A More Civilized Age: A Star Wars Podcast - Bonus: The Kaiburr Conspiracy (feat. Keith J. Carberry)

Episode Date: July 2, 2022

A quick note: This ep contains very minor spoilers for Season 5 Episode 7. As we said in the last few episodes, because of travel and other delays, we're not quite ready to jump into Season 5 headfirst yet. But tonight, we saw an opportunity to keep the feed moving, and we took that opportunity by the horns. Noted Star Wars fan Keith J. Carberry (of Run Button and Friends at the Table) joins Austin to talk about his ongoing crusade on Wookiepedia. And hey, before we begin, close your eyes and answer a simple question: In the Legends continuity, what's the name of the gem that a Jedi or Sith puts into their Lightsaber? While we have your attention, two quick announcements you may have missed. First: We just released a special bonus for backers over on our Patreon! If you've ever wanted to see us play Fantasy Flight Game's OUTER RIM together IN PERSON, well, here's your chance.  Second: Our sister show, the aforementioned Friends at the Table, is doing a two day fundraising stream for the National Network of Abortion Funds. We'd really appreciate it if you tuned in and supported this cause that means so much to all of us. It'll be on Sunday the 3rd and Monday the 4th from 12PM - 8PM EST. Details are here, and you can watch live on Twitch. Thanks as always! Featuring Austin Walker (@austin_walker) and Natalie Watson (@nataliewatson) Produced by Austin Walker Music by Jack de Quidt (@notquitereal) Cover art by Xeecee (@xeeceevevo)  

Hello and welcome to an unannounced, very quick, mini episode of a more civilized age. This isn't real, but the feed was going to be dry for another 20 days as it currently stands. And I didn't want that to happen. And also, I stumbled into a friend of mine, a ongoing, a ongoing. going crusade that I thought maybe y'all would want to hear about. I'm obviously Austin Walker, joining me for this brief mini-episode. Is Keith J. Carberry? Keith, do you want to introduce yourself to people who don't know who you are?

Yeah, sure. My name is Keith J. Carberry. I do Friends at the Table with Austin. I also have a let's-play channel called Run Button at YouTube.com slash run button, where we play all kinds of games. And I'm also a longtime Star Wars guy. Yeah, that's true about you. A lot of, there's been a lot of run button, Star Wars content over the years.

You and I have talked about Star Wars for as long as we've known each other. Yeah. I think one of my earliest running bits is me using the word verbobrain, because you mentioned how interesting verbobrain is as a word for a droid memory core. Every once in a while, every once in a while, they'll throw out Verbo brain when they already had memory core. And it's so funny to me. Yeah. Uh-huh. Well, and I should know for people who don't know, again, Keith, Keith,

and I both do Friends at the Table. And actually, before we get into why I brought you on here, I'm going to use this opportunity to plug a stream that you and I are both going to be part of on the, what's the third and, no, the fourth and the fourth, no, the third and the fourth, that's right. The third and the fourth, July 3rd, July 4th, 2022. So that is this coming Sunday and Monday, Twitch.tv slash, is it just slash friends at the table or is it slash friends underscore table? I think it's Friends underscore table.

I'm going to double check our tweet to make sure it's no, it's friends at the table on, on Twitch. We are raising money for the National Network of Abortion Funds. It's going to be the noon until 8 p.m. Eastern on the third and the fourth. We're going to play video games, we're going to do some tabletop stuff. There's going to be a stretch goal for a more civilized age follow-on bonus thing. So, you know, come donate and you'll get even more Star Wars content from us. But for now, to be clear, it's 12 to 8 Eastern both days. Both days.

Yes, both days. July 3, July 4th, 12 to 8 p.m. Eastern standard time. Eastern daylight time? Eastern standard. We're standard currently. I just always say Eastern standard because people just know whatever time it is in Mexico. I've started just saying Eastern time or like E.T.

But like, I don't need to be. Come on. That's fine. People know. Anyway, here's what I saw from you. I saw a tweet from you. It said, I gave myself the horrible gift of editing out references to khyper crystals that somehow made their way into the legends tab of the wukipedia article

on lightsaber crystals what's going what's going on here you i got i got a rush of adrenaline just hearing those words back to me okay so if i go to wukipedia um here i'm here on canon yeah it's locked you'll see by the way it's they locked it on me they locked it on you they locked it on you Locked me out. A Khyber crystal, simply known as Khyber, also called a lightsaber crystal, the living crystal. You're on the, you're on the canon page. I'm going to need you to tab over to the legends page.

Okay. I mean, you can give him background, the background on the current canon. So this is the current canon. It's what I did. A Kiber Crystal, also called a lightsaber crystal, the living crystal, and known in ancient times as Kiber crystal, K-A-I-B-U-R versus the K-Y-B-E-R that we're more familiar with, was a rare force-attuned crystal that grew in nature and was found on scattered planets. across the galaxy. They're used by Jedi and the Sith and the construction of their

lightsabers. That's probably good enough. Legends. Clicking on legends here. This is where your problem, this is your beef. Yeah, huge beef. Multiple axes. Okay, I'm very excited. Lightaber crystals, also known as Khyber crystals, were a variety of crystals, gems, stones, or other objects that were used as the energy source of a lightsaber. This is wrong, is what you're saying. It's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong in a lot of. ways okay okay so here's the first thing isn't there's an emotional betrayal here this is totally this is totally be uh invent i've invented a slight here which is that when disney bought star wars there was like a big hubbub about the cannon and they're they're canceling the EU and

EU's fake now and they're destroying my childhood yada right you were big so people again people don't know you're big star wars Guy. This is a thing, and you're a Star Wars Expanded Universe person. Yes, books, games, lots of books, but a lot of books, big books. Yeah. And I was one of the the books are still there.

Like, this is nothing. Like, literally, actually nothing is happening people. The bad Watchman movie didn't take away your good Watchman graphic novel. Right. It's fine. Yeah. And so what sort of happened to me emotionally is that as they started retconning individual bits of the canon. I said, I was like, this is so unnecessary.

Why did you complicate this and make it so much worse and weird? Like, it was fine. Why did you change? There's a crystal in a cave or in a mine or under a rock. You pop into your lightsaber, zoom, and that your lightsaber goes. That's the lightsaber sound. Zoom. Yeah.

It was anything that could theoretically focus a plasma beam. Right. Could be a lightsaber crystal. Right, because this is, I know this obviously, from the Knights of the Old Republic games, or is it only a Cotaur 2 thing? It's both. It's both. Yeah. Okay, so you're like, Bondar and your Opelah and like, there's all, of course, obviously the crate, the crate dragon pearl was a pretty good one.

Yeah, the crate dragon pearl. I remember, right? So these, this stuff. Because those aren't hyper crystals. Those are just, yeah, sure. Right. Totally. Okay.

We're putting the cart before the horse, but a. Crate Dragon's pearl cannot be a kiber crystal. Yeah. It can be used as a lightsaber crystals. Right. But it physiologically is not a khyber crystal. Right. It's a pearl from a kate dragon.

So you can't say lightsaber crystals also known as khyber crystals because that's like saying sandwiches also known as ham sandwiches. Right. In this case, kiber crystal is. To extend this further, the Crate Dragon Pearl in this analogy is, in fact, a BLT. And you're saying a BLT is a ham sandwich. It's like it's not. It's a sandwich.

They can both be sandwiches. Yeah, exactly. All right. And so I understand that this is maybe the absolute pettiest little thing of all time. But as the new canon has like come into its own, Disney and the related Star Wars properties have only, dug their heels in and made Khyber a more and more important part. The lightsaber. I'm sorry, not Lysaber.

The Death Star uses Kiber Chris. So we actually just, this episode isn't out yet. But the next Q&A episode for AMCA, we talk about the fact that the Death Star uses it, that it comes from Elos. Elos, is that right? Elim. I think that's Elam. Elam.

Elos is a Mass Effect planet or something, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's a Mass Effect 2. Or that's the end of Mass Effect 1. anyway it's Elam and that's where Star Killer Base is they made it also that Star Killer Base

I don't know if you know that bit And this also ties into the very first like Disney Disney stepping its toes like into the canon outside of the mainline trilogy was with Rogue 1 and there was like the stuff of like

the Jedi and Jeddah and the temple. And the things that they're guarding there are like the Star Wars Monopoly on on Kiber Crystal. You mean the Jedi Monopoly? You said the Star Wars monopoly on

on Kiber Crystal as if they might get out of Star Wars and your other franchises. I'm trying to get out of Smash Brothers now. Everyone is here. Thanos snaps a Khyber Crystal into the gauntlet. We have to, We can't derail this, but the fact that you didn't know about Thanos's snap until this year remains my favorite.

I still don't really know what it means. I know that he snaps things in and out. I don't want to talk about it because I haven't seen those movies. I can't actually say, but I'm part of culture. You just osmicized it. And like here's a thing that I'll say out loud. I also, they got me, Disney got me in the sense that retroactively, I would, no, no, no, I would say. If you would ask to me, in legends, what goes in a lightsaber, I would say a khyber crystal.

And I'm wrong. You're right. They totally, like, memory hold the, this is why it bugs me that it's right there at the very beginning of the legends thing. Well, this is the thing that I think is so fascinating in terms of why this gets under your skin and other things. Yeah. Didn't. Because it's not that they change something going forward. A million other things don't bug me.

Totally. This isn't, this didn't change it going forward. This didn't only, if they had just said, oh, part of the new Disney canon is Khyber crystals all the lightsaber crystals come from this one planet these are very rare

they're a specific type of crystal Luke went to this one place to get it you'd be like where but what's happened here if they just said all the all the lightsaber crystals on Illam are called khyber crystals now totally or whatever I'm saying

I bet even if they had said we're changing it they're all called light in the new canon they're all called khyber crystals they're all khyber crystals there is no more opala you can no longer use a crate dragon pearl right in the new canon but what they've done is gone

back in time, they've gone into legends and said here in the old stuff, that's Khyber Crystals too. And that to me does feel distinct from just they've introduced a new stupid guy. And I don't know how this happened, but the transition from, and this is part of the, this is part of the argument that I've been having in my, I don't want to talk about it yet. On Wikipedia, me talking with this admin or whoever monitors these things about why this doesn't make sense and can't we just edit it to make it more clear and less confusing. So the thing, let's just look back on track for a second. The thing that has happened is you have been, you have gone to Wikipedia, given what you just told me, given everything you just said. Again, I'm wrong. I am wrong about, I would have been wrong if I had said in the legends canon, they are called khyber crystals. You're right. I recall now that that's not what they're called. Why isn't as simple as you go to the Wikipedia and you put in that they're not called that. It's a, it's a, anybody can edit it. Right. So every time I go to put it in, I tried one edit first that took out the, said the, the, the like, clause here that calls them khyber crystals. And I took out the, the, the, like, clause here that calls them khyber crystals. And I took out the,

the um the one source and one appearance out of about three dozen sources and appearances in which it is called khyber crystals in or they claim it's called khyber crystals uh in in the legends uh which is uh the an episode of clone wars um we've seen this episode okay so we've not seen this episode here on a more civilized age okay um is it true that they're called that in the episode if you check is true And it's all about that, but that episode came out after the Disney purchase. Oh, I see. It came out at the end of 2012.

Oh, interesting. And the only other source was a defunct Star Wars.com encyclopedia page that also is from after the Disney purchase. Anyway, they changed it back. I edited it. I made each time I edited it, I gave more ground and was more conciliatory in how it was phrased. Even one of them was like called Khyber crystals in the Clone Wars cartoon or whatever. And even that was removed, even though it's literally the only time it has ever called

that in Legends. And then WikiPages have like a talk page and I went in there and had a big long discussion about why it's like this. So the first thing that happens is I find an old. discussion about this in which some mod says or someone is like hey khyber crystals uh what level of canon is this or uh uh uh the legends page states that lightsaber crystals are were known as kiber crystals i know kiber crystals were a type of lightsaber crystals in legend canon which is also kind of not really true uh kiber spelled k i a b-U-r is a reference to splinter of the

minds of the which was not this it's not in the same canonical setting right right right But there's lots of references. They call lots of different things Khyber spelt like that. Gotcha. Just as a reference to Splinter of Remind's Eye. Kotor 2 has a K-A-I-B-U-R-R crystal that you can put in your lightsaber.

Gotcha. If you wanted to. And they're like, no, these two books that came out in 2014 and 2015, but are technically canon, are source books for Fantasy Flight RPGs. And they technically have, they have it listed as Khyber crystals.

Just in general When did those come out? Post Disney, but they are technically Legends canon. But then it doesn't matter if someone that follows me on Twitter looked in those books and it doesn't even say that in there.

What? Yeah. What did it say? One of them doesn't reference Khyber crystals at all other to say that you can put one in a holocron. Okay. And the other one has it as like a MacGuffin

in like an adventure module. Like, go recover the khyber or whatever, right? Yeah, exactly. But it's specifically mentions. Hmm. Right. It's not, it's not, it doesn't, it specifically doesn't call them. Lightsaber crystals.

Right. And, uh, this is, this is, shout us the sniper serpent. Sniper serpent has sent in a number of questions and, and notes on Mandalorians and stuff to, to, to this podcast before. So, so shout us to my crossover. Yes. Also Sniper serpent made, um, we, we, we, you and I have. played a game by sniper serpent before we played um their what is the name anomaly anomaly the um oh the uh what do you call it like sCP slash control style take on the quiet ear it's like

that's a little that's a little reductive to call it that but uh it's like a tarot-based game where you where you there's like a super a supernatural anomaly breaks out of a facility yeah you can find on itch on shoutouts anyway so yeah so it's not even in that book it's the age of age of rebellion age of rebellion and also this is also really realized something which is that I didn't really realize that there was still Star Wars stuff coming out now that is legends or post-Disney acquisition so this RPG is legends right even though it's post-Disney acquisition there's a few different categories of this the one category is on properties that predate the sale to Disney but are allowed to continue and I don't know but

if I had to guess I'd say that's probably what the fantasy flight thing is right and then the other thing is they like they started doing like they started re-releasing rewritten or re-released old legends content to be like this stuff is the legends of the star was universe did it happen we don't know right well I understand how legends is contextualized which is that like These are stories that get told in the world of Star Wars. Yeah, yeah. And so I kind of like that. But Disney started actively re-releasing stuff, like, with that as the theme.

Right. You can go on Amazon and you can search Star Wars Legends. That's interesting. And it'll just show you a bunch of things called, like, this is Star Wars Legends, Mandalorians. What are they up to? Right. So the other thing here is, like, I've been thinking about stuff like Coach. Don't go to Amazon, though.

No, that was hypothetical. No, but do go to Disney. Plus, watch. Fuck, it's bad. The thing I'm going to say is, like, that new Cotor remake is going to come out sometime in the next year or two, right? Yeah. Is that stuff going to be legends, or are they going to make it canon?

And if they make it canon, are they going to call them khyber crystals in that game, Keith? Well, they can't be kreberg crystals because khyber crystals are a totally different thing. Khyber crystals are living force crystals that decide whether they like you or hate you, and that's what determines what color they are. color they are and they're basically said they're basically uh oh what are the wisps the uh uh wisps from what yeah from star wars oh like force wisps oh the the wills you mean the wills right the wills they're basically crystal wills um that like live in a palace i'm sorry you know extremely light spoiler for season five uh wait is it in do they come around to this on in clone wars

finally? Yeah, yeah. The first episode that gets released after the purchase is this episode about how you get your Khyber crystal. And the wills are mentioned in it? Oh, sorry, no, this is, I'm analogizing. It's like, okay. These are living crystals that respond to your thoughts and your connection

to the force. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And they judge you. Yes, I got you. Yes, this makes lots of sense for lots of reasons that things I've been spoiled on that I didn't really get, yeah, this makes sense. I thought you were saying that there was a Clone Wars episode about The Whales

Which would have made my life And No, there's not That would be so funny Oh, wait, no, no, no There is some whales in the Clone Wars Oh, okay, okay I think I hope

Have you not finished Clone Wars? I thought you did finish it No, I, okay, so I got to, we're past the part of which I've seen now We are now, we are about to start season five Where are we? We are about to start season

I remember said chat, We're not live. That's not a thing I can do. I think we're, but we literally just finished the mall revival arc. Okay. So, yeah, the next, the next arc is, uh, the Anderan arc and then, oh, yeah. Okay.

So the episode you're talking about is a test of strength, which is like two AMCA episodes from here, basically. Uh, it is, it is, we will get there in the next month or two. Yeah. So, so we'll get to whatever this, this, I think that that's what that episode is. maybe I'm wrong, but, uh, uh, so yeah, we're, we're in the middle of season. We're just started season five, rather. Um, so that's as far as I've seen.

I've never finished it because I, but I've been spoiled on much of it is what I will say. You're about, you're about to get to this episode. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think it's episode seven of this season and it's right. It's like, again, we are literally one arc away from it. So the bummer is that there, there is a few things I like about the Khyber crystals. Like, I do like that there's a stated, you know, um, like, police monopoly on Kyber as

an element because the Jedi need it. Yeah. And then also, if you read some of the higher public stuff, they're super ostentatious with it. They have whole, they have whole like massive valleys full of statues of

Jedi carved out of Kiber. Like it's wild. These fucking guys. These fucking guys. Yeah, it's like, what is wrong with these people? Like, I do like that. stuff. No, that's great. So, wait, why not just become Khyber Pilled?

Why not just, like, why not be, okay, cool, this is a cool idea, and they're backporting it to legend. Because I've gotten six messages, and then you messaging me, not even including you, being like, are you sure it's not in Cotor? Are you sure that Khyber crystals aren't in the thing? And, like, that's what the Legends tab on Wikipedia is supposed to be. It's supposed to be a place for the pre-Disney history of what Star Wars was. And Disney has, like, somehow tricked people into thinking that khyber crystals were a thing, that they never were.

Right. Right. Well, this is the thing that is the problem with legend, with it being legends and to not pre-Disney, because what they want is to own legends, right? Yeah. Legends has to become a brand. Because, again, like, Cotor could really be, you know, one version of it is Cotor becomes canon, Revin becomes canon, all the shit that's in Cotor suddenly is canon. And that would be huge. You're saying they needed to align with the canon so that they can have a brand that isn't two legends.

Two legends, right? So that's one version of it. The second version is you can imagine they come out with Cotor as a remake and go like, and this is our first new full effort into enlivening the Legends timeline. We're really, legends is important to us as a franchise. Obviously, we love and care about the Canon. Obviously, we love the Skywalker saga. and we love all of the things we're doing with the High Republic.

But in legends, we can tell other types of stories. But that is its own in its own canonical timeline where everything is coherent and consistent. And also, not that far off from... And who doesn't love other types of stories? Everyone loves other types of stories. And so, like, I could imagine them wanting that to be... You know, it's useful for the word Khyber

to mean the same thing in both of those places. Yeah. Right? This is all conjecture. I don't fucking know what they're doing. But this is what's so confusing about having it in the Legends tab is that they never try to conflate it with the canon definition of legends. So you look at it and you go, oh, also it is Kyber crystals.

So I guess this has just always been the same. But if you read the text of it, it's just like, no, there's all of these different kinds of crystals and they're just like I guess also known as Khyber crystals. There are dozens on this list. Canobi's Legacy, that's a particular crystal, the rainbow gem, the Rubot. to the bond. Rainbow gems are funny if you want me to tell you about rainbow gems. Oh, no.

Tell me about rainbow gems. Rainbow gems are silicon-based life forms that live 10,000 years, and people like to put them in jewelry. And lightsabers? And lightsabers, yeah. They're a lot. Well, like, Khyber is alive, as I've learned moments ago. So Khyber is alive with the force.

It's alive the way bit of chlorians are alive. Rainbow gems are like a species. they have a princess they have a princess could I put the princess in line I think I'm wrong I think I'm wrong I think that there's a princess that had a rainbow gem okay but yeah they were in they were in the old

public and they were in like a young like a young reader series yeah that's makes sense but you can just put them in your in your lightsaber or your necklace yeah rainbow jams were not brilliant treasures but not actually gems silicon based life forms native to the planet Gallinor.

They matured only after thousands of years and the glow they produced was caused by their inner light. Despite their biologic nature, rainbow gems could be used as lightsaber crystals. Yeah, of course.

Yeah, great, good. So the point is, not chiber crystals. No, not mine from the planet Illam. Not at the heart of the Death Star, not where, not at the heart of the star-piled on Jeddah, being guarded by, you know,

warrior monks. By warrior monks, who also were not Jedi and not allowed to use them as Jedi as lightsaber crystals, right? Yeah. Star Wars. Star Wars. Well, I wish you good luck on this in this effort. Yeah, it is more serious than I, like, I do feel bad.

It does make me feel bad that it's, that people forget about lightsaber, or that, just that people don't want to remember about lightsaber crystals. But also, it doesn't matter. I don't actually, like, as much as I'm hung up on it, I'm also not hung up on it. It's, uh, I'm kidding on the square. Ah, I see. You're not, yeah, you're not mad. You're not. I'm not mad, but I'm mad. But you're a little mad. During this, I got a message being like, that can't be right. In Cotor, it definitely was. During this. I mean, and okay, here's a thing. As a, as a writer and a world builder, I think that that speaks to the strength

of the Khyber crystal as a unifying concept. Like, it does just burrow its way into the brain and take over all that space. I'm not, I'm not, I think that you're right. For me, the issue isn't even, they want it to go into the Legends timeline. It's, the fandom is not going to pivot quick enough to establish a third tab here that is stuff from before Disney bought it. Yeah. Legends is going to eventually change big time.

But I think it's, I think it's really tough to argue. And I know because they've ignored this argument every single time I brought it up on the Wikipedia talk page for lightsaber crystal slash legends. Uh-huh. They are regardless of their position in legends, not also known as Khyber crystals. Right. But what I'm saying is, Keith is all they have to do is put out one legend story or put out one story and say, this is a legend story, and in that story, they say, of course, everyone's always known that they're also called khyber crystals. And then they're called that in legends. And that's why I'm

saying we need a third tab. And then the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, even crate dragon pearls. And then, that's right. Even great dragon pearls. Yeah. Because the force works in mysterious ways. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But I'm not. Even great, even great dragon pearls is such a funny line for a paddawan to say. Oh. I'm a. I'm a one from one of the failed settlements on Tatooine. I also know about Great Dragons. Sorry, I'm now, I'm just looking at this talk page. Is this you at the end who says,

this is a different person. I see, well, I appreciate you having the patience you have, you've had for explaining this to me as you have. No, I was way rudeer. I was rude. They were rude first. They, they, I was like, hey, can we like take a look at this and can someone explain why this is like this?

It doesn't make a lot of sense. And they said, doesn't matter what you think. This wiki documents what the sources say. End of story. Whoa. And that's when I got my, well, actually, I have three paragraphs to say about this hat on.

Yeah, I said there needs to be attention paid to the legends page, inclusion of Kyber Crystal. The phrasing of also known as Khyber Crystal is false. No matter your position on whether Kyber crystals exist in legends, inclusion of the term is confusing and misleading. true and they said fuck you end of story well I hope that giving you this platform has helped your cause I hope so too yeah this is this is we're not doing journalism here I think I'm allowed to have a position and my position is

they're not khyber crystals they're just lightsaber crystals yeah and you know implications about information it's it's wide-reaching oh yeah in this age of misinformation politics In this age of misinformation politics Look how easy it is To get everyone to forget about Lightsaber crystals All some big company

Like Disney had to do with say Khyber Crystal and everyone said Yep that's my past now Yep My Verbo Brain rewrote My Verbo brain rewrote over Grey Dragon Pearls and it's all Illam

Khyber crystals all the way down So this is how democracy dies all right thank you so much for coming on keith where can people find you again uh you can find me on twitter at keith j carberry you've got the let's plays that i do at youtube dot com slash uh run button uh we are we've been doing uh metal gear solid games those let's plays are all really good for some reason because it's good because it's fun yeah yeah it was like all over everyone was saying it was the best game right right right yeah so i had never played them and uh Kylie, my cousin, she's played them, all.

And so it's our usual style of one of us knows a lot about the game and one of us knows nothing about the game. Yeah, very enjoyable. I've been having fun watching. Again, folks, you can, you can fall. Oh, and Uru, it's let's play history. It is. You are you, Uru, you are you. The multiplayer, the MMO sequel to Mist, y'all have also been streaming.

That has been very fun. Yeah. Again, just want to quickly plug the Friends of the Table a marathon fundraising stream. There we go for the National Network of Abortion Funds, which will be on Sunday and Monday, the 3rd and the 4th, from 12 to 8 p.m. Eastern. We are going to be on Twitch.tv.tv slash Friends at the table. And also, let me plug a more civilized age thing, which is we have a very special video on the AMCA Patreon right now, which is Natalie and Robber here in town

in New York, in New York City, in order to do some stuff, some Waypoint stuff and some other game stuff. And while they were here, we got together and played Star Wars Outer Rim, the Fantasy Flight board game. No mention, ooh, there may be a mention of Khyber crystals in that game.

Now that I think about it. I may have done a mission to, like, steal a Khyber diamond or some bullshit, or like, smuggle some Khyber crystals, or something. I was playing as Lando Calrissian. And so the video is a five-hour video of us playing that up on the Patreon. It's the same tier.

There's only one tier on the MCA. It's a $5 tier. So go check that out. There will also be another Q&A in that feed probably next week. Once I get a second to edit it after doing this big Friends of the Table stream this coming weekend. And then again, we'll probably be back in the main feed with a real episode around the 20th. So look forward to that. And hey, if you find yourself at Disney, you can go to the Khyber Crystal Workshop and buy a Khyber Blind Box to get a mysterious Khyber Crystal that you don't get to choose yourself and put it in the way overpriced lightsaber that sounds terrible.

Well, did you see, okay, well, we have to end this, but here we'll end on. Did you fucking see this tweet about the drink where they spelled the other way? Yes, the K-I-A-B-U-R-5,000 dollar like whiskey mixed drink. Yeah, that's in a, it's in a Camtono, one of those like unfolding box things, or like the unfolding like urn thing that's like all over the Mandalorian. Oh, like the plastial cylinders from Cotor. Yeah, well, and like it's it's from a scene in empire, I want to say, if someone like running around with one that looks really cheap in Empire, but then they're in they're all over Mandalorian. The drink is so small. The drink is so small.

It's a little cube. It's, I don't understand. I guess it's a cup. It's a cup. But it's nothing. $5,000. What are we doing? Two shots and like a bigger drink, one bigger drink for some reason?

Is it like, is it like, is this like gold flaked or some bullshit? Oh, it must be a floor where you refill like, okay, there's like a pitcher where you can refill your little cup. But it's still a very small amount of liquid. I would not call that a pitcher. I would call that a cup. And the rest of them are shot glass off. It's like what you have, you keep cream in, like at a diner. Yes, that's exactly what it is.

Like enough cream for one table. We should go to a diner. I know. We should always go to a diner. We should just drop down. I know we got the stream to do, but let's go to a diner. Yeah. There's good diners here.

There's not the best diners here, but there's pretty good diners. But there's good diners. Yeah. All right. That's stupid. And this. Thanks again, Keith. They can't get over the Khyber thing.

It's been, no one cares about Splinter of the Mind's eye. I don't care that it is a shockingly. good title. And when I think of that title, I really love it. I don't, I don't know why. That sounds like it's a splinter of the mind's eye. If you, if I didn't know that it was a Star Wars thing, I would assume that it was like, it sounds like Philip Kay Dick. I was going to say, it's like speculative fiction from the 60s and 70s. Like it's, it's, it's, it's Philip Hey Dick. It's Kurt Vonnegut. It's like that style of like, I think Philip K. Dick is probably more right, right? Like, it's like a little drugged out conspiracy, you know, I think it's like,

it's a splinter of the mind's eye is like you one day you go to you go to work and you meet another you who's already there you know or whatever conceptually the chiro crystal has become the splinter of my mind all right bye keith bye oh my god it was 35 minutes We're going to be. Thank you.