didn't know which prison because there's hundreds of prisons they could have been kept in, but there's just been

a mass breakout that has caused a massive list of escaped prisoners to leak. And Ezra uses the force to find an entry that calls out to him. It helps that this entry has a humanoid. I

on it rather than the many other like aliens and robots that we see as other other imperial prisoners um before they can go though to to loathal to figure out what what is going on with the parents callus and several star destroyers arrive to hit the rebel base uh they get in a fight once again with the inquisitors bar barring their path asra gets a little a little heated a little darksided maybe before he's hauled out of the fight by Canaan. And then as they make their escape, Heron and the Ghost have to stay back

to help the rest of Phoenix Squadron evade an Imperial Tractor Beam and Canaan and Ezra head on to Lothal where it does look like Minister 2 is back. Bro. That's just her. That's just her. She's living her best life.

She was just hanging out down there. I think it's her. It's her with like slightly darker skin and like a slightly different She's just a re-colored. She's a jazz lady now. Yeah. She's down there. Let her rock.

I don't know. Take a different name. She has realized her destiny to be a kooky arts lady. That's the vibe. Like shows up and like local galleries. So they get up. They get on the trail. They're sort of, they're guided.

Did you finish your thing? Did you not want to explain what happens at the end? You don't wait until we get there. You didn't finish. Like, did you tell us? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

But yeah, they're guided by a mystic loft, uh, loft cat to, uh, oh God, what's his name? Ryder Azadi. What's his other name? X10. What's his other other name? Who is it? Clancy Brown. Clancy fucking Brown is.

I was sitting there, I was like, is that, that voice? I thought of Clancy Brown, but I was like, they don't generally reuse voice actors. They don't. Well, but Clancy Brown's other character. Clazzo Press is dead. And so they can use him again here. Clancy Brown, the incredible character actor, maybe that's reductive. He rules, has been in stuff for a long, long time.

I think everybody has a different fave for him, both as an actor and as a voice actor. My fave is that he plays Brother Justin Crow in Carnival. I know a lot of people were introduced to him via Highlander. I know a lot of people who know him from Shawshank Redemption, obviously. Spongob. He was SpongeBob. He was Mr. Crabs. He was Mr. Crabs.

I didn't know that. I don't know. He's Mr. Crabs. He was Lex Luthor in all the D.C. animated universe shit forever, like through the 90s and 2000s. He's just an all-timer. And so it's fun to have him here as a character who, I believe will recur.

This is a new guy. Yeah, he's fresh escape from the Imperials. He explains to Ezra that Ezra's broadcast, his freedom broadcast from end of last season, sparked this huge, this huge riot. But in the process of the escape, his parents didn't make it out. And that evening, as it returns to his old tower spire, the, the, hangs out at. He doesn't. Oh, it's a different place? No, he's on the rock. He's on the rock. But he's on the rock and has the vision of being back in his. The force brings him to the old tower spire. Yeah. And we get a glimpse of the city before the empire came and transformed

it. And we see that like before all like the squat like dome structures that the empire built, it was a city of spires, narrow spires, very, very wizard of Oz. Honestly. And that's such a cool shot. That's such a cool. deal. Yeah, I love it so much. And he has a final conversation with his parents that sort of mixes timelines where it is what they were saying at the time the empire arrived and also as a parting message from them. Yeah. He's sad. Such a good episode. Even during this, did you hate him, Allie? Did you reject him even now in his moment of weakness? Loser. Loser L, L, L. L. L. L. Stacking L. Yeah. Your shitty little broadcast got your parents killed.

Good episode. There was, there was, okay, I will say that there's the, she didn't say no. There's the chase scene where it looks like somebody, somebody watched that scene and was like, oh, you have to put some words in there. This can't just be a silent, because like, they just say a bunch of shit that makes, like, it's a quips for, I understand. This is tense. It could just be tense.

I don't need these quips. But besides that, fine episode. Which chase is this? Is this the, is them chasing the cat? Chasing what? It's when they're chasing the loath cat through the, like, town. Yeah. Allie is not here for your fun cartoon time.

Folks, grow up, kids. I mean, I really, I do, I'm, I'm quick to call out when the show has good cartooning. So you can't say that. But here it was like, there's, I can see the ad hoc post-production here. but it was great I really love the vision I like that you can tell that they invested more in the like camera work in this

in the like just staging work in this the like scene where Hera and Canaan are like showing him all of the potential prisons that his parents can be in and he's like in this little like closet on the ghost like surrounded by these bubbles I was like, this show has not looked this good in a while.

Yeah, it looks great. There's a particular shot where the, it's called the Phantom, right? The little fighter ship that like undocks from the ghost and like the camera kind of follows it. That is really, really cool. We've seen that sort of shot in Clone Wars once or twice before where they were really paying attention to ship choreography and camera work. but, like, it really, really plays well here. And all that ship stuff is actually cool throughout the, you know, basically they go on ahead while the rest of the fleet is trying to escape Gorell.

And so there's like, you know, the kind of B plot is can they get off this planet safely? And that stuff looks great, too, throughout it. Really great color work with the, um, the garell that other planet has like these purple skies that make everything kind of like bathe in this light. It's great. The dream sequence was also, like, kind of good and just the hard-to-grab logic of it. Yeah. The fact that they've, better than the last sequence, which was obviously, like, just cuts from the episode that, like, are going to be out of context.

And that's the sort of the trick that's being played on Ezra. Here it is a much more, like, this is a force vision, the kind that Yoda knows, right? where it's like, it's really hard to get at exactly what the hell the force is telling you or what it's saying. Because, you know, Ezra has a vision of, like, coming into the cell where his parents are being kept. But then he is a prisoner in the cell and the lock cat releases him. And then it releases him that he falls infinitely into a pit. So, like, that was kind of neat. That was that was well executed.

I also liked that he didn't that he didn't become a petulant child about the fact that Canaan and Hara kept something from him. Yeah. Wasn't much. They admit like they looked into it. They had some piece of information, but really not much.

Nothing they could tell him that he didn't already suspect, which was his parents were in the system somewhere. Right. Well, specifically at the time, as a reminder for people who have not watched these episodes and also maybe didn't watch the previous ones, or like the last season or who don't remember it

because it's been over a year or it's been close to a year in the first season we get the Rodeon I forget what the Rodeon's name is who tells him that he knew he knew his parents

and all first to tell him Sebo Sebo right Seibo with T-S-T-S-E-E-B-O right and Seibo offers to tell him what happened to his parents

and he's like no I don't want to know I already know. You don't have to tell me. And it assumes that they're dead. I think I really love about this. And I think maybe part of why he doesn't get petulant about it is that Canaan and Herra are quick to be like, we tried. Like, Sebo told us this and we didn't just sit on information. We called in favors. We've been asking around. Like, we did everything we could to try to locate, confirm what he said. And then to go from that to narrow it down, we just couldn't, you know, which is interesting. You know, I think that that kind of brings, brings him a little bit of, you know, I think it probably buys them some sympathy from him and prevents him from being his winiest self, which is good. Because I would not have been able to stay in this episode, if it was him for 15 minutes, being like, why do you guys hide this from me? Yeah, it shows like a level of emotional maturity that I'm glad Ezra is developing. And it takes seriously

The thing is It takes seriously The premise of a lot of the episode's conclusions this season Which is like, we're a family We all love each other We do all support each other And if that's all true Then he needs to be like cool about this

Because if he isn't Then it suggests that he doesn't have that trust with them yet And you're also just repeating Yeah you repeat the same lesson over and over again Like and I think that we know that Hara and Canaan have Ezra's best interest in mind. And there wasn't anything, they weren't really holding any information from Ezra that was meaning, like that not necessarily was meaningful, but was actionable.

Like there was nothing with the information that they were holding that could be done about up until this like prison break update they got but um speaking of hair uh why uh is his hair so shiny in this episode there's 14 minutes into this episode there's the shot of ezra 1410 i'm playing the tape play the tape 1410 it's like straight on at him his hair it looks like it's made of it's it is the worst it's been which is saying something because I already don't like his big glob of hair the way that they're doing it's so shiny it's so shiny it's metallic they put the metallic filter on they got him in the dragon's dog character creator put the tattoo on his hair and put metallic at 100 maybe he's trying to make

work you think he's trying to that you think it's a new hair product that he's been putting in his hair I think he was like I'm gonna go find my parents I gotta get the shiny It would be a pomade guy. Oh, it's the Lothal water. It has a different mineral. The water of the ghost is too hard. You're right. You're right.

That makes sense, actually. Yeah. Anyway, thank you for humoring me. Yeah, we get early stuff in this episode. He does look like something's living on his head. It's weird, man. It's giving tent. He has all this, like, animal force connectivity.

stuff. Maybe he's got some sort of animal living in there. Is this like a ratatouy situation? This is what I'm saying. Maybe this is true for all the Lothal people. We just haven't put it together yet. They're humans. They're hiding their hair parasites. Don't let people see the tentacle things. That's right.

And he's like, I'm out here and I'm proud of my hair tentacles. Which is cool. But he should tell us about it. I want to know. Why is it all metallic? Is it because you need high iron content? Like, what's going on? Anyway. There is one moment where he gets kind of petulant. And like you said, Rob, there are moments where he's angry. He's looking for his helmet. He does come across like a little boy then

when he's like, where's my helmet? I need my helmet to go do this. And they feel like, we're going to go with you. We're here. And he's like, oh, right. Okay. Yeah, sure. But he, I mean, he does, you know, it's one correction. To me, I don't, you just found out that your parents are alive and are in prison, you're allowed to be a little bit of a baby about it. But he, and give him the one correction, he corrects himself. It's not so bad. Um, so I'm, I'm so willing to extend it. But then yes, during the fight off of Gorell, this is one of the moments that he goes absolutely ham and just like carves as well, he goes through a bad real fast. Right. Like he, he, like they get cornered by callous and bunch of stormtroopers. Yep. And they're

a crossfire. Yep. They don't really have a plan to get out. And he just bum rushes everyone, kicks all their asses, flings callous like a ragdoll. And it's like, and Canaan has that moment of like, hey, damn work. Yeah. And then the two visitors come. And he's like, heat check. Yeah. He doesn't know like berserker rage mode.

And it's clear they're just like, they're happy to let him come because they will be able to handle this. Like this is, he's just about to. But he's like the red mist has descended. Yeah. And Canaan bails him out by shooting the door and it does the Star Wars thing of you shoot a door lock and it slammed shut and, you know, he's cut off. But, well, and the other thing is this. The only way he wins that fight is if he goes just full dark side, right? Like, that's the thing hanging in the back in this fight is like, he seems barely in control himself.

Right. Which remember, there was a little bit of that in the first season where it was he had to control the animals to beat the Inquisitor to escape the Inquisitor that one time. time. Remember that? It was kind of goofy, but like the idea was that he was like, mind controlling the big creature, but the creature was kind of darksided and kind of gotten to him a little bit, which I think is a much less interesting version of some of this stuff. It's like the opposite in many ways of the more subtle version of like, oh, his fight choreography has gotten angrier and more passionate, you know? So I'm glad they're going this way instead of that way, for now at least. I'm sure we're not done with the Ezra can connect to animals bit. Not least of all, because in the previous episode, Canaan calls out that Ever's power is connecting to people and things. Yeah, that's a good point. You're good at connecting to things, you know, kid. Just connect to the baby and make it stop crying.

It's sensing that you're not calm. Anyway. Also, I did appreciate before the ambush started. This episode, this week's, uh, Sabine is given something to do for a second, moment is her realizing, like, wait, there's no Imperials around. That's weird. That's because the Empire

always pulls back for a major operation. Thanks, Sabine. Get in that co-pilot seat. Don't touch anything. Sabine has huge, like, player who isn't at every session but shows up and the GM is like, actually, you know what, Sabine, you could roll imperial knowledge just to see if you know anything about this. That way I can keep you involved at the table because you never hear and sometimes you're on your phone

when you're here but I want to keep you involved oh hey yeah so you know that like it's standard imperial procedure to like pull back their forces before a major operation yeah

okay so guys I tell the party or do you just tell the party no no go ahead tell the party tell the table fuck it I'll give a drink

now there is the other version of this story which is it could be the player who is constantly ignored by the GM who is like, can I please roll Imperial Intelligence to know this? Fine, go ahead and roll it.

You know, there's that version. Yeah, but that's because you shouldn't have created a character whose whole deal was art bombs. They're doing so great a custom skill. I had to create a fucking feat that doesn't exist in the fucking game. We all like to hack play. That's true. We do.

I'm an art bombs master. Okay, great. So what bonuses do you want for that? Yeah. So funny. They're doing her dirty this season. It's not good. It's bad.

There's 11 episodes left. They sent her off on a you star on this episode. It's the Sabine show. Well, we're not doing that again. Lesson learned. At least hair, like, they're not doing great by hair this season yet so far either. But you at least get her in these key moments here, right? And I can say something that's, like, unique about her in any one of these episodes.

There's a moment here, in fact, in this episode where Ezra says, thanks Hara and not thanks you two about Hara and Canaan, because which I thought was really fascinating because it's like it's him reading the situation and deciding, you know, Hara is the one who put in the work here. Herr is the one who brought this to me finally, you know. It's not a diss of Canaan. It's not like, well, thanks Hara, you know. like thanks Hera but not you Canaan it's not that at all it's just him like cutting through

the moment and being okay I owe hera extra thanks in this moment right yeah um and she has you know she's she's she's she's phoenix leader that keeps showing up she has an ongoing plot line with that stuff now yeah the he's doing a lot it is her right now it is when i was in imperial school they showed us their awesome weapons platforms well i one of the um i don't think we're going to go to the Thaloney zone today. We have some time limits and they weren't that exciting anyway. I, you know, I guess I'll say one cute thing, one Dave thing. There was a whole section on Asoka coming back in the previous episodes. And Dave hit his classic Daveism where he was like, as far as I'm concerned, the whole episode could have been 21 minutes of lightsaber

duel. That's what I wanted, which is classic Dave. And he also, a point was like, there's going to be a bunch of other sword fights later this season, which made me go, you're getting it. You're getting the George Lucas in you. You didn't say lightsaber duels. You said sword fights. That's right. That's what they are. Don't forget it. But in one of the, one of the people who asked Pablo a question during this run of Rebels recon, it's like, wait a second. Sabine is 15 now or whatever, 16 now. You have to be, no, it is. She's 16 now. You would be 15 to go into the Imperial Academy. So when was she a bounty hunter? It doesn't add up. And Pablo was like, well, look at how cool Sabina is.

Sabine is so cool. They probably made an exception for her at the Imperial Academy and got her in at 13. You can't even say she lied. You can't be like, we're going to learn about her main-in-back story. Maybe she lied on her floor. She straight up says that she was such a prodigy that she got in younger. Boo. She's an afterthought.

That's so bad. That's so, tomato- tomato. Well, I keep hearing this ends up becoming the Sabine Ren Show or that she ends up being like the secondary protagonist I'm not feeling it I'm not I'm not stoked for that it's not happening

it hasn't started yet finally Star Wars with some ill thought out Mandalorian characters Lord if I can allow myself another bad opinion while I'm already hanging on

Ezra there was when he was approaching Callis I was like Calus please don't take this L please don't take this L God. That's so funny.

I mean, you know. It makes sense that he did. It was a great moment that he did, but I'm still rooting for Callis to be cool in the end. At least the, it wasn't like a, it wasn't too goofy. Like he pushed him in a way that like

was a little bit more tough. It wasn't banana peel. Yeah, it wasn't like, it wasn't fucking like anchor or anvil on the head. You're right. Yeah, he didn't get Wiley Coyote, you know? Yeah, exactly.

It was like a little bit more physical than that. Well, I do think there's a bit of the distance between Calith and Cyril Karn is maybe not as great as I initially, like, felt in the show where I was like, ooh, callous seems like he's a dangerous opponent. And now it kind of just seems like he's a mid-level bureaucrat. I've been saying this since the beginning. I've been saying he ain't shit. The inquisitors are giving him shit for respecting the rebels too much, which we talked about last time. We talked about him referring to, like, the rebel admiral or whatever, instead of just calling them pirates or bandits or whatever, right? And here there's a bit where he describes them as being, like, clever, right?

Because what they're doing on Garell is they're hiding their ships across space ports, basically. They're not all in one place, which would make them easy to see. They're spread out across the planet, space ports, or across the city space ports or whatever. And the seven sisters, like, you respect them, even though they represent your constant failure. And his comeback is perhaps Inquisitor, we can achieve together what we have not a part. Because it's like, you are also stacking the hells over there. You are not free from sin. The way Admiral Constantine speaks to Fifth Brother.

Yeah. It's just like naked contempt. And like, no fear. This is not like, ooh, the Inquisitor might lose a shit on me. This is like, you are trash. It is, it's great. Like, Constantine basically just, like, sort of dryly observes. He just, he looks forward to the day the Inquisitors find the cruise results.

I kind of wish that Constantine was Wolf Yilaran, because I know he's out there. And I want Wolf Yelaran, who you, y'all might remember as the Admiral from Clone Wars, who is like, like, Obi-Wan and Anakin's, like, guy. And he pops up in the ISB in, in, uh. Right. He pops up in the ISB, right. And he eventually is on the Death Star or on those shifts. You're right.

I guess that's the thing. He ends up being an ISB guy, not an admiral during this era. So maybe that's why he hasn't shown up. But I would love for him to show up in a role like this because the idea of like our old Clone Wars admiral turns out to be one of these guys is true. And I want to see it more, you know? And I don't want to just see it with Tarkin. You know, Tarkin sucks. Tarkin always suck.

But we like Yalarin. And I want to, like, that's part of the thing that we don't get from clones because they're chipped, but we could get from officers. The officers were not chipped. Well, if you learn did not go through the clone surgery to get the chip in his head to make him order 66. The emperor said, oh, order 66, and he was like, damn, true, right? Like, he ain't have anybody's back as far as I know. Maybe we'll learn some of this in Badbatch. You know what I mean?

But, which I'm hyped on. I'm hyped to get to Bad Batch. people are talking up bad batch so also that's a good way to test test like the the rex reaction to that without going straight to aniken you're right like i would love to see how he would respond to yeah finding out about that yeah he must know right he must know that all a lot of these admirals and isb guys are ex-republic army right i want to hear him talk about it come on show me yeah i don't know he doesn't have like the shame about it though right like when he's like me and cody invented these codes you're right like i don't think that he understands the

yeah where's cody now rex by the way what happened what the fuck is cody huh i would love to know last we saw cody was revenge of the scyth shooting at at uh uh or at obi won his big animal friend and his big animal friend yeah so I don't know I don't know Um The escape sequence is great You know

The space battle One thing I didn't remember Did the Phantom Always have a dorsal gun That Chopper sat in It's always had It's all

I think so I don't know if Chopper always sits in it Chopper may have earned That right After going Scarface With the dual wheel A few episodes ago

I don't know But I think it Oh no You're right You mean the Phantom The Little Ship Yeah I don't know

Huh That definitely looked like a little turret though, right? Yeah, it does look like that Yeah I've never noticed that before Maybe it has I don't know It's a good sequence

And like again Spaceships just looks so fucking good in this The three star destroy is coming in low Over the city with the search lights The search lights down God, it's awesome So good Yeah

Again this is the stuff That's just going to get me As like a kid who grew up With this stuff This era of Star Wars It being my favorite thing As a kid And, you know, I've talked a lot about that specific disappointment hitting at Return or Rise of Skywalker being like, oh, I guess I'm closing the door on my Star Wars love now because they scuffed the landing so bad.

That I, there are shots here that give me the feeling of like a type of fandom that is fairly rare for me that, like, gets me excited in this way. and those Star Destroyers showing up, like, hit that note for me in a way that's, like, so rare that just reflects that, like, they're playing with the toolbox and the toy box in a really successful way. You know, it doesn't need to mean anything for it to be well made. And in this case, you know, nothing doesn't mean anything, right? It's a great show of this imperial power, and it's like, it's communicating something about who the villains are, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But mostly, like, it's just a well-composed, you know, cinematography with Star Wars stuff. And I'm happy to see it every time. So.

Well, and we get like a little taste of like the violence of this type of combat. Like, when they shoot up that transport, we see it like go burning down. And we cut to the view from the Star Destroyer Bridge where it's just this tiny little like comet streaking toward the city. Speck. Yep. Yeah. And it's just, it's a great sense of scale. the abstraction

of all this at the level like an Admiral Constine operates at and we do get another moment sort of reconfirming what the show's been driving towards a lot

this season which is that to a degree it's almost like it is like as you point out with Sabine it is maybe a structural issue that's cropping up

with the show but like Sabine and Hera are kind of on a different path than Ezra and Canaan like their responsibilities lie with Phoenix Squadron and their responsibilities lie with the rebels,

they go off to assist the rebel escape and then they rejoin the fleet when Sabine's like, where are we going? And it's not even a question. They're going to go be with the rebels. Canaan and Ezra are out on their own on Jedi business. Yeah.

And the show right now has cared more about Jedi business partly because it's the series, right? Or that's the franchise cares about Jedi business, right? I think at its best, it does a good job of balancing that. It's why Empire Strikes Back is so good, right? It's like half of that movie is Jedi business. The other half is asteroid stuff, is Cloud City, and all that stuff rocks.

So, you know, the balance can be really off sometimes. You know, I will say I don't think that Sabine and Hara are getting the love that Han Solo and Leia get in the original trilogy, you know. We'll see. No, I mean. So much of their deal is about. their role as it relates to the rebellion and like oh it kind of always being in service of the rebel movement of like phoenix squadron whereas canaan and and asra seemed to be on a journey as it real like their journeys about themselves in their relationship to their their

their kind of own makings in the force and, et cetera. Like, it's just such a more individual, like, they're a part of the rebellion, of course, but it's so much more, it's so much more, like, individualized with them, whereas with Hera and Sabine, and even, like, Zeb and Chopper, like, it's about kind of them and the group and the rebels that they serve. Yeah. so well it's interesting because like canaan is resistant to it and in a way he takes ezra out because you know ezra's following in his footsteps so i wonder if there will ever be any tension there

where it's like not her and sabine making that decision it's ezra and canaan needing to make that decision and like which way they will go right like yoda telling luke to stay on daga and him being like no, I need to go help my friends. Right. Right. So when Canaan and, and Ezra get to Dagup, I'd meet up with Yoda, Yoda could do the same thing. Which is definitely going to happen.

Don't tell him we were here. We have to see. I promise you. We're going to see Yoda. We're going to see Yoda. And when it happens, I'm going to punch a hole in my TV. We are going to see Yoda this season. I feel it in my heart.

Wow, this season. They are not going to go one season without Yoda. Truth of the Force is speaking. to you and through you and I believe you 100% the vision is clear

Unambiguous Yeah I don't think they can go A season without Yoda There's gotta be a Yoda talk to us On the Halcyon I do remember Yeah this is what I'm saying Oh my God

On and off That motherfucker showed up At the lightsaber workshop I know We were the only three people That were like Come on They were not even Jedi

In the lightsaber workshop That was some old archaeologist motherfucker who was like a fan Yoda's on cameo Yoda's like talking about 150 imperial credits I'll drop you a 30 second message

I hate the Saja I hate the fucking Saja they're bullshit liar impostors and the fact that they Has everyone checked in at all on the I only

I hope no Saja are listening to this. I hope they are. For some reason. I only look at Facebook like once the season. I looked at Facebook on like April 2nd or whatever and I saw one post on one of the

Galaxy's edge thing that was like I really didn't appreciate that joke from yesterday because it sucks to get people's hopes up. Wait, what was the joke? I didn't really look into it, but I assume that it was an April for a fool's joke of somebody being like, yeah, they're bringing it back.

Damn. Which, fuck you. Yeah, that's a bad joke Because if it was real We would be booking our flights Right now We would be going back Time to light another fortune on fire

Yeah, let's fucking do it Except this time, this time I'm not like I would probably just be like Guys I'm just going to be in the sublight lounge This entire trip, let's hang They should bring it back for just Just us

And then we have to pay for SWUPSCC crew Us Swoop can come. Swoop can come. Swoop can come. Neop Patrick Harris is banned. Yeah, anybody we were cool with

can come. Should we be looking out to see if like the other Star Cruiser people are like planning their own meet up events? They are and do and have. Right? Look, here from Hunting Me West Virginia,

some people met up and stack the sajara rocks. Oh. No. We'll miss me with that. You don't want to stop. Going to West Virginia to stack satcha rocks. Well, you don't like this.

You don't like to stack the rocks. I'm not doing that. Oh, no. Oh, no. This, this is very funny. You know, this poster's very funny. It's a very funny poster.

People, it meant a lot to people. I would know what that's like, but, you know. But I would go back and drink some drinks. Wait a second. March 25th, guests looking to get a sip of the Star Cruiser will soon find drinks from the shuttered experience at Disneyland for a limited time. As announced today by Disneyland, a number of drinks from the Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser will make their Disney Park's debut at August Cantina during the season of the forest event from April 5th through June 2nd. I had to tell you guys something. Are you going today? Is that where you're going? What are you doing? I'm not going today, but I'm going on April

Don't say the day. You're going in April. I'm going in April. I was going in April. I just thought that thought. I'm going in April to the Disney after dark Star Wars night. Yes. Why does you tell us about this? How did you not tell us about this to me? Do you guys want to come? I do. Last year I was on Disneyland the day of. because I wanted to I like made the board right I didn't have tickets to the Star Wars night so like I was there at like five when those people started showing up and I was like oh it's Disneyland only at Disneyland yeah it's only at Disneyland oh I bet it looks so sick that's literally the thing I said was I bet it would be so sick at night there's a special like spire uh fireworks show oh yeah they announced that they're doing that this year yeah I don't think the timing sucks so bad. The new star tours, the new star tours.

Oh, that's right. Adventures are going to be in rotation. Sure. You can go see the Andor and Osca stuff, right? Yeah, Andor, Asoka and Mandalorian. I do have tons of flight credits from various canceled trips from the end of last year. It's so much cheaper to fly to Los Angeles and stay somewhere and go for a day to Disney than to like do a big Disney vacation, which we all.

all learned last year. This is, you know, the ticket prices of this are expensive. It's $159, which sucks. But, like, that's way better than what we fucking... It's not $5,000. It was so nightmarish last year. It was ridiculous. This is totally reasonable.

It was not reasonable. But it's like, it's a thing you could save up for and, like, make that a thing that you want to do. I totally get that. Yeah. However. I think I don't know what the... I think the...

I've never done one of the after dark nights. Yeah. My understanding is that it's a lot of, like, photo opportunities, which I'm not, like, I'm not going to wait in line for hours to, like, take a photo. I'm just not, I will just walk by and take a photo of the thing and keep walking. So, but it should be. But you should get one of these drinks. Yeah, they do, like, exclusive snacks and merch and stuff. My plan is to stay overnight at Disney.

that and then probably go back to Disney the next day just for fun because it doesn't come with a full day, yeah, it doesn't come with a full day ticket, only comes with like an after 3 p.m. ticket. I see, I see, I see. Makes sense. So, yeah,

makes sense. Damn. So yeah, I'm doing that. I'm going, I'm reliving the dream. You can get the Do I get the one? It's not on the list. I looked for it. Well, yeah, what's, what's, is the

The Dagabas Swamp Water? It's not. This is Oga's obsession. The fiery Mustafarian, which I think someone got. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got that.

The lava syrup one, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Silver C. Martini. Which actually sounds not like a martini to me at all. This is, I'm going to read this out loud, and this is like the most.

This is what it was like to get drinks at Disney. Hendrix gin, Minut Made Lemonade, ginger syrup, honey, and mint syrup topped with a shimmery butterfly pea flower tea, which I bet tastes like sugar. It's very funny to do Hendricks gin and then Minutemate Lemonade is so funny. I was about to say using Hendricks and just even putting Minutemate Made Lemonade right after is so funny. It's wild.

Chalice, Hendrix gin, Minutemade Lemonade. This is the same drink. Oh, but it's in a wine, it's in a souvenir wine glass. That's weird. And then and then the Mustafarian, but in a chandrillan oil. Orb glass where you keep, that's what you got, Allie. Do you still have that glass? I do, yeah. There's a plant in it. That's right back then.

Aw. That's fun. So these are, there's not that many. You all got the nicillin. Oga's obsession. Oga's obsession is Minutemade Laverdain. Wild strawberry flavor,

yogurt-filled boba and strawberry grape candy pebbles with a bursting dried fruit mixture. I feel like we're wondering a lot of the oga with this recipe. This is my obsession. one minute made lemonade strawberry flavor yogurt filled boba I mean

I love the yogurt filled boba so whimsical that sounds weird I'm a boba fan but I don't know yeah I don't it's just it's just the thing it's all too too much for me generally speaking

is what I will say the the one that smacks is the fuzzy Tom Tom which has like that um it has like that peppercorn foam on it so it makes your lips numb while you drink it that that that one's good and the Jedi mind trick is all right yeah so everything i like him this episode i find kind of funny is as kane and ezra are flying off to lowthal and can't's like no i i don't understand what you're going through ezra you know my master you know i didn't

have i didn't know my parents i just had my master but as he's doing that line reading I swear to God he's doing Vin Diesel in Fast and the Furious I swear to God it's like the same I was like

he doesn't usually drop into this lower register I know it's like somber talk but also it's so much ums like telling of the story of his father's death uh in the first movie like it's getting kind of rumbling and choked up

it's very funny I did not pick that up but I can imagine it and that's like you know neither did any of the other Jedi my man that's the Jedi

Jedi didn't get to know their parents yeah that's true perhaps there's something wrong with that that's part of the thing that I'd love to see the show get to too is like I want to hear Canaan and Asoka talk

about the Jedi at some point you know yeah I think that there is something you know episode of the week structure. We've talked about it. I don't want to just hit those notes again.

But I think we didn't say explicitly was like part of what the arc structure of Clone Wars got us was the ability for an arc to have up and down beats in terms of action content versus tension content and arguments and drama. You know, every Clone Wars episode probably had a lightsaber drone at some point or a droid get into some hijinks or some. But there were the fact that you could do three episodes on a single topic, you know, even though they were often self-contained meant that you could have the one that was like the war episode and then a different one that was like two characters lost behind enemy lines or trapped in a small space and like arguing for 21 minutes or for 18 of 21 minutes and then they get saved in the final three minutes, right? And I think we, it feels like we lose that here a little bit because every episode so far has felt like it needs a six minute action beat somewhere in the start or the end, if not multiple times throughout. And it's not like, it's funny because it's like they're both cartoons for children. But you can kind of feel a shift in, that's why I'm kind of putting it up to the structure of arcs versus what-offs is that like the arcs would open that up. But I don't know. I'd just love to see a few more quieter episodes.

But certain beats have to happen in the 23-minute runtime that like Clone Wars, sometimes for ill, would just be like, what if we don't have a beat where you think a beat should be? And that didn't always pan out. And it didn't always pan out. But you at least have that feeling of like, I think we talked about this with Clone Wars before, that, you know, if you watch, I would talk about O.G. Gundam again here, like every Gundam episode had a fight in it because they were trying to move product. They're trying to sell toys of the Gundam. And this was before gunplow. This was before models blew up and it became even more central. This was just like regular-ass toys.

But you needed that, right? That was part of the scheme was we were going to put fights in every episode because we were trying to move merchandise. And children's action shows generally have that as like a thing that you can count on. Every episode of it is going to have someone pull out the sword or the gun or whatever it is. And I don't, you know, I know what we're here for. We're here for this kind of sci-fi genre action adventure show. I'm not complaining about it in general. But I do think that the structure of arcs, the lack thereof now,

means we get it every fucking time. And it can be a little tiring. It's kind of a nerd beats like the chase through loathal again, which like having them revisit the city and seeing like the devastation that's been inflected since they went there and the fact that like kind of in a fit of peak, the Imperials level to his family home. Like all that's cool. and then it's, ooh, that

that little fuzzy friend just scamper it away with our lead. It is funny that, you know, no, Kainan, I can't track the Lock Cat using the force. I put a tracker on him. That's a good bit. That is funny.

Especially the way, the way he came, it's like, damn, we have a Jedi master here. Look at this. Look at this kid. Oh, it's so funny. But, yeah, the chase, the chase is kind of dull, but it does get us to where we want to go.

which is Ezra taking that leap of faith as they're being held at bay by the sniper and just saying I'm his parents' names, the Bridgers, a frame and mirror mirror, mirror, mirror, I forget. Sorry.

They're dead. Sorry to that man. We're not going to talk to them every end. Yeah, the point is, yeah. And then it's Clancy Brown explaining that he did know them. Funny detail here. This guy's the ex-governor. Yeah.

He was a supporter of the Bridgers. Yeah. Shout out. Maybe not enough. Well, I mean, he got put in jail too. Yeah, he was the last governor of the place before the Empire brought the hammer down, I guess. Yeah. Okay.

But, yeah. Yeah. Talks about how. We didn't see a body, though, is what I'm saying. I mean, that is true. That is true. I had the same thought of like, oh, boy. Are they going to really secretly be alive out there? We never saw the body. This guy just

told us this. Can we trust this guy? Is this going to be what the rest of the show is, etc? I like that they're dead. Yeah. Same. I would like this to just be over. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Uh-huh. I do know. And I would like the rest of the series to be just like, oh, his parents are dead and he's, that's fine. Like, that's part of who, that's part of who he is, but it's not like we need. We don't need that mystery. That doesn't, that doesn't, need to be a motivating we've like it's just there no I'm glad sorry to those people I'm glad they're dead um they could have been alive if they were alive I'd been happy with that if they met if it was like oh they're alive and they're and he's gotten them somewhere safe or with their

characters there's not McGuffin out there like that's a molder sister that's like someday I'm to get the story of what like no one cares anymore no one cares anymore right unless it's done in like how and or sister like in that way is interesting except that like it's not like you know but that's because there's like 12 episodes of and or so far right and we have another like 30 something of this show yeah yeah but we don't need another bait and switch after there was already like a season cliffhanger right what's the fate of the bridgers situation and and yeah that is already

who is Luke's father is already that's you know what I mean we don't need another another one of these mysteries about where the parents are who the parents are you know yeah I guess that's kind of yeah yeah yeah god do you think this

uh oh Austin's had a horrible thought I'm scared I'm scared I'm scared you think acolyte is going to confirm some shit about Anakin that Anakin is some like Sith magic Benegeserate bullshit Benegesirate bullshit

Bleeding magic thing Anakin doesn't have a father right we all know this Anakin doesn't Anakin doesn't have a father And you think if they can resist Yeah That's not what the American Conception is

But it's fine I thought you were Catholic But it's fine I'll give you the Mary was born without sin That's the Immaculate Conception Oh It's fine

Don't worry about it Sorry I'm sorry No you're good I get how you get that Frankenstein Monson is Jesus. Yeah. Anyway.

I apologize. Listen. You know, I'm not there either anymore, but I am a world-class pedant. So I am going to correct you on it because I'm an asshole. The point is, what if they do? What if that's what Acolyte's big turn ends up being? Where it's like a long game to put Anakin into the world. via some distant past Sith.

No. This is what I'm saying. I don't want to. Evil. Evil. Avert. I get it. Yeah.

Casting it out. Casting it out. I appreciate it out. But I had to say it out loud because it hit me. Like the dream that Ezra has at the beginning of this episode. Because I was thinking like, if we're talking about like, we talk about like, oh, could plagies be there or could so and so be there? You know, if someone says the words like, no one's going to say the words, there are ways to

Deuce Conception, but like, you know, I don't think whoever owns Star, I don't think Disney, but also whoever in the future own Star Wars for all time, will be able to resist the idea of filling in the blank of who was Anakin Skywalker's father and or was it a Sith maneuver, manipulation. No more family. No more. No more. No more. You can't add. No more families. No more adding. No, just no more adding to the Skywalker family. No one else can be in that family. It's closed. It's no more. No applications done. No. Anything that you try to imply about Anakin, you then have to imply about Luke and Leia.

Yeah. And I understand that they were very much disrespected the Obi-Wan show. So, you know, everything's fair game, I suppose. But, come on, you can't do that. You just can't do that. Don't do that. No. They won't do it.

They won't do it. They might. They could. But the point is, yeah. So, like, they died under mysterious circumstances. They were just like, they, they went back to save more people and they didn't, they didn't make it, son. And so that's, that's what we know about the, the Bridgers. Something did hit me, awesome, especially when you're talking about, like, the possibly that Ezra could go bad. That shot of him looking out at the twin moons of Lothol. Yeah. Like the inversion of. I know. Luke. He's born on the same day. Uh-huh. He's born, again, this is only for a Rebels recon. He's born like two days later, but it's not, they're, they're very similar. He's just a little younger than the twins.

But he's born on the day the empire declared. Correct. Yes. And he, you know, we've got the, yeah, just the fact that, you know, he's born on a planet with the, you know, the imperial occupation, outer rim, two twin moons, by an moon's yeah yeah and suddenly it is like is this gonna is he gonna be the version who goes bad at some point this is going to go horribly wrong uh this is like a could all the all the pieces are lined up this could have been a luke skywalker but no i think my gut is no because i think we would see a bunch of darks i like i think we would have by osmosis gotten a lot of like frankly

we would have gotten a lot of like 20 year old hot evil Ezra fan art in our lives by now. We would have seen that by... It's true. Like, there's a lot of fan art of, like, hot Anakin. Evil hot Anakin out there. This is the truth. This is the truth.

I'm aware. I'm aware. I know. I know. But I don't think we get that with Ezra. I... Which is not textual, right? It could be that he becomes evil and it's boring and no one cares.

And so there's not... That's sort of like secondary people. Someone always cares about this. Someone's always like, oh, but he's so, he's so damaged. Right, exactly. A hundred percent. I don't know who would say that personally. I don't know anybody who would.

That would be an attractive thing for. I don't know anybody. My name, certainly. But I do think it would. What did you just pull up? Sorry, is that your background? Is that your evil antichist iPhone background? God damn it.

That's a really good art. He's crying. Can you send that to me so I can. put it in the in the uh show notes? Oh my god. I need that for the show notes. Please. Thank you. Uh, yeah, I'm sure it's for the show notes.

Damn, got me. I'm finding it. Um, you can take your time. You don't have to, you know. It's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's quick to grab. I have it in a safe, safe, safe, a link to it in a safe place. You got like a folder with other images? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good that's good to have. Uh, uh, throw away thing. Did anybody notice... Or Grogu looking horrified in the background of Natalie's shot.

Oh, no. Grogu, avert your gaze. Did you all notice Ryder Azadi's gun is a modified version of one we've seen before? It looks like Kalashnikov. Well, do you remember somebody else had a Klaznikov? You can get there. I believe in you. Fuck, hold on.

Uh-huh. Oh, Rob is going into the mine palace. I believe you can get here. Who is the most likely person in Star Wars to just have an AK? Oh, we've noted this before. No, more likely than Honda. Who's the realist? Can't, no.

I was about to say, I mean, Art two would. No, I'm not going to get it. Cadbane? No, Cadbane's a good, good, but Cadvane's too cowboy-coded, you know? it's saw in stela Guerrera oh yeah so that was my first guess I couldn't remember if the

if Anderon had them running around with AKs with AKs yeah it's specifically the gun that that she has that Staela has with like the sniper scope and all that so that's a good sign

you know but I still don't know whether I don't have to trust this guys I guess face is weird a little it's like tall and like big so it'll grow on me I'm sure but

I was not getting a returning character from this guy I believe this is a returning character Wow okay Yeah Why not join the rebellion? Right? He's already seems like, you know Yeah, Lothal is no longer under blockade

Right, which is the other thing we kind of move past is The fleet that comes for them on their second base Is the fleet that was at Lothal Which hits one other big note here, right? Which is they do not have a real base What they have is We'll be on a planet with a second base civilian population for a little while, and then the Imperals will show up, make life health

for the locals, and we'll have to leave. And that is not a good way to do this. A thing that someone noted in one of the rebels recons this week was, hey, you might note that by the time we get to the original trilogy, the rebels are on places like Gavin For and Hoth, which do not have civilian populations. This is part of why, is that they learn that their presence is a curse, right um that they they cannot safely fight for people from where people live and so they they there's a purposeful decision to change that right um so we'll continue and that's what this whole this whole season has been them being like we need a base we need a base and so i suspect that will be the back half and that base's name will be yavin maybe right yeah i'm not sure because i don't know if they'll

be there this early yet maybe they will find out um um I'd like the final scene with his parents. It's sweet. The sort of send-off, you know, the vision of his parents and the letting go. Yeah. Cool to see the city before the Imperials came and transformed. It's so pretty. And we do get another, we get a shot earlier this episode of what the city looks like now

when they first kind of arrive to Lothal, which is like, like you said earlier, kind of low domes, lots of stubby buildings. You know, there's maybe one tall tower left, but before it was this kind of gleaming city on the hill, like not literally on a hill, it's actually near a bay. But big, like you said, Wizard of Oz style towers, you know, so tall that some of them reach off the screen. You know, they reach past the top of the shot composition. It's really beautiful. And that ain't it anymore. And it was really fun to see that. And, you know, we end the episode with him sort of along with Canaan. Oh, important moment. He gets to hug Canaan. Canaan, when he learns about the death

For sure, we get them hugging. And I think let Jedi hug, it's important. Let them hug. It's good for them. Yeah. Star Wars Rebels. Are we going to three episodes next time? Sure.

I think three, three, two makes sense. Yeah, I think that's what we can do. So that is a princess on Lothal, the protector of Concord Dawn. and legends of the LaSotte. The Protector of Concord Dawn, you say. We know that phrase, right? We know Concord Dawn.

Concord, yeah, it's a moon of Mandelaar, right? That's right. That's just something I know. That's an error knowledge that I had. Damn. Well, we know it from one previous thing, which is it came up in the box. I think it's tied to the fake identity that Obi-Wan takes when he's undercover in the Cube episode.

He's like, his thing is he says he's like a bounty hunter, Rayco Hardeen specifically. You remember Raygo Hardin? Yes, was the marksman of Concord Dawn, the Mandalorian moon or planet or whatever. So yeah. Was that also the planet that all of the evil, violent Mandalores got pushed to? We thought to that, but I think that is not the case.

the Death Watch. I don't believe that that was, we thought that at the time, but I think we were wrong about that. So, yeah, those are the three. Princess on Lothal. I wonder who that princess could be. Protector of Concord Dawn

and then Legends of the LaSotte. So finally, you know, we've been talking a lot of shit about not getting good Sabine episodes, not getting good Hara episodes. No one said we're not getting enough Zeb, but I guess we're finally going to get a Zeb episode with Legends of LaSotte.

I included him when I said that he doesn't get enough what he's, his stuff is more about, you know, serving the Republic. I'm just trying to try a day. I thought she turned into a loath cat, honestly. I want one. They're cute. They're cute. They're so cute. I miss the figure that lady had when we were the halcyon.

Do you remember that? She had like a loath cat toy. Oh, yeah. Damn. Well, we're going to three. And with that, we've reached the end of another episode. I'll just say this. Zeb has a lane.

It's dirtbag uncle. And I think he's been operating really well in that lane. And I think that's why maybe we haven't been, I don't feel like he's been neglected because he's just like such an integral part of the energy of the show every week. But it's not like it doesn't feel like they're trying to figure out what to do with Zeb. They know exactly what to do is that. Yeah.

Now, what they've done with Zeb, maybe he doesn't entirely feel like I can easily imagine him in a story where it's like, let's dig into that genocide, huh? That feels like the bit we had that laugh line in the episodes last time. I can't die this way. I'm the last of my kind as he's Winnie the Poohd in an air duct. You know, good stuff, bit odd. But anyway, we'll see how, we'll see how Zeb's big day out goes. next time on a more civilized age. Our show is produced by Ricardo Contreras

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