Adeptus Ridiculous - ALPHA LEGION: I AM ALPHARIUS, THIS IS A LIE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

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or in the description. That's ridiculous. Also, free shipping if you spend over 75 bucks in the U.S. Sorry British, but I was going to give you the discount, but only if you won your football game. Unfortunate. Damn, you're going to do them like that.

Dude, I could not give a shit about football. When your favorite hockey team loses, I'll make fun of you too. Oh. Everyone, I believe in prejudiced equality. Oh, my favorite hockey team already lost in the Stanley Cup finals, so. That's why you have to be a Raiders fan. How can you ever be disappointed? I actually, you say that, but I am a Raiders fan.

Are you constantly disappointed? Oh, absolutely. Well, then you never have to worry about it. That's the Rader way, really. That's how it goes, so. There's a lot of, Warhammer has a very large contingent of British fans, and so I like to make them angry about their football kicking. Ah, of course.

It's just, it's just enjoyable to me. Okay. It's because I'm a petulant man-child. Just call me Pertarabo. You're going to get so much hate for that, man. Whatever. It's not like, they can't bully Conrad anymore than they have. I would join in.

I would join in with you on the Percharabo stuff, but I don't know anything about him, so sorry. Well, let me tell you something else you don't know anything about. The Alpha Legion. Oh, does anybody know anything about the Alpha Legion? I do now. Hey. So, all right, the Alpha Legion, this has been a long time coming. Yep.

Okay. Okay, so the Alpha Legion, okay, so in order for preparation for this episode, I researched the Alpha Legion, and then I read Alfarious Head of the Hydra, the book. Right. Now, I cannot imagine anyone had a grasp on fucking anything Alpha Legion before this book came out. Because when I researched the Alpha Legion, I had no idea what the Alpha Legion. fuck was happening. Yep. I had no clue what was what.

I had no idea what in God's name, if they were loyalists, if they're not, if it was Opharius or if it was Omagon, if it was Pepe or if it was Sylvia. I had no idea what the fuck was going on. The book has helped me out immensely in the realm of the Primark. Okay. It did not help me out a whole lot with the Legion. Okay. The only thing I know about the Alpha Legion is everybody keeps making the meme,

I'm Alfarious, right? That's the only thing I know and that they might be not chaos and they might be sleeper cell agents, but that's a lot of rumor mill not really confirmed shenanigans. So, yeah. So there are a couple memes that Warham, Because Warhammer fans are literally, like, S-tier at beating dead horses. There's a couple memes that they are, they won't let die. Kriegs with shovels.

That's fair. Because, like, the new Krieg models got announced, and they don't have, like, they're not hanging in all those shovels. And, like, they don't fucking do that. It's a meme. Or Admec fucking Toasters. Is there meme? Or, and one of them is I Am Alpharius.

And that is okay. Because that is kind of the point. Okay. Okay. This is, this is the Primark episode on Alfarious. Okay. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about Alfarious.

I'm Alfarious. All right. So, I am Alfarious. Alfarious. The voice actor of the books at Alfarious, but regardless it works out. Okay. This is the 20th Legion, double X. Double X.

Double X. The first Legion was actually the Dark Angels, which are not chaos. Another dead meme that they won't let die. But you perpetrated even more with your lack of understanding. Yeah, I didn't know. I knew the Blood Angels were vampires. So I was like, oh, yeah, if a Blood Angel goes to chaos, it's a Dark Angel. I don't know.

Dark Angels. So, originally. Okay. I'm going to tell you, I'm just going to, if you were listening to this, don't comment before the episode's over. Oh, wow. Way to get everybody to comment before the episode is over.

Please don't do it. I'll make fun of your football team again. So, with Aferius, Horace was out doing shenanigans. He was out and about killing things. He was being, eventually, he was

forced to deal with an enemy fleet that had entered from some planet or whatever, right? Right. Big old enemy fleet. He engaged said enemy fleet. And then as he was engaging the enemy fleet, he ended up actually having an insurgent onto his ship, the vengeful spirit, right? Okay. This insurgent jumped into a ship, killed a couple people, and then started attacking his

Terminator bodyguard, and made his way all the way into the same throne room as Horace. Oh. But as he was fighting off his bodyguard, Horace yelled to like, cease. And then he looked at the person fighting him and immediately, because Primark, he's like, brother, like, we have finally found you. And it was Alfarious.

Okay. Alfarious is the last primark to be discovered. And so with Alfarious finally being found, in reality, Alfarious had actually, actually ended up kind of working his way out of his homeworld, creating his own fleet, getting his own group. And that fleet was actually going out like causing problems. And that's why Horace was sent to deal with them. And as Alfarious made his way of the flagship, they're like, wait a minute.

Yo, brother. Like, shit. Let's stop. No, we're shit. Let's stop. Hold up. You're the last guy. So Alferius was kind of just dropped into the world.

You know, he was just kind of there. He was arrived. and as Alfarious has like well once he was found he was everything that normal would happen he was given his own legion of course

the 28th Legion and the bigger and more interesting part about Alfarious is that he's actually a dual primark there's two of them there's Alfarious and then there's Omagon

Oh I didn't realize that was the thing that you could do they are twins oh and the picture shy posts to see there's a dude behind him oh yeah there is a dude behind him oh that's creepy like she posted that picture earlier and I didn't see the dude behind him

and now that I see it I'm like oh that's creepy it is often referred to the concept that their souls are actually like halved and so they're twins and so when they're united they're actually more like one prime arc They're normally referred to as Alferius Omegon.

Instead of just Alferius or Omega, they're Alferius Omega. So if you manage to corner Alfarious without Omega or whatever, would it be significantly easier to fight him than like another Primark? He's still pretty darn good, but the two of them together make for a very potent fighting force. Right. I mean, I don't know if Alfarious would be a. to 1V1 Russ or like the lion. But together, oh, I think absolutely,

because then it's basically two primarks. Sure, yeah. Alferius is a bit shorter. I think he's the smallest primark. He's a bit shorter than everyone else. He's still a primark. So what? He's only eight feet tall instead of 10?

Yeah, he's a little small. He's the smallest primark technically. But when given his legion and Alferius Omegon together, Omega was actually found by a world that had been taken over by a Xenos race called the sloth or the sloth, which are fucking disgusting. I had never heard them before, but they basically kind of like took him as like a, hey, what's this weird human thing? Puck, poke, poke, poke and like fuck with his head and stuff until he was eventually rescued by the emperor. Because, because, you know, he's like, ah, get the hands off of me for the Zeno scum. Sure.

And blast them. So the two of them are together. They have their group. They have their Legion, the 20th, the Alpha Legion. And the Alpha Legion specializes massively in all the underground shenanigans. Of course. We're talking assassinations, sleeper cells, sabotage, like, deconstruction of infrastructure, political plots, coups, espionage, all the secrets.

stuff. In fact, so much so that a lot of the Alpha Legion guys are actually a little bit taller. I think they're the tallest Marines. I think Salomoners are the biggest in general, but the Alpha Legion guys are a bit taller. And since Alfarious and stuff are a bit shorter, a lot of the times other Alpha Legion members will have their faces reconstructed to look like Alfarious and act on his behalf, which is why they're always saying, I am Alpharius. That's the meme. That's the meme. Okay.

They're like, oh, I'm going to destroy this base that the Alpha Legion are on. I heard Alfarious is there, and it was just some dude saying he was Alfarious. I mean, if you're a squad that's into like nefarious underground sort of espionage spy stuff, I mean, it kind of works. I mean, that's kind of probably what you want. I mean, it's also pretty decent fear tactic because everyone's like, oh my God, Alfarious destroyed, you know, two bases at the same time. He's so amazing.

Yeah, Alfarious was over there and Omegon was over there. But we're getting reports of Alpharius on the other side of the galaxy. It doesn't work. Often he'll go, they'll send somebody to do diplomacy as like a primark, but he's just a guy who looks like Alpharius, but no one knows because he's just still like Marines. So is the whole squadron like that, or is it just some of them reconstruct their family? I was going to say if you've got a whole legion and everybody looks like Alfarious, that's, that's some mind-fuckery when you're fighting anybody. Do you see the book cover that Shai posted up a few pictures?

You see how the dudes on his left and a writer are also bald and look like Alfarious? Oh my God, they do, don't they? I only took a passing glance at the cover and I didn't notice that. And, oh, God. The Spider-Man meme works so good here. It does. You're Alfarious. So with some time, the Alpha Legion was pretty late into the Great Crusade.

They helped and did the best they could. Normally by destabilizing governments and stuff prior because of their stupid, little mischievous espionage and stuff, which generally gave them a major discomfort with their other brothers. Like, Gilman did not like him. Because he's, who would have guessed? That Rogel Dorn really didn't like them because he can't read. I was going to say, what, can they read?

Are they educated? Are they literate? Mortarian. Mortarian also didn't like him. They all basically was like, these are dishonorable ways of warfare. Yeah. You know, like, if you're going to do this, you're going to do standard military practices. You're going to do real battles.

You're not going to destabilize the government and assassinate their high leaders. and all this stuff. Even though it's more efficient, it's not as honorable. Exactly. One time, Gilliman legitimately said that a operation

was a waste of the emperor's bolt shells. Oh, right? Drawn out waste of the bolt cells. The only person who was really down with this was Horace.

No kidding. He was so impressed. He was like, damn, that's badass. That's some cool shit. This is Nito. Good job.

Of course he would be. Of course. If anybody was going to be down with the efficient, dishonorable. Of course it would be Horace. Of course. Well, Horace was a pretty cool guy. Oh, that's true. This is before he was traitor.

Before he had like any of his crazy visions after he got stabbed, right? Okay. Considering that Horace was first to be found and Alfarious last, they kind of had a little bond, especially since he was the one who found him. Okay. So it's the first and the last prime mark. Okay. Yeah.

So soon, skipping ahead, the heresy begins, right? The heresy starts, the heresy begins, and then, done, done. And so it didn't take a ton to get the Alpha Legion onto Horace's side because of their growing friendship and because of how much everyone else didn't really like them. Yeah. That being said, something much more important happened during this period of time. It was this weird, visions are everywhere in the Horace heresy. But Alferius and Omegom were contacted him by members of a Zenos-led organization called the Cabal.

Oh, that's... This was, it's like, it's like multiple different Zenos and a human. This guy named John Grammaticus, who was basically like a perpetual, like Vulcan, couldn't die. Yeah, yeah. And they all were like a council of psychers or something of that nature and provided a two visions to him during this period of time where they said the first and the last Horace and Alpharius would be the biggest and most important people in this heresy. Okay. And they said that if the first vision, the first vision was that the Alpha Legion remained loyal to the emperor and fought against Horace, The emperor would win, but he would be gravely wounded and entombed into the golden throne.

And after 10,000 years, the Imperium of Man would be slowly faded to decay, and chaos would eventually kill them all. The second outcome was that the Alpha Legion would join Horace and fight with the emperor, or fight against the emperor, and the emperor would be killed. This would have all the traitor legions, and Horace becoming a demon prince of chaos. However, with this, Horace would go on a 100-year bloody rain, wiping out almost all of humanity, but therefore starving chaos. And then humanity would go extinct, but so would chaos. So according to those visions, right, if I'm repeating a little bit, so first vision is that Alpha Legion stays with the Emperor,

but emperor becomes corpse emperor yadity blotty blotidy second one is they join chaos and Horace wins goes on tyrannical rampage for 100 years starves chaos chaos dies right so on one hand

the first one sounds like where we're currently at if the Alpha Legion if the Alpha Legion help the emperor yeah that's that's the one that I was like wait I It's backwards right sounds like what actually happened

and I was under the assumption that the Alpha Legion was a traitor legion so if that vision is right then they didn't go traitor but they did go traitor so the visions were just wrong

or that is what gives weight to the concept that they fake went traitor and are actually loyalist so they're okay Okay, okay. That's kind of where I was...

Yeah, that's where the cogs were turning. I was like, I mean, I guess I've heard that meme before where they're like, potentially like a splinter cell and they're not actually chaos and they're just faking it because fuck you, traders, we gotcha. Right, and that's the question is like either the visions were wrong or they were actually pretending to be chaos and sabotaging from within. How often are these sort of psych, I don't want to say psych, how often are these visions wrong in 40K?

Because usually when they bring up a vision, if you fill out all the prerex for a vision, that shit happens, in 40K anyway. I haven't really heard too many instances of like psycher visions being like, oh, nope, they were just wrong. Nothing to worry about. It's more so the concept that the visions are, they are a future.

It is not every future. Okay. Like, it, it is a future. So they can be wrong almost every time, but often people attempting to make the future not happen cause the future to happen, you know? Okay. Like, I guess there's the option where like,

okay, hey, you got a vision that in 20 years, you will be a grand general. And if that guy just puts a bullet pistol to his head and blows himself up, that future isn't going to happen. It's true. but perhaps you know something happens here and there and then who knows yeah or just him knowing like that there's a vision where he becomes a general maybe that like kicks his kicks him into gear and if he had

never heard the vision he never tries to become one but now that he knows it he actively anyway yeah yeah that's the problem of prophecy you know as it's always here and up and down um so because of this they had big thinking on what was going to happen and they decided that they would rather they think the more noble thing to do was to kill chaos in its entire. I'm going to kill chaos. Oh, God. I'm so tired of that mean. Oh, my God.

I hate it. So they actually chose humanity extinction, chaos death, and joined up with Horace and the heresy. Now, and if they were being loyalist, man, were they still being really bad? They sabotaged the Raven Guard and their like genes. primark DNA to make new legionaries and gave it to the emperor's children. But they actually didn't give the emperor's children. They tricked them because they're Alpha Legion. They tried to blockade the white scars from figuring out what was going on

with a giant fleet battle, which didn't do particularly great. They went to deal with Lehman Rus and almost wiped out the space wolves at the Battle of the Alexis Nebula. But then the Dark Angels came and saved them because the Chaos can't get a win. Of course. It just so much shit happens. There was tons of battles in the heresy, but the big one is the battle of Pluto.

And this entire thing was that a bunch of sleeper cells have been kind of like planted in the soul system. And Pluto was a major base for communications during the Horace heresy. And so they really slowly, and I mean like engines on a minimal power went to the outskirts of the soul system. and then drifted towards Pluto over an entire year to quietly make their way to the planet without being detect him. Oh. And then started immediately dropping people and blast him.

Of course. And of course they're like, okay, destroy the entire astrophatic monitoring temple and therefore they go blind. You know, they won't be able to see all the people coming. Sure. Sound strategy. Sounds strategy.

But unfortunately, these dudes known as the Imperial Fists arrived in this in this fucking in this fucking spaceship called the phalanx which is a giga temple and literate phalanx

our good man illiterate rogledorn showed up oh rogledorn rogledorn arrived someone who in particular did not like alfarias and the two of them actually

went and uh... started fighting. They had their big Primark duel on Pluto. Um, and after a decent amount of fights between the, the terminators between the two of them, and Rogelorne's gigantic fuck-off chain sword called the Storm's Teeth. Oh shit. That is massive. Holy shit. That's a chain great sword. It's a, it's a chain car. It might as well be. That's a fucking Jesus.

It's a bladed conveyor belt. Yeah. Holy shit. Alfarious had his also this weapon called the pale spear. They were actually going at each other, and he was about to stab Dorn with it, but Dorn fucking just shoulder-decked the hell out of Alfarious, and then chain-sorted off both of his arms,

shanked him with his own spear, and then crashed down on his head with the chain sword. And our good man Alpharius died a crushing death. Oh boy, yeah he did Looking at this picture Of that fight and Rogel Dorn's shoulder charging Now I'm I'm a little I'm a little upset that I made the like the illiterate joke

Because he actually looks really dope He actually looks really cool Rogel Dorn looks cool He's just he's okay In the in the book I'll fart Ferris is like I don't like Rogel He never lies

How can I trust somebody who never lies? How can I trust somebody who never lie Oh, God, yeah. The Alpha Legion would probably hate everything he stands for. He's such... I saw a meme recently about that episode of The Office, where it's like, why are you the way that you are? Every time I try to do something fun or interesting,

you make it not that way. And it was, that was Rogel speaking to Curse. And I was like, the most unbelievable thing in this statement is that Rogel Doron want to do something fun. Oh. It doesn't involve building a freeway. But yeah, I'm just like, man, this guy looks so cool And like, everybody that knows anything about 40Ks

We're like, oh yeah, Rogaldorne is so cool And then I'm over here like, burr, burr, burr, I bet he's illiterate Like I'm such a jackass It's all right, the ultramarine fans don't forgive you either Oh, okay, well, fuck damn, like ultramarine fans Like I care what those plebs think Oh boy, the comments

In this battle, Alfarious is in fact very dead. No getting around this one. And this is Alfarious, Alfarious, so we're aware. Yeah, this isn't someone pretending to be him that had their face reconstructed, yeah. And so after that, naturally the Alpha Legion kind of sunk back. They didn't get that fight. And then everything past that is the Horace heresy. It ends.

We know how that goes. And it's all a complete fucking lie. Wait, what? What do you mean? It's all a lie. That, what, explain. Explain. Hey, what happened?

Hey, man. No, do, shy said, and we end the episode here. No, that cannot be where it ends. So, this is all established canon prior to the book. Oh, okay. Which is why I said for the people to hold their comments. Oh. So what happens?

Would you like to know the real story of Alpharius and Omagon? Yes. Yes, I do. All right. So what you're telling me is everything that we just talked about was like, oh, yeah, this is what we think we know about the Alpha Legion. But really, that was all just like a cover story for some other bullshit? This was all trickery and lies. Oh.

whole alpha legion. So Horace was not the first Primark found. Oh, really? Alpharius. The first memory he has is of a mixture of

colors that he could barely even perceive and the sound of talons scratching at a glass around him as he soared through the warp and demons were like trying to get to him. And he landed, at least what I believe the book told me properly.

I think this is correct, but I'm just making sure. On Earth, he showed up on Terra. And the emperor swiftly found him very, very quickly. Before the search for Horace even began, before the Thunder Warriors were even wiped out. Whoa. That is way before. Way before he was found. The first ever Primark was found far before Horace

and was kept a secret by everyone. In fact, the emperor barely even raised Alpharius and it was actually raised mainly by Malkador. Remember Malkador the Sigelite? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, was he like the, he was like a really good cyker, was always by the emperors, side?

Yeah, that's correct. Cool old man, got a robe. Kind of very subtle compared to the emperor. Yeah. Reading this book, I have confirmed that Nakador the Sigelite is sketchy as fuck.

No kidding. The advisor figure for a big leadership person is sketch. He is terrifying. It is ridiculous how strong of a

psycher this man. is, but he was mainly taught by Malkador. And Malkador was always there to help Alfarious grow his gift, quote unquote. Alfarious's gift was to block people out of his mind and to be perceived in a different way. So often, Alfarious would walk around and he would look like a normal person. He would not look giant. He would not exude this like Primark aura.

He would just be a guy. He was still there, but he had this kind of way to all, to have other people perceive him as different. Okay. So some real psych or bullshit. Well, he wasn't, well, I guess every primark is kind of a psycher. But more so just the concept that he was able to close off his mind from other people. Okay.

He and Makador played a game, I believe they call it Regicide, but I think it's basically just chess. It's their version of chess. I guess chess is regicide, isn't it? I suppose, whatever the refer the term. Yeah. But as they played back and forth, like, you know, he would win, they'd get close, and then Malcador would just annihilate him.

And then he'd be like, oh, Malcador, you're like, you're reading my mind. And he's like, I am. Oh, so often they would constantly work with each other so he could shut people out from his mind. Oh, okay. And so Malcador couldn't be able to read his mind anymore. So that's how to be a regicide. Exactly. And so eventually, you learn how to be better.

Regicide. And eventually, Alpharius was the best kept secret of the Imperium. Nobody knew a Primark had been found. This is pre-Great Crusade. This is pre-everything. And during this time, his entire job was to hone his ability at being stealthy. Is to walk around being completely like a normal menial, being unnoticed, completely being hidden from everybody.

Eventually, one of the tasks he did was the idea of pointing out defensive problems in the actual like Holy Terra, the palace, right? Yeah. So he went through this incredibly elaborate plan to do an assassination attempt on the emperor, right? Right. And so that involves him going with a gigantic, convoy of like mercenaries that are

that are basically like what's it called delivering stuff for the emperor and then him being one of the gunners him paying off some pilots to shoot at his convoy to he to blow he would shoot all three pilots out of the sky but they would blow up and he would fling himself

out of the gunner seat but then be on the on the truck still on the other side and then hide in the bottom of the truck until they got in there or until he got into the truck itself and then hide in one of the boxes and everyone else would assume he be dead

and then he would appear out of the box he would leave he ended up killing a custodian in the palace no small feet no he is a primark it's true that's true he took the custodian's armor

and weapon, he went to a gunnery platform, performed inspection, placed a little doodad on one of the guns, left, removed the custodian armor, and then went to the landing pad where the emperor was going to land with the custodian's guardian spear aimed at where the emperor was going to be standing.

Oh, boy. This... That was his elaborate fucking plan. That is a hell of a plan. And he was going to try. try to assassinate the emperor? The concept was to point out flaws in the security system. Oh, okay, got you, got you, got you.

So he wasn't actually going to kill the emperor. He was just like, hey, look where I got, and this is how I did it. And he was short the defenses. Yeah, he would have shot at the emperor, but it probably would have done Jack. That's true, he's the emperor. So it's more of just like a statement. Yeah. And this is back when the emperor was like at full power anyway, so.

Yeah. Good luck. So an interesting. thing was that he was like on a rooftop like a battlement really really hidden with his spear pointed down at the drop ship and the emperor walked out and met

up with like Malacodore who was there and then at a quick moment he was staring down at them Malcoador's head just snaps and stares him like right in the eyes. Oh like from super far away Malcador's like ticked blinks and just like

snaps his head all the way around and just stares at Alpharius. Ooh, that's a... Malkador's scary. He's so frightening. It was psychic power because he was hidden the whole time, but I guess he had this slight lapse in concentration. And Malkador was like,

well, warning, zip. Damn. Right though he noticed that it was less that, but also the thundering sound above his head as a custodian guardian spear shanked through the ceiling right where his head had been, to try to stab him in the face

and so he ended up ducking, getting away and dueling with the captain general of the custodians known as Constantine Valdor he was like the head honcho and eventually Malcador got them to stop but it was the concept where it's like I could have assassinated the emperor and Valdos like no you fucking couldn't have

I got you, you didn't get the chance I mean and then And then Alfarious was like, hey, look at this button. Click, click, click. And then the giant turret went to go face the emperor's ship. Oh, right, because he put little doo-dad on it. Yeah, it is like, ha, ha, I got it.

And Valador is like, we'll discuss your findings later. And so this is actually what the origin was to the custodian's blood games. Oh. Oh, I guess that. Of the custodians trying to get in and assassinating the emperor and then like doing these tests. Oh, right. I forgot that they did that.

Yeah, this is the origin. This is where it started from. Oh, that makes sense because someone infiltrated them and almost got to the emperor and of course they would want to make sure that never... That's okay. That clicks. I got you. The, particularly,

with all Aferius being Alfarious and doing all this stuff, he actually found the custodian guardian spear to be really handy and feel really good. So that's why his main weapon is a spear. Okay.

Makes sense. Hey, I like this weapon. This is nice. I'll take it. I thought you're just going to say, yeah, so he just took the custodian spear, and now he uses a custodian spear, and it's like, oh, sick.

No, Constantine Valder was not pleased that he killed one of his custodians. Oh, that's right. He did kill a custodian, didn't he? Yeah, he was. not pleased. You could have shown us the faults without killing one of my

because there's not a lot of custodians, right? Well, 10,000. And the grand scheme of 40K, that's not a ton. No, this is like pre, lots of stuff, so, eh. But. Still. Alferius was there when the Thunder Warriors were all killed.

He didn't take part of it, but he was there. He was like, oh, you know, Thunder Warriors, they're all dead. Well, fuck. But for a long time, Alferius was really there to hone his deception skills. And for the longest time, he was still

a secret. He was never announced. Even when they found Horace, and when they found the lion, they found all these people, he was still constantly in the shadows never being revealed. And he was off doing his own things. One time he spoke to the lion. The lion is the prime mark of the Dark Angels

if it didn't make that clear. Okay. Um, he spoke to the lion as one of his soldiers, as a dark angel soldier. Did he really? And the lion, yeah, he was just kind of talking to him about like a mission. And the lion was like, yes, yes, whatever, whatever. And he was a little suspicious, but that was it. Um, and Alfarious was like, huh, I'm doing, getting pretty good at this.

Yeah, you fooled a primark. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Especially the lion. He's not easily fooled. Yep. Oh, Lionel Johnson, right? He's a perceptive.

Yeah, Lionel Johnson, a perceptive asshole. So, though, With all the espionage and shenanigans Alfarius had, it was kind of nice to talk a little bit more about his personality. He's very nice. He understands the concept of morale, and he understands the concept of unquestionable, like, obedience, especially when it comes to secrets.

Of course. He's got a million secrets. Yep. So he's actually very kind to humans. he's kind to his other astardies often his astardies might be like are you sure about this lord and other you know

Primox would be like how do you fucking questioning me where for him he's like it's okay to express doubt because you know if I'm wrong I should know that I'm wrong you know he's he's a very reasonable guy he's very nice to people there's a particularly great moment in the middle of the book

where he's helping out a refugee camp or something from that people ran from an alien race, but they said they found this is when he was looking for his twin brother, Omega. And this was the lead he was following up. And he was speaking to this couple, this

couple of two ladies and a daughter. And they were like, hey, we saw this like great warrior fighting off the aliens when we were, when we evacuated. And he's like, oh, that's my lead, you know? So he eventually revealed himself as is himself, like the

Primark version of him. and the two would beys like freaked out and the daughter and like oh my god oh my god holy shit you look exactly like him yeah and all that stuff and eventually the refugee camp got assault him and the rest of them had to flee

and so he went to find them because originally he was going to have one of their librarians wipe the memory so that they wouldn't remember his face right because you don't want that yeah yeah but he went to go find them and rectify the problem him

himself. Okay. And, well, he's not a psycher. It's true, he's not. I don't know why this whole time, like, once you said, oh, yeah, he's searching for his brother, uh, Omega. Like, as soon as you said that, I was like, man, he's, that's probably the last prime mark that gets found, isn't it?

Like, okay, because like, uh, Alpharian would be the first one. And you got the Alpharius. Alfarious, whatever. You got the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. right? Yeah, you put in some pieces together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know that his flagship is called the Alpha. Is it really? Yeah, I'm going to name my flagship the Sigma. And you can have your flagship, the ligma. Oh, I was about to say

you should have, oh, you bitch, I was about to do that. I was about to, ah, your ship can be the Sugma. You know how Latar Sera-Sirin is like

fired the Ursula's. just hitting a giant red button in the middle of the shit that just says ligma balls the ligma claws Ligma claws Why the Ligma claws What are the Ligma claws What are the Ligma Clause? We're so dumb

I love it I remember in the book He had to go rectify the problem with the three of them who saw his face And I was like Oh shit this is interesting He's gonna murder the shit out of them Yeah. Or just erase their minds and turn them in.

He can erase their minds. Oh, his librarian was wounded. He wasn't around. Oh, okay. That was the plan. He had to go fix. It was him alone to go fix the problem. Oh.

Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I see. And I thought they were going to kill them, which I thought was surprising because technically, I guess in this book, that was like a lesbian couple with their daughter. and I was like, holy shit.

They just showed off like a lesbian relationship and a warhammer book and then Alpharis is like, shank! Yeah. And then kills their like six-year-old daughter. Oh. I thought that's the way they were going and I was like, that is incredibly dark. Super dark. But I guess fitting in terms of Warhammer

because, you know, LaMao civilians, Lowell said Carn the betrayer. But no, he actually recruited them onto a ship. Oh. It was like, hey, I need your loyalty. Either, like, die

or join my ship and be part of the Alpha Legion, like work in comms for my flagship or something. And they were like, yeah? Sure be it's death. Yeah, working on a Starreys vessel.

Are you kidding me? Under a Primark, like, yes. Of course. Why wouldn't we? Why would... It's an easy choice. It was actually... It was actually kind of nice.

It was kind of sweet. Because they give you a good, like, hour more into the book without knowing anything about them until he mentions them that they were now as come off of a situation. Like, oh, he didn't kill them. Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! It's a feel-good story in Warhammer. Let's go.

For once. For once. That being said, Alferius being so nice, I'll be also honest. I don't like him. Really? He's kind of a huge prick. He's, I have never. I don't think anyone besides

Rogel Doram has a like a superiority complex more than he does. Oh really? This, he is so smug about himself all the time. He constantly does

the, I could have easily bested him in battle. This isn't bragging. This is simply fact. Oh. He does that a lot. And he's because he's constantly hidden among other people's ranks and like

fooling other primarks he feels so fucking ahead of himself. Oh that's fair. He's got a gigantic ego and superiority complex while shaming other other primarks for their egos. It's quite hypocritical.

Yep. And it's a little aggravating. Yeah, I don't know why, but I just didn't think that Alphalpharian would be like Or Alfarious. I don't know why I keep fucking... I am Alfarious.

Alfarious, right, right, whatever. I don't know why. I didn't think he would be like that. I didn't think he would be so smug. You know, because he's always staying hidden. He didn't murder those two people and he let them be calm. He seemed like he'd be kind of a little more...

And he's all about morale and taking the advice of his troops. I just didn't think he'd be a smug bitch. That's why he is smug. because he's deemed himself better than all the other primarks because they don't do that. That's true.

That's true. I mean, he's probably one of the nicest primarks besides Vulcan in terms of how he treats civilians and other people. He does care. But he's still kind of a prick. I was going to say, it's not exactly a high bar we're setting either. Not entirely.

It's like, oh, he's not as good as Vulcan, but it beats the other people that just murder them without care. So, interestingly enough, they actually get a bead on Omagon, his twin brother on the planet that the two of them, the three of them were evacuated from. And what they do is they go to that planet, and they are immediately ambushed by the sloth. Let me, I don't think Shy has any pictures of the sloth. I hope it's what I think, and they're just like bipedal actual.

sloths that have big claws and they're just really slow but they're really tanky they're actually fucking horrifying oh god they're they're also known as maggot men oh no i hate it i i i hate i oh it's not that's i the carrion masters or the dream eaters uh um they are they are a an alien race they have been mentioned before and they're actually still around but they're not talked about or shown much um these things are actually

incredibly vile um they are just giant they're bipedal things full of maggots for hands and worms covering the face and they've got these other ones called like

constructs and a warrior constructs and they are giant floating contorting balls of flesh and they float around in the air in the air and then when they see you

they jut out giant spiked limbs and like giant metal spears from their body and open up huge like full teeth gaping maws and they skitter at you like the speed of a lion

whoa and they and they pull out like giant necroat like a necrotic laser beams from their, their mass to fire. And it like, it like burns through power armor.

It's like necron lasers. Whoa. And they've got, they got sorcerers, those, those dudes with the maggots, they've got sorcerers and giant spears. They,

they have no pain receptors. The way the guy, they actually, one of them, one V1, Dalfarius was like, grabbed both of his arms and started seeping acid

into his, like, gauntlets. Jesus. He was like Holding Alfarious down And the voice actually did a really good job with this He was because the thing spoke to him

And he had this very like Flesh thing I'll feast on your Kind of shit like that It was really nasty Those like three warrior constructs And one of those guys killed like Five fucking Astardis and like two Terminators

Okay that's That's a big deal These dudes are nuts They're fleet They had a fleet Like they're space faring Oh these maggot people are space faring Like what is they

What does their ship look like? I have no fucking idea But they consume and like Eat flesh and stuff They eat the dead there But they had a fleet And when Alferius's flagship arrived They were taking a beating

They had to retreat Because the fleet Like was battering their ship Holy Jesus These things are honestly like so incredibly disgusting the way they were described

and so incredibly disgusting to look at I hope we see more of them I was gonna say they sound like they'd make really dope minis Just a disgusting sloth army Also that picture you posted There's like a There's something on the dude's belt

That goes up to his face It's like a pipe that goes all the way up to his face Is that a, is that, like, is that how they survive? Is there something in there? Or is it never really described? It might be one of his sceptors. There's a couple different images of, of sloths and all. Some of them have like, ah, here we go.

I got some images for you, my friend. I got you, don't you worry. And it's also for shy to because I don't think she knows about this. Oh, God, put the mask back on. Oh, Jesus. There's that thing as well. There is a lot of these things, and they are just, they are just awful. Here's actually a good picture of the construct.

You might need to click on that one. Oh, no. Oh, God. That's awful. Oh, no. Oh, boy. One of those fucking things bit the head off of a space space. Marine with that maw.

Yeah, I don't doubt that. That's a... Not a fan. Very gross. Nope, that is... Oh, boy. They really should make minis out of those. Totally.

Yeah, they should. Oh, man. You could do the robed guy with his mask on and just have, like, his limbs be icky crawlers and stuff, too. Like that, oh, that'd be so cool. That'd be so cool. These are actually pretty dope. I wish they would do more. Yeah.

Anyway, this planet was being attacked by all these aliens, but Omega on was still supposed to be on this planet. In fact, the main dudes there with the scepters, they have like sorcery magic, like, like necrow magic. And so they eventually, pretty much all of Alferius's guys die. And besides him. And eventually, him alone finds Omagon. And Omagon is there in scaled up armor holding us giant spear. Kind of just like Alferius was.

Right. The difference is that he actually has this very fancy spear known as the Saracanata. It's also known as the pale spear, but it was known to possibly be a relic from the sloth. So that whole story about him being taken by the sloth and being mind-fucked and stuff, never happened. Oh, okay.

Never occurred. He just happened to land on a planet that had already been overran or killed by the sloth. And he had one of their weapons there. And eventually he hitchhiked off with a pirate vessel that came around. And he hitchhiked his way off of it into a different area. Okay. So he just kind of landed on like a dead world hunting and stuff.

But that pale spear kind of seemed like it would phase in and out of the material realm. And whatever it would slice, it would turn straight into like an oily black fog. which was actually something that the sloth were able to do in combat so it's like a relic sloth weapon perhaps or something of that's nature but eventually they meet up

oh my God we're finally together oh my God my soul feels like whole and they talked for a while and they came to the conclusion that the emperor probably didn't know about Omegam probably not

and the concept that actually in the warp they were split in two. Oh. So when they were pulled, that's why their soul always felt halved because they were actually duplicated into two separate primarks. Oh.

Which is probably why he's a little bit smaller. Yeah. You know, probably like all that stuff. So it's not necessarily that they're twins. It's literally like a duplication. of him that they were like duplicated in the warp and they were just that's their theory ah okay that's the theory that they that they said we don't fully know but that's their theory okay um so eventually they he tells him everything about what happened and all that and they eventually

had to fight their way through the sloth which was a lot easier not they were together because together they're just like a really good fighting force oh sure yeah because of course double primark um they eventually escaped through a shuttle craft and made their way back to their ship. And so then came the question of what the hell to do. Yeah. And so, and so they said, hey, why ever reveal Omagon? Oh.

Or in a sense, Oh. In a sense, why doesn't Omagon take it? the name Altharius. Oh, so Horace, Horace never met the real Alpharius. Or maybe he did it some other point, we don't know. The person who jumped onto the ship was actually Omagon. Oh, wow.

Who took the name Alpharius. Oh. Oh, that's some tricky shit. While all the other time, Alpharius pretended to be Omagon. Oh But And so Rogal Dorn

Did not kill Alfarious He killed Ombon Oh And it said that Gilliman Later on Actually killed Alfarious

But I don't believe that for a second Because it It barely has any Any like story to it And He says he killed Alfarious Like yeah Which

Yeah which one? Like, are you sure that you killed them? Also, that totally fucks with that prophecy, right? Because, uh, well, actually does it? Well, that's the, that's, that's the question. Cause, because, because then it would have been Omagon that was, or whatever, uh, joining Horace and that wasn't the first prime arc. That was like,

the, oh boy, that's a, that's a, that's a lot of, that's a, that's an M-night shamelon right there, dude. That's a, there's a, there's a, a, there's a lot of, lot of twists. Someone, some people think that Alfarious was like, maybe posing as Omega on was supposed to be more chaos related while Omega posing as Alfarious was supposed to do more loyalist stuff, or they had disagreements or neither of that, or maybe because Alfarious who was actually Omega was actually Alpharius, and while Omega who was actually Alfarious, you see why I was hesitant?

Yep, yep, I definitely see the sort of problems that would arise here. Yep. Yep. Okay. I saw one of my favorite comments about the book. I'm going to read you this comment. Okay. I still can't believe that canonically, Omagon took the name Alfarious,

while Alferius was the name Omegon, and then when Alferius, who was Omagon, was killed by Dorm, Omegon, who was actually Alfarious, renamed himself Alfarious in honor of Alfarious, who was actually Omagon. Oh, that's a lot. So when Alfarious, who was Omagon, died to Dorn, Omega, who was Alfarious the whole time,

renamed himself to Alfarious in memory of Alfarious, who was actually Omagon. Uh-huh, yeah. And you wonder why I wanted to wait on this. Oh, my God. So, so, so the Alpharious. Omegon is dead. Ophareus is alive.

Okay, cool. I was like, wait, so does that make Alfarious Omegan? Because he was, no. We think, we think, Omagon's dead. Yeah, that's, if, if, if Omega, was still, was still Alfarious and stayed as Alfarious the whole time, and they never swapped, which I'm goddamn certain they did. So on it, all I know is that one of them, one of the twin Primarks is dead. One of them is gone. It doesn't.

Does it really matter which one is surely not. They're twins. It's fine. The book literally opens with I am Alpharius. This is a lie. You told me about that and I was like, oh my God, that's perfect. The book ends with I am Alfarious. This is a lie when he was speaking to Horace.

Oh, boy, that is. Literally, literally in the book, they were talking about like Imperial records. Uh-huh. And he was talking about how records, records always tell the story of someone, and, you know, a lot of times Imperial records lie to make things work. Sure. And he was talking about the whole thing, because the book is told from a first person perspective. Yeah, yeah. And he, at the end of this whole monologue, he's like, but then again, this is my record, and all records lie. Oh, damn it. And so they even have a backout if they want to rec on everything. Oh, geez. I, I got to be honest with you. I, I, I, I got to be honest with you. I

feel more confused after learning everything than I did before we started. The Alpha Legion is so weird and wonky. And the prime, well, I guess just the primarks are just like, holy shit, what the fuck is going on? Hydrodominoids my dude.

Yeah. Hyder dominatis. Yeah, you cut off one head and another one grows back, right? Mm-hmm. That's why you could never kill Alpharhus, because we're all Alpharis.

Yeah, they all look like it. or at least a lot of them do? Is it, was it everybody, did you say? Or is it just a bunch of them that? A bunch. Okay. And some that are better at performing as if they were Alpharius than Alfarious.

Because don't forget, Alpharius Omagon can both do that thing where they can like kind of hide themselves. Oh, that's true. So even so. Oh, my God. Like, literally I have a bit of a headache trying to wrap my head around like Alfarious and Omagon. and like all the swapping and all the deception it's it's that's wild that's it's kind of cool though like how deceptive it is and how confusing it is and how just it is kind of it's it is kind of a neat like sort of mystery of like is it really alfarious did he really is the book accurate how much

did they funnel it and it's kind of cool actually so it's it gives them it it's it's In the beginning, it was needlessly complicated. It is better now. I'm a bit better with understanding it now. So long as everything that was said was correct. Yeah. The problem comes with everything after. Because the book ends with the meeting of Omagon,

who was pretending to be Alpharius with Horace, which in a sense does make them the first and the last. Because you are right, Omega was the last to be found. Yeah. Both in terms by Alpharius and by Horace. So in reality, that fleet that Horace was fighting was a fake fleet entirely meant to fabricate the lie that Omega made a fleet. Or actually, perpetuate the lie that Alpharius made a fleet. Because remember what you said that Omegon or Alfarious?

Fuck! Remember how we said that Alfarius had a fleet that Horace was sent to go deal with? Yeah. So that entire fleet was all a lie made up to make the original. discovery of Alpharius its own deal even though it was actually Omega not Alfarious

who was found on the planet below Oh boy That's a lot Oh boy Within plans within plans Within plans Oh my God Oh yeah

I forgot to mention One time he disabled The destabilized the planet's Political hierarchy And plunged them into civil war Uh huh And the group that rose up We're chanting blood for the blood god

so he accidentally caused a coronate cult Whoops All according to plan I meant to do that, it's fine right? You meant to do that It's a fairious, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah So in terms of game

Alpha Legion are a chaos space marine faction Okay You play them as chaos space marines They do not have rules for loyalists They are chaos space marines Okay Um, that being said, they have done a lot of shit that would peg them as chaos.

Mm-hmm. However, they have had groups of the Alpha Legion do stuff that was actually good and loyalist. Some would say that because they had such a surprisingly bad time holding off the white scars and weren't able to kill the space wolves, that was a sign of them holding back to, pretend like their chaos. Oh, right. Others would say that chaos just simply can't catch a break. Both are correct. That's also fair, yeah.

Both are also right. No matter what, their color scheme is really cool. Their armor is very cool, too, with the scales and everything. Their armor is badass. The hydra symbol is cool. Hydra dominatis is a pretty cool war cry. It's nowhere near as cool as Avae Dominus Knox Fuck you

But Is it possible that the The Alpha Legion is doing Is literally doing chaos and loyalist stuff Just to confuse everybody And they're not really specifically on one side They're just trying to be as deceptive as possible To fool chaos

And That was one concept where maybe one Primark is doing chaos stuff one Primark is doing loyalist stuff and perhaps the Alfarious who actually was Omega dying to Dorn perhaps was the loyalist stuff or they're both

doing both because nothing can be simple. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking like they do both because they're like well we want to be deceptive to everybody and we don't want chaos getting a beat on us but we don't want the Imperium to get a beat on us so let's just confuse everybody and

chaos and loyalist shit I honestly don't have an answer and I don't even think Alpha Legion players have one. Yeah, probably not. It's a, it's a, I don't think it's a question you could answer, right? It seems like the answer is just they're doing stuff. And honestly, if we did have an answer, it would really, like, ruin the fun. That's true.

Yeah, Shai said, like, if we had an answer, the Alpha Legion would be lame. And that's true, because then there'd be no deception. There'd be no question about it. You would just know that they're just being shit lords for the sake of, confusing both sides. So yeah, I guess the mystery is all, is what makes the Alpha Legion so fun. It is.

The color scheme and the mystery and the fact that the primark is two of them. Yeah. And of course the I'm Spartacus kind of Yeah, I'm Spartacus, I'm Alphariz. And I mean, hydra heads look fucking cool.

Oh yeah. And like we already said, the armor, super dope. Super dope. So, so I had to scramble through the first 25 minutes of lying in order to properly make the reveal

decent enough because if I don't do a little bit of that that it's not an Alpha Legion episode man I try my best

today that was fun like when when you were like oh yeah by the way that's all a lie and then you went silent

for like a minute I was I was foaming at the mouth to know what the fuck happened and what you were

talking about so I I was thoroughly engrossed in the Alpha Legion's deception and the Prime Works, obviously. I'm glad that you were. The Alpha Legion was a tricky one. Honestly, this is the episode.

If I didn't do a great job at it, I'm sure I'll hear about it. If I did, good. Now we can move on to important things. Yeah, like Latar Sarenab pictures. You've done your work my Thunder Warriors. Oh Alpha Legion Oh Alpha Legion All right

Legion Should I take us home Country Road Country Roads No no That wasn't an invite to sing That was on Twitter Oh

All right I got it Oh boy I'm asking Thank you very much for watching Listening whatever the fuck I don't know DK where can they find you I'm Alfair

and you can find me at DK. Diamante's everywhere, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, and YouTube. I can't believe you didn't. What is wrong? God damn it. All right, I'm Alferius. You can find me at Alferius at Alferius.com. DK. Or Alferius, where can they find you? No, leave it.

Shia, leave it. I was the top tier purveyor in 40K mimery this time for the end of this episode, and that's all you need to know. Or is it? Or is it? Dun, dun, done, done. All right. You can find Quiet Shy, who's actually D.K., who's actually Alfarious, who's actually Omegom. Over at Quite Schall, or also known as Quite Alfarious, opposing as Omega,

killed by Dorn. Dorn was never Dorn. Dorn was actually Omegom, who was Alfarious, killing Alfarious, who was Omagum. They had a brilliant rivalry. We're done. Learn to read.