Adeptus Ridiculous - ARKS OF OMEN & VASHTORR, NEW HEIR TO THE CHAOS THRONE | Warhammer 40k Lore

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:15 Welcome everyone to another episode of the Adeptus Ridiculous podcast. My name is D.K. DiMonti's. My co-host is Bricky, and he's going to be teaching us, I think, about some Eldar shenanigans and Warhammer 40K today. But before he does, if you enjoyed today's episode, heading over to patreon.com slash Adeptus Ridiculous and consider supporting us. You get access to the Discord. HD posters at the $15 tier.
Starting point is 00:00:39 How about that Slunerr poster, everybody? Anyway, patreon.com slash adeptus ridiculous. And Bricky has a few things to tell us today, doesn't he? I have more than I normally would like for major episodes, but we do want to go and hit with the sponsor real quick. So let's play the real hit it. Hi, I'm Bricky. I normally tell you about shaving your balls. Today, no longer.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 Thank you very much, everybody. I want to get through the merch stuff really fast because I don't want to overload the beginning. We do have two new merch things. One, if you like that slinoosh, you like the snake, you like the poster. You like the stuff. We're selling quite a few of those posters. If you want to grab them at Orchidate.com, they are, you know what they are. You can see it.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You see it there. You see what's happening. Wanted to get your live reaction to it, but sadly, it just didn't line up, did it? You know, you're throwing me a Femboy Snake, Full Grim poster. You know, I expected it to be way more cursed than it was. I'm actually kind of mad how tasteful it is. It's actually a really good piece of art. It is a great poster.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It kind of checks all the boxes. It's kind of tasteful. It could be kind of lewd depending on how you look at it. And it's just, it's lovely. I love it. It's great. Also, I wanted to give a shout out to one of our fans. A while back, one of our fans was in, I think it is the Air Force.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And they fly refueling missions as their main job. And they were asking. they were asking, hey, do you have any adeptus ridiculous flags at all to fly? And we originally didn't have any, but we decided to make one for them because apparently it's customary to fly certain flags on missions. No. So they actually, this one's upside down, I'm sorry. This is actually a picture they took and sent it to us at the merch store.
Starting point is 00:04:02 They're flying a Cadia Stan's Cadian flag for the, the refueling mission. That's them taking a picture of the flag. Oh, that's so cool. The jet being refueled. So, and they have a certificate that the flag has been flown, signed, and all, I didn't take a picture of that because I don't want to docks their names. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And it was a really, really awesome thing. And so I thought, you know what? Let's sell Adeptus Ridiculous Flags. Oh, hell yes. So also available at the merch store, we have Adeptus ridiculous flags, classic three by five feet. They are gigantic. There's a big old black flag with our logo.
Starting point is 00:04:43 It looks really cool. It looks like a pirate flag, but like, you know, adeptus ridiculous. It is all available as well in the merch store. If you'd like to check it out, throw it on your wall, fly it on your yard, whatever you feel like doing. If you do... Fly it on your refueling missions.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Fly it on your refueling missions. Throw it in your barracks if you're a, if you're currently enlisted. If you do, please send us pictures of it on Twitter or on Discord, we would absolutely adore seeing it. That is the coolest thing I've ever
Starting point is 00:05:14 heard. Oh, that is so rock star. I must admit, D.K., threw a lot of, a lot of emphasis in that almost would be sound like you were being sarcastic. No, I am genuinely so hype about that. Once you showed, I thought that picture
Starting point is 00:05:31 you said at first was like a painting, and then I was like, oh, that's real. that's that's so cool and that's the oh that's just mm-oh all right all right don't hurt yourself sorry i'm i'm old uh hype hype could you know break a hip so did i already tell you what this uh this episode is supposed to be about because i know we talked about a bit the last episode but i don't remember if i told you about this one i was under the impression that today was just going to be like last time it was like oh before we talk about the phoenix lords we have to talk about the aspect warriors and how the aspect warriors came into being and all that so i just figured
Starting point is 00:06:16 today was going to be more about describing and talking about all of the different phoenix lords in one episode well that was originally the plan if there was something else that i wanted to talk about didn't come up there is and so that will be our next episode This episode. Oh no, Ted already knows this. Ted's got this. Oh, okay. You gave them more notice than right now as a recording, huh?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Good, good good. Do you think Shy would not have a gun to my head right now if I was like, I've changed my mind on the episode? Again. By the way, Ted, good luck getting the thumbnail out in time. Good God. Again. But unfortunately for you, it doesn't mean you have to have a quote. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I almost spit out my coffee. The denizens of the warp are not our allies. They are not patrons to us, and they will never grant us the boons we seek. Their nature is the same as that of their duplicitous realm, perilous to credulous fools, but a potent resource for those with the willpower to take it without giving in return. My will has endured for 10,000 years, even in the face of the dark gods themselves,
Starting point is 00:07:38 and I am no fool. Hmm. This definitely seems... This has to be like some specific Eldar Dudemeister that... I... I... I don't... Nothing's coming to mind as to who this might be
Starting point is 00:08:02 other than it's probably some Eldar. that can use warp magic. All right, that's super wrong. Oh, shit. It's about taking the powers of chaos and not offering anything in return. So they are utilizing the powers of chaos. Okay, well, I didn't know. I figured this was a lead-up to the Phoenix Lord, so it had to be Eldar somehow.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I didn't think it was specifically about the first line. of the quote. All right. And what was this? My will has endured for 10,000 years. What happened 10,000 years ago? Stuff. The Horacee.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Good Lord, man. Good Lord, man. It's Abadon. It's Abadon. It's the big man. Why are we doing, we've done Abadon? Because we're doing the new Arks of Omen book. We're doing the new book.
Starting point is 00:09:04 How is Avedon? What? What? You've thrown me for a total loop here. All right, God, fucking. My mind was so completely set on something Eldar related. The Orks of Omen, the new book, Chapter 1. It's not even really about Avedon. It's about the new guy, Vastor.
Starting point is 00:09:27 But it's called Avedon. God damn it. I didn't even, I don't look up this stuff. I didn't know there was a new Avedon book. 40k quote fail laugh at this user That's not fair I was led to believe that today was going to be somehow related to Eldar, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:49 But then I told you it wasn't. Alright, never mind. Screw this stuff. You never told me that. Did you? Oh yeah, let's talk about Abby. We're talking about the arcs of omen. It's more about Vastor and the arcs of omen. But anyway, all right, it's a new book. It is a new book. It is continuing
Starting point is 00:10:03 more of the actual modern story of 40K. We are technically in the 41st millennium now, or 42nd millennium now, I believe, but screw it. We're still, we're in 40K, screw it. 40K, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 40K. So, this is a brand new book that came out that's offering a bit more of the gameplay and narrative changes, but also is in continuing the story. This is post-Falcadia. This is post the Great Rift. This is post-Pyriam Nylis.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And it starts, off with a forge world. Well, let me not have a forge world, but a mechanicus world, basically. Okay. And unfortunately, a servant, this world has a bunch of fancy-pancy deep vaults artifacts and things held by some inquisitors. And unfortunately, just pure chance, bad luck, warp, messing with stuff. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:11:01 A servitor breaks some stuff. and the extremely powerful anti-detection fields of the moon that it's on go down for about five minutes. And then the Black Legion in those five minutes senses this planet gets a readout and heads on towards it. And then they assault the world, kill a bunch of people, and a few of the dark Mechanicus thralls enslaved or, you know, more like just dark mechanicus people into the Black Legion, go ahead and go through the data vaults of the moon looking to get special data to gain Abadon's favor, naturally. Naturally.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It finds a fancy corrupted scrap code data tome that it decides to bring back as a way to help with the spoiler. So, flash forward a little bit. Abidon is in the observational room, I guess is the word, whatever you want to call it. Sure. He is basically in an oracle area where the entire ceiling is covered in flesh bodies of screeching souls. Not like the screaming gallery, more so like, similar, but like warp energy is flowing through all of them. The revenants called oracles.
Starting point is 00:12:32 and he has this giant orange-rimmed octagon of sorts on the floor. So instead of like a holographic table to see like a battlefield layout, he is basically going to the psychic future seeing room. Oh, okay. The screaming warp room. The screaming warp room that allows him to look into the future, to see outcomes. So as he's flipping through all of these future flame holograms,
Starting point is 00:13:09 he sees Harold World Claimer, the guy we joked about in the episode of Kirioth. Oh, Harold. Oh, Harold. His victory fighting some loyalists. And Abidon's like, I've seen this already. I know he wins next. And he's kind of like, it gives us a little bit of good development. for Abadon because he's like kind of antsy.
Starting point is 00:13:33 He really wants to kill stuff. He wants to, you know, his sword, Dracnia is a demon sword and wants to spill blood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just kind of like can't right now because he's, he needs to play this kind of long game, the long war, but he's just kind of annoyed. And he's seeing like all these kinds of futures.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And he constantly goes in this room. This room is one of those rooms that you just can't go into if you're anyone lesser than Abidon's soul. All of the, screeching revenance on the ceiling will just like freeze you in terror. But he's just... And he's just there like... Chilling with a cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's got an armchair, puts his legs up. Yeah, let's see what's on the news today. The future news. Warp News. With your boy, Issa Kyle. Warp News starring the demons of chaos. Just imagine that that news that Pras, Pras, Pras, Pras.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And on today's warp news, Harold Worldclaimer has killed a million loyalists again. I've seen this one before, rerun next. Change channel. He sees more of his fleets going across the battlefields and killing loyalists. Next, he sees a thousand black metal hands dragging down his forces into a pool of screaming souls and he's like, I know about the necrons already. I'm aware of the danger they pose next.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Click. Click. All the while he's wearing pink fuzzy rabbit slippers and he's got like that. Oh, hell yeah. He's got the robe on and it's like this giant robe that covers this stupidly big armor. He's got a little five o'clock shadow because he hasn't shaved this morning yet. He's got like a little a coffee mug that says, um, uh, fuck you, dad. It works too because the emperor isn't his dad It was Horace and he doesn't like Horace He thinks Horace is a fool
Starting point is 00:15:35 His cup says world's greatest dad But he just X'd out dad So he's just got the world's greatest Yeah World's greatest The spoiler Oh you know how he has like the little top knot Instead it's like a sleeping cap
Starting point is 00:15:49 With like the funny like the Santa looking ones With the pom-pom at the end Yes Yeah yeah Yes Let's go Internet artwork this, please. So he's watching Warp News, right?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Mm-hmm. And then he eventually goes and sees Fulgrim, and Fulgrim is out there just murdering everybody, including his own forces. And he's just furious. Because he's like, God damn it, Fulgrim and the Emperor's children, again with this,
Starting point is 00:16:18 constantly killing my own people, not doing anything to help the long war, just enjoying your sadistic fantasies. Like, Avanon is really struggling. with maintaining coherency with his forces. Because... I bet. It's interesting to note about Abidon
Starting point is 00:16:36 because he serves all four chaos gods equally. Yeah. But the problem... Black Legion, right? Yeah, because Black Legion. But he takes the power from all four gods. The problem is that all four gods wants him to be their champion.
Starting point is 00:16:55 But the moment he allies with one's... specifically he gives that god a ton of power right and so the gods are like meticulously using him but they're they don't like giving him too much power
Starting point is 00:17:12 or they have a bit of fear between like because the great game and their greatest champion so what they'll do instead is they'll mess with his followers his followers oh yeah because he becomes a demon prince
Starting point is 00:17:26 he loses his free will So Slanesh is kind of pushing Fulgram to be like, hey, why don't you go kill like 10,000 of Abidon soldiers or something? That'll get him. No, not quite like that. Fulgroom is doing that because Fulgum is a shithead. And that's just Fulgroom. That's also fair, also very fair. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's more, they're playing this like this game of teeter-totter because at the same time, Abidon is all of their greatest champion. And they're scared of other gods going, him going to other gods. But at the same time, they don't want to give him too much either because then he's so powerful on his own. Right. You know, like, Abidon wants to basically like, yeah, try to kill the emperor, take the throne and then defy chaos. Okay. So if he took the throne from, like, if he actually ever managed to kill the emperor, and take the throne, he would just, he would completely ruin chaos and he would ruin all the
Starting point is 00:18:33 gods and he would be his own super entity. And they don't want that. Yeah, no longer need them. So they don't want to make him too powerful, but they also don't want another one to take him instead. So it's this balancing act. I kind of like the idea that he is both their, like, great. greatest weapon and potentially the biggest threat to chaos.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I kind of like that. I don't want to say duality, but I kind of like that crazy balancing act of like if he gets too much power, chaos is screwed. But at the same time, if he's still the greatest weapon to chaos too. But it is a balancing act of between the gods and to try to take their power and not give anything back. And the problem is that so many of his followers are not that strong. And so they take power from certain gods more than others, and that gives the gods power. And so he's trying to maintain his forces at the same time while they're being corrupted. And it's really difficult.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Avedon is having workplace structuring issues. So his followers, so black legionaries are falling to chaos because they're obviously not as strong as Abidon. on. I mean, I'm assuming nobody is other than, like, what, the emperor? So his forces are probably constantly falling to chaos, aren't they? Because, you know... It's not just that. It's like everyone can join.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You know, look at the word bearers and how devoted they are and how much they give the gods. Or, yeah, like certain black legionaries might get more power. Maybe he'll pull a legionary from a certain group and, you know, like, um, the exalted
Starting point is 00:20:24 night lord guy was a each follower, Zinj demon follower. Yeah. It's difficult. Yeah, he, of course he's not been able to destroy the Imperium yet. He has to, he has to hoard and like herd a ton of various people who are all following the chaos in various ways. Some are trying to usurp him. Some trying to do their own goals.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It's tough. It's also the Imperium. Like million planets. Yeah. It's a lot he has to take. That's not an easy. easy thing to just topple over even if you're Abadon.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So it's frustrating. Sure. But as he's going through warp news, he eventually starts having issues with his overall hologram.
Starting point is 00:21:14 The vengeful spirit starts having major problems as the vengeful spirit was still kind of damaged from the Battalkadia and I think even from the Horacee. Okay. And as as, as, the
Starting point is 00:21:26 weirdness of the warp news starts to flicker and adjust he leaves and meets up with his body garb trying to figure out what's happening with the ship because he's looking around the ship and there's like snaking bits of brass, silver and gold moving throughout the ship
Starting point is 00:21:45 like worms of metal and electricity arcing throughout the walls creating fake like screaming faces of brass and metal slithering through all the pipes and walls and floor of all parts of his ship. Well, that doesn't sound ideal. So he goes up to the source of this area and he finds a bunch of dark Mechanicus people
Starting point is 00:22:12 utilizing the dark, blasphemous tome they found on that planet in an attempt to create a ritual to help speed up and fix the vengeful spirits damage. Oh no. This sounds like it does not end well for someone. Well, it doesn't end well for them because they're taken for excruciation. I was going to say, at the very least, those dark Mechanicum that are using that unholy to mess with the vengeful spirit are probably going to get just unheard of levels of torture. So the actual bits and pieces that start happening are really weird. it's just snaking electrical metal worms
Starting point is 00:22:56 throughout the entire ship just running through it like living cables like frayed intestines all just moving in and out of the area and it all coalesced in one specific spot and in that spot there was a kind of a warp portal slash ritual and sucks in all of the servitors
Starting point is 00:23:18 and all of like the ones that are kind of melded inside of the control consoles, all the electricity is wired and being slowly dragged into the centerpiece area. And in this, blazes two eyes of bright cinder. The eyes fixed him with burning lamps for eyes and spoken of voice of rasping static
Starting point is 00:23:46 from every emitter on the bridge. Abidon, the spoiler, I am Vashthor the Archofane and I come to make you an offer. Oh, is that Vashtor? Vash Tor the Archipane. I think one of the best additions to chaos in a while. Whoa. That is so, that first art, that, I don't know about that second one, but that first one,
Starting point is 00:24:19 Oh my God That's so Wow His mini is also really dope Oh Hell yeah Oh this is the one everybody thought was the Dark Mechanicus Um
Starting point is 00:24:33 Minnie right Yes it is not actually Oh he is so cool That is a baller mini Oh my god Vastor is really Really cool I like him a lot
Starting point is 00:24:49 lot. That's one of those minis that's so cool that I'm like, yo, I might not play, but I would I would love to own it. I would probably screw up the paint job, but damn, that's cool. I've also found that Vastor is actually really big. As a mini, he's way bigger than you think he is. Like, if you, uh, if that, oh, was that an epic embed fail? laugh at this user do it shy oh no anyway he's very tall he's very big giant mini
Starting point is 00:25:24 um is he bigger than say on a scale of one to bellicor just click on the damn link it's just 404 not found when I click on it god damn it so you know you've really
Starting point is 00:25:39 you've really goofed this this show off here there you go he's like triple the height of space Marines. He's very tall. Oh, wow. He is a lot bigger than I thought he was. Well, I guess in terms of the mini, like Shai said, you can see in the picture, he is towering over Space Marines, so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's such a, oh, that's such a great mini. Jesus. It's really good. The minnie's great. He's dope. So, he arrives on the bridge of the vengeful spirit. And he starts speaking to Abadon in this furnace-like voice of static and metal. And what he is, is in a weird way, he's not a demon prince. And he's not a demonically infested person either. He is a separate warp entity in his entirety. So this is actually a great development for chaos.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I like this a lot. So in the realm of chaos, we have the four major realms. Corns place of blood and brass. You have the plague gardens of Nurgle, crystalline labyrinth of Zinche, and the six layers of seduction or pleasure or whatever for Sleesh. There is another area in the realm of chaos called the Soul Forges. Ooh, cool.
Starting point is 00:27:09 The Soul Forges are a blasphemous mechanical zone that has a black sky of twisting fumes and oil and sludge. And this place sounds so cool. In it are the screams and whales mixed with the, or mixed up and lined up with the sounds of pistons and metal. And it is a place of oil, electricity, bronze, brass, iron, and souls and blood, all mixed together. The soul forges.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It sounds like a demonic chaos admec zone. It is basically what it is. And Vashtor, Vash Tor is actually an entity that gains power from mortals just like the chaos gods. He is a technological manifestation. He is the embodiment of the scientist, the engineer. the scientist that decides to find a cure for the plague of his citizens and the excitement of discovering this, the excitement of creation,
Starting point is 00:28:22 then twisting him to no longer try to find the plague cure, but instead, after he's done, make bio-weapons, knowing how good he is at his stuff. The engineer seeking knowledge and the perfection of the craft. It's the inquisital, the questioning, the curiosity of science and engineering is what gives Vashdor his power. Oh, so he probably got a big boost when Oppenheimer was around. That probably gave him a big old, you know. One could say he was having a blast.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, you could definitely say that. Yeah, definitely. I like that idea so much. That's very cool. So the ad mech must, well... Oh, the admec feed him, no doubt. Yeah, but it's not like the ad mech can like... I was going to say, because the ad mech are constantly like engineering and stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:25 but it's not like they're... They don't invent stuff, and it's not like they're real... I guess they... Well, I don't know. I'm probably thinking about it too hard. They do. Great. All right. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So in the soul forges, it is an unaligned section of the realm of chaos that serves all chaos gods equally as a third party. Vash Stor is like a combination of mob boss and arms dealer. So the thing is with Vash Stor is, when demons arrive in real space, they speak in in twisted riddles, unless you're corn and they just try to kill you. But it's like the Zingh people is like, they're like, why are you here? And they say, the light of the universe brought me here. Or was it the minds of mort? Yeah, I imagine Slanesh is that way too. Vashore does not do this.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Vashdor speaks plain and candidly. He is brutally honest. So good for him. What happens in the realm of chaos is he is a. an arms dealer for chaos. He is the crafter of demonic war engines and the creator of destructive forces of demon engines and power. He is a blade master and a weapon artisim.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Those weapons that have demons infused inside of them, Vash Store helps make. Oh, nice. He helps create these. The swords and plague weapons made from Nergel or the or the, the giant brass vehicles of corn, he helps build these.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Nice. I love it. I love that he's like the weapons dealer, the arms dealer, the chaos weapon smith. I love this. I think this is gravash dors. I love it. So any demon may approach the soul forges.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And when you approach the soul forge, you may sign a contract of blood and oil with Vash Stor. The thing is that these contracts are not weird contracts. They are written out plainly and cleanly what they are. They are not tricks.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It is very simple. Demons are the tricksy ones. Demons are the ones who expect so much more of themselves. You know, like they, maybe it's a younger, smaller demon of Zinche or of Sleynch who wants to become more favored by their god or wants to rise in the ranks, right? And they need to find a way to do it. So they go to Vash store and often their contract is simple. They will be smashed, crushed, adjusted, molded into a creature of brass and flesh.
Starting point is 00:32:26 and by giving them that power, they owe a certain amount of mortal souls to Vashdor. Oh, okay. So I'm liking this. I will make you into a soul grinder, which is shy if you have an image of that, be perfect. A soul grinder.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And then by then you must reap me a thousand mortal souls in return. But maybe by a certain time frame, or something. And if you don't, then you owe me. What would you give back to Vashdor, just like your soul, or you become like a soulless worker for VashTor? Or how does that work? Inslave to his work, yeah. Okay. So a lot of smaller... A lot of smaller demons that don't have a whole lot to offer will often offer their services
Starting point is 00:33:23 and sign a pact of servitude to Vash Store for an unspecified amount of time for power. Yeah, okay. But once their time is up, so long as the contra doesn't stay anything otherwise, that's that. Like, you're done. And they just get to keep the power.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Congratulations, you got me the souls I needed. I'm strong, you're strong. Party on, Wayne. Party on, Garth. They are an absolute, an absolute completely, what's the word I'm looking for? brutally honest contract.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I like that. He does not speak in riddles or tongues. He is just flat out. You work for me. Give me this many souls. I will turn you into a beast of destruction. Which, this is the soul grinder, by the way. I like that.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I am digging Vash Tor and the soul forge. And, oh, this is just, whoa! The mini is a little. little bad, if I'm being honest, but that's the concept, you know, a mixture of both. I don't know, that many's pretty cool, to be honest, like this weird amalgamation of flesh and metal and brass, and it's like this sort of techno spider thing and that really cool, like, broken sword made out of techno, I love it. I, oh boy, there's not a whole lot that I'm disliking about Vash Tor and this
Starting point is 00:34:52 Soul Forge stuff. I am I am smacks. Dig-up! You're on board, yeah. I am fully on board with this. I might have found a new chaos thing to worship. Well, that's a good thing too, because Vashdor is unhappy with where he
Starting point is 00:35:12 stands as this middling armed dealer. Because the thing is, the chaos gods let him be, because they like his work. But also, they don't want to push their influence on him too much. Because if they do, he might alienate himself from them. And then next thing you know, Corn, Nurgel, and Slenesh all have Vastor's allegiance and their work. And Zinche is out in the dust, no pun intended.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Nice. That was good. That was good. I like that. I like that. Thank you. Thank you. But that is a worry is that if they, constantly are trying to get his favor. Like he works for all of them in a tenuous alliance, but like a mob boss. You know, you don't want him only working for your competitors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And all of them don't want to like, because if you lose him, you lose all your arms. So if chaos is like, oh yeah, let's all rise up against Vashdor, it's like, why would we do that? He supplies us with our weapons. Like, if we get rid of him,
Starting point is 00:36:18 we got nothing. We got to find a new source of weapons. So he's, you know, he's an important figure. Oh, yeah, very important for chaos. Abidon has been having this dream, this weird, like, prophetic dream, where he wakes up and he sees the stars in the sky being consumed, being just slowly breaking apart and darknesses surrounding all of the stars. they falter, they stutter, and they burn away,
Starting point is 00:36:52 and they start to crumble into ash falling on his face like snow. And as he turns his face away, he drag smears of darkness that scald onto his skin from his fingers. And so he knows it's the end of everything, and yet he has this revelation that he can stop it, and he starts to dig. And as he digs and digs, he encowers patterns, furnaces, and screaming mouths of chains and hammers, and a figure with eyes of burning cinder. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And then he digs more. And he finds a beast, crimson giant, which would be Angron, I believe. Okay. The second book is called Angron in the Arcs of Omen. So, then as he continues to dig, he sees an ancient knight kneel upon a field of victory and weep tears of cinder. And he continues to dig and dig before he wakes up screaming with hands bloodied and then he dreams again. So he's got this kind of prophecy. and the idea of the prophecy is kind of chasing down
Starting point is 00:38:15 McGuffins to craft an artifact, an artifact of unimaginable power that he will use as like a key and the key opens up the stars and unleashes the flames of like retribution for his war. Ooh, I like it's. It's a key of brass and bone and clockwork. And Vashdor basically goes to him and says, I see the prophecy, and I don't like where I'm at right now.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I do not like my position. I wish to become the fifth chaos god. And one day overpower the others and see myself ruling the realm of chaos. Oh. So just because of that, he's speaking to Abidani and says, in my vision, I help you. and we find the things together. And you get your great, uh, powerful weapon, and we wield it together. And I become all powerful.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I become powerful by helping you, simply put. And, uh, consider this a token of my appreciation. And all those worm like electricity and metal, uh, like oily snake things are actually fixing his ship. Okay. Okay. So the Dark Mechanicus did him a solid by using that tome and kind of summoning Vashdor
Starting point is 00:39:44 because now his ship is getting fixed and he seemingly can make a contract where he gets the power he wants and Vashdor could potentially overthrow the other chaos gods here? Is that what I'm from his vision? If he helps Abadon, he's going to rule chaos? Vemus vision is how he gains a lot of power. And I mean the Dark Mechanicus didn't really do him a solvable.
Starting point is 00:40:08 They didn't know what they were doing. That's what Amazon is angry about us. They just didn't know how they were doing. Because they had no idea what they were actually summoning. They were just doing some fucky-wuckies. They got lucky. And getting lucky does not mean you don't get to be excrucified. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Fair enough. So, yeah, that's basically the goal is I will help you in your long war. And together we will destroy the loyalists and find these artifacts to create this great key for this great weapon. And in doing so, we will be able to. able to, I will become all powerful, extremely powerful, and you will be able to not have to serve the other chaos gods and get your win. That Vash Stor speaks completely honestly. No riddles, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Even Abidon was like, why would I trust the, the god of cogitators? And Vastor just kind of laughs. And it's like, he kind of giggles at it. And at first, Abidon also said, What chaos God do you serve? And he just spits in their name. It's like, I serve none of those weak-willed fools in the great game. So Vastor is a blasphemous mathematics.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh, I love Vash Tor. Also, this has got to be like, I mean, Abadon would be crazy not to jump at this offer, right? I mean, sure. You're going to be a little uneasy and a little untrusting because, you know, chaos. But this could give him everything he wants if he allies with Vashdor a little bit here, right? Like, it's a win-win. It is if Vash-Store is telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But he speaks plainly, right? He's not like a manipulator. He's not like a big-time chaos liar of deceit or anything, right? As far as we know. Oh, okay. Now, I think it goes against Vash Stor's overall, like, idea to be manipulative.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And as far as I'm concerned, because I can't tell if this book is in the eyes of Avedon specifically, and so whether or not he considers to trust Vash Stor or Vash Stor is genuinely just not a liar. Yeah. But regardless of it, he speaks plainly
Starting point is 00:42:36 and so far it seems that he's telling the truth. So the next step is the arcs of Omen. The arcs of Omen are they're basically playing a giant scavenger hunt is the idea, getting different mcuffins in order
Starting point is 00:42:55 to help figure out this artifact and the key for it. So what Vashdor does is he grabs a whole shitload of, like about a dozen I think it's a dozen actually, spacehulks from the warp and throws them into real space. A dozen? A dozen space hulks.
Starting point is 00:43:14 All right. That's a lot. The Black Legion and their followings clear the space hoax of demon presence, tyrannids, necrons, whatever's inside of it, and turn them basically into gigantic battle-force ships that they use instead. Yeah, the right is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, picture, that giant one. Oh, wow, that's a big shit. Oh, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Jeez, that's the size, that's bigger than all of those chaos ships put together. Do you, do you remember what a, what a, um, uh, a space Hulk is? Yeah, it's, um, isn't it just like, uh, Imperium ships that got all in the warp and they've got like all manner of demons and stuff in them. Pretty much. And so they're basically the size of like small moons sometimes. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Notice there's another one right there. Yeah. Coming out of the warp and causing problems. So what they're doing is they're basically taking each and every one of these and turning them into capital. ship. In order to do so, they need to do six things to the ship. There are six editions Vashdoor ads. The first one was called the unhollowed, the Space Hulk that is. The arcs. The first thing they do is wardings, tons of wardings and ritual ruins to keep away demonic
Starting point is 00:44:50 infestation from the ship. Then you have the flesh metal ganglia, wow, gangliacos. Ex-o? Oh my God, that's a hard word. It's gang and the L-I-A-X-O-S. Ganglyaxos? Ganglyaxos? Yeah, yeah, sure. Makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, sure. It's a word. Tons of warp energy and silver cyber nematodes that burrow within the ship to create, like, the electrical circuits for them. Cool. You then have a warp portal, which is genuinely just a portal
Starting point is 00:45:26 that allows you to translate between various areas from the ship and other ships. So you can go down to the surface, murder everyone, then go into a portal to teleport back onto the ship. Oh, that's convenient. You also have the Obeliskane, which is basically a blasphemous version of the Astronomicon, fed heretical psychers to give each Space Hulk a presence in the warp
Starting point is 00:45:54 so it can be grouped up on and travel. in packs. Hey, also very convenient. A very convenient. A few other systems. And finally, a demonic bridge crew known as the ferryman, a special demon pilot that melds with the ship to allow it to move. Oh, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:46:19 So the crew is just merged with the ship. You don't have to worry about, you know, oh, we need sleep, we need food. No, they're just merged in there and they're all. and they're always flying it. Basically, they're always flying it. Oh, that's so cool. I like that. And the whole bridge crew is just these awful demonic people.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And so these dozen space hulks are now on their way going for the scavenger hunt. And they all have these really, they have these really fun names. Like, oh, it's, I say more than a dozen arcs have done this initial thing. But they're moving around like the shrine world of, sorry, the ice moons of,
Starting point is 00:46:58 Corbeck are one of the assaults or industrial sprawls. There is the Shrine World of Lume 4 that has the Iron Warriors with the Ark Ogre. There is on Hasp, they have Alpha Legion going through. They have one called the Blood Ma, which is attacking good old Grya, the forge world. You have the bane of life, which is attacking the Kronus hegemony Voton and the orcs. That name is like, wow, I shop at Hot Topic, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Look at how edgy I am. I'm the bane of life. Nobody cared who I was till I put on the mat. You know, that's pretty good, pretty good, pretty good. There is also a bail fleet going against Ulthway Eldar and Dark Eldar Cabals. Apparently there is a name for our Knight Lord Chaos Lords called Flandsmasters. I thought you were going to say Flay Masters. That was like apropos name.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I mean, it's the same. Flenz, you're flensing, you know, the same. I've never heard the word flensing for like flaying someone. Is that like the past tense of being flayed as you've been flens? Flemns, verb. Slice the skin or fat from a carcass. Huh. You flends and butchered the whale, or the skin has been flensed off.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Okay, appropriate name for the night lords. GGs. Didn't. Hey, I learned a new word today. Hell yeah. So they're going around killing all sorts of loyalist people, dealing and killing off or going to Necron Tomb Worlds and Eldar Shrine worlds, grabbing all of their various things. At this point, the loyalists are starting to kind of catch up.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Of course, naturally the Eldar are the first people who find this out because Eldar. And they start contacting even Imperial Inquisitors and saying, Hey, we got problems. It must be a big problem for the Eldor to be like, hey, humans, I don't know if you knew this, but arcs. Arks of Omen are coming to destroy all of us. Everything, yeah. And so a lot of these arcs, of course, are, well, basically just being sent to demolish worlds because they're enormous.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah, they're the size of a world. And so sisters of battle are rising up against it. Dante of the Blood Angels is coming to fight. The Oldway Eldar are working against it. The necrons have started to mobilize to try to deal with the arcs. Abnon and Vashdor have attracted the attention. and are currently fighting most major players of the galaxy, which is a very impressive feat for them as the champions of chaos.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I was going to say it sounds like they are literally starting a fight with every faction except the tyranids. Because how do you start a fight with the tyranids? Oh, no, they started a fight with the tyranids also. They have attacked a couple high fleets. Oh, okay. They attacked a high fleet? I think there's a world.
Starting point is 00:50:20 A world surrounded by High Fleet Kronos, I think, and I think it's on the world. Their McGuffin is on these worlds. Wow. Okay. So they are just fighting everyone. And how are they doing? Because it sounds like with these arcs,
Starting point is 00:50:39 they're going to be a threat to everybody. Because I'm assuming these arcs do not go down easily. No, they don't. And they are a threat to everybody currently. They are there. Yeah, shy was like, people widen the chaos since they're doing nothing. They're going to fight everyone. Yeah, they are fighting everybody.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You know, after hearing all of this, like, I thought Vashdor's mini was cool. And now I'm like, yo, Vastor needs a bigger mini. Like, he needs to be like this. Just, he needs to be bigger than, um, Why am I drawing a blank on the prime mark for Nurgel with the gas mask in the site? Mortarian. Mortarian. He needs to be like bigger than Mortarian with like these, with his giant mechanical wings outspread.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Because this is crazy shit. Like, he's, they're fighting a war with the world, with the universe. I mean, yeah, I mean, space hoax are enormous. Don't forget like Gasco had three of them. or something when he had that giant wall against Yarek. Like, it is a genuinely horrendous threat. And now you have a coordinated attack by the Black Legion. And, yeah, I mean, Vashdor is a big dude.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And he also, like, he can, like, ride around, fly in the sky on psychic lightning and stuff and his hammers. And he, like, screws around with machines, obviously, so he could screw with your stuff. Oh, man, I, oh, boy, it's really hard. for me to not just completely simp out for Vashdor right now because all of this just sounds so much cooler than any other chaos stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's just so rock star just taking on the entire universe with these giant arcs and the Black Legion and Abadon. I am so all in right now. Oh dude, get in line, man. When I was reading this, I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:44 wait a second. Vashtore is an absolute baller. This is the best character they've added for chaos in a while Oh yeah This is the best I love it Sign me up And yeah and one of the arcs also is
Starting point is 00:53:01 Is led by by Angron Oh let's go Our boy Yeah it's and the next book is Angron too And then the book after that is Vash Store And the fourth book we don't know yet There's four books total But the fourth book we don't know
Starting point is 00:53:17 yet, but I'm not going to lie. The rumor consensus is that it might be far sight. Oh. Okay. Maybe our sudden heroes might be the quiet ones.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So Abidon is the only book that's come out at the moment, but there's going to be four of them. Correct. And then I think then it gets like 10th edition Warhammer when the game changes, and then I think that's when new stuff happens. Man, I want to, I want to know all the stuff that happens and I'm invested in this this is this is so great I love it so
Starting point is 00:53:54 so Vashdor and Abadon talk a little bit and it's kind of interesting to see their back and forth because Vash Stor is also equally angry with with some of his own issues he has like his voice is like unexpected machinations see the foe a massive force about Malik Bail to great for any Bail fleet to overcome. Their entire fourth crusade fleet gathers about the site like filings to a magnet. Acquisition cannot be achieved. And Abadon couldn't help himself as
Starting point is 00:54:25 he laughed, hard and cruel, as he had a bit of delight that even the demon demigod is not as like omnipotent and can't handle all of his forces himself. Because it's kind of like, because he has the exact same issue. Like, Abandon is struggling hard with
Starting point is 00:54:41 keeping his own people together, but even Vashor is not strong enough to just handle everything easily like a chaos god can because he's not big enough. Yeah. So they're kind of mood, kind of mood, kind of. Yeah. They're one and the same. Yeah. I liked his statement after that. He specifically says,
Starting point is 00:54:58 account for your mirth. It's a lot of fun. So, so technically, Abadon is with Vashdor. And he, do you think they're actually going to fight chaos? some point, like, that they're actually going to, like, try to overturn the other chaos gods? Because that's what Vashdor wants in the end. So, I don't think that will ever happen simply because chaos never ends up fully winning
Starting point is 00:55:31 normally. And also, the idea of making a fifth chaos god is not an unheard of thing. I think they did that with Sigma, with the Great Rat, the Great Horned Rat, I think is what it's called. Oh, I have no idea. The possibility of him ascending to a fifth chaos god is a thing. However, I think from like a meta perspective and overall world building perspective, him being a little bit under makes for better character development.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Him struggling more makes for better character development. Right, right, right. So I don't think... I don't want to say the underdog, but it's, yeah, I get what you mean. Well, I think so. It's like, Abidon is... working hard to defeat the Imperium. But Vastor is the underdog of chaos in general, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:21 True, because he's not really at the godhood status, but he's, yeah, okay. I'm curious to see how it's going to go or how it will affect it all. I don't think he'll be like the biggest, newest chaos god or anything, but I'm really curious to see where he'll be taken. I honestly wouldn't mind if he did eventually become the fifth chaos god. I would not mind that one little iota. I feel weird in the sense just because like we've had the big four for so long that a lot of the game is kind of centered around the idea of four. True.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Making it five feels a bit odd. So just has him constantly struggling and he never quite ascends to godhood. But he's always kind of, you know, that little thorn. in your side that's just enough of a threat. I'd like him to still ascend to a godhood, just a smaller god. Just a smaller god. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Also, wouldn't it be better if they like, instead of fighting the whole universe, they took all their arcs and just individually attacked each faction? Because like those arcs seem so powerful that if you were just like, oh yeah, let's just take all of our arcs and we're just going to go bomb Tara. Like, who's going to stop you? So they're not necessarily doing... Okay, so actually, that's a great thing. You just said right there.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Hooray! So the point to states is that Abidon specifically talks about that. He talks about the fact that he has enough forces to probably assail Tara. The problem is that he does not want to follow in the footsteps of his fool of a father, Horace, where he attacks Tara with living. living loyalists at his back. Oh, okay. He wants to rend all of the Imperium to lower the amount of forces by such a degree that when he fights Terra,
Starting point is 00:58:22 the only enemy he has is facing him in the front. Oh, okay. Because that was ultimately Horace's undoing was in the Dark Angels and the Ultramarines. Yeah, they were coming from behind and he was losing time. So if Horace had been smart enough to whittle. down the loyalist he might have won and Abadon doesn't want us to make the same mistake. Oh, that's great character building. Man, this just keeps getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And so, he is not actually just picking a fight with everyone. He is attacking very specific spots that have artifacts that they are looking for, for this key for this weapon, this McGuffin weapon. Hmm. Oh, I love it. It just happens to be that these spots have one of those are two worlds, one was necrows, or one was Tyrannids, one was Voton, one was even, lots were Imperium. Gotcha, gotcha. So it's more than just these are the places we have to look for.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Right, right. They're just looking for artifacts. They're not necessarily trying to whittle down forces. They're just like, yo, we need these artifacts and you idiots happen to be where we need to be. Exactly. Gotcha. I love it. Oh, this is great.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I love it too. This has been fantastic. Good for, good for GW. Yes, this is actually really good chaos lore. Vastor is a baller. Hell yeah. I cannot wait to see what his rules are on the tabletop because I'm going to buy him and paint him up no matter what.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I don't care it off. Hell yeah. 100% getting him. So, that's one of those ones where it's like, I might buy one. and even though I'm not painting stuff, I might just send it off to like one of those commission painters and be like, hey, make this as badass as you can
Starting point is 01:00:18 because I just want to display this on my shelf. Hell yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. Mm-hmm. Oh, I love it. Get one of him and get like the new Abadon. That's about it for me. Oh, man, this was a great episode. I love it.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I am so, like, I thought I was going to be hype about the Phoenix Lords, but this was, oh, I, I am thrilled at being so wrong about what today was going to be about. Because I am a, consider me a Vash Tor simp post-haste. Hell yes. Join the club. Hell yeah. I imagine a lot of people are going to be that way. Oh, yeah. I think a lot of people are really hot on Vash-Tor right now. I also think that it's really nice to be listening to like ongoing lore in 40K Like a developing story is just kind of nice because now we're finally in the situation of ooh what's next what's next Yeah we know what we know what isa kyle has been up to we know what he's doing and oh man he is a big threat
Starting point is 01:01:26 Would you say he is now he's he's got to be more of a threat than horace right now because like you said horace screwed up and failed at Terra because there were still so many loyalists at his back. Like, he's a way bigger threat than Horace now, right? So, the, well, I would say so, but it's also because the galaxy is currently ripped in half by warp storms and things because he destroyed him. Oh, yeah, the cicatrix maledictum, and yeah. Yeah, no, I would say he's definitely a bigger threat than Horace, but also the Imperium
Starting point is 01:01:59 has spread and breeded, like, flies in the past 10,000 years. That's true. The Imperium is probably a lot bigger now than it was when Horace was doing his shenanigans. 100%. So it's a little bit of a back and forth kind of a give and take. Also, like Shai said, he has the benefit of learning from the mistakes of Horace and the mistakes of chaos. Sure. Someone made a very interesting point that with Vastor, it might actually be one of the ways they try to bring back Perciarabo because the Iron Warriors are so. so into this. Oh yeah, this would be the Iron Warriors wet dream, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Well, so kind of, because the Iron Warriors do not like chaos. They despise chaos as an entity. Oh, sure. But, if they were going to, like, any form of chaos, anything, this would kind of be the guy. Oh, yeah, this is absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:56 And he speaks plainly, and he's all about, like, it's all about twisted, brass. and oil and sort of mechanical inventions and stuff. This, yes, yes, yes, this could totally be a perjurabo thing. So the pistons and souls, blood and oil, such a cool concept. So cool. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:03:20 This also seems like a great dark Mechanicum faction too with the blood, the oil, the machinery, the technology. Oh, it's just endless. Oh, God, I love this. I mean, that would be, I was always kind of wondering, because I thought that in 10th edition, we would most likely get a brand new codex for the Emperor's children. Just kind of makes sense. We got world eaters this time around, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I think Death Guard was also recently.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I think it was the last, the latest one. And so I was thinking to myself, like, oh, it'd be really good to hit up Empress Children. But I wouldn't mind, like, some kind of chaos side army, like the soul forges of Vastor, or something. something like that. Oh, God, yes, please. Or some kind of descendants of the forge kind of shit.
Starting point is 01:04:10 That would be super fun. I am here for it. Or that would be like... That could be the Dark Mechanicus, you know, is like the Soul Forges is like the version of the Dark Mechanicus. I don't know. That's an idea. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I am here for all Vash Tor related content. Hell yeah. Just put an eye. in my arm and direct it into my bloodstream. Hell yeah, brother. All right, that's it for me. To all of our lovely viewers, I might need to get my tonsils removed.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So you might not hear my scratchy voice for a while. And it might delay an episode or two. Well, the ones that I might be him. Yeah. And the ones that I looked up for. If we need to, we might get like Karioth or someone to come do a guest episode or something. Yeah. So we'll see about that.
Starting point is 01:05:06 But besides that, Vash store Gang Gang. Gang!

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